Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/log/July 2016
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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was kept by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:31, 6 July 2016 (UTC) [1].[reply]
- Notified: WikiProject Taylor Swift, WikiProject Discographies, WikiProject Country Music, WikiProject Pop music
I am nominating this for featured list removal for the following issues:
- The lead
- It is entirely US-centric and fails to take into account her success in any other nations, such as how "Love Story" was her first #1 song in Australia and "Today Was a Fairy Tale" became her first to top the charts in Canada.
- The prose itself could use work (i.e. "The album produced five singles, all of which"..... may as well give names, "hit" in "her first number-one hit" is too informal)
- The tables
- The "singles" section contains 11 columns when WP:WikiProject Discographies/style recommends using up to 10.
- I can understand having one component chart for a nation, but having both Country and Pop for US present at the same time is just overkill.
- Music videos really shouldn't contain rowspans; it hinders accessibility in instances like this.
- The references
- Many citations are malformatted (i.e. "australian-charts.com" should read "Australian Charts", "irish-charts.com" should read "Irish Charts")
- Some dead links need fixing
- I'm not sure if "Noise11" or "Radioscope" are good sources to use, but Us Weekly and "Zobbel.de" definitely aren't.
Overall, this list is simply not up to FL standards. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:47, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment – Noise11.com is acceptable as a temporary chart/certification source, but once ARIA/Hung medien updates, it should be replaced. Radioscope is reliable for the NZ old certifications, but again should be replaced whenever possible since RMNZ shows all the chart certifications now. Regarding the 11 charts, I will definitely say to revert the person who added it. Currently Taylor Swift does not require any genre charts to be added seeing that she went from Country to Pop and does not have extraordinary achievement on any particular genre/sub-chart, unlike Madonna for eg. —IB [ Poke ] 09:07, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I agree with all of the above. Nevertheless, some peak positions in the UK are not available in the official charts company website. Mainly regarding peaks above the top 100 and if they are backed by Chatsplus they will be fine. The rest a little work would do the trick and keep the page according to FA standards. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:34, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note – I've done some major work on the list and will need some more time to bring it up to par. FrB.TG (talk) 15:46, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- @FrB.TG: that's a really good start. I would suggest to add France as one of the biggest markets in the chart tables to make it 10 charts. Because anything less than the 10 markets it opens a can of worms and prone to fanboy additions of obscure markets. —IB [ Poke ] 09:02, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Definitely a good start indeed, though still needs work to meet standards Snuggums (talk / edits) 12:55, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I addressed every concern raised and everything I noticed. Hopefully it's all better now. Cheers, FrB.TG (talk) 17:40, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Your efforts are appreciated. I just tweaked the lead a bit and don't see any glaring issues now. Good to keep. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:20, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I addressed every concern raised and everything I noticed. Hopefully it's all better now. Cheers, FrB.TG (talk) 17:40, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Definitely a good start indeed, though still needs work to meet standards Snuggums (talk / edits) 12:55, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- @FrB.TG: that's a really good start. I would suggest to add France as one of the biggest markets in the chart tables to make it 10 charts. Because anything less than the 10 markets it opens a can of worms and prone to fanboy additions of obscure markets. —IB [ Poke ] 09:02, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Seeing FrB's efforts I can gladly say that this list can keep its featured status. —IB [ Poke ] 15:57, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. due to the improvements. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:22, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Everyone seems to be satisfied with the updates, so keeping. --PresN 16:41, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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