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September 22 | 1 | 1 |
September 23 | 1 | |
September 24 | 1 | |
September 26 | 2 | 1 |
September 27 | 2 | 1 |
October 3 | 1 | |
October 4 | 1 | 1 |
October 5 | 2 | |
October 6 | 1 | |
October 7 | 3 | 1 |
October 8 | 1 | |
October 9 | 2 | 1 |
October 10 | 1 | 1 |
October 11 | 1 | |
October 13 | 7 | |
October 15 | 5 | |
October 16 | 4 | 1 |
October 17 | 2 | |
October 18 | 6 | |
October 19 | 4 | 1 |
October 20 | 4 | 3 |
October 22 | 8 | |
October 23 | 5 | 1 |
October 24 | 3 | |
October 25 | 4 | 3 |
October 26 | 1 | 1 |
October 27 | 5 | 3 |
October 28 | 5 | |
October 29 | 2 | 1 |
October 30 | 8 | 3 |
October 31 | 8 | 1 |
November 1 | 11 | 7 |
November 2 | 8 | 4 |
November 3 | 16 | 12 |
November 4 | 7 | 3 |
November 5 | 10 | 4 |
November 6 | 5 | 2 |
November 7 | 9 | 5 |
November 8 | 7 | 2 |
November 9 | 8 | 5 |
November 10 | 10 | 5 |
November 11 | 7 | 5 |
November 12 | 5 | 3 |
November 13 | 8 | 1 |
November 14 | 9 | 3 |
November 15 | 12 | 5 |
November 16 | 8 | 3 |
November 17 | 6 | 3 |
November 18 | 12 | 6 |
November 19 | 8 | 1 |
November 20 | 1 | 1 |
November 21 | 1 | 1 |
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November 23 | ||
Total | 269 | 106 |
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[edit]How to promote an accepted hook
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Nominations
[edit]Special occasion holding area
[edit]- Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section on the regular nominations page, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began, or it was listed as a Good Article; be sure to indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
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- Note for promoters: please be sure to add an "invisible" comment after a hook when you've placed it in prep, noting that it's a special occasion hook and including the date it is supposed to run. This should keep the hook from being moved after promotion, as sometimes happens to hooks when a queue needs a slot filled or a prep set needs to be made more balanced by swapping hooks between preps.
November 27 (birthday)
[edit]Approved nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on September 22
[edit]Barquq Castle
- ... that the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret of Barquq Castle in the Gaza Strip were still standing until 2024?
- Source: Abu Khalaf 1983, p. 182: "Nowadays the Khan is almost demolished, but the front part, which consists of the façade including the gateway and the Mosque with its minaret still stands."
Onceinawhile (talk) 00:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Onceinawhile: Please note that per a recent rule change, a QPQ must be provided at the time of the nomination or at most immediately after. The nomination may be failed without further warning if a QPQ is not provided as soon as possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I have done the QPQ now. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed now the QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
article is long enough, new enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is complete. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile:@Gonzo fan2007: This hook implies that all of these things (the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret) are no longer standing as of 2024. However, it doesn't necessarily say that in the article, just that the site was vaguely "damaged". If we know to what extent, and if we know that all those things are indeed no longer standing, then this hook is fine, that just needs to be mentioned sourced in the article. If not the hook may need to be tweaked somewhat to reflect the fact we don't know what parts are standing or not. Kimikel (talk) 14:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel: thank you for raising this. The hook was written before the article was complete, so it was intentionally vague as to what happened during the war as we had not quite figured it out. Following further research, the article now says "The castle was damaged during the Israel–Hamas war." UNESCO have verified damage to the site, and the images in this article show what is standing and what is damaged. I suggest we amend the hook to:
- ALT1: ... that the 637-year-old Barquq Castle (pictured), the eponymous historical monument of Khan Yunis, was damaged during the Israel–Hamas war?
- Onceinawhile (talk) 18:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile: Okay, so 637 appears to come from 2024-1387, which a) would need a citation for 1387 (and given that this could conceivably be late 1387 and early 2024, I'm not even sure that's adequate); b) "the ... Yunis" is cruising for a pruning per WP:DYKTRIM, and c) given Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 203#Negative Israel hooks you should very seriously consider merging this with Old City of Gaza, i.e. some variant of ALT2: ... that the Old City of Gaza, the Old City of Nablus, and the 600-year-old Barquq Castle have all been damaged by the Israel-Hamas War?--Launchballer 11:50, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Launchballer. The 1387 is sourced twice in the article, most precisely in the inscription section. The Arabic inscription at the top of the gateway dates it 789 AH (ar:789 هـ) which is technically 1387-88. Perhaps better to say “over 600-year-old” or similar.
- The proposed merger doesn’t work because Nablus has nothing to do with Hamas. I have already merged two into one, I don’t think three into one is workable - particularly as two are cities with many historical monuments and the other is just a single monument (if the only truly historical monument in Khan Yunis) - but happy to hear further proposals.
- Onceinawhile (talk) 21:06, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile: How about "14th-century"?--Launchballer 00:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: that works perfectly. So it would be:
- @Onceinawhile: How about "14th-century"?--Launchballer 00:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile: Okay, so 637 appears to come from 2024-1387, which a) would need a citation for 1387 (and given that this could conceivably be late 1387 and early 2024, I'm not even sure that's adequate); b) "the ... Yunis" is cruising for a pruning per WP:DYKTRIM, and c) given Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 203#Negative Israel hooks you should very seriously consider merging this with Old City of Gaza, i.e. some variant of ALT2: ... that the Old City of Gaza, the Old City of Nablus, and the 600-year-old Barquq Castle have all been damaged by the Israel-Hamas War?--Launchballer 11:50, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Onceinawhile (talk) 18:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that the 14th century Barquq Castle (pictured), the eponymous historical monument of Khan Yunis, was damaged during the Israel–Hamas war?
- Onceinawhile (talk) 08:31, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fine by me, and as I've introduced no new information let's roll.--Launchballer 13:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's not entirely clear to me what "the eponymous historical monument" means Onceinawhile? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @AirshipJungleman29: the other name for Barquq Castle is Khan Yunis.
- Yunis was a local leader under Sultan Barquq. Castle (or "qalat") is the local and common name for what is here actually a Khan (an inn for travellers).
- Later a town built up around this "Khan Yunis". The town was named after the building, hence "eponymous".
- Onceinawhile (talk) 21:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article says the town was named after the official, not the castle named after the official. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @AirshipJungleman29: I have clarified the drafting. Thanks for pointing this out. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article says the town was named after the official, not the castle named after the official. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's not entirely clear to me what "the eponymous historical monument" means Onceinawhile? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fine by me, and as I've introduced no new information let's roll.--Launchballer 13:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Onceinawhile (talk) 08:31, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 26
[edit]Hanif Kureshi
- ... that Indian street artist Hanif Kureshi, working pseudonymously as Daku, would use Google Street View images to practice his art before rendering them on the streets? Source: [Livemint]
Ktin (talk) 01:27, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
- Extremely no-fun comment: If this goes on the main page, the copyright status of the images in it should be clear. I'm looking at c:Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/India, and it says that there is not freedom of panorama "For copyrighted 2D (paintings, drawings, maps, pictures, engravings, etc.)". It seems that only sculptures, and art that is not "Paintings, drawings, or photographs", has FOP. So.. did Hanif Kureshi dedicate his art to the public domain? Is his estate (if any) willing to, if he didn't? I'm not demanding the images be removed or anything, just that if we can't be sure, it may be better to withdraw the nom and keep the possibly questionable images than proceed with the nom if the image copyright status can't be ascertained. (Of course, if the copyright status can be ascertained to be good, then great.) SnowFire (talk) 03:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe we should be good on Indian freedom of panorama due to the 'permanently situate' clause. Specifically, this would be included in the freedom of panorama clause in India because the work is "permanently situated in a public place or premises to which the public has access". Will wait for the DYK review. Ktin (talk) 03:23, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: All of the images I've uploaded of street murals have been deleted from Commons. I can't imagine that these will survive either. Viriditas (talk) 23:30, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- If I may ask, which country's street murals did you upload? If it was Indian street murals and the murals were in a public place, they should not have been deleted. Specifically as quoted above, if the work of art is permanently situated in a public place or premises to which the public has access, that should be allowed under freedom of panorama, in India. Ktin (talk) 00:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I uploaded images of murals in the US, but my reading of SnowFire's comment indicates that Indian murals aren't protected either. Viriditas (talk) 00:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Street art in India is permitted under Freedom of Panorama if they were in a public place, specifically under clause Section 52(t) which says
(the following acts shall not constitute an infringement of copyright) ... if such work is permanently situate in a public place or any premises to which the public has access.
So if you had uploaded pictures of murals in India, they should not have been deleted. Ktin (talk) 03:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Street art in India is permitted under Freedom of Panorama if they were in a public place, specifically under clause Section 52(t) which says
I will take your word for it; but others might not. I've never seen a lead image in the PNG format before, especially one that represents a screen capture from a video. Viriditas (talk) 08:50, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm doing a read through and random spot checks. I don't like how you use multiple sources after a sentence; when I look at the source, I see that only one of the two (for example) supports the material in whole or in part, rather than both. I'm guessing this is due to older versions and too many cooks in the kitchen. Best practice is to have one citation at the end of a sentence or phrase or a word. I find it helpful to bundle sources if you need to use more than two, such that one appears inline only. Example: there's no reason to have two citations after "Kureshi was born on 12 October 1982 in Palitana, a town in the Bhavnagar district of Gujarat", when the entire statement is supported by just one.[3] Viriditas (talk) 09:18, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- And now I see that neither of the cited sources supports his birth date of 12 October. Please go through this article and make sure each citation is used judiciously and supports the material. Viriditas (talk) 09:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- This source supports the birth date, but is not currently in the article. Also, because it was published on October 30, we don't know if there's a problem with citogenesis. Looking at the page history, the only source for his birth date is yourself. Perhaps you can fix this issue? Viriditas (talk) 06:41, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, the birth date comes from the social media account for the St+art India Foundation which announced his death on September 23.[4] It doesn't look like anyone else used it until much later, either copying it from Facebook and Instagram or from this article. I'm not clear how we go ahead and cite that other than IAR. Viriditas (talk) 06:48, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- This source supports the birth date, but is not currently in the article. Also, because it was published on October 30, we don't know if there's a problem with citogenesis. Looking at the page history, the only source for his birth date is yourself. Perhaps you can fix this issue? Viriditas (talk) 06:41, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- And now I see that neither of the cited sources supports his birth date of 12 October. Please go through this article and make sure each citation is used judiciously and supports the material. Viriditas (talk) 09:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Okay, I think I figured out a workaround. Vogue India posted a piece just before or after you created the Wikipedia bio. They directly cited a portion of the original Instagram post (an image), which preserves the chain of evidence in a reliable secondary source without citogenesis. I will go ahead and add this now. Viriditas (talk) 06:56, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm slowly making way through every sentence, and virtually every paragraph has the wrong source or a missing source. I am attempting to fix this, but this article was not ready for DYK when it was nominated. Viriditas (talk) 09:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Almost done, but I have to go to sleep now and won't be able to finish until tomorrow. If anyone reads this, the lead doesn't mention the Handpainted Type Project and it really needs to do so. I would be embarrassed to run this if it didn't. Viriditas (talk) 11:40, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin: your hook has to be based on information in the article. Currently, you don't mention anything about Daku inline. You will need to add that. In addition to adding it to the body, I would also add it to the lead along with the Handpainted Type Project. Viriditas (talk) 11:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I don’t have access to a computer that I can edit from. But I had a brief look and an IP editor and another one-edit editor has edited the article after I nominated the DYK to remove content from both the body and the lede. Please have a look. Alternately, I will when I get access again. Ktin (talk) 23:52, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin: Thanks for letting me know. I will take care of the issues, but by doing so, I won't be allowed to review the nomination. Please confirm that all of these images of murals were completed in whole or in part by Hanif Kureshi. I have added commons categories to all of them in good faith, but there is no identifying information in the image uploads indicating Kureshi is the author. Viriditas (talk) 23:54, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- I will attempt to add sources to the images later tonight. Viriditas (talk) 03:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ping me when you're done and I will review this.--Launchballer 15:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will. The article is very problematic, and I'm having to go through every sentence, line by line, source by source. There's also an enormous amount that isn't here, so there's a potential WP:DYKCOMPLETE problem that I'm also trying to solve. Viriditas (talk) 21:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ping me when you're done and I will review this.--Launchballer 15:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I will attempt to add sources to the images later tonight. Viriditas (talk) 03:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin: Thanks for letting me know. I will take care of the issues, but by doing so, I won't be allowed to review the nomination. Please confirm that all of these images of murals were completed in whole or in part by Hanif Kureshi. I have added commons categories to all of them in good faith, but there is no identifying information in the image uploads indicating Kureshi is the author. Viriditas (talk) 23:54, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I don’t have access to a computer that I can edit from. But I had a brief look and an IP editor and another one-edit editor has edited the article after I nominated the DYK to remove content from both the body and the lede. Please have a look. Alternately, I will when I get access again. Ktin (talk) 23:52, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin: your hook has to be based on information in the article. Currently, you don't mention anything about Daku inline. You will need to add that. In addition to adding it to the body, I would also add it to the lead along with the Handpainted Type Project. Viriditas (talk) 11:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
@Ktin: I'm trying to finish this up, but I noticed that professor Sanchita Khurana has included a lot of great images of Kureshi's public art online with a photo credit to the St+art India Foundation. Does that mean I can upload the images to commons, or not? Given that Kureshi co-founded this project with the idea of getting art to the people, it would make sense if the images were released to the public, as that philosophy would be aligned with the original intent of the foundation. It would also vastly improve this article. Otherwise, we currently only have one image of Kureshi's work, and because the angle is rather extreme and the lighting is harsh, it's not a good one, and I would like to remedy that by replacing it with a non-free one if need be. Viriditas (talk) 21:25, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I still do not have access to a computer that I can edit from. However, these images — are they images of buildings / streets that have the murals on them or are they pictures of the murals isolated? If the former they would be allowed under freedom of panorama in India, but, if they are the latter, they are copyrighted. We can always reach out to St+art India on instagram and ask them if they are willing to upload a picture or two onto commons and release them under cc3 or similar. I have seen folks do that in the past. Unfortunately we can’t use non free image under the *fair use* principle because it will be argued that it is possible to walk up and get a picture of the building / street art. Furthermore, iirc fair use would require that the picture be used as the identifying graphic for the article. I hope to get access to a computer to edit from over the weekend and I can lend a hand. Ktin (talk) 04:15, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I am back with availability over the weekend. Feel free to let me know if you need anything from me. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 08:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin: Thank you. I am trying to wind things down and wrap this up. I'm hoping to be finished in 14-16 hours from now, if I can get it together. Viriditas (talk) 09:32, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin: I think I figured out why I was having so many problems. The merge of Daku (artist) was never completed. I only just saw this. This is why I made the comment about DYKCOMPLETE up above. What I'm seeing in the sources and what I'm seeing in this article didn't line up until I looked at the original Daku article, which shows me all the missing content. Viriditas (talk) 11:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin: It would be very helpful if you could upload some more free images. I understand if you can't, but the only image we have of Kureshi's work is sadly captured from the wrong angle. That particular work (We Love Dilli) is supposed to be captured from the front to show the script floating. With the current image taken from the side, you can't actually see that effect, and it pretty much detracts from the entire point. I understand that the photographer probably wasn't aware of this, but photographing art is very tricky, and there are, in fact, pieces which defy the act of photography itself. If that means requesting images from the various art collectives Kureshi worked with, that would be great. Viriditas (talk) 10:05, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I have asked on the Instagram page of St+art India. Will keep you posted. Ktin (talk) 19:15, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Btw, the graffiti that image that you have added from Goregaon. I had seen that before. While it does read "Daku", I had no way to verify that it was indeed Kureshi's creation. Hence, I had not added it to the article. From a stylization standpoint, it does not line up with any of his other creations. I might be wrong. But, what we have there is unverified. Ktin (talk) 19:24, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure. The WSJ said he spent a year tagging buildings in Mumbai, and that he "shies away from being associated with just one face or identity. He doesn't want to be known for only one kind of art." I'll consider removing it if I can't find anything else to support it. I should also note that the Gujarati language Wikipedia pretty much confirms this: "Over the years he wrote his name in different colors and patterns in cities like Mumbai..." Viriditas (talk) 21:54, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I am back with availability over the weekend. Feel free to let me know if you need anything from me. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 08:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
@Launchballer: I've made some significant progress, and I'm at an inflection point. I don't want this to time out, so I'm wondering if I can have another day or two to work on it. Viriditas (talk) 22:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Of course, take your time.--Launchballer 22:39, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I just want to note that the hook has to be rewritten as it completely underplays the point of why Kureshi was using Google Street View, which is the most interesting part of the hook. Viriditas (talk) 23:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Hanif Kureshi transformed shadows cast by the Sun into street art? Majumdar, Roshni (12 May 2016). "Indian street artist Daku reveals graffiti powered by the sun". CNN; Parakala, Vangmayi (6 May 2016). "On 15 May, this art will disappear". Mint.
- @Launchballer: I'm ready for a review. Viriditas (talk) 11:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin and Viriditas: Alright. This is certainly long enough at just under 7500 characters. The problem I have is that - per the talk page - this article previously existed at Daku (artist), where it was just under 5000 characters. Even if I yeeted all the {{cn}} stuff on BLP grounds, it would still be over 3000. I think this needs to go through GA to be eligible. I'm very sorry.--Launchballer 13:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Firstly, thanks for your patience on this one. I just want to note that this article Hanif Kureshi was built independently of Daku (artist) until we found that article. The context here is that the pseudonymous name Daku and related contributions were roughly one third of Kureshi's overall contributions. There was hardly any content that was brought in from the Daku article into this one when we merged the two. If you see Viriditas's note re: WP:DYKCOMPLETE also partly stemmed from that. With this, my submission is that we should consider this article independently. That said, I can understand if you think this nomination should be rejected. Thank you. Ktin (talk) 16:32, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Given that you have worked more than I have on identifying additional sources and expanding the article, I am happy to nominate this one for WP:GA on your behalf if you have the availability to work on any feedback that comes from the review process. I am happy to lend a hand as well. I will keep you posted on the response re: the ask for additional images. Ktin (talk) 16:50, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Pings won't work unless you sign in the same edit, but Viriditas should still get mine from earlier. My problem is that this wouldn't be eligible if you'd found that first and expanded it. The nearest equivalent I can think of is Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 200#Request to close nomination, at which IAR wasn't mentioned. If you put in a request at WP:GARC, you might be able to get it done before this times out.--Launchballer 17:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Use Special:ComparePages for this kind of problem. Here is the result. Daku (artist) and Hanif Kureshi are the same, but two separate articles with different content. The reason they are topic dupes, is because the original article was based on the anonymous career of Daku’s work as a graffiti artist before he became known as Hanif Kureshi. Ktin created this article after Kureshi died. I believe this means this DYK is still eligible. This kind of problem has come up before so this shouldn’t be a problem. Viriditas (talk) 17:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:DYK5X, "this calculation is made from the last version of the article before the expansion began, even if text from the original was deleted in the process (unless the text was a copyright violation, in which case it does not count towards the size of the original)." You can take it up at WT:DYK if you like, but I still don't think this is eligible.--Launchballer 01:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- It’s not a 5x problem. They were two separate articles; Ktin wasn’t even aware of the other article until two days after writing this one, and as you can see from the ComparePage diff result up above, there’s no overlapping content. The original article was about an anonymous graffiti artist; this article was about the man himself. I realize that this must be confusing for you as it’s an edge case, so I won’t be taking it up anywhere, however I do remember this kind of thing happening before in the past. Have a great week. Viriditas (talk) 01:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- I could not have said this better. Thank you Viriditas. Ktin (talk) 03:08, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- It’s not a 5x problem. They were two separate articles; Ktin wasn’t even aware of the other article until two days after writing this one, and as you can see from the ComparePage diff result up above, there’s no overlapping content. The original article was about an anonymous graffiti artist; this article was about the man himself. I realize that this must be confusing for you as it’s an edge case, so I won’t be taking it up anywhere, however I do remember this kind of thing happening before in the past. Have a great week. Viriditas (talk) 01:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:DYK5X, "this calculation is made from the last version of the article before the expansion began, even if text from the original was deleted in the process (unless the text was a copyright violation, in which case it does not count towards the size of the original)." You can take it up at WT:DYK if you like, but I still don't think this is eligible.--Launchballer 01:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Use Special:ComparePages for this kind of problem. Here is the result. Daku (artist) and Hanif Kureshi are the same, but two separate articles with different content. The reason they are topic dupes, is because the original article was based on the anonymous career of Daku’s work as a graffiti artist before he became known as Hanif Kureshi. Ktin created this article after Kureshi died. I believe this means this DYK is still eligible. This kind of problem has come up before so this shouldn’t be a problem. Viriditas (talk) 17:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- If you nominate it, you will need to find time to work with the reviewer. My task here was to try and salvage this DYK, which appears to have failed. In the future, always check for article dupes under different names before creating a new one. I think your article still qualifies for DYK since it was original content not based on the Daku article. Viriditas (talk) 18:25, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Pings won't work unless you sign in the same edit, but Viriditas should still get mine from earlier. My problem is that this wouldn't be eligible if you'd found that first and expanded it. The nearest equivalent I can think of is Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 200#Request to close nomination, at which IAR wasn't mentioned. If you put in a request at WP:GARC, you might be able to get it done before this times out.--Launchballer 17:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree with Launchballer; just because another article on the same individual was redirected to this one does not make it ineligible. My only gripe with the current hook, @Viriditas and Ktin: I cannot see how this particular street art can be described as having been "painted". "Constructed" seems a much better word. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- If there is consensus I'm on wrong on that point, then I will withdraw my objection and finish the review. I see I already read the article; the QPQ has been done and the hook would otherwise check out. I don't see anything else that might disqualify this.--Launchballer 13:34, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktin and Viriditas: Alright. This is certainly long enough at just under 7500 characters. The problem I have is that - per the talk page - this article previously existed at Daku (artist), where it was just under 5000 characters. Even if I yeeted all the {{cn}} stuff on BLP grounds, it would still be over 3000. I think this needs to go through GA to be eligible. I'm very sorry.--Launchballer 13:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Understood, as I was intentionally riffing on "painting with shadows". Let me rework that hook. Viriditas (talk) 21:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I gave ALT1 another go up above. Let me know if it works for you or not. Viriditas (talk) 22:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'd lose "Indian artist" for concision and very possibly "typographic", but it otherwise checks out.--Launchballer 02:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed and done. Viriditas (talk) 03:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'd lose "Indian artist" for concision and very possibly "typographic", but it otherwise checks out.--Launchballer 02:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I gave ALT1 another go up above. Let me know if it works for you or not. Viriditas (talk) 22:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Understood, as I was intentionally riffing on "painting with shadows". Let me rework that hook. Viriditas (talk) 21:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 27
[edit]Phoebe Plummer
... that during Phoebe Plummer's May 2024 jury trial over a climate protest, the court finished early on several days due to the heat? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/15/uk-climate-activists-convicted-in-first-trial-of-new-anti-protest-lawsALT1: ... that an October 2022 protest involving Just Stop Oil member Phoebe Plummer inspired many activists worldwide to throw food at paintings? Source: https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/11/17/just-stop-oil-phoebe-plummer-prison/- ALT2: ... that when Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland faced trial over the Just Stop Oil Sunflowers protest, they were "unfortunate" to draw Christopher Hehir as judge? Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/30/just-stop-oil-soup-throwing-protests-moral-toddlerhood/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zero-emission zone in Oxford, Template:Did you know nominations/CyberJoly Drim, Template:Did you know nominations/Ajah Pritchard-Lolo, Template:Did you know nominations/Alison Creagh
- Comment: Plummer was created 27 September, though I did a 5x expansion on 2 October, added Just Stop Oil Sunflowers protest three days later, added Christopher Hehir two days after that, and added Holland on 5 November.
Launchballer 03:13, 2 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Ooh, a quadruple hook. All of the articles are new enough, long enough, and well cited. There are a few places where phrasing could be a bit more neutral (I feel like inspired would be better than empowered, for example), but those may also be stylstic considerations. Earwig isn't happy, but it's the large block quote that speaks to Plummer's inspiration in that instance. Ideally Hehir's article would have a bit more on his early life, but if the sources aren't talking about it, rather difficult. (Minor quibble: the source says "unfortunately" rather than "unfortunate", but I think it works here). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- This has been sitting near the top of Approved for over a week. What else do I have to do to get this promoted? (For the record, I believe "unfortunately" --> "unfortunate" is covered by MOS:SIC.)--Launchballer 02:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not entirely sure that Holland in particular meets the independent notability standards of WP:CRIMINAL. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- She's a lot more borderline than Plummer, I'll admit that. From memory, there's significant coverage of her role in Politico at least and this Prospect piece was what clinched it for me, but I will of course take another look later.--Launchballer 16:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Since we are dealing with a BLP, I think we should veer on the side of safety as described in WP:CRIMINAL. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've had another look and I believe Holland meets WP:CRIMINAL#unusual crime.--Launchballer 00:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'll wait for another promoter's opinion. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've had another look and I believe Holland meets WP:CRIMINAL#unusual crime.--Launchballer 00:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Since we are dealing with a BLP, I think we should veer on the side of safety as described in WP:CRIMINAL. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- She's a lot more borderline than Plummer, I'll admit that. From memory, there's significant coverage of her role in Politico at least and this Prospect piece was what clinched it for me, but I will of course take another look later.--Launchballer 16:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not entirely sure that Holland in particular meets the independent notability standards of WP:CRIMINAL. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 4
[edit]Echoes of Life Tour
- ... that the Echoes of Life Tour, a tour of solo ice shows in Japan by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu, opens on his 30th birthday on December 7, 2024?
- Source: Hanyu Yuzuru to unveil 'Echoes of Life' show on 30th birthday (Olympics.com)
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Henni147 (talk) 04:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC). Alright, I'm going to attempt reviewing this. First review for me, so it'll take a bit of time. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: 3.8% at earwig, not too sure about hookinterest. Will need a second opinion. Pinging User:Sky Harbor. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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@Narutolovehinata5: True, didn't think of the promotional aspect. There is one more idea for a hook:
This hook is supported by the source above and this one by the Japan Times newspaper: "The Tokyo handover segment of the Rio 2016 closing ceremony balanced cool imagery, references galore and meme-worthy moments. That team included musician Sheena Ringo and choreographer Mikiko Mizuno [...]" Henni147 (talk) 11:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
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@AlphaBetaGamma: Oh okay, so the "that" at the beginning is not included in the count. Does this adjustment work?
- ALT3 (shortened): "... that the Echoes of Life Tour by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu is directed by Mikiko who was also involved in the choreography of the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?"
- Sources: Hanyu Yuzuru to unveil 'Echoes of Life' show on 30th birthday (Olympics.com) and The Olympic opening ceremony that wasn't (The Japan Times).
This hook should have 195 characters now, but better check as well to be sure. Henni147 (talk) 07:25, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's 195 characters. Guess that's a wrap? ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 09:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @AlphaBetaGamma and Narutolovehinata5: Thank you very much for checking the hook and taking on this review in general. I hope, all issues have been fixed now. I wonder if the review template at the top needs to be updated to conclude the review? I'm not familiar with the system. Henni147 (talk) 10:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Henni147 and AlphaBetaGamma: I'm not sure I find the hook too enticing. Like, the fact that the performer and director were both in/at the Olympics is cool, but not the kind of thing that would make someone likely to read the full article. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: The idea behind this hook is that the Echoes of Life Tour is a solo tour of figure skating performances, and figure skating is an Olympic winter sport. Having the only two-time Olympic champion of men's skating since 1952 as the main performer and an Olympic choreographer as a director is basically like watching an Olympic-level performance, which should be triggering enough to read more about it.
- Background info: The athletic content of Hanyu's last two solo shows levelled the complexity of the current world record in men's singles (6 clean quadruple jumps among others) and featured multiple Olympic-winning programs. This is not just some fancy ice show, but a serious sports performance as well. Since 'Echoes of Life' is the third installment of the series, the athletic merit is expected to be of the same caliber as its predecessors.
- I'll try to figure out how to adjust the hook in a way that it sounds more exciting. I'm open to smart suggestions. Henni147 (talk) 10:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Given that this is a figure skating article, maybe Figureskatingfan might have some hook suggestions? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:29, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Since you asked, I think that ALT3 is fine. How 'bout this for a shorter version, though: ALT4: "... that the Echoes of Life Tour by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu is directed by Mikiko, a choreographer of the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?" Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 19:07, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's a bit on the long side and may have too many distracting blue links. Maybe it could be revised further? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: ALT4a: ... that the director for Yuzuru Hanyu's Echoes of Life Tour choreographed the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?--Launchballer 00:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm good with ALT4a. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 04:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: ALT4a: ... that the director for Yuzuru Hanyu's Echoes of Life Tour choreographed the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?--Launchballer 00:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's a bit on the long side and may have too many distracting blue links. Maybe it could be revised further? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Since you asked, I think that ALT3 is fine. How 'bout this for a shorter version, though: ALT4: "... that the Echoes of Life Tour by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu is directed by Mikiko, a choreographer of the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?" Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 19:07, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Given that this is a figure skating article, maybe Figureskatingfan might have some hook suggestions? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:29, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Henni147 and AlphaBetaGamma: I'm not sure I find the hook too enticing. Like, the fact that the performer and director were both in/at the Olympics is cool, but not the kind of thing that would make someone likely to read the full article. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @AlphaBetaGamma and Narutolovehinata5: Thank you very much for checking the hook and taking on this review in general. I hope, all issues have been fixed now. I wonder if the review template at the top needs to be updated to conclude the review? I'm not familiar with the system. Henni147 (talk) 10:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Reinstating tick for ALT4a only. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:23, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 7
[edit]Sequenza XIV
- ... that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio, in 2002 the last work in a series begun in 1958, was inspired by the artistry of Rohan de Saram including traditional Kandyan drumming? Source: [5]
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to come - Comment: This is one of the key works of 21st-century classical music.
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Overall: Hi Gerda Arendt, happy to do the DYK review. The article has a readable prose size of 4310 characters. It was created yesterday. Every paragraph in the body of the article is sourced. WP:EARWIG shows no copyright problems. QPQ has not yet been done. I have a minor quibble about the hook: it seems to me that it tries to convey too many individual facts. What about something simpler like
ALT1: ...that Sequenza XIV was composed in 2002 as Luciano Berio's final work in his series begun in 1958?
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- ALT2: ...that Sequenza XIV, composed for Rohan de Saram in 2002, is Luciano Berio's final work in his series begun in 1958? Phlsph7 (talk) 16:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing, and the suggestions. I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Mind. I believe that the one thing fascinating "Maestro Berio" (as he is called by the cellist) as well as the ordinary Main page reader is this drumming. We can rather do without the series if it's really too much. I can also imagine to improve the series article to make it a double hook. ALT1 is no option for me because some kind of reverence for the cellist (and drummer) was the motivation to write the article. Making him GA seemed harder ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ah I see. If we want to go without the series, we could use something like
- ALT3: ...that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio was inspired by the childhood experiences of cellist Rohan de Saram with Kandyan drumming?
- But I think your original suggestion also meets the DYK requirements so the decision may be more a matter of taste. Approved. Phlsph7(talk) 07:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I think that ALT3 is a bit smallish, - the childhood drumming is just part of the inspiration, the playing of one of the most inspiring cellists of all times should not be left out completely ;) - I learned of his death from a friend who is a cellist, and felt his enthusiasm remembering a live concert of Xenakis. Berio knew why he added to a series that had already been considered complete ("complete" recording in 1995), - it's an outstanding piece in every respect and deserves a little longer hook, imho. We can't use any of the pics, sadly, because de Saram's is not free, and Berio's is way too young for one of his last works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- One last alternative if we want to go for the full package: what do you think about the following, a version of ALT0 copy-edited only for better flow:
- ALT0a: ... that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio, completed in 2002 as the last work in a series begun in 1958, was inspired by Rohan de Saram's artistry, including traditional Kandyan drumming?
- Phlsph7 (talk) 10:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- I like it --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I think that ALT3 is a bit smallish, - the childhood drumming is just part of the inspiration, the playing of one of the most inspiring cellists of all times should not be left out completely ;) - I learned of his death from a friend who is a cellist, and felt his enthusiasm remembering a live concert of Xenakis. Berio knew why he added to a series that had already been considered complete ("complete" recording in 1995), - it's an outstanding piece in every respect and deserves a little longer hook, imho. We can't use any of the pics, sadly, because de Saram's is not free, and Berio's is way too young for one of his last works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing, and the suggestions. I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Mind. I believe that the one thing fascinating "Maestro Berio" (as he is called by the cellist) as well as the ordinary Main page reader is this drumming. We can rather do without the series if it's really too much. I can also imagine to improve the series article to make it a double hook. ALT1 is no option for me because some kind of reverence for the cellist (and drummer) was the motivation to write the article. Making him GA seemed harder ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
I don't think the hooks here would be very enticing to the average reader, but I won't object if someone else wants to promote it. Just noting a bit of queasiness. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Someone runs a series from 1958 to 2002, and you think that's not "enticing"? We have no room for that the series had been deemed complete in 1995, but someone made an exception. Someone plays cello and Indian drum, and you think that's not unusual? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think the part about completing a series started over 40 years earlier should be interesting to the average reader. Phlsph7 (talk) 09:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Completing a series of works over a long span of time is not unusual in classical music. The span of time between Shostakovich's first and last symphonies, for example, span the same number of years as that between the first and last of Berio's Sequenza. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:14, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- While interesting, ALT0a seems too unfocused (Phlsph7's original contention) to me as a promoter; is "for solo cello by Luciano Berio" necessary and could the rest be made more concise? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:59, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Completing a series of works over a long span of time is not unusual in classical music. The span of time between Shostakovich's first and last symphonies, for example, span the same number of years as that between the first and last of Berio's Sequenza. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:14, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 9
[edit]Manga and anime fandom in Poland
- ... that one of the oldest European manga and anime fandoms is located in Poland, dating to the mid-90s? Source: Reczulski (2023, pp. 117–118, 266) - book is in Polish, but open access as a pdf so a dedicated reader can translate it via machine translation, if you don't want to just AGF
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Overall: "One of the first" could readily be problematic, as with other "first" hooks. Are there any potential ALTs? Otherwise the article checks out. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Fair point. Here are some ALTs, backed up by the text (and refs cited). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ...that Polish manga and anime fandom arose in the 1990s and now numbers over 100,000 people?
- ALT2: ...that Polish manga and anime fandom created its first fan mangas and videos in the 1990s?
- Thank you! This looks ready to go now... AGF on the Polish sources. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 10
[edit]Santa Maria Maggiore, Venice
- ... that, since it was deconsecrated, the Church of Santa Maria Maggiore in Santa Croce, Venice, has been used as a stable and a tobacco warehouse and that its grounds now house a prison? Source: http://www.veneziamuseo.it/TERRA/Santa_Croce/Crose/crose_cie_mazor.htm https://cultura.gov.it/luogo/chiesa-di-santa-maria-maggiore-di-venezia https://www.invenicetoday.com/%5C/tour/chiese/Santa-Croce/Chiesa-di-Santa-Maria-Maggiore.htm https://storico.beniculturali.it/mibac/opencms/MiBAC/sito-MiBAC/Luogo/MibacUnif/Luoghi-della-Cultura/visualizza_asset.html?id=153604&pagename=57
Bogger (talk) 08:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
- The current hook is a bit hard to read and might need some trimming. How about:
- ALT1 ... that following its deconsecration, the Church of Santa Maria Maggiore in Venice and its grounds have been used as a stable, a tobacco warehouse, and a prison?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article also has a couple of stub tags (which it shouldn't have, since it's not a stub); both need to be removed before this is approved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Bogger: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Removed. ALT1 also fine by me.-Bogger (talk) 08:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article also has a couple of stub tags (which it shouldn't have, since it's not a stub); both need to be removed before this is approved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough. Mostly cited, though I added one citation needed tag. Earwig doesn't spot any violations, though I would recommend rephrasing "warehouse for a tobacco factory" if possible. The lede is too short, only a sentence, and this needs to be fixed before the article can be approved. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Beefed up the lede (though left the tag), added the missing citation, and paraphrased the tobacco reference. Thanks -Bogger (talk) 10:52, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Good to go. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:02, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Beefed up the lede (though left the tag), added the missing citation, and paraphrased the tobacco reference. Thanks -Bogger (talk) 10:52, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 15
[edit]John Moore (basketball)
- ... that after learning that UCLA's student body president was Black, John Moore's mother said "this is where he's going to school"?
- Source: "'You mean there are fifteen thousand students at this school, and out of all these people the student body president is black?' ... 'Well,' Johnny's mother said, 'this is where he's going to school.' "(Wooden: A Coach's Life)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ricot Joseph
- Comment: The source is offline. Let me know if more quotes are needed.
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Overall: Article is new enough. Hook is interesting, reads good, and is short enough. Everything in the article is cited. I read the entire article and just fixed a few minor things. Approving the hook. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Bagumba I'm a) not sure what the hook means precisely and b) feeling like it's quite trivia-like. Perhaps another hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: It's supposed to convey that the mother decided that her son would go to the school upon learning that their student body president was Black. Which part is unclear for you? In a certain sense, all DYK hooks are "trivia". Why do you feel it's a bgger issue here?—Bagumba (talk) 04:21, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 16
[edit]James Smart (police officer)
- ... that Keir Starmer described Chief Constable James Smart (pictured) as "one of the founding fathers of the Scottish Police"?
- Source: McGowan, John (30 November 2022). Policing the Metropolis of Scotland: A History of Police in The City & County of Edinburgh, 1833-1901 (Volume I). Turlough Publishers. p. 1554. Retrieved 15 October 2023.
- Source: Goldsmith, Alistair L. (1993). The First Chief Constable. Strathclyde Police. p. 8. Retrieved 14 October 2024.
Sahaib (talk) 09:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Sahaib, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 16 October and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I hadn't heard of the publisher used for the citaiton for the hook but the author looks like they are reliable, holding a PhD and having written on the history of Scottish police elsewher (and being a former police superintendent); hook fact is mentioned in the article and supported by the source; image is OK and looks to be public domain by virtue of age; I didn't pick up any issues with overly-close paraphrasing from the online sources; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 10:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sahaib and Dumelow: I'm not convinced this meets WP:DYKINT, especially for an international audience. Perhaps a hook on an event during his career would work better? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I added an alt hook. Sahaib (talk) 15:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Sahaib and Dumelow: I'm not convinced this meets WP:DYKINT, especially for an international audience. Perhaps a hook on an event during his career would work better? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Sahaib your hook currently says it was to demonstrate it was impracticable for the police to light the stairs but the article says it was to prove that it shouldn't lie with the homeowner and then was taken on by the police board. What does stairs mean in this context; I am presuming public streets like the Waverley Steps or the Vennel in Edinburgh? In reading the article I also came across a sentence I couldn't work out: "On 28 August 1850, Smart ended the practice of night constables deciding their hours and half hours with the exception of five and half past five." presumably "deciding" is the wrong word here? - Dumelow (talk) 17:18, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: you are correct, I changed it. (later in 1866 they no longer become the responsibility of police, so I can see why I got confused) The book "The First Chief Constable" is not available online, I went to the National Library of Scotland to use the book to create a draft, the full sentence from this edit "On 28 August 1850, Smart ended the practice of the night constables calling the hours and half hours with the exception of five and half past five." I do not know what that means. Sahaib (talk) 17:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I think ALT2 is OK. It used to be that wathchmen and the like would call out the hours of the clock; like the trope you see in old mediaeval films: "Six o'clock and all's well". That the Glasgow police did it is confirmed by p170 of Alison, Robert (1892). The Anecdotage of Glasgow: Comprising Anecdotes and Anecdotal Incidents of the City of Glasgow and Glasgow Personages. T. D. Morrison.. I think you could stick with "calling" or use "announcing" - Dumelow (talk) 17:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: you are correct, I changed it. (later in 1866 they no longer become the responsibility of police, so I can see why I got confused) The book "The First Chief Constable" is not available online, I went to the National Library of Scotland to use the book to create a draft, the full sentence from this edit "On 28 August 1850, Smart ended the practice of the night constables calling the hours and half hours with the exception of five and half past five." I do not know what that means. Sahaib (talk) 17:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Sahaib your hook currently says it was to demonstrate it was impracticable for the police to light the stairs but the article says it was to prove that it shouldn't lie with the homeowner and then was taken on by the police board. What does stairs mean in this context; I am presuming public streets like the Waverley Steps or the Vennel in Edinburgh? In reading the article I also came across a sentence I couldn't work out: "On 28 August 1850, Smart ended the practice of night constables deciding their hours and half hours with the exception of five and half past five." presumably "deciding" is the wrong word here? - Dumelow (talk) 17:18, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 17
[edit]Rich Romer
- ... that three-time Pizza Hut All-American Rich Romer later worked as an engineer?
- ALT1: ... that NFL player Rich Romer was a three-time Pizza Hut All-American? Source: Pizza Hut
- Reviewed:
~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
- Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Great work on the article! Both hooks are interesting and verified as being sourced in the article. ALT0 relies on this source to say he worked as an engineer. According to the About Us page for the East Greenbush Education Foundation, "The East Greenbush Education Foundation, Inc. is an audited 501(c)(3) non-profit organization whose sole purpose is to raise funds to support student achievement. Founded in 1985 and located in East Greenbush, NY, the Foundation is governed by a volunteer Board of Directors." I think this is a marginally reliable source. If there are concerns that this source is insufficiently reliable, I recommend using ALT1 instead. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- WikiOriginal-9, this hook is somewhat incomprehensible if you're not from the States. More clarity would be nice, or another hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure of a way to reword All-American if that's the issue. We can just decline this. That's fine. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's more the combination of "Pizza Hut" and "All-American" that is confusing. I've read the article and I'm still not sure what it means. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:42, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- It means he was named an All-American by Pizza Hut (Pizza Hut used to select All-American teams for some reason). ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's more the combination of "Pizza Hut" and "All-American" that is confusing. I've read the article and I'm still not sure what it means. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:42, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure of a way to reword All-American if that's the issue. We can just decline this. That's fine. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 19
[edit]John Green (basketball)
- ... that John Green was UCLA's leading scorer on the first of coach John Wooden's 12 Final Four teams?
- Source: "John Green, All American senior guard, was the team's high scorer with 559 points in 29 games, a 19.3 average." (The California Eagle) "At 6 feet 3, he started for the first of Wooden’s 12 NCAA Final Four teams." (Pioneer Press)
—Bagumba (talk) 20:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing. RecycledPixels (talk) 20:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- 1. New enough - Article created on the day of the nomination
- 2. Long enough - 4451 Readable prose size, not a stub
- 3. External policy compliance - . Well-sourced, neutral, and BLP-compliant. Spot checked sources 11, 19, 21, and 26 (11% of sources used) shows no copyvio or close paraphrasing
- 4. Presentable - No article improvement or citation needed tags.
- 5. Sourced - . Verified both sources provided, meets RS.
- 6. Hook short enough - Brief and to the point.
- 7. Hook interesting -
- 8. Images - - No image included for main page publication
- 9. QPQ - - Done.
- 10. Other - No problems.
- Overall: Pass. RecycledPixels (talk) 20:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 20
[edit]Głos Kolejarzy Ewakuowanych — Golos Evakuirovannykh Zheleznodorozhnikov
- ... that an organ of evacuated Polish railway workers called for unity with All-Russian trade unions around the time of the 1917 October Revolution?
- Source: Ludwik Bazylow, Jan Sobczak. Encyklopedia Rewolucji Październikowej. Wiedza Powszechna, 1987. p. 118
Soman (talk) 12:08, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Date, size, hook, neutrality, refs, copyvio spotcheck, QPQ - all in green. GTG. I just wonder whether a more interesting hook could be found, hmmm, maybe one based on the SDKPiL quote? @Soman: --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Dog
- ... that dogs (examples pictured) were domesticated from wolves over 14,000 years ago by hunter-gatherers, before the development of agriculture? Source: https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2010083118 https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(15)00432-7
ALT1: ... that humans have consumed dog (example pictured) meat for at least 14,000 years?Source: https://books.google.co.za/books?id=JwGZTQunH00C&pg=PA208&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false- Reviewed:
Wolverine XI (talk to me) 09:14, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Comments: ALT1 is going to make a lot of people upset. I should know, as I'm from South Korea, where dog meat is still eaten. BorgQueen (talk) 09:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- All the better for views if you ask me, but technically that hook would be about dog meat and thus it would fail WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE, so with regret I've struck it. ALT0 is available for review; might have a rummage for hooks myself. (Also, that image of 'a female dog nursing' is adorable.)--Launchballer 19:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Article received a GA review seven days before DYK nom, so it's new enough. It's definitely long enough, and I'm going to trust that the GA process addressed any potential concerns about sourcing. The hook is interesting, and the image is freely-licensed. QPQ is not required. Personally I think it would be nice to have an image comparing a dog to a wolf since the hook makes mention of both, but that's just my personal opinion. Overall, it seems good to go! Di (they-them) (talk) 12:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Now that I mention it, might I suggest this alt image? commons:File:Comparison of a wolf and a pug.png. Di (they-them) (talk) 12:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- That image is low-quality IMO, so no, not that one. I would instead prefer a husky since it looks somewhat similar to a wolf. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 12:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Now that I mention it, might I suggest this alt image? commons:File:Comparison of a wolf and a pug.png. Di (they-them) (talk) 12:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm doing a tick to make clear that this comment is not an objection, but just excerpts from the two sources verifying the hook fact. The earlier article says, "The researchers determined that dogs were probably domesticated from now-extinct wolves between 11,000 and 16,000 years ago — before humans began farming around 10,000 years ago.
"[6] and the more recent article pushes this timeline back further,[7] "Dogs were the first domesticated species and the only animal known to enter into a domestic relationship with people during the Pleistocene [...] dogs were domesticated in Siberia by 23,000 years ago, possibly while both people and wolves were isolated during the harsh climate of the Last Glacial Maximum. Dogs then accompanied the first people into the Americas and traveled with them as humans rapidly dispersed into the continent beginning 15,000 years ago [...] The earliest generally accepted dog dates to 15 ka (from the site of Bonn-Oberkassel, discussed below). However, claims for the existence of domestic dogs as early as 40 ka (22–28) have been made on the basis of morphological (22, 24–27), isotopic (22, 29), genetic (22, 28, 30), and contextual assessments (24, 31) of ancient canid remains. Yet, none of these potential domestication markers is fail-safe, owing to the fact that wolves and early domesticated dogs can be difficult to distinguish from each other.
" Rjjiii (talk) 00:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Feelie (Brave New World)
- ... that Aldous Huxley developed his "feelies" in response to the emergence of "talkies"?
- Source: Frost, Laura (2006). "Huxley's Feelies: The Cinema of Sensation in "Brave New World"". Twentieth Century Literature. 52 (4): 447. ISSN 0041-462X. "The "feelies," a cinema of titillating, pansensual stimulation, are clearly a response to the "talkies," as Huxley extends the innovation of synchronized sound to include all the senses."
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
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Articles created/expanded on October 23
[edit]Jugtown Historic District
- ... that a brass band from the New Jersey community of Jugtown was rumored to have drank and fought the police instead of playing at Ulysses S. Grant's funeral?
- ALT1: ... that an underground tunnel between two houses in what is now Jugtown Historic District was used to hide fugitive slaves? Source: Zink, Clifford (2024). Jugtown/Queenston: Jugtown Historic District. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton Landmark Publications, pp. 6-7
- ALT2: ... that a pottery's presence in a New Jersey village gave it the name Jugtown? Source: Zink, Clifford (2024). Jugtown/Queenston: Jugtown Historic District. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton Landmark Publications, p. 4
- Reviewed: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/The_Bear_season_2
Not sure where or how to add the QPQ? I've reviewed another article but not sure if I did it correctly. Lbal (talk) 22:40, 24 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article was expanded more than 5x, (from 314 to 9854 characters) within the allotted seven-day limit.[8] Earwig shows no outstanding issues, but some similar wording of common phrases. I don't think this is a problem. The article is sourced and neutral, however, I did take exception to minor issues, which I have noted in a separate section on the main article talk page. After thinking about it, I do not believe these issues rise to the level of interfering with the current DYK nomination. My main problem in that regard is that the material is slightly selective and excessively bland based on the sources which are anything but (for example, the Zink 2024 publication linked above is written in an incredibly interesting and exciting format, and many of the main points found there did not make their way into this article). As for the hooks, I have no real preference, but they all check out. I have struck ALT2 as it needs to be rewritten ("a pottery's presence" makes no sense). So in lieu of new hooks, I approve ALT0 and ALT1, which I have confirmed in the sources. ALT1 adds a bit more than appears in the current article, but this is implied by the existing text and I don't think that should hold it up. Per comments below, ALT2 is back in play, which I evidently misread in my haste to write a review. My apologies. Viriditas (talk) 09:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
@Lbal: could you make ALT1 slightly more explicit in the article? I agree with Viriditas that it can be inferred that the slaves were fugitives and hiding in the tunnel but would be hesitant to promote it with those stated in the hook but explicitly in the article where the citations are. Rjjiii (talk) 02:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I’m away for a bit, but when I return I can make the changes. I think the nom is inactive. Viriditas (talk) 03:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm back, and I'm going to address this now. Viriditas (talk) 08:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: I believe I have fixed the problem. Please verify. Viriditas (talk) 09:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good! I'll likely promote this soon, Rjjiii (talk) 04:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: I believe I have fixed the problem. Please verify. Viriditas (talk) 09:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm back, and I'm going to address this now. Viriditas (talk) 08:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
@Viriditas: I am active! Haven't been getting notifications for some reason. I would like to point out "pottery" in ALT2 refers to a pottery shop, the sources use a more antiquated term for it. Would rephrasing it that way put ALT2 back in commission? I can make the requested change for ALT1 in the article.
- Yeah, that makes sense. I restored it and crossed out my comments. Viriditas (talk) 03:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 25
[edit]Voltairine de Cleyre
- ... that Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) taught herself how to read at the age of four?
- Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. pp. 24–25. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT1: ... that Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) became an anti-authoritarian and anti-theist after her education at a Catholic convent? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. pp. 36–37. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT2: ... that Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) loved Scotland so much that she said if she could have made a living there, she never would have returned to the United States? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. pp. 117–118. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT3: ... that although Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) opposed American imperialism, she did not oppose the Spanish–American War, as she believed that the Spanish Empire needed to be broken up? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. pp. 122–123. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT4: ... that after Senator Joseph R. Hawley offered $1,000 to shoot an anarchist, Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) publicly accepted the challenge? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. p. 136. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT5: ... that after Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) was shot, the Hahnemann University Hospital did not remove any of the bullets due to its practice of homeopathy? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. p. 171. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT6: ... that Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) refused to press charges against Herman Helcher, who had attempted to murder her? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. p. 174. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT7: ... that the Norwegian press speculated that Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) intended to assassinate German Kaiser Wilhelm II, as their trips to Norway coincided? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. p. 181. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- ALT8: ... that despite losing her ability to move or speak due to illness, Voltairine de Cleyre (pictured) refused to accept last rites by scowling at the priest? Source: Avrich, Paul (1978). An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre. Princeton: Princeton University Press. pp. 235–236. ISBN 978-0-691-04657-0.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Victoria Espinosa
- Comment: Apologies for the number of hooks. I just found so many things about de Cleyre's biography interesting that I wanted to provide a good range of options.
Grnrchst (talk) 11:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: ALTs 0, 2, 4, 6, 7, or 8 are more interesting, and one of them should be chosen. Would have probably got a review sooner if there were fewer hooks to check. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Trisha Stafford-Odom
- ... that basketball coach Trisha Stafford-Odom left the Eagles to join the Eagles?
- ALT1: ... that women's basketball player Trisha Stafford-Odom was once compared to Charles Barkley for her play as a "scorer, rebounder and part-time enforcer"?
- Source: [11]
~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 02:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: WikiOriginal-9, the article is detailed, well-written, and well-sourced. The use of eagles as a pun in the hook makes it interesting, and both sources support the claim. Earwig shows that it is copyvio free. QPQ done. Good to go! —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 15:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Every Night (Hannah Diamond song)
- ... that "Every Night", released ten years ago today, was called "the smartest dumb music out there"?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marcia Moore (actress)
- Comment: For November 24, 2024, if possible.
Skyshiftertalk 19:34, 27 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Great hook! Might be a good candidate for the last/quirky hook. Article is well-sourced with online references; I verified the claim in the hook. Prose is neutral and well-worded; Earwig shows no copyvio. If I had to offer a minor critique, there's a bit of redundancy in the first paragraph of the Composition section: described
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two times after that, to attribute critic opinions. Perhaps the word choice could be varied a bit (eg using "called it", "labeled it", or "noted its production was similar to"). Nonetheless, the article is certainly DYK level already even without those edits! Frostly (talk) 07:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 26
[edit]Ornithoprion
- ... that Ornithoprion (pictured) was studied primarily using X-rays of its fossils?
- ALT1: ... that Ornithoprion (pictured) may have used its long rostrum to flip shelled prey off of the seabed while feeding? Source: https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/4261459#page/51/mode/1up
- ALT2: ... that Ornithoprion hertwigi (pictured) is named in honor of Oscar Hertwig, who proposed that the vertebrate skull evolved from fused bony scales? Source: https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/4261459#page/46/mode/1up
- Reviewed:
Gasmasque (talk) 18:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
- starting review--Kevmin § 02:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Article GA promotion new enough, and article long enough with full citations and neutral tone to prose. no copyvios or close paraphrasing detected in the writing, with 3 word groupings detected by earwig coming from specific terminology names and descriptors. I feel Alt0 is the strongest hook but I would suggest swapping radiography with x-rays.--Kevmin § 19:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Changed radiographs to X-rays, let me know if there are any further problems. I agree that Alt0 is probably the strongest hook, and it fits well with the given diagram of the skeleton. Gasmasque (talk) 17:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Article GA'd, no detected close paraphrasing or copyvios in spot checking. Article fully cited and hooks verified to sourcing. ALT0 is approved with main page appropriate image. Good to go.--Kevmin § 17:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 27
[edit]Diana Edwards-Jones
- ... that television director Diana Edwards-Jones was credited with introducing the practice of interspersing a short headline with the hour chimes of Big Ben during the title sequence of News at Ten? Source: Guardian and The Daily Telegraph
- ALT1: ... that television director Diana Edwards-Jones introduced earpieces to permit direct communication between a control room and newsreaders? Source: Guardian and The Daily Telegraph
- Reviewed:
EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 20:26, 27 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: High Earwig numbers reflect quotations and titles, not copyright violations. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Chiu Yuh-chuan
- ... that future Olympic weightlifter Chiu Yuh-chuan received a job offer in marketing after media coverage about his difficulty securing employment?
- Source: "舉重國手邱毓川失業 北市一公司願提供工作機會" [Weightlifting Champion Chiu Yuh-chuan Unemployed: A Company in Taipei Offers Job Opportunity]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). 1984-07-11. p. 10.
The above source was published on 11 July 1984. Chiu Yuh-chuan competed in the 1984 Summer Olympics, which took place between 28 July and 12 August 1984. The article notes:
From Google Translate:屏東縣唯一入選一九八四年奧運國家代表隊的舉重國手邱毓川,五次打破全國紀錄獲頒多面中正體育獎章,但自省立體專畢業迄今一年多卻苦於一職難求,經報導後,台北市慶宜股份有限公司深表同情,昨日特打長途電話到本報屏東採訪辦事處,表示願主動提供工作機會,解決邱毓川就職問題,熱忱感人。
台北市慶宜貿易有限公司進口科長李聰哲在電話中表示,該公司經營多種商品貿易,為一頗具規模公司,因閱報獲知舉重國手邱毓川一職難求困境,基於為國家培育選手立場,願提供推廣企劃工作機會,除每月待遇一萬八千元左右外,并有業績獎金制度,只要邱毓川願意屈就,該公司竭誠歡迎。
Chiu Yuh-chuan, the only national weightlifter from Pingtung County to be selected for the 1984 Olympics national team, broke national records five times and was awarded multiple Chiang Kai-shek Sports Medals. However, it has been more than a year since he graduated from the provincial three-dimensional college and he has been struggling to find a job. After reports, Taipei City Qingyi Co., Ltd. expresses its deep sympathy. Yesterday, it made a long-distance call to the Pingtung office of this newspaper to interview and expressed its willingness to proactively provide job opportunities to solve Chiu Yuh-chuan's employment problem. The enthusiasm was touching.
Li Congzhe, the import section chief of Taipei City Qingyi Trading Co., Ltd., said on the phone that the company is engaged in the trade of a variety of commodities and is a large-scale company. After reading the newspaper, he learned that the national weightlifter Chiu Yuh-chuan was in a difficult position. Based on the stance of cultivating athletes for the country, The company is willing to provide marketing and planning work opportunities. In addition to a monthly salary of about 18,000 yuan, there is also a performance bonus system. As long as Chiu Yuh-chuan is willing to give in, the company wholeheartedly welcomes him.
Cunard (talk) 07:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 14:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Expanded day before DYK, from 138 to 5600, and article is up to snuff. All the sources but SR are offline so I'll AGF; that reminds me... Cunard, kudos to you for expanding a PRODed stub with sourcing that can't be reached easily. I recommend fixing the lede by blending in the info about his Olympic career so that it looks less like the cookie-cutter stub it originally was or adding an ALT1 showing that he was still looking for work post-Olympics even after the pre-Olympics job offer, but consider this optional. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:08, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
The Crystal (tabloid)
- ... that The Crystal was one of few publications in early 20th-century China to regularly cover same-sex intimacy?
- Source: Kang, Wenqing (2006). Male Same-Sex Relations in China, 1900–1950 (PhD thesis). University of California, Santa Cruz. p. 169. ProQuest 305350088. "In China during the first half of the twentieth century, many newspapers circulated in big cities, but only Crystal in Shanghai and Heavenly Wind in Tianjin regularly had discussions and stories about same-sex relations. "
- ALT1: ... that The Crystal contained regular coverage of Shanghai's courtesans? Source: Hershatter, Gail (1999). Dangerous Pleasures: Prostitution and Modernity in Twentieth-Century Shanghai. Berkeley: University of California Press. p. 17. ISBN 978-0-520-20439-3. "Perhaps the most famous of the tabloids was Crystal (in Chinese, jingbao), published every three days beginning in 1919 for more than two decades. Crystal overlapped with the guidebooks in content, but devoted a great deal of column space to tracking relationships between courtesans and the city’s elite, as well as personality quirks and quarrels among courtesans, business successes or reversals, reminiscences about famous courtesans of earlier times, and lists of courtesan-house names and phone numbers."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tore Skeie
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: On good faith. As this contains sources not accessible by internet. 184.153.21.19 (talk) 02:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 29
[edit]Carrlyn Bathe
- ... that sports broadcaster Carrlyn Bathe started her career as a member of the Los Angeles Kings Ice Crew?
- Source: [12]
- ALT1: ... that Carrlyn Bathe met her husband after he sent her gear from his clothing brand? Source: [13]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jopie Roosenburg-Goudriaan
Kimikel (talk) 04:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
- Will be claiming this for review and hope to get to it soon. Among the two hooks, ALT1 is probably the more unusual or interesting once since it's less reliant on NHL knowledge (and thus specialist knowledge), although I would suggest also putting "sports broadcaster" before her name. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination, and I didn't find any close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been completed. Both hooks are cited inline and verified (I am accepting the use of Facebook and Twitter as the FB link is the official Kings page and the Twitter link is her own, so meets the guidelines at WP:SPS). As mentioned above, the second hook is the better hook as it's less reliant on familiarity with the NHL or ice hockey. Good to go. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 30
[edit]Al-Altan
- ... that the Mongol princess Al-Altan was rumoured to have poisoned her brother Ögedei Khan?
- Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 168–169.
- ALT1: ... that although the details of Al-Altan's 1246 execution were censored, an unintentional slip in a chronicle reveals who killed her? Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 187–188.
- ALT2: ... that although Eljigidei was originally rewarded for killing the Mongol princess Al-Altan, he was later hunted down and executed in revenge? Source: For his reward, Broadbridge 2018, pp. 187–188; for his death, pp. 220–221.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diaspora Revolt (2nd nomination)
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
- I will review this nomination. – Editør (talk) 10:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article is new enough (GA passed on 30 October 2024), is long enough (8743 characters of prose), has no copyright violations (per GA review), and is presentable (per GA review and readthrough). The hook is cited to a reliable offline source (accepted in good faith) and interesting. ALT1 is too complicated and ALT2 centers around her executor. QPQ was done. – Editør (talk) 11:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Valse in A minor (Chopin)
- ... that the discovery of a new waltz by Chopin (pictured) has been announced by The New York Times?
Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 11:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
- Note to DYK reviewer: article was moved per talk page discussion ("Title"). I have tried my best to update the templates; there seems to be no need to move this DYK subpage itself. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 13:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Updated again due to a second page move, this time without discussion. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 18:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- New enough, long enough and well-written. The hook is good and supported by an inline citation to a reliable source (in fact, the rediscovery has been reported quite widely in civilised media). QPQ has been made and copyright tag of the image is fine. There should be no problems. One thing to watch out for before promoting would perhaps be if there are any major updates to the article between the review and the posting, considering it is a bit of a developing story. Nice article, great piece for DYK. Kind regards, Yakikaki (talk) 15:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Regulus (painting)
- ... that a man stabbed the painting Regulus (pictured) because he disliked the "misty state of the picture"?
- Source: * Beaumont, Matthew (2020). "Reason Dazzled: The All-Seeing and the Unseeing in Turner's Regulus". British Art Studies (15). doi:10.17658/issn.2058-5462/issue-15/mbeaumont. ISSN 2058-5462.
ALT1: ... that the painting Regulus (pictured) depicts a Roman general who was blinded by the sun? Source: * Beaumont, Matthew (2020). "Reason Dazzled: The All-Seeing and the Unseeing in Turner's Regulus". British Art Studies (15). doi:10.17658/issn.2058-5462/issue-15/mbeaumont. ISSN 2058-5462.ALT2: ... that J. M. W. Turner repainted Regulus (pictured) by "driving" white paint into the center of the canvas? Source: * Cust, Lionel (1895). "The Portraits of J. M. W. Turner, R.A." The Magazine of Art. Open Court Publishing Co. pp. 245–251.- Reviewed:
CitrusHemlock 13:11, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi CitrusHemlock, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 30 October and far exceeds minimum length; it is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable (largely offline) sources; I didn't pick up on any issues with overly close paraphrasing; image is obviously magnificent and PD by virtue of age; no QPQ is required as nominator has only one prior DYK credit; ALT01 is stated in the article and checks out to source cited. I have struck ALT1 as the article states there is doubt that Regulus himself appears in the piece and ALT2 as the article only says that "Gilbert claims" the driving in of the paint was done. Happy to consider alternative hooks if you want to suggest any? - Dumelow (talk) 14:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: Thanks for reviewing the nom so quickly! I was a bit sloppy with the phrasing of the ALTs, the first could probably be rephraised to "...that the painting Regulus is based on a Roman general who was blinded by the sun?" and the second "...that J. M. W. Turner reportedly repainted Regulus by "driving" white paint into the center of the canvas?" Regardless, the stabbing is the most compelling hook in my opinion, but any of them would work well. CitrusHemlock 17:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 31
[edit]Mountain Landscape
- ... that the painting Mountain Landscape is said to defy photographic reproduction, as its immersive depth and luminosity can only be fully experienced in person?
- Source: Hertzlieb, Gregg (Fall/Winter 2009-2010). "Frederic Edwin Church: Mountain Landscape". Valparaiso Poetry Review. Valparaiso University. XI (1).
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Burrito Express: Template:Did you know nominations/Disputes on Wikipedia; Template:Did you know nominations/It's OK I'm OK
Viriditas (talk) 06:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Hook is interesting, good to go. Sahaib (talk) 23:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 1
[edit]The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate
- ... that an Indiana university argued in court that The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate, a 1914 painting, was too modern for their art collection in 2024?
- Source: Aguiar, Annie (July 19, 2024). "To Sell Prized Paintings, a University Proclaims They're Not 'Conservative'". The New York Times. Retrieved November 7, 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sonya Friedman; Template:Did you know nominations/Nikolaus Mollyn
Viriditas (talk) 04:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting painting, covered well and detailed on fine sources, subscription sources accepted AGF. I am less happy with the hook. My understanding - which of course may be wrong - is not that they found it too modern, but that they thought those who had bought it earlier should have found it too modern, which is a completely different thing. I would prefer to get a bit more info in the hook about the subject than "a 1914 painting" - painter, style, subject, whatever. The title alone didn't prepare me for the beautiful thing I saw, and the hook would not have made me look, - it was your name that hooked me ;) - If you still want that hook, I'll approve it, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: This controversy is covered by the NYT,[14] so I won't go into it too much here other than to say that this subject, American Impressionist Childe Hassam (1859–1935), was called "conservative to the core" by New Yorker art critic Peter Schjeldahl in 2004, and that is the accepted opinion by art historians. To address this slightly further, Hassam embraced an older, antiquated kind of modernism dating to about the 1870s, which represented the art of the generation before him. Ironically by the time the American art world accepted Hassam as status quo, perhaps by the time of the Armory Show of 1913 or thereabouts, the time of the American Impressionists had come and gone. Hassam was on record expressing his extreme displeasure at the ascendancy of the new Cubism, so his conservativsm as an artist was well known. I won't go into Hassam's social conservatism, as there is quite a bit written on that subject, similar to that of Renoir, and it's somewhat separate from his conservative approach to art. The quirky nature of the hook is centered around a 110-year-old painting by an artist who vocally objected to the trajectory of modern art in 1913 and yet was considered "too modern" by Valparaiso University in 2024 based on a specious legal argument that hinges on the definition and interpretation of "conservative" art, a definition that is disputed by art historians and legal experts. I should like to add one final thing: while writing a series of articles about this topic, I found that the legal argument made by Valparaiso University doesn't hold up based on the history of art. It turns out that the techniques and philosophy found in the Hudson River School, attributed to its founder Thomas Cole, which forms the underlying basis of Valparaiso's argument that Hassam's work is too modern to be included in the university collection, are in fact, almost identical to the working technique and philosophy of Childe Hassam. I laughed out loud when I realized this (and I think I woke up my neighbors at 2 AM) because it means Valparaiso's case should never have been approved by the courts. It turns out that Hassam used the same technique that Cole talks about in the 1840s and 1850s. This involves "creating compositions of both representational and imaginative landscapes, where the artist creates a fusion of what is both in the natural world and in the mind on the canvas". Hassam famously did this throughout his career, most notably in the painting Point Lobos, Carmel (1914) to such an extent, that the artist he was working with, Francis McComas (1874-1938), had a fit and complained to his wife about Hassam's conservative, anti-modernist approach, and the incident made its way into the history books. To summarize: I think it's possible you missed the point I was making. With that said, I am open to creating new hooks as always. Viriditas (talk) 00:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, to respond to the comment in your edit history, no, it's not supposed to be inside baseball, and if it comes off that way, it definitely needs a new hook. I will present others to choose from, but it doesn't look like you'll be around. I can make a request on DYK to have others look. Viriditas (talk) 08:54, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: This controversy is covered by the NYT,[14] so I won't go into it too much here other than to say that this subject, American Impressionist Childe Hassam (1859–1935), was called "conservative to the core" by New Yorker art critic Peter Schjeldahl in 2004, and that is the accepted opinion by art historians. To address this slightly further, Hassam embraced an older, antiquated kind of modernism dating to about the 1870s, which represented the art of the generation before him. Ironically by the time the American art world accepted Hassam as status quo, perhaps by the time of the Armory Show of 1913 or thereabouts, the time of the American Impressionists had come and gone. Hassam was on record expressing his extreme displeasure at the ascendancy of the new Cubism, so his conservativsm as an artist was well known. I won't go into Hassam's social conservatism, as there is quite a bit written on that subject, similar to that of Renoir, and it's somewhat separate from his conservative approach to art. The quirky nature of the hook is centered around a 110-year-old painting by an artist who vocally objected to the trajectory of modern art in 1913 and yet was considered "too modern" by Valparaiso University in 2024 based on a specious legal argument that hinges on the definition and interpretation of "conservative" art, a definition that is disputed by art historians and legal experts. I should like to add one final thing: while writing a series of articles about this topic, I found that the legal argument made by Valparaiso University doesn't hold up based on the history of art. It turns out that the techniques and philosophy found in the Hudson River School, attributed to its founder Thomas Cole, which forms the underlying basis of Valparaiso's argument that Hassam's work is too modern to be included in the university collection, are in fact, almost identical to the working technique and philosophy of Childe Hassam. I laughed out loud when I realized this (and I think I woke up my neighbors at 2 AM) because it means Valparaiso's case should never have been approved by the courts. It turns out that Hassam used the same technique that Cole talks about in the 1840s and 1850s. This involves "creating compositions of both representational and imaginative landscapes, where the artist creates a fusion of what is both in the natural world and in the mind on the canvas". Hassam famously did this throughout his career, most notably in the painting Point Lobos, Carmel (1914) to such an extent, that the artist he was working with, Francis McComas (1874-1938), had a fit and complained to his wife about Hassam's conservative, anti-modernist approach, and the incident made its way into the history books. To summarize: I think it's possible you missed the point I was making. With that said, I am open to creating new hooks as always. Viriditas (talk) 00:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Annie Huggett
- ... that as a teenager in the 1900s, Annie Huggett organised suffragette meetings at her local pub?
- Source: "Annie Huggett was born Annie Clara French in Halstead, Essex, in 1892 ... Though Annie was never arrested, she was very much part of the suffragette movement, and organised meetings for the cause in the former George Inn in Barking Broadway – known then as the Three Lamps – when she was just 18." from: Hedges-Stocks, Zoah (21 September 2016). "Post Memories: Women's centre named after Barking suffragette Annie Huggett". Barking and Dagenham Post. Retrieved 28 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that at 103 years old, Annie Huggett was the oldest surviving suffragette at the time of her 1996 death? Source: "Annie was proud to be both the country’s oldest surviving suffragette and the longest card-carrying member of the Labour Party. ,,, The Red Flag was sung at Annie’s funeral in 1996 when she was laid to rest in Rippleside Cemetery." from the same source
- ALT2: ... that because of her republican beliefs, Annie Huggett's family hid from her the telegram sent by Elizabeth II to mark a British person's 100th birthday? Source: "He last saw Annie in May 1992 on her 100th birthday and remembers two cards being pride of place on her mantelpiece – one was from the Labour Party, the other was from Barking Town FC ... He said both were very important to her – but there was one birthday message that certainly wasn’t on display: her message from the Queen. When Gerry asked Annie’s daughter about its whereabouts he was told that they had hidden it for fear of offending her as she was a lifelong and staunch republican." from the same source
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Johnny Fripp
Dumelow (talk) 08:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing... New enough, long enough, reads well. Will go through rest soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 08:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- ... No copyvio issues. QPQ provided. Hooks all good and are in article and sources. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
David Hilchen
- ... that David Hilchen played a key role in the establishment of Renaissance humanism in the area of the present-day Baltic states? Source: Viiding 2024, p. 119-120
Yakikaki (talk) 15:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting life and work, on few but fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the interesting short hook! I have a few wishes for the article: 1) give him an infobox, or it looks as if it was an article about a coat of arms, 2) avoid "would" - everything is now past, 3) bring the refs above the cited sources - no idea why German and others have it differently, but in English, that's normal, 4) formal the one source that's not yet among Cited sources like the others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Gerda! I will go through the article and make some of the improvements you suggest, and certainly change the order of refs and cited sourced. I really dislike infoboxes though. Yakikaki (talk) 18:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- ...though upon reflection, in this case you're right, an infobox makes the coat of arms look less awkward. Added. Thanks again Gerda! Yakikaki (talk) 19:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Gerda! I will go through the article and make some of the improvements you suggest, and certainly change the order of refs and cited sourced. I really dislike infoboxes though. Yakikaki (talk) 18:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Arthur France
- ... that Arthur France founded the first West Indian carnival in Europe?
- Source: ref 5 (url:https://lucas.leeds.ac.uk/article/the-leeds-west-indian-carnival-is-fifty) 'The Carnival in Leeds reached its fiftieth consecutive performance in August 2017, proudly maintaining its original title: The Leeds West Indian Carnival (LWIC). It was the first Caribbean-style street carnival in Europe' .. 'Nevis-born Arthur France ... pulled together the committee that created the early carnivals in Leeds'
- ALT1: ... that when Arthur France founded the Leeds West Indian Carnival in 1967, it was the first Caribbean carnival in Europe? Source: same source
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Trilobite Wilderness
Chaiten1 (talk) 20:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new, long enough and neutral. It is sourced with inline citations. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports no crucial text similarities commenting "violation unlikely". Both hooks are well-formatted and interesting.Their length is within limit. They are accurate with reference given inline. QPQ was done. Good to go. CeeGee 10:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Peter Capaldi
- ... that Doctor Who star Peter Capaldi (pictured) was a fan of the series as a child?
- ALT1: ... that Twelfth Doctor actor Peter Capaldi (pictured) was a fan of Doctor Who as child? Source: https://ew.com/article/2014/08/01/once-upon-time-lord/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dune (Kenshi Yonezu song)
Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
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- Might be interesting to note Capaldi's age when he played the Doctor, then! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Light Vessel 93
- ... that Light Vessel 93 (pictured) was converted into a photography studio?
- Source: "A 40-metre-long former lighthouse vessel and celebrity photo studio up for sale in Royal Victoria Dock for £595,000 through Riverhomes." from: Clover, Jack (1 September 2021). "Lighthouse ship that played host to a Bond girl for sale for £595k". The Standard. Retrieved 30 October 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Al-Shaykh Badr
- Comment: Could run as a double-hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95, if desired
Dumelow (talk) 16:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: @Dumelow, nice work on this article. Do you still want to run this as a double hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95, because that nomination has already been reviewed? Epicgenius (talk) 01:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Epicgenius, I am happy for them to run separately. Was just putting the option out there as there is usually a backlog of approved hooks - Dumelow (talk) 09:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- All right, then. My previous approval is unchanged. Epicgenius (talk) 14:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Dune (Kenshi Yonezu song)
- ... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" composed by Kenshi Yonezu has a music video that was viewed over one million times over the span of less than a week on the Japanese video-sharing site NicoNico?
- ALT1: ... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" written by Kenshi Yonezu for Hatsune Miku's 10th anniversary features lyrics about the demise of life? Source: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2017/10/31/music/kenshi-yonezu-hopes-fireworks-new-album-bootleg/
- ALT2: ... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" worked by Kenshi Yonezu is much slower compared to many other Vocaloid songs, at only 95 BPM? Source: https://natalie.mu/music/pp/hachi_ryo/page/3
- Reviewed:
ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 09:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
I made a small copy edit but beyond that the content is fine, earwig has less then 10% overlap. QPQ not need congrats on your first DYK! Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- @OlifanofmrTennant: Thanks! But it seems the DYK template not working well? ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 18:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 2
[edit]Patrick J. Ryan (chaplain)
- ... that after the liberation of Rome, U.S. Army chaplain Patrick Ryan celebrated a Mass of Thanksgiving in the Church of Santa Maria degli Angeli e dei Martiri for 10,000 people?
- Source: "Cardinal Presides At Historic Service In Liberated Rome". The Nebraska Register. June 18, 1944. Retrieved 30 July 2024.
~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 00:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Darth Stabro, review follows: article promoted to GA on 3 November; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources in a spot check; hook fact is interesting, stated in article and supported by citations (I note one source says "almost 10,000" and one says "more than 10,000" so I think you are OK just stating 10,000); a QPQ has been carried out; my only query is on the image: do you have confirmation that it is a work of a US military person, I couldn't see anything in the source? It is likely to be the case but we should confirm - Dumelow (talk) 18:54, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Howdy Dumelow, the photographer is a historical researcher and I can't imagine where else it would be from other than an official photo; however you're right, it's not 100%, and I don't have the time to try to confirm it this week - probably best to do it without the photo. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 14:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Darth Stabro, no worries. Happy to approve to run without image - Dumelow (talk) 14:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Codex Monacensis (X 033)
- ... that a manuscript of the New Testament was bound with the books in the wrong order, to which a scholar decried "[he] has messed everything up"?
- Source: [1]
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Stephen Walch (talk) 18:12, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Stephen: this article, promoted to GA on November 1, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio or close paraphrase. Hook sourced, short enough, and interesting. QPQ does not need to be done. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 02:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Stephen Walch and Tenpop421: Would something closer to the article's text like below not be more clear. In the original hook "[he]" seems to refer to the scholar at first.
- ALTX... that a manuscript of the New Testament was bound in the wrong order, to which a scholar decried "the bookbinder has messed everything up"?
- Feel free to cross off the hook above if not interested, Rjjiii (talk) 02:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: That will suit me, Rjjiii. :) Stephen Walch (talk) 13:34, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Stephen Walch and Tenpop421: Would something closer to the article's text like below not be more clear. In the original hook "[he]" seems to refer to the scholar at first.
References
- ^ Gregory, Caspar René (1900). Textkritik des Neuen Testaments. Vol. 1. Leipzig: J.C. Hinrichs. pp. 82–83.
Oscar Goodman (basketball)
- ... that Oscar Goodman is New Zealand's only global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree since 2002?
TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
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- What's a "global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree"? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Goodman has participated in three FIBA sanctioned tournaments. The first was just a regional competition for countries in Oceania. The second was a tournament for countries in Asia (and/including Oceania). The third was for countries around the world. I use the term global to mean a tournament open to worldwide/global contestants. Such tournaments select honorary teams to recognize the best performers in the tournament. These teams are called all-tournament teams and the players chosen are honorees. Sometimes the tournament will select a best five (the first team) and a next best five (the second team).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Amer Ghalib
- ... that Democrat mayor Amer Ghalib endorsed Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election?
- ALT1 ... that mayor of Hamtramck Amer Ghalib worked with what was believed to be the first all-Muslim city council in the United States?
- Source: https://archive.today/E7zg4
- ALT2 ... that the Hamtramck city council led by mayor Amer Ghalib banned the pride flag from publicly owned flagpoles?
- Source: https://apnews.com/article/hamtramck-michigan-lgbtq-flags-cb4a05064e5cc6882f3072966e66a413
Sahaib (talk) 23:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
- I will take this review. Dwkaminski (talk) 12:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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Review comments:
- I don't see the support for the statement "A member of the Democratic Party, he worked with what was believed to be the first all-Muslim city council in the United States." in the newsweek reference. It should be referenced to the fox news website. I can't read the NY Times reference but AGF.
- I don't see the support for the statement "Ghalib acknowledged their disagreements on key issues but that he believed that Trump would end the Israel–Hamas war." in the two references given
- Earwig copyvio detector shows 13.0% - violation unlikely
- @Sahaib: Overall very good. Just minor sourcing issues listed above. Please fix and I will approve. Dwkaminski (talk) 13:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dwkaminski: sorry about the sources, a lot were added by another user (see history). The Newsweek source states that he was a member of the Democratic Party whilst the New York Times sources the rest. The Newsweek sources states "acknowledging some disagreements with the former president" and in the New York Times it states that "President Biden’s support of Israel and a belief that Mr. Trump will end the conflict in the Middle East." You can view the source in its archived form. Sahaib (talk) 13:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Sahaib: All good. approved! Dwkaminski (talk) 14:10, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Personally I'm not sure this is interesting enough for DYK. We saw plenty of people cross party lines to endorse Biden or Harris, and I don't believe those would be interesting enough for DYK either. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: I have added some alt hooks. Sahaib (talk) 17:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- The alt hooks are much more interesting than what was originally proposed, which seemed relatively run of the mill. Thanks for the additions @Sahaib:. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: I have added some alt hooks. Sahaib (talk) 17:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 3
[edit]Saybrook Colony
- ... that the Saybrook Colony was sold to Connecticut for annual payment of 180 pounds of one-third wheat, one-third peas, and one-third rye or barley?
- ALT1: ... that Oliver Cromwell attempted to emigrate to the Saybrook Colony, but was prevented from doing so? Source: Dean, John Ward (1866). The Story of the Embarkation of Cromwell and His Friends for New England.
- ALT2: ... that the Saybrook Colony was besieged for several months during the Pequot War? Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Pequot-War
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Overall: Hook and article should be updated to include the correct statistic. Looks good to go. Thanks for doing the correction so quickly. Great work on this! PersusjCP (talk) 17:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Cathedral Cemetery
... that Cathedral Cemetery was the first Catholic cemetery established in Philadelphia?
- Source: It was founded in 1849 by the Archdiocese of Philadelphia and is the first catholic cemetery founded in Philadelphia. (guidetophilly.com)
- ALT1: ... that over 50 members of the 69th Pennsylvania Infantry are interred at Cathedral Cemetery in Philadelphia? Source: The cemetery contains the burial of over 50 members of the 69th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, a volunteer regiment of Irish immigrants that fought at the Battle of Gettysburg and other major battles of the American Civil War. (Keels - page 97)
- ALT2: ... that the funds from the sale of burial lots at Cathedral Cemetery in Philadelphia were used for the construction of the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul? Source: The cemetery was named Cathedral Cemetery since funds raised by the sale of burial lots were intended for the construction of the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul. (Keels - page 91)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Amer Ghalib
Dwkaminski (talk) 19:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The article exceeds the 1,500-character minimum of readable prose. The information is succinct and informative, written in a neutral tone, with no apparent bias or promotional language. While the article is sourced adequately, it could benefit from a few more inline citations in the "Notable burials" section (Please note that all of the individuals listed can be verified via their respective Wikipedia pages, but citations linking to reliable secondary sources would strengthen the section). I checked for potential plagiarism or close paraphrasing using online tools, and the content seems original. I noticed the DYK submission currently lacks an image, the free image in the article would enhance the article's visual appeal and could engage readers more effectively. A nice read, all three hooks are valid and more or less interesting. For me it's good to go. el.ziade (talkallam) 13:29, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
ALT0 is not accurate. The infant Ann White was buried at St. Mary's Roman Catholic Church (Philadelphia) in 1765, almost a century before this cemetery was founded.[15][16][17]Rjjiii (talk) 02:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: Thanks for this catch. I've updated the wikipedia page to read "the first of 12 diocesan cemeteries built in the Philadelphia area". I think the other ALTs are fine so I will not propose an alternate to ALT0. Dwkaminski (talk) 14:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Marie Denizard
- ... that Marie Denizard (pictured) was the first woman to stand as a candidate in a French presidential election even though French women did not achieve suffrage until 1944?
- Reviewed:
MumphingSquirrel (talk) 00:23, 12 November 2024 (UTC).
- ALT1 ... that Marie Denizard (pictured) stood as a candidate in a French presidential election in 1913 even though French women did not achieve suffrage until 1944? same sources as ALT, a slight rephrasing. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 01:10, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
The article is quite long and very well written so I can excuse the fact that it is not quite as fresh as it should be. I am more concerned about the fact that I can find almost nothing about this woman via Google, Google Books, or Google Scholar that was not published after the French Wikipedia's article about her. It seems so unlikely that the first woman to stand as a candidate for president of France should be so little known. I was able to find just enough to ascertain that she did indeed exist, but I am still a bit uneasy. MumphingSquirrel, do you have access to the 1910s sources cited in the article? Surtsicna (talk) 19:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi Surtsicna thanks for the prompts. I have now added url links to the 1910 docs which are accessible online. Hope this helps confirm her candidacy - she really has been one of the notable women forgotten by history until recently MumphingSquirrel (talk) 16:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wonderful. Thanks. It is quite astonishing that she was so thoroughly forgotten. Perhaps DYK can help change that! Surtsicna (talk) 22:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Gail Damerow
- ... that farmer, teacher, and author Gail Damerow was described by Grist magazine as "poultry's Cesar Millan"?
- ALT1: ... that Gail Damerow's book described by the New York Times as the "authoritative book on ice cream" was created because of the lack of good recipes in her ice cream maker's recipe booklet? Source: "The scoop on ice cream" - The Knoxville News-Sentinel
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Boxheim Documents
SilverserenC 01:30, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting hook but slight problems that could be resolved before I can complete a final confirmation for it to be approved for DYK. Overall the article has no copyright problems and both the hooks are mentioned in the article. But the problem is related to how the hooks are mentioned in the article. As I see when it comes to ALT1, it mentions that ' that Gail Damerow's book described by the New York Times as the "authoritative book on ice cream" was created because of the lack of good recipes in her ice cream maker's recipe booklet?. However in the article where the hook ('Awards and Honors') is mentioned, it just states 'described by The New York Times as the authoritative book on ice cream'. Hope you can fix this issue by adding more of the ALT1's fact here. The first hook is fine. So just fix the stated issue and after that I can give green light for your article for DYK. - Toadboy123 (talk) 09:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Toadboy123, do you mean the part of the hook on why the book was created? Because that's in the beginning of the Career section, with the source I gave above. SilverserenC 22:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Silver seren I suggest that you mention the hook also in the 'Awards and Honors' section so that readers can easily notice it when they read the article. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Toadboy123, I wasn't aware of that being a requirement for hooks? I've had a number of hooks that involved multiple parts of an article. And the info about the inspiration for the book doesn't really fit in an Awards section, particularly since it has to do with events in her life and where she was living. SilverserenC 22:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- In that case, then the article is all good to go then. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Toadboy123, I wasn't aware of that being a requirement for hooks? I've had a number of hooks that involved multiple parts of an article. And the info about the inspiration for the book doesn't really fit in an Awards section, particularly since it has to do with events in her life and where she was living. SilverserenC 22:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Silver seren I suggest that you mention the hook also in the 'Awards and Honors' section so that readers can easily notice it when they read the article. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Toadboy123, do you mean the part of the hook on why the book was created? Because that's in the beginning of the Career section, with the source I gave above. SilverserenC 22:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Fukushima nuclear accident
- ... that residents evacuated in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear accident were exposed to so little radiation that radiation-induced health effects are likely to be below detectable levels?
- Source: "Outside the geographical areas most affected by radiation, even in locations within Fuku-
shima prefecture, the predicted risks remain low and no observable increases in cancer
above natural variation in baseline rates are anticipated" page 8: https://iris.who.int/bitstream/handle/10665/78218/9789241505130_eng.pdf;jsessionid=5D2A9C6FCDE7BA3C9686CED940B05E3A?sequence=1- ALT1: ... that during the Fukushima nuclear accident officials were told not to use the phrase "core meltdown" in order to conceal the meltdown until they officially recognized it two months after the accident? Source: " Tepco asked a third-party panel to investigate the matter and the panel released a report on 16 June saying the company’s then-president, Masataka Shimizu, had instructed officials not to use the words "core meltdown"." https://www.neimagazine.com/news/tepco-concealed-core-meltdowns-during-fukushima-accident-4931915/
- ALT2: ... that the Fukushima nuclear accident was foreseeable and preventable? Source: "The accident "cannot be regarded as a natural disaster," the panel's chairman, Tokyo University professor emeritus Kiyoshi Kurokawa, wrote in the report. "It was a profoundly manmade disaster -- that could and should have been foreseen and prevented. And its effects could have been mitigated by a more effective human response."" https://www.smh.com.au/world/fukushima-nuclear-accident--manmade-not-natural--disaster-20120705-21jrl.html
- Reviewed:
Czarking0 (talk) 20:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- @Czarking0: I'll start by addressing WP:DYKNEW. This article last appeared at In the news on 12 April 2011, and the on this day on 11 March 2023. This was over one year ago, so it can go on the main page again.
- The article recently became a good article so it is eligible for DYK. Earwig's is not working so i'll assume good faith when it comes to copyvios. QPQ not needed.
- I'll review ALT0 (I think it is the most interesting). The hook matches the article.
- I'm worried about the source for this hook because it is a preliminary report, which uses predictions of health effects rather than observations. It also doesn't say about the evacuations and also says
In the highest dose location ... For leukaemia, the lifetime risks are predicted to increase by up to around 7% over baseline cancer rates in males exposed as infants
However, a 2020 source says thatNo adverse health effects among Fukushima residents have been documented that are directly attributable to radiation exposure from the FDNPS accident
. So I'll approve, with caution. ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Jiangwan Racecourse
- ... that the Jiangwan Racecourse (pictured) hosted horse races, a golf club, and prisoners of war?
- Source: Sports facilities: Chen Yangyang (陈洋阳) (5 February 2016). 老上海体育建筑遗存:江湾跑马厅民国时期面貌考 参考网 [Remains of Old Shanghai Sports Buildings: A Study of the Appearance of the Jiangwan Racecourse during the Republic of China Period]. Sports Research (in Chinese). 4. Archived from the original on 21 April 2024. Retrieved 3 November 2024 – via Back Issue Magazine Reading Platform and Reference Network.;
- ALT1: ... that British forces severed a Chinese railway line after an aircraft was forced to land at the Jiangwan Racecourse (pictured)? Source: "Firm Action by British Military in Shanghai". The North-China Herald. Shanghai. 20 August 1927. pp. 309–310. Retrieved 3 November 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Benjamin Franklin Shumard
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:13, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Chris Woodrich, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 3 November and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I am not familiar with all of the sources (particularly the none-English ones) but happy to AGF that they are all reliable; image looks to be PD (as was in public domain at URAA date); hooks facts are mentioned in the article and check out to source cited, my preference is probably for ALT0 as the connection between the aircraft landing and dismantling the railway is not obvious to the reader; a QPQ has been carried out; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraprasing in a spotcheck and Earwig doesn't flag up any issues. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 16:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
St John the Evangelist Church, Islington
- ... that Augustus Pugin called St John the Evangelist Church, Islington a "deformity", which was refuted by Joseph Hansom?
- Source: Historic England. "Islington – St John the Evangelist". Taking Stock. Quote: "Pugin castigated the Romanesque Revival building as ‘the most original combination of modern deformity that has been executed for some time past’. In response, the design was defended by Joseph Hansom in The Builder."
- Joseph Hansom. 1 April 1843. "The Present State of Ecclesiastical Architecture in England". The Builder Volume 1, page 98. Quote: "This church, so far from exhibiting the adoption of true Catholic principles, which we have had so much pleasure in describing at Masbro’, is certainly the most original combination of modern deformity that has been erected for some time past for the sacred purpose of a Catholic church," and, "And now, we tell our readers that this new church of Islington, which Mr. Scoles has built, and which Mr. Pugin insists he ought not to have built, and which he has done no little damage to by his strictures, depriving it of the contribution of many whose purses yield more to dictation in such matters than to reason or to judgment; this church of Mr. Scoles is withal a fine and noble church."
- Denis Evinson, Catholic Churches of London, Sheffield: Sheffield Academic Press, 1998, page 140. Quote: "Scoles's neo-Norman design was severely castigated by Pugin in The Dublin review, in which he called for a rebuilding of Islington's mediaeval Gothic church. Joseph Hansom, however, powerfully defended Scoles's church in the pages of The Builder, of which he was then editor, pointing out that Catholicism had other 'beautiful forms, styles and adaptations in store for us."
Cardofk (talk) 21:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Cardofk, nice work on this article. Review follows: article created 3 November and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources (though I usually avoid British Listed Buildings as it is a mirror of the Historic England listing; I didn't pick up on any paraphrasing issues; hook fact is interesting enough for me, mentioned in the article and checks out to sources cited; image is freely licensed; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks good to go - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- One minor thing I had a quick look at the Archdiocese directory page cited and found ti listed the Sunday masses as "Sunday (Sat 6pm), 9.30am, 11am (Sung)" and not the four times you have? One other thing you might consider is adding some background to the "foundation" section on why Catholicism was practised in secret and the timing of the Catholic relief acts, the unknowing reader might otherwise be a little confused how we went from arresting priests to constructing a church - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, very good point, thanks for spotting it, I really should have linked to the Reformation at the beginning. Will do. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- One minor thing I had a quick look at the Archdiocese directory page cited and found ti listed the Sunday masses as "Sunday (Sat 6pm), 9.30am, 11am (Sung)" and not the four times you have? One other thing you might consider is adding some background to the "foundation" section on why Catholicism was practised in secret and the timing of the Catholic relief acts, the unknowing reader might otherwise be a little confused how we went from arresting priests to constructing a church - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Mary Robertson
- ... that Mary Robertson was the first woman to receive a Doctor of Science in Medicine from the University of Cape Town? Source: [1]
- Reviewed:
Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 20:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- article is new enough, long enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is not required. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Robertson entertains her doctors". UCT News. 4 May 2010. Retrieved 3 November 2024.
Abu Sulayman Da'ud
- ... that Arab physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud was recruited by the Latin king of Jerusalem to treat a disabled boy prince, while Abu Sulayman's son taught the prince to ride a horse using only his knees?
- Source: "Abu Sulayman worked for the king for a while, even treating his son Baldwin's leprosy..." Zimo p. 158 "He also engaged Abul’Khair, Abu Sulayman’s brother, to teach the boy to ride ... with his knees alone." Hamilton p. 28
- ALT1: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud served both Latin Christian and Arab Muslim rulers? Source: "This Eastern Christian family thus knit together different political and religious groups of the region by bringing their medical expertise to serve both the Franks and the Ayyubids. Zimo p. 159
- ALT2: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud treated the Christian prince Baldwin of Jerusalem, but as an astrologer sent a message to Baldwin's enemy Saladin prophesizing Saladin's victory? Source: "... he also took a message from his father, a noted astrologer, to Saladin, assuring him that he would conquer Jerusalem." Hamilton p. 186
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Czarodziejski okręt
- Comment: Hamilton describes Abu Khayr in his 2000 book as Abu Sulayman's brother. Other cited sources, as well as Hamilton in his 1980 book, describes Abu Khayr as Abu Sulayman's son.
Surtsicna (talk) 18:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: New article with 2380 characters, well-sourced with inline citations. I reviewed all cited sources for verification; all sources are accessible. No issues with copyvio or tone. All hooks are interesting, well-researched, and properly cited. Thank you for writing about Abu Sulayman, an exceptional figure whose life bridged cultural and religious divides. As an Arab Christian, I appreciate how this article highlights the contributions of Eastern Christians, and Arabs in general in medicine and science. el.ziade (talkallam) 10:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Kang Ju-hyeok
- ... that footballer Kang Ju-hyeok (pictured) became the youngest player to debut in FC Seoul history at 17 years, 9 months, and 6 days old?
- ALT1: ... that footballer Kang Ju-hyeok (pictured) became the third youngest player to debut in K League history at 17 years, 9 months, and 6 days old? Source: https://www.fourfourtwo.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=55320
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Glomp
✗plicit 13:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article looks good and hook is interesting. Approving with good faith because I cannot speak Korean, although Google Translate verifies the hook. ―Panamitsu (talk) 06:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Carlyle Hotel
- ... that the Carlyle Hotel had to be sold just two years after its completion? Source: Gray, Christopher (October 28, 2001). "Streetscapes/The Carlyle Hotel, 76th Street and Madison Avenue; Art Deco Tower Where President Kennedy Stayed". The New York Times.
- ALT1: ... that the Carlyle Hotel, which had to be sold just two years after its completion, later became the "White House of Manhattan"? Source: Gray, Christopher (October 28, 2001). "Streetscapes/The Carlyle Hotel, 76th Street and Madison Avenue; Art Deco Tower Where President Kennedy Stayed". The New York Times; Talese, Gay (February 7, 1964). "Madison Avenue: A Street of Presidents and Poise". The New York Times
- ALT2: ... that a Carlyle Hotel staffer once lent his own bow tie to Laurence Olivier for a dinner? Source: Agovino, Theresa (November 21, 1988). "Secrets of Carlyle's Success". Crain's New York Business. Vol. 4, no. 47. p. 3.
- ALT3: ... that during the construction of the Carlyle Hotel, the pipes in its bathrooms were changed after its developer's son visited two nearby construction sites? Source: Brenner, Marie (December 19, 1983). "The Inside Story of the Carlyle". New York Magazine. New York Media, LLC. p. 31.
- ALT4: ... that the Carlyle Hotel, once known as the "White House of Manhattan", has also hosted royalty? Source: Talese, Gay (February 7, 1964). "Madison Avenue: A Street of Presidents and Poise". The New York Times; Birmingham, Stephen (March 1, 1992). "New York is Full of Luxury Hotels, but There's Nothing Else Quite Like the Fabled Carlyle-remarkably Comfortable, Distinctively Stylish and Very Discreet". Los Angeles Times. p. 26
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wuhan trolleybus route 1
- Comment: I will probably come up with more hooks later.
Epicgenius (talk) 01:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Certainly updated recently, with a 114k-character expansion, so new enough, and long enough. It is well-sourced and not too closely paraphrased. The hooks are short and interesting. I would go for ALT1, for me it's the most interesting/surprising, but I'm happy with all of them (and who's knows what other hooks are in store). And QPQ has been done. If there is a problem, I cannot find it. Thank you. Cardofk (talk) 21:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Michael O'Kane
- ... that Michael O'Kane never received approval to begin constructing a building for the College of the Holy Cross?
- Source: Kuzniewski, Anthony J. (1999). Thy Honored Name: A History of the College of the Holy Cross, 1843–1994. Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press. pp. 148–149. ISBN 978-0-81320-911-1. Archived from the original on March 25, 2020. Retrieved August 26, 2023 – via Google Books.
Ergo Sum 03:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review - but the current version of ALT0 doesn't seem very clear: is the word 'before' needed? @Ergo Sum: Chaiten1 (talk) 11:38, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Chaiten1: That was a typo. I've fixed it. Ergo Sum 16:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is a newly created article, which is well written, well sourced and has no copyvio issues. The hook is interesting, a good length, and checks out with the source (verified in google books); the hook is appropriately referenced in the article. QPQ has been done. Nice work! Chaiten1 (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 4
[edit]Anthony F. Ciampi
- ... that Anthony F. Ciampi (pictured) rebuilt the College of the Holy Cross after it was destroyed by fire in 1852?
- Source: Kuzniewski, Anthony J. (1999). Thy Honored Name: A History of the College of the Holy Cross, 1843-1994. Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press. pp. 77, 103. ISBN 9780813209111. Archived from the original on December 15, 2018. Retrieved December 15, 2018 – via Google Books.
- ALT1: ... that Anthony F. Ciampi (pictured) fought his superiors to rebuild the College of the Holy Cross after it was destroyed by fire in 1852? Source: Kuzniewski, Anthony J. (1999). Thy Honored Name: A History of the College of the Holy Cross, 1843-1994. Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press. pp. 81–82. ISBN 9780813209111. Archived from the original on December 15, 2018. Retrieved December 15, 2018 – via Google Books.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nocturna (band)
Ergo Sum 17:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. Either hook works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Standard-winged nightjar
- ... that during breeding season, the male standard-winged nightjar (pictured) grows a wing ornament over twice the length of its body?
- Source: Cleere, N.; Kirwan, G. M. (2020). del Hoyo, J.; Elliott, A.; Sargatal, J.; Christie, D. A.; de Juana, E. (eds.). "Standard-winged Nightjar (Caprimulgus longipennis), version 1.0". Birds of the World Online. Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, NY. doi:10.2173/bow.stwnig1.01.
21–22 cm (excluding male's "standards", which reach 45–53·5 cm in length)
Reconrabbit 22:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- The article is fine in every respect (long enough, well-written and recently enough promoted to GA), and the hook is good, but it is not backed up by the wording in the article. In the article it simply says that the standards are "much longer" than the body, now "twice the length". There should also be an inline citation supporting the claim directly after the sentence in which it is made. It's a small fix, after which the article should be ready for DYK. Yakikaki (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe that the length given of
a broad secondary flight feather[4] on each wing elongated to up to 53.5 centimetres
makes sense to describe as "twice the length of its body" since earlier the bird's length is given asthis medium-sized (20–23 centimetres (7.9–9.1 in) long) nightjar
and 53.5÷2=26.75 > 23 cm. Though since it's "up to" I could see justifying adding "that can be" after "wing ornament" in the hook. Additionally the quote in the source describes the bird's body as "21-22 cm" and immediately after gives a minimum length of 45 cm with the standards. I could change it to say directly in the article "over twice the length" instead of just "much longer" though. Reconrabbit 00:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe that the length given of
- Sure, I wasn't arguing that the facts were not in the article or not supported by the inline citations. DYK used to have a rule, though, which stated "The facts of the hook need to appear in the article with a citation no later than at the end of the sentences in which they appear." However I see now that the rules have changed and become more flexible, and I can therefore happily drop this minor objection and give the green light to the article. Nice work! Yakikaki (talk) 15:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Yoon Do-young
- ... that Yoon Do-young (pictured) scored his debut goal for Daejeon Hana Citizen 50 seconds into its match against Gwangju FC?
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Overall: Looks good to. Both articles new enough, long enough. Hook fact is cited in the flag article. AGF on Korean sources. FaysaLBinDaruL (talk) 16:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Hikari Kodama
- ... that because she went to a high school with strict rules, Hikari Kodama would wear wigs while making public performances? Source: [18] ("はい。中学3年生の冬に初めてオーディションを受けて、そこから3年ほど事務所に所属しました。でも、校則が厳しい高校に通っていたので、表立った芸能活動ができなかったんですよ。なので、その頃はカツラを被ったりしながらライブをしてました(笑)。先生たちに気付かれないように。")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Santos Passos Church
- Comment: Feel free to suggest alternate wordings or hooks.
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Overall: Great work! -Bogger (talk) 14:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Susan Finnegan
- ... that Susan Finnegan was the first female head of the arachnids section at the Natural History Museum, London, but had to resign her job in order to marry?
- Source: ref 1 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/40233839) - 'Dr. Finnegan also holds the distinction of being the first woman appointed to a post at the Natural History Museum in London. She succeeded Arthur Stanley Hirst .. in 1927' ref 2 (https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/40acbb6f-6b5f-42b4-b75d-4cf24e370a79) - 'the Arachnida Section was ... set up in 1913 .. Hirst .. was succeeded by Susan Finnegan (b. 1903), who continued Hurst's work on Acari until she resigned in 1936 to marry Walter Campbell Smith'
- ALT1: ... that arachnologist Susan Finnegan was the first woman to describe a new group of scorpions? Source: ref 1 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/40233839) - 'Dr. Susan Finnegan who .. is the only female arachnologist to have described a new genus of scorpion'
- ALT2: ... that zoologist Susan Finnegan was the first woman appointed to a post at the Natural History Museum in London? Source: ref 1 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/40233839) - 'Dr. Finnegan also holds the distinction of being the first woman appointed to a post at the Natural History Museum in London. She succeeded Arthur Stanley Hirst .. in 1927'
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Michael O'Kane
Chaiten1 (talk) 10:17, 6 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 22:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! I have updated as you suggest and also found another reference, by Wyse Jackson & Spencer Jones 'Finnegan was appointed in 1927 and .. left in 1936. This was precipitated by her marriage to W. Campbell Smith, of the Department of Mineralogy in the Museum. He remained in post.' @Mary Mark Ockerbloom: Chaiten1 (talk) 23:34, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nice work! Thanks for adding the sources that confirm it was policy. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 23:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Paora
- ... that following public backlash over Paora the kiwi (pictured) being mistreated, Zoo Miami stated, "We have offended the nation of New Zealand"?
―Panamitsu (talk) 07:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hook interesting, article new and long enough with adequate referencing. Hook fact cited inline and verified in the relevant source. QPQ is done. Earwig gives a fairly high number but that is due to attributed quotes which are relevant to the article. Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Panamitsu, have you thought of asking Zoo Miami whether they'd like to donate a free photo to Wikipedia? Maybe as part of their ongoing redemption? I do remember that their publicity officer was rather onto it. And on a different front, I encouraged User:Paora to review this article as that seemed rather appropriate. But obviously, he's missed the boat. Schwede66 07:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: Haha yes it certainly would've been funny if Paora reviewed this nomination. As for the image, I haven't thought of that, although it sounds like a good idea. I prefer not to ask organisations for images so I won't be doing it myself. You are welcome to do it if you wish, although I do realise that you will be more focussed on other projects that are more meaningful to you. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, no problems. I've managed to track down an email address for the zoo's communications director, Ron Magill. I've flicked him an email. Let's see what comes back. Can I suggest that prep promoters sit tight for a few days to see whether the zoo would like to make a photo available? Panamitsu, maybe you'd enjoy giving Magill's bio a bit of a tidy up – it could certainly do with one. Schwede66 08:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Image added, thanks. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:09, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- With regards to image licensing, I need to sort this out with VRT. It’ll take a few days. Schwede66 04:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- VRT has confirmed the license and the image can now be used. Schwede66 13:43, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Juxlos, could you kindly have another look and sign off on the image's license? Schwede66 21:14, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. Juxlos (talk) 01:50, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
The Catholic Spirit
- ... that The Catholic Bulletin scooped the election of Pope Benedict XV?
- Source: "Catholic Bulletin Is 50 Years Old". The Minneapolis Star. 7 January 1961. Retrieved 5 November 2024.
- ALT1: ... that a priest canceled 1,600 subscriptions to The Catholic Bulletin over a front-page photo of nuns dancing? Source: Cohen, Ben (20 September 2008). "Bernard Casserly kept Catholics in the know". Star Tribune. Retrieved 5 November 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95
~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 20:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ is done. Page is long enough and was expanded recently enough. Hooks check out. Personally I prefer ALT1, it's much funnier IMO. Di (they-them) (talk) 21:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's probably best as some things aren't adding up as I dive deeper into the first hook. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 21:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 6
[edit]Eurovision Song Contest 1975
- ... that the Eurovision Song Contest's "12 points" voting system was first used in the 1975 edition and is still in place today?
- Source: Stockholm 1975
- ALT1: ... that intelligence reports listed the Eurovision Song Contest 1975 in Stockholm as a potential target for the Red Army Faction, one month before the group occupied the city's West German embassy? Source: West, Chris: Eurovision! A History of Modern Europe Through the World's Greatest Song Contest. "Far-left politics of a more violent nature raised its head too, with yet another terrorist threat to Eurovision, this time from Germany's Red Army Faction (RAF). It did not materialize, but a month after the Stockholm contest, members of the faction seized the West German embassy in the city and murdered the military and economic attachés."
- ALT2: ... that the Swedish broadcaster organising the Eurovision Song Contest 1975 refused to allow the contest to be shown in Chile in protest of the country's military dictatorship in place at the time? Source: Zweedse tv: geen beelden van songfestival naar Chili (in Dutch)
- ALT3: ... that Swedish left-wing activists organised a counter-event during the Eurovision Song Contest 1975 in Stockholm to protest the commercialisation of music within Sweden? Source: Swedish protests against hosting Eurovision Song Contest; All eyes on Stockholm
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Oscar Goodman (basketball)
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Overall: 4 interesting hooks. (AGF for ALT1) -Bogger (talk) 17:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Agreement between Armenia and Azerbaijan respecting the District of Zanghezour
- ... that after signing a peace agreement in 1919, Azerbaijan attempted to invade southern Armenia again in 1920, but the attack was foiled by an Armenian rebellion in Nagorno-Karabakh, which led to the destruction of Shusha's Armenian quarter?
- Source: Saparov, Arsène (2014). From conflict to autonomy in the Caucasus: the Soviet Union and the making of Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Nagorno Karabakh. Routledge.
- Reviewed:
Olympian loquere 00:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not required. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 18:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Thriley and Olympian: This is a really interesting subject. I have several concerns for WP:DYKCOMPLETE and WP:NPOV before promotion:
- Until World War I, the Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire controlled the Caucasus, and both collapsed during the war. At least some mention of this would help readers unfamiliar with the region understand the situation better. Right now, I only see this hinted at with "attaining independence from Russia".
- Regarding "In 1920, the region [Zangezur] was invaded by units of the Red Army" why is this in the background, when it discusses events events after the agreement is signed?
- Regarding "In March 1920, the local Armenians revolted with the support of Armenia" the same as above, why include this in the background section?
- Saparov (2014) mentions militias in Nagorno-Karabakh throughout this conflict, I don't see these mentioned in the Wikipedia article. So when it says "the local Armenians", is this referring a widespread uprising or an ongoing military conflict with those militia groups?
- The article quotes a historian saying the agreement was "basically a declaration of intent". Can this article expand on that? What is a declaration of intent? Do historians find evidence that either side intended to build any kind of long-term diplomatic relationship from this? The "Aftermath" section seems to imply the opposite.
- Does the Red Army invasion of Azerbaijan render this agreement moot? It occurs just weeks after the final line of the "Aftermath" section.
- Rjjiii (talk) 01:31, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Rjjiii, I implemented your feedback/exceptions. With regard to the Saparov source, I'm not sure of your concern as he describes the local Armenians who were involved in the rebellion as "rebels" from pages 94–95. The [Armenian] militias, by my understanding, largely operated in Zangezur (a neighbouring, albeit isolated, Armenian-controlled province) which was more-less a part of Armenia at the time. – Olympian loquere 11:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- That resolved all of my concerns. Thanks! Rjjiii (ii) (talk) 14:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Rjjiii, I implemented your feedback/exceptions. With regard to the Saparov source, I'm not sure of your concern as he describes the local Armenians who were involved in the rebellion as "rebels" from pages 94–95. The [Armenian] militias, by my understanding, largely operated in Zangezur (a neighbouring, albeit isolated, Armenian-controlled province) which was more-less a part of Armenia at the time. – Olympian loquere 11:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Thriley and Olympian: This is a really interesting subject. I have several concerns for WP:DYKCOMPLETE and WP:NPOV before promotion:
Articles created/expanded on November 7
[edit]Pablo Busch
- ... that German-born physician Pablo Busch (pictured) was labelled a "witch or curandero" by indigenous tribes in Bolivia?
- Source: Hollweg 1995, p. 330.
- ALT1: ... that after surviving an attack by Cayubaba warriors, Pablo Busch (pictured) spent a month with an arrowhead lodged in his vertebra? Source: Hollweg 1995, p. 331; Brockmann 2017, pp. 28–29.
- ALT2: ... that a bandit spared the life of physician Pablo Busch (pictured) because "he treated the poor for free"? Source: Hollweg 1995, p. 333, "Hurtado le tenía respeto y admiración, porque 'curaba gratis a los pobres'"; Brockmann 2017, p. 31.
- ALT3: ... that the father of the president of Bolivia once gifted Adolf Hitler a vicuña wool quilt? Source: Brockmann 2017, pp. 284–285.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cycling in China
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Overall: AGF for ALT1, and ALT3. ALT0, ALT2 citations verified. Four interesting hooks. I think ALT0, and ALT3 convey his notability, while the others his peculiarity. -Bogger (talk) 09:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Kingdom of Characters
- ... that while conducting research for Kingdom of Characters, author Jing Tsu visited archives across multiple countries and continents?
- Source: [19]
Kimikel (talk) 05:53, 8 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Kimikel, this is an overall decent article. It was nominated on the day it was created, and the summary is concise while the other sections are well-sourced. Regarding the hook, tbh I do not find it particularly unique or interesting, but I attempted to come up with an alternative hook based on the other content of the article and was unable to do so. So, I suppose the current hook is our only option, and I am willing to approve it. Earwig shows no copyvio. QPQ done. Good to go! —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 19:42, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Ritsuko Taho
- ... that Ritsuko Taho was the dream collector of Cambridge, Massachusetts? Source: All cities have tax collectors. Cambridge also has a dream collector. For the last five months, artist Ritsuko Taho has been asking city residents to write their dreams on slips of paper so she can engrave them onto three "Dream Towers" she plans to build in Central Square this fall as the run-down shopping district undergoes a $3.6 million renovation.
- ALT1: ... that The Boston Globe called Ritsuko Taho the dream collector of Cambridge, Massachusetts? Source: ALT0
- ALT2: ... that artist Ritsuko Taho once invited others to collect dead leaves to fill a large structure of chain-link fence and scaffolding? Source: Ritsuko Taho's "Forbidden Building" is a poetic reordering of some of the most ordinary things in the city a chain fence and dead leaves. It is approximately a large cube, twenty-three feet high, made of scaffolding covered with chain link fence. Each of its four sides is a double wall separated by a two-foot wide space. This space is filled with dead leaves that Ritsuko collects and calls upon neighbors to collect from yards, parks, and city streets.
- ALT3: ... that 40,000 inflated gloves Ritsuko Taho attached to the Margaret Mitchell House and Museum in Atlanta were destroyed by an arson attack on the building? Source: At around 4 a.m. on September 17, 1994, an arsonist poured a trail of kerosene from ground floor to third floor. By the time it was alight, a thunderstorm had broken out, but the combination of kerosene and flaming 40,000 vinyl gloves succeeded in nearly destroying the building in a Wagnerian apocalypse of fire and storm.
- ALT4: ... that when an artwork with 40,000 dreams was destroyed by an arson attack, its creator Ritsuko Taho said that it was "almost like a god tried to take [them]"? Source: ALT3
- ALT5: ... that Ritsuko Taho once had her students at Harvard University slaughter a chicken and turn its bones into a sculpture? Source: "[Ritsuko Taho] assigned her students to adopt a live chicken for a day, then take it to a slaughter house, watch it be processed, and cook and eat it before making a sculpture from the bones."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kylian Portal (Alex Portal)
- Comment: Open to other hooks if possible.
ミラP@Miraclepine 22:25, 12 November 2024 (UTC).
- This is currently only a partial review as I'm having issues with Earwig at the moment so I am unable to check for close paraphrasing. The article is new enough and long enough. It is adequately sourced. A full QPQ was performed. Among the hooks, ALT5 is definitely the most intriguing and thus the best option. The Newspaper.com link is paywalled for me so I will assume good faith regarding the quote. I do suspect that there could be opposition to it on WP:DYKGRAT grounds, but that's counting the chickens before they hatch, so let's cross the bridge if/when we get there. If for whatever reason ALT5 cannot be used or is rejected, ALT4 is the best backup option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:27, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Earwig still works; it just doesn't read newspaper.com content (you'll need to request an account through the WP:LIBRARY to access it directly). ミラP@Miraclepine 15:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I mean I wasn't able to run Earwig at all, as in it wouldn't open for me. But I can assume good faith you want. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: That's fine. I meant that I could still run it even if you couldn't. ミラP@Miraclepine 01:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I guess that works. Approving ALT5; ALT4 to be used only if objections are raised to ALT5 over at WT:DYK or WP:ERRORS. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: That's fine. I meant that I could still run it even if you couldn't. ミラP@Miraclepine 01:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I mean I wasn't able to run Earwig at all, as in it wouldn't open for me. But I can assume good faith you want. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Favre's Dad Game
- ... that less than 24 hours after his dad died of a heart attack, Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre played in "one of the greatest games of his fabulous career"?
- Reviewed: Mary Robertson
« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:11, 7 November 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article looks good. The only issue is that I don't see the quote from the hook "greatest games of his fabulous career" in the article? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- BeanieFan11, it is the second sentence of the article. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:27, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not referring to the source, but in the article Favre's Dad Game I'm not seeing where the quote "one of the greatest games of his fabulous career" is mentioned. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oops! Added BeanieFan11. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not referring to the source, but in the article Favre's Dad Game I'm not seeing where the quote "one of the greatest games of his fabulous career" is mentioned. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Nikolaus Mollyn
- ... that Nikolaus Mollyn was the first book printer in Riga, the capital of Latvia, and the first to print a book in Latvian within the present-day territory of Latvia? Source: Both Sander and Berthold for the first claim (their articles literally have "first printer of Riga" in their titles); Sander p. 796 for the second claim.
Yakikaki (talk) 16:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: While there's no hard rule or guideline discouraging it, best practice is to try and avoid superlatives if possible because as it turns out, the claim that x is first with y tends to be disputed, controversial, or a matter of opinion in many cases. I'm not sure how to best word it, so perhaps User:RoySmith would care to correct me. Viriditas (talk) 23:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- The way I generally approach these is to consider how reliable the record keeping is and especially if it's possible to enumerate all the possible other examples and show that this one must be first. So, it's a safe statement to say that Neil Armstrong was the first person on the moon because I have exceptional confidence that somebody didn't get there before him and somehow the record of that just got lost. Not so with this example. I'd recommend this be qualified with something like "is believed to be", "the first recorded", or something like that. I've been slowly working on an essay on this topic. It's not complete, but User:RoySmith/essays/First is worst may provide some value. RoySmith (talk) 00:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Yakikaki: I planned to review this and request new hooks per the above, but it failed the very first spot check. I made the change in the article.[20] Please take a moment to review the article and make sure the text to source integrity holds up. Viriditas (talk) 08:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:, @RoySmith: Thanks both for engaging in this review and trying to improve it and the article. First of all, regarding the minor change to the article concerning Mollyn's father and his printing activities in Antwerp: fair enough, the revised wording is closer to the source. I do in general try to avoid phrasing which is too close to the source, as this can be a copyvio issue. In this case I think I also got a bit confused because Mollyn junior was in the same situation later, which is described in detail in the next page of the same article, and since he doubtlessly DID print religious material critical to the Catholic church I made a minor mix-up. So thanks for spotting that. Now to the question of the claim in the hook. Well, I can live with "the first recorded" by all means. I would however like to underline that the claim that he was the first printer in Riga has been put forward at least since 1795 (but of course, since I try to be a serious Wikipedia editor, I would not dream of using a source from 1795 in the actual article) and has not been contested. In fact, all sources – reasonable, academic sources – I've been able to find on the subject confirm the claim. It is not an outlandish or grotesque claim. In fact, it used to be precisely the kind of things one was encouraged to put in DYKs (provided, of course it was properly supported). I understand that in some other cases there may have slipped through one or two claims in DYK which were on closer inspection quite fanciful (and, perhaps, politically motivated or in general sensationalist). I would argue that this is not the case here, and that we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath-water. Yakikaki (talk) 14:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:, @RoySmith: A small addendum: comparing the claim in the hook here with the examples given in Roy's draft essay, I would say this one is comparable, at worst, to the Roger Bannister example. The history of early printing is a thoroughly researched area. We have a good idea at the pace in which printing spread through Europe and 1588 seems in no way unreasonable for the first printing press to have been set up in Riga. Furthermore, it was an undertaking which required financial muscles and was something of a major event in the history of a city, so it usually left a mark in archives etc. So all in all, again, the claim is not extravagant or strange. It is certainly very far from the example of the pub with the traffic lights (a peculiar claim to fame indeed!). Sorry for my wordy replies here but I thought it best to put forward my thoughts and reasoning, to let you know that it wasn't a proposal I hatched on a whim. Yakikaki (talk) 14:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:, @RoySmith: Thanks both for engaging in this review and trying to improve it and the article. First of all, regarding the minor change to the article concerning Mollyn's father and his printing activities in Antwerp: fair enough, the revised wording is closer to the source. I do in general try to avoid phrasing which is too close to the source, as this can be a copyvio issue. In this case I think I also got a bit confused because Mollyn junior was in the same situation later, which is described in detail in the next page of the same article, and since he doubtlessly DID print religious material critical to the Catholic church I made a minor mix-up. So thanks for spotting that. Now to the question of the claim in the hook. Well, I can live with "the first recorded" by all means. I would however like to underline that the claim that he was the first printer in Riga has been put forward at least since 1795 (but of course, since I try to be a serious Wikipedia editor, I would not dream of using a source from 1795 in the actual article) and has not been contested. In fact, all sources – reasonable, academic sources – I've been able to find on the subject confirm the claim. It is not an outlandish or grotesque claim. In fact, it used to be precisely the kind of things one was encouraged to put in DYKs (provided, of course it was properly supported). I understand that in some other cases there may have slipped through one or two claims in DYK which were on closer inspection quite fanciful (and, perhaps, politically motivated or in general sensationalist). I would argue that this is not the case here, and that we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath-water. Yakikaki (talk) 14:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article is new enough and long enough. Earwig shows no problems. First part of the hook verified, second part sourced to Sander (1998) taken on good faith as I don't have access to it. The English is well written and engaging. I recommend altering the hook per RoySmith's suggestion, although I'm not going to hold up this nomination, but others might. I made a small number of minor copyedits.[21] Please review. Viriditas (talk) 02:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 8
[edit]Snooze (song)
- Source: Billboard's Heran Mamo: "at that point, nobody can sleep on that song anymore."
- ALT1: ... that no one slept on SZA's 2023 sleeper hit? Source: ditto + Billboard's Andrew Unterberger: "It was almost too on-the-nose that SZA's 'Snooze' would become one of the year's preeminent sleeper hits.
- ALT2: ... that SZA's "Snooze" happens to be a sleeper hit? Source: ditto
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites (song)
- Comment: So much material and play on words to work with (sleeper hit, "sleep on" the song, "hit snooze on" the song); additional hooks are therefore welcome!
Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 10:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. Thriley (talk) 07:05, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hooks are interesting and sourced. I think ALT1 is best. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 18:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Fen Juhua
- ... that Fen Juhua, the "first of the lady knights in the Chinese cinema", fought for love?
- ALT1 (in case the phrasing is a bit icky) ... that Fen Juhua, the first female martial artist in Chinese cinema, fought for love?
- Source: Teo, Stephen (2015). Chinese Martial Arts Cinema. Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press. doi:10.1515/9781474403887-005. ISBN 978-1-4744-0388-7. "Tianyi produced the first wuxia picture so acknowledged by film historians, Nüxia Li Feifei (Lady Knight Li Feifei), released in 1925. Beijing Opera diva Fen Juhua played the eponymous lady knight and became the first of the lady knights in the Chinese cinema. As with much of the output in the genre, the film is now lost. Zheng Junli called it a love story that was a ‘straightforward imitation of the ancients’. A young couple in love are torn apart by a marriage broker and the machinations of parents, but they finally tie the knot with the intervention of the lady knight Li Feifei."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Korzeniacy, czyli Jesień wsamrazków, Template:Did you know nominations/Phoebe Plummer (2 of 4)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:48, 8 November 2024 (UTC).
- Comment - I'm adding Heroine Li Feifei to this nomination, which I wrote on 13 November 2024. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Hey Chris, I am glad to review another Hong Kong cinema nomination! First of all, thanks for writing up Fen Juhua, a red link I came across while working on Stephen Tung and wanted to remove for some time. Both articles are well-written and well-sourced, and Earwig shows no copyvio. I would accept ALT0 since it is supported by the source, and the literal translation of "女俠" is indeed somewhat akin to "lady knight". In fact, "lady knight" is certainly more eye-catching than simply "martial artist". So I am satisfied with ALT0. Both articles were nominated on time. Two QPQs done. Good to go! —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 18:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 9
[edit]Kammerkonzert (Hartmann)
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that, inspired by Kodály, Karl Amadeus Hartmann began to compose Kammerkonzert for clarinet, string quartet and string orchestra in 1930, but began inner emigration in 1933 and completed it in 1935?Source: several- Reviewed: to come
Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 12 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is quite fine; it is long enough and new enough. No copyright violations detected. There is half a good hook in the proposed ALT0. The reference to Kodály should be dropped as it won't mean anything to the average person reading this hook. The implication of a causal relationship between Hartmann's inner emigration and the eventual date of this work's completion isn't quite confirmed in the article. According to this study by Andrew McCredie, the work's composition dates "suggest a long and possibly traumatic Entstehungsgeschich [creation history]", but that this observation cannot be confirmed because there apparently is no surviving documentation in the composer's papers. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Incomplete nomination, QPQ not provided. Z1720 (talk) 16:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: should probably be pinged for something like this. I can give you 24 hours.--Launchballer 01:37, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I reviewed Kings Theatre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 02:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: should probably be pinged for something like this. I can give you 24 hours.--Launchballer 01:37, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Alt1:... that Karl Amadeus Hartmann finished composing Kammerkonzert in inner emigration, after his music had been banned by the Nazis as degenerate art?Source: [22][23][24] Grimes2 (talk) 14:02, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Let me take a look at this new ALT and the sources. One moment, please...—CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:51, 19 November 2024 (UTC)- @Grimes2: This ALT has new problems, the most important being the statement that Hartmann's music was "banned by the Nazis as degenerate art". According to Michael Hans Kater, this never occurred. In the chapter on Hartmann in Composers of the Nazi Era: Eight Portraits, he states (p. 93): "Nor did the [Reichsmusikkammer] or any other Nazi authorities henceforth brand his music 'atonal' or 'degenerate', as some of Hartmann's interpreters have averred." He further stated that Hartmann was evaluated positively by the RMK as late as July 1941. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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... that Karl Amadeus Hartmann finished composing Kammerkonzert in inner emigration after Hitler's seizure of power?Grimes2 (talk) 20:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC) - Alt2a: ...
that Karl Amadeus Hartmann finished composing Hungarian flavored Kammerkonzert in inner emigration after Hitler's seizure of power?Grimes2 (talk) 20:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Grimes2 and Gerda Arendt: Both of these new ALTs revisit the same problem with ALT0: they inadvertently imply a causal relationship between the various topics they touch upon. Perhaps there was; it is very likely so, but as McCredie admitted in the aforementioned JSTOR article, lack of documentation makes this impossible to confirm. Is there any way of rewording the hook to state that it was composed during this period of inner emigration, which was a response to the rise of Hitler, but without implying that the Kammerkonzert itself was also a response to this? —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- sorry for my absence, - I believe that the original hook simply states what happened in three different years without causal relation. I also believe that the name of Kodaly is the shortest and thus most elegant way to refer to Hungarian inspiration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- The wording of the original hook inadvertently implied a relationship between the source material, inner emigration, and the work's delayed completion. I already explained the problems with ALT0, at any rate. Ideally, the hook should focus on one intriguing aspect of the work, rather than trying to fit in as much as possible. Unfortunately, material that could potentially make for the most appealing hooks appears to not be confirmed by McCredie and Kater. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:06, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- sorry for my absence, - I believe that the original hook simply states what happened in three different years without causal relation. I also believe that the name of Kodaly is the shortest and thus most elegant way to refer to Hungarian inspiration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Grimes2 and Gerda Arendt: Both of these new ALTs revisit the same problem with ALT0: they inadvertently imply a causal relationship between the various topics they touch upon. Perhaps there was; it is very likely so, but as McCredie admitted in the aforementioned JSTOR article, lack of documentation makes this impossible to confirm. Is there any way of rewording the hook to state that it was composed during this period of inner emigration, which was a response to the rise of Hitler, but without implying that the Kammerkonzert itself was also a response to this? —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Alt2b: ... that Karl Amadeus Hartmann finished composing Hungarian flavored Kammerkonzert during his period of inner emigration after Hitler's seizure of power?Grimes2 (talk) 13:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2b is good. The only changes I request is for another adjective instead of "flavored", which is imprecise when referring to music and subjective, and a hyphen to join it with the preceding word. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Alt2c: ... that Karl Amadeus Hartmann finished composing his Hungarian-influenced Kammerkonzert during his period of inner emigration after Hitler's seizure of power? Grimes2 (talk) 19:58, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rock 'n' roll. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
ALT2d: ... that Karl Amadeus Hartmann finished his Kammerkonzert, a concerto for clarinet, string quartet and string orchestra, in 1935 during inner emigration?- Please forgive me: I believe that the composer's highly unusual scoring deserves mentioning in a hook about the piece more than Hitler's seizure - if we don't have room for both. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- No. The instrumentation is the least appealing fact for a hook. Stravinsky, Webern, Varèse, Schoenberg, Revueltas, Popov, Shcherbachov, Hindemith, Janáček, Ives, Chávez, Lambert, Delage, Poot, Roslavets, Roldán, Bridge, and Lourié are just among a few of the composers that had already composed works for seemingly "unusual" groupings of instruments by the time Hartmann completed his Kammerkonzert—and those are just the names that immediately came to my mind. More importantly, a reader in 2024 (or 2025, depending on when this DYK runs) who is unfamiliar with classical music may likely be accustomed to even more unusual instrumental sounds because of pop music and modern sound productions. They may even already be familiar with the ear-tickling weirdness that Juan García Esquivel, Brian Wilson, and Joe Meek cultivated and were known for as far back as seventy years ago. To a reader like that, the combo of clarinet, string quartet, and string orchestra will hardly seem "unusual" and interesting. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 17:39, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for a lesson in music histor. I'm afraid I was not clear. I don't think the description of the scoring should be there because of being unusual but because I don't think that our general audience will know what a Kammerkonzert is. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Please understand that I wasn't trying to lecture you. My point is that the scoring isn't anything unusual in 2024 and wasn't very so even in 1935. You also admit that the instrumentation isn't unusual. And you're right: the average reader doesn't know Hartmann's Kammerkonzert. That's the point of a hook "likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic": to pique their curiosity into clicking on the article and learn more. The historical circumstance of its creation is precisely what would likely be the most immediately intriguing aspect of the work to a general reader unfamiliar with classical music. Because they won't care about the instrumentation of musical arcana if they're not familiar with Hartmann, or the term "chamber concerto", or classical music to begin with. ALT2c is the only one that meets the threshold of WP:DYKINT, which is why it is the only one I approved. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- The scoring is for clarinet, string quartet and string orchestra, quasi a clarinet quintet with string orchestra. That's unusual. But I prefer Alt2c. Grimes2 (talk) 21:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Please understand that I wasn't trying to lecture you. My point is that the scoring isn't anything unusual in 2024 and wasn't very so even in 1935. You also admit that the instrumentation isn't unusual. And you're right: the average reader doesn't know Hartmann's Kammerkonzert. That's the point of a hook "likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic": to pique their curiosity into clicking on the article and learn more. The historical circumstance of its creation is precisely what would likely be the most immediately intriguing aspect of the work to a general reader unfamiliar with classical music. Because they won't care about the instrumentation of musical arcana if they're not familiar with Hartmann, or the term "chamber concerto", or classical music to begin with. ALT2c is the only one that meets the threshold of WP:DYKINT, which is why it is the only one I approved. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rock 'n' roll. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Dickinson pumpkin
- ... that the majority of pumpkin pies (pictured) in the United States are made with the Dickinson pumpkin?
- Source: "Dickinson pumpkins are a variety of pumpkin that is mostly grown for making canned pumpkin to use in pumpkin pie and in other baked goods. They have mildly sweet, orange flesh with a dry, dense texture. Dickinson pumpkins are members of the squash family (Cucurbitaceae), with the botanical name of Cucurbita moschata. They're a subspecies of the same squash species that includes the crookneck, butternut, and calabaza varietals, among others. It was first cultivated in Kentucky in the early 1800s by a farmer named Elijah Dickinson. Dickinson later brought the seeds to central Illinois, where they grew so prolifically that they helped launch a vegetable processing plant that was later acquired by a Chicago-based canned food company called Libby's. Libby's still grows Dickinson pumpkins in central Illinois, although they've tweaked the cultivar a bit over the years to produce a varietal that features extra dense, sweet flesh. Today, Libby's accounts for 85 percent of the canned pumpkin market, and 100 percent of what goes in those cans is their proprietary cultivar of Dickinson pumpkin." The Spruce Eats
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Agreement between Armenia and Azerbaijan respecting the District of Zanghezour
- Comment: For Thanksgiving
Thriley (talk) 21:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Thriley, this is a solid and well-sourced article. It was moved to the mainspace on 9 November, so it falls within the seven-day timeframe. I did notice a minor error: source 4 (the Adweek source) is missing its publisher in the Cite web template. The hook is interesting, and while I have some reservations about the reliability of The Spruce Eats, the editorial guidelines listed on their website satisfied me. Earwig shows no copyvio. QPQ done. Good to go! —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 19:21, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Ethel Preston memorial
- ... that the grave of Ethel Preston (pictured) in Leeds, England, has a lifestyle statue of her stood in front of black marble doors, left ajar?
- Source: "Statue (life-size) standing ... black marble panelled doors .. the doors are slightly open" from: "MEMORIAL AND GRAVE OF ETHEL PRESTON AT NGR 2673 3905 IN LAWNSWOOD CEMETERY, Non Civil Parish - 1375322". Historic England.
Dumelow (talk) 21:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: All looks good! Hook is interesting, as it describes a very unique memorial. Picture is clear at a small size, depicting the description visually. QPQ is done. Photographs are released under an appropriate CC license. No issues anywhere else. Good to go. Grnrchst (talk) 15:49, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Kazansky District, Petrograd
- ... that in the 1917 Russian elections, both Catholic and Orthodox Christian Democrats received a higher share of votes in the Kazansky District (map pictured) than in any other Petrograd district?
- Source: выборы въ Учредительное собраніе, Delo Naroda. November 16, 1917. p. 3
Soman (talk) 22:14, 9 November 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting hook, QPQ done, article looks good, hook matches article. ―Panamitsu (talk) 06:02, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Chen Dingshan
- ... that Chen Dingshan has been called the last heir of the Mandarin Ducks and Butterflies school?
- Source: Nicole Huang (黃心村) (June 2014). 舊聞新語話春申: 陳定山的上海與台北 [Travels of Minor Narratives: Chen Dingshan's Shanghai and Taipei] (PDF). Journal of Taiwanese Literature (in Chinese) (24): 1–30. Archived from the original (PDF) on 14 April 2021. Retrieved 9 November 2024. (有學者將陳定山定格成遺老形象,說他是「鴛鴦蝴蝶派最後的傳承人」,「延 續了民國舊式文人的一線餘脈」。[Some scholars have characterized Chen Dingshan as an old man, saying that he is "the last inheritor of the Mandarin Duck and Butterfly School" and "continues the remnants of the old-style literati of the Republic of China"])
ALT1: ... that the prolific author and artist Chen Dingshan named a hotel after two actresses?Source: Nicole Huang (黃心村) (June 2014). 舊聞新語話春申: 陳定山的上海與台北 [Travels of Minor Narratives: Chen Dingshan's Shanghai and Taipei] (PDF). Journal of Taiwanese Literature (in Chinese) (24): 1–30. Archived from the original (PDF) on 14 April 2021. Retrieved 9 November 2024. (父親 去世後,陳定山回到老家杭州,曾在西泠橋邊的風水寶地上建過一個「蝶來飯 店」,取名於大明星胡蝶和徐來的名字。開業那天,請來胡蝶和徐來參加剪綵, 轟轟烈烈,一時成為佳話,同時也炒熱了飯店的生意。[After his father passed away, Chen Dingshan returned to his hometown of Hangzhou and built the "Die Lai Hotel" on the Feng Shui treasure land next to Xiling Bridge, named after the famous stars Hu Die and Xu Lai. On the opening day, Hu Die and Xu Lai were invited to participate in the ribbon-cutting ceremony, which was a great success and became a favorite story. It also heated up the hotel's business."])- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Phoebe Plummer (1 of 4)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC).
- New enough (created on 9 Nov), long enough, sources are good, very presentable. Hooks are cited and I confirm the content of the hooks. One bit I might need to pick is that Chen named a "restaurant", not a "hotel", after two actresses, as "飯店" usually refers to restauarants while "酒店" means hotels. So it should be
- ALT1a: ... that the prolific author and artist Chen Dingshan named a restaurant after two actresses?
- Other than that, hooks are quite interesting. I would also prefer that you clarify in the original hook that the Mandarin Ducks and Butterflies School is a school of literature, but that's up to personal discretion. QPQ confirmed.
- Finally, I wish to use this space to say a big thank you for writing the "brother article" of Chen Xiaocui! Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 19:17, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the kind words! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 10
[edit]Qizil Tugh
- ... that the newspaper Qizil Tugh ('Red Banner') provided a publishing platform for young Uyghur language poets and writers in the Soviet Union?
- Source: Мунир Ерзин. Становление и развитие уйгурской советской печати. Изд-во "Наука" Казахской ССР, 1988. pp. 119-121
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pizza in Croatia
- Comment: barely above 1,500 bytes, but arguably 1930s Uyghur language journalism is underserved in wiki coverage
Soman (talk) 14:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC).
- Date, size, refs, hook, neutrality, QPQ, all GTG. Note I added a proper lead, to make it over 250 words (my thumb rule of what is a stub and what is too short for a DYK). Now it is at "1797 B (274 words). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Bob Gandey
- ... that Bob Gandey was training performing ponies from the age of nine?
- Source: "he started to train ponies with Lord George Sanger’s Circus aged nine." from: "Gandey's Circus (Established c1918)". University of Sheffield Archives. Retrieved 9 November 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Bob Gandey founded a circus (big top pictured) that continues to be operated by his descendants more than 100 years later? Source: "Gandey's Circus (Established c1918) ... During the First World War the family continued to appear in variety shows around the country and by 1918 they were travelling their owned circus tent. ... Today the circus is run by Philip and Carol Gandey with their daughters Hayley and Mariska involved in various aspects of the business." from: "Gandey's Circus (Established c1918)". University of Sheffield Archives. Retrieved 9 November 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Regulus (painting)
Dumelow (talk) 07:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC).
- I have reviewed this because I am a past performer - street work as a juggler/clown, very small circus (we had to double as animals) for county fairs, etc. David notMD (talk) 15:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: I prefer ALT 1. David notMD (talk) 15:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Sams Creek (New Zealand)
- ... that the area around Sams Creek (pictured) was excluded from Kahurangi National Park when it was formed in 1996 due to gold mining interests?
- ALT1: ... that the area around Sams Creek (pictured) was excluded from Kahurangi National Park when it was formed due to gold mining interests? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Anna Haifisch
- Comment: There's much more that can be said about Sams Creek with regards to the ongoing mining proposals. But the article qualifies as is.
Schwede66 08:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks good to go; prefer ALT1, as the year of creation has some relevance (being so recent) but is not crucial. SounderBruce 03:06, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, SounderBruce, for your review. That's much appreciated. Would this image be better in your view? If so, we can use that in the article and here instead. If not, that's all good. Schwede66 03:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think the uncropped version is better, but I feel there's not a strong case for either to be used as the hook image. SounderBruce 03:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, we’ll leave it the way it is. Schwede66 08:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think the uncropped version is better, but I feel there's not a strong case for either to be used as the hook image. SounderBruce 03:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Berta Persson
- ... that in 1927 Berta Persson became the first woman bus driver in Sweden and was nicknamed "Buss-Berta"?
- Reviewed:
MumphingSquirrel (talk) 19:31, 10 November 2024 (UTC).
- This article is new, long enough and written in a neutral tone. The sources cited look reliable, and all contain information that validates the story of Berta Persson. There are no copyvio issues, and no close paraphrasing. QPQ is not required. The image appears to satisfy DYK requirements (old, and public domain). The hook is clear, to the point and interesting, and verified in the sources cited; it is the most obvious hook for the page. Good to go. Thank you for a fascinating article! Chaiten1 (talk) 21:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Many thanks for your kind words Chaiten1, still learning how to do DYKs, so appreciate the encouragement MumphingSquirrel (talk) 21:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
2019 Timaru hailstorm
- ... that New Zealand's costliest weather event in 15 years lasted for only 10 minutes?
- Source: For 10 minutes and costliest in 21st century: https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/127023904/the-day-it-pummelled-massive-hail-stones-in-timaru
- For it being the costliest weather event in 15 years (since the flooding in 2004): https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/300022912/hailstorm-has-nzs-second-highest-weatherrelated-insurance-bill-this-century?rm=a
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fukushima nuclear accident
- Comment: The hailstorm was the costliest weather event in the 21st century, but has since been overtaken by 2023's Cyclone Gabrielle, so that wording cannot be used.
―Panamitsu (talk) 05:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC).
- Ooh, a weather DYK! I'll take this.
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Overall: Looks good, passed. Although the "storm" section is short, it should be fine. EF5 16:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
@Panamitsu and EF5: Is there any way to phrase this so that it just gives the cost? I ask because I find the phrasing confusing in the original hook since there has been a more damaging storm since this one. Something like:
- ALTX: ... that a 10-minute hailstorm in New Zealand caused about $171 million in damage?
would work with a citation temporarily added to the lead. Feel free to cross this hook out if not interested, Rjjiii (talk) 02:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: Thanks for the suggestion. That could work too. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 11
[edit]Adou Thiero
- ... that college basketball player Adou Thiero plays for the same head coach that his father had played for?
- Source: both have played for John Calipari; Times Online ("Adou’s parents, too, had basketball in their blood ... Almamy Thiero was one of the top power forward prospects in the high school Class of 2002 and played for legendary coach John Calipari at Memphis for four seasons") / ESPN ("Ex-Kentucky star Adou Thiero joining John Calipari at Arkansas")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Emil Bove
- Comment: QPQ to be done within 24 hours. Open to other ways of wording the hook.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
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Stanley Washburn
- ... that Stanley Washburn's 29 November 1941 message warning the US Navy that "the Japanese never do what they're expected to do" failed to reach Admiral Kimmel before the attack on Pearl Harbor?
- Source: "Stanley Washburn of Lakewood, New Jersey, a newspaperman, a soldier, a propagandist, and a former Republican candidate for Congress, had just written to fellow Republican Frank Knox to offer a voice of Far East experience. Apparently during his newspapering days, Washburn had covered the Russo-Japanese War, and he told Knox in a letter on November 29 not to underestimate the Japanese. He had seen them in action, and they were smart, committed, cre- ative, and willing to die. "In my experience, the Japanese never do what they're expected to do," Washburn warned. Knox thought enough of Washburn's wisdom and credentials to pass the letter to Harold Stark. On Tuesday, December 2, Stark put a copy in the mail for Kimmel. By the time it arrived, its prediction was reality." from Twomey, Steve (21 November 2017). Countdown to Pearl Harbor: The Twelve Days to the Attack. Simon and Schuster. p. 190. ISBN 978-1-4767-7648-4. (Note that Knox was the US secretary of the Navy at the time)
- ALT1: ... that Stanley Washburn's 29 November 1941 message warning the US Navy not to underestimate the Japanese failed to reach Admiral Kimmel before the attack on Pearl Harbor? Source: as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Patrick J. Ryan (chaplain)
- Comment: Would be nice to run on 29 November
Dumelow (talk) 19:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks great! ATTN: promoter: see note about scheduling the hook for 29 November. paul2520 💬 16:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and RoySmith: would it be possible to schedule this hook for 29 November?
- Please let me know if there's a different way I should request this! = paul2520 💬 15:26, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer has been more involved in the scheduling stuff than I have, so I'll leave that to him. RoySmith (talk) 15:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow, Paul2520, and RoySmith: This would need an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 16:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Launchballer, I've gone and duplicated all the refs in the relevant paragraph - Dumelow (talk) 17:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's a bit paraphrased a bit too closely. I think it should be reworded.--Launchballer 18:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Launchballer, the last paragraph? There's a comparison of it to the source below. Is it the "not to underestimate" bit? I think that comes under WP:LIMITED, but happy to take alternative suggestions - Dumelow (talk) 07:59, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's a bit paraphrased a bit too closely. I think it should be reworded.--Launchballer 18:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Launchballer, I've gone and duplicated all the refs in the relevant paragraph - Dumelow (talk) 17:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow, Paul2520, and RoySmith: This would need an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 16:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer has been more involved in the scheduling stuff than I have, so I'll leave that to him. RoySmith (talk) 15:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
− | + | Washburn later lived in Lakewood, New Jersey and was a candidate for election to the US Congress for the Republican party. On 29 November 1941 he wrote to Frank Knox, a Republican serving as secretary of the Navy under Democrat president Franklin D. Roosevelt, to warn him not to underestimate the Japanese and advise that they "never do what they're expected to do". Knox passed the message onto the Chief of Naval Operations, Harold Raynsford Stark, who mailed it Admiral Husband E. Kimmel, commander of the Pacific Fleet on 2 December. The message arrived only after the Japanese had launched a surprise attack on Kimmel's fleet base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. |
Louis Abramson
... that Louis Abramson worked on the renovation of a building (pictured) he had designed 57 years earlier?
- Source: "It was also, perhaps, a recognition of Louis Allen Abramson, the architect who designed the main building more than five decades ago and was called back recently to begin work on the new senior‐citizen apartment house that is the first phase of the center's modernization program." https://www.nytimes.com/1973/01/07/archives/home-for-the-aging-reaffirms-its-roots-home-for-the-aging-reaffirms.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/ZIZ
RoySmith (talk) 02:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi RoySmith, review follows: a QPQ has been carried out (in progress); article was moved to mainspace on 12 November and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources except for one paragraph which I have tagged; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources in a spotcheck on some of the online ones; Earwig comes back generally OK, though I wonder if "on 167th Street between Findlay and Teller Avenues in the Bronx" could be rephrased to avoid being identical to the source? hook fact is interesting enough, mentioned in the article and checks out to sources cited; image is OK, could be cropped a little to remove the margin. Do you have confirmation it was published prior to 1929? Noting the statement that the NY public library couldn't determine copyright of the image - Dumelow (talk) 19:21, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Dumelow Thank you for the review. I've supplied the missing citation. As for the paraphrasing, I think WP:LIMITED applies here. I tried a few rewordings, but they're all rather awkward and forced, so I'm inclined to leave it as is. I think cropping the image would be an aesthetic negative.
The more interesting question is the provenance of the image vis-a-vis whether it is PD or not. https://www.vera.org/news/vera-schweitzer-the-vera-institutes-worthy-namesake says the image appeared in a 1931 annual report, so that's at least an upper bound for the date, admittedly 2 years shy of the 1929 magic line in the sand. Wurts Brothers was a well-known photography firm specializing in architectural work. I think it's reasonable to assume they took the photo soon after the building was completed, but I have been unable to find any hard evidence that it predates 1929. RoySmith (talk) 20:16, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Works for me. Not an expert on images so happy to leave decision whether to use up to promoter/posting admin - Dumelow (talk) 20:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm possibly putting my head in the lion's mouth, but Nikkimaria is my usual go-to on image licensing questions. RoySmith (talk) 21:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- The current tagging is likely incorrect (unless there's an earlier publication that hasn't been identified), but I'd suggest checking for copyright renewal on the 1931 report - it likely wouldn't have been renewed which means this is likely out of copyright. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:27, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm possibly putting my head in the lion's mouth, but Nikkimaria is my usual go-to on image licensing questions. RoySmith (talk) 21:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Dumelow OK, let's run this without the image:
- ALT1 ... that Louis Abramson worked on the renovation of a building he had designed 57 years earlier?
which is a bit of a shame, but I'd rather be right than guess. In the meantime, I've located an archive here in NYC that looks like it has all the annual reports from the years in question. I'll get over there at some point and hopefully be able to nail this down. RoySmith (talk) 22:51, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just to confirm ALT1 is approved. An interesting building, surprised it doesn't have its own article yet - Dumelow (talk) 08:35, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- That may yet happen. I had started work on User:RoySmith/drafts/1201 Findlay Ave and while researching the building, learned about Abramson and ended up going down that rathole first. RoySmith (talk) 14:54, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just to confirm ALT1 is approved. An interesting building, surprised it doesn't have its own article yet - Dumelow (talk) 08:35, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Walter G. Benz Jr.
- ... that during the Korean War, the 8th Fighter-Bomber Group, under the command of Walter G. Benz Jr., became the first United States Air Force unit to complete 50,000 combat sorties?
Toadboy123 (talk) 09:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article length and age are fine, no copyvio, source checks out. First time reviewer so would appreciate a second look 03:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
The Manhasset
- ... that the original developer of the Manhasset apartment building had to give up ownership when it was nearly completed? Source: Gray, Christopher (July 21, 1996). "Streetscapes/The Manhasset;New Crown for an Upper Broadway Wedding Cake". The New York Times.
- ALT1: ... that the original developer of the Manhasset apartment building went bankrupt and had to give up ownership before it was completed? Source: Gray, Christopher (July 21, 1996). "Streetscapes/The Manhasset;New Crown for an Upper Broadway Wedding Cake". The New York Times.
- ALT2: ... that an architect inspecting the Manhasset found so many pigeons there, his workers "were carrying fleas back to the office"? Source: Gray, Christopher (July 21, 1996). "Streetscapes/The Manhasset;New Crown for an Upper Broadway Wedding Cake". The New York Times.
- ALT3: ... that in 1999, the Manhasset apartment building caught fire just as its renovation was being completed? Source: Stewart, Barbara (April 7, 1999). "Finding Their Lives in the Ashes; For Many Displaced by Fire, Little Is Left but Problems". The New York Times.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rose O'Neill (Irish noblewoman)
Epicgenius (talk) 18:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC).
- I'll be reviewing this today. :)
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Overall: Preference for ALT3, that one seems more interesting (and unfortunate) than the others. EF5 16:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Good to go, easy pass! :) EF5 16:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 12
[edit]Helen Chaman Lall
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that Helen Chaman Lall (pictured) was the only person painted by Amrita Sher-Gil in Lahore in the 1930s? - Source: [25]
- Reviewed: Annie Huggett
Whispyhistory (talk) 22:01, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
- I shall review this. Storye book (talk) 11:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Nice article, and a great picture which will look good on the main page. Thank you for this.
- I did a very brief copyedit of the article, which does not affect this review. Storye book (talk) 12:03, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
@Storye book:... Thank you for reviewing. I need to recheck the hook fact as the source is not correct and does not correspondance to Sher-Gil's letters. Will ping you once checked. Sorry for this. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Amrita Sher-Gil painted a portrait of Helen Chaman Lall (pictured) without expecting a fee?
- for ALT1, with offline citation taken AGF. Thank you, Whispyhistory. Storye book (talk) 16:17, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Seunghan
- ... that Seunghan (pictured) was forced out of his K-pop band because of a kiss?
- ALT1: ... that Seunghan (pictured) was forced out of his K-pop band because of a cigarette and a kiss?
- ALT2: ... that Seunghan (pictured) was forced out of Riize because of a cigarette and a kiss?
- ALT3: ... that Seunghan (pictured) was forced out of his band because he kissed a woman?
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RachelTensions (talk) 05:24, 12 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Rachel, this is a well-written and well-sourced article. It was nominated on the same day it was moved to the mainspace, so it meets the newness criteria. I prefer ALT1 the most, as both the subject's kissing and smoking contributed to his departure according to the source, and omitting his band name would make it more accessible for readers who are not familiar with Kpop. Earwig shows no copyvio. No QPQ is needed. Good to go! —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 20:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Thomas Curnow
- ... that schoolteacher Thomas Curnow (pictured) used a red scarf to stop a train from derailing?
- Reviewed:
PastelLilac (talk) 04:16, 12 November 2024 (UTC).
Article length and age are fine, no copyright or plagiarism issues seen, but I am concerned about WP:N. The article states "lthough Curnow became a household name in Australia following the Glenrowan siege, today he is a relatively obscure figure in Australian history. In most plays and films about the Kelly gang, Curnow is a minor character..." -- If more information concerning the notoriety of Curnow in his own time in Australian press or society / outside of dramatic representations I think that would assist. -Maximilian775 (talk) 21:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. I'm not sure I understand your request. I think it's clear from the article that Curnow was well known in his day. For example, his retirement 35 years after the Glenrowan siege "received press coverage throughout Australia". He hadn't sunk completely into obscurity, as much as he tried to avoid the limelight. His actions led to the downfall of arguably Australia's most famous historical person. Notability beyond dispute surely. - PastelLilac (talk) 21:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe you can elaborate on the Cornish association source -- I'm not sure how 1 citation shows "coverage throughout Australia", and your statement of him being a household name in Legacy bears no citations at all. I'm certainly open to being convinced of notability, but as the article currently stands in my reading it's not shown thoroughly enough. Maximilian775 (talk) 21:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just jumping in here - per WP:NTEMP, once notability has been established, it does not need to be maintained. If he was a household name in Australia at one point in time, then he's notable enough for Wikipedia now, Maximilian775. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 21:39, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
That's a fair point, and due to my completing my initial read of the article on a smaller screen, I didn't see the portion about the Victoria Humane Society medal and the fact he had to essentially go into witness protection for a time. My apologies, PastelLilac
With that in mind, I think the article overall is fine, but the hook could include a mention of the role he played in Kelly's capture. Maybe
- ALT1: ... that schoolteacher Thomas Curnow (pictured) used a red scarf to stop a train from derailing, leading to the capture of notorious outlaw Ned Kelly?
- That's all good. I'm open to hook suggestions, and yours may get more clicks. Part of me takes pleasure in ignoring Ned Kelly though, considering so much has been written about him already. - PastelLilac (talk) 22:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Maximilian775 (talk) 23:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 13
[edit]1984 Southland floods
- ... that although nobody died in the 1984 Southland floods (pictured), about 12 thousand sheep perished?
―Panamitsu (talk) 06:04, 14 November 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:38, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 14
[edit]Light Vessel 16
- ... that the oldest surviving wooden lightship, dating to 1840, is now an Airbnb?
- Source: "The oldest surviving wooden lightship is about to embark on the next chapter of her colourful life - as an Airbnb. ... she was built in 1840" from: Jordan, Nicola (22 July 2023). "Historic ship and former nightclub now riverside Airbnb". Kent Online. Retrieved 14 November 2024.
Dumelow (talk) 21:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
List of Chivas USA managers
- ... that Chivas USA had eleven different managers over ten seasons?
- Source: "2024 Fact and Record Book". Major League Soccer. February 2024. p. 31. Archived from the original on March 15, 2024. Retrieved March 15, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Chivas USA's first coach lasted only 10 games? Source: Associated Press (30 May 2005). "Chivas USA coach Rongen reassigned as team's sports director". ESPN. Retrieved 21 June 2024.
- Reviewed:
Brindille1 (talk) 05:08, 14 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks good to go; made a few formatting fixes while looking over the list yesterday. ALT0 is the more interesting of the two (but ALT1 is also suitable); it could use a more explicit source than the league's data tables, though. SounderBruce 05:35, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Campo Valdés Roman baths
- ... that the Campo Valdés Roman baths were rediscovered during the construction of a sewer system in 1903?
- ALT1: ... that the Campo Valdés Roman baths were used as a necropolis in the Middle Ages? Source: [28]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Parengyodontium album
Kimikel (talk) 04:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Kimikel, review follows: article created 14 November and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what appear to be reliable sources for the subject matter; sources are all in Spanish so will have to AGF there is no overly close paraphrasing of them, Earwig shows no issues; hook facts are interesting, mentioned in the article and check out to sources cited, at least according to Google Translate. A QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 08:43, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 15
[edit]Retelling
- ... that retelling of classic tales is a common occurrence? Source: https://researchers.mq.edu.au/en/publications/retelling-stories-across-time-and-cultures
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Overall, the article meets all the criteria for warranting a DYK blurb, and QPQ has been satisfied, but I'm concerned that your proposed hook, in my opinion, doesn't seem that interesting or attention-grabbing. Do you think there's something else interesting you could bring up about retelling aside from how common it is? JJonahJackalope (talk) 21:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: Sure. How about: --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- ... that retelling of stories has led to emergence of, among others, feminist retellings focusing on previously marginalized or inexistent female characters?
- Piotrus, that definitely sounds more interesting, though if I could make an edit to the phrasing, maybe something like:
- ... that the feminist retelling of stories can focus on previously nonexistent or marginalized female characters?
- Let me know if this sounds good to you. JJonahJackalope (talk) 13:24, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: Yep, it does :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Great! I have no further concerns and will go ahead and approve that alt. JJonahJackalope (talk) 15:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Thomas Sewell (neo-Nazi)
- ... that Thomas Sewell attempted to recruit Brenton Tarrant, the perpetrator of the 2019 Christchurch mosque shootings, into the Lads Society?
- Reviewed:
TarnishedPathtalk 12:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review. GMH Melbourne (talk) 00:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article is new enough and long enough, well-sourced, neutral, BLP-compliant, copyvio-compliant, and presentable. The hook is cited by a reliable source, <200 characters, and is interesting. QPQ is not required.
- A potential problem with the hook is that it may unduly focus on negative aspects of a living person. I personally think it is fine but I have gotten it wrong in the past so I will request a second opinion from a user better versed in DYK. Note that in this source the subject of the article is personally admitting to what is stated in the hook. GMH Melbourne (talk) 00:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- As the GA reviewer: I would not believe it to unduly focus on the negative aspects of Sewell, given my understanding of the word, given what he does and what he is notable for. It's not like he is a well regarded person who happened to do one bad thing and we're making it the hook. It's not a crime or something that he denied doing, in any case. Just my thoughts. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:14, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed, good justification. I'm happy to tick it off. GMH Melbourne (talk) 01:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- As the GA reviewer: I would not believe it to unduly focus on the negative aspects of Sewell, given my understanding of the word, given what he does and what he is notable for. It's not like he is a well regarded person who happened to do one bad thing and we're making it the hook. It's not a crime or something that he denied doing, in any case. Just my thoughts. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:14, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Emil Bove
- ... that Emil Bove prosecuted Nicolás Maduro and defended Donald Trump?
– Muboshgu (talk) 23:16, 17 November 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:48, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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Kings Theatre (Brooklyn)
- ... that ushers at New York City's Kings Theatre reportedly had to exercise in a basketball court in its basement? Source: Kravis, Hedi (February 12, 1978). "The Best First-Run Movie Houses!". New York Daily News. pp. 426, 427, 439, 442. Specifically page 427.
- ALT1: ... that New York City's Kings Theatre could not be subdivided because one level was too wide and the other was too narrow? Source: Liff, Bob (February 14, 1990). "A Silent Screen on Flatbush Ave. A Once and Future King?". Newsday. pp. 124, 132
- ALT2: ... that before New York City's Kings Theatre was reopened in 2015, there were at least seven unsuccessful attempts to redevelop it? Source: Calhoun, John (2019). "Loew's Kings Theatre: Restoration of a Palace for the Masses". Performing Arts Resources. Vol. 34. pp. 160–176, XIII.
- ALT3: ... that when New York City's Kings Theatre was renovated, workers restored furniture that the theater's former manager had owned for four decades? Source: Dunlap, David W. (April 23, 2015). "Brooklyn Movie Palace Throws Regal Arms Around Restored Lobby Suite". The New York Times.
- ALT4: ... that the opening of New York City's Kings Theatre was postponed three times? Source: "Pictures: Opening of new Loew's Kings". Variety. Vol. 96, no. 7. August 28, 1929. p. 34
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Feelie (Brave New World)
Epicgenius (talk) 03:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting article expansion on fine sources, subscription sources accepted AGF, No copyvio obvious. The image ist licensed and would be a lovely Illustration,going well with ALT2. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 02:15, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
David Headley Green
- ... that David Green published over 200 research papers before his 18th birthday?
- Source: https://academic.oup.com/petrology/article/49/4/587/1470467 'a volume in honour of David Headley Green on the occasion of his 18th birthday, 29 February 2008' .. 'On February 29, 2008, David Green celebrated his 18th birthday in his 72nd year' . His publication list (https://earthsciences.anu.edu.au/files/DavidGreenPublicationList.pdf) lists the 209 papers he published before 2008.
Chaiten1 (talk) 08:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks good to me. Hook is misleading, but in a good way as far as I'm concerned, and technically true at that. Earwig gives a pretty high score but everything it flags are the names of organizations or awards, so no worries there. Nice work, good to go. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 00:49, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 16
[edit]Celeste Caeiro
... that Celeste Caeiro was the woman who handed carnations to the soldiers during the 1974 pacific revolution in Portugal, which soon became known as the Carnation Revolution?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Celeste Caeiro died on 15 November and her gesture of handing carnations to the soldiers during the revolution of 25 April 1974 in Lisbon transformed the coup into a peaceful revolution and was dubbed the "Carnation Revolution’" globally. I have expanded her article quite a bit with reliable sources and consider it to be eligible for posting on DYK.
_-_Alsor (talk) 01:08, 17 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi _-_Alsor, review follows: I had a quick scan through the sources and they look like news organisations, however the citations could be improved so that the name of the publication is included in the citation to make it clear to the reader; I did a spot check on verifying a claim from the source and couldn't see where this TimeOut article supported the statement "In 1974 Caeiro was working in a self-service restaurant in Lisbon called "Sir" located at Franjinhas Building on Rua Braamcamp" though that could be a failure of Google Translate, would you mind having a quick check of this (and any other sections which may not be supported)? Per WP:DYKIMG the image proposed needs to appear in the article, if you want this one it needs to be added; I would also check where you stand on freedom of panorama on 2D images, murals etc. are often still covered by copyright. The main sticking point for me is that I measure the pre-15 November version of the article at 1,222 characters and the current version at 5,656 characters. To meet the criteria of WP:DYK5X the article needs to be expanded by 5x or more, which would require an additional approx 500 characters. Do you think it is feasible to expand further? - Dumelow (talk) 11:56, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: Hi, thanks for doing the review and for your suggestions! I would like to comment to you that:
- About the first one, excuse me, I don't understand what you mean. That the title of the publications must be in English so that it can be understood at first? Or that some citations are simple (mainly the last ones)? I can correct both issues.
- No, there is no mistake in the translation: the restaurant was called SIR. I will add some more references so that it can be better supported (in any case I have tried to use a better translator than Google Translate when I have needed to do so). I will also review the other citations, even though I'm sure that all the content has its respective cited source because I have made sure to do so.
- I'm going to fix what you suggest about the image as well.
- I will also try to expand article's content a little more and reach/exceed the missing 500 characters. Although I suspect that little more can be added...
- Let me spend some time later today and/or tomorrow on the article. In any case I will let you know once I have made the improvements. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: Hi, thanks for doing the review and for your suggestions! I would like to comment to you that:
- Hi _-_Alsor, sorry to clarify in the order of your bullet points:
- The publications are fine in the native language; it was the simple citations that were just a link behind text that should really be expanded eg. with the publication name, author, date etc. where known
- Sorry, it was my mistake, I was looking for the word "Caeiro" in the article not "Celeste Martins". It is there and supports what is said. If you are happy this is the case throughout the article don't worry about checking them. I normally do a spot check of a few sentences just to check they are covered by the source and if anything is awry it is often an indication of wider problems. In this case I was being a bit stupid.
- On the image I know that if it was taken of a flat mural in the UK it would be covered by copyright and therefore not usable in DYK but laws vary around the world (but if it was a 3D sculpture for example it would be fine). I am not sure what applies in Portugal.
- Yes, hopefully there is a little more to add to bring it over the threshold.
- No worries, DYK folks are generally happy to give people about a week to work on their articles after nomination if there are things to resolve. I've watchlisted this page but if I don't respond to compelte the review feel free to message. All the best - Dumelow (talk) 18:22, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi _-_Alsor, sorry to clarify in the order of your bullet points:
- Simple citations are no longer "simple".
- No worries! It's an understandable confusion. I have checked the rest of citations and all is in order.
- The new image I'm proposing looks like it could be used freely and is a Banksy mural, which, to my knowledge, is usually not copyrighted (correct me if I'm wrong). The alternative would be, although I'm not convinced, to use a photograph of a red carnation.
- I have managed to exceed 6000 characters. I'll continue to expand a little more as I've found a source with interesting information.
- @Dumelow: thanks again for your collaboration. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:33, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi _-_Alsor, expansion is now looking good. I will leave judgement on the image up to the promoter and admin when posting as I am not an expert. Citations look good. I had one query arising from one sentence:
- "When Caeiro was 18 months old, she was admitted to the Alto do Pina Day Centre and was regularly visited by her mother. At the age of 14 she was transferred to the Asilo 28 de Maio." what are these? Schools, hospitals?
Other than that looks fine. Hook is interesting, stated in the article and checks out to source cited. I wonder if it can be made a little more to the point - Dumelow (talk) 19:10, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Celeste Caeiro handed flowers to soldiers during Portugal's Carnation Revolution?
- Dumelow I specified that Alto do Pina and Asilo 28 de Maio were boarding schools. Now let's see what they have to say about the image: I think it would be nice if that one was publishable. And about the altblurb you're proposing I'm not very convinced... I wouldn't want it to be understood that Caeiro only gave flowers during a revolution, but that her gesture ended up transforming the military coup into the Carnation Revolution. Perhaps:
ALT2 ... that Celeste Caeiro was the first to hand carnations to soldiers during Portugal's Carnation Revolution?- The idea would be a bit like that. I'm not very inspired today... _-_Alsor (talk) 22:29, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi _-_Alsor, yes that's fine. The article doesn't currently state that she was the first to hand out carnations. Can you add that (and check it is covered by the source). Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 06:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Dumelow. I don't know if it is necessary to explain it, since statements like “The idea was copied and the florists donated more flowers to the mutinous soldiers. The pictures of the soldiers with carnations in their guns appeared on front pages all over the world and the coup became known globally as the Carnation Revolution “ or the headlines of the reliable sources that have been cited as "Celeste Caeiro, Whose Flowers Gave a Name to a Revolt, Dies at 91" (NYT) or "Portugal's ’Carnations Lady' who gave a name to 1974 revolution dies at 91” (Reuters) already hint at this fact. What seems clear is that we have to find a better blurb than the one we have proposed with the ideas we both have of what it should be and what other editors who want to intervene can propose. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Dumelow, I propose another alternative blurb, taking it from the lead of Caeiro's article:
- Hello Dumelow. I don't know if it is necessary to explain it, since statements like “The idea was copied and the florists donated more flowers to the mutinous soldiers. The pictures of the soldiers with carnations in their guns appeared on front pages all over the world and the coup became known globally as the Carnation Revolution “ or the headlines of the reliable sources that have been cited as "Celeste Caeiro, Whose Flowers Gave a Name to a Revolt, Dies at 91" (NYT) or "Portugal's ’Carnations Lady' who gave a name to 1974 revolution dies at 91” (Reuters) already hint at this fact. What seems clear is that we have to find a better blurb than the one we have proposed with the ideas we both have of what it should be and what other editors who want to intervene can propose. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi _-_Alsor, yes that's fine. The article doesn't currently state that she was the first to hand out carnations. Can you add that (and check it is covered by the source). Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 06:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 that Celeste Caeiro 's actions led to the naming of the 1974 coup in Portugal as the Carnation Revolution? _-_Alsor (talk) 09:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi _-_Alsor, the source cited in the article says that this is one of only three possibilities for why it was called the Carnation Revolution. Do you have a better source you can replace it with that says it was definitely Caeiro's act that led to the naming? - Dumelow (talk) 09:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Dumelow, I have replaced this source with others that are more reliable, in English and support this fact. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:16, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 approved - Dumelow (talk) 12:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Dumelow Thank you very much for your work! _-_Alsor (talk) 12:45, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 approved - Dumelow (talk) 12:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Dumelow, I have replaced this source with others that are more reliable, in English and support this fact. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:16, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi _-_Alsor, the source cited in the article says that this is one of only three possibilities for why it was called the Carnation Revolution. Do you have a better source you can replace it with that says it was definitely Caeiro's act that led to the naming? - Dumelow (talk) 09:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Oliver Hutchinson
- ... that Oliver Hutchinson (pictured) was the subject of the first successful live demonstration of the television on 26 January 1926?
- Source: "Ninety years ago today, in a building in Soho, the first live television demonstration took place in front of a room of members of the Royal Institution and a journalist from The Times. A face – that of a man called Oliver Hutchinson – appeared on in a small 3.5ins by two inch picture. The Scot's first successful test of his Televisor was in 1924, when he transmitted a flickering image onto a wall ten feet away. Two years later, it was a clearer image of Hutchinson in a different room which is now regarded to be the first television demonstration as earlier showcases projected nothing more than faint silhouettes." from: "Google joins in celebrations for TV's 90th birthday". The Week. 20 January 2016. Retrieved 16 November 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Oliver Hutchinson was the subject of the first photograph of a television image (pictured) in 1926? Source: "the off-screen photograph of Oliver Hutchinson by Lafayette, the earliest photograph of a television image, first appeared in The Electrician of June 1926 (see figure 3-13)" from McLean, Donald F. (2000). Restoring Baird's Image. IET. p. 41. ISBN 978-0-85296-795-9.; the figure shown in the book is the same photo as here.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Garnatálg
Dumelow (talk) 21:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC).
- Starting to review. ProfGray (talk) 14:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Well done, thank you esp for the writing and for hunting down the sources for this bio. ALT0 -- would it be better to say "live" rather than public demonstration? The source says "live" and I'm not sure this is "public" in our current usage of the term. Might also move (pictured) after 'television' because it's a great image of that TV demo, not of the subject himself. ALT1 -- this is accurate but strikes me as an odd emphasis on the photograph rather than the pioneering step with television technology. ProfGray (talk) 15:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have changed "public" to "live" in the article if you want to go with that. I left it a bit ambiguous with the "pictured" as I can't find a source that says this is an image of the first demonstration, it could have been taken another time and wasn't published until June. The demonstration was 26 January. Not sure how long the current backlog is but this could well run on the 99th anniversary of the event? - Dumelow (talk) 19:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Great, if you agree "live" is better, then I'd suggest revising the first hook. Thanks for explaining about your caution with the image, that's wise. ProfGray (talk) 19:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I have amended ALT0 to "live" instead of "public" - Dumelow (talk) 08:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Great, if you agree "live" is better, then I'd suggest revising the first hook. Thanks for explaining about your caution with the image, that's wise. ProfGray (talk) 19:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have changed "public" to "live" in the article if you want to go with that. I left it a bit ambiguous with the "pictured" as I can't find a source that says this is an image of the first demonstration, it could have been taken another time and wasn't published until June. The demonstration was 26 January. Not sure how long the current backlog is but this could well run on the 99th anniversary of the event? - Dumelow (talk) 19:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Bea Hines
- ... that Bea Hines, the first African American woman to become a reporter at the Miami Herald, was sent out to report on a riot on her first day at work?
Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:26, 16 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hook meets requirements, though it is not rare for this to happen to reporters. I was able to verify the statement and the article looks good. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 23:11, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 17
[edit]Raul Meza Jr.
- ... that serial killer Raul Meza Jr. began using drugs at age eight?
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Swinub★ 04:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article meets all the relevant guidelines, hook is cited to a brand of MSNBC which is considered reliable by consensus. Hook is interesting, nice work! It is a wonderful world (talk) 22:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Emancipation Pictorial
- ... that the Emancipation Pictorial (issue pictured), a Chinese women's magazine, opposed women's political participation?
- Source: Wang Cancan (王璨璨) (7 June 2021). 解放画报 [Emancipation Pictorial]. Encyclopaedia of China (in Chinese) (3rd ed.). Archived from the original on 17 November 2024. Retrieved 17 November 2024. "因而提倡女权、男女平等、妇女解放等,但是反对女子参政. (Therefore, it advocated for women's rights, gender equality, women's liberation, etc., but opposed women's participation in politics.)"
- ALT1: ... that most of the contributors to the Emancipation Pictorial (issue pictured), a Chinese women's magazine, were men? Source: 中国妇女报刊史上首份画报 初期男作者投稿居多 [The First Pictorial Magazine in the History of Chinese Women's Newspapers and Periodicals; Most of the Early Contributors were Male]. Shenyang Daily (in Chinese). 8 March 2010. Archived from the original on 30 January 2011. Retrieved 17 November 2024 – via Sohu.com. "自本刊创办以来,无论是文稿还是图稿,竟男子作居多,女子作居少." (Since the establishment of this journal, most of the manuscripts and illustrations have been written by men, while few have been written by women.)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Phoebe Plummer (4 of 4)
- Comment:
Please note that I have three journal articles pending at the Reference Exchange, all of which interpret the magazine and its content. There may thus be further expansion.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:22, 17 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article was made on the 17th of this month, so is new enough. It is more than long enough and reads neutrally while properly using in-line citations. The copyvio detector finds no issues and I AGF on the translations, which appear to be accurate for the hooks as far as I can tell. Depressing hooks, but certainly fall under interesting and they are cited in-line. The QPQ has been done and the image presented is in the public domain and is visually understandable even at a small size. Looks good to go! SilverserenC 00:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
William C. Roberts (pastor)
- ... that Centre College president William C. Roberts oversaw the school's consolidation with another institution to become Central University of Kentucky? Source: https://sc.centre.edu/ency/c/central.html and https://sc.centre.edu/ency/r/roberts.html
- ALT1: ... that William C. Roberts had to resign a pastorate in Columbus, Ohio, because his wife's illness was said to be "incurable" unless she returned to her home state of New Jersey? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/daily-ohio-statesman/158933923/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/David Headley Green
PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 00:54, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi PCN02WPS, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 17 November and far exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources; I didn't find any issue with overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck on sources; hook facts are interesting, mentioned in the article and check out to sources cited; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 09:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 18
[edit]Ian Fyfe (Daily Mirror journalist)
- ... that British war correspondent Ian Fyfe was killed on D-Day while landing in a glider with troops attacking the Merville Gun Battery?
- Source: "Ian Fyfe was a Daily Mirror reporter who volunteered to travel across the Channel in a glider to cover the Normandy landings. But the glider crashed in swamps near its planned landing spot near the Nazis’ strategic Merville Gun Battery, and Ian became the only journalist to die on D-Day." from: Parry, Tom (29 April 2022). "Nephew of hero journalist who died in WW2 'emotional' as he visits new memorial". The Mirror. Retrieved 16 November 2024.
Dumelow (talk) 13:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
- article is recently created, long enough and within policy. Hook is interesting and short enough. QPQ is complete. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Doori Land
- ... that a South Korean actor sold off his belongings and went $7 million into debt in order to keep his amusement park running? Source: [29]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Murder of Wang Lianying
- Comment: I had a previous account (User:toobigtokale) that I retired per WP:RTV that had more than 5 noms, idr if I had any QPQs needed. So just reviewing an article now anyway
seefooddiet (talk) 22:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new enough (created November 18), long enough, and NPOV. Hook is undoubtedly interesting. Hook is inline cited to the Los Angeles Times, which is RS. No image. Earwig indicates copyvio unlikely (14.5%). No QPQ required. Good to go! Chetsford (talk) 22:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Murad Al-Katib
- ... that Murad Al-Katib provided 700 million meals of Saskatchewan-grown chickpeas, lentils and wheat to a United Nations program for Syrian refugees?
Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:50, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Happy to review this one. All elements of the article pass the DYK criteria, hook is interesting and cited. Good to go! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 11:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Anarchism without adjectives
- ... that some anarchists reject adjectives?
- Source: Esenwein, George Richard (1989). "Anarquismo sin adjectivos". Anarchist Ideology and the Working-class Movement in Spain, 1868-1898. University of California Press. pp. 134–154. ISBN 978-0520063983.
- ALT1: ... that anarchism without adjectives has been described as an ecumenical or non-denominational form of anarchism? Source: Esenwein, George Richard (1989). "Anarquismo sin adjectivos". Anarchist Ideology and the Working-class Movement in Spain, 1868-1898. University of California Press. pp. 134, 137. ISBN 978-0520063983.
- ALT2: ... that anarchism without adjectives was formulated to counter sectarianism and dogmatism in the anarchist movement? Source: Esenwein, George Richard (1989). "Anarquismo sin adjectivos". Anarchist Ideology and the Working-class Movement in Spain, 1868-1898. University of California Press. pp. 134–137. ISBN 978-0520063983.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jill, Duchess of Hamilton
Grnrchst (talk) 09:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article was promoted to GA recently enough. I'm going to trust that the GA review addressed any content and sourcing concerns. WP:EARWIG says copyvio is unlikely. All three hooks are good, but the latter two might be a bit wordy and verbose, and the first one is punchier. This seems good to go to me! Di (they-them) (talk) 05:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
St. Gregory the Great Seminary
- ... that St. Gregory the Great Seminary was founded in a former juvenile mental hospital?
- Source: Rosman, Veronica (22 August 1998). "Nebraska's Own Seminary". Omaha World-Herald. pp. 65, 66. Retrieved 19 November 2024., Hovey, Art (18 April 1999). "Answering the Call". Lincoln Journal Star. pp. 1K, 3K. Retrieved 19 November 2024.
~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 05:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Darth Stabro, review follows: hook fact is interesting, mentioned in article and checks out to source cited; article created 19 November and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable enough sources for the subject (the rectors section is not cited but only includes information stated elsewhere in the article); I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources in a spotcheck; a QPQ is in progress. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 08:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Tomato Industrial Museum D. Nomikos
- ... that a museum of tomato processing (pictured) in Greece uses holographic mechanical fans to display images of workers? Source: "Two holographic fans were used that operate by exploiting their rotation frequency in combination with LED light emission from the fans to display the material." section 4.1 on the pdf: https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3609987.3610008
Lajmmoore (talk) 17:48, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 01:02, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 19
[edit]2022 Andover tornado
- ... that despite damaging over 1,000 buildings, the 2022 Andover tornado (pictured) only injured three people?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chris Wright (energy executive)
- Comment: Since I know this'll be brought up, tornado intensity does not equate to notability. This is a rare case of an EF3 tornado meeting our myriad of notability guidelines.
EF5 20:03, 19 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi @EF5:, review follows: article created 19 November and exceeds minimum length; article is well enough written and generally cited throughout, I've tagged a few instances where it is not; I am no tornado expert but the sources used look to be reliable for the subject; I noted that the "Meteorological synopsis" section is copy pasted from the source, but that this is from the federal NOAA so is PD; hook fact is interesting, stated in the article and checks out to sources; a QPQ has been carried out; image is OK but I wonder if the video could appear instead; they tend to do well at DYK. If you can address the citations needed I think this should be good to go - Dumelow (talk) 09:54, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I was actually just about to upload that video, but it appears that someone got to it first. Yes, that video would be much better. I’ll get to the citations in a bit. EF5 13:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: All CNs have been addressed. The stuff in the lede is cited in the main prose, same goes with infobox content. EF5 13:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I was actually just about to upload that video, but it appears that someone got to it first. Yes, that video would be much better. I’ll get to the citations in a bit. EF5 13:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @EF5:. Looks good to go - Dumelow (talk) 13:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 20
[edit]Transatlantic cables incident
- ... that in 1959, seamen from the warship USS Roy O. Hale (pictured) boarded the Soviet ship M/V Novorossiysk in response to a report from AT&T?
, and Incidents at Sea: American Confrontation and Cooperation with Russia and China, 1945–2016
Chetsford (talk) 01:18, 21 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Chetsford, great idea for an article. Review: created 21 November and exceeds minimum length; sources used look generally reliable (I am not sure about destroyerhistory.org but it is only used to cite the complement of the destroyer involved); article is fully cited inline; I don't have access to all the sources but didn't pick up on any issues with overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck; Earwig score is high but only because of the quoted article form the convention (which is PD and appropriate); image is PD (source states from Department of Defense); I can't access the sources cited for the hook but it is stated in the article so I will AGF; QPQ awaited but otherwise looks good - Dumelow (talk) 21:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Dumelow - QPQ now done! (For Destroyer History - I did some research on it a couple years ago and posed a question at RSN [30]. It didn't get much interest/response, unfortunately.) Chetsford (talk) 22:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good. I think the additional info you've provided at RSN helps demonstrate reliability - Dumelow (talk) 06:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Dumelow - QPQ now done! (For Destroyer History - I did some research on it a couple years ago and posed a question at RSN [30]. It didn't get much interest/response, unfortunately.) Chetsford (talk) 22:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 21
[edit]SpongeKnob SquareNuts
- ... that SpongeBob has an existential crisis in a porn parody?
Di (they-them) (talk) 05:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Nice hook and it's cited. The article is in good shape as well, and QPQ is provided here. No copyright violation concerns. The article is definitely...interesting! ~ Tails Wx 06:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)