Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Featured log/September 2021
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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 27 September 2021 (UTC) [1].[reply]
- Nominator(s): Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:47, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I feel that these types of lists on United States presidential elections have a great potential to be FL. I almost completely re-formatted the list, added a lead, and key for political parties. It lists all the elections in which Washington, D.C. participated, with votes and percentage. I intend to make similar changes to all the lists within this series. I would respond to every comment, and try to bring this nomination to FL standards whenever needed. With one of the list (United States presidential elections in Utah) currently a FLC, with multiple supports, I nominate this too. Check this page for progress. Thanks! (48 states more to go) – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:47, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from ChrisTheDude
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- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:17, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TRM
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*The lead feels a little on the brief side.
The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 10:15, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Support by Lee Vilenski
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- Note – User:Lee Vilenski declared their support for this nomination in this edit by them. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 08:45, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Ojorojo
[edit]Resolved comments from Ojorojo (talk) 13:28, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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I knew D.C. was heavily Democratic, but this list really drives it home.
That's it for now. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:11, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Your responses about maintaining consistency in the series make sense. Several of my comments reflect stylistic preferences and the changes you've made take care of the rest. Happy to add my support. —Ojorojo (talk) 13:28, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 13:40, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Source review – The reliability and formatting of the sources both look fine throughout, and the link-checker tool shows no issues. The source review has been passed. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:36, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 27 September 2021 (UTC) [2].[reply]
- Nominator: Dugan Murphy (talk) 16:22, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If your local library has anything by John Neal, it's likely locked up in special collections. And yet his bibliography contains influential criticisms and creative works like the first use of son-of-a-bitch in American fiction, the first uses of natural diction in Anglophile literature, the first works of American art criticism, the constitution of the first public gym established by an American, the first hardcover novel about the Salem witch trials, the first work by an American in British literary journals, and so many more groundbreaking, before-their-time works. To document Neal's career as a poet, critic, novelist, children's author, short story writer, journalist, playwright, historian, and translator, I put together this bibliography. This is my first FLC, though I did go through FAC recently twice for another article, so I'm going into this nomination fairly confident. I'm particularly interested in hearing from reviewers on my decision to WP:SPLITOUT the section on articles in periodicals. Thank you in advance for taking a look! Dugan Murphy (talk) 16:22, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Initial comments
- Against "Keep Cool, A Novel", what does "M.D.C." mean?
- Reasonable question! I added a note there to answer that. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "The best poetic description of Niagara Falls up to that time" - according to whom? There's a number of other direct quotes which would benefit from clarification of who actually said them.
- The cited book says "With 'The Battle of Niagara' he became known for writing the greatest poetic description of Niagara Falls to that time." So the cited author is not referring to any one person's pronouncement. I reworded this claim in the article to hopefully better reflect the source. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "A Biography of Neal" - no reason for capital B
- Agreed! Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "A Portland, Maine guidebook "so chaotic in arrangement as to diminish greatly its usefulness."" - not a complete sentence so shouldn't have a full stop
- Agreed! Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Is it possible to clarify who John Bratish Eliovich was?
- That's reasonable. I added "alleged con man" to clarify. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- That's what I got as far as the end of the Collaborative works section. I will look at the rest later..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:15, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Further comments
- I'd merge the second and third paragraphs under Selected articles, as both are very small
- Agreed! Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- ""a scathing satire," according to" - comma should be outside the quote marks
- Agreed! Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- ""Mrs. Farnham lived long enough to retrace her ground and accept the highest truth," according to" - and again
- Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "published in 2 installments" => "published in two installments"
- Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "distinct subtitles: "More Dogs," "Fact," "Cats," and "Joe Miller"" - again, commas should be outside quote marks
- Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "Along with "Robert Steele," one of two stories" - same again - in fact, check throughout for this as it occurs in quite a lot of places
- Done. As you can see, this is the part of the Wikipedia MOS that comes least naturally to me. Thank you for finding these. I just searched for the rest and I think I have now moved all the punctuation marks within quotes that aren't part of the quotes themselves. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Notes for "The Ins and the Outs, or the Last of the Bamboozled. By a Disappointed Man" randomly end in a semi-colon
- Deleted! Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- ""show's Neal's usual facility in Yankee dialect and Yankee psychology"" - there should not be an apostrophe in "shows"
- Agreed! Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- In the notes for "The Switch-Tail Pacer. A Tale of Other Days" there's an opening quote mark but no corresponding closing quote mark
- Added. Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- That's it from me, I think - great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:19, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to read through it all and bringing up all these issues. Let me know if you think any of these items still need to be addressed.Dugan Murphy (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: do you support the nomination now that the issues you raised have been addressed, do you have more issues to raise, or would you like to leave your comments as just comments? Dugan Murphy (talk) 13:00, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - apologies, I completely forgot to check back in............. -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:37, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source review – Pass
[edit]Will do soon. Aza24 (talk) 01:06, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry for the delay, comments below:
- Formatting
- I'm not sure what "serial biography" means—perhaps link to Serial (literature)? (if that's the correct link)
- That article describes well this use of "serial", so I just Wikilinked it. Dugan Murphy (talk) 21:50, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- recommend adding location for Harvard University, like the other refs
- Agreed! Done. I also Wikilinked Harvard. Dugan Murphy (talk) 21:50, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Reliability
- No issues here
- Verifiability
- no issues
- Well not really anything to say over all—apologies for the delay. I've left two comments but they're to minor to prevent a source review pass, though I still recommend you address them. Best - Aza24 (talk) 23:40, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I believe those comments are now addressed. Thank you for taking the time to do a source review! Dugan Murphy (talk) 21:50, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from HAL
[edit]- The lead is too short.
- Agreed. I just expanded it by about 100%. Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:22, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Maybe link Bitch (slang)#Son of a bitch
- Sure! Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:22, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I would do it in the list as well. ~ HAL333 23:11, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Of course! Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Sure! Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:22, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I find the partial inclusion of articles strange. Either all articles should be included or it should be a "See also" link.
- My thinking here is that I am following the WP:SPLITOUT policy and the precedent of "Selected works" sections you see in authors' biography articles. The split-out Articles by John Neal is 160,143 bytes, compared to this article's 113,603, so putting the full list of articles back in would more than double this article's size. I see value in having a shortened list of the more important stuff here, plus the full list in another article. Thoughts? Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:22, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Up to you in the end. ~ HAL333 23:11, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok. I'm going to keep as-is unless I find a policy to the contrary that convincingly applies here. Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Up to you in the end. ~ HAL333 23:11, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- My thinking here is that I am following the WP:SPLITOUT policy and the precedent of "Selected works" sections you see in authors' biography articles. The split-out Articles by John Neal is 160,143 bytes, compared to this article's 113,603, so putting the full list of articles back in would more than double this article's size. I see value in having a shortened list of the more important stuff here, plus the full list in another article. Thoughts? Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:22, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
More comments later. ~ HAL333 20:31, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for taking the time to review and write up a few comments! I look forward to more. Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:22, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Courtesy ping for @HAL333: ;) Aza24 (talk) 21:29, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I am assuming that everything in the lead is sourced later in the list, right?
- True. In fact, I think everything in the lead is copied from the prose introductions to the sections. Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As a novelist, John Neal
I would link "John Neal" since this is the first usage outside the lead.
- Good point! Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- To improve flow, you could combine the sentences
A pioneer of American colloquialism and dialects in novels, Neal's novels are aligned with both the literary nationalist and regionalist movements. They also anticipate the characteristics of the American Renaissance
- I like that idea. Done. Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Maybe center the years in the columns. They are ever so slightly offset to the left.
- That might be what it looks like in the 1st section, but in the subsequent sections I think it would look weird to center those columns and I want to be consistent in column alignment between sections. Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Are none of the novels notable enought to be redlinked?
- That's a good question. What I just did was redlink the one work that is also redlinked from John Neal (writer). Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- References need to be centered.
- I can't figure out how to center the text in just one column without centering it in all columns. Can you help? Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dugan Murphy – You can do the easily by replacing
| {{sfn|Richards|1933|p=1882}}
with| style="text-align: center;" | {{sfn|Richards|1933|p=1882}}
. I have done one for you as an example. Repeat same in all the reference cells. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:01, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]- Thanks, Kavyansh.Singh! References are now all centered. Dugan Murphy (talk) 22:47, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks good! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:00, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, Kavyansh.Singh! References are now all centered. Dugan Murphy (talk) 22:47, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dugan Murphy – You can do the easily by replacing
- I can't figure out how to center the text in just one column without centering it in all columns. Can you help? Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's all. A really nicely put together list. I apologize for my tardiness. ~ HAL333 23:11, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for taking the time to look it over! Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Courtesy ping for HAL333, just for them to take a second look. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:00, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @HAL333: With your comments addressed, would you say that you support this nomination? Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:48, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Kavyansh.Singh
[edit]"Between 1817 and 1835 Neal became the"
– comma after 1835
- Agreed. Done! Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"A pioneer of colloquialism, John Neal"
– 'John Neal' could go without 'John'....
- Agreed. Done! Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Rest, it looks like a fine list. No issues with the table. That is all from me. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 04:15, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for taking the time to review! Would you say you support this nomination? Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Definitely. I support this list for promotion as a Featured List. Would appreciate any comments for this nomination. Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:35, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for taking the time to review! Would you say you support this nomination? Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:41, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Grapple X
[edit]Largely happy with this but with a few small comments:
His last major work was a guide book was an 1874 guidebook for his hometown, Portland, Maine
—I know city-comma-state is the standard construction but leading into that with another comma is awkward here; suggesthis hometown of Portland, Maine
or something similar to avoid this.
- Done! I also cut the extra words in that sentence to make it legible. Dugan Murphy (talk) 23:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- No issue with red-linking something notable but not yet created but it's odd to see only one novel in that section being linked like this; is there anything about Rachel Dyer: a North American Story that would set it apart from Neal's other novels in this regard? Less a matter of whether linking is right or wrong than it is one of consistency, really.
- I hear what you're saying. Hal 333 asked in one of his comments (above) if anything was worth redlinking. I decided to redlink just Rachel Dyer because it is the only work of Neal's redlinked from John Neal (writer). The only reason it is redlinked there is because it is generally regarded as Neal's best novel (see the notes column for that novel's entry in the bibliography). But sometimes I feel like if I'm not going to redlink all of them then I should redlink none of them, as was originally the case. Especially because they're all basically unknown to a modern audience. Do you have more thoughts on it? Dugan Murphy (talk) 23:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The "Newspapers for which Neal wrote" section has no real context; I understand this may be due to necessity but do the sources you use for it mention the general or most common nature of these contributions—ie are they also serialising his fiction, or was he a columnist, etc? If the information isn't available that's fine but if it could be added briefly it would be nice.
- Good point. I just added a short paragraph that hopefully adds sufficient context. Dugan Murphy (talk) 23:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to support this at present but would welcome the above being at least responded to if not actioned. Good work. 𝄠ʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 13:08, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for reviewing the list! Dugan Murphy (talk) 23:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Changes look good. What I would say about linking is that given the breadth of sourcing used here, it seems likely that a number of these novels would meet GNG if they haven't been created yet. Seventy-Six seems like a good contender, and you've several sources mentioning basically all of them bar the dime novels. It's worth considering; one link in a list makes more sense if it's to an extant article but one red link and no others does stand out. It's not an actionable objection to worry about though. 𝄠ʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 09:52, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:06, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 20 September 2021 (UTC) [3].[reply]
- Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 22:22, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi everyone, with 72 of these lists now at FL and another one nearly there, here's what I hope will be #74 (and we really are nearly all done - promise!). This particular year featured the doubly unusual occurrence of a song smashing straight into the Hot Country Songs chart at number one (only the second time that had ever happened) and then falling off the chart completely the very next week - weird...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 22:22, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source review – Pass
[edit]Doing now. Aza24 (talk) 20:40, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Formatting
- Standardized throughout
- Reliability
- Reliability fine throughout
- Verifiability
- Link for ref 9 is just going to the home page for me
- Just get in the right link (or archive) and ping me and then you should be good. Aza24 (talk) 20:46, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Aza24: - done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:49, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Bam! Pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 20:52, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TRM
[edit]Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:00, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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*Link "charts".
That's all I have. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 10:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support my issues resolved, looks good. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 10:12, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Image review – Pass
[edit]- All the five images are either from Flickr, or uploaded as own work of a commons user. All are licenced appropriately, and have ALT text. Pass for image review. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:04, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Other reviews
[edit]- Comments
- From my experience, New York Times articles are
url-access=limited
instead ofurl-access=subscription
- Rolling Stone article should be
url-access=limited
- "the unusual feat" – probably need a better source to say that
That's all I've got – overall, it's great as usual. RunningTiger123 (talk) 21:58, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @RunningTiger123: - done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:49, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Support – RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:07, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Dank
- Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
- "dropped from number one off the chart": I think "dropped off the chart" is a little smoother.
- The table needs an sronly caption.
- "49th Country Music Association (CMA) Awards": It's probably better not to define this abbreviation, since your article doesn't ever use it (after this).
- "by Zac Brown Band": by the Zac Brown Band (per usage in that article)
- Checking the FLC criteria:
- 1. The prose is fine. I checked sorting on all sortable columns and sampled the links in the table.
- 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
- 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
- 3b. Sourcing: see the source review.
- 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
- 4. It is navigable.
- 5. It meets style requirements. Images: see the image review.
- 6. It is stable.
- Close enough for a support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 17:09, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dank: - thanks for your review. All done! :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:44, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:07, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 20 September 2021 (UTC) [4].[reply]
- Nominator(s): PresN 13:11, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Way back in 2010/2011, I pushed an entire set of a 15 lists through FLC around the Hugo Awards, oft-considered the premier award in scifi/fantasy literature. Since then, the awards have added a couple more categories, with one in 2012 (FL'd in 2015), and the newest in 2017: the Hugo Award for Best Series. This category is for entire (active) series of stories, and with its fifth year of awards coming up it's past time to get added to the set. This list follows the pattern set down by the other 16 Hugo lists, and to a lesser extent the other sff awards lists I've also done over the years. That said, it's been a few years since I brought one to FLC, so I'm open to any changes and will try to replicate them back across the other lists. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 13:11, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- One-digit numbers should be spelled out (i.e., "three" instead of "3").
- Reference 4 needs a more recent access date to be useful (2010 is too early to provide information for Best Series nominations).
- Not sure why 1945 is wikilinked to 1944 in literature when no other years are wikilinked
- "et. al." → "et al." (two occurrences)
— RunningTiger123 (talk) 13:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @RunningTiger123: All done, thanks! --PresN 13:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support – RunningTiger123 (talk) 15:59, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Dank
- Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
- This assumes that other reviews reach some kind of resolution.
- Consistency: Hugo Award vs. Hugo award
- Fixed to always be capitalized.
- Consistency: Retrospective Hugo Awards or Retro Hugos (and then "retrospective" can be inserted as an explanation, or "retro" can be inserted as a nickname)
- Already present in the lead: {{tq|"beginning in 1996 Retrospective Hugo Awards, or "Retro Hugos", have...", and "Retro Hugos" is used thereafter
- "the World Science Fiction Society created the concept of "Retro Hugos", in which the Hugo award could be retroactively awarded for years 50, 75, or 100 years before the current year": "created the concept" suggests that it's not a real award in some sense. If you don't want to cast doubt (or shade) on the award, maybe something like this would be better: the World Science Fiction Society awarded Retro (retrospective) Hugos ...
- Reworded
- "have been given for series for 1945": not sure what this means
- Expanded
- "for The Expanse series of eight novels": the "the" is doing double duty here; a little better would be "The Expanse, a series ...". Same here, later in the lead: add ", a" to "for The Expanse series".
- Fixed
- Checking the FLC criteria:
- 1. The prose is fine. I've done a little copyediting; feel free to revert or discuss. The table coding seems fine. I checked sorting on all sortable columns and sampled the links in the table.
- 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
- 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
- 3b. The article is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
- 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
- 4. It is navigable.
- 5. It meets style requirements.
- 6. It is stable.
- Close enough for a support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 19:25, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dank: Thanks for the review! --PresN 13:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source review – Pass
[edit]Will do soon. Aza24 (talk) 02:13, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Version reviewed: [5]
- Formatting
- Locus (magazine) should be italicized in ref 4
- Fixed
- Reliability
- Seems fine; we've never rejected award lists from sourcing from the place that gives the awards in the past, so no issues.
- Verifiability
- Though I recognize there aren't actual page numbers in the documents, it seems less than ideal to cite an entire 20 and 25 page document. Could you perhaps include the pdf page numbers? I assumed for ref 1 this would include pages 8 & 9. Alternatively, you could cite "Section 3.3: Categories" or the section intended? Aza24 (talk) 02:28, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Aza24: Added the section title. Thanks for the source review! --PresN 13:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Source review pass – Aza24 (talk) 18:05, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- "It was started then" - reads a bit clunkily. Maybe "It was first presented in that year"?
- Done
- "Retro Hugo Awards have been given for the series category one time" => "A Retro Hugo Award has been given for the series category once"
- Done
- "Initial nominations of five works each" => "Initial nominations of five series each".....?
- Done
- "James S. A. Corey (Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck)" => "James S. A. Corey (a pen-name for Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck)" for absolute clarity
- Done
- "the date of the ceremony, rather than when the story was first published" - "story" should be "series", I think, but not sure how the "first published" bit works in this context......
- Fixed, for series it's "not the year that the 'last' (as of then) work was published", so I've clarified that it's not representing any given element of the series' publication date
- Why is the Retro Hugo entry for The Cthulhu Mythos split across two lines, rather than just a single line showing "H. P. Lovecraft, August Derleth et al."? The latter is consistent with the source
- Consistency across lists, mostly- while this is the only multi-author series in this list, it's rather common in other categories (such as the 2020 awards in the Novella category); the Hugo site puts the authors on a single line, but that doesn't work with sortable tables, so we break it up into multiple rows as a rule. This way, if Derlath was nominated for another Retro-Hugo, sorting the table by name puts all of their nominations next to each other even though one was in combination with Lovecraft. While that scenario seems less likely in this category, take for example Novellas again- Kuttner had a joint nomination in 2019, so by splitting up the rows, sorting by name puts his nomination next to his 2014 and 2020 nominations, instead of buried elsewhere with his co-author.
- Both the source and our main article on the Hugos show Retro-Hugo with a dash
- Ugh, I can never keep that in my head. Fixed.
- Think that's all I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:06, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: All done, thanks for reviewing! --PresN 15:11, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:14, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The 2020 Atlantic hurricane season was the most active Atlantic hurricane season on record. It featured a total of 31 (sub)tropical cyclones, all but one of which became a named storm. Of those that did, 14 became hurricanes, with seven becoming a major hurricane; several underwent periods of rapid intensification during their lifetime. As this timeline provides comprehensive documentation of the season's tropical cyclone formations, strengthening, weakening, landfalls, extratropical transitions, and dissipations, I am nominating it for featured list. Drdpw (talk) 22:03, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Support from Hurricane Noah
[edit]The sources need a lot of love, there's outdated/incorrect information throughout the article, and a large reliance on operational data. There are mostly minor prose and image issues as well. I will leave more detailed comments later tonight after dinner and more tomorrow. NoahTalk 23:19, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Supporting now that all of these issues are fixed. NoahTalk 00:16, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source Review
[edit]- Pass SR. NoahTalk 00:16, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
NHC advisories should be replaced with the TCR in text (they may be used for notes and such) in almost all cases. I will wait for you to do this before conducting a full SR. NoahTalk 01:15, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Formatting
- FN3: Author not mentioned. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hurricane Noah: This same statement appears in scores of articles, including many that are GA-class and FL-class, without author mentioned.
- The name may have been mentioned at one point, but it isn't now. Those refs should be fixed in the GAs and FLs, however, it isn't a critical issue for them. NoahTalk 22:37, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hurricane Noah: This same statement appears in scores of articles, including many that are GA-class and FL-class, without author mentioned.
- All news sources should be cite news. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 22:04, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- FN9: Miami needs capitalized. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 22:04, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- For tropical cyclone reports, tropical cyclone report is not a work. It is part of the title of a report. "Tropical Cyclone Report: Tropical Storm Arthur". You also do not need to include the original report dates in citations. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 23:52, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Please make all advisories and TCRs cite report. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 23:52, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- FN11: Please use Andrew Latto for author name as that is what is used on most NHC products. It needs to be consistent in this article as well. Check for more occurrences. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 23:52, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Please do not include middle initials and "the II" for references unless you include it for all of them. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hurricane Noah: So, first and last name only, regardless of how the author is credited on the individual report? I went with how the author was named in each individual report. Drdpw (talk) 22:04, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, WP wants sources to be formatted consistently inside an article, which sometimes means you can't use middle initials as you don't know them for every author. NoahTalk 22:37, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 23:52, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- FN38:
Hurricane And Typhoon Updates
"and" should not be capitalized. This should also be a series and not a work. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 22:04, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Spot Checks
06:00 UTC (1:00 a.m CDT) at 18.9°N 92.3°W – Tropical Storm Cristobal attains maximum sustained winds of 60 mph (95 km/h), while located about 40 mi (65 km) northwest of Ciudad del Carmen.[13]
Statement supported by source. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]18:00 UTC (1:00 p.m. CDT) at 27.3°N 92.5°W – Hurricane Laura intensifies to Category 4 strength about 200 mi (320 km) south-southeast of Lake Charles.[24]
Statement supported by source. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]18:00 UTC (1:00 p.m. CDT) at 28.9°N 96.5°W – Tropical Storm Beta weakens to a tropical depression inland, about 30 mi (45 km) north-northwest of Matagorda Bay.[36]
Statement supported by source. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]23:00 UTC (6:00 p.m. CDT) at 29.8°N 93.1°W – Hurricane Delta makes landfall near Creole, Louisiana, with maximum winds of about 100 mph (155 km/h).[41]
Statement supported by source. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]06:00 UTC (1:00 a.m. EST) at 14.9°N 80.4°W – Tropical Storm Eta becomes a hurricane about 310 mi (500 km) south of Grand Cayman.[44]
Statement supported by source. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Pass spotchecks. NoahTalk 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Lead
[edit]and had the highest accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) since 2017.
Unsourced NoahTalk 01:32, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Modified. Cut this clause, not really pertinent as ACE is not noted anywhere in the TL. Drdpw (talk) 08:48, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
and Tropical Storm Bertha on May 16 and May 27 respectively
Comma needed after May 27 NoahTalk 01:32, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 08:48, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Of these, 14 became hurricanes, with six becoming major hurricanes
Don't mix numerical and written form numbers in the same sentence. NoahTalk 01:32, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Both now numerals. Drdpw (talk) 08:48, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
was the nation's deadliest and most destructive of the season. It killed at least 40 people after striking Louisiana on August 27 with winds of 150 mph (240 km/h), and caused at least $14 billion in damage.
US-centric... ignores an additional 5 billion in damage as well as dozens of indirect deaths outside the US.
- Modified. Hurricane Laura produced catastrophic storm surge levels, heavy rainfall, and spawned over a dozen tornadoes after striking Louisiana on August 27 with winds of 150 mph (240 km/h). The storm was responsible for 81 deaths and it caused over US$19 billion in damage across the Greater Antilles and the Southern United States.[6] Drdpw (talk) 08:48, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also causing significant loss of lives and widespread destruction were November hurricanes Eta and Iota, which made landfall in Central America as category 4 storms just two weeks apart.
Also is redundant. You should specify the deaths and damage that these storms caused (collectively) as it was quite significant. I would even go as far as to mention the collective number of missing individuals considering it was quite high. NoahTalk 01:32, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Modified. Causing significant late-season loss of life and widespread destruction were November hurricanes Eta and Iota, which made landfall in Central America as Category 4 storms just two weeks apart.[2] The storms left a toll of 184 deaths and 110 missing across the region, thousands of families lost their homes and livelihoods.[7]
The storms left a toll of 184 deaths and 110 missing across the region, thousands of families lost their homes and livelihoods.
You need an "and" after the comma. NoahTalk 12:39, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 18:15, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Prose
[edit]forms from a broad area of low pressure about 125 mi (200 km)
Link for low-pressure area should be moved here NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Make sure to link to all storm articles in the text NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Check mph/kmh and mi/km conversions for accuracy (should be converted from knots and nautical miles, respectively) NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:40, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Florida should be linked separately NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Link maximum sustained wind NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Link atmospheric pressure NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Arthur reaches its peak intensity with maximum sustained winds of 60 mph (95 km/h) and a minimum barometric pressure of 990 mbar (29.23 inHg)[nb 3] about 190 mi (310 km) east-northeast of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina.[9]
Comma after the pressure reading NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Link North Carolina NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Link to Amanda/Cristobal article rather than the season section NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there a link for Atasta (wiki data? Wikipedia Espanol?) NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- ◆ Wikipedia Espanol does have a small Península de Atasta article; Wikidata has nothing for Atasta / Península de Atasta. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
north-northwest of Progreso, Yucatán in the Gulf of Mexico.
Comma after Yucatán NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Cristobal makes its second landfall between the mouth of the Mississippi River and Grand Isle in southeastern Louisiana with winds of 50 mph (85 km/h) and a central pressure of 992 mbar (29.29 inHg)
Comma after Louisiana NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Dubuque, Iowa and subsequently dissipates
Comma after Iowa NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Link subtropical cyclone on first mention for a subtropical system NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
north of the Gulf Stream about 200 mi (320 km) south
recommend removing the gulf stream mention as two directions is confusing. NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comma after Nova Scotia NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Edouard becomes post-tropical about 445 mi (715 km) southeast of Cape Race, Newfoundland[17] and subsequently dissipates.[15]
Comma after Newfoundland. Any reason why there is a ref in the middle of a sentence? NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Modified. Tropical Storm Edouard becomes extratropical about 490 mi (785 km) east-southeast of Cape Race, Newfoundland, and subsequently dissipates. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- New Jersey should be linked separately NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
and is later absorbed into a larger mid-latitude low.[19]
Sentence fragment NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Modified. period → comma after New York City. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Seven forms from a broad low pressure system moving slowly westward within the Intertropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ) about 1,440 mi (2,315 km) east of the southern Windward Islands
Comma after ITCZ NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]- Tropical wave should be linked on the first mention
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Eight forms from a tropical wave over the central Gulf of Mexico about 240 mi (385 km) south-southeast of the mouth of the Mississippi River
Comma after Mexico NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Gonzalo reaches its peak intensity of 65 mph (105 km/h) maximum sustained winds and minimum barometric pressure of 997 mbar (hPa; 29.44 inHg) while located about 690 mi (1,110 km) east of the southern Windward Islands.
Comma after pressure reading NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Texas should be linked separately NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
along the eastern coast of Trinidad near Manzanilla Beach.
Comma after Trinidad NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Hanna reaches its peak intensity of 90 mph (150 km/h) maximum sustained winds and minimum barometric pressure of 973 mbar (hPa; 28.73 inHg)
This is worded strangely. It would also be worth mentioning it was a Category 2 hurricane as well. NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Modified. Hurricane Hanna attains its peak intensity with maximum sustained winds of 90 mph (150 km/h) and minimum barometric pressure of 973 mbar (hPa; 28.73 inHg). Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Hanna makes landfall on Padre Island, Texas with maximum sustained winds of 90 mph (150 km/h)
Comma after Texas NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Hanna makes a second landfall about 15 miles (25 km) north-northwest of Port Mansfield, Texas with maximum sustained winds of 90 mph (150 km/h)
Comma after Texas NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Hanna weakens to a tropical depression near Monterrey, Nuevo León and dissipates shortly thereafter
Comma after Nuevo León NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Puerto Rico needs to be linked NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Isaias strengthens into a hurricane shortly after emerging over the Atlantic Ocean while its eye was located just offshore of the northern coast of Hispaniola
Comma after Atlantic Ocean NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Isaias makes landfall on Great Inagua Island, Bahamas with sustained winds of 80 mph (130 km/h)
Link Bahamas and add a comma after it NoahTalk 02:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Ten degenerates to a remnant low while located about 230 mi (370 km) north of the Cabo Verde Islands and later dissipates
Comma after CV Islands NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Isaias regains to hurricane strength
Remove to NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Isaias reaches its peak intensity with maximum sustained winds of 90 mph (145 km/h) and a minimum barometric pressure of 986 mbar (29.12 inHg) while located just off the coast of South Carolina
Comma after pressure reading NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Isaias makes its fourth and final landfall near Ocean Isle Beach, North Carolina with maximum sustained winds of 90 mph (150 km/h)
Comma after NC NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Isaias transitions to an extratropical low about 5 mi (10 km) west-northwest of Rutland, Vermont and later dissipates
Link Vermont and add a comma after it NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Leeward Islands needs linked NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Kyle develops from a mesoscale convective system offshore of the Outer Banks about 105 mi (170 km) east-northeast of Duck, North Carolina
Pick one location reference NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Going with Duck, NC. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Check spelling of mbar and spacing between number and unit abbreviation NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Kyle moves over the Gulf Stream, where attains its peak intensity with maximum sustained winds of 50 mph (80 km/h) and a minimum pressure at 1,000 mbr (29.53inHg) about 230 mi (370 km) southeast of Cape Cod, Massachusetts
Comma after pressure reading NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Kyle becomes extratropical roughly 545 mi (880 km) southwest of Cape Race, Newfoundland and is absorbed by a nearby stationary front
Comma after Newfoundland NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Josephine weakens to a tropical depression as it passes to the north of the Leeward Islands and later dissipates
Comma after Leeward Islands NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
northeast of Cabo Gracias a Dios, on the Honduras–Nicaragua border
Comma isn't needed here NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Link Caribbean Sea NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Laura becomes better organized as it moves offshore from Cuba over the Gulf of Mexico
Why is this point needed? NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Modified. Tropical Storm Laura moves offshore from the western tip of Cuba into the Gulf of Mexico. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Marco degenerates into a remnant low along the Louisiana coastline and later opens up into a trough
Comma after coastline NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Capitalize "Category" throughout the article when talking about the Category of a hurricane NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Laura reaches its peak intensity with maximum sustained winds of 150 mph (240 km/h) and minimum pressure 937 mbar (27.67 inHg)[36] about 120 mi (190 km) south of Lake Charles
Comma after pressure reading NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Laura makes landfall near Cameron, Louisiana with sustained winds of 150 mph (240 km/h)
Comma after Louisiana NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Link Arkansas separately NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Laura degenerates into a remnant low over northern Kentucky and is later absorbed by another low
Comma after Kentucky NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Fifteen strengthens into Tropical Storm Omar about 115 mi (185 km) southeast of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina and simultaneously reaches its peak intensity with sustained winds of 40 mph (65 km/h) and a minimum pressure of 1,003 mbar (29.6 inHg)
Comma after NC NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Nana becomes a category 1 hurricane about 60 mi (95 km) southeast of Belize City, Belize and simultaneously reaches its peak intensity with sustained winds of 75 mph (120 km/h) and a minimum central pressure of 994 mbar (29.36 inHg).
Comma after Belize NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Link for Sittee Point? NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- ◆ No link for Sittee Point.
Nana weakens to a tropical depression near the Guatemala–Mexico border
Should be Tropical Storm Nana NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
ropical Depression Nana degenerates into a remnant low and dissipates over the mountainous terrain of western Guatemala shortly thereafter
Comma after RL NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Omar degenerates into a remnant low about 575 mi (925 km) northeast of Bermuda and is later absorbed by a frontal system
Comma after Bermuda NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Nineteen makes landfall about 10 mi (15 km) south-southeast of Miami, Florida with winds of 35 mph (55 km/h).
Comma after Florida NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Nineteen becomes Tropical Storm Sally while the center was located over the Everglades about 30 mi (50 km) west of Homestead, Florida
Whose center? NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Twenty strengthens
strengthens into NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]and becomesTropical Storm Teddy
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Paulette makes landfall near Tucker's Town, Bermuda as a category 2 hurricane with sustained winds of 100 mph (160 km/h) and a minimum pressure of 970 mbar (28.64 inHg)
Comma after Bermuda and hurricane NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Rene opens into a trough roughly 1,120–1,035 mi (1,805–1,665 km
Lower end values are always listed first NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Sally reaches its peak intensity as it makes landfall near Gulf Shores, Alabama with maximum sustained winds of 110 mph (175 km/h) and a minimum central pressure of 965 mbar (28.50 inHg)
Comma after Alabama NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Teddy strengthens to Category 2 velocity
Not sure velocity is a correct wording here NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Modified. velocity → intensity. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Sally becomes an extratropical low over eastern Alabama and is subsequently absorbed within a cold front
Comma after Alabama NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Vicky becomes a remnant low about 920 mi (1,480 km) west-northwest of the northwesternmost Cabo Verde Islands and subsequently dissipates
Comma after CV Islands NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Subtropical Storm Alpha reaches its peak intensity with sustained winds of 50 mph (80 km/h) and a minimum pressure of 996 mbar (29.41 inHg) about 260 mi (420 km) west-southwest of Lisbon, Portugal
Comma after pressure reading NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Subtropical Storm Alpha makes landfall about 10 mi (15 km) south of Figueira da Foz, Portugal with winds estimated at 50 mph (80 km/h)
Comma after Portugal NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Subtropical Depression Alpha degenerates to a post-tropical remnant low near Viseu, Portugal.[74] and subsequently dissipates
sentence fragment here. Should be a comma instead of a period. NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Paulette degenerates into a remnant low again about 690 mi (1,110 km) southeast of the Azores and subsequently dissipates
Comma after Azores NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Beta becomes extratropical inland near the Texas coast and subsequently dissipates.
Comma after Texas coast NoahTalk 02:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Link Jamaica separately NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Gamma makes landfall near San Felipe, Yucatán and its circulation later dissipates.
Comma after Yucatán NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Delta reaches its peak intensity with maximum winds of 140 mph (225 km/h) and a minimum pressure of 953 mbar (28.14 inHg) about 200 mi (320 km) south of the Isle of Youth, Cuba
Comma after pressure reading NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Delta makes its first landfall near Puerto Morelos, Quintana Roo with winds of around 105 mph (170 km/h)
Comma after Quintana Roo NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Delta makes landfall near Creole, Louisiana with maximum winds of about 100 mph (155 km/h)
Comma after Louisiana NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Delta weakens to category 1 strength inland along the Louisiana coast about 25 mi (40 km) west-southwest of Jennings, Louisiana
Comma after coast NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Delta becomes extratropical over Mississippi and subsequently dissipates
Comma after Mississippi NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Twenty-Seven becomes Tropical Storm Epsilon[91] about 720 mi (1155 km) southeast of Bermuda.
Missing comma on km value NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Epsilon reaches peak intensity with maximum winds of 115 mph (185 km/h) and a minimum pressure of 952 mbar (28.11 inHg) while about 345 mi (555 km) southeast of Bermuda
Comma after pressure measurement NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Twenty-Eight forms from the combination of a tropical wave and a midlevel trough about 70 mi (115 km) southwest of Grand Cayman.
Should be mid-level NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I think I missed it earlier, but link trough (meteorology) on the first mention of trough. NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Epsilon becomes extratropical about 565 mi (910 km) east of Cape Race, Newfoundland and later merges with a larger extratropical low
Comma after Newfoundland NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Zeta makes landfall near Ciudad Chemuyil, Quintana Roo with an estimated intensity of 85 mph (135 km/h).
Comma after Quintana Roo NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Zeta moves offshore of the northern coast of the Yucatán Peninsula about 25 mi (40 km) north-northeast of Progreso.
Comma after Peninsula NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Zeta transitions into a post-tropical cyclone about 25 mi (45 km) south-southeast of Charlottesville, Virginia[102] and later dissipates
Comma after Virginia NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Eta reaches its peak intensity with maximum sustained winds of 150 mph (240 km/h) and a minimum central pressure of 929 mbar (27.43 inHg) about 65 mi (100 km) east-southeast of Puerto Cabezas, Nicaragua
Comma after pressure reading. Also, that's not the peak. Peak intensity is determined by pressure, not winds. NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Modified. Changed to, Hurricane Eta attains maximum sustained winds of 150 mph (240 km/h) and a minimum central pressure of 929 mbar (27.43 inHg), about 65 mi (100 km) east-southeast of Puerto Cabezas, Nicaragua. Drdpw (talk) 21:40, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Eta maintains its peak intensity with maximum sustained winds remaining near 150 mph (240 km/h) and minimum pressure falling to 922 mbar (27.23 inHg)
This could do without the detailed wind portion. NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Modified. Changed to, Hurricane Eta attains its peak intensity when its minimum pressure falls to 922 mbar (27.23 inHg). Drdpw (talk) 21:40, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Eta makes landfall about 15 mi (25 km) south-southwest of Puerto Cabezas with maximum sustained winds of 140 mph (220 km/h)
Comma after Puerto Cabezas NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Disturbance Eta emerges over the Gulf of Honduras
Disturbance is not an official status for a TC. It would be the remnants of Eta or something similar. NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Modified. disturbance → remnants Also, added about 65 mi 100 km) west-northwest of La Ceiba, Honduras. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Disturbance Eta re-develops into a tropical depression east of Belize
Same thing here. How far east? NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Modified. disturbance → remnants and east of Belize → roughly 100 mi (160 km) west-northwest of La Ceiba. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Eta makes landfall about 30 mi (45 km) south-southeast of Sancti Spíritus, Cuba with winds of 65 mph (100 km/h)
Comma after Cuba NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Eta emerges off the north coast of Cuba into the Straits of Florida
Comma after Cuba NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Eta re-strengthens into a hurricane and simultaneously reaches its second peak intensity with sustained winds of 75 mph (120 km/h)[103] about 130 mi (210 km) west-southwest of Fort Myers, Florida
Comma after wind speed NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Eta makes landfall near Cedar Key, Florida with maximum sustained winds of 50 mph (85 km/h)
Comma after Florida NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Depression Theta degenerates to a remnant low and later dissipates
Comma after low NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Iota attains its peak intensity with maximum winds of 155 mph (250 km/h) and a minimum pressure of 917 mbar (27.08 inHg) about 25 mi (35 km) northwest of Providencia Island
Comma after pressure measurement NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Iota weakens to a tropical storm over western Nicaragua[113] about 105 mi (160 km) east of Tegucigalpa, Honduras
Comma after Nicaragua NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tropical Storm Iota weakens to a tropical depression over east-central El Salvador and later dissipates.
Comma after El Salvador NoahTalk 10:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Locations are needed for many of the points throughout the list NoahTalk 02:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:05, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Notes
The remnants of Nana emerged over the Gulf of Tehuantepec on September 4 where they later regenerated into Tropical Storm Julio.
The TCR states the remnants of Nana were responsible for the formation of TS Julio but doesn't state exactly how so. To say they directly regenerated into Julio is WP:OR. NoahTalk 11:00, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Modified Drdpw (talk) 22:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
At the time, the National Hurricane Center did not name the system at that point because it was unclear whether it had a well-defined low-level-circulation.[50] However, with the storm posing an imminent threat to Central America, the National Hurricane Center initiated advisories on the system as Potential Tropical Cyclone Sixteen that day at at 15:00 UTC (10:00 a.m. CDT)
Typo NoahTalk 11:00, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed Drdpw (talk) 22:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
An average Atlantic hurricane season, as defined by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, has 12 tropical storms, six hurricanes and two major hurricanes
Missing Oxford comma NoahTalk 11:00, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed Drdpw (talk) 22:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Pre-SR Source Issues
[edit]Tons of sourcing issues remain. This pertains to outdated operational sources being used when more up-to-date information is in the TCRs. The locations in these need to be adjusted based upon the TCR. I didn't mention this much below, but if the best track doesn't show every status change, you don't mention the ones not shown. Only display the status changes that the TCR has. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hurricane Noah: Fixes and modifications completed. Drdpw (talk) 20:10, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
06:00 UTC (1:00 a.m CDT) at 18.9°N 92.3°W – Tropical Storm Cristobal attains maximum sustained winds of 60 mph (95 km/h),[13] while located about 45 mi (70 km) northwest of Ciudad del Carmen.[14]
Operational sourcing should be removed and location should be adjusted if needed using the method you used for the others. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
12:00 UTC (8:00 a.m. AST) at 39.4°N 62.7°W – Subtropical Storm Dolly transitions into a tropical storm and simultaneously reaches its peak intensity with 45 mph (75 km/h) maximum sustained winds and minimum barometric pressure of 1,000 mbar (29.53 inHg),[15] while located about 370 mi (600 km) south-southeast of Halifax.[16]
Same thing. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
about 430 mi(695 km) southeast of Cape Race, Newfoundland
Not a sourcing issue, but I found this while skimming. Add a space after the miles. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
21:00 UTC (5:00 p.m. AST) at 11.0°N 63.0°W – Tropical Depression Gonzalo degrades to a tropical wave roughly 125 mi (195 km) west-northwest of Trinidad, and then dissipates.[21]
TCR doesnt mention this so this point needs removed. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
06:00 UTC (1:00 a.m. CDT) at 26.5°N 98.5°W – Hurricane Hanna weakens to a tropical storm roughly 30 mi (50 km) northwest of McAllen, Texas.[22]
Needs TCR sourcing/Location adjustment. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
03:00 UTC (10:00 p.m. CDT, August 24) at 29.0°N 89.8°W – Tropical Storm Marco weakens to a tropical depression about 45 mi (70 km) west of the mouth of the Mississippi River.[30]
Same thing. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
03:00 UTC (10:00 p.m. CDT, August 27) at 35.1°N 92.0°W – Tropical Storm Laura weakens to a tropical depression about 30 mi (50 km) north-northeast of Little Rock, Arkansas.[31]
Same thing. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
09:00 UTC (4:00 a.m. CDT) at 16.7°N 88.8°W – Hurricane Nana weakens to a tropical storm about 70 mi (110 km) southwest of Belize City.[35]
Same thing. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
00:00 UTC (11:00 p.m. CVT, September 7) at 16.2°N 22.8°W – Tropical Storm Rene makes landfall on Boa Vista Island with sustained winds of 40 mph (65 km/h) and a minimum barometric pressure of 1,001 mbar (29.6 inHg).[38]
Same thing. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
06:00 UTC (2:00 a.m. EDT) at 25.7°N 80.2°W – Tropical Depression Nineteen makes landfall about 10 mi (15 km) south-southeast of Miami, Florida, with winds of 35 mph (55 km/h).[40]
Same thing. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
05:00 UTC (12:00 a.m. CDT) at 29.8°N 87.8°W – Hurricane Sally intensifies to a Category 2 hurricane about 65 mi (105 km) south-southeast of Mobile, Alabama.[43]
Same thing. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
13:00 UTC (8:00 a.m. CDT) at 30.5°N 87.6°W – Hurricane Sally weakens inland to a Category 1 hurricane about 20 mi (30 km) north-northeast of Gulf Shores, Alabama.[44]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
15:00 UTC (11:00 a.m. AST) at 16.5°N 49.7°W – Hurricane Teddy strengthens to Category 2 intensity about 775 mi (1,245 km) east of the Lesser Antilles.[45]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
18:00 UTC (1:00 p.m. CDT) at 30.9°N 87.1°W – Hurricane Sally weakens to a tropical storm about 30 mi (45 km) north-northeast of Pensacola, Florida.[46]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
21:00 UTC (4:00 p.m. CDT) at 24.3°N 93.1°W – Tropical Depression Twenty-Two becomes Tropical Storm Beta about 280 mi (450 km) east-southeast of the mouth of the Rio Grande.[51]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
00:00 UTC (8:00 p.m. AST, September 21) at 34.6°N 61.4°W – Hurricane Teddy re-strengthens to a Category 2 hurricane about 250 mi (400 km) northeast of Bermuda.[53]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
15:00 UTC (10:00 a.m. CDT) at 28.9°N 96.7°W – Tropical Storm Beta weakens to a tropical depression inland, about 15 mi (25 km) east-northeast of Victoria, Texas.[54]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
00:00 UTC (8:00 p.m. EDT, October 5) at 16.5°N 79.6°W – Tropical Storm Delta becomes a Category 1 hurricane about 220 mi (355 km) south-southeast of Grand Cayman.[57]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
09:00 UTC (5:00 a.m. EDT) at 17.5°N 81.3°W – Hurricane Delta attains Category 2 intensity about 125 mi (200 km) south of Grand Cayman.[58]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
12:00 UTC (8:00 a.m. EDT) at 17.8°N 82.0°W – Hurricane Delta strengthens to Category 3 intensity[56] about (115 mi (185 km) south-southwest of Grand Cayman.[59]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
06:00 UTC (1:00 a.m. CDT) at 23.0°N 91.3°W – Hurricane Delta re-strengthens to Category 2 intensity about 485 mi (780 km) south-southeast of Cameron, Louisiana.[60]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
18:00 UTC (1:00 p.m. CDT) at 28.7°N 93.6°W – Hurricane Delta weakens to Category 2 intensity about 80 mi (130 km) south-southwest of Cameron.[61]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
23:00 UTC (6:00 p.m. CDT) at 29.8°N 93.1°W – Hurricane Delta makes landfall near Creole, Louisiana, with maximum winds of about 100 mph (155 km/h).[62]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
00:00 UTC (7:00 p.m. CDT, October 9) at 30.0°N 93.0°W – Hurricane Delta weakens to Category 1 strength inland along the Louisiana coast, about 25 mi (40 km) west-southwest of Jennings, Louisiana.[63]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
06:00 UTC (1:00 a.m. CDT) at 31.2°N 92.3°W – Hurricane Delta weakens to tropical storm intensity about 15 mi (25 km) east-southeast of Alexandria, Louisiana.[64]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
18:00 UTC {2:00 p.m. CDT) at 33.3°N 90.6°W – Tropical Storm Delta becomes extratropical about 70 mi (115 km) north of Jackson, Mississippi, and subsequently dissipates.[56]
Incorrect bracket used for the 2:00 p.m. time. NoahTalk 19:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
09:00 UTC (4:00 a.m. CDT) at 21.0°N 88.4°W – Hurricane Zeta weakens to a tropical storm inland about 85 mi (140 km) east-southeast of Progreso, Yucatán.[67]
Same sourcing issues. NoahTalk 19:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
15:00 UTC (10:00 a.m. CDT) at 21.6°N 89.5°W – Tropical Storm Zeta moves offshore of the northern coast of the Yucatán Peninsula, about 25 mi (40 km) north-northeast of Progreso.[68]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
06:00 UTC (1:00 a.m. CDT) at 24.4°N 91.5°W – Tropical Storm Zeta becomes a hurricane again about 410 mi (660 km) south of New Orleans, Louisiana.[69]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
00:00 UTC (7:00 p.m. CDT, October 28) at 30.2°N 89.9°W – Hurricane Zeta weakens to Category 2 intensity inland about 10 mi (15 km) southwest of Slidell, Louisiana.[70]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
01:00 UTC (8:00 p.m. CDT, October 28) at 30.7°N 89.6°W – Hurricane Zeta weakens to Category 1 intensity about 25 mi (40 km) north-northeast of Slidell.[71]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
06:00 UTC (1:00 a.m. CDT) at 32.9°N 87.4°W – Hurricane Zeta weakens to a tropical storm about 25 mi (40 km) south-southeast of Tuscaloosa, Alabama.[72]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
06:00 UTC (1:00 a.m. EST) at 14.0°N 82.8°W – Hurricane Eta attains its peak intensity when its minimum pressure falls to 922 mbar (27.23 inHg),[73] about 40 mi (65 km) east of Puerto Cabezas.[74]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
00:00 UTC (7:00 p.m. EST, November 3) at 13.8°N 83.7°W – Hurricane Eta weakens to Category 2 intensity about 25 mi (40 km) southwest of Puerto Cabezas.[75]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
12:00 UTC (7:00 a.m. EST) at 13.8°N 84.9°W – Hurricane Eta weakens to a tropical storm about 90 mi (140 km) west of Puerto Cabezas.[76]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
06:00 UTC (1:00 a.m. EST) at 13.0°N 77.0°W – Tropical Storm Iota strengthens into a hurricane about 295 mi (475 km) east of Providencia Island, Colombia.[81]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
00:00 UTC (7:00 p.m. EST, November 15) at 13.4°N 79.8°W – Hurricane Iota attains Category 2 strength about 110 mi (175 km) east of Providencia Island.[82]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
09:00 UTC (4:00 a.m. EST) at 13.7°N 84.3°W – Hurricane Iota weakens to Category 2 strength about 65 mi (105 km) west-southwest of Puerto Cabezas.[83]
Ditto. NoahTalk 19:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 19:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Image Review
[edit]- Pass IR NoahTalk 10:21, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- All images, including the infobox one, need alt text NoahTalk 23:41, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 09:45, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Instead of saying "a picture", use "A satellite image" and provide a link to satellite image for the first mention. NoahTalk 03:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 09:45, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Paulette, Rene, Sally, Teddy and Vicky 2020-09-14 1550Z.jpg The caption needs to be more succinct per MOS:CAPSUCCINCT. Recommend cutting it off after the bit about the five tropical cyclones NoahTalk 23:41, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 09:45, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Unless the captions are full sentences, periods should not be included. NoahTalk 23:41, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 09:45, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A map plotting the track and intensity of Hurricane Paulette at 6-hour intervals during its September 7–28, 2020 lifetime
A comma is needed after 2020 NoahTalk 03:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Drdpw (talk) 09:45, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Everything looks good now. Thanks, Drdpw! That was a lot. codingcyclone advisories/damages 19:20, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Support from codingcyclone[edit]Alright, there are a few inconsistencies that need to be addressed.
Timeline of events[edit]
Please ping me when this is done, Noah got the rest of the issues codingcyclone advisories/damages 03:37, 18 June 2021 (UTC).[reply] |
@CodingCyclone: @Hurricane Noah: It is finished. Drdpw (talk) 19:05, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TRM
[edit]Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:10, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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*Five para lead is too much per MOS.
That's my first pass. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:46, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Comments by Dudley
[edit]- "The 2020 Atlantic hurricane season was the most active and the fifth-costliest Atlantic hurricane season on record." You should clarify what "active" means here. Number of storms of all type? Number of named storms?
- Clarified. Drdpw (talk) 17:57, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I suggest moving note 3 to the last paragraph of the lead. A reader wanting to clarify (say) the June 9 entry will not know that they have to look at a May 19 note.
- Moved. Drdpw (talk) 17:57, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- You are inconsistent how you show "Halifax" - Halifax, Nova Scotia, then Halifax and then back to Halifax, Nova Scotia.
- Addressed. Drdpw (talk) 17:57, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- It seems inconsistent to use the English Cape Verde for the time zone and Portuguese Cabo Verde for the islands. As this is an article in English, I think English names for places should be used.
- The TL uses Cape Verde for the time zone and Cabo Verde for the islands because that's what the National Hurricane Center uses (which is not to say that Cape Verde couldn't be used for both, however). Drdpw (talk) 17:57, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Perhaps worth mentioning that Subtropical Storm Alpha (2020) was the first recorded cyclone to make landfall in Portugal.
- Such records/distinctions are not typically noted in these TLs. Drdpw (talk) 17:57, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- No change needed but the map shows a storm crossing Ireland and Britain, but I could not see it in the list. Which one was it?
- Those would be Edouard's extratropical remnants. Drdpw (talk) 17:57, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Dudley Miles (talk) 16:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dudley Miles: Thank you for your input. Drdpw (talk) 17:57, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. Looks fine now. Dudley Miles (talk) 18:52, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 01:17, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:50, 18 September 2021 (UTC) [7].[reply]
- Nominator(s): $ufyan (talk) 07:57, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets the criteria and I've created it along the lines of this and this, both of which are FLs. $ufyan (talk) 07:57, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment
The only thing I would suggest (I know you asked for feedback on my talk page and I didn't mention it, but it's only just occurred to me :-P) is that the lead would be better as two larger paragraphs rather than four very small ones......... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:51, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Merged first and second paragraph, and third and fourth paragraph --$ufyan (talk) 13:19, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:25, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Additional Comments
The lead section needs more expansion. Lead section needs more explanatory text and context which summarises the whole list as per WP:NOTSTATS. You may also follow the related articles for the men's teams such as this and this. Moreover, the tables do not meet the manual of style for data tables as per MOS:DTAB. So the rows and columns should be in this format below:
{| |+ [caption text] |- ! scope="col" | [column header 1] ! scope="col" | [column header 2] ! scope="col" | [column header 3] |- ! scope="row" | [row header 1] | [normal cell 1,2] || [normal cell 1,3] |- ! scope="row" | [row header 2] | [normal cell 2,2] || [normal cell 2,3] ... |}
That's what I got on the first pass. Will inform later if I find more issues. For now, please fix these. Thanks. — A.A Prinon Leave a dialogue 04:55, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed table --$ufyan (talk) 09:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Expanded lead --$ufyan (talk) 11:11, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Minor issues
- At the very first sentence- "The New Zealand women's national cricket team represents New Zealand in international women's cricket." The word "New Zealand" is not linked to the country New Zealand.
- Done --$ufyan (talk) 08:17, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "A full member of the International Cricket Council (ICC), the team is governed by New Zealand Cricket."- unsourced. Please add a reliable web page or book through which we can know that New Zealand Cricket is exactly the the governing body of the team. Although it is common and known to all, it is better to add a source.
- I found this article on the ICC website which has the sentence "New Zealand Cricket CEO David White is confident of hosting plenty of men's and women's international cricket during the upcoming summer". Wish I could have added a clearer source, but it qualifies, I guess? --$ufyan (talk) 08:32, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The URL access date on the references are sometimes in the format year-month-date (2021-06-01), while in some refs the format is in DMY (1 June 2021). But the date formatting should be consistent, and DMY is considered to be the suitable one for date formatting. You have to add {{Use dmy dates}} at the top of the page, so that all the dates in appear in DMY format.
- Done --$ufyan (talk) 08:17, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "They recorded their first test victory against South Africa in 1972."- The first letter of the word test should be in capital letter as per WP:CRICSTYLE. Also the same issue is visible in the previous sentence.
- "They recorded their first test victory against South Africa in 1972."- And the word Test is not also linked.
- And the sentence is also unsourced. Please add any reliable source that links to a book or an online site, where the history of New Zealand women's cricket can be found, or any statistical source through which we can verify.
- Done all three --$ufyan (talk) 08:17, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "The New Zealand women's national cricket team first competed in 1935 when they played England in a single test at home." => "The New Zealand women's national cricket team competed in international cricket for the first time in 1935 when they played against England in a one-off Test at home."
- Done --$ufyan (talk) 10:24, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "New Zealand played their first Women's One Day International cricket (WODI) match against Trinidad and Tobago in the 1973 World Cup, which they won by 136 runs." => New Zealand played their first Women's One Day International cricket (WODI) match against Trinidad and Tobago in the 1973 World Cup, in which they won by 136 runs."
- "They won the match". "They won in the match". I think the former is more correct, although I'm not a native speaker of English.--$ufyan (talk) 08:21, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @$ufyan: - I am a native speaker and I can confirm that "They won the match" is definitely correct and "They won in the match" is not -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:28, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Not done, then --$ufyan (talk) 08:46, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @$ufyan: - I am a native speaker and I can confirm that "They won the match" is definitely correct and "They won in the match" is not -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:28, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "They won the match". "They won in the match". I think the former is more correct, although I'm not a native speaker of English.--$ufyan (talk) 08:21, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "As of May 2021, they have played 36 Test matches against four different opponents—Australia, England, India, and South Africa."- Here 36 is in numbers, while four is in words. Please use both in words or in numbers. The same issue is in the second paragraph.
- Not done per MOS:NUMERAL. It's not inconsistent because they are not comparable values. I'm trying to avoid making the lead full of numerals, impairing readability.
- "They have been most successful against England, with 35 wins." => "They have been most successful against England, by winning 35 times against the team."
- Done (Added "They have been most successful against England, winning 35 times against the team.")--$ufyan (talk) 10:58, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "Since their first Women's Twenty20 International (WT20I) against England in 2004, New Zealand have played 133 matches." => "Since their first Women's Twenty20 International (WT20I) match against England in 2004, New Zealand have played 133 WT20I matches."
- Done --$ufyan (talk) 08:17, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
— A.A Prinon Leave a dialogue 06:08, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Great Job! You have fixed all within a short span of time. And two comments which you opposed me were really my mistake. (Sorry for that). Thanks. — A.A Prinon Leave a dialogue 07:28, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you :) --$ufyan (talk) 11:28, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
I only see a few small issues...
- I would suggest writing the website in source 1 as International Cricket Council or ICC instead of www.icc-cricket.com
- Don't swap between ESPN Cricinfo and ESPNcricinfo, and don't swap between italicized and non-italicized text for those sources. (It doesn't really matter what you choose; just make it consistent.)
— RunningTiger123 (talk) 17:24, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I assume the above is a de facto source review. Courtesy ping for @$ufyan:. Aza24 (talk) 20:24, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @RunningTiger123: I have tidied these up, thanks. Harrias (he/him) • talk 08:39, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- One more thing I noticed: source 14 from The Times needs
url-access=subscription
. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:36, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]- @RunningTiger123: Good spot, done. Harrias (he/him) • talk 07:03, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- One more thing I noticed: source 14 from The Times needs
- Support – RunningTiger123 (talk) 14:13, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TRM
[edit]Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 09:27, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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*Lead image caption is a fragment and doesn't need a full stop.
That's it from me. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 09:40, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because the 2020 year of cue sports was severely damaged, with only the bare minimum of events being held. Whilst there was only a handful of pool and billiard events held, the World Snooker Tour was mostly uninterupted, with most events continuing albiet postponed. Please see 2018 in cue sports and 2019 in cue sports, which are both FL. I welcome any thoughts on how to improve this page. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments by Kavyansh.Singh
- Every table needs a caption (although 2 tables have); I would suggest adding captions to all, with SR only template.
- Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Fix the disambiguation link in the lead (Masters)
- Whoops, good catch. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Suggesting you to link all the websites/news organizations, etc. in the citations (like Sky Sports, Union Mondiale de Billard, etc.)
- I dislike linking to work organisations, so I don't do it in any article I work on. My understanding is that this simply needs to be consistent. Let me know if I have accidently linked some. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Fair enough; I don't see any links to work organizations (didn't checked thoroughly) – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 13:42, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I dislike linking to work organisations, so I don't do it in any article I work on. My understanding is that this simply needs to be consistent. Let me know if I have accidently linked some. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Images – The only image in the article is suitably licenced (CC-by-sa 4.0), and the article has ALT text. I see no issues. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd usually try and wingarm some more images into it, but there were so few events, it was a little difficult. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Lee Vilenski – That's all I got, maybe you can fix them. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for taking a look Kavyansh.Singh! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Lee Vilenski – Thanks for fixing all the issues (though, there weren't many) in a short period of time. I doubt whether writing date as "February 20 – 22nd" is consistent in the article. Rest seems fine to me, and I support this list for promotion as a Featured List. Great work! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 13:42, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for taking a look Kavyansh.Singh! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- "professional tournaments surrounding table-top cue sports." - the word "surrounding" looks a bit odd here. Why not simply "in table-top cue sports"?
- The lead has three consecutive sentences that start "The snooker season.....the season....the season". Any way to mix this up a bit?
- "The season featured events being played in January and February before tournaments being discontinued" - there's definitely something up with the grammar here - "being" doesn't look right there
- "The other Triple Crown events, the UK Championship and Masters were won" - need a comma after Masters to close off the clause
- "There was just one event, the Treviso Open, with an event for both men and women" - event/event - maybe change the second one to competition or tournament?
- "For the event, (m) refers to men' and" - missing s after the apostrophe
- "Non-ranking event" - events, surely, as there are four entries in the table?
- THat's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:16, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for taking a look ChrisTheDude, I've covered all of these. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm still seeing "The year featured events played in January and February before tournaments being discontinued for all disciplines", which doesn't make grammatical sense..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:25, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- ....also "an tournament for both men and women" should be "a tournament", but it's also occurred to me that "a tournament for both men and women" suggests that it was a single tournament which everyone could enter. Maybe "with tournaments for men and women"? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:27, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- No issue Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:29, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- ....also "an tournament for both men and women" should be "a tournament", but it's also occurred to me that "a tournament for both men and women" suggests that it was a single tournament which everyone could enter. Maybe "with tournaments for men and women"? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:27, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm still seeing "The year featured events played in January and February before tournaments being discontinued for all disciplines", which doesn't make grammatical sense..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:25, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for taking a look ChrisTheDude, I've covered all of these. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "The year featured events played in January and February before tournaments being discontinued for all disciplines, and the World Snooker Tour returning in June without an audience." - the grammar in this sentence still needs to be fixed
- "with a tournaments for both men and women" => "with tournaments for both men and women"
- I also just noticed (apologies for not spotting this before) that there's inconsistent use of spacing around the dashes in date ranges.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:06, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- This should be covered now. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:49, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- That tricky sentence in the lead still wasn't right, but I just fixed that and am now happy to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:53, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- This should be covered now. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:49, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments from MWright96
- "These events include snooker, pool disciplines and billiards. Whilst these are traditionally singles sports, some matches and tournaments are held as doubles, or team events." - repetition of "events"
- Reworded Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:05, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "The snooker season runs between May and April, whilst the pool and billiards seasons run in the calendar year." - repetition of the word "run(s)"
- Reworded Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:05, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "Cue sports events were played in January and February, before tournaments were discontinued for all disciplines due to the pandemic, with events returning in June without an audience." - repetition of the word "events"
- Reworded Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:05, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Consider using the date table sorting template in the date(s) column in each of the relevant tables
- "For the event, (m) refers to the men's and (f) to the women's tournament." - think there is a word missing after the word highlighted in bold
- Reworded Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:05, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "The World Snooker Tour generally begins in July and ends in May, however due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the 2019–20 snooker season ended in August," - needs to be verified by a reliable citation(s) since none of this is mentioned in the WST source used after this sample of text
- added a cite Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:14, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "whereas the 2020–21 snooker season begin" - spelling error
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:05, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "Ronnie O'Sullivan won his sixth World Snooker Championship, defeating Kyren Wilson in the final." - needs to be verified by a reliable source
- Added source from table Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:05, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "Judd Trump defeats Jack Lisowski 10–7" - past tense, please
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:05, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Please be consistent in how the works/publishers in the references are presented. For example, there is a mix of World Snooker as either in the work field or in the publisher field
- Should now be all as website. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:14, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Reference 39 ""Challenge Tour 9 (2020) - snooker.org" - the hyphen should be replaced by an en dash per MOS:DASH
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:05, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Reference 44 "Results (Belgian Women's Open 2020) - snooker.org". - same issue as above
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:05, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That is all I found on a first pass MWright96 (talk) 10:21, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Should be all done now. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:14, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Did you have anything more for me MWright96? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:57, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Lee Vilenski: The Data table sorting template will need to be used for the dates in each of the three snooker sortable tables so that the dates can be sorted in the correct order MWright96 (talk) 12:50, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- This should now be up to date MWright96 Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:42, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Lee Vilenski: The Data table sorting template will need to be used for the dates in each of the three snooker sortable tables so that the dates can be sorted in the correct order MWright96 (talk) 12:50, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Did you have anything more for me MWright96? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:57, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nothing more from yours truly :) MWright96 (talk) 14:06, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TRM
[edit]Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 17:58, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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*Tables should use row scopes as well as col scopes.
Just a quick jaunt through, that's what stuck out to me. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 10:33, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Comments from BennyOnTheLoose
[edit]I'm a bit late to this, so not much to add.
- "Whilst these are traditionally singles sports, some matches and tournaments are held as doubles or as teams" is unsourced.
- Added a cite. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "the pool and billiards seasons is played over the calendar year." is unsourced
- reworded. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "the pool and billiards seasons is played" - "the pool and billiards seasons are played"
- Same as above Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "The year of 2020 included professional tournaments in table-top cue sports." Seems slightly odd phrasing to me, would something like "Professional tournaments in table-top cue sports took place in 2020." be better? Not a required change.
- Changed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- " returning in June without an audience." - isn't this specific to professional snooker?
- It's a generalisation, to say that professional cue sports returned. Whilst we only list snooker events, there were some minor cue sports events that also took place post pandemic. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "the only professional world championship held during the year," is unsourced - is this because it summarises some of the article content?
- That's right Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Presumably the English Amateur Championship is excluded by the list criteria, but the 100th staging of the oldest tournament in Snooker took place in 2020.
- Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:54, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The intro text ends with a comma, how about adding that it was the 100th staging? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Food idea, done. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:26, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The intro text ends with a comma, how about adding that it was the 100th staging? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:54, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Pool: "encapsulates" - I'll again defer to people with better language skills, but how about "encompasses"?
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Pool: "The only major international pool competition that took place during the year was the Mosconi Cup played in December." - not supported by source, IMO.
- It's more of a summary of the info, I could remove the cite? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think there's a source that verifies "The only major international pool competition" at the moment, either remove or add a source. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Removed and reworded. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:26, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think there's a source that verifies "The only major international pool competition" at the moment, either remove or add a source. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- It's more of a summary of the info, I could remove the cite? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Euro Tour: "The Euro Tour is a professional nine-ball series run across Europe by the European Pocket Billiard Federation." is unsourced
- sourced Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:54, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Euro Tour: "There was just one event" - how is this verified by the source?
- How doesn't it? I have fixed the url though. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, I'm happy to accept that the source lists all Euro Tour events. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- How doesn't it? I have fixed the url though. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Billiards: David Causier, not "David Cauldier"
- done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Women's Events: No introductory line, unlike other sections.#
- added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:30, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I have covered the above BennyOnTheLoose/. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:54, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Happy to Support now. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:46, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi @FLC director and delegates: , is there anything more I need to do with this nomination? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:18, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- It looks like we still need a source review here. I'd do one myself, but I don't have much knowledge about what cue sport sites are reliable sources. I've listed it as needing a source check, and hopefully one of the regular reference reviewers will quickly take care of it. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:10, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 01:16, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:13, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I feel that these types of lists on United States presidential elections have a great potential to be FL, and promotion of this list would help me in modifying 50 other similar lists. I almost completely re-formatted the list, added a lead, and key for political parties. It lists all the elections in which the state of Utah participated, with votes and percentage. I intend to make similar changes to all the lists within this series. I would respond to every comment, and try to bring this nomination to FL standards whenever needed. With one of the list (United States presidential elections in Arkansas) currently a FLC, with multiple supports, I nominate this too. Check this page for progress. Thanks! (48 states + Washington D.C. more to go) – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:13, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from HAL
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That's all for now. Nice work. ~ HAL333 19:22, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- Assuming that that is addressed, I am ready to support. ~ HAL333 18:58, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Thank you! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 03:04, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from ChrisTheDude
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@ChrisTheDude – Thanks. I have addressed all in this edit. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:57, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:39, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TRM
[edit]Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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*"No. of elections" no need to abbreviate number here, there are other fields which are wider.
That's it on a quick run-through. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:03, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Support from Reywas92
[edit]- Winner and Runner-up are singular, but Other candidates is plural. I think just saying 'Third place' without the note is a also doable. Otherwise it seems nicely consistent with Arkansas so support. Reywas92Talk 15:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I have addressed this issue in this edit. Thanks for your support. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:41, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source review
[edit]The reliability and formatting of the references look okay throughout, and the link-checker shows no issues. The source review has been passed. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:20, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 03:27, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note for FLC director and delegates – The nomination is kept open for almost a month. With three supports and a passed source review, "Is there a consensus for promotion of this nomination?" – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @FLC director and delegates: – "Is there a consensus for promotion of this nomination?" – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:25, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Kavyansh.Singh: Please don't do this. The way FLC is run, whenever one of the delegates has the time we run through the nominations that look likely to be closable, starting with the oldest, and review/close however many we get through in the time we have available. Whether a nomination is closed in a given pass depends on many things, and is not just a simple "3 supports + a source review" check. There are many reasons why a nomination may stay open for a time after getting 3 supports, some of which have nothing to do with the quality of the list or of the reviews. We recognize that it can be annoying to have to wait, especially when a list is part of a series and the delay is holding up the next nomination in line, but it doesn't make the process faster to poke at us- we want nominations to get closed quickly too, so the pings don't have any beneficial effect.
Promoting. --PresN 14:46, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:44, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it is complete. The World Snooker Championship has run for almost 100 years, and the list is well cited and covers all the winners, locations and tournaments. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:44, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments from MWright96
- "and is chronologically the third of the three Triple Crown events of the season since 1977–78," - some words are missing at the end of the word highlighted in bold
- Sure. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikilink knock-out tournament format to the appropriate article
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Think it might be appropriate to include the name of the oldest and youngest world champions and include the ages they were when they set those records
- The first table is missing the scope="col" in the columns
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Every single one of the players names in the winner and runner-up columns in the champions table need to made sortable like this Joe Davis|ENG}} etc.
- Due to the way we have both links and a template, I'm planning to use data-sort-value="" instead. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I have now done this. Must admit, it was a bit odd typing Ali Carter, Peter Ebdon, Graeme Dott, Rex Williams all more times than Neil Robertson! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:20, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Due to the way we have both links and a template, I'm planning to use data-sort-value="" instead. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The multiple champions table can be made sortable and the players' names can be sorted with the template mentioned in the above point
- Done. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The key for the second table might be better off placed above not below
- Moved Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The source to verify Mark Selby's WSC victories needs replacing with a more up-to-date citation mentioning all four years he won the title
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- An extra source is needed to verify that Alex Higgins died on 24 July 2010 since the 1982 The Guardian source won't contain that fact since it was printed 28 years before the fact
- Added obit. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The first note "Due to World War II" needs an full stop to complete it
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Notes D and E are duplicates of each other and can be merged to create a single one
- Combined. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Reference 10 "Professional Snooker". Billiards and Snooker. No. January 1964. the Billiards Association and Control Council. p. 13.)" does not need the closing bracket at the end of it
- No worries. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Reference 18 "Higgins beats Trump to win title" is missing the date it was published
- Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Similiar problem with Reference 20 "Williams wins world title for third time"
- Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Same issue with Reference 21 "Then and Now: John Spencer"
- Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That is all I found on a first pass MWright96 (talk) 17:29, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I've covered everything for now, MWright96. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Lee Vilenski: One further point: "because of World War II or between 1958 and 1963 due to declining interest." - please clarify whom had a loss of interest in a World Snooker Championship that caused the event to not be held from 1958 to 1963 MWright96 (talk) 13:53, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Clarified Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:53, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Lee Vilenski: I have just noticed each of the ten images in the champions section are lacking alt text MWright96 (talk) 06:56, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I have added some alt Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 22:23, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Lee Vilenski: I have just noticed each of the ten images in the champions section are lacking alt text MWright96 (talk) 06:56, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I've covered everything for now, MWright96. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Nice work MWright96 (talk) 06:20, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Drive-by comment (will come back for more later)
- In the key, the two rows for knock-out tournament don't have symbols, and the colours are pretty much completely indistinguishable (at least to my ageing eyes) so there's no way to differentiate between them in the table -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:41, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I've added a more vibrant colour that I nicked from WP:COLOUR. I'm pretty bad at knowing what looks good, so hopefully this covers your fears. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:41, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Further comments
- Per MOS:AMPERSAND, the ampersands in the image captions should be replaced with the word "and"
- "The most successful player at the World Snooker Championship was Joe Davis" => "The most successful player at the World Snooker Championship is Joe Davis"
- World Snooker Championship wikilinked twice in very close succession under the Champions heading
- There's a stray double curly bracket on one of the 1965 rows
- In the Multiple Champions table, why is there "hover over" text on the country names which simply repeats the country name?
- Note a is not a complete sentence so doesn't need a full stop
- Think that's all I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:11, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I have covered these ChrisTheDude. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:17, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- One actually hadn't been changed, so I fixed that and am now OK to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:28, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I have covered these ChrisTheDude. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:17, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source review – Pass
[edit]Comments below. Aza24 (talk) 21:14, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Version reviewed: [11]
- Formatting
- You link Everton in ref 11 but not 1, would recommend both
- I've unlinked both. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- You should probably run this on your list; up to you whether you want to convert ISBN 10s to 13, but at the least they should all be dashed correctly
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- It's a little odd to have the work for ref 2 but then the website for ref 3 when they're both news sources—presumably some link to BBC news should be included in the latter (and in ref 16)
- I've gone through and made everything consistent. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- presumably "Snooker.org" should be in a parameter that italicized it, like the other websites you've cited
- As above Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Hmm, for ref 9, you might consider physically bundling the refs, such as in Taylor Swift refs 127 and 159. This is certainly optional though
- I could, but we use some of the refs in other places, I'd rather do this, than duplicate a ref Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Guinness Superlatives vs Guinness Superlatives Ltd
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- formatting for refs 7 and 15 is different even though they are the same site
- They are the same site - now. But not when they were accessed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Reliability
- Seems fine in general. Sources that might not be considered the highest quality are citing only statistical information.
- Verifiability
- checked a few, no issues. Aza24 (talk) 21:14, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi Aza24, just to check, were you happy with the above? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:11, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the ping, I seem to have missed this, pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 17:39, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi Aza24, just to check, were you happy with the above? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:11, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Dank
[edit]- Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
- All this is assuming MWright winds up supporting; I'll check back.
- Even though the first table is only meant as a key, I've added {{sronly|Format}}.
- Cheers. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:01, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I think I'd link Camkin's Hall to Bill Camkin#Camkin's Hall.
- I don't really want to fix that redirect. There is a likelyhood I will make an article for Camkin's Hall one day Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:01, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- In the "Multiple time Snooker World Championship winners" table, the Ref column should be unsortable. It wouldn't bother me if the Status column were unsortable, but if you're going to make it sortable, it shouldn't give the wrong chronological sort order.
- I've made refs unsortable. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)
- Otherwise, looking at the FLC criteria:
- 1. You've got solid prose supports; that works for me. The coding at the top of the tables seems fine. I checked sorting on all columns and sampled the links in the tables.
- 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
- 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
- 3b. The article is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
- 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
- 4. It is navigable.
- 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
- 6. It is stable.
- Close enough for a support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 01:25, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TRM
[edit]Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 17:58, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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*"The World Snooker Championship Trophy" trophy doesn't need capitalisation.
That's all I have. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:43, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): - Dank (push to talk) 23:32, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The three other lists in this series have received extensive reviews, and there are no unresolved issues that I know of. There are a lot of pointers to fun history-of-science tales here. Enjoy. Pinging Tim riley, per his request. - Dank (push to talk) 12:11, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support and a few comments from Tim riley
[edit]Precious little from me. My few gleanings:
- I notice that though you give some people's nationalities you are not consistent. I don't mind greatly, but consistency is on the whole a good thing. Why, for instance, is Pierre Ambrunaz Quézel outed as being French, but Edouard Prosper Quesnel, who precedes him, stateless?
- And if you are going to include people's places of origin I think you might decide whether to label those from this sceptred isle as either "English"/"Scottish" on the one hand or just "British" on the other. At present it's rather pot luck.
- You are also – and again I am not objecting vehemently – inconsistent with your indefinite articles: thus, Philippe Sergeant, a French monk and botanist followed by Joseph Serrurier, Dutch doctor.
- Fixed all three, I think. - Dank (push to talk)
- I don't think Berlin should be blue-linked chez Schefflerodendron (WP:OVERLINK, you know).
- The only link I see on Berlin is for Dahlem (Berlin) ... I've changed it to Dahlem, Berlin. - Dank (push to talk)
- Perhaps you should add that Lord Bute was PM of Great Britain. (You tell us where George Washington was president of, after all.)
- Done. - Dank (push to talk)
You will gather from this modest collection of minor quibbles that I can't find anything of consequence to complain about. I have no intention of withholding my support for the elevation of this scholarly article to join its siblings at FL. It seems to me to meet all the criteria, and is a surprisingly good read into the bargain. I doubt if anyone will read it without a smile of recognition at some point or other. Excellent stuff! Tim riley talk 16:19, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The only people I identify as British (Joseph Snowden, Dennis Stanfield, James Tennant and William Treutler) are identified that way in these sources ... and Burkhardt generally will say English or Scottish if she can, so my guess is that she didn't know (and she generally makes an effort to find out). That's not too surprising; many people who named genera gave us no clue at all who they were referring to ... they may have thought it was obvious then, but it's not always obvious now ... and when they did, they sometimes picked people about whom little is now known. The only one of these mentioned in another Wikipedia (Spanish Wikipedia) is Tennant, and he's identified as English there, but I think they mean that he worked in England (at Kew). Similarly, Quesnel is stateless because no state is given in these sources. But I can do more checking if you like. - Dank (push to talk)
- Good God, no! I raised the point for your consideration and you've considered it. Tweak or not, as seems desirable to you. Tim riley talk 18:36, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Kind, supportive, thorough ... just what I expect from a Riley review. Thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 18:24, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The reviewer reviewed! Thank you for your nice comments. (And while I'm here, Edgar Quinet, in the article, reminds me that my favourite restaurant in all Paris is in the Boulevard Edgar Quinet. I shall raise a glass to your four articles when next there.) Tim riley talk 18:36, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Other reviews
[edit]- Support - I got nothing :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:52, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source review – Pass
[edit]Comments below. Aza24 (talk) 22:19, 16 August 2021 (UTC) Version reviewed: [13][reply]
- Formatting
- No issues, per usual/past similar lists
- Reliability
- No issues, per usual/past similar lists
- Verifiability
- No issues, per usual/past similar lists
- Heh, rather routine now, isn't it? Pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 22:19, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Boring is good. - Dank (push to talk) 22:42, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by Dudley
[edit]- namesakes. I don't think this word is strictly correct. OED says namesake means the same name, not a revised form of a name.
- Partially done in these edits. That's probably as far as I can go, but I'm open to giving it more thought. (I left "namesake" in the column heading; in such a tight space, I can't think of an acceptable substitute, and the word seems to be supported by other dictionaries.) - Dank (push to talk)
- What tight space? Why not 'Person genus is named after'? This is clearer than namesake. Dudley Miles (talk) 16:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. No objection, but I need more input on this. - Dank (push to talk) 18:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- In modern works, would it be helpful to distinguish between books and websites?
- I've substituted "Plants of the World Online" for the two citations to "POWO".
- A first rate list. Dudley Miles (talk) 09:46, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. Good to see you here! - Dank (push to talk) 15:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Dudley Miles (talk) 19:36, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Dudley Miles, that doesn't work as well in the next list, and I'd like to be consistent, so I'm going with "Person
referencedhonored" (American spelling), if that works for you. - Dank (push to talk) 20:35, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 14:46, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator(s): Birdienest81 (talk) 09:48, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating the 1984 Oscars for featured list because I believe it has great potential to become a Featured List. I followed how the 1929, 1979, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 ceremonies were written. Please keep in mind that because this ceremony happened earlier than in recent ones that I did, the format of how I configured this list may look slightly different than others. Birdienest81 (talk) 09:48, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:11, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:12, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments from Kavyansh.Singh
- I see that links in the sources are not consistent. Some newspapers like The Times-Picayune (Ref#12), Akron Beacon Journal (Ref#22) ,and Indianapolis News (Ref#23) are linked, while rest are not linked. I'll suggest to either link all, or remove link from all.
- Fixed: Linked the first mention of newspapers for each reference.
- Some of the bibliographies like Franks 2005, Jones 1999, and Pond 2005 are not used as citations. I'll suggest moving them to Further reading section.
- Fixed: Removed unused bibliographies since they were most likely holdovers from another ceremony, and I forgot to remove them.
- Gene Allen is linked twice in the prose. First in the "Winners and nominees" section, second in the "Ceremony information" section.
- Fixed: Delinked Gene Allen in the ceremony information section.
- Suggesting to archive all the references (though some already are)
- Fixed: Archived all references
- I see that various news citations doesn't have link. Although not a major issue, I'll suggest adding these links to the article so that the reader could access them.
- Oscar Nominations Are Due – Ref#7
- The Oscar Winners for 1984 – Ref#17
- Gullible Viewers Hooked Again By Tedious Academy Awards – Ref#27
- Unrewarding: Oscar Show's Bright Spots Few and Far Between – Ref#28
- 'Endearment' Wins Oscars as Best Picture – Ref#31
- Sure They Drag, but The Oscars Are Always Fun" – Ref#32
- First-Round Emmys Presented: Moyers' 'Walk,' J.F.K. Special Honored – Ref#36
- Fixed: Added links from above to respective references. I also indicated that the sources were retrieved using Newspapers.com.
- @Birdienest81 – Maybe you can fix these issues. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 08:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Kavyansh.Singh - Done: I have addressed all the comments and responded to them by making the necessary corrections.
- --Birdienest81 (talk) 03:17, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @uBirdienest81 – All my concerns are addressed, and the list looks and reads fine. I support this list for promotion as a Featured list. Great work! I'll appreciate your comments on FLC of United States presidential elections in Arkansas, which I do intent to make a series of 52 articles! Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 03:28, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- --Birdienest81 (talk) 03:17, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Kavyansh.Singh - Done: I have addressed all the comments and responded to them by making the necessary corrections.
Comments from HAL
[edit]by Academy president Gene Allen and Mickey Rooney
--> Maybe reverse order or add "actor" or "entertainer" for clarity.
- Fixed: Added "actor" before Mickey Rooney.
- "award ceremony" and "awards ceremony" are used in same context. Standardize.
- Fixed: Made "award" into plural so that it now reads "awards ceremony".
- Add comma after "With four wins"
- Fixed: Added comma after said phrase.
- This image would work well under "Special Achievement Academy Award". If it's too much of a pain to replace the Spanish, don't worry about it.
- Fixed: Added image to Special Achievement Award section.
- I would move the Carson image to the left so he faces the text.
- Fixed: Moved Johnny Carsons's image to the left.
the five Best Picture nominees at the US box office was $151 million with an average of $30 million
The average gross is kind of obvious imo. Maybe remove?
- Fixed: Removed the average gross figure.
He also added
Remove "also". It implies that this was the second time he added.
- Fixed: Removed the word also between He and added.
American telecast on ABC drew in an average of 42.1 million people over its length
Average over what period? Clarify.
- Fixed: Changed over its length" to "Over the length the broadcast"
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and Parasite have since equaled this record with four wins apiece
Maybe add years in parentheses.
- Fixed: Added years in parentheses to respective films.
- Not anything you can fix, but The Right Stuff really should have won over Terms of Endearment.
That's all. Nice work. ~ HAL333 18:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @HAL333: - I've addressed your comments above, and I have made changes accordingly.
- --Birdienest81 (talk) 02:47, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Happy to support. ~ HAL333 01:30, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- --Birdienest81 (talk) 02:47, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source review – Pass
[edit]Will do soon. Aza24 (talk) 21:21, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Version reviewed: [15]
- Formatting
- There's some inconsistency in using the "Citation" template vs "cite book" which is making the formatting different throughout the Bibliography
- Fixed: Changed "cite book" to "citation" template per previous ceremony lists.
- Locations are inconsistent, sometimes you have just city; sometimes city and state; and sometimes state and country
- Fixed: Reformatted locations for consistency.
- "Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS)" vs just "Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences"
- Fixed: Removed AMPAS acronym since it is redundant.
- not sure that ref 21 is really a PDF
- Fixed: Removed PDF indication.
- Reliability
- seems okay
- Verifiability
- No issue. Aza24 (talk) 21:21, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Aza24: - Done: I've addressed all the comments above and have made changes based on them.
- --Birdienest81 (talk) 03:05, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 03:13, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TRM
[edit]Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:04, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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*" Los Angeles beginning" I would put a comma before beginning.
That's it on a first pass. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 08:26, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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— RunningTiger123 (talk) 05:06, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Support – another great job with this list. RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:27, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 14:45, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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