User talk:Mjroots/Archive/Me

Re:Cowl (oast)

You can expand the article as you wish. If the templates remain there, it do not suggest that the article is nonnotable or something like that. After completing your work, you can certainly remove the templates. It would be a good idea if you place a template Article Under Construction unless the work is finished. Thanks. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 10:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Haworth cat rescue

When I saw the reference I nearly kept it except it was a link to the Cat Rescue website itself. If you can find another third party reference - try www.keighleynews.co.uk or archive.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk - then it would possibly be notable as a national award winner. Peanut4 (talk) 21:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Minor edits

Hi, I noticed that you mark the vast majority of your edits as minor. This is a misuse of the minor edit function; most of your edits change the content of articles. Please see Help:Minor edit. The edit that caught my eye: [1]. Thanks, Darkspots (talk) 12:54, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Darkspots (talk) 17:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Changing your preferences should do it. Thanks for being so responsive. Darkspots 07:37, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 18:46, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I know! Was trying to sort out an edit conflict and managed to lose my siggy! Mjroots (talk) 18:53, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Signing posts on talk pages

Hi, when you leave a comment on a talk page (e.g. [2] [3]), please remember to sign it, using --~~~~ or clicking on the "signature" button (above the edit box). That way your contributions to discussions can be identified as yours! Thanks, --RFBailey (talk) 16:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Note to self:- try to remember!

RE:ATTACK PAGE

Hi there! Thanks for telling me about that... much appreciated... know I just have to figure out why the user would want to create an attack page on me. Could you provide any information to enlighten my mind? Please reply on my talk page Thanks! The Helpful One ^(Review) 19:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

try

I will have a try, but can you include the fact that it is in the hook... I think you shouldn't need a calculator if the fact is notable ... then note (and ref) it. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 18:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Various...

Hi Mj,

1. Are you interested in Train Spotting World, Plane Spotting World, or Worldwide Trams Wikia? They all seem withing your remit, so I would presume you would be interested!
2. Finally, Train Spotting World is good for articles about specific trams etc, such as So'ton 45 and a few others (3 London ones and a Leeds one so far!).

Thanks,

BG7 11:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

My Talk Page

I Would appreciate it if you would not cause vandalism to my talk page. Thank You AnnaJGrant (talk) 11:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Note Posting user warnings for vandalism on other editors talk pages is not vandalism! Mjroots (talk) 11:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle

you left a message on my talk page saying you were unsure of how to revert multiple vandalism edits... you might want to take a look at Wikipedia:TW, it's the piece of software I use.. greets, -- Boris Barowski (talk) 17:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Deleted articles

hel im little dan 9999 and karl is sitting next to me and is very upset that you deleted the article he wrote on my user can you please un-delete it or replace it thankyou Littledan9999 talk 17 April 2008

Hi this is Aaron Taylor

i would like to inform you that the article on gerard mooney was not a personal attack and was infact completely factual!!!

its was only slightly derogitory after littledan9999 edited it

gerrard mooney was sat next to me as i was writing the article and did not find it in any way offensive!

thankyou for reading.Aarontaylor1990 talk 17 April 2008

Speedy question

Hi. :) You seem to be actively editing at the moment. I'm evaluating speedy deletions and came upon your tag of مكتبة الاسكندرية. I've tried to locate the other language Wikimedia project on which it exists, but I haven't been able to find it through the usual google copy & search. Can you point it out to me so that I can address the request? Thanks. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:00, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

If it's not on another Wikimedia project, it is not currently speediable because of language concerns. I can't find any sign that it exists on another Wikimedia project. I take it from your note that you haven't seen it elsewhere, either. At the moment, I'm removing the speedy tag to allow the translation process to continue. If I've misunderstood you and you do know that it exists on another Wikimedia project, please let me know and I'll restore the speedy request. Thanks. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:10, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I know. :/ I've put a note on the pages for translation requesting that they expedite it, and I'm actively looking for an available translator to ask specific overview. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:20, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

2003 entry regarding Chillenden Windmill collapse

I've reverted your addition to 2003, "* October 13 - Chillenden Windmill collapses in a gale. The mill was rebuilt in 2005." It appears the dates in the Chillenden Windmill article are reversed. Please correct, then re-add a correct entry to 2003 and/or 2005. Thanks. --Art Smart (talk) 12:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Scrolling refs

It's not just me, it's the entire community. The template that was originally created for these was deleted several times, and the provision against this style was finally added directly into Wikipedia:Citing sources (emphasis mine): "Scrolling lists should never be used because of issues with readability, accessibility, printing, and site mirroring. Additionally, it cannot be guaranteed that such lists will display properly in all web browsers." Circeus (talk) 15:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I never understood why we should worry about screenspace any more than we worry about server space. Screenspace ought to be used carefully in some situation (e.g. big templates or large article-length tables), but hiding away te element that is supposed to legitimize the articles? That seems entirely contradictory. Circeus (talk) 15:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your advice recently; it’s food for thought. On a different subject, see here for a reply. Xyl 54 (talk) 14:26, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks,

BG7 17:26, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes I think there is. I always manually check, and i'm sure I remvoed it, but my computer is being so crap tonight that it must have not deleted it!

Thanks again for the heads up!

BG7 17:33, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Precision of measurements

Hi Mjroots, I was probably a bit rash in some of the revisions to the precision of the conversions on New Mill, Cross in Hand, although I would stand by some of them. One way of looking at it is that the imperial measurements, if you assume the precision of 1 inch (although not stated), are really just in inches not feet and inches. Then consider the number of significant digits in each measurement, being very wary about providing more significant digits in the conversion than are provided in the original measurement. For example 9 feet is 108 inches. Assuming precision of 1 inch there are 3 significant digits and it is plausible to provide at most three significant digits in the conversion. The conversions in the article that would concern me are 4 feet (48 inches - only 2 sig digits so the conversion should not usually have more than 2 sig digits -> 1.2 m) and 45 feet (540 inches - 3 sig digits -> 13.7 m). You say that using only one decimal place is insufficient. Consider that using 2 decimal places in this case is too much. You are implying precision that is not available. I like consistency too, though internal consistency within Wikipedia is probably the place to start rather than worrying about external sites. I think you are still able to compare measurements if there is different (unstated) precision in the measurements given by an external website. I don't think neatness is a valid reason to imply precision.Bleakcomb (talk) 11:55, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry!

Thank you for the information. (I'm the one who tagged the windmill lists). I am still learning. Drewhamilton (talk) 05:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

East Anglia Windmills

Hello Mjroots

I have no problem with you creating a template splitting East Anglia in to its respective counties. I hope you will replacing the East Anglia template with the one you will make for Norfolk.If I can help in any way let me Know?  stavros1  ♣ 

• I am really impressed with the Norfolk Mills website, well done, and I have found it really useful in searching out Windmills and Watermill in Norfolk. Like you I have a fascination with all things wind powered and water powered.  stavros1  ♣ 

Hi Again

I would like to contribute by making the template for Norfolk if that’s alright. Were can I find the formula for the Template.  stavros1  ♣ 

I wish to protest

After checking the article 'Ashby's Mill, Brixton' (which I found in 'Did you know...' (congratulations by the way)) I was unable to find any minor errors that I could make myself feel important by correcting. Please don't let this happen again. You just don't realise how important it is to pathetic chaps like me to constantly seek out minor errors and correct them. People like you just ruin the fun, blah, blah, blah. MikeF9 (talk) 16:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC) (UTC)

Template:Infobox Windmill

Hi Mjroots, I worked on this template that you started. When you get back please take a look at it and let me know what you think. Shinerunner (talk) 01:06, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad you like it. I'm still learning about the coding and such. You can change the different titles in the template or the colour that I picked for the banners as well. This link (Web colors) will give you the codes for the available colours. Enjoy! Shinerunner (talk) 09:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

(Example)

|-
! class="fn org" style="background:#D8BFD8 <--- To Change the Colour  ; font-size:   
120%"colspan="2"| Origin Information <-- Changes the banner title

|-
{#if:{{{name_of_mill}}}| <--- To change the template
! class="note" style="text-align: left; font-weight: normal;" | Mill Name : <--To change the title
| {{{name_of_mill}}}
}}

If you have been watching my commons account you will see that I have made a trip to Glossop, Kinder Scout and the Derbyshire/ Cheshire pennines in general. It reintroduced me to cotton mills, hence List of mills in Longdendale and Glossopdale. I am starting to look at doing a generic mills infobox that will be suitable for watermills and spinning/ weaving mills. It will be some time in coming but for the moment I have it as a Subpage User:ClemRutter/Sample infobox. I though you would like to watch it and comment as it grows. A lot of these mills were water driven, but then introduced a subsidary steam engine. Quarry Bank Mill. It is a good opportunity to learn the mystery of writing infoboxes. ClemRutter (talk) 14:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Rollback feature

Can I tempt you to accept enabling the Wikipedia:Rollback feature on your account? Basically it's like undoing all the edits by the last editor - dire warnings about using this feature of vandalism apply - only with a single click. In an ideal world we'd just enable it automatically on every sensible editor's account, only there's no simple rule for "sensible" alas! Leave a note here if it's of interest and I can push the button. Even if you only use it once a year, that's no problem. Any questions, leave them here and I'll do my best to answer them. Regards, Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Nice joke

Nice joke here. I should have sent this message as soon as I rejected the nom, but I was busy myself. Anyway, here it is now. I thought it was actually a serious nom from some newbie before seeing that it was actually from someone with 50+ DYKs. Have a cookie for your sense of humour.

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Thank you

The general concept of using recent changes & article lists to monitor project articles has been around for quite some time, but it was kind of you to acknowledge my work to implement it for WP:SHIPS. I spent an embarrassingly long time trying to create a full list before I conceded to overflowing buffers and created the US and UK lists instead :) Maralia (talk) 16:56, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Mahratta DYK Nom

Don't withdraw your DYK nom; there are plenty of online sources. See Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL. And try News, book, scholar. -- Suntag ☼ 17:54, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I see several sources in this specifically discussing SS Mahratta (1917), none of which is cited in the article. -- Suntag ☼ 18:21, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

What the heck?

What was this all about? Since when have the various parts of a windmill been proper nouns? Why the heck would you undo my work? Parts of windmills are NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT proper nouns, so they should NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT be capitalised.) What's more, you simply swept out every other improvement I also added - why oh why oh why would you reinstate the italicisation of the name of the windmill at the start of every paragraph? (Oh, and since you don't seem to understand what a proper noun, is, Baker Street Mill IS a proper noun, so that DOES need to be capitalised, which is why I left the name of the mill capitalised. Also, the article previously said "A steam mill was built near the mill towards the end of its working life. A new boiler being supplied in 1906" - the latter part isn't a separate sentence, it's grammatical nonsense. That's why I combined these into a single, correctly-structured sentence - which split back to give a load of nonsense. What a waste of my time. 81.159.104.237 (talk) 08:29, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK query

Hello! Your submission of Steamboats of the upper Columbia and Kootenay Rivers at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed. There still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Jolly Janner (talk) 23:50, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK entry issue

Hello! Your submission of Lympne Airport at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed. There still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Nsk92 (talk) 02:38, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK nomination:Turkish Airlines Flight 634

Hi Mjroots! You did well. Thanks a lot for the DYK nomination of the article Turkish Airlines Flight 634. Cheers! CeeGee (talk) 08:11, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Coordinate templates

Please note that the old coor * family of coordinate templates are now deprecated in favour of {{Coord}}. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 17:27, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. Will try to remember in future. does this apply to {{oscoor}} too? If so, what do you use to produce a grid ref? Mjroots (talk) 17:31, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I used the correct template, so why was my edit reverted as "unnecessary". Co-ordinates have been given in degrees, minutes and seconds for centuries. Mjroots (talk) 17:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

{{Coord}} is designed to take input in DMS format or decimal format (also used for centuries) and output both. Please read its documentation. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 17:58, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of MV Domala

Hello! Your submission of MV Domala at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Shubinator (talk) 22:29, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I've accepted it. Nice article by the way. Shubinator (talk) 22:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of SS Benalbanach (1946)

Hello! Your submission of SS Benalbanach (1946) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Shubinator (talk) 06:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Red Star Belgrade and the Munich air disaster

The only association that Red Star Belgrade has with the Munich air disaster is that they were Manchester United's last opponents before the crash. The accident did not affect Red Star in any way. – PeeJay 11:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Category:Railway stations not opened

I notice that this category you created is unpopulated (empty). In other words, no Wikipedia pages belong to it. If it remains unpopulated for four days, it may be deleted, without discussion, in accordance with Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#C1. I'm notifying you in case you wish to (re-)populate it by adding [[Category:Railway stations not opened]] to articles/categories that belong in it.

I blanked the category page. This will not, in itself, cause the category to be deleted. It serves to document (in the page history) that the category was empty at the time of blanking and also to alert other watchers that the category is in jeopardy. You are welcome to revert the blanking if you wish. However, doing so will not prevent deletion if the category remains empty.

If you created the category in error, or it is no longer needed, you can speed up the deletion process by tagging it with {{db-author}}.

Best regards, --Stepheng3 (talk) 20:29, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your cooperation. --Stepheng3 (talk) 05:05, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Just wanted to say thank you...

... for this and your support and confidence -- Tinu Cherian - 08:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Your CSD tag

Please note that you submitted an inappropriate CSD tag, as that user simply seems to have information about themselves on their user talk page, as opposed to directly advertising some product or company. You may want to advise them to move said information to their user page, if you wish. It Is Me Here ^{t / c} 18:33, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Toolserver.org articles and redirects created

Thanks for the link in your userbox on your main page. I was able to find out accurately how many articles and redirects I had done. Chris (talk) 12:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

At least the toolserver you bummed off is better than the piece of junk on articles created that truncate it at the 100 most recent articles created. Chris (talk) 13:03, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Autoreviewer granted

Hi, Mjroots/Archive I have enabled the userright Autoreviewer on your account. This will cause the Mediawiki software to automatically mark new pages you create as patrolled so as to save new page patrollers time. If you want the userright removed, feel free to contact me. Happy editing, Malinaccier (talk) 18:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I guess the bot that used the list did not always work quickly or reliably. Here's the discussion if you want to read it :). Malinaccier (talk) 18:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Categories

Hi. Please could you fix up the new categories you have created? Check the instructions at Template:cat class. This will ensure the parent categories are correct. Cheers, — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

2010 F1 season

No problem with your edit, we just had an edit conflict because we were writing at the same time. I simply replaced my already written text over yours because it offered more of an explanation of why BMW Sauber was withdrawing. ^IIIV_IX (Talk) 08:32, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

WikiBirthday

I saw from here that it's been exactly four years since you joined the project. Happy WikiBirthday! Keep up the good work, rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 05:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

Eh? I think you have the wrong person. The only edit I made recently to Kent was to revert vandalism. Pterre (talk) 08:29, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

OK, no problem - an easy mistake to make! My broadband has been down all morning so only just got back on. Pterre (talk) 11:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Assist with the vandal

Thanks for the uw-van4 on the submarine vandal. I was twiddling with Twinkle and arv'd it, but couldn't find the warn template quick enough. Much appreciated. --RabidDeity (talk) 08:19, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar

Thank you! :) --User:Woohookitty ^{Diamming fool!} 10:39, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Just dropping a note to say thanks for the barnstar! It means a lot to me. BlazerKnight (talk) 18:37, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in SecurePoll feedback and workshop

As you participated in the recent Audit Subcommittee election, or in one of two requests for comment that relate to the use of SecurePoll for elections on this project, you are invited to participate in the SecurePoll feedback and workshop. Your comments, suggestions and observations are welcome.

For the Arbitration Committee,
Risker (talk) 08:28, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

SecurePoll feedback invitation

Hi Mjroots, the RFC you participated in was Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee 2; that RFC has a section related to the use of SecurePoll as the means of secret voting. I am not sure if you participated in that section, we simply listed all of the editors who had participated in any part of that RFC. Nonetheless, should you have any comments, you are of course still welcome to participate. Risker (talk) 08:38, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ship articles on DYK

Yeah, just the fact that the article is sometimes called something completely different (due to the ship changing names) and therefore, it can be hard to find the one you've linked. It's not a problem at all, and all the articles I've come across are really good articles. It can just be a bit confusing, that's all! Harrias (talk) 15:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Emotions flooding over me

Many thanks for the Barnstar. Never had one before, I'm quite overcome! Skinsmoke (talk) 05:17, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar awarded for Charles Fryatt

If you ever want to join in at WP:COPYCLEAN, we get probably a dozen of those a day, plus the thousands listed at WP:CCI. And even if you don't want to join in there, great job here. :D --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:39, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Good enough for me. Every little bit helps. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:10, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

ANI comment

Thank you for those kind words you said about me at WP:ANI. Very decent of you :) -- Scjessey (talk) 13:55, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Miramar

You wrote to me some time ago because of broken links. Have you seen the note on start page that the website won't be public available anymore? Can you add a note to {{Cite Miramar}}? Merlissimo 02:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Om nom nom...

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Debkafile on RSN

Can you revisit WP:RSN and say which article Debka was being considered for? The response was a lot faster than I'd like to see on RSN, and I think this deserves a closer look. Squidfryerchef (talk) 00:13, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar for MV Willesden (1944)

I had at first been impressed by the MV Willesden (1944) article, but when I saw just HOW MUCH you contribute, especially to topics of interest in the UK, I thought "Tireless Contributor" seemed pretty appropriate. --SmokingNewton (talk) 07:33, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

GA reviews

Hello, Mjroots. You have new messages at Pyrotec's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Pyrotec (talk) 11:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

This might be the most organised talk page I've ever seen. Just a note to let you know that I've opened the second GA review on BOAC Flight 712. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 19:41, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Irish Oak GA

Thanks for sponsoring the Irish Oak to GA. Much appreciated. Now I return to Irish Mercantile Marine during World War II. regards - ClemMcGann (talk) 02:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the appreciation! Only got back today and have to run! Has it been nominated for DYK? Cheers! Shir-El too 12:43, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Twit

I have ignored your request to identify the twit, what a joke, are you serious? Off2riorob (talk) 21:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

ITN

Thanks!XavierGreen (talk) 18:24, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Ping

answered you on my dutch talk page (with delay). Akoopal (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC).

Should be ashamed for the delay, but responded to you on my dutch talkpage. Akoopal (talk) 20:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Nazi ships

Why create Category:World War II merchant ships of Nazi Germany? How is it different from the preceding Category:World War II merchant ships of Germany? There was only one kind of Germany during World War II. Binksternet (talk) 16:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Signpost

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Thanks!

Mjroots, thank you very much for the star and kind words. Appreciated. Herostratus (talk) 13:00, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

RFA Thank spam

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which failed with 10 support, 26 oppose, and 13 neutral. Your comments were much appreciated.

--White Shadows ^{There goes another day} 17:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

WP:CENT

I believe my addition was appropriate, as an issue that is Wikipedia wide. Is there an appropriate venue to discuss this, such as the talk page or WP:AN? Mjroots (talk) 11:04, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

The talkpage of the source of the conflict is acceptable - no need to move the venue. Wikipedia:Requests for comment is a common place to announce a discussion on article content, as are the talkpages of any related WikiProjects, and perhaps a request for input on the talkpage of any relevant guidelines where editors experienced in such matters are likely to come forward. People who tend to have Cent watched, are those who are interested in policy related discussions. Wikipedia:Canvassing gives more advice. Regards SilkTork *^YES! 11:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Notification

Please see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Proposed_amendment, and the subthreads above it. You are being notified as you were one of the users who proposed or discussed the original sanction. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi:)

Hi Mjroots. I took the liberty of adding a link to one of your replies at the Help Desk. I hope that's ok with you. Warm regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 08:59, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Editnotice you created

Hi Mjroots, would you please remove the editnotice you created? Although I am unhappy with the mention of Persia in the lead and all that one complete paragraph on the name in the lead, but I accept it like this. I also removed a duplicate of the sentence "formerly known as Persia". Thanks. Xashaiar (talk) 20:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Your discussion at ANI

Hi - just wanted to say sorry I missed the discussion you raised earlier regarding disruption at AFD, as I completely agree with you. There are some editors, not just the one you referred to, who seem to take any opposing view personally, and feel the need to argue against it. This applies to other !vote discussions as well as AFD, eg RFA. The problem is that there isn't currently ant guidelines against this, just good essays such as WP:STICK. Perhaps some sort of bahavioural guideline about this could be put written with this in mind, stating that querying one or two opposing views is acceptable, whereas querying most or all could be considered disruptive. I'd certainly support any such guideline.

Meanwhile, hope you don't feel to stressed about the issue. Keep up the good work! —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) (logged on as Pek) 19:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I feel the urge to justify my closing the discussion, it's the least you deserve since the thread was brought in nothing but good faith. First of all, for the stated purpose of the thread, I applaud that you brought it, checking in with the community is an important way to get a quick sanity check when you're unsure of something - it's why there are so many self-brought block reviews posted on ANI, people recognize the value of it. The response came in at snowy levels, which, while indicative of consensus, wouldn't have been worthy of a boxing of the thread. That came about because of the bickering and sniping going on between Mick and a couple editors. Basically, the discussion found he did nothing wrong in the XfD's, but as a consequence of that discussion he started toeing up to the civil line and others were pretty clearly baiting him to try and get him to step over it. When an editor is caught up in that sort of situational double entendre its best to just let everything cool down- It's hardly fair to punish someone for their response to a request for sanctions about an incident that wasnt worthy of sanctions in the first instance. Don't interpret this as me sheltering Mick from anything. If you're willing to look back 3 or 4 years ago (around this time), you'll find Mick wasn't always the deletionist he's cast to be - When myself and others began enforcing the WMF licensing policy and removing screen shots from lists of episode articles to correct gratuitous fair use image abuse, he directed quite a bit of his anger at myself. I shrugged it off. I've edited as an IP since 2004, have had this account since 2005, and have seen a lot of angry, angry users. Mick is ornery but he's not a troll and his intent is to improve the project. That earns you a lot of toleration. We are willing to put up with a lot of shit if you have a genuine desire and ability to help build a free/libre reference work on your own time for the benefit of all humanity. Take a Carl Sagan moment to think about the implications of what we are all doing here right now and it helps bridge the differences between contributors. There's a lot less separating us and all our different views and a lot more bringing us together and for that reason alone it means we are all deserving of a bit of respect from each other, at least enough to do a fellow contributor a favor by not letting him shoot himself in the foot. -- ۩ Mask 20:10, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

RFC

Please note: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mjroots. MickMacNee (talk) 19:01, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Root causes

The roots seem to be found in the following record. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:40, 19 September 2010 (UTC).

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Wow

It seems barnstarts are a bit passe these days - very impressed by your continued and sustained hard work at cleaning up shipwreck lists - well done! SatuSuro 07:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Well if I had the technical savvy I'd make the very quiet shipwreck project a barnstart so you could get it! - It must be a few years since I have touched the australian ones - and the southeast asian ones (ie shipwrecks that dont have arts or lists) are crying out to have more work done on em - cheers anyways SatuSuro 07:16, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Touche (the irony ....) - and for all the things I said a few years back about the ships project :( - and the deadness of the shipwreck project in general - me thinks I am only one with your really good work on watch! oh well maybe I should try ... and as I am about to start the damned Asia project next week or so - hey with that I should get some practice with template work - and... well dont hold your breath :| SatuSuro 07:27, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Profoundly embarrassingly silent - (like many projects that hide their inactivity) - some time back I somewhat put a few noses out by claiming that over-tag by some established ships members of shipwrecks article exhibited nothing short of profound ignorance (but I said it a bit more circuitously) - as the scope and overlap issue made the over-tagging absurd - but I seemed to be facing the barrel of a milhist/ships mafia hit squad - so I simply shrugged and walked off - then since after my absence off wp while i was travelling last year I have noticed little or no activity - apart from the odd message - similar to the Australian maritime history project that I started - I personally still believe the overlapping issue to be one of fairly absurd proportions - bit like some other projects who take their scope a little too literally - but as for anyone who might pop up at the talk page - I have no idea, I suspect little or no reaction might be the possibility - probably better just to do something - specially if it gives some possible life to the shipwreck cause :( SatuSuro 12:39, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

A moment

I just want to let you know, you're pretty much awesome. I laughed a bit at your latest reply on ANI. It's a good thing that you can make a good one liner like that (which also makes a jab at your goal) and keep your good humor about you. It seems like we're never quite on the same side on anything, so I dont have many opportunities to spout off some nice things about you, but know that that is solely a consequence of circumstances. I'm fast becoming impressed with you. Still disagree though :) -- ۩ Mask 17:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Access dates

I thought that access dates in citations should refer to the most recent time an editor has checked the source? With webpages these can sometimes change over time, potentially becoming irrelevant or just unavailable (albeit both of these are uncommon with the BBC!), so whenever I edit the references on an article, I always check for this and update the access date accordingly. Consequently I'm not sure why you though this edit was necessary. Thanks, --RFBailey (talk) 22:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, I didn't claim that either (i) the content of the reference had changed in this instance, or (ii) that it was necessary to edit the access date every time. It's just that it didn't make sense for you to change the access date backwards, given that someone has checked it more recently. By all means change the date formatting, but leave the most recent date. --RFBailey (talk) 13:02, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for dispelling a comment about me being a kid, perhaps because I tried to get down to some basic facts they confused simple arguments with being young. Not sure if it does any good as we dont appear to know the WP:TRUTH. MilborneOne (talk) 20:13, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Irrelevant template

I have just removed {{Tonbridge}} from a few articles on people who were pupils of Tonbridge School. The template is almost entirely irrelevant to the biographical articles on people who were educated in their youth at that town.

However, from a quick check of Category:Old Tonbridgians it seems that you added it to many articles in that category, and a peek at your contribs shows a long run of them on 14 November. Please can you remove the template from the other Old Tonbridgians, unless the town has a much greater significance in their lives than merely being the loacation of their boarding school? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:40, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi, re your removal of the {{Tonbridge}} from articles on Old Tonbridgians. The relevance is to Tonbridge, not to the person. The addition of the template where the person in question is on a "list of people from (place)" seemed like a good idea, but there have been a few objections. I don't see that a person being educated at a certain place is an insignificant event in their life, in many cases it can be quite the opposite, especially where a public school is involved. I won't replace the template where it's been removed, but I'm not going to remove the template from other biogs either. Mjroots (talk) 06:21, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

By all means, mention where somebody was at school, and categorise them accordingly. Put it in infoboxes too.

It's very rarely relevant to their notability, but it's a useful part of biographical background. In most cases, however, it merits only a part of a sentence in a biographical article, and rarely a whole sentence. In some cases, yes, the time at school leads to lifelong friendships, some of which can be significant in the biography ... but even when that is the case, the relevant article is the school, not the entire story of the town.

So including a large templated set of links to other things which happened to be in the same town as the school which gets a half-sentence mention is completely superfluous: it's straightforward spam. If someone is interested in that part of a person's life, they will go to the article on the school ... and the template would be appropriate there, but not on each biog.

I think it's a pity that you are leaving to others to remove your spam. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:35, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't consider that the addition of the template in good faith was spamming. One benifit of the use of the template is that it can assist in de-oprhaning articles in some cases. I don't think that any Old Tonbridgian biogs were de-orphaned by the use of the template, but it certainly has been the case in respect of other templates and associated articles. How about I work up from the bottom of the list, and you work down from the top? Mjroots (talk) 06:42, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I assume that you acted in good faith and didn't intend to spam, but that was the effect, and I hope that with the benefit of hindsight you can see that what may have seemed like a good idea at the time doesn't look so good on closer analysis. De-orphaning articles by adding a template with few dozen irrelevant links doesn't help, it just masks the underlying problem.

I see that you did the same thing with {{Royal Tunbridge Wells}}, and I have removed a bunch of them. Nearly all of those I have checked were inappropriate, and some were absurd, such as Gorge Cohen: the only mention of TW in the article is that he "has made appearances at the St. John's Primary School fair in Tunbridge Wells." A template for every place someone made an appearance? Yikes!

I have already done about a hundred of these, and I have another dozen in tabs which I'll go through now. I think that's a fair contribution from me, and I'll leave the rest to you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:55, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

List of Old Tonbridgians now done. For clarification, are you saying that the template should only be removed if a person was educated in the place in question, or that it should be removed in every case where the person is listed on a list of people from a certain place (i.e. covered by the use of the template on that list)? Mjroots (talk) 07:07, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm saying that it should only be there if the town is such a significant part of the article that the reader is likely to be looking for info on other aspects of the town. So it belongs, for example, on articles about places and organisations in the town, but in biographies only where there person is notable for their association with the town. (Perhaps a long-serving leader of the council, or a local philanthropist who did their good works in the area, or a builder who focused on building chunks of the town). That means that it doesn't belong in the overwhelming majority of biog articles on people from the town, because most of them will not be notable for being from there -- in those cases the town is a detail in an article about something else.

Think of what topics are most likely to be relevant for the reader of an article. If it's a biog of, say, a sportsperson, then the most relevant associated topics are those related to the sport: teams they played for, and templates for those may be appropriate. But unless navigation templates are restricted to the most directly relevant core topics of an article, then articles will rapidly fill up with templates which are of only tangential relevance for most readers.

One way of applying the relevance test is to consider that in general the template is most likely to belong on an article to which there is link from the template.

In most cases, a link to the town, or a category, is quite enough. HTH. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:25, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

'Scuse me for butting in, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that a navbox only belongs on those articles which are actually linked from the navbox. Can't find where that was though; WP:NAVBOX and WP:CLN don't seem to mention this. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:28, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

More superfluous templating

Hi again ...

Sorry to bug you again, but I was suprised to spot in one of my watchlists this edit to John Calcraft, in which you added {{Leeds, Kent}}.

The article on John Calcraft does not mention Leeds ... and the article Leeds, Kent does not mention Calcraft. So why is Calcraft included in the template, and why is the template been added to the article on him? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:48, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The Calcrafts (Sr and Jr) were amongst the owners of Leeds Abbey, as the house built on the site of Leeds Priory was known. Info is all there in the article, with online links to book ref used. Mjroots (talk) 20:52, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The Abbey has not so far been considered a sufficiently significant aspect of the lives of either Calcraft to merit even a passing mention in the biographical article of either of them. So using the template to link them to a whole load articles also unmentioned in the biogs is just more spam :( --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

That the articles on all the owners of Leeds Abbey need expanding to include the fact that they owned it does not make the addition of the template spamming. Capability Brown is said to have landscaped the grounds when the mansion was built (unverified as yet). Adding the template to his article would be spamming. These people were all owners of a significant building in Leeds, with Royal connections. IMHO, the addition of the template in all cases is justified. Mjroots (talk) 21:07, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The mere fact of ownership doesn't require splatting the article with a set of links to everything else to do with Leeds; it depend on the significance of Leeds in the biogs. For example, those who built the abbey are probably significant to the history of the village, and the village is prob a major aspect of their biogs ..,. but for people who are notable for a wholly different things, Leeds may just be footnote in their lives and the template give undue prominence to that aspect.

Checking your contribs to see how widely the template had been splatted, I found that {{Bearsted}} had also been spammed over lots of articles where the village was of at best tangential relevance. Please, can you stop this? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:17, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I think that BHG is correct with their assessment. Templates are for people and things that have a significant connection to the article subject, and this is a relatively minor connection at best. Weakopedia (talk) 21:37, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Are you really saying that ownership of the second most important residential building in a village is really a relatively minor connection? Have you read the article on Leeds Priory, which I significantly expanded earlier today? Mjroots (talk) 21:44, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Ownership comes in many difft flavours: it's quite possible to own a place and never set foot it it. You need to demonstrate that the building and the rest of the village are so significant in the life of that person that the biog article needs to link to all of them. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:57, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes to both. Good job on the priory article, but since you read it you'll realise that the Calcrafts played a minor role in its history, covering but a few years of the almost 700-year history of the site, and you probably know by now that the site played a minor role in the history of Calcraft senior since he didn't really live long enough for it to have done so. Are you really saying that Leeds is so bereft of history that you have to include people with little connection to the place just because they have a wiki-article? Weakopedia (talk) 22:28, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I'm sure that there is much that could be written about Leeds. Heck, the place even had a windmill!

Village templates

You asked: "how does the placing on a template on an article protect it from deletion? The placement of a template may de-orphan an article, but any editor acting in good faith is free to nominate an article for deletion should they consider that it is not notable enough to sustain an article. The result of an AfD discussion may be that the article is merged into another. Mjroots (talk) 09:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)"

It hides the problem that the orphan tag was meant to point out. I think what you are doing is wrong and is bad for the encyclopedia by creating a large number of false links. Please do not post on my talk page. I don't want to talk about this on my talk page. Please bring discussions to the articles/templates' talk pages. Thank you. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:01, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

H. F. Stephens

Please do not revert a good faith edit without explanation, as you did in this edit to H. F. Stephens.

I removed the template from that article because it gave grossly undue weight to a trivial connection: that H. F. Stephens's company bought a secondhand loco named after the village of Tenterden. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:41, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't need to give an edit summary when removing vandalism by means of rollback. As I have twice stated now, HFS was chairman of the biggest transport company based in Tenterden for over 30 years. This is not a "ridiculoulsy tenuous connection" by a very long chalk. Tenterden is not a tiny village, it is the major Wealden town in Kent with a very long history, and a limb of the Cinque Ports no less! Mjroots (talk) 20:46, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

As you well know, a good faith edit is not vandalism.

I see that you reinstated the template again, on the grounds that he " was chairman of the Tenterden headquartered KESR for over 30 years".

Sounds plausible, except that his career was also significant as a railway builder, and he was involved with dozens of such railways. The act that he was chair of the KESR is only one of many aspects of his career, and the location of KESR's hq is a piece of trivia in the context of such a lengthy career with so many railways.

The article doesn't even mention the location of KESR's HQ, so spamming on a template about Tenterden gives grossly undue weight to that factoid.

Your template-spamming has been discussed at length, in several locations. pPlaese stop it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:55, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

The info is already in the article if you would only look to see it. Issue raised at Talk:H. F. Stephens and WT:UKRail notified to get outside input. Mjroots (talk) 20:58, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Read the article before spamming it.

Apart from the template-spam, the only mention of the word "Tenterden" in the current version of the article is the loco. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Read the section indicated on the talk page, it clearly states HFS was chairman of the K&ESR. The headquarters of the K&ESR is, and always has been, Tenterden. Mjroots (talk) 21:05, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

So what? The fact that the hq was in that place is not even mentioned in the article. So why the template with all the other links to the place which is not even mentioned in the body text? This is yet more of your long history of template-spam. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:11, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

More Kent villages navboxes

I have been going through the navboxes for Kent villages, and so far I have found a total of about 39 which I believe should be deleted. I was nominating them individually until I realised that this would create far too many discussions, so I started grouping them by common characteristics. Using this grouping mechanism means hat you have not been individually notified about each template, so please count this as collective notification of them all, at: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 December 19#Kent_villages_navboxes.

Note that this includes a further 3 navboxes-to-nowhere, in addition to the previously-nominated Template:Langley, with no blue links. That's four navboxes-to-nowhere, and I'm not finished yet.

Please may I ask you to consider refraining from the creation of any more navboxes until the TFD process has established what the consenus is on their appropraiteness? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:38, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

If you had bothered to check, you will have seen that I haven't created any new village templates since you nominated the first two. Mjroots (talk) 07:16, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I hadn't spotted any which had been created since the first TFD, but wasn't sure whether that was intentional restraint or just a coincidence, so I thought it would be a good ides to make the suggestion explicitly.

As to "bothered to check", I suggest that you should be careful for rebuking others in that regard. Your collection of utterly-pointless navboxes-to-nowhere would not have been created if you had bothered to chcek any of the relevant guidelines such as WP:REDNOT and WP:NAVBOX.

Nor would you have falsely accused me of "vandalism" if you had bothered to check WP:NOTVAND. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:01, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

WP:AN suggestion

Next time you post about an issue to WP:AN, it would be helpful if you refrained from systematically misrepresenting the situation, and if you made some effort to notify all involved parties rather than just the one who you misleadingly claim agrees with you.

As I set out in detail at WP:AN

• Mjroots has created a large series of pointless navboxes, by relying on the essay WP:NBFILL, and appears not to have read the relevant guidelines WP:NAVBOX and WP:REDNOT
• Over 40 of these navboxes have been nominated at TFD, and in not one case has anyone other than Mjroots supported keeping any of them
• Apart from the !votes at TFD, 3 other editors have explicitly opposed Mjroots's use of the navboxes: User:PamD, User:Weakopedia and User:Ssilvers. Those editors should have been notified of this complaint.
• The comment by ClemRutter was not that the navboxes should be kept, but rather that it was too much hassle to delete them
• No other editor has supported Mjroots's creation of these navboxes for small villages, and no other editor has supported Mjroot's padding them out with links which breach WP:NAVBOX

I have asked there for advice on whether your sustained misconduct is better addressed at WP:ANI or through an RFC/U. But it would really be much much much much much much much much much much much much much easier for everybody if you would simply read WP:NAVBOX and WP:REDNOT.

You have

• falsely accused me of vandalism
• falsely accused me "degrading" templates by removing links which do not meet the criteria in WP:NAVBOX and WP:REDNOT
• falsely accused me of trying to disguise those removals from TFD
• falsely claimed that my concerns are not shared by others

... and despite several attempts by me to engage with you on the application of WP:NAVBOX and WP:REDNOT to your navboxes, you choose not to continue those discussions, but instead to make a bogus complaint to the Admin's Noticeboard.

You are an admin, and the community expects that you should know better than to engage in such shoddy conduct. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:11, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

I was required to notify ClemRutter per the notice when posting at AN, as I had mentioned him in the post. I've not yet read your reply, and will do so next. As I made clear at AN, I was trying to seek some uninvolved input. Mjroots (talk) 19:44, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

If you want outside input, open an WP:RFC on the topic. But please don't try a repetition of your false claims at AN, such as your bogus assertion that only three of us have commented so far. If you were acting in good faith, you would withdraw this nonsense without needing to be asked.

But as it say at the top of WP:AN, "These pages are not the place to raise disputes over content, or reports of abusive behaviour". You used WP:AN to raise a dispute over content, and make bogus suggestions of abusive behaviour. Bad idea. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors

I saw the quality of your contributions at DYK and clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Wikipedia contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador, Sadads (talk) 16:21, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure what you think you are unqualified at. You seem to be quite the content developer and have experience in several processes which our students are participating in. Also, you don't show any signs of being particularly hostile to any users. Is there anything in particular you are concerned with? Sadads (talk) 14:25, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Not to be too persistent, but I feel you are doubting yourself a bit too much. Some thoughts on your reasoning: Many of us don't use IRC, only a small group is regularly on it and we have enough ambassadors now, not everyone needs to chip in (I use other communication channels with my students like email, facebook chat and gchat). Also, in both cases of disagreement it appears that you responded with civility in response to both cases and you do not appear to be deliberately provoking other users. If you mention both cases and your lessons learned in the application, I would be surprised if you didn't pass (we are looking for a history of aggressive behaviour not passionate misunderstanding or temporary poor judgement, User:Piotrus for instance is an Ambassador, but has had a considerable Arbcom case to his name). You also appear to be genuinely welcoming and helping new users from the looks of your contributions. Think of the Ambassador program as a chance to make positive impact on students! Whether or not you choose to apply, I would like to say good luck editing and don't doubt your own ability to be an empathetic and helpful contributer! Sadads (talk) 15:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Speciality

Hi

So, rather than me keep posting notes asking you for advice :¬) what is your speciality in terms of Wiki, is it history of air transport, aircraft or facilities etc.?

And, in case it is general aircraft history, have you any idea what the aircraft registration K- prefix was used for in the 1920s?

I noticed it on the photos of the Westland Limousine in Flight magazine K:126 [4]. Chaosdruid (talk) 01:25, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I do mind

never having written on film directors or on cricket, I fail to see your fear of confusion. Lugnad (talk) 12:36, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

List of accidents and incidents involving the DC-3 in the 1960s

This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a search with the contents of List of accidents and incidents involving the DC-3 in the 1960s, and it appears to be very similar to another Wikipedia page: List of accidents and incidents involving the DC-3 in the 1970s. It is possible that you have accidentally duplicated contents, or made an error while creating the page— you might want to look at the pages and see if that is the case. If you are intentionally trying to rename an article, please see Help:Moving a page for instructions on how to do this without copying and pasting. If you are trying to move or copy content from one article to a different one, please see Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia and be sure you have acknowledged the duplication of material in an edit summary to preserve attribution history.

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Attribution is not necessary here as I created the 1970s list and therefore I am free to re-use it without attribution per WP:CWW. Mjroots (talk) 16:08, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

No harm done but...

You forgot to sign... here. Toodles~! --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 09:22, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Oops!, Now signed. . Mjroots (talk) 09:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

• BTW, are you aware that there is a separate incident of Air France Flight 007? That happened back in 1962, so this might become some kind of complication to the naming of the present incident. Best. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 10:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

• The way around the Air France Flight 7 problem is to dab by year. Should the recent A380 article get deleted, then a hatnote on the other article can point readers to the correct section in the Air France accidents and incidents article. Mjroots (talk) 10:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

• Okie dokie~! --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 11:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

On this day

These edits increased the number of tomorrow's "On this day" items from 7 to 14. But the usual number is 5 or 6, as you can see by going through Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/June. The first guideline here says: "Generally 5 events (always in the past tense) can be displayed each day. This number may vary slightly ...". So do you know something I don't know? Art LaPella (talk) 02:24, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Mussolini's Mare Nostrum

Hello Mj
Your comment at this AfD has raised an issue which I find has wider implications. There is a discussion here; could you comment at all? Xyl 54 (talk) 12:13, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM PERSONAL ATTACKS

I am not sure where your anger and hate comes from, but "accusing" me of being "Iranian" and then reintroducing your propaganda into that bogus "Midair Collision" article which you have created is totally uncalled for. How did you become an editor here? I strongly suggest you do something about your personal hatred. I am sure there are numerous rules against what you did here and I will find out what they are and exercise them if you don't cool downXonus (talk) 20:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Steady on. Mjroots's sentence was "I may be wrong, but I get the impression that you are Iranian" - note the first four words in particular, but also the five immediately following. Mj is one of the most cool-headed neutral editors that I know of, and does not express "anger" or "hatred" to anyone. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:21, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Just to let you know, Xonus has started a thread at ANI. —DoRD (talk) 21:08, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I was just going to suggest that course of action to Xonus myself! Mjroots (talk) 21:15, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Take strength MJ Victuallers (talk) 21:43, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Cheers! Mjroots (talk) 21:44, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit problem

Hi, your edit here has caused some problems on the talk pages of a number of kent project articles that were using {{WP:Kent}} as an alias for the {{WikiProject Kent}} article banner template. Your change means that these articles are now transcluding the WikiProject Kent Page rather than the banner. You can see the problem at Talk:Alkham Valley. The pages affected are listed here.--DavidCane (talk) 22:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC)>

Thank you kindly

	Thank you for your support
	Thank you very much for your support on my RfA. I shall endeavor to meet your and the community's expectations as an admin. Qwyrxian (talk) 07:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

A beer for you

Thankyou for participating in my request for adminship, also for the T-shirt. Now I've got lots of extra buttons to try and avoid pressing by mistake... Redrose64 (talk) 15:15, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Draft RFC/U

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Ely reflist

I accept that two-columns may "look better in your opinion" but frankly I disagree for two reasons:

• Firstly, your {{reflist|2}} is a fixed two-column list, independent of any mobile device or monitor settings whereas what you replaced ({{reflist|colwidth=30em}}) gives as many columns as will fit on the readers monitor device and
• Secondly, I am trying to remain consistent within the area and (e.g.) the FA article Little Thetford also uses {{reflist|colwidth=30em}}

I would appreciate it if you would reconsider your change --Senra (Talk) 17:10, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for adding the ship template to Rakaia (disambiguation) (I thought it wouldn't take long before somebody fixed it up; couldn't remember where to find that template), but I thought that each line should have one blue link: WP:DABSTYLE. Is there something that I have overlooked? (have watchlisted your page, so you can reply here without the need for talkback) Schwede66 02:35, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

You are correct, one bluelink per entry. The dab page is fine as it is now. Mjroots (talk) 06:19, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I was asking because MV Rakaia is a redirect to MV Empire Abercorn. Is a redirect regarded as a blue link? Schwede66 07:10, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Mjroots (talk) 07:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

If you can click it, and get thereby to a page other than the one you're clicking from (but still within Wikipedia), and you don't get the message about creating an article, it's a bluelink. Depending upon whether or not you've visited the page before, or certain aspects of your setup, so-called "blue links" may appear blue, indigo, violet or green - but not red (except in some user signatures, like mine, where the red text is, technically, a blue link). --Redrose64 (talk) 15:25, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you to both of you. Schwede66 07:27, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

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Ah, look like I made a booboo on the MV Glücksburg page, and linked from the wrong ship. As I'm busy with a copyedit atm, would you mind sorting out the mess, otherwise I'll do it when I finish in about an hour or so. Mjroots (talk) 06:25, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

No worries! I'm just about to head off though, so we'l see who gets back first. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:31, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Should I just delete the wrong one? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:16, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking of moving it to the correct title without a redirect. Mjroots (talk) 07:17, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, I already created a redirect on the correct title, but you can nuke it in the process of moving yours, s'cool. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:32, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Nuked incorrect title. Mjroots (talk) 07:37, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

All done. (And sorry that the thought of simply moving the original redirect never occured to me!) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:40, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

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Welcome on board! Having just watched TinTin animated movie this week - trust your shipwrecks are not as volatile or animated as the TinTin version... SatuSuro 11:54, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

I still after all this time feel that the presence of the ships tag on specific shipwreck categories to be somewhat overdoing ships over-bloated presence on wikipedia - but hey for the moment I am trying to catch up with some category tagging for the shipwreck cause (and also I noted the 0ver-500 shipwreck articles not assessed...[5] hmmm ... have a safe new year! SatuSuro 12:02, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

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My apologies. I didn't realize you had found the ships in question via Plimsoll. However, instead of bringing the builder into the mix, it would be far simpler to just give the trawler an ST (steam trawler) prefix. Manxruler (talk) 07:09, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem at all. I've seen the ST prefix used for many different types of vessels; steam trawlers, steam tugs, steam tankers. The article on ship prefixes says steam tug, but is that article (which is lacking in citations) the authority in this regard? I suppose there should be some sort of set of regulations somewhere. Manxruler (talk) 07:25, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

I see that the one source I could find with regards to civilian vessels in the ship prefix article does not mention steam tugs at all, so that prefix has probably been added without the support of a source. Manxruler (talk) 07:34, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes. I believe that's due to the ship prefix article. Not that that is a problem at all. I think ST can stand for several different things. Steam trawler is an established term too, and I think it should be possible to use the prefix for that too, as well as for for steam tanker etc. A quick google shows that steam trawler is one of the possible uses. Manxruler (talk) 07:50, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: SS Lotus

Please, before undoing my edits by saying that the source says otherwise, reread the source. The source for Lotos clearly said September 1940, not 1939. I'm aware of the fact that I said the ship went down in November 1940 in my edit summary, but still, please check the facts before undoing. Manxruler (talk) 16:12, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

It's okay. Just be more careful next time around. Also, I'm fully aware of WP:V (have been here long enough to grasp the basic concepts), so there's no need to remind me of that. Manxruler (talk) 16:24, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

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Try {{WikibreakSwitch|NOINTERNET}}, or {{No-Internet}} which does the same job. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:18, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Ah, that's the one! Anyhow, am online for next 3 days at least. Hopefully the problem will be sorted soon afterwards. Mjroots (talk) 10:48, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

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I can't beat Jane Austen, but I do claim (without proof) that Samuel Youd is a distant relation on my maternal grandfather's side. I was at school with the only son of Julian Barbour. Does that count? --Redrose64 (talk) 20:17, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Nope, they don't count. Mine are proven . I'm hoping that one day a link will be proven to Joseph Carey Merrick, but until it is, he won't be added to the list. Mjroots (talk) 05:05, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Mjroots. Thank you for you welcome message! I have stronger habits on the French Wikipedia. (more details here ). I would probably have to fix my global account later. I keep your contacts for further discussions, like translation of quality articles. Greetings to the nice Kent County. Take care.--Xavier Sylvestre (talk) 11:23, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

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fix the broken brackets

I'm getting sick and tired of fixing your bracket mistakes, especially on the wikilinks. Every time I see a "shipwreck" article pop up I cringe. Bracketbot is telling you where the mistakes are, trying fixing them. Bgwhite (talk) 07:53, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing it. Can you add my marriage to the list of shipwrecks? :)

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In your revert, you (erroneously) claim that the bolded title is in accordance with the MOS. But on the article talk page, you dropped that line and just spoke of "established practice". So which is it? The MOS is in fact quite clearcut on this. There isn't a formal or widely accepted name for the article subject, so following the MOS, the title shouldn't be bolded. Quite simple and straightforward. Please don't restore MOS-violating revisions without a valid rationale. --89.0.231.57 (talk) 22:25, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

• Please see my response here. --89.0.254.14 (talk) 17:33, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

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You were wondering at one time as to how to convert km into both miles and chains. Well here it is: {{convert|10|km|mi chain}} 10 kilometres (6.2 mi; 500 chains), or even {{convert|10|km|mi chain|1|abbr=on}} 10 km (6.2 mi; 497.1 chains). Peter Horn User talk 00:27, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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Oh yes it can do the reverse, see my latest post at User talk:Peter Horn#Thanks. Peter Horn User talk 21:08, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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I removed the bracketbot setting from your talk page. Every time you edit a shipwrick article, I have to come by and fix up your mess. Today's mess included 7 broken wikilink brackets and who knows what else. Normally I wouldn't care if somebody turned off bracketbot, but when someone makes more work for others, it is a different story.

I decided to opt out of Bracketbot, as is my right. I suggested a way the bot could be improved but was ignored. IMHO, the bot would be better employed fixing the problem itself, rather than notifying editors and leaving it for them to fix.

As it says at the top of my talk page, I am unwell, and these errors are partly due to my medical problems, which I am not prepared to discuss. If you are that fed up with fixing my errors, then I suggest that you leave the lists alone. I do make checks as each list gets completed from the sources I'm using, and fix other errors as and when I spot them. Mjroots (talk) 06:02, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Fine. Instead of spending my time trying to clean up your mess, I will just revert you. If you can't spend the time to click "preview" and actually look for errors, you shouldn't be editing. If you are going to use a medical condition as an excuse for your horrendous work, then don't work at all. A couple weeks ago, I cleaned up 40 broken wikilink brackets in one article. No bot can fix most broken brackets, which is why the bot tells the person who screwed up to fix their problem. Bgwhite (talk) 06:18, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Researching these lists of shipwrecks takes many hours. You obviously think that broken brackets are a bigger problem than I do. In answer to your suggestion, I'm not going to stop editing. I like working on Wikipedia, and the intention always is to improve the encyclopedia, not to make it worse. OK, it might take me a while to bash an article in shape, but I get there in the end. When I do the 1824 list, how about you leave me to get on with it, and we'll see what kind of shape it is in when I finish? Mjroots (talk) 20:28, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

How about you turn bracketbot on before you last edit of the day, so it can find your mistakes. This saves you time as you time as you don't have to hunt for the problems. I won't have to bother you again. Sorry, this is not the only time I've mentioned this to you and your rate of mistakes only increased. Bgwhite (talk) 07:54, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

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Please add ref name=AJ030105 see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_shipwrecks_in_1804&diff=prev&oldid=551588070

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Specifically they are not need for - date publications (eg books, yearly reports, correspondences with dates in the text), archived websites (the archivedate is required instead), dated news reports (unreliable news sources may be an exception, but reliable sources eg REUTERS, BBC etc always note when the text has been updated).

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I have only removed the examples where the information is superfluous.Prof.Haddock (talk) 14:35, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

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G'day, I don't understand why you are consolidating what can't be consolidated; there is one ASN ref for the 2010 crash, one from Colombia Reports which states that the five POB were killed, and the ASN ref for the 2014 crash, which gives the registration and msn which demonstrate that the same a/c was in both crashes, and the name of the new operator. YSSYguy (talk) 07:15, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, re this edit: their books don't have page numbers, it is true; but they do have figure numbers. In some books they use Arabic numerals for the photos and Roman numerals for the maps; in others, they're all in Arabic numerals. The |loc= parameter of {{sfn}} is useful for cases where you don't want a "p." or "pp." to show. So you can use something like {{sfn|Mitchell|Smith|1986|loc=fig. 123}} or {{sfn|Mitchell|Smith|1986|loc=map XII}} as appropriate. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:27, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Taking the title page ass p1, it could be described as p4 I suppose. What do you think? Mjroots (talk) 20:36, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Devising your own page numbers doesn't really satisfy WP:V. There is precedent for using |loc=fig. 123 etc. in several articles put together by Lamberhurst (talk · contribs) - as well as a few by myself. The Middleton Press Index to Stations and Locations has a column headed "Page No." but since the books always have either 80 or 96 pages, and these numbers are often greater than 100, they are clearly the figure numbers. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:03, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

In which case we stick with "not numbered, as the info is to be found before Fig.1. Mjroots (talk) 21:15, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Other identifiers are available. M&S books often have two or three headings in the introductory text: |loc=Geographical setting, |loc=Historical background, |loc=Passenger services etc. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:50, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for your gracious self-closure at ITN, one rarely sees that. I too "miss" the orange bar of death, haha. μηδείς (talk) 20:26, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

@Medeis: - It's OK, Getting an ITN is nice, but it's no big deal. One advantage of proposing on ITN is that it gets more eyes on an article, which leads to article improvement, whether or not it gets posted. Mjroots (talk) 20:28, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

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	For creating 1000 articles on English Wikipedia. Given the quality of your entries, that's an achievement! Here's to the next 1000! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 05:01, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

What Blowers isn't saying is that he's still a looooong way ahead. Never mind, I'm much further back - 125 articles (excl. redirs but incl. dabs). --Redrose64 (talk) 11:09, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

@Redrose64: Quality over quantity here. The 1,000 is articles, not counting lists, redirects, dabs etc. Still, was a nice birthday prezzy from Wikipedia this morning for my 1,000^th article to be on the main page. Mjroots (talk) 17:32, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

A bit of a twattish response.. I have created at least something of worth ;-) Most of my inflated figure though are indeed short stubs created in the 2006-9 period though!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:49, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: - I'm not saying that your stubs aren't useful. In many cases they've been expanded into articles of quality. I prefer to create reasonable articles from the outset, although I do occasionally create stubs if I feel that the subject is important enough to justify a stub in the hope that other editors have the resources to expand it. Mjroots (talk) 15:28, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

"I prefer to create reasonable articles from the outset". It depends what you define as "reasonable". Reasonable to me is a few sourced facts, bare minimum. Reasonable to you is probably minimum start class or higher!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:21, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

C class! Mjroots (talk) 16:33, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

It's grim up North London. But very well done, "Mj". Martinevans123 (talk) 15:39, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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@SuperCarnivore591: If there's anyone edit warring, it is you. Removal of content that fails core policies such as WP:V and WP:RS is not, by any stretch, edit warring. Nor is the removal of names from the article when there was already a consensus, backed by policy that they were not to be included. If you want to take this further, the WP:ANI is thataway, but you'll need to be aware of the WP:BOOMERANG effect. Mjroots (talk) 17:14, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Pinging SuperCarnivore591 as I messed up the first ping. Mjroots (talk) 17:15, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

No consensus yet, discussion is ongoing. You're being trigger-happy. SuperCarnivore591 (talk) 17:16, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

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Is there a reason why you think it is acceptable to not only move an article, but then protect it? That's called being WP:INVOLVED. Please revert your changes at once, and attain consensus for such a change in an RM. Otherwise, I will be forced to take action against you. RGloucester — ☎ 16:19, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

An admin, that's who. Issue is being discussed at WT:UKT#FGW to GWR. Mjroots (talk) 16:42, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

You are no administrator. If you've edited an article as a regular editor, you cannot use your administrative tools. Revert your changes, or see yourself sanctioned. RGloucester — ☎ 16:53, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

@RGloucester: I am. I haven't. I won't and I won't. WP:ANI is thattaway!. Mjroots (talk) 16:58, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Unrepentant? Again, I ask, who do you think you are? Your action here is outrageous, and will be dealt with as appropriate. RGloucester — ☎ 16:59, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

The action that is needed is to discuss the issue at the venue where it had been raised. There was already consensus for the move to be made when it was appropriate to do so. Just because no RM was filed doesn't make the move invalid. Many more moves are done without RMs being filed than with them. Mjroots (talk) 17:04, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Your venue is incorrect. WikiProjects have no domain over page moves. Your cabal-like attempts to circumvent policy and process, to use administrative tools whilst involved, these will be dealt with. An RM must be held, and policy must be followed. This move was controversial, and should not've been made without an RM. You should not've protected an article you were involved with. RGloucester — ☎ 17:06, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

There is absolutely no need for a RM. The issue has been fully discussed and consensus previously established for the move to be made when it was appropriate to do so (i.e. today). You really ought to do your research before coming here with demands that page moves are made against consensus; and that protection put in place to prevent such moves against such consensus is removed. It's not going to happen. For the record, moving an article and then move protecting it (the sum total of my edits on the article in question) does not make me in any way WP:INVOLVED in editing the article as a "regular editor". The move was decided, other issues related to the company's change of name are being discussed. This discussion here is now CLOSED. Mjroots (talk) 17:18, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

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Didn't see the editing template. It's not normally used on articles such as this that are linked from ITN suggestions. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 09:33, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

@Espresso Addict: I just wanted 10 mins to bash a bit of shape into the article. Mjroots (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Might have been best to hold off the nomination for ITN-C, as you'll automatically get every awake ITN editor tramping all over it! I'll leave it alone for now, anyway. Espresso Addict (talk) 09:37, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

I thought the same too, should have bashed it into shape first then nominated. Oh well, live and learn. Mjroots (talk) 09:40, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

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Sorry to hear that you're experiencing health issues. Hope you get well soon. Whitetiger401 (talk) 15:39, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

@Whitetiger 401: - it's a long-term thing. Sometimes prevents me from editing as much as I would like to, but I try not to let it beat me for too long. Mjroots (talk) 15:46, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Have you ever been to a Wikipedia meetup? There's one in London this Sunday, I'll be there. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:29, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

@Redrose64: - Not been to one. Can't make that one in any case. Mjroots (talk) 06:01, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, not sure if you realise the redirect has stopped working. (I noticed because it appeared on ShortPages.) It looks as if the redirect directive has to be at the very start of the page - and therefore, adding {{pp-full|small=yes}} above it has broken it. — Smjg (talk) 16:47, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

@Smjg: thanks for that, now fixed. Mjroots (talk) 16:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

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I undid your nomination as the "Pioneer Cabin Tree" is already nominated and being discussed here. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:46, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

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Another year

What an intrepid shipwreck editor!! May you deserve some amazing reward for having stuck it out for so long now - have a good new year!!! JarrahTree 10:41, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

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b./d.

Hey, nice to see those entries being added, but a quick query, shouldn't there be a space between the b./d. and the year? The Rambling Man (talk) 07:27, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: - I'm not sure. It looks fine to me as is. Mjroots (talk) 07:30, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

I know it may look fine to you, but I'm convinced it needs a non-breaking space, just as we'd have for when we use, say, c. 2017 for circa. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:32, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: - I've opened as discussion at WP:MPE. Mjroots (talk) 07:40, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

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Isn't "merge" the outcome? I find the word "merge" there 20 times, whereas "keep" is there just 7 times. Or is it now down to someone else to implement the clear consensus to merge? The Rambling Man (talk) 15:31, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: - Of the "merge" !votes, only three are straight merges, the others are keep/merge, delete/merge or redirect/merge. IMHO, the discussion has run for long enough to form a consensus, and I don't see a strong consensus to delete, keep or merge. It's pretty much evenly spread so the result is that the article is not deleted. Now, should an editor take it upon themselves to be bold and merge the article, that is fine; but should the merge be challenged, then the article must be kept and a fresh discussion held. I've no strong feelings on any of the options. Mjroots (talk) 16:00, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I think the strength of both delete or merge by far outweighs a keep, counting the groups individually to arrive at no consensus seems most odd, but there you go, who am I to argue. Other things to worry about. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:01, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

The article has been "boldly merged". I and others will oppose it. Shopping for a result again and again should not be rewarded by going against several discussions.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:43, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

It would be helpful if you actually read the discussion and kept your comments in one place. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:44, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the move-protection at United Express Flight 3411 incident. Sagecandor (talk) 16:25, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

@Sagecandor: no problem, it's harder to keep track of articles when they are moved all over the place. Current title is sensible and has consensus. Mjroots (talk) 16:29, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Yeah and it seems pretty neutral. Sagecandor (talk) 16:30, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

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John Noakes

According to sources he died yesterday on the 28th, and there's already a section below. Aiken D 10:19, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

@Aiken drum: - Oops! Didn't spot that. Sort out the referencing and I'll be happy to support. Mjroots (talk) 10:33, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Grenfell Tower fire

I find the fact the you just notified yourself of your own ITN to be highly amusing. Thanks for putting a smile on my face. :) Sario528 (talk) 13:15, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

@Sario528: If you want a job done properly... Mjroots (talk) 13:16, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Do never inline REFs!

In Grenfell Tower fire you degraded the proper REF in the references section to an inline REF. This mass of inline REFs makes editing of the article a PITA. It is practically impossible to do the way you worsened the situation. Don't do that ever again! --L.Willms (talk) 15:45, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

@L.Willms: - if it was you who added that style of referencing to an already established system, then it is you that needs to never do that again. I merely made that ref conform with the existing system, which has been in use since the very beginning of the article. It's not a PITA, give the ref a name (I tend to use the name of the source and its indiviual reference number) and re-use that name whenever quoting from that ref. Mjroots (talk) 16:06, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes, changing from established style (inline refs) to another style (WP:LDR) is against WP:CITEVAR. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:41, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

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Well, it's on the wrong talk page as you merely copy pasted trying to help the creator out. I'd already deleted the content form a previous iteration. Cheers, Dlohcierekim (talk) 06:16, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Amtrak

I'm not going to make a big deal out of it, but I consider Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Amtrak borderline canvassing. It's less than neutral to say that you "reverted a major change", when it was to material that you yourself introduced less than a month ago. Mackensen (talk) 17:59, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

@Mackensen: - I'm sorry that you see it that way, as it was not my intention. I was merely stating the situation. You made a major change, I reverted it for reasons given. Will address your comments at the talk page. Mjroots (talk) 18:08, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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I should have come here first. You might as well suggest Arbcom investigate me. And everyone who appears on the page. Just in case, you know. Maybe we'll be cleared of wrongdoing! I think you grievously misunderstand the amount of scrutiny TRM is under, constantly. Here's the most recent example, which the instigating admin had the balls to apologise for. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 13:37, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@Dweller: - As a named party in the case, wouldn't ARBCOM be likely to look at TRM's conduct anyway? I probably did misunderstand the amount of scrutiny TRM is under, but he is not the easiest of editors to work with, is he? Mjroots (talk) 13:46, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

No, but one of the best.... The Rambling Man (talk) 13:47, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

LOL! Not arguing with that. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 13:52, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

<-If it's true that they'd be "likely to look at TRM's conduct anyway", what's the point of a statement asking them to do so? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 13:52, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Just to make sure the death warrant is ready for signature... The Rambling Man (talk) 13:54, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@Dweller: The Rambling Man - it was a reminder not to take everything just at face value, but to thoroughly investigate the complaint put forward. Mjroots (talk) 14:04, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Yup, sadly that's not where it ends. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:05, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

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@Art LaPella: - I didn't realise that. Thanks for the fix. Mjroots (talk) 14:40, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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That confirms it, a WP:SOCK of Modern Fire. Mjroots (talk) 16:48, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

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Tried that, although it balanced the columns out, it had the side effect of making the whole of the page below that section into two columns also. {{clear}} failed to fix that issue. Can the colwidths be adjusted by expressing as percentages? Seems to me that the left col needs to be a little wider than it is currently. Mjroots (talk) 07:19, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

The problem was that you omitted the {{div col end}}: this template tells your browser where to stop using columns, without that it will carry on columnising to the end of the doc. Try putting a {{div col end}} in the same place that you tried the {{clear}}.

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This seems to have worked. Of course, my user page is set up to display how I want it to look on my laptop. I'm not overly bothered if it doesn't display the same for other users on their device. Mjroots (talk) 12:51, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

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This was the most bizarre claimed justification for a revert that I've ever seen. So much so that I think I have to ask you about it. It seems that you are an administrator, and your first edit was almost 14 years ago. So why would you say that a link would need to be in bold face to make it obvious that it was a link? 80.189.156.156 (talk) 18:50, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@80.189.156.156: thank you for getting in touch. I didn't re-revert you becasue I don't think it is so important that it is worth getting into a dispute over. Of course, other editors may agree with me and revert you, in which case you'll need to raise the issue on the lists talk page. Take a look at the List of rail accidents (2010-present), where you will see a similar system in operation. Mjroots (talk) 18:58, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

See the WP:MOS and virtually every other article on Wikipedia. Bold face should never be used in that way. This is not something that needs rehashing on any article talk page. If you disagree with the MOS specifications on when bold face is used, you will need to seek consensus to change it. 80.189.156.156 (talk) 00:01, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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remove my comments from article talk again. Kevin McE (talk) 18:01, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

@Kevin McE: - are you referring to talk:The Independent Group? If so, I copied the entire page into talk:Independent Group (United Kingdom) as when the page was moved, for some reason the talk page didn't get moved. Thus your comments have not been removed.

It it is something else, then that would have been accidental and I offer my apologies. Mjroots (talk) 18:07, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

You did, because what I posted at 17:16 was not included in what you copied over to the other page at 17:28, but your willingness to apologise is appreciated. Kevin McE (talk) 18:48, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

@Kevin McE: I see the article has been moved back, but again the talk page wasn't moved. I've now move-protected the article. Mjroots (talk) 18:16, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

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I had one that you queried something, and for the time I have spent trying to find the item, I simply have given up, no sign of the point where you query something, trust all is well... JarrahTree 00:16, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: - when did you get the notification? All is as well as it can be. Mjroots (talk) 06:48, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

looks like it was generated at the point of page re-adjustment at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mjroots&oldid=943407928 - no big deal, just the quirks of life and all that... JarrahTree 07:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Ah, right. No worries. Mjroots (talk) 07:18, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Five years!

Best wishes for your health! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

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Mitchell & Smith

FYI, noticed that you have a pretty common copy/paste error in new articles on disused UK stations: the Mitchell & Smith citation is missing the year. I fixed Blean and Tyler Hill Halt railway station, but there are others (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Broken short references in train-related articles for context). Best, Mackensen (talk) 17:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

@Mackensen: - I've fixed the other C&W stations. Any others that I've missed? Mjroots (talk) 02:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

I'll have to check; I'm going off this list. Thanks for the quick response! Mackensen (talk) 14:50, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

@Mackensen: There's a few more there that are mine. I've cleared the error on Chemin de fer de Boulogne à Bonningues. Can't see anything obvious on Chemin de Fer d'Anvin à Calais, or SR class 3Sub, which I wrote, or South Eastern Main Line, which I expanded. Mjroots (talk) 18:23, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

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List of British disasters

You removed my two entries on the list of British disasters by death toll page, with the justification that they did not occur in Britain. Using that logic, dozens of disasters on that list should be removed, since many of the existing entries occurred outside Britain. The crash of Dan-Air Flight 1008 in 1980, for example, took place in Tenerife, The Canary Islands. The list does not need to only include disasters that took place in Britain or Ireland - it states quite clearly in the intro that it could also include relevant disasters that involved it’s ‘citizens’. I suggest you read the page more closely. AmSam13 (talk) 10:31, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

@AmSam13: - I think that the scope of the list may needs some clarification. If you have not done so already, I'd caution you against re-adding the entries as you are heading into edit war territory. Give me fifteen minutes or so and I'll post my thoughts on the talk page of the list. Mjroots (talk) 10:36, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

So are you saying that we should remove all those shipwrecks, air crashes etc. that are already present on the list because these events do not "relate to the United Kingdom or Ireland, or to the states that preceded them, or that involved their citizens, in a definable incident or accident such as a shipwreck"? AmSam13 (talk) 10:48, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

@AmSam13: - See Talk:List of disasters in Great Britain and Ireland by death toll#Scope of the list. Mjroots (talk) 10:59, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

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Date error

Here you added the date "210 December 1866". Usually I try to fix typos like these, but I don't know how to verify the correct date. Could you check and correct this? Thanks. kennethaw88 • talk 20:13, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

@Kennethaw88: Thanks for the heads-up. It is 21 December (fixed). Mjroots (talk) 20:18, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

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Northumberland

Hello! I hope you are well. I have taken Northumberland out of some shipwreck pages mentioning Newcastle. Am I going nuts? it's possible. Please advise. Cheers (unaggressively) DBaK (talk) 12:08, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

@DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: N-o-T was part of the historical ceremonial county of Northumberland, as well as being a city and county of itself. Similar situations existed with Norwich and Bristol amongst others. Mjroots (talk) 12:16, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't want to get into a whole can of worms here but I am assuming that we are not saying "Bristol, Gloucestershire" and the like? I haven't checked: do we? Are you saying that N-o-T, Northd, is indeed correct for those listings?? (NB NB curious/confused/worried, not lacing up boxing gloves!) Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:20, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

B,G - just checked, oops I see that we do - I am shutting up now. Please revert me re this if you like (but not the Newton please!) DBaK (talk) 12:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Middlesb(o)rough spelling

Hello again. One of my more annoying obsessions is the spelling of Middlesbrough. They would have done us all a big favour if they had stabilized in on Middlesborough, like the one in Kentucky, but very annoyingly they did not. However, in 1867 it probably wasn't in any final form, so where there's a vessel here called Middlesborough helping out with the brig Sultana, that could quite easily be the correct spelling per the source. Assuming that you have superduper access to these sources could you please very kindly confirm that she really was called that? If you can then I will make a note to myself and no longer waste your, my, or the universe's time on this. And if you can't, or it's too much trouble, then I will apologize for bothering you with my annoying trivia, and I will shut up anyway! Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:17, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

I generally keep historical spellings (Dantzic, Monte Video etc) so it it says the ship was named "Middlesborough", then that is what the source says. Mjroots (talk) 12:21, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Ah fine. Then I will officially stfu and leave it. Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:24, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

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Hi Mjroots, we have Barossa being lost at an unknown date in December 1817 and January 1818. I will remove the January event. Acad Ronin (talk) 01:14, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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A heads-up

Back in 2010 you added an entry for Eldora (ship) to the disambiguation page Eldora. I noticed it yesterday, when I added another entry for another ship.

Like yours, the ship I added has no standalone article. But the link is used in another article, Boats of the Mackenzie River watershed.

The general rule for disambiguation pages is they should only have one link per entry. About half a dozen years ago the standard evolved... when a disambiguation page entry had a red link there should also be a blue link, to one of the article pages where the red link was used.

Another change - initially disambiguation page entries for ships had no italics, and no piped links. More recently the standard evolved to the form you see for the entry I put, which uses a piped link, but only so the entry puts the ship name in italics.

When I added my entry I noticed your entry for Eldora (ship) used a piped link, improperly. It does not match the no piped links rule. So I fixed it. Once I clicked save I saw that left a redlink with no matching bluelink.

That does not match the current standard.

I was going to ask you to fix it. But, upon checking further, I saw you edited Placilla (ship), around the time you edited Eldora, so I brought the entry up to standard myself, making this a courtesy heads-up. Geo Swan (talk) 12:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

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February 2021

This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at User:FlowerPetals, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Please keep comments to my talk page. Thank you. FlowerPetals📪 21:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@FlowerPetals: So I accidentally posted on your user page instead of your talk page three months ago, for which I apologise. Bit of an overreaction isn't it? Mjroots (talk) 06:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Six years!

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Thank you

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TPO at Tea house

In this edit, you removed a portion of my earlier comment, which was Lorem text floating around images I had added on behalf of another user who had asked a question about images. This is a WP:TPO violation; please do not edit other users' comments (not even to "correct others' spelling errors, grammar, etc.") except for the few exceptions listed there, such as trolling, vandalism, and so on. At the very least, raise a question on the OP's talk page and talk it out there first, to see if there's something you missed. Altering another user's comments on your own without discussion is both rude, and against guidelines; please don't do it. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 17:14, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

@Mathglot: - I removed the text because it was adding nothing to the discussion, and was confusing. It might have been better to put those images in a gallery. IMvHO, this was a rare excption to TPO, but I should have at least let you know what I had done. I apologise for not doing so. Mjroots (talk) 17:20, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't believe it was an exception, because if one looks at what the OP was trying to accomplish (fuse banknotes obverse and reverse vertically), one would realized that a gallery is likely impossible in that case, or at least according to the OP's statement of the issue it was). In any case, I'll chalk it up to your being busy and in a hurry, and I appreciate the quick response and the apology; we're good. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 17:31, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

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Gallipoli

Hi Mjroots, I noticed that "Gallipoli" shows up quite frequently as the site of wrecks, and we describe it as being located in the Ottoman Empire. I believe that in almost all of the cases we are allocating to the site of the WWI campaign with events that occurred at Gallipoli, Apulia a port in Italy. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 23:44, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

@Acad Ronin: Ships travelling between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea would not be wrecked in Italy though, would they? Mjroots (talk) 05:49, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Agree vessels sailing to the Black Sea or Constantinople. But prior to WWI, and after, the Ottoman Gallipoly was just a stretch of beach/coastline. The Italian port is a long-established port and a destination in itself. It would also be a logical stopping point on voyages in the Med. I would suggest that for the first half of the 19th century, we should default all mentions of Gallipoli to the Italian site, unless there is evidence the vessel was actually going to the Black Sea or Constantinople. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 12:53, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

@Acad Ronin: My preference would be to just state "Gallipoli" and leave the country undefined in not obvious that the Italian port is meant from the newspaper report. Mjroots (talk) 15:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Makes sense. I have just put up an article Trelandvean, where I have used the Italian Gallipoli as Lloyd's List's SAD data made clear that she was on a voyage visiting Italian ports when she was wrecked. I will generally follow your lead and leave Gallipoli unspecified unless I have a good feeling for which one is more likely.Acad Ronin (talk) 15:23, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

If it's WWI events in 1915 or later, I'm pretty certain that it would be the Gallipoli campaign, therefore Ottoman Turkey and not Italy at all. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

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Texas Raiders

I reverted your addition of several categories to Texas Raiders as they pertained to the crash. The article covers the aircraft, while 2022 Dallas airshow mid-air collision covers the actual event. - ZLEA _T\^C 15:31, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

@ZLEA: Yes, I noted that. Maybe we can discuss at article talk. Input from WPs:AV and MILHIST should be sought. Mjroots (talk) 15:33, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

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Evening, just a quick heads up the Channel Islands Geograph link on your user page doesn't work for me. Looks like it might have changed since you posted it and is now at geograph.org.gg? All the best - Dumelow (talk) 21:11, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Dumelow. I've updated the link. Mjroots (talk) 05:15, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

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@DuncanHill: Well spotted!  Done Mjroots (talk) 09:10, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

I have Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors watchlisted, so see them whenever I check my watchlist. I fix those I can (often no-target errors are typos, or obvious copying of text from other articles). Thanks for your quick response. DuncanHill (talk) 09:15, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

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"Type" in List of ship launches..

I couldn't work out the links to the dab page type which occurs in the "class" column of List of ship launches in 1839, List of ship launches in 1838 & List of ship launches in 1839. I presume it is not intentional, maybe just not known?— Rod ^talk 16:44, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

@Rodw: I fixed the 1838 and 1839 entries. "Type" was not intentional. Talking of which, is the second 1839 list meant to be something else? Mjroots (talk) 17:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Sorry - that should be 1836.— Rod ^talk 17:08, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

 Done Mjroots (talk) 17:15, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Great thanks.— Rod ^talk 17:39, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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