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What is a third-party source: The Case of Opera News Nigeria

Are Opera News sources reliable, independent, fact-checking enough to be cited in Wikipedia draft?Nwachinazo (talk) 08:34, 31 January 2021 (UTC) Nwachinazo (talk) 08:34, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

If you mean this "Opera.com site introduction in 2019"., Nwachinazo, the answer will be "NO" as the site states it is for bloggers from Nigeria. As such, this is entirely a user-generated site with no editorial oversight. Wikipedia does not consider such sites a reliable source. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:14, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Now, you have clarified my thought. I have removed such from my article Draft:Nyerere Ogbonna. Glad to hear that Opera News is a news blog.Nwachinazo (talk) 15:31, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Adding a person and his NON governmental non profit philantopic organistion

please I need help adding a notable person and his organisation here. he is a medical doctor by profession and he runs an NGO that helps the poor in Africa with medical bills amongst others. he is has a large following on social media. if we can communicate via email that will be really helpful. please I really need help with. I will grateful for any help provided Rileydanerd (talk) 15:54, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Rileydanerd Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. A person merits a Wikipedia article if they receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources that have chosen on their own to do so, showing how the person meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. The same goes for organizations, which must be shown to meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable organization. Social media followers are not usually relevant. Wikipedia is not for telling the world about good works; we're just here to summarize what independent sources say. If that's something you are able to do, you may submit a draft using Articles for creation. You may wish to read Your first article.

If you are associated with the person or organization, please read about conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 16:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I would add that most Wikipedia business should be conducted on Wikipedia, for openness and transparency. 331dot (talk) 16:02, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Concerned about what reads as a very POV article

I mostly focus on WP:HED and recently ran into Symington W. Smith who someone had just pruned off King's College London's alumni list, with a relatively pointed edit summary. I was making sure they were right to remove them given the person had an article so may be notable enough.

Whilst the sources for the article seems to (maybe¹) be sufficient for notability, the extent of the coverage and the detail which seems at times to exceed the given source coverage², I find quite concerning. I have tried to remove the WP:SPS from the article which were behind some of the stronger claims, and tagged it with a few clear concerns, but am unsure if this is too far/not far enough, given it reads right now as a great personal advertisement.

Am I being too harsh on the article, and if not, to what extent should it be pruned and sorted out?

Note 1: I'm not sure if it is, as most of the WP:RS coverage seems to focus on their parents?
Note 2: It might just be picking up details I couldn't find that are hidden in cited long, mostly irrelevant, news articles

Thanks! Shadowssettle _{Need a word?} 16:27, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Adhering to policy

Hi all, I created an account in here many years ago to add content to the page on Dame Vera Lynn (now deceased June 2019). Dame Vera kindly became our patron and we were asked to update her page on Wikipedia accordingly. We did but it seems I broke a policy(s), although I am unsure what policy(s) were broken, I do not wish to make that same error.

I wish to add the term "Moccasin Approach®", not to Dame Vear's page, but to ensure that the term is present on Wikipedia. My concern is that whilst I am doing this for what I believe are the right reasons, I am reluctant to just go ahead as I clearly upset some policy enforcement through my earlier transgression.

The Moccasin Approach® is registered in both the UK and the US. It is in reference to an Emotional Intelligence approach when communicating with others. It was the focus of my master's degree in 2017 which I completed in 2019 (Middlesex University London UK - Professor Brian Sutton).

I would really appreciate some guidance on how to proceed if in fact I am permitted to, as my account flags up in red too I can only assume this is because of my transgression all those years ago).

Thank you very much for your time.

Regards

Mac Mac Macdonald (talk) 10:04, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Mac Macdonald Your User name was showing up in red because you had no content on your User page. What you had put there in 2019 was not allowed for User pages, hence deleted. I put a few word there, to turn it back to blue. You should delete what I added and replace it with a brief description of your intentions as a Wikipedia editor. Your Sandbox is a place you can work on creating an article. David notMD (talk) 11:40, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

From your website https://www.lapd.solutions/ it is clear that you developed and trademarked "Moccasin Approach." It appears that other people - not connected to you or your business - have not written/published about your endeavor. For this reason, it cannot meet Wikipedia's concept of notability. WP:PAID and WP:COI also apply. David notMD (talk) 11:52, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Mac Macdonald: Just to expand a little... When, back in 2010 you made this edit the problem was that we don't accept external links to organisations within article content, only within references. It would have been better to have made that statement, supporting it by a reliable reference to an independent source, or including the latter within an inline citation at the end of the sentence as a reference. I see the latter approach to citing the flowforall.org website is now present in the article, but I can't check it for accuracy as my browser reports the site is unsafe, with a dubious security certificate - so I'm not prepared to go there to check. I did notice that your userpage was also deleted around the same time - the policy broken there was one of putting in too much promotional material about yourself and your organisation (see this page for gudance on what is not allowed on userpages. Further up that page, you'll see what we do permit.) As David says above, you can't add your 'Moccasin Approach' concept to Wikipedia because it is a non-notable term that you appear to have created, which hasn't been noticed in any significant way or been written about by the world at large. Until it is, it just remains a neologism, which has no place on this encyclopaedia, I'm afraid. See WP:NEOLOGISM for policy more detail. I hope this explanation helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you all for your advice/comments, but think I will give Wikipedia a miss, but a sincere thank you for your time. All the best, Mac. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mac Macdonald (talk • contribs) 16:52, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Writing articles on new mathematical discoveries

Hello everyone, Thank you tremendously for inviting me to Teahouse. I had one doubt in my mind: Are we allowed to write articles on new mathematical formula which is oroved in paper and calculation but not yet published in any journal or paper? Also, how can we use mathematical equations in articles? Does wikipedia support LAteX files or other format? Looking forward to hear from you. Regards Bipin Bhaskaran Nair Bipin Bhaskaran Nair (talk) 16:27, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia is more interested in whether it has received coverage other than by its creator/discoverer. Most academic research is considered a "primary source." Much more useful would be discussions of this in general-interest/layperson science/math magazines or non-science/math reliable sources such as "news magazines" or newspapers. Without such coverage, it might not be considered "notable" as Wikipedia defines the term. WP:Your first article might also be useful.

As far as math, please view the "source" for articles that use math formulas. Help:Math may also be helpful. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:56, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Club 20

Hello amigos! Im approaching my first 20 years at Wikipedia, my anniversary officially (I had done articles without being a member for about 2 weeks prior) on September 17, 2022....I was just wondering is there a list of wikipedians who have been working for 20 years? And if there isn't, should we have one?

Also, this being a Teahouse, how come we don't have a coffee house, perhaps a Starbucks, which I absolutely love!!?

Thanks and God bless you! Antonio Starbucks Addict Martin (Dimelo!) 08:33, 29 January, 2021 (UTC)

AntonioMartin, well we have a Ten-Year and Fifteen-Year Society. I'm not sure if there's a twenty.... but you can make one if you wish! There could also be a redirect from Wikipedia:Coffee house to here. God bless you too! GeraldWL 08:09, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Geraldo Luis! Sorry for the late reply! Antonio Hooked on Wikipedia Martin (tell the loser here) 12:18, 1 February, 2021 (UTC)

@AntonioMartin: Note: WP:Fifteen Year Society and TYS mentions and Bruce The Deus' logo for it: File:Twenty Years Society (2019, square edit).png.

I remember a discussion somewhere about the term coffeehouse having a somewhat different connotation in some places (e.g., the Netherlands). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 19:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

haha Alan...Iwant to go to an Amsterdam coffee house! (its on the red light district, right?) Antonio Red Light District client Martin (tell the loser here) 12:21, 1 February, 2021 (UTC)

hello everybody. If you create the twenty Year Society, I will be so honored to see my logo used 😊.--Bruce The Deus (talk) 17:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Indeed, Bruce, we shall if we do...(I hope me or someone else does it anyways) Antonio Pediaddict Martin (tell the loser here) 12:22, 1 February, 2021 (UTC)

Images for the UK Internal Market Act Article

Hello

I was pointed in your direction for some advice on what sort of images would be right for the article UK Internal Market Act 2020. I thought some maps, graphs and images of debates in parliament would be good.

For example I thought the graph of trade in this article would be a good inclusion https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/trade-uk-internal-market

I'm new so I not sure about the rules around copyright etc about getting images (so far I'm just using ones already on wikipedia)

Thanks! 80.42.39.51 (talk) 11:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC) 80.42.39.51 (talk) 11:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor. The article in question (United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020) is about the Act itself, not about UK trade. Hence in my opinion the graph about UK trade should go in a more relevant article (such as Economy of the United Kingdom), if anywhere. You are correct that copyright will be an issue for any image and that those already stored on Wikipedia Commons are fine for a start. You should discuss additions to articles on their Talk Pages, if you are unsure what warrants inclusion. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:50, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Michael. I take your point on the article being about the act rather than the market, so perhaps a new article specifically on the UK Internal Market would be appropriate to focus on the trade and economics as opposed to the legislative history and impact of the bill? thanks again 80.42.39.51 (talk) 18:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

How to Correct Misleading Information

I had a worse experience today when I wanted to update the information of my Director. Firstly I am not getting PAID to update his information, its just that I WORK as an Asst. Director with him.

There are information which are incorrect and few references are added from unrecognised blogs and bot links. how can we correct the ENTIRE Article?

We further have an official website and all relevant information to justify the information which we provide. Kindly guide us in the right way to make wiki articles a source of Genuine Information. Thotanthillaya (talk) 16:10, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

First, if the person is your direct supervisor in your employment situation, you are considered a "paid" editor by Wikipedia even if you were not told to edit Wikipedia. The financial conflict of interest is just unavoidable.

But back to your question: Read WP:Conflict of interest and WP:Paid-contributions disclosure, the details should be there. The short answer is to use the Template:Requested edit template on the TALK page of the article in question.

Disclaimer for the benefit of Teahouse readers: I have been one of the editors reverting major undiscussed edits by Thotanthillaya. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:51, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Davidwrl, Will use that feature and try to resolve the conflict and for the benefit of Teahouse Readers, We just provided FACTS and sadly few editors dont have the sense to go thru them in the right spirit but we will not give up and try to make wiki a clean source of verified information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thotanthillaya (talk • contribs) 16:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Thotanthillaya. If you are employed by the subject of an article, then you certainly meet Wikipedia's criteria for being a paid editor, whether or not it is specifically part of your job to do so. You must make the declarations explained on that page.

Secondly, you also have a conflict of interest, and should not edit the article, but may make edit requests on the article's talk page.

Thirdly, Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. Information which is to be found only on your website is unlikely to be appropriate for Wikipedia's article about him. (It may be used a source for a limited range of information: see Primary sources). Generally we require citation to independent sources. --ColinFine (talk) 17:00, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Thotanthillaya: Also, be careful using the term "we" - each editor is responsible for his or her own edits, and "shared" accounts are not allowed. You can say "My company has asked me to..." or "On behalf of my company I want to..." but when you say "we" it makes it look like more than one person may be using the account, which can only lead to trouble. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:04, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a Lot Team now this is actually helping me to understand how exactly Wiki works. Definitely I will provide the updated links under the Editing Talk Section of the Page in question. Hope this will clear all OUR concerns and lets work together to resolve the misinformation. Happy that the team is active and supportive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thotanthillaya (talk • contribs) 17:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Team, I have updated the Talk Section in the page as suggested, Many Thanks for the assistance. Thotanthillaya (talk) 17:35, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Thotanthillaya: I suggest you make one suggestion at a time, using {{request edit}} and providing a reliable independent source. When some editors see a dozen paragraphs, they find it overwhelming and move onto other things. GoingBatty (talk) 18:26, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Images on Wikipedia

Hi, I wanted to put pictures of Tati Westbrook, Jodie Comer and Clare-Hope Ashitey on their respective pages. All of the pictures got rejected because they weren’t licensed. How do I get licensed pictures to go on their pages? KaitlynneLimberg (talk) 17:56, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

You typically can't unless the copyright owner releases them under a Wikimedia-commons-compatible "free" license. Copyright owners of commercially-valuable photos are unlikely to do so unless they see that it is to their advantage.

That said, Wikipedia does allow non-free images to be used under very specific circumstances. See WP:Non-free content criteria for details. However, for public figures who could be plausibly photographed by you or another editor, this exception almost never applies unless the photo you are trying to use looks significantly different than the current person. For example, a photo of a person who was a public figure a generation or more ago who is either no longer making public appearances or who looks significantly different might qualify for an exception, but a current-day celebrity who makes public appearances where photography is allowed almost certainly would not. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:30, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@KaitlynneLimberg: There are additional suggestions at Wikipedia:Image use policy. GoingBatty (talk) 19:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Where to report bugs?

I have come across a couple of bugs in templates.

• I have used the template {{User lives in|England}} in my user page where it forms part of a table. In order to get the table to display correctly, I had to add </td><td> after the template to start a new cell, instead of just putting ||. This still happens when I remove the England parameter (and live on Planet Earth). It does not occur for any of the other four userboxes I currently use. I assume this is a bug in the template, but I have no knowledge of template programming and the source code is very discouraging.
• @Ira Leviton kindly corrected the punctuation in three {{cite book}} entries on a page I created, where a stray comma had been left after the publisher's address. As far as I remember, all three were created by using the cite book template, entering the ISBN, and accepting whatever it returned. Obviously, in future I shall keep an eye on the punctuation that it leaves lying around. I am wondering, though, if this is a problem with the cite book template, or with the Wikidata content on which (I assume) it relies?

I left a note on Template talk:User lives in and on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Userboxes about the first error. I'm at a loss about reporting the second error. Is there somewhere I could/should report this sort of problem?

Verbarson (talk) 19:54, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Verbarson as far as I know "cite book" content comes from the worldcat.org database. The technical village pump is a good place to discuss such issues. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Roger. And it has pages of instructions on how to report a bug! --Verbarson (talk) 20:14, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Please help - draft is ready to be moved onto Wikipedia

Re: Draft: Nicholas Jennings

Hi. I have completed the draft for an article on Author Nicholas Jennings and wish to move it to the main Wikipedia page. I believe it is currently in my Sandbox. How do I accomplish this?

Thanks for any assistance. Octopus69 (talk) 21:06, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Octopus69, welcome to the Teahouse, I did move your draft into the Mainspace as requested. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you CommanderWaterford Octopus69

This doesn't look remotely ready for mainspace, what happened to submitting for review? Theroadislong (talk) 21:16, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Looks like it's been moved to draftspace. The use of the image in the infobox is dubious, as I don't think whoever shot the video released it under appropriate licences for use on Wikipedia, and as far as I'm aware YouTube doesn't do that either. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:43, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, there was some confusion because the author itself moved the draft also into a namespace Wikipedia: and I thought there was consense of the author and the reviewer of moving it into mainspace but sure it is not ready for it in its current state. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Sent to Draft:Nicholas Jennings. David notMD (talk) 21:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Question for title

I am currently creating a new article for a visual novel called WorldEnd Syndrome. There is some confusion about its title as the publishers website refers to the game as World End Syndrome but the actual software of the game is titled WorldEnd Syndrome. My question is How could I resolve this confusion?

P.S. Thank you for answering my question as I am still rather new to editing/creating on Wikipedia Vessel of Domination (talk) 21:56, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Vessel of Domination Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Articles are typically titled with whatever the most commonly used name for a topic is, as used by independent reliable sources(which is what all articles summarize). If most independent sources use one title or the other(with the space or without), you should go with that. If it's unclear from independent sources, I personally might default to what the publisher itself calls the novel. 331dot (talk) 22:03, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Move IP edits onto this account?

I made a number of edits and created an article as an IP before making this account.

I can demonstrate that the IP in question is mine.

Is it possible to get the contributions log for that IP reattributed to this account? It also includes some notes on talk pages for edits that I think should be done at some point. Intralexical (talk) 02:42, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

It's impossible to reattribute IP edits to those of an account, and I'm fairly certain it's impossible to merge the contributions of two accounts as well. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 03:04, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

but you can say on your User page that those edits were yours, if you like Intralexical. --ColinFine (talk) 14:41, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the info folks. I'm not sure I want to publicly associate an IP I've used with my account (that's actually a reason to want to reattribute those edits), so I guess that's that. Intralexical (talk) 22:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Is my draft encyclopedic enough to get published?

Hello, I recently came across Tex Earnhardt article and noticed that the company he built that got him to prominence does not have an article so I decided to start writing one. Here is the draft I recently submitted for review: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Earnhardt_Auto_Center . Please do let me know if this is an acceptable article for publishing or not. I used most of the references from Tex Earnhardt. Thank you very much. AlikotoSam (talk) 22:13, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

AlikotoSam Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. In looking at your draft, I'm not sure that you have established that the company merits a separate article from that of its founder. For the company to merit an article, there must be independent reliable sources about the company itself, not just its founder, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. 331dot (talk) 22:17, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your quick response. Yes there are independent sources on the company itself which have also been used on the founder's page. And since these sources were not flagged, i thought they would be equally good for the company's as well. Thank you.--AlikotoSam (talk) 22:21, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@AlikotoSam: I'm going to have to agree with 331dot. After doing a quick Google search, I'm not seeing much coverage of the company in independent third party sources. You'd be better off creating a redirect to Tex Earnhardt#Earnhardt Auto Centers, and merging any substantial info there. You can also consider putting the infobox in that section if you wanted to. If eventually there was enough coverage to demonstrate notability, you could then do a content fork and turn the section back into a standalone article on the redirect page. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:35, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

TimTempleton thank you very much for your input. I do not have a lot of experience with what you have suggested. I think I would need help getting that done. thank you very much.--AlikotoSam (talk) 22:40, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@AlikotoSam: I just created a redirect for Earnhardt Auto Centers. I initially also put the infobox in the article but then deleted it. It was unnecessary - all the info that is in the infobox is already in the company's short section in that Tex Earnhardt article. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:50, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

TimTempleton thank you very much for this. Hopefully an article gets created for the company some day.--AlikotoSam (talk) 22:56, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Saving Incomplete Drafts?

I mentioned earlier that I'm currently creating a new article however I will not be able to finish mu article in one sitting how do I go about saving the incomplete draft.

P.S. Thank you for your time. Vessel of Domination (talk) 22:46, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: you can build it in your sandbox until you are ready to move it to draftspace. You access the sandbox by clicking on the sandbox link on the top menu. Save frequently. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:52, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

And/or you can save it to a text file on your computer. -- Hoary (talk) 22:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

And/or start it in draftspace. Reviewers won't look at it until you append {{subst:submit}} to it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Reference Type and Reference Quotes

I've noticed that when I use the visual editor's automatic citation feature it often chooses "cite website" over "cite news". I almost exclusively use references found by searching Google News and was wondering if the automatic citations are wrong or whether Google News sources are just not always considered news by Wikipedia.

I was also wondering what the proper usage of the "quote" field is when making citations. I assume quotes are necessary most of the time so when is it appropriate to use and if I have a source being referenced in multiple places and a quote isn't relevant to both should I make a separate reference? Also it says something about including punctuation and I was wondering whether this meant that quotes should always include full sentences. Additionally, how big or small of a quote is acceptable? And do standard quotation rules regarding changes to the quotations apply (i.e. using ... to omit content and using [example] to add content)? TipsyElephant (talk) 20:26, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

TipsyElephant, my understanding of Cite news/doc is that the distinction between Cite web and Cite news would be of no importance (and indeed of no consequence whatever) for Google News (whereas it would be if, say, you were citing the NYHT via microfiche). Quotations aren't necessary most of the time, but they can of course be helpful. "Featured articles" have been subjected to the greatest amount of effort and criticism (some of it beneficial), so you might look through the list of these to find articles about subjects similar to your own, and examine how quotations have been dealt with there. (If it matters: I never use the visual editor.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:15, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Picture upload?

can I upload the box art of a video game on wikipedia commons? Vessel of Domination (talk) 00:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

No, because Commons does not accept non-free media. A video game's box art is generally going to be under full copyright to the company producing or publishing the game. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 00:20, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Image upload?

FYI

 – Merging with above. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:31, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

On all video game pages there is a box art picture in the template. How do I add a picture of a box art?

Thank you for your time Vessel of Domination (talk) 00:24, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry I was not being clear my question is for example on the legend of zelda: breath of the wild page there is a box art in the template for the article I'm making i need to add a box art image not currently on wikipedia how would I add a box art to the template like other game pages?

Thank you for your patience — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vessel of Domination (talk • contribs) 00:35, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: Box art can be used on Wikipedia under fair use, but the files would have to be hosted on Wikipedia instead of Commons. There's more information in the link I provided, but a big portion of it is making sure the proposed image satisfies the 10 free use criteria, such as using low-resolution images under the criterion "Minimal usage". Other, more savvy editors can provide more detailed guidance. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: You can use the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard, which will guide you through the fair use questions. GoingBatty (talk) 00:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Vessel of Domination. Do you want to upload the box art to use in an article that already exists on Wikipedia or to use in a draft for an potential article that you're hoping some day will exist on Wikipedia. As Tenryuu posted above, Wikipedia does allow certian types of copyrighted content (e.g video game box cover art) to be uploaded and used in article as Wikipedia:Non-free content, but there are lots of restrictions placed upon the way that such files can be used. One of these restrictions is non-free content use criterion #9 which states that non-free content may only be used in the article namespace. So, if you want to upload the file to use in a draft for an article that you're trying to create, you should wait unitl the article has been created before doing so as explained here. On the other hand, if you want to upload the file for use in an already existing article, then it will be easier for someone to help you if you can provide a link to the article or at least its name. The The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild article you mentioned above already has an image being used in the main infobox for primary identification purposes; so, it doesn't seem to need another one. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Next steps?

Was wondering about the next steps about the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Akhil_Maheshwari. Do the writers need to do anything else? Jhuma1971 (talk) 01:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

First, the draft has many, many hyperlinks in the body of the article. Not allowed. Second, the article is way over-Wikilinked, to the point that it looks like a sea of blue. The Biography and Faculty positions sections have no refs. Last, there is far, far too much detail about his research projects. I am aware that you have done hundreds of edits on this draft, but the truth is, is that it is far too long, too detailed. Wikipedia articles are not CVs. The Academic work section should be cut by more than 2/3. The article is supposed to be about him, not the science. David notMD (talk) 01:31, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Additionally, Jhuma1971, (i) certain aspects of the draft suggest to me that you should read the Plain and simple conflict of interest guide; and (ii) your writing also suggests that "Jhuma1971" is more than one person: is this so? -- Hoary (talk) 02:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jhuma1971. Did you take File:AM 122620b.jpg yourself? You uploaded to Commons as your "own work", but the file's Exif data is suggesting that what you uploaded is actually a scan of a photo or an edited version of a photo, and not the original photo data typically found when a photo is taken with a digital camera. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:00, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft question

If a draft is declined is it possible to submit it for review again? Vessel of Domination (talk) 05:53, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Vessel of Domination, yes. But for it to be accepted, the reason for declination previously must be addressed, and the article must show criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia. GeraldWL 05:56, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Vessel of Domination. There's no restriction placed on the number of times a draft can be submitted for review, but as Gerald Waldo Luis points out, you shouldn't keep submitting the same declined version over and over again. If it appears to some administrator that's all you seem to be doing, then not only is the draft likely going to end up deleted, but you might also find yourself being formally warned or even blocked. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:26, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Alignment?

How do I align text vertically in a template? For Example

JP: August 30, 2018 US: May 2, 2019

When I save the template it default to horizontal how would I remedy this.

Thank You Vessel of Domination (talk) 06:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion: Don't worry about layout, templates, and so on. Instead, concentrate on writing informative, well-referenced text. But:
JP: August 30, 2018
US: May 2, 2019
(If you view the source, you'll understand. With the "visual editor", I have no idea.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Just going to add that the templates {{Unbulleted list}} and {{Bulleted list}} can also be used for something like this and they can be used as part of another template (e.g. an infobox template); you just need to be careful to make sure the syntax is complete and correct. As Hoary points out though, this kind of thing is going to have nothing to do with whether any draft you're working on is ultimately accepted as an article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:29, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: If you make a question more specific, e.g. naming a page or template, then we can often give better answers. You created Draft:World End Syndrome after Hoary answered. It uses Template:Infobox video game where the template documentation says to use {{Video game release}}. Your example would be {{Video game release|JP|August 30, 2018|US|May 2, 2019}}. It also adds links to the countries:

• JP: August 30, 2018
• US: May 2, 2019

PrimeHunter (talk) 08:59, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Who do I talk to about translations?

I have edited a translation that needed cleanup because it was vandalised, however, I am not sure that it still needs the cleanup translation tag/box at the top anymore. Who do I talk to about this? Shma.altheeb (talk) 10:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Shma.altheeb, thanks for your work and welcome to the Teahouse. I in the meantime removed the translation tag but you could have done it on your own, of course, too. CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Major protect is needed

Hi, I recently heard about the coup d'etat in neighboring country Myanmar. Sorry to hear that. But there have been vandalism attacks on the articles of the coup leaders Myint Swe (general) and Min Aung Hlaing with many accounts. Please prevent vandalism attacks ! I'm very tired to revert vandalism edits. VocalIndia (talk) 10:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

And for the interested, there's 2021 Myanmar coup d'état. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Struggling to spot bias

Hi there! I've just submitted my first page to Wikipedia, and someone has kindly reviewed it but noticed a few biases in the opening section. I can't see them myself, so I wondered if anyone had any suggestions of what I need to look out for?

Very green to all this, but the page is still a draft so I don't believe I can share it?

Thanks for any help you can give! Cathywhitebcn (talk) 08:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Cathywhitebcn: certainly you can share your draft. It's at Draft:Beth Singler. Maproom (talk) 09:19, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Maproom: Thanks Maproom! Can you spot any biases in that opening section that I can edit out? Draft:Beth Singler Cathywhitebcn (talk) 09:28, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cathywhitebcn: The issue is rather minor I would say. I believe it is primarily the word "our", as that suggests that the reader is included in a group. It's a term used widely in journalism, but not really fit for an encyclopedia, especially in conjunction with "hope and fear" ("... artificial intelligence; our understanding of it as well as our hopes and fears ..."). I would thus suggest rewording the sentences that include "our". Then I would point to this MoS supplemental, but really I feel you have adhered to 95% of this already. --LordPeterII (talk) 10:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I tweaked the lead. You decide if by too much. David notMD (talk) 10:11, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Cathywhitebcn, minor thing: punctuation before ref. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:16, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Cathywhitebcn correcting ping Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:17, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Question: Three books listed, but at two you describe her as "contributor." The refs do not mention her as a co-author or chapter author. For this reason I challenge those mentions. David notMD (talk) 12:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

"My Lists" Tab.

On my mobile devices I have a "My Lists" tab with which I have compiled lists of articles that I can refer back to. The mobile devices sync with each other so the lists are kept up to date. I can find no sign of this feature on the PC version (Windows 10). My question, of course, is whether this feature is available on the PC? Bluemonk9a (talk) 12:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Bluemonk9a. As far as I know it's not available in the same way it is in the mobile app. According to this page there's a browser plugin for desktop that allows pages to be added to the lists, but seemingly not accessed from desktop. More info here. Zindor (talk) 12:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

deletion of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lord_of_Little_Stambridge_Hall

Hi, if it would be possible could this page(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lord_of_Little_Stambridge_Hall) be deleted as the evidence and sources at the present don't amount to be much. many many thanks. EvWills (talk) 09:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello EvWills! I think you should use the WP:Miscellany for deletion process for this. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång, i'm tempted to tag this as G7 and ask for salt. As far as I can tell this user is the main contributor, just with perhaps an undeclared alt (previous del request, section 170) and some i.p usage. Is there something I'm missing, I don't do a lot of tagging. Regards, Zindor (talk) 10:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

WP:G7 added by EvWills fits even better, both will probably work. I'm unaware of any WP:SALT need, but that doesn't mean there isn't one. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. It seems it's being added to MfD but as of yet no entry page. Zindor (talk) 10:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Gråbergs Gråa Sång I think I have flagged it up on the MFD now. with regards to the above what is WP:G7 and WP:SALT?. many thanks for all your help EvWills (talk) 11:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

EvWills, the Mfd looks ok to me, I commented there. Well, you could check the links you just included..? ;-) Basically, WP:G7 is what I should have recommended, it's a specific "Delete this page I made" process. Live and learn. It would have saved you a little effort (less to type), but the end-result will hopefully be the same. WP:SALT afaict doesn't apply here, it's when an admin makes it impossible to create an article with a specific title. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:50, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

How to get my first wikipedia Page published

I was asked to take up to get our product's page to be published on the wikipedia. Can you let me know what are the aspects i need to do inorder to publish my wiki page created and published online.

Regards, Praveen Circulus1 (talk) 13:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it's clear that you have a conflict of interest. Simply, don't attempt to create any such page (or "article", as it's usually called). Please read this. -- Hoary (talk) 13:35, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Circulus1, a few things;

1. You must disclose your relationship with the company on your userpage immediately, see WP:PAID and WP:COI
2. We have articles, not wiki pages. Articles can be edited by anyone at any time - you will not own the page
3. Your company and its products will almost certainly not meet the notability criteria that we have for articles. See WP:GNG, WP:NCORP. If a subject is determined not to meet the notability guidelines I have mentioned, its article will be deleted.
4. The use of Wikipedia for advertising and/or promotion is forbidden

Before you even think of starting a page, see the above. Thanks, Pahunkat (talk) 13:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Declaration

I just added a declaration on the top of my contribution. Is it sufficient to satisfy the Wikipedia and Wikimedia requirements? Ggae1885 (talk) 19:50, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Ggae1885 Right idea, sort of, but wrong place. Your description of your relationship to the subject of Draft:Rita Asfour belongs on your User page and/or on the Talk page of the draft, but not at the draft itself. Please move your NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE accordingly. David notMD (talk) 20:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I followed your instructions and added my notice to both my user and talk pages. Is this okay? If not, what else do I have to do? Is what I am typing right now the proper way to communicate with you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggae1885 (talk • contribs) 22:58, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Ggae1885, your communication method is fine (we're loose here), and it's now better. However there are some errs. You stated that "All the material I will publish in this article is owned by me", which per the policy WP:OWN is contradictory to our spirit. You should know that all content (yes, even your replies here) on Wikipedia are licensed under Creative Commons. If you are ready to publish content from the website here, you must state in the website "Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply", so that admins on Wikimedia Commons can have an easier time. You can remove the fourth and sixth line in the notice. GeraldWL 03:07, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ggae1885: Since you asked: Please sign your messages on discussion (talk) pages by adding a space and four tildes to the end of the last line of your message, like this:

This is the last line of the message. ~~~~

The four tildes will be automatically converted to a signature that contains your linked username and a timestamp, which helps readers understand who said what.. Thanks! —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 14:42, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

New to Wikipedia editing

Google Indexing / Page verification Hi hope everyone is well. The wikipedia page for Usman Wazeer was indexed by google and had a knowledge panel but now it has been removed for some reason and also that i have cited the page for Usman Wazeer yet it still has not been verified. I am new to editing so please could someone guide me please. THANK YOU. AhmadKhan518 (talk) 11:11, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunately I do not understand your request. (For example, what is a "knowledge panel"?) Google will index pages according to its own inscrutable algorithms; we can do little to influence this. Meanwhile, the article Usman Wazeer is problematic: entire paragraphs have no references, meaning that the reader has no reason to trust these paragraphs. I suggest that you add reliable sources to this article instead of worrying about Google. -- Hoary (talk) 13:16, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hoary, Google knowledge panel is something like this. But adding to your answer, we really can't help with this request. It has no connection with Wikipedia. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 13:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello AhmadKhan518, please see WP:PAID, WP:COI. You must disclose your relationship with the subject on your userpage. This diff's edit summary makes me concerned about COI/paid. Also, is more than one person using this account? Pahunkat (talk) 14:53, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Captcha

It makes me type a captcha after nearly every edit and it's very annoying. Can you help me please? SanctimonyDuplicityBiting (talk) 08:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi SanctimonyDuplicityBiting, welcome to the Teahouse. Your account becomes autoconfirmed after four days and ten edits. Then you don't have to enter a captcha when you add external links. You could add multiple external links in the same edit until then. The "Show preview" button shows what the page will look like if you save. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:06, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi PrimeHunter. Outstanding! I am teatotaled by your response. You answered my question and told me how I might circumvent the issue for the time being. You are a top notch Teahouser. Thank you!SanctimonyDuplicityBiting (talk) 09:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

SanctimonyDuplicityBiting, I feel ya. Captchas are stupid. Life is easier without them. GeraldWL 14:24, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Especially when they rely on recognising street furniture in a foreign country. --ColinFine (talk) 15:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I always fail at recognizing what is considered a "street sign" for them. GeraldWL 15:12, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Commonwealth of Dominica

The Commonwealth of Dominica is a former "realm" of Queen Elizabeth II and is not mentioned as such 98.13.234.248 (talk) 14:57, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I presume this is about our article Dominica, which has a considerable amount about the history of the island. If you think there is something missing, you are welcome to edit the article, or if you are not sure how to, to post on its talk page Talk:Domenica. Remember that all information should be sourced to a reliable published source. --ColinFine (talk) 15:16, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

edit/elaborate on references and citations

Is there a way to edit/elaborate on citations that are already in place. If so, how?

 Fredlin82! (talk) 15:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fredlin82: Yup! In most cases VisualEditor will let you click on that reference and add/change the parameters. Alternatively, you can go into edit source and hunt down that reference using Ctrl + F. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 15:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

User name change

Can you tell me how to change your user name? Thank you PlanetPllc (talk) 15:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

PlanetPllc You may make a request at Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. 331dot (talk) 15:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Protect a page

How to protect an article page? AGNIHOTHRI123 (talk) 16:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

AGNIHOTHRI123 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You may request the protection of an article at WP:RFPP. Articles are only protected for certain reasons, like vandalism, edit warring, or other disruption. They aren't protected merely to keep others from editing them. 331dot (talk) 16:42, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

What to do when another user receives an incorrect vandalism warning?

Hi, I recently responded to an edit request from an IP user frustrated their good faith (and correct) edit was reverted, with a vandalism warning on his talk page for his troubles. I know these kinds of incorrect warnings can be very frustrating and discouraging for new users (I've gotten a similar incorrect warning, see the discussion here), so I was wondering if there's anything that can be done (or I can do) to remove or at least help remedy these warnings when I see them? Thanks. Volteer1 (talk) 15:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Volteer1: There is no 100% correct procedure for this, but it is usally a good Idea to start a discussion with the reverting editor (in this case @Paul Vaurie:) and make them aware thereof. Other than that, what is usally done is to remove or strike the warning, and (in this case notify the reverted editor to use edit summaries) Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I read the edit backwards! I thought he changed it to Bayern. Sorry about that. Paul Vaurie (talk) 16:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Paul Vaurie: All good! Don't worry about it :) Volteer1 (talk) 17:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

world paper money with pictures and pick's numbers

 71.251.161.240 (talk) 17:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm afraid you will need to clarify your question further so we can help you :) AdmiralEek (talk) 17:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

State legislatures

All 50 states have state legislatures. State legislative elections have been held and new members and leadership have been elected. Unfortunately, nearly 3 months after the election, significant updates have not been done. A lot of information is out of date. So Will any concrete step be taken to update the house and senate pages of all 50 state legislatures? Regards, Ppt2003 (talk) 13:43, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Ptp2003 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, where people do what they can when they can, based on what interests them. If you would like to see particular work done, I invite you to pitch in and lend a hand. Requests of others to update articles are rarely effective. 331dot (talk) 13:56, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi Ppt2003. As I expect you may know, Wikipedia has no central authority that monitors gaps and dispatches editors to fix them. Rather, Wikipedia is entirely a volunteer project, whose editors edit what interests them. In the absence of such central organization, we can only hope some volunteer like you notice a gap and decides to roll up his or her sleeves to fix it. I mean that earnestly. Since you are the one who noticed this gap, and you appear concerned it exists, you are likely one of our the best bets for filling it. Nevertheless, we do have Wikiprojects that may have aspirations for addressing gaps and doing such updates you are here about. So, one tack you can take is to go to articles on state legislatures, look to the talk pages to see if there's a Wikiproject that has proclaimed it within its ambit, and post to that Wikiproject's discussion page about this. I took a look for New York, and found Wikipedia:WikiProject US State Legislatures (which appears to me to be the most centralized place to post about this issue globally), as well as Wikipedia:WikiProject Capital District and Wikipedia:WikiProject New York (state). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:03, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey Ppt2003 I updated Arizona's state legislatures. Their isn't a lot of Wikipedians that are interested in state legislatures or making their districts. Like Fuhghettaboutit said, you are more than welcome to fill it. Dillon251992 (talk) 17:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Links in a Template?

First off I want to apologize needing to ask this many questions because I do not know anything about coding. In a prior question I asked how to align vertically well I figured that out now I would like to know how you apply links to something like this US: May 2, 2019

Nevermind I resolved it

Thank you for your time Vessel of Domination (talk) 18:24, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Website Change, Editing to a Wikipedia Page

The website for author and broadcaster Walter Harris (1925-2019) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Harris_(author) has been moved from a .co.uk domain name to a Wordpress.com free hosting, https://walterharrisauthorandbroadcaster.wordpress.com The content is exactly the same as the previous website. It is a static archive of the individual's oeuvre, not a blog. When I attempted to update the details on the Wikipedia page, I received a warning that the free Wordpress.com site is flagged as potentially not allowed. May I request an exception in this case, as this is not a blog or a self-promoting free site, but an official archive of a deceased author and broadcaster who mixed with many well-known very famous individuals. If I may add the new website address, how do I request the exception, so this, and my future editing contributions are not curtailed? Thank you in advance. Sea Pipit (talk) 14:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Your edit to Walter Harris (author) appears to have worked, Sea Pipit. However, unless somebody finds and adds the independent sources about him that are required to establish notability, the article is likely to get deleted. --ColinFine (talk) 15:23, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I am new to Teahouse so I hope this reply reaches you ColinFine and many thanks for your reply. The page is showing the obsolete .co.uk website as I didn't want to update it to the wordpress one without asking for advice, hence my question. I wish to add the Obituary for Walter Harris, https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2019/07/02/walter-harris-author-broadcaster-interviewed-celebrities-bbc/ to help with notability yet I am unsure how to edit for additional references. It is important not to lose this page. Walter Harris interviewed many, many people, famous, infamous and fashionable names, worked for the BBC and CBC and I am keen to add supporting links and references to prevent the page being deleted in error. Any advice hugely appreciated. Apologies in advance for any incorrect use of TeaHouse. I wasn't sure where to enquire. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sea Pipit (talk • contribs) 15:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Sea Pipit: You could add the obituary in an External links section or use it as a reference. I suggest you post the URL and your suggestions to the article talk page: Talk:Walter Harris (author), so you can work with other interested Wikipedians to improve the article. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:21, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@ColinFine and @GoingBatty thank you both for your help. I will have to explore how to use the talk page for Walter Harris. It's a learning curve for me (isn't everything) so I hope I can submit stuff quickly so Walter's page is not deleted. His interviews are a treasure trove, being an eclectic mix (Noel Coward, Gerald Durrell, Stephen Ward just before the Profumo Affair, the list is too great to list here...)Sea Pipit (talk) 19:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sea Pipit (talk • contribs) 18:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Question by Tektramp

Hello. I created an article with credible secondary sources, such as Flying Magazine, Air Progress, NASA online government reports, and published speed records, but the subject of the Article was deemed not "Notable" enough. The subject's record breaking aircraft has it's own Wiki page that has been up for years created by other other authors, but the subject is denied a separate article even when there is significant secondary coverage. I'm new to Wikipedia and I have no idea what's going on. Thank you--Tektramp (talk) 15:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC) Tektramp (talk) 15:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:August Thomas Bellanca David notMD (talk) 15:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Tektramp: It seems to me that Bellanca is only known for his involvment with the Skyrocket II. In this case, Bellanca should be mentioned at Bellanca Skyrocket II instead of creating a separate article. His patents aside from the Skyrocket II are not covered in secondary sources and don't contribute to notability. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 15:50, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you to David notMD, and Ganbaruby!. I hope this is how to reply to answers in Teahouse. If not please let me know what I'm doing wrong.Tektramp (talk) 19:23, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

What to do when someone creates new accounts to remove sourced info from an article?

Please look at Chad Johnson (television personality). There is an account, DaddySaurus, that is removing sourced info. There is another brand-new account, AnnaliseSIDEMAN, that is also removing the same sourced info, and apparently is a reference to both my username, and the woman that was involved in the abuse with Chad Johnson. I don't know how to proceed. The DaddySaurus account has also made legal threats, in their edit summaries, and their talk page. Please help. This is more than I know how to handle. Wes sideman (talk) 18:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC) Wes sideman (talk) 18:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

User:DaddySaurus indefinitely blocked for making a legal threat. The account AnnaliseSIDEMAN may be a sockpuppet of DaddySaurus, so will need to be watched if any new content deletion edits show up at Chad Johnson. The only funny part about this brou-ha-ha is that back in October, DaddySaurus was adding unreferenced content about Chad doing porn to a Bachelorette article, so seemed odd that four months later was insisting on removing the same content from an article about Chad. David notMD (talk) 19:26, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Seems to me there's a non-zero chance that the account is actually THE Chad Johnson, and he was promoting his still-nascent porn career when it started. If my guess is correct, it stands to reason that he may regret that decision and is now trying to scrub it from Wikipedia, along with the arrest info. Thank you for the help on this. Wes sideman (talk) 19:29, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

How do I undo a redirect? Follow-up to My article was removed! Please Help!

Hello, I was able to retrieve my article that was redirected by another editor after I moved it from my sandbox. Can someone advise me on how to undo the redirect? I'm working on it in my sandbox to expand it and make it better and give it more solid sourcing. Do I need to remove the old citations and re-enter the citations? Any other suggestions? RegardsCheryl Fullerton (talk) 00:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC) Cheryl Fullerton (talk) 00:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Cheryl Fullerton: I think you're referring to A Thousand Pictures, which now redirects to Craig Chaquico. You can go to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=A_Thousand_Pictures&action=history and undo the last edit, and then move it to Draft:A Thousand Pictures so you can continue working on it. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:49, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I moved it back to my sandbox but I didn't undo the last edit. Should I redo? Thank you for your help!Cheryl Fullerton (talk) 00:58, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Cheryl Fullerton: I don't see the article at User:Cheryl Fullerton/sandbox. Your sandbox now redirects to Craig Chaquico. My suggestion above stands. GoingBatty (talk) 01:13, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

[[User:|GoingBatty}} I followed your instructions, but I think I did something wrong. The article lost all the formatting it had previously. I hate to be a pest, but Going Batty, you seem to have a better understanding of the techy part of Wikipedia and if you can guide me a little, I might be able to get it right. I undid the redirect which appeared to be the last edit. Was I then supposed to publish then copy and paste to the Draft? Any help is most appreciated.Cheryl Fullerton (talk) 19:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Crediting Question?

This question is a bit confusing but for the page I am making I want to credit the author in the template however having watched the credits for the game about six times now there is no one credited with writer. Instead the game has this Authored by Arc System works and TOYBOX or later in the credits it says scenario by Tomio Kanazawa. I'm at a loss on which I should use or should I not put Writer in the Template at all?

Thank you for your time Vessel of Domination (talk) 18:51, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Vessel of Domination, indeed somewhat confusing ;-) but if you are not sure about the correct entry for the Inbox field just leave it empty. Hope that helps. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:08, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

creating an article about my self with almost no sources

I want to create an article about myself but there are little to none sources I can use because ahah i'm not the most well known person. Also even if I did have sources is there a format I can use to make putting an article look nice Daichi Hara (talk) 22:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Daichi Hara: You should not try to do this. If there are no sources about you, then you are not notable and that is a requirement for any article, additionally it is strongly discouraged to try and write about yourself. See WP:AUTO RudolfRed (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: oh dang, thank you, please don't double check on me later if i've made articles, i will probably still try to make one about myself :)Daichi Hara (talk) 22:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Daichi Hara, if you try and do so, there's a really good chance it'll be deleted. Worst case scenario would end in you being blocked if you persist in doing so. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:16, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Daichi Hara, You can write about yourself on your user page. That is not in the Wikipedia main article domain and you can make it be what ever you want. Please be careful about giving too much private information. Everyone can see what you create. Your user page is here. You won't get in trouble for writing about yourself there. JaredHWood💬 22:37, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

So long as it doesn't masquerade as an article or used for other purposes like promotion, yes, it'll be fine. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding quotes to sources

It's the best when editors include the 'quote=' tag in the reference so when you hover over the ref-link you can see the exact quote from the source. What is the best practice when a single source contains lots of quotable content and is used in multiple places in a Wikipedia article? I don't want to include all the quotes together because it will just create a wall of text in the quote spot and ruin the original purpose. Should I create multiple reference tags to the same source just so I can have focused quotes near my content? Or is that bad because we want a source to share all references on the page? Or perhaps if a source is full of prolific quotes I should just skip using the 'quote=' tag all together in those cases? What says the TeaHouse? JaredHWood💬 20:31, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

This looks like a good question for Wikipedia talk:Citing sources. It may have already been asked in the archives. If it hasn't been asked yet there and you don't get a response here by the time this question is archived, ask over there. If you DO see the answer in the archives over here, reply in this thread with a link to the answer so the conversation can be closed out. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jared.h.wood. Adding a quote to each reference is not considered a best practice on Wikipedia. See the guidelines at WP:FOOTQUOTE for recommendations. You can do it, but be very careful about how much you quote from a given source to stay within copyright restrictions. You will need to do it with separate references. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks StarryGrandma. That is just what I needed. JaredHWood💬 22:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Jared.h.wood, if you use shortened footnotes you can have the second reference use a shorter form:

First statement. Second statement.

References

You can do almost the same thing without using citation templates. Hope this helps. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks again. Even better. This will help me tremendously. I have a link to a very densely worded multipage pdf and giving the page number at different locations in the article will greatly help other editors verify the content. WP:SRF added to my list of favorite things. JaredHWood💬 23:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Help finding a legit citation

I am trying to create an article for the label Deanwell Global Music. They are established and distributed worldwide, but I'm not able to find appropriate citations about their history outside of mentions in articles by some of the artists on the label, their website, and discogs (which isn't an allowable source). If you do a web search you will find tons of references from sites selling their releases. AtlantaMusic2021 (talk) 21:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi AtlantaMusic2021. I just ran a bunch of (non-Google web) searches and was not able to find a single useful source. For that reason I am betting this company is simply not notable enough for a stand-alone article. Sometimes the sources needed simply don't exist. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fuhghettaboutit I don't really understand what would be considered notable "enough" in this instance. The label is distributed and associated with an already documented distributor Light In The Attic Records and has worked with notable bands that are documented on Wikipedia (Asylum Party and Little Nemo (band). I see articles for similar labels that don't seem to have any citations whatsoever. Please give me some guidance because often the history of a label or band isn't told by anything but self documentation and through community supported forums such as Discogs. I feel like references in articles about the releases would be enough in this case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AtlantaMusic2021 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@AtlantaMusic2021: Not all Wikipedia articles are perfect - see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. GoingBatty (talk) 22:01, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty Sigh. Ok I get it. But I am coming here for help and was hoping maybe someone could assist me in finding an appropriate source. — Preceding --AtlantaMusic2021 (talk) 22:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC) comment added by AtlantaMusic2021 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@AtlantaMusic2021: I've also gave it a try, but I also didn't find any sources that were usable. Sometimes sources just don't exist. You might also want to read Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 00:03, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby - Thanks for looking. It's not an article about myself, it's just a label I'm a fan of and feel it is significant because of their role in the Cold wave (music) revival. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AtlantaMusic2021 (talk • contribs) 00:12, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I need help with my article

I need help writing my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:New_Rockstars. TonyStank123456789 (talk) 23:23, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@TonyStank123456789: I suggest using less YouTube references from the New Rockstars, and more references from independent reliable sources. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:10, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Salem Witch Museum Post

 Courtesy link: Draft:Salem Witch Museum

Hi there to all Administrators of the Wikipedia community. I wished to install the new page that describes another museum that is present in Salem, Massachusetts. Unfortunately my proposed page was declined and I need help here. How can I post this without getting bombarded with declined notifications and contribute properly to the community? SCPdude629 (talk) 19:22, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: You could add more references that provide significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the museum in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the museum. The two gray boxes at the top of the draft have several links to Wikipedia pages that provide lots of information. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty, thx but unfortunately The page seems out of whack and even I am struggling to fix that, could you help me edit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCPdude629 (talk • contribs) 20:18, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: Draft:Salem Witch Museum looks ok to me. What is the specific issue you are struggling to fix? GoingBatty (talk) 23:19, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty, Apparently everytime I try to submit this it declines despite the accurate info I installed and sourced as mentioned. It makes no sense, is there a sabotage IDK abut here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCPdude629 (talk • contribs) 04:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: Looking at the history of the draft, you haven't edited it since January 14. Also, adding the @ sign in front of a user name doesn't notify the user - you have to use a template like {{ping}}. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 04:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: As for why the article was declined: You might, for example, want to include this source here and this also, as these are about the museum specifically. You may also want to take a look at this, which touches on the history of the building etc. Really, just do a google search (for "news"), and you will find plenty of material. I sadly don't have time to work in this myself. --LordPeterII (talk) 10:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@LordPeterII:, I will see what I can do and as for GoingBatty I appreciate your help in pinging. I will use this as responsibly as possible and only for important matters. I will take a look and use these sources presented to me today but if it declines again, I give up. Also can someone post another notice of the decline so I can resubmit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCPdude629 (talk • contribs) 15:28, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: I see you added some references to the draft. You could summarize/paraphrase the information in those references to add more sentences to your draft, and then use those references as footnotes. I see you also removed the Submission declined template - please don't do that. Instead, click the blue [Resubmit] button at the bottom left of the template when you're ready for the draft to be reviewed again. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:42, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I removed it cause I thought it would intervene in the profile's coding but now I know not to, sorry. Also I have no clue what to do what footnotes and how to add them despite my previous experiences. How can I fix my problem to resubmit it and how can I repair the references properly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCPdude629 (talk • contribs) 19:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: See Help:Footnotes, and follow the example used in the one footnote already in the draft. GoingBatty (talk) 21:56, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty:, I'll try but I feel lost still, I need to resubmit this before it's permanently erased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCPdude629 (talk • contribs) 23:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: There's no rush - you have six months to work on it before it's erased. Also the ping template doesn't work it you don't sign your posts. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 01:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Editing articles for individuals who have transitioned.

 Courtesy link: Catherine Pancake

Hi, I recently edited the article for Catherine Pancake, who now goes by the name Chet and uses they/them pronouns. The changes were immediately reverted because it "did not appear constructive." I provided external sources, so I'm unsure where I went wrong. Any advice would be appreciated; here is the reversion message as it appears in Talk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Uterodactyl Uterodactyl (talk) 20:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Wtmitchell: You did the reversion, what is your take on this? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:31, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Uterodactyl, thanks for bringing this to our attention. It looks like Wtmitchell mistakenly thought your edit was vandalism. I've gone ahead and restored it and moved the page, in accordance with our guidance on gender identity at MOS:IDENTITY. I confirmed that Chet now goes by that name here. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:53, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

(e/c) Hey Uterodactyl This has already been "re-reverted", i.e., the user who reverted your edits was reverted in turn, and your changes are back, citing MOS:IDENTITY in the edit summary. I'd further note that the user who reverted you was advised in the edit summary by the re-reverting user to "please be more cautious in your Huggle patrolling". I don't know if that regarded the fact that the edit belonged, or the fact that the reversion was done using a rollback, or both, but I'd not that you should never have been reverted using that method of reversion, which is only for edits that are clearly vandalism; this can have a chilling effect when done improperly for good faith edits, even where they should be reverted but are not patently vandalism, sometimes driving away good editors. Just a mistake here I think. You have to understand that we get so many bad edits throughout one day... Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I took another look at this, and it looks like an error on my part. Sdkb, thanks for fixing the problem I introduced and for the deserved criticism. I encountered this, as I recall, among lots of vandalism which looked to have been done by malicious schoolchildren who has been turned loose on Wikipedia with little preparation and no supervisioon. That's an explanation of how I think this happened, and I understand that an explanation does not serve as an excuse. Mea culpa. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks so much, all! I appreciate the explanation and the re-reversion both. Best, Uterodactyl (talk) 01:39, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Uterodactyl: You may want to review the categories, and remove/revise any that do not apply. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:45, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Unable to view an archived Talk page

I was trying to view a past discussion in this archived Talk page but only the first item in the massive list of items is viewable. I tried Archive 105 and Archive 107 and both looked fine, just the Archive 106 in question seems to have issue. I tried different browsers and got the same result. Luminoxius (talk) 02:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Luminoxius: They were hidden in the collapsed sections, which weren't properly formatted. I should've fixed it. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 02:09, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: You did fix it! Thanks! --Luminoxius (talk) 02:12, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Is it appropriate to base the setup of my article on a featured article?

Is it appropriate to base the setup of my article on a featured article?

Thank you for your time Vessel of Domination (talk) 01:42, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: Sounds like a great idea to base the setup of your draft on a featured article of the same genre. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:47, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

It isn't the same genre because I could not find a featured article that was a visual novel with minimal gameplay for the most part in my game you are simply reading

P.S. the article I was Basing mine off is The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time

Thank you for your patience😄 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vessel of Domination (talk • contribs) 01:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: Basing your draft on a video game article is a good idea, but don't base it on a featured article about a tree or a person. I'm concerned that you used the phrase "my game". If you are an employee of the company or a creator of the game or have some other conflict of interest, then you should declare that on your user page. GoingBatty (talk) 02:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I am so sorry! I did not mean it that way what I meant was that I am the only person working on the article. I have no relation to any of the companies involved in creating or producing World End Syndrome. That was entirely my fault for wording it that way and I will try to be more careful with how type things from now on.

P.S. Thank you so much for the advice and I apologize for any confusion I caused with what I typed

@Vessel of Domination: You may want to take a look at Remember 11: The Age of Infinity, which is a good article about a visual novel for ideas. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Overwhelming

I really want to become a contributor to the Women in Red 2021 initiative. I have been reading through article after article on here trying to figure out how to get started. I have created a profile (I think?) and I feel somewhat confident on how to create an article, but still don't know where to begin. There are so many things to look through for instructions. Do I just pick a name off of one of their lists and began researching that individual? Should I have all of my fact straight before I start writing anything? How would I know when a page is complete enough to ask to be published? How do I know if I'm using the right template? RedWriterGal (talk) 03:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

RedWriterGal, don't be overwhelmed here. First of all, Wikipedia gives you no agenda. This means that it's up to you which article to edit. It's all based on your interests. Wikipedia is also voluntary, so you don't need to work full time, but rather when you have the spare time to edit here.

1. You should reference all your content. See WP:RS.

2. Regarding "How would I know when a page is complete enough to ask to be published?", are you referring to drafts? If so, see WP:DRAFT.

3. Which "template" may I ask?

GeraldWL 03:59, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thank you! A lot of the speciality profile places like the Women in Red talk about using the right templates, I think to identify that you are with that project. RedWriterGal (talk) 04:12, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Then you don't need them. They'd be for advertising "Women in Red", and there's no need for advertising. OTOH Women in Red is a praiseworthy enterprise and if it didn't advertise itself then it would have much fewer new recruits. So yes, do add the templates, but only after you've attended to more pressing concerns. As for biographical templates (e.g. the one you see at the top right of Jean Rhys), there's no consensus that articles should have them. In my opinion, people with certain kinds of careers/notability benefit from them; but for the great majority of people, they actually detract from the value of the article. Even if you disagree with me (and clearly the majority of editors here do), you don't have to worry about adding them, because adding them to existing articles that lack them is a chore that a lot of people seem to enjoy. Let them do it (or, better, not do it). Concentrate on being informative, source-based, and readable. -- Hoary (talk) 05:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Appreciate the insight!! RedWriterGal (talk) 03:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry too much about "using the right template". Sneaking a peek at {{WIR}} (assuming that's what you're referring to, RedWriterGal), you may want to use a related template with an appended year (e.g., {{WIR 2020}}) on an article. Someone with more experience may be able to find the correct template to use. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:09, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Perfect, thank you! RedWriterGal (talk) 03:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Welcome to the Teahouse, RedWriterGal, and thanks for joining Women in Red. While I can't speak for any specialised instructions the initiative has, I strongly suggest you start a draft in draftspace; there is a link to the Article Creation Wizard in Your first article that will help you do so. You should have at least three reliable sources so that you can establish the subject's notability. Reviewers will not check the draft until you add {{subst:submit}} to it, and you can work on it there at your leisure. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Good to know, thank you! RedWriterGal (talk) 04:12, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@RedWriterGal: If you haven't already, complete Wikipedia's tutorial to editing known as the The Wikipedia Adventure. It'll teach you the basics for you to get started. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 05:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Should I have all of my facts straight before I start writing anything? Yes and no. Whoever my biographee might be, let's say she was born in 1947, which I know because I read it in the book I borrowed from the library but then had to return and now I can't enter and look at it again. Or, hang on, was it that other book? Or maybe it was 1946? No, I must instead specify my source honestly, confidently and clearly. (And if it's from a book, precisely: not just somewhere within the 250-page book, but instead on page 75.) So the facts that you write, you must get straight. However, you don't need to present a fully rounded picture of the person. It can be very incomplete (as long as it doesn't give a misleading impression). Take my article Jill Freedman, for example. It's mostly about work by her that might have been seen by people interested in photography: photobooks, exhibitions, etc. These would have paid her little or nothing; to make a livelihood, she was working for publishers or other clients. I wrote very little about this, because I knew (and still know) very little. I trust the reader will understand and make allowances for the absence. If in the future some company such as Steidl publishes an omnibus of her work, perhaps it will come with details of her more routine editorial/commercial work, whereupon somebody (me?) will be able to augment the article accordingly. (NB there are limits to such selectiveness: see for example Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:15, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

This was very helpful, Thank you. RedWriterGal (talk) 03:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Notes

Controversial UBX

Is this UBX okay for Wikipedia? It seems rather controversial, given the CPC's history and the fact that Chinese people normally can't edit Wikipedia. It also indicates a WP:COI for any users of the UBX. Any thoughts? Thank you! Firestar464 (talk) 03:44, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Firestar464: Yes, it is controversial, that is why it is in User:UBX space. See Wikipedia:Userbox_migration and User:UBX RudolfRed (talk) 04:23, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Archives

Ahh, now where do I find the archives for this page? Thanks, and just link to the archive box. PhoenixStarlight (talk) 04:14, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

The most recent archive is here. To search archives, use this Special:Search page. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 04:24, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@PhoenixStarlight: List of recent archives and a search box are on the top right of the page, just under the table of contents box. RudolfRed (talk) 04:26, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

What is the policy on broken wikilinks that show up in red

At one point, did a page exist for these names that has since been removed? Are such links supposed to be retained as an encouragement for someone to create a page for them, or should the markup [[]] be removed? UClaudius (talk) 04:35, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@UClaudius: The page may have been deleted or it may have never existed. If you click the redlink, it will show you if the page was previously deleted and if so, for what reason. If it is a link to an article that may be created someday, then don't delete it. See WP:REDLINK, which says "Only remove red links if Wikipedia should not have an article on the subject [...] " RudolfRed (talk) 04:40, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, UClaudius. Please do not think of a red link as "broken". Instead, think of it as an invitation to research whether a topic is notable and deserves a Wikipedia article, or a link to an existing article, perhaps one with a slightly different name. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:57, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Written articles

Is there a trusted list of more experienced wiki editors that can create a page I can refer 501c3 and clients too? PlanetPllc (talk) 17:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

PlanetPllc You may make a request at Requested Articles, but the backlog there is severe and it may be a long time, if ever, before it is acted on. Please understand that Wikipedia has no interest in helping your clients, we're just here to write an encyclopedia of human knowledge. 331dot (talk) 17:11, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I fully understand that and am in agreement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlanetPllc (talk • contribs) 17:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I suggest you look at COMPORG as well, PlanetPllc. --ColinFine (talk) 17:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@PlanetPllc: It sounds like you might want to consider one of the options at WP:OUT or other web design and hosting service. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:41, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@PlanetAya2:(Re-ping renamed user) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles With Few Sources

Where does one submit a request for articles to be evaluated due to lack of source material? Here is an example article I found of interest. Thank you, Augu❤Maugu 💕 07:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC))

What do you mean by "evaluated"? You have already tagged Assassination of Park Chung-hee as needing more references. David notMD (talk) 07:54, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

You have splattered the article with a great number of "citation needed" templates. They are indeed deserved, though whether that was the best approach is a different matter. The assassination is clearly of encyclopedic significance, and sources do exist in English, let alone in Korean. Therefore the article can and should be improved. At Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea, invite people to improve the article. Or indeed start to improve it yourself. -- Hoary (talk) 08:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Article Editing and Referencing

I want to know how to put perfect referencing and citations in an article to fulfil Wikipedia criteria? Noman077 (talk) 08:49, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Noman077} and welcome to the Teahouse, you can find help with referencing here WP:REFB currently your draft Draft:Resourceinn reads like an advertisement for the business, see WP:SOLUTIONS. Do you have a conflict of interest? Theroadislong (talk) 08:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Sourcing and referencing

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia. I have noticed something today. Why are editors meticulous about 'sourcing and referencing' on some pages, especially 'secondary sources' if a page is to be published, but are less so on others? For example, I noticed a Wikipedia Biography entry today which was full of unsourced and unreferenced assertions. It simply came across as one person's opinion of another. Mahler johnson (talk) 19:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mahler johnson: Simply, there are lots of volunteers and some are good at adding references and others don't. RudolfRed (talk) 20:04, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

In addition, without knowing precisely what pages you are talking about, it will be difficult to answer your question. Ruslik_Zero 20:10, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

So not having referenced assertions does not necessarily invalidate assertions on the page and stop the page being published for public viewing? I thought all material on pages had to be be reliably sourced and referenced

(e/c) Hi Mahler johnson. There are a variety of reasons for this, but I would say the main reasons are i) we are a volunteer project, with each editor editing by his or her own light; ii) Wikipedia has no central authority dispatching editors to apply the same set of standards to each article and page; iii) we have a variety of different gatekeeper functions, e.g., new pages patrol, and articles for creation, etc.; all of which iv) have evolved over time, and in that same vein; v) our standard have tightened over the years. Please see WP:OTHERSTUFF for a treatment of some involved principles. In summary of that page, the fact other articles exist that might appear to be in a similar state to a draft that was declined or rejected has little to no precedential value – because (for the reasons I've attempted to list) we have plenty of articles that don't currently meet our standards because they escaped review, were reviewed poorly, were reviewed in an earlier era under different standards, and so forth. all this is to say, when you come across a page that looks like the page you drafted that was rejected or deleted, it probably means that it needs to be edited to meet our standards or deleted, which just hasn't happened yet. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ruslik_Zero For example, Cyril Smith (Marxist). How do I get the small vertical line (for example between RudolfRed|RudolfRed) on my computer keyboard? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahler johnson (talk • contribs) 20:21, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Cyril Smith (Marxist) already tagged for having sections with no references. Ideally, people will add references! In answer to your second question, the vertical line should be on the key above the Enter key. David notMD (talk) 20:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Mahler johnson, without knowing what kind of keyboard layout you're using, I can't say for certain, but if it's the US keyboard layout, it is ⇧ Shift+\ as David notMD pointed out. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

On my keyboard, the vertical line key is with ` and ¬ on the same key to the left of the number 1 and ! key. But do not how to produce it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahler johnson (talk • contribs) 20:43, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

If pressing ⇧ Shift doesn't create it, you may have to switch to a different keyboard layout (software) on your computer, which is unfortunately out of my realm of expertise. You may have to experiment with different layouts before finding the right one. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:57, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mahler johnson:. The character ¦ which is on the same key as ` and ¬ is NOT the "pipe" character that is used in many places within Wikipedia. In the event that you did need it, it would be obtained by using AltGr together with the key to the left of your number 1 and ! key. On most keyboards, the correct pipe character | is ⇧ Shift+\ as already mentioned. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:54, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@David notMD : Could you post your comments on this Teahouse page instead of on my talk page so it is all kept together and everybody can view the continuity of the discussion in one single block. You have written on my talk page : — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahler johnson (talk • contribs) 20:48, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

David notMD - You wrote...'Naming poorly referenced existing articles as examples in an attempt to justify accepting a new article can lead to the example articles being considered for deletion.'Mahler johnson (talk) 21:26, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

'David notMD : I was asked to name the article which I viewed today by Ruslik_Zero. I simply mentioned it because it seems to me that people new to Wikipedia (as Iam) would like to see a more rigorous consistency in the application of criteria and paradigms. If people are having new articles 'declined' or 'rejected' then they are inevitably going to compare declined or rejected articles with those which are established for public viewing. I do not want any article deleted if it adds to our sum of knowledge. As a newcomer to Wikipedia, I was not aware of your assertion on deletion of articles. However, it seems rather harsh, almost tyrannical, that such an action should be taken when both new and existing pages are open to modification in terms of reliable primary and secondary referencing and sourcing.' Mahler johnson (talk) 21:28, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Anyway, this is more or less resolved after studying post (and references in it) by Fuhghettaboutit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahler johnson (talk • contribs) 21:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

FYI: There is a distinction between Declined (not good enough) and Rejected (never going to be good enough). David notMD (talk) 22:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Locking Wiki Page

How do you lock a page? Someone is writing misinformation and is claiming the information that people in the organization I am involved with have spent hours perfecting is false which is untrue. 96.248.41.215 (talk) 02:10, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

You can make a request at WP:RFPP if there is a problem such as ongoing vandalism. RudolfRed (talk) 02:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

96.248.41.215 Does people in the organization I am involved with have spent hours perfecting is false which is untrue imply that you have a potential conflict of interest in this article? If so, please review our policies on conflict of interest editing. BrxBrx(talk)^{(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}})} 05:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@96.248.41.215 To which article are you referring? Here's a link to the COI policies: WP:COI. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Also, IP user, please understand that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources.. --ColinFine (talk) 12:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

How do we have someone other that Bidgee review our edits

It appears the user "Bidgee" has a issue with me because I called him out for calling me a lier. Can someone other than this bell end look at the things being edited?

 110.145.12.238 (talk) 10:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse 110.145.12.238 - no surprise that someone has an issue with you if you called him a lier. Anyway, I do not see any contributions with this IP in the last time, perhaps Bidgee can clarify to what you are referring?! CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:40, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Also note that personal attacks are prohibited. 331dot (talk) 10:46, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

This appears to be a dispute between User:Nedloh1234 and User:Bidgee about images added/reverted at 2019–20 Australian bushfire season. Maybe edits to other articles. Already has been on Talk page of that article, and on each other's Talk pages. Please don't refer to anyone as a "bell end." David notMD (talk) 13:45, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

IP Quote

Would this be plagiarism? Some IP added a three-paragraph long quote on Franck Haise Paul Vaurie (talk) 14:15, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Paul Vaurie, imo it wouldn't come under fair-use. It's too long and is in place of original prose rather than interspersed with it. In other words, yes I'd remove it. In the strictest sense it's not plagiarism because it's in quotation marks and the source is cited. Regards, Zindor (talk) 14:29, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

improving article

Courtesy link: Lavar Munroe

Can someone please give my edits (cites/refs) a look and offer some feed back. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated .  Fredlin82! (talk) 14:32, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Fredlin82!. You have only contributed to the article Lavar Munroe and at a brief look your edits have been improvements. I have just two comments. First, you don't use edit summaries as much as you could, for example sometimes omitting any summary at all even when you have made a substantial change. More serious, though, is that you have added an image of the sculpture "Father's Urn" which according to Wikimedia Commons is you own work (i.e. you took the photograph). That's unfortunately not good enough for a derivative work, which this is since it depicts the sculpture in which Munroe owns the copyright. You could fix this by having him use the "OTRS process". to confirm he gave you his permission to upload the image. (Ask me if you need more help on that). Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:51, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Problems with historic images

Hi - I have 14 images to add to my otherwise complete article about a professional British sculptor. (It's currently in my Sandbox). Many of the images are from photographs from the 1940s-1990s, legitimately obtained through the artist's family. I'm having difficulty uploading some of them because they trigger an automatic notice saying they might be unacceptable & that I can only upload photos I have taken myself. Others get through. It's not obvious how I can circumvent this. I have copied some by taking screenshots. Is this at least part of the problem? Thanks! Penny Penpz (talk) 13:28, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. The problem about your article draft is that it is entirely based on personal information that cannot be verified by anyone reading the material. Wikipedia confines itself to articles about notable people who have been written about in reliable sources, usually secondary sources (i.e. not based on interviews). Thus at present your draft is a non-starter. As to images, these can wait until the article gets accepted, if it can be improved to the standard required. At that point, the photos can be uploaded using the OTRS system, which requires the copyright holder to confirm by e-mail that they are giving permission to upload the photos, or to do so themselves. Note that the copyright holder is the photographer, not the subject of the image. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:09, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

The copyright owner needs to give more than "permission to upload them", Mike. Penpz, they would need to agree to license the images under CC-BY-SA or similar, which would allow anybody to reuse them for any purpose, commercial or not: see donating copyright materials. And your screenshots would be derivative works, protected by both the original copyright and your own copyright, I believe. But as Mike says, at the moment you are worrying about what pictures to put on the walls of your house when you haven't even surveyed the ground to see if it is safe to build the house on it. See NARTIST. --ColinFine (talk) 15:10, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Yolanda Fernandez Sanz

I just added the biography of Yolanda Fernández Sanz for Wikipedia but cannot find it to add edit references. Was it deleted/canceled/rejected? Misiwibecla (talk) 14:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

You added the draft here into the Help Desk page and another editor deleted it because this is the wrong place for drafts. You should put them in your sandbox or in Draft space. You can find the text at "this DIFF". and copy/paste it back somewhere more appropriate. Ask again here if you don't know how to do that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:16, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

A draft Draft:Yolanda Fernández Sanz was deleted as it had been abandoned. Theroadislong (talk) 14:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)#

In that case you can request it be restored, Misiwibecla. See WP:Requests for undeletion/G13. --ColinFine (talk) 15:14, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

How do I report a user for their inappropriate edit summary?

How do I report a user for their inappropriate edit summary? The user obviously went beyond his limits in the article LRTA 13000 class. HiwilmsTalk 14:57, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Hiwilms. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. The first course of action would normally be to approach an editor on their personal talk page, addressing the concerns about their edit summaries. If that failed then the last resort would be filing a report at WP:ANI. In this odd case I'm going to ask an administrator to look at this. Regards, Zindor (talk) 15:10, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Hiwilms, Zindor: I have revision redacted that and another page's history where these highly uncivil edit summaries were left, and have warned the user. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

A humble request!

) Greetings! Thanks for inviting me to a knowledge hub like The Tea House.

I exiting to learn from senior editors.

After three months of observation, I decided to join Wikipedia to contribute in my spare time and gain some experience.

As I am a new user I can't edit some unexpected errors. Please consider my request.

My Request is: unfortunately found an article with an error which is not correct at all. Article link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nispal_Singh A WP-BLP category article, please look at the article on notice section someone mentioned him "GADHA". For your kind information, Gadha is apparently slang in India (Hindi Language: Gadha-means donkey).

I observe that the notice is correct, the article not maintained proper citation and regulation but how correct is the word on the warning notice board. I think it was done by some childminded or a non-developed person.

Request to look forward to my request and warn the user who did it. Auramstate (talk) 06:21, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

This has now been resolved! Thank you! WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 06:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝 for your prompt correction. also, I need to learn how did you do that.

By revert to the last edit or by edit source code? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auramstate (talk • contribs) 07:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Note that I didn't make the edits, someone else did. They likely used a tool to see who wrote it, and then undid the revision that added it in. See the edit history of that page. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 07:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Please don't mind senior WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝), I am new here so asking too many questions to you, hope am not disturbing you. Now I got the solution- how to find the edit history of an article. Thanks with Regards by Auramstate (talk) 07:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

We have a Help article on edit histories, it also has pictures if that's your thing. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 15:35, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Are these sockpuppets?

There are at least three accounts removing the same info from the Zeta Psi article:

BadaBing72, only 1 edit in his edit history

Phippap, 6 edits, all to this one article

User103214, 1 edit in his edit history.

There were also several IP addresses making the same edits. What do I do here? Wes sideman (talk) 16:06, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Wes sideman (talk) 16:06, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Going to editing semi-protected pages when I will have four days old account and 36 edits

I currently have one days old account and 36 edits. But, when my account on four days old and 36 edits, while its instruction is requires at least 10 edits, what should I do? Is able to auto-confirmed? Lkas123 (talk) 16:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Lkas123. You will become autoconfirmed on February 5, 2021 at 15:37 (UTC}. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Redirects and Categories

Is it okay to add categories to a redirect page? It seems like it could be helpful for wikiprojects because a member of the project working on a specific genre of something would easily be able to see potential articles, and adding the categories to the page it redirects to could cause a lot of clutter or not make sense for the broader subject. But adding a category to a redirect also seems kind of weird. TipsyElephant (talk) 16:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello TipsyElephant. I suggest you read Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects where the policy is explained.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:51, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Shantavira: Okay, I skimmed over it and it looks like my recent creation makes sense and follows the guidelines, but could you double check it for me. The redirect I created is The RobCast. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

That looks good to me.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:18, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Make new article from section of another article

What template am I supposed to use if I'm trying to propose that a section of an article should be moved and turned into a completely new article. I'm planning on proposing that Lore (podcast) and The NoSleep Podcast have their episode lists moved to separate articles like how The Last Podcast on the Left has a separate article for List of The Last Podcast on the Left episodes. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:23, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

TipsyElephant, you may be thinking of {{Split section}}. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:26, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding to an existing page

I am trying to add information to my wikipedia page. 136.33.194.97 (talk) 16:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, IP user who I presume is Kevin Harlan. Thank you: you have now gone about it the right way to make changes to Wikipedia's article about you (not "your Wikipedia page"), by posting on Talk:Kevin Harlan. An editor will get round to that at some point. But, you have not provided a reliable published source for the information. Without that, the information should not be added; so you're basically asking the person who looks at your request to go and research the information you want to add. That it is your 12th season is at least reasonbly easy to verify, but claims that something is the first (or last, or tallest) of its kind definitely need a citation to a reliable source independent of anybody connected with whatever the claim relates to. --ColinFine (talk) 17:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Why are some many people here hostile to new users?

I've started editing an article recently and I just get attacked from all sides by established users. Why do people automatically assume the worst here? Only one person a user Arcturus was just and welcoming from the get go. A few others later apologised for their initially hostile behaviour and becaome geniunely helpful. Though some even verge on what feels like bullying? It just all feels somewhat extreme for what in my case is quite a niche article. Why can't everyone be like Arcturus? 80.42.39.51 (talk) 18:06, 31 January 2021 (UTC) 80.42.39.51 (talk) 18:06, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Honestly, "because we're human volunteers" is the best answer I can offer. Every day, literally thousands of people may edit Wikipedia for reasons, and in ways, that are incompatible with its purpose. That's because it's one of the most-viewed sites on the web, which makes it attractive to promoters, vandals, those who think it's a social media site, or those who want to (even with good intentions) share their opinion, or that of others, with the world. It's really hard for us to separate the good from the bad, and we sometimes fail. (Disclaimer: My opinion (ironically I suppose, though this is a talk page), not a comment on any particular case; I haven't looked at the OP's edits.) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 18:55, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I somewhat understand your situation, when I first joined Wikipedia. I felt like some people were hostile/somewhat rude to me. I think it could be because they may mistake you for another person, one person who was kind of rude to me thought I was a troll trying to avoid a ban by creating a new account. Of course, your situation is different than mine, but here are a few tips. Stay civil, be understanding of their point of view, and respond back to them kindly on your point of view. I hope this helps! Toad64 17:51, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Creating a page abt a notable person i know

I want to create a page about a notable person I know but I don't want there to be any bias. Can I share this page with you guys to make sure there is no bias and all the facts check out? Also, How am I able to share the page with this community so it can be reviewed by others? Tracksthegeneral (talk) 17:07, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Tracksthegeneral, welcome to the Teahouse. It depends on what you mean by a notable person [you] know. To what extent? Intimately? Just in passing? There's more info over at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, but if you do have one, it's generally best not to directly edit the article. Creating a new article is one of the hardest things an editor can do on here, and I would suggest thoroughly reading Wikipedia:Your first article before doing so, as it also provides a link to an article creation wizard that will start your article in draftspace. When it is ready, add {{subst:submit}} to it, but make sure the sources you're using are reliable and appropriately cited, as those tend to be the reasons why drafts get declined. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:18, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

and this [1] would suggest that you do indeed have a conflict of interest which you will need to properly disclose. Theroadislong (talk) 17:29, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

You created but did not submit a draft about Savanna Karmue, and then removed all content, leaving an empty draft at Draft:Savanna Karmue. On your User page, you had declared a COI because you are A) a close relative, B) a family friend, and C) a business consultant - and then blanked all that. If you truly intend to start over, you need to be clear on your User page the nature of your COI before you restore content to the draft. You can then submit the draft to Articles for Creation for review. Whether a 14-year old person has achieved Wikipedia's concept of notability is an interesting question. David notMD (talk) 17:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

All these things were pure mistakes. I accidentally logged out and wasn't able to save any drafts. Also, I will be more clear about my relationship with Savanna Karmue, starting the whole process all over again the right way. Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tracksthegeneral (talk • contribs) 18:04, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

How to add reliable sources without copy and pasting?

So I know how to add citations, but I know I can't copy and paste ones. The question is: How do i add citations from reliable sources that might be a good thing? I kind of want to improve on adding citations and reliable sources. And I know I cant give my opinion and ask for sources, so can you please help me? Thanks. Joshua's Number9 (talk) 14:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Joshua's Number9. Another editor has already offered to aid you with the proper use of sources and reference citations on your Talk Page. That would be the best place to continue your interactions on the subject as you build up your experience. Your talk page also has links to many other help pages for beginners. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshua's Number9 (talk • contribs) 18:21, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Link in Template?

For my article I'm writing I need to add links to Playstation 4 and Nintendo Switch in the template how would I do this?

Thank you for your time Vessel of Domination (talk) 00:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: Which template are you trying to use? RudolfRed (talk) 00:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Infobox video game is the template I'm creating a article from scratch — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vessel of Domination (talk • contribs) 00:55, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: Like this: | platforms = [[PlayStation 4]], [[Nintendo Switch]] Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:15, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: Looks like you have gotten started at Draft:World End Syndrome. I recommend getting references installed as you go. The potential problem is that you will be writing content that you know to be true, but looking for references later. Also, Japanese refs are OK, but for an article in English Wikipedia, will be useful to have some English refs. David notMD (talk) 07:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Vessel of Domination. I'm afraid that you're doing what many people do when they start out creating an article for the first time, and doing the easy bits before the important bits. It's like building a house and saying, "Right, let's paint the windows, and make the curtains, and build the water feature in the garden, and then we'll start digging to find out whether the ground is safe to build on here". Creating an article starts by finding the independent reliable published sources that you're going to build the article on, because if you can't find them then your house will fall down (the article will never be accepted) and all the work you've put in will be wasted. --ColinFine (talk) 11:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice but I already have a few sources lined up the main reason I'm working on the template is to get an idea of how everything works with aligning link building and so on. Thank you again for the advice as I still very green at this

P.S. Thank you for your time and I did not know I could use Japanese sourcesVessel of Domination (talk) 18:26, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

How can I add newspaper articles which were published few months back

Adding newspaper citations for wikipedia page

I am quite new to Wikipedia publishing. I have created a new wikipage for a renowned makeup artist in Malaysia. And the wikipage link is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kannan_Raajamanickam. However, it was rejected due to lack of reliable sources. I learned from "Wikipedia help channel" that the resources should be independent resources such as large newspaper have written about the subject independently.

I have such newspaper collections published about the subject, but they were published a few months ago. So there's no direct link available to the newspaper's copy. (This is the link <link removed as source is an apparent copyright violation, per WP:ELNEVER> to the newspaper image). However, there's a link to the newsarticle in web article format at https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/2020/jul/27/real-art-reel-reflections-2175145.html

In which format should I add the links in the citations. Please help me! 101.127.216.65 (talk) 15:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Sources do not have to be online, and even if they are, the important parts of a citation are the information which will help a reader locate the information if it isn't online, and in many cases also get a sense of its value, from its date, publication etc. In most cases, a URL is a convenience for a reader, not a required part of the citation. You should certainly not link to a scan or other online copy of a source unless it is clear that the image you are linking to was authorised by the copyright holder, because Wikipedia forbids any links to material which violates copyright. Information about how to format references, and what should appear in them, is at REFB. --ColinFine (talk) 15:23, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi. Please note my removal of the above URL above, per WP:ELNEVER. Even here that link cannot remain as a putative copyright violation. Moreover, if, as it appears, you scanned and posted that image using WhatsApp, you should take it down.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:47, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Fuhghettaboutit (talk), apologize I didn't aware of the copyrights issues! thanks for taking it down!

Hi ColinFine (talk), thanks for your clarifications. You have mentioned that "Sources do not have to be online" and "a URL is a convenience for a reader, not a required part of the citation". In that case, can I include the article's details such as publication name, date and time? Will that be sufficient to be a reliable independent citation? Otherwise, the same newspaper article is still available in web article format at web article format at https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/2020/jul/27/real-art-reel-reflections-2175145.html. Will it be considered as a valid resource for citation? Kindly please clarify! Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.127.216.65 (talk) 17:14, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Certainly you can. I would present that reference (using the template 'cite news', which is not obligatory, but I find it helpful) as

{{cite news
 |title = Real art, reel reflections
 |date= 27 July 2020
 |first = Roshne
 |last = Balasubramanian
 |work = [[The New Indian Express]]
 |url =https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/2020/jul/27/real-art-reel-reflections-2175145.html
 |access-date = 2 Feb 2021}}

(I have laid it out on separate lines for clarity, but it can also be put all on one line), which displays as:

Balasubramanian, Roshne (27 July 2020). "Real art, reel reflections". The New Indian Express. Retrieved 2 Feb 2021.

If you wrap all that between <ref> and </ref>, the software will display it in the "References" section, and provide a numbered link to it in the text where you specified it. --ColinFine (talk) 17:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

ColinFine (talk) Thank you for the detailed information! It helps me a lot. Definitely I'll incorporate your suggestions in citations. I'd also like to ask if there's any paid services as such to expedite the Wikipage review timeline? Cos, it took nearly 90 days for my document to be reviewed. Any services or ways to speed up the review process would be highly appreciated! Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.127.216.65 (talk) 18:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi again. No, there is no one you can pay to speed up your draft's review. (Anyone offering to do so for payment is almost certainly a scammer.) However, I note that the "submit" template contains the following tip:

"To improve your odds of a faster review, tag your draft with relevant WikiProject tags using the button below. This will let reviewers know a new draft has been submitted in their area of interest. For instance, if you wrote about a female astronomer, you would want to add the Biography, Astronomy, and Women scientists tags."

In order to take advantage of that Wikiproject categorization facility, please visit this link. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh, one other thing. The draft is extremely promotional in tone and content. So even if its sources were found sufficient (which I did not review), it will almost certainly be declined for reading like an advertisement. Accordingly, to save time—by avoiding another rejection and rewrite process—I suggest you work hard on making the draft read much, much more neutrally, e.g., remove all peacock language / buzzwords and other empty ad-speak. Wikipedia articles do not "sell" their subject; they do not advocate their virtues and editorialize about them in Wikipedia's voice; they are not hagiography; some parts that read like a commercial using empty marketing language include:

"world class"; "well sought after"; "his talented"; "stamped his imprint"; "world class and trend setting"; "own perseverance and hard work"; "impeccable perfection"; "pioneering"...

... and I'm only a quarter of the way through the draft with that sampling. Please also note a well respected saying for good writing, that such content violates: "show, don't tell". Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Help on admonitions templates

What is the Wikipedia/Wikimedia equivalent of MoinMoin's HelpOnAdmonitions page? Most help that I've found on Wikipedia goes into specifics of how templates work but doesn't give any relevant examples. I've seen mentions of them being called ‘header templates’, or more vaguely ‘banners’, but I've not yet managed to find a help page quite like HelpOnAdmonitions, listing some simple ones in a cheatsheet style. Which page should Help:admonitions redirect to? —James R. Haigh (talk) 2021-02-02Tue18:58:06Z

@JamesHaigh: Are you thinking of something like WP:WARNING? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:14, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Alternatively, the style of boxes on the page you provided look like what we call message boxes. For example, we have amboxes (article message boxes) like {{stub}}, and tmboxes (talk message boxes) like {{uw-vandalism1}}. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, amboxes look like what I'm looking for. Thanks. —James R. Haigh (talk) 2021-02-02Tue19:26:24Z

deleted article

I recently completed my first article and saved it as a draft. it was flagged as being 'promotional' and I was trying to work on it to improve it but unfortunately it was deleted before I could finish. as my first article I understand I have a learning curve and would really like to improve it and try again. it was many many many hours of work and research. I understand there may be a way for the article to be retrieved so that all my work is not lost and I can work on it anew. Can anyone help me with that please? thank you so much Misletoe20 (talk) 18:07, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Misletoe20, welcome to the Teahouse. Your Draft:Justin Kingsley has been deleted by Deb for being promotional, I am sure that she had good reason for doing so. Only Administrators can restore pages, see WP:Restore. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:18, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

thanks for the response. I am not so much looking to restore it as looking to save it again as a draft so that I can work on it and improve it. do you know if there are any administrators who could do that?

@Misletoe20: See Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Creating Page

Mahatma Award I was trying to search Mahatma Award page on wikipedia but could not find one and i have not been able to create it. How to do it? 2405:201:6804:BA:7946:F58C:E36F:662D (talk) 18:11, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi IP User, welcome to the Teahouse. If you want to create a new article and are completely new to this please have a close study before at WP:YFA. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Mahatma Award - available sourcing identified with a simple Google search suggests a notability challenge. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:28, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

A small question

There's a few articles I have seen that are rather dumb, including "Toilet paper orientation."

Are they really necessary? I mean, who really finds much interest in reading about the orientation of toilet paper? Not that it is for interesting reading, it's just kind of dumb in my opinion.

Thanks for listening if you do. Xdude gamer (talk) 17:24, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

It may be trivial to you, but many people clearly have strong opinions about it to such an extent that it seems to be notable enough to merit an article. I believe it has rightly earned its place at Wikipedia:Unusual_articles#Hygiene_and_sanitation.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:36, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Xdude gamer, I have strong opinions about it. I didn't realize there was an article about it, though I'm not surprised. I recently stumbled across the original patent, which some think settles the issue (it does not) I see that the image is in the article. I have seen some useless articles, but this one is way better than some of the really dumb ones. S Philbrick(Talk) 20:09, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

At what point do you just ignore disruptive editors?

Hello

At what point do you just ignore disruptive editors? So for example you have 2 editors who want nothing to change but every other editor agrees change is needed, and you have tried reaching out to the editors via the talkpage and they are just hostile at every turn. At what point do you ignore their objections and just make changes anyway?

Or do they effectively form a "blocking minority" and by keeping conversation going but refusing to even suggest their own changes fillibuster and improvement?

Thanks!

PlainAndSimpleTailor (talk) 20:12, 2 February 2021 (UTC) PlainAndSimpleTailor (talk) 20:12, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I chimed in at the locus of your dispute to see if I can't help mediate. What this dispute needs is some structure and resolution. In the future, please use the various routes of resolution, notably WP:DRN and WP:3O. You can't just ignore other editors if you don't like what they're saying, instead seek out more formal processes. Wikipedia works on consensus, and we have a great many ways to help build it. AdmiralEek (talk) 20:29, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Mark Lawrence Editor

Please can you help me, I want to publish a page about Mark Lawrence: TV & film Editor, he is also mentioned on other wiki pages but it's not allowing me to summit the page, Vladamir2020 (talk) 20:09, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vladamir2020: Well at the moment your draft is not suitable. It has no reliable sources, so we have no way to verify that any of the info is true, or that the subject is notable. AdmiralEek (talk) 20:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:Mark Lawrence. David notMD (talk) 20:35, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

HELP

Hi,

How do I know whether or not my article was approved or not? Daynahp98 (talk) 20:32, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Daynahp98: The draft Draft:Michelle_Duster is not yet reviewed. You will get a message on your talk page when the review is done letting you know if it was approved or not. RudolfRed (talk) 20:55, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Citing personal sources (e.g. funeral programs, obituaries, etc.)

Hi there, I was trying to expand on an entry for a deceased relative -- just the name of their parent. There's nothing really besides funeral programs, some census records. What do you suggest in terms of citing? Halibut62 (talk) 16:42, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Halibut62, but unpublished materials can never be cited, and information contained only in unpublished materials should never be included, in a Wikipedia article. --ColinFine (talk) 17:52, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you ColinFine. I will retract the entries that I made to Arester_Earl. Is it acceptable to cite a newspaper article if a conflict of interest note is included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Halibut62 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Halibut62: It would be appropriate to post a request on Talk:Arester_Earl with the {{request edit}} template, a specific request, and the information about the newspaper article (including the URL if it has one). Happy editing! (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 21:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Talk section question about "Westside High School (Omaha)"

Adding Jack & Jack, an American pop-rap duo to the alumni list.

So, I have asked a question in the talk page of Westside High School (Omaha), however it is something that can also be answered here, it is regarding adding the mentioned duo to the alumni list,

if anyone can go check it out and provide an answer/feedback, please do so! Nir Koren (talk) 21:29, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Nir Koren: Replied there. Since we're all volunteers, replies might take a few days. For non-urgent questions such as this, I suggest you please wait a few days before posting the same question in a second location. GoingBatty (talk) 21:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Refined search results.

If I wanted to narrow my search results to find specific articles about Linux distributions that are a specific class, like stub class or start class articles only, would it be better to search by using Wikipedia categories, or by using the pet scan at wmflabs, and what is the technical procedure for using your favored search method? Huggums537 (talk) 21:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Huggums537: One way would be to look at the subcategories of Category:Linux articles by quality, which are populated by {{WikiProject Linux}}. GoingBatty (talk) 22:06, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty:, thanks for the link. That helps. Huggums537 (talk) 22:29, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Insufficient content in new article draft submission

 Courtesy link: User:Aficia/sandbox

Hello everyone and thanks to Fiddle Faddle for inviting me to ask my question here. I appreciate the suggestion to merge my draft into an existing article, but am still interested in learning what would have improved the draft or qualified it to stand alone. I did read a number of instructional wikis before attempting my draft, and reviewed the page Fiddle Faddle kindly recommended in their response. But still am not clear what mistakes I made and would like to identify in order to improve my work. Thank you in advance for your help. Aficia (talk) 00:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Aficia (talk) 00:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

messegges

how do you delete messeges? R3daeret (talk) 00:21, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

WP:NOTHERE Two clearly vandalism edits have been fixed. Block may be warranted. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:33, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

What are good sources for info?

Im looking for any good sources for info to use on articles. I have only made one article and i mainly focus on minor edits. I would like to surface out a bit and do much larger edits. Starman2377 (talk) 19:15, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Starman2377: Have you visited Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources? TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:18, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! that helps alot. Is there any way to find good articles to edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starman2377 (talk • contribs) 19:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi Starman2377. I found your question subject to a variety of interpretations – what you mean by "good sources for info..." To me that might refer to core policies and guidelines to follow in article writing; or it might mean good sources to find, use and cite to meet our core policies and guidelines (since all of them converge in some way on use of high quality, reputable sources to meet aspects of their precepts and guidance). For the former, I would list them as (w/shorcuts provided for ease of memorization):

1. Notability (WP:N);
2. Verifiability (WP:V);
3. Neutral point of view (WP:NPOV);
4. No original research (WP:NOR);
5. What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOT);
6. Citing sources (WP:CITE) and
7. The Manual of style (WP:MOS);

For the latter, see above and note also pages like:

1. Wikipedia:Free English newspaper sources (WP:FENS);
2. Wikipedia:Public domain resources (WP:PDR);
3. Wikipedia:List of free online resources (WP:LOFOR);
4. Help:Find sources (WP:FIND); and
5. Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Shared Resources (WP:RX)

Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:46, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Starman2377. I will add to the useful suggestions above that you might look into The Wikipedia Library Card Platform. That page offers opportunities to use a number of sources of information that are available to Wikipedia editors. Some require individual applications, while others are part of a bundle. I have used some of them extensively and appreciate them greatly. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Humble request- COI

Hi, I'm writing an article about someone I know and am close to. I want to create a page for all their notable achievements but want to make sure there's no bias on the page. Can you please review this page: Draft:Savanna Karmue ? Thank you so much! Tracksthegeneral (talk) 20:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)Tracksthegeneral Tracksthegeneral (talk) 20:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Be aware that Teahouse host may be willing to look at the draft and make suggestions, but the review-for-approval process is be different people. Once you submit the draft it goes into a pile of thousands of drafts awaiting review. Not a queue, so a reviewer could take up your draft in days, but also weeks or months from now. David notMD (talk) 20:43, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

David notMD Yes, I am completely aware and read about how the process goes. I just want experienced users to view what I wrote, that's all. Thanks! Tracksthegeneral (talk) 21:02, 2 February 2021 (UTC)Tracksthegeneral

Hi Tracksthegeneral. I have deleted the page as a blatant, entwined copyright violation of multiple sources, from its first edit. I have left a note about this at your talk page. As we often tell users, you may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:10, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Fuhghettaboutit (talk) I have a question. When you say multiple sources, which ones were you referring to? Looking back at my work, I didn't copy/paste anything from the citation sources I linked below and the only thing taken was the book title. I am confused as to what I did wrong regarding copyright. Tracksthegeneral (talk) 23:55, 2 February 2021 (UTC)Tracksthegeneral

Hi Tracksthegeneral. Why would you post this when the issue is conclusive? Do you think if you just boldly assert "alternate facts" somehow it'll make it so? I know you know you copied and pasted swaths of the content, so I post this for the benefit of others. Sunshine is very illuminating:

Draft:

"...at age 8, dedicated to leading the charge in educating and empowering communities to live happy, healthy lifestyles" ... and "began making YouTube videos sharing with the world ways to have a happy heart through exercising and eating healthy."

Subject's website:

"...at age 8, dedicated to leading the charge in educating and empowering communities to live happy, healthy lifestyles" ... and "began making YouTube videos sharing with the world ways to have a happy heart through exercising and eating healthy.

Despite the Draft having been first posted today, to tie it up any possible loose end, here's a snapshot of the external page in the Internet Archive from October 19, 2020, with the same content (so no, this content was not copied from the draft to her website). And no, it doesn't end there, that's just an example.

Draft:

"Encouraged by her parents to research more about the heart and cardiology, Savanna soon fell in love with the heart and its impact on the human body... Savanna learned that 1 in 5 of her peers were suffering from childhood obesity...

Amazon blurb:

Encouraged by her parents to research the heart and cardiology, Savanna soon fell in love with the heart and its impact on the human body... Savanna learned that 1 in 3 of her peers were also suffering from childhood obesity...

Especially given the brazen post above, I have little doubt if I looked further I'd find further. Care to explain yourself?

I have now deleted your repost, which falsely claimed in the re-creation edit summary "fixing all the copyright issues." If you repost the draft again with any copied content, including close paraphrasing, you will be subject to an immediate block from further editing.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Fuhghettaboutit (talk Thanks so much for showing me where the article was copyrighted. I will fix this quickly. Thanks again for the feedback! Let me know if you find anything else wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tracksthegeneral (talk • contribs) 02:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

What am I doing wrong?

 Courtesy link: Draft:Caroline Blazovsky

Hi there! I have an article being published about Caroline Blazovsky and it's been denied due to "unreliable sources" -- I am curious as to what makes something reliable or not. These are articles/references from well known magazines and news outlets.

It is also mentioning that it sounds like it's from a first person point of view when it is not. Any notes would be much appreciated.

Thanks! Elizasnook3 (talk) 01:20, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Elizasnook3, welcome to the Teahouse. The most recent declination comment is concerned that the language being used reads as promotional, such as Blazovsky is an environmental consultant, home investigator, and media personality who promotes healthier living spaces and improving overall wellness for individuals (emphasis added).
Also, remove all the external links from the body; they don't belong there. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:36, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Can I redirect category talk page to mainspace talk page?

I noticed that category talk page is often badly maintain or never maintain at all. Occassionally, users would ask question there, however no one would reply.

Hence, can I redirect the category talk page to the mainspace/article talk space. For instance, if the category is related to Toyota say Category talk:Toyota platforms, can I redirect it to Talk:Toyota and adding {{Rcat shell|{{R from remote page}}}} to the category talk page since it's more likely, the dicussion(s) would get answered in the mainspace talk page as it's more actively maintained and watched. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 02:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Paper9oll: Even if rarely noticed, we still do need a separate category talk page for discussions about that category. There is a notice saying "talk pages in this namespace are generally not watched by many users" when you try to edit a category talk page. {{R from remote talk page}} isn't really supposed to be used this way. If you take a look at Category:Redirects from remote talk pages, you'll see that it's mostly used in subpages to make sure people don't start discussions there. There's only 16 pages that use this template in the Category talk namespace, and 14 of them are by an inactive WikiProject. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 03:29, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: Noted, thanks for the reply. I asked it because there's no documentations regarding the proper usage of the template and also in regards to centralized discussion (whether category is part of it as it wasn't mentioned). Anyway thanks you. — Paper9oll (📣 • 📝) 03:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Edits reverted for being not "constructive?"

Recently had some edits done to the Sneaker collecting wiki reverted for not being "constructive." Could someone explain why this would have been flagged, how to prevent it in the future and how to get my edits in? Any help would be appreciated, thanks! 67.128.125.123 (talk) 03:52, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

So.... in this edit, you wrote a new term "Bricks" and used the "Auto" reference. However, the reference does not say such. Nearly everything on Wikipedia must be referenced. You later removed the reference, and add another term with no reference. That is basically "uncontructive". You can reinstate your edits, but please have it supported by reliable sources that actually say so. GeraldWL 04:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey there

How can I learn to edit Wikipedia? Darth Jenner (Use The Force) 04:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Sockmanwoman, try out WP:The Wikipedia Adventure. GeraldWL 04:20, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Gerald Waldo Luis: WP:DFTT Someone who creates an "I am a sockpuppet" template with his first edit, and hides his disruptive username is not a new user. is not acting in good faith. Meters (talk) 04:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Meters, oh f***. GeraldWL 04:45, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

How can I add custom fields to the template:infoxbox person?

I want to add custom fields, that aren't actually a part of the infobox person template. Is there a way to achieve this? MrAyushBajpai (talk) 04:41, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

No. Some infobox templates have extra fields that can be user-defined, but I don't believe the person template has them. See template:infobox person. Note that there is provision for embedding other templates in the person template if that will serve. Meters (talk) 04:48, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Edit warring

Hi- Sorry I'm sure you've gotten this question a million times but I'm having trouble navigating this site. I've got a dispute over content on the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Anthony and an anonymous user who is trying to pretend they are unbiased (but that's silly) keeps adding and removing content. I tried posting on the talk page for that page, but I don't understand who sees that. If it's only him (her?) then I don't suspect we'll get very far. Thanks for your help. AnnieBee3 (talk) 17:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

AnnieBee3, welcome to the Teahouse. Please have a look at WP:EW and especially WP:AVOIDEDITWAR where you will everything about Edit Warring, in the meantime we will have a look on the edits at this article. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:57, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Much of the content of Dave Anthony is cited to sources written by Anthony, or to which he was a major contributor. Such citations, and the content based on them, should be removed. Maproom (talk) 08:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Article Live Update

Hi, I submitted an article (Name : SportsTiger) last day. When will Wikipedia live that article? Kartiksinghh (talk) 06:28, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Kartiksinghh, Draft:SportsTiger is still awaiting a review. Please be patient. GeraldWL 06:32, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Any tentative publishing time, Gerald ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kartiksinghh (talk • contribs) 06:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Article reviewing can take days, weeks, or months. Depends on how fast reviewers get through 'em. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 06:49, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Kartiksinghh, your draft is extremely brief and one sentence has 11 references. Both of those are red flags for reviewers. See WP:REFBOMB. If there are so many references, then why isn't there much more to say about the topic? Is it perhaps that the references are to passing mentions or are generated by company PR or say nothing new about the topic? The draft looks rushed and very strange. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:52, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Cullen, Thanks for feedback. Then how we improve our article? Please suggest! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kartiksinghh (talk • contribs) 08:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Kartiksinghh, not a suggestion, but may I ask what do you mean by "we"? Are you a paid editor? GeraldWL 08:04, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Well, Kartiksingh has already made a paid editor disclosure on their user page, regardless of what they say below – and is presumably the new account of User:Sportstigerapp who was blocked for violating the user name policy. (This is not a block violation, because such blocks encourage the user to create a new account with a different user name.) --bonadea contributions talk 08:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

No, am not paid editor. Sorry for mistake! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kartiksinghh (talk • contribs) 08:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

AS noted by b, Your User page states paid editor. David notMD (talk) 08:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

The first of several questions

I Looked through the reliable sources list and discovered that I had found several sources that were not present on the list as reliable or unreliable such as Gematsu,Dual Shockers Nintendo life. If this get's answered I'll add the rest.

P.S. Thank you for your time and I appreciate any advice. Vessel of Domination (talk) 20:21, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Vessel of Domination (talk) 20:21, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Vessel of Domination. That list cannot possibly be all inclusive. I suggest that you also search the archives of the Reliable sources noticeboard. If you are still in doubt about a specific source, you can start a discussion of that source there. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:26, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: You can find a specific list of sources for video games here. Gematsu and Nintendo Life are listed as reliable, while Dualshockers.com is listed as unreliable. SK2242 (talk) 09:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

how to move an article bc of a name change

Hi, I'm Johnny Burgin, and used to go by Rockin' Johnny Burgin, but I dropped the Rockin' a couple of years ago. I'd love to move the article from Rockin' Johnny Burgin to Johnny Burgin, but since I just set up my account, I'm not sure I can move it, I cannot see any move tab. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockin%27_Johnny_Burgin

Please advise. thank you Noborderblues (talk) 07:58, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia policy is for the name of an article to be the name by which the subject is usually known. I see that all eight of the sources listed in Rockin' Johnny Burgin refer to you as "Rockin' Johnny Burgin". Maproom (talk) 08:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Noborderblues, welcome to the Teahouse! What Maproom said. If the situation has changed, sources are needed to show it, you can read the "rule" at WP:COMMONNAME. Cat Stevens is one example. Another thing: per WP:Conflict of interest, please don't edit the article about you directly, but you are welcome to suggest changes and sources at the article's talkpage, Talk:Rockin' Johnny Burgin. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Help with images and copyright

Background

I am the daughter of an artist who passed away in 1999. During the pandemic I went through a large collection of information about him and digitized it. Both of my parents have passed away so my sister and I have the copyright for his artwork. I signed up to be a Wikipedia contributor/editor and have created a page about my father in my sandbox. I have a COI statement as well. I have photographs of my father's artwork that I would like to include in a Gallery section of his Wikipedia page. Some photographs are taken by me or my parents and some by museums.

Questions

For pictures taken by me/my parents: should I include copyright information in the metadata "Roswell Weidner Estate"? How will this affect the media in WikiMedia Commons? For pictures taken by institutions with copyright information in the metadata: I am working with the institutions to get their permission to post their images or should they post their images in WikiMedia Commons Categories for their institution? One of the institutions I am talking with already has a large number of items in a WikiMedia Category: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Paintings_in_the_Pennsylvania_Academy_of_the_Fine_Arts Is there a similar forum in WikiMedia Commons that I should address these questions to? Thank you. ArtLover113 (talk) 17:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@ArtLover113: When you post artwork, or images, on Wikipedia, it must be freely licensed. That means in short: it must be free for re-use, by anyone, for any reason, as long as they provide attribution. That includes to make money. That doesn't mean you can't also make money off it, but that anyone else can too. That's why we have so few images of some things on Wikipedia, because folks are unwilling to release their photos in that way. However, if you fully understand the implications of uploaded images, we would love to have them. Let me know if you need clarification on how free licenses work here. AdmiralEek (talk) 17:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

If you need more detailed guidance about issues of upload to Commons, there is a "Help desk similar to the one here". that you could use. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:57, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

ArtLover113, User:ArtLover113/sandbox is a very well-done draft; nice work! When you're finished working on it, feel free to give me a ping (use {{Ping|Sdkb}}) and I'll be happy to move it to mainspace for you. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

ArtLover113 The Early life and training section has lots of unreferenced content. Same for Personal life. Sadly, what you know to be true cannot be included without citations. David notMD (talk) 09:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Possible self-editor

Hi, I think I found someone that's exclusively editing content about themselves. Should I do something about this? Thanks. Xurizuri (talk) 10:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Xurizuri, welcome to the Teahouse! Guidance at WP:COICOIN. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Private Space on Wikipedia which can be viewed by others but not deleted or edited?

This discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
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Is it possible to create a 'private area' on Wikipedia(like you can on some sites or platforms)whose content cannot be edited or deleted? It might be an area where you wish to air your views about a range of matters without feeling that you are going to be 'jumped on' or have your work deleted or edited when you want neither. Or is everything on Wikipedia accessible by others so there is no room for privacy whatsoever or a 'personal space' which cannot be 'invaded'? Mahler johnson (talk) 11:31, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Mahler johnson (talk) 11:31, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Mahler johnson All pages on Wikipedia are visible to the public, there are no private areas. Some pages are more visible than others; pages in Draft space aren't easy to find unless you know where to look, but all edits appear in the Recent Changes feed which is monitored by many different people at all hours. Sandboxes allow for experimentation and generally others do not edit them, but they are not immune from deletion processes(such as if someone is promotionally editing in their sandbox, or copyright violations). If you want to talk about Wikipedia or write something without others knowing about it here, you will have to do it off-wiki. 331dot (talk) 11:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC) e/c Yes within reason it's your user page here User:Mahler johnson please read WP:UPNOT for what you can put there. Theroadislong (talk) 11:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Mahler johnson I'll add that if you want to say, draft an article and get it the way you want it before submitting it for review, you can do that in a word processing program on your computer/phone before actually transferring the text here and submitting it. That's not an uncommon thing to do. 331dot (talk) 11:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC) @Mahler johnson: No, there is no 'private space' at Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a free Web hosting service, where you can put anything you want for as long as want. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia, you're free to contribute here if it serves building the encyclopedia, according to the project's policies. If you want to publish in the Web and have your contents safe from modification by other users, you need to buy appropriate service from some web-hosting company or start one on your own. --CiaPan (talk) 13:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Essentially, the answer is 'No'. There is no personal space which can be viewed but cannot be 'invaded' by others for modification or deletion. In other words, there is no real, authentic, anonymity. That is somewhat disappointing. Never mind, I have the choice to quit or remain under such conditions.Mahler johnson (talk) 11:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Which begs the question why would you want such a space? Theroadislong (talk) 11:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Because I am human and, like all humans, value anonymity and the free expression of my identity. Which begs the question why anyone would want to ask such an invasive question. Mahler johnson (talk) 12:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC) This is a project to build an encyclopaedia, there are plenty of social media sites for your "free expression of identity". Theroadislong (talk) 12:06, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Mahler johnson (ec) I'm curious as to how you want to express your identity and remain anonymous at the same time- those goals seem incompatible. In any event, as noted, Wikipedia is not a forum for free expression. As you were told, your user page is a place where you can tell the Wikipedia community about yourself in the context of you as a Wikipedia editor, and in general it will not be edited by others, unless content that violates guidelines is placed there. If you just want a space where you can do what you wish with it, you won't find that on Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 12:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC) And 'a project to build an encyclopaedia' is incompatible with an allotted space for the free expression of the individual? Oh Dear...The fact that the expression of identity is itself a social act means that it can only take place within such an environment. Anonymity simply means freedom of individual thought under such conditions. They are not incompatible. You have interpreted the term 'anonymous' too literally. However, where such conditions are so restrictive that they are verging on the dictatorial, then that, in my view, is not an enriching experience for all but rather like having the 'freedom' you have in being in a cage. I expected a negative and a 'piss off then' reaction from devotees. I expected to be 'jumped on' and that is precisely what has happened. Mahler johnson (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:21, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Mahler johnson No one has told you to "piss off", but if you think that asking a question and getting an answer is "being jumped on", I don't think Wikipedia is the place for you. We want you to participate, and we are willing to help you learn how to do so, but what you want to do doesn't seem compatible with Wikipedia's purpose. Wikipedia is not a place intended for the free expression of the individual, and has guidelines and policies for its content. I'm sorry you see these things as "dictatorial", because they aren't. 331dot (talk) 12:30, 3 February 2021 (UTC) No one has explicitly told me to "piss off" unless you class telling somebody to go to other sites as a 'piss off' implicitly. That is what I mean by "jumped on". When I first made an enquiry about sourcing and referencing a few days ago, one editor implied that I was trying to get pages deleted. My question has been answered. This site is too authoritarian with its highly restrictive guidelines and criteria. They are so restrictive that one feels there is no anonymity for individuals whatsoever. It's almost Orwellian. After a few days on it, I am starting to feel like a rugby player at the bottom of a collapsed scrum. Or perhaps like a budgerigar in a tree full of sparrows. I have had enough already. Can somebody show me the way to get out of here? Please.....Thank You... Mahler johnson (talk) 12:44, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Mahler johnson I was simply suggesting alternatives that might be better suited for what it is that you wish to do. If you want to participate here, you are welcome and free to do so, but you seem to have issues with this collaborative environment and guidelines. I'm sorry that you feel as you do, but it's your choice. You may simply stop using your account. A courtesy vanishing may be an option for you as well. Best wishes to you. 331dot (talk) 12:48, 3 February 2021 (UTC) No. I do not have so-called "issues" with so-called "collaboration". I have worked in a highly social profession all my life where working closely and cooperatively with people has been part of the job, a part of my life. So please do not make unfounded allegations. As I have stated, my experience of this outfit is that its structures and practices are authoritarian. There is no room for something which is intrinsically human and that is independence and anonymity : the discreteness of my existence as a person. It is so authoritarian that I do not(or rather seems that I do not)have access to the withdrawing and deleting of my 'account'. All I wish to do is press a few buttons, delete my presence here (as I could on most sites) and say goodbye but even that is not possible. Hotel California. Mahler johnson (talk) 13:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Mahler johnson For both technical and legal reasons, it is not possible to delete an account; all edits must be attributable to someone. The best we can do is a vanishing, as I described. Is there a certain policy with which you disagree? There is nothing "authoritarian" about community consensus and discussion to get there. I'd love to work out this problem with you if you really want to contribute. 331dot (talk) 13:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC) My "disagreements" are clear from my posts on this section. Stalin and Hitler also referred to "community" and "consensus". It is time for me to go. This is my final post. To leave this place of no room for individual anonymity and expression. I do not wish to "contribute" under such conditions where others are asking me why I am asking legitimate questions. It is rather like being monitored in a police state. Posts from Wikipedia to my email will be blocked. I would appreciate it if somebody 'vanished' my presence. What an awful inhuman expression! And then turn the light out.....Thank You Mahler johnson (talk) 13:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

As also requested I'm trying to turn the light out. No lasting success so far B . Zindor (talk) 13:52, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Alvin the Architect - Music Artist

I've recently been trying to create an artist page for Alvin the Architect but keep getting denied due to a lack of "notability." Thus, I wanted to know what will need to take place in order to get register the artist's Wikipedia page. Alvinthearchitect (talk) 13:52, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

By "artist page" I suppose you mean "article". He'll have to attain notability -- about which, please see Wikipedia:Notability. When this happens, people other than Alvin himself are likely to want to create an article about him. If at first they don't, then the article can wait until they do. -- Hoary (talk) 14:04, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Alvinthearchitect: Addition to Hoary, I spot two issues. The first one is your references. I see that there only 3 references from the same website. Please read over Wikipedia:INTREF4 for reliable sources to include onto your draft. The last issue I see is that you are that person, I assume. If I'm wrong, please let me know. But, the reason why I'm saying that is because your username is the title of the draft article you're trying to write about. Please read over COS for information about conflict of interest and how to maintain a neutral tone while writing about a living person that you might have a close relationship with. I hope this helps! Jack Reynolds (talk to me!) (email me!!) 14:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

My conflict of interest at the Old Royal Naval College as i need to replace the whole text about this charity

I am a volunteer at the Old Royal Naval College (it is a charity). I have agreed to help this charity and update the content of their Wikipedia page, but I am a little bit confused about my declaration of the conflict of interest.

Where do I need to put a 'sign' that there is a conflict of interest when I log in?

I have found this line; please see below. What do I need to do with it? [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] · [[Special:Contribs/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) ORNC-W2020 (talk) 19:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Please advise. Thank you for your help. ORNC-W2020 (talk) 19:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

ORNC-W2020 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You may make the conflict of interest declaration on your user page (User:ORNC-W2020) and you should on the article talk page of the charity's article(it's an article, not a mere "page"). The article talk page is where you should make formal edit requests(click for instructions), detailing changes you feel are needed, preferably sourced to independent reliable sources, as that is primarily what Wikipedia articles summarize.

Please understand that the article is about the charity; it does not belong to the charity and its has no special rights to the article- but your input is welcome. 331dot (talk) 20:06, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I will add that while there are templates you can use, it's enough to just make a simple statement. Don't necessarily worry about the formatting yet. 331dot (talk) 20:06, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Dear 331dot, thank you. please let me know where exactly i can declare my conflict of interest on my page? I have written it on my 'user talk page'. is it right? thank you. ORNC-W2020 (talk) 15:01, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

ORNC-W2020 That's sufficient(to post it on your user talk page) but you might want to post it on your user page (User:ORNC-W2020), as your user talk page is meant for communication with you. 331dot (talk) 15:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Considering Leaving

I am considering leaving Wikipedia and want to take my work with me. Can I do that?

==Feb 2021==
If you "do not want to be here" why are you still posting there? Please read wp:not and wp:nothere (also wp:talk might be helpful. Talk pages are not forums to discuss Wikipedia (or to tell us you do not want to be here) or the topic, they are there to propose improvements.Slatersteven (talk) 12:56, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't think I belong here anymore. SBohrman (talk) 13:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Every time you wrote something for Wikipedia, you did so immediately above a notice that told you that by doing so "you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL". So no, you can't remove your contributions. -- Hoary (talk) 13:33, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you.SBohrman (talk) 13:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Note I was not informed about this. My post refers to a series of messages like this one [[2]].Slatersteven (talk) 15:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Acts of Vandalism against Dream11

Hi there, I want to bring it to everyone's attention that there is an IP address who continues to make misleading changes to

1. REDIRECT Dream11 . I need to understand if there are measures that one could take to avoid such acts of vandalism? RohitSridhar1994 (talk) 15:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC) RohitSridhar1994 (talk) 15:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

RohitSridhar1994, welcome to the Teahouse. Please have a close look at the following for the future: Wikipedia:How to deal with vandalism and Wikipedia:Edit warring. In the meantime I have requested a semi protection for the article and warned the IP user. CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for a speedy response, I also recommend you to go through the article's talkpage for clarity. RohitSridhar1994 (talk) 16:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

RohitSridhar1994, I read the talk page before, anyway the IP user has been blocked for one week. CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

A stray (

Article Henry A. Wise, note 26, ahead of the author's last name there is a stray ( without balancing ). I can't figure out how it got there, or how to remove it. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 16:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi deisenbe. I guess you mean a curly {. I have removed it.[3] PrimeHunter (talk) 16:33, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

How can I update the title of an article?

Bipolar UK was formerly MDF:the Bipolar organisation. I have updated the text of the article to reflect this, but do not know how to change the title - can anyone help please? Pineappleshake (talk) 16:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Pineappleshake Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Changing the title of an article requires a page move; you may request this at Requested Moves. 331dot (talk) 16:49, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

From Vikipedi to Wikipedia

Hello, I have a Turkish wikipedia (Vikipedi) page, all the written information has been checked and verified , if I want to open a page in the English wikipedia, can I use all this information ? Is this information valid for English Wikipedia ? Thank You Cenk Taşkan (talk) 15:42, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

What is the topic? deisenbe (talk) 16:21, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Each language Wiki has different standards for what are considered reliable source references. English considered more rigid. Process will be easier if there are some English language references, although Turkish refs can be used. Other Teahouse hosts will provide guidance on translation process. David notMD (talk) 16:49, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Cenk Taşkan, welcome to the Teahouse. Pages from a different Wikipedia project can be translated into another (WP:TRANSLATION has the information you're looking for), but be aware that guidelines and policies may differ between the two projects (such as notability criteria). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:29, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

How to add photo and edit info on fathers wikipedia info

My fathers info ( DANE LUSSIER screenwriter ) needs some additions and corrections. Would also like to add his photo and misc. info also correct couple dates. How do I do this please? Thanks, Dane Lussier Jr. 2603:8000:7043:7429:A880:2159:7739:21EE (talk) 17:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Dane Lussier Jr. In order to upload a photo, you will need to open an account, and make at least ten edits over a period of at least four days. You have a conflict of interest regarding your father, which you should disclose on your user page. You should not edit the article directly. Instead, make a formal edit request at Talk:Dane Lussier. You will need to provide reliable sources supporting the additions and changes you want to make. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:41, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Edit

Hello I was wondering why some text that is not wrong gets erased, and if there is a way to get it back. Jmegahey520 (talk) 17:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Jmegahey520 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I assume this refers to your edits to Steve Jordan (drummer). Your edits used Wikipedia as a source; Wikipedia cannot be used as a source in Wikipedia articles as that is circular reasoning and Wikipedia is not a reliable source. I think it might help you to use the new user tutorial to learn more about how Wikipedia operates. 331dot (talk) 17:47, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

How to use a preexisting category so i can add pages that fit under the preexisting category.

I would like to know how to do this so i can help make Wikipedia a better place. Starman2377 (talk) 18:30, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Starman2377: Categories are added by simply adding the name of the Category at the end of an article just like a normal link, e.g. [[Category:Wikipedia Teahouse]]. You can also use a tool like HotCat which allows you to quickly add, change or remove categories without editing directly. Regards SoWhy 18:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Upload Image from Mobile

I'm at work all day and everything is really slow so I've been doing minor edits to articles on my android phone (using the website on firefox). I wanted to go through and add the cover art for podcasts, but when I tap on "Upload locally to Wikipedia" it appears to just refresh the page or link back to the page I'm on (WP:FUW). Is the page broken or is uploading non-free content not supported on mobile? TipsyElephant (talk) 17:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@TipsyElephant: The File Upload Wizard fails for the mobile website because the withJS URL param does not work on mobile. In addition, it looks like the desktop website fails as well due to coding errors in cross-browser-support. I am afraid that you will likely have to switch to a desktop computer for file uploads, or (Only recommended if you know for sure what you are doing) use the plain upload form which does not do the template code stuff for you. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Music artist wilkepedia page

Am on the right track? Here’s my draft

Draft:Mike Devoe  Syent713 (talk) 19:52, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Syent713 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. It's probably disappointing and frustrating to hear, but I must be honest. The first thing I see is that it lacks independent reliable sources to support its content. A Wikipedia article summarizes what independent reliable sources state about article subjects, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of (in this case) a notable musician. Please see your first article for more information. 331dot (talk) 19:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Spam website link

In the Rhythm and Blues Music Hall of Fame page there is a hotlink to a website that may have been legit at one time but it is now spam. I don't know how to change the three references to www.rbhof.com but it could be dangerous. It appears that www.rbhof.com does not exist anymore or has been hijacked. Perhaps a more experienced person can fix this? Thanks very much. Regards, Randy Randy Edward (talk) 17:44, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Here is a link to save some time in dealing with this Rhythm and Blues Music Hall of Fame (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). MarnetteD|Talk 17:49, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

 41.191.107.195 (talk) 18:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I added some '', and found this archive link of it. Not sure where to put it, so here it is for others. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 20:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

How to get my article approved

Hello, I submitted an article on the Cedar Falls Authors Festival, a wonderful year of programs that focused on the five nationally known, best selling authors with ties to Cedar Falls. I thought it was another way to educate the public about these authors. I was not trying to promote it. It is OVER! My reviewers did not seem to get it. I got discouraged and worked on other projects and now I cannot find my draft. Where is it? How do I fix it? Thanks, folks Professorpost Professorpost (talk) 20:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Professorpost Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The good news is that your draft was only deleted for inactivity(six months) so I have restored it. That's why you couldn't find it. There does seem to be a concern that some of the content could be copied; that will need to be rewritten. The draft seems like a good accounting of the festival- however that's not what Wikipedia is for. Wikipedia exists to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about an event like a festival, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable event. The article should talk about the event itself, not those associated with it or those that the event features.

If you are associated with this event, you will need to read about conflict of interest and paid editing for information on formal disclosures you may need to make. 331dot (talk) 20:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Aathira Rajeev

Hello,

Why is Aathira Rajeev not notable? She has won an international realty TV show and also some local/state beauty competition. Can you please have a look? Solvz (talk) 20:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Aathira Aalinkeel Rajeev --Paul ❬talk❭ 20:40, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Solvz Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please review the Wikipedia definition of a notable actor (or actress); this is the definition that you will need to show wit significant coverage in independent reliable sources that this person meets- or the more general notable person definition. You have not offered any independent reliable sources to support the content of the article. IMDB is not considered a reliable source as it is user-editable(like Wikipedia). 331dot (talk) 20:44, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Ho to create Company Page

Thanks for given me the opportunity of joining this great medium. Is it proper to put paid editor on company page? 3CHUBBML (talk) 17:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

3CHUBBML Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia does not have "company pages", it has articles about companies. Those articles are typically written by independent editors, to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. Wikipedia has no interest in what a company wants to say about itself.

You should make the paid editing declaration on your user page, User:3CHUBBML. 331dot (talk) 17:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, have updated the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3CHUBBML (talk • contribs) 18:33, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Status: User blocked and User:3CHUBBML/sandbox at Speedy deletion. David notMD (talk) 20:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Conflicting guidance

I have a question. I realize under MOS:JOBTITLES that common noun titles shouldn't be capitalized. However, there's MOS:SPECIFICLINK that suggests linking to a specific page instead of breaking up the linkage. So my question is, should something like United States Secretary of State be stylized as [[United States Secretary of State|United States secretary of state]] because of MOS:JOBTITLES or is the solution to be [[United States Secretary of State]] because of MOS:SPECFICLINK?

Secondly, what sense does it make to put the job title as lowercase in the article, but leave as the original (not lowercase) in the infobox or is an infobox policed under different rules? Snickers2686 (talk) 18:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Snickers2686. As far as I can tell there is no conflict. When you say MOS:SPECIFICLINK suggests not "breaking up the linkage", you seem to have interpreted that as advising against piping a link (such as to make a specific title lowercase, in order to follow MOS:JOBTITLES' rule for a generic use); that piping the link is "breaking up the linkage"; it is not. The heart of MOS:SPECIFICLINK's guidance is that, in most cases, a link should send the user to the most specific topic appropriate to the context, rather than to related but less specific topic, i.e., linking to [[Icelandic orthography]] is better than linking to [[Icelandic language|Icelandic]] orthography

So, if it is appropriate in a context to link to an article that is a job title as the most specific link, and the use is generic, then piping the link to a lowercase presentation in order to follow MOS:JOBTITLES, meets MOS:SPECIFICLINK on all fours, because you're still linking to the more specific topic.

Lastly, I don't think the infobox use should be treated differently. It its use is in the generic, it gets lowercased, and if not, not. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Wanted to edit a title

Hi there, got a measure that my edit wasn't constructive. Just wanted to add an "a" to the name of William Peagler. His page seems to have his name typo'd:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Pegler

His official bio even shows his name spelled "Peagler"

https://msuspartans.com/staff-directory/william-peagler/585 76.185.27.192 (talk) 22:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and restored your version along with a page move to the correct surname. Thanks for your contributions! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Question on reliable sources

(Redacted) I know that UGC websites and self published media are unreliable, but what else is not a good source? Darubrub (talk) 22:01, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Darubrub: If you're just trying to get a sense of what is reliable and what isn't, you can visit Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. There's also code that automatically blocks blacklisted sites from being added to articles, and sometimes you won't know until you try to save the edit with the source. I'm not sure how to interpret your announcement that you've been banned from devforums. Hopefully you will have a more constructive experience here. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! I didn't knew there is a list of blacklisted websites. Darubrub (talk) 22:49, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Jimmy MacDonald sound effects artist

User:Jaqor1

I am having great difficulty in editing Jimmy MacDonald's 'Citizenship' which should read British / Uniited States and not (Scottish / United States).

I have also supplied a Birth certificate (via url) to support Jimmy MacDonald's correct Birth Place (Crewe, Cheshire, UK) and not (Dundee Scotland).

On my recent review of the page - 'Jimmy MacDonald Sound Effects Artist' a tag has been added (citation needed) regarding birth place change,

My belief is that the Birth Certificate supplied (via url*) verifys both (Birth place Crewe - citation needed) and (Citizenship - British / United States).

I have attempted to edit these items but appear to be making a hash of it, which is not my wish at all. Jaqor1 (talk) 09:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Url* https://p13.zdusercontent.com/attachment/315404/pEXBk680g9LTgrGVRwGnI1ciU?token=eyJhbGciOiJkaXIiLCJlbmMiOiJBMTI4Q0JDLUhTMjU2In0..vtPsPNpgkQxp1XQ_2-tccg.xInhezDxeoiR9-_dF91yXYxpJ2yzzstcCCP1xrZ_2XonOuDAVC_19AvRHSrK4xcGxOZQ5OYVoINVRXaujZbmnF7GbAQv0jpqGF_1Ti18G-NkcEGUtscXTiEbr2vjsEQrJ5gdt0lNcppa2ibiBu37ottuMn688kC0g6cCzCNSdneT9V2B0jKjs2UXCsJ9Xp29spPJiuiUsMIOjuWGKNqwuTw5-kWcJ4yGa5Ksnf10FKr7QD8Cc_CQF82RmlQ-jbIthEdBZfMISbIBDrucrzKLmofIt69xjUyo6xLVIqdnxps.-LhprkK33ID1jKqV7w8gTA

Jaqor1 (talk) 22:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Jaqor1 (talk) 22:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

The simplest format for a reference to a web page is "<ref>[http(s)://www.domain.eu/blah/blah/blah.html Title of the page]</ref>", after stripping the session ID and other junk from the link. I have fixed this for you. But this doesn't address the problem of citing a primary source that's hosted by person(s) unknown. -- Hoary (talk) 22:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

. . . and the best place to discuss it is Talk:Jimmy MacDonald (sound effects artist). -- Hoary (talk) 22:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Claims

The Apostolic founders section of the article Apostolic succession repeatedly uses "claims", twice in the opening sentence to the section ("traditional claims" and "the churches claim"), then goes on to list 13 churches or groups of churches that claim apostolic succession, such as, "The See of Rome claims to have been founded by..." Is this a correct use of "claim" on Wikipedia or should all "claims" in the section be changed per MOS:CLAIM? I thought I would ask here for a neutral opinion before either changing it or addressing the issue on the article Talk page. thanks – Epinoia (talk) 02:10, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Epinoia, it's not fundamentally wrong; claim is being used as a noun first and a verb afterwards. Editors could try to use synonyms for it like allege if they feel like switching up verbs. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

But "alleged" is also a word to watch as an expression of doubt, per MOS:ALLEGED – cheers, Epinoia (talk) 02:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Right, but it depends on what the sources say; if that is what they said then that's what they said, regardless of whether it's right or wrong. The MOS is warning against using words that have different meanings; admit and claim do not mean the same thing, while claim and allege are virtually the same, though one can have a little more weight than the other. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Update my Fiance's Wikipedia

 Courtesy link: Jeremy Jackson (fighter)

Hello, I'm new here and I had no idea that I wasn't allowed to update my Fiance's wikipedia (until I tried). He is incarcerated and sent me a letter and spoke of what he wanted to add about his personal life. His references of resource is His book that was published. He has no financial gain but wanted to tell His story. Is there anyone who can help make this happen? Gnesia (talk) 02:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Gnesia, welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately, Wikipedia takes much more stock in reliable sources than in what he has to say. As you are also affiliated with the subject, you should declare a conflict of interest, and refrain from editing the page directly; you may suggest edits via edit requests on the article's talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Gnesia Because of your conflict of interest, which should be declared on your User page (something like "I am Jackson's fiancee."), your path to improving the article is by making specific recommendations on the Talk page, for other editors to decide to incorporate or not. Jackson's book about himself is not considered a reliable source of information. That includes his pre-fighter personal life and the behavior change in prison. David notMD (talk) 03:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

User Pages

Why are unregistered editors not allowed to create their own user pages? 47.227.95.73 (talk) 18:36, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

This is because IPs are not people and it would be useless to make a userpage for a dynamic IP that switches hands every few days or so. IPs have no single identity, just geographical location. 216.12.50.120 (talk) 18:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I would suggest creating an actual Wikipedia account. DestinationFearFan (talk) 18:54, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I was just wondering because I have some user boxes on my talk page that would be more fit if I had a user page. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 21:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Just want to say that IPs can create userpages. See, for example, User:220.101.28.25. GeraldWL 03:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

small question

in editing i use italics very often, so i have a question. when you italicize something, do you have to click off the italic button before hitting the next key or does it not matter? example: Doja Cat released her second album, titled Hot Pink. vs. Doja Cat released her second album, titled Hot Pink.

The difference between the two is that in one sentence, the period is in the italics and in the other the period is out. Does it make a difference? VersaceSpace is wondering why you would request an article when you could just make it yourself... 05:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

VersaceSpace, welcome to the Teahouse. Are you using the visual editor or source editor? Assuming you're using the visual editor, you'd have to turn it off before you start typing anything else. Please also provide a link to your user talk page in your signature. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@VersaceSpace: Leave the period out of the italics. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 05:44, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

VersaceSpace, I agree with Ganbaruby. The period is not a part of the album title, so it should be outside the italics. It makes no difference whether you are using the visual editor or the source editor, where you italicize with wikicode. The principle is the same. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:00, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

The visual editor is a little more finicky, as moving the caret to the last italicised character sets the caret to italicise any following text unless one remembers to turn it off.
Like the others, only the title should be italicised; external punctuation should not. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Measles page

I was hoping to add a short sentence in the Research section about the variety of strains of measles. This appeared to be a logical place to place it along with a reference that gives details of the strains. However the page is semi-protected so how should I proceed. HaraldW1954 (talk) 06:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@HaraldW1954: Make an edit request at the article's talk page. Preferably we want you to write out the exact sentence you want to add, and be sure to include reliable sources. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 07:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

HOW TO KNOW ARTICLE IS GOOD ENOUGH TO PUBLISH A PAGE

1. How to know my article is good enough to publish a page? 2. How do I publish a page? Does it automatically publish a page when my article is accepted after review? MariaWanders (talk) 07:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@MariaWanders: You've submitted Draft:M Lhuillier to the AfC process. A volunteer editor will give you a review; it may be accepted, in which your draft automatically becomes an article, or declined, where the editor will give you instructions on what to improve. There's a lot of drafts to review, so be patient! I am not a reviewer, but I can tell you that your draft will likely be declined because you did not demonstrate that the the subject fulfills the notability guideline. Please read WP:NCORP and find more independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage about the subject. You also need more of these sources to back up every piece of information in the article. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 07:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Article rejected due to notability issue

HI, my article got rejected due to credibility issue. I have submitted all the references and credits as required by the subject. Please tell me what do we, I really want to publish this article. Need Help Roninaks (talk) 07:04, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Roninaks: Draft:One was deleted because it was unambiguous promotion. I can't see what was originally in the draft before it was deleted, but Wikipedia is not a means of promotion since everything must be written in a neutral point of view. If you have a conflict of interest with the subject, you are strongly discouraged from creating an article about it. Please read the conflict of interest guideline and make any relevant disclosures before you try again. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 07:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I can read it. The opening paragraph: Sreenath Gopinath (born September 05, 1993) is an Indian entrepreneur, social activist, e-commerce specialist, cybersecurity expert, innovator and Actor. His entrepreneurship and innovations are guided by his farsighted social perspective and his value-based core competencies has aided, in cofounding four start-up organizations, with positive returns on investments expanding over a time span of three years. And it continues in the same vein. It's a hagiography, obviously promotional. -- Hoary (talk) 07:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Userbox ideas

How long dose it take for a userbox idea to get made? I made a idea in December 31 last year. It's now Feb 3rd, and it has not been made, while all the others have been made. W JennilyW (talk) 23:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps ask at Wikipedia_talk:Userboxes/Ideas? -- Hoary (talk) 00:01, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@JennilyW: Or, make it yourself! Try tinkering around with the various settings that go into it. See WP:UBX. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 01:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@JennilyW: First, I advise patience. Everyone is volunteers, so it may take some time for your request to be processed. Second, you can try asking one of the users listed at Wikipedia:Userboxes#Users_who_make_userboxes_upon_request directly. If you go down that path, then update your previous request to state that you have asked someone directly to make it, so that there is not duplication of effort. RudolfRed (talk) 01:12, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

OK, thank you. JennilyW (talk) 02:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@JennilyW: You don't have to wait; you can build your own userbox using the Userbox template, like this:

UBXThis user can create their own userbox

There are a couple of examples on my user page. --Verbarson (talk) 09:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Which is what User:Ganbaruby has already said, I've just noticed... --Verbarson (talk) 09:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Transcluding an episode table from the main article

I am trying to add the episode table from List of Teacher's Pet episodes but when I try to add the List of Teacher's Pet episodes template, all of the content copied directly from the article will appear instead of just the episode table. Please tell me what to do FlutterDash344 (talk) 05:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@FlutterDash344: Could you clarify what you're trying to do? What are you copying, and where are you trying to put it? Template:List of Teacher's Pet episodes is not a thing, and the article List of Teacher's Pet episodes uses Template:Episode list. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 05:47, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I will try to add Template:Episode list instead. FlutterDash344 (talk) 05:50, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@FlutterDash344: Is [4] what you were trying to do? It requires the target to be marked with <onlyinclude>...</onlyinclude> like [5] to indicate which parts should be transcluded. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Yes, that was exactly what I was trying to do.FlutterDash344 (talk)

Question from Phoenix 7119

Hi. I recently created an article with credible secondary sources about businessman and philanthropist, Wallace Rasmussen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Wallace_Rasmussen

I was told: “This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article.” However, I learned that other references about Rasmussen do exist. So, I located them and added them to my article. As it turns out, Rasmussen was a favorite interview subject of the late oral historian, Studs Terkel. Since Terkel’s oral histories were basically edited transcriptions of recorded interviews of his subjects, lacking very little direct “criticism” from Terkel himself, I located book reviews of Terkel’s books and cited them in my article. To maintain organization, I added all references to Terkel’s books about Rasmussen, as well as the aforementioned book reviews, to my article under the heading “Studs Terkel’s Oral Histories.”

Could you answer a few questions for me please: (1) Does this new section improve Rasmussen’s standing as a subject who “qualifies for a Wikipedia article?” 2) Is my new section, “Studs Terkel’s Oral Histories” sufficient/appropriate? Is the heading appropriate for Wikipedia? If not, what do you recommend?

I’m new to Wikipedia, so I would certainly appreciate your thoughts and assistance. Thank you for your time. Phoenix7119 (talk) 03:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Phoenix7119. If the reviews of Terkel's books devote significant coverage to Rasmussen, then they contribute to Rasmussen's notability and are useful in your draft. Otherwise, they are of no value in an article about Rasmussen but may possibly be useful in articles about Terkel and his books. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC

Phoenix7119, I went through those book reviews. Some do not mention Rasmussen. Others mention him in passing but do not devote significant coverage to him. I noticed one that had a quotation from him but the author didn't spend more than a handful of words describing him. None appeared to devote significant coverage to him, as far as I saw, and to me, they do not add up to notability. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:52, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Cullen 328 Thanks for the advice. I'm going to use it to make the necessary changes to my article. Thanks so much for your time. Phoenix7119 (talk) 10:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

How to add articles with a weblink to add information to a Wiki pagw

Hi, I want to submit online articles to add info to a Wiki Page Scoony11 (talk) 23:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Scoony11: I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Could you make your question more specific? ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 01:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Scoony11, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you are, as you say, a close relative of Glenn Hetrick, then you should not be editing the article about him directly, but should be making edit requests on the talk page instead, according to PSCOI. For information about the (quite restrictive) rules on external links in articles, please see WP:External links. --ColinFine (talk) 12:30, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Making a wiki page

can anyone make a wiki page for me 103.151.184.206 (talk) 12:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Almost certainly not, unless you make a proposal that's somehow attractive. -- Hoary (talk) 13:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not social media. Subjects of biographical articles must meet specific definitions of notability. Editors are strongly advised against trying to create an article about themselves. David notMD (talk) 13:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Is my article approved?

Hello, I would like to know if the article I wrote on YesWeHack, a cybersecurity company, is published. I asked for an approval and someone kindly moved it from draft to the main page two days ago. I can now find it within Wikipedia but if I'm searching for it on a motor engine, with, for instance, "YesWeHack wikipedia", the page I created does not appear. My question is: is there a delay for the article to appear on a motor engine? Or should I do something else because the article was not properly published? Thank you in advance! Mathbsnd (talk) 09:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Mathbsnd, the article has been in the mainspace, so yes it has been approved. Wikipedia has no control on whether search engines display this site on their knowledge panel, although we know that they can display it. It's probably just a matter of luck. But that doesn't matter -- you made an article, and that's already great. GeraldWL 10:04, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Mathbsnd, the page isn't marked as reviewed yet so it's set to no_index, so likely won't appear in search engines. After it's reviewed or after 90 days, whichever is sooner, it'll be available for search engines to index. Regards, Zindor (talk) 11:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Per what Zindor wrote, Wikipedia has a new articles patrol process. Either it clears the no-index within 90 days, or if no one gets to it, happens automatically at 90 days. No way for you to speed up the process. David notMD (talk) 11:36, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I have moved the article to draft as it appears to be a paid for article which bypassed the review process? Theroadislong (talk) 11:56, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: draft:YesWeHack TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:52, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm completely lost!

Hi, I'm trying to write a Wiki for the Doreen Valiente Foundation, and also the Centre For Pagan Studies, also one for the man who founded these 2 organisations, John Belham-Payne - I'm his widow. I keep being reminded that I am close to all of these subjects and have a conflict of interest, but honestly they are charities, and Im interested in telling the correct version of events in their development. Believe me, I am the only person who knows enough about these things to be able to or to be interested in writing a page. I'm doing a bit at a time, as I discover things from family and colleagues. Can you give me some suggestions on what I need to do to fulfil your criteria please? Is there someone who would "hold my hand"

Thank you in advance. Julie Joolspayne (talk) 12:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Joolspayne Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. One does not "write a wiki", as a wiki is a type of entire website of which Wikipedia is one example. One writes a Wikipedia article. I am sorry for your loss. I would say that if you just want to tell the world about your husband and the organizations he founded, and document their histories, there are other venues where that is permitted. Wikipedia is only interested in what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen to say about a topic, showing how the topic meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. Wikipedia content cannot be based on personal knowledge for verification purposes- again, there are places where you can post whatever you wish without these requirements. 331dot (talk) 12:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy links Draft:Centre For Pagan Studies and Draft:John Belham-Payne. Theroadislong (talk) 12:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I have to say that, if true, "I am the only person who knows enough about these things to be able to or to be interested in writing a page" makes it sound as if "these things" don't belong on Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 13:29, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Given your close personal knowledge and connection to these proposed topics, you must include only information that rests on reliable source references. Not you, not family, not colleagues. Only published by people with no connection to the Centre or to John. If you cannot find reliable sources, no amount of information collecting and writing will succeed in becoming an article. The website of the Centre For Pagan Studies does not qualify as confirming notability. If you do find sources - no copying - as that is a forbidden copyright violation (a problem you ran afoul of about the Foundation). David notMD (talk) 14:49, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Well there are references to him in books like the biography of Doreen Valiente - Witch by Philip Heselton, The Charge of the Goddess book of poems by Doreen Valiente, etc . The Pagan Federation too, as he was an active committee member there. He spoke at The Parliament of World Religions there is a reference there. I'll start to rephrase his page and the others too. I think I've got the hang of it now. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joolspayne (talk • contribs) 14:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Refs

How do I put titles on refs? I added a ref to a page, and it was red and it said "Title=". How do I add it? JennilyW (talk) 02:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@JennilyW: You need to go into whatever citation template you're using and add |title= in it. Give the title after the =. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:05, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi JennilyW. The url isn't enough to identify the sourse since web pages move around. See the citation form at Template:Cite web and be sure to include the title of the page, the publisher (name of the website), and the access date for the page (the day you looked at it). StarryGrandma (talk) 03:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@JennilyW: ...like I did in this edit. It would be better if you found an independent reliable source instead of the company's Twitter post. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC) Okay.

The only thing I could find was there Twitter post, but thanks for helping me out! JennilyW (talk) 03:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I was going to reply to that last comment by saying that then it probably doesn't belong in the article, JennilyW. But having looked at it, and seen that the only references in that section are both Tweets (generally not considered reliable) from the company (not independent) and both dated before the stated release dates (crystal ball), and having searched for reliable independent sources about Loomian Legacy and failed to find any, I have removed the section. If you can find a reliable independent source, it can, of course be restored. But while dates are the kind of thing that we can often use non-independent sources for, a date at which they were going to release it is not a reliable source either for the fact of its release or for its release date. --ColinFine (talk) 15:46, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

My edit did not appear.

My question is that I have edited the Tiger Trail Section of San Diego Zoo Safari Park Article as The cub,Moka currently resides in Lions,Tigers and Bears sanctuary but it is not appearing,As the headline says. Ishaan bommakanti 6548 (talk) 05:15, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Your content has been removed, at least twice. It's unsourced and poorly written trivia, and, at least the one time I removed it, it was in the middle of a reference. Meters (talk) 05:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ishaan bommakanti 6548: You can see that your edits have been reverted by going to the San Diego Zoo Safari Park article and clicking the "View history" tab. GoingBatty (talk) 05:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

If you were asking about this last edit, it did not appear because it was embedded in the reference. Your text would have shown up at the bottom of the article in the list of references (unless it completely broke the ref, I didn't check). Meters (talk) 05:31, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Furthermore, your edit contained the word "currently". This is not generally allowed, per WP:CURRENTLY.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:26, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Ishaan bommakanti 6548. I see you trying very hard to improve Wikipedia by editing articles about things that you know about, and adding information that is missing. I remember doing the same thing when I was new fifteen years ago. The trouble is that Wikipedia is not interested in what you know - just as it was (and is) not interested in what I know. Wikipedia is only interested in information which a reader next week or next month or next year has a way of verifying, so information which has been published in a reliable source. Unfortunately, we already have a huge amount of unsourced information in thousands of articles, mostly from long ago when editors were less careful about this: in my view, all that unsourced information has negative value for Wikipedia, because a reader has no way of checking whether or not it is correct. So now when somebody adds information without citing a published source, it doesn't improve Wikipedia, but further reduces its value. Adding sourced information usually adds to the value of Wikipedia, and so does adding a source to unsourced information which is already in an article. --ColinFine (talk) 16:00, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

RS-fail

I made an addition to a page. It was almost immediately deleted with the tag "RS-fail". What does that mean ? 78.144.85.108 (talk) 15:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello IP, RS stands for Reliable source. In this case, it looks like your edit was reverted because you didn't provide a source to back it up. See WP:CITE and WP:RS for more information. Thanks, Pahunkat (talk) 15:51, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. I probably won't continue this matter; for the same reason I don't get into discussions on Twitter. 78.144.85.108 (talk) 16:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Help. My article was deleted.

My article was speedy deleted. I want to revise it so it meets the Wikipedia Guidelines but I need access to it. What can I do? Dcfmagic (talk) 13:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

That's not possible. I've seen it: it looks as if it's written for a company brochure. This website isn't a congeries of corporate advertising; it's an encyclopedia. If you believe that your subject is notable, then start from scratch, using not what the company says about itself and its birds, but instead what independent, reliable, published sources say. -- Hoary (talk) 13:27, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@hoary I understand and apologize. I did not intend to cause an issue. Is there any way I can have a copy of the article, for my own purposes. I am requesting a copy of my work, not to be published. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcfmagic (talk • contribs) 13:56, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Dcfmagic The content can still be seen here Draft:Miliquin Macaws, and yes it is totally inappropriate for an encyclopaedia article. Theroadislong (talk) 15:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I am afraid that I had to delete about 11.6 KB of text for being a copyright violation of https://tcfeathers.com, which appears to be a copyrighted website. Please never copy texts from the internet onto Wikipedia. From my experience, 99% of the texts not written for Wikipedia are also unsiutable for Wikipedia, even if we could get the legal stuff sorted. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Can image in userbox be copyright issues?

Hi, I put some userbox with images on my page, I just wanna know could I get in trouble for putting images in the boxes.? Max20characters (talk) 16:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

As your user page stands, the flag of the USA and the colour blue aren't going to cause any copyright problems. Have a look at File:English language.svg it may be a better match for your text in the userbox. - X201 (talk) 16:46, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Max20characters, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. Any image that is already in Wikimedia Commons (as those two are) may be used by anybody, anywhere, for any purpose, as long as they give attribution. Adding them to a page in Wikipedia automatically gives that attribution, because it is at the image's page in Commons. An image that has been uploaded to Wikipedia rather than Commons may or may not be available: you would need to look at the image's description page to see whether it was free or non-free. If it is free (public domain, or licensed with a free licence such as CC-BY-SA), then you can use it anywhere. If it is non-free, then you may use it only if such use meets all ten criteria in NFCC - which include that it may be used only in articles, so non-free images may not be used on a user page. --ColinFine (talk) 16:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

ColinFine, ok thank you for the info, X201 thanks for the info and image, i will use it for my userbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Max20characters (talk • contribs) 17:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Mobile Edit Functionality

I'm using an android phone on firefox. I can't seem to edit more than a single section of an article (i.e. content below headers like See also, External links, Further reading, etc.) and was wondering if there's a way to do this that I've overlooked. It's quite frustrating because I can't move a section that's in the wrong place or make minor edits to multiple sections at the same time. I also noticed there doesn't appear to be a "minor edit" checkbox while using mobile. Why is this? Especially when most mobile edits are probably going to be minor. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@TipsyElephant: The mobile version (as well as the app) don't have all the features of desktop. Editing the whole page doesn't seem to be supported on mobile, as well as edit checkboxes (minor edits, watchlist, etc.) If you do need them, I personally recommend using the desktop site, and changing your skin to either Timeless or monobook (with responsive mode turned on). it still can be a bit difficult due to the narrow screen size, but this solution allows you to use all desktop features on a mobile device. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

just started

Just started,

Dear all, I just started mostly because I have seen some missing citations for which I know what to link. Now I have seen some sections which were a bit messy according to my clinical knowledge. When do you think it is the right time to start rearranging structures of pages (e.g. creating a new structure, linking others which are totally independent? Etc)

any advice is appreciated. Giorgio Didiogiorgio (talk) 16:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Didiogiorgio and welcome to the Teahouse. Those with expertise in medicines and related technical areas are always very welcome here. You need to take a read of WP:MEDRS, which covers some of the specially high standards Wikipedia sets for medicine-related articles. You won't run into trouble if you use reliable WP:SECONDARY sources. You might want to comment on the Talk Page of any article where you propose to make a major restructuring, in the hope of attracting other editors from the various Projects that are interested in those articles — and of course you could join those Projects yourself. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

From looking at your past edits, you appear to be off to a good start. One small thing - refs are placed after punctuation. If you are starting to make major changes to an article, be explicit in your Edit summaries, and it may be wise to create a new section at the Talk page of the article, explaining your intent. Keep in mind that what you know is true is useful, but verification with citations is essential. General rule is BRD: be BOLD in your edits, but if REVERTED, take to Talk for a DISCUSSION. David notMD (talk) 18:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding content

 Courtesy link: Lisa Daniely

Just made first two edits, adding to an actor’s filmography. Appear in red & not the expected blue despite trying to get the wording correct. They are existing headings. Clearly I have not got it quite right. Guidance please. Oldfilmguy (talk) 19:28, 4 February 2021 (UTC) Oldfilmguy (talk) 19:28, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Oldfilmguy: You need to enter the article titles as is. For example, it should just be Scotland Yard (film series) and Sherlock Holmes (1984 TV series). You can use a pipe trick (adding a | after the closing parenthesis before the closing square brackets) to remove the disambiguator. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:37, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Engine

Hi, what "wiki engine" does Wikipedia use? For example, wikipedia.org, wiktionary.org, and wikimedia.org seem to use the exact same website design but another wiki website fandom.com looks completely different. I would really like to know. Is it called "MediaWiki"?

Thanks 47.150.227.254 (talk) 20:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@47.150.227.254: Yes, Wikipedia as well as (AFAIK) fandom use The MediaWIki engine. The funny thing is that the MediaWiki engine can produce very diverse html output. Depending on the installed skins, the output of the engine may vary significantly. For example, Wikipedia and it's affliates use vector (the default), [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?useskin=cologneblue Cologne Blue, monobook, Timeless, modern and minerva (Default for Mobile devices) depending on the user preferences. The joke about this is that even those skins aren't fixed: many things can still be changed by editing MediaWiki:Common.css (if you have the edit previliges). Fandom.com seems to be using a skin called "Oasis", based on their Special:Version page (I have chosen a random Wiki in this case). Victor Schmidt (talk) 20:12, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much! :-) @Victor Schmidt:

47.150.227.254 (talk) 20:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Update Content - Massachusetts House of Representatives' 17th Middlesex district

We are reaching out from the Office of State Representative Vanna Howard of Massachusetts 17th Middlesex District. Vanna Howard is the newly-elected State Representative and now serves the 17th Middlesex District. Could your team please update the content on your page:

Massachusetts House of Representatives' 17th Middlesex district https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_House_of_Representatives%27_17th_Middlesex_district

Thank you! 73.142.12.88 (talk) 13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Mai

Hello, IP. Edit requests should go on the talk page, backed up by a reliable source. Thanks, Giraffer ^{(talk·contribs)} 14:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Article gets only a few views per day, and the Talk page, less, so that suggestion will not work. I will see if I can finds a newspaper citation for Howard being the State Representative, and add that information. David notMD (talk) 15:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

This should do: https://www.thetimesherald.com/elections/results/race/2020-11-03-state_house-MA-23048/. David notMD (talk) 15:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

It occurred to me that the appointment of Vanna to that level of position in a US state should really be announced somewhere official - like the state's website. And after a bit of digging, I found it: https://malegislature.gov/Legislators/Members/House. So I wonder: Is a state's website a sufficiently reliable source for Wikipedia? (It seems to me that it should be higher up the scale than even the most reputable newspaper.) And if not, why bother including the website on the US State infobox? --Verbarson (talk) 17:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

IMO, either or both. Do you want to do it? And while at it, use that .gov citation to update all of the other Districts that have new representatives? David notMD (talk) 18:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Consider it done [[6]] (But only for Vanna Howard) --Verbarson (talk) 20:15, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

and [[7]] to put the overview right. --Verbarson (talk) 20:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Seek help with draft article on Joseph Conforte

Hello! I need a reviewer or two to help with my draft article about the infamous Joseph Conforte. My draft has been rejected, saying I need to avoid Peacock Words and I need more citations, but Paul Carpenter, the editor, did not provide any detail of what word or fact needs my attention. Can anyone help me? Owilli2019 (talk) 18:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Joseph Conforte ‎ Possibly (talk) 19:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Owilli2019 Welcome to The Teahouse. Sentences like "Thus even in death, Joe Conforte seems to mock the world by not having proof he is gone." certainly have no place in an encyclopedia, we just need the dry referenced facts, much of your content has no sourcing. Wikipedia summarises what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic. Theroadislong (talk) 18:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Note a significant article on Joe Conforte already exists, but was converted into a redirect due to sourcing issues. Possibly (talk) 19:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Owilli2019: This is a very large article, which may make things difficult for a first article,as it requires so many fixes. The biggest problem is that lacks independent sources for the many claims it makes. I removed the references to an unpublished interview, as this is not the kind of sources we use. If you want to get this article published, I suggest cutting it down to three paragraphs. Then, after reading WP:RS andWP:SIGCOV, find five independently published articles that talk about what you have said in the Wikipedia article. Material that you have collected on your own through research, as you mentioned on my talk page, is not a WP:RS. Thanks. Possibly (talk) 19:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Owilli2019: - I think he deserves an article, but the sourcing is poor, and it's not written in the correct style, as others have pointed out above. I identified several sources and put them on the talk page. I recommend you read the sources, as well as the Rolling Stone source you already use, write the article based on what is in them (in your own, non-florid words), and use that as the basis for your draft. Save what you have now as a text file for future use. Ping me when you're done and if it looks good, I'll move it over the redirect. Then you can gradually add more of the info from your saved file as you can source it. The link for the resource is WP:SIGCOV. Good luck! TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Fantastic! I'm learning... Owilli2019 (talk) 20:56, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

What merits a new section?

Hello. A few months ago, I added a new section to a Wikipedia article about a politician and a "scandal" he took part in. I won't go into too much detail, but he hit someone with his truck on purpose and went to court for it. It was removed for being previously being mentioned (albeit in passing), but I went into detail about the subject and the backlash the politician received. Are there any rules on when to add a new section? Deathconsciousness (talk) 20:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

WP:UNDUE would definitely help! WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 20:52, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

You added a lot of detail about a 2008 incident already briefly covered in the article, that ended in a reckless driving misdemeanor and a settled civil suit. I agree WP:UNDUE applies. David notMD (talk) 21:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

How to add a name on the Bossa Nova Singers wiki page

I want to add Bianca Rossini under the "B" category on the Bossa Nova Singers wiki page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Bossa_nova_singers&oldid=prev&diff=1004876725

I do not understand the instructions given, they are not clear.

Best, Patrick Lockwood Patrick Lockwood (talk) 22:17, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Patrick Lockwood, and welcome to the Teahouse. You do not add entries to a Category: you add the category to articles. So what you would need is to add the category to the Wikipedia article Bianca Rossini, which doesn't currently exist (that's why the link is red). If she meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then an article could be written about her. You are welcome to create it, but be aware that creating a new article is a very difficult task for an inexperienced editor. Alternatively, you could try and interest somebody else in doing so: either at Requested articles (though the takeup is very low there) or at a suitable WikiProject such as WikiProject Dance or WikiProject Women in Red. Once the article is written and accepted into the encyclopaedia, then it can be added to the category. --ColinFine (talk) 23:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

My submission at Articles for creation: Jakops (January 30)

Hello this is Joanna,

I uploaded "Jakops" on January 30, 2021.

We need help to publish this article, the person Jakops are a Famous Producer in Korea, Japan. We don't surely use to this tool, Wikipedia, but Me and my client will update references soon.

and I want to ask what is the exact mean about declined Submission?

"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."

and how to solve this problem? What specific materials must be included in order for this article to meet the criteria? Are there any references to match this? or just examples? I saw many of references in Wikipedia, but still don't know how to solve this problem. If there any way to help us to meet then criteria, it might be really helpful using this tool to publish our article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joannaseok (talk • contribs) 02:25, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

By references, we mean reliable sources like newspapers, news sites, things like that. These sources must be reliable, and blogs/self-promoted links do not count as reliable. If you cannot find any good reliable sources, the subject might not qualify for a Wikipedia article. More specifically, "articles" #5, #6, #7 are not "references", in that they do not cite an actual source. "Articles" #3 and #4 seem to be of the same thing. You need to cite good sources on this subject, and be sure to insert citations on core portions of the article (name, discography). Aside from that, there are also some manual of style issues, and grammatical errors. By "we" and "client", do you mean you are doing this in partnership with someone also? Wikipedia strongly discourages people with a conflict of interest from making articles that they have a bias towards/against. You must inform others of any potential COI's you have. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 04:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

More specifically, Joannaseok, if you have a paid relationship, you need to publicly declare that on your user page (that is, which company you work for and for which client's behalf). You may use {{paid}} to do so. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Joannaseok: Based on what you wrote above, I'm afraid you might be unaware that Wikipedia is not here as a tool for anyone to promote anything. Please see WP:NOTPROMO. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Net Worth (Forbes & Bloomberg)

I was new to Wikipedia and I had a question to ask you guys. I usually use Bloomberg Billionaire Index to edit on Wikipedia pages. I usually don't use Forbes to edit. But, some of my edit were removed by the same user and the user is an experience user. I do not violate any rules in Wikipedia & I just edit those billionaire's net worth with the reference & evidence on my edit (date, time, link, access date & much more) But they are replacing Bloomberg Billionaire Index with Forbes. Can anyone tell me why?? LohShiSan2004 (talk) 07:47, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

John F Mazzaferro article has Problems

So I don't even know what to do with this article: John F Mazzaferro. The person that made the article has been told on his talk page about COI, specifically in relation to this author. It's basically a list of links, and it's related to a living person. I genuinely have no clue what template I'd even mark it with. I kinda don't think he's notable enough but I don't really have any experience with checking that. Please help, this one is too much for me. Xurizuri (talk) 01:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Xurizuri, I've gone ahead and moved it to draftspace, as it doesn't really meet any article standards. It seems the original editor is inactive, so if anyone feels like working on it, now's the time. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:01, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Tenryuu, thank you! Is there anything else that needs to be done with the article? (other than writing it into a functional article) --Xurizuri (talk) 02:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Xurizuri, only that it should be worked on every once in a while; inactive drafts are procedurally deleted six months after their last edit. When it's ready slap a {{subst:submit}} on it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Or tag it with Proposed deletion. Mazzaferro wrote several (5? 7?) technical books back in the early 1990s. A quickie search found nothing about him, just lists of the books. I cannot see how this can be rescued. David notMD (talk) 08:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

I Understand you deleted my edit on Yu-GI-Oh! GX but...Why? i can explain.

A wall of text that isn't a question. Giraffer (talk·contribs) 08:47, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Well...I Am The YouTuber Lightning Alexis. i got famous thanks to making AMVs by someone more famous inspiring me. however year ago i did actually find and spoke to Shin Yoshida at a japanese social media. it was very hard to find him. back at that day before i left the japanese media after my question got answered privately i copied and pasted what Shin told me into a personal document of mine because i want to reveal an official yugioh canon relationship: Alexis Rhodes/Asuka Tenjoin and Jesse Andersen/Johan Andersen. a lot of people argue with my fans about if there's any proof of Alexis loving Jesse instead of Jaden. yesterday i exposed and revealed to everyone on YouTube what one of the writers Shin Yoshida explained to me in japanese about if Alexis and Jesse are in a relationship or not. year ago at a japanese social media i asked Yu-Gi-Oh! GX's writer in private about if there's a relationship between Alexis and Jesse. Shin Yoshida confirmed in japanese to me that Alexis and Jesse ended up together offscreen in Episode 179 Farewell Judai! a Tearful Graduation Ceremony and after the confirmation and explanations, Yoshida requested me to leave immediately duo to this conversation between us only. at late February 2020 i exposed to the internet and YouTube, Alexis and Jesse's canon relationship without proofs of them liking each other which caused me to argue with most people and fans and get bullied by them for months until i faked apologizing to the fans about lying to them without proofs because i know i did actually talk to the writer in private at japanese social media that got shutdown since the conversation ended and is encrypted in private sections the writer keeps for himself. i faked my apologies out of fear against the fans and people that bullied me and mistreated me and as a result of the bullying i quit YouTube for a week until i returned by moving forward from what happened yet i proved myself right to the fans and people by revealing yesterday the proof of Alexis and Jesse in a relationship canonically. after i exposed and revealed Shin Yoshida's answer and explanations to me in japanese, fans and people became outraged and anxious after Alexis and Jesse are officially canon like Sakura and Sasuke from the Naruto Anime. some fans killed themselves duo to heartbreak and some fans riot against my fans who are hyped and happy by Alexis and Jesse officially canon. because of Shin Yoshida's confirmation about a relationship that he and Kazuki developed but couldn't show the dance and how Alexis and Jesse ended up together, their reason for not showing the affections and how Alexis and Jesse like each other was because they didn't want to upset their fans including while still developing Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's at the year 2008. i proved the fans that bullied me wrong as i was mistreated for a year duo to showing no proof until i finally showed what Shin told me at the japanese social media. while Alexis and Jesse are canon next to Yuma and Kotori, fans are questioning about Akiza and Yusei if the two kissed offscreen or not. Kazuki Takashi stated years ago that Yusei knew Akiza loves him and he didn't return her feelings but gets together with her later in their lives. duo to Yoshida's confirmation also from year ago my Alexis and Jesse AMVs are also officially canon and relevant. heartbroken and angry fans that prefer Jaden with Alexis however blame Shin Yoshida and Kazuki Takahashi for making Alexis and Jesse a couple offscreen in a cut script and writing of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Episode 179. the fans that are hyped however are happy and thank me for exposing the truth and proof of their favorite characters ending up together and that Kazuki and Yoshida are blessing writers and directors for keeping a secret for many years. additional Jaden and Alexis fans are also suffering deep depression and traumas since Shin Yoshida's confirmation got revealed. Alexis and Jesse ended up together in Episode 179 offscreen despite that Jaden and Alexis are more popular and my fans and i celebrate today Yoshida's Explanations and Answer. it's all true. i swear. i did suffer a lot back then. it made me stronger because i don't give up on revealing the truth. this is what Shin Yoshida told me year ago when i spoke to him privately in his japanese social media after i requested to meet him: アスカはジュダイを愛しているが、他の誰かを愛しているので彼に告白するのをやめた。十分なスポットライトが得られなかった2人のキャラクターの間のより成熟した発展を探求したいと思いました。卒業パーティーでアスカとヨハンが踊る脚本を作りましたが、当時5Dの開発を始めていたため、画面に放映できませんでした。あすかと十代の関係を望んでいる観客を怒らせたくなかったので、脚本をあきらめました。あすかと十代を一緒に作りたかったのですが、ユーベルとヨハンのせいでできませんでした。 Johanは、彼がどれほど特別で成熟しているかという理由でJudaiの分身であり、AsukaとJohanの開発の間に削除されたスクリプトがありました。さなえいは、アンデルセンが成熟していることから、十代よりもヨハンを好むことを認めた。あすかは未来へと進み、一緒に旅に出たヨハンと一緒に先生になります。これは私たちの間だけであり、あなたは私たちの会話を聴衆に公開することはできません。はいあなたの質問に答えるために。 Asuka x Johanは、私たちが見せることができなかった開発を彼らに与えたので、カノンです。私は今あなたの去りを要求するかもしれません。ご質問ありがとうございます。

that's the proof of Alexis and Jesse canonically in relationship. he confirmed it himself. it wasn't easy to find him and it's very hard to get his or Kazuki's attentions. i didn't give up however because i believed in myself to find the writer. the edit was based on what i experienced back then year ago. everything i suffered until now...i suffered the most in life. i wish my edit will stay....i study computing at college and it's tough but i'm really good at it somehow. i hope i'll get more appreciation. i doubted myself too much in life. i'm tired of people bullying me for exposing a canon yugioh pairing. Alexis fantrust (talk) 07:37, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

CliffsNotes, please? Nobody is going to read a mighty wall-o-text, much less some which includes text that most of us can't read and can't trust Google Translate to not screw up (as it tends to falter on Japanese). —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 08:37, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Alexis fantrust Before I went half-blind trying to finish reading all that, I got a sense that you have unpublished information that led to your edit at Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, which was reverted by another editor (not by anyone here at Teahouse). The next proper step is to start a discussion on the Talk page of the article. I strongly recommend keeping it short. David notMD (talk) 08:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Duly started. Kind of. -- Hoary (talk) 09:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Features of "authority control" and how to improve its correct reflection

Can you explain or just correct it?

Why does the page of Alexei Eryomin not reflect all 9 parameters of "authority control" reflected here [8]?

Even on ptWiki and esWiki - 5 parameters are reflected [9], and on enWiki only 2? Noophelia 2.0 (talk) 09:21, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Noophelia 2.0, welcome to the Teahouse. Wikidata stores identifiers at A L Eryomin (Q87055226). Each Wikipedia language codes which of them to show, if the language even has a feature to show them. The English Wikipedia has Template:Authority control. You can post suggestions to Template talk:Authority control. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:42, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Issue with Grevys zebra article

It says it’s subgenus is Dolichohippus but the zebra article says all zebras are in the sub genus Hippotigris does anyone know if the Grevys zebra or the zebra article the true sub genus for the Grevys zebra — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.10.148 (talk) 09:34, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Both have been used. See Grévy's zebra#Taxonomy and naming and Zebra#Taxonomy and evolution. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:49, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Article Assistance - SysCAD

Hi, I am looking for some assistance with Draft:SysCAD. If anyone would be available to review it would be greatly appreciated. DanMunchie (talk) 10:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

(i) When you say "principals", you mean what are conventionally spelt "principles". (ii) The draft is only four sentences long. If this is all that can be said about the subject matter, is the subject matter notable? -- Hoary (talk) 13:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Hoary for the typo fix. Similar packages Aspen HYSYS and PRO/II have short entries as well - it is industry-specific software so the detail is not critical for the public entry. There was an older edit with more detail [[10]] but I was previously told to cut this back as it read like a product sheet. I believe notability has been established with references, but I would like some additional feedback if this is not the case please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanMunchie (talk • contribs) 13:04, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding images

how do i add images on wikipedia pages? Seansrobloxvideosandmore (talk) 13:50, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Answered on help desk. SK2242 (talk) 14:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Article

Can i write an article, and how?

 David Bobby George quotes (talk) 14:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@David Bobby George quotes: If the article you want to create is about yourself, or someone you are related or have a connection to, you are strongly advised not to because you have a conflict of interest. Otherwise, you can create a draft page using the Articles for Creation process, and when you think it is ready, submit using the {{subst:submit}} code. At some point, a reviewer will determine if the draft is ready to become an article in mainspace. However, if it is declined, you should solve any issues raised by the reviewer before submitting again. When writing your draft, you should first determine whether the subject is notable enough for an article. If so, you can go ahead and write your draft. Make sure to add a reliable source for every sentence, write in a neutral tone, and follow the Manual of Style. SK2242 (talk) 14:25, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Give feedback on Ashish Chanchalani

I saw the draft Draft:Ashish chanchalani. There were some mistakes in this draft that I fixed. Now I think the draft Ashish chanchalani is worth publishing. If you give your opinion and find some mistake, correct it, publish. Marwadi Indian (talk) 03:00, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

It awaits a review. At the top, one reads: "Review waiting, please be patient. / This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order." This means what it says. Please be patient. -- Hoary (talk) 04:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Why is the title not "Ashish Chanchlani"? David notMD (talk) 08:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@David notMD, Actually the title Ashish Chanchlani is protected by administrators. Marwadi Indian (talk) 10:35, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

So, this is an attempt to again create an article about the person Ashish Chanchlani by giving it the working title "Ashish Chanchalani" because the original was deleted and salted? David notMD (talk) 10:42, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

There is no "mistake" that can be "fixed". The community has recognised the fact that this person does not meet the notability requirements. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashish Chanchlani from July 2020, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashish A. Chanchlani from August 2020, and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Ashish Chanchlani from October 2020. Non-notable people can become notable, but the draft clearly shows that nothing has changed since October 2020 (and apparently not since 2017 when articles about this person were first being deleted, re-created, and deleted again.) Asking volunteer reviewers to donate their own time to review this article is not productive or helpful to Wikipedia, and creating it under yet another article is a form of gaming the system. --bonadea contributions talk 14:38, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

I also received similar toxicity from a Wikipedia editor

In 2018, I'd watched the premier of a film about four very well-known British Dames, all of whom are elderly, and highly-respected. They've appeared in many loved films, plays, and television series. I wrote a short article about the film for Wikipedia, with a selection of good links to their individual pages, and other things that were of interest. It was well thought out, neutral, and a more than a good start. By no stretch was it a promotion, or mentioned media companies. It wasn't adoring, but simply factual. The criticism I received from a Wikipedia editor was toxic. And this person removed the article, despite there being thosands of similar short articles on Wikipedia. Mine was certainly longer than some of the "stubs" I sometimes read. So, where I used to always contribute to the annual fund raiser, I don't now. 'R', London, 5 Feb 2021. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.225.136 (talk) 02:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello R, it can be disappointing to be at the receiving end of criticism that feels unwarranted and/or harsh. Unfortunately it is hard to comment on what happened here since you did not mention the title of the article. Being curious, I tried to find which film it might have been you were writing about – Nothing Like a Dame from 2018 seems like a likely candidate, but there is an article about that film at Nothing Like a Dame (film) and I can't see any trace of that having been deleted. If you refer to the comments posted to User talk:86.135.13.28 about the earlier draft Draft:Nothing Like a Dame (2018 film), there is no criticism there, only a standard information template about what the draft would need in order to be published. The draft was deleted six months later, and only because it had been untouched for six months, which is also explained in the notice.

I might be completely wrong and you might be referring to something else, but unless you give us a little more information, there is not much we can do to help. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 15:42, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Help on an image

I need help on my image on Draft:Savanna Karmue. It's centered a bit weirdly on my draft page so I wanted to know if there was any way to fix it. If there is, can you please help? Thanks so much! Tracksthegeneral (talk) 15:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

I fixed the syntax and made a few other changes in the infobox. MB 15:59, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Tracksthegeneral (talk) 16:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Please approve this old established institute

I have added the old recognised school of district Kupwara, with full Reference. IamMehrose (talk) 14:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, IamMehrose. You have submitted Draft:Iqra Educational Institute Kupwara for review. That will happen when a reviewer decides to pick it of the list and review it. My guess is that this will happen pretty quickly, and it will be declined, because it looks to me as if few if any of the sources are all three of reliably published, independent of the school, and containing significant coverage of the school. I may be wrong, but I advise you to find some places where somebody unconnected with the school has chosen to write at some length (at least three or four paragraphs) about the school, and been published in a reliable source. I hope you'll forgive me if I smile at "old established" for a school that was founded twenty years ago. I attended a school that was founded in 1561 and a college that dates from 1441. --ColinFine (talk) 16:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

What is the procedure around disputed edits, or, how do I get consensus?

Hi

A week and a half ago I came across this edit [11] while browsing recent changes (side question: how do people do nice wiki-links to a specific edit?) I boldly reverted the change since I felt after looking at the description of the movie that it was very much related to Chabad, and I suspected that the IP-editor's reason for removing it might have been more because it was critical of the religion than because it was unrelated to it. However, the established user Sir Joseph disagreed with me, and reverted my reversion: [12]. I then thought the right thing to do was to take the discussion to Sir Joseph's talk page (right?), and after some discussion we agreed that singling out just the one critical movie was inconsistent. Either all cultural works not specifically about the religion should be removed, or the movie in question should be allowed to stay. See discussion here. Lastly, Sir Joseph told me: "You might want to post on the article talk page and see about consensus", so I did just that: [13].

Now a week and a half has passed without comment, so I thought I should ask you guys how this process is supposed to work. Do I just go ahead with my preferred option of re-inserting the originally removed movie if nobody answers after a while? In that case, how long is a while? Do I directly ask some prolific editors of the article for comment on their talk pages, or what?

Thanks in advance for any help! Knuthove (talk) 20:30, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Knuthove: You can use Template:diff with the specific revision numbers to make a very nice link. Finding consensus on smaller articles can be a bit tricky, because they are poorly trafficked. However, if someone reverts you, they are an ideal person to talk it out with. If only SirJoseph is active on that article, then maybe its better to just talk it out with him. If you can't come to an agreement, you can always ask for a third opinion formally. Formal dispute resolotuion also exists. Whenever talking about specific editors on a talk page, it is best to ping them using Template:ping, as otherwise they probably won't see your message. AdmiralEek (talk) 21:05, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

As an add-on, if you just want to show the changes between a revision and the one right before it, use {{dif}}, where the first parameter takes the ID number of the resulting revision. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@AdmiralEek:@Tenryuu: I'll try talking to Sir Joseph again and see if we can come to an agreement. Thanks a lot for your comments, and thanks for the information on diff-links and pings! I wasn't aware that templates were used for so much here, even though I now realize I have been using some of them — like Template:citation needed — for a long time. Thanks again! Knuthove (talk) 16:50, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Request to update biography

Hello! Gary of Bitner Group here, working to update the James F. Allen (businessman) article on his behalf by sharing requests on the article's Talk page. I've disclosed my conflict of interest on my profile and on the article's Talk page. I've proposed some specific changes to bring the page up to date, if editors have a moment to review and update on my behalf. Thank you! GaryBitner (talk) 15:08, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, GaryBitner. Thank you for being open about your conflict of interest; however you have not completely complied with the requirements for WP:paid editors, in that you haven't explicitly identified yourself as a paid editor, nor "suppl[ied] a clearly visible list of their paid contributions on their main user page".

You made a request on 22 December, which you tagged as an Edit request, but nobody has yet attended to it. Please be patient. I see you have made another request today, but not tagged it with {{edit request}}, so you're relying on whoever looks at the first also noticing the second. --ColinFine (talk) 16:52, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Please advice on bringing the Article on main wikipedia after getting shifted to draft

A page was designed and developed and publish, and went through a process of discussion for deletion. However, it was allowed to remain. But after few days, the page was again put up for deletion and after the discussions the page was moved to Draft.

I need help in what would be the best way to have the page again in the main stream.

Thanks all Archiedesai (talk) 13:22, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:No Means No (film)

The deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Means No (film) finished with a decision to draftify. A point made there is from WP:NFF: "films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines." Archiedesai participated in the deletion discussion, so is aware of how the draftify decision was reached. David notMD (talk) 16:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

How to deal with Insulting other’s ethnic groups

Hi Wikipedia has a specific warning category about personal attacks but what about the National attacks? Like this one Special:Diff/1004888570. As we see this user removed referenced content without providing references but rather attacked an ethnic group. As we can see from his talk page This user by the way has a history of disruptive editing and unsourced edits and attacking other people as well These are recent edits: Special:Diff/1004690238. And: Special:Diff/1003382225 and Special:Diff/1002976710 and Special:Diff/993480530 and Special:Diff/1002240492

I’m looking at his edits’ history and I can literally show you hundreds of these kinds of edits Edit 2: I’m not arguing but this user is claiming Syrians are stealing and showed you what his recent edits look like

 Whatsupkarren (talk) 16:55, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

I've converted the URLs to Wikilinks, so they work properly on the desktop version as well. --ColinFine (talk) 17:11, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

I see several people - Savipolo, Dony rickles, Chris O' Hare, and most recently, you, Whatsupkarren, arguing in your edit messages on Callinicus of Heliopolis, but no discussion on the article's talk page. That is the first step in any content dispute, not insulting each other or appealing to the Teahouse. --ColinFine (talk) 17:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

How to edit semi-protected pages?

So now, I finally autoconfirmed. But, how to editing semi-protected pages? Lkas123 (talk) 17:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@Lkas123: Same as editing any other page. Click the "edit" button at the top of the page and make sure to use citations for any changes you make. RudolfRed (talk) 17:51, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Trying to add a non-visible note breaks the page

Hi. I'm trying to add Do not change to "Legacy" per Talk:Evermore (Taylor Swift album)#Impact Vs. Legacy to Evermore (Taylor Swift album) without it showing up on the article, but it breaks the page. Can you please tell me why? Thanks. TheCartoonEditor. talk to me? see what i've done 17:55, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, TheCartoonEditor. Can you provide link to the revision where it broke please? I can't seem to find it. If you're interested there's a page about hidden comments here. Regards, Zindor (talk) 18:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

PrimeHunter appears to have added the note to the article for you. Zindor (talk) 18:12, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi TheCartoonEditor, welcome to the Teahouse. You haven't saved anything so I cannot say what went wrong. The right code is <!-- ... --> I have added a more informative comment.[14] If a comment has no explanation then it can easily be ignored. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:14, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks all. I was using the wrong format. TheCartoonEditor. talk to me? see what i've done 18:32, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Article to improve - Power stations in France

The article LIST OF POWER STATIONS IN FRANCE is outdated.

The table of operating plants includes Fessenheim, which was retired in 2020 (source: https://cnpp.iaea.org/countryprofiles/France/France.htm)

I am completely unable to edit tables and therefore I invite another user to perform this update.

Thanks Claire 2A01:CB04:102:E000:E807:2CCD:B0C7:E6D8 (talk) 17:46, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Table updated. Thank you for the heads-up but in the future, you may get a better response by posting on the article's talk page: Talk:List of power stations in France. I hope that helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:35, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

i accidentally edited a wikipedia page

i accidentally edited a wikipedia page without a account so my ip exposed is it possible deleted history sorry for my english Boşver123 (talk) 19:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@Boşver123: You can make a request at WP:OVERSIGHT to hide the IP address. RudolfRed (talk) 19:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Biography

how can i get my biography placed on wikipidia The MarSen (talk) 19:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@The MarSen, hello and welcome, Biographical articles you observe on Wikipedia were created by volunteers who deemed the subject of their articles to be notable because they passed our notability test which is outlined in WP:GNG,(read it at your leisure time). Furthermore writing an article on yourself by yourself is called WP:AUTO & it is very much frowned upon & would most likely be deleted eventually. If you are notable, your biography would invariably be created. Please we do not accept money in exchange for creating biographical articles so if any editor approaches you privately & asks you for money in order for your article to be created they are fraudulent individuals attempting to scam you. If you are desperate about having an article on yourself you may choose to include your name to this list & if you are deemed notable your biography would be created. Celestina007 (talk) 19:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Good article

Hi. Can you help me fix the Buffalo Bills article so that it can be nominated for a good article? Thanks! Mewe-Mewe. UwU (talk) 18:16, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

You nominated Buffalo Bills for Good Article without having made any improving edits to the article, so it was failed. The reviewer provided a list of shortcomings. Go to it! The New England Patriots article and a few other team articles are GAs. The rest are B-class or C-class. David notMD (talk) 20:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mewe-Mewe. UwU: You should review the good article criteria. Also, you should probably do some editing in the first place to get a feel for how articles work, how sourcing works, how to make articles neutral and well written, and more. I edited for some many months before I nominated my first GA, but once I had the experience I was able to take a very poor article and turn it to a good article, and then to a featured article. You may also wish to ask a football editor, like Eagles247 for some advice. AdmiralEek (talk) 20:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Editing battery section of Toyota Camry (XV70), but my edits not appear

Please someone to edits (no anonymous user to edit that section) of battery of Camry (XV70), because my edits won't appear. The eight generation Camry Hybrid has two battery, which consists of nickel-metal hydride and lithium-ion (LE Hybrid; North America). Lkas123 (talk) 19:12, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Fixed (I hope) by adding a break. David notMD (talk) 20:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Where can i find articles to edit?

I am looking for somewhere where i can find articles to edit. Thanks. Thank you. I know how to edit already so i should be fine. Starman2377 (talk) 19:54, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Starman2377 (talk) 19:54, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Starman2377, welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia:Task_Center is a good place to start, be sure that you have made familiar yourself with editing, for example at Help:Editing. Enjoy editing, hope my answer was of help. CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:03, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Starman2377, you may also want to subscribe to User:SuggestBot/Requests, where you can set the bot up to deliver suggested articles to your talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:29, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Starman2377 Thank you for trying to improve the encyclopedia. One thing you'll want to learn to do is preview your edits before saving them. If you accidentally add errors, you can always undo your edit by self-reverting. For example, when you tried to add the M134 Minigun to the main article template in the rotary gun section with this edit [[15]], you broke the template. I see you tried to fix it by making additional edits before giving up and leaving the broken template. You'll want to be a bit more careful in the future. If you can go back and fix it, it will help you learn editing better. You need the curly double brackets for the template ( {{ }} ), with the items separated by the pipe ( | ) symbol, but not the square brackets ( [[ ]] ) for the items in the template. Happy editing. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:52, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Starman2377 you can also try joining Wikipedia Projects that are within your interests. This would be easier for you to find articles that you are knowledgeable about or are interesting. For instance, I see that you have edited animation articles, you can check Anime and Manga project and see their open tasks. Good luck, Darwin Naz (talk) 23:00, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

I have fixed my error and have also made my edit work. Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starman2377 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Requested article help

Hello, I have written an article which has been requested of Wikipedia.Specifically, about Ernest Jese Palmer, a botanist (and dead). It's still in my userspace, not quite done, and I have several questions before I finish. One, if I want to add sources which were not used in the article, do they have to meet Reference-grade critera? Under what heading should I put them? 'Further reading'? 'see also'? Two, where can I get a more experienced editor to review my work before it is published? I want to reduce chance of deletion. Three, How can I connect this article to the redlink requested article, and therefore remove the article from requested to fulfilled? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SaraEMWalker/Ernest_Jesse_Palmer Thanks in advance, SaraEMWalker (talk) 22:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC) SaraEMWalker (talk) 22:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

SaraEMWalker, if you want to add links to URLs that wouldn't be considered reliable but would aid a reader in understanding the topic, those should probably be external links. If you want to add references that would be considered reliable, making a further reading section is fine. Some pages have a bibliography section, but that's generally discouraged because it's not possible to tell what specific information a source is supporting.

Since you indicate that you are a paid editor, the answer to your second and third question is the same: place {{subst:Submit}} at the top of the page, and it'll be reviewed and moved to the title that's currently a red link if the reviewer deems it likely to be capable of surviving a deletion discussion. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Follow-up to Mark Lawrence Editor

Mark Lawrence editor how do I reference my submission? Vladamir2020 (talk) 22:34, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Vladamir2020, you're going to want to take a look at WP:EASYREFBEGIN. Is this being copypasted from somewhere? I see numbers in square brackets, but they're not linked to the References section at the bottom. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:24, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Assistance in improving an article- Shamir optical industry

Hello to all Teahouse members and hosts. I translted the article from Hebrew , and while at the Hebrew platform the article waspublished, Here I asked to improve it. I know there are some diffreances from one Wikipedia to another, but still the core elemants are the same: natural and un-parcial point of view while adding refs from rilabie sources as newpapers, news websites and such. Alltough it seems that it is not enough. I would be happy for your guidnces and remarks about how to make the article Draft:Shamir Optical Industry better. Thank you Shaykea (talk) 00:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Ishaan bommakanti 6548

 Ishaan bommakanti 6548 (talk) 13:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Ishaan bommakanti 6548. Do you have a question? -- Hoary (talk) 13:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes.My question is How do you become an Administrator? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.212.247.211 (talk) 07:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Admins are elected by the community. There are few formal requirements but in practice, only long-term editors with specific use cases for the tools, few or no recent incidents of poor or controversial behavior and a demonstrable understanding of Wikipedia policy and common practice will succeed. Being an administrator does not grant you any additional authority when it comes to editing articles, engaging in discussions or carrying out most editing tasks. With their additional technical permissions, admins are only allowed to take uncontroversial actions (such as blocking vandals) or implement the outcomes of discussions between multiple editors (when there is consensus). — Bilorv (talk) 01:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Replacing my logo in our Wikipedia

I'm trying to replace our logo on our Wikipedia page, but it's not clear to me how to do that. Our page is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Main_Street_Partnership. I have the image on my desktop but I'm not sure how to load into that template.

thanks.

Peter RMSPPeterOsborne (talk) 00:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, RMSPPeterOsborne. I see you have uploaded File:RMSP logo.jpg to Commons, claiming it is your own work. Two questions: 1) Are you the legal owner of the copyright? If not, then you do not have the power to license it. 2) Are you aware that the licence you have purported to release it under irrevocably gives anybody at all permission to reuse or alter it for any purpose, commercial or not, as long as they attribute it correctly?

Logos are normally not handled that way, but are uploaded to Wikipedia itself as non-free images: see LOGOS. Since you evidently have a conflict of interest, you should not be directly editing the Wikipedia article about your organisation (which is not "your Wikipedia page"). Place an edit request on the article's talk page, either with the name of the file in Commons if you really are able, and intended, to release under that licence; or else with a link to where it can be found on the internet, and in time an editor will get to it and replace the logo. --ColinFine (talk) 01:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

What I forgot to say, RMSPPeterOsborne, is that you should declare your conflict of interest in editing that article, and if you are in any way employed or otherwise paid by RMSP, you must make the formal declaration described in paid editing. --ColinFine (talk) 01:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Help and guidance requested

Hello,

I request for someone to please take a look at the tag on Fardad Fateri's page. I have worked on his page by submitting edit requests on his talk page. The requests have been answered improving his page since February 2019 and the page is now updated with additional citations for verification. I would request if someone would take an independent look or DMacks can suggest what more (if anything) is required to work on? Thank you. GoMetroGo (talk) 22:07, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@GoMetroGo: I've removed the tag, as my assessment is that it no longer applies. — Bilorv (talk) 01:39, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

The definition of fascism

Why does the fascism definition on this site say that it is only far right? That is an extremely biased opinion and is propaganda. There are many examples of fascism in today's world that does not include right wing ideologies. Truthteller1982 (talk) 01:35, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@Truthteller1982: Wikipedia is based on reliable sources—in this case the consensus of professional historians and the relevant body of peer-reviewed work. The correct place for this discussion would be at Talk:Fascism, where you'll see a bright-red sign "Fascism is a right-wing ideology" which you need to read all of carefully and in detail before raising the issue again. If you are to raise the issue then you need to present peer-reviewed sources from historical journals or material of equivalent quality and explain in detail which pages of the sources support precisely which text you want to be changed from what and to what. — Bilorv (talk) 01:42, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Life in Jesus Christ is good

The thing that I want to said is here, Lord is good all the time bcos he is the one that protect u and ur house, families, always we should praise him — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mazang biran Godwin (talk • contribs) 14:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mazang biran Godwin: Thank you for reminding us of that. Also, please make sure to sign at the end of your message using ~~~~. Jack Reynolds (talk to me!) (email me!!) 14:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mazang biran Godwin: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This is a place to ask questions about using Wikipedia. Do you have any such questions? 331dot (talk) 14:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mazang biran Godwin: Please note that this is a global encyclopedia, and people of all backgrounds and beliefs come here to study and contribute to it. Discussions here and on other talk pages (like your user talk page) should focus on issues and questions related to this work. It's not a place to preach your faith. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

National Guard Bureau entry and edits

Good morning. One of my coworkers recently attempted to upload a revised entry for Wikipedia's page on the National Guard Bureau. A moderator with the pseudonym "MaterielScientist" promptly rejected the edits stating they "weren't constructive." My coworker has requested clarification on the moderator's discussion page, but not received any response. They then attempted to re-submit the edits and was, again, denied but this time by a different moderator who deemed the second submission as potentially disruptive to Wikipedia's terms. We would like to resolve this impasse so that we can upload our well-researched revision of the National Guard Bureau page. Please offer any guidance you may have on a way forward. 55.190.156.41 (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you or your co workers work for the NGB or otherwise for the US federal government, you must review the paid editing policy and make the required formal declaration. There is discussion about this matter on the article talk page, Talk:National Guard Bureau. It appears the content was copied from other sources; I would suggest further discussion take place on the article talk page. If you work for the Bureau, you should not directly edit the article, but you may make a formal edit request on the talk page, detailing changes you feel are needed. The article should summarize what independent reliable sources state about the Bureau. 331dot (talk) 14:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

The addition of over 9 kB of material to National Guard Bureau by 47.223.210.254 and HistoryEditor2021 and reversion by Materialscientist and Thewolfchild were almost a month ago and there was a template notice and one response at User talk:47.223.210.254#January 2021. Now that y'all are notified, please discuss (at Talk:National Guard Bureau). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:42, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Creating a Wikipedia page for a company where I work

Creating a Wikipedia page for a company where I work

I have created an entry for Shopless (this is where I work). I have tried my best to remain neutral. The article has been rejected, due to lack of recourses and secondary references. I would like to add some more references to the article and add more details to document... I want to know if there is anything else that I keep in mind? Hoomanbahreini (talk) 04:11, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:Shopless. The reviewer who Declined the draft explained what is lacking. The company's own website can be used to support some basic factual content, but it does not count toward establishing notability. David notMD (talk) 04:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Hoomanbahreini, and thanks for declaring your paid relationship with the subject on your user page! The draft has been declined (rejected is a more definite evaluation), which means that if you address the problem areas, it is more likely to be accepted. There are only two references you've used: one for a company listing, and one to the company's "About Us" page; both merely acknowledge the presence of the company, but do not establish any notability the subject has for Wikipedia. Since it's a company, you may want to take a look at corporate notability criteria. Please look for reliable sources that mention the company significantly and is independent from it. If you can find three, most reviewers should be satisfied. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Notes

References which link to media sites behind paywalls

Is there any purpose to references which link to media sites which are behind a paywall?

Example is "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_the_Midwife#cite_note-53"

This links to The Telegraph, which is a subscription only news source Alex Hudghton (talk) 22:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Alex Hudghton: That is fine. Sources do not require free or even easy access. See WP:PAYWALL. If you want to check what the source says, and don't have access, you can ask at WP:RX RudolfRed (talk) 22:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Alex Hudghton: It's possible that the reference was not behind a paywall when it was added. I've updated the reference with an archived version from the Wayback Machine so you can read it. GoingBatty (talk) 02:28, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

So, Wayback Machine is OK? - I did think of that but wasn't sure - thanks for the replies Alex Hudghton (talk) 08:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Alex Hudghton: Sort of. The original source still needs to be cited and considered reliable. The |archive-url=, |archive-date=, and potentially |url-status= parameters are added to give the user a link to the archived page at the Wayback Machine in case the original source is not available for whatever reason. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:02, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

How to Edit ? ? ?

How to Edit ? ? ?

Peace be upon you Hello Uncle I have Very Important Question How can i Edit the articles in no reverted and no warning and i am edit why i have revert i am nothing remove of words. JUDDHO (talk) 04:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC) --JUDDHO (talk) 04:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

In reference to your most recent warning, you attempted to remove a template message without actually fixing the issues the template was warning about. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 04:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi JUDDHO. We all have to acknowledge our limitations. There are probably limited tasks you could do here without language proficiency, but you are not limiting yourself to those tasks. You have to speak the language of whatever Wikipedia you are editing sufficiently to make suitable, "rich" edits to the content of articles. (Just as I would have the same limitation if I was editing in your native language.) Your question is in highly garbled English, and looking at some of your edits, they too are garbled, even though made to article content. To give you one isolated example, you added a link in the form "[[Tsenpo|Tsenpo son]]", which appears to be an attempt to indicate the article subject is the son of Tsenpo, or the reverse, but either way, that is not the way that would ever be expressed in English. Now, you did create the article that that edit was made to, but the article when you posted it had to be completely rewritten by others, reading like bad machine translation (it's being considered for deletion at AfD). That's unfair to those here; essentially you're forcing others to do the work you can't do; that's just the way it is because you're trying to edit in a language in which you aren't fluent. Unless you become far more fluent in English, you will never be able to make these types of edits here that won't be reverted or at the least need changing by others. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:08, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Too Complicated Process

Too Complicated Process

The entire process for creating a webpage on Wikipedia is very complicated and no clear guidelines has been provided in my space, due to this, agencies are charging exorbitant fee for creating a page. Is there a possibility of simplifying the process and providing the guidelines or instructions in one go? EarthySky (talk) 07:40, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

EarthySky, welcome to the Teahouse. First off, do not pay any agencies any money, as it is more than likely a scam. Second, I see that you've started a draft in three places (draftspace, your talk page, and your sandbox); I suggest focusing on the one in draftspace, so that it's a little easier on reviewers. Before you continue editing, please understand that creating an article is one of the hardest things to do on here, and that diving in headfirst often always results in disappointment. I suggest taking your time and going through help pages, like Your first article, or tutorials like The Wikipedia Adventure. If you have a conflict of interest with the subject, paid or otherwise, please declare it on your user page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:53, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

DBFkayembe on Debora Kayembe

 Dbfkayembe (talk) 11:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Dbfkayembe, welcome to the Teahouse - what is your question regarding this article? CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Sensing a WP:COI here. GeraldWL 12:28, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: As of 6 February, DBFkayembe has added unreferenced content to Debora Kayembe and Njd-de has been reverting those edits, with Edit summaries provided. Njd-de has left a comment on DBF's Talk page about the COI. Standard advice here is for DBFkayembe to start a discussion on the Talk page of the article (and also address the suspected conflict-of-interest). True content must be verified with citations. David notMD (talk) 12:44, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I need to replace an image upon the editor's request

Hi, the editor Colin Larkin itself would like to see the image of the 3rd edition shown instead of the 1st edition actually on the All Time Top 1000 Albums page. I tried to replace the actual image for the one that I uploaded All-Time Top 1000 Albums - 3rd edition, but is doesn't work. Is it a question of rights? I tried to look in the help pages and I couldn't see a solution. Thanks The Music Guides Playlists (talk) 11:42, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

The Music Guides Playlists, I don't understand-- is this regarding the infobox image? The infobox image is for images of the person itself. GeraldWL 12:30, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I found the image you had uploaded to Commons and have made the change to the article. For avoidance of any copyright issues, you probably need to use the Commons OTRS process to show that Colin Larkin has licenced your "derivative work", namely your photograph of the cover of his book. Contact me if you need assistance with that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Also, please note, The Music Guides Playlists that I didn't change anything else in the infobox at All Time Top 1000 Albums. The dates and ISBN may now need to be altered. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Mike Turnbull Thank you! This is exactly what I needed. So from my understanding, I was doing it right, but I should've add the jpg extension at the end. I updated the information in the box to fit with this 3rd edition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Music Guides Playlists (talk • contribs) 13:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

User:lupin popup

Hello,

I've just had a message telling me to remove user:lupin/popup (or something like that) from my skin. Unfortunately I've been here so long that I've completely forgotten how to do something I probably did ten or twelve years ago and never looked at again. How do I do this please? Please keep your answers to beginner level. Thanks. Sophie means wisdom (talk) 10:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC) (now there's an ironic username!)

Hi Sophie means wisdom, welcome to the Teahouse. It's in User:Sophie means wisdom/vector.js and User:Sophie means wisdom/monobook.js. You can remove the first six lines in each page. The message refers to a replacement you can choose to enable at "Navigation popups" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Done. Thank you! Sophie means wisdom (talk) 14:08, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

How to avoid edit ping-pong

Hullo - I wonder if a more experienced contributor can help. I’ve made some additions to an entry as news changes. Another new editor has questioned my motives and as a result the article is now flagged as disputed ‘repeatedly adding defamatory or libelous material to articles about living people over an extended period’ .

This isn’t my intention. The information is neither defamatory or libellous, it simply provides additional context to an entry which is otherwise pretty sparse.

I don’t just want to dive in and undo the other contributors deletions but I’d assume the point of Wikipedia is to develop entries rather than delete others’ additions. Any advice gratefully received. AugustB1914 (talk) 13:15, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

You and at least two other editors appear to be hashing it out at Vicky Ford. The proper place to have a discussion is on the Talk page of the article. Two editors are quibbling there - join them. P.S. see WP:Deletionism. David notMD (talk) 13:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

The introduction of terms such as "volte-face" and "miserly" into an article about a living person have been rightly reverted. Please see our policy on MOS:LABEL.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

How do I move around tables?

How do I move tables? Hello, I'm an amateur Wikipedia editor. I wanted to add a chart, but I can't move it around. How do I? I ask this to help improve Wii Sports Club because I figured to add a chart to make a list easier to read. Leo Aguado (talk) 19:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@Leo Aguado: do you mean a summary of review ratings, like at Paper Mario: The Origami King#Reception? Click "Edit" on an article with a table like the one you want to add, copy it, and mess around with lobbing chunks off or replacing text in it to work out what it does. In this case the format would be {{Video game reviews | XYZ = 100/100<ref>Reference here</ref>}} where the "XYZ" is an abbreviation for the reviewer name (like "Metacritic") that you can look up at Template:Video game reviews#Code. If this isn't the type of table you're talking about, provide as much detail as you can about what you want as the desired final display. — Bilorv (talk) 01:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@Bilorv: Oh wow! Thank you for the code. I will help improve Wikipedia. Leo Aguado (talk) 15:27, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

LastObject feedback

Please give your advice on ways to improve Draft:LastObject. It is a proprely stated WP:COI contribution about a Danish sustainable products manufacturer. The article was reviewed at the WP:AfC and declined. I asked the reviewer for his feedback, asking to clarify what extactly needs to be changed, but he didn't reply. The reviewer highlighted that the article needs to be reworked to be “in a more encyclopedic format” and that “peacock terms that promote the subject” should be avoided. It is hard to understant from this feedback which teams are "peacock" and which parts of phrases are promotional. Bbarmadillo (talk) 14:51, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Bbarmadillo. You should bear in mind that going into too much detail about aspects of a business can appear promotional. For instance I would remove most of the information in the 'Products' section, instead focusing on a broader overview and what is most important. From a quick glance, there might also be a problem with not enough significant coverage in independent reliable sources to establish notability. Zindor (talk) 15:13, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Zindor, thanks, this is very helpful. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 15:32, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

My draft not accepted

 Courtesy link: Draft:Arya Kinchitkumar Shah

Please don't reject me Arya Kinchitkumar Shah (talk) 09:49, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Arya Kinchitkumar Shah. My guess is that your question is about Draft:Arya Kinchitkumar Shah, but if it's not please clarify what is being rejected. I also think that you're misunderstanding what Wikipedia is about; so, I suggest you take a careful look at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything. If you still have questions about why the draft you submitted was rejected after reading those pages, feel free to ask them here at the Teahouse and a host will try to help you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Sock blocked and locked. Please stop wasting your time creating accounts to evade your blocks and create drafts on yourself, you will not succeed in getting an article. Pahunkat (talk) 12:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

AKS has created (at least) five accounts at Wikipedia (all blocked) and has been deleted/blocked at Wikipedia Commons, Simpsons Wiki, Indian Wiki, Scholarpedia and History Wikia. David notMD (talk) 13:15, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

David notMD, more than five - see Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Aryashahnaughty. Pahunkat (talk) 13:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Oy! David notMD (talk) 15:45, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

need an editor

Hello. 1)I have written a complete article along with detailed footnotes (and it is excellent), but as a 70-year-old, following the instructions on your website to make it ready for publication is simply not possible. I believe you have people who can make that happen, but cannot follow the maze of the website to figure out how to find one.

2) There are many highlighted areas that need to be linked to other computer sites. Do I need to have someone do the for me before sending it to you, or will your editor do that, also?

Thank you so much for your answer. Best regards, Sallie Salliemid (talk) 14:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Salliemid, welcome to the Teahouse and thank you for wanting to contribute to Wikipedia. Have you tried using the article wizard linked at Help:Your first article? After your article is uploaded we can help fix or highlight any issues. Providing everything is ok it'll then be published. Let us know if you need further assistance. Regards, Zindor (talk) 15:27, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Help:Referencing for beginners will also be helpful. That explains how to embed references in the body of the draft, so that those will then be automatically numbered and displayed in the References section. P.S. For some of us, 70 is a youngster. David notMD (talk) 15:53, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

How to remove an incorrect redirect?

I would like to create an article for a very famous art collector, Baron Herzog (aka Mór Lipót Herzog) but there is a redirect from his name to the Wikipedia page of a winery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baron_Herzog&redirect=no

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kedem_Winery

How can I remove the redirect? Thankyou

Eli185 (talk) 15:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC) Eli185 (talk) 15:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey Eli185, When you are redirected you will always see at the top of the resulting page, just below the title of the page:

(Redirected from NAME)

If you then click on the link provided, you can access the redirect itself; remove the code that looks like this: #REDIRECT [[Name]], etc. and edit away. For more, please see Wikipedia:Redirect.

I haven't looked at your edits, so I just say this prophylactically, as it's so commonly an issue with new entries: please be sure to demonstrate the notability of whatever you are writing about (and verify the information content), by citing your sources–mostly through reliable, secondary, independent sources. Gathering your sources first, and then writing only about what they verify is the best way to write suitable articles. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

thank you :) Eli185 (talk) 16:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm new!

Hi! As you can see, I'm new to editing Wikipedia. Can you give me some tips on how to make edits as well as providing good sources? Thanks. 51.7.187.36 (talk) 17:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor. There are a lot of help pages that you can peruse (like Easy referencing for beginners, or the interactive tutorial over at The Wikipedia Adventure. If you create an account, it will be easier for editors that volunteer to welcome new users to leave helpful links on your user talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:15, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Question about a notice advising me to "Find sources".

I've had a notice on a draft that I have pretty much completed, which says:

Find sources: Google (books · news · newspapers · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · NYT · TWL 

The page that I have created is about the UK author Ron Weighell. I assume that "sources" means other references to the subject (Ron Weighell)? If so, I have already added a bibliography, to cover books. And what does "WP" stand for?

Thanks in advance for advice. I am keen to get the page about Ron Weighell published, not only as a source of reference, but as a lasting memorial to his work (he passed in December 2020).

Best wishes and stay safe,

Nick Goodall Nick Goodall (talk) 13:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Nick Goodall, and welcome to the Teahouse. I have added a header to Draft:Ron Weighell, by which you can submit it for review when it is ready; but I am afraid that it is nowhere near ready. The main problem is indeed lack of sources. What you have done is to build an entire, elaborate house, without preparing the foundations, or even checking that the ground is firm. Independent, reliably published sources are the foundations on which any Wikipedia article must be built, because only information from a reliably published source may be included in a Wikipedia article. At present your draft does nothing to establish that Weighell meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and until it does at least that, the draft has no chance of being accepted (that's what I mean by "checking the ground is firm": if Weighell does not in fact meet these criteria, then all the work you have done to build your draft will have been wasted). Please read Help:YFA, and V if you haven't already.

Other points: the list of his works is far too long: a representative selection may appear, but Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Note also that Wikipedia is not a memorial site. It is an encyclopaedia, consisting of neutrally written articles (which your draft is not) about Notable subjects (by Wikipedia's definition, which Weighell may or may not meet), based almost entirely on what independent reliably published sources say (which both the language and the detail in your draft suggest to me that it is not this either). Also There is no deadline.

Signing this reply, because I failed to: --ColinFine (talk) 14:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi Nick Goodall. Because proper sourcing and their use is the lifeblood of Wikipedia of Wikipedia articles and their content, with all of our core content policies and guidelines, such as notability, verifiability, neutral point of view, and no original research, converging on aspects of sourcing, the AfC submission template naturally includes a section for "Editor resources", which provides these links as suggestions to places to search for sources as a facilility for users to use, if needed.

Their use would not be to find more works written by the author subject of your draft, but sources to cite in it to demonstrate his notability and verify the information content. In that regard, the draft will be declined at this time, because it does not demonstrate either notability, nor is its content verified. You have cited a single source, for one statement, when the entire draft needs sourcing.

As to your second question, "WP" is short for "Wikipedia" and its use as as alias shortcut is very useful here (in fact, I am in the midst of composing a page specifically regarding its use, that's not yet done, but you might find useful even in its unfinished stage: User talk:Fuhghettaboutit/Help:WP Protocol). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:49, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Response from Nick Goodall

Many thanks for the assistance. I'm not sure if here is the correct method to reply to you. Unfortunately, I did not see the information about a header having been added to facilitate submission for review until after I had submitted it.

I understand the concept of notability and firm foundations from what you have said. It will take me a little while to get my head fully around the concept of sources, but basically it seems to be independent, reliable, online sources that mention Weighell or his work.

I do not entirely understand the rationale behind what you said about the list of his works being far too long and indiscriminate. I would have thought that it is more important for a bibliography to be complete and comprehensive rather than selective? Weighell was no J. K. Rowling but I assume that her entry contains a complete list of her work? However, I could remove references to anything that appeared in journals as opposed to printed (mostly hardback) books, if you think that would help.

Thanks also for explaining the abbreviation WP - I hit my forehead with my hand when I read that!

Finally, I understand about WP (I'm a fast learner) not being a memorial site. It's my intention for the entry to preserve references to his work, rather than the man, but I will see what I can do to make his biography more neutral.

Best wishes,

Nick Goodall (adding a signature as I just found out how to) --Nick Goodall (talk) 16:54, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello again, Nick. Sources do not have to be online, as long as they have been reliably published (so that an interested reader could get hold of them, eg through a major library). If they are available online, then it's helpful to provide a URL, but except in the case of web-only sources, that is a convenience, not an essential part of the citation.

I take back what I said about the bibliography: for my taste, an article that consists mostly of lists of works is unbalanced, but looking at BIBLIO, I see that it says "Complete lists of works, appropriately sourced to reliable scholarship (WP:V), are encouraged, particularly when such lists are not already freely available on the internet". --ColinFine (talk) 16:34, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

COURTESY: Draft:Ron Weighell needs HUGE amounts of work. Biographical articles are not biographies. Cut everything that cannot be attributed to published sources. Create sections. See Terry Pratchett for an article ranked Good Article as example. Not saying your article needs 187 references, but it needs more than one. Given submitted, it is possible (likely) that your submission will be declined before you can improve it. Despair not. Work on it, then resubmit. David notMD (talk) 16:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello again, Clearly I still have a lot to do to get the article to comply with WP standards to a sufficient extent that it would stand a chance of being published. I will endeavour to complete this work over the coming weeks. Is it safe to assume that the draft will not be deleted by an administrator? Or would it be preferable for me to recreate the article in my Sandbox instead and work on improvements there? Pardon my lack of knowledge of WP processes and standards. It is my intention to learn on the job, as opposed to first gaining a comprehensive knowledge of WP processes and standards before writing an article. --Nick Goodall (talk) 12:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Your Declined once, not resubmitted draft is a safe place to work on improving the draft. No deadline. Abandoned drafts are deleted at six months, but not those with progress being made. David notMD (talk) 17:49, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

How do you embed a link on a word?

Like, when an article has a blue word, the link to a page is embeds, how do you use that? "I hope no one looks at my plans while I happen to be asleep" Verbose Dr. T (talk) 17:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@"I hope no one looks at my plans while I happen to be asleep" Verbose Dr. T: Welcome to Wikipedia. To create a link like that (called a "wikilink") enclose it in double square brackets. For example [[Baseball]] produces Baseball. If you want to learn more, check out WP:TUTORIAL and the interactive learning game at WP:ADVENTURE RudolfRed (talk) 17:55, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by "I hope no one looks at my plans while I happen to be asleep" Verbose Dr. T (talk • contribs) 18:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Flagged potential copyright infringement, maybe disappeared

Hello, in draft I am creating I think I have seen a flag of "potential copyright violation", now I don't see it anymore. Either it is gone or I don't see it (and a senior editor will :-) ),

is there a way to check this is gone? Are there tools directly within wikipedia to check this? I obviously did not copy and paste anything voluntarily, but I added sentences I have seen other 4-5 websites, the chances of wrinting the same things are high. If there is a very similar text, I would remove myself to avoid having everything deleted for this, but first I need to know where is the problem. I can share the draft here, if tha can help Minddeep (talk) 17:11, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

According to earwig there is a 59% chance of copyright infringement [16] all content needs to be written in your own words. Theroadislong (talk) 17:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Most of the content at Draft:Christian Barillot is not referenced. As a separate problem, https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/ is a copyright violation program, and as Theroadislong pointed out, too much of what you have put into the draft is either directly copied or only lightly paraphrased from existing websites. The Earwig program shows the copied text. Remove this from the draft and try again. David notMD (talk) 17:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Understood, I am re-writing everything — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minddeep (talk • contribs) 19:13, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

adding LE CANARD ENCHAINE to the list of satyrical magazines..........i cannot do this, can someone help. it REALLY SHOULD BE THERE!!!!

 XTP123 (talk) 18:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Le Canard enchaîné is already included in List of satirical magazines. Maybe you didn't spell it correctly?--Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Delete draft?

FYI

 – Heading added by Tenryuu.

I send an article in AfC, in same time the article was created and i add my text to it, also my article was declined, i understand it but how can i delete my draft now that it exists? Peehbgs (talk) 19:07, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@Peehbgs: Is this about Draft:Flowers_For_Vases_/_Descansos? There is already an article for it at Flowers_for_Vases_/_Descansos. If you wish to delete your draft, edit it to add {{Db-g7}} to it, and then an admin will delete it. RudolfRed (talk) 19:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

why they keep deleted my page WCC-FM

 DJ JAYLON (talk) 19:48, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@DJ JAYLON: The explanation is given in the messages on your talk page. Do not continue to try and recreate it. RudolfRed (talk) 19:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Uploading picture (copyright question)

Hallo,

I am trying to upload a picture of a scientist of my field on a page. The guy passed away and I don't have any direct contact, how do I know a picture I found online is free from copyright? Does the fact the picture has been used in several websites (including official journals and conferences) make it of common use? I cannot obviously contact him as he is dead. Minddeep (talk) 16:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Minddeep. All pictures you find on the internet are assumed non-free fully copyrighted uinless you have affirmative evidence to the contrary. The fact that they are used in a variety of places is irrelevant; indicia of nothing (numerous websites casually violate copyright; also people use images under license from the copyright owner [which we do not allow here]). What you need to look for is a release associated with the image, such as into the public domain, or under a suitably free and compatible free copyright license. You can also look for some status that means the image is automatically in the public domain, such as having been published before 1925, or having been taken by a U.S. federal employee in their role as a federal employee. Given the context of your question, it appears you have not found anything like that. We do allow limited use of some non=free images under fair use, which only applies if ever obtaining a free image is not reasonably likely. I literally must run; or I would say more about the fair use ability. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:16, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Following on from the above, Minddeep is this in relation to this image you uploaded as CC-BY-SA-4.0? I note on the source website that it's attributed to a specific author, which would present a problem unless the photographer is you or the licence is stated somewhere i missed. Regards, Zindor (talk) 17:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't know how to solve this, and I don't want to turn crazy, it was just to give a contribution to a guy I admire. I think the best solution is to remove completely the picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minddeep (talk • contribs) 18:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Minddeep, I understand. I notice that other images used elsewhere on the web contain the attribution 'picture with courtesy of INSERM/P.Latron', so I suspect that if you contacted INSERM and asked them to upload the picture to Wikimedia Commons under a free licence such as CC-BY-SA-4.0, that they might consider it. As for the current upload, without confirmation of the licence, it'll have to be deleted. I can tag it for you if you like. Zindor (talk) 19:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I already removed the link to the page, no idea how to remove the image from wikipedia completely, please go ahead.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Minddeep (talk • contribs) 19:47, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Sure, will do. I hope this works out for you eventually. Please sign your responses with four tildes ~~~~ Zindor (talk) 20:05, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Casal and FAMEL

Last year I contributed for the first time to a wikipedia page, called Casal, and some days ago I contributed to another, called Famel. I understand I have been blocked because my contributions include photos which already appeared in the net. I have done so with permision from the owners of the sites, blogs, from where these photos were taken and this is to ask you what I must do so that both the photos and me as a contributor to these pages can be "unblocked". Best regards, Pedro Oliveira Pedro Oliveira 999 (talk) 20:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

You have this backwards. The entity that needs permission is the entity who will host the images - and Wikipedia will not seek such permission. You are not blocked, nor were you ever. All that happened is your edits were reverted (and odds are the images will be removed as well; we do NOT treat copyright as a toy). That is it. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 20:30, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

The article on Casal currently cites no sources at all. Unless you can rectify that, it's likely to be deleted, regardless of any images on it. Maproom (talk) 20:36, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Help removing vandalism

I'm trying to remove vandalism on the following page: List of most popular smartphone apps. I tried to revert an edit, but the edit still appears on the page. How do I properly remove vandalism without manually removing it? Thank you for your help! Somerandomuser (talk) 18:40, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@Somerandomuser: Thanks for fixing it The revert looks correct to me. RudolfRed (talk) 19:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Hi. I looked at the edit and the vandalism still appears to me. I also tried reloading the page. It's still there. Somerandomuser (talk) 21:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I've reverted the page back to a stable and good revision. Hope this helps! WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 21:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Kelly Price - Actress article

IcHello! my article titled above seems to have been deleted and I was just wondering why. Thanks. Mabgruncle (talk) 21:35, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mabgruncle: Kelly_Price_(actress) was moved to User:Mabgruncle/Kelly_Price_(actress), presumably so that you can continue to work on it, since it has no references. RudolfRed (talk) 21:40, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Confusingly, there is also Draft:Kelly_Price_(actress), which you are also working on. RudolfRed (talk) 21:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

how do you create a new wikipedia page for an organization

 Frogsclub (talk) 21:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Frogsclub. I suggest reading Your first article, which also provides a link to an article creation wizard. Please be aware that creating an article is one of the hardest things to do on here, and doing relatively smaller things like editing preexisting articles will help build experience towards things like creating articles. Also make sure that the subject of the article is notable by Wikipedia's standards, and if you have any conflict of interest, paid or otherwise, please disclose it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:10, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Frogsclub, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid that from your wording it sounds as if you have a (very common) misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia does not have "pages for" organizations (or anything else): it has "articles about" them. These articles do not belong to their subject, are not for the benefit of their subject, and are not controlled by their subject. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources.. If there are such sources (so that your organisation meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability), then an article about it can be created. If, as I'm, guessing, you are involved with the organisation, then you have a conflict of interest, and you are discouraged from creating the article, because it is likely to be difficult for you to write sufficiently neutrally: to start with, you will have to forget everything you know about it, and write only from what those independent sources say.

Having said all this, you are not forbidden from trying this extremely difficult task. If you want to, then after reading the links I have inserted in the previous paragraph, start by reading your first article, and use the Article wizard to create a draft. --ColinFine (talk) 22:13, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Error Data and when changed it was gone to protective

Hi,

For https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponnur_(Assembly_constituency) in wiki the winner of 2019 assembly is Elections is Kilari Venkata Rosaiah not Dhulipalla Narendra Kumar and polled votes changed. When tried to correct it, some user have reverted the changes and moved the page in to protected mode.

Attaching a links for 2019 results of Ponnur https://www.dnaindia.com/assembly-elections/andhra-pradesh/constituency-list/ponnur-election-results-2019 https://www.news18.com/assembly-elections-2019/andhra-pradesh-ponnur-results-s01a088/ Juggernaut4AP (talk) 15:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Juggernaut4AP, thank you for raising this. If you're having trouble with I.P vandalism in future you can place a request at WP:RFPP for page protection. I've managed to track down that missing government source here and I'll give you a hand restoring the article shortly. Zindor (talk) 22:34, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Help me with the copywrite issue

Hey Teahouse, I'm Abeshek working as the SEO manager at AntWak. Recently I have published an article in the name "7 Top emerging trends of Digital Marketing post Covid-19", but it was rejected for the reason of Copywrite issue. The reason why it's on another website is, I have submitted AntWak article as an article submission to the website "https://vocal.media/journal/7-top-emerging-trends-of-digital-marketing-post-covid-19". Kindly let me know what should I do for this Copywrite issue, should I provide a credit to the website "vocal media"? If yes, then let me know how I can do that. Thanks in advance! Abeshek0419 (talk) 17:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Abeshek0419. Please read about what Wikipedia is not. A standalone article on the "7 Top emerging trends of Digital Marketing post Covid-19" would not be suitable for inclusion. I'd be inclined to reject a re-submission even if the copyright issue be fixed. Zindor (talk) 17:53, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

You're also obligated to disclose your employment. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 19:11, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Note: User now blocked. Zindor (talk) 23:18, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello.

I am new here, and I just wanna ask you if there are any sections in this website where I can talk to people who are actively editing or making articles here. If there aren't, then I'll find somewhere else. Thanks :) Wikipedium2021 (talk) 12:07, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedium2021, welcome to the Teahouse - well to answer you: You seem exactly to be in the right place. What is your question? CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedium2021, if you want advice on editing, this is the place, but if you just want to chat to other Wikipedians, your best bet is probably our Discord server, where you can find other Teahouse guests and hosts (as well as lots of content creators) discussing both Wikipedia related and offtopic things. Giraffer ^{(talk·contribs)} 15:55, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@Wikipedium2021: For another alternative, see Wikipedia:IRC. GoingBatty (talk) 23:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Pseudo/fringe science

Is there a wikiproject or noticeboard on Wikipedia that deals with pseudo/fringe science? I am thinking that the new article Emil Kirkegaard needs a once-over. Possibly (talk) 23:13, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I have answered my own question: Wikipedia:WikiProject Skepticism. Possibly (talk) 23:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

That article was previously deleted and had a sock-puppet problem. I previously raised this issue at WP:FTN (fringe theories noticeboard) this morning [17]. Also see discussion here [18] Psychologist Guy (talk) 23:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you! Possibly (talk) 00:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

In need of help from users who can contribute in another language (Dutch)

Hey Teahouse! Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I need to find an editor who can contribute with a sufficient level of Dutch and is willing to help me with an article. This article is about Naaz Mohammed, a singer from the Netherlands who receives a tiny bit of coverage in English, but I looked up her name in Dutch Google and there's a ton of potential references there that could help me expand the article, but I do not know a word of Dutch, and Google Translate is inaccurate..

So my question is: are there any editors here that are able and willing to help me? And if not, is there a place I can be referred to in order to find editors who will help me? Ping me in your replies, thank you. versacespace (talk) 05:18, 6 February 2021 (UTC) versacespace (talk) 05:18, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, VersaceSpace. There is an active editor Drmies who is a native Dutch speaker and is also completely fluent in English. I have no idea if he will be interested in this topic. That is up to him. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Cullen328 "she/her" - Drmies is a woman. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Dodger67, I have met Drmies once in real life and know a fair amount about his family. He may joke around but he is a man. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Dodger67, when I see men talk on social media I wish I were a woman. I don't know if I'm always joking around, Cullen328, but I do know that I am not as manly as many men. I also know it rubs me the wrong way when people assume I'm a man because I'm an administrator. I'll have a look at the article, VersaceSpace--thanks. Drmies (talk) 17:20, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Let me just add that the certified expert, with a Harvard degree in the anthropology of karaoke, is User:Ucucha, and is Dutch as well. I mean, they're Frisian or something like that, but still. Drmies (talk) 17:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Drmies, thank you. versacespace (talk) 17:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

versacespace, there were a ton of YouTube and other links in there. Drmies (talk) 17:30, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I do agree that the article has a bunch of reference issues (and other issues as well), hence why I was asking for help with Dutch references as a secondary source would help me here, although admittedly I did add some of the YouTube references (this was the first article I started editing when I joined) because I had no idea what WP:RSP was. The article was originally completely unsourced in the career section though, and I know more about editing then I did months ago. Thanks, versacespace (talk) 17:36, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

versacespace, thanks for beefing up that article--we should be able to do a bit more. I gotta do some other things right now, but if you want to search around in some Dutch sources and put the links on the talk page, I can look at them if you ping me. Look for articles in Trouw, Het Parool, de Volkskrant, NRC Handelsblad (the big Dutch newspapers), and see maybe if you can find something about those Edisons. Take care, Drmies (talk) 18:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

There are also other wikipedias for different languages (and this is the english one.) Im a shoe2 (talk) 00:10, 7 February 2021 (UTC) Oh... Im a shoe2 (talk) 00:10, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Questions and Feedback requested

• Draft:Wallace Rasmussen

Hi. Several editors gave me great advice the other day. I have already thanked them individually, but thanks again. After making the suggested edits, I would appreciate feedback on my updated draft. Also, could you answer a few questions please: 1) Do the new references that I added enhance the notability of my subject? 2)I added a new section, "Published works," but could find no ISBN or OCLC for the publication. I added a citation, but I'm sure there is a better solution. Any suggestions? Thank you for your time. Phoenix7119 (talk) 11:39, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Still WAY TOO MUCH Studs Terkel interview content. Wikipedia does not consider interviews as contributing to notability, nor quotations of the person the article is about. David notMD (talk) 13:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

OK. I took your advice and removed most of the the Studs Terkel interview content. Then, I located more information about a study that Rasmussen co-wrote. This information appears to be a better fit. Tell me what you think. Any of you. I welcome the feedback. Phoenix7119 (talk) 02:43, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Change a photo

 Courtesy link: Allegra Edwards

Hi! Someone created a Wikipedia page about me and I am trying to replace the main photo that is used. The current photo is unflattering. How do I replace it?

Thanks! AllegraRoseE (talk) 02:10, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

AllegraRoseE, if you want a better photo, you can take one by yourself and upload it to Wikimedia Commons under a free license. Meaning that it cannot be copyrighted. However note that high quality photos are more welcomed than low quality. GeraldWL 02:31, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Gerald Waldo Luis, "Meaning that it cannot be copyrighted" is not accurate. AllegraRoseE, you can upload a picture to which you hold the copyright (eg a selfie, but not a picture taken by somebody else unless they have formally assigned you the copyright) to Wikimedia Commons, licensing it under a licence that allows anybody to use it for any purpose, but you will still hold the copyright. --ColinFine (talk) 12:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@AllegraRoseE: You should also not be editing the article about you, since you have a conflict of interest. After you upload your photo, you can post at Talk:Allegra Edwards using the {{request edit}} template to ask other people to update the photo or make any other changes. GoingBatty (talk) 02:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@AllegraRoseE: Hi, may I assume you would prefer this file already on Commons you uploaded? This could be done (although I would suggest cropping some of the empty space). --LordPeterII (talk) 00:07, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

According to the metadata of c:File:Allegra_Edwards_HS.jpg, the image author and copyright holder is "JESSICA CASTRO PHOTOGRAPHY", yet AllegraRoseE has claimed "own work". The apparently same file is the top pic at her website at http://allegraedwards.com/grid , where there is (understandably) no claim of a suitable free license. Another photo on the site (e.g. at http://allegraedwards.com/about ) is also attributed "Photo by Jessica Castro".

AllegraRoseE, it looks like you need to follow WP:DCM if, indeed, Jessica Castro intends to release the pic under the required free license (to repeat, meaning it can be modified and re-used by anyone for any reason, including sale, as long as they attribute the author). Otherwise, the image cannot remain on Commons. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 02:44, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Block reversions without adequate justification, warnings ignored - what's the next step?

An editor has made repeated wholesale block deletions of material from a header on the page of a controversial BLP subject without adequate justification, and ignored Level-2 and level-4 warnings. Probable ideological motivation. What are my options?

Another editor user has repeatedly made wholesale block deletion of material from the header of an article on a controversial BLP subject. The user in question has said there is no consensus without referring to any specific policy. I'm familiar with WP:Stonewalling and know that it's putting the cart before the horse to simply say "there's no consensus", and know that per Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary they should not be removing material in large blocks without discussion or attempts to improve it. The material they've deleted is based on around a dozen academic sources and represents the mainstream academic view of the subject. There have been extended discussions on the talk page but the editor in question has not participated in them. I left them lvl-2 and lvl-4 warnings for disruptive editing which they simply ignored.

I feel that they've essentially sabotaged the page and that their removal of material is probably ideologically motivated (for example, they've removed material unflattering to the subject but left material that isn't). The page is they've left it is a whitewash that ignores every academic view I've seen of the subject. What are my potential remedies? Unfortunately what I think they are trying to do is say that consensus opposes the material they removed (ie they disagree) and essentially stonewall to prevent this material from ever being re-added. Noteduck (talk) 00:48, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: I am guessing this is about edit war atDouglas Murray (author). Or is it something else? David notMD (talk) 01:34, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

yes, that's it Noteduck (talk) 01:41, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Noteduck, I'd like to make an observation that there seem to be several editors keen to discuss the text and reach a consensus. Unless you feel there's strong stable consensus on a previous revision, an option you might consider would be to yield to the removal of the contentious text and focus instead on efforts to construct new consensus-based prose.

Something that shouldn't be your first resort, but you should be aware of, is the edit warring noticeboard. Regards, Zindor (talk) 02:50, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Question from Matthias3390

Hey, I want to make a wikipedia page about the Belgian young tennis player, Sofia Costoulas.

I had make a user page about her, before to post it on Wikipedia. But I can't use the url: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofia%20Costoulas

So what's the problem?

Thanks. Matthias3390 (talk) 08:16, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Matthias3390, welcome to the Teahouse. It appears you've used your own user page, User:Matthias3390, to write the article. If you'd like, one of us can move it to Draft:Sofia Costoulas for you to continue working on it. If you haven't, read Your first article; it will guide you in writing an appropriate article for Wikipedia; just be aware that creating a new article on Wikipedia is one of the hardest things you can do. When you're absolutely sure you're ready, add {{subst:submit}} to the top. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 08:20, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

How can I undelete / view the page: Mendota_Mdewakanton_Dakota_Community

This page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendota_Mdewakanton_Dakota_Community was deleted by DGG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG

I would like to undelete it, and edit it so that DGG no longer feels it should be deleted. Ckcelite (talk) 04:22, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Unless you're a administrator you can't see, let alone undelete, deleted content. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 04:30, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

The reason given for the deletion, "G11", is defined as "This applies to pages that are exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to serve as encyclopedia articles, rather than advertisements. If a subject is notable and the content could plausibly be replaced with text written from a neutral point of view, this is preferable to deletion. Note: Any article that describes its subject from a neutral point of view does not qualify for this criterion. However, "promotion" does not necessarily mean commercial promotion: anything can be promoted, including a person, a non-commercial organization, a point of view, etc." David notMD (talk) 04:40, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Leave a comment on DGG's Talk page, asking what options there are to forward a draft to you. David notMD (talk) 04:38, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Ckcelite. Have you tried asking DGG about this? Depending upon the reasons why a page was deleted, an administrator may agree to restore it at their discretion. Maybe if you intend to address the reasons why the article was deleted, DGG will restore it as a draft that you can work on improving and then submit to WP:AFC for review when you think it’s ready. However, the deleted version might’ve been so unacceptable that there’s no point in restoring it since it can’t possibly be fixed. In that case, you may just have to start from scratch with a completely new draft. You will need to ask DGG or another administrator which case applies to this page. — Marchjuly (talk) 04:43, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Ckcelite The article is straight advocacy, written as an appeal for funds, beginning "We are the Mendota Mdewakanton Dakota Community, and we are here today fulfilling that prophesy as best we can in the place where our direct ancestors lived." and ending "HERE’S HOW YOU CAN HELP: Use this link: DONATIONS to go to the page on our website from which you can choose the amount and type of donation you wish to make. ... please send our homepage link to your friends there as well. In this way our message will spread out, and through the power of the many we will meet our immediate critical need." There are no references. Compare our article Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux Community--an good start at an article on a similar group, though even here, most of the sources are not third-party. If you want to write an article, do it in draft space using the WP:Article Wizard, but first find sources, be sure not to copy any previously published source, and remember to maintain a neutral tone.

The article was written in 2010, and did not meet our standards even then. At the time had less effective ways of reviewing submissions from new editors, but even so, I'm astonished it took so long to be noticed. i wonder how many similar we might have--despite the work involved, all unsourced articles need to be reviewed. DGG ( talk ) 06:07, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

As an administrator who can review deleted content, I am in complete agreement with DGG on this matter. The deleted article was unreferenced and highly promotional, and written in the voice of the Mendota Mdewakanton Dakota Community, violating several Wikipedia policies. To be clear, I am not saying thst the Mendota Mdewakanton Dakota Community is not notable. Perhaps it is, but that depends on whether or not that community is the subject of significant coverage in independent reliable sources. But that old deleted article is of no use in writing a new article that complies with policies and guidelines. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:24, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi again Ckcelite. Based on what has been posted above by DGG and Cullen328, who are both administrators and who can see the deleted article, it sounds like there's really no point in trying to get the page restored as is. If that was your intention, then you might want to take a look at WP:NOT for more details as to why such a thing is pretty much never going to happen. You might want to also take a look at WP:ALTERNATIVE because there are other websites (some of which even use a format similar to that used by Wikipedia) in which such a type of page would be no problem. Now, if you had nothing to do with the previous deleted version and your purpose is really to just try and create a Wikipedia article about the community, then you can of course start a draft for one. If you do try this though, you're going to have to do your best to do so in accordance with WP:42 and realize that it will need to be an neutrally written encyclopedic article about the community and not a promotional piece written for the benefit of the community. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:31, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

How to edit?

How to edit the wikipedia? Goodnewsbuhay (talk) 09:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Goodnewsbuhay, welcome to the Teahouse. You might have a look at the How to Guide Help:Editing. Hope that helps. CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:29, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Setmroger

Sir i have created one page and submitted but they marked it speedy deletion can you help me to improve my article and rectify the problem my page name is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Www.bismatrimony.com Setmroger (talk) 07:22, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Setmroger, your page has a litany of promotional content and other non-compliant elements. Please read Help:Your first article and Help:Introduction before proceeding. Since you are a paid editor, we are not going to hold your hand through every part of the process. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:39, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Dear Sir I am not a paid editor this page is mine and i am the CEO of this website i made this article my self but they marked as a speedy deletion kindly help me to improve this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Setmroger (talk • contribs)

You have a financial conflict of interest when writing about your own website, so yes, you are a paid editor. See WP:PAID. We are not going to do your advertising for you—read the rules and stop wasting our time as volunteers. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:58, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Bis Matrimony is one of many matrimony service providers for the Malayalee population in India and elsewhere, and as such, probably does not rise to Wikipedia's definition of being a notable company. David notMD (talk) 11:32, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Help me create an article about the musician NikFox

Hi! Help me create an article about the musician NikFox Nikitasmirnovva (talk) 10:59, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

You mean, create an article about you? No. When you're notable, people will create an article about you. They won't need to be asked to do so. -- Hoary (talk) 12:24, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Re. Non-finite clause

Would someone give me a hand in initiating either a change to the article's title (e.g., to Non-finite phrase) or in a wholesale deletion of the article? See my rationale on the relevant talk page: "Non-finite clause" as a spurious title (and premise) for this article. Cheers. --Kent Dominic·(talk) 10:26, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

This is better discussed in the article's talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 12:31, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Questions about new content and references

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Wallace_Rasmussen

Hi. I added new content and made new edits to my article. Is anyone available to take a look? I welcome the feedback. Thanks. Phoenix7119 (talk) 04:20, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Phoenix7119, this looks like an inappropriate decline by Noidaabc, so I'm going to accept it. Noidaacbc, you declined based on notability, but the draft at the time you declined it had references to obituaries in The Chicago Tribune and the WSJ. Together, those qualify for GNG. The page still has some other issues, but please remember that your job as an AfC reviewer is to assess whether it'd survive an AfD, and this clearly would. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:48, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Sdkb. Thanks so much. This means more than you know. Phoenix7119 (talk) 12:57, 7 February 2021 (UTC)