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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list removal nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was delisted by SchroCat 20:47, 18 August 2014 [1].
- Notified: Example user, Example WikiProject
I am nominating this for featured list removal because it needs many additional references. LADY LOTUS • TALK 18:03, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist - So much sourcing issues this page has. Shame since its an interesting list. GamerPro64 01:13, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist - Sourcing issues as well as the need for an extensive rewrite of the lead section. Cowlibob (talk) 22:56, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist per nominator. —Zia Khan 12:06, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This list has been delisted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please leave the review template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. – SchroCat (talk) 20:59, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was retained by SchroCat 14:01, 14 August 2014 [2].
- Notified: WikiProject Finland
I am nominating this for featured list removal because of the concerns raised on the list's talkpage, esp. that there is no sourcing for the information in the main body of the list. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 12:29, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- The percentages at least are sourced to Tilastokeskus / Statistikcentralen (Statistics Finland, accessed 24 March 2014): "Population according to language and the number of foreigners and land area km2 by area 1980-2013" as shown in the table. Not "no sourcing". Rmhermen (talk) 15:56, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, no sourcing for virtually every "fact" mentioned in the lead paragraphs. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:10, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delistuntil I see clear inline sourcing for the claims in the lead then it's a no-brainer for delisting. I am surprised a list with such lean referencing made it to TFL, but it was a nice attempt to do something different I guess. Other things:- "Alphabetical list" - the list is sortable by columns, not just alphabetical....
- Plenty of blank cells which always troubles me.
- "Åland" sorts odd because of the diacritic.
- What the hell is "class= hintergrundfarbe6" in the table coding? We should be using standard and accessible coding for screen readers etc. That includes row and col scopes per MOS:DTT.
- While pretty, what do the icons next to the municipality name do other than decorate the list?
- Far from ideal, needs rapid fix or rapid delisting and while we seem to have gotten away with it (bar Lugnut's observations), this kind of list should not be TFL. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:24, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- And we would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling Lugnuts! Zoinks! Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:27, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Pesky Lugnuts.... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:44, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- And we would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling Lugnuts! Zoinks! Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:27, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Have you notified the original nominator? Seattle (talk) 23:36, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- No. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:35, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd suggest doing that as a courtesy. Seattle (talk) 13:56, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Don't know who it is. You can ping them. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 14:10, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Came here from the main page. The "checklist" at the top of FLRC clearly says "Notify relevant parties blah blah blah". This step should not be optional, IMHO. It took about 10 seconds to look up the original nomination from the talk page and see that it was User:Biruitorul, a user still active on Wikipedia.
- Anyway, enough procedural rambling above. On the content, I do agree that the article needs some fixes, although this seems rather possible considering the short length. SnowFire (talk) 00:13, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Until that step is mandatory, then I refuse to notify them. Hopefully they've got the list on their watchlist if the care enough. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:12, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Don't know who it is. You can ping them. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 14:10, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd suggest doing that as a courtesy. Seattle (talk) 13:56, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- No. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:35, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - this list lay basically dormant for years until User:Neelix overhauled it with the intention of bringing it to the Main Page. Of course it would never pass FLC today, but back then, standards were looser. I (we, if anyone wants to collaborate) will see about sourcing (this looks to be a good starting point) and technical fixes. If the issues are addressed in time, good. If not, it'll be no big deal to take it back to FLC when it's ready. - Biruitorul Talk 00:28, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't know Norwegian, but the corresponding Norwegian list is also featured and it looks like that article contains more sources than the English version. If anyone knows Norwegian, those might be good sources to use. Neelix (talk) 01:24, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- The Rambling Man, many thanks for your constructive suggestions. I believe I've addressed them all, but if you or others have further concerns, do let me know. - Biruitorul Talk 16:20, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- No worries, sorry it's taken so long to get back, good work, delist struck. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been retained, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please leave the review template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. – SchroCat (talk) 14:10, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.