Template talk:Did you know/Approved
This page holds approved nominations that are waiting to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page. Following DYK approval, nominations are processed and moved into a Prep area, and from there, prep sets are promoted to a queue, and then to the main page.
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Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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September 9 | 2 | 1 |
September 11 | 2 | |
September 12 | 1 | |
September 13 | 1 | |
September 15 | 1 | 1 |
September 16 | 2 | |
September 18 | 1 | |
September 19 | 1 | 1 |
September 20 | 1 | |
September 22 | 1 | 1 |
September 23 | 2 | 1 |
September 24 | 3 | 2 |
September 25 | 1 | 1 |
September 26 | 2 | |
September 27 | 2 | |
September 28 | 2 | |
September 30 | 3 | 3 |
October 2 | 1 | |
October 3 | 2 | |
October 4 | 3 | 1 |
October 5 | 4 | 1 |
October 6 | 2 | |
October 7 | 4 | 1 |
October 8 | 3 | 1 |
October 9 | 9 | 6 |
October 10 | 3 | |
October 11 | 4 | 1 |
October 12 | 5 | 4 |
October 13 | 10 | 2 |
October 14 | 4 | 3 |
October 15 | 7 | 1 |
October 16 | 8 | 4 |
October 17 | 8 | 6 |
October 18 | 9 | 3 |
October 19 | 9 | 6 |
October 20 | 6 | 3 |
October 21 | 4 | 3 |
October 22 | 18 | 9 |
October 23 | 9 | 4 |
October 24 | 5 | 2 |
October 25 | 11 | 8 |
October 26 | 8 | 2 |
October 27 | 8 | 5 |
October 28 | 11 | 5 |
October 29 | 8 | 4 |
October 30 | 10 | 5 |
October 31 | 12 | 4 |
November 1 | 12 | 5 |
November 2 | 9 | 2 |
November 3 | 17 | 8 |
November 4 | 8 | 3 |
November 5 | 13 | 5 |
November 6 | 6 | 1 |
November 7 | 8 | |
November 8 | 3 | |
November 9 | ||
Total | 309 | 129 |
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[edit]If you can't find the nomination you submitted to the nominations page, and it also isn't on this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is either in one of the prep areas, has been promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.
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Instructions for other editors
[edit]How to promote an accepted hook
[edit]- See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
- In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
- In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
- In the prep set...
- Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
- Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
- Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
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- Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted original hook to Prep 3", preview, and save
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
[edit]- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to the nominations page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from the nominations page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
Nominations
[edit]Special occasion holding area
[edit]- Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section on the regular nominations page, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began, or it was listed as a Good Article; be sure to indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
- Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made between at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: [1]; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: [2].
- April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
- Note for promoters: please be sure to add an "invisible" comment after a hook when you've placed it in prep, noting that it's a special occasion hook and including the date it is supposed to run. This should keep the hook from being moved after promotion, as sometimes happens to hooks when a queue needs a slot filled or a prep set needs to be made more balanced by swapping hooks between preps.
November 10 (Remembrance Sunday)
[edit]November 11 (Remembrance Day)
[edit]November 27 (birthday)
[edit]Rei Nakashima
- ... that anime singer Rei Nakashima was named after Ray Charles? Source: [3] ("“怜”という名前も、レイ・チャールズ好きな母がつけたもので。")
- ALT1: ... that Rei Nakashima thought she had failed her music audition, only to discover that she had won over a thousand other applicants? Source: 1. Same as above, ("私、落ちると思っていたんです(苦笑)。オリジナル曲のギター弾き語りの時には緊張しすぎてストロークがガタガタに……その次に「愛・おぼえていますか」(映画『超時空要塞マクロス 愛・おぼえていますか』主題歌)を歌ったときは、緊張が一気に消えて、極度のリラックス状態になって、歌詞を噛んでしまったんですね。そこで思わず笑ってしまって。サビ前になんとか挽回したのですが、「絶対に落ちたな」と。だからびっくりしすぎて「合格ってもしかして別の意味があるのかも……?」と調べたくらいで。")
2. [4] (1,000通を超える応募者の中からグランプリには愛知県出身の中島 怜(なかしまれい)さん、特別賞には埼玉県出身の大渕野々花(おおぶちののか)さんが選ばれました。) - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jurong East MRT station
- Comment: I would like to request that this run on November 27th, which is her 20th birthday.
- ALT1: ... that Rei Nakashima thought she had failed her music audition, only to discover that she had won over a thousand other applicants? Source: 1. Same as above, ("私、落ちると思っていたんです(苦笑)。オリジナル曲のギター弾き語りの時には緊張しすぎてストロークがガタガタに……その次に「愛・おぼえていますか」(映画『超時空要塞マクロス 愛・おぼえていますか』主題歌)を歌ったときは、緊張が一気に消えて、極度のリラックス状態になって、歌詞を噛んでしまったんですね。そこで思わず笑ってしまって。サビ前になんとか挽回したのですが、「絶対に落ちたな」と。だからびっくりしすぎて「合格ってもしかして別の意味があるのかも……?」と調べたくらいで。")
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:32, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Reviewing this per request at WT:DYK. Minor quibble - the source says over 1,000 applicants, whereas our article uses a thousand as a fixed number. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Article is new enough, long enough, and neutral. AGF on foreign-language sources for paraphrasing. No image to review. Preference is for ALT0/original, though both are supported. I agree that holding it for her birthday makes sense. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:53, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Thanks for the review! I guess this can be moved now? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe so? This is my first special occasion hook since coming back, so I don't know what current practice is. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hooks approved for special occasions go into the holding area at WP:DYKNA. Maybe Z1720 knows how to explain it better. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah. I didn't remember that being the reviewer. Will do. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hooks approved for special occasions go into the holding area at WP:DYKNA. Maybe Z1720 knows how to explain it better. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Thanks for the review! I guess this can be moved now? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Approved nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on September 9
[edit]Alison Creagh
- ... that Alison Creagh (pictured) became a Member of the Order of Australia "for significant service to veterans and their families, and to rowing"? Source: https://www.gg.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-07/QB20%20Gazette%20-%20O%20of%20A%20V6.pdf
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
- Comment (not a review). The COI banner on the article (with circumstances detailed on the article talk page) needs to be resolved before this can feature in DYK. Cleanup banners are not intended as a permanent mark of shame for articles, but rather to indicate that something can and should be cleaned up. The question then becomes: do the circumstances described on the talk page mean that there is a COI that should be cleaned up? What must be done to the article to clean it up so this banner can be removed? —David Eppstein (talk) 00:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- WP:WTRMT:
neutrality-related templates such as {{COI}} (associated with the conflict of interest guideline) or {{POV}} (associated with the neutral point of view policy) strongly recommend that the tagging editor initiate a discussion (generally on the article's talk page) to support the placement of the tag. If the tagging editor failed to do so, or the discussion is dormant, and there is no other support for the template, it can be removed.
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)- Do you dispute the COI? Or should I have placed a "paid editor" tag instead? This DYK should siomply be closed, as we shouldn't have such "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" promotion. To quote from a question (not from me) from your 2019 RfA: "In one of the arbitration cases which resulted in a finding against you, there was a finding involving an undisclosed conflict-of-interest that resulted in serious subversion of the FA process. " We here have the same editor with an undisclosed COI at DYK. Here you start wikiwlawyering about the tag (even though I started a discussion about it on the talk page right away, where you haven't responded). Fram (talk) 07:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- There was no such finding, and there was no undisclosed COI. What there is is an editor pursuing a pattern of harassment that got them blocked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Are you really claiming that you have no COI wrt this article now? Or that the finding (passed 10 to 0) that " Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs) has a previously undisclosed conflict of interest [...]" didn't exist? Or both? Fram (talk) 10:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- There was no undisclosed conflict of interest. I have never edited for pay. I was an unpaid Wikipedian in Residence with Paralympics Australia. I have only met the brigadier twice: at the Boccia, where the Chef de Mission introduced us and we talked about our work at Paris 2024, and at the Rowing three days later, when I asked for a photograph, which I took and is used in the article. Please cease the personal attacks on myself and David Eppstein, who was only posting a comment. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- An organisation offers you all kind of help so you can write better or more articles about an event they are heavily involved in, and you then write an article about the CEO of that organisation. How is that not a blatant COI? And I have not made any personal attacks about you, and I haven't made any comment whatsoever about David Eppstein, so I have no idea where you see any personal attacks on them. Anyway, I'll raise this at the COIN board. Fram (talk) 18:30, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- There was no undisclosed conflict of interest. I have never edited for pay. I was an unpaid Wikipedian in Residence with Paralympics Australia. I have only met the brigadier twice: at the Boccia, where the Chef de Mission introduced us and we talked about our work at Paris 2024, and at the Rowing three days later, when I asked for a photograph, which I took and is used in the article. Please cease the personal attacks on myself and David Eppstein, who was only posting a comment. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Are you really claiming that you have no COI wrt this article now? Or that the finding (passed 10 to 0) that " Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs) has a previously undisclosed conflict of interest [...]" didn't exist? Or both? Fram (talk) 10:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- There was no such finding, and there was no undisclosed COI. What there is is an editor pursuing a pattern of harassment that got them blocked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Do you dispute the COI? Or should I have placed a "paid editor" tag instead? This DYK should siomply be closed, as we shouldn't have such "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" promotion. To quote from a question (not from me) from your 2019 RfA: "In one of the arbitration cases which resulted in a finding against you, there was a finding involving an undisclosed conflict-of-interest that resulted in serious subversion of the FA process. " We here have the same editor with an undisclosed COI at DYK. Here you start wikiwlawyering about the tag (even though I started a discussion about it on the talk page right away, where you haven't responded). Fram (talk) 07:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- WP:WTRMT:
- Without getting into whether or not this should run, WP:DYKTAG explicitly allows articles with COI tags.--Launchballer 23:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- For context, reviewers should be aware of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Alison Creagh.--Launchballer 04:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Hawkeye7: This is currently the oldest fully unreviewed nomination and PEIS is exceeded at T:TDYK, so I'm reviewing. Long enough, new enough. QPQ is valid, though you should take more care to place comments above the closing }}. Not that it was ever an issue per my comment above, but I've removed the COI tag anyway per the talk page. Earwig gobs off about names and WP:LIMITED but having investigated I see no issue with that or anything that might disqualify this here. The hook is short enough, cited, and interesting; while I would invite you to use a secondary source instead, the Honours List itself should be fine and googling around I see a bunch of RSs that have it anyway. Let's roll. Also, commiserations on your RfA - please don't let that discourage you from queuing.--Launchballer 13:34, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- For context, reviewers should be aware of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Alison Creagh.--Launchballer 04:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure this strictly violates any particular DYK policy, but I don't think this article should be promoted. The article is basically a proselist of positions she's held and when and where, like a resume. Looking at the sources, I'm pretty troubled by the spread here. I see Australian government sources for her getting an award from the Australian government, a couple of "about us" webpages, proselist sources of dubious reliability, and an interview. The Australian War Memorial source is the only one to actually do a real profile of Creagh, and it's a newsblog. If someone else wants to promote this, feel free, but I wanted to note my queasiness. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:02, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 15
[edit]Nathania Ong
- ... that Nathania Ong had not even seen the musical when she was offered the role of Éponine in Les Misérables?
KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 13:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC).
- More of a comment than a review, but while I do think the hook is marginally interesting, I imagine theater actors being offered roles in plays they'd never seen before is actually not uncommon. As such, I wonder if additional hook angles could be proposed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: that's a reasonable point, though this was what I deemed to be the most interesting "factoid" in the article. And even if it really were the case (that this is "actually not uncommon"), how many times have such hooks appeared on DYK? It sure can't beat the river-related hooks of yesteryear 😆 KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 14:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Well, if no one else is going to....
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - Hook does not seem to be supported by source. Ong had not seen Les Mis before auditioning, but was told to go home and watch the film, audition again, and then she was offered the role.
- Interesting:
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Needs a new hook. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 20:54, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- How about:
- ALT1 ... that Nathania Ong had not seen Les Misérables before auditioning for the role of Éponine? (will need to be reflected in the article)
- ALT2 ... that Singaporean theatre actress Nathania Ong's father was an acapella singer and a dentist? (might not meet WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE, but I'm not really seeing much else in the article that's usable)
- ALT3 ... that Nathania Ong led the singing of Singapore's national anthem during the closing ceremony of the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics?
- Not sure if any of these are usable, however. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:17, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce and Darth Stabro: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:34, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 sounds good to me, have amended. Thanks! KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 03:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 approved! ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 14:38, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 sounds good to me, have amended. Thanks! KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 03:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce and Darth Stabro: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:34, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 19
[edit]Chauncey Archiquette
- ... that Chauncey Archiquette was Jim Thorpe's idol?
- Source: Path Lit by Lightning: The Life of Jim Thorpe (Thorpe said "[Archiquette] was my football idol and in our scrub games with the homemade football I always tried to emulate him") / Carlisle Vs. Army ("[Thorpe] was particularly taken with the team's star runner, an Indian boy named Chauncey Archiquette ... One day, Thorpe told himself, I'm going to be as tough as Chauncey ... [Thorpe, after watching practice] raced back and forth over the empty field, zigging here, zagging there, trying to emulate his idol.")
BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC).
- @BeanieFan11: Although Thorpe was a highly accomplished and iconic athlete of his era, I'm not actually sure if most Americans today know who he is or at least recognize his name (speaking as a non-American). In addition, I don't know if Thorpe is a name that is known internationally. As such, the hook as currently written may not be broadly interesting enough to meet WP:DYKINT. Additional hook suggestions are probably needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:04, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I considered this when making the nomination, but Thorpe is one of the most famous athletes of all time. Books are written about him nearly every year and we still have articles from the past few months such as "Thorpe was and still is the greatest athlete in the history of sports" / "On this day in history, May 28, 1888, Jim Thorpe, 'greatest athlete in the world,' is born" – I would be very surprised if the vast majority of people don't recognize his name. I feel like it may lose some of its 'punch', but if really necessary, we could say something like ALT1 ... that Chauncey Archiquette was the idol of Jim Thorpe, regarded as one of the greatest athletes in history? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll probably have to cite WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE here:
don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject
. And for what it's worth, I made a bit of an informal survey about this on Discord, and the three editors who responded said they didn't know who Thorpe is. Note that my thoughts about the hook are independent of the survey; in fact, I made the survey because I wanted to know if American editors might find the hook interesting and to check my own thoughts. As for the nomination itself, the safest option here is probably to try a completely different angle. While ALT1 is arguably a better option, as you said, it loses some of the punch with the additional context. Thorpe is no Lionel Messi or Michael Jordan to warrant the angle, methinks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)- I'm rather stunned at the idea that Thorpe isn't well known enough. I don't really see any other good options with the article as well. Would changing the hook so that it does not mention Thorpe, but still has that aspect, work? – I.e. something like ALT2 ... that the "greatest athlete in the world" was inspired by Chauncey Archiquette? (I'd need to add the quote to the article, but Thorpe has widely been called that.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's a better hook, but I'm not sure if it will pass scrutiny. DYK usually wants quotes in quote hooks to be attributed whenever possible, but adding an attribution to the hook would probably weaken the article's punch. It might be a good idea to seek opinions from other editors who are experts on wordsmithing like RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, or Launchballer. In any case, I'd suggest dropping any hook that directly mentions Jim Thorpe per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and either having only ALT2 for consideration for now, or trying a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I also have never heard of Jim Thorpe, although that may be because I know little about sports in general. I quite like ALT3: ... that tacklers "bounced off" Chauncey Archiquette "as if he were a brick wall"?.--Launchballer 15:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- That works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:49, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I also have never heard of Jim Thorpe, although that may be because I know little about sports in general. I quite like ALT3: ... that tacklers "bounced off" Chauncey Archiquette "as if he were a brick wall"?.--Launchballer 15:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's a better hook, but I'm not sure if it will pass scrutiny. DYK usually wants quotes in quote hooks to be attributed whenever possible, but adding an attribution to the hook would probably weaken the article's punch. It might be a good idea to seek opinions from other editors who are experts on wordsmithing like RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, or Launchballer. In any case, I'd suggest dropping any hook that directly mentions Jim Thorpe per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and either having only ALT2 for consideration for now, or trying a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm rather stunned at the idea that Thorpe isn't well known enough. I don't really see any other good options with the article as well. Would changing the hook so that it does not mention Thorpe, but still has that aspect, work? – I.e. something like ALT2 ... that the "greatest athlete in the world" was inspired by Chauncey Archiquette? (I'd need to add the quote to the article, but Thorpe has widely been called that.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll probably have to cite WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE here:
- Full review needed now that hook discussion has taken place. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:44, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi BeanieFan11. This article created on the 18 September (and promoted to GA since) is long enough, new enough, well-sourced, neutral, and copyvio free. The article is presentable. The QPQ has been done. I'll admit, I (non-American) was not familiar with Jim Thorpe before this DYK, so I prefer ALT3. However, I don't love ALT3, because it seems like similar things have been said about a lot of American footballers. Perhaps it is worth making people click through to see who Jim Thorpe is in order to have an interesting hook? All hooks are cited and I've verified the citations. Good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 21:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm also not wild about ALT3, both on attribution and interestingness, but I wouldn't object to someone else promoting it. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 03:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 22
[edit]Barquq Castle
- ... that the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret of Barquq Castle in the Gaza Strip were still standing until 2024?
- Source: Abu Khalaf 1983, p. 182: "Nowadays the Khan is almost demolished, but the front part, which consists of the fac;ade including the gateway and the Mosque with its minaret still stands."
Onceinawhile (talk) 00:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Onceinawhile: Please note that per a recent rule change, a QPQ must be provided at the time of the nomination or at most immediately after. The nomination may be failed without further warning if a QPQ is not provided as soon as possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I have done the QPQ now. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed now the QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
article is long enough, new enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is complete. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile:@Gonzo fan2007: This hook implies that all of these things (the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret) are no longer standing as of 2024. However, it doesn't necessarily say that in the article, just that the site was vaguely "damaged". If we know to what extent, and if we know that all those things are indeed no longer standing, then this hook is fine, that just needs to be mentioned sourced in the article. If not the hook may need to be tweaked somewhat to reflect the fact we don't know what parts are standing or not. Kimikel (talk) 14:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 23
[edit]Korzeniacy, czyli Jesień wsamrazków
- ... that a modern Polish fairy tale, written during the time of martial law in Poland in the 1980s, mixes the themes of real-world environmental protection and fantasy-like gnomes? Source: Kowalczykówna (1989) cited in the article
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: New enough, long enough. Hook fact is interesting and cited in the article - AGF on offline Polish sources. No online sources to check for paraphrasing except a Polish book only available in snippet view, so AGF there. Good to go. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:54, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 24
[edit]Sankar Montoute
- ... that Sankar Montoute was the first NFL player from Trinidad and Tobago?
- Source: PFR
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jamaludin Malik (legislator)
- Comment: Will do QPQ within next 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC).
- interesting hook. However the cited reference does not explicitly state that Sankar Montoute is the first player from Trinidad and Tobago in NFL. There are names of 5 other players from Trinidad and Tobago in this list. Cited source may be updated Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyana guru: Row five in the hook source has the dates when each of the five players started their careers. As the source states, Montoute debuted in 1987, which is earlier than the others, who played later (Curvin Richards 1991, Kerry Carter 2003, Anthony Herrera 2005, Yannik Cudjoe-Virgil 2015). BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11:: You are right. Agreed. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 11:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyana guru: Row five in the hook source has the dates when each of the five players started their careers. As the source states, Montoute debuted in 1987, which is earlier than the others, who played later (Curvin Richards 1991, Kerry Carter 2003, Anthony Herrera 2005, Yannik Cudjoe-Virgil 2015). BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyana guru: What else needs to be done to approve this hook? If it is ready, are you able to approve this? Z1720 (talk) 23:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- * The article is long enough and well sourced. The hook is verifiable against the reference provided. Most of the references provided in this article are paywalled. But considering that this article is a Good articles/Sports and recreation, these can be accepted in good faith. The article has been recently substantially expanded. The article has recently undergone a successful GA Review and awarded Good Article status. The hook is interesting and article seems good enough for DYK. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 05:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Tick mark suitably modified Sarvagyana guru (talk) 08:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- * The article is long enough and well sourced. The hook is verifiable against the reference provided. Most of the references provided in this article are paywalled. But considering that this article is a Good articles/Sports and recreation, these can be accepted in good faith. The article has been recently substantially expanded. The article has recently undergone a successful GA Review and awarded Good Article status. The hook is interesting and article seems good enough for DYK. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 05:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
@BeanieFan11 and Sarvagyana guru: gonna quickly suggest:
- ALT1: ... that Sankar Montoute became the first NFL player from Trinidad and Tobago in 1987?
theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:34, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- What's the need of specifying 1987? BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Meh. i thought it'd be more interesting if they joined later rather than earlier, and 1987 seems fairly late to me. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
How You Get the Girl
- ... that the choreography of this Taylor Swift song, performed during the 1989 World Tour resembles that from the 1952 musical Singin' in the Rain?
- Reviewed:
brachy08 (chat here lol) 09:37, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is well balanced, sourced and written from a neutral point of view. It is new enough, as it has been moved from draftspace within the last 7 days and the earwig tool found no signs of copyright violation or plagiarism. The hooks are interesting enough and the sources provided are reliable. Well done, Wolverine XI (talk to me) 10:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- personally, i feel that the original hook is suitable (because of the image) also bc i have less than 5 dyk noms, qpq doesn't really apply to me (yet) brachy08 (chat here lol) 10:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then you should probably remove the second hook. Wolverine XI (talk to me) 10:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
removed brachy08 (chat here lol) 11:14, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Brachy0008 and Wolverine XI:, I can't find where the sources verify that the choreography was inspired by Singin' in the Rain—while the Independent says "there is a mass “Singing in the Rain”-style choreographed dance sequence to “How to Get the Girl”", which isn't quite the same thing. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:39, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- tweaked. @AirshipJungleman29: brachy08 (chat here lol) 00:45, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think "styled from" makes sense. The best you can do at present is something like "that one reviewer said the choreography is like Singin' in the Rain". You don't have a quote from anyone who actually knows about what the inspirations were. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:54, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- tweaked again. how does it look? @AirshipJungleman29: brachy08 (chat here lol) 00:56, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Have your concerns been resolved? If so, is this ready to approve? Z1720 (talk) 23:13, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- ...probably? I think a copyedit might be needed, as in ALT0b: ... that the choreography of How You Get the Girl during the 1989 World Tour resembled the 1952 musical Singin' in the Rain? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:38, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- I mean, that's really just the thought of one reviewer, so it should be attributed. But "Reviewer thinks choreography of one song is like one musical" doesn't make for a great hook. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:35, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- ...probably? I think a copyedit might be needed, as in ALT0b: ... that the choreography of How You Get the Girl during the 1989 World Tour resembled the 1952 musical Singin' in the Rain? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:38, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Have your concerns been resolved? If so, is this ready to approve? Z1720 (talk) 23:13, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- tweaked. @AirshipJungleman29: brachy08 (chat here lol) 00:45, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 25
[edit]Kazimierz Sakowicz
- ... that Polish journalist and resistance member Kazimierz Sakowicz spent three years recording the murder of tens of thousands in his diary, which was published decades later? Source: Margolis (2005), or Wilczewski (2009), or Guesnet (2003)
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC).
- Article is interesting and the hook is captivating and not too baity. I removed the picture of Sakowicz, because it clearly isn't him and the picture isn't from 1939.Marcelus (talk) 11:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed covering all the DYK criteria. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Piotrus. This interesting article, 5x expanded between the 25-26 September, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and copyvio free. QPQ done. Hook is interesting and short enough, as well as backed up by citations and article. I have made some edits to the article and have replaced "death" with "murder" in the hook, to make it clear that he was recording a massacre. Good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 19:59, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 30
[edit]Roger Farmer (American football)
... that Roger Farmer was the first NFL player from Barbados?
- Source: PFR
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Celie Ellis Turner
- Comment: QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- Starting review. Updates to follow. Ktin (talk) 15:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria. Recently promoted to GA status. No issues with tone / neutrality nor with plagiarism. Hook is reasonably attractive. Sourced to a NFL record sheet / database. At some point I thought DYK frowned upon hooks like "the first x from y". But, I am not able to find that discussion. Nevertheless, I am happy to mark this hook approved. That said, if the nominator wants to attempt a different hook, I am available for a review. Handing this back to the nominator. QPQ done. Ktin (talk) 15:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- This hook fails the interestingness check in my view. Someone is going to be the first NFL player from Barbados, and so all this is really telling me is that it's a guy named Roger Farmer; there's zero element of surprise. Sdkb talk 04:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Will see if I can come up with an alt hook tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:18, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Could do something like:
ALT1 ... that Roger Farmer was among the first two NFL players to come from his high school, to come from his college, and to come from his country?(refs 14/15/16) BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)- Might be me, but, this is hard to follow as a statement and I personally don't think it is adding to the 'interestingness'. Ktin (talk) 04:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- There have also been several of these "first NFL player from X" hooks proposed lately. Given the recent pushback against "first" hooks, it might be safer to go with a completely different angle here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin, Narutolovehinata5, and Sdkb: Maybe something like
ALT2 ... that Roger Farmer made the NFL despite playing in college for small schools that mainly had "terrible records"?("he went to Eastern Arizona, which had terrible records both years he was there ... In 1976 ... he came to Baker along with several Arizona recruits from junior colleges ... While Farmer started, Baker had a terrible 1976 record") BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)- Yup, that works. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:24, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: There are two things that I am not comfortable with -- 1. What is a "small school"? There is no objective agreed definition and I do not think we should send that phrase to the homepage. 2. Though I see your attempt to add terrible records within double quotes, it still comes across as WP:WIKIVOICE and imo that phrase should not go to the homepage. Ktin (talk) 04:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin: Would the angle be more acceptable if the quote was attributed rather than being in Wikivoice? Something like:
ALT3 ... that Roger Farmer reached the NFL despite playing for schools that the Salina Journal described as having "terrible records"?ALT3a ... that Roger Farmer, the first NFL player from Barbados, reached the league despite playing for schools that the Salina Journal described as having "terrible records"?
- Other than that, if more information could be found about his personal life and post-NFL career, maybe a new hook based on that could be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:01, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestions, Narutolovehinata5. While definitely an improvement from the prior ones, I am not convinced that this one is good to go to the homepage. We will run afoul of WP:UNDUE if we go by the opinion of this single journal. Our own article on Salina Journal is a stub and does not indicate (at least on first read) why this journal is should be considered an authority on this topic. If a different uninvolved reviewer wants to chime in and pick this up, I will not stand in the way. Ktin (talk) 03:34, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Why not ALT4 ... that Roger Farmer, the first NFL player from Barbados, reached the league despite playing for schools that a newspaper described as having "terrible records"? /
ALT5 ... that Roger Farmer, the first NFL player from Barbados, reached the league despite playing for low-level schools that a newspaper described as having "terrible records"?(as for 'low-level', he played for Eastern Arizona (about sixth-tier of college football) and Baker (NAIA D-II, which was fifth tier)) – as for the Salina Journal, I don't know why we wouldn't trust the local newspaper for the local sports teams it covers? BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:53, 9 November 2024 (UTC)- Let's go with ALT4. Striking other hooks to improve readability. Ktin (talk) 05:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Why not ALT4 ... that Roger Farmer, the first NFL player from Barbados, reached the league despite playing for schools that a newspaper described as having "terrible records"? /
- Thanks for the suggestions, Narutolovehinata5. While definitely an improvement from the prior ones, I am not convinced that this one is good to go to the homepage. We will run afoul of WP:UNDUE if we go by the opinion of this single journal. Our own article on Salina Journal is a stub and does not indicate (at least on first read) why this journal is should be considered an authority on this topic. If a different uninvolved reviewer wants to chime in and pick this up, I will not stand in the way. Ktin (talk) 03:34, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin: Would the angle be more acceptable if the quote was attributed rather than being in Wikivoice? Something like:
- @Ktin, Narutolovehinata5, and Sdkb: Maybe something like
- There have also been several of these "first NFL player from X" hooks proposed lately. Given the recent pushback against "first" hooks, it might be safer to go with a completely different angle here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Might be me, but, this is hard to follow as a statement and I personally don't think it is adding to the 'interestingness'. Ktin (talk) 04:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Could do something like:
- Will see if I can come up with an alt hook tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:18, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Wasswa Serwanga
- ... that Wasswa Serwanga and his twin brother were the first two NFL players from Uganda?
- Source: PFR
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Society for Crypto-Judaic Studies
- Comment: Could expand his twin brother's article (Kato Serwanga) to add to the hook if needed. Might also work to have a hook on the aspect of his wealthy father narrowly surviving an attempted murder from Idi Amin and selling his possessions in exchange for a plane ticket to bring Wasswa to the U.S. (not sure how it'd be best worded though...). Also, the QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:15, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi @BeanieFan11: This article, which was promoted to good article status on the 30 September, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, BLP-neutral, copyvio free, and presentable. I think the citation you've provided is a bit close to WP:OR for comfort. Could you replace it with this WaPo article or this ChimpReports article? Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 12:09, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421: Added in the WaPo article. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:19, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- QPQ done. Interesting hook. Good to go. Tenpop421 (talk) 22:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421: Added in the WaPo article. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:19, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Malik Arslan
- ... that Malik Arslan, a Dulkadirid ruler in southern Anatolia, was assassinated on the orders of the Mamluk Sultan Sayf al-Din Khushqadam due to his ties with the Ottomans?
- Source: * Har-El, Shai (1995). Struggle for Domination in the Middle East: The Ottoman-Mamluk War, 1485-91. E.J. Brill. p. 86. ISBN 9004101802. OCLC 624096003. Retrieved 19 March 2023.
- Venzke, Margaret L. (2017). "Dulkadir". In Fleet, Kate; Krämer, Gudrun; Matringe, Denis; Nawas, John; Rowson, Everett (eds.). Encyclopaedia of Islam (3rd ed.). Brill Online. doi:10.1163/1573-3912_ei3_COM_27743. ISSN 1873-9830.
- Yinanç, Refet (1989). Dulkadir Beyliği (in Turkish). Ankara: Turkish Historical Society Press. p. 61. ISBN 9751601711. OCLC 21676736.
- Reviewed:
Aintabli (talk) 16:15, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- I will review this. Thriley (talk) 21:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not needed as nominator has 5 or less nominations. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 16:46, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 4
[edit]Maria Muntañola Cvetković
... that Maria Muntañola Cvetković was once said to be the only mycologist to be a professor of mycology?Source: Que nosaltres sapiguem, és l’única micòloga que hagi ostentat el títol de professor de Micologia (a Espanya, tots els micòlegs acadèmics som professors de botànica, de microbiologia, de fitopatologia o de dermatologia)./As far as we know, she is the only mycologist who has held the title of professor of Mycology (in Spain, all academic mycologists are professors of botany, microbiology, phytopathology or dermatology).- ALT1: ... that after fleeing to Argentina as a Spanish Civil War refugee, Maria Muntañola Cvetković became one of Yugoslavia's first microfungi experts? Source: Degut a les condicions cada vegada més precàries durant la Guerra Civil, la seva família es traslladà a Buenos Aires, Argentina ... on Maria Muntañola acabà els seus estudis de Secundària./Due to increasingly precarious conditions during the [Spanish] Civil War, her family moved to Buenos Aires, Argentina ... where Maria Muntañola finished her High School studies.
ALT2: ... that after being born in Spain and educated in Argentina, Maria Muntañola Cvetković became one of Yugoslavia's first microfungi experts?Source: the doyen of Yugoslav and Serbian mycology, Prof. Dr. Maria Muntañola Cvetković ... born in Barcelona in 1923, and later moved with her family to Argentina ... she was one of the first mycologists in Yugoslavia that studied microfungi- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/June Franklin
- Comment: ALT0 was the toughest one to work with, given that Richard P. Korf was also professor of mycology 1961-1992, but I still found it intriguing enough to have nonetheless.
ミラP@Miraclepine 19:32, 10 October 2024 (UTC).
- @Miraclepine: New and long enough, within policy, Earwig finds no copyvios, QPQ done, approving ALT1 as most interesting after verifying hook fact. Good to go! John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 23:47, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine and John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): The source doesn't quite say that they fled because of the war. In fact, per the source, the family only fled after the war ended? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:56, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: This source says his father left after the war but it's ambiguous when the rest of them did so since his mother had already left before he did, while ALT1's source says that the family left for Argentina "due to increasingly precarious conditions during the Civil War". So while things are unclear about the timing on Maria's end, the reasoning IMO is more clear. Would that be enough for brevity (hooks should be concise), or should I change it so that it's due to the living conditions in the war? ミラP@Miraclepine 17:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine and John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): The source doesn't quite say that they fled because of the war. In fact, per the source, the family only fled after the war ended? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:56, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Even if someone left shortly after the formal conclusion of a war as a result of that war, I'd say it is still reasonable to call them a refugee of that war. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 23:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Echoes of Life Tour
- ... that the Echoes of Life Tour, a tour of solo ice shows in Japan by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu, opens on his 30th birthday on December 7, 2024?
- Source: Hanyu Yuzuru to unveil 'Echoes of Life' show on 30th birthday (Olympics.com)
- Reviewed:
Henni147 (talk) 04:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC). Alright, I'm going to attempt reviewing this. First review for me, so it'll take a bit of time. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: 3.8% at earwig, not too sure about hookinterest. Will need a second opinion. Pinging User:Sky Harbor. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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@Narutolovehinata5: True, didn't think of the promotional aspect. There is one more idea for a hook:
This hook is supported by the source above and this one by the Japan Times newspaper: "The Tokyo handover segment of the Rio 2016 closing ceremony balanced cool imagery, references galore and meme-worthy moments. That team included musician Sheena Ringo and choreographer Mikiko Mizuno [...]" Henni147 (talk) 11:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
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@AlphaBetaGamma: Oh okay, so the "that" at the beginning is not included in the count. Does this adjustment work?
- ALT3 (shortened): "... that the Echoes of Life Tour by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu is directed by Mikiko who was also involved in the choreography of the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?"
- Sources: Hanyu Yuzuru to unveil 'Echoes of Life' show on 30th birthday (Olympics.com) and The Olympic opening ceremony that wasn't (The Japan Times).
This hook should have 195 characters now, but better check as well to be sure. Henni147 (talk) 07:25, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's 195 characters. Guess that's a wrap? ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 09:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @AlphaBetaGamma and Narutolovehinata5: Thank you very much for checking the hook and taking on this review in general. I hope, all issues have been fixed now. I wonder if the review template at the top needs to be updated to conclude the review? I'm not familiar with the system. Henni147 (talk) 10:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Henni147 and AlphaBetaGamma: I'm not sure I find the hook too enticing. Like, the fact that the performer and director were both in/at the Olympics is cool, but not the kind of thing that would make someone likely to read the full article. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @AlphaBetaGamma and Narutolovehinata5: Thank you very much for checking the hook and taking on this review in general. I hope, all issues have been fixed now. I wonder if the review template at the top needs to be updated to conclude the review? I'm not familiar with the system. Henni147 (talk) 10:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 5
[edit]Neknampur Lake
- ... that Neknampur Lake restoration "has been recognised as a role model in the 'watershed development' category along with four other projects" in India?
- ALT1: ... that the restoration of Neknampur Lake was recognised "as the best model of lake restoration in India"? Source: * [5] [6] [7]
- Reviewed:
Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:05, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article seems good enough for DYK (all content referenced, hook is neutral enough - citing attributed praise), copyvio spotcheck at 20% seems good (green), long enough, new enough. QPQ is needed, please ping me when it is done. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:11, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
@Piotrus:
I think I had reviewed three nominations (as per best of my understanding). These are
- Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Sankar_Montoute
- Template:Did you know nominations/Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone
- Template:Did you know nominations/It's OK I'm OK
Note to Sarvagyana guru and Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus: the QPQ reviews provided do not appear to be complete DYK reviews, covering all the basic DYK criteria such as newness, length, neutrality, free of copyvio, hook cited and interesting, and so on. In particular, Sankar Montoute and It's OK I'm OK only discuss the hook, and Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone only mentions length and "well-sourced" in its approval, which is not adequate. I have also adjusted both hooks to change the italics into quote marks; I also discovered that the article failed to properly identify the actual quotes for those hooks, which is technically a copyvio, so I have adjusted it accordingly. This meant adjusting the quotes to cover more material. (In once case, two apostrophes together were used in the article rather than the double-quote character, causing italics there rather than visible " marks at the beginning and end of the quote.) Piotrus, I think a more careful review of the quoted material is in order, given what I just found. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:44, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: I see, thank you. I confirmed before and double checked now that the quoted terms for the hook(s), i.e. 'watershed development' and 'best model' appear in sourced cited, so the article seems fine, once the QPQ reviews are done (well, a single one will suffice to pass this, but it would be good to fix the others, which @Sarvagyana guru: can then use as fuel for two more DYKs :) PS. Sarvagyana guru, please WP:PING me when you reply here to me, otherwise I may not see your message. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: As per the feedback received, review of DYK for Sankar Montoute done. Review of It's OK I'm OK and Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone will also be attempted as per given suggestions. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: I think the QPQ for the Sankar Montoute is ok now? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Piotrus, the new review seems to cover what's needed, though I haven't checked the details. (Minor quibble: if sources are being accepted AGF because they can't be checked online, then the tick should be the gray {{DYKtickAGF}} rather than the regular green ({{DYKtick}}, but it's a common error made by reviewers of all experience levels.) BlueMoonset (talk) 16:31, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Per above - GTG. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Piotrus, the new review seems to cover what's needed, though I haven't checked the details. (Minor quibble: if sources are being accepted AGF because they can't be checked online, then the tick should be the gray {{DYKtickAGF}} rather than the regular green ({{DYKtick}}, but it's a common error made by reviewers of all experience levels.) BlueMoonset (talk) 16:31, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: I think the QPQ for the Sankar Montoute is ok now? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: As per the feedback received, review of DYK for Sankar Montoute done. Review of It's OK I'm OK and Hugh O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone will also be attempted as per given suggestions. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Neknampur Lake Restoration Gets NITI Aayog Recognition".
- ^ "Rejuvenated Neknampur lake wins Niti Aayog laurels".
- ^ "Neknampur lake gets Niti Aayog's recognition".
- ^ "Once a dumpyard, this Hyderabad lake is now a hub for eco-friendly events".
- ^ "Neknampur lake: Private entity's sustainable restoration earns recognition from CSE".
- ^ "Neknampur lake garners accolades for restoration".
- ^ "Restoration of Neknampur Lake receives praise".
Hermance Edan
- ... that the board game that would become Stratego was designed by a 57-year-old woman with no previous professional game design experience?
- Source: French Patent office, Brevet n° 396.795
- ALT1: ... that little is known of Hermance Edan before she patented her first board game in 1908, at the age of 57? Source: French Patent office, Brevet n° 396.795
- ALT2: ... that L'Attaque, the board game that became Stratego, was patented in 1908 by its designer, a 57-year-old woman? Source: French Patent office, Brevet n° 396.795 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farrest (talk • contribs) 05:06, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: I translated this article from the French, so the references in the article may need some work, but Edan's age at the time of her patent seems well-attested. Thanks for your consideration!
Farrest (talk) 20:41, 5 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article is long, new, and presentable enough, and as well-cited as a figure this obscure can be. The hook cites a reliable source and is quite interesting, as "board game designer" was an extremely rare profession in 1908, and dramatically more so for a single 57-year-old woman. I might like it if the hook included both game names, though — perhaps "... that L'Attaque, the board game that became Stratego, was patented in 1908 by a 57-year-old woman?" Personman (talk) 04:21, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- I like this wording, and I've added it above as "Alt2". Thanks! Farrest (talk) 05:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Some citations are needed in the article Farrest. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, AirshipJungleman29. I've found and added attributions for the two "citation needed" sentences that the original French version had left uncited – the variant games and her record of death. Farrest (talk) 05:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Some citations are needed in the article Farrest. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- I like this wording, and I've added it above as "Alt2". Thanks! Farrest (talk) 05:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
How about this reworking?
- ALT0a: ... that Hermance Edan designed the board game that would become Stratego without any professional game development experience?
theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 7
[edit]Sequenza XIV
- ... that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio, in 2002 the last work in a series begun in 1958, was inspired by the artistry of Rohan de Saram including traditional Kandyan drumming? Source: [5]
- Reviewed:
to come - Comment: This is one of the key works of 21st-century classical music.
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Overall: Hi Gerda Arendt, happy to do the DYK review. The article has a readable prose size of 4310 characters. It was created yesterday. Every paragraph in the body of the article is sourced. WP:EARWIG shows no copyright problems. QPQ has not yet been done. I have a minor quibble about the hook: it seems to me that it tries to convey too many individual facts. What about something simpler like
ALT1: ...that Sequenza XIV was composed in 2002 as Luciano Berio's final work in his series begun in 1958?
or
- ALT2: ...that Sequenza XIV, composed for Rohan de Saram in 2002, is Luciano Berio's final work in his series begun in 1958? Phlsph7 (talk) 16:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing, and the suggestions. I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Mind. I believe that the one thing fascinating "Maestro Berio" (as he is called by the cellist) as well as the ordinary Main page reader is this drumming. We can rather do without the series if it's really too much. I can also imagine to improve the series article to make it a double hook. ALT1 is no option for me because some kind of reverence for the cellist (and drummer) was the motivation to write the article. Making him GA seemed harder ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ah I see. If we want to go without the series, we could use something like
- ALT3: ...that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio was inspired by the childhood experiences of cellist Rohan de Saram with Kandyan drumming?
- But I think your original suggestion also meets the DYK requirements so the decision may be more a matter of taste. Approved. Phlsph7(talk) 07:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I think that ALT3 is a bit smallish, - the childhood drumming is just part of the inspiration, the playing of one of the most inspiring cellists of all times should not be left out completely ;) - I learned of his death from a friend who is a cellist, and felt his enthusiasm remembering a live concert of Xenakis. Berio knew why he added to a series that had already been considered complete ("complete" recording in 1995), - it's an outstanding piece in every respect and deserves a little longer hook, imho. We can't use any of the pics, sadly, because de Saram's is not free, and Berio's is way too young for one of his last works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- One last alternative if we want to go for the full package: what do you think about the following, a version of ALT0 copy-edited only for better flow:
- ALT0a: ... that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio, completed in 2002 as the last work in a series begun in 1958, was inspired by Rohan de Saram's artistry, including traditional Kandyan drumming?
- Phlsph7 (talk) 10:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- I like it --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I think that ALT3 is a bit smallish, - the childhood drumming is just part of the inspiration, the playing of one of the most inspiring cellists of all times should not be left out completely ;) - I learned of his death from a friend who is a cellist, and felt his enthusiasm remembering a live concert of Xenakis. Berio knew why he added to a series that had already been considered complete ("complete" recording in 1995), - it's an outstanding piece in every respect and deserves a little longer hook, imho. We can't use any of the pics, sadly, because de Saram's is not free, and Berio's is way too young for one of his last works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing, and the suggestions. I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Mind. I believe that the one thing fascinating "Maestro Berio" (as he is called by the cellist) as well as the ordinary Main page reader is this drumming. We can rather do without the series if it's really too much. I can also imagine to improve the series article to make it a double hook. ALT1 is no option for me because some kind of reverence for the cellist (and drummer) was the motivation to write the article. Making him GA seemed harder ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
I don't think the hooks here would be very enticing to the average reader, but I won't object if someone else wants to promote it. Just noting a bit of queasiness. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Someone runs a series from 1958 to 2002, and you think that's not "enticing"? We have no room for that the series had been deemed complete in 1995, but someone made an exception. Someone plays cello and Indian drum, and you think that's not unusual? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think the part about completing a series started over 40 years earlier should be interesting to the average reader. Phlsph7 (talk) 09:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 8
[edit]Johann Friedrich Hartknoch
- ... that Johann Friedrich Hartknoch published the first edition of Immanuel Kant's Critique of Pure Reason (pictured)? Source: Most accessibly and in English here
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/History of education in Wales (1701–1870)
- Comment: Will do QPQ asap
Yakikaki (talk) 21:42, 8 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Yakikaki, review follows: article created on 8 October and exceeds minimum length; sources are cited inline throughout; sources look to be reliable; I didn't pick up any overly close paraphrasing from the English-language sources; hook fact is interesting, stated in the article and checks out to source cited and elsewhere (and the image of the book itself!); image is good and well out of copyright. Just awaiting a QPQ, I think - Dumelow (talk) 06:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- All good - Dumelow (talk) 13:01, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 9
[edit]Church of the East in Sichuan
... that the ruins of the East Syriac church Pearl Temple are the subject of Du Fu's poem "The Stone Shoots: A Ballad"?
- Source: Duan, Yuming (1993). "云南景教考" [A Study on East Syriac Christianity in Yunnan]. Journal of Yunnan Nationalities University (Social Sciences Edition). p. 59; Enoki, Kazuo (1947). "成都の石筍と大秦寺" [Bamboo-shoot-like Menhir in Chêng-tu and Nestorian Church]. Journal of the Research Department of the Toyo Bunko. pp. 108–109.
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Uriel1022 (talk) 13:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi @Uriel1022: this article, more than 5x expanded on the 9 October, is long enough, new enough, well-sourced, and copyvio-free. QPQ does not need to be done. Unfortunately, now that an article for Pearl Temple exists, I'd say that this hook probably belongs to that article and not this one. Some ALTs suggested themselves while reading this interesting article:
- ALT1: ... that a 9th-century opthalmologist is evidence for the presence of the Church of the East in Sichuan.
- ALT2: ... that a Chinese poet wrote about a Syriac church in Sichuan without knowing what it was?
- Please let me know whether you have any other hooks in mind. Once you've given your input, I think this article is good to go. Tenpop421 (talk)
- Hi Tenpop421. Thank you for taking time to review the article. I'm glad you enjoyed it :) Your hooks are perfect, my vote goes to ALT2. Uriel1022 (talk) 21:29, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Brilliant. Whoever promotes this has their choice of hook. Good to go. Tenpop421 (talk) 21:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Tenpop421. Thank you for taking time to review the article. I'm glad you enjoyed it :) Your hooks are perfect, my vote goes to ALT2. Uriel1022 (talk) 21:29, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites (song)
- ... that "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" is a mosquito repellent?
- Source: "Dubstep artist Skrillex could protect against mosquito bites". BBC. 1 April 2019. Archived from the original on 18 July 2023. Retrieved 1 April 2019.
- ALT1: ... that "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" protects against dengue fever? Source: "Dubstep artist Skrillex could protect against mosquito bites". BBC. 1 April 2019. Archived from the original on 18 July 2023. Retrieved 1 April 2019.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Get the Hell Out
- Comment: My attempts at quirky hooks.
Skyshiftertalk 14:13, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
- Might I suggest ALT2:
- ... that mosquitoes are scared by Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites? Di (they-them) (talk) 02:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): this is a very good one that I support! Skyshiftertalk 03:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- ... that mosquitoes are scared by Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites? Di (they-them) (talk) 02:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyshifter: Please provide a QPQ as the nomination is liable to be closed without further warning if one isn't provided during or immediately after the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:58, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I thought one could be provided in a week. In that case, I will provide it in a day maximum. Skyshiftertalk 03:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyshifter: The rules recently changed per a WT:DYK discussion as part of an anti-backlog campaign and to prevent QPQ-less nominations from languishing without a QPQ indefinitely. Now, a QPQ must be given when or shortly after the nomination is created, and a nomination without a QPQ may be closed without warning if none is provided immediately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I thought one could be provided in a week. In that case, I will provide it in a day maximum. Skyshiftertalk 03:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyshifter: Please provide a QPQ as the nomination is liable to be closed without further warning if one isn't provided during or immediately after the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:58, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I want to ask that if/when this hook is approved, it be set for October 31 to go with the Halloween set (Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Halloween set). Di (they-them) (talk) 03:23, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): I support this! Skyshiftertalk 01:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Since Halloween has passed without this running, this still needs a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:09, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'll take this review. Expect it to be done within 24 hours. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 23:17, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Huge preference for ALT2 - thanks @Di :) The hook is mentioned in the article and cited to RS (incl. the study itself). Sources are reliable enough for the topic area and the GAN level; spotchecked ref 1, 7, 11, 16, and 26, managing to see no problems. However, Ref 5 does not support the description of the song's key and tempo, though this isn't really a dealbreaker.
This is good to go @Skyshifter, but I suggest finding another citation for the key/tempo. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 23:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC) Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 23:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @PSA: thanks! Key and tempo is in the Beatport source. Dazed is ref 6. Skyshiftertalk 00:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyshifter and PSA: The BBC source seems like pretty crappy science journalism; it's making MEDRS claims like "you can avoid mosquito bites by playing Skrillex" that aren't really what the study says. Could it just be sourced to the study instead? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- theleekycauldron: yes, it definitely should go. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 08:47, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyshifter and PSA: The BBC source seems like pretty crappy science journalism; it's making MEDRS claims like "you can avoid mosquito bites by playing Skrillex" that aren't really what the study says. Could it just be sourced to the study instead? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Veiqia
- ... that when young Fijian women reached puberty, their hips were tattooed with veiqia (pictured)? Source: "In nineteenth-century Fiji, when a girl reached puberty, she was tattooed in a secluded enclosure by a daubati (female specialist)." https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv18kc0px.19 & for hips, see " following account of tatuing (veinggia) is brief and incomplete partly because it is a custom restricted to the female sex and then confined to that portion of the body surrounding the pudendurn muliebre and adjacent areas which are covered by the short fringe skirt (liku)" https://www.jstor.org/stable/2790097
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Baguia Fort
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QPQ is forthcoming, but didn't want to forget to nominate this articleQPQ done
Lajmmoore (talk) 20:55, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
- Recent GA. Article is well-referenced throughout with no copyvio detected. Hook is interesting and referenced. Image confirmed to be PD. Good to go with the QPQ done. Juxlos (talk) 06:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Helmut Bauer (bishop)
- ... that Helmut Bauer, auxiliary bishop responsible for church music in the Diocese of Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, founded a chapel to Mary (pictured) in his home town? Source: [6]
- Reviewed: Samuel Lander
- Comment: You can see on youtube how parts from Mozart's Requiem were performed for him at his cathedral today (beginning c. 6 min into it).
Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
- Date, length, hook, QPQ, close paraphrase check checks out. Image free on Commons (albeit not great quality). --Soman (talk) 13:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Soman and Gerda Arendt: a couple of things. Firstly, on English terminology: notwithstanding the direct translation of "Feldkapelle", a "chapel" in English is usually a room in a larger building. I would instead call this a "shrine" or similar.Secondly, on WP:DYKINT: perhaps we could trim the bits about his various jobs and focus on the chapel? To me, it is interesting that it is now a hiking destination, or that a ceremony has been held on the same feast day since 1984, the day of its consecration. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- learning English: this is the first time I hear that chapel has a different meaning from Kapelle. We could do nothing, relying on "usually". We could use the original Feldkapelle, which would clarify better that it is in nature (which the image shows - open to the front) but not clearly. "Shrine" tells me that there are some relics, such as those of Hildegard of Bingen in the village church of Eibingen (not the abbey). Wrong? - As for shortening: yes we could stop right after Gotteslob which speaks of responsibility for the common German-language hymnal (for German-language countries that is), far beyond the Würzburg diocese, and far far beyond some little open space in the fields. I only picked it because of the image, and because he loved Mary as well as church music. Yes, there was one piece to Mary sung in the Requiem, but the heavy weight was on Mozart's Requiem. - Just today I remember a 10-years-old hook about Mela Tenenbaum, and am happy that it says something about geography in her life and dedication of music to her, and not just that she played a piece with an unusual instrumentation, or just that she played on Queen Elizabeth 2. Happy also to have mentioned Ukraine in 2014. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, perhaps using the original Feldkapelle would be best. The image is also rather low-quality and probably shouldn't be used. With that in mind, I'm rather struck by his work on confirmations—including the 500 in Tanzania. If he considered that work his prime duty, he'd probably prefer a hook on it—and you get something about geography in his life too. What do you think? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Helmut Bauer, responsible for church music in Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, confirmed around 150,000 young people, including 500 in Tanzania? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ok for ALT1. I'm still also ok with the original hook, a kapelle is a chapel and a feldkapelle is a field chapel. See for example "feldkapelle, or field chapel, a Northern European tradition of building small chapels in rural and agrarian landscapes." ([7]) --Soman (talk) 09:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Helmut Bauer, responsible for church music in Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, confirmed around 150,000 young people, including 500 in Tanzania? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, perhaps using the original Feldkapelle would be best. The image is also rather low-quality and probably shouldn't be used. With that in mind, I'm rather struck by his work on confirmations—including the 500 in Tanzania. If he considered that work his prime duty, he'd probably prefer a hook on it—and you get something about geography in his life too. What do you think? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- learning English: this is the first time I hear that chapel has a different meaning from Kapelle. We could do nothing, relying on "usually". We could use the original Feldkapelle, which would clarify better that it is in nature (which the image shows - open to the front) but not clearly. "Shrine" tells me that there are some relics, such as those of Hildegard of Bingen in the village church of Eibingen (not the abbey). Wrong? - As for shortening: yes we could stop right after Gotteslob which speaks of responsibility for the common German-language hymnal (for German-language countries that is), far beyond the Würzburg diocese, and far far beyond some little open space in the fields. I only picked it because of the image, and because he loved Mary as well as church music. Yes, there was one piece to Mary sung in the Requiem, but the heavy weight was on Mozart's Requiem. - Just today I remember a 10-years-old hook about Mela Tenenbaum, and am happy that it says something about geography in her life and dedication of music to her, and not just that she played a piece with an unusual instrumentation, or just that she played on Queen Elizabeth 2. Happy also to have mentioned Ukraine in 2014. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Michael F. Adams
- ... that Michael F. Adams (pictured) was the first president of Centre College who was not Presbyterian? Source: Weston, Centre College: A Bicentennial History (2019), p.119
- ALT1: ... that during his time as president of the University of Georgia, Michael F. Adams advocated for a playoff championship system for college football, over five years before such a system was implemented? Source: https://www.redandblack.com/sports/after-adams-championships-controversies-and-change-during-years-as-president/article_dca8723c-9741-11e2-bfcd-0019bb30f31a.html
- ALT2: ... that five new colleges were established at the University of Georgia during the administration of President Michael F. Adams (pictured)? Source: https://news.uga.edu/uga-president-adams-announces-plans-to-step-down-next-year/
- ALT3: ... that Michael F. Adams (pictured) was chief of staff to Senate minority leader Howard Baker for three years and later ran for Congress himself? Source: https://sc.centre.edu/ency/a/adams.html; https://clerk.house.gov/member_info/electionInfo/1980election.pdf
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Black Lesbian and Gay Centre
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Overall: Earwig comes up high, but everything seems to be long names of organizations Valereee (talk) 20:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Personally I find ALT1 the most interesting, ALT0 as second choice. Not wild about all the affiliated sources for the hooks, can we find somethng from places he didn't work? Valereee (talk) 20:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't love the photo. It's a crop from another, and it's just awkward. I tried to recrop, but it's not high enough res and doesn't have enough room to come up with a better version. Valereee (talk) 20:26, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, Chislehurst
- ... that Napoleon III was buried in St Mary's Church, Chislehurst, before being moved to Farnborough Abbey 15 years later?
- Source: "The exiled Emperor himself died in 1873 and was buried on 15 January 1873 in St Mary’s ... she transferred the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin in 1888," from Taking Stock, by Historic England.
Cardofk (talk) 08:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Cardofk, review follows: article created 9 October and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources for the subject; I didn't pick up anything I considered overly close to the main source in a check for close paraphrasing; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited; a QPQ has been started. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 11:52, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Cardofk: The source indeed says: "in 1881 the Empress founded St Michael’s Abbey at Farnborough, where she transferred the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin in 1888" but down the bottom it also says: "both the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin were removed by the Empress to Farnborough, Hants., in 1889. There is a memorial to the Prince Imperial on the East wall of the church erected by Monsignor Goddard his friend and tutor on the spot where the Prince’s coffin rested from 1879-89." Do we have another source? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:48, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Hawkeye7: Thank you for catching that, yes I've added another source. The "list description" at the bottom of that source is the original property listing made in the 1970s by Historic England, often done very quickly with little evidence of verifiability. The long text above was done in the 2010s and often corrects the listing by providing more detail. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- For confirmation the reburial took place in January see, for example, this contemporary report from The Tablet of 14 January 1888 - Dumelow (talk) 08:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Hawkeye7: Thank you for catching that, yes I've added another source. The "list description" at the bottom of that source is the original property listing made in the 1970s by Historic England, often done very quickly with little evidence of verifiability. The long text above was done in the 2010s and often corrects the listing by providing more detail. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 11
[edit]Anatolii Brezvin
- ... that Anatolii Brezvin began a program to open 60 ice rinks in Ukraine within five years?
- ALT1: ... that Anatolii Brezvin helped establish a minor ice hockey championship in Ukraine, and sought to open 60 ice rinks? Source: https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2024/wm/static/60880/anatolii_brezvin
- ALT2: ... that Anatolii Brezvin created a women's ice hockey championship in Ukraine, and entered their national team into the IIHF World Women's Championship? Source: https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2024/wm/static/60880/anatolii_brezvin
- Reviewed: Nathaniel Coe and Albert Schädler
- Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.
Flibirigit (talk) 21:52, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing...:
- New enough: yes.
- Long enough: more than long enough (very nice!).
- Adequate sourcing: given that most of the sources are in Ukrainian or Russian, I had to use translation tools to verify that the basic facts of the biography are well-sourced.
- Neutral: yes.
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Not sure if closely translating is considered plagiarism or paraphrasing? I'm inclined to accept this as is.
- Hooks cited: yes.
- Hooks interesting: maybe? The original hook could be interesting enough. The two alts don't seem particularly interesting to me compared to the original. But I think the original could be improved by mentioning that the target 60 wasn't reached but I'm unsure if this can fit within the 200 character limit and/or whether this violates WP:DYKHOOKBLP. Basically I'm kinda okay with the original hook but would like to workshop this more. Maybe something like:
... that Anatolii Brezvin began an ambitious program to open 60 ice rinks in Ukraine within five years but only managed to complete 12 and refurbish two?
(148 characters). - QPQ: Both done.
- Overall, the article is a very nice addition to Wikipedia, but maybe we could have a better hook? —seav (talk) 22:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Expanding ALT0 to include what resulted from the program is not going to entice anyone to click the link, since they already know that he failed. I feel that I identified the three most interesting aspects in the biography and proposed a hook for each. Possible more interesting hooks would be from odd juxtapositions. I will comment further tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 17:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Here are some other hooks based on odd juxtapositions. I have struck the hook from the reviewer as per my comments above. Flibirigit (talk) 23:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that an Honored Economist of Ukraine began a program to open 60 ice rinks within five years?
- ALT4: ... that an Honored Economist of Ukraine helped establish a minor ice hockey championship for his country?
- ALT5: ... that an Honored Economist of Ukraine created a women's ice hockey championship for his country?
- ALT6: ... that a Ukrainian tax administrator began a program to open 60 ice rinks within five years?
- ALT7: ... that a Ukrainian tax administrator helped establish a minor ice hockey championship for his country?
- ALT8: ... that a Ukrainian tax administrator created a women's ice hockey championship for his country?
- I'm okay with ALT3 or ALT6 —seav (talk) 05:45, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Here are some other hooks based on odd juxtapositions. I have struck the hook from the reviewer as per my comments above. Flibirigit (talk) 23:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Expanding ALT0 to include what resulted from the program is not going to entice anyone to click the link, since they already know that he failed. I feel that I identified the three most interesting aspects in the biography and proposed a hook for each. Possible more interesting hooks would be from odd juxtapositions. I will comment further tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 17:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Requesting a second opinion on all hooks listed above. No detailed rationale was given for six hooks not being approved. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 13:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Ross Mihara
- ... that Ross Mihara "didn't know a yorikiri from hara-kiri" when he was hired as a sumo commentator by NHK?
- ALT1:
... that news anchor and sumo commentator Ross Mihara auctioned himself off on a date for a charity event hosted by Mark DeCarlo?Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/honolulu-star-advertiser/156892820/ - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/50 Lan
CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
- I will review this. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:40, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Approve ALT0. Interesting article. New enough (submitted on day of creation); long enough (4176 characters). Has multiple sources in English, appears BLP-compliant. (Small nit is that "Anonymous" is non-standard for references; if you can't find a byline, just leave it out, especially if you're citing a newspaper article. The one exception I might make is if someone went out of their way to use "Anonymous" as their byline.) Reads neutral; the large number of direct quotes makes it read a bit like a magazine article rather than an encyclopedia entry, but this isn't a show-stopper either, as the quotes appear to appropriately cite their sources. Spot check suggests copyright violation is not a problem. The single boldlinked article looks presentable. QPQ is done. There is no photo. This leaves the hooks. Strongly prefer and approve ALT0 which is interesting and cites a reliable source. Striking ALT1 on the basis that it's not that interesting (lots of people do things like that for charity) and it assumes readers know who Mark DeCarlo is. Other general comments: Is it worth explaining what some of those Japanese terms in the article mean? Not everyone wants to leave the article while reading it to click on the wikilinks. Happy to review additional ALT hooks if needed. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:59, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very kindly for the review. I may take you up on your offer on alternative ALTs. Please give me about a day to work on this. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 17:26, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 12
[edit]Hasan Ali (activist)
- ... that in 1996, language activist Hasan Ali used seven sentences to distinguish the Osing language from Javanese in front of experts? Source: [8], p30-31
- ALT1: ... that language activist Hasan Ali spent over 20 years to compile a dictionary of the Osing language? Source: [9]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mobtown Ballroom
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 08:08, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I did not find any close paraphrasing. Sources are mostly in Indonesian so assuming good faith for them, although the PhD dissertation is in English and the stuff it verifies is verified. I will leave the choice in hook to the promoter. There are just two issues, one for each hook. For ALT0, I'm not actually sure if a PhD dissertation is a suitable source in this case, although it's not giving an exceptional claim perhaps it might be usable. For ALT1, the sentence saying that it was finished in 2002 (and thus the dictionary took 24 years to finish) lacks a footnote, so right now it doesn't meet WP:DYKCITE. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:26, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Added inline for ALT1. Juxlos (talk) 03:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: Almost there. I tried opening the Tempo link used to cite ALT1 but I got redirected to the website's front page. Is the article only available in Indonesia or is the link dead? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Weird, that worked when I made the nom. Seems like the website changed how its hyperlinks worked very recently. Added an archive.org link ([10]) from 2021.
- Thank you, that should work. Assuming good faith for the Tempo source, although a GT translation checks out. Hook choice will be left to the promoter. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Weird, that worked when I made the nom. Seems like the website changed how its hyperlinks worked very recently. Added an archive.org link ([10]) from 2021.
- @Juxlos: Almost there. I tried opening the Tempo link used to cite ALT1 but I got redirected to the website's front page. Is the article only available in Indonesia or is the link dead? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Veylma Falaeo
- ... that Veylma Falaeo is the first woman to be President of the Congress of New Caledonia?
- Source: RFI
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KTSF
- Comment: QPQ to be done within 24 hours. This would be the first DYK on someone born in New Caledonia ever.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:47, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article looks good, giving a complete overview of the subject's biography, thoroughly citing its sources and presenting facts in a neutral manner. Per WP:DYKHOOK, "first" hooks are given greater scrutiny, but I think this meets the criteria for exceptional sourcing as RFI and other sources all draw attention to Falaeo being the first; the fact can also be independently verified by looking at the list of presidents of the congress (linked in the hook). Only thing currently missing is a QPQ, feel free to ping me once that is done. Grnrchst (talk) 14:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Following up on the QPQ. In the future I would highly suggest having a stash of reviews and/or doing the reviews before making the nomination, in order to avoid cases like this. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Grnrchst: QPQ done. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Good to go! --Grnrchst (talk) 08:09, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Charles J. M. Gwinn
- ... that Charles J. M. Gwinn (pictured) was the first state's attorney of Baltimore elected under the constitution he helped draft?
- Source: Baltimore: Its History and Its People. Vol. 3. Lewis Historical Publishing Company. 1912. p. 870. OCLC 1041048386.
- ALT1: ... that a future attorney general of Maryland (pictured) helped draft the will of philanthropist Johns Hopkins? Source: Ibid., pp. 870–871.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Headless priest
Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 03:32, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
- Going to review this one! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Article is new enough, having been moved from draftspace on October 12.
- Three times the required length, certainly long enough.
- Very well sourced, copyvio doesn't show anything substantial, no POV or BLP issues to be found.
- Article is presentable. If we want to quibble on the details, the second picture is staggered from the infobox on V10, but that's not the kind of presentability issue that really matters at DYK.
- Thankfully, the book is in open access! The first hook is fully cited there, and the second one is mostly cited there, although it does not mention that the will was drafted prior to him becoming Attorney General. To be fair, as Hopkins died two years prior, the inference is pretty obvious.
- Both hooks are short enough.
- The first hook is not necessarily amazing, as it already presumes knowledge of what a state's attorney in a city is (I didn't realize it was a distinct position from "attorney general" at first), and it isn't that surprising that someone drafting a constitution would get one of the offices it established. ALT1 is more interesting in my opinion, although it might depend on how recognizable Johns Hopkins is.
- All images used in the article are public domain, and the hook image is present in the article and clear at a diminished size, so it is a good image.
- QPQ has been done ahead of time.
- No other issues, as far as I can see.
- Should be fine for ALT1 at least! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:28, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Kiki Wong
- ... that heavy metal guitarist Kiki Wong (pictured) played drums for Taylor Swift before joining The Smashing Pumpkins?
- Source: NME, June 2024: "Kiki Wong, the new guitarist in The Smashing Pumpkins, has spoken about the “mind-blowing” experience of playing her first shows with the band over the last week. [...] Among her claims to fame is playing drums for Taylor Swift's performance of "Shake It Off" at the 2014 MTV Video Music Awards."
Jonathan Deamer (talk) 12:59, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Nice work! The pic especially is a great find. Innisfree987 (talk) 08:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 13
[edit]Bethwel Henry
- ... that Bethwel Henry was the first Micronesian to receive a degree in his field and served as a United Nations delegate at age 25?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Empire Brunei
- Comment: QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is well sourced, hook is somewhat interesting and QPQ is completed. Playing a bit loose with the timing, but I don't see that being an issue, so I approve. TheBritinator (talk) 15:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Mały Brzostek
- ... that there's a town in Poland which has disappeared?
- Source: Stanaszek, Bogdan (2007), "Z kart historii...", Brzostek: 640-lecie lokacji miasta (1367-2007). Tradycje – Perspektywy rozwoju (PDF) (in Polish), Brzostek: Towarzystwo Miłośników Ziemi Brzosteckiej i Urząd Gminy w Brzostku, p. 37–53, ISBN 978-83-901833-9-8
- ALT1: ... that in medieval Poland a town has been "absorbed" by its bigger neigbour? Source: Stanaszek, Bogdan (2007), "Z kart historii...", Brzostek: 640-lecie lokacji miasta (1367-2007). Tradycje – Perspektywy rozwoju (PDF) (in Polish), Brzostek: Towarzystwo Miłośników Ziemi Brzosteckiej i Urząd Gminy w Brzostku, p. 37–53, ISBN 978-83-901833-9-8
- ALT2: ... that in Poland there existed a town which has never appeared on any maps? Source: Stanaszek, Bogdan (2007), "Z kart historii...", Brzostek: 640-lecie lokacji miasta (1367-2007). Tradycje – Perspektywy rozwoju (PDF) (in Polish), Brzostek: Towarzystwo Miłośników Ziemi Brzosteckiej i Urząd Gminy w Brzostku, p. 37–53, ISBN 978-83-901833-9-8
- Reviewed:
- Comment: My first nomination, so go easy on me :)
Filipny (talk) 20:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
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- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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- Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - AGF on the hook citations due to the fact that I don't speak Polish. ALT2 is ineligible due to the fact that it doesn't appear in the article (and also is somewhat contradicted by the map showing its location in the article). I'm not sure ALT1 is totally factual, is it really correct to say that a town that became a suburb of another was absorbed by it?
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Overall: Pass ALT0 only, other two hooks are ineligible for reasons described above. ALT0 probably also needs a minor reword, may I propose ALT0a: "... that a medieval town in Poland disappeared?". Although this isn't strictly a requirement, some copyediting to clean up awkward grammar/phrasing in the article before it appears on the front page would probably be nice. Thank you for this well researched article! 🌸wasianpower🌸 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 14
[edit]Francis L. Sampson
- ... that Saving Private Ryan was based on a true story involving Francis L. Sampson (pictured), a paratrooper chaplain who eventually became the 12th Chief of Chaplains of the United States Army?
- Source: Longden, Tom (Dec 16, 2007). "War hero Sampson carried message of peace". The Des Moines Register. Retrieved 25 September 2024.
- ALT1: ... that when Francis L. Sampson (pictured) was captured during the D-Day landings, German soldiers did not believe he was a non-combatant because they had never seen a paratrooper chaplain before? Source: Warnock, Bill (1 December 2020). "D-Day Drama at the Klondike Aid Station". Warfare History Network. Archived from the original on 13 Oct 2024.
- ALT2: ... that Dwight Eisenhower nominated Francis L. Sampson (pictured) for the Medal of Honor, but he did not receive it as Army Chief of Staff George C. Marshall did not believe it to be appropriate for non-combatants? Source: Warnock, Bill (1 December 2020). "D-Day Drama at the Klondike Aid Station". Warfare History Network. Archived from the original on 13 Oct 2024.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The ALT1 and ALT2 hooks may need rewording; I'm open to suggestions. ALT2 could use File:D-Day Francis Sampson burials.jpg instead, perhaps cropped and zoomed a bit.
~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 15:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
- No QPQ needed. Passed GAN. Sources are reliable and article is long enough. Image is properly licensed. I think the first hook is too misleading, as when I first read it I thought it implied that Sampson's story played a big role in the film, but the article barely mentions that he suggested something to someone who's story did play a big role. I think that ALT 1 is better, but it should change the link to [[D-Day landings]] rather than the present [[Normandy landings|D-Day landings]] to keep it under the 200 character limit. Source is verified. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 08:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Jabulani Mabuza
- ... that "Buy Cash" is the Speaker of the House of Assembly of Eswatini?
- Source: the majority of sources refer to him by the nickname, e.g. refs 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 13.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy
- Comment: QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:04, 21 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi BeanieFan11, review follows: article created 14 October and exceeds minimum length; I am not familiar with any of the sources but they look to be reliable enough for the matter cited; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing; hook fact is interesting on account of the unusual nickname and checks out to sources. Think this just needs a QPQ, let me know when you have one ready - Dumelow (talk) 11:38, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: QPQ added. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:25, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good to me - Dumelow (talk) 06:20, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Laws of London
- ... that according to the medieval legal compilation known as the Laws of London, also known as IV Æthelred, merchants from lands ruled by the German emperor appear to have enjoyed special trading privileges in eleventh-century London?
- Source: Robertson, Laws, p. 324; Naismith, "Laws of London", p. 2
Robertson: 'Subjects of the emperor appear to be specially privileged.' Naismith: 'Traders in London came from all over northern Europe: those of Rouen, Flanders, Ponthieu, Normandy and Francia are singled out, as well as others from specific towns in the Low Countries (Huy, Liège and Nivelles) and a group referred to as ‘the men of the emperor’ (homines imperatoris) who had especially wideranging
privileges.'- Reviewed:
Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 20:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- Expension date, hook, length, close paraphrase check ok. No QPQ needed. --Soman (talk) 12:03, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note: the hook exceeds 200 characters, so that needs to be sorted out. JuniperChill (talk) 16:44, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Xifeng concentration camp
- ... that the barracks at the Xifeng concentration camp were named for Confucian tenets such as righteousness and filial piety?
- Source: Mühlhahn, Klaus (2009). Criminal Justice in China: A History. Cambridge: Harvard University Press. p. 137. ISBN 978-0-674-05433-2.
- ALT1: ... that the Kuomintang drew from both Nazi and Soviet examples when establishing the Xifeng concentration camp? Source: Mühlhahn, Klaus (2009). Criminal Justice in China: A History. Cambridge: Harvard University Press. p. 137. ISBN 978-0-674-05433-2.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Brenden Bates
- Comment: There could be a hook in Song Zhenzhong being an infant when detained at Xifeng and nine when executed, but I need a stout drink.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:13, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article new and long enough, well-referenced throughout. Both hooks confirmed in the Muhlhahn book, and both interesting, either will work. QPQ is done, and copyvio not detected (Earwig only flagged long names). Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 07:50, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 15
[edit]John Moore (basketball)
- ... that after learning that UCLA's student body president was Black, John Moore's mother said "this is where he's going to school"?
- Source: "'You mean there are fifteen thousand students at this school, and out of all these people the student body president is black?' ... 'Well,' Johnny's mother said, 'this is where he's going to school.' "(Wooden: A Coach's Life)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ricot Joseph
- Comment: The source is offline. Let me know if more quotes are needed.
—Bagumba (talk) 18:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough. Hook is interesting, reads good, and is short enough. Everything in the article is cited. I read the entire article and just fixed a few minor things. Approving the hook. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 16
[edit]He Fucked the Girl Out of Me
- ... that a review described He Fucked the Girl Out of Me as being about "all the ways in which American society fails its most vulnerable"?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Not sure if this is the best hook, so feel free to make suggestions
Iostn (talk) 19:18, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems: - One citation needed tag
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Overall: (t · c) buidhe 23:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Someone added the tag since I nominated this, despite it being in the lede and for material which is discussed further and cited in the same article. Iostn (talk) 22:44, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: Are your concerns resolved, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 23:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like the citation needed tag is no longer there, so sure (t · c) buidhe 03:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
KTSF
- ... that a San Francisco TV station had to convince advertisers that its viewers would not "go down to Chinatown and buy a chicken on a string"? Source: https://www.genealogybank.com/newspaper-clippings/bay-area-chinese-have-american-buying-habits/irylramsqtgwsdckhbypyjpgvyusjjds_ip-10-166-46-152_1700154675048
- ALT1: ... that before it was dubbed into English and aired on national television, the Japanese TV show Iron Chef gained a cult following on a San Francisco TV station? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-san-francisco-examiner-new-chefs-at/135330361/ / https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-san-francisco-examiner-bill-citara/135330357/ and https://search.proquest.com/docview/280768060
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Meijer de Hond
- Comment: The ALT0 clip quote is a little hard to make out due to scan quality.
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:17, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:07, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Tea production in Indonesia
- ... that although tea was introduced to Indonesia in 1684, commercial production only began in the 1820s? Source: [13]
- ALT1: ... that during the colonial period, Indonesia was the largest exporter of tea outside of the British Raj and Ceylon? Source: [14]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Veiqia
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 06:57, 16 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Per WP:DYKCOMPLETE please expand the section Impact to more than a one sentence paragraph RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 02:16, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Easier to merge it to Statistics. That better? Juxlos (talk) 02:41, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: works for me. Thanks for the efforts to create this article.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
I like ALT1, but it's not supported by the source – Ceylon (i.e., Sri Lanka) is named as the second largest producer, with Java and Sumatra combined being third. Pinging Juxlos. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that Ceylon was part of the Raj at that point (kind of like Burma). Guess not. Hook updated. Juxlos (talk) 00:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Having just done a brief Wikidive, it looks pretty interesting. Colonialism was never simple. Anyways, reinstating the tick thanks to the correction. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that Ceylon was part of the Raj at that point (kind of like Burma). Guess not. Hook updated. Juxlos (talk) 00:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
James Smart (police officer)
- ... that Keir Starmer described Chief Constable James Smart (pictured) as "one of the founding fathers of the Scottish Police"?
- Source: [1]
Sahaib (talk) 09:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Sahaib, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 16 October and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I hadn't heard of the publisher used for the citaiton for the hook but the author looks like they are reliable, holding a PhD and having written on the history of Scottish police elsewher (and being a former police superintendent); hook fact is mentioned in the article and supported by the source; image is OK and looks to be public domain by virtue of age; I didn't pick up any issues with overly-close paraphrasing from the online sources; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 10:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ McGowan, John (30 November 2022). Policing the Metropolis of Scotland: A History of Police in The City & County of Edinburgh, 1833-1901 (Volume I). Turlough Publishers. p. 1554. Retrieved 15 October 2023.
Articles created/expanded on October 17
[edit]Derrick Harden
- ... that working at a post office was how Derrick Harden became an NFL player?
- Source: Capital Times ("Another Wisconsin native is wide receiver Derrick Harden, a former Milwaukee South standout. Former Green Bay Packer Lionel Aldridge, who worked with Harden at a Milwaukee post office, recommended him to the Packers." - i.e. he became a Packer because he worked with Aldridge at a post office, since the latter was able to get him a tryout in the league)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yan Ruisheng
- Comment: QPQ to be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC).
- article was recently promoted to GA, is long enough and within policy. The hook is interesting and short enough. BeanieFan11, just need a QPQ. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: I think you missed that I listed Yan Ruisheng above. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- You are right, I did (I saw the "QPQ to be done within 24 hours"). Looks good! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: I think you missed that I listed Yan Ruisheng above. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Fishing cat
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that in Bangladesh, fishing cats are often confused for tiger cubs and are killed whenever they come into contact with humans?
ALT1: ... that the fishing cat (pictured) is estimated to have diverged together with the leopard cat between 4.31 to 1.74 million years ago and 4.25 to 0.02 million years ago?Source: https://zenodo.org/records/1230866 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4691742/- ALT2: ... that the fishing cat (pictured) is strongly associated with wetlands and preys foremost on fish?
- ALT3: ...that the fishing cat diverged from its sister species at least 20,000 years ago?
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Wolverine XI (talk to me) 09:06, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Starting review--Kevmin § 17:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- The first thing I notice is that alt1 doesnt actually make sense. What are the Fishing Cat and Leopard cats diverging from? Also the MYAs are notably specific, where are they from?--Kevmin § 17:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- They diverged from a common ancestor. This needs to be added. Or would that make ALT1 too long ? – BhagyaMani (talk) 20:47, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- The first thing I notice is that alt1 doesnt actually make sense. What are the Fishing Cat and Leopard cats diverging from? Also the MYAs are notably specific, where are they from?--Kevmin § 17:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Wolverine XI and BhagyaMani: A common ancestor of just the fishing cat or of the Fishing cat and the hybridized Leopard cat, or of the fishing and both leopard cat species? Also, the conflicting divergence estimates shouldn't be an "and" connector, they should be an "or", as they are in conflict with each other.--Kevmin § 21:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- The fisher is not part of this scenario AT ALL, but is not even a cat. The fishing cat and the leopard cat are members of the same genus, hence had a common ancestor. Estimation of genetic divergence time from this last common ancestor was performed by two different author teams and derived from two different sets of genetic material + analysis. The 1st estimate for this divergence time of 4.31–1.74 million years ago (mya) was based on mitochondrial gene segments, and the 2nd of 4.25–0.02 mya on SNP genotyping. – BhagyaMani (talk) 01:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- The snark is NOT appropriate, we're both aware the taxa in question here. Are you saying that the estimates are for the full genus then its also including the flat face cat and I get that two divergence dates are present, but it doesn't change that the wording "between 4.31 to 1.74 million years ago and 4.25 to 0.02 million years ago" is fallacious. The two dating results are mildly contradictory so saying "and" between them is not correct unless we are explicit about the genes involved, which the article does not do at this point. The clarification of mitochondrial and SNP genotyping is needed. I also feel that alt1 will run afowl of being to specialized for a broad audience as its currently worded.
- There are also close paraphrase issues in the distribution and Behavior sections that should be dealt with. Full sections of sentences are pulled directly from the source material with no attempt at reqording.--Kevmin § 16:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: @Wolverine XI: What would you both think about this hook:ALT3 "... that the fishing cat is threatened by the destruction of wetlands in Southeast Asia?"
.. in Southeast Asia
is erroneous, because destruction -- and conversion -- of wetlands is a threat EVERYWHERE in fishing cat range. – BhagyaMani (talk) 17:48, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- And how about amending ALT1 to ALT4 "... that the fishing cat diverged from the genus Prionailurus at least 20,000 years ago?" ? – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:43, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: @Wolverine XI: What would you both think about this hook:ALT3 "... that the fishing cat is threatened by the destruction of wetlands in Southeast Asia?"
The close paraphrasing is dealt with, and ALT3 ALT4 hooks are sourced and more hooky for general audiences. GA is new enough and article is very well cited to neutral sourcing. For hook Alt4 @BhagyaMani: we could go with "... that the fishing cat diverged from its sister species at least 20,000 years ago?"--Kevmin § 16:47, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think using Prionailurus is more appropriate, as the words 'sister species' are not in the text. And I once learned that words in DYK phrasing needs to be in text. I also suggest to discard ALT1 with the details and source, the more so as this source is not the same as referenced in text. – BhagyaMani (talk) 17:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thats an easy fix, add the words "sister species" into the molecular dating section of the article, the term is uncontroversial. I agree that ALT1 should be discarded.--Kevmin §
- Since Wolverine XI proposed ALT1, shouldn't we wait with discarding this for them to comment and agree ? Though I proposed this to them initially, before I added ALT2. – BhagyaMani (talk) 19:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't receive those pings, because I had changed my username (quite surprised you guys didn't notice). Rest assured, nevertheless, that I should continue using this username throughout my tenure. So I've been keeping an eye on this DYK but recently I've been dealing with the worst kind of stress you can ever imagine, so I advise you all to choose something appropriate for this DYK without my involvement. I need some much needed time to heal 😞. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 04:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin and BhagyaMani: Better? Green flag, yellow flag or red flag? Just let me know. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 20:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't receive those pings, because I had changed my username (quite surprised you guys didn't notice). Rest assured, nevertheless, that I should continue using this username throughout my tenure. So I've been keeping an eye on this DYK but recently I've been dealing with the worst kind of stress you can ever imagine, so I advise you all to choose something appropriate for this DYK without my involvement. I need some much needed time to heal 😞. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 04:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Alt2 approved, with AGF on paywalled sourcing. no article or policy issues identified now and article appears stable. ook cited and sourced to references 11 and 44 respectively for first and second sections. Looks good to go.--Kevmin § 01:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: Not trying to bikeshed here, but wasn't the Alt2 part about "strongly associated with wetlands" found to be a component of the original concern over copyvio? The phrase "Fishing cats are strongly associated with wetlands" is present verbatim in the IUCN report. I was also thinking that "and preys foremost on fish" reads a little weird and might be replaced with something like "and has a diet which is about 75% fish" (substantiated by paragraph 2 of 'Behaviour and ecology') or "preys mostly on fish". Your guys' call since this has already been approved. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 06:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Johnny Fripp
- ... that Johnny Fripp was "a bundle of football-toting dynamite"?
- Source: quote from Ottawa Citizen
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1939 Liechtenstein general election
- Comment: QPQ to be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi BeanieFan11, review follows: article promoted to GA on 17 October and (just!) nominated within 7 days; article is well written and sources look to be reliable; I didn't pick up on any concerns over paraphrasing (note that the Earwig score is thrown off by proper nouns and attributed quotes); hook fact is simple and effective and checks out to source cited; QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 21:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Rich Romer
- ... that three-time Pizza Hut All-American Rich Romer later worked as an engineer?
- ALT1: ... that NFL player Rich Romer was a three-time Pizza Hut All-American? Source: Pizza Hut
- Reviewed:
~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
- Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Great work on the article! Both hooks are interesting and verified as being sourced in the article. ALT0 relies on this source to say he worked as an engineer. According to the About Us page for the East Greenbush Education Foundation, "The East Greenbush Education Foundation, Inc. is an audited 501(c)(3) non-profit organization whose sole purpose is to raise funds to support student achievement. Founded in 1985 and located in East Greenbush, NY, the Foundation is governed by a volunteer Board of Directors." I think this is a marginally reliable source. If there are concerns that this source is insufficiently reliable, I recommend using ALT1 instead. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Tyromancy
- ... that tyromancy draws on numerology, dream interpretation and antique spell manuals to tell fortunes using cheese?
- Source: Eater: "There wasn’t any sort of central repository of tyromancy information; I had to go back into antique spell manuals, dream interpretation book transcripts, and more."
Jonathan Deamer (talk) 09:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new enough, long enough, sourced well enough with inline sources, found no copyvios. Hook is sourced and appropriate. Rlendog (talk) 23:56, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Waltiea Rolle
... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being discovered by a talent scout while walking home from school?
- ALT1:
... that after being discovered by a talent scout while walking home from school, Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13?Source: https://www.tribune242.com/news/2014/apr/09/waltiea-will-be-first-bahamian-to-play-in-wnba/ - ALT2:
... that Waltiea Rolle was the first Bahamian to play in the WNBA?Source: https://www.tribune242.com/news/2017/sep/25/waltiea-rolle-joins-turkish-womens-basketball/?news - ALT3: ... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being discovered by Olympic track and field medalist Frank Rutherford while walking home from school?
- ALT4:
... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being discovered by Olympic medalist Frank Rutherford while walking home from school??
- Reviewed:
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Overall: Would it be quirkier to replace "talent scout" for Rutherford with "Olympic track and field medalist" i.e. different sport, cachet of Olympics?[15] For ALT2, this is a bit better source that she became the first instead of relying on one anticipating that she "will" be be the first. —Bagumba (talk) 18:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Which of the alts should I revise? Do I just edit them directly or do I add an ALT3? Thanks, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:40, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm OK with the ALT0 format, which I assume was also your preferred one? Typically, in the spirit of WP:TALK#REPLIED, it's best to just create a new ALT, to avoid anyone looking at the discussion getting confused.—Bagumba (talk) 18:50, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9: The new ALTs needs to have Rutherford's medal background mentioned and sourced in the WP page as well (WP:DYKHOOK).—Bagumba (talk) 12:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ref added to Rutherford. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9: Sorry if it wasn't clear. Everything in the hook must be mentioned in prose and sourced in the bolded link i.e. Rolle's page, not Rutherford's page (though you can improve that too, it's just not required for DYK). The focus is on the bolded target.—Bagumba (talk) 17:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ref added to Rutherford. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 seems more interesting as it mentions Rutherford's background being in a different sport. If a backup is somehow needed, ALT2 also checked out.—Bagumba (talk) 05:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 18
[edit]2024 Kansas City metropolitan area rent strike
- ... that a rent strike in Missouri (pictured) is the first to ever target the United States federal government?
💽 LunaEclipse 💽 ⚧ 【=◈︿◈=】 00:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new and long enough. Article is well-sourced, neutral, and only pings on Earwigs for some long proper titles. Hook is cited, short enough, and interesting. QPQ has been completed. Image is freely licensed, clear at a diminished size, and used in the article. Morgan695 (talk) 15:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy
- ... that more than one hundred million stars are visible in Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy (pictured)?
- Source: Algar, Jim (2015-01-26). "Hubble Space Telescope Captures Full Glory of Andromeda Galaxy". Tech Times. Retrieved 2024-10-18., among others
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:00, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Approving. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:24, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Panhandle Gap
- ... that the day hike to Panhandle Gap (pictured) is very popular, being over 10 miles with 3,000 feet elevation gain?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tommy Wood (International Brigades)
- Comment: Don't bother to run this without a picture
(t · c) buidhe 04:49, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
- Beautiful photos here! It is new enough, long enough, the QPQ is good, the article is well-written and reliably sourced, and the photo is clear and attractive at this size. But I don't think there's anything unusual or interesting about this fact—that a hike is popular, long, and elevated is not that remarkable. I also tagged an issue with "Summerland" being referred to without introduction. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 07:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- If you've ever been to a national park, the crowds disappear within a few miles of the trailhead. Most people are not willing to hike 10+ miles (t · c) buidhe 14:12, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t think the remarkableness of this fact is apparent to people who don’t hike national parks. Can you propose some alternates?꧁Zanahary꧂ 16:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1... although rated "possibly the best day hike" in Mount Rainier National Park, you cannot see Rainier from Panhandle Gap (pictured)? (t · c) buidhe 23:41, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! ꧁Zanahary꧂ 00:48, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 19
[edit]Lockheed Martin FB-22
- ... that a bomber version of the F-22 Raptor called the FB-22 was once considered by the U.S. Air Force in the mid-2000s?
- Reviewed:
Steve7c8 (talk) 02:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article recently passed GAR, is free from copyvio, no QPQ is required. The hook looks good for the main page. I fixed the image formatting within the nomination, but unfortunately this non-free image can't be used per WP:DYKIMG. Is there a free image that can be used in its place? ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 18:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- I went through the images within the article and noticed that they are also all non-free and that there is no Commons category for this version of the F-22. I don't see a way that the hook can be approved with an image unless we can track down some free images of the variant. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 18:54, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Correct, there are unfortunately no free images for this design, since it wasn't built, all accurate renditions of it are officially released images by Lockheed Martin to industry publications and Air Force Association symposiums. Can the hook be approved without an image? Steve7c8 (talk) 20:49, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Certainly. The hook is approved with the image omitted in line with my previous comment. Excellent work on the article! ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 23:53, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Mccunicano Did this nomination get approved? I noticed that it's still listed as pending, which seems to indicate that it's still under review. Steve7c8 (talk) 06:55, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Certainly. The hook is approved with the image omitted in line with my previous comment. Excellent work on the article! ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 23:53, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Correct, there are unfortunately no free images for this design, since it wasn't built, all accurate renditions of it are officially released images by Lockheed Martin to industry publications and Air Force Association symposiums. Can the hook be approved without an image? Steve7c8 (talk) 20:49, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- I went through the images within the article and noticed that they are also all non-free and that there is no Commons category for this version of the F-22. I don't see a way that the hook can be approved with an image unless we can track down some free images of the variant. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 18:54, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
John Green (basketball)
- ... that John Green was UCLA's leading scorer on the first of coach John Wooden's 12 Final Four teams?
- Source: "John Green, All American senior guard, was the team's high scorer with 559 points in 29 games, a 19.3 average." (The California Eagle) "At 6 feet 3, he started for the first of Wooden’s 12 NCAA Final Four teams." (Pioneer Press)
—Bagumba (talk) 20:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing. RecycledPixels (talk) 20:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- 1. New enough - Article created on the day of the nomination
- 2. Long enough - 4451 Readable prose size, not a stub
- 3. External policy compliance - . Well-sourced, neutral, and BLP-compliant. Spot checked sources 11, 19, 21, and 26 (11% of sources used) shows no copyvio or close paraphrasing
- 4. Presentable - No article improvement or citation needed tags.
- 5. Sourced - . Verified both sources provided, meets RS.
- 6. Hook short enough - Brief and to the point.
- 7. Hook interesting -
- 8. Images - - No image included for main page publication
- 9. QPQ - - Done.
- 10. Other - No problems.
- Overall: Pass. RecycledPixels (talk) 20:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
The Empire Brunei
- ... that the opening of The Empire Brunei hotel (pictured) was timed to help create capacity in Brunei for an APEC summit? Source: Brunei's Empire Hotel to open before APEC
CMD (talk) 08:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:59, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Shadia Abu Ghazaleh
- ... that Shadia Abu Ghazaleh returned to Palestine following the Israeli occupation of the West Bank, despite her family attempting to dissuade her? Source: Omar, Abdullah (March 2022). "Shadia Abu Ghazaleh 1949–1968". The Women who Made Palestinian History (PDF). London: Middle East Monitor. pp. 21–22. Retrieved 2 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Shadia Abu Ghazaleh was one of the first women to join the Palestinian resistance to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank? Source: Pappe, Ilan; Mansour, Johnny (2022). "Abu Gazaleh, Shadia (1949–1968)". Historical Dictionary of Palestine. Rowman & Littlefield. p. 31. ISBN 9781538119860.
- ALT2: ... that Leila Khaled adopted the name of Shadia Abu Ghazaleh as her nom de guerre? Source: Khalili, Laleh (2007). Heroes and Martyrs of Palestine: The Politics of National Commemoration. Cambridge University Press. p. 123. ISBN 978-0-521-86512-8.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Veylma Falaeo
Grnrchst (talk) 14:43, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: All three hooks were verified, but I prefer ALT1 as I believe it to be the most unique hook of the three. Yue🌙 19:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Feelie
- ... that feelies (example pictured) have been used for everything from copy protection to sexual roleplay?
- Source: copy protection: Rosenberg, Adam (18 February 2013). "Discussing the Emergent Silliness and Enduring Excellence of Infocom with Founder and Gaming Legend, Dave Lebling". Digital Trends. Archived from the original on 18 July 2013. Retrieved 19 October 2024.; erotic roleplay (potentially NSFW image at the relevant paragraph) Peters, Ian M. (2014). "Peril-Sensitive Sunglasses, Superheroes in Miniature, and Pink Polka-dot Boxers: Artifact and Collectible Video Game Feelies, Play, and the Paratextual Gaming Experience". Transformative Works and Cultures. 16. doi:10.3983/twc.2014.0509.
- ALT1: ... that the feelies shipped with The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy included a pin (pictured), a cotton ball, and a microscopic space fleet, but no tea? Source: Peters, Ian M. (2014). "Peril-Sensitive Sunglasses, Superheroes in Miniature, and Pink Polka-dot Boxers: Artifact and Collectible Video Game Feelies, Play, and the Paratextual Gaming Experience". Transformative Works and Cultures. 16. doi:10.3983/twc.2014.0509.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Qian Jin Bao
- Comment: Note that this was a redirect from 2016 through today. Even then, this would count as a 5x expansion over what existed before the article was turned into a redirect.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Looks good to me. Expansion is fine (this has nothing in common with the earlier collection of unverified trivia), the first hook is verified, I don't see any plagiarism, paragraphs are sourced, the image is properly licensed, etc. I like the first hook best. Drmies (talk) 01:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Qian Jin Bao
- ... that when French secret police raided Deng Xiaoping's hotel room in Billancourt, they encountered copies of the Moscow newspaper Qian Jin Bao (pictured)?
- Source: Alexander V. Pantsov, Steven I. Levine. Deng Xiaoping: A Revolutionary Life. Oxford University Press, 2015. pp. 34-35
Soman (talk) 21:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: New enough and long enough. Earwig is showing me 0%, which may be an error, but spotchecking I haven't found any issues. Image is sufficiently clear for what it is – one doesn't expect newspapers to show up well at 100px. Looks good to go! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 20
[edit]Harvey Tuckett
- ... that cavalry officer Harvey Tuckett retired from the British Army to become an actor, but was shot in a duel by his former commanding officer?
- Source: Siddons, J. H. "Thespic Reminiscences". Demorest's Illustrated Monthly. Vol. 15, no. 1. p. 143. [16]
AntientNestor (talk) 14:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The source used is quite difficult to read but appears to put together the events of Tuckett's life at this point as described. Just need to address the access dates issue (corrected): There are access dates in the article that predate the publishing of the article on Oct 20, was this copied from a sandbox, draft or external document? Reconrabbit 21:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Copy and paste from my sandbox here. Now fixed, but I only found one—did I miss some? Thanks.--AntientNestor (talk) 22:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good, that was it. Reconrabbit 22:15, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Reconrabbit: So can this get the "tick" for promotion?--AntientNestor (talk) 08:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Whoops, forgot about that parameter. Reconrabbit 12:29, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Reconrabbit: So can this get the "tick" for promotion?--AntientNestor (talk) 08:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good, that was it. Reconrabbit 22:15, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Dog
- ... that dogs (examples pictured) were domesticated from wolves over 14,000 years ago by hunter-gatherers, before the development of agriculture? Source: https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2010083118 https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(15)00432-7
ALT1: ... that humans have consumed dog (example pictured) meat for at least 14,000 years?Source: https://books.google.co.za/books?id=JwGZTQunH00C&pg=PA208&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false- Reviewed:
Wolverine XI (talk to me) 09:14, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Comments: ALT1 is going to make a lot of people upset. I should know, as I'm from South Korea, where dog meat is still eaten. BorgQueen (talk) 09:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- All the better for views if you ask me, but technically that hook would be about dog meat and thus it would fail WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE, so with regret I've struck it. ALT0 is available for review; might have a rummage for hooks myself. (Also, that image of 'a female dog nursing' is adorable.)--Launchballer 19:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Article received a GA review seven days before DYK nom, so it's new enough. It's definitely long enough, and I'm going to trust that the GA process addressed any potential concerns about sourcing. The hook is interesting, and the image is freely-licensed. QPQ is not required. Personally I think it would be nice to have an image comparing a dog to a wolf since the hook makes mention of both, but that's just my personal opinion. Overall, it seems good to go! Di (they-them) (talk) 12:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Now that I mention it, might I suggest this alt image? commons:File:Comparison of a wolf and a pug.png. Di (they-them) (talk) 12:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- That image is low-quality IMO, so no, not that one. I would instead prefer a husky since it looks somewhat similar to a wolf. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 12:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Now that I mention it, might I suggest this alt image? commons:File:Comparison of a wolf and a pug.png. Di (they-them) (talk) 12:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm doing a tick to make clear that this comment is not an objection, but just excerpts from the two sources verifying the hook fact. The earlier article says, "The researchers determined that dogs were probably domesticated from now-extinct wolves between 11,000 and 16,000 years ago — before humans began farming around 10,000 years ago.
"[17] and the more recent article pushes this timeline back further,[18] "Dogs were the first domesticated species and the only animal known to enter into a domestic relationship with people during the Pleistocene [...] dogs were domesticated in Siberia by 23,000 years ago, possibly while both people and wolves were isolated during the harsh climate of the Last Glacial Maximum. Dogs then accompanied the first people into the Americas and traveled with them as humans rapidly dispersed into the continent beginning 15,000 years ago [...] The earliest generally accepted dog dates to 15 ka (from the site of Bonn-Oberkassel, discussed below). However, claims for the existence of domestic dogs as early as 40 ka (22–28) have been made on the basis of morphological (22, 24–27), isotopic (22, 29), genetic (22, 28, 30), and contextual assessments (24, 31) of ancient canid remains. Yet, none of these potential domestication markers is fail-safe, owing to the fact that wolves and early domesticated dogs can be difficult to distinguish from each other.
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Feelie (Brave New World)
- ... that Aldous Huxley developed his "feelies" in response to the emergence of "talkies"?
- Source: Frost, Laura (2006). "Huxley's Feelies: The Cinema of Sensation in "Brave New World"". Twentieth Century Literature. 52 (4): 447. ISSN 0041-462X. "The "feelies," a cinema of titillating, pansensual stimulation, are clearly a response to the "talkies," as Huxley extends the innovation of synchronized sound to include all the senses."
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
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Articles created/expanded on October 21
[edit]Marcia Moore (actress)
- ... that despite her father wanting her to become a music teacher, Marcia Moore ran away to Chicago to star in silent film, vaudeville, cabaret, and burlesque performances?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Western Air Lines Flight 636
- Comment: Article was moved from draftspace to mainspace with this edit.
SilverserenC 18:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Very interesting! Good to go. Skyshiftertalk 20:09, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Xu Xinfu
- ... that Xu Xinfu adapted the fictional Chinese-American detective Charlie Chan for Chinese audiences?
- Source: "Charlie Chan in China". The Chinese Mirror: A Journal of Chinese Film History. May 2008. Archived from the original on 8 July 2011. Retrieved 18 April 2011.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:53, 21 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The article is interesting and well-sourced, but I highly recommend the promoter change the hook to "... that Xu Xinfu adapted the fictional Chinese-American detective Charlie Chan for Chinese audiences?" I think most readers will be unfamiliar with the character, as I myself was until I read both articles. Yue🌙 04:07, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Fair. I forget that I've been reading about 20s/30s cinema for a while, and that Charlie Chan isn't as well known to the average reader. Done. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:24, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
The Gust of Wind (Renoir)
- ... that The Gust of Wind is Renoir's attempt to paint air?
- Source: Source: Munro, Jane (2003). French Impresssionists. Cambridge University Press. pp. 2-3, 40-1. ISBN 9780521813266. OCLC 51848366. Quote: This painting was probably executed around 1872. The scene is thought to be near Saint-Cloud, or perhaps elsewhere in the Ile-de-France; however, as its title suggests, Renoir’s aim was less to record a recognizable tract of countryside than to register that most unpaintable of elements: air."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/White Noise (Will Wood song); Template:Did you know nominations/Talli Osborne; Template:Did you know nominations/48th Hong Kong International Film Festival
Viriditas (talk) 01:23, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
- Approve, a well-done and well-sourced page. My only concern is that the image is too small and should be enlarged in order to highlight both the page topic and a good example of Renoir's unique style. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 22
[edit]Al-Shaykh Badr
- ... that al-Shaykh Badr was the hometown of Salih al-Ali, who led the Alawite revolt against the French in Syria?
- Source: Winter, Stefan (2016). A History of the 'Alawis: From Medieval Aleppo to the Turkish Republic, p. 245
- Reviewed: Socialist Party of India (1955)
Al Ameer (talk) 17:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Al Ameer, review follows: article more than 5x expanded from 22 October; largely from a single, reliable source; other sources used look to be reliable also; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in article and checks out (as far as I can tell from my rudimentary French) to the source (albeit the online preview gave me a different page number, I am assuming you may be working from a printed copy?); happy to AGF there are no copyright violations (principal source is in French, others offline, Earwig check is fine); a QPQ has been carried out. My only query is with the "Climate" section, I wasn't sure how I verify the information in it, a search for "Al-Shaykh Badr" at the cited source of "Climate-data.org" doesn't yield anything - Dumelow (talk) 07:50, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: I removed the table altogether, it's relatively pointless and I also could not verify (I did not add the table). Al Ameer (talk) 18:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- That's fine - Dumelow (talk) 19:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Shunten
... that the myth of Shunten, the legendary first king of Chūzan, was used to justify the 1609 Invasion of Ryukyu?
- Source: Smits, Gregory (2019). Maritime Ryukyu, 1050–1650. Honolulu: University of Hawai'i Press. 154–155
- ALT1: ... that the myth of Shunten, the legendary first king of Chūzan, was used to justify the 1872 annexation of Okinawa?
- Source: Itō, Yūshi (2011). "The Legend of Minamoto no Tametomo: Controversy and Connections Between Ryūkyūan/Okinawan and Japanese Histories". In Edmond, Jacob; Johnson, Henry; Leckie, Jacqueline (eds.). Recentering Asia: Histories, Encounters, Identities. Leiden: Brill. doi:10.1163/9789004212619_006. ISBN 9781906876258., pp. 90–100.
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:57, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Generalissima, this article was an interesting read! Article long enough, well-sourced, copyvio-free, and presentable. This nomination is just within the 7 day deadline. QPQ done. Hook is interesting and sourced (offline accepted in good faith).
- I can't help but think a hook along the lines of: "... that the myth of Shunten, the legendary first king of Chūzan, was used to justify the 1872 annexation of Okinawa?" would be more interesting, if just because it shows how late this myth still had currency (I also suspect front page readers would be more familiar with Okinawa than Ryukyu). I'll leave it up to your judgement if you want to include such an alt. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 18:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421: That's actually a good point. I'll use the recommended alt hook, with Itō, Yūshi (2011). "The Legend of Minamoto no Tametomo: Controversy and Connections Between Ryūkyūan/Okinawan and Japanese Histories". In Edmond, Jacob; Johnson, Henry; Leckie, Jacqueline (eds.). Recentering Asia: Histories, Encounters, Identities. Leiden: Brill. doi:10.1163/9789004212619_006. ISBN 9781906876258., pp. 90–100 as the source. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nice, I've added the alt. Good to go. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Oun Yao-ling
- ... that the weightlifter Oun Yao-ling was asked to compete in the South African Games, but the opportunity was swiftly rescinded once the organisers found out he was Chinese?
- Source: Blutstein, Harry (2021). Games of Discontent: Protests, Boycotts, and Politics at the 1968 Mexico Olympics. Montreal: McGill–Queen's University Press. pp. 34–35. ISBN 978-0-2280-0675-6. Retrieved 2024-10-26 – via Google Books.
This source verifies that Oun Yao-ling is also known as Günter Wu. The book notes: "To assure the white population that South Africa was held in high regard by the sporting world, it was important to have a large contingent of international competitors at the Bloemfontein Games. To this end, nearly 100 invitations went out to foreign athletes; white athletes. There were, however, some embarrassing slip-ups. Inadvertently, the organisers invited German weightlifter Günter Wu, who was Chinese, and New Zealand runner Kevin Ross, who was Maori. Both invitations were promptly withdrawn when this unforgivable mistake was discovered. In the months running up to the South Africa Games, Brutus lobbied athletes, asking them not to participate."
- ALT1: ... that the weightlifter Oun Yao-ling was asked to compete in the South African Games, but the opportunity was swiftly rescinded once the organisers found out he was Chinese, not white? Source: Same source as the first hook.
- ALT2: ... that Oun Yao-ling, who did not speak Mandarin Chinese, represented Taiwan at the 1964 Summer Olympics? Source: Ji, Cheng-jin 吉承進 (1964-10-12). "項耀林 惡補國語 拜師鐵人" [Oun Yao-ling Intensifies Mandarin Studies with the Help of a Mentor]. United Daily News (in Chinese). p. 3.
This source verifies that he competed at the 1964 Summer Olympics. The article notes: "不會說國語的我國舉重選手項耀林,最近幾天困擾極了,因為每當隊伍集合時,他無法聽懂口令,常常有不知適從的感覺。"
From Google Translate: "Oun Yao-ling, a Taiwanese weightlifter who cannot speak Mandarin, has been extremely troubled in recent days because whenever the team gathers, he cannot understand the commands and often feels at a loss."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rich Romer
Cunard (talk) 07:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Recently expanded, long enough, solidly written. Verified by source, QPQ done. The article is good. I think ALT0 is the best, but ALT1 is perhaps clearer on why it was rescinded so maybe we should go with that. ALT2 is also very interesting, but I think slightly less than the first 2.
- Unrelated to DYK eligibility, but does any source say what language he spoke if it wasn't Mandarin? I am curious. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:31, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review, PARAKANYAA (talk · contribs)! I didn't find any sources that directly confirmed what language he spoke. But he was born in Germany in 1940, his mother is from Germany, he studied at the German university Stuttgart Technology University of Applied Sciences, and he was living in Germany in 1963 right before the 1964 Summer Olympics. So it is high likely that his native language is German. Cunard (talk) 09:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
2024 Talerddig train collision
- ... that the 2024 Talerddig train collision was the first collision in Wales between trains since 1991?
- Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glg9gzrdjo "The last train crash in Wales happened in 1991 inside the Severn Tunnel which allows travel between England and Wales."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Final Fantasy XIV: Dawntrail
- Comment: I thought I was the first one to create this train accident that just happened in Wales, as seen over here
JuniperChill (talk) 20:55, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The merge issue will need to be resolved before this can be approved — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- @MaxnaCarta: that merge template is about history merging, not the one you would expect. JuniperChill (talk) 12:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- @JuniperChill: ah, I see. Is that template not a barrier to passing? I wouldn’t have thought it’s okay for an article to appear on the main page while it has some sort of call to action template. Also, is your username referencing the Juniper Inn from Hotel Hell? — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- @MaxnaCarta: The reason why a history merge is being presented is because this page was (possibly) cut and pasted from Draft:Talerddig rail accident. And that will be accepted/declined well before it hits the main page anyway. And with regards where my username came from, I got it from my favourite plant. I also wanted to add a little chill to my username. I never watched Hotel Hell or even heard of it, but heard Gordon Ramsay. JuniperChill (talk) 16:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- @JuniperChill: Consider the antepenultimate version of the draft, i.e. that before it was blanked and redirected, and also consider the version of the article as it stood at the same moment. There are significant differences; it is clear to me that there was no cut-and-paste. They were started independently, both in mainspace, although the one that is presently in draftspace was moved there by Discospinster (talk · contribs). I don't think that a histmerge would be useful. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:35, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Redrose64 is correct. There was no cut and paste involved, therefore there is no need for a history merge. I've removed the template. Mjroots (talk) 09:43, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- That's good to hear. Now we'll have to wait for the original reviewer to approve this. I would also note (as seen from my comment at the top) that I also created my own version of this crash, but since I realised one was already made, I redirected that. That's why I normally do DYKs on articles I created and don't really do drive-by nominations (in fact, most DYKs are self-noms). JuniperChill (talk) 11:01, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- We are all good to go, merge issue resolved — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:01, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- That's good to hear. Now we'll have to wait for the original reviewer to approve this. I would also note (as seen from my comment at the top) that I also created my own version of this crash, but since I realised one was already made, I redirected that. That's why I normally do DYKs on articles I created and don't really do drive-by nominations (in fact, most DYKs are self-noms). JuniperChill (talk) 11:01, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Redrose64 is correct. There was no cut and paste involved, therefore there is no need for a history merge. I've removed the template. Mjroots (talk) 09:43, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- @JuniperChill: Consider the antepenultimate version of the draft, i.e. that before it was blanked and redirected, and also consider the version of the article as it stood at the same moment. There are significant differences; it is clear to me that there was no cut-and-paste. They were started independently, both in mainspace, although the one that is presently in draftspace was moved there by Discospinster (talk · contribs). I don't think that a histmerge would be useful. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:35, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- @MaxnaCarta: The reason why a history merge is being presented is because this page was (possibly) cut and pasted from Draft:Talerddig rail accident. And that will be accepted/declined well before it hits the main page anyway. And with regards where my username came from, I got it from my favourite plant. I also wanted to add a little chill to my username. I never watched Hotel Hell or even heard of it, but heard Gordon Ramsay. JuniperChill (talk) 16:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- @JuniperChill: ah, I see. Is that template not a barrier to passing? I wouldn’t have thought it’s okay for an article to appear on the main page while it has some sort of call to action template. Also, is your username referencing the Juniper Inn from Hotel Hell? — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
@MaxnaCarta: You're using the wrong checkmark for DYK. Its supposed to be {{subst:DYKtick}}
JuniperChill (talk) 22:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Gilbert Wilson (geologist)
- ... that geologist Gilbert Wilson declared his favourite expression was “I’m in love” in his McGill yearbook in 1924?
- Source: Source – Old McGill 1924 yearbook (https://yearbooks.mcgill.ca/viewbook.php?&campus=downtown&book_id=1924#page/101/mode/1up) 'Favourite expression "I'm in love"
- ALT1: ... that when geologist Gilbert Wilson went to school he was the fifth Wilson, so was known as "Quintus"? Source: Source – offline obituary '[he] went to school in Windermere where as one of five attending Wilsons he was known as Quintus' - source (ref 1) JGR and JC (1986). "Dr G Wilson (1899–1986)". Annual Report, Geological Society of London: 34–35
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Georgina Sutton
Chaiten1 (talk) 20:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hello Chaiten1, I'll have a look at this nomination and I'll post my review soon. One short initial observation: the last source (Who's Who) is unreliable and should be replaced, see Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources. Phlsph7 (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you - fixed! Chaiten1 (talk) 17:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Thanks for the adjustment. The article was created on 22 October 2024. It has a readable prose size of 6461 characters. Every paragraph is sourced. WP:EARWIG shows no copyvios. QPQ was done. The language of the article is neutral.
I'm not sure that the article should include the sentence with the quotes from the McGill yearbook since this sounds to me like trivia. Do comparable articles do that or do secondary sources discuss them? If the sentence is removed then we could not use the ALT0, which would leave us with ALT1. ALT1 is cited and interesting. I would make a slight grammatical adjustment:
ALT1a: ... that when geologist Gilbert Wilson went to school he was the fifth Wilson, so he was known as "Quintus"?
I think it would be better to move the section "Family" before the section "Awards and recognition" but this is optional. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you; good point about trivia, I will edit this and am very happy with ALT1a Chaiten1 (talk) 17:55, 27 October 2024 (UTC) All fixed now! Phlsph7 Chaiten1 (talk) 18:19, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good, approve ALT1a. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Helliwells Ltd
- ... that British aerospace engineering firm Helliwells Ltd (advertisement pictured) began as a maker of fireplace accessories?
- Source: "Helliwells Ltd was an engineering company, which was founded at Fountain Street, Dudley, in 1889 manufacturing fire irons and fire guards and the like" from: Smith, Ron (2004). British Built Aircraft: Central & Eastern England. Tempus. p. 204. ISBN 978-0-7524-3162-8.
- ALT1: ... that Helliwells Ltd (advertisement pictured) produced a motor scooter that was used by British police? Source: "Swallow 'Gadabout' motor scooter, 1948. The Swallow Coachbuilding Co. Ltd was bought in 1945 by the Helliwell Group, an aircraft servicing and repair company. They started to produce the Gadabout in 1946 ... was confirmed successful when adopted by public bodies including the Staffordshire Constabulary." from "Gadabout Motor Scooter". Science Museum Group Collection. Retrieved 10 October 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/James Smart (police officer)
Dumelow (talk) 20:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article moved to mainspace on same date as nomination. No issues with article writing, earwig & citations, and it is long enough. AGF on both hook sources. QPQ done. Good to go, nice work! B3251(talk) 03:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Henry Smith (moneylender)
- ... that a charity founded by Henry Smith (memorial pictured) in 1628 now has assets of over £1 billion?
- Source: "The Charity was founded in 1628 by Henry Smith, a businessman working in the City of London." from: "About Us". Henry Smith Charity. Retrieved 16 October 2024. and: net assets listed at Charity Commission for 2023 are £1.26 billion see: "The Henry Smith Charity - Charity 230102". Charity Commission. Retrieved 16 October 2024.
Dumelow (talk) 11:54, 22 October 2024 (UTC).
- Fascinating article. Long enough, well-written and recent enough. Hook is very nice and properly supported by an inline citation to a reliable source. QPQ is done and the image has the correct license tag. Should be good to go. Yakikaki (talk) 20:25, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Coincidentally, I realised I just did a QPQ by reviewing an article about a Smith so I can do my own nomination of an article about a Smith. Yakikaki (talk) 20:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Abortion in Equatorial Guinea
- ... that Equatorial Guinea's abortion law is one of only eleven (as of 2022) that says a woman's spouse must approve of her receiving an abortion?
- Source: [19] The 10 other countries that require spousal consent are Syria, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Equatorial Guinea, the United Arab Emirates, Taiwan, Indonesia, Turkey and Morocco, according to the Center for Reproductive Rights.
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 20:09, 22 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new enough, having been moved to mainspace on October 22. QPQ done. No image. Hook is very interesting and inline cited to the Washington Post, which is RS. Article is long enough and NPOV. Earwig indicates low likelihood of copyvio. Looks good! Chetsford (talk) 02:52, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Sack of Delhi (1757)
- ... that during the Afghan sacking of Delhi, over 30 to as high as 300 million rupees worth of goods were plundered?
- Source: Ahmad Shah Durrani: Father of Modern Afghanistan - Gandha Singh pg. 186
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Noorullah (talk) 16:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Let's clean up the hook, but otherwise good to go. Congrats on the GA.. ThaesOfereode (talk) 01:31, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
@ThaesOfereode: So, something like this; "that during the Afghan sacking of Delhi, between 30 and 300 million rupees worth of goods were plundered?" Noorullah (talk) 01:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Noorullah21: Yep, that works for me. Approved. ThaesOfereode (talk) 02:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 23
[edit]Rust Red Hills
- ... that Rust Red Hills is being sold to renovate student housing, a court-approved move that museum associations say violates the ethics of deaccessioning?
- Source: Boucher, Brian (September 4, 2024). "A Court Approves Valparaiso University’s Controversial Plan to Sell Paintings From Brauer Museum Collection". Artnet. News. Quote: "The Brauer Museum of Art at Indiana's Valparaiso University has been at the center of controversy for a year and a half, as the school has moved to sell three valuable artworks from the museum’s collection to fund improvements to freshman dormitories. The paintings, by Frederic Edwin Church, Childe Hassam, and Georgia O'Keeffe, have been valued in the area of $20 million. Now, the Porter County Superior Court has approved of the university's plan, according to a court order dated August 29...The plan to sell the works was met with an outcry from many in the university community, a lawsuit filed by namesake founding director Richard Brauer, and condemnation of the sale in a joint statement issued by the leadership of the Association of Art Museum Directors, the American Alliance of Museums, the Association of Academic Museums and Galleries, and the Association of Art Museum Curators. "This remains a fundamental ethical principle of the museum field, one which all institutions are obligated to respect: in no event shall funds from deaccessioned works be used for anything other than support for a museum's collections, either through acquisitions or the direct care of works of art".
- Another source: Cui, Liya (September 4, 2024). "Indiana Court Allows Valparaiso University to Sell O'Keeffe Painting". Reuters. Quote: "An Indiana judge has ruled that Valparaiso University can sell a Georgia O'Keeffe and two other paintings...The private Lutheran university in Indiana last February announced its intention to sell the most valuable paintings in its Brauer Museum of Art collection, estimated to be worth $20 million in total, to fund a dormitory renovation...When a museum sells its artwork to raise funds, the money is typically used to acquire, store or preserve other works, according to guidelines established by the Association of Art Museum Directors."
- Older source that was published before the court approval: "Richardson, Kalia (March 10, 2023). "Its Georgia O'Keeffe Is Worth Millions. And Its Dorms Need Updating". The New York Times. Quote: "Schools typically court controversy when they announce they will sell artworks to raise funds, an act known as deaccessioning. Several sales have resulted in sanctions from art associations....Valparaiso's desire to pay for work on the dorms with proceeds from the paintings has received pushback...Valparaiso's announcement alarmed art associations because of a long-held principle among museums: Revenue from deaccessioned pieces should be used to acquire new works, not for operating costs...Four art associations issued a joint statement condemning Valparaiso and the idea that the works in the Brauer's collection were "disposable financial assets." One of the groups, the Association of Art Museum Directors, also told the museum’s director, Jonathan Canning, that if the university proceeded with the sale, it would consider censuring and sanctioning the museum."
Viriditas (talk) 23:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
- the article certainly new enough, long enough, and very well-sourced. Nominator has also reviewed enough. The hook is short enough, and touches on an interesting and ongoing issue. Cardofk (talk) 17:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Carl Smith (canoeing)
- ... that a canoe (pictured) designed by Carl Smith accompanied a circumnavigation of Earth in 1883–1885? Source: Source (in Swedish)
- ALT1: ... that Carl Smith has been called the "father of Swedish canoe sporting"? Source: Most easily accessible here (in Swedish)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Henry Smith (moneylender)
Yakikaki (talk) 20:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
- Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 06:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- I verified that both ALT0 and ALT1 are sourced in the article. The image in ALT0 is verified as having been released under CC BY 4.0 and would be a good image for the lead image slot. Cunard (talk) 06:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Yan Ruisheng
- ... that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured) was China's first full-length feature film?
- Source: Xiao, Zhiwei (1998). "Chinese Cinema". In Zhang, Yingjin; Xiao, Zhiwei (eds.). Encyclopedia of Chinese Film. New York, London: Routledge. pp. 3–30. ISBN 978-0-415-15168-9., among many others
- ALT1: ... that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured), China's first full-length feature film, was banned within two years? Source: Xiao, Zhiwei (2013). "Policing Film in Early Twentieth-Century China". In Rojas, Carlos; Chow, Eileen (eds.). The Oxford Handbook of Chinese Cinemas. Oxford: Oxford University Press. pp. 452–471. doi:10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199765607.013.0025. ISBN 978-0-19-998331-5.
- ALT2: ... that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured), China's first full-length feature film, advertised its shooting in brothels? Source: Chen Jianhua (陈建华) (24 August 2021). 《阎瑞生》摄制与剧照之百年回观 [A Century-long Review of the Filming and Stills of "Yan Ruisheng"]. The Paper (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 22 October 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/George Frederick Cumming Smillie
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:00, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article looks good. Nice work. A minor point: @Crisco 1492: Is it appropriate to say in the hook that it was China's first full-length feature film
when the article seems to be a little less certain (Yan Ruisheng is commonly identified as the first Chinese-made full-length feature film
/ has been considered China's first full-length feature film
)? BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi BeanieFan11. That's me hedging my bets, because I distrust "first" claims even when multiple sources say "is", explicitly. I've changed the article to say "is". — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:27, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Probably fine then. Though, if you're not completely certain you could change the hook to something like e.g. "that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured) is considered China's first full-length feature film?" or "that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured), considered China's first full-length feature film, was banned within two years? BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah... only the sources don't have that level of uncertainty. I should have just gone with "is" from the get-go. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:37, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Probably fine then. Though, if you're not completely certain you could change the hook to something like e.g. "that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured) is considered China's first full-length feature film?" or "that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured), considered China's first full-length feature film, was banned within two years? BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Castle Knob
- ... that the mediaeval Castle Knob in Derbyshire, England, was the site of a Cold War nuclear monitoring station?
- Source: Date of foundation is unknown but likely 12th century and certainly before 14th century: "there is no documentary record for this site before the fourteenth century, and the date of construction is unknown. Nevertheless, from the present remains it appears to have been a motte-and-bailey construction and would be consistent with those constructed during King Stephen's reign" from: Boston, Hannah (2024). Lordship and Locality in the Long Twelfth Century. Boydell & Brewer. p. 82. ISBN 978-1-78327-783-4. and " Excluded from the scheduling are all perimeter fencing, the sheds and stable within the area of the north bailey, and the underground MOD installation in the central bailey although the ground beneath all these features except the MOD installation is included." from: "Castle Gresley motte and bailey castle, Castle Gresley - 1011209". Historic England. Retrieved 18 October 2024.; the plaque on the site makes it clear this is a Royal Observer Corps monitoring post
- ALT1: ... that a settlement in Derbyshire, England, is named after a Knob? Source: "The Gresleys, more unusually, seem to have built a castle at their caput. The name is preserved in the current name of Castle Gresley, and in a mound, still approximately 20 feet high, known locally as Castle Knob, that lies about a mile from the remains of Gresley Priory" from: Boston, Hannah (2024). Lordship and Locality in the Long Twelfth Century. Boydell & Brewer. p. 82. ISBN 978-1-78327-783-4. see also the plaque on the site
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jabulani Mabuza
- Comment: There is probably some fun to be had with hooks around a "4m-high Knob" or similar but beyond me at the moment
Dumelow (talk) 13:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 15:34, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 24
[edit]Shuah Khan
- ... that Shuah Khan became the first female Linux Foundation Fellow in 2019, joining Linus Torvalds and Greg Kroah-Hartman?
- ALT1: ... that Shuah Khan was the first woman fellow of the Linux Foundation and "signed off" on a patch recommending inclusive terminology in the Linux kernel?
- Sources: https://www.zdnet.com/article/shuah-khan-becomes-the-third-linux-foundation-fellow/ + https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/7/7/9
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ontology
paul2520 💬 13:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review. Just noting that you could use the new image for a hook image if you like. Bremps... 07:02, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: I added the photo to the DYK template as per the suggestion above. The QPQ was done by nominator paul2520. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Soviet atrocities committed against prisoners of war during World War II
- ... that during World War II, Soviet atrocities against prisoners of war included the murder of tens of thousands of Polish and hundreds of thousands of Axis (mostly German) soldiers? Source: https://www.google.co.kr/books/edition/From_Incarceration_to_Repatriation/8t3zEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Overmans+German+POWs+death+toll+million&pg=PA2&printsec=frontcover and https://books.google.com/books?id=PZXvUuvfv-oC&dq=Soviet+invasion+of+Poland+1939&pg=PA20 , among others
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:15, 24 October 2024 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
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Overall: Looks great! Very good work, thank you. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:38, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm concerned about fundamental issues with POV and NOR with this article, please see my comment on talk. In terms of the hook, although "murder" is probably an appropriate word when dealing with the (unsanctioned) executions of enemy combatants by Soviet forces, it's not clear whether it's appropriate to describe the high mortality rate caused largely by the dire humanitarian situation in the Soviet Union (which also caused the deaths of many Soviet civilians in this same era). Hooks are expected to be neutral, but this one is one-sided. Multiple sources are cited and it's unclear where the comparison cited in the hook is made, or whether it's a calculation by Wikipedia editors. Overall I would not pass this DYK. (t · c) buidhe 06:34, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
1939 Liechtenstein general election
- ... that in the 1939 Liechtenstein general election, no actual voting took place?
TheBritinator (talk) 15:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Always nice to see small countries like Liechtenstein get decent coverage. Article looks good as a newly-promoted GA. AGF on the hook source. Appears good to go! BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 25
[edit]Every Night (Hannah Diamond song)
- ... that "Every Night", released ten years ago today, was called "the smartest dumb music out there"?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marcia Moore (actress)
- Comment: For November 24, 2024, if possible.
Skyshiftertalk 19:34, 27 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Great hook! Might be a good candidate for the last/quirky hook. Article is well-sourced with online references; I verified the claim in the hook. Prose is neutral and well-worded; Earwig shows no copyvio. If I had to offer a minor critique, there's a bit of redundancy in the first paragraph of the Composition section: described
is used twice in a row, then compared
three times, and said
two times after that, to attribute critic opinions. Perhaps the word choice could be varied a bit (eg using "called it", "labeled it", or "noted its production was similar to"). Nonetheless, the article is certainly DYK level already even without those edits! Frostly (talk) 07:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Interstate 59 in Alabama
- ... that in 2018, the I-59 and I-65 interchange in Birmingham, Alabama (Malfunction Junction) carried 160,000 vehicles instead of 80,000 as it was intended to hold?
- Reviewed:
NoobThreePointOh (talk) 13:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
- Length, date, hook ok. No QPQ needed. Close paraphrase not found. Ideally "Malfunction Junction" should carry quotation marks. --Soman (talk) 10:01, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Soman. I've added quotation marks to the title of that paragraph in the article. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 18:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Boxheim Documents
- ... that in 1931, Werner Best drafted for the Nazi Party the plans for a coup?
- Source: Press and Politics in the Weimar Republic. OUP Oxford. pp. 186–187.
- ALT1: ... that under a Nazi plan for a coup, Jews were to be deprived of food rations? Source: https://www.jta.org/archive/jews-to-be-starved-out-if-hitlerists-come-to-power-boxheim-documents-were-authentic-official-statem
- Reviewed:
Jean Po (talk) 15:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
- The article was made on the 25th, so is new enough. At many times the required length, it is long enough. The article reads neutrally and properly uses in-line citations. The copyvio detector finds nothing outside of explicit quotes in the article. Both hooks are interesting and cited in-line and utilized properly from the listed sources. The suggested image is in the public domain and visibly identifiable. No QPQ needs to be done. Looks good to go! SilverserenC 01:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Lily Golden
- ... that Soviet academic Lily Golden, born to an interracial couple from the United States but unable to return there due to racism, finally reunited with her relatives there in the 1980s? Source: Bertha Golden and Lily had planned to return to United States, but due to World War II and Bertha’s lingering fears of racism in the United States, they never left Uzbekistan. + "I am very happy, not only because this is the first time I met some of the Goldens and Bialeks, but because I think this is very historical for blacks and Jews to meet like this," said Golden
- ALT1: ... that Soviet academic Lily Golden researched Abkhazians of African descent and contemporary Black music despite her academic research being ideologically controlled? Source: Every effort was made to direct Golden's scholarship into proper ideological channels and to frustrate her dissertation on the cultural contributions of African music ... she found avenues and loopholes by which she could conduct independent research on the little-known native black population of Abkhazia as well as on officially disapproved forms of modern black music.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chiu Yuh-chuan
- Comments: While someone else moved this to mainspace, it was only because I submitted it myself in AFC, so I'm naming myself as the mover.
ミラP@Miraclepine 18:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: This does have promise. It's new, of sufficient length, neutral, and well-sourced without plagiarism. However, I do feel the hooks could be rewritten to be clearer and more concise to be more interesting to a broad audience. Lazman321 (talk) 21:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Lazman321: I added what should be enough clarity, but this is the clearest and shortest I could do without losing their hookiness.
- ALT0A: ... that Soviet academic Lily Golden, born to an interracial couple from the United States, finally reunited with her relatives there decades after being unable to return due to racism? Source: Same as ALT0
- ALT0B: ... that academic Lily Golden, born to an American interracial couple, finally reunited with her American relatives decades after being unable to leave the Soviet Union due to racism? Source: Same as ALT0
- ALT1A: ... that Lily Golden researched "officially disapproved" genres of contemporary Black music despite ideological restrictions to her research in the Soviet Union? Source: Same as ALT1
- ALT1B: ... that Lily Golden researched contemporary Black music despite ideological restrictions to her research in the Soviet Union? Source: Same as ALT1
- ALT1C: ... that Soviet academic Lily Golden researched "officially disapproved" genres of contemporary Black music despite ideological restrictions to her research? Source: Same as ALT1
- ALT1D: ... that Soviet academic Lily Golden researched contemporary Black music despite ideological restrictions to her research? Source: Same as ALT1
- Hope that help, ミラP@Miraclepine 23:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'm in favor of ALT0B and ALT1C. Lazman321 (talk) 01:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Light Vessel 95
- ... that Light Vessel 95 is now a recording studio?
- Source: "A stunning lightship called Lightship 95 moored next to the lighthouse since 2013 is now a floating recording studio. Artists including Lana Del Ray, Ed Sheeran, and Bastille have recorded here." from: Elvery, Martin (19 March 2023). "London's 'forgotten' lighthouse where one song will play on repeat until 2999". My London. Retrieved 22 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Ed Sheeran, Lana Del Ray and Bastille have all recorded aboard Light Vessel 95? Source: as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/National Gingerbread House Competition
Dumelow (talk) 20:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks great, both hooks equally interesting in my book. ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 21:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Symonds St Public Conveniences and Former Tram Shelter
- ... that the first standalone women's toilets (pictured) in Auckland, New Zealand, were converted into being a male-only facility during the Second World War?
- Reviewed:
TarnishedPathtalk 14:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
- TarnishedPath Article looks good and no copyvios. QPQ not needed. Image free. Although the hook should be changed to "Auckland, New Zealand," to comply with MOS:GEOLINK. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:46, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Panamitsu, I've made the change to the hook. TarnishedPathtalk 23:39, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Herbert Smith (mineralogist)
- ... that in 1927, museum administrator Herbert Smith hired a special train so that civil servants could watch a total solar eclipse in North Yorkshire?
- Source: [20] ‘he arranged a special train to take members (of the society of civil servants) and other civil servants to Richmond, Yorkshire, to view the total eclipse of the sun in 1927’
- ALT1: ... that gemmologist Herbert Smith had two minerals and a wallaby named after him? Source: Sources – herbertsmithite [21] 'named for GF Herbert Smith' smithite - [22] 'named for G F Herbert Smith] Herbert’s rock-wallaby (Petrogale herberti Thomas, O. 1926. On various animals obtained during Capt. Wilkin's expedition in Australia. Annals and Magazine of Natural History 9 17: 627 [June 1926]) ‘named in honour of G.F. Herbert Smith Assistant Secretary of the Museum’ (offline reference)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/E-Defense
Chaiten1 (talk) 21:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Chaiten1, review follows: article more than 5x expanded from 25 October and is well written; sources used are good with inline citations throughout; I didn't pick up any issues with overly close paraphrasing; hooks are interesting and largely check out to sources cited (I don't have access to the wallaby one but it is verifiable elsewhere eg here, the national archives link isn't working for me at the moment but I have supplemented it in the article with the Nature ref you've provided here); a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me. This is a solid traditional encyclopaedia article, really nice to see - Dumelow (talk) 08:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Hotel Marseilles
- ... that some occupants of New York City's Hotel Marseilles had never had a private room before staying there? Source: Helmreich, William B. (July 5, 2017). Against All Odds. Routledge. p. 31
- ALT1: ... that for some Holocaust survivors, their first-ever private room was at New York City's Hotel Marseilles? Source: Helmreich, William B. (July 5, 2017). Against All Odds. Routledge. p. 31
- ALT2: ... that New York City's Hotel Marseilles, once a shelter for Holocaust survivors, later became affordable housing for the elderly? Source: Director, Roger (June 8, 1981). "Budget cuts may give her new life an old ending". New York Daily News. p. 65
- ALT3: ... that New York City's Hotel Marseilles, once home to Sara Roosevelt and Dorothy Parker, later became a refugee shelter and affordable housing for the elderly? Source: Silverstein, Andrew (August 3, 2023). "just like Jewish refugees did after WWII". The Forward
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KIXE-TV
- Comment: I can come up with more hooks later.
Epicgenius (talk) 15:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting building and history, on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Before going for GA perhaps check for repetitions (the building, also). The image is licensed and a great illustration! None of the hooks is impossible. I prefer ALT2, but I think the "later" serves little purpose ;) - The "private rooms" of the first two are said by one writer to be for "some", - that's a bit too weak for my taste. I think "Holocaust" will create more interest than the specific people of ALT3. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 26
[edit]Marina Kondratyeva2
... that when Marina Kondratyeva appeared as Giselle (pictured) with the Bolshoi Ballet at the Metropolitan Opera in 1962, the headline of the New York Times said that she excelled in the title role?Source: [23]- Reviewed: Hotel Marseilles
- Comment: there was a previous failed nom
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- A new hook will probably be needed here as the current hook probably does not meet WP:DYKINT. The rationale is the same as the previous nomination: the hook is too complicated, has too many details, and is not a spectacular hook. My suggestion would probably to re-propose ALT1 and ALT4 from the original nomination due to meeting the guidelines better (much more direct to the point, thus meeting WP:DYKTRIM). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- How about leaving the review to someone else? Perhaps not everybody will agree with you about being mentioned in a headline of the NYT, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:47, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- The issue is that the hook does arguably fail both DYKINT and DYKTRIM. Yes the NYT is prestigious, but a hook about a person being praised for doing their job doesn't really work as a hooky hook. It would be like having a hook on DYK saying "DYK that Lionel Messi was praised in the press for his performance during the World Cup final?" Yes a good accomplishment, but not necessarily what DYK is looking for. The other, probably more salient point here, is DYKTRIM: the hooks has several details that may distract from the main point of the hook (that she was praised for her role). DYKTRIM states
don't be afraid to trim hooks of extraneous information and clauses.
Even if DYKINT is subjective, DYKTRIM is less so. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)- For example, ALT0 could be simplified to simply "... that a New York Times headline praised Marina Kondratyeva's 1962 performance of Giselle with the Bolshoi Ballet?" Mostly the same idea but a lot shorter per WP:DYKTRIM. I'm still not a fan of that specific angle, but if you really want to go with that one, said wording may meet the guidelines better than the original. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- You are free to improve the hook, and I like the direction, but ALT0 could still play in Moscow, and the appearance of the complete Russian troupe on New York's most prestigious stage during the Cold War, which I found surprising to put it mildly, would be lost. Minor issues: I try to have the bolded subject in front, and not as a possessive, and I feel that "NYT headline" might be too sloppy for the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- I really don't think ALT0 is going to work out or meet the guidelines, so I've struck it. I'm reproposing two of the hooks from the previous nomination below and offering them as options:
ALT0a that a New York Times headline praised Marina Kondratyeva's (pictured) 1962 performance of Giselle with the Bolshoi Ballet?- ALT1 ... that ballerina Marina Kondratyeva (pictured) was said to be "weightless, airy, poetic and spiritual"?
- ALT2 ... that ballerina Marina Kondratyeva (pictured) served the Bolshoi Ballet and its school for over 70 years?
- Is this okay with you, as a compromise? The choice in hook could be left to a different reviewer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:11, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- You didn't answer my question: How about leaving the review to someone else? Remember? ALT0a: there's still no clue that this played in New York City (not Moscow), and not she is pictured, but she in the role. ALT1: That she appears as weightless and airy is well captured in the image, - no need to say it in quoted words. That she is a ballerina is also clearly visible. ALT2: The sheer length of time served doesn't say a word about that she was top both dancing and training, let alone being the chosen one for a U.S. tour.
ALT0b: ... that when Marina Kondratyeva appeared as Giselle (pictured) with the Bolshoi Ballet at the Metropolitan Opera in 1962, she was praised in the headline of the New York Times?ALT0c: ... that when Marina Kondratyeva appeared with the Bolshoi Ballet at the Metropolitan Opera in 1962, the headline of the New York Times said that she excelled as Giselle (pictured)?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 27 October 2024 (UTC)- The issue is WP:DYKTRIM and the hooks you proposed arguably do not meet it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:29, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- To answer your question directly: I already offered to let someone else review the nomination if you agreed to ALT0a, since it met DYKTRIM. Given I technically proposed ALT1 and ALT2, I couldn't have reviewed the nomination anyway (nor can Storye book since those were originally her proposals). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:31, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Floq, what do you think? I pinged you before to just take notice, but since, N. struck two more hooks that I believe are concise enough, and trimming further would reduce information. We claim "did you know", - saying that a ballerina was described as weightless is not passing knowledge, nor that someone served a notable organization for 70 years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- With the caveats that (a) I'm not terribly familiar with the social mores of DYK, and (b) I'm responding to a ping, so I'm not uninvolved:
- If I recall correctly, NLH brought GA to ANI because they felt GA's blurbs were routinely too long and not interesting. And received really strong negative feeback for doing so. It seems suboptimal for NLH to continue to review GA's blurbs and complain they are too long and not interesting. Surely there are enough reviewers for someone else to review?
- Interesting, in particular, is in the eye of the beholder, and NLH received feedback that their eye does not seem to match the overall DYK community.
- It appears a hook should be around 150-160 characters, with an absolute max of 200. This one is 163 or 195 (not sure if you folks count spaces). That seems within range if DYK typically doesn't count spaces, and maybe in need of a trim if DYK usually does.
- Since I'm semi-involved, I won't try to propose a shorter hook myself. The current one doesn't seem confusing, though, which I would think is more important than simple length.
- There might be other things I'm not aware of, so if I've ignored something the DYK community considers important, take this with a grain of salt.
- --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Floquenbeam, I believe that NLH was at ANI to ask for sanctions against Gerda, not to receive feedback on the hooks themselves. I remember a couple of times Gerda has asked at WT:DYK for opinions on "interestingness" of the hooks she favours—the response, I believe, can fairly be characterised as "uniformly negative". This discussion was the first to come to mind. On the other points, I agree with the first, disagree for the third—as short as possible is best, most are around 100—and am neutral on the fourth. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Floquenbeam, Unfortunately, Gerda is a challenging editor to work with productively at DYK review. She has a reputation at DYK for not receiving feedback well and exhibiting WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT and WP:BLUDGEONING behavior. She also has a reputation for proposing hooks that are too wordy, read awkwardly, and are crammed full of too many facts. She will often argue with reviewers when they have clearly communicated why her hooks fail DYK criteria. Unfortunately, these conversations have not exhibited a change in the type of hooks Gerda chooses to propose, and her nominations tend to have repeating points of conflict. I personally think some sort of forced agreement/sanction that Gerda will not argue with reviewers when they reject a hook for being too wordy, boring, and poorly constructed is not unreasonable under the circumstances.4meter4 (talk) 01:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Floquenbeam, I believe that NLH was at ANI to ask for sanctions against Gerda, not to receive feedback on the hooks themselves. I remember a couple of times Gerda has asked at WT:DYK for opinions on "interestingness" of the hooks she favours—the response, I believe, can fairly be characterised as "uniformly negative". This discussion was the first to come to mind. On the other points, I agree with the first, disagree for the third—as short as possible is best, most are around 100—and am neutral on the fourth. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- With the caveats that (a) I'm not terribly familiar with the social mores of DYK, and (b) I'm responding to a ping, so I'm not uninvolved:
- Floq, what do you think? I pinged you before to just take notice, but since, N. struck two more hooks that I believe are concise enough, and trimming further would reduce information. We claim "did you know", - saying that a ballerina was described as weightless is not passing knowledge, nor that someone served a notable organization for 70 years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- I really don't think ALT0 is going to work out or meet the guidelines, so I've struck it. I'm reproposing two of the hooks from the previous nomination below and offering them as options:
- You are free to improve the hook, and I like the direction, but ALT0 could still play in Moscow, and the appearance of the complete Russian troupe on New York's most prestigious stage during the Cold War, which I found surprising to put it mildly, would be lost. Minor issues: I try to have the bolded subject in front, and not as a possessive, and I feel that "NYT headline" might be too sloppy for the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- For example, ALT0 could be simplified to simply "... that a New York Times headline praised Marina Kondratyeva's 1962 performance of Giselle with the Bolshoi Ballet?" Mostly the same idea but a lot shorter per WP:DYKTRIM. I'm still not a fan of that specific angle, but if you really want to go with that one, said wording may meet the guidelines better than the original. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- The issue is that the hook does arguably fail both DYKINT and DYKTRIM. Yes the NYT is prestigious, but a hook about a person being praised for doing their job doesn't really work as a hooky hook. It would be like having a hook on DYK saying "DYK that Lionel Messi was praised in the press for his performance during the World Cup final?" Yes a good accomplishment, but not necessarily what DYK is looking for. The other, probably more salient point here, is DYKTRIM: the hooks has several details that may distract from the main point of the hook (that she was praised for her role). DYKTRIM states
Not that it belongs here, but once you raised the topic: as far as I recall, that was the only time I began a poll. In the end, we had a hook that wasn't too far off from the original proposal, and I would like to know how to avoid the enormous waste of time and the friction between editors. Without a poll, we had a similar story for Maryvonne Le Dizès: after a long time of discussion, the hook was almost exactly as the one initially proposed, and there was not only interest for her but also her ensemble. I proposed a similar hook in German, the discussion was much shorter, contained the same scepticism because the ensemble with the French name would not be known (and it is not linked in German, they only link the subject), and still: a hook mentioning the ensemble was chosen, and she and even the ensemble found interest. What I like in the German system is that there's a position where several users can propose hooks, and another where several can simply leave support or oppose for the nomination, and a third where hooks are discussed. More neutral than our system of one reviewer and their personal preferences. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:15, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Given that the recurring issues with your hooks largely revolve around WP:DYKINT (hooks that rely too much on specialist information like knowledge of classical music that not all readers have), and WP:DYKTRIM (hooks that are too long and complicated, or feature too many clauses and information), to avoid excessive friction between you and reviewers/other editors, my suggestion would be to follow the advice of editors like 4meter4 or CurryTime7-24 and focus on proposing hooks that appeal to broad audiences as opposed to only classical music fans.
- Much of the friction is the result of opposition to your hooks on interestingness and/or wording grounds, so proposing hooks with those in mind from the start would greatly help in avoiding friction and ensuring quick reviews. Even if this may occasionally mean hooks that focus more about their personal life rather than their career, this does mean that more readers are more likely to read the article where they can learn more about the subject's career. In addition, a willingness to compromise, including making concessions or even accepting hooks different from what you want, would go a long way.
- I understand your hook style and you really want to highlight these careers or "what's unique to them", but it's clear that this hook format generally doesn't work out and leads to these discussions that are often longer than the actual articles themselves. So my suggestion, again, as painful as it may be to you personally, would be to avoid such hook formats and go with the style of 4meter4 or CurryTime. In addition, if the article truly does not have anything usable, there is no shame in simply not nominating it for DYK at all: not all articles are good fits for DYK, and that's okay. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:26, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Approving Alt1 and Alt2 only. Promoter may pick one at their discretion. I'm reviewing because I was pinged, and because Narutolovehinata5 wrote the approved alts and cannot approve them himself. I agree the original hook and the ALT0a hook are awkward to read, and boring and fail DYK's criteria for hooks. It just doesn't work name dropping The New York Times without quoting the paper's review in some fashion, and there just isn't room for that in the hook. Alt1 and Alt2 are both more interesting hooks and I support approving one of those over the other hook. Both are reasonably interesting (I particularly like the quote which would make me want to read the article), and both hooks are cited to reliable sources. Nice work Gerda on this article. Best.4meter4 (talk) 01:16, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @4meter4: To clarify, they weren't my hooks. They were proposed by Storye book in the previous nomination, I just simply reproposed them for this new nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:49, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt, I think the text on The New York Times review needs to be tweaked. The current text is not accurate and is misleading. The article doesn't say Marina Kondratyeva specifically danced with "poise and authority". That quote was targeted at the entire Bolshoi company (ie all the dancers), not just Kondratyeva. The current text makes its seems like the quote was about her dancing specifically which is not true. It does say that she excels in the role of Giselle.4meter4 (talk) 03:20, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I changed the text. Can't see the article - someone who can may expand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:46, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I hope that the image will make it, in which case saying "ballerina" is pretty redundant. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:46, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- There's a pattern with these nominations that comes to mind: after all the back-and-forth, the push and pull on the same exact talking points, there's always a last-breath cowboy approval of one or two hooks in the nomination. Maybe it's a sunk cost fallacy of all the time and energy put into the nomination already, because I've never seen one of those hooks actually go on to perform well on the Main Page. Look at Maryvonne Le Dizes, how long it took to pick a hook that flopped hard. I don't wanna see the same thing happen here. ALT1 and ALT2 are variations on the same ideas we've tried any number of times, and my read of the stats pages is that our readership doesn't care about them. I don't think they should be approved. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:33, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe that if the picture is provided, words don't matter much. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:46, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- The grainy one with terrible lighting where her face is doubled? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 10:09, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- The one that shows her artistry at a glance - we talk 1972, and can be happy to have it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:49, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- The grainy one with terrible lighting where her face is doubled? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 10:09, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Respectfully, I don't think either Alt1 or Alt2 are comparable to the previously poorly received hooks written by Gerda. These were not written by Gerda (not that it matters), do not have obscure works in a resume format, or have an awkwardly worded/incorporated quote. Both are perfectly acceptable, are reasonably interesting, and were authored by longtime DYK contributor Storye book who suggested them at the previous failed DYK nomination where they were not rejected by a prior reviewer. (The article had sourcing problems which is why it failed in the past.) Clearly, NTH thinks they are fine as well, or he would not have transferred them to the nomination page. That makes three DYK editors who did not nominate or write the article who approve of these hooks.4meter4 (talk) 18:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe that if the picture is provided, words don't matter much. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:46, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt, I think the text on The New York Times review needs to be tweaked. The current text is not accurate and is misleading. The article doesn't say Marina Kondratyeva specifically danced with "poise and authority". That quote was targeted at the entire Bolshoi company (ie all the dancers), not just Kondratyeva. The current text makes its seems like the quote was about her dancing specifically which is not true. It does say that she excels in the role of Giselle.4meter4 (talk) 03:20, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @4meter4: To clarify, they weren't my hooks. They were proposed by Storye book in the previous nomination, I just simply reproposed them for this new nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:49, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Minor issue was fixed. Approving Alt1 and Alt2 only per above.4meter4 (talk) 18:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Alan Rosen (restaurant owner)
- ... that Alan Rosen once sold 2,400 cheesecakes in four minutes to television shoppers?
- Source: February 19, 1997, New York Times article: "And last year, Junior's signed a contract with QVC, the television shopping network.... After winning a contest to appear on a showcase of New York State products, Alan Rosen stood before the grandeur of Niagara Falls in September and sold 2,400 cheesecakes... in four minutes to television shoppers wielding credit cards. He returned to the network a few weeks later and sold 7,100 in less than an hour."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Crystal (tabloid)
- Comment: Nominating this on behalf of an IP editor who has, as usual, provided the QPQ. I shall say that I see a rather viable hook in the gun buy-back scheme, too.
Schwede66 03:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
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Articles created/expanded on October 27
[edit]Chiu Yuh-chuan
- ... that future Olympic weightlifter Chiu Yuh-chuan received a job offer in marketing after media coverage about his difficulty securing employment?
- Source: "舉重國手邱毓川失業 北市一公司願提供工作機會" [Weightlifting Champion Chiu Yuh-chuan Unemployed: A Company in Taipei Offers Job Opportunity]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). 1984-07-11. p. 10.
The above source was published on 11 July 1984. Chiu Yuh-chuan competed in the 1984 Summer Olympics, which took place between 28 July and 12 August 1984. The article notes:
From Google Translate:屏東縣唯一入選一九八四年奧運國家代表隊的舉重國手邱毓川,五次打破全國紀錄獲頒多面中正體育獎章,但自省立體專畢業迄今一年多卻苦於一職難求,經報導後,台北市慶宜股份有限公司深表同情,昨日特打長途電話到本報屏東採訪辦事處,表示願主動提供工作機會,解決邱毓川就職問題,熱忱感人。
台北市慶宜貿易有限公司進口科長李聰哲在電話中表示,該公司經營多種商品貿易,為一頗具規模公司,因閱報獲知舉重國手邱毓川一職難求困境,基於為國家培育選手立場,願提供推廣企劃工作機會,除每月待遇一萬八千元左右外,并有業績獎金制度,只要邱毓川願意屈就,該公司竭誠歡迎。
Chiu Yuh-chuan, the only national weightlifter from Pingtung County to be selected for the 1984 Olympics national team, broke national records five times and was awarded multiple Chiang Kai-shek Sports Medals. However, it has been more than a year since he graduated from the provincial three-dimensional college and he has been struggling to find a job. After reports, Taipei City Qingyi Co., Ltd. expresses its deep sympathy. Yesterday, it made a long-distance call to the Pingtung office of this newspaper to interview and expressed its willingness to proactively provide job opportunities to solve Chiu Yuh-chuan's employment problem. The enthusiasm was touching.
Li Congzhe, the import section chief of Taipei City Qingyi Trading Co., Ltd., said on the phone that the company is engaged in the trade of a variety of commodities and is a large-scale company. After reading the newspaper, he learned that the national weightlifter Chiu Yuh-chuan was in a difficult position. Based on the stance of cultivating athletes for the country, The company is willing to provide marketing and planning work opportunities. In addition to a monthly salary of about 18,000 yuan, there is also a performance bonus system. As long as Chiu Yuh-chuan is willing to give in, the company wholeheartedly welcomes him.
Cunard (talk) 07:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 14:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Expanded day before DYK, from 138 to 5600, and article is up to snuff. All the sources but SR are offline so I'll AGF; that reminds me... Cunard, kudos to you for expanding a PRODed stub with sourcing that can't be reached easily. I recommend fixing the lede by blending in the info about his Olympic career so that it looks less like the cookie-cutter stub it originally was or adding an ALT1 showing that he was still looking for work post-Olympics even after the pre-Olympics job offer, but consider this optional. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:08, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Amalric of Nesle
- ... that Patriarch Amalric was snubbed at the royal court because of his role in a royal divorce (pictured)?
- Source: Hamilton (1980) p. 76
- ALT1: ... that Patriarch Amalric was, according to the archbishop of Tyre, "reasonably well educated but bereft of intelligence and virtually useless"? Source: Hamilton (1980) p. 78
- ALT2: ... that "no other Latin patriarch had ruled for so long" as Amalric of Nesle and yet "no other had made so little contribution"? Source: Hamilton (1980) p. 78
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The United States of America (album)
Surtsicna (talk) 22:44, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Surtsicna, review follows: article well in excess of 5x expanded from 27 October; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable offline sources; happy to AGF there are no copyright violations from these sources, the Earwig check is fine; hooks check out to the source cited (from Google Preview at least), for ALT0 I have amended "divorce" to "annulment of a royal marriage" as there is a difference; a QPQ has been carried out. Image needs a US PD copyright tag but is undoubtedly in the public domain, if you can address this and check you are happy with the amendment to ALT0 I should be able to approve - Dumelow (talk) 08:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Tag added! I am not quite happy with the amendment, Dumelow, because it does not flow or catch attention nearly as well as "royal divorce"; and while divorce and annulment are different things in modern law, in the Middle Ages the annulment was the divorce, and indeed historians of the Middle Ages use the terms interchangeably, "divorce" even more commonly. See the source for this hook, for example. Surtsicna (talk) 18:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Surtsicna. Fair enough, thanks for the explanation. I have returned ALT0 to its original wording and am happy to leave the final decision up to the promoter - Dumelow (talk) 19:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Tag added! I am not quite happy with the amendment, Dumelow, because it does not flow or catch attention nearly as well as "royal divorce"; and while divorce and annulment are different things in modern law, in the Middle Ages the annulment was the divorce, and indeed historians of the Middle Ages use the terms interchangeably, "divorce" even more commonly. See the source for this hook, for example. Surtsicna (talk) 18:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Edmonds (brand)
- ... that during World War II, housewives were encouraged to keep Edmonds baking powder tins to be used as bombs in case New Zealand was invaded?
- Source: https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/350013000/edmonds-rise-and-fall-family-factory "During World War II, the Home Guard advised housewives to keep baking powder tins as they could be repurposed as bombs in case of invasion."
―Panamitsu (talk) 23:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Panamitsu, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 27 October and exceeds minimum length; sources used look to be reliable for the content cited and inline citations are used throughout; I didn't pick up any issues with overly close paraphrasing in a spot check; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 08:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Zhou Houkun
- ... that Zhou Houkun (pictured) wrote a thesis on the use of bamboo to reinforce concrete?
- Source: [24]
Kimikel (talk) 00:15, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 05:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
The Crystal (tabloid)
- ... that The Crystal was one of few publications in early 20th-century China to regularly cover same-sex intimacy?
- Source: Kang, Wenqing (2006). Male Same-Sex Relations in China, 1900–1950 (PhD thesis). University of California, Santa Cruz. p. 169. ProQuest 305350088. "In China during the first half of the twentieth century, many newspapers circulated in big cities, but only Crystal in Shanghai and Heavenly Wind in Tianjin regularly had discussions and stories about same-sex relations. "
- ALT1: ... that The Crystal contained regular coverage of Shanghai's courtesans? Source: Hershatter, Gail (1999). Dangerous Pleasures: Prostitution and Modernity in Twentieth-Century Shanghai. Berkeley: University of California Press. p. 17. ISBN 978-0-520-20439-3. "Perhaps the most famous of the tabloids was Crystal (in Chinese, jingbao), published every three days beginning in 1919 for more than two decades. Crystal overlapped with the guidebooks in content, but devoted a great deal of column space to tracking relationships between courtesans and the city’s elite, as well as personality quirks and quarrels among courtesans, business successes or reversals, reminiscences about famous courtesans of earlier times, and lists of courtesan-house names and phone numbers."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tore Skeie
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: On good faith. As this contains sources not accessible by internet. 184.153.21.19 (talk) 02:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 28
[edit]Nocturna (band)
- ... that as a result of the COVID-19 lockdowns in Italy, the members of Nocturna met for the first time while recording their debut album?
- Source: Stillnight, Rehn (January 2022). "Nocturna" (Interview). Interviewed by Jeffrey. Metalfan. Retrieved October 28, 2024.
Cambalachero (talk) 16:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The "Members" section and the beginning of "Discography" should have inline citations. Can you please pull a quote saying they first met because of Covid? I'm not seeing it in the source. Ergo Sum 16:59, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- There's no need to reference discographies or line-ups, it is presumed that the band's album itself is an acceptable source for such trivial and non-controversial info. See WP:PRIMARY. As for the hook, my translated view of the page says "The band was formed during the lockdown, so we worked remotely at first. Everyone recorded their own demo and sent it to the others. We met for the first time in the studio." Perhaps you missed it because there's a "How did Nocturna come about?" question, which does not mention this, and you did not realize that the topic would come up again later. Cambalachero (talk) 18:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, both check out. Ergo Sum 16:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- There's no need to reference discographies or line-ups, it is presumed that the band's album itself is an acceptable source for such trivial and non-controversial info. See WP:PRIMARY. As for the hook, my translated view of the page says "The band was formed during the lockdown, so we worked remotely at first. Everyone recorded their own demo and sent it to the others. We met for the first time in the studio." Perhaps you missed it because there's a "How did Nocturna come about?" question, which does not mention this, and you did not realize that the topic would come up again later. Cambalachero (talk) 18:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Trilobite Wilderness
- ... that the Trilobite Wilderness is so rich in trilobite fossils that in places virtually every rock contains a fossil?
- Source: "Latham Shale - California Dreamin'". American Museum of Natural History. Archived from the original on 14 April 2024.
- ALT1: ... that parts of the Mojave Desert are so rich in trilobite fossils that the Trilobite Wilderness was named after them? Source: "Trilobite Wilderness | Bureau of Land Management". www.blm.gov. Retrieved 2024-10-28.
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- Comment: I recently created this article and I think the whimsical name and paleontological significance make it a good contender for a DYK
Blervis (talk) 04:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
- This is a newly created article, which is well referenced, long enough and passes copyvio. The hooks check out; ALT0 is intriguing, to the point and validated by the source (AMNH). QPQ is not required. The image is appropriate and has the correct permissions. This is a nice self-contained page, and I shall add it my bucket list of places to visit! Chaiten1 (talk) 15:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
KEXC
- ... that a San Francisco–area radio station sometimes had to be quiet to not disturb patients of a nearby dentist's office? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-san-francisco-examiner-kjaz/138078436/
- ALT1: ... that a San Francisco–area radio station was almost bought by a front company for Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/oakland-tribune-sf-firm-tried-to-buy-k/138077322/
- ALT2: ... that a San Francisco–area radio station charged one of its competitors with vandalizing its studios and following its employees around? Source: http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/fighting-the-power/Content?oid=1075454&showFullText=true
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hixtape: Vol. 3: Difftape
- Comment: This station is chock-full of potential hooks!
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hooks are interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Great work!! Thriley (talk) 20:01, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Nayib Bukele
- ... that during the presidency of Nayib Bukele (pictured), El Salvador became the first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender?
- Source: Pérez, Santiago; Ostroff, Caitlin (7 September 2021). "El Salvador Becomes First Country to Adopt Bitcoin as National Currency". The Wall Street Journal. San Salvador, El Salvador.
- ALT1: ... that Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele (pictured) has referred to himself as the "coolest dictator in the world" on Twitter? Source: Youkee, Mat (26 September 2021). "Nayib Bukele Calls Himself the 'World's Coolest Dictator' – But Is He Joking?". The Guardian. San Salvador, El Salvador. ISSN 0029-7712.
- ALT2: ... that Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele (pictured) is of Palestinian descent? Source: Ahren, Raphael (7 February 2019). "His Dad was an Imam, His Wife has Jewish Roots: Meet El Salvador's New Leader". The Times of Israel.
- ALT3: ... that Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele (pictured) supports reunifying Central America? Source: "Nayib Bukele: "Centroamérica Debería Ser Un Solo País"" [Nayib Bukele: "Central America Should Be One Single Country"]. Contra Punto (in Spanish). 4 January 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Francis L. Sampson
PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 09:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- That's quite the GA – good job. Review to come. charlotte 👸♥ 05:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominated the day it was GAed, certainly long enough, copyvio checks return fine. All hooks are cited and interesting (Times of Israel is no consensus, but probably fine for this info), although I think ALT1 is the most interesting. Image has VRT and QPQ done. charlotte 👸♥ 20:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Wu Tsai-fu
- ... that the weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu was unable to generate urine for a drug test so drank six huge glasses of beer to help him urinate?
- Source: "世界杯舉重賽花絮 吳再富灌酒逼尿 大醉一場" [Highlights from the Weightlifting World Cup: Wu Tsai-fu Forced to Drink Beer to Urinate, Ends Up Drunk]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). 1991-10-05. p. 2.
The article notes:
From a translation:驗尿也會酒醉?信不信由你,這次世界杯,只要成績還可以,尤其是男選手,一達到明年巴塞隆納奧運選拔標準,鐵定被「點名」接受禁藥測試,採取的方法就是「驗尿」。
中華隊第4級選手吳再富,出賽當天挺舉未完,就被通知驗尿,不知是緊張?還是排汗旺盛,怎麼尿也尿不出來,無法交差。
最後逼得沒辦法,只有強灌啤酒,向來不喝酒的吳再富這下可吃足了苦頭,在連續喝下6大杯後才排尿,大功告成之餘,他人也醉了,必須勞動隊友攙扶,才能回到選手村。
Can you be drunk during a urine test? Believe it or not, at this World Cup, as long as the performance is acceptable—especially for male athletes—if they meet the qualification standards for next year’s Barcelona Olympics, they are guaranteed to be "called in" for drug testing, which involves urine tests.
On the day of the competition, Wu Tsai-fu, a Level 4 athlete from the Chinese team, was notified to take a urine test even before finishing his lifts. Whether it was nerves or excessive sweating, he found himself unable to produce any urine.
In the end, with no other options, he had to resort to drinking beer. Not typically a drinker, Wu suffered significantly, and after downing six large glasses, he finally managed to urinate. However, he ended up drunk and had to rely on teammates to help him back to the athletes' village.
- ALT1: ... that the weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu drank six huge glasses of beer to help himself urinate for a drug test? Source: Same as the first hook.
- ALT2: ... that the weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu set nearly 20 national records? Source: He, Chang-fa 何長發 (1997-07-14). "大雞慢啼 吳再富揚州償宿願" [Late Bloomer: Wu Tsai-fu Fulfills His Dream in Yangzhou]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). p. 2.
The article notes: "吳再富十四歲首次參加舉重賽以來,先後打破全國紀錄將近二十次,但在亞洲大賽奪牌這還是第一次,算是「大雞慢啼」的老選手。"
From a translation: "Wu Tsai-fu has broken national records nearly twenty times since he first participated in a weightlifting competition at the age of fourteen, but this is the first time he has won a medal in an Asian competition, and he can be regarded as a veteran player of "Late Bloomer"."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zhou Houkun
Cunard (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Page was 5x expanded recently enough, is long enough, the hook is interesting and quite funny, and QPQ has been done. I think that ALT1 is preferable because it's more concise. I'm going to AGF on the Chinese sourcing. Overall, seems good! Di (they-them) (talk) 23:22, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note, I have edited ALT1 slightly to fix a grammar mistake, it was "generate urinate" so I changed it to just "urinate". Di (they-them) (talk) 23:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 29
[edit]I Hotel (novel)
- ... that novelist Karen Tei Yamashita realized the structure of her novel, I Hotel, by cutting, folding, and writing on ten cardboard cubes, each representing a year in the book?
- Source: ... so instead she went home and cut out 10 pieces of cardboard, which she scored and folded into cubes: one for each year leading up to the hotel’s destruction. Each cube was inscribed with precise indicators, one per side—a year paired with a world-historical event, a location in the Bay Area paired with a location abroad, a theme, and three characters, composites from her interviews and her imagination.
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Phibeatrice (talk) 01:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi @Phibeatrice: This article, created on 29 October, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral, and presentable. Earwig picked up no copyvio and I didn't see any close paraphrase. QPQ does not need to be done. The hook, which I trimmed a little bit going in, is interesting and cited. The hook might need a little more editing (the phrase "cutting, folding, and writing on ten cardboard cubes" is a little unwieldy, but I'm not sure how to improve it) but, as it is, I think the article is good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:59, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Carrlyn Bathe
- ... that sports broadcaster Carrlyn Bathe started her career as a member of the Los Angeles Kings Ice Crew?
- Source: [25]
- ALT1: ... that Carrlyn Bathe met her husband after he sent her gear from his clothing brand? Source: [26]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jopie Roosenburg-Goudriaan
Kimikel (talk) 04:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
- Will be claiming this for review and hope to get to it soon. Among the two hooks, ALT1 is probably the more unusual or interesting once since it's less reliant on NHL knowledge (and thus specialist knowledge), although I would suggest also putting "sports broadcaster" before her name. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination, and I didn't find any close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been completed. Both hooks are cited inline and verified (I am accepting the use of Facebook and Twitter as the FB link is the official Kings page and the Twitter link is her own, so meets the guidelines at WP:SPS). As mentioned above, the second hook is the better hook as it's less reliant on familiarity with the NHL or ice hockey. Good to go. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Miracle in Motown
- ... that the Miracle in Motown was the first of three successful Hail Mary passes in a span of 13 months thrown by Aaron Rodgers?
- Reviewed: Derrick Harden
« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
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St Francis of Assisi Church, Notting Hill
- ... that in St Francis of Assisi Church, Notting Hill, John Francis Bentley was baptised in the same font that he himself designed?
- Source: Notting Hill - St Francis of Assisi from Taking Stock, Historic England.
Cardofk (talk) 17:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
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Articles created/expanded on October 30
[edit]Boise Pro Soccer
- ... that a new soccer team in Boise, Idaho, plans to play at a converted horse racing track? Source: Idaho Press
- Reviewed: History of Key West
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Piri Reis
- ... that there was limited appreciation for Piri Reis' cartography during his own life?
- Source: Soucek, Svat (2013). "His uniqueness among cartographers and hydrographers of the Renaissance". Cartes & Géomatique. No. 216. pp. 135–144.
Arrested by the Ottoman governor of Egypt, Piri Reis was executed in 1553 in compliance with an order issued from the imperial headquarters. The sultan probably never recalled – if in fact he ever noticed it – that the aged mariner had at the time of his enthronement dedicated a book called Kitabı Bahriye to him, and that still earlier he had made a strange map whose mutilated remains lay forgotten in the library of Topkapı Palace. [...] Piri Reis and his work occupy a special place in the framework of the exhibition "L'Age d'or des cartes marines: Quand l'Europe découvrait le monde". They show that although the Ottoman Empire had the potential to participate in the discoveries, its ruling elite spurned the attempt to blaze a trail in this direction made by a representative of a marginal group whose other members too ran into dead ends. [...] Piri Reis ran into a dead end as a cartographer [...]
- ALT1: ... that Piri Reis transported Muslims and Jews from Spain to North Africa during the Granada War?
- Source: Source: McIntosh, Gregory C. (2000a). The Piri Reis Map of 1513. Athens, Georgia: University of Georgia Press. p. 6. ISBN 978-0-82034-359-4. Archived from the original on 2022-11-21.
Piri assisted in transporting the Muslim and Jewish population in Granada from Spain to North Africa during the time of the reconquista.
- Source: Source: McIntosh, Gregory C. (2000a). The Piri Reis Map of 1513. Athens, Georgia: University of Georgia Press. p. 6. ISBN 978-0-82034-359-4. Archived from the original on 2022-11-21.
- ALT2: ... that Piri Reis advocated for and took part in Suleiman the Magnificent's 1522 Siege of Rhodes?
- Source: Soucek, Svatopluk (2004). "Navals Aspects of the Ottoman Conquests of Rhodes, Cyprus and Crete". Studia Islamica (98/99): 222. ISSN 0585-5292. JSTOR 20059216.
6. It was one of these gazi-corsairs, Kemal Reis, who suggested repeatedly to Beyazit II that he embark on conquests of potential bases on Rhodes and the Peloponnese, and offered expert advice on how to do it. This was recorded by Kemal Reis's nephew Piri Reis in his Kitab-i bahriye, a book of sailing directions for the Mediterranean compiled in two versions, the first in 1520 and the second in 1526. Advice on how to conquer Rhodes is included, understandably, only in the first version.
- İnan, Afet; Yolaç, Leman (trans.) (1954). The Oldest Map of America, Drawn by Piri Reis. Ankara: Türk Tarih Kurumu Basimevi. p. 14. OCLC 2435662.
Piri's taking part in the Turkish fleet going to the campaign on Rhodes in 1523 is to be regarded as only natural.
- Source: The context in the end-of-paragraph source makes the above more clear → Isom-Verhaaren, Christine (2022). The Sultan's fleet: seafarers of the Ottoman empire (First published ed.). London New York Oxford New Delhi Sydney: I.B. Tauris. p. 101. ISBN 978-0-7556-4173-4.
Also, Kemal Reis or, in actuality, Piri Reis offered this advice to the sultan clearly noting that any plans would be contingent on the sultan's approval. No plan of conquest would be followed unless the sultan was convinced of its feasibility or benefit to the empire. Kemal or Piri also advised against allowing some individuals to consider themselves too important to be required to bring a bag of dirt to help construct a fortress on Kumburnu. Kemal and/or Piri warned against the pretensions of the elite, who considered themselves superior to the men who would be recruited to implement this plan. The conflict between the administrative elite and seafarers echoes throughout this advice.
- Source: Soucek, Svatopluk (2004). "Navals Aspects of the Ottoman Conquests of Rhodes, Cyprus and Crete". Studia Islamica (98/99): 222. ISSN 0585-5292. JSTOR 20059216.
- ALT3: ... that Piri Reis did not map Antarctica in the sixteenth century?
- Source: McIntosh, Gregory C. (2000a). "The Southern Continent". The Piri Reis Map of 1513. Athens, Georgia: University of Georgia Press. pp. 48–68. ISBN 978-0-82034-359-4. p. 68:
When viewed in isolation, the coastline of Terra Australis on the Piri Reis map may superficially appear to resemble the actual coast of Antarctica [...]
- Source: McIntosh, Gregory C. (2000a). "The Southern Continent". The Piri Reis Map of 1513. Athens, Georgia: University of Georgia Press. pp. 48–68. ISBN 978-0-82034-359-4. p. 68:
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Christian Albright
- Comment: There are some photos of sculptures of Piri Reis (like File:Piri reis.jpg) but so far as I know, no likeness was made during his lifetime. ALT3 summarizes the "Legacy" section, but this may be stretching things too much.
- Source: Soucek, Svat (2013). "His uniqueness among cartographers and hydrographers of the Renaissance". Cartes & Géomatique. No. 216. pp. 135–144.
Rjjiii (talk) 06:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
- New GA, very well written and referenced article. Did some minor tweaks, but otherwise it looks fine, QPQ has been done and I see nothing standing in the way of this going forward. From the hooks, ALT3 would be the most interesting, followed in my personal view by ALT1. Question to the nominator, Rjjiii, why not include an image of Piri in the DYK nomination? It would help to ensure greater visibility. Constantine ✍ 19:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cplakidas: the statues, paintings, stamps, currency, and so on with his likeness were all made after his death. If that's not a big deal, I'll add two alternative versions of the preferred hooks below and an image to the DYK.
- ALT1a: ... that Piri Reis (statue pictured) transported Muslims and Jews from Spain to North Africa during the Granada War?
- ALT3a: ... that Piri Reis (statue pictured) did not map Antarctica in the sixteenth century?
- Also, the tweaks are much appreciated, Rjjiii (talk) 02:07, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: Thanks for a very informative article. Both hooks look good, image is in article, and appropriately licensed. Good to go. Constantine ✍ 17:16, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cplakidas: the statues, paintings, stamps, currency, and so on with his likeness were all made after his death. If that's not a big deal, I'll add two alternative versions of the preferred hooks below and an image to the DYK.
Al-Altan
- ... that the Mongol princess Al-Altan was rumoured to have poisoned her brother Ögedei Khan?
- Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 168–169.
- ALT1: ... that although the details of Al-Altan's 1246 execution were censored, an unintentional slip in a chronicle reveals who killed her? Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 187–188.
- ALT2: ... that although Eljigidei was originally rewarded for killing the Mongol princess Al-Altan, he was later hunted down and executed in revenge? Source: For his reward, Broadbridge 2018, pp. 187–188; for his death, pp. 220–221.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diaspora Revolt (2nd nomination)
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
- I will review this nomination. – Editør (talk) 10:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article is new enough (GA passed on 30 October 2024), is long enough (8743 characters of prose), has no copyright violations (per GA review), and is presentable (per GA review and readthrough). The hook is cited to a reliable offline source (accepted in good faith) and interesting. ALT1 is too complicated and ALT2 centers around her executor. QPQ was done. – Editør (talk) 11:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Valse in A minor (Chopin)
- ... that the discovery of a new waltz by Chopin (pictured) has been announced by The New York Times?
Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 11:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
- Note to DYK reviewer: article was moved per talk page discussion ("Title"). I have tried my best to update the templates; there seems to be no need to move this DYK subpage itself. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 13:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- New enough, long enough and well-written. The hook is good and supported by an inline citation to a reliable source (in fact, the rediscovery has been reported quite widely in civilised media). QPQ has been made and copyright tag of the image is fine. There should be no problems. One thing to watch out for before promoting would perhaps be if there are any major updates to the article between the review and the posting, considering it is a bit of a developing story. Nice article, great piece for DYK. Kind regards, Yakikaki (talk) 15:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Regulus (painting)
- ... that a man stabbed the painting Regulus (pictured) because he disliked the "misty state of the picture"?
- Source: * Beaumont, Matthew (2020). "Reason Dazzled: The All-Seeing and the Unseeing in Turner's Regulus". British Art Studies (15). doi:10.17658/issn.2058-5462/issue-15/mbeaumont. ISSN 2058-5462.
ALT1: ... that the painting Regulus (pictured) depicts a Roman general who was blinded by the sun? Source: * Beaumont, Matthew (2020). "Reason Dazzled: The All-Seeing and the Unseeing in Turner's Regulus". British Art Studies (15). doi:10.17658/issn.2058-5462/issue-15/mbeaumont. ISSN 2058-5462.ALT2: ... that J. M. W. Turner repainted Regulus (pictured) by "driving" white paint into the center of the canvas? Source: * Cust, Lionel (1895). "The Portraits of J. M. W. Turner, R.A." The Magazine of Art. Open Court Publishing Co. pp. 245–251.- Reviewed:
CitrusHemlock 13:11, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi CitrusHemlock, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 30 October and far exceeds minimum length; it is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable (largely offline) sources; I didn't pick up on any issues with overly close paraphrasing; image is obviously magnificent and PD by virtue of age; no QPQ is required as nominator has only one prior DYK credit; ALT01 is stated in the article and checks out to source cited. I have struck ALT1 as the article states there is doubt that Regulus himself appears in the piece and ALT2 as the article only says that "Gilbert claims" the driving in of the paint was done. Happy to consider alternative hooks if you want to suggest any? - Dumelow (talk) 14:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: Thanks for reviewing the nom so quickly! I was a bit sloppy with the phrasing of the ALTs, the first could probably be rephraised to "...that the painting Regulus is based on a Roman general who was blinded by the sun?" and the second "...that J. M. W. Turner reportedly repainted Regulus by "driving" white paint into the center of the canvas?" Regardless, the stabbing is the most compelling hook in my opinion, but any of them would work well. CitrusHemlock 17:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 31
[edit]New World Mall
- ... that upon its opening in 2011, New World Mall (pictured) was the largest Asian shopping mall in the Northeastern United States?
- Source: 1
- ALT1: ... that in 2024, New World Mall (pictured) in Flushing, Queens, was raided by the FBI as part of their investigations into the Eric Adams administration? Source: 2
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2024 Kansas City metropolitan area rent strike
Morgan695 (talk) 16:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
Reviewing now...—CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:37, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Interesting and well-sourced article. No copyright problems. It is new and long enough. Both hooks are interesting (I suspect ALT1 may be more timely). Waiting on the QPQ... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: QPQ has been completed. Morgan695 (talk) 15:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: Were there any additional outstanding issues, or is this good to be promoted? Morgan695 (talk) 18:09, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Morgan695: Nothing at all! Thanks for your great work! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: Were there any additional outstanding issues, or is this good to be promoted? Morgan695 (talk) 18:09, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Mountain Landscape
- ... that the painting Mountain Landscape is said to defy photographic reproduction, as its immersive depth and luminosity can only be fully experienced in person?
- Source: Hertzlieb, Gregg (Fall/Winter 2009-2010). "Frederic Edwin Church: Mountain Landscape". Valparaiso Poetry Review. Valparaiso University. XI (1).
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Burrito Express: Template:Did you know nominations/Disputes on Wikipedia; Template:Did you know nominations/It's OK I'm OK
Viriditas (talk) 06:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Hook is interesting, good to go. Sahaib (talk) 23:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Burrito Express
- ... that the founder of Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, styled himself as the "king of the flying burrito"?
- Source: [27]
- ALT1: ... that when Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, was threatened with closure, longtime customers queued for its food in support? Source: [28]
- ALT2: ... that Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, has burritos on its menu named after Lance Ito and Ross Perot? Source: [29]
- ALT3: ... that Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, serves a burrito named after Ross Perot described as having "a little bit of everything, or you can say it's full of it"? Source: Ibid.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/New World Mall
- Comment: Better image to come tomorrow.
CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: You are burying the lede. Why is Burrito Express called the "king of the flying burrito"? Because they used to run a mail order business that shipped frozen burritos across the U.S. That's your best and most interesting hook. But it's not here. Everything else checks out. Pass ALT0 as first choice, followed by ALT2. I do not support ALT3 as it breaches the bright line of contentiousness, and I don't support ALT1 because "threatened with closure" is too ambiguous and makes it seem like there's a negative component to it when it is just the nature of the business environment during COVID, not the quality of their food. Viriditas (talk) 04:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing. I'd appreciate it if you could be more specific as to what the shortcomings are so that I may remedy them. Are you asking me to contextualize ALT0 by mentioning the mail order business? I had thought about it, but was worried it would make the hook too long. If you feel this is necessary, however, please let me know and I will provide a modified hook. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- I was just curious about your response. I'm biased towards a hook that doesn't exist, which really doesn't make any kind of sense, so I passed it. Viriditas (talk) 04:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry—I totally misread your review. You're right, it slipped my mind to make a hook based on their mail order business. Please give me until tomorrow morning (PDT) and I'll have a new hook ready for you! Thanks again. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- You really don't have to do that, but if you insist, you are welcome. I'm happy to pass it right now based on the above. Viriditas (talk) 04:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you for your patience. Been busy recently! A couple more ALTs for your consideration.
- ALT4: ... that Burrito Express' mail order business was so successful, its owner styled himself the "king of the flying burrito"? (Source: [30])
- ALT5: ... that Burrito Express began shipping out its burritos by mail because of demand from former customers who had moved away from California? (Source: Ibid.) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:24, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- I like ALT4, ALT5, followed by ALT0 and ALT2. I will let the prepper decide. Viriditas (talk) 02:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24 and Viriditas: ALT4's the best one, but the source doesn't really say that the style was because of the company's success. In fact, it doesn't even say that the company's successful, although its gross revenue is high. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: I agree with your assessment. Let's go with ALT5, or combine ALT5 and ALT4 as I originally suggested in my review, without the "so successful" bit. In other words: " ... that Burrito Express began shipping burritos by mail due to demand from former customers who had moved, leading the owner to describe himself as the "king of the flying burrito"? Viriditas (talk) 08:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24 and Viriditas: ALT4's the best one, but the source doesn't really say that the style was because of the company's success. In fact, it doesn't even say that the company's successful, although its gross revenue is high. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I like ALT4, ALT5, followed by ALT0 and ALT2. I will let the prepper decide. Viriditas (talk) 02:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
6th National Eucharistic Congress (United States)
- ... that despite a cold rain, twenty-five thousand people participated in the closing procession of the Sixth National Eucharistic Congress in Omaha?
- Source: "25,000 On Knees As Rain Swirls". The Spokesman-Review. Sep 26, 1930. Retrieved 31 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Bishop John Dunn continued to celebrate Mass after a fire broke out in the choir loft of St. Cecilia Cathedral during the Sixth National Eucharistic Congress? Source: "Facts About Great Eucharistic Rally". The Nebraska Register. Oct 5, 1930. Retrieved 30 October 2024.
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- Comment: I can email PDFs of the newspapers.com sources to anyone who'd like to verify them, Special:EmailUser/Darth Stabro
User:Darth Stabro (talk) 00:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
- Correcting a syntax error that led to failure to correctly subst. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:26, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Darth Stabro, have you considered clipping your Newspapers.com citations? See WP:CLIP, my handy guide to do so. Clippings are publicly viewable. I clipped the hook citation: [31]. Since I'm here, this is your fifth nomination and last QPQ-exempt one. The article is new enough and long enough, and the hook fact checks out. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just today I noticed JPxG's Greasemonkey plugin for this at [32] and was going to look into adding it. I'll look at your link as well! Thanks! ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 00:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- PressPass is invaluable and has saved me so, so much time in the last three years. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:58, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I'm having some issued getting it to work on Chrome. Another feather that will eventually push me back to Firefox, probably... manual clipping works for now. I didn't realize that non-subscribers to Newspapers.com could view clips. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 12:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- PressPass is invaluable and has saved me so, so much time in the last three years. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:58, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just today I noticed JPxG's Greasemonkey plugin for this at [32] and was going to look into adding it. I'll look at your link as well! Thanks! ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 00:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 1
[edit]David Hilchen
- ... that David Hilchen played a key role in the establishment of Renaissance humanism in the area of the present-day Baltic states? Source: Viiding 2024, p. 119-120
Yakikaki (talk) 15:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting life and work, on few but fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the interesting short hook! I have a few wishes for the article: 1) give him an infobox, or it looks as if it was an article about a coat of arms, 2) avoid "would" - everything is now past, 3) bring the refs above the cited sources - no idea why German and others have it differently, but in English, that's normal, 4) formal the one source that's not yet among Cited sources like the others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Gerda! I will go through the article and make some of the improvements you suggest, and certainly change the order of refs and cited sourced. I really dislike infoboxes though. Yakikaki (talk) 18:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- ...though upon reflection, in this case you're right, an infobox makes the coat of arms look less awkward. Added. Thanks again Gerda! Yakikaki (talk) 19:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Gerda! I will go through the article and make some of the improvements you suggest, and certainly change the order of refs and cited sourced. I really dislike infoboxes though. Yakikaki (talk) 18:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Arthur France
- ... that Arthur France founded the first West Indian carnival in Europe?
- Source: ref 5 (url:https://lucas.leeds.ac.uk/article/the-leeds-west-indian-carnival-is-fifty) 'The Carnival in Leeds reached its fiftieth consecutive performance in August 2017, proudly maintaining its original title: The Leeds West Indian Carnival (LWIC). It was the first Caribbean-style street carnival in Europe' .. 'Nevis-born Arthur France ... pulled together the committee that created the early carnivals in Leeds'
- ALT1: ... that when Arthur France founded the Leeds West Indian Carnival in 1967, it was the first Caribbean carnival in Europe? Source: same source
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Trilobite Wilderness
Chaiten1 (talk) 20:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new, long enough and neutral. It is sourced with inline citations. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports no crucial text similarities commenting "violation unlikely". Both hooks are well-formatted and interesting.Their length is within limit. They are accurate with reference given inline. QPQ was done. Good to go. CeeGee 10:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Peter Capaldi
- ... that Doctor Who star Peter Capaldi (pictured) was a fan of the series as a child?
- ALT1: ... that Twelfth Doctor actor Peter Capaldi (pictured) was a fan of Doctor Who as child? Source: https://ew.com/article/2014/08/01/once-upon-time-lord/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dune (Kenshi Yonezu song)
Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Might be interesting to note Capaldi's age when he played the Doctor, then! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Light Vessel 93
- ... that Light Vessel 93 (pictured) was converted into a photography studio?
- Source: "A 40-metre-long former lighthouse vessel and celebrity photo studio up for sale in Royal Victoria Dock for £595,000 through Riverhomes." from: Clover, Jack (1 September 2021). "Lighthouse ship that played host to a Bond girl for sale for £595k". The Standard. Retrieved 30 October 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Al-Shaykh Badr
- Comment: Could run as a double-hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95, if desired
Dumelow (talk) 16:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: @Dumelow, nice work on this article. Do you still want to run this as a double hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95, because that nomination has already been reviewed? Epicgenius (talk) 01:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Epicgenius, I am happy for them to run separately. Was just putting the option out there as there is usually a backlog of approved hooks - Dumelow (talk) 09:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- All right, then. My previous approval is unchanged. Epicgenius (talk) 14:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Dune (Kenshi Yonezu song)
- ... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" composed by Kenshi Yonezu has a music video that was viewed over one million times over the span of less than a week on the Japanese video-sharing site NicoNico?
- ALT1: ... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" written by Kenshi Yonezu for Hatsune Miku's 10th anniversary features lyrics about the demise of life? Source: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2017/10/31/music/kenshi-yonezu-hopes-fireworks-new-album-bootleg/
- ALT2: ... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" worked by Kenshi Yonezu is much slower compared to many other Vocaloid songs, at only 95 BPM? Source: https://natalie.mu/music/pp/hachi_ryo/page/3
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ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 09:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
I made a small copy edit but beyond that the content is fine, earwig has less then 10% overlap. QPQ not need congrats on your first DYK! Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- @OlifanofmrTennant: Thanks! But it seems the DYK template not working well? ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 18:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 2
[edit]Oscar Goodman (basketball)
- ... that Oscar Goodman is New Zealand's only global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree since 2002?
TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Covered for newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, is plagiarism-free, and the hook is cited and interesting. QPQ done. Good to go on this one! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- What's a "global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree"? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Goodman has participated in three FIBA sanctioned tournaments. The first was just a regional competition for countries in Oceania. The second was a tournament for countries in Asia (and/including Oceania). The third was for countries around the world. I use the term global to mean a tournament open to worldwide/global contestants. Such tournaments select honorary teams to recognize the best performers in the tournament. These teams are called all-tournament teams and the players chosen are honorees. Sometimes the tournament will select a best five (the first team) and a next best five (the second team).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Amer Ghalib
- ... that Democrat mayor Amer Ghalib endorsed Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election?
Sahaib (talk) 23:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
- I will take this review. Dwkaminski (talk) 12:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Dwkaminski (talk) 12:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Review comments:
- I don't see the support for the statement "A member of the Democratic Party, he worked with what was believed to be the first all-Muslim city council in the United States." in the newsweek reference. It should be referenced to the fox news website. I can't read the NY Times reference but AGF.
- I don't see the support for the statement "Ghalib acknowledged their disagreements on key issues but that he believed that Trump would end the Israel–Hamas war." in the two references given
- Earwig copyvio detector shows 13.0% - violation unlikely
- @Sahaib: Overall very good. Just minor sourcing issues listed above. Please fix and I will approve. Dwkaminski (talk) 13:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dwkaminski: sorry about the sources, a lot were added by another user (see history). The Newsweek source states that he was a member of the Democratic Party whilst the New York Times sources the rest. The Newsweek sources states "acknowledging some disagreements with the former president" and in the New York Times it states that "President Biden’s support of Israel and a belief that Mr. Trump will end the conflict in the Middle East." You can view the source in its archived form. Sahaib (talk) 13:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Sahaib: All good. approved! Dwkaminski (talk) 14:10, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 3
[edit]St John the Evangelist Church, Islington
- ... that Augustus Pugin called St John the Evangelist Church, Islington a "deformity", which was refuted by Joseph Hansom?
- Source: Historic England. "Islington – St John the Evangelist". Taking Stock. Quote: "Pugin castigated the Romanesque Revival building as ‘the most original combination of modern deformity that has been executed for some time past’. In response, the design was defended by Joseph Hansom in The Builder."
- Joseph Hansom. 1 April 1843. "The Present State of Ecclesiastical Architecture in England". The Builder Volume 1, page 98. Quote: "This church, so far from exhibiting the adoption of true Catholic principles, which we have had so much pleasure in describing at Masbro’, is certainly the most original combination of modern deformity that has been erected for some time past for the sacred purpose of a Catholic church," and, "And now, we tell our readers that this new church of Islington, which Mr. Scoles has built, and which Mr. Pugin insists he ought not to have built, and which he has done no little damage to by his strictures, depriving it of the contribution of many whose purses yield more to dictation in such matters than to reason or to judgment; this church of Mr. Scoles is withal a fine and noble church."
- Denis Evinson, Catholic Churches of London, Sheffield: Sheffield Academic Press, 1998, page 140. Quote: "Scoles's neo-Norman design was severely castigated by Pugin in The Dublin review, in which he called for a rebuilding of Islington's mediaeval Gothic church. Joseph Hansom, however, powerfully defended Scoles's church in the pages of The Builder, of which he was then editor, pointing out that Catholicism had other 'beautiful forms, styles and adaptations in store for us."
Cardofk (talk) 21:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Cardofk, nice work on this article. Review follows: article created 3 November and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources (though I usually avoid British Listed Buildings as it is a mirror of the Historic England listing; I didn't pick up on any paraphrasing issues; hook fact is interesting enough for me, mentioned in the article and checks out to sources cited; image is freely licensed; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks good to go - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- One minor thing I had a quick look at the Archdiocese directory page cited and found ti listed the Sunday masses as "Sunday (Sat 6pm), 9.30am, 11am (Sung)" and not the four times you have? One other thing you might consider is adding some background to the "foundation" section on why Catholicism was practised in secret and the timing of the Catholic relief acts, the unknowing reader might otherwise be a little confused how we went from arresting priests to constructing a church - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, very good point, thanks for spotting it, I really should have linked to the Reformation at the beginning. Will do. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- One minor thing I had a quick look at the Archdiocese directory page cited and found ti listed the Sunday masses as "Sunday (Sat 6pm), 9.30am, 11am (Sung)" and not the four times you have? One other thing you might consider is adding some background to the "foundation" section on why Catholicism was practised in secret and the timing of the Catholic relief acts, the unknowing reader might otherwise be a little confused how we went from arresting priests to constructing a church - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Mary Robertson
- ... that Mary Robertson was the first woman to receive a Doctor of Science in Medicine from the University of Cape Town? Source: [1]
- Reviewed:
Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 20:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- article is new enough, long enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is not required. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Robertson entertains her doctors". UCT News. 4 May 2010. Retrieved 3 November 2024.
Abu Sulayman Da'ud
- ... that Arab physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud was recruited by the Latin king of Jerusalem to treat a disabled boy prince, while Abu Sulayman's son taught the prince to ride a horse using only his knees?
- Source: "Abu Sulayman worked for the king for a while, even treating his son Baldwin's leprosy..." Zimo p. 158 "He also engaged Abul’Khair, Abu Sulayman’s brother, to teach the boy to ride ... with his knees alone." Hamilton p. 28
- ALT1: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud served both Latin Christian and Arab Muslim rulers? Source: "This Eastern Christian family thus knit together different political and religious groups of the region by bringing their medical expertise to serve both the Franks and the Ayyubids. Zimo p. 159
- ALT2: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud treated the Christian prince Baldwin of Jerusalem, but as an astrologer sent a message to Baldwin's enemy Saladin prophesizing Saladin's victory? Source: "... he also took a message from his father, a noted astrologer, to Saladin, assuring him that he would conquer Jerusalem." Hamilton p. 186
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Czarodziejski okręt
- Comment: Hamilton describes Abu Khayr in his 2000 book as Abu Sulayman's brother. Other cited sources, as well as Hamilton in his 1980 book, describes Abu Khayr as Abu Sulayman's son.
Surtsicna (talk) 18:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: New article with 2380 characters, well-sourced with inline citations. I reviewed all cited sources for verification; all sources are accessible. No issues with copyvio or tone. All hooks are interesting, well-researched, and properly cited. Thank you for writing about Abu Sulayman, an exceptional figure whose life bridged cultural and religious divides. As an Arab Christian, I appreciate how this article highlights the contributions of Eastern Christians, and Arabs in general in medicine and science. el.ziade (talkallam) 10:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Eurovision Song Contest 2000
- ... that the 2000 edition of the Eurovision Song Contest was the first to be broadcast live over the internet?
- ALT1: ... that the Israeli entry at the Eurovision Song Contest 2000 was disowned by the country's national broadcaster when the performers waved Israeli and Syrian flags in a call for peace between nations? Source: The end of a decade: Stockholm 2000 Outraged Israel disowns daring Eurovision entry
- ALT2: ... that the broadcast of the Eurovision Song Contest 2000 in the Netherlands was suspended partway through in order to provide emergency news coverage of a fireworks disaster? Source: The end of a decade: Stockholm 2000
- ALT3: ... that the Russian delegation petitioned for the disqualification of the winning Danish entry at the Eurovision Song Contest 2000 because of the group's use of a vocoder during the performance? Source: The end of a decade: Stockholm 2000 Stockholm 2000
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Boise Pro Soccer
Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:41, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
- @Sims2aholic8: Per a recent rule change, nominations should have a QPQ provided at the time of the nomination, rather than the old rule where they could be given up to a week after. The nomination is liable to be closed without further warning if a QPQ is not provided as soon as possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:21, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for flagging, was not aware of the rule change; will remember this for future submissions! QPQ now done and included above. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 15:38, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- I will review this nomination given the QPQ issue has been dealt with. New enough, long enough. Hooks are cited, short enough and interesting. I would suggest amending ALT1 to specify peace between those two countries specifically. The way its worded now could imply world peace. Llewee (talk) 23:13, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for flagging, was not aware of the rule change; will remember this for future submissions! QPQ now done and included above. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 15:38, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Big Motor
- ... that as part of an insurance fraud scheme, Big Motor employees hit cars with socks stuffed with golf balls?
- Source: (Big Motor) revealed at least 1,275 cases of improper repairs...these involved using screwdrivers and sandpaper to scratch car bodies, hitting vehicles with golf balls put in socks and doing unnecessary paint work. Bigmotor chief to resign in wake of repair fraud scandal, The Japan Times
- ALT1: ... that Tokyo police raided Big Motor's headquarters as part of an investigation about tree killing? Source: 13 at Bigmotor Referred to Prosecutors over Roadside Trees, The Japan News - "Bigmotor officials told Jiji Press in September last year that the company cut down trees and sprayed herbicides...The Tokyo police raided Bigmotor’s headquarters and nine outlets in September last year over the dead trees."
- Reviewed:
FossilDS (talk) 19:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting, copyvio free, long enough, recently created, reliable source. Both are passable but the first is far more interesting (and the second is cited into a different source in text).
- However, one issue. I am worried this article is slightly NPOV, in that it has almost no content except the controversies. While their scandals are a key part of the notability I have concerns with running on the front page an article that is only scandal when they do seem to have been otherwise notable, with little historical context or other information on their activities. For comparison, the Japanese article looks more balanced on this front. I don't think anything has to be removed, but maybe add more that isn't scandal? I have no issues otherwise. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @PARAKANYAA:, thank you for the review! I do also agree that the article leans a bit too heavily on the controversies, but almost all Japanese-language sources and all English-languages sources basically only talk about the scandals, so it was a bit difficult finding stuff unrelated to it. I've reorganized the article a bit and added more info from the Japanese article, I hope it's at least somewhat sufficient. I'm also happy with nominating the first DYK instead of ALT1.FossilDS (talk) 16:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- The new changes address my issue. Good to go! PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @PARAKANYAA:, thank you for the review! I do also agree that the article leans a bit too heavily on the controversies, but almost all Japanese-language sources and all English-languages sources basically only talk about the scandals, so it was a bit difficult finding stuff unrelated to it. I've reorganized the article a bit and added more info from the Japanese article, I hope it's at least somewhat sufficient. I'm also happy with nominating the first DYK instead of ALT1.FossilDS (talk) 16:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Kang Ju-hyeok
- ... that footballer Kang Ju-hyeok (pictured) became the youngest player to debut in FC Seoul history at 17 years, 9 months, and 6 days old?
- ALT1: ... that footballer Kang Ju-hyeok (pictured) became the third youngest player to debut in K League history at 17 years, 9 months, and 6 days old? Source: https://www.fourfourtwo.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=55320
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Glomp
✗plicit 13:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article looks good and hook is interesting. Approving with good faith because I cannot speak Korean, although Google Translate verifies the hook. ―Panamitsu (talk) 06:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Carlyle Hotel
- ... that the Carlyle Hotel had to be sold just two years after its completion? Source: Gray, Christopher (October 28, 2001). "Streetscapes/The Carlyle Hotel, 76th Street and Madison Avenue; Art Deco Tower Where President Kennedy Stayed". The New York Times.
- ALT1: ... that the Carlyle Hotel, which had to be sold just two years after its completion, later became the "White House of Manhattan"? Source: Gray, Christopher (October 28, 2001). "Streetscapes/The Carlyle Hotel, 76th Street and Madison Avenue; Art Deco Tower Where President Kennedy Stayed". The New York Times; Talese, Gay (February 7, 1964). "Madison Avenue: A Street of Presidents and Poise". The New York Times
- ALT2: ... that a Carlyle Hotel staffer once lent his own bow tie to Laurence Olivier for a dinner? Source: Agovino, Theresa (November 21, 1988). "Secrets of Carlyle's Success". Crain's New York Business. Vol. 4, no. 47. p. 3.
- ALT3: ... that during the construction of the Carlyle Hotel, the pipes in its bathrooms were changed after its developer's son visited two nearby construction sites? Source: Brenner, Marie (December 19, 1983). "The Inside Story of the Carlyle". New York Magazine. New York Media, LLC. p. 31.
- ALT4: ... that the Carlyle Hotel, once known as the "White House of Manhattan", has also hosted royalty? Source: Talese, Gay (February 7, 1964). "Madison Avenue: A Street of Presidents and Poise". The New York Times; Birmingham, Stephen (March 1, 1992). "New York is Full of Luxury Hotels, but There's Nothing Else Quite Like the Fabled Carlyle-remarkably Comfortable, Distinctively Stylish and Very Discreet". Los Angeles Times. p. 26
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wuhan trolleybus route 1
- Comment: I will probably come up with more hooks later.
Epicgenius (talk) 01:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Certainly updated recently, with a 114k-character expansion, so new enough, and long enough. It is well-sourced and not too closely paraphrased. The hooks are short and interesting. I would go for ALT1, for me it's the most interesting/surprising, but I'm happy with all of them (and who's knows what other hooks are in store). And QPQ has been done. If there is a problem, I cannot find it. Thank you. Cardofk (talk) 21:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Michael O'Kane
- ... that Michael O'Kane never received approval to begin constructing a building for the College of the Holy Cross?
- Source: Kuzniewski, Anthony J. (1999). Thy Honored Name: A History of the College of the Holy Cross, 1843–1994. Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press. pp. 148–149. ISBN 978-0-81320-911-1. Archived from the original on March 25, 2020. Retrieved August 26, 2023 – via Google Books.
Ergo Sum 03:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review - but the current version of ALT0 doesn't seem very clear: is the word 'before' needed? @Ergo Sum: Chaiten1 (talk) 11:38, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Chaiten1: That was a typo. I've fixed it. Ergo Sum 16:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is a newly created article, which is well written, well sourced and has no copyvio issues. The hook is interesting, a good length, and checks out with the source (verified in google books); the hook is appropriately referenced in the article. QPQ has been done. Nice work! Chaiten1 (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Anthony F. Ciampi
- ... that Anthony F. Ciampi (pictured) rebuilt the College of the Holy Cross after it was destroyed by fire in 1852?
- Source: Kuzniewski, Anthony J. (1999). Thy Honored Name: A History of the College of the Holy Cross, 1843-1994. Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press. pp. 77, 103. ISBN 9780813209111. Archived from the original on December 15, 2018. Retrieved December 15, 2018 – via Google Books.
- ALT1: ... that Anthony F. Ciampi (pictured) fought his superiors to rebuild the College of the Holy Cross after it was destroyed by fire in 1852? Source: Kuzniewski, Anthony J. (1999). Thy Honored Name: A History of the College of the Holy Cross, 1843-1994. Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press. pp. 81–82. ISBN 9780813209111. Archived from the original on December 15, 2018. Retrieved December 15, 2018 – via Google Books.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nocturna (band)
Ergo Sum 17:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. Either hook works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Standard-winged nightjar
- ... that during breeding season, the male standard-winged nightjar (pictured) grows a wing ornament over twice the length of its body?
- Source: Cleere, N.; Kirwan, G. M. (2020). del Hoyo, J.; Elliott, A.; Sargatal, J.; Christie, D. A.; de Juana, E. (eds.). "Standard-winged Nightjar (Caprimulgus longipennis), version 1.0". Birds of the World Online. Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, NY. doi:10.2173/bow.stwnig1.01.
21–22 cm (excluding male's "standards", which reach 45–53·5 cm in length)
Reconrabbit 22:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- The article is fine in every respect (long enough, well-written and recently enough promoted to GA), and the hook is good, but it is not backed up by the wording in the article. In the article it simply says that the standards are "much longer" than the body, now "twice the length". There should also be an inline citation supporting the claim directly after the sentence in which it is made. It's a small fix, after which the article should be ready for DYK. Yakikaki (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe that the length given of
a broad secondary flight feather[4] on each wing elongated to up to 53.5 centimetres
makes sense to describe as "twice the length of its body" since earlier the bird's length is given asthis medium-sized (20–23 centimetres (7.9–9.1 in) long) nightjar
and 53.5÷2=26.75 > 23 cm. Though since it's "up to" I could see justifying adding "that can be" after "wing ornament" in the hook. Additionally the quote in the source describes the bird's body as "21-22 cm" and immediately after gives a minimum length of 45 cm with the standards. I could change it to say directly in the article "over twice the length" instead of just "much longer" though. Reconrabbit 00:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe that the length given of
- Sure, I wasn't arguing that the facts were not in the article or not supported by the inline citations. DYK used to have a rule, though, which stated "The facts of the hook need to appear in the article with a citation no later than at the end of the sentences in which they appear." However I see now that the rules have changed and become more flexible, and I can therefore happily drop this minor objection and give the green light to the article. Nice work! Yakikaki (talk) 15:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Yoon Do-young
- ... that Yoon Do-young (pictured) scored his debut goal for Daejeon Hana Citizen 50 seconds into its match against Gwangju FC?
✗plicit 12:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks good to. Both articles new enough, long enough. Hook fact is cited in the flag article. AGF on Korean sources. FaysaLBinDaruL (talk) 16:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 5
[edit]History of education in Wales (1870–1939)
- ... that educating girls and women in late-19th century Wales was felt to be a way to make them better housewives?
- Source: *Jones, Gareth Elwyn; Roderick, Gordon Wynne (2003). History of Education in Wales. University of Wales Press. ISBN 978-0708318089. (page 99)
- James, Deborah (November 2001). "'Teaching girls': intermediate schools and career opportunities for girls in the East Glamorgan valleys of Wales, 1896—1914". History of Education. 30 (6): 513–526. doi:10.1080/00467600110072114. ISSN 0046-760X. (pages 519–520)
- Jenkins, Beth (2016). "Women's professional employment in Wales 1880-1939" (PDF). Cardiff University. (pages 41, 47, 49)
- ALT1: ... that 38% of Welsh university students in 1900 were woman? Source: Jenkins, Beth (2016). "Women's professional employment in Wales 1880-1939" (PDF). Cardiff University. (page 48)
- ALT2: ... that the songs taught to Welsh Schoolchildren in the late 19th century included Let English boys their duty do and Hurrah for England? Source: Johnes, Martin (2024). Welsh Not: Elementary Education and the Anglicisation of Nineteenth-Century Wales (PDF). University of Wales Press. ISBN 9781837721818. (pages 352–354)
- ALT3: ... that 1930s Welsh schoolchildren were more likely to go to secondary school than their counterparts in England? Source: Jones, Gareth Elwyn; Roderick, Gordon Wynne (2003). History of Education in Wales. University of Wales Press. ISBN 978-0708318089. (pages 128–129)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 2000
Llewee (talk) 23:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- Nice work on this Llewee! Brought to GA on November 5, obviously long enough, very well-written, neutral, decorated with correctly-licensed images. I feel strongly that ALT1 is the most interesting fact here. ALT0 makes me wonder who felt that way—educators? Women? ALT2 doesn't do much for me, and ALT3 is alright. Great work! ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Paora
- ... that following public backlash over Paora the kiwi being mistreated, Zoo Miami stated, "We have offended the nation of New Zealand"?
―Panamitsu (talk) 07:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hook interesting, article new and long enough with adequate referencing. Hook fact cited inline and verified in the relevant source. QPQ is done. Earwig gives a fairly high number but that is due to attributed quotes which are relevant to the article. Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Panamitsu, have you thought of asking Zoo Miami whether they'd like to donate a free photo to Wikipedia? Maybe as part of their ongoing redemption? I do remember that their publicity officer was rather onto it. And on a different front, I encouraged User:Paora to review this article as that seemed rather appropriate. But obviously, he's missed the boat. Schwede66 07:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: Haha yes it certainly would've been funny if Paora reviewed this nomination. As for the image, I haven't thought of that, although it sounds like a good idea. I prefer not to ask organisations for images so I won't be doing it myself. You are welcome to do it if you wish, although I do realise that you will be more focussed on other projects that are more meaningful to you. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, no problems. I've managed to track down an email address for the zoo's communications director, Ron Magill. I've flicked him an email. Let's see what comes back. Can I suggest that prep promoters sit tight for a few days to see whether the zoo would like to make a photo available? Panamitsu, maybe you'd enjoy giving Magill's bio a bit of a tidy up – it could certainly do with one. Schwede66 08:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Elogio del Horizonte
- ... that Elogio del Horizonte (pictured) has been nicknamed "King Kong's toilet"?
Kimikel (talk) 04:21, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but I love the hook. I'd lose "derisively" for concision though.--Launchballer 13:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: The article is good enough with length. Hook is interesting, good to go. FaysaLBinDaruL (talk) 17:23, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @FaysaLBinDaruL: Kimikel has already done a QPQ.--Launchballer 20:46, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I rechecked that time intantly, forget to remove that massage. Thanks for reminding me. Now its clear to go. FaysaLBinDaruL (talk) 22:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
The Catholic Spirit
- ... that The Catholic Bulletin scooped the election of Pope Benedict XV?
- Source: "Catholic Bulletin Is 50 Years Old". The Minneapolis Star. 7 January 1961. Retrieved 5 November 2024.
- ALT1: ... that a priest canceled 1,600 subscriptions to The Catholic Bulletin over a front-page photo of nuns dancing? Source: Cohen, Ben (20 September 2008). "Bernard Casserly kept Catholics in the know". Star Tribune. Retrieved 5 November 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95
~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 20:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ is done. Page is long enough and was expanded recently enough. Hooks check out. Personally I prefer ALT1, it's much funnier IMO. Di (they-them) (talk) 21:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's probably best as some things aren't adding up as I dive deeper into the first hook. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 21:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Stuff Matters
- ... that according to the author of Stuff Matters, holding a sample of an aerogel is "like holding a piece of sky"?
- Source: "Most people will never hold a piece of aerogel in their hand, but those who do never forget it. It is a unique experience. There is no weight to it that you can perceive, and its edges fade away so imperceptibly that is impossible to see where the material stops and the air begins. Add to this its ghostly blue color and it really is like holding a piece of sky." Miodownik, Mark. Jan.-Feb. 2015. "Like Holding a Piece of Sky". American Scientist. Vol. 103. No. 1. pp 60-65. (The first page indicates "Excerpted from Stuff Matters by Mark Miodownik")
DrOrinScrivello (talk) 17:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- Page is long enough and new enough. DYK is done. Hook is interesting and sourced. Looks good! Di (they-them) (talk) 21:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Agreement between Armenia and Azerbaijan respecting the District of Zanghezour
- ... that after signing a peace agreement in 1919, Azerbaijan attempted to invade southern Armenia again in 1920, but the attack was foiled by an Armenian rebellion in Nagorno-Karabakh, which led to the destruction of Shusha's Armenian quarter?
- Source: Saparov, Arsène (2014). From conflict to autonomy in the Caucasus: the Soviet Union and the making of Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Nagorno Karabakh. Routledge.
- Reviewed:
Olympian loquere 00:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not required. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 18:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)