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- Nominator(s): ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 15:25, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is list of characters from the Star Wars show The Book of Boba Fett. I created and worked on this list a lot because I really liked the show and know a lot about Star Wars as it is my favorite film franchise. I’m nominating it as a featured list because it looks like it passes the criteria, but just know there might be some grammar problems. I have looked over the sections of this list way to much now to the point where my brain just corrects the grammar mistakes automatically without me seeing it. I formatted and based this list off List of The Mandalorian characters, which was raised to FL by Hunter Kahn who based the list off List of Alien (film series) characters, which was raised to FL by DarthBotto so kudos to them. I have the same goal as Hunter Kahn, which is to have this as the anchor of a good topic on this subject.― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 15:25, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Source review – pass
[edit]Since I'm not in the mood to sift through a 6000+-word article, I'm gonna do the source review. Well, 200+ sources is still a lot I guess...
Formatting (the really nitpicky stage)
- ref 50, 52, 74, 89, 90, 100, 108, 120, 144, 148, 174, 179, 203, 206, 209, 232, 239, 254, 268, 271, 281, 291, 292: Fix MOS:ALLCAPS issues
- Also per MOS:ALLCAPS, be consistent with capitalisation (either sentence-case or title-case following MOS:5LETTER)
- Per MOS:CONFORMTITLE, titles of works like The Book of Boba Fett or The Mandalorian should be italicised in citations
- I Hope hope hope done
- You should be consistent with linking works, i.e. only link works at their first instance OR link them every time OR not at all
- pretty sure done
- ref 6, 27 & 42: Cnet.com → CNET
- Done
- ref 40: Cinemablend → CinemaBlend
- Done
- ref 44: Indian Express → The Indian Express
- Done
- ref 55 & 101: Comicbook.com → ComicBook.com
- Done
- Inverse vs Inverse.com needs consistency
- Done
- ref 162: GamerRant+ → GameRant+
- referenced was removed
- ref 197: Cnet → CNET
- Done
- ref 199 & 255: missing website/work
- Done
- ref 22, 157 & 279: Cinema Blend → CinemaBlend
- Done
- ref 128: Observer → The New York Observer
- Done
- ref 158: GameRadar+ → GamesRadar+
- Done
- ref 33: it's seems to be Vanity Fair, not Variety
- Done
- Mark Vanity Fair, Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, Vulture & any others as |url-access=limited
- I think I got them
What makes the following sources high-quality reliable sources:
- GamesRadar+
- WP:RSN and they are owned by the same company that owns Tech Radar and Space.com (Future plc)
- Hollywood Insider
- replaced
- Screen Rant
- I thought you could use Screen Rant for things like this
- Decider – it's owned by WP:NYPOST...
- removed
- CinemaBlend
- They are owned by the same company that owns Tech Radar, Space.com, and GamesRadar+ (Future plc)
- TV Insider
- They are owned by TV Guide
- Newsweek – 'cuz it's post-2013
- removed
- Inverse
- Its owned by Bustle. Politico and The Observer mentioned them
- Looper.com
- Owned by the same company that owns /Film (Static Media)
- Metro – see WP:METRO
- Removed
- Distractify
- Removed and replace
- Uproxx
- according to WP:RSN
- Vizaca Magazine
- Removed
- Insider
- WP:BI says that there isn't a consensus if it is reliable or not. So some think it is and others don't
- Medium – is Irvin an expert in his field?
- I just removed it cause I feel lazy right now as it was just a secondary source
- Geek Ireland
- Ditto
- The Direct
- Removed
- GameRant+
- Removed
- The Ringer
- Mentioned by The Washington Post
- PopSugar
- According to WP:RSN It looks fine the way I used it
- Film School Rejects
- Mentioned by Austin Chronicles
- The Focus
- I mean it looks like they have an ok staff some of their partners are Journalism.co.uk, NewsNow, JPIMedia, and Taboola
- Syfy
- They are owned by NBC according to their article
Verifiability (it's kinda tedious because of the spotchecks...)
15 sources chosen at random:
- 4: I can't find any mention of Shaun, Jabba the Hutt or Fortuna
- added sources
- 21: OK
- 33: can't access, AGF
- fixed
- 40: OK
- 51: OK
- 115: OK
- 128: which bits supports that "Drash and Skad both help Boba Fett defeat the Pykes"?
- added source
- 132: OK
- 147: OK
- 166: OK
- 196: OK
- 224: OK
- 239: OK
- 243: which bit support that she "stops Boba Fett from running away"?
- removed that part of the sentence and combined the sentence with the other one
- 269: OK
We're getting started... Pamzeis (talk) 03:38, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey @Pamzeis: can you please finish this source review. I think it would be cool if this could be the Featured List on the main page on May 4th (for May the 4th be with you) if it passes since the empire strikes back will be the Featured article. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 17:52, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Dammit, I completely forgot about this.I- I think I'm done. I'm never doing this again. I don't get how people do this on a regular basis. Pamzeis (talk) 10:42, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]P.S. the 4th of May isn't a Monday or Friday (TFL only runs on Mondays and Fridays).
- Ah darn and thanks for doing that. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 11:57, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your patience with this... buuuuuuuuttttttt I'm still unsure about the reliability. I've started a discussion at WT:FL?#Sourcing; you're welcome to participate. Pamzeis (talk) 15:25, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- ok ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 18:24, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your patience with this... buuuuuuuuttttttt I'm still unsure about the reliability. I've started a discussion at WT:FL?#Sourcing; you're welcome to participate. Pamzeis (talk) 15:25, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah darn and thanks for doing that. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 11:57, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Dammit, I completely forgot about this.I- I think I'm done. I'm never doing this again. I don't get how people do this on a regular basis. Pamzeis (talk) 10:42, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]P.S. the 4th of May isn't a Monday or Friday (TFL only runs on Mondays and Fridays).
OK, well, the discussion was archived without a response, so I'll just pass this source review. Pamzeis (talk) 05:08, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
| Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:07, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply] |
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I'll take this challenge, but I'll definitely do it in chunks :-)
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| Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:28, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply] |
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- Further comments
- "The main villans of the series is the Pykes Syndicate" - the third word is spelt incorrectly, and as the subject is plural the verb should be "are" not "is"
- "She also went on to say that there's" => there is, not there's
- "Cinema Blend's Erik Swann praised Fenned Shand" - spelt wrong
- "help Boba Fett with the imminent war coming" - imminent and coming mean the same thing, so remove the latter
- "Clint Eastwood’s character a The Man with No Name" => "Clint Eastwood’s character The Man with No Name"
- "Blake Hawkins of Comic Book Resources liked 8D8 writing " => "Blake Hawkins of Comic Book Resources liked 8D8, writing "
- "TheWrap's Drew Taylor disliked 8D8 calling, him" => "TheWrap's Drew Taylor disliked 8D8, calling him"
- "Krrsantan doesn't listen" => "Krrsantan does not listen"
- "he saw him rip off the arm of a Tradoshan" - last word is spelt wrong
- "When asked about if whether she knew" => "When asked whether she knew"
- "She also said that most of the filming was done on the backlot with some of it in the volume" - what's "the volume"?
- "He continues to say that a cyborg gang keeps stealing his water and ask Fett to stop them" => "He continues to say that a cyborg gang keeps stealing his water and asks Fett to stop them"
- "After Fett finds Shand half-dead, he aides her" => "After Fett finds Shand half-dead, he aids her"
- In the Tusken Kid section, "kid" is sometimes capitalised and other times not
- "Later, she teaches Fett how fight" => "Later, she teaches Fett how to fight"
- "the scales of a giant sand creatures" - either creatures or a creature, but not a creatures
- "who are of the Order of the Night Wind, and try to kill Boba Fett" => "who are of the Order of the Night Wind and try to kill Boba Fett"
- Refs at the end of the Pyke Traveler and Pyke Boss sections are not in correct numerical order -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:52, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: done. Sorry that took a little bit, I was on a wiki break ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 19:38, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, also I have no idea what in the volume means. I thought that was just some term for movies and stuff that I didnt know about. What do you think I should do? ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 19:40, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- This explains it. Not something I had ever heard of before. I suggest changing it to "She also said that most of the filming was done on the backlot with some of it in the volume, an area where motion capture filming takes place" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, thanks ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 19:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- This explains it. Not something I had ever heard of before. I suggest changing it to "She also said that most of the filming was done on the backlot with some of it in the volume, an area where motion capture filming takes place" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, also I have no idea what in the volume means. I thought that was just some term for movies and stuff that I didnt know about. What do you think I should do? ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 19:40, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: done. Sorry that took a little bit, I was on a wiki break ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 19:38, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:52, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:17, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): Governor Sheng (talk) 15:25, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets all of the FL criteria... Governor Sheng (talk) 15:25, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- As a quick comment, you could add the photos of the bishops to the table. Reywas92Talk 18:04, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. --Governor Sheng (talk) 23:09, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- The reader has to wait until midway through the second sentence of paragraph 2 before you mention which country we are discussing here. That should be right in the very first sentence.
- Wikilink "suffragan" to somewhere appropriate?
- Same with "ordinary"?
- "and on its place" => "and in its place"
- "during the World War I and the first years of the World War II" => "during World War I and the first years of World War II"
- "He served as the bishop during the World War II" => "He served as the bishop during World War II"
- Is it really necessary to say "Serving as Bishop of Mostar-Duvno, he was also Apostolic Administrator of Trebinje-Mrkan" for every single one? Could that not be covered by a sentence in the lead saying that the bishop automatically (I presume) also holds the other post rather than repeating it over and over again in the table?
- There is no hyphen in the word websites
- That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:29, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you very much for your comments. I adjusted the article accordingly. --Governor Sheng (talk) 21:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding
!scope=col
to each header cell, e.g.!style="background-color: #d54974; color: white;" |{{abbr|No.|Number}}becomes!scope=col style="background-color: #d54974; color: white;" |{{abbr|No.|Number}}. - Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.![[Paškal Buconjić]]becomes!scope=row | [[Paškal Buconjić]]. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 19:42, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- PresN (talk · contribs) I think I've got it. Thank you! --Governor Sheng (talk) 17:18, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gerald Waldo Luis
[edit]In addition to the prose review, I'm source-passing this article with the note that I don't have access to the journals. As part of the image review, all the images require alt texts. GeraldWL 02:23, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- "The Bishop of Mostar-Duvno is the head of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Mostar-Duvno, located in Bosnia and Herzegovina, who is responsible for looking after its spiritual and administrative needs." This makes it as if Bosnia and Herz is responsible for looking after its spiritual and administrative needs. Suggest "The Bishop of Mostar-Duvno is the head of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Mostar-Duvno, located in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It is responsible for looking after the diocese's spiritual and administrative needs."
- Suggest linking Mostar, Duvno, Apostolic succession, and episcopacy.
- "The current bishop is Petar Palić, who serves as the diocese's sixth ordinary since 2020." Should there be an "also" between "who" and "serves"? Or is he being bishop and ordinary the same thing?
- "Its first ordinary was the last Apostolic Vicar of Herzegovina Paškal Buconjić." If he is mentioned in the third paragraph I don't see why this sentence is needed; you can merge the vicar info in the third paragraph though. I also suggest merging the second and third paragraph.
- "by the current bishop Petar Palić." --> "by the incumbent Palić." to avoid repetition.
- "Bishop's Ordinariate, located in Mostar, is the seat of the Bishop of Mostar-Duvno." --> "Exterior of Bishop's Ordinariate, the seat of the Bishop of Mostar-Duvno, which is located in Mostar" Full stops shouldn't be there since it's not a full sentence.
- "Franciscan. Chaplain (1871–73) and parish priest (1873–1874) in Drinovci; Custos of the Franciscan Province of Herzegovina (1874–79); guardian of the Franciscan friary in Humac, Ljubuški (1879–81)." Very monotone sentences, with the first sentence being only one, very technical word without any explanation. Suggest modifying to "A Franciscan, Buconjić was Chaplain (1871–73) and parish priest (1873–1874) in Drinovci; Custos of the Franciscan Province of Herzegovina (1874–79); guardian of the Franciscan friary in Humac, Ljubuški (1879–81)." Same case goes to Mišić's notes. Also link Chaplain
- "Serving as the apostolic vicar of Herzegovina (1880–81), he was also the titular bishop of Magydus (1880–81)." --> "In 1880–81, he served as both the apostolic vicar of Herzegovina and the titular bishop of Magydus."
- "and the first years of the Bosnian War." --> "and the early years of the Bosnian War."
- Link Apostolic Vicariate of Herzegovina, friary, parish, Archdiocese of Split-Makarska, and Rector (ecclesiastical)
- "He briefly served as the apostolic administratr" typo in "administratr"
- For the parts of the notes where you mention the different statuses they held, I suggest adding "Served as" in the beginning of the sentence. So "Served as archivist in the Episcopal Ordinariate (1926–1942) and secretary..."
- For the "Notes" section... can it be titled "Notes"? Because Notes generally refer to footnotes, like Template:Notelist. In my opinion this should be retitled either "Sources" or "Citations" or anything similar.
I have implemented your suggestions, except the alt text... For this I need clarification. Do you suggest I add a short description below the images in the table? --Governor Sheng (talk) 20:16, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Mmm no actually, alt texts are placed within the image file. Add an |alt= parameter and write a short description detailing the image. It's especially important for blind readers who can't see the image. For this image specifically I suggest "Low-angle image of a dark-yellow building". GeraldWL 01:58, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, got it. Done. Thank you! --Governor Sheng (talk) 20:19, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Z1720
[edit]I am still new to reviewing FLCs, so feedback and comments on this review are welcome. I will be focusing on the lede, prose, and understandability.
- "With the Austro-Hungarian occupation of Bosnia and Herzegovina in f878," This is supposed to say 1878?
- " Paškal Buconjić, who served 29 years, from 1881 to 1910,[5] who was also the last apostolic vicar of Herzegovina." -> " Paškal Buconjić, who served 29 years, from 1881 to 1910,[5] and was the last apostolic vicar of Herzegovina," Replaces the second "who" with "and" and removes the "also" as I do not think its necessary.
- "The first secular priest to be appointed the bishop was Petar Čule" -> "The first secular priest appointed bishop was Petar Čule" to tighten up the language
- "custos of the Franciscan Province of Herzegovina (1874–79);" Wikilink custos to Custos (Franciscans)
Please ping when the above have been addressed. Z1720 (talk) 18:14, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Z1720: Done. Thank you. --Governor Sheng (talk) 22:20, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Further comments:
- " It is responsible for looking after the diocese's spiritual and administrative needs." -> "He is responsible for overseeing the diocese's spiritual and administrative needs."
- "who serves since 2020 and is the 6th ordinary." -> who has served since 2020..."
- "and was also the last apostolic vicar of Herzegovina.[6], and Alojzije Mišić, who served for 30 years, from 1912 to 1942." the punctuation near the sixth reference needs to be fixed.
- "His successor Pavao Žanić reigned for 13 years, from 1980 to 1993,[9] marking the shortest episcopacy. His successor Ratko Perić held the episcopal office for 27 years, from 1993 to 2020, when he was succeeded by the incumbent bishop Petar Palić." Lots of "successor" and "succeeded" happening.
- Those are my thoughts. Z1720 (talk) 03:12, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Further comments:
Comments from TRM
[edit]- I'm not sure why this isn't just an article at Bishop of Mostar-Duvno? There's barely enough here to form a list (per 3b) and as there's no "parent" article, all the information surrounding this position, these individuals etc should be contained here.
- "serves as the diocese's sixth ordinary since 2020" not really, he's served since 2020 and is the sixth ordinary.
- "been Bishop of Mostar-Duvno" capital B?
- "in f878"....
- Link jargon like " papal bull"
- "1871–73" full years if not consecutive in a year range.
- What's "custos"?
- "1878. - 1918" should be "1878–1918"
That's it but the first point is the most pertinent. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:27, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your comments. Regarding your first comment, similar articles, like List of Roman Catholic bishops of Hong Kong became FL. I've fixed whit I've could. Regarding your last comment about "1878. - 1918" - this is the name of the article. In Croatian, the years are written with a dot. --Governor Sheng (talk) 22:29, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): AryKun (talk) 13:28, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Another bird list for a small Pacific island country. Reworked it a few weeks ago and I think it's ready for FLC now, so have at it. AryKun (talk) 13:28, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by Pseud 14
[edit]Great work and a fantastic read overall. A few comments from someone who is unfamiliar with the topic and is generally not my area of Wikipedia-interest:
- Perhaps you can link the first instance of atolls instead of the one in the second paragraph. As I see you have already defined reef islands in the enclosure.
- Done.
- Would there be a way to briefly define avifauna similarly to how you did with reef islands?
- Done.
- That's all for me. --Pseud 14 (talk) 15:08, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support --Pseud 14 (talk) 02:58, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- If you have some spare time or inclination, would appreciate feedback on my FLC as well. Though not mandatory at all
TRM
[edit]- Suggest a map showing where Tuvalu is would be helpful. Most of our readers won't have a clue where it might be located on planet Earth.
- Gilbert and Ellice Islands has an article!
- In fact, I would look at the Tuvalu article and even borrow some of the geography information from there to really contextualise the location.
- "from 2,500–3,500 mm" could probably switch to cm!
- Having said that, our article says it has an average precipitation of 3,500mm, not that range you give here.
- "very weakly developed" what does that mean?
- "Vegetation on the islands is predominantly" maybe to get round the awkward "is" here, you could say "Vegetation on the islands predominantly consists of..."?
- Why are the reef-heron and imperial-pigeon hyphenated when our articles don't do that?
- "globally threatened" probably a good time to introduce IUCN and their categorisation here.
- "the avifauna (birds) of Tuvalu" any real need for "avifauna" here?
- "tags are commonly occurring native species" is "commonly occurring" required here?
- "Charadriiformes" is overlinked but I guess it's a case of IAR here as they're in separate sections of a navigable list...
- The portal templates crush the refs, use a {{clear}} after them to avoid this.
That's it. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @AryKun: Are you still pursuing this nomination? --PresN 21:37, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @PresN, I'd like to withdraw this nom. AryKun (talk) 05:04, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @AryKun: Are you still pursuing this nomination? --PresN 21:37, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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