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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 29 August 2022 (UTC) [1].

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List of songs written by Ricky Vela

Nominator(s): – jona ✉ 19:16, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

I created this list as part of the 2022 Latin music edit a thon competition. This is a list of songs written by Ricky Vela, who was a keyboardist for Selena y Los Dinos, spanning the years 1986 through 2003. – jona ✉ 19:16, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments on the lead

• "a collaborative effort with the producer of the group A.B" - earlier he was referred to as A.B. Quintanilla. Is he primarily known simply as "A.B."?

• Yes

• "became her first critically acclaim single" => "became her first critically acclaimed single"

• Done

• "Vela was closer to the guitarist of the group, Roger Garcia and A.B." - multiple issues here. Firstly, if "the guitarist of the group" refers just to Garcia then you need a comma after his name. Secondly "Vela was closer to the guitarist of the group" - than to whom?

• Done

• "In 1989, Selena signed with EMI Latin, stepping away from the Texas indie labels they recorded under" - if the subject is Selena, why is the pronoun "they" used in the second clause?

• Done

• "Vela wrote "Tengo Ganas de Llorar" for Selena's eponymous debut." - you previously said she released an album in 1986, so how can she only now be releasing her debut album?

• Done

• "Vela wrote "No Debes Jugar" for Selena Live!," - as the previous sentence talked about a track on the same album, I would suggest saying "Vela also wrote". Also you need a semi-colon rather than a comma after Selena Live!

• Done

• "hid the lyrics that he wrote from it" - what's "it"?

• His feelings

• Then write "and hid the lyrics that he wrote based on these feelings". What is there currently doesn't make grammatical sense -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:11, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

• "According to Abraham" - per MOS:SURNAME, subjects should not be referred to by their forename only

• Not done. Selena, A.B., Suzette, and Abraham all share the same surname.

• Then write his full name. Forename should never be used by itself -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:11, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

• "Vela continued an active presence" = "Vela remained an active presence"

• Done

• "with his final songwriting credit "Contigo"" - assuming he is not dead, how do we know it was his final credit? He might write more....

• Well he has not received any writing credits in the last two decades, so "Contigo" is his last known songwriting credit.

• That's what I got on a first pass. I haven't looked at the table yet..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:43, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review! – jona ✉ 18:48, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

• I fixed everything you brought to my attention. – jona ✉ 15:31, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

More comments

• My only comments on the table are that people's names in the writer(s) column should be written in full and linked each time, and that names in the artists column should sort based on surname not forename (eg Pete Astudillo should sort under A not P)
• The note is not a complete sentence so it should not have a full stop -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:35, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

•  Done – jona ✉ 17:35, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

• Apologies if I was unclear above - when I said "names in the artists column should sort based on surname not forename" I did not mean that you needed to show the surnames of artists even if they did not use their surnames publicly (i.e. Selena, Thalia). You should still just show the names under which the artists released their music (eg just show Selena for Selena). But if that name consists of a forename and a surname, the sorting should be based on the surname (eg Pete Astudillo should sort under A not P). Also, you don't need to write "Astudillo, Pete", you can use a sorting template e.g. put {{sortname|Pete|Astudillo}} This will still make it appears as Pete Astudillo but will make it sort under A -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:49, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• My bad, I believe I have fixed those issues now. Thanks – jona ✉ 22:04, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• I fixed one for you (Leones Del Norte is a group, not a person with the surname "Del Norte" so is fine to sort under L) and am now happy to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:22, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks for your support and review. – jona ✉ 13:19, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

• Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
• Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 01:48, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

• I've added the note. Thanks – jona ✉ 20:47, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Comment Support from TRM

• First line is a bit of a slog. Maybe you could just introduce him as a songwriter from X who has written songs since Y, and then in a subsequent sentence discuss the groups in detail.

•  Done

• A. B. Quintanilla has a spaced between the . and the B.

•  Done

• "resurgence in popularity in the 21st century" why?

•  Done

• "in Who Was...Selena? (2018), " I don't think that's the link you're looking for.

•  Done

• "Chris Perez," missing a diacritic.

•  Done

• "Vela written "Quiero..." do you mean "wrote"?

•  Done

• "certified platinum" include "certified" in the link.

•  Done

• "Ricky Vela often collobrated with A.B. Quintanilla (pictured), " spacing again, and I normally see (pictured) in italics.

•  Done

• In a sortable table, all linked items should be linked every time, check the Album and Artist columns.

•  Done

• Our article on Dulce Amor calls it Dulce amor.

•  Done

• Cruz Martinez is missing a diacritic.

•  Done

That's enough for now. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:38, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks for your review, I believe I addressed everything. Best – jona ✉ 18:11, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Z1720

• The lede's two paragraphs are quite long. Is there a way that this information can be divided into smaller paragraphs? I also think some of the information can be trimmed.
• Leones Del Norte should be wikilinked (even if it is a redlink) or removed if not notable.

•  Done

• "a collaborative effort with the producer of the group A. B. Quintanilla," In the previous sentence, A. B. Quintanilla was introduced as a person. Why is he now part of a group?

•  Done

• "and became her first critically acclaimed single." Who is the her referred to in this sentence?

•  Done

• ""Dame tu Amor" was the first recording Vela cowrote with the manager of the group," which group?

•  Done

• "Following the release of Netflix's limited two-part drama Selena: The Series (2020—21)," -> "Following the release of Selena: The Series," If the reader wants to know more about the series, they can click on the wikilink.

•  Done

• "According to authors Max and Kate Bisantz in Who Was...Selena? (2018), during the 1980s, Vela was closer to the guitarist of the group, Roger Garcia, and A. B. Quintanilla, than to the women of the group." I don't think this sentence is necessary and can be deleted.

•  Done

• "In 1989, Selena signed with EMI Latin, stepping away from the Texas indie labels she recorded under." This is too much information about Selena, considering that this is a list of Ricky Vela's songs. I suggest deleting this

•  Done

• " Chris Pérez, who replaced Garcia in late 1990 as the guitarist of the group, praised Vela's songwriting on Entre a Mi Mundo as being creative with the utilization of "heavy arrangements".[8] Music critic Rene Cabrera credited Vela as a songwriter on Entre a Mi Mundo, an album Cabrera called a "barn-burner"." I don't think commentary on his songwriting ability should be in this article. Instead, this would be better placed in Ricky Vela.

•  Done

• "Vela wrote "Quiero Estar Contigo" (1992) for Tejano music band Leones del Norte, his first songwriting credit outside of Selena." This is missing a citation.

• I remove it and just added the year.

• "Vela had romantic inclinations toward the drummer of the group, Suzette Quintanilla, which he kept private from her. After hearing of her wedding to Bill Arriaga in September 1993, Vela wrote of his feelings of betrayal and unrequited love and hid the lyrics that he wrote based on these feelings. Vela eventually provided Selena with the lyrics and she recorded the song for Amor Prohibido.[12] According to Abraham Quintanilla, Selena provided an emotional delivery while recording the track and was seen sobbing in the recording studio because "she knew how [Vela] felt" about Suzette.[13] This was dramatized in the second-part Selena: The Series, released in 2021.[14]" I think all of this should be moved to "No Me Queda Más" and deleted from this article, as this is off-topic for what this list is. The longer the lede is, the less likely people are to read the article.

•  Done

• "which was written for A. B. Quintanilla's Kumbia Kings group in 2003." Kumbia Kings was already introduced as A. B. Quintanilla's group in the first paragraph, so this can be "which was written for Kumbia Kings in 2003."

•  Done

Those are my comments on the lede. Please ping me if there are any questions or when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 01:38, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

• @Z1720: Thanks for your review. I believe I have addressed your concerns. Best – jona ✉ 23:36, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

• The following citations listed in the "Works Cited" are not currently used in the article. I suggest using them as references or removing them:

• Bisantz, Kate; Bisantz, Max (2018)
• Cabrera, Rene (September 4, 1992).

• Fletcher, Michael; Getz, Robert P.; Fletcher, Nathan; Morales, Joe (March 1999).
• Ramirez, Erika (October 8, 2011)
• Vaval, Natalie (May 20, 2021).

• Please ping me when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 02:04, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

• @Z1720: I have removed them. Best – jona ✉ 23:43, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

• Support. My concerns have been resolved. Z1720 (talk) 23:45, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

• @Z1720: Thank you for your support! Best – jona ✉ 00:12, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

• @The Rambling Man:, @PresN: I really don't want this to be archived due to lack of sufficient support, were there any more issues that need to be fixed? Best – jona ✉ 14:11, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Can you just check the accuracy and consistency of links to Dulce Amor? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:27, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: I have fixed them. Thanks – jona ✉ 21:42, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Cool, happy to support now. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:32, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your support! – jona ✉ 14:10, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

• Source review – The reliability and formatting of the sources look okay throughout the page, and no issues were identified by the link-checker tool. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:28, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks for your source review! – jona ✉ 14:10, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Closing, promoted. --PresN 13:44, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

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List of snooker Triple Crown finals

Nominator(s): Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:26, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because this is a list of all of the Triple Crown (snooker) event finals. Recently created, would love to get it up to FL. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:26, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• Lead seems incredibly short at just 1024KB (way too short for a DYK). Is there really no more to say?
  • Hmm, I suppose the only things we could really add would be broadcasters and such, but that's more about the events than a list of winners. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:08, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• Why is the Season column formatted differently for the Masters than the other two?
  • Fixed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:08, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• Ref 2 does not support the claim that the WSC is considered part of the Triple Crown but only since 1969, in fact as far as I can see it doesn't support anything in that sentence
  • I've reworded to only have the facts. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:57, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• Winner and runner-up columns should sort on surname, not forename
  • Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:49, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• Date formatting in the refs is not consistent (also ref 1 has no dates at all)
  • Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:08, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• Think that's all I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:37, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Was there anything else ChrisTheDude. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:29, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:37, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments from BennyOnTheLoose

• I'm not sure it's even covered in the main Triple Crown article, but I think there should be a mention that the idea of a snooker "triple crown" was applied retrosepctively. I have a feeling the phrase wasn't even mentioned in snooker until something like the late 1990s.
  • I only found one suitable ref that kind of talks around it. Hopefully that's suitable. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:01, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
    • I'm not seeing the support for this in The Guardian source. (Capitalise The, if retained). If it's not in sources then better to omit it here. I'll see if I can dig anything up, but I don't recall any sources on this TBH. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:03, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
      • I haven't found anything earlier than the 1999 quote mentioned at Talk:Triple_Crown_(snooker)/GA1. Clive Everton used the term in an Independent article a few weeks later. In an Irish Independent article published on 5 May 2003, Phil Yates refers to "the game's unofficial triple crown". I think it really only became a thing when the Triple Crown Series icon came out in 2020, but it is a thing, so best to avoid the retro discussion (that I started; sorry!) in this list article. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:17, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
        • Removed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:42, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
• Refs 1, 2 - as per ChrisTheDude's comments.
  • I've done a reword Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:01, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• Ref 3 - CueSport book page 10 does not mention Masters being a triple crown event, and doesn't mention the UK Championship at all.
  • Yeah, this now just says that they were founded in these years, not that the source states they are part of the triple crown, which is sourced elsewhere. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:01, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• "Ronnie O'Sullivan has contested a record 29 finals, winning 21." Isn't sourced. Are readers expected to count entries in the tables? (Presumably that's how "Players to appear in multiple finals" is derived, as that doesn't have any sources either.)
  • That's a WP:COUNT things. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:01, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
    • WP:CALC? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:03, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
      • that's the one. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:42, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
• Source 4, from 2013, says Robertson is the "eighth player" to win the triple crown, does not support "Eleven players have won each of the events at least once"
  • There's a new source that specifically names them. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:01, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• I can't see how source 5 supports "Ray Reardon, who won the world championship on six occasions and the Masters once was unable to reach a UK Championship final.[5]"
  • Removed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:01, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• Refs on the UK Championship finals table are untidy- some cited at header, others against years.
• Refs inconsistent between, e.g. World Snooker Tour, worldsnooker.com. World Snooker. (I think some will be published by WPBSA as they date back before WS/WST.)
• The refs at the end of "List of Masters finals[28]" aren't very helpful, just refer to other refs., and I don't think they are the right ones anyway. (e.g. the Turner link is to his World Championship page)
  • That's a WP:BUNDLING thing. I've removed the stray Masters ref.Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:06, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
    • The examples in WP:BUNDLING show the sources when hovered over, not just other reference numbers. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:03, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
      • I have expanded these out, but I don't particularly think this looks better. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:42, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
• 1972 World Championship final score was probably 37–31 (see Talk:1972_World_Snooker_Championship)
  • Oh yes, done. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:06, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• List of World Snooker Championship winners - most recent source was accessed in 2019, but the list goes up to 2022. Again, I don't think just pointing to other refs is very helpful here.
  • Yeah, that's pretty normal, I can update the access-date on the snooker.org ref if you want. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:06, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
    • I think that woudl be better. "Archived from the original on 28 July 2019. Retrieved 24 February 2011." doesn't look right for something going up to 2022. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:03, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

I'll have another look after your responses. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:10, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

• "called the "modern era" of snooker" - needs a bit of rephrasing. The era is since 1969.
  • Reworded Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:42, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
• "non-ranking Masters" - as this is the only reference to "ranking" in the intro, either wikilink it or explain.
  • Removed, not really relevant Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:42, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
    • Support - I made a couple of very minor amends. I'm satisfied that this article meets the featured list criteria. The into is short, but I believe it adequately meets criterion 2. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:24, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments from SNUGGUMS

• With no evidence found to the contrary, I'll assume good faith that File:Ronnie O’Sullivan at Snooker German Masters (DerHexer) 2015-02-06 10.jpg is in fact the uploader's own work, so image review passes.
• You shouldn't use italics for BBC Sport, Eurosport, Eurosport UK, Sky Sports, Snooker.org, "cajt.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk", or "worldsnooker.com"
  • But these aren't publishers, so they should be listed under |work on cite web, which is what I have. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:22, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• "snookerscene.co.uk" is redundant for the refs already naming Snooker Scene
  • I've done some fixes. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:22, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• Date formats should be consistent within references, which in this case should be DMY per MOS:DATE
• ,I've run a script for this Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:22, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
• For the tables of winners, it looks like you tried to cite whole boxes with one general ref (or bundle) at the top, so is there a particular reason some individual listings have their own citations while others don't?
  • I've removed the errant refs. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:22, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

That's all from me. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:12, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

• • Cheers SNUGGUMS, I've made the changes. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:22, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
    • You can use "agency" field to remove the erroneous italics that "work" and "website" parameters auto-generate for some reason. Also, there's a formatting error with ref#19, and I forgot to mention that The Guardian should start with a capital T. Not so sure about using italics for "World Snooker Tour". SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 13:34, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
      • But these aren't agencies. That would be something like the Associated Press. If the cite web template is wrong for italicizing website/work information, that would be an issue with that template, not this article. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:42, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
        • In that case, I'll support the nomination, just be sure to link BBC Sport in ref#1 as well as Snooker Scene within ref#6. Hopefully the template can be adjusted so it doesn't add those italics by default (at least for website). SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:19, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

• Query - one thing I only just noticed (maybe it wasn't like that before) - why are there two separate groups of categories at the bottom of the article, one inside the usual box and the other oddly floating above it......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:49, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Whoops, fixed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:47, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments from TRM

• It really feels like the lead is inadequate for what we're looking to be "among the best content on Wikipedia". Perhaps some consideration needs to be given to expanding to include entry criteria for each of the Triple Crown events, perhaps what the winners of each event got etc.
  • I've added a bit. Hopefully that's suitable. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
• One image in the lead and then nothing? The rest of the list looks pretty bleak with just tables and nothing to enhance the reader's experience.
  • I can add a couple images. I'm not the biggest fan of the gallery down the right, but can put one in if necessary. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
• I think, IIRC, templates like {{dagger}} can take an "alt" parameter to explain them for accessibility.
  • Sure. Not really sure what this would say though. {{dagger|alt=footnote}} is the example given, but I don't think that's all that helpful. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
• Ref 2 lacks a date, either publication or access.
  • Removed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
• What is 888 sport?
  • Removed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
• No archive for ""Hall of Fame". Snooker.org. Retrieved 3 June 2022."?
  • Ran the archive script Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
• What makes "global-snooker.com" an RS? (note it seems to be hyphenated as well).
  • I tend to think it's a very good resource, and I've done a deep dive on it before, but can't find my notes. It doesn't cover anything that isn't already covered, so I can remove it. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
• I don't think this is an article under the "Snooker terminology" category.
  • Removed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

That's it. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:33, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Oppose from Sportsfan77777

You did a good job with the list on the Triple Crown (snooker) page, but from that list, I think it's clear that this one isn't up to that standard. Specifically, some differences where I prefer what was done on the Triple Crown page are:

• I would think the point of this article is to see which players came close to winning the Triple Crown or to track how many finals each player has reached over time. However, it doesn't seem like it can be used for either of those purposes because it's just three separate lists (that also basically just repeat lists on other pages at a lower quality). I would recommend figuring out how to make it a single chronological list like you did with the list on the Triple Crown (snooker) page.
  • I think that with more information on the table, that would just get confusing. I'm much happier with info on the tournament winners. I think the assumptions here are a bit misplaced, as if you were following a single player (say Steve Davis), his Triple Crown finals are listed on his own page in such a way. this is just a full list of all such finals. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:59, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
• Is there a reason for not using the flags?
  • Flag cruft pretty much. These are individual events, not national. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:59, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
• I would recommend having the counts of the finals: e.g. (1/1), (11/15), etc. the same way you have a count for the wins on the other page.
• I would recommend using color (and symbols) to indicate which players (a) made two finals, (b) made three finals, and (c) won the Triple Crown.

I see others have already pointed out issues with the lead being too short. Some things that are missing are:

• The article should distinguish that it's referring to the finals of the Triple Crown events, not the finals in which a Triple Crown was won. (As of now, it doesn't specify that the events that constitute the Triple Crown achievement are referred to as Triple Crown events.)
  • I've added a sentence. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:59, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
• The lead could mention more about how many players have made all three finals in the same year, how many of them won all three, and highlight who if anyone won the first two events in a year but messed up their chance in the final of the third one.

It seems like most of the article could be affected, so oppose at the moment, but I have confidence you can figure it out. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 06:59, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: I know that you've been quite busy recently, but do you plan on continuing to work on this nomination? --PresN 02:18, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, sorry. I hadn't forgotten at all, just had zero time. Will check this through ASAP! Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:01, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi Sportsfan77777, do you think your opposition has been sufficiently addressed in the above replies?--NØ 02:57, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Comments from NØ

• I would write "Eleven" as a numeral (11) to keep in line with the "29" and "21" in the preceding sentence.
  • Issue is, we don't ever start a sentence with a number, which is the problem here. Ive reworded to make this possible. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}
• Where is the source for the Players to appear in multiple finals table?
  • I'd argue MOS:CALC seeings we've sourced all of the individual finals MaranoFan. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:15, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Would be happy to support after these are addressed, Lee Vilenski. If you have the time, I would greatly appreciate a review on my current FAC. Best wishes.--NØ 16:14, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm just going to support. I suppose its the coords' responsibility to decide what do with the oppose that never came back.--NØ 11:10, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Comments from Rodney Baggins

I made a few improvements to this list article the other day, hope you don't mind. I would support this as a featured list apart from just one thing. I don't see how ref.6 verifies the statement: "The Triple Crown events are generally the most prestigious on the calendar, with the three winners in the 2021–22 snooker season earning more prize money than from any of the other events." Cheers, Rodney Baggins (talk) 15:47, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

In retrospect, maybe not the "prestigious" part. if you click on the individual events, it'll show the prize money given. This was the only way to show the prize money in contrast to the other events. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:30, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Z1720

• "is the achievement of winning three specific events:" I don't think "specific" is necessary since you are going to subsequently list the events so I think this can be removed.
  • I added the word "specific" here because otherwise it might appear, on first reading, that players just need to win any three events, rather than those three specific ones. I know the three are listed after the colon, but the addition of specific serves to make the statement crystal clear. Or could change it to "...winning these three events:" or "winning the following three events:"? Lee, it's your call! Rodney Baggins (talk) 09:35, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
    • I like "winning the following three events:" but "winning these three events" would work, too, and would make the phrasing more clear in my opinion. Z1720 (talk) 14:15, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
• "the World Snooker Championship reverted to being played as a knockout tournament in 1969," -> "the World Snooker Championship reverted to a knockout tournament in 1969," I don't think the removed content is necessary
• "with all subsequent competition" Delete all as redundant
  • Disagree. "with all subsequent competition" shows that the modern era is all snooker tournaments that came after the 1969 world championship. Removing those words would leave: "the World Snooker Championship reverted to a knockout tournament in 1969, considered as the "modern era" of snooker" – meaning that 1969 alone was considered the modern era, rather than the start of the modern era. Could change it to "the World Snooker Championship reverted to a knockout tournament in 1969, considered as the start of the "modern era" of snooker"? Lee, it's your call! Rodney Baggins (talk) 09:35, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
    • I'll leave this to Lee Vilenski's discretion. Z1720 (talk) 14:15, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
• "when it became open to all professional overseas players as well as those from the UK." -> "when it became open to all professional players." I don't think overseas and UK need to be outlined, as I think it creates a "for indoor and outdoor use only" situation where there are no other options (if there is a category of professional player that falls outside of overseas and British categories, then keep this in)

Source review

Version reviewed

• ISBNs should either have dashes or not have dashes
• Ref 2: Why is no author listed?
  • Added Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
• Ref 3: What makes this a high-quality source?
  • Published book from Eric Hayton, who used to write the European Football magazines. Seems like the highest quality to me. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
• Ref 4: What makes this a high-quality source?
  • Chris Turner is the guy who used to do the statistics for the BBC and Eurosport, and is generally deemed the second most renowned snooker historian after Clive Everton before his death. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
• Ref 6: What makes this a high-quality source?
  • It's an award winning statistical site, awarded by Britannia and the BBC. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
• Ref 6/9: Should Snooker.org be capitalised?
  • I actually have no idea. I was under the impression website parameters, where the title is just the website name it was lowercase. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
    • So I checked MOS:TITLECAPS and websites are not explicitly mentioned. It does mention that titles of works should be capitalised, but then we would need to discuss if a website name like "snooker.org" is considered the "title of a work". My interpretation is that capitalising websites in a "snooker.org" or "healthcare.gov" format in references is the article writer's choice, as long as it is consistent. Right now, "snooker.org" is not capitalised in ref 6, but is capitalised in refs 9 bullet 3, 10 bullet 3, and 11 bullet 3. Z1720 (talk) 14:15, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Those are my thoughts. Please ping when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 17:29, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I added a response above. Some of the bullet points above don't have a comment underneath them. Were they addressed/resolved? Z1720 (talk) 14:15, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Closing; while the source review was not formally closed I'm going to count it, and while there is an outstanding oppose it seems to be at odds with the opinions of the other reviewers for the bits that were not done. As such, promoting. --PresN 13:44, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of prime ministers of New Zealand

Nominator(s): YttriumShrew (talk) 21:59, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list status because I've checked it against the criteria and it seems to match all of them. It is similar to many existing featured lists of officeholders, such as List of prime ministers of India and List of premiers of Prince Edward Island. This was one of the first articles I edited and I have contributed to it a bit over the years, and am reasonably familiar with the source material. However, I would not count myself as a major contributor. Thus I will not take credit for its quality if promoted. YttriumShrew (talk) 21:59, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

No citations for the list..? Wretchskull (talk) 07:32, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

@Wretchskull: The list is cited to references 2 and 3. This was not clear from the inlines, and I have now fixed it. YttriumShrew (talk) 08:01, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• Paragraph 1 is unsourced

• Added some sources.

• Articles really shouldn't include the wording "This list includes" so try and find a way to reword

• I've reworded the sentence in a nicer way that hopefully solves the problem.

• You've changed "this list includes" to "this article lists", which is essentially the same thing. Articles should not contain "meta" references like that (at least not within the prose). I would suggest binning off that sentence completely and starting that paragraph off which something like "The holder of the office originally had the title of colonial secretary; this was changed to premier in 1869" and so on -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:43, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

• Okay. I've reworded it in a way that doesn't mention the article itself. YttriumShrew (talk) 21:14, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

• The lead feels like it could do with a little more content. Could you add info on the longest-serving PM, the oldest, the youngest, etc?

• Added oldest-youngest info. I can't think of much else to add, however.

• Follow-up; I've added another paragraph. YttriumShrew (talk) 04:25, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

• Could you put refs 2 and 3 against the "sub-headings" within the table? They look a bit weird just floating at the bottom......

• Fixed.

• A couple of entries have a dagger symbol next to the date of leaving office but it is not explained anywhere what this means

• Fixed. (Indicates the PM died in office.)

• That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:29, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

@ChrisTheDude: Done the above. Hopefully this addresses your concerns. YttriumShrew (talk) 08:22, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:24, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Pamzeis

Not gonna screw this up (hopefully)

• "The prime minister is the head of government of New Zealand" — This wording implies, to me, that all prime ministers are heads of governments in NZ; perhaps "In New Zealand, the prime minister is the head of government"

• Okay. I've changed the wording, hopefully this fixes the problem.

• "The prime minister is always a member of Parliament." — is unsourced?

• It was originally sourced to reference 1, but the references got moved around. Fixed.

• "should properly be given that title" — ...why?

• They are not considered prime ministers because New Zealand did not yet have responsible government. Have added clarification and sources.

Hope this helps :) Pamzeis (talk) 05:53, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

@Pamzeis: Hopefully fixed the above problems. YttriumShrew (talk) 08:13, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Pamzeis (talk) 03:48, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

• Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
• Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. ! rowspan="2" | Government becomes !scope=col rowspan="2" | Government. If the cell spans multiple columns, then use !scope=colgroup instead.
• Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. ! style="background:{{party color|Independent politician}};" |2 becomes !scope=row style="background:{{party color|Independent politician}};" |2. If the cell spans multiple rows, then use !scope=rowgroup instead.
• Finally, the table-spanning "interrupter" rows are contraindicated. What happens with screen reader software is that it treats it like it's the value for all the columns- so it reads out e.g. "No., Colonial Secretaries (1856–1869); Portrait, Colonial Secretaries (1856–1869); Name, Colonial Secretaries (1856–1869);", etc. Instead, since this isn't a sortable table, just split it into multiple tables and have the "interrupter" row text be the caption of that table.
• Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 23:01, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Possibly worth noting I did this two months ago and forgot to notify here. YttriumShrew (talk) 21:15, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Drive-by comments

• "Since 1935, every prime minister has been a member of the National and Labour parties, reflecting their domination of New Zealand politics." Could imply membership in both parties (obviously not possible, but...); use "either" "or".
  • Fixed.
• Number of male/female prime ministers. With three women PMs, only three other countries have had an equal number of heads of government (Poland, Lithuania, Iceland), and only two have had more (Finland, 4; Switzerland, 5). Women's Power Index, Council on Foreign Relations.
  • Added.
• Counting system a little unclear - a symbol indicating subsequent term of office might be better than bracketed numbering.
  • I personally think it's alright; it's used on many other lists of officeholders, including some featured ones. I have added an explanatory note.
• "Nine prime ministers have held the position for more than one discrete term in office." one parliamentary term?
  • No, it means for one period. Fixed.
• Both image captions - unclear why absent PMs are mentioned, recommend dropping. Add "from left" to second image.
  • Fixed

Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 05:25, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

@Goldsztajn: Someone finally commented! I believe concerns have been addressed. YttriumShrew (talk) 08:04, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

@YttriumShrew Made a few copy-edits. Support. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 12:24, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Comment

• I know there is a reference that lists all the Prime Ministers from 1856 in the reference section (which actually states in the list since 1865, so that needs to be fixed), but it's not clear what is currently referencing the tables. This reference should be put alongside the captions on all of the tables so it's clear to the reader what source is providing the information in the tables. Right now, it's not clear and I had to fish through the sources to find said source.
• "Since 1935, every prime minister has been a member of either the National party or the Labour party, reflecting their domination of New Zealand politics." This could do with a source
• "The title of the office was originally "colonial secretary", which was formally changed to "premier" in 1869, and then to "prime minister" in 1907 when New Zealand was granted Dominion status in the British Empire." This sentence is also unsourced.

NapHit (talk) 16:34, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

• The two references linked at the top of the Name column provide the information for all the entries. I'm not sure repeating those two references 40+ times is necessary. Perhaps an alternative is a single row across the bottom of all the tables with the text "Source: New Zealand Parliament, New Zealand Government" and a footnote for each. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 05:43, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

  Just looked at this more closely, the NZ History page from the NZ Government actually has individual webpages for each person, with an author credit. I change my view, there should be a separate column indicating each individual reference. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 06:03, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

• Not sure I made it clear what I was suggesting. Just a simple link next to the caption at the top of te tables would suffice. That ref lists all the Prime Ministers so we can just use that for all the tables at the top next to the caption rather than separate refs. NapHit (talk) 14:25, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

• @NapHit: So sorry that took so long. All should be done now. YttriumShrew (talk) 20:10, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

• No problem @YttriumShrew:. All my concerns have been addressed now so I'm happy to support. NapHit (talk) 20:37, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

  Hi @NapHit@YttriumShrew@Giants2008@ChrisTheDude. If I take the example of Richard Seddon in the list - the two links at the top do not indicate his constituency, his date of birth, his date of death, his five election victories. One needs to go to a subsequent page to find that information. From my point of view, this fails "statements are sourced where they appear" (3b), which requires "direct support" ("A source "directly supports" a given piece of material if the information is present explicitly in the source") (emphasis in original). Perhaps others will interpret this differently, I don't mean to be pedantic, but the links as they presently stand do not appear to lead one directly to the information that appears. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 02:17, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Independent politicians?

In the political party column, it would seem to me that "—" would be more appropriate than linking to independent politician as this is a period prior to the establishment of political parties, unless there are specific sources listing that person as an independent politician. The New Zealand Parliament page leaves the party column blank for those before John Ballance. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 05:51, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

@Goldsztajn: Fixed. YttriumShrew (talk) 20:10, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

• Source review – All of the citations are well-formatted and reliable, and the link-checker tool didn't pick up any dead links. I concur with NapHit in that only the Name column looks to be cited with the current formatting, which isn't really enough to meet FL sourcing criteria. If you don't want to repeat the cite in all columns, their suggestion looks to be the best option. Giants2008 (Talk) 17:44, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
  • @Giants2008: Yes. I have now done this. YttriumShrew (talk) 20:10, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Promoting; the issue raised about the general ref not giving all of the information at the landing page and requiring a clickthrough is taken, but as the links are obvious I see it as equivalent to a book cite with a page range or chapter title, and so not egregious enough to prevent promotion. --PresN 13:44, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of macroscelids

Nominator(s): PresN 21:33, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Here is number 22 in our ongoing journey of animal list FLCs (3 lists for Lagomorpha, 10 for Carnivora, 4 for Artiodactyla, and 1 each for Perissodactyla, Cingulata, Didelphimorphia, and Scandentia), with the last one in a subseries of single-list orders. In this one we find the 20 species of Macroscelidea, or elephant shrews, which despite the name aren't closely related to shrews or any rodent; the elephant part just comes from the nose looking kind of like a trunk, but it turns out they're actually in the same Afrotheria clade of six orders with elephants. These little mammals are native to a variety of habitats in Africa, generally the southern half, and all look fairly similar, though do note the black and rufous elephant shrew, which eschews the dusty camouflage of most of them for a striking black and red. We're missing a few photos of these guys due to their small and reclusive nature, but the science is up to date and the formatting reflects prior FLCs. This will be last one of these lists for a while—I took a break after this one to change genres. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 21:33, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• "They are all around a similar size, ranging from the Etendeka round-eared sengi, at 8 cm (3 in) plus a 8 cm (3 in) tail, to the grey-faced sengi, at 32 cm (13 in) plus a 26 cm (10 in) tail" - I think I mentioned this in a previous FLC, but is there a way to reword this? I appreciate that all these creatures are kinda of a similar size when compared to the entirety of the animal kingdom (i.e. they are small), but is it really accurate to say that they are of a similar size and then list two examples where one has a body literally four times the size of the other? Does that make sense?
• Wikilink biome as a slightly obscure word?
• Is it worth wikilinking savanna on the first usage? It may not be a term that all readers know.....
• Think that's all I got - great work as ever -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:08, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

• @ChrisTheDude: All done, thanks! --PresN 02:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:52, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Dank

• Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
• An excellent list.
• "Almost no macroscelid species have a population estimate, though the golden-rumped elephant shrew is considered endangered with a population of around 13,000.": I prefer something like: "The only macroscelid species with an International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) population estimate is the golden-rumped elephant shrew, listed as endangered with a population of around 13,000." (And then of course you can use just "IUCN" in the Conventions section ... see my next bullet point.)
• "Conservation status codes listed follow the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) Red List of Threatened Species. ... Ranges are based on the IUCN Red List for that species unless otherwise noted.": I prefer: "Unless otherwise noted, ranges and conservation status codes listed follow the IUCN Red List of Threatened Species." I have no preference on whether you keep the "otherwise noted" or where it should go.
• Alt text seems to be missing for the dusky-footed and Karoo rock elephant shrews.
• Checking the FLC criteria:
• 1. The prose is fine. There are no sortable columns. I sampled the links in the table.
• 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
• 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
• 3b. The article is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any actual problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
• 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
• 4. It is navigable.
• 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
• 6. It is stable.
• Close enough for a support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 18:18, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

• Text points done; not sure what you mean about the alt text as neither of those two has a species image (and all the ranges have visible text instead). --PresN 18:30, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

  Oops on the alt text. I get that "unless otherwise noted" complicates the question regarding the two "Red List" sentences, and I don't have any strong preference. Everything else looks great. - Dank (push to talk) 19:57, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Z1720

Prose

• No concerns with the lede.
• Why isn't there a citation for the classification section?

• Added

• I'm not sure if "Main article: Macroscelididae", as it this is the first wikilink in the first word of the article in the lede.

• Yeah, since there's only one family it looks weird, removed

Images

• "Elephantulus fuscus Peters 1852.jpg", "Elephantulus brachyrhynchus Smith 1839.jpg", "Elephantulus rupestris Smith 1839.tif", "Rhynchocyon chrysopygus-J Smit 2.jpg" all need a US public domain tag

• Added

• "Elephantulus fuscus Peters 1852.jpg" I could not find the image in the book that is listed as its source. Where did this image come from?

• The image as stated comes from one of the plates that came with the book (plate 19, in this case), rather than being printed in the book. They did that back in the 1850s. I do not know why the plates aren't included in the scan at the Munchener DigitalisierungsZentrum Digitale Bibliothek linked; presumably they're in a different record. The book scan listed does refer to plate 19 for this species, however.

• After searching a couple of different places, I finally found the image on Google books, and replaced the source link because the image was not in the original link. The Google books image is in colour, but I'm fine with keeping this black-and-white image if desired. Z1720 (talk) 16:22, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Source review

• Sources are high quality.
• No formatting concerns.

Please ping me when the concerns above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 01:41, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: responded inline, thanks! --PresN 15:43, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Support Added comment above about E. fuscus image. All other concerns were addressed. Z1720 (talk) 16:22, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of didelphimorphs

Nominator(s): PresN 17:55, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Here is number 20 in our perpetual journey of animal list FLCs (3 lists for Lagomorpha, 10 for Carnivora, 4 for Artiodactyla, 1 for Perissodactyla, and 1 for Cingulata), with another in a series of single-list orders. We continue from the other open FLC for the order Cingulata (armadillos) to here with the 129 species of Didelphimorphia, aka opossums. These animals come in a fairly wide variety of shapes and sizes, though they're all long-tailed marsupials who mostly eat fruit and insects. This order has a lot of similarities to Cingulata, in that it has a single species—the Virginia opossum—up in North America (where I'm from), but a ton down in Mexico and South America. Also like that order, there's been a bunch of research in the past couple of decades, resulting in species being split into multiples and new subfamilies created where opossums that looked similar turned out to be very different on a genetic level, but this list is up to date on the latest research. As always, this list should reflect comments from prior FLCs. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 17:55, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• Is the diet of the Peruvian opossum unknown? If so, it might be worth specifically writing that so it doesn't just look like it's been missed
• Under the Junin slender opossum, you have "Size: 9–11 cm (4–4 in) long", which looks a bit odd. I presume this is due to a template, but is there any way to get round it?
• That's all I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:16, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

• @ChrisTheDude: Fixed both, as well as a few others that had 4-4 in. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 21:05, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:07, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

• Wow I had no idea there were so many opossums, lots of cute ones! Same quality as your others and I couldn't find any issues. Support Reywas92^Talk 19:15, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments from Z1720

• Should the "Classification" section have citations? It's not part of the lede, so is this information verified elsewhere in the article?
• No prose concerns in the lede
• Image check:
  • DidelphysWaterhousiiWolf.jpg, Monodelphis dimidiata.jpg need a US public domain tag
  • ALT tex is included in all images
• Source check: Version reviewed
  • Pass, no concerns.
  • Spot checked: ref 3, 37, 134 (passed)
  • I'm not sure what ref 1 is verifying? Can someone direct me to where it verifies "Over one hundred extinct Didelphimorph species have been discovered, though due to ongoing research and discoveries the exact number and categorization is not fixed."?

Please ping when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 14:21, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: Citations added to "Classification", image tags updated. Ref 1: Unfortunately, there is generally no good single-page reference for prehistoric species in a given order, so instead we rely on citing a multi-page database. In this case, you can verify that there are 100+ species underneath Didelphimorphia by counting the species listed in the "subtaxa" links (and their subtaxa links, and so on). Unfortunately, the "View classification" link just gives you "A full classification of the subtaxa is too large to display here", so we're left with a more obnoxious method. --PresN 16:55, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Support That's extremely annoying about ref 1, but it is what it is. Image copyright banners are added, Classification section now has citations. All of my concerns are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 17:53, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

• Source review – All of the sources appear to be reliable and well-formatted, and no issues were identified by the link-checker tool. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:27, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of Billboard Tropical Airplay number ones of 1997

Nominator(s): Erick (talk) 01:12, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

With the Latin pop #1's of 1997 done, here is the tropical #1's of the same year. This year was really good for tropical music, with this list having some of my favorite tunes! Erick (talk) 01:12, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments from ChrisTheDude

• "It was succeed by Grupo Manía's song "Linda Eh" where it remained on top of the charts for four weeks" => "It was succeeded by Grupo Manía's song "Linda Eh", which remained on top of the chart for four weeks"
• "Starr had previously established herself freestyle artist" => "Starr had previously established herself as a freestyle artist"
• "returned to music scene" => "returned to the music scene"
• "She is the only female artist to have a number one on the Tropical Airplay chart in 1997" => "She was the only female artist to have a number one on the Tropical Airplay chart in 1997"
• Grupo Mania photo caption seems to have too many quote marks after the song title
• That's what I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:52, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

  As always, thank you for the comments! I have addressed them all. Erick (talk) 17:27, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:30, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

Minor: when using rowscopes (scope=row), if the cell spans multiple rows, then use !scope=rowgroup instead. --PresN 19:51, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

@PresN: Sorry for the late response, it's been fixed! Erick (talk) 13:35, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Z1720

Lede

• "Negrón spent a total of 12 weeks at number one" -> "Negrón spent 12 weeks at number one" I think this will tighten up the language.
• ""Inolvidable" was named the best-performing track of the year" Who named it this?

Image check

• "File:FrankieNegronAirgo.jpg" The source of the image is not linked. The banner to this image asks to check with the source to verify this, but I am unable to do so. I suggest swapping this image or removing it.

Source check

• Ref 1: Billboard should be wikilinked

Those are my thoughts. Please ping when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 19:26, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720 Done and done. Fun fact: That image I replaced Negrón is the one I personally took way back in 2011. Erick (talk) 19:14, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: I'm getting a red link on the Negron image. Was the correct file name used? Z1720 (talk) 19:48, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720 Works fine on my end. Perhaps it needed to cache for the day since I cropped the image yesterday? Erick (talk) 14:48, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

The image works for me now, but it is quite long on my screen. Is there a way to crop the bottom of the image so that it is more square and focused on his face? Z1720 (talk) 15:42, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720 So I've cropped it further as suggested, but the changes don't show up yet. In the meantime, I'm using 150px. How does it look now? Erick (talk) 19:26, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Sorry that I haven't responded. The article looks good so I can support. Z1720 (talk) 13:36, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Dank

• Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
• Checking the FLC criteria:
• 1. I've done some minor copyediting; feel free to revert or discuss. I checked sorting on all sortable columns and sampled the links in the table.
• 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
• 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
• 3b. The list is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any actual problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
• 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
• 4. It is navigable.
• 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
• 6. It is stable.
• Support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 21:26, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of Billboard number-one R&B songs of 1952

Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:40, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi everyone, here's my 11th nomination of a list of number ones on the precursor of the Billboard R&B/hip-hop chart. This one goes out to my dad, who absolutely loves the music of Fats Domino, who had his first chart-topper in this year...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:40, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Pseud 14

• Great work on another well-written series! My only comment is how "5–10–15 Hours" is sorted as "Five Ten Five" instead of being sorted in numeric order? --Pseud 14 (talk) 18:29, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

@Pseud 14: - amended -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:53, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support --Pseud 14 (talk) 18:59, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Source review

• This is not required for the FLC, but I would encourage you to archive all your web citations to avoid future annoyance with link rot and death. This suggestion was brought on after I saw Citations 6, 7, and 10 are not archived.
• I know this is a pain, but for the Billboard citations through Google Books, I would include the ISSNs so the citation has all the information.
• All the citations are reliable and high-quality for a featured list. They are all from publications that I would expect to see in this kind of list.
• I have done a few spot checks, and from what I have seen at least, all of the information in the article is accurate and supported by the citations.

Solid job as always. This will pass my source review once the Billboard citations are complete. The citation archiving is more of a suggestion than anything. Best of luck with this FLC! Aoba47 (talk) 00:07, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

• @Aoba47: - added the ISSN. Can you remind me of the bot/script/thingy that I can run to archive the citations? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:22, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

• Thank you for your response. Here is the link to the IABot. Since archiving is not a required part of the FLC process. This passes my source review. If possible, I'd appreciate any help with my current peer review, but I completely understand if you do not have the time or interest. Either way, have a great rest of your week! Aoba47 (talk) 15:43, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Dank

• Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
• There may or may not be a copyright issue with the B.B. King image, judging by the uploader's talk page on Commons; also, this doesn't look to me like a photo taken by a fan. Regarding the Dominoes image, is there any indication that Maurice Seymour Studio has waived their rights?
• A table caption is required, with or without an sronly template, so I added one.
• Checking the FLC criteria:
• 1. I've done a little copyediting; feel free to revert or discuss. I checked sorting on all sortable columns and sampled the links in the table.
• 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
• 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
• 3b. The article is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any actual problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
• 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
• 4. It is navigable.
• 5. It meets style requirements. The images seem fine apart from the points already mentioned.
• 6. It is stable. - Dank (push to talk) 19:20, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Dank: many thanks for adding the caption, I can't believe I am still forgetting that. I have replaced the two images you queried -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:18, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Support. Looks great. - Dank (push to talk) 20:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Z1720

• No concerns about the prose in the lede.
• Image check pass: licencing is good, upright is used, ALT text used, captions good.
• Source check pass: all high quality, formatting is good.
• Note a is placed next to August 2, which says that two songs tied that particular week, but I think only Lawdy is listed for that particular week. Is "Have Mercy Baby" also supposed to be listed for that week? If so, the chart needs to be fixed. Z1720 (talk) 00:37, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: - Many thanks for your review, I fixed August 2. Still not 100% sure what the issue was (even after all these years I still have the occasional issue with table syntax) but I found a workaround..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:30, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Support I have no more concerns. Z1720 (talk) 13:23, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of accolades received by Despicable Me 2

Nominator(s): Chompy Ace 11:33, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Despicable Me 2 is one of the best films of 2013 that received the most accolades that any Despicable Me film did. Here's a list of its accolades, as always I am open to constructive criticism on how to improve it. Chompy Ace 11:33, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support - I couldn't find anything. great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:18, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments by RunningTiger123

• The infobox doesn't seem to match the table. The infobox lists 11 wins/54 noms but the total says 8 wins/51 noms, and the table itself includes 8 wins/52 noms.
• who is used three times in two sentences in the lead – suggest rewriting to remove at least one occurrence
• It garnered – the film or the soundtrack?
• Move note 1 to the recipients column

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 18:54, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

RunningTiger123  Done except for the fourth point: Notes are distinct from References. Chompy Ace 05:36, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

@RunningTiger123 last amend made. Thanks, Indagate (talk) 07:20, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Support – RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:42, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Z1720

• No concerns with the lede
• Lots of wikilinks in the chart which are not needed. While not necessary for a support, consider MOS:REPEATLINK and if every instance of "Despicable Me" should be wikilinked.
• Image check - pass
• Source check: Version reviewed
• Ref 11: Suggest archiving
• No other concerns with formatting or quality of sources.

Support: no major concerns, everything listed above is optional for my support but I hope will be considered. Z1720 (talk) 17:30, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

• Source review – Reference reliability and formatting both look okay throughout, and no issues were detected by the link-checker tool. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:37, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

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59th Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards

Nominator(s): RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:27, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

I've been working on more recent Emmy ceremonies, but I saw the sad state this list was in and decided to completely redo it. Fun fact: This ceremony saw the first "broadband" nominee. To quote one article, "Twenty years from now, when Emmy [sic] only recognizes programming found on the Internet, historians will point to the mostly forgotten Drive as the show that started it all." Seems pretty accurate to me. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:27, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee received five wins from 11 nominations, leading all programs in both categories" - what are "both" categories? The last mention of categories said there were 66? Do you mean across the two ceremonies?
• If the presenters are in alpha order, Miley Cyrus should be after her dad
• That's all I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:21, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
  • @ChrisTheDude: Done. RunningTiger123 (talk) 23:13, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:25, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Birdienest81

• Per MOS:CONFORMTITLE, titles of TV series and movies should be italicized even in citations.
• Per MOS:QWQ, quotations within quotations (namely quotations inside the article title) should be formated with half quotation)

Bob said: "My favorite episode of Cheers is 'Thanksgiving Orphans' which aired in 1986."

Otherwise this is good.

--Birdienest81talk 09:32, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@Birdienest81: Done. RunningTiger123 (talk) 15:08, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

• Support: Good work.

-- Birdienest81talk 00:02, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Dank

• Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
• Checking the FLC criteria:
• 1. No problem with the prose. I checked sorting on all sortable columns and sampled the links in the tables.
• 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
• 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
• 3b. The list is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any actual problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
• 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
• 4. It is navigable.
• 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
• 6. It is stable.
• Support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 20:15, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Z1720

• No concerns with prose in the lede

Image check

• Licencing is good.
• Instead of px, use upright per MOS:IMAGESIZE

Source check

Version reviewed, spotcheck not done

• No concerns with quality or formatting.

Please ping when the image concern is addressed. Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 15:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: Issues have been fixed. RunningTiger123 (talk) 00:49, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Support. My concerns have been addressed. Z1720 (talk) 01:43, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of roles and awards of Oscar Isaac

Nominator(s): FrB.TG (talk) and Chompy Ace (talk) 10:28, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

After recently taking Oscar Isaac's biography to FA, here's his work and awards list in collaboration with Chompy Ace, who created the list and sourced the table. Have at it. FrB.TG (talk) 10:28, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Pseud 14

• Titles starting with The should sort based on the next word of the title
• Roles should sort under last name (e.g. Abel Morales under M)
• Abbreviation should be consistent Ref(s) = Reference(s)
• I would put the "legend/key" box after table of contents.
• Isaac won his first major role in the biblical drama -- tweak to avoid confusion, since this is his first major role, and he did not actually win (an award/recognition) for the film.
• Beginning the 2010s -- In 2010 would be simple and direct, since he only did one film.
• Isaac followed by playing -- Isaac followed this by playing
• That's all for me. --Pseud 14 (talk) 17:02, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks, Pseud. All changes incorporated here. FrB.TG (talk) 17:38, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support - Great work! Pseud 14 (talk) 20:17, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

If you have time and interest FrB.TG, I would greatly appreciate any feedback for my current BLP peer review.

Comments

• "Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse Miguel O'Hara / Spider-Man 2099 Cameo; voice role; character credited as "Interesting Person #1"" - so which is it? We've got a specific role named in the second column but then a different credit in the third.......?
• That's all I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:44, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the comment, Chris. I've clarified it now. FrB.TG (talk) 09:21, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:34, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments from TRM

• "parts in Joseph Adler's 2000 productions" it's not 100% obvious that these are stage performances.
• "the biblical drama " also then no way of knowing this is a film.
• "next few years" doesn't feel very encylopedic.
• Second para uses Isaac a lot when the subject is unambiguous, could use "he" every so often.
• "to play Hamlet in a major" our article on the character is at Prince Hamlet.
• "included playing roles" no need for "playing".
• Where is, for example, his role as "executive producer" of Lightningface? Producer in Operation Finale? Etc.

You mean in the lead? It already mentions his role as a producer in OF. I've also added his role as an exec. producer in Moon Knight now.

• Title says this includes his "awards" but it also includes all his nominations. Is it the right title?
• Note d, seems odd, he was nominated alongside them, he didn't share the nomination did he i.e. if one of them won, all three of them wouldn't have won together, right?

That's all I have for now. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:40, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, The Rambling Man, for your comments. These are the changes I made in regard to them. FrB.TG (talk) 19:32, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: do you think you could finish your review one of these days? Thanks. FrB.TG (talk) 09:41, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Support my concerns addressed. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:28, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of Hyouka episodes

Nominator(s): Takipoint123 (talk) 13:07, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it is a comprehensive list that meets the FLC criteria, and I think it looks similar to other anime-related FLCs. Thanks! Takipoint123 (talk) 13:07, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Pamzeis

Hope I won't screw this up

• "is a 22 episode" → is a 22-episode
• Optional but I think "animated television series" would flow better than "television animation series"
• "novel of the same name, Hyouka" → novel of the same name (naming the novel is unneeded as the reader already knows it has the same name)
• Does "series composition" mean writing? The way it's worded... I thought the job was like a producer or something
• "around the events Houtarou Oreki" — I had to read this a few times before I understood... because I thought the character was an event... maybe that's just an issue for me...
• "released on August and" → released in August and
• "North America on July and" → North America in July and
• Link Crunchyroll at its first mention
• Is the theme music relevant enough for the lead? It seems like mere trivia and fancruft to me
• Make sure all citations conform with MOS:CITEPUNCT
• The theme music singers need a source
• "Two volumes of Hyouka's drama CDs were released." — kinda awkward and clunky
• Per MOS:CONFORMTITLE, titles of works like Hyouka need to be italicised in citations

Hope this helps :) Pamzeis (talk) 15:18, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@Pamzeis: Thanks for you comments! I think I got everything that you pointed out... but as for the music I think it should be fine to keep it there as it seems other anime FL articles seems to point it out like List of Puella Magi Madoka Magica episodes and List of Yuri on Ice episodes. Thanks! Takipoint123 (talk) 16:50, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@Pamzeis: Sorry, I just realized I had to italicize the citations! I've italicized them. Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks :) Takipoint123 (talk) 04:07, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Pamzeis (talk) 05:34, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments from ChrisTheDude

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:05, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

*"series composition by Shoji Gatoh" - what's "series composition"? series composition is a role like director, typically used in Japanese entertainment. A lot of anime-related articles use this term.[12] "The series centers around the events first-year high school student Houtarou Oreki faces" => "The series centers around the events which first-year high school student Houtarou Oreki faces" Corrected Is there an appropriate wikilink for whatever a "drama-CD volume" is? Linked to Drama CD, a redirect to Radio drama "who wants to know how the room was locked in" => "who wants to know how the room was locked" Corrected What's an "eyecatch"? An eyecatch seems to be something like an endcard (Forgive the reddit link, but this is an example from the anime) [13]. I've just found that eyecatch redirects to Bumper_(broadcasting)#Japan so link that...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:09, 2 July 2022 (UTC) @ChrisTheDude: Thank you for pointing that out! I just linked it to the first episode "Eyecatch" since I thought it would be repetitive to link it to every single one of them, but I'll do that if you prefer it. Takipoint123 (talk) 17:34, 2 July 2022 (UTC) "name the Classic Literature Club anthologies as Hyōka" - is this the same word as the title of the series? If so, why is it spelt differently here? I've corrected them to Hyouka. (Hyōka is the same spelling with Hyouka and is just a different way of romanizing Japanese.) "which turn out to be a yukata" - should be "which turns out". Also, is there a wikilink for whatever a "yukata" is? corrected and linked. That's what I got as far as episode 9 but I need to break off now. Back for more later -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:30, 1 July 2022 (UTC) More comments from ChrisTheDude "a solution with which almost satisfies everyone" => "a solution which satisfies almost everyone" Corrected "he forgot to find a role to the rope" => "he forgot to find a role for the rope" Corrected "he shares his views with Eru on what Hongou probably wanted, who is" => "he shares his views on what Hongou probably wanted with Eru, who is" Corrected "Eru does excellent" => "Eru does excellently" Corrected "He asks some help from Satoshi" => "He asks for some help from Satoshi" Corrected "Hotaro knew that school president and vice president was" => "Hotaro knew that the school president and vice president were" Corrected "volunteer to retrieve sake lees" - what are "sake lees"? It is an alternative name of Sake kasu, and I added the appropriate link. "Satoshi attributes on the quality" - "attributes" really isn't a valid word in this sentence, but I'm not 100% sure what you are trying to say so I can't suggest an alternative....... I've changed the sentence to: Satoshi attributes on the quality -> Satoshi refuses to receive her chocolate, criticizing the quality of the chocolate she made. "contemplates on the fact that Satoshi" => "contemplates the fact that Satoshi" Corrected That's what I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:17, 1 July 2022 (UTC) @ChrisTheDude: Thank you for a thorough review of the article, it is quite a lengthy one :) I've clarified/corrected based on your comments.--Takipoint123 (talk) 21:38, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:05, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments from Tintor2

Nice article. I hope it becomes FL so I'll just mention the few issues:

• Give an alt to the image.
  • Done
• Add trans-title to the Japanese references.
  • Done
• There is no obligatory rule but dates format in references should be consistent.
  • Done
• Wikilink anime in the first sentence.
  • Done
• Who published the DVDs in Japan?
  • Added BD BOX citation that shows that it was released by Kadokawa Shoten, if that is sufficient(?)
  • Also added the label for the Drama CDs
• The second paragraph is kinda big. I would suggest splitting the Japanese content from the English ones.
  • Done
• Is it necessary to add eyecathes? Might come across as trivia or fancruft based on MOS
  • Removed
• Are macrons used by the publishers? Cos it's kinda inconsistent.
  • I've changed them all to Hyouka unless they were the titles of the article in citations.
• Is it possible to have a brief premise about the the drama cd narrative? See this FL as example.
  • Unfortunately I don't think I have any reliable sources nor access to the actual Drama CDs, so I'm not too sure if I can add a premise.

Remember to ping me once you fix it.Tintor2 (talk) 22:08, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

@Tintor2: Thanks for the suggestions, and I've made corrections made above--Takipoint123 (talk) 01:29, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Giving my support.Tintor2 (talk) 14:26, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 13:51, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of commanders of the British 1st Armoured Division

Nominator(s): EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 01:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

After a bit of a break, I am back with a new list (will work on the prior failed nom, due to my absence, at a later date and I apologize for not being able to action that more timely). This is the list of commanding officers for the British 1st Armoured Division, which was formed in 1937 and lasted until 1945. It was briefly revived between 1946 and 1947 (a 1st Armoured Division was formed in the 1970s and lasted until the 2000s, but as that was created by the renaming of the 1st Division, its commanding officers are included on a separate list dedicated to the 1st Division). This particular division fought in the Second World War, seeing action in France, North Africa, and Italy with two of its commanding officers becoming wounded in the line of duty. Look forward to all feedback.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 01:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• "who would receive orders" => "who receives orders" (as the sentence is talking generally about the concept of a GOC - alternatively change the whole thing to past tense but make it refer to this specific division i.e. "The division was commanded by a general officer commanding (GOC), who received orders"
• "and then use the forces" => "and then uses the forces" (or "used" if you follow the second suggestion above)

  I have opted for the latter choice, and have tried to reword accordingly for both these points.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 13:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

• "It was during this period that it was temporarily renamed the 1st British Armoured Division2 - you haven't mentioned its (apparent) earlier renaming, so probably worth adding that in

  Added inEnigmaMcmxc (talk) 13:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

• "ceased to be an operation formation" - should that say "operational".....?

  Yes, and correctedEnigmaMcmxc (talk) 13:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

• "During Evan's tenure" - apostrophe in wrong place

  Moved to where it should beEnigmaMcmxc (talk) 13:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

• "the division mobilized" - UK subject so UK spelling should be used

  UpdatedEnigmaMcmxc (talk) 13:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

• " Lumsden was wounded in action on 19 July 1942" - complete sentence so needs a full stop. Same with the one on the line below

  Period added to this sentence, and also the one below (which I have just added some extra content to).EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 13:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

• "On 5 April 1943, the division was redesignated as the 1st British Armoured Division" - needs a full stop

  Period added

• Is it really necessary to put "acting commander" in the notes column when you have "acting" in the first column?

  I was just thinking the same when I was relooking over the article, and now removed.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 13:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

• That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

  Thank you for your review and comments. I have attempted to action them all.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 13:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• Playfair et all (2004b) is not used and should be removed.
• Support

Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:45, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

• Thank you for your review, comment, and support. I have removed the excess book.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 15:17, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. For some reason, for the "primary" cell of each column, you have an empty scope instead of a rowscope; e.g. !scope=align="center" should be !scope=row align="center". --PresN 19:48, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

I updated per the above, although it ignored the code to center the text. I entered a semi-colon between the two and that has factored in the center aligned text again. Not sure if that impacts the accessibility part. Are you able to take a look and establish if the change has worked?EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 08:58, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Z1720

• No concerns about the lede.
• Image check: pass
• Source check: Version reviewed. One concern: Why does Ref 1 say "The Divisional System" instead of a page number?

Those are my comments. Please ping when the above is answered. Z1720 (talk) 17:02, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

@@Z1720: Thank you for the review and the above comments. This particular work I was unable to obtain a physical or e-copy so had to rely on Google Books and a version that did not include the page numbers. As a result, I was forced to cite the chapter instead.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 03:39, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Support. For ref 1, I tried to find another copy of the book with page numbers but was unsuccessful. It'll just have to be left as it is. Z1720 (talk) 13:35, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Promoting. --PresN 13:52, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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52nd Academy Awards

Nominator(s): Birdienest81talk 09:32, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

I am nominating the 1980 Oscars for featured list because we believe it has great potential to become a Featured List. I followed how the 1929, 1979, 1981, 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 ceremonies were written. Birdienest81talk 09:32, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support - I got nothing at all. Great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:04, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments by RunningTiger123

• "23 categories" – I count 22? (Unless the Special Achievement Award counts, I can't remember)
• Duration in infobox needs better source if possible (source 25 is okay but not great)
• Any reason ratings are omitted from infobox when other years include them?
• "posthumous nomination" – citation needed
• "E=MC2 mon amour" should be written as "E=mc² mon amour", based on this French Wikipedia article and other sources
• "Its So Nice..." → "It's So Nice..."
• I think the ceremony was nominated for some Emmys per this, but I'll search for more sources to confirm.
  • Update: This Hollywood Reporter article confirms it, I can add the information later. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:22, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:03, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

• @RunningTiger123: - Done: I have read your comments and have responded to them by making the proper adjustments based on them. Thank you.

--Birdienest81talk 09:18, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Support – RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:32, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Z1720

No prose concerns

Source review

Version reviewed

• Ref 29: If this is a single page, it should be "p", not "pp"

Image review

• No licencing concerns
• No caption concerns
• No formatting concerns

Please ping when the source review comment is addressed. Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 01:02, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

• @Z1720: Done: Fixed the page number by change the field from plural to singular.

--Birdienest81talk 09:42, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

• Support. No other concerns. Z1720 (talk) 13:27, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Cowlibob

• Would it be possible to mention who won the Big Five in the lead as that is what most people looking at this article will look for
• Also a summary of the critical reception that the ceremony received would be useful in the lead and the ratings/viewership compared to the previous year.
• The Johnny Carson pic alttext probably needs more description like "A black and white photograph of Johnny Carson in 1970" Cowlibob (talk) 12:22, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

• @Cowlibob: Done -- Thanks for the comments.

--Birdienest81talk 10:11, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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Melon Music Award for Song of the Year

Nominator(s): ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 02:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

This is my third FLC and second Melon Music Award FLC after Melon Music Award for Album of the Year was recently passed. This category is the next one in the series I would like to do, I think this list presents winners and nominees in a comprehensive matter with reliable sources. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 02:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• "to base its awards to artists" => "to present awards to artists"
• "the criteria for accolade" => "the criteria for the accolade"
• "Wonder Girls received the Best Song award in 2007–08" - this is a complete sentence so needs a full stop
• Same with "Twice won the award for "Cheer Up" in 2016"
• Think that's all I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:42, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

@ChrisTheDude: Done, thanks for the instant comments! ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 07:28, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:40, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments by RunningTiger123

• "Quality song containing both lyrics and melody" – this part of the infobox feels superfluous, and it's unsourced. Either cite it (in the infobox or in the lead) or remove it altogether.
• "becoming one its grand prizes" → "becoming one of its grand prizes"
• Add timestamps to all cited videos
• Wonder Girls should be linked in caption like the other groups
• Don't hide nominees for 2009 (I'm not an expert, but I don't think that hiding table content is good for accessibility)
• The green navboxes at the bottom of the page fail accessibility requirements (see MOS:COLOR). Please pick a new color scheme and verify that it works using this website or a similar tool.

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:13, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

@RunningTiger123 Done ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 18:35, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Do you think having "See 2009 Melon Music Awards#Winners and nominees" in the nominees column for 2009 is sufficient? Because I feel that with the way it is now, 2009 alone takes up a lot of room in the table. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 01:15, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm personally fine with it as is. If you want to link to another page, I would suggest using an anchor in case the section title changes; see MOS:BROKENSECTIONLINKS. Either way, happy to support now. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:53, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments from Z1720

• "while BTS and 2NE1 follow with the second most nominations with five each." -> "while BTS and 2NE1 have the second most nominations with five each." To tighten up the language
• Why are the nominees not given for 2009? If there was no shortlist given, should it be assumed that there was not shortlist and therefore all of them were nominated?
• Image review: pass (no concerns)
• Source review: Version reviewed
  • Ref 3: Is Naver referring to Naver, and should it be wikilinked?
  • Ref 14, 20, 22: YouTube should be wikilinked
  • Ref 23: Should wikilink to SBS PopAsia
  • Ref 27: Billboard should wikilink to Billboard (magazine)
  • Ref 31: This should note when the event takes place (ie the award is given)

Please ping when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 02:28, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720 All done. Nominees are not shown for 2009 as I think it takes an unnecessary large portion of the table if all of them are listed. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 01:52, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

• Support. My concerns have been addressed. Z1720 (talk) 13:42, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 19:21, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

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Manga Taishō

Nominator(s): Morgan695 (talk) 20:35, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

The Manga Taishō is one of several annually-awarded manga industry prizes recognizing critical achievement in manga. It is somewhat unique in its field in that is judged by a committee of "manga enthusiasts" – mostly bookstore employees – rather than the editors of a given publishing company. I have recently reorganized the list of nominees and winners into a sortable table and significantly expanded the lede, and believe it now meets FLC requirements. I welcome any comments that would improve the list further. Morgan695 (talk) 20:35, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Support from ChrisTheDude

• A Bride's Story should sort under B not A
• I think that's all I've got - great work!! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:25, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
  • @ChrisTheDude: Hi, thanks for your comment. I believe the three instances of A Bride's Story in the primary table are already using Template:Sort to alphabetize under B rather than A. Is there another instance I'm missing? Morgan695 (talk) 15:42, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
    • @Morgan695: - sorry, that seems to be a massive brain-fart on my part - it's actually "A Silent Voice" that erroneously sorts under A at the moment....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:47, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
      • @ChrisTheDude: Fixed. Morgan695 (talk) 15:50, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:51, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Support from Link20XX

After giving this a look-over, it definitely shows great improvement from what it used to be. As for comments:

• The links for Yugo Kobayashi and Naoya Matsumoto link to individuals that are in no way connected to the manga
  • Fixed.
• Makoto Kobayashi links to a dab page
  • Fixed.
• Chica Umino/Chika Umino is inconsistently romanized on the page
  • Fixed.
• Add a comma after March 28, 2008 in the lead per WP:DATECOMMA
  • Added.

That is all. Link20XX (talk) 00:24, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

@Link20XX: Hi, comments above. Morgan695 (talk) 02:53, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Alright, after giving the article an even more thorough review, I found a couple more issues:

• Mashiro no Oto has an English title, Those Snow White Notes, which is also the title of the main article, so it should be changed to that
  • Fixed.
• Kokkoku should have a piped link with its subtitle Moment by Moment since that seems to be how this article treats series titles with subtitles
  • Added.
• Why does the entry on Sanzoku Diary have a stray comma after it? Is this comma part of the title?
  • Removed.
• Watashi no Shōnen has an English article at My Boy (manga), so this does not need to link to the Japanese article
  • Fixed.

I promise that this is all this time and I will happily support once these issues are addressed. Link20XX (talk) 04:35, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

@Link20XX: No worries, I appreciate your thoroughness. Comments above. Morgan695 (talk) 04:54, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Support Great job with this. You've earned my support. Link20XX (talk) 04:56, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

• You're good on the accessibility bits, with one small exception: for the row scopes on the "primary" column for each row (which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table), if the cell spans multiple rows, then use !scope=rowgroup instead of !scope=row. You have this on the first "row", but not after that.
• Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 00:08, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
  • I believe this is resolved now. If anyone who has more experience building tables could double check for me, it would be appreciated. Morgan695 (talk) 00:23, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Support from Z1720

• "Most recently, the prize was awarded to Darwin Jihen by Shun Umezawa [ja] in 2022." I suggest taking this out as it can become dates, which MOS:DATED says to avoid.
  • It seems like a fairly standard practice to note the most recent winner in award-focused FACs (Billboard Latin Music Award for Hot Latin Song of the Year, Academy Award for Best Actress, GLAAD Media Award for Outstanding Comic Book, etc.) I get the concern about information becoming outdated, but that would seem to be a built-in deficiency for articles on awards that have new nominees/recipients on an annual basis, and copy like this would presumably be updated whenever new nominees and winners are announced.
    • While it is expected that articles like this will be updated every year, I see many featured content is not updated because the editor who nominated the article has left. I prefer to minimize the amount of text that needs to be updated, and the most recent winner is already noted in the infobox. Another option is to remove the "most recently" statement and replace it with something like "The inaugural Manga Taishō was awarded on March 28, 2008,[7] to Gaku: Minna no Yama by Shinichi Ishizuka [ja] and to Darwin Jihen by Shun Umezawa [ja] in 2022." At least this way if it is not updated it will not fall afoul to MOS:CURRENT as much. Z1720 (talk) 21:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
      • Done.
• "Since its inception, the Manga Taishō has been awarded to fifteen manga series." Another sentence that will become outdated next year, and I suggest removing.
  • Ditto for above.
    • In this case, I think this sentence can be reworked to something like "Since its inception, the Manga Taishō has been awarded yearly" or "Since its inception, the Manga Taishō has been awarded yearly, with fifteen winners as of 2022." The first option will not need to be updated, and the second option should be updated yearly, but if it is not at least the statement will not interfere with MOS:CURRENT as much. Z1720 (talk) 21:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
      • Done.
• Image check: pass
• Source check: Version reviewed, no concerns.

Please ping when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 02:40, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: Hi, reply above. Morgan695 (talk) 20:58, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Added some thoughts above. I will totally understand if you disagree, and won't push the point after this, but let me know what is decided. Thanks. Z1720 (talk) 21:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: Response above. Morgan695 (talk) 18:33, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Support: My concerns have been addressed. Z1720 (talk) 19:49, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Promoting. --PresN 19:21, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of World Heritage Sites in Italy

Nominator(s): Tone 07:45, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Here we go! Italy is the country with the highest number of World Heritage Sites, so this article is appropriately massive. The map is a bit busy but I think I managed to keep it readable with some organizing. The list of Romania, which is currently also nominated, is already seeing support. Feel free to fix some minor grammatical issues etc. on the run, so that this discussion does not get excessively long. Thanks! Tone 07:45, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• "Over 300,000 carvings have been created" => "Over 300,000 carvings were created"
• "Galileo Galilei who was conducting his experiments there" => "Galileo Galilei, who conducted his experiments there"
• "built between the 11th and the 13th century the noble families and upper middle-class merchants" - think the word "by" is missing
• "Fourteen of these towers have survived to present day" => "Fourteen of these towers have survived to the present day"
• "Naples, Founded in 470 BCE by Greek colonists" - founded should not have a capital F
• "during the Italian Renaissance of the 15th and 16th century" => "during the Italian Renaissance of the 15th and 16th centuries"
• "They have been constructed at least since the mid-14th century" => "They were constructed from at least the mid-14th century"
• "that mix motives from Western and Byzantine arts" => "that mix motifs from Western and Byzantine arts"
• "There are also three islands off coast" => "There are also three islands off the coast"
• "It played a major role in spreading of Christianity" => "It played a major role in the spreading of Christianity"
• "The complex includes residential and recreative buildings" => "The complex includes residential and recreational buildings"
• "originating in Roman times and preserving structures from the 11th century, was renovated in the 15th and 16th century" => "originating in Roman times and preserving structures from the 11th century, was renovated in the 15th and 16th centuries"
• "Winegrowing and processing area for Piemonte wine took place already at least in the 5th century BC" - I can't figure out this sentence. I think what it's meant to say is "Winegrowing and processing for Piemonte wine took place in this area since at least the 5th century BC"
• "The frescos are innovative in view of in their way" => "The frescos are innovative in view of their way"
• "and use new way of perspective" => "and use new ways of perspective"
• "with constructing villas and gardens on the coasts of lakes and on the islands for the wealthy owners" => "with villas and gardens constructed on the coasts of lakes and on the islands for wealthy owners"
• "reached its peak between the 6th 4th century BCE" => "reached its peak between the 6th and 4th centuries BCE"
• "Between the 6th and 11th century" => "Between the 6th and 11th centuries"
• "Sea floor is covered" => "The sea floor is covered"
• "indicating that the area was at some poin" => "indicating that the area was at some point"
• "Technical herigate from different periods" - second word is spelt incorrectly
• "In Italy, this practice has origin in pre-Roman times and continues in present day" => "In Italy, this practice has origins in pre-Roman times and continues to the present day"
• " The Lagerstätte around Verona is exceptionally rich with fosils" - last word is missing an S
• "Fosils include fish and marine mammals" - and again :-)
• "Studies of fosils have been taking place" - and again again :-)
• "The design of the theatres was changing through centuries" => "The design of the theatres changed through centuries"
• That's what I got. Looking forward to visiting two of these sites next week :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:40, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

  @ChrisTheDude Fixed all, many thanks! And enjoy the trip :) Tone 09:07, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:11, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

AK

• Disclaimer: I haven't checked references and will be claiming credit at the Wikicup.
• Made some edits that were quicker to do than list here and seemed uncontroversial.
• Could the lead map be shrunk down? At over half the page width, it is far too big.
  • It works better on a bit larger screens (I checked on some different ones). I think this is a compromise, map as small as possible but the items still not overlapping. What can I say, over 50 sites marked, and I don't want to put numbers.
• "58 inscribed properties" → "58 listed sites"
• "Albula / Bernina" → Why the gaps before and after the slash?
  • This is the official name in the source, I left it just in the table but removed from the intro.
• "theatre, or sports centre" → "theatre, and sports centre"?
• "took place in this area since at least the 5th century BCE" → Should be "has taken place" if it still occurs.
  • It was suggested to use past in the above revision.
• "extra-European exotic" → non-European exotic"?
• "monasteries, often in caves" → "monasteries, often situated in caves"
• All mentions of "x million" years needs a nbsp between the number and "million".
• The Caserta garden photo needs alt text.
• That's what I got.
  • @AryKun: Done, thanks! Btw, you forgot to sign the revision ;) --Tone 19:48, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
• Support on the basis of prose. AryKun (talk) 09:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

TRM

This is a big list, so I'll probably do it in sections. Unless I get lucky and find half an hour to hit it in one shot! The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:29, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Initial comments

• Italy has a total of 58 listed sites -> Italy has 58 listed sites
• Sites just -> Sites, just
• A total of 25 -> Twenty-five
• no comma after specifically (or remove and use a colon)
• whereas -> and
• has been developing uninterruptedly -> has developed uninterrupted

Reywas92^Talk 02:13, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Fixed these above, I assume more is coming :) Tone 16:11, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Dudley

• "Twenty-five Italian sites were added during the 1990s, with 10 sites added at the 21st session held in Naples in 1997." For avoidance of doubt, I would say "including 10 sites"
• "Italy has served as a member of the World Heritage Committee four times, specifically 1978–1985 (8 years), 1987–1993 (7 years), 1993–1999 (7 years), and 1999–2001 (3 years)." "specifically" is superfluous and you can add 2021-2025.
• Rock Drawings in Valcamonica. You use two sources which give conflicting numbers and dates e.g. 140,000 carvings according to UNESCO and over 300,000 in the pdf, which is the figure you use. That may be because the pdf paper covers a wider area than the world heritage site and I think it would be better to stick to the citation.
• medieval should not be capitalized. You sometimes do and sometimes not.
• "cave dwellings that have been inhabited since the Paleolithic". since the Paleolithic implies continuous occupation. You should say first occupied as in the source.
• "Crespi d'Adda is a well preserved and partially in use company town". This is clumsy. Maybe "Crespi d'Adda is a well preserved company town with some buildings which are still in use"
• " It was designed by the architect Luigi Vanvitelli and inspired by palaces in Versailles and Madrid. Inspired by the ideas of the Enlightenment," Repetition of "inspired"
• Doric should be capitalized.
• "The villa in Piazza Armerina is one of the most luxurious Roman villas built in the early 4th century, and is a representative example of the economy and social structure of its period. It is richly decorated with mosaics of exceptional quality." This is a bit modest as a description. It is the best villa I have ever seen and the citation says it has the best Roman mosaics anywherer.
• "Aquileia was one of the wealthiest cities of the Early Roman Empire." I would not capitalize "early".
• "It played a major role in the spreading of Christianity in the early Middle Ages" This over-generalises. The source says to a large area of central Europe.
• "It features paintings by Cimabue, Pietro Lorenzetti, Simone Martini, and Giotto, and has been used as a reference point for Italian and Western art." I would delete "used as".
• More to follow. Dudley Miles (talk) 12:54, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

  Fixed, thanks! Tone 09:44, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

• "This site comprises two urban developments in Genova". You are inconsistent how you spell Genoa.
• "Monte San Giorgio, overlooking Lake Lugano, is regarded as the best fossil record of marine life from the Triassic Period (245–230 million years ago). In that period, the area was a tropical lagoon, flourishing with reptiles, fish, bivalves, ammonites, echinoderms, and crustaceans. Fossils of terrestrial animals are also preserved, as the lagoon was near the land." The entry copies clumsy wording in the source. I would change "is regarded as the best fossil record" to "preserves the best fossil record". Also "as the lagoon was near the land" is nonsense. All lagoons are near land by definition. I would delete.
• "Longobards in Italy. Places of the power (568-774 A.D.)" The cathedral pictured is much newer than 774 AD if I have traced it correctly, so is presumably not covered by the designation.
• "supports a particular ecosystem with endemic flora and fauna" "particular" tells us nothing - I would delete.
• "Primeval Beech Forests of the Carpathians are used to study the spread of the beech tree (Fagus sylvatica) in the Northern Hemisphere across a variety of environments and the environment in the forest." This is too vague. Maybe "The primeval beech forests provide an essential resource for understanding the history and evolution of the beech tree (Fagus sylvatica) over the last million years."
• "The frescos are innovative in view of their way of depicting the allegorical narrative and use new ways of perspective." This is a bit clumsy. Maybe "The frescos are innovative in their way of depicting allegorical narrative and use new techniques of perspective."
• More to follow. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:25, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

  Done, thanks! Indeed, looking at the UNESCO source and trying to tell it differently sometimes leads to clumsy wordings. I appreciate you checking. Tone 11:45, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

• "The town was sacked by the Syracuse in 398 BCE". The people are called Syracusans. Maybe "The town was sacked by Syracusans (or the Syracusans) in 398 BCE"
• "Bradyseism is the gradual uplift or descent of part of the Earth's surface caused by volcanic activity." This is not quite right. How about "Bradyseism is the gradual uplift or descent of land caused by the filling or emptying of underground magma chambers."
• "hermitages developed into monastic organizations". Maybe "hermitages developed into monasteries".
• "a man from the Pleistocene period, the Altamura Man". This does not tell us much. See [19] for very interesting information.
• More to follow. Dudley Miles (talk) 22:36, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

  Fixed, thanks again! Tone 11:51, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

• "inhabited in the Paleolithic time". This is vague. Maybe "periodically inhabited in the [[Middle Paleolithic|Middle]] and [[Upper Paleolithic]] periods".
• "were influential across Italy and Europe". It sounds odd to say Italy and Europe. I would delete "Italy and"
• "n example of a recent (not-eroded) mountain range transversal to the ocean basin" I would replace "a recent (not-eroded)" with "an uneroded". Also, I do not understand what is meant by "transversal" here.
• Evaporite karst and caves of Emilia Romagna Region. You might find a suitable image at [20].
• "Pilgrimages were an important way of cultural exchange". I would prefer "feature" to "way".
• "fossils from the Eocene epoch. Between 56 and 34 million years ago, the area was part of the Tethys Ocean." This is wrong. 56-34 mya is the Eocene, not when the area was in the Tethys. Dudley Miles (talk) 13:05, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

  Done! I rewrote some of the above to make more sense. Many thanks for the review! Tone 15:44, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Looks fine now. Dudley Miles (talk) 18:02, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Source review passed, promoting. --PresN 19:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of songs written by Marius Moga

Nominator(s): Sebbirrrr (talk) 18:29, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

After bringing a similar list to FL, List of songs written by Alexandru Cotoi, I am nominating this list as well. I've taken note of all the comments from it although, this list is lengthier. Sebbirrrr (talk) 18:29, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Pamzeis

Hopefully not gonna screw this up

• "Moga contributed to all tracks on the album, with its lead single, "Ți-am promis", peaking at number five on the Romanian Top 100." — the lack of relation or relatedness or whatever it is between the first (from Moga to album) and second (from with to 100) parts of this... portion make it kinda confusing. I feel like a hypocrite because the way I phrased my comment seems really hard to understand.
  • Removed the bit about the peak position and reworded the sentence. Sebbirrrr (talk) 14:36, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
• "released three albums, Reverse, Mind Fields and N3XT, the latter including" — the commas are sorta ambiguous as its possible that "Reverse, Mind Fields and N3XT" could either be the three albums or something else being listed alongside the albums
  • Fixed the commas per MOS:SERIAL, I hope it makes sense now. Sebbirrrr (talk) 14:36, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
• Optional but septuple seems like a rather uncommon word; perhaps replace it with seven-time?
  • Replaced septuple with seven-time. Sebbirrrr (talk) 14:36, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
• "Some of the commercially successful songs which reached the summit on the Romanian music charts that were co-written by him" — kinda clunky and awkward...
  • Rewrote that entire part. Sebbirrrr (talk) 14:36, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
• "He had several attempts at" — ...were these successful or unsucccessful?
  • Fixed. Sebbirrrr (talk) 14:36, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Pamzeis (talk) 11:00, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

@Pamzeis: thanks for reviewing the lead, I've addressed all your comments. Sebbirrrr (talk) 14:36, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support. One last comment: for any names of albums or things that would normally be italicised, they should be italicised in citations as well per MOS:CONFORMTITLE. Pamzeis (talk) 15:29, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks, fixed the citations as well. Sebbirrrr (talk) 17:33, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• "The album, [...] to which Moga contributed entirely" - what does this mean?
  • He wrote every song on it. Sebbirrrr (talk) 17:48, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Then write "for which he wrote every song". What is there at the moment does not make sense in English -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:14, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

      Fixed. Sebbirrrr (talk) 19:34, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

• "was released in January 2002 and receive a platinum certification later that year by the" => "was released in January 2002 and received a platinum certification later that year from the"
  • Fixed. Sebbirrrr (talk) 17:48, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
• "their third album was certified platinum and four times platinum in Russia" - both platinum and four-times platinum?
  • Rewrote the entire sentence, hopefully it makes sense now. Sebbirrrr (talk) 17:48, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
• "which reached number one the Airplay 100 chart" => "which reached number one on the Airplay 100 chart"
  • Fixed. Sebbirrrr (talk) 17:48, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
• Notes b and d should not have full stops as they are not complete sentences -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:51, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Fixed. Sebbirrrr (talk) 17:48, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

@ChrisTheDude: thanks for reviewing, I've addressed your comments. Sebbirrrr (talk) 17:48, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:19, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments from TRM

• Is he really a singer-songwriter?
  • I'm confused by this as I said "singer, songwriter", I didn't hyphenate the two. Sebbirrrr (talk) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
• "other singers as well.[" "as well" not really needed.
  • Removed. Sebbirrrr (talk) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
• "He began earning money by..." this sentence goes on a bit, maybe split.
  • Split. Sebbirrrr (talk) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
• "when Akcent's" who or what is that?
  • Fixed. Sebbirrrr (talk) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
• "platinum certification" link appropriate "certification" article.
  • Linked to Music recording certification. Sebbirrrr (talk) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
• "Their first and third albums were ..." this is interesting but the article is about the songs, not the albums.
  • Removed. Sebbirrrr (talk) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
• "topped the Airplay 100" is there an article for Airplay 100?
  • There is Romanian record charts which contains information about all Romanian music charts. Sebbirrrr (talk) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
• Why does 2Night sort before 0721?
  • Fixed. Sebbirrrr (talk) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
• Not sure on the comprehensiveness of sourcing for, say, the "unknown" dates, e.g. I clicked on ref 43 for "Adderall" and saw no mention of "Ross Golan" but there was "Golan Ross Jacob", why is the name being tinkered with?
  • Repertoires list the surname first and then the first name (and then middle name if any). I believe that adding the middle names will make the list look clunky and that would be too much detail (eg: Samantha Castel from ref 58 has 4 first names). Sebbirrrr (talk) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
• Plenty of spaced hyphens in the ref titles, should be en-dashes.
  • I hope I replaced all. Sebbirrrr (talk) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

That's it for me for now. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:56, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: Thanks for reviewing, I've addressed your comments. Sebbirrrr (talk) 23:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Z1720

• No concerns with the lede
• Image check: pass
• Source check: Version reviewed
  • Lots of the citations have an id parameter, but the identifier is not included so I do not know what organisation this is for. Take a look at Template:Cite_AV_media_notes#Identifiers to determine how to add identifiers to the citations.

Those are my thoughts. Let me know when the identifiers above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 14:45, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: Thanks for reviewing. All the codes were meant to be found via Universal Product Code. Let me know if it looks okay. Sebbirrrr (talk) 18:20, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Support. My concerns were addressed and I have no further comments. Z1720 (talk) 18:44, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Promoting. --PresN 19:21, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of Music Bank Chart winners (2021)

Nominator(s): EN-Jungwon (talk), Ladidadida123 (talk) and Ïvana (talk) 13:03, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

This list contains the winners of Music Bank in 2021. This is my second FLC nomination. I had previously nominated the 2020 list which is now a featured list. I have expanded the article in the past few days and believe that the article now meets the FL criteria. I added Ladidadida123 and Ïvana as nominators since they have significantly contributed to this article. -- EN-Jungwon 13:03, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:09, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

*"a methodology that had been used since November 2020" => "a methodology that has been used since November 2020" Done. "Oh My Girl member Arin and Tomorrow X Together member Choi Soo-bin had hosted the show since July 2020 and continued to do so until October 1, 2021" Done. "The year began with "Dynamite" by BTS at number one; it had been in the top spot on the last chart of 2020" Done. "The single along with "Celebrity" by IU won" => "The single, along with "Celebrity" by IU, won" Done. "BTS had 3 number one singles" => "BTS had three number one singles" Done. "The three songs spent a total of 8 weeks" => "The three songs spent a total of eight weeks" Done. "Brave Girls won their first Music Bank award for Rollin'" - song title should be in quote marks Done. "over four years after it's release" => "over four years after its release" Done. "Blackpink member Rosé received first number one trophy" => "Blackpink member Rosé received her first number one trophy" Done. "Lisa was one of a number of soloist who achieved their first career music show win in 2021" => "Lisa was one of a number of soloists who achieved their first career music show wins in 2021" Done. "Girl group Aespa won their first Music Bank trophy with "Savage" on the October 15 broadcast." - unsourced Removed. "Up10tion's Kim Wooseok (upper left), Astro (upper right), The Boyz (lower left), and Stray Kids (lower right) won their first broadcast channel music show awards with their Music Bank wins for "Sugar", "After Midnight", "Thrill Ride", and "Thunderous" respectively." - all unsourced Removed Wooseok. Done for others "TXT (top), Enhypen (middle), and Ive (bottom) received their first broadcast music show wins on Music Bank for "0X1=Lovesong (I Know I Love You)" "Drunk-Dazed", and "Eleven", respectively." - unsourced Done. Think that's all from me :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:05, 12 April 2022 (UTC) @ChrisTheDude thank you for your comments. I have finished making the changes you requested. Thank you. -- EN-Jungwon 12:27, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:09, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Comments by RunningTiger123

Resolved comments from RunningTiger123 (talk) 20:37, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

* "Music Bank Chart" should not be bolded in lead per MOS:TITLEABSENTBOLD Done. Link Music Bank (TV series) at the end of the first sentence Done. "Music Bank" should be consistently italicized Done. "Dynamite" and "Permission to Dance" should not be linked twice in lead Done. Link YouTube at first occurrence in lead Done. Use Template:-" for closing quotation mark on "Rollin'" Done. "number one in August and TVXQ member U-Know Yunho who gained his first number one" → "number one in August, and TVXQ member U-Know Yunho, who gained his first number one" Done. "won her first broadcast music show" → "won her first broadcast music show award" Done. "'Lalisa.'" → "'Lalisa'." Done. "'0X1=Lovesong (I Know I Love You)' 'Drunk-Dazed'" → "'0X1=Lovesong (I Know I Love You)', 'Drunk-Dazed'" Done. NCT U should be linked at all occurrences in table Removed links as they don't have their own article. "The Boyz" should sort by "Boyz", not "The" Done. Highest score needs to be identified by a symbol in addition to a color for accessibility Done. "due to a staff" → "due to a staff member" Done. — RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:38, 11 June 2022 (UTC) @RunningTiger123 thank you very much for the suggestions. All of these are done now. -- EN-Jungwon 05:48, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Support – RunningTiger123 (talk) 20:37, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Z1720

• "The chart includes digital performance on domestic online music services" I think performance should be performances
  • Done.
• "and viewers' choice (10%)," How is this determined? That should be added to the article
  • Done.
• The two notes should be cited

  @Z1720 is it a problem if I add citations for the first note into the reference column in the table since that note is used in multiple rows. -- EN-Jungwon 17:45, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

• It's fine for me, but it might get challenged at a later date. Z1720 (talk) 19:38, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

• Image check: licencing is fine. All the images are YouTube screenshots and are licenced under there CC fair use.
• Don't use fixed px size, use |upright instead
  • Done.
  • Source check: pass. Formatting seems fine.
• Spot check version checked: [23]. I don't read Korean so I checked the English sources.
  • Ref 6: I could not verify most of the information at the end of the second paragraph of the lede. Is there a citation missing?
    • Done.
  • No concerns with Ref 9

Please ping me when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 12:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Support. My concerns have been addressed. Z1720 (talk) 15:45, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

• Source review – I'm not too familiar with either Korean news sites or K-pop sites, but I didn't see anything alarming in terms of source reliability. One issue with reference formatting should be addressed: ref 7 (from NME) has some weirdness where the latter part of the citation is being italicized. It looks like you have an extra quotation mark at the end of the title; I'd suggest removing that and seeing if it helps. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:17, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

  @Giants2008 fixed the citation. You can see WP:KO/RS for a list of reliable Korean sources. -- EN-Jungwon 12:05, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

  With that issue resolved and a spot-check having been done earlier, I'd say the source review has been passed. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:26, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Promoting. --PresN 19:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

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Frances McDormand on screen and stage

Nominator(s): Cowlibob (talk) 17:30, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Frances McDormand is one of the greatest actors of her generation. Here's a list of her roles, as always I am open to constructive criticism on how to improve it. Cowlibob (talk) 17:30, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments from Maile66

• Scope Columns - The scope="col" is picked up by screen readers, and should be the film titles, not the years.
• Image - This is one of only two images of McDormand on Commons, where it's credited to McDormand as the source, but uploaded on Flicker by someone else. Cropped and up close in the article, it's somewhat blurred and looks like it might be a screen shot from someone's device. If she is otherwise FL worthy, seems there ought to be clearer and better images out there.

— Maile (talk) 19:31, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Maile66: I've fixed the scoping. As you've said there are only two images of McDormand that are free to use on Commons. I had a look on Flickr and Google and it was the same scenario (with the caveat that I'm not well-versed at searching for CC images). I wanted to have a different image to the main article (the image there is unfortunately the clearer of the two). Cowlibob (talk) 08:52, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support — Maile (talk) 01:11, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments from ChrisTheDude

Comments

• "her performance as an overprotective mother in Cameron Crowe-directed comedy-drama" => "her performance as an overprotective mother in the Cameron Crowe-directed comedy-drama"
• "She starred in drama North Country and science fiction action film Æon Flux with Charlize Theron" - she starred with Theron in both?
• The relatively obscure word "garnered" is used quite a lot. Maybe change the usage at the start of the last paragraph to simply "McDormand won...."
• "playing a mother striving for justice for the unsolved murder of her daughter in Martin McDonagh-directed crime drama" => "playing a mother striving for justice for the unsolved murder of her daughter in the Martin McDonagh-directed crime drama"
• That's all I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:01, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@ChrisTheDude: I've fixed the above. Cowlibob (talk) 08:52, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:55, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments from TRM

• " Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress " is overlinked in the lead.
• Would it be ok to describe Hill Street Blues as a "police procedural drama"?
• Ref 3, it should be the title of the article linked, not the Guardian itself.
• "She starred with Charlize..." "McDormand starred with..."
• "n Chloe Zhao's" diacritic.
• Why is her second theatre performance noted in the lead, and not the first one?
• Also interested as to why her first TV performance isn't noted in the lead.
• Show end dates aren't shown in ref 61, e.g. An Oak Tree (interestingly shown as an oak tree) has a start date (4 Nov 2006) but no end date shown. And it's also tagged with REPLACEMENT, is that notable?
• Be consistent with linking of source names.

The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:27, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: Thanks for your comments. I have fixed most of above. Linked refs at first occurrence. An Oak Tree is in lower caps stylistically per [[25]] and a different actor plays Father each performance. I couldn't find an exact date when McDormand appeared but did find a ref that suggested that it was in late November 2006 [[26]]. I didn't mention her first theatre performance as she was just an understudy. Cowlibob (talk) 17:45, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Z1720

• "who made her film debut in the Coen brothers' neo-noir Blood Simple (1984).[1] She also made her Broadway debut in the revival Awake and Sing! in the same year." -> "who made her film debut in the Coen brothers' neo-noir Blood Simple in 1948 and Broadway debut in the revival Awake and Sing! the same year." I think this trims the lede a little bit and equalises the film and Broadway roles.
• "Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress for her performance as an overprotective mother in the Cameron Crowe-directed comedy-drama Almost Famous (2000)." This sentence is a little long, so I suggest cutting "the Cameron Crowe-directed comedy-drama". Readers can get more information by clicking on the wikilink if they want.
• "McDormand won her second Best Actress Oscar as well as the BAFTA Award for Best Actress in a Leading Role, and Screen Actors Guild Award for Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Leading Role for playing a mother striving for justice for the unsolved murder of her daughter in the Martin McDonagh-directed crime drama Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri (2017)." I think this sentence should be trimmed and slightly rearranged. suggestion: "McDormand won the BAFTA Award for Best Actress in a Leading Role, the Screen Actors Guild Award for Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Leading Role, and her second Best Actress Oscar for Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri (2017) in her role as a mother seeking justice in her daughter's murder."
• Why is "an oak tree" Not capitalised?

• Image check: pass
• Source check: Version reviewed - pass
• Spot check: refs 1 passed
• Ref 2: "She also made her Broadway debut in the revival Awake and Sing! in the same year." This is not verified in the source. Perhaps place ref 63 here.
• Ref 2: "In 1985, she made her television debut in the crime drama series Hunter" Ref does not verify that this is McDormand's TV debut.

• Ref 8: "In the same year, she played a psychiatrist in legal thriller Primal Fear. In 1997," Not verified in the source. Perhaps ref 27 can also be placed here.
• Ref 10: "and science fiction action film Æon Flux in 2005." The ref doesn't verify this information. Perhaps place ref 38 here?

Those are my thoughts. Please ping me when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 14:56, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: Thank you for your review. I have fixed the above.Cowlibob (talk) 09:07, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

One more: Version reviewed, Ref 10: Doesn't verify that McDormand played a mechanic. Z1720 (talk) 14:38, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: Added ref.Cowlibob (talk) 16:49, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Support my concerns have been addressed. Z1720 (talk) 16:51, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Birdienest81

• Per MOS:CONFORMTITLE, titles of TV series and movies should be italicized even in citations.

--Birdienest81talk 09:45, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@Birdienest81: Done. Cowlibob (talk) 18:48, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

• Support: Good job

--Birdienest81talk 06:30, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Promoting. --PresN 19:21, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of songs recorded by Kyla

Nominator(s): Pseud 14 (talk) 16:54, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Having worked on list articles about actors for quite a while, here I am going back to where my FL journey began, working on list of songs by a music artist. Kyla is a Filipino R&B singer who first shot to fame in the early 2000s and remains to be the only artist from the Philippines to have received an MTV Video Music Award. This list includes songs she has recorded and released that span her two-decade career. Happy to address your comments and thanks to all who take the time to review the list. Pseud 14 (talk) 16:54, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• "Kyla's succeeding records" - I think "Kyla's next two records" would read more naturally

Done

• "were cover albums. Both of which" => "were cover albums, both of which"

Done

• "In 2010, she released her eight studio album" => "In 2010, she released her eighth studio album"

Silly me, I've corrected this

• There's a Harv error in the table of contents for some reason

I don't think I'm seeing it, as I don't use Harvard citation style or notes. Is it from a software you use to flag harv errors?

OK I figured it out. For some reason you have [[#CITEREF2003|B]] in the TOC. Don't think the bit before the pipe should look like that...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:34, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@ChrisTheDude: ah now I see it, must've pasted something by mistake. All fixed now. Thanks for checking. Pseud 14 (talk) 18:50, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

• "Kyla is featured in rapper Young JV's single" => "Kyla is featured on rapper Young JV's single"

Done

• That's what I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:50, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your review ChrisTheDude, I have addressed the above and have provided a comment on one item to clarify. Thanks --Pseud 14 (talk) 18:13, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:24, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Pamzeis

Not gonna screw this up

• "her debut studio album Way to Your Heart." — comma after album; also, when was this released?

Avoided repeating the year 2000, so I added context to help clarify.

• "third studio album I Will Be There was" — commas around I Will Be There

Done

• "The title track was written by Ogie Alcasid and also featured the song "Flexin"" — the title track featured another song in it? It sounds like a peculiar thing...

Reworded and split into two sentences

• "her fifth studio album Beautiful" — comma after album

Done

• "worked with some new writers" — omit some as unnecessary and vague

Done

• "album Private Affair. The" — comma after album

Done

• "A remake of the Bee Gees' "How Deep Is Your Love" was the second single." — I find the wording rather awkward...

Reworded

• Ref abbreviation needs to be explained in table

Added

Hope this helps :) Pamzeis (talk) 09:40, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your review Pamzeis! I have addressed the above. Let me know if I missed anything. Thanks! --Pseud 14 (talk) 13:39, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Pamzeis (talk) 05:36, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Support from NØ

The list seems to meet the FL criteria and the detailed notes that are included here clarify any possible doubts in my opinion. I support it for promotion and just have these comments:

• The lead addresses the song as "I'm In To You" and the table says "I'm Into You". I imagine the table is correct here.

Thanks for catching this. The title on the table is correct. I have updated the lead.

• "The album also featured the song "Flexin", which was a collaboration" - Not sure "which was" is necessary.

Revised

• "Kyla's next two records—Heartfelt (2007) and Heart 2 Heart (2008)—were cover albums" - I'm always iffy about "records" as a descriptor, maybe "releases" instead?

Changed

• The abbreviation "PARI" does not need to be included as it is not used again.

Removed abbreviation

• Maybe include the release year for "How Deep Is Your Love" in a bracket

I'm assuming the release year for the remake, which has been added now.

• "One of its tracks, "My Heart", was written by Brian McKnight for Kyla's wedding to basketball player Rich Alvarez in 2011, and was later re-recorded as a duet." - A duet with McKnight? This could be made more clear.--NØ 10:10, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Added

Thank you very much for your support and additional review MaranoFan. I have addressed the points listed above. Let me know if there's anything I may have missed. --Pseud 14 (talk) 13:54, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

• Source review – The reliability and formatting of the sources look okay, and no dead links were detected by the link-checker tool. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
• Image review – All photos used in the article have appropriate free licenses, as well as alt text. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:25, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of Los Angeles Chargers first-round draft picks

Nominator(s): Harper J. Cole (talk) 20:43, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because... I've gone through and hopefully added sufficient citations for the list, as well as notes on trades and basic stats.--Harper J. Cole (talk) 20:43, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments by RunningTiger123

• In general, the lead needs citations unless it is directly supported by the list itself
• "the NFL Annual Player Selection Meeting" – remove quotes around phrase per MOS:BADEMPHASIS
• Current players are only represented by a color; they need a corresponding symbol to meet accessibility requirements
• Images need alt text
• Notes column doesn't need to use small text

Overall, looks pretty good to me! RunningTiger123 (talk) 00:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Looks like you've made the necessary changes, so happy to support. RunningTiger123 (talk) 22:16, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• As mentioned above, vast chunks of the lead are unsourced
• I think you need to state specifically that they are an American football team. I know the first sentence says "The Los Angeles Chargers are a National Football League (NFL) franchise", but that is not completely clear given how many other sports are known as "football" to different people (and there is even a league called the NFL in a different sport entirely)
• "The AFL were formed" => "The AFL was formed"
• "meaning that they had to compete directly with an NFL club" - with one specific NFL club?
• "overall, the Chargers were unable to sign their 1st-round selection" - you use a digit here but the title writes it as a word?
• "they traded the #1 pick to Atlanta before the draft for three draft picks and one player; the Falcons selected Michael Vick" - write the team name in full so that people know that Atlanta and the Falcons are one and the same
• "Signed for the NFL's Pittsburgh Steelers." - this and similar notes are not complete sentences so should not have a full stop
• "Pick received in trade with Broncos" - write team name in full and link it (with all similar notes)
• That's what I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:57, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

ChrisTheDude RunningTiger123 Thanks both, I've hopefully covered these points now. Harper J. Cole (talk) 00:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

"Pick received in trade with Washington" - appreciate that the nickname used by the team at that point in time might be a bit of a touchy subject these days, but it should still be used here, to be consistent with all the other notes -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:13, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

ChrisTheDude Fair enough; I've made the switch. Also, the pictures were giving me trouble, as they were showing up in one long vertical line above the table on non-widescreen monitors. I've cut it down to just Herbert and the three Hall of Famers. Harper J. Cole (talk) 22:11, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:32, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

• Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. | align="center" | [[1960 American Football League Draft|1960]] becomes !scope=row align="center" | [[1960 American Football League Draft|1960]]. If the cell spans multiple rows, then use !scope=rowgroup instead.
• Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 01:50, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Now added for all main three tables. I wasn't sure whether the Table Key needed a header row or not.--Harper J. Cole (talk) 18:14, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments from TRM

• Not sure you need to link major geographical locations like Los Angeles.
• If you do, don't overlink, San Diego is linked twice in the lead.
• Our article on the draft says it's officially called "Player Selection Meeting" without "Annual" being part of the official name.
• "an NFL club " can't we be specific?
• "of the #1 overall" etc, per MOS:HASH don't use that symbol to mean "number".
• You've got Pro Bowls in the table but zero mention of appearances in these in the lead.
• Position needs a key as well.
• "draft Hall of Fame tight end Kellen Winslow" I assume he was HoF when he was drafted, re-word.
• "drafted #5 overall" hash thing again.
• "selected #5 overall" ditto.
• Where are all the footnotes referenced?
• There's a mixture of "access-date" formats, make it consistent.
• Several refs missing work/website/publisher e.g. 70, 113, 153 etc etc etc.

That's enough. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:37, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I've gone through these now. With regard to the footnotes, their references are in the same row of the table. I wasn't entirely sure whether to put them inside the notes themselves, but felt keeping all the references in one column was more straightforward. Harper J. Cole (talk) 13:40, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments from Z1720

• I read through the lede and made some minor edits. I also checked the lede to see if the unsourced information was sourced in the body, and I have no concerns.
• Image check: pass, no concerns.
• The footnotes might need citations to verify this information, although perhaps the information is verified by the ref used in the chart? I know in FAs the notes usually need to be cited even if they are using the citation in the article's body.
• Why are Pro-Football-References and About.com listed in a general reference section? PFR is used as a reference, and About.com's reliability is questionable. I suggest removing this section.
• If the general references section is kept: per MOS:NOTES, usually the full references (what the article has listed under "General") is placed after short citations. I suggest swapping these sections.
• Source check: Version reviewed
  • Ref 4: Sports Illustrated should be wikilinked.
  • Ref 5: I think nfl.com can be wikilinked to the National Football League
  • Ref 8: Needs an access date and a source date
  • Ref 12: Wikilink to Pro-Football-Reference.com
  • Ref 154: Should say Los Angeles Times, not latimes.com (for consistency)
• Spot check: Refs 2, 7, 18, 63, 64,
  • Ref 1: Does not verify that the first season was in 1960, only that the name was chosen in 1959.
  • Ref 5: Does not verify that the formal name of the draft is the NFL Player Selection Meeting

Those are my thoughts. Please ping when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 14:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Z1270, I've gone through these now. The footnote information is all included in the chart, yes. I can add these if you think it's best, but felt that would be duplicating work. I've eliminated the General References section, which was there when I started on the article but doesn't seem to be doing much. The reference changes should all be made now. Harper J. Cole (talk) 00:43, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Support My concerns have been addressed. For the notes, I think it's OK the way it is. If someone has concerns, the references can be easily added from the article. I think Ref 6 needs a wikilink to CBS Sports, but this is minor and can be easily fixed. Z1720 (talk) 00:48, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Promoting. --PresN 14:25, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

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GLAAD Media Award for Outstanding Video Game

Nominator(s): PanagiotisZois (talk) 10:29, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Something for the gaymers now that Pride Month is right around the corner. For anyone unfamiliar, the GLAAD Media Awards are an award ceremony that recognizes various forms of media for their excellent representation of the LGBT community. There are 4 core criteria, but each category is specialized with further criteria being considered. As indicated by the title, this award focuses on video games. It is one of the most recent categories introduced by GLAAD, having being given only during the last 4 ceremonies.

Much of the work done on this article was based on the comments I received during earlier nominations. Having said that, this page is quite different in some areas, having a "Background" section that the others lack, as well as a "Criticism" section which only one other GLAAD Media Award page has; one that was added after the FLC. And in case anyone is curious about me having two featured lists up for candidacy, I asked PresN about and was told that given the state of the earlier nomination, no issues exist. PanagiotisZois (talk) 10:29, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• "2021 marks the only instance" - looks a bit weird starting a sentence with what is essentially a number. Any way to reword?
  • Found a way. Hope you like it.
• "An important criterion is to what extent the LGBT-inclusive is integrated" - "LGBT-inclusive" is functioning as an adjective so doesn't really work without a noun, so suggest adding the word "content" here too
  • Done.
• "alternate media that are canononical to the game's world" - isn't the word "canonical"? You seem to have one too many "on"s in there......
  • Fixed. Jesus. :/
• "Since 2021, only video games from major developers and publishers are eligible, although a game from non-major studios and publishers can still be nominated" - then surely a non-major game is still eligible, contradicting the first part?
  • @ChrisTheDude: To be completely honest I'm not exactly sure what they fully mean by it either. Maybe that while only games from mainstream companies are eligible for candidacy, GLAAD itself does also keep an eye out for other games, and if an indie one manages to receive enough attention akin to a Triple-A game then it can be deemed as "worthy" to be nominated. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:45, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Maybe say "only video games from major developers and publishers are normally eligible" or "only video games from major developers and publishers are eligible as standard" or similar......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:19, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
      • @ChrisTheDude: Made a few alterations to the sentence. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 22:27, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
• "for its emphasison mainstream Triple-A video games" - missing gap between two words in there
  • Wonder which ones... Done.
• "with indie games being better at handling LGBT theme" => "with indie games being better at handling LGBT themes"
  • Done.
• "In September 2018 GLAAD announced that it introduce a category" => something like "In September 2018 GLAAD announced that it would introduce a category"
  • Reworded it.
• "Owen S. Good lamented that given the awards eligibility criteria, indie games inclusive" => "Owen S. Good lamented that, given the awards' eligibility criteria, indie games inclusive"
  • Done.
• "couldn't be nominated" => "could not be nominated"
  • Done.
• "pointing out that all optional love interests [...] doesn't offer" - doesn't work grammatically, think the second verb should have a different subject that's been omitted
  • You're right. Rereading the sentence a few words were clearly missing. I also made a few additonal changes to ensure the word game isn't repeated twice in close proximity to one another, and omitted the contraction.
• "Imogen Beckhelling also of Rock Paper Shotgun, would go on" => "Imogen Beckhelling, also of Rock Paper Shotgun, would go on"
  • Done.
• "arguing that it's still" => "arguing that it was still"
  • Done.
• "she recognized that progress isn't a linear process" => "she recognized that progress is not a linear process"
  • Done.
• That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:27, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:55, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Pamzeis

Hope I won't screw this up

• "in New York City, Los Angeles, and San Francisco between" — commas → semi-colons, as commas may imply NYC is in LA
  • Done.
• "GLAAD monitors mainstream media to identify which video games will be nominated, while also issuing a Call for Entries that encourages media outlets to submit games for consideration. Video games created by and for an LGBT audience must be submitted in order to be considered for nomination, as GLAAD does not monitor such works for defamation." — I'm just really confused; if games need to be submitted to be considered then what is the point of monitoring the media?
  • @Pamzeis: Given that GLAAD believes in representation being capable of affecting positive changes to society, and one of the core four criteria being "significant 'Impact' on mainstream culture", it's clear that the organization favours mainstream works as those reach the largest possible audience. Ergo, also affecting the most amount of people with their positive representation. GLAAD monitors mainstream developers and publishers to see which games they publish, if any of them contain LGBT characters / themses, and then decide if they're put up for candidacy or not. Indie developers and studios are not monitored by them, which is why those have to be submitted. I'm guessing it's very likely for a mainstream game that GLAAD was already on the look-out for was also submitted by the developers/publishers. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 23:49, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
• "games being better at handling LGBT themes and more deserving of recognition" — WP:VOICE
• "regard to LGBT representation in mainstream games, in relation to mainstream games being nominated or winning, has been described as something" — bit clunky
• "given to 5 video games" → given to five video games (MOS:SPELL09)
  • Done.
• "In January 2019, following the announcement of the inaugural Outstanding Video Game nominees, GLAAD released a statement regarding the inclusion of Assassin's Creed Odyssey. The game's Legacy of the First Blade downloadable content attracted controversy for featuring a storyline placing the player character Alexios or Kassandra in an unavoidable heterosexual relationship that results in an offspring." — what was this statement... or is the second sentence the statement? Pretty unclear to me
  • I have changed the structure a little bit. Rereading it, I can understand the confusion. I hope now it's more understandable.
• "While GLAAD's Blair Durkee, Associate Director of Gaming, also criticized the storyline for "send[ing] the harmful message that sexual orientation can be changed at will and that LGBTQ people can choose to conform to heteronormative expectations in spite of their identities",[10] she defended the nomination of Assassin's Creed Odyssey, acknowledging that progress can be complicated and that to "encourage developers and publishers to continue to make these types of bold moves in the future, we must allow for growth, acknowledge that missteps do occur, and give proper credit where credit is due"." — very long one-sentence paragraph...
  • Changed.
• "given the awards eligibility" → given the award's eligibility
  • Done.
• "fact, 'outstanding'"" → fact, 'outstanding{{' "}}
  • Done.
• "in relation to mainstream games being nominated or winning, has been described as something that should be acknowledged and celebrated" — this is really explicitly mentioned in only one source in the Criticism section...

Hope this helps :) Pamzeis (talk) 07:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

@Pamzeis: Thank you for the comments. Things are coming up, so I might be a little slow in responding. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 23:49, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Pamzeis (talk) 01:43, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments from TRM

I"m a little concerned that this seems better suited to a GAN than FLC as there have only been four winners of this award and we normally work on an unwritten rule of around ten. I'm not going to oppose based on that, but thought I should bring it up to remain consistent and fair to other nominations which have failed for the same reason. Other comments:

• Lead is too long, five paras is way too much per MOS:LEAD.
  • @The Rambling Man: Having looked at a few other articles that are featured articles / lists, I wouldn't say the leade is that long. If the issue is paragraphs, I could combine the first and second ones. Alternatively, if the issue of size remains, I can remove the information about the criticism the award has received and unite the last sentence with the previous paragraph.
• There appears to be stuff in the lead which isn't expanded upon in the subsequent sections. This isn't normally a major problem for a genuine list article but here perhaps it's anomalous, e.g. "games from major developers and publishers are eligible" (what's a "major" dev btw?) is not really mentioned in the main part of the article.
• No need to split into decades, it won't become unmanageably large for a few years yet!
  • True. Changed it.
• How did Overwatch get into the 2020 awards when it was released four years prior? I guess it was for the Switch release, but that needs to be noted.
  • That's actually brought up in the lead; mostly. A video game that was released outside the eligibility period can still be nominated "if substantial new first-party content is released during the eligibility period". Specifically, if you go to GLAAD's website it states: "If released prior to January 1, 2019, the video game must contain substantial new first-party content publicly released for the game between January 1, 2019 and December 31, 2019, where the new content is the subject of consideration". In January 2019, Blizzard published an in-game short story revealing that Soldier 76 is gay.
    • @The Rambling Man: I was wondering if my explanation and everything makes sense. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 11:41, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
• Ref 3 and 4 need spaced hyphens to become spaced en-dashes.
  • @The Rambling Man: Done. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 12:14, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:42, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello @PresN:. I was wondering if you could archive these nomination. It's been near three months since this candidacy begun, and it only got three interactions, all within the first month only. The fact that The Rambling Man hasn't been answering back isn't helping move anything along either. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:17, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

I'll do you one better, and just promote this. --PresN 14:25, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

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