User talk:PrimeHunter

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Just a note of thanks ...

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"Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Template:Largest Israeli cities" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Move page

Hi PrimeHunter.. Can you help me to move Kendrick Lee Yen Hui to Kendrick Lee? I have trying to moved the page per WP:NCP, but Kendrick Lee page redirect to Kendrick Lee Yen Hui. I hope you can help. Thank you Stvbastian (talk) 09:45, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

@Stvbastian: Yen Hui has been in the title (at different positions) for 15 years since creation. Based on Google the short form appears more common but it's not a big difference. I think it should go through WP:RM. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:28, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Season by category

Template:Season by category has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Izno (talk) 21:01, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Template:Sort keys?

{{Sort keys}} has no transclusions, incoming links, documentation, or categories. I would usually take it to TFD, but you tend to know what you are doing, so I am asking here first. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:39, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: Thanks. I sometimes get sidetracked and never return. Example use: Sort keys for Category:2021 ATP Tour. I think it has some uses for editors working on category sorting, e.g. to sort singles and doubles more systematically in Category:2021 ATP Tour. Can you give me a week to think about working on documentation, links and some other things? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:43, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Sure, take your time. It may get nominated by someone else, but you should receive a notice. There is a group of us working to clean up Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused templates/1. If the template has one transclusion on any page, it will drop out of the report, which will make it less likely that someone TFD's it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:01, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

maint cat problem

Hi, I'm stumped with on member of Category:Articles with invalid date parameter in template, a redirect - Noelle Bush. I'm not sure what is causing this, the redirect itself doesn't show the cat and hasn't been edited in years. Since it's protected, I can't try a null edit myself. You may want to add {{R to section}} to categorize it also, since it is the only uncategorized page from before 2022. MB 19:51, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

@MB: Something, probably systematic null edits to pages which haven't been edited for a long time, is causing category updates recently. The error category was added by {{uncategorized|date=November 2015}} before a bot responded by creating Category:Uncategorized from November 2015 today. I have added {{R to section}} as suggested. Category pages are often updated much later than the list of categories on a page. I wouldn't be surprised if Category:Uncategorized pages soon gets other newly bot-created subcategories. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:38, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

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Category:PAGES WITH LOGIN REQUIRED REFERENCES OR SOURCES has been nominated for deletion

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox box office number-one films

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People in their 50s dying of old age

People in their 50s dying of old age

William Hartnell was about 55 years old when he played the original incarnation of the Doctor in Doctor Who and maybe 58 in his final story. While Richard Hurndall was about 72 or 73 when he played him in the 20th anniversary story The Five Doctors and David Bradley was 75 in the 12th Doctor's (Peter Capaldi) two final episodes The Doctor Falls and Twice Upon a Time. Here are images of 55 year old actors, 58, 72-73 and 75. And the cause of the First Doctor's regeneration was old age. 86.130.4.167 (talk) 18:38, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Can people die if they've become old, weak and worn out in their 50s? And did the original Doctor look about mid-50s, 60s or 70s? 86.130.4.167 (talk) 19:26, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank You!

took your advice and downloaded the app to tablet, from your link and bang. restored my saved icon. many thanks naughton1237 Naughton1237 (talk) 10:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Sort nowrap

Template:Sort nowrap has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. 2406:3003:2077:1E60:C998:20C6:8CCF:5730 (talk) 16:02, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks!

Appreciate your input! I was trying to figure out how to delete them and you handled it for me!

Do you think I'm ready to ask for a review?

～～～～ TexasEditor1 (talk) 03:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Vandalism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/35.143.190.63[ User:35.143.190.63 continuous and excessive vandalism. User adds biological name "summer Gwen" to every edit. Please BLOCK NOW!!!. Uricdivine (talk) 23:36, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Template:Div col/doc#Redirects

Hi, since you seem to have sound knowledge of this kind of issue, I venture asking you whether you deem this revert by Jonesey95 justified, as now there is again only surplus whitespace rendered at Template:Div col/doc#Redirects instead of transclusions of those template links (unlike the ones above for Div col, which are actually displayed correctly). Hildeoc (talk) 18:39, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

@Hildeoc: Template:Div col/doc is used as documentation at both Template:Div col#Redirects and Template:Div col end#Redirects. The code was designed to only show redirects for the viewed template. That seems sensible but with a little more code it's possible to show both on the doc page itself. I have done that.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 19:21, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Oh, thank you so, so much! I knew you would come up with the solution I was seeking. You're great. Best wishes--Hildeoc (talk) 20:24, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

PS: So there's no workaround to the whitespace rendered for the invisible transclusion to the template as such?--Hildeoc (talk) 20:29, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

@Hildeoc: A little whitespace in the doc part of a template page isn't a big issue but OK, I fiddled with the code.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:38, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a lot once more – and sorry for bothering, but those programming issues are just beyond my skills. All the best, Hildeoc (talk) 23:23, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	For your User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js tool. Makes it so much easier to give links to new articles. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 18:14, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 18:30, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Request for a 3rd Opinion

Hello, I have had rather poor interactions with an editor on the following article; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_data_recovery_companies

The user and I had a brief conversation on my IP page before I created my account; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:173.160.59.125

As the guidelines suggest, I attempted to reach resolution, but the editor refuses to engage in any productive discussion and simply reverts any edit to the page, without contributing to the Talk page I started to help resolve this dispute.

While I understand that Wikipedia is not an advertising platform, we are not attempting to do any form of advertising. I am simply trying to add our company to a list in which it belongs - and I've read through the guidelines quite thoroughly to ensure there is no breach, and believe we are right to be included in the list. A 3rd opinion would be greatly appreciated to help settle the matter, as I am concerned this is becoming an edit war, and I have no interest in such activity.

Thank you, Davoguha (talk) 16:11, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

@Davoguha: We have a process for this: Wikipedia:Third opinion. Note that it requires a brief neutral description of the dispute. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, PrimeHunter - I opted not to add to that section, as it requests that a situation be thoroughly discussed on a talk page before making a request. I noted another page mentioned to "avoid the drama" by reaching out directly to an admin. Unfortunately, the editor in question has refused to contribute to the talk page, and simply responds to anything I do by calling it "spam", and claiming I am breaking rules - and has expressed no interest in resolution, simply proclaiming themselves "right". Primarily, the point of debate is whether or not a company can/should be added to a list page, without their own Wiki article existing - and if they can/should, then how it should be added to said list (Externally linked? No linking?). I appreciate your time, thank you. Davoguha (talk) 21:33, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

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Tracking categories considered harmful

Here you say that A tracking category needs a good reason. I agree. Do you know of a consensus on that matter that I can cite? I'm interested in getting rid of certain categories which slow down page rendering and have outlived their usefulness, but the changes may prove contentious. Certes (talk) 19:14, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

@Certes: I don't know a consensus or discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:11, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I do a ton of work with tracking cats, and I have never seen such a discussion. Changes typically need to be discussed one by one on the templates' talk pages. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:04, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 10:23, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Huminity

.‌من ی نویسنده م. میتونم‌بنویسم. ب زیبایی هر چ تمام تر 83.121.70.108 (talk) 00:55, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

تفاوت انسان ها را در شعور شان دیدم و چقدر سخت شد، در میان این همه شباهت تفاوتی را پیدا کرد 83.121.70.108 (talk) 00:55, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

I don't know Arabic and a Google translation is not meaningful. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:58, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Rankings

I apologize if this is an old discussion and that is because it is. Back in 2006 I thought I put an end to the argument that there was no source material. I provided FIFA published rankings for the 1930-2002 World Cups yet people are still deleting the tables under WP:NOR. CONCACAF has also published rankings in the past. Libro0 (talk) 01:55, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

@Libro0: Please link the edit or page where you think something was deleted incorrectly, and your source for that page, not for other pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:01, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for fixing all those talk pages where I had entered a maxarchivesize that was excessive. Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/him] 20:57, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Nobel Prize

Hi. There has been no serious discussion on the talk page suggesting or hinting that the Prize in Economics should be in the infobox. Repeated reverts by accounts- without a word of commentary, which do not engage in discussion or the talk page- those do not deserve any more than a quick use of the undo button just as they are doing to my edits. My edit was careful and thoughtful and preserved the relationship of the Prize in Economics prominently in the head of the article. If people are interested in that prize, they are welcome to read about it. But it is "Not a Nobel Prize", and editors repeatedly removing that comment from the article are doing a disservice and encouraging the spread of misinformation.

Is there a wikipedia policy to preserve factually incorrect claims and WP:WEASEL words as the status quo until some sort of consensus process happens on the Talk page? I am not a wikipedia expert but it seems that there is no "preserve the status quo, even if it clearly goes against cited references from primary sources", but maybe I am incorrect. 128.237.82.18 (talk) 15:22, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

These are your own opinions. Wikipedia operates by reliable sources and consensus. A single editor doesn't have the power to control an article and permanently remove anything they personally consider incorrect witohut being able to convince other editors of the article. See Wikipedia:Dispute resolution for your options which do not include to keep reverting everybody else. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:50, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Template:List of plant genus names with etymologies TOC

Were you going to do something with {{List of plant genus names with etymologies TOC}}? It looks like a decent replacement for the long TOC that is in each article now. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:02, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: I was unhappy with some details and didn't know how to handle is. Perfect is the enemy of good. I will return to it soon and at least make it a decent replacement. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:12, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

I sympathize with that. I would normally TFD an unused template, but it's pretty new, and I thought I would ask first. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:10, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

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Daniel Treccia

Hi, would you be able to help with this? YoPienso (talk) 01:29, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Duplicate redirects

Can you look at Catherine Institute for Daughters Of The Nobility and Catherine Institute for Daughters Of The Nobility. They look identical, but are not. There some hidden character in the "Of" in the first one. Microsoft Word detects it as a misspelling. I was going to CSD it, but that would probably be too confusing. Can you just delete it. Thanks. MB 02:53, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Research Institute of Clinical and Experimental Lymрhology is another to delete. The target is the corrected version. It looks like these are coming from User:Mykhal/Articles with name in multiple scripts. I don't see any problem with the majority of these that have a visual difference. But these two are very confusing. MB 03:06, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

@MB: Your first two links are identical and only have normal letters. I found the bad name Сatherine Institute for Daughters Of The Nobility. It starts with Es (Cyrillic) instead of latin C. That's the only issue, "Of" is normal. Research Institute of Clinical and Experimental Lymрhology has Er (Cyrillic) instead of Latin p in the last word. I have deleted the redirects per G6 although it's a stretch. R3 doesn't apply when they were left by moves. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:44, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Scale height

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Alignd

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I sent you an e-mail

{{You've got mail}} Thank you for your help! Justin Namen (talk) 05:45, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the second e-mail. I made the proper correction. Thanks again. Justin Namen (talk) 07:16, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you

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Thanks! --✠ Emperor of Byzantium ✠ (talk) 22:02, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 23:11, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Link pokedex entries

Where was the consensus for this? This seems like an inappropriate use of external links in my opinion. Could you possibly explain why you're doing this? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 02:18, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf: I did it boldly without prior discussion. We normally don't make external links in the body of articles but it's often different when a whole list is based on the same official source which has a page about each entry. See e.g. National Register of Historic Places listings in Houston Heights, Houston, Texas#Current listings (there are thousands of such lists), List of chess grandmasters#Grandmasters, List of MeSH codes (D02) (around 2500 links on this page alone), 2022 FIFA World Cup#Group stage ("Report" link for every match), List of minor planets: 14001–15000 (whole "Ref" column is external links). The Pokedex links work both as references and additional information, e.g. an image of the Pokemon. I think they are helpful to both readers and editors, and I don't think readers will be surprised by where they go. It would be possible to make inline references instead but it would just create around 100 nearly identical references per list and an extra step to reach the target from the tables. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:37, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Template:Formatted link

I was poking around some and stumbled across Template:Formatted link (and related discussion), created by you a few years ago, and thought you might be interested in a similar Template:Autolink that I've been working on off-and-on for some years now (no promises on its module's code quality; I am not a programmer :D ). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{☎ Dinoguy1000} 15:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Greetings and [lengthy] reply (Peninsular War timeline)

Greetings PrimeHunter! Thank you for your message and thank you, especially, for taking the time to remove all the pesky "small talk". I only added those because the last column needs to contain longer text (whole sentences/paragraphs) and it appeared the same width as the column with the dates. I'm sure there is a much better way of fixing it (column width parameters or summat?), but I'm not at all technically minded, so the small text it seemed a simple option, if time-consuming...

I hope to be able to answer all your questions in one go, not necessarily in chronological order, but if I leave something out, please don't hesitate to get back to me on it...

As I mentioned in my edit summary for the split, the page just seemed to be getting way too unwieldy —even for someone (yours truly) who knows, at least in theory, where everything is— and I was concerned that any reader coming to it cold would just find it too cumbersome. That said, the point you make about closely connected info being spread out over two pages did worry me* but in debating the split —with myself**— I reckoned that anyone who was sufficiently interested in the subject matter would also be willing to follow the whole chain of events, as well as going off on the inevitable tangents that them there marvellous wikilinks afford us.

* Indeed, I'm beginning to think that I was being too optimist in splitting it into just the two pages, because, in answer to that question, yes! I do have in mind a "huge expansion"...
** No, I did not discuss it anywhere because I wasn't really sure where to do so; the corresponding talk page didn't seem to be the right place 'cos there ain't nothin' happening there... And as the whole thing really was getting too unwieldy for me to edit —even though I'm fortunate to use a device with fully updated software, etc.— I figured it would be better to simply split the content into rough periods of time.

Regarding the extension, I sort of based my rationale on Wikipedia:Article size (in particular, WP:SIZERULE and, to a lesser extent —no pun intended— eventual technical issues, WP:CHOKING).

I did consider adding a year index and year rows like the ones in the example you provided, but that format only permits sorting within each section, which defeats the object of searching for sortable content on the whole page —something I consider essential, ie sorting by Spanish, French, British, Anglo-Portuguese victories, etc. (at least those on the same page/year range).

Regarding your suggestion of undoing the split, obviously if it's your considered opinion that that would be preferable, I would bow to your superior technical knowledge. I have no intention of making a stand on this issue. And I fully agree that it would be prefereable to have all the content on one single page/in one single, sortable table. Would it be possible to undo it with your admin buttons without losing all the content I've added since the split?

BTW, as you point out, Special:LongPages has hundreds of lists above 300 kB. But I took that as more of a "notice to mariners" (NTM or NOTMAR) kind of thing, rather than a best-practices guideline...

Sorry for the lengthy response, but I hope all of the above, or at least some of it, goes to explain where I'm coming from... Regards, --Technopat (talk) 00:50, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. It's way too technical for me to take in in one sitting, so I'll try to reply later today. However, if your edit summary is a summary, in layperson's terms, of what you mean, I really have no objection. BTW, just for the record, am currently using a laptop, although I do have two large screen desktops for use in my real life... (Have never bothered trying to read Wp articles on a smartphone, so no idea what it looks like, but a list of that size must be...). Regards, --Technopat (talk) 02:16, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Greetings again, PrimeHunter.

Having gone over what you commented, think I understand it better now. When I referred to the system you recommend not being sortable as a whole it was because of all those empty rows in that carrier table (which take up more than a whole screen when clicking on "Navy"!). Am I correct in understanding from what you say that you can write code to prevent that happening (or is it a necessary evil of sortable tables of that length)?

BTW, when I asked you about whether it would be possible to undo the split "without losing all the content I've added", I wasn't thinking of attribution at all (at least not for me), merely the amount of content that I'd added since the split. When I first started editing at Wp I thought the whole idea of having a username was childish (I still do, but...) and that the true spirit of the project meant editing anonymously as an IP, which I did, intensively, for a couple of years, until a couple of old-timer admins convinced me that it would be more useful to the project as a whole if I registered as a user (eventually leading to rollback rights, etc., which in those days had to be requested).

So, the bottom line is that I have no objection to you organising the sortable table in the best interest of users. Thanks for taking the time to sort out anything I have/may have messed up and hope I don't take up too much of your time as I add more content to that timeline. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 08:41, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Greetings again! Thanks for undoing the split, and all the re-formatting of the table list.Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 08:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

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Supreme Court

Thank you again for fixing that straightforwardly. I just saw you're Danish – what a great country! I have recently come to like it more and more (just finished a Lego order ...) So I send my best wishes to Denmark. Warm regards, Hildeoc (talk) 18:58, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:World Championships in Athletics category header

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Imagemap American conservatives

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Thank you

I couldn't reply in the standard way (page is partially protected), so I'll tell you here: Your response re Notifications was very helpful and educational, and I thank you for it. Bholtgren (talk) 17:33, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Barnstar

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Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 20:05, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Alignd column

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Thanks for the scripts!

Thank you for the scripts linked and created for Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_205#Template-generated_categories_vs._bot_process! These are already proving helpful. Editors are unendingly inventive, though, e.g. pasting inline links cut from URLs and so including underscores in place of spaces. It would be cool if a script could handle that alternative at the same time… but if that's not doable, never mind! – Fayenatic London 20:24, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

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Problem with adding information to article about Kristin Harila

Hi, I have added new information about Kristin Harila (in section "Controversies") based on very good and reliable sources: The New York Post, Deutsche Welle, Independent.co.uk, globalnews.ca, dailymail.co.uk, skynews.com.au:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristin_Harila#Controversies

Unfortunately user called "Szelma W" removed the content I added because: "Your edit is not neutral" - as of Szelma W wrote. I added information about two different topics - Szelma W deleted both (like both were not neutral). I tried to use help from administrator Zzuuzz:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz#Kristin_Harila

Zzuuzz wrote me about reaching consensus and advise: "You probably don't need to do anything" - which I do not understand. During the discussion with Zzuuzz Szelma W described me as follow: "has very limited knowledge about the accident on K2". I do not think I can reach consensus with Szelma W especially that she easily dismiss other opinions (and does not even have her own userpage where we could freely talk). I think Szelma W removes and censors content on Wikipedia based on her subjective criteria and hope that I could find administrator who could find a solution here. Could you please help me with this issue or direct me to someone who could do it? Regards. Bluffer8 (talk) 23:44, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Sourcing and notability on lists of Pokémon by generation (e.g., List of generation I Pokémon

Hello PrimeHunter,

The lists of Pokémon by generation articles contain a large volume of information in the 'notes' column which appears to not be sourced and/or below the threshold for notability due to being detailed in-universe information.

I have opened a discussion in the teahouse before making any changes to avoid edit wars and agree on the appropriate actions for these articles. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#Notes_in_the_lists_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_generation_(e.g.,_List_of_generation_I_Pok%C3%A9mon) [which will likely be included in archive 1198 if this link is no longer active].

As you are one of the people who has contributed strongly to these articles over the years (see https://xtools.wmcloud.org/authorship/en.wikipedia.org/List_of_generation_I_Pok%C3%A9mon , https://xtools.wmcloud.org/authorship/en.wikipedia.org/List_of_generation_II_Pok%C3%A9mon , etc. which list you amongst the top authors of these pages' content), I want to keep you informed so that there is a consensus for any significant changes to these page moving forwards.

Best regards, Shazback (talk) 16:37, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Mixbook logo.svg

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Mersenne prime

The part of the Mersenne prime article starting with the following sentence

"All Mersenne numbers with the prime exponents not only primes pass the Fermat primality test for a = 2"

is own work of Mr. Matt Kalinski (possibly the Wikipedia user with the Mattedia nick). It is not confirmed by any other RS.

Is it allowed to add this kind of edits to the Wikipedia?

Regards Szelma W (talk) 11:06, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 20:13, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:List of plant genus names with etymologies TOC

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Hananya Naftali article draft

Dear@PrimeHunter,

I wish you do help me in expanding the article Hananya Naftali and consequently move it to mainspace. I will be delighted to see you there soon. Thanks! Olivia Harry (talk) 09:35, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@Olivia Harry: I'm not going to work on the draft but will explain "Interviews are not independent sources, subject will need to pass the criteria at WP:GNG" in [3]. It means that the interview is not good to help show whether the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia biography by satisfying our notability criteria. It doesn't mean it's disallowed to use the source. It loks like a good source for content and there was no reason to remove it. Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria says: "Primary sources may be used to support content in an article, but they do not contribute toward proving the notability of a subject." PrimeHunter (talk) 13:58, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Are you implying that I should put the interview source back? I am still new here. Olivia Harry (talk) 17:38, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@Olivia Harry: Yes, just put it back. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:40, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for being helpful Olivia Harry (talk) 17:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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Without bold

On the Verdicchio and Montepulciano (grape) pages, how can I distinguish "the wines for which Verdicchio must account for a majority of the blend" without using bold type? JackkBrown (talk) 12:24, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: I don't know wine but the most common Wikipedia symbols to mark certain entries are asterisk and dagger. I suggest {{dagger}} but {{number sign}} at Template:Dagger#Accessible symbols could also be used since it's number-related. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:56, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: how do I use these templates? Never seen them. JackkBrown (talk) 13:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: They are usually placed right after the marked content without a space, like Verdicchio dei Castelli di Jesi DOC† (Marche). It's a little hard to spot in long lines so if the property is important then you could also consider the start of the line. I would add a space there. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:25, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Five years!

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your revert was right

yeah no that was almost certainly a bug and I didn't mean to edit list of municipal corporations in india in the way that I guess I did. Whoops! anyways thanks for fixing it! Gaismagorm (talk) 10:40, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

from now on I'll make sure that my edits don't break everything. Gaismagorm (talk) 10:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

A quiet thanks...

Thank you for helping me resolve the Technical Village Pump Issue, I greatly appreciate it! Iovecodeabc (talk) 01:54, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

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awarded to PrimeHunter for helping me out

thank you... Cassopeia ...talk?... 01:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

A goat for you!

Thank you so much for helping me!

GamrrOverDue (talk) 20:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 20:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Link

Hi, I commented at VPT again, can you remove the part of your comment with the captcha causing link? It's causing edits to the page to be captcha'd.
I tested by nowiki-ing your link (and commenting, and subsequently self-reverting), and also tested it in the sandbox - those links definitely cause other edits to the page to trigger a captcha (for whatever user right level captchas are triggered for anyways). – 2804:F14:80B2:ED01:9054:EE22:6D09:F464 (talk) 11:28, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. – 2804:F14:80B2:ED01:9054:EE22:6D09:F464 (talk) 11:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Italic string changes

Why are you making changes of this sort: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:30_Rock_season_7_episodes&diff=next&oldid=1216853221 ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:57, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@Koavf: I was clearing Category:Pages with disallowed DISPLAYTITLE modifications of around 380 categories with invalid {{DISPLAYTITLE:}}. It incorrectly said "(season 7)" before so 30 Rock was not italicized in the displayed page name at top of the page. Now it is. For many other shows I fixed many seasons and could use the same {{italic title|string=...}} on all seasons. I found this approach easier than fiddling with the specific DISPLAYTITLE on every page, and {{italic title|string=...}} may keep working if a page is moved again. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Gotcha. Thanks for that. Is there any other driver to use the template rather than the magic word other than personal preference? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@Koavf: {{italic title|string=...}} often keeps working after a page move while {{DISPLAYTITLE:}} always breaks and many page movers are unaware of DISPLAYTITLE issues. And some people start by copy-pasting code from an existing similar page when creating a new page but fail to change DISPLAYTITLE. A copy-pasted {{italic title|string=...}} from another article about the same work will usually keep working correctly. I never change a working {{DISPLAYTITLE:}} but if it's broken then I often use {{italic title|string=...}} to fix it. The string= option was added on my request and I find it quite useful after fixing thousands of pages in Category:Pages with disallowed DISPLAYTITLE modifications. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

That’s some brain-thinkin’. Seems like this would be a handy fix at other WMF wikis. I appreciate you educating me. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:27, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

css help

Hi, this hack .new {color: #BA0000;} doesn't work anymore. Do you know how can i fix it? Currently this problem exist on Template:Main from mobile view. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 14:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

@আফতাবুজ্জামান: a:link.new {color: #BA0000 !important;}. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Source links

Thanks for your Source links script. I've been using it for a while, but noticed that it doesn't work for templates and modules, and can miss articles outside of the main namespace if capitalization after the namespace prefix is different. I made some tweaks to it at User:Ahecht/sandbox/Scripts/Source links.js that you can feel free to steal. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:10, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

@Ahecht: I will think about it and come back to you. My script works as I intended by searching for links and ignoring calls. I see your idea but would like to keep a link search for templates. Maybe add a second link "source calls" on templates and modules? I think your script needs \\#invoke instead \#invoke. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter Ahh, good point about links to templates. I'll probably spin off the transclusion part into a separate module. I would suggest at least adding the mwTitle.namespace > 0 portion to catch additional capitalizations. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 01:47, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 13:58, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Script

Hi, I've added User:PrimeHunter/My_subpages.js to my common.js, purged etc, can't see anything new. Have I missed something? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:37, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@Jimfbleak: Your code is right. What is your skin? In Vector 2022 the "Subpages" link is added to the user menu on the user icon at the top right. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

I've changed to Vector 2022, was on legacy, still can't see subpages Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@Jimfbleak: In legacy it's in the line of links at top of the page. Does it appear if you preview User:Jimfbleak/common.js without any other scripts? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@Jimfbleak: User:Jimfbleak/common.js has an unpaired });. Do any of those scripts run? Try removing it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks, I removed a script I don't have any use for recently, and i guess I missed a bit of code, all good Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

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Calculator rounding

We just built the rounding functionality here[4] and just need to bring it over to EN WP. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:06, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Requested at User_talk:Xaosflux#Updating Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:09, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

I can always ask

Do you have access to Jyllands-Posten? I'm after the text of [5] For Armen Adamjan. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: I don't have access. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Htwiki infobox problem

I'm following up on Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 211#Haitian Creole infobox problem.

Yesterday, w:ht: Kategori:Paj ak lyen fichye kase had about a dozen pages in it. The count had been pretty stable for weeks. Sometimes I'd clean one up. This morning, there are 67 pages in the cat.

One of the new ones is w:ht:Vilhelm Bjerknes, which is d:Q164389. The article has been associated with the Wikidata item since it was created in November 2012. The current image in the Wikidata item has been there since February 2021. The article hasn't been edited since March 2013. I therefore conclude that the problem isn't in the content.

The infobox template was changed today. Could you take a look at that and see if there's anything obviously wrong? It's not protected, so if you see an obvious error, feel free to fix it. I'm hoping that fixing the template will resolve both the old problems and the new one. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:14, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

@WhatamIdoing: imaj and lejand are assigned twice in [6] by Kitanago. Template parameters should never be assigned twice. The second assignment overrides the first, also if the second is empty and the first was non-empty. If the intention was to make it optional whether to use |imaj= or |foto= in calls then the correct code is |imaj = {{{imaj|{{{foto|}}}}}}. Similar for |lejand = {{{lejand|{{{tèks|}}}}}}. A separate problem is that ht:Vilhelm Bjerknes has the code |foto=Bjerknes,Vilhelm 1934 London.jpg. The new template version tries to use foto which was ignored before, but the file doesn't exist. Remove the code or change it to an existing file. I examined other pages in ht:Kategori:Paj ak lyen fichye kase. Many of them have a non-existing file in |foto=. I don't know the history behind that but the template could also go back to ignoring foto so the non-existing files don't matter. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:12, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Like so? WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:16, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, if the goal is to make the parameter names interchangeable in calls. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:57, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's the goal. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

I have another question. I want to have a template, e.g., {{MEDRS evaluation|evidence=review|human=yes|date=2018}} that allows:

• evidence: for a given list of four or five keywords, return result X; for a given list of 20 keywords, return result Y; for unknown, return the unknown result; if empty, be silent.
• human: for any true value (y, yes, Y, T, true, 1 – whatever the usual options are), return result X; for any usual false value, return result Y; if empty, be silent.
• date: If the year given, compared to {{CURRENTYEAR}}, is 5 or less years old, then return result X; if it is 5–10 years old, return result Y; if it is >10 years old, complain; if it is empty, then nag.

I have been looking through templates trying to find examples of these, and everything's been turned into Lua modules or is part of a multi-template scheme (or both, e.g., infoboxes), so I haven't found any good examples of what I'd like to do. I also haven't found anything in the help pages that says, very simply, "Here's the code if {{{parameter1}}} is ____, and you want it to return this different thing". Can you think of any models I can follow? (See User:WhatamIdoing/MEDRS evaluation for my notes.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

@WhatamIdoing: I don't know Haitian Creole and haven't examined which templates and modules are available but you can use parser functions directly. See mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##if for testing for empty, mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##ifeq for testing for a single value, mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##switch for multiple values, and mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##ifexpr for your year calculations. You could also make a version of Template:Yesno and maybe add Haitian Creole words for yes/no (if they are different from English). PrimeHunter (talk)

This one is for purely local use. (Htwiki is not advanced enough to have even an ordinary WP:RS page, much less something as specialized as MEDRS.) I spent a while in mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions earlier today. I couldn't even figure out which function I needed to focus on. I'll go play with switch for a while. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

I made a huge amount of progress on Template:MEDRS evaluation thanks to your pointer. I still need to figure out the date calculations, but everything else is looking pretty good. Thank you! ✨ WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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Some baklava for you!

Thank you for your help. Goodtiming8871 (talk) 14:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

I learned from your suggestion. Goodtiming8871 (talk) 14:28, 4 November 2024 (UTC)