Template talk:Did you know/Approved
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[edit]How to promote an accepted hook
[edit]- See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
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[edit]- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
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- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
Nominations
[edit]Special occasion holding area
[edit]- Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section on the regular nominations page, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began, or it was listed as a Good Article; be sure to indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
- Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made between at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: [1]; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: [2].
- April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
- Note for promoters: please be sure to add an "invisible" comment after a hook when you've placed it in prep, noting that it's a special occasion hook and including the date it is supposed to run. This should keep the hook from being moved after promotion, as sometimes happens to hooks when a queue needs a slot filled or a prep set needs to be made more balanced by swapping hooks between preps.
November 27 (birthday)
[edit]Rei Nakashima
- ... that anime singer Rei Nakashima was named after Ray Charles? Source: [3] ("“怜”という名前も、レイ・チャールズ好きな母がつけたもので。")
- ALT1: ... that Rei Nakashima thought she had failed her music audition, only to discover that she had won over a thousand other applicants? Source: 1. Same as above, ("私、落ちると思っていたんです(苦笑)。オリジナル曲のギター弾き語りの時には緊張しすぎてストロークがガタガタに……その次に「愛・おぼえていますか」(映画『超時空要塞マクロス 愛・おぼえていますか』主題歌)を歌ったときは、緊張が一気に消えて、極度のリラックス状態になって、歌詞を噛んでしまったんですね。そこで思わず笑ってしまって。サビ前になんとか挽回したのですが、「絶対に落ちたな」と。だからびっくりしすぎて「合格ってもしかして別の意味があるのかも……?」と調べたくらいで。")
2. [4] (1,000通を超える応募者の中からグランプリには愛知県出身の中島 怜(なかしまれい)さん、特別賞には埼玉県出身の大渕野々花(おおぶちののか)さんが選ばれました。) - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jurong East MRT station
- Comment: I would like to request that this run on November 27th, which is her 20th birthday.
- ALT1: ... that Rei Nakashima thought she had failed her music audition, only to discover that she had won over a thousand other applicants? Source: 1. Same as above, ("私、落ちると思っていたんです(苦笑)。オリジナル曲のギター弾き語りの時には緊張しすぎてストロークがガタガタに……その次に「愛・おぼえていますか」(映画『超時空要塞マクロス 愛・おぼえていますか』主題歌)を歌ったときは、緊張が一気に消えて、極度のリラックス状態になって、歌詞を噛んでしまったんですね。そこで思わず笑ってしまって。サビ前になんとか挽回したのですが、「絶対に落ちたな」と。だからびっくりしすぎて「合格ってもしかして別の意味があるのかも……?」と調べたくらいで。")
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:32, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Reviewing this per request at WT:DYK. Minor quibble - the source says over 1,000 applicants, whereas our article uses a thousand as a fixed number. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Article is new enough, long enough, and neutral. AGF on foreign-language sources for paraphrasing. No image to review. Preference is for ALT0/original, though both are supported. I agree that holding it for her birthday makes sense. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:53, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Thanks for the review! I guess this can be moved now? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe so? This is my first special occasion hook since coming back, so I don't know what current practice is. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hooks approved for special occasions go into the holding area at WP:DYKNA. Maybe Z1720 knows how to explain it better. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah. I didn't remember that being the reviewer. Will do. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hooks approved for special occasions go into the holding area at WP:DYKNA. Maybe Z1720 knows how to explain it better. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Thanks for the review! I guess this can be moved now? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Approved nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on September 16
[edit]Krwawy chleb
- ... that the 1909 Polish novel Bloody Bread about the struggles of Polish immigrants in the US was in the 1950s briefly criticized by the Polish communist censors for "glorifying the United States"? Source: http://wrh.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/299_PDFsam_WRH-t.-XII-2015.pdf, page 307. Quote in Polish: "gloryfikująca Stany Zjednoczone"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KAUT-TV (added from below September 29)
- Comment:
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
- I will be closing this in 24 hours if I don't see a valid QPQ before then @Piotrus:.--Launchballer 14:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Which policy allows such a speedy closure? I was under the impression QPQ can be done several days or even weeks later, while the nom is on hold. For now, have one here: Template:Did you know nominations/KAUT-TV . I will try to do QPQs for others later this week. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:17, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
WP:QPQ: A nomination which doesn't include a QPQ (and is not from an exempt nominator) may be closed as "incomplete" without warning.--Launchballer 00:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Per a recent rule change as a result of this discussion, the old rule where QPQs must be provided within a week of the nomination has been phased out. Instead, QPQs should be provided at the time of the nomination, and any nomination that does not immediately provide a QPQ is liable for closure. Doing the QPQs "later this week" is no longer sufficient: they have to be given at the time of the nomination, and you must provide them as soon as possible if you do not want your nominations to be closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the heads up. I am not very happy with this change. I've always done my QPQs on time, with submission (and I've done hundreds of them), but just recently someone translated a bunch of my articles form pl wiki without heads up, and I am trying to rescue some of them for DYKs within the time period - and I am a bit busy IRL so for the first time I delayed QPQ. And then this happens. Sigh. You know you can trust me do to my QPQs, no? It's not like I will drop noms here and run. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer already gave an ultimatum for your open nominations: provide a QPQ within 24 hours of the messages, or they will be closed. If you do not think it will be feasible to complete them all in time then it may be better to just let them go for now and try to avoid this repeating in the future. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:23, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just noting that a QPQ was provided for this nom, so it needs a full review.--Launchballer 21:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer already gave an ultimatum for your open nominations: provide a QPQ within 24 hours of the messages, or they will be closed. If you do not think it will be feasible to complete them all in time then it may be better to just let them go for now and try to avoid this repeating in the future. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:23, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Piotrus: I'm sorry there's been such a delay in reviewing this. This article is unfortunately not new enough. It was translated on the 15th and this DYK nom is from the 24th. When promoted, it included a non-existent quote from the (English language) review by Sister M. Andrea; a portion of the quote from the Polish Librarians' Association which, in square brackets on the Polish wikipedia, was translated here as if it was their own words; and no original Polish for the many Polish quotations (per MOS:FOREIGNQUOTE). I've fixed these issues, but even now there isn't much to this article beyond a plot summary and a disjointed set of quotes from reviews (some of which, like "social accents", hardly make sense in English). Better wishes for your next DYK, Tenpop421 (talk) 14:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:DYKNEW, the seven day requirement can be extended for a day or two if needed. Still work to be done though.--Launchballer 14:22, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Tenpop421: I've fixed the only clear actionable issue (i.e. I've rewritten the sentence/quote with "social accents" to sound better in English). I appreciate Tenpop421 cleanup of quotes. I am not sure what remains? The article is long enough, and its 'reception and analysis' section is much longer than its plot summary. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:30, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Piotrus: Given Launchballer's better knowledge than me of the DYK guidelines, I think this could be DYK eligible. I was mostly voicing my frustrations w/ the article as I found it. Thank you for fixing that phrase. I've replaced "foreshadow" with "foreground" in one quote (please correct me if I'm wrong, I was going by a online Polish-English dictionary). My only real problem is with the phrase "(the period of partitions and World War I)." Could we wikilink "the period of partitions" to something (do you mean Brest-Litovsk?). Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 14:59, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421: I've asked the translator (Oliwiasocz) to be more careful with the quotations on her talk page, and I've added a wikilink to the partitions of Poland. Thank you for your fixes, they were indeed much appreciated. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Thanks! I have to say, this is what confused me about that line: how does the 18th century partition of Poland relate to the circumstances in which the novel was written? Indeed how does WWI (which would start five years after the book was published)? I understand you might not have the Zieliński to hand, and to avoid confusion we can just remove this phrase, but on the off chance we can make it clearer. Tenpop421 (talk) 15:10, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421: I think I understand, although I don't have him on hand ATM, so I am not sure if this explanation will not a bit ORish (it is based on what I remember, and also, some stuff was not spelled out in the analysis as the academic Polish writers assumed their readers would understand stuff that for them is basic knowledge about Polish history, that non-Poles would however lack). The gist of this is that the book was written during the time Poland was partitioned, on the eve of World War I. During that time, discussion of Polish topics was subject to censorship by the partitioning powers; so some topics had to be written about through allegories, metaphors, allusions, etc. So in essence, when the book covers supression of Native American uprisings, this, for the Polish readers, would evoke the memory of Polish uprisings against the partitioners (ex, the January Uprising) and inspire [some of] them to take up the arms again. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:18, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Ah, I see. Thank you for explaining to me, and making it clearer for non-Poles on the page. I think this article is good to go now. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 15:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421: I think I understand, although I don't have him on hand ATM, so I am not sure if this explanation will not a bit ORish (it is based on what I remember, and also, some stuff was not spelled out in the analysis as the academic Polish writers assumed their readers would understand stuff that for them is basic knowledge about Polish history, that non-Poles would however lack). The gist of this is that the book was written during the time Poland was partitioned, on the eve of World War I. During that time, discussion of Polish topics was subject to censorship by the partitioning powers; so some topics had to be written about through allegories, metaphors, allusions, etc. So in essence, when the book covers supression of Native American uprisings, this, for the Polish readers, would evoke the memory of Polish uprisings against the partitioners (ex, the January Uprising) and inspire [some of] them to take up the arms again. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:18, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Thanks! I have to say, this is what confused me about that line: how does the 18th century partition of Poland relate to the circumstances in which the novel was written? Indeed how does WWI (which would start five years after the book was published)? I understand you might not have the Zieliński to hand, and to avoid confusion we can just remove this phrase, but on the off chance we can make it clearer. Tenpop421 (talk) 15:10, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421: I've asked the translator (Oliwiasocz) to be more careful with the quotations on her talk page, and I've added a wikilink to the partitions of Poland. Thank you for your fixes, they were indeed much appreciated. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Piotrus: Given Launchballer's better knowledge than me of the DYK guidelines, I think this could be DYK eligible. I was mostly voicing my frustrations w/ the article as I found it. Thank you for fixing that phrase. I've replaced "foreshadow" with "foreground" in one quote (please correct me if I'm wrong, I was going by a online Polish-English dictionary). My only real problem is with the phrase "(the period of partitions and World War I)." Could we wikilink "the period of partitions" to something (do you mean Brest-Litovsk?). Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 14:59, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Tenpop421: I've fixed the only clear actionable issue (i.e. I've rewritten the sentence/quote with "social accents" to sound better in English). I appreciate Tenpop421 cleanup of quotes. I am not sure what remains? The article is long enough, and its 'reception and analysis' section is much longer than its plot summary. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:30, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:DYKNEW, the seven day requirement can be extended for a day or two if needed. Still work to be done though.--Launchballer 14:22, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
The hook reads awkwardly to me. The phrase "about the struggles of Polish immigrants in the US" seems parallel to the point. I think this could be more clear if the hook was either directly about the initial rejection by communist censors or about the Polish immigrant subject matter. Rjjiii (talk) 16:29, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: I don't think those two points are parallel: its subject matter being the struggles of immigrants is at odds with the censors' comments about glorification. It gives the reader something to click for. Tenpop421 (talk) 19:47, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 19
[edit]Chauncey Archiquette
- ... that Chauncey Archiquette was Jim Thorpe's idol?
- Source: Path Lit by Lightning: The Life of Jim Thorpe (Thorpe said "[Archiquette] was my football idol and in our scrub games with the homemade football I always tried to emulate him") / Carlisle Vs. Army ("[Thorpe] was particularly taken with the team's star runner, an Indian boy named Chauncey Archiquette ... One day, Thorpe told himself, I'm going to be as tough as Chauncey ... [Thorpe, after watching practice] raced back and forth over the empty field, zigging here, zagging there, trying to emulate his idol.")
BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC).
- @BeanieFan11: Although Thorpe was a highly accomplished and iconic athlete of his era, I'm not actually sure if most Americans today know who he is or at least recognize his name (speaking as a non-American). In addition, I don't know if Thorpe is a name that is known internationally. As such, the hook as currently written may not be broadly interesting enough to meet WP:DYKINT. Additional hook suggestions are probably needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:04, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I considered this when making the nomination, but Thorpe is one of the most famous athletes of all time. Books are written about him nearly every year and we still have articles from the past few months such as "Thorpe was and still is the greatest athlete in the history of sports" / "On this day in history, May 28, 1888, Jim Thorpe, 'greatest athlete in the world,' is born" – I would be very surprised if the vast majority of people don't recognize his name. I feel like it may lose some of its 'punch', but if really necessary, we could say something like ALT1 ... that Chauncey Archiquette was the idol of Jim Thorpe, regarded as one of the greatest athletes in history? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll probably have to cite WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE here:
don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject
. And for what it's worth, I made a bit of an informal survey about this on Discord, and the three editors who responded said they didn't know who Thorpe is. Note that my thoughts about the hook are independent of the survey; in fact, I made the survey because I wanted to know if American editors might find the hook interesting and to check my own thoughts. As for the nomination itself, the safest option here is probably to try a completely different angle. While ALT1 is arguably a better option, as you said, it loses some of the punch with the additional context. Thorpe is no Lionel Messi or Michael Jordan to warrant the angle, methinks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)- I'm rather stunned at the idea that Thorpe isn't well known enough. I don't really see any other good options with the article as well. Would changing the hook so that it does not mention Thorpe, but still has that aspect, work? – I.e. something like ALT2 ... that the "greatest athlete in the world" was inspired by Chauncey Archiquette? (I'd need to add the quote to the article, but Thorpe has widely been called that.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's a better hook, but I'm not sure if it will pass scrutiny. DYK usually wants quotes in quote hooks to be attributed whenever possible, but adding an attribution to the hook would probably weaken the article's punch. It might be a good idea to seek opinions from other editors who are experts on wordsmithing like RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, or Launchballer. In any case, I'd suggest dropping any hook that directly mentions Jim Thorpe per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and either having only ALT2 for consideration for now, or trying a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I also have never heard of Jim Thorpe, although that may be because I know little about sports in general. I quite like ALT3: ... that tacklers "bounced off" Chauncey Archiquette "as if he were a brick wall"?.--Launchballer 15:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- That works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:49, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I also have never heard of Jim Thorpe, although that may be because I know little about sports in general. I quite like ALT3: ... that tacklers "bounced off" Chauncey Archiquette "as if he were a brick wall"?.--Launchballer 15:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's a better hook, but I'm not sure if it will pass scrutiny. DYK usually wants quotes in quote hooks to be attributed whenever possible, but adding an attribution to the hook would probably weaken the article's punch. It might be a good idea to seek opinions from other editors who are experts on wordsmithing like RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, or Launchballer. In any case, I'd suggest dropping any hook that directly mentions Jim Thorpe per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and either having only ALT2 for consideration for now, or trying a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm rather stunned at the idea that Thorpe isn't well known enough. I don't really see any other good options with the article as well. Would changing the hook so that it does not mention Thorpe, but still has that aspect, work? – I.e. something like ALT2 ... that the "greatest athlete in the world" was inspired by Chauncey Archiquette? (I'd need to add the quote to the article, but Thorpe has widely been called that.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll probably have to cite WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE here:
- Full review needed now that hook discussion has taken place. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:44, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi BeanieFan11. This article created on the 18 September (and promoted to GA since) is long enough, new enough, well-sourced, neutral, and copyvio free. The article is presentable. The QPQ has been done. I'll admit, I (non-American) was not familiar with Jim Thorpe before this DYK, so I prefer ALT3. However, I don't love ALT3, because it seems like similar things have been said about a lot of American footballers. Perhaps it is worth making people click through to see who Jim Thorpe is in order to have an interesting hook? All hooks are cited and I've verified the citations. Good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 21:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm also not wild about ALT3, both on attribution and interestingness, but I wouldn't object to someone else promoting it. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 03:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 22
[edit]Barquq Castle
- ... that the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret of Barquq Castle in the Gaza Strip were still standing until 2024?
- Source: Abu Khalaf 1983, p. 182: "Nowadays the Khan is almost demolished, but the front part, which consists of the fac;ade including the gateway and the Mosque with its minaret still stands."
Onceinawhile (talk) 00:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Onceinawhile: Please note that per a recent rule change, a QPQ must be provided at the time of the nomination or at most immediately after. The nomination may be failed without further warning if a QPQ is not provided as soon as possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I have done the QPQ now. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed now the QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
article is long enough, new enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is complete. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile:@Gonzo fan2007: This hook implies that all of these things (the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret) are no longer standing as of 2024. However, it doesn't necessarily say that in the article, just that the site was vaguely "damaged". If we know to what extent, and if we know that all those things are indeed no longer standing, then this hook is fine, that just needs to be mentioned sourced in the article. If not the hook may need to be tweaked somewhat to reflect the fact we don't know what parts are standing or not. Kimikel (talk) 14:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel: thank you for raising this. The hook was written before the article was complete, so it was intentionally vague as to what happened during the war as we had not quite figured it out. Following further research, the article now says "The castle was damaged during the Israel–Hamas war." UNESCO have verified damage to the site, and the images in this article show what is standing and what is damaged. I suggest we amend the hook to:
- ALT1: ... that the 637-year-old Barquq Castle, the eponymous historical monument of Khan Yunis, was damaged during the Israel–Hamas war?
- Onceinawhile (talk) 18:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel: thank you for raising this. The hook was written before the article was complete, so it was intentionally vague as to what happened during the war as we had not quite figured it out. Following further research, the article now says "The castle was damaged during the Israel–Hamas war." UNESCO have verified damage to the site, and the images in this article show what is standing and what is damaged. I suggest we amend the hook to:
Articles created/expanded on September 24
[edit]Sankar Montoute
- ... that Sankar Montoute was the first NFL player from Trinidad and Tobago?
- Source: PFR
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jamaludin Malik (legislator)
- Comment: Will do QPQ within next 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC).
- interesting hook. However the cited reference does not explicitly state that Sankar Montoute is the first player from Trinidad and Tobago in NFL. There are names of 5 other players from Trinidad and Tobago in this list. Cited source may be updated Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyana guru: Row five in the hook source has the dates when each of the five players started their careers. As the source states, Montoute debuted in 1987, which is earlier than the others, who played later (Curvin Richards 1991, Kerry Carter 2003, Anthony Herrera 2005, Yannik Cudjoe-Virgil 2015). BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11:: You are right. Agreed. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 11:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyana guru: Row five in the hook source has the dates when each of the five players started their careers. As the source states, Montoute debuted in 1987, which is earlier than the others, who played later (Curvin Richards 1991, Kerry Carter 2003, Anthony Herrera 2005, Yannik Cudjoe-Virgil 2015). BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyana guru: What else needs to be done to approve this hook? If it is ready, are you able to approve this? Z1720 (talk) 23:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- * The article is long enough and well sourced. The hook is verifiable against the reference provided. Most of the references provided in this article are paywalled. But considering that this article is a Good articles/Sports and recreation, these can be accepted in good faith. The article has been recently substantially expanded. The article has recently undergone a successful GA Review and awarded Good Article status. The hook is interesting and article seems good enough for DYK. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 05:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Tick mark suitably modified Sarvagyana guru (talk) 08:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- * The article is long enough and well sourced. The hook is verifiable against the reference provided. Most of the references provided in this article are paywalled. But considering that this article is a Good articles/Sports and recreation, these can be accepted in good faith. The article has been recently substantially expanded. The article has recently undergone a successful GA Review and awarded Good Article status. The hook is interesting and article seems good enough for DYK. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 05:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
@BeanieFan11 and Sarvagyana guru: gonna quickly suggest:
- ALT1: ... that Sankar Montoute became the first NFL player from Trinidad and Tobago in 1987?
theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:34, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- What's the need of specifying 1987? BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Meh. i thought it'd be more interesting if they joined later rather than earlier, and 1987 seems fairly late to me. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron:Suggest to retain the earlier hook
or in case 1987 is required to be mentioned, then maybe rephrased as
... that in 1987, Sankar Montoute became the first from Trinidad and Tobago to play in NFL?
Sarvagyana guru (talk) 07:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 25
[edit]Kazimierz Sakowicz
- ... that Polish journalist and resistance member Kazimierz Sakowicz spent three years recording the murder of tens of thousands in his diary, which was published decades later? Source: Margolis (2005), or Wilczewski (2009), or Guesnet (2003)
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC).
- Article is interesting and the hook is captivating and not too baity. I removed the picture of Sakowicz, because it clearly isn't him and the picture isn't from 1939.Marcelus (talk) 11:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed covering all the DYK criteria. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Piotrus. This interesting article, 5x expanded between the 25-26 September, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and copyvio free. QPQ done. Hook is interesting and short enough, as well as backed up by citations and article. I have made some edits to the article and have replaced "death" with "murder" in the hook, to make it clear that he was recording a massacre. Good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 19:59, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 27
[edit]Phoebe Plummer
... that during Phoebe Plummer's May 2024 jury trial over a climate protest, the court finished early on several days due to the heat? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/15/uk-climate-activists-convicted-in-first-trial-of-new-anti-protest-lawsALT1: ... that an October 2022 protest involving Just Stop Oil member Phoebe Plummer inspired many activists worldwide to throw food at paintings? Source: https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/11/17/just-stop-oil-phoebe-plummer-prison/- ALT2: ... that when Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland faced trial over the Just Stop Oil Sunflowers protest, they were "unfortunate" to draw Christopher Hehir as judge? Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/30/just-stop-oil-soup-throwing-protests-moral-toddlerhood/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zero-emission zone in Oxford, Template:Did you know nominations/CyberJoly Drim, Template:Did you know nominations/Ajah Pritchard-Lolo, Template:Did you know nominations/Alison Creagh
- Comment: Plummer was created 27 September, though I did a 5x expansion on 2 October, added Just Stop Oil Sunflowers protest three days later, added Christopher Hehir two days after that, and added Holland on 5 November.
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Overall: Ooh, a quadruple hook. All of the articles are new enough, long enough, and well cited. There are a few places where phrasing could be a bit more neutral (I feel like inspired would be better than empowered, for example), but those may also be stylstic considerations. Earwig isn't happy, but it's the large block quote that speaks to Plummer's inspiration in that instance. Ideally Hehir's article would have a bit more on his early life, but if the sources aren't talking about it, rather difficult. (Minor quibble: the source says "unfortunately" rather than "unfortunate", but I think it works here). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 3
[edit]Brick by Brick: How Lego Rewrote the Rules of Innovation
- ... that a 2013 book about how the The Lego Group reinvented itself became a popular business text? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jun/04/how-lego-clicked-the-super-brand-that-reinvented-itself
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC).
- New enough, long enough, and neutral if a tad quote-heavy. Sources are good although many are on the short side. The hook is sourced (if not the main focus of the piece... which is a bit sus researched in general, the Guardian article mention Mindstorms approvingly but that was one of the things Knudstorp cut as money-losing?!) I made some edits - feel free to adjust if you disagree, I don't think they were so major as to impede the ability to review. QPQ is done.
- While this is DYKN not GAN, in the realm of more subjective issues, there are currently just three sentences on Content. Granted, the last time I nominated a book for DYK reviewers complained that there was too much content so maybe I'm not a median source here, but this seems a bit shallow, merely verifying this is a book on Lego's business turnaround. Do Breen & Robertson have anything deeper to say? Not asking for a huge expansion or anything, but even a small one might help.
- (As side chatter, I got to see Knudstorp speak once, although inexplicably no one has taken a better photograph than my blurry 2010 one yet. Interesting fellow.)
- Anyway, in querying, I think the hook may be a little too mysterious by only saying "a 2013 book". I'm personally a fan of not forcing hovers (which don't work on mobile) to find out where a link will go. Any thoughts on this alternative hook that spells out the name of the book?
- ALT1a: ... that the 2013 book Brick by Brick about how The Lego Group reinvented itself became a popular business text?
- ALT1b: ... that the 2013 book Brick by Brick about The Lego Group's financial turnaround in the 2000s became a popular business text?
- SnowFire (talk) 05:57, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @SnowFire: Sorry for belted reply - do WP:ECHO me in the future, if you can; my watchlist is too big to be useful. I am fine with your c/e and proposed ALT hooks, which I can 'adopt' so that you can approve them :) As for expansion of content, I am not sure what to add there - right now we have a summary of the key points. It could be expanded with some details (I added one I remembered from one of the reviews), but I don't recall anything particularly in depth. Although certainly for a GA I expect we should and could find a bit more (note there are some sources I added just as ELs, for editors who may want to expand it more in the future). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: No problem, I just figured you were busy.
- On content: I guess I was more wondering if the authors came to any particular conclusions / slants rather than writing a straight-up history book on what happened. As a side comment, this book was written in 2013, but for the record, there were many successful List of Lego video games released after 2013! (Not produced in-house or anything of course, but just in the sense of licensing the rights.)
- Approved. For the promoter, I prefer ALT1a/1b but am of course mildly biased, but original hook is approved as well. SnowFire (talk) 14:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @SnowFire: Sorry for belted reply - do WP:ECHO me in the future, if you can; my watchlist is too big to be useful. I am fine with your c/e and proposed ALT hooks, which I can 'adopt' so that you can approve them :) As for expansion of content, I am not sure what to add there - right now we have a summary of the key points. It could be expanded with some details (I added one I remembered from one of the reviews), but I don't recall anything particularly in depth. Although certainly for a GA I expect we should and could find a bit more (note there are some sources I added just as ELs, for editors who may want to expand it more in the future). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 7
[edit]Sequenza XIV
- ... that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio, in 2002 the last work in a series begun in 1958, was inspired by the artistry of Rohan de Saram including traditional Kandyan drumming? Source: [5]
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Overall: Hi Gerda Arendt, happy to do the DYK review. The article has a readable prose size of 4310 characters. It was created yesterday. Every paragraph in the body of the article is sourced. WP:EARWIG shows no copyright problems. QPQ has not yet been done. I have a minor quibble about the hook: it seems to me that it tries to convey too many individual facts. What about something simpler like
ALT1: ...that Sequenza XIV was composed in 2002 as Luciano Berio's final work in his series begun in 1958?
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- ALT2: ...that Sequenza XIV, composed for Rohan de Saram in 2002, is Luciano Berio's final work in his series begun in 1958? Phlsph7 (talk) 16:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing, and the suggestions. I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Mind. I believe that the one thing fascinating "Maestro Berio" (as he is called by the cellist) as well as the ordinary Main page reader is this drumming. We can rather do without the series if it's really too much. I can also imagine to improve the series article to make it a double hook. ALT1 is no option for me because some kind of reverence for the cellist (and drummer) was the motivation to write the article. Making him GA seemed harder ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ah I see. If we want to go without the series, we could use something like
- ALT3: ...that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio was inspired by the childhood experiences of cellist Rohan de Saram with Kandyan drumming?
- But I think your original suggestion also meets the DYK requirements so the decision may be more a matter of taste. Approved. Phlsph7(talk) 07:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I think that ALT3 is a bit smallish, - the childhood drumming is just part of the inspiration, the playing of one of the most inspiring cellists of all times should not be left out completely ;) - I learned of his death from a friend who is a cellist, and felt his enthusiasm remembering a live concert of Xenakis. Berio knew why he added to a series that had already been considered complete ("complete" recording in 1995), - it's an outstanding piece in every respect and deserves a little longer hook, imho. We can't use any of the pics, sadly, because de Saram's is not free, and Berio's is way too young for one of his last works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- One last alternative if we want to go for the full package: what do you think about the following, a version of ALT0 copy-edited only for better flow:
- ALT0a: ... that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio, completed in 2002 as the last work in a series begun in 1958, was inspired by Rohan de Saram's artistry, including traditional Kandyan drumming?
- Phlsph7 (talk) 10:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- I like it --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I think that ALT3 is a bit smallish, - the childhood drumming is just part of the inspiration, the playing of one of the most inspiring cellists of all times should not be left out completely ;) - I learned of his death from a friend who is a cellist, and felt his enthusiasm remembering a live concert of Xenakis. Berio knew why he added to a series that had already been considered complete ("complete" recording in 1995), - it's an outstanding piece in every respect and deserves a little longer hook, imho. We can't use any of the pics, sadly, because de Saram's is not free, and Berio's is way too young for one of his last works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing, and the suggestions. I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Mind. I believe that the one thing fascinating "Maestro Berio" (as he is called by the cellist) as well as the ordinary Main page reader is this drumming. We can rather do without the series if it's really too much. I can also imagine to improve the series article to make it a double hook. ALT1 is no option for me because some kind of reverence for the cellist (and drummer) was the motivation to write the article. Making him GA seemed harder ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
I don't think the hooks here would be very enticing to the average reader, but I won't object if someone else wants to promote it. Just noting a bit of queasiness. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Someone runs a series from 1958 to 2002, and you think that's not "enticing"? We have no room for that the series had been deemed complete in 1995, but someone made an exception. Someone plays cello and Indian drum, and you think that's not unusual? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think the part about completing a series started over 40 years earlier should be interesting to the average reader. Phlsph7 (talk) 09:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 9
[edit]Veiqia
- ... that when young Fijian women reached puberty, their hips were tattooed with veiqia (pictured)? Source: "In nineteenth-century Fiji, when a girl reached puberty, she was tattooed in a secluded enclosure by a daubati (female specialist)." https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv18kc0px.19 & for hips, see " following account of tatuing (veinggia) is brief and incomplete partly because it is a custom restricted to the female sex and then confined to that portion of the body surrounding the pudendurn muliebre and adjacent areas which are covered by the short fringe skirt (liku)" https://www.jstor.org/stable/2790097
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Baguia Fort
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QPQ is forthcoming, but didn't want to forget to nominate this articleQPQ done
Lajmmoore (talk) 20:55, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
- Recent GA. Article is well-referenced throughout with no copyvio detected. Hook is interesting and referenced. Image confirmed to be PD. Good to go with the QPQ done. Juxlos (talk) 06:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Helmut Bauer (bishop)
- ... that Helmut Bauer, auxiliary bishop responsible for church music in the Diocese of Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, founded a chapel to Mary (pictured) in his home town? Source: [6]
- Reviewed: Samuel Lander
- Comment: You can see on youtube how parts from Mozart's Requiem were performed for him at his cathedral today (beginning c. 6 min into it).
Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
- Date, length, hook, QPQ, close paraphrase check checks out. Image free on Commons (albeit not great quality). --Soman (talk) 13:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Soman and Gerda Arendt: a couple of things. Firstly, on English terminology: notwithstanding the direct translation of "Feldkapelle", a "chapel" in English is usually a room in a larger building. I would instead call this a "shrine" or similar.Secondly, on WP:DYKINT: perhaps we could trim the bits about his various jobs and focus on the chapel? To me, it is interesting that it is now a hiking destination, or that a ceremony has been held on the same feast day since 1984, the day of its consecration. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- learning English: this is the first time I hear that chapel has a different meaning from Kapelle. We could do nothing, relying on "usually". We could use the original Feldkapelle, which would clarify better that it is in nature (which the image shows - open to the front) but not clearly. "Shrine" tells me that there are some relics, such as those of Hildegard of Bingen in the village church of Eibingen (not the abbey). Wrong? - As for shortening: yes we could stop right after Gotteslob which speaks of responsibility for the common German-language hymnal (for German-language countries that is), far beyond the Würzburg diocese, and far far beyond some little open space in the fields. I only picked it because of the image, and because he loved Mary as well as church music. Yes, there was one piece to Mary sung in the Requiem, but the heavy weight was on Mozart's Requiem. - Just today I remember a 10-years-old hook about Mela Tenenbaum, and am happy that it says something about geography in her life and dedication of music to her, and not just that she played a piece with an unusual instrumentation, or just that she played on Queen Elizabeth 2. Happy also to have mentioned Ukraine in 2014. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, perhaps using the original Feldkapelle would be best. The image is also rather low-quality and probably shouldn't be used. With that in mind, I'm rather struck by his work on confirmations—including the 500 in Tanzania. If he considered that work his prime duty, he'd probably prefer a hook on it—and you get something about geography in his life too. What do you think? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Helmut Bauer, responsible for church music in Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, confirmed around 150,000 young people, including 500 in Tanzania? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ok for ALT1. I'm still also ok with the original hook, a kapelle is a chapel and a feldkapelle is a field chapel. See for example "feldkapelle, or field chapel, a Northern European tradition of building small chapels in rural and agrarian landscapes." ([7]) --Soman (talk) 09:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Helmut Bauer, responsible for church music in Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, confirmed around 150,000 young people, including 500 in Tanzania? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, perhaps using the original Feldkapelle would be best. The image is also rather low-quality and probably shouldn't be used. With that in mind, I'm rather struck by his work on confirmations—including the 500 in Tanzania. If he considered that work his prime duty, he'd probably prefer a hook on it—and you get something about geography in his life too. What do you think? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- learning English: this is the first time I hear that chapel has a different meaning from Kapelle. We could do nothing, relying on "usually". We could use the original Feldkapelle, which would clarify better that it is in nature (which the image shows - open to the front) but not clearly. "Shrine" tells me that there are some relics, such as those of Hildegard of Bingen in the village church of Eibingen (not the abbey). Wrong? - As for shortening: yes we could stop right after Gotteslob which speaks of responsibility for the common German-language hymnal (for German-language countries that is), far beyond the Würzburg diocese, and far far beyond some little open space in the fields. I only picked it because of the image, and because he loved Mary as well as church music. Yes, there was one piece to Mary sung in the Requiem, but the heavy weight was on Mozart's Requiem. - Just today I remember a 10-years-old hook about Mela Tenenbaum, and am happy that it says something about geography in her life and dedication of music to her, and not just that she played a piece with an unusual instrumentation, or just that she played on Queen Elizabeth 2. Happy also to have mentioned Ukraine in 2014. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Michael F. Adams
- ... that Michael F. Adams (pictured) was the first president of Centre College who was not Presbyterian? Source: Weston, Centre College: A Bicentennial History (2019), p.119
- ALT1: ... that during his time as president of the University of Georgia, Michael F. Adams advocated for a playoff championship system for college football, over five years before such a system was implemented? Source: https://www.redandblack.com/sports/after-adams-championships-controversies-and-change-during-years-as-president/article_dca8723c-9741-11e2-bfcd-0019bb30f31a.html
- ALT2: ... that five new colleges were established at the University of Georgia during the administration of President Michael F. Adams (pictured)? Source: https://news.uga.edu/uga-president-adams-announces-plans-to-step-down-next-year/
- ALT3: ... that Michael F. Adams (pictured) was chief of staff to Senate minority leader Howard Baker for three years and later ran for Congress himself? Source: https://sc.centre.edu/ency/a/adams.html; https://clerk.house.gov/member_info/electionInfo/1980election.pdf
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Black Lesbian and Gay Centre
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Overall: Earwig comes up high, but everything seems to be long names of organizations Valereee (talk) 20:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Personally I find ALT1 the most interesting, ALT0 as second choice. Not wild about all the affiliated sources for the hooks, can we find somethng from places he didn't work? Valereee (talk) 20:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't love the photo. It's a crop from another, and it's just awkward. I tried to recrop, but it's not high enough res and doesn't have enough room to come up with a better version. Valereee (talk) 20:26, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, Chislehurst
- ... that Napoleon III was buried in St Mary's Church, Chislehurst, before being moved to Farnborough Abbey 15 years later?
- Source: "The exiled Emperor himself died in 1873 and was buried on 15 January 1873 in St Mary’s ... she transferred the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin in 1888," from Taking Stock, by Historic England.
Cardofk (talk) 08:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Cardofk, review follows: article created 9 October and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources for the subject; I didn't pick up anything I considered overly close to the main source in a check for close paraphrasing; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited; a QPQ has been started. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 11:52, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Cardofk: The source indeed says: "in 1881 the Empress founded St Michael’s Abbey at Farnborough, where she transferred the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin in 1888" but down the bottom it also says: "both the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin were removed by the Empress to Farnborough, Hants., in 1889. There is a memorial to the Prince Imperial on the East wall of the church erected by Monsignor Goddard his friend and tutor on the spot where the Prince’s coffin rested from 1879-89." Do we have another source? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:48, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Hawkeye7: Thank you for catching that, yes I've added another source. The "list description" at the bottom of that source is the original property listing made in the 1970s by Historic England, often done very quickly with little evidence of verifiability. The long text above was done in the 2010s and often corrects the listing by providing more detail. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- For confirmation the reburial took place in January see, for example, this contemporary report from The Tablet of 14 January 1888 - Dumelow (talk) 08:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Hawkeye7: Thank you for catching that, yes I've added another source. The "list description" at the bottom of that source is the original property listing made in the 1970s by Historic England, often done very quickly with little evidence of verifiability. The long text above was done in the 2010s and often corrects the listing by providing more detail. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 12
[edit]Hasan Ali (activist)
- ... that in 1996, language activist Hasan Ali used seven sentences to distinguish the Osing language from Javanese in front of experts? Source: [8], p30-31
- ALT1: ... that language activist Hasan Ali spent over 20 years to compile a dictionary of the Osing language? Source: [9]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mobtown Ballroom
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Juxlos (talk) 08:08, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I did not find any close paraphrasing. Sources are mostly in Indonesian so assuming good faith for them, although the PhD dissertation is in English and the stuff it verifies is verified. I will leave the choice in hook to the promoter. There are just two issues, one for each hook. For ALT0, I'm not actually sure if a PhD dissertation is a suitable source in this case, although it's not giving an exceptional claim perhaps it might be usable. For ALT1, the sentence saying that it was finished in 2002 (and thus the dictionary took 24 years to finish) lacks a footnote, so right now it doesn't meet WP:DYKCITE. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:26, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Added inline for ALT1. Juxlos (talk) 03:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: Almost there. I tried opening the Tempo link used to cite ALT1 but I got redirected to the website's front page. Is the article only available in Indonesia or is the link dead? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Weird, that worked when I made the nom. Seems like the website changed how its hyperlinks worked very recently. Added an archive.org link ([10]) from 2021.
- Thank you, that should work. Assuming good faith for the Tempo source, although a GT translation checks out. Hook choice will be left to the promoter. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Weird, that worked when I made the nom. Seems like the website changed how its hyperlinks worked very recently. Added an archive.org link ([10]) from 2021.
- @Juxlos: Almost there. I tried opening the Tempo link used to cite ALT1 but I got redirected to the website's front page. Is the article only available in Indonesia or is the link dead? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Veylma Falaeo
- ... that Veylma Falaeo is the first woman to be President of the Congress of New Caledonia?
- Source: RFI
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KTSF
- Comment: QPQ to be done within 24 hours. This would be the first DYK on someone born in New Caledonia ever.
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Overall: Article looks good, giving a complete overview of the subject's biography, thoroughly citing its sources and presenting facts in a neutral manner. Per WP:DYKHOOK, "first" hooks are given greater scrutiny, but I think this meets the criteria for exceptional sourcing as RFI and other sources all draw attention to Falaeo being the first; the fact can also be independently verified by looking at the list of presidents of the congress (linked in the hook). Only thing currently missing is a QPQ, feel free to ping me once that is done. Grnrchst (talk) 14:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Following up on the QPQ. In the future I would highly suggest having a stash of reviews and/or doing the reviews before making the nomination, in order to avoid cases like this. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Grnrchst: QPQ done. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Good to go! --Grnrchst (talk) 08:09, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Charles J. M. Gwinn
- ... that Charles J. M. Gwinn (pictured) was the first state's attorney of Baltimore elected under the constitution he helped draft?
- Source: Baltimore: Its History and Its People. Vol. 3. Lewis Historical Publishing Company. 1912. p. 870. OCLC 1041048386.
- ALT1: ... that a future attorney general of Maryland (pictured) helped draft the will of philanthropist Johns Hopkins? Source: Ibid., pp. 870–871.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Headless priest
Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 03:32, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
- Going to review this one! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Article is new enough, having been moved from draftspace on October 12.
- Three times the required length, certainly long enough.
- Very well sourced, copyvio doesn't show anything substantial, no POV or BLP issues to be found.
- Article is presentable. If we want to quibble on the details, the second picture is staggered from the infobox on V10, but that's not the kind of presentability issue that really matters at DYK.
- Thankfully, the book is in open access! The first hook is fully cited there, and the second one is mostly cited there, although it does not mention that the will was drafted prior to him becoming Attorney General. To be fair, as Hopkins died two years prior, the inference is pretty obvious.
- Both hooks are short enough.
- The first hook is not necessarily amazing, as it already presumes knowledge of what a state's attorney in a city is (I didn't realize it was a distinct position from "attorney general" at first), and it isn't that surprising that someone drafting a constitution would get one of the offices it established. ALT1 is more interesting in my opinion, although it might depend on how recognizable Johns Hopkins is.
- All images used in the article are public domain, and the hook image is present in the article and clear at a diminished size, so it is a good image.
- QPQ has been done ahead of time.
- No other issues, as far as I can see.
- Should be fine for ALT1 at least! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:28, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Kiki Wong
- ... that heavy metal guitarist Kiki Wong (pictured) played drums for Taylor Swift before joining The Smashing Pumpkins?
- Source: NME, June 2024: "Kiki Wong, the new guitarist in The Smashing Pumpkins, has spoken about the “mind-blowing” experience of playing her first shows with the band over the last week. [...] Among her claims to fame is playing drums for Taylor Swift's performance of "Shake It Off" at the 2014 MTV Video Music Awards."
Jonathan Deamer (talk) 12:59, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Nice work! The pic especially is a great find. Innisfree987 (talk) 08:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 13
[edit]Bethwel Henry
- ... that Bethwel Henry was the first Micronesian to receive a degree in his field and served as a United Nations delegate at age 25?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Empire Brunei
- Comment: QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is well sourced, hook is somewhat interesting and QPQ is completed. Playing a bit loose with the timing, but I don't see that being an issue, so I approve. TheBritinator (talk) 15:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Mały Brzostek
- ... that there's a town in Poland which has disappeared?
- Source: Stanaszek, Bogdan (2007), "Z kart historii...", Brzostek: 640-lecie lokacji miasta (1367-2007). Tradycje – Perspektywy rozwoju (PDF) (in Polish), Brzostek: Towarzystwo Miłośników Ziemi Brzosteckiej i Urząd Gminy w Brzostku, p. 37–53, ISBN 978-83-901833-9-8
- ALT1: ... that in medieval Poland a town has been "absorbed" by its bigger neigbour? Source: Stanaszek, Bogdan (2007), "Z kart historii...", Brzostek: 640-lecie lokacji miasta (1367-2007). Tradycje – Perspektywy rozwoju (PDF) (in Polish), Brzostek: Towarzystwo Miłośników Ziemi Brzosteckiej i Urząd Gminy w Brzostku, p. 37–53, ISBN 978-83-901833-9-8
- ALT2: ... that in Poland there existed a town which has never appeared on any maps? Source: Stanaszek, Bogdan (2007), "Z kart historii...", Brzostek: 640-lecie lokacji miasta (1367-2007). Tradycje – Perspektywy rozwoju (PDF) (in Polish), Brzostek: Towarzystwo Miłośników Ziemi Brzosteckiej i Urząd Gminy w Brzostku, p. 37–53, ISBN 978-83-901833-9-8
- Reviewed:
- Comment: My first nomination, so go easy on me :)
Filipny (talk) 20:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
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- Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - AGF on the hook citations due to the fact that I don't speak Polish. ALT2 is ineligible due to the fact that it doesn't appear in the article (and also is somewhat contradicted by the map showing its location in the article). I'm not sure ALT1 is totally factual, is it really correct to say that a town that became a suburb of another was absorbed by it?
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Overall: Pass ALT0 only, other two hooks are ineligible for reasons described above. ALT0 probably also needs a minor reword, may I propose ALT0a: "... that a medieval town in Poland disappeared?". Although this isn't strictly a requirement, some copyediting to clean up awkward grammar/phrasing in the article before it appears on the front page would probably be nice. Thank you for this well researched article! 🌸wasianpower🌸 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 14
[edit]Francis L. Sampson
- ... that Saving Private Ryan was based on a true story involving Francis L. Sampson (pictured), a paratrooper chaplain who eventually became the 12th Chief of Chaplains of the United States Army?
- Source: Longden, Tom (Dec 16, 2007). "War hero Sampson carried message of peace". The Des Moines Register. Retrieved 25 September 2024.
- ALT1: ... that when Francis L. Sampson (pictured) was captured during the D-Day landings, German soldiers did not believe he was a non-combatant because they had never seen a paratrooper chaplain before? Source: Warnock, Bill (1 December 2020). "D-Day Drama at the Klondike Aid Station". Warfare History Network. Archived from the original on 13 Oct 2024.
- ALT2: ... that Dwight Eisenhower nominated Francis L. Sampson (pictured) for the Medal of Honor, but he did not receive it as Army Chief of Staff George C. Marshall did not believe it to be appropriate for non-combatants? Source: Warnock, Bill (1 December 2020). "D-Day Drama at the Klondike Aid Station". Warfare History Network. Archived from the original on 13 Oct 2024.
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- Comment: The ALT1 and ALT2 hooks may need rewording; I'm open to suggestions. ALT2 could use File:D-Day Francis Sampson burials.jpg instead, perhaps cropped and zoomed a bit.
~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 15:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
- No QPQ needed. Passed GAN. Sources are reliable and article is long enough. Image is properly licensed. I think the first hook is too misleading, as when I first read it I thought it implied that Sampson's story played a big role in the film, but the article barely mentions that he suggested something to someone who's story did play a big role. I think that ALT 1 is better, but it should change the link to [[D-Day landings]] rather than the present [[Normandy landings|D-Day landings]] to keep it under the 200 character limit. Source is verified. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 08:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 15
[edit]John Moore (basketball)
- ... that after learning that UCLA's student body president was Black, John Moore's mother said "this is where he's going to school"?
- Source: "'You mean there are fifteen thousand students at this school, and out of all these people the student body president is black?' ... 'Well,' Johnny's mother said, 'this is where he's going to school.' "(Wooden: A Coach's Life)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ricot Joseph
- Comment: The source is offline. Let me know if more quotes are needed.
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Overall: Article is new enough. Hook is interesting, reads good, and is short enough. Everything in the article is cited. I read the entire article and just fixed a few minor things. Approving the hook. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 16
[edit]Tea production in Indonesia
- ... that although tea was introduced to Indonesia in 1684, commercial production only began in the 1820s? Source: [13]
- ALT1: ... that during the colonial period, Indonesia was the largest exporter of tea outside of the British Raj and Ceylon? Source: [14]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Veiqia
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 06:57, 16 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Per WP:DYKCOMPLETE please expand the section Impact to more than a one sentence paragraph RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 02:16, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Easier to merge it to Statistics. That better? Juxlos (talk) 02:41, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: works for me. Thanks for the efforts to create this article.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
I like ALT1, but it's not supported by the source – Ceylon (i.e., Sri Lanka) is named as the second largest producer, with Java and Sumatra combined being third. Pinging Juxlos. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that Ceylon was part of the Raj at that point (kind of like Burma). Guess not. Hook updated. Juxlos (talk) 00:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Having just done a brief Wikidive, it looks pretty interesting. Colonialism was never simple. Anyways, reinstating the tick thanks to the correction. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that Ceylon was part of the Raj at that point (kind of like Burma). Guess not. Hook updated. Juxlos (talk) 00:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
James Smart (police officer)
- ... that Keir Starmer described Chief Constable James Smart (pictured) as "one of the founding fathers of the Scottish Police"?
- Source: [1]
Sahaib (talk) 09:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Sahaib, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 16 October and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I hadn't heard of the publisher used for the citaiton for the hook but the author looks like they are reliable, holding a PhD and having written on the history of Scottish police elsewher (and being a former police superintendent); hook fact is mentioned in the article and supported by the source; image is OK and looks to be public domain by virtue of age; I didn't pick up any issues with overly-close paraphrasing from the online sources; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 10:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ McGowan, John (30 November 2022). Policing the Metropolis of Scotland: A History of Police in The City & County of Edinburgh, 1833-1901 (Volume I). Turlough Publishers. p. 1554. Retrieved 15 October 2023.
Articles created/expanded on October 17
[edit]Derrick Harden
- ... that working at a post office was how Derrick Harden became an NFL player?
- Source: Capital Times ("Another Wisconsin native is wide receiver Derrick Harden, a former Milwaukee South standout. Former Green Bay Packer Lionel Aldridge, who worked with Harden at a Milwaukee post office, recommended him to the Packers." - i.e. he became a Packer because he worked with Aldridge at a post office, since the latter was able to get him a tryout in the league)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yan Ruisheng
- Comment: QPQ to be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC).
- article was recently promoted to GA, is long enough and within policy. The hook is interesting and short enough. BeanieFan11, just need a QPQ. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: I think you missed that I listed Yan Ruisheng above. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- You are right, I did (I saw the "QPQ to be done within 24 hours"). Looks good! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: I think you missed that I listed Yan Ruisheng above. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Fishing cat
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that in Bangladesh, fishing cats are often confused for tiger cubs and are killed whenever they come into contact with humans?
ALT1: ... that the fishing cat (pictured) is estimated to have diverged together with the leopard cat between 4.31 to 1.74 million years ago and 4.25 to 0.02 million years ago?Source: https://zenodo.org/records/1230866 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4691742/- ALT2: ... that the fishing cat (pictured) mainly inhabits wetlands and preys predominantly on fish species?
- ALT3: ...that the fishing cat diverged from its sister species at least 20,000 years ago?
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Wolverine XI (talk to me) 09:06, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Starting review--Kevmin § 17:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- The first thing I notice is that alt1 doesnt actually make sense. What are the Fishing Cat and Leopard cats diverging from? Also the MYAs are notably specific, where are they from?--Kevmin § 17:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- They diverged from a common ancestor. This needs to be added. Or would that make ALT1 too long ? – BhagyaMani (talk) 20:47, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- The first thing I notice is that alt1 doesnt actually make sense. What are the Fishing Cat and Leopard cats diverging from? Also the MYAs are notably specific, where are they from?--Kevmin § 17:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Wolverine XI and BhagyaMani: A common ancestor of just the fishing cat or of the Fishing cat and the hybridized Leopard cat, or of the fishing and both leopard cat species? Also, the conflicting divergence estimates shouldn't be an "and" connector, they should be an "or", as they are in conflict with each other.--Kevmin § 21:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- The fisher is not part of this scenario AT ALL, but is not even a cat. The fishing cat and the leopard cat are members of the same genus, hence had a common ancestor. Estimation of genetic divergence time from this last common ancestor was performed by two different author teams and derived from two different sets of genetic material + analysis. The 1st estimate for this divergence time of 4.31–1.74 million years ago (mya) was based on mitochondrial gene segments, and the 2nd of 4.25–0.02 mya on SNP genotyping. – BhagyaMani (talk) 01:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- The snark is NOT appropriate, we're both aware the taxa in question here. Are you saying that the estimates are for the full genus then its also including the flat face cat and I get that two divergence dates are present, but it doesn't change that the wording "between 4.31 to 1.74 million years ago and 4.25 to 0.02 million years ago" is fallacious. The two dating results are mildly contradictory so saying "and" between them is not correct unless we are explicit about the genes involved, which the article does not do at this point. The clarification of mitochondrial and SNP genotyping is needed. I also feel that alt1 will run afowl of being to specialized for a broad audience as its currently worded.
- There are also close paraphrase issues in the distribution and Behavior sections that should be dealt with. Full sections of sentences are pulled directly from the source material with no attempt at reqording.--Kevmin § 16:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: @Wolverine XI: What would you both think about this hook:ALT3 "... that the fishing cat is threatened by the destruction of wetlands in Southeast Asia?"
.. in Southeast Asia
is erroneous, because destruction -- and conversion -- of wetlands is a threat EVERYWHERE in fishing cat range. – BhagyaMani (talk) 17:48, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- And how about amending ALT1 to ALT4 "... that the fishing cat diverged from the genus Prionailurus at least 20,000 years ago?" ? – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:43, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: @Wolverine XI: What would you both think about this hook:ALT3 "... that the fishing cat is threatened by the destruction of wetlands in Southeast Asia?"
The close paraphrasing is dealt with, and ALT3 ALT4 hooks are sourced and more hooky for general audiences. GA is new enough and article is very well cited to neutral sourcing. For hook Alt4 @BhagyaMani: we could go with "... that the fishing cat diverged from its sister species at least 20,000 years ago?"--Kevmin § 16:47, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think using Prionailurus is more appropriate, as the words 'sister species' are not in the text. And I once learned that words in DYK phrasing needs to be in text. I also suggest to discard ALT1 with the details and source, the more so as this source is not the same as referenced in text. – BhagyaMani (talk) 17:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thats an easy fix, add the words "sister species" into the molecular dating section of the article, the term is uncontroversial. I agree that ALT1 should be discarded.--Kevmin §
- Since Wolverine XI proposed ALT1, shouldn't we wait with discarding this for them to comment and agree ? Though I proposed this to them initially, before I added ALT2. – BhagyaMani (talk) 19:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't receive those pings, because I had changed my username (quite surprised you guys didn't notice). Rest assured, nevertheless, that I should continue using this username throughout my tenure. So I've been keeping an eye on this DYK but recently I've been dealing with the worst kind of stress you can ever imagine, so I advise you all to choose something appropriate for this DYK without my involvement. I need some much needed time to heal 😞. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 04:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin and BhagyaMani: Better? Green flag, yellow flag or red flag? Just let me know. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 20:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't receive those pings, because I had changed my username (quite surprised you guys didn't notice). Rest assured, nevertheless, that I should continue using this username throughout my tenure. So I've been keeping an eye on this DYK but recently I've been dealing with the worst kind of stress you can ever imagine, so I advise you all to choose something appropriate for this DYK without my involvement. I need some much needed time to heal 😞. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 04:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Alt2 approved, with AGF on paywalled sourcing. no article or policy issues identified now and article appears stable. ook cited and sourced to references 11 and 44 respectively for first and second sections. Looks good to go.--Kevmin § 01:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: Not trying to bikeshed here, but wasn't the Alt2 part about "strongly associated with wetlands" found to be a component of the original concern over copyvio? The phrase "Fishing cats are strongly associated with wetlands" is present verbatim in the IUCN report. I was also thinking that "and preys foremost on fish" reads a little weird and might be replaced with something like "and has a diet which is about 75% fish" (substantiated by paragraph 2 of 'Behaviour and ecology') or "preys mostly on fish". Your guys' call since this has already been approved. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 06:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @TheTechnician27 and Kevmin: Hello everyone, I have taken into account the Technician's comment and I think that alt2 should be removed because of copyright issues. I kindly request Kevmin to reevaluate the choice to accept alt2. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 13:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Never mind guys. I re-worded the hook as suggested. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 13:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: Not trying to bikeshed here, but wasn't the Alt2 part about "strongly associated with wetlands" found to be a component of the original concern over copyvio? The phrase "Fishing cats are strongly associated with wetlands" is present verbatim in the IUCN report. I was also thinking that "and preys foremost on fish" reads a little weird and might be replaced with something like "and has a diet which is about 75% fish" (substantiated by paragraph 2 of 'Behaviour and ecology') or "preys mostly on fish". Your guys' call since this has already been approved. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 06:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- on the reworded Alt2 which still conforms to sourcing and is neutral in presentation.--Kevmin § 17:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Rich Romer
- ... that three-time Pizza Hut All-American Rich Romer later worked as an engineer?
- ALT1: ... that NFL player Rich Romer was a three-time Pizza Hut All-American? Source: Pizza Hut
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~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
- Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Great work on the article! Both hooks are interesting and verified as being sourced in the article. ALT0 relies on this source to say he worked as an engineer. According to the About Us page for the East Greenbush Education Foundation, "The East Greenbush Education Foundation, Inc. is an audited 501(c)(3) non-profit organization whose sole purpose is to raise funds to support student achievement. Founded in 1985 and located in East Greenbush, NY, the Foundation is governed by a volunteer Board of Directors." I think this is a marginally reliable source. If there are concerns that this source is insufficiently reliable, I recommend using ALT1 instead. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Waltiea Rolle
... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being discovered by a talent scout while walking home from school?
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... that after being discovered by a talent scout while walking home from school, Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13?Source: https://www.tribune242.com/news/2014/apr/09/waltiea-will-be-first-bahamian-to-play-in-wnba/ - ALT2:
... that Waltiea Rolle was the first Bahamian to play in the WNBA?Source: https://www.tribune242.com/news/2017/sep/25/waltiea-rolle-joins-turkish-womens-basketball/?news - ALT3: ... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being discovered by Olympic track and field medalist Frank Rutherford while walking home from school?
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... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being discovered by Olympic medalist Frank Rutherford while walking home from school??
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Overall: Would it be quirkier to replace "talent scout" for Rutherford with "Olympic track and field medalist" i.e. different sport, cachet of Olympics?[15] For ALT2, this is a bit better source that she became the first instead of relying on one anticipating that she "will" be be the first. —Bagumba (talk) 18:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Which of the alts should I revise? Do I just edit them directly or do I add an ALT3? Thanks, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:40, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm OK with the ALT0 format, which I assume was also your preferred one? Typically, in the spirit of WP:TALK#REPLIED, it's best to just create a new ALT, to avoid anyone looking at the discussion getting confused.—Bagumba (talk) 18:50, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9: The new ALTs needs to have Rutherford's medal background mentioned and sourced in the WP page as well (WP:DYKHOOK).—Bagumba (talk) 12:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ref added to Rutherford. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9: Sorry if it wasn't clear. Everything in the hook must be mentioned in prose and sourced in the bolded link i.e. Rolle's page, not Rutherford's page (though you can improve that too, it's just not required for DYK). The focus is on the bolded target.—Bagumba (talk) 17:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ref added to Rutherford. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 seems more interesting as it mentions Rutherford's background being in a different sport. If a backup is somehow needed, ALT2 also checked out.—Bagumba (talk) 05:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 18
[edit]2024 Kansas City metropolitan area rent strike
- ... that a rent strike in Missouri (pictured) is the first to ever target the United States federal government?
💽 LunaEclipse 💽 ⚧ 【=◈︿◈=】 00:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new and long enough. Article is well-sourced, neutral, and only pings on Earwigs for some long proper titles. Hook is cited, short enough, and interesting. QPQ has been completed. Image is freely licensed, clear at a diminished size, and used in the article. Morgan695 (talk) 15:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy
- ... that more than one hundred million stars are visible in Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy (pictured)?
- Source: Algar, Jim (2015-01-26). "Hubble Space Telescope Captures Full Glory of Andromeda Galaxy". Tech Times. Retrieved 2024-10-18., among others
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:00, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Approving. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:24, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Panhandle Gap
- ... that the day hike to Panhandle Gap (pictured) is very popular, being over 10 miles with 3,000 feet elevation gain?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tommy Wood (International Brigades)
- Comment: Don't bother to run this without a picture
(t · c) buidhe 04:49, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
- Beautiful photos here! It is new enough, long enough, the QPQ is good, the article is well-written and reliably sourced, and the photo is clear and attractive at this size. But I don't think there's anything unusual or interesting about this fact—that a hike is popular, long, and elevated is not that remarkable. I also tagged an issue with "Summerland" being referred to without introduction. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 07:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- If you've ever been to a national park, the crowds disappear within a few miles of the trailhead. Most people are not willing to hike 10+ miles (t · c) buidhe 14:12, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t think the remarkableness of this fact is apparent to people who don’t hike national parks. Can you propose some alternates?꧁Zanahary꧂ 16:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1... although rated "possibly the best day hike" in Mount Rainier National Park, you cannot see Rainier from Panhandle Gap (pictured)? (t · c) buidhe 23:41, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! ꧁Zanahary꧂ 00:48, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 19
[edit]Lockheed Martin FB-22
- ... that a bomber version of the F-22 Raptor called the FB-22 was once considered by the U.S. Air Force in the mid-2000s?
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Steve7c8 (talk) 02:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article recently passed GAR, is free from copyvio, no QPQ is required. The hook looks good for the main page. I fixed the image formatting within the nomination, but unfortunately this non-free image can't be used per WP:DYKIMG. Is there a free image that can be used in its place? ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 18:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- I went through the images within the article and noticed that they are also all non-free and that there is no Commons category for this version of the F-22. I don't see a way that the hook can be approved with an image unless we can track down some free images of the variant. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 18:54, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Correct, there are unfortunately no free images for this design, since it wasn't built, all accurate renditions of it are officially released images by Lockheed Martin to industry publications and Air Force Association symposiums. Can the hook be approved without an image? Steve7c8 (talk) 20:49, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Certainly. The hook is approved with the image omitted in line with my previous comment. Excellent work on the article! ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 23:53, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Mccunicano Did this nomination get approved? I noticed that it's still listed as pending, which seems to indicate that it's still under review. Steve7c8 (talk) 06:55, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Certainly. The hook is approved with the image omitted in line with my previous comment. Excellent work on the article! ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 23:53, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Correct, there are unfortunately no free images for this design, since it wasn't built, all accurate renditions of it are officially released images by Lockheed Martin to industry publications and Air Force Association symposiums. Can the hook be approved without an image? Steve7c8 (talk) 20:49, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- I went through the images within the article and noticed that they are also all non-free and that there is no Commons category for this version of the F-22. I don't see a way that the hook can be approved with an image unless we can track down some free images of the variant. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 18:54, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
John Green (basketball)
- ... that John Green was UCLA's leading scorer on the first of coach John Wooden's 12 Final Four teams?
- Source: "John Green, All American senior guard, was the team's high scorer with 559 points in 29 games, a 19.3 average." (The California Eagle) "At 6 feet 3, he started for the first of Wooden’s 12 NCAA Final Four teams." (Pioneer Press)
—Bagumba (talk) 20:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing. RecycledPixels (talk) 20:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- 1. New enough - Article created on the day of the nomination
- 2. Long enough - 4451 Readable prose size, not a stub
- 3. External policy compliance - . Well-sourced, neutral, and BLP-compliant. Spot checked sources 11, 19, 21, and 26 (11% of sources used) shows no copyvio or close paraphrasing
- 4. Presentable - No article improvement or citation needed tags.
- 5. Sourced - . Verified both sources provided, meets RS.
- 6. Hook short enough - Brief and to the point.
- 7. Hook interesting -
- 8. Images - - No image included for main page publication
- 9. QPQ - - Done.
- 10. Other - No problems.
- Overall: Pass. RecycledPixels (talk) 20:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
The Empire Brunei
- ... that the opening of The Empire Brunei hotel (pictured) was timed to help create capacity in Brunei for an APEC summit? Source: Brunei's Empire Hotel to open before APEC
CMD (talk) 08:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:59, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Shadia Abu Ghazaleh
- ... that Shadia Abu Ghazaleh returned to Palestine following the Israeli occupation of the West Bank, despite her family attempting to dissuade her? Source: Omar, Abdullah (March 2022). "Shadia Abu Ghazaleh 1949–1968". The Women who Made Palestinian History (PDF). London: Middle East Monitor. pp. 21–22. Retrieved 2 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Shadia Abu Ghazaleh was one of the first women to join the Palestinian resistance to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank? Source: Pappe, Ilan; Mansour, Johnny (2022). "Abu Gazaleh, Shadia (1949–1968)". Historical Dictionary of Palestine. Rowman & Littlefield. p. 31. ISBN 9781538119860.
- ALT2: ... that Leila Khaled adopted the name of Shadia Abu Ghazaleh as her nom de guerre? Source: Khalili, Laleh (2007). Heroes and Martyrs of Palestine: The Politics of National Commemoration. Cambridge University Press. p. 123. ISBN 978-0-521-86512-8.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Veylma Falaeo
Grnrchst (talk) 14:43, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: All three hooks were verified, but I prefer ALT1 as I believe it to be the most unique hook of the three. Yue🌙 19:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Feelie
- ... that feelies (example pictured) have been used for everything from copy protection to sexual roleplay?
- Source: copy protection: Rosenberg, Adam (18 February 2013). "Discussing the Emergent Silliness and Enduring Excellence of Infocom with Founder and Gaming Legend, Dave Lebling". Digital Trends. Archived from the original on 18 July 2013. Retrieved 19 October 2024.; erotic roleplay (potentially NSFW image at the relevant paragraph) Peters, Ian M. (2014). "Peril-Sensitive Sunglasses, Superheroes in Miniature, and Pink Polka-dot Boxers: Artifact and Collectible Video Game Feelies, Play, and the Paratextual Gaming Experience". Transformative Works and Cultures. 16. doi:10.3983/twc.2014.0509.
- ALT1: ... that the feelies shipped with The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy included a pin (pictured), a cotton ball, and a microscopic space fleet, but no tea? Source: Peters, Ian M. (2014). "Peril-Sensitive Sunglasses, Superheroes in Miniature, and Pink Polka-dot Boxers: Artifact and Collectible Video Game Feelies, Play, and the Paratextual Gaming Experience". Transformative Works and Cultures. 16. doi:10.3983/twc.2014.0509.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Qian Jin Bao
- Comment: Note that this was a redirect from 2016 through today. Even then, this would count as a 5x expansion over what existed before the article was turned into a redirect.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Looks good to me. Expansion is fine (this has nothing in common with the earlier collection of unverified trivia), the first hook is verified, I don't see any plagiarism, paragraphs are sourced, the image is properly licensed, etc. I like the first hook best. Drmies (talk) 01:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Qian Jin Bao
- ... that when French secret police raided Deng Xiaoping's hotel room in Billancourt, they encountered copies of the Moscow newspaper Qian Jin Bao (pictured)?
- Source: Alexander V. Pantsov, Steven I. Levine. Deng Xiaoping: A Revolutionary Life. Oxford University Press, 2015. pp. 34-35
Soman (talk) 21:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: New enough and long enough. Earwig is showing me 0%, which may be an error, but spotchecking I haven't found any issues. Image is sufficiently clear for what it is – one doesn't expect newspapers to show up well at 100px. Looks good to go! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 20
[edit]Głos Kolejarzy Ewakuowanych — Golos Evakuirovannykh Zheleznodorozhnikov
- ... that an organ of evacuated Polish railway workers called for unity with All-Russian trade unions around the time of the 1917 October Revolution?
- Source: Ludwik Bazylow, Jan Sobczak. Encyklopedia Rewolucji Październikowej. Wiedza Powszechna, 1987. p. 118
Soman (talk) 12:08, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Date, size, hook, neutrality, refs, copyvio spotcheck, QPQ - all in green. GTG. I just wonder whether a more interesting hook could be found, hmmm, maybe one based on the SDKPiL quote? @Soman: --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Harvey Tuckett
- ... that cavalry officer Harvey Tuckett retired from the British Army to become an actor, but was shot in a duel by his former commanding officer?
- Source: Siddons, J. H. "Thespic Reminiscences". Demorest's Illustrated Monthly. Vol. 15, no. 1. p. 143. [16]
AntientNestor (talk) 14:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The source used is quite difficult to read but appears to put together the events of Tuckett's life at this point as described. Just need to address the access dates issue (corrected): There are access dates in the article that predate the publishing of the article on Oct 20, was this copied from a sandbox, draft or external document? Reconrabbit 21:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Copy and paste from my sandbox here. Now fixed, but I only found one—did I miss some? Thanks.--AntientNestor (talk) 22:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good, that was it. Reconrabbit 22:15, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Reconrabbit: So can this get the "tick" for promotion?--AntientNestor (talk) 08:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Whoops, forgot about that parameter. Reconrabbit 12:29, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Reconrabbit: So can this get the "tick" for promotion?--AntientNestor (talk) 08:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good, that was it. Reconrabbit 22:15, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Dog
- ... that dogs (examples pictured) were domesticated from wolves over 14,000 years ago by hunter-gatherers, before the development of agriculture? Source: https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2010083118 https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(15)00432-7
ALT1: ... that humans have consumed dog (example pictured) meat for at least 14,000 years?Source: https://books.google.co.za/books?id=JwGZTQunH00C&pg=PA208&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false- Reviewed:
Wolverine XI (talk to me) 09:14, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Comments: ALT1 is going to make a lot of people upset. I should know, as I'm from South Korea, where dog meat is still eaten. BorgQueen (talk) 09:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- All the better for views if you ask me, but technically that hook would be about dog meat and thus it would fail WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE, so with regret I've struck it. ALT0 is available for review; might have a rummage for hooks myself. (Also, that image of 'a female dog nursing' is adorable.)--Launchballer 19:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Article received a GA review seven days before DYK nom, so it's new enough. It's definitely long enough, and I'm going to trust that the GA process addressed any potential concerns about sourcing. The hook is interesting, and the image is freely-licensed. QPQ is not required. Personally I think it would be nice to have an image comparing a dog to a wolf since the hook makes mention of both, but that's just my personal opinion. Overall, it seems good to go! Di (they-them) (talk) 12:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Now that I mention it, might I suggest this alt image? commons:File:Comparison of a wolf and a pug.png. Di (they-them) (talk) 12:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- That image is low-quality IMO, so no, not that one. I would instead prefer a husky since it looks somewhat similar to a wolf. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 12:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Now that I mention it, might I suggest this alt image? commons:File:Comparison of a wolf and a pug.png. Di (they-them) (talk) 12:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm doing a tick to make clear that this comment is not an objection, but just excerpts from the two sources verifying the hook fact. The earlier article says, "The researchers determined that dogs were probably domesticated from now-extinct wolves between 11,000 and 16,000 years ago — before humans began farming around 10,000 years ago.
"[17] and the more recent article pushes this timeline back further,[18] "Dogs were the first domesticated species and the only animal known to enter into a domestic relationship with people during the Pleistocene [...] dogs were domesticated in Siberia by 23,000 years ago, possibly while both people and wolves were isolated during the harsh climate of the Last Glacial Maximum. Dogs then accompanied the first people into the Americas and traveled with them as humans rapidly dispersed into the continent beginning 15,000 years ago [...] The earliest generally accepted dog dates to 15 ka (from the site of Bonn-Oberkassel, discussed below). However, claims for the existence of domestic dogs as early as 40 ka (22–28) have been made on the basis of morphological (22, 24–27), isotopic (22, 29), genetic (22, 28, 30), and contextual assessments (24, 31) of ancient canid remains. Yet, none of these potential domestication markers is fail-safe, owing to the fact that wolves and early domesticated dogs can be difficult to distinguish from each other.
" Rjjiii (talk) 00:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Feelie (Brave New World)
- ... that Aldous Huxley developed his "feelies" in response to the emergence of "talkies"?
- Source: Frost, Laura (2006). "Huxley's Feelies: The Cinema of Sensation in "Brave New World"". Twentieth Century Literature. 52 (4): 447. ISSN 0041-462X. "The "feelies," a cinema of titillating, pansensual stimulation, are clearly a response to the "talkies," as Huxley extends the innovation of synchronized sound to include all the senses."
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
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Articles created/expanded on October 21
[edit]Marcia Moore (actress)
- ... that despite her father wanting her to become a music teacher, Marcia Moore ran away to Chicago to star in silent film, vaudeville, cabaret, and burlesque performances?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Western Air Lines Flight 636
- Comment: Article was moved from draftspace to mainspace with this edit.
SilverserenC 18:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Very interesting! Good to go. Skyshiftertalk 20:09, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Xu Xinfu
- ... that Xu Xinfu adapted the fictional Chinese-American detective Charlie Chan for Chinese audiences?
- Source: "Charlie Chan in China". The Chinese Mirror: A Journal of Chinese Film History. May 2008. Archived from the original on 8 July 2011. Retrieved 18 April 2011.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:53, 21 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The article is interesting and well-sourced, but I highly recommend the promoter change the hook to "... that Xu Xinfu adapted the fictional Chinese-American detective Charlie Chan for Chinese audiences?" I think most readers will be unfamiliar with the character, as I myself was until I read both articles. Yue🌙 04:07, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Fair. I forget that I've been reading about 20s/30s cinema for a while, and that Charlie Chan isn't as well known to the average reader. Done. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:24, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 22
[edit]Al-Shaykh Badr
- ... that al-Shaykh Badr was the hometown of Salih al-Ali, who led the Alawite revolt against the French in Syria?
- Source: Winter, Stefan (2016). A History of the 'Alawis: From Medieval Aleppo to the Turkish Republic, p. 245
- Reviewed: Socialist Party of India (1955)
Al Ameer (talk) 17:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Al Ameer, review follows: article more than 5x expanded from 22 October; largely from a single, reliable source; other sources used look to be reliable also; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in article and checks out (as far as I can tell from my rudimentary French) to the source (albeit the online preview gave me a different page number, I am assuming you may be working from a printed copy?); happy to AGF there are no copyright violations (principal source is in French, others offline, Earwig check is fine); a QPQ has been carried out. My only query is with the "Climate" section, I wasn't sure how I verify the information in it, a search for "Al-Shaykh Badr" at the cited source of "Climate-data.org" doesn't yield anything - Dumelow (talk) 07:50, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: I removed the table altogether, it's relatively pointless and I also could not verify (I did not add the table). Al Ameer (talk) 18:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- That's fine - Dumelow (talk) 19:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Shunten
... that the myth of Shunten, the legendary first king of Chūzan, was used to justify the 1609 Invasion of Ryukyu?
- Source: Smits, Gregory (2019). Maritime Ryukyu, 1050–1650. Honolulu: University of Hawai'i Press. 154–155
- ALT1: ... that the myth of Shunten, the legendary first king of Chūzan, was used to justify the 1872 annexation of Okinawa?
- Source: Itō, Yūshi (2011). "The Legend of Minamoto no Tametomo: Controversy and Connections Between Ryūkyūan/Okinawan and Japanese Histories". In Edmond, Jacob; Johnson, Henry; Leckie, Jacqueline (eds.). Recentering Asia: Histories, Encounters, Identities. Leiden: Brill. doi:10.1163/9789004212619_006. ISBN 9781906876258., pp. 90–100.
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:57, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Generalissima, this article was an interesting read! Article long enough, well-sourced, copyvio-free, and presentable. This nomination is just within the 7 day deadline. QPQ done. Hook is interesting and sourced (offline accepted in good faith).
- I can't help but think a hook along the lines of: "... that the myth of Shunten, the legendary first king of Chūzan, was used to justify the 1872 annexation of Okinawa?" would be more interesting, if just because it shows how late this myth still had currency (I also suspect front page readers would be more familiar with Okinawa than Ryukyu). I'll leave it up to your judgement if you want to include such an alt. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 18:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421: That's actually a good point. I'll use the recommended alt hook, with Itō, Yūshi (2011). "The Legend of Minamoto no Tametomo: Controversy and Connections Between Ryūkyūan/Okinawan and Japanese Histories". In Edmond, Jacob; Johnson, Henry; Leckie, Jacqueline (eds.). Recentering Asia: Histories, Encounters, Identities. Leiden: Brill. doi:10.1163/9789004212619_006. ISBN 9781906876258., pp. 90–100 as the source. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nice, I've added the alt. Good to go. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Oun Yao-ling
- ... that the weightlifter Oun Yao-ling was asked to compete in the South African Games, but the opportunity was swiftly rescinded once the organisers found out he was Chinese?
- Source: Blutstein, Harry (2021). Games of Discontent: Protests, Boycotts, and Politics at the 1968 Mexico Olympics. Montreal: McGill–Queen's University Press. pp. 34–35. ISBN 978-0-2280-0675-6. Retrieved 2024-10-26 – via Google Books.
This source verifies that Oun Yao-ling is also known as Günter Wu. The book notes: "To assure the white population that South Africa was held in high regard by the sporting world, it was important to have a large contingent of international competitors at the Bloemfontein Games. To this end, nearly 100 invitations went out to foreign athletes; white athletes. There were, however, some embarrassing slip-ups. Inadvertently, the organisers invited German weightlifter Günter Wu, who was Chinese, and New Zealand runner Kevin Ross, who was Maori. Both invitations were promptly withdrawn when this unforgivable mistake was discovered. In the months running up to the South Africa Games, Brutus lobbied athletes, asking them not to participate."
- ALT1: ... that the weightlifter Oun Yao-ling was asked to compete in the South African Games, but the opportunity was swiftly rescinded once the organisers found out he was Chinese, not white? Source: Same source as the first hook.
- ALT2: ... that Oun Yao-ling, who did not speak Mandarin Chinese, represented Taiwan at the 1964 Summer Olympics? Source: Ji, Cheng-jin 吉承進 (1964-10-12). "項耀林 惡補國語 拜師鐵人" [Oun Yao-ling Intensifies Mandarin Studies with the Help of a Mentor]. United Daily News (in Chinese). p. 3.
This source verifies that he competed at the 1964 Summer Olympics. The article notes: "不會說國語的我國舉重選手項耀林,最近幾天困擾極了,因為每當隊伍集合時,他無法聽懂口令,常常有不知適從的感覺。"
From Google Translate: "Oun Yao-ling, a Taiwanese weightlifter who cannot speak Mandarin, has been extremely troubled in recent days because whenever the team gathers, he cannot understand the commands and often feels at a loss."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rich Romer
Cunard (talk) 07:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Recently expanded, long enough, solidly written. Verified by source, QPQ done. The article is good. I think ALT0 is the best, but ALT1 is perhaps clearer on why it was rescinded so maybe we should go with that. ALT2 is also very interesting, but I think slightly less than the first 2.
- Unrelated to DYK eligibility, but does any source say what language he spoke if it wasn't Mandarin? I am curious. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:31, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review, PARAKANYAA (talk · contribs)! I didn't find any sources that directly confirmed what language he spoke. But he was born in Germany in 1940, his mother is from Germany, he studied at the German university Stuttgart Technology University of Applied Sciences, and he was living in Germany in 1963 right before the 1964 Summer Olympics. So it is high likely that his native language is German. Cunard (talk) 09:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Gilbert Wilson (geologist)
- ... that geologist Gilbert Wilson declared his favourite expression was “I’m in love” in his McGill yearbook in 1924?
- Source: Source – Old McGill 1924 yearbook (https://yearbooks.mcgill.ca/viewbook.php?&campus=downtown&book_id=1924#page/101/mode/1up) 'Favourite expression "I'm in love"
- ALT1: ... that when geologist Gilbert Wilson went to school he was the fifth Wilson, so was known as "Quintus"? Source: Source – offline obituary '[he] went to school in Windermere where as one of five attending Wilsons he was known as Quintus' - source (ref 1) JGR and JC (1986). "Dr G Wilson (1899–1986)". Annual Report, Geological Society of London: 34–35
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Georgina Sutton
Chaiten1 (talk) 20:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hello Chaiten1, I'll have a look at this nomination and I'll post my review soon. One short initial observation: the last source (Who's Who) is unreliable and should be replaced, see Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources. Phlsph7 (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you - fixed! Chaiten1 (talk) 17:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Thanks for the adjustment. The article was created on 22 October 2024. It has a readable prose size of 6461 characters. Every paragraph is sourced. WP:EARWIG shows no copyvios. QPQ was done. The language of the article is neutral.
I'm not sure that the article should include the sentence with the quotes from the McGill yearbook since this sounds to me like trivia. Do comparable articles do that or do secondary sources discuss them? If the sentence is removed then we could not use the ALT0, which would leave us with ALT1. ALT1 is cited and interesting. I would make a slight grammatical adjustment:
ALT1a: ... that when geologist Gilbert Wilson went to school he was the fifth Wilson, so he was known as "Quintus"?
I think it would be better to move the section "Family" before the section "Awards and recognition" but this is optional. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you; good point about trivia, I will edit this and am very happy with ALT1a Chaiten1 (talk) 17:55, 27 October 2024 (UTC) All fixed now! Phlsph7 Chaiten1 (talk) 18:19, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good, approve ALT1a. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Helliwells Ltd
- ... that British aerospace engineering firm Helliwells Ltd (advertisement pictured) began as a maker of fireplace accessories?
- Source: "Helliwells Ltd was an engineering company, which was founded at Fountain Street, Dudley, in 1889 manufacturing fire irons and fire guards and the like" from: Smith, Ron (2004). British Built Aircraft: Central & Eastern England. Tempus. p. 204. ISBN 978-0-7524-3162-8.
- ALT1: ... that Helliwells Ltd (advertisement pictured) produced a motor scooter that was used by British police? Source: "Swallow 'Gadabout' motor scooter, 1948. The Swallow Coachbuilding Co. Ltd was bought in 1945 by the Helliwell Group, an aircraft servicing and repair company. They started to produce the Gadabout in 1946 ... was confirmed successful when adopted by public bodies including the Staffordshire Constabulary." from "Gadabout Motor Scooter". Science Museum Group Collection. Retrieved 10 October 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/James Smart (police officer)
Dumelow (talk) 20:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article moved to mainspace on same date as nomination. No issues with article writing, earwig & citations, and it is long enough. AGF on both hook sources. QPQ done. Good to go, nice work! B3251(talk) 03:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Henry Smith (moneylender)
- ... that a charity founded by Henry Smith (memorial pictured) in 1628 now has assets of over £1 billion?
- Source: "The Charity was founded in 1628 by Henry Smith, a businessman working in the City of London." from: "About Us". Henry Smith Charity. Retrieved 16 October 2024. and: net assets listed at Charity Commission for 2023 are £1.26 billion see: "The Henry Smith Charity - Charity 230102". Charity Commission. Retrieved 16 October 2024.
Dumelow (talk) 11:54, 22 October 2024 (UTC).
- Fascinating article. Long enough, well-written and recent enough. Hook is very nice and properly supported by an inline citation to a reliable source. QPQ is done and the image has the correct license tag. Should be good to go. Yakikaki (talk) 20:25, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Coincidentally, I realised I just did a QPQ by reviewing an article about a Smith so I can do my own nomination of an article about a Smith. Yakikaki (talk) 20:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Sack of Delhi (1757)
- ... that during the Afghan sacking of Delhi, over 30 to as high as 300 million rupees worth of goods were plundered?
- Source: Ahmad Shah Durrani: Father of Modern Afghanistan - Gandha Singh pg. 186
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- Other problems: - Can we say something like "between 30 and 300 million rupees"? The grammar is a little weird here.
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Overall: Let's clean up the hook, but otherwise good to go. Congrats on the GA.. ThaesOfereode (talk) 01:31, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
@ThaesOfereode: So, something like this; "that during the Afghan sacking of Delhi, between 30 and 300 million rupees worth of goods were plundered?" Noorullah (talk) 01:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Noorullah21: Yep, that works for me. Approved. ThaesOfereode (talk) 02:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 23
[edit]Rust Red Hills
- ... that Rust Red Hills is being sold to renovate student housing, a court-approved move that museum associations say violates the ethics of deaccessioning?
- Source: Boucher, Brian (September 4, 2024). "A Court Approves Valparaiso University’s Controversial Plan to Sell Paintings From Brauer Museum Collection". Artnet. News. Quote: "The Brauer Museum of Art at Indiana's Valparaiso University has been at the center of controversy for a year and a half, as the school has moved to sell three valuable artworks from the museum’s collection to fund improvements to freshman dormitories. The paintings, by Frederic Edwin Church, Childe Hassam, and Georgia O'Keeffe, have been valued in the area of $20 million. Now, the Porter County Superior Court has approved of the university's plan, according to a court order dated August 29...The plan to sell the works was met with an outcry from many in the university community, a lawsuit filed by namesake founding director Richard Brauer, and condemnation of the sale in a joint statement issued by the leadership of the Association of Art Museum Directors, the American Alliance of Museums, the Association of Academic Museums and Galleries, and the Association of Art Museum Curators. "This remains a fundamental ethical principle of the museum field, one which all institutions are obligated to respect: in no event shall funds from deaccessioned works be used for anything other than support for a museum's collections, either through acquisitions or the direct care of works of art".
- Another source: Cui, Liya (September 4, 2024). "Indiana Court Allows Valparaiso University to Sell O'Keeffe Painting". Reuters. Quote: "An Indiana judge has ruled that Valparaiso University can sell a Georgia O'Keeffe and two other paintings...The private Lutheran university in Indiana last February announced its intention to sell the most valuable paintings in its Brauer Museum of Art collection, estimated to be worth $20 million in total, to fund a dormitory renovation...When a museum sells its artwork to raise funds, the money is typically used to acquire, store or preserve other works, according to guidelines established by the Association of Art Museum Directors."
- Older source that was published before the court approval: "Richardson, Kalia (March 10, 2023). "Its Georgia O'Keeffe Is Worth Millions. And Its Dorms Need Updating". The New York Times. Quote: "Schools typically court controversy when they announce they will sell artworks to raise funds, an act known as deaccessioning. Several sales have resulted in sanctions from art associations....Valparaiso's desire to pay for work on the dorms with proceeds from the paintings has received pushback...Valparaiso's announcement alarmed art associations because of a long-held principle among museums: Revenue from deaccessioned pieces should be used to acquire new works, not for operating costs...Four art associations issued a joint statement condemning Valparaiso and the idea that the works in the Brauer's collection were "disposable financial assets." One of the groups, the Association of Art Museum Directors, also told the museum’s director, Jonathan Canning, that if the university proceeded with the sale, it would consider censuring and sanctioning the museum."
Viriditas (talk) 23:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
- the article certainly new enough, long enough, and very well-sourced. Nominator has also reviewed enough. The hook is short enough, and touches on an interesting and ongoing issue. Cardofk (talk) 17:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Carl Smith (canoeing)
- ... that a canoe (pictured) designed by Carl Smith accompanied a circumnavigation of Earth in 1883–1885? Source: Source (in Swedish)
- ALT1: ... that Carl Smith has been called the "father of Swedish canoe sporting"? Source: Most easily accessible here (in Swedish)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Henry Smith (moneylender)
Yakikaki (talk) 20:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
- Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 06:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- I verified that both ALT0 and ALT1 are sourced in the article. The image in ALT0 is verified as having been released under CC BY 4.0 and would be a good image for the lead image slot. Cunard (talk) 06:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Yan Ruisheng
- ... that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured) was China's first full-length feature film?
- Source: Xiao, Zhiwei (1998). "Chinese Cinema". In Zhang, Yingjin; Xiao, Zhiwei (eds.). Encyclopedia of Chinese Film. New York, London: Routledge. pp. 3–30. ISBN 978-0-415-15168-9., among many others
- ALT1: ... that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured), China's first full-length feature film, was banned within two years? Source: Xiao, Zhiwei (2013). "Policing Film in Early Twentieth-Century China". In Rojas, Carlos; Chow, Eileen (eds.). The Oxford Handbook of Chinese Cinemas. Oxford: Oxford University Press. pp. 452–471. doi:10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199765607.013.0025. ISBN 978-0-19-998331-5.
- ALT2: ... that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured), China's first full-length feature film, advertised its shooting in brothels? Source: Chen Jianhua (陈建华) (24 August 2021). 《阎瑞生》摄制与剧照之百年回观 [A Century-long Review of the Filming and Stills of "Yan Ruisheng"]. The Paper (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 22 October 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/George Frederick Cumming Smillie
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:00, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article looks good. Nice work. A minor point: @Crisco 1492: Is it appropriate to say in the hook that it was China's first full-length feature film
when the article seems to be a little less certain (Yan Ruisheng is commonly identified as the first Chinese-made full-length feature film
/ has been considered China's first full-length feature film
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- Hi BeanieFan11. That's me hedging my bets, because I distrust "first" claims even when multiple sources say "is", explicitly. I've changed the article to say "is". — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:27, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Probably fine then. Though, if you're not completely certain you could change the hook to something like e.g. "that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured) is considered China's first full-length feature film?" or "that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured), considered China's first full-length feature film, was banned within two years? BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah... only the sources don't have that level of uncertainty. I should have just gone with "is" from the get-go. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:37, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Probably fine then. Though, if you're not completely certain you could change the hook to something like e.g. "that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured) is considered China's first full-length feature film?" or "that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured), considered China's first full-length feature film, was banned within two years? BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Castle Knob
- ... that the mediaeval Castle Knob in Derbyshire, England, was the site of a Cold War nuclear monitoring station?
- Source: Date of foundation is unknown but likely 12th century and certainly before 14th century: "there is no documentary record for this site before the fourteenth century, and the date of construction is unknown. Nevertheless, from the present remains it appears to have been a motte-and-bailey construction and would be consistent with those constructed during King Stephen's reign" from: Boston, Hannah (2024). Lordship and Locality in the Long Twelfth Century. Boydell & Brewer. p. 82. ISBN 978-1-78327-783-4. and " Excluded from the scheduling are all perimeter fencing, the sheds and stable within the area of the north bailey, and the underground MOD installation in the central bailey although the ground beneath all these features except the MOD installation is included." from: "Castle Gresley motte and bailey castle, Castle Gresley - 1011209". Historic England. Retrieved 18 October 2024.; the plaque on the site makes it clear this is a Royal Observer Corps monitoring post
- ALT1: ... that a settlement in Derbyshire, England, is named after a Knob? Source: "The Gresleys, more unusually, seem to have built a castle at their caput. The name is preserved in the current name of Castle Gresley, and in a mound, still approximately 20 feet high, known locally as Castle Knob, that lies about a mile from the remains of Gresley Priory" from: Boston, Hannah (2024). Lordship and Locality in the Long Twelfth Century. Boydell & Brewer. p. 82. ISBN 978-1-78327-783-4. see also the plaque on the site
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jabulani Mabuza
- Comment: There is probably some fun to be had with hooks around a "4m-high Knob" or similar but beyond me at the moment
Dumelow (talk) 13:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 15:34, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 24
[edit]Shuah Khan
- ... that Shuah Khan became the first female Linux Foundation Fellow in 2019, joining Linus Torvalds and Greg Kroah-Hartman?
- ALT1: ... that Shuah Khan was the first woman fellow of the Linux Foundation and "signed off" on a patch recommending inclusive terminology in the Linux kernel?
- Sources: https://www.zdnet.com/article/shuah-khan-becomes-the-third-linux-foundation-fellow/ + https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/7/7/9
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ontology
paul2520 💬 13:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review. Just noting that you could use the new image for a hook image if you like. Bremps... 07:02, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: I added the photo to the DYK template as per the suggestion above. The QPQ was done by nominator paul2520. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
1939 Liechtenstein general election
- ... that in the 1939 Liechtenstein general election, no actual voting took place?
TheBritinator (talk) 15:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Always nice to see small countries like Liechtenstein get decent coverage. Article looks good as a newly-promoted GA. AGF on the hook source. Appears good to go! BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 25
[edit]Every Night (Hannah Diamond song)
- ... that "Every Night", released ten years ago today, was called "the smartest dumb music out there"?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marcia Moore (actress)
- Comment: For November 24, 2024, if possible.
Skyshiftertalk 19:34, 27 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Great hook! Might be a good candidate for the last/quirky hook. Article is well-sourced with online references; I verified the claim in the hook. Prose is neutral and well-worded; Earwig shows no copyvio. If I had to offer a minor critique, there's a bit of redundancy in the first paragraph of the Composition section: described
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three times, and said
two times after that, to attribute critic opinions. Perhaps the word choice could be varied a bit (eg using "called it", "labeled it", or "noted its production was similar to"). Nonetheless, the article is certainly DYK level already even without those edits! Frostly (talk) 07:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Interstate 59 in Alabama
- ... that in 2018, the I-59 and I-65 interchange in Birmingham, Alabama (Malfunction Junction) carried 160,000 vehicles instead of 80,000 as it was intended to hold?
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NoobThreePointOh (talk) 13:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
- Length, date, hook ok. No QPQ needed. Close paraphrase not found. Ideally "Malfunction Junction" should carry quotation marks. --Soman (talk) 10:01, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Soman. I've added quotation marks to the title of that paragraph in the article. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 18:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Lily Golden
- ... that Soviet academic Lily Golden, born to an interracial couple from the United States but unable to return there due to racism, finally reunited with her relatives there in the 1980s? Source: Bertha Golden and Lily had planned to return to United States, but due to World War II and Bertha’s lingering fears of racism in the United States, they never left Uzbekistan. + "I am very happy, not only because this is the first time I met some of the Goldens and Bialeks, but because I think this is very historical for blacks and Jews to meet like this," said Golden
- ALT1: ... that Soviet academic Lily Golden researched Abkhazians of African descent and contemporary Black music despite her academic research being ideologically controlled? Source: Every effort was made to direct Golden's scholarship into proper ideological channels and to frustrate her dissertation on the cultural contributions of African music ... she found avenues and loopholes by which she could conduct independent research on the little-known native black population of Abkhazia as well as on officially disapproved forms of modern black music.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chiu Yuh-chuan
- Comments: While someone else moved this to mainspace, it was only because I submitted it myself in AFC, so I'm naming myself as the mover.
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Overall: This does have promise. It's new, of sufficient length, neutral, and well-sourced without plagiarism. However, I do feel the hooks could be rewritten to be clearer and more concise to be more interesting to a broad audience. Lazman321 (talk) 21:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Lazman321: I added what should be enough clarity, but this is the clearest and shortest I could do without losing their hookiness.
- ALT0A: ... that Soviet academic Lily Golden, born to an interracial couple from the United States, finally reunited with her relatives there decades after being unable to return due to racism? Source: Same as ALT0
- ALT0B: ... that academic Lily Golden, born to an American interracial couple, finally reunited with her American relatives decades after being unable to leave the Soviet Union due to racism? Source: Same as ALT0
- ALT1A: ... that Lily Golden researched "officially disapproved" genres of contemporary Black music despite ideological restrictions to her research in the Soviet Union? Source: Same as ALT1
- ALT1B: ... that Lily Golden researched contemporary Black music despite ideological restrictions to her research in the Soviet Union? Source: Same as ALT1
- ALT1C: ... that Soviet academic Lily Golden researched "officially disapproved" genres of contemporary Black music despite ideological restrictions to her research? Source: Same as ALT1
- ALT1D: ... that Soviet academic Lily Golden researched contemporary Black music despite ideological restrictions to her research? Source: Same as ALT1
- Hope that help, ミラP@Miraclepine 23:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'm in favor of ALT0B and ALT1C. Lazman321 (talk) 01:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Light Vessel 95
- ... that Light Vessel 95 is now a recording studio?
- Source: "A stunning lightship called Lightship 95 moored next to the lighthouse since 2013 is now a floating recording studio. Artists including Lana Del Ray, Ed Sheeran, and Bastille have recorded here." from: Elvery, Martin (19 March 2023). "London's 'forgotten' lighthouse where one song will play on repeat until 2999". My London. Retrieved 22 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Ed Sheeran, Lana Del Ray and Bastille have all recorded aboard Light Vessel 95? Source: as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/National Gingerbread House Competition
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Overall: Looks great, both hooks equally interesting in my book. ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 21:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Symonds St Public Conveniences and Former Tram Shelter
- ... that the first standalone women's toilets (pictured) in Auckland, New Zealand, were converted into being a male-only facility during the Second World War?
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TarnishedPathtalk 14:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
- TarnishedPath Article looks good and no copyvios. QPQ not needed. Image free. Although the hook should be changed to "Auckland, New Zealand," to comply with MOS:GEOLINK. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:46, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Panamitsu, I've made the change to the hook. TarnishedPathtalk 23:39, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Herbert Smith (mineralogist)
- ... that in 1927, museum administrator Herbert Smith hired a special train so that civil servants could watch a total solar eclipse in North Yorkshire?
- Source: [19] ‘he arranged a special train to take members (of the society of civil servants) and other civil servants to Richmond, Yorkshire, to view the total eclipse of the sun in 1927’
- ALT1: ... that gemmologist Herbert Smith had two minerals and a wallaby named after him? Source: Sources – herbertsmithite [20] 'named for GF Herbert Smith' smithite - [21] 'named for G F Herbert Smith] Herbert’s rock-wallaby (Petrogale herberti Thomas, O. 1926. On various animals obtained during Capt. Wilkin's expedition in Australia. Annals and Magazine of Natural History 9 17: 627 [June 1926]) ‘named in honour of G.F. Herbert Smith Assistant Secretary of the Museum’ (offline reference)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/E-Defense
Chaiten1 (talk) 21:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Chaiten1, review follows: article more than 5x expanded from 25 October and is well written; sources used are good with inline citations throughout; I didn't pick up any issues with overly close paraphrasing; hooks are interesting and largely check out to sources cited (I don't have access to the wallaby one but it is verifiable elsewhere eg here, the national archives link isn't working for me at the moment but I have supplemented it in the article with the Nature ref you've provided here); a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me. This is a solid traditional encyclopaedia article, really nice to see - Dumelow (talk) 08:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Hotel Marseilles
- ... that some occupants of New York City's Hotel Marseilles had never had a private room before staying there? Source: Helmreich, William B. (July 5, 2017). Against All Odds. Routledge. p. 31
- ALT1: ... that for some Holocaust survivors, their first-ever private room was at New York City's Hotel Marseilles? Source: Helmreich, William B. (July 5, 2017). Against All Odds. Routledge. p. 31
- ALT2: ... that New York City's Hotel Marseilles, once a shelter for Holocaust survivors, later became affordable housing for the elderly? Source: Director, Roger (June 8, 1981). "Budget cuts may give her new life an old ending". New York Daily News. p. 65
- ALT3: ... that New York City's Hotel Marseilles, once home to Sara Roosevelt and Dorothy Parker, later became a refugee shelter and affordable housing for the elderly? Source: Silverstein, Andrew (August 3, 2023). "just like Jewish refugees did after WWII". The Forward
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KIXE-TV
- Comment: I can come up with more hooks later.
Epicgenius (talk) 15:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting building and history, on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Before going for GA perhaps check for repetitions (the building, also). The image is licensed and a great illustration! None of the hooks is impossible. I prefer ALT2, but I think the "later" serves little purpose ;) - The "private rooms" of the first two are said by one writer to be for "some", - that's a bit too weak for my taste. I think "Holocaust" will create more interest than the specific people of ALT3. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 26
[edit]GeoNet (New Zealand)
- Source: https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/11-10-2024/whos-the-aucklander-who-claims-to-feel-every-earthquake-in-new-zealand -- it says "certain appendage"
―Panamitsu (talk) 03:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC).
- Length, date, qpq, close paraphrase check ok. But is there a possibility for a second reference for the hook fact? The notion that 'certain appendage' is to be understood as a dick requires a bit of reading between the lines, but the ref also talks about this as an one-off incident. --Soman (talk) 11:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm okay. I've had a look for another source but couldn't find one. Does this mean that I have to find another fact? I've at least changed the plurality of the hook to address that concern.
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- ―Panamitsu (talk) 21:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- But still, we have one source saying that maybe someone once drew a dick using the platform. Unless there is another ref indicating that the trolling of the site would be a phenomenon, I'd suggest that another factoid be used for ALT hook. --Soman (talk) 15:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Soman: Oh I'm getting confused. I'm not sure if you want me to change the pluralisation, or find a new fact. I'll do both.
- ALT2:
- "... that someone has tried drawing a phallus on the earthquake monitoring website GeoNet?"
- ALT3:
- "... that Aucklanders have a reputation for making false earthquake reports on New Zealand's earthquake monitoring website GeoNet?"
- Source: https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/11-10-2024/whos-the-aucklander-who-claims-to-feel-every-earthquake-in-new-zealand
- ―Panamitsu (talk) 06:02, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Many thanks, apologies for the inconvenience. I'm ok with ALT3. --Soman (talk) 09:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- But still, we have one source saying that maybe someone once drew a dick using the platform. Unless there is another ref indicating that the trolling of the site would be a phenomenon, I'd suggest that another factoid be used for ALT hook. --Soman (talk) 15:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Chiu Yuh-chuan
- ... that future Olympic weightlifter Chiu Yuh-chuan received a job offer in marketing after media coverage about his difficulty securing employment?
- Source: "舉重國手邱毓川失業 北市一公司願提供工作機會" [Weightlifting Champion Chiu Yuh-chuan Unemployed: A Company in Taipei Offers Job Opportunity]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). 1984-07-11. p. 10.
The above source was published on 11 July 1984. Chiu Yuh-chuan competed in the 1984 Summer Olympics, which took place between 28 July and 12 August 1984. The article notes:
From Google Translate:屏東縣唯一入選一九八四年奧運國家代表隊的舉重國手邱毓川,五次打破全國紀錄獲頒多面中正體育獎章,但自省立體專畢業迄今一年多卻苦於一職難求,經報導後,台北市慶宜股份有限公司深表同情,昨日特打長途電話到本報屏東採訪辦事處,表示願主動提供工作機會,解決邱毓川就職問題,熱忱感人。
台北市慶宜貿易有限公司進口科長李聰哲在電話中表示,該公司經營多種商品貿易,為一頗具規模公司,因閱報獲知舉重國手邱毓川一職難求困境,基於為國家培育選手立場,願提供推廣企劃工作機會,除每月待遇一萬八千元左右外,并有業績獎金制度,只要邱毓川願意屈就,該公司竭誠歡迎。
Chiu Yuh-chuan, the only national weightlifter from Pingtung County to be selected for the 1984 Olympics national team, broke national records five times and was awarded multiple Chiang Kai-shek Sports Medals. However, it has been more than a year since he graduated from the provincial three-dimensional college and he has been struggling to find a job. After reports, Taipei City Qingyi Co., Ltd. expresses its deep sympathy. Yesterday, it made a long-distance call to the Pingtung office of this newspaper to interview and expressed its willingness to proactively provide job opportunities to solve Chiu Yuh-chuan's employment problem. The enthusiasm was touching.
Li Congzhe, the import section chief of Taipei City Qingyi Trading Co., Ltd., said on the phone that the company is engaged in the trade of a variety of commodities and is a large-scale company. After reading the newspaper, he learned that the national weightlifter Chiu Yuh-chuan was in a difficult position. Based on the stance of cultivating athletes for the country, The company is willing to provide marketing and planning work opportunities. In addition to a monthly salary of about 18,000 yuan, there is also a performance bonus system. As long as Chiu Yuh-chuan is willing to give in, the company wholeheartedly welcomes him.
Cunard (talk) 07:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 14:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Expanded day before DYK, from 138 to 5600, and article is up to snuff. All the sources but SR are offline so I'll AGF; that reminds me... Cunard, kudos to you for expanding a PRODed stub with sourcing that can't be reached easily. I recommend fixing the lede by blending in the info about his Olympic career so that it looks less like the cookie-cutter stub it originally was or adding an ALT1 showing that he was still looking for work post-Olympics even after the pre-Olympics job offer, but consider this optional. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:08, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Amalric of Nesle
- ... that Patriarch Amalric was snubbed at the royal court because of his role in a royal divorce (pictured)?
- Source: Hamilton (1980) p. 76
- ALT1: ... that Patriarch Amalric was, according to the archbishop of Tyre, "reasonably well educated but bereft of intelligence and virtually useless"? Source: Hamilton (1980) p. 78
- ALT2: ... that "no other Latin patriarch had ruled for so long" as Amalric of Nesle and yet "no other had made so little contribution"? Source: Hamilton (1980) p. 78
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The United States of America (album)
Surtsicna (talk) 22:44, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Surtsicna, review follows: article well in excess of 5x expanded from 27 October; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable offline sources; happy to AGF there are no copyright violations from these sources, the Earwig check is fine; hooks check out to the source cited (from Google Preview at least), for ALT0 I have amended "divorce" to "annulment of a royal marriage" as there is a difference; a QPQ has been carried out. Image needs a US PD copyright tag but is undoubtedly in the public domain, if you can address this and check you are happy with the amendment to ALT0 I should be able to approve - Dumelow (talk) 08:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Tag added! I am not quite happy with the amendment, Dumelow, because it does not flow or catch attention nearly as well as "royal divorce"; and while divorce and annulment are different things in modern law, in the Middle Ages the annulment was the divorce, and indeed historians of the Middle Ages use the terms interchangeably, "divorce" even more commonly. See the source for this hook, for example. Surtsicna (talk) 18:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Surtsicna. Fair enough, thanks for the explanation. I have returned ALT0 to its original wording and am happy to leave the final decision up to the promoter - Dumelow (talk) 19:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Tag added! I am not quite happy with the amendment, Dumelow, because it does not flow or catch attention nearly as well as "royal divorce"; and while divorce and annulment are different things in modern law, in the Middle Ages the annulment was the divorce, and indeed historians of the Middle Ages use the terms interchangeably, "divorce" even more commonly. See the source for this hook, for example. Surtsicna (talk) 18:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Edmonds (brand)
- ... that during World War II, housewives were encouraged to keep Edmonds baking powder tins to be used as bombs in case New Zealand was invaded?
- Source: https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/350013000/edmonds-rise-and-fall-family-factory "During World War II, the Home Guard advised housewives to keep baking powder tins as they could be repurposed as bombs in case of invasion."
―Panamitsu (talk) 23:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Panamitsu, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 27 October and exceeds minimum length; sources used look to be reliable for the content cited and inline citations are used throughout; I didn't pick up any issues with overly close paraphrasing in a spot check; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 08:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Zhou Houkun
- ... that Zhou Houkun (pictured) wrote a thesis on the use of bamboo to reinforce concrete?
- Source: [22]
Kimikel (talk) 00:15, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 05:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
The Crystal (tabloid)
- ... that The Crystal was one of few publications in early 20th-century China to regularly cover same-sex intimacy?
- Source: Kang, Wenqing (2006). Male Same-Sex Relations in China, 1900–1950 (PhD thesis). University of California, Santa Cruz. p. 169. ProQuest 305350088. "In China during the first half of the twentieth century, many newspapers circulated in big cities, but only Crystal in Shanghai and Heavenly Wind in Tianjin regularly had discussions and stories about same-sex relations. "
- ALT1: ... that The Crystal contained regular coverage of Shanghai's courtesans? Source: Hershatter, Gail (1999). Dangerous Pleasures: Prostitution and Modernity in Twentieth-Century Shanghai. Berkeley: University of California Press. p. 17. ISBN 978-0-520-20439-3. "Perhaps the most famous of the tabloids was Crystal (in Chinese, jingbao), published every three days beginning in 1919 for more than two decades. Crystal overlapped with the guidebooks in content, but devoted a great deal of column space to tracking relationships between courtesans and the city’s elite, as well as personality quirks and quarrels among courtesans, business successes or reversals, reminiscences about famous courtesans of earlier times, and lists of courtesan-house names and phone numbers."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tore Skeie
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Articles created/expanded on October 28
[edit]Taurus 09
- ... that Taurus 09 (exercise pictured) was the largest Royal Navy deployment in more than ten years?
- Source: "Joining Alpha Company, 40 Commando Royal Marines, he took part in numerous exercises, most notably TAURUS 09, the largest Royal Naval deployment in over 10 years," from: "Marine Scott Gregory Taylor killed in Afghanistan". British Government. Retrieved 9 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Royal Navy's Taurus 09 deployment (exercise pictured) was featured in the TV series Warship? Source: "Visitors included the former and present First Sea Lords, Admiral Band and Stanhope respectively, a film crew from Granada TV producing the next series of Warship for channel 5" from: "A new experience for so many of us". Navy News. September 2009. p. 4.
- ALT2: ... that as part of the Royal Navy's Taurus 09 deployment sailors from HMS Somerset rowed the length of the Suez Canal? Source: "on the way home through Suez, 81 Somerset officers and sailors 'rowed' the canal, each one rowing two kilometres as quickly as they could, achieving the distance in a total of 10 hours 40 minutes" from: "A new experience for so many of us". Navy News. September 2009. p. 4.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Herbert Smith (mineralogist)
Dumelow (talk) 12:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- The article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral, hook interesting and cited to a reliable source. QPQ done as required. No copyvio issues. Image is relevant, used in the article, is freely licensed, and is clear at a diminished size. JuniperChill (talk) 23:18, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Trilobite Wilderness
- ... that the Trilobite Wilderness is so rich in trilobite fossils that in places virtually every rock contains a fossil?
- Source: "Latham Shale - California Dreamin'". American Museum of Natural History. Archived from the original on 14 April 2024.
- ALT1: ... that parts of the Mojave Desert are so rich in trilobite fossils that the Trilobite Wilderness was named after them? Source: "Trilobite Wilderness | Bureau of Land Management". www.blm.gov. Retrieved 2024-10-28.
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- Comment: I recently created this article and I think the whimsical name and paleontological significance make it a good contender for a DYK
Blervis (talk) 04:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
- This is a newly created article, which is well referenced, long enough and passes copyvio. The hooks check out; ALT0 is intriguing, to the point and validated by the source (AMNH). QPQ is not required. The image is appropriate and has the correct permissions. This is a nice self-contained page, and I shall add it my bucket list of places to visit! Chaiten1 (talk) 15:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
KEXC
- ... that a San Francisco–area radio station sometimes had to be quiet to not disturb patients of a nearby dentist's office? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-san-francisco-examiner-kjaz/138078436/
- ALT1: ... that a San Francisco–area radio station was almost bought by a front company for Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/oakland-tribune-sf-firm-tried-to-buy-k/138077322/
- ALT2: ... that a San Francisco–area radio station charged one of its competitors with vandalizing its studios and following its employees around? Source: http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/fighting-the-power/Content?oid=1075454&showFullText=true
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hixtape: Vol. 3: Difftape
- Comment: This station is chock-full of potential hooks!
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hooks are interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Great work!! Thriley (talk) 20:01, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Nayib Bukele
- ... that during the presidency of Nayib Bukele (pictured), El Salvador became the first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender?
- Source: Pérez, Santiago; Ostroff, Caitlin (7 September 2021). "El Salvador Becomes First Country to Adopt Bitcoin as National Currency". The Wall Street Journal. San Salvador, El Salvador.
- ALT1: ... that Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele (pictured) has referred to himself as the "coolest dictator in the world" on Twitter? Source: Youkee, Mat (26 September 2021). "Nayib Bukele Calls Himself the 'World's Coolest Dictator' – But Is He Joking?". The Guardian. San Salvador, El Salvador. ISSN 0029-7712.
- ALT2: ... that Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele (pictured) is of Palestinian descent? Source: Ahren, Raphael (7 February 2019). "His Dad was an Imam, His Wife has Jewish Roots: Meet El Salvador's New Leader". The Times of Israel.
- ALT3: ... that Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele (pictured) supports reunifying Central America? Source: "Nayib Bukele: "Centroamérica Debería Ser Un Solo País"" [Nayib Bukele: "Central America Should Be One Single Country"]. Contra Punto (in Spanish). 4 January 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Francis L. Sampson
PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 09:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- That's quite the GA – good job. Review to come. charlotte 👸♥ 05:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nominated the day it was GAed, certainly long enough, copyvio checks return fine. All hooks are cited and interesting (Times of Israel is no consensus, but probably fine for this info), although I think ALT1 is the most interesting. Image has VRT and QPQ done. charlotte 👸♥ 20:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Wu Tsai-fu
- ... that the weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu was unable to generate urine for a drug test so drank six huge glasses of beer to help him urinate?
- Source: "世界杯舉重賽花絮 吳再富灌酒逼尿 大醉一場" [Highlights from the Weightlifting World Cup: Wu Tsai-fu Forced to Drink Beer to Urinate, Ends Up Drunk]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). 1991-10-05. p. 2.
The article notes:
From a translation:驗尿也會酒醉?信不信由你,這次世界杯,只要成績還可以,尤其是男選手,一達到明年巴塞隆納奧運選拔標準,鐵定被「點名」接受禁藥測試,採取的方法就是「驗尿」。
中華隊第4級選手吳再富,出賽當天挺舉未完,就被通知驗尿,不知是緊張?還是排汗旺盛,怎麼尿也尿不出來,無法交差。
最後逼得沒辦法,只有強灌啤酒,向來不喝酒的吳再富這下可吃足了苦頭,在連續喝下6大杯後才排尿,大功告成之餘,他人也醉了,必須勞動隊友攙扶,才能回到選手村。
Can you be drunk during a urine test? Believe it or not, at this World Cup, as long as the performance is acceptable—especially for male athletes—if they meet the qualification standards for next year’s Barcelona Olympics, they are guaranteed to be "called in" for drug testing, which involves urine tests.
On the day of the competition, Wu Tsai-fu, a Level 4 athlete from the Chinese team, was notified to take a urine test even before finishing his lifts. Whether it was nerves or excessive sweating, he found himself unable to produce any urine.
In the end, with no other options, he had to resort to drinking beer. Not typically a drinker, Wu suffered significantly, and after downing six large glasses, he finally managed to urinate. However, he ended up drunk and had to rely on teammates to help him back to the athletes' village.
- ALT1: ... that the weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu drank six huge glasses of beer to help himself urinate for a drug test? Source: Same as the first hook.
- ALT2: ... that the weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu set nearly 20 national records? Source: He, Chang-fa 何長發 (1997-07-14). "大雞慢啼 吳再富揚州償宿願" [Late Bloomer: Wu Tsai-fu Fulfills His Dream in Yangzhou]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). p. 2.
The article notes: "吳再富十四歲首次參加舉重賽以來,先後打破全國紀錄將近二十次,但在亞洲大賽奪牌這還是第一次,算是「大雞慢啼」的老選手。"
From a translation: "Wu Tsai-fu has broken national records nearly twenty times since he first participated in a weightlifting competition at the age of fourteen, but this is the first time he has won a medal in an Asian competition, and he can be regarded as a veteran player of "Late Bloomer"."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zhou Houkun
Cunard (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC).
- Page was 5x expanded recently enough, is long enough, the hook is interesting and quite funny, and QPQ has been done. I think that ALT1 is preferable because it's more concise. I'm going to AGF on the Chinese sourcing. Overall, seems good! Di (they-them) (talk) 23:22, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note, I have edited ALT1 slightly to fix a grammar mistake, it was "generate urinate" so I changed it to just "urinate". Di (they-them) (talk) 23:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 29
[edit]Peel's Cut
- ... that Peel's Cut was dug by the grandfather of British prime minister Robert Peel?
- Source: "Peel's grandfather, Robert Peel (1723-1795), was a dealer in the Lancashire linen and cotton trade" from: Gaunt, Richard (7 July 2022). Sir Robert Peel: Contemporary Perspectives. Taylor & Francis. pp. 8–11. ISBN 978-1-315-40068-6. and " In the earlier 1780s Robert Peel dug a cut from the west bank of the river near the Branston boundary to power a cotton mill he had opened at Bond End. (fn. 1a) Known as Peel's Cut, it survived until the late 1960s when it was filled in, along with most of the channels which had created the islands in the river." from: "Burton-upon-Trent: Communications A History of the County of Stafford: Volume 9, Burton-Upon-Trent". British History Online. Retrieved 28 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Peel's Cut watercourse in Staffordshire, England, lasted more than 100 years longer than the mill it was excavated to power? Source: As above for date of creation and filling, plus: "Bond End Mill last made cotton in 1849." from: Brook, Fred (1977). The Industrial Archaeology of the British Isles. Batsford. p. 101. ISBN 978-0-7134-0924-6.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edmonds (brand)
Dumelow (talk) 17:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: I updated the caption in the article to clarify the direction. You need to add the reference to the end of Alt1's sentance. I prefer Alt1 to Alt0. Used Earwig with no issues. Otherwise looked good! dm (talk) 01:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi dm, sorry I missed this while I was away. I have duplicated the ref to the sentence in the article talking about the closure of the mill for ALT1 - Dumelow (talk) 16:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Dumelow - thanks for updating. I've cleared all the objections - looks like you're good to go. dm (talk) 05:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi dm, sorry I missed this while I was away. I have duplicated the ref to the sentence in the article talking about the closure of the mill for ALT1 - Dumelow (talk) 16:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Sheetz–Wawa rivalry
- ... that Pennsylvania lieutenant governor John Fetterman and Congressman Brendan Boyle staged a debate over their favorite gas station chain?
- Source: "In 2020, noted Sheetz freak Sen. John Fetterman (then the state’s lieutenant governor) and U.S. Rep. Brendan Boyle, an ardent Wawa fan, penned op-eds for The Inquirer debating the merits of each chain. In 2021, they participated in a Wawa vs. Sheetz debate on Zoom hosted by City & State Pennsylvania." Philadelphia Inquirer
- ALT1: ... that at the 2024 Democratic National Convention, vice presidential nominee Tim Walz was booed for visiting the "wrong" Pennsylvanian gas station chain? Source: "During a Democratic National Convention breakfast with Pennsylvania delegates, Walz mentioned visiting Sheetz while campaigning Sunday. That drew some lighthearted boos from Wawa loyalists." Delaware Online
ALT2: ... that Johnny Knoxville and Bam Margera both have tattoos of their favorite Pennsylvanian gas station chain?Source: "MTV's Jackass actor and stuntman Johnny Knoxville sports a Wawa tattoo, and so does skateboarder Bam Margera." Adweek (paywalled)- Reviewed:
- Comment: First two hooks are WP:DYKELECT until November 7, 2024.
Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 00:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
- @Dan Leonard: This fun article is long enough, new enough, well-sourced, and presentable. All three hooks are sourced, however I think ALT2 might be outright false. Knoxville certainly has a Wawa tattoo on his bicep (per this primary source, among others), but the only other source referring to Margera's (PhillyMag) cites a joint interview of Margera and Knoxville and says "It’s right above a tattoo of Leon Spinks", which is exactly where Knoxville has his. So unless they have otherwise unattested matching tattoos, the authors of that AdWeek article probably have it wrong. To be careful about BLP, I'll remove it as a hook and from the article. The other two hooks are both interesting, but I think ALT1 has the widest appeal. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:49, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
God of Amiens
- ... that the God of Amiens (head pictured) has a protruding animal ear?
- Source: Mahéo, Noël (1990). "136. Statuette d'une divinité à l'oreille de cervidé". In Viéville, Dominic (ed.). Les collections archéologiques du musée de Picardie. Vol. 1. Amiens: Trois Cailloux. p. 236. ISBN 978-2-402-42576-6.
- ALT1: ... that the God of Amiens (head pictured) seems to have lost his serpent? Source: Mahéo, Noël (1990). "136. Statuette d'une divinité à l'oreille de cervidé". In Viéville, Dominic (ed.). Les collections archéologiques du musée de Picardie. Vol. 1. Amiens: Trois Cailloux. p. 236. ISBN 978-2-402-42576-6.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shunten
- Comment: ALT1 is fun, but you might rightly reject it since it relies on a reconstruction, put forth by Lerat, of the statuette as once holding a serpent and grapes. To my knowledge nobody has rejected this reconstruction (Mahéo and Deonna explicitly concur) but it is just a reconstruction.
Tenpop421 (talk) 23:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
- date, length, hook, close paraphrase check, qpq checks out. Image free on Commons. ALT1 would require a bit of rewording, something on the lines of "seems to have lost" etc. --Soman (talk) 22:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Edited ALT1 to reflect this. Thanks! Tenpop421 (talk) 23:30, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
I Hotel (novel)
- ... that novelist Karen Tei Yamashita realized the structure of her novel, I Hotel, by cutting, folding, and writing on ten cardboard cubes, each representing a year in the book?
- Source: ... so instead she went home and cut out 10 pieces of cardboard, which she scored and folded into cubes: one for each year leading up to the hotel’s destruction. Each cube was inscribed with precise indicators, one per side—a year paired with a world-historical event, a location in the Bay Area paired with a location abroad, a theme, and three characters, composites from her interviews and her imagination.
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Phibeatrice (talk) 01:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi @Phibeatrice: This article, created on 29 October, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral, and presentable. Earwig picked up no copyvio and I didn't see any close paraphrase. QPQ does not need to be done. The hook, which I trimmed a little bit going in, is interesting and cited. The hook might need a little more editing (the phrase "cutting, folding, and writing on ten cardboard cubes" is a little unwieldy, but I'm not sure how to improve it) but, as it is, I think the article is good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:59, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Carrlyn Bathe
- ... that sports broadcaster Carrlyn Bathe started her career as a member of the Los Angeles Kings Ice Crew?
- Source: [23]
- ALT1: ... that Carrlyn Bathe met her husband after he sent her gear from his clothing brand? Source: [24]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jopie Roosenburg-Goudriaan
Kimikel (talk) 04:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC).
- Will be claiming this for review and hope to get to it soon. Among the two hooks, ALT1 is probably the more unusual or interesting once since it's less reliant on NHL knowledge (and thus specialist knowledge), although I would suggest also putting "sports broadcaster" before her name. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination, and I didn't find any close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been completed. Both hooks are cited inline and verified (I am accepting the use of Facebook and Twitter as the FB link is the official Kings page and the Twitter link is her own, so meets the guidelines at WP:SPS). As mentioned above, the second hook is the better hook as it's less reliant on familiarity with the NHL or ice hockey. Good to go. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Miracle in Motown
- ... that the Miracle in Motown was the first of three successful Hail Mary passes in a span of 13 months thrown by Aaron Rodgers?
- Reviewed: Derrick Harden
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Overall: Overall, hook and article meet all criteria for DYK, no reason not to approve. JJonahJackalope (talk) 02:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
St Francis of Assisi Church, Notting Hill
- ... that in St Francis of Assisi Church, Notting Hill, John Francis Bentley was baptised in the same font that he himself designed?
- Source: Notting Hill - St Francis of Assisi from Taking Stock, Historic England.
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Overall: Looks great! Very fun hook. Great article, thank you for writing it! ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 21:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 30
[edit]Boise Pro Soccer
- ... that a new soccer team in Boise, Idaho, plans to play at a converted horse racing track? Source: Idaho Press
- Reviewed: History of Key West
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Overall: Article passes for newness and length (although on the shorter side, it passes the 1500 bytes test). Article is sourced and neutral throughout and plagiarism-free. Hook is interesting and cited (reviewing from Europe so blocked from viewing the source within this nomination, but can verify the details from other sources within the article). QPQ done. This one is good to go! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 15:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Piri Reis
- ... that there was limited appreciation for Piri Reis' cartography during his own life?
- Source: Soucek, Svat (2013). "His uniqueness among cartographers and hydrographers of the Renaissance". Cartes & Géomatique. No. 216. pp. 135–144.
Arrested by the Ottoman governor of Egypt, Piri Reis was executed in 1553 in compliance with an order issued from the imperial headquarters. The sultan probably never recalled – if in fact he ever noticed it – that the aged mariner had at the time of his enthronement dedicated a book called Kitabı Bahriye to him, and that still earlier he had made a strange map whose mutilated remains lay forgotten in the library of Topkapı Palace. [...] Piri Reis and his work occupy a special place in the framework of the exhibition "L'Age d'or des cartes marines: Quand l'Europe découvrait le monde". They show that although the Ottoman Empire had the potential to participate in the discoveries, its ruling elite spurned the attempt to blaze a trail in this direction made by a representative of a marginal group whose other members too ran into dead ends. [...] Piri Reis ran into a dead end as a cartographer [...]
- ALT1: ... that Piri Reis transported Muslims and Jews from Spain to North Africa during the Granada War?
- Source: Source: McIntosh, Gregory C. (2000a). The Piri Reis Map of 1513. Athens, Georgia: University of Georgia Press. p. 6. ISBN 978-0-82034-359-4. Archived from the original on 2022-11-21.
Piri assisted in transporting the Muslim and Jewish population in Granada from Spain to North Africa during the time of the reconquista.
- Source: Source: McIntosh, Gregory C. (2000a). The Piri Reis Map of 1513. Athens, Georgia: University of Georgia Press. p. 6. ISBN 978-0-82034-359-4. Archived from the original on 2022-11-21.
- ALT2: ... that Piri Reis advocated for and took part in Suleiman the Magnificent's 1522 Siege of Rhodes?
- Source: Soucek, Svatopluk (2004). "Navals Aspects of the Ottoman Conquests of Rhodes, Cyprus and Crete". Studia Islamica (98/99): 222. ISSN 0585-5292. JSTOR 20059216.
6. It was one of these gazi-corsairs, Kemal Reis, who suggested repeatedly to Beyazit II that he embark on conquests of potential bases on Rhodes and the Peloponnese, and offered expert advice on how to do it. This was recorded by Kemal Reis's nephew Piri Reis in his Kitab-i bahriye, a book of sailing directions for the Mediterranean compiled in two versions, the first in 1520 and the second in 1526. Advice on how to conquer Rhodes is included, understandably, only in the first version.
- İnan, Afet; Yolaç, Leman (trans.) (1954). The Oldest Map of America, Drawn by Piri Reis. Ankara: Türk Tarih Kurumu Basimevi. p. 14. OCLC 2435662.
Piri's taking part in the Turkish fleet going to the campaign on Rhodes in 1523 is to be regarded as only natural.
- Source: The context in the end-of-paragraph source makes the above more clear → Isom-Verhaaren, Christine (2022). The Sultan's fleet: seafarers of the Ottoman empire (First published ed.). London New York Oxford New Delhi Sydney: I.B. Tauris. p. 101. ISBN 978-0-7556-4173-4.
Also, Kemal Reis or, in actuality, Piri Reis offered this advice to the sultan clearly noting that any plans would be contingent on the sultan's approval. No plan of conquest would be followed unless the sultan was convinced of its feasibility or benefit to the empire. Kemal or Piri also advised against allowing some individuals to consider themselves too important to be required to bring a bag of dirt to help construct a fortress on Kumburnu. Kemal and/or Piri warned against the pretensions of the elite, who considered themselves superior to the men who would be recruited to implement this plan. The conflict between the administrative elite and seafarers echoes throughout this advice.
- Source: Soucek, Svatopluk (2004). "Navals Aspects of the Ottoman Conquests of Rhodes, Cyprus and Crete". Studia Islamica (98/99): 222. ISSN 0585-5292. JSTOR 20059216.
- ALT3: ... that Piri Reis did not map Antarctica in the sixteenth century?
- Source: McIntosh, Gregory C. (2000a). "The Southern Continent". The Piri Reis Map of 1513. Athens, Georgia: University of Georgia Press. pp. 48–68. ISBN 978-0-82034-359-4. p. 68:
When viewed in isolation, the coastline of Terra Australis on the Piri Reis map may superficially appear to resemble the actual coast of Antarctica [...]
- Source: McIntosh, Gregory C. (2000a). "The Southern Continent". The Piri Reis Map of 1513. Athens, Georgia: University of Georgia Press. pp. 48–68. ISBN 978-0-82034-359-4. p. 68:
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Christian Albright
- Comment: There are some photos of sculptures of Piri Reis (like File:Piri reis.jpg) but so far as I know, no likeness was made during his lifetime. ALT3 summarizes the "Legacy" section, but this may be stretching things too much.
- Source: Soucek, Svat (2013). "His uniqueness among cartographers and hydrographers of the Renaissance". Cartes & Géomatique. No. 216. pp. 135–144.
Rjjiii (talk) 06:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
- New GA, very well written and referenced article. Did some minor tweaks, but otherwise it looks fine, QPQ has been done and I see nothing standing in the way of this going forward. From the hooks, ALT3 would be the most interesting, followed in my personal view by ALT1. Question to the nominator, Rjjiii, why not include an image of Piri in the DYK nomination? It would help to ensure greater visibility. Constantine ✍ 19:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cplakidas: the statues, paintings, stamps, currency, and so on with his likeness were all made after his death. If that's not a big deal, I'll add two alternative versions of the preferred hooks below and an image to the DYK.
- ALT1a: ... that Piri Reis (statue pictured) transported Muslims and Jews from Spain to North Africa during the Granada War?
- ALT3a: ... that Piri Reis (statue pictured) did not map Antarctica in the sixteenth century?
- Also, the tweaks are much appreciated, Rjjiii (talk) 02:07, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: Thanks for a very informative article. Both hooks look good, image is in article, and appropriately licensed. Good to go. Constantine ✍ 17:16, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Cplakidas: the statues, paintings, stamps, currency, and so on with his likeness were all made after his death. If that's not a big deal, I'll add two alternative versions of the preferred hooks below and an image to the DYK.
Al-Altan
- ... that the Mongol princess Al-Altan was rumoured to have poisoned her brother Ögedei Khan?
- Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 168–169.
- ALT1: ... that although the details of Al-Altan's 1246 execution were censored, an unintentional slip in a chronicle reveals who killed her? Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 187–188.
- ALT2: ... that although Eljigidei was originally rewarded for killing the Mongol princess Al-Altan, he was later hunted down and executed in revenge? Source: For his reward, Broadbridge 2018, pp. 187–188; for his death, pp. 220–221.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diaspora Revolt (2nd nomination)
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
- I will review this nomination. – Editør (talk) 10:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article is new enough (GA passed on 30 October 2024), is long enough (8743 characters of prose), has no copyright violations (per GA review), and is presentable (per GA review and readthrough). The hook is cited to a reliable offline source (accepted in good faith) and interesting. ALT1 is too complicated and ALT2 centers around her executor. QPQ was done. – Editør (talk) 11:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Valse in A minor (Chopin)
- ... that the discovery of a new waltz by Chopin (pictured) has been announced by The New York Times?
Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 11:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
- Note to DYK reviewer: article was moved per talk page discussion ("Title"). I have tried my best to update the templates; there seems to be no need to move this DYK subpage itself. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 13:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- New enough, long enough and well-written. The hook is good and supported by an inline citation to a reliable source (in fact, the rediscovery has been reported quite widely in civilised media). QPQ has been made and copyright tag of the image is fine. There should be no problems. One thing to watch out for before promoting would perhaps be if there are any major updates to the article between the review and the posting, considering it is a bit of a developing story. Nice article, great piece for DYK. Kind regards, Yakikaki (talk) 15:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Regulus (painting)
- ... that a man stabbed the painting Regulus (pictured) because he disliked the "misty state of the picture"?
- Source: * Beaumont, Matthew (2020). "Reason Dazzled: The All-Seeing and the Unseeing in Turner's Regulus". British Art Studies (15). doi:10.17658/issn.2058-5462/issue-15/mbeaumont. ISSN 2058-5462.
ALT1: ... that the painting Regulus (pictured) depicts a Roman general who was blinded by the sun? Source: * Beaumont, Matthew (2020). "Reason Dazzled: The All-Seeing and the Unseeing in Turner's Regulus". British Art Studies (15). doi:10.17658/issn.2058-5462/issue-15/mbeaumont. ISSN 2058-5462.ALT2: ... that J. M. W. Turner repainted Regulus (pictured) by "driving" white paint into the center of the canvas? Source: * Cust, Lionel (1895). "The Portraits of J. M. W. Turner, R.A." The Magazine of Art. Open Court Publishing Co. pp. 245–251.- Reviewed:
CitrusHemlock 13:11, 30 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi CitrusHemlock, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 30 October and far exceeds minimum length; it is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable (largely offline) sources; I didn't pick up on any issues with overly close paraphrasing; image is obviously magnificent and PD by virtue of age; no QPQ is required as nominator has only one prior DYK credit; ALT01 is stated in the article and checks out to source cited. I have struck ALT1 as the article states there is doubt that Regulus himself appears in the piece and ALT2 as the article only says that "Gilbert claims" the driving in of the paint was done. Happy to consider alternative hooks if you want to suggest any? - Dumelow (talk) 14:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: Thanks for reviewing the nom so quickly! I was a bit sloppy with the phrasing of the ALTs, the first could probably be rephraised to "...that the painting Regulus is based on a Roman general who was blinded by the sun?" and the second "...that J. M. W. Turner reportedly repainted Regulus by "driving" white paint into the center of the canvas?" Regardless, the stabbing is the most compelling hook in my opinion, but any of them would work well. CitrusHemlock 17:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 31
[edit]1983 Spanish floods
- ... that the 1983 Spanish floods were the most economically damaging in Spain until the 2024 Spanish floods?
- Reviewed: 1931 Barcelona rent strike
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations. Valenciano (talk) 17:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Valenciano article is new enough and long enough; I can verify the fact from the source cited; I am not familiar with Spanish sources but they look to be newspapers or similar so happy to AGF they are reliable; a QPQ has been carried out; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources. Couple of queries on sourcing: I couldn't see in the source cited where it said 5 people were left missing and there is no source for the 150 billion pesata cost - Dumelow (talk) 16:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow, I've juggled the references round so that they now match. Valenciano (talk) 20:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, looks OK to me. The hook could potentially benefit from a little work to avoid repetition of "Spanish ... Spain ... Spanish" but I don't have a better suggestion at the moment - Dumelow (talk) 21:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
New World Mall
- ... that upon its opening in 2011, New World Mall (pictured) was the largest Asian shopping mall in the Northeastern United States?
- Source: 1
- ALT1: ... that in 2024, New World Mall (pictured) in Flushing, Queens, was raided by the FBI as part of their investigations into the Eric Adams administration? Source: 2
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2024 Kansas City metropolitan area rent strike
Morgan695 (talk) 16:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC).
Reviewing now...—CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:37, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Interesting and well-sourced article. No copyright problems. It is new and long enough. Both hooks are interesting (I suspect ALT1 may be more timely). Waiting on the QPQ... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: QPQ has been completed. Morgan695 (talk) 15:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: Were there any additional outstanding issues, or is this good to be promoted? Morgan695 (talk) 18:09, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Morgan695: Nothing at all! Thanks for your great work! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: Were there any additional outstanding issues, or is this good to be promoted? Morgan695 (talk) 18:09, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Mountain Landscape
- ... that the painting Mountain Landscape is said to defy photographic reproduction, as its immersive depth and luminosity can only be fully experienced in person?
- Source: Hertzlieb, Gregg (Fall/Winter 2009-2010). "Frederic Edwin Church: Mountain Landscape". Valparaiso Poetry Review. Valparaiso University. XI (1).
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Burrito Express: Template:Did you know nominations/Disputes on Wikipedia; Template:Did you know nominations/It's OK I'm OK
Viriditas (talk) 06:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
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Overall: Hook is interesting, good to go. Sahaib (talk) 23:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Burrito Express
- ... that the founder of Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, styled himself as the "king of the flying burrito"?
- Source: [25]
- ALT1: ... that when Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, was threatened with closure, longtime customers queued for its food in support? Source: [26]
- ALT2: ... that Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, has burritos on its menu named after Lance Ito and Ross Perot? Source: [27]
- ALT3: ... that Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, serves a burrito named after Ross Perot described as having "a little bit of everything, or you can say it's full of it"? Source: Ibid.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/New World Mall
- Comment: Better image to come tomorrow.
CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: You are burying the lede. Why is Burrito Express called the "king of the flying burrito"? Because they used to run a mail order business that shipped frozen burritos across the U.S. That's your best and most interesting hook. But it's not here. Everything else checks out. Pass ALT0 as first choice, followed by ALT2. I do not support ALT3 as it breaches the bright line of contentiousness, and I don't support ALT1 because "threatened with closure" is too ambiguous and makes it seem like there's a negative component to it when it is just the nature of the business environment during COVID, not the quality of their food. Viriditas (talk) 04:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing. I'd appreciate it if you could be more specific as to what the shortcomings are so that I may remedy them. Are you asking me to contextualize ALT0 by mentioning the mail order business? I had thought about it, but was worried it would make the hook too long. If you feel this is necessary, however, please let me know and I will provide a modified hook. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- I was just curious about your response. I'm biased towards a hook that doesn't exist, which really doesn't make any kind of sense, so I passed it. Viriditas (talk) 04:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry—I totally misread your review. You're right, it slipped my mind to make a hook based on their mail order business. Please give me until tomorrow morning (PDT) and I'll have a new hook ready for you! Thanks again. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- You really don't have to do that, but if you insist, you are welcome. I'm happy to pass it right now based on the above. Viriditas (talk) 04:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you for your patience. Been busy recently! A couple more ALTs for your consideration.
ALT4: ... that Burrito Express' mail order business was so successful, its owner styled himself the "king of the flying burrito"? (Source: [28])- ALT5: ... that Burrito Express began shipping out its burritos by mail because of demand from former customers who had moved away from California? (Source: Ibid.) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:24, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- I like ALT4, ALT5, followed by ALT0 and ALT2. I will let the prepper decide. Viriditas (talk) 02:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24 and Viriditas: ALT4's the best one, but the source doesn't really say that the style was because of the company's success. In fact, it doesn't even say that the company's successful, although its gross revenue is high. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: I agree with your assessment. Let's go with ALT5, or combine ALT5 and ALT4 as I originally suggested in my review, without the "so successful" bit. In other words: " ... that Burrito Express began shipping burritos by mail due to demand from former customers who had moved, leading the owner to describe himself as the "king of the flying burrito"? Viriditas (talk) 08:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24 and Viriditas: ALT4's the best one, but the source doesn't really say that the style was because of the company's success. In fact, it doesn't even say that the company's successful, although its gross revenue is high. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I like ALT4, ALT5, followed by ALT0 and ALT2. I will let the prepper decide. Viriditas (talk) 02:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Issue resolved below, 01:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC) I don't think the image can be freely licensed by the photographer since the business would own the copyright to the sign. No objections to promoting without an image, Rjjiii (talk) 17:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've seen DYKs with images that include business signs and logos (such as this, this, and this one). Is it because the image focuses exclusively on the sign? There is another image I added to the article a couple of days ago with the sign off to the side in a wider shot of the restaurant front patio. Would that be acceptable for the DYK? —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: the copyright rules in the United States are arbitrarily different for a building that you can go inside of and a free-standing sculpture or sign. Give me a moment, and I'll find some links, Rjjiii (talk) 20:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: Here are some links: on Commons, FoP on Commons, the legal exceptions for buildings, and an explanation about buildings. A photograph that focuses mostly on the building will not have the same issue because you can go inside of the building. The exceptions to copyright law for buildings in public spaces don't apply to 2D signs or to 3D sculptures unless they are integrated into the design of the building. Rjjiii (talk) 20:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. So I'm still confused. According to Commons, "detailed informational and educational noticeboards/signs" are unacceptable as they are almost always copyright protected. Would the Burrito Express sign qualify as such a sign? The information it imparts appears to be generic and, at least to me, not detailed at all. I appreciate your answers and patience. At any rate, I'm happy as long as the DYK runs, with or without photo, but just want clarification for the future. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: you might get a more informed answer at Commons, but I imagine the sign's doodle is the kind of "graphic image" that would clearly give it copyright protection. In the US, I think the legal bar is sufficiently creative, which is fairly low. A larger-scale photo like the one in the article where the doodle is just a minor bit is likely fine (De_minimis#Copyright). Rjjiii (talk) 23:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: Can we use this image instead? Viriditas (talk) 00:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: yes, I don't see an issue with that one, Rjjiii (talk) 00:43, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: Thank you, I've replaced it with the approval of the legendary CurryTime7-24.[29] Can we get your tickmark going forward? Viriditas (talk) 00:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: yes, and concern struck above, Rjjiii (talk) 01:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: Thank you, I've replaced it with the approval of the legendary CurryTime7-24.[29] Can we get your tickmark going forward? Viriditas (talk) 00:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: yes, I don't see an issue with that one, Rjjiii (talk) 00:43, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: Can we use this image instead? Viriditas (talk) 00:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: you might get a more informed answer at Commons, but I imagine the sign's doodle is the kind of "graphic image" that would clearly give it copyright protection. In the US, I think the legal bar is sufficiently creative, which is fairly low. A larger-scale photo like the one in the article where the doodle is just a minor bit is likely fine (De_minimis#Copyright). Rjjiii (talk) 23:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. So I'm still confused. According to Commons, "detailed informational and educational noticeboards/signs" are unacceptable as they are almost always copyright protected. Would the Burrito Express sign qualify as such a sign? The information it imparts appears to be generic and, at least to me, not detailed at all. I appreciate your answers and patience. At any rate, I'm happy as long as the DYK runs, with or without photo, but just want clarification for the future. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
6th National Eucharistic Congress (United States)
- ... that despite a cold rain, twenty-five thousand people participated in the closing procession of the Sixth National Eucharistic Congress in Omaha?
- Source: "25,000 On Knees As Rain Swirls". The Spokesman-Review. Sep 26, 1930. Retrieved 31 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Bishop John Dunn continued to celebrate Mass after a fire broke out in the choir loft of St. Cecilia Cathedral during the Sixth National Eucharistic Congress? Source: "Facts About Great Eucharistic Rally". The Nebraska Register. Oct 5, 1930. Retrieved 30 October 2024.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I can email PDFs of the newspapers.com sources to anyone who'd like to verify them, Special:EmailUser/Darth Stabro
User:Darth Stabro (talk) 00:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
- Correcting a syntax error that led to failure to correctly subst. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:26, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Darth Stabro, have you considered clipping your Newspapers.com citations? See WP:CLIP, my handy guide to do so. Clippings are publicly viewable. I clipped the hook citation: [30]. Since I'm here, this is your fifth nomination and last QPQ-exempt one. The article is new enough and long enough, and the hook fact checks out. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just today I noticed JPxG's Greasemonkey plugin for this at [31] and was going to look into adding it. I'll look at your link as well! Thanks! ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 00:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- PressPass is invaluable and has saved me so, so much time in the last three years. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:58, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I'm having some issued getting it to work on Chrome. Another feather that will eventually push me back to Firefox, probably... manual clipping works for now. I didn't realize that non-subscribers to Newspapers.com could view clips. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 12:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- PressPass is invaluable and has saved me so, so much time in the last three years. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:58, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just today I noticed JPxG's Greasemonkey plugin for this at [31] and was going to look into adding it. I'll look at your link as well! Thanks! ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 00:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 1
[edit]The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate
- ... that an Indiana university argued in court that The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate, a 1914 painting, was too modern for their art collection in 2024?
- Source: Aguiar, Annie (July 19, 2024). "To Sell Prized Paintings, a University Proclaims They're Not 'Conservative'". The New York Times. Retrieved November 7, 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sonya Friedman; Template:Did you know nominations/Nikolaus Mollyn
Viriditas (talk) 04:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting painting, covered well and detailed on fine sources, subscription sources accepted AGF. I am less happy with the hook. My understanding - which of course may be wrong - is not that they found it too modern, but that they thought those who had bought it earlier should have found it too modern, which is a completely different thing. I would prefer to get a bit more info in the hook about the subject than "a 1914 painting" - painter, style, subject, whatever. The title alone didn't prepare me for the beautiful thing I saw, and the hook would not have made me look, - it was your name that hooked me ;) - If you still want that hook, I'll approve it, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: This controversy is covered by the NYT,[32] so I won't go into it too much here other than to say that this subject, American Impressionist Childe Hassam (1859–1935), was called "conservative to the core" by New Yorker art critic Peter Schjeldahl in 2004, and that is the accepted opinion by art historians. To address this slightly further, Hassam embraced an older, antiquated kind of modernism dating to about the 1870s, which represented the art of the generation before him. Ironically by the time the American art world accepted Hassam as status quo, perhaps by the time of the Armory Show of 1913 or thereabouts, the time of the American Impressionists had come and gone. Hassam was on record expressing his extreme displeasure at the ascendancy of the new Cubism, so his conservativsm as an artist was well known. I won't go into Hassam's social conservatism, as there is quite a bit written on that subject, similar to that of Renoir, and it's somewhat separate from his conservative approach to art. The quirky nature of the hook is centered around a 110-year-old painting by an artist who vocally objected to the trajectory of modern art in 1913 and yet was considered "too modern" by Valparaiso University in 2024 based on a specious legal argument that hinges on the definition and interpretation of "conservative" art, a definition that is disputed by art historians and legal experts. I should like to add one final thing: while writing a series of articles about this topic, I found that the legal argument made by Valparaiso University doesn't hold up based on the history of art. It turns out that the techniques and philosophy found in the Hudson River School, attributed to its founder Thomas Cole, which forms the underlying basis of Valparaiso's argument that Hassam's work is too modern to be included in the university collection, are in fact, almost identical to the working technique and philosophy of Childe Hassam. I laughed out loud when I realized this (and I think I woke up my neighbors at 2 AM) because it means Valparaiso's case should never have been approved by the courts. It turns out that Hassam used the same technique that Cole talks about in the 1840s and 1850s. This involves "creating compositions of both representational and imaginative landscapes, where the artist creates a fusion of what is both in the natural world and in the mind on the canvas". Hassam famously did this throughout his career, most notably in the painting Point Lobos, Carmel (1914) to such an extent, that the artist he was working with, Francis McComas (1874-1938), had a fit and complained to his wife about Hassam's conservative, anti-modernist approach, and the incident made its way into the history books. To summarize: I think it's possible you missed the point I was making. With that said, I am open to creating new hooks as always. Viriditas (talk) 00:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, to respond to the comment in your edit history, no, it's not supposed to be inside baseball, and if it comes off that way, it definitely needs a new hook. I will present others to choose from, but it doesn't look like you'll be around. I can make a request on DYK to have others look. Viriditas (talk) 08:54, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: This controversy is covered by the NYT,[32] so I won't go into it too much here other than to say that this subject, American Impressionist Childe Hassam (1859–1935), was called "conservative to the core" by New Yorker art critic Peter Schjeldahl in 2004, and that is the accepted opinion by art historians. To address this slightly further, Hassam embraced an older, antiquated kind of modernism dating to about the 1870s, which represented the art of the generation before him. Ironically by the time the American art world accepted Hassam as status quo, perhaps by the time of the Armory Show of 1913 or thereabouts, the time of the American Impressionists had come and gone. Hassam was on record expressing his extreme displeasure at the ascendancy of the new Cubism, so his conservativsm as an artist was well known. I won't go into Hassam's social conservatism, as there is quite a bit written on that subject, similar to that of Renoir, and it's somewhat separate from his conservative approach to art. The quirky nature of the hook is centered around a 110-year-old painting by an artist who vocally objected to the trajectory of modern art in 1913 and yet was considered "too modern" by Valparaiso University in 2024 based on a specious legal argument that hinges on the definition and interpretation of "conservative" art, a definition that is disputed by art historians and legal experts. I should like to add one final thing: while writing a series of articles about this topic, I found that the legal argument made by Valparaiso University doesn't hold up based on the history of art. It turns out that the techniques and philosophy found in the Hudson River School, attributed to its founder Thomas Cole, which forms the underlying basis of Valparaiso's argument that Hassam's work is too modern to be included in the university collection, are in fact, almost identical to the working technique and philosophy of Childe Hassam. I laughed out loud when I realized this (and I think I woke up my neighbors at 2 AM) because it means Valparaiso's case should never have been approved by the courts. It turns out that Hassam used the same technique that Cole talks about in the 1840s and 1850s. This involves "creating compositions of both representational and imaginative landscapes, where the artist creates a fusion of what is both in the natural world and in the mind on the canvas". Hassam famously did this throughout his career, most notably in the painting Point Lobos, Carmel (1914) to such an extent, that the artist he was working with, Francis McComas (1874-1938), had a fit and complained to his wife about Hassam's conservative, anti-modernist approach, and the incident made its way into the history books. To summarize: I think it's possible you missed the point I was making. With that said, I am open to creating new hooks as always. Viriditas (talk) 00:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Annie Huggett
- ... that as a teenager in the 1900s, Annie Huggett organised suffragette meetings at her local pub?
- Source: "Annie Huggett was born Annie Clara French in Halstead, Essex, in 1892 ... Though Annie was never arrested, she was very much part of the suffragette movement, and organised meetings for the cause in the former George Inn in Barking Broadway – known then as the Three Lamps – when she was just 18." from: Hedges-Stocks, Zoah (21 September 2016). "Post Memories: Women's centre named after Barking suffragette Annie Huggett". Barking and Dagenham Post. Retrieved 28 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that at 103 years old, Annie Huggett was the oldest surviving suffragette at the time of her 1996 death? Source: "Annie was proud to be both the country’s oldest surviving suffragette and the longest card-carrying member of the Labour Party. ,,, The Red Flag was sung at Annie’s funeral in 1996 when she was laid to rest in Rippleside Cemetery." from the same source
- ALT2: ... that because of her republican beliefs, Annie Huggett's family hid from her the telegram sent by Elizabeth II to mark a British person's 100th birthday? Source: "He last saw Annie in May 1992 on her 100th birthday and remembers two cards being pride of place on her mantelpiece – one was from the Labour Party, the other was from Barking Town FC ... He said both were very important to her – but there was one birthday message that certainly wasn’t on display: her message from the Queen. When Gerry asked Annie’s daughter about its whereabouts he was told that they had hidden it for fear of offending her as she was a lifelong and staunch republican." from the same source
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Johnny Fripp
Dumelow (talk) 08:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing... New enough, long enough, reads well. Will go through rest soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 08:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- ... No copyvio issues. QPQ provided. Hooks all good and are in article and sources. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
David Hilchen
- ... that David Hilchen played a key role in the establishment of Renaissance humanism in the area of the present-day Baltic states? Source: Viiding 2024, p. 119-120
Yakikaki (talk) 15:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting life and work, on few but fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the interesting short hook! I have a few wishes for the article: 1) give him an infobox, or it looks as if it was an article about a coat of arms, 2) avoid "would" - everything is now past, 3) bring the refs above the cited sources - no idea why German and others have it differently, but in English, that's normal, 4) formal the one source that's not yet among Cited sources like the others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Gerda! I will go through the article and make some of the improvements you suggest, and certainly change the order of refs and cited sourced. I really dislike infoboxes though. Yakikaki (talk) 18:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- ...though upon reflection, in this case you're right, an infobox makes the coat of arms look less awkward. Added. Thanks again Gerda! Yakikaki (talk) 19:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Gerda! I will go through the article and make some of the improvements you suggest, and certainly change the order of refs and cited sourced. I really dislike infoboxes though. Yakikaki (talk) 18:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Arthur France
- ... that Arthur France founded the first West Indian carnival in Europe?
- Source: ref 5 (url:https://lucas.leeds.ac.uk/article/the-leeds-west-indian-carnival-is-fifty) 'The Carnival in Leeds reached its fiftieth consecutive performance in August 2017, proudly maintaining its original title: The Leeds West Indian Carnival (LWIC). It was the first Caribbean-style street carnival in Europe' .. 'Nevis-born Arthur France ... pulled together the committee that created the early carnivals in Leeds'
- ALT1: ... that when Arthur France founded the Leeds West Indian Carnival in 1967, it was the first Caribbean carnival in Europe? Source: same source
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Trilobite Wilderness
Chaiten1 (talk) 20:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new, long enough and neutral. It is sourced with inline citations. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports no crucial text similarities commenting "violation unlikely". Both hooks are well-formatted and interesting.Their length is within limit. They are accurate with reference given inline. QPQ was done. Good to go. CeeGee 10:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Peter Capaldi
- ... that Doctor Who star Peter Capaldi (pictured) was a fan of the series as a child?
- ALT1: ... that Twelfth Doctor actor Peter Capaldi (pictured) was a fan of Doctor Who as child? Source: https://ew.com/article/2014/08/01/once-upon-time-lord/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dune (Kenshi Yonezu song)
Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
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- Might be interesting to note Capaldi's age when he played the Doctor, then! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Light Vessel 93
- ... that Light Vessel 93 (pictured) was converted into a photography studio?
- Source: "A 40-metre-long former lighthouse vessel and celebrity photo studio up for sale in Royal Victoria Dock for £595,000 through Riverhomes." from: Clover, Jack (1 September 2021). "Lighthouse ship that played host to a Bond girl for sale for £595k". The Standard. Retrieved 30 October 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Al-Shaykh Badr
- Comment: Could run as a double-hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95, if desired
Dumelow (talk) 16:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: @Dumelow, nice work on this article. Do you still want to run this as a double hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95, because that nomination has already been reviewed? Epicgenius (talk) 01:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Epicgenius, I am happy for them to run separately. Was just putting the option out there as there is usually a backlog of approved hooks - Dumelow (talk) 09:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- All right, then. My previous approval is unchanged. Epicgenius (talk) 14:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Dune (Kenshi Yonezu song)
- ... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" composed by Kenshi Yonezu has a music video that was viewed over one million times over the span of less than a week on the Japanese video-sharing site NicoNico?
- ALT1: ... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" written by Kenshi Yonezu for Hatsune Miku's 10th anniversary features lyrics about the demise of life? Source: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2017/10/31/music/kenshi-yonezu-hopes-fireworks-new-album-bootleg/
- ALT2: ... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" worked by Kenshi Yonezu is much slower compared to many other Vocaloid songs, at only 95 BPM? Source: https://natalie.mu/music/pp/hachi_ryo/page/3
- Reviewed:
ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 09:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
I made a small copy edit but beyond that the content is fine, earwig has less then 10% overlap. QPQ not need congrats on your first DYK! Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- @OlifanofmrTennant: Thanks! But it seems the DYK template not working well? ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 18:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 2
[edit]Patrick J. Ryan (chaplain)
- ... that after the liberation of Rome, U.S. Army chaplain Patrick Ryan celebrated a Mass of Thanksgiving in the Church of Santa Maria degli Angeli e dei Martiri for 10,000 people?
- Source: "Cardinal Presides At Historic Service In Liberated Rome". The Nebraska Register. June 18, 1944. Retrieved 30 July 2024.
~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 00:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Darth Stabro, review follows: article promoted to GA on 3 November; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources in a spot check; hook fact is interesting, stated in article and supported by citations (I note one source says "almost 10,000" and one says "more than 10,000" so I think you are OK just stating 10,000); a QPQ has been carried out; my only query is on the image: do you have confirmation that it is a work of a US military person, I couldn't see anything in the source? It is likely to be the case but we should confirm - Dumelow (talk) 18:54, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Howdy Dumelow, the photographer is a historical researcher and I can't imagine where else it would be from other than an official photo; however you're right, it's not 100%, and I don't have the time to try to confirm it this week - probably best to do it without the photo. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 14:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Darth Stabro, no worries. Happy to approve to run without image - Dumelow (talk) 14:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Codex Monacensis (X 033)
- ... that a manuscript of the New Testament was bound with the books in the wrong order, to which a scholar decried "[he] has messed everything up"?
- Source: [1]
- Reviewed:
Stephen Walch (talk) 18:12, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Stephen: this article, promoted to GA on November 1, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio or close paraphrase. Hook sourced, short enough, and interesting. QPQ does not need to be done. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 02:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Gregory, Caspar René (1900). Textkritik des Neuen Testaments. Vol. 1. Leipzig: J.C. Hinrichs. pp. 82–83.
Apricot dress of Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy
- ... that the apricot dress of Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy, made in silk zibeline, kept its shape in India's hot temperature?
- Source: [33]
- Reviewed: Viriamo
- Comment: Would appreciate comments from Philafrenzy if possible
Whispyhistory (talk) 18:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting dress, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the hook, but suggest to drop "Bouvier" - she is better known as Jackie Kennedy - and to link zibeline as in the article. - The image is licensed and serves well as illustration of why this colour. For formality, you still have to add (pictured) to the hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0a: ... that the apricot dress of Jacqueline Kennedy (pictured), made in silk zibeline, kept its shape in India's hot temperature? Whispyhistory (talk) 17:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0a preferred --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:18, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe that the image could be cropped a bit for this purpose, but even if not, she stands out. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:20, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Obviously should be cropped. Also, why not:
- Alt1 ... that the apricot dress (pictured) that Jacqueline Kennedy wore on her 1962 tour of India was copied for a Barbie doll costume? Philafrenzy (talk) 12:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you... sounds good too. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:46, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- The pic should not be cropped too much, - still sky and ground and some people looking pale in comparison. In ALlt1, I believe that pictured should come after India, because not only the dress is pictured but that dress worn in India.
- I approve Alt1 as well, but think the original is more focused, and told me something I was happy to learn. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you... sounds good too. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:46, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0a: ... that the apricot dress of Jacqueline Kennedy (pictured), made in silk zibeline, kept its shape in India's hot temperature? Whispyhistory (talk) 17:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Oscar Goodman (basketball)
- ... that Oscar Goodman is New Zealand's only global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree since 2002?
TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Covered for newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, is plagiarism-free, and the hook is cited and interesting. QPQ done. Good to go on this one! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- What's a "global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree"? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Goodman has participated in three FIBA sanctioned tournaments. The first was just a regional competition for countries in Oceania. The second was a tournament for countries in Asia (and/including Oceania). The third was for countries around the world. I use the term global to mean a tournament open to worldwide/global contestants. Such tournaments select honorary teams to recognize the best performers in the tournament. These teams are called all-tournament teams and the players chosen are honorees. Sometimes the tournament will select a best five (the first team) and a next best five (the second team).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Amer Ghalib
- ... that Democrat mayor Amer Ghalib endorsed Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election?
- ALT1 ... that mayor of Hamtramck Amer Ghalib worked with what was believed to be the first all-Muslim city council in the United States?
- Source: https://archive.today/E7zg4
- ALT2 ... that the Hamtramck city council led by mayor Amer Ghalib banned the pride flag from publicly owned flagpoles?
- Source: https://apnews.com/article/hamtramck-michigan-lgbtq-flags-cb4a05064e5cc6882f3072966e66a413
Sahaib (talk) 23:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
- I will take this review. Dwkaminski (talk) 12:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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Review comments:
- I don't see the support for the statement "A member of the Democratic Party, he worked with what was believed to be the first all-Muslim city council in the United States." in the newsweek reference. It should be referenced to the fox news website. I can't read the NY Times reference but AGF.
- I don't see the support for the statement "Ghalib acknowledged their disagreements on key issues but that he believed that Trump would end the Israel–Hamas war." in the two references given
- Earwig copyvio detector shows 13.0% - violation unlikely
- @Sahaib: Overall very good. Just minor sourcing issues listed above. Please fix and I will approve. Dwkaminski (talk) 13:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dwkaminski: sorry about the sources, a lot were added by another user (see history). The Newsweek source states that he was a member of the Democratic Party whilst the New York Times sources the rest. The Newsweek sources states "acknowledging some disagreements with the former president" and in the New York Times it states that "President Biden’s support of Israel and a belief that Mr. Trump will end the conflict in the Middle East." You can view the source in its archived form. Sahaib (talk) 13:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Sahaib: All good. approved! Dwkaminski (talk) 14:10, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Personally I'm not sure this is interesting enough for DYK. We saw plenty of people cross party lines to endorse Biden or Harris, and I don't believe those would be interesting enough for DYK either. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: I have added some alt hooks. Sahaib (talk) 17:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- The alt hooks are much more interesting than what was originally proposed, which seemed relatively run of the mill. Thanks for the additions @Sahaib:. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: I have added some alt hooks. Sahaib (talk) 17:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 3
[edit]Gail Damerow
- ... that farmer, teacher, and author Gail Damerow was described by Grist magazine as "poultry's Cesar Millan"?
- ALT1: ... that Gail Damerow's book described by the New York Times as the "authoritative book on ice cream" was created because of the lack of good recipes in her ice cream maker's recipe booklet? Source: "The scoop on ice cream" - The Knoxville News-Sentinel
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Boxheim Documents
SilverserenC 01:30, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting hook but slight problems that could be resolved before I can complete a final confirmation for it to be approved for DYK. Overall the article has no copyright problems and both the hooks are mentioned in the article. But the problem is related to how the hooks are mentioned in the article. As I see when it comes to ALT1, it mentions that ' that Gail Damerow's book described by the New York Times as the "authoritative book on ice cream" was created because of the lack of good recipes in her ice cream maker's recipe booklet?. However in the article where the hook ('Awards and Honors') is mentioned, it just states 'described by The New York Times as the authoritative book on ice cream'. Hope you can fix this issue by adding more of the ALT1's fact here. The first hook is fine. So just fix the stated issue and after that I can give green light for your article for DYK. - Toadboy123 (talk) 09:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Toadboy123, do you mean the part of the hook on why the book was created? Because that's in the beginning of the Career section, with the source I gave above. SilverserenC 22:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Silver seren I suggest that you mention the hook also in the 'Awards and Honors' section so that readers can easily notice it when they read the article. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Toadboy123, I wasn't aware of that being a requirement for hooks? I've had a number of hooks that involved multiple parts of an article. And the info about the inspiration for the book doesn't really fit in an Awards section, particularly since it has to do with events in her life and where she was living. SilverserenC 22:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- In that case, then the article is all good to go then. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Toadboy123, I wasn't aware of that being a requirement for hooks? I've had a number of hooks that involved multiple parts of an article. And the info about the inspiration for the book doesn't really fit in an Awards section, particularly since it has to do with events in her life and where she was living. SilverserenC 22:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Silver seren I suggest that you mention the hook also in the 'Awards and Honors' section so that readers can easily notice it when they read the article. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Toadboy123, do you mean the part of the hook on why the book was created? Because that's in the beginning of the Career section, with the source I gave above. SilverserenC 22:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Fukushima nuclear accident
- ... that residents evacuated in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear accident were exposed to so little radiation that radiation-induced health effects are likely to be below detectable levels?
- Source: "Outside the geographical areas most affected by radiation, even in locations within Fuku-
shima prefecture, the predicted risks remain low and no observable increases in cancer
above natural variation in baseline rates are anticipated" page 8: https://iris.who.int/bitstream/handle/10665/78218/9789241505130_eng.pdf;jsessionid=5D2A9C6FCDE7BA3C9686CED940B05E3A?sequence=1- ALT1: ... that during the Fukushima nuclear accident officials were told not to use the phrase "core meltdown" in order to conceal the meltdown until they officially recognized it two months after the accident? Source: " Tepco asked a third-party panel to investigate the matter and the panel released a report on 16 June saying the company’s then-president, Masataka Shimizu, had instructed officials not to use the words "core meltdown"." https://www.neimagazine.com/news/tepco-concealed-core-meltdowns-during-fukushima-accident-4931915/
- ALT2: ... that the Fukushima nuclear accident was foreseeable and preventable? Source: "The accident "cannot be regarded as a natural disaster," the panel's chairman, Tokyo University professor emeritus Kiyoshi Kurokawa, wrote in the report. "It was a profoundly manmade disaster -- that could and should have been foreseen and prevented. And its effects could have been mitigated by a more effective human response."" https://www.smh.com.au/world/fukushima-nuclear-accident--manmade-not-natural--disaster-20120705-21jrl.html
- Reviewed:
Czarking0 (talk) 20:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- @Czarking0: I'll start by addressing WP:DYKNEW. This article last appeared at In the news on 12 April 2011, and the on this day on 11 March 2023. This was over one year ago, so it can go on the main page again.
- The article recently became a good article so it is eligible for DYK. Earwig's is not working so i'll assume good faith when it comes to copyvios. QPQ not needed.
- I'll review ALT0 (I think it is the most interesting). The hook matches the article.
- I'm worried about the source for this hook because it is a preliminary report, which uses predictions of health effects rather than observations. It also doesn't say about the evacuations and also says
In the highest dose location ... For leukaemia, the lifetime risks are predicted to increase by up to around 7% over baseline cancer rates in males exposed as infants
However, a 2020 source says thatNo adverse health effects among Fukushima residents have been documented that are directly attributable to radiation exposure from the FDNPS accident
. So I'll approve, with caution. ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Jiangwan Racecourse
- ... that the Jiangwan Racecourse (pictured) hosted horse races, a golf club, and prisoners of war?
- Source: Sports facilities: Chen Yangyang (陈洋阳) (5 February 2016). 老上海体育建筑遗存:江湾跑马厅民国时期面貌考 参考网 [Remains of Old Shanghai Sports Buildings: A Study of the Appearance of the Jiangwan Racecourse during the Republic of China Period]. Sports Research (in Chinese). 4. Archived from the original on 21 April 2024. Retrieved 3 November 2024 – via Back Issue Magazine Reading Platform and Reference Network.;
- ALT1: ... that British forces severed a Chinese railway line after an aircraft was forced to land at the Jiangwan Racecourse (pictured)? Source: "Firm Action by British Military in Shanghai". The North-China Herald. Shanghai. 20 August 1927. pp. 309–310. Retrieved 3 November 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Benjamin Franklin Shumard
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:13, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Chris Woodrich, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 3 November and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I am not familiar with all of the sources (particularly the none-English ones) but happy to AGF that they are all reliable; image looks to be PD (as was in public domain at URAA date); hooks facts are mentioned in the article and check out to source cited, my preference is probably for ALT0 as the connection between the aircraft landing and dismantling the railway is not obvious to the reader; a QPQ has been carried out; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraprasing in a spotcheck and Earwig doesn't flag up any issues. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 16:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
St John the Evangelist Church, Islington
- ... that Augustus Pugin called St John the Evangelist Church, Islington a "deformity", which was refuted by Joseph Hansom?
- Source: Historic England. "Islington – St John the Evangelist". Taking Stock. Quote: "Pugin castigated the Romanesque Revival building as ‘the most original combination of modern deformity that has been executed for some time past’. In response, the design was defended by Joseph Hansom in The Builder."
- Joseph Hansom. 1 April 1843. "The Present State of Ecclesiastical Architecture in England". The Builder Volume 1, page 98. Quote: "This church, so far from exhibiting the adoption of true Catholic principles, which we have had so much pleasure in describing at Masbro’, is certainly the most original combination of modern deformity that has been erected for some time past for the sacred purpose of a Catholic church," and, "And now, we tell our readers that this new church of Islington, which Mr. Scoles has built, and which Mr. Pugin insists he ought not to have built, and which he has done no little damage to by his strictures, depriving it of the contribution of many whose purses yield more to dictation in such matters than to reason or to judgment; this church of Mr. Scoles is withal a fine and noble church."
- Denis Evinson, Catholic Churches of London, Sheffield: Sheffield Academic Press, 1998, page 140. Quote: "Scoles's neo-Norman design was severely castigated by Pugin in The Dublin review, in which he called for a rebuilding of Islington's mediaeval Gothic church. Joseph Hansom, however, powerfully defended Scoles's church in the pages of The Builder, of which he was then editor, pointing out that Catholicism had other 'beautiful forms, styles and adaptations in store for us."
Cardofk (talk) 21:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Cardofk, nice work on this article. Review follows: article created 3 November and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources (though I usually avoid British Listed Buildings as it is a mirror of the Historic England listing; I didn't pick up on any paraphrasing issues; hook fact is interesting enough for me, mentioned in the article and checks out to sources cited; image is freely licensed; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks good to go - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- One minor thing I had a quick look at the Archdiocese directory page cited and found ti listed the Sunday masses as "Sunday (Sat 6pm), 9.30am, 11am (Sung)" and not the four times you have? One other thing you might consider is adding some background to the "foundation" section on why Catholicism was practised in secret and the timing of the Catholic relief acts, the unknowing reader might otherwise be a little confused how we went from arresting priests to constructing a church - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, very good point, thanks for spotting it, I really should have linked to the Reformation at the beginning. Will do. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- One minor thing I had a quick look at the Archdiocese directory page cited and found ti listed the Sunday masses as "Sunday (Sat 6pm), 9.30am, 11am (Sung)" and not the four times you have? One other thing you might consider is adding some background to the "foundation" section on why Catholicism was practised in secret and the timing of the Catholic relief acts, the unknowing reader might otherwise be a little confused how we went from arresting priests to constructing a church - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Mary Robertson
- ... that Mary Robertson was the first woman to receive a Doctor of Science in Medicine from the University of Cape Town? Source: [1]
- Reviewed:
Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 20:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- article is new enough, long enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is not required. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
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- ^ "Robertson entertains her doctors". UCT News. 4 May 2010. Retrieved 3 November 2024.
Abu Sulayman Da'ud
- ... that Arab physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud was recruited by the Latin king of Jerusalem to treat a disabled boy prince, while Abu Sulayman's son taught the prince to ride a horse using only his knees?
- Source: "Abu Sulayman worked for the king for a while, even treating his son Baldwin's leprosy..." Zimo p. 158 "He also engaged Abul’Khair, Abu Sulayman’s brother, to teach the boy to ride ... with his knees alone." Hamilton p. 28
- ALT1: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud served both Latin Christian and Arab Muslim rulers? Source: "This Eastern Christian family thus knit together different political and religious groups of the region by bringing their medical expertise to serve both the Franks and the Ayyubids. Zimo p. 159
- ALT2: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud treated the Christian prince Baldwin of Jerusalem, but as an astrologer sent a message to Baldwin's enemy Saladin prophesizing Saladin's victory? Source: "... he also took a message from his father, a noted astrologer, to Saladin, assuring him that he would conquer Jerusalem." Hamilton p. 186
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Czarodziejski okręt
- Comment: Hamilton describes Abu Khayr in his 2000 book as Abu Sulayman's brother. Other cited sources, as well as Hamilton in his 1980 book, describes Abu Khayr as Abu Sulayman's son.
Surtsicna (talk) 18:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: New article with 2380 characters, well-sourced with inline citations. I reviewed all cited sources for verification; all sources are accessible. No issues with copyvio or tone. All hooks are interesting, well-researched, and properly cited. Thank you for writing about Abu Sulayman, an exceptional figure whose life bridged cultural and religious divides. As an Arab Christian, I appreciate how this article highlights the contributions of Eastern Christians, and Arabs in general in medicine and science. el.ziade (talkallam) 10:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Big Motor
- ... that as part of an insurance fraud scheme, Big Motor employees hit cars with socks stuffed with golf balls?
- Source: (Big Motor) revealed at least 1,275 cases of improper repairs...these involved using screwdrivers and sandpaper to scratch car bodies, hitting vehicles with golf balls put in socks and doing unnecessary paint work. Bigmotor chief to resign in wake of repair fraud scandal, The Japan Times
- ALT1: ... that Tokyo police raided Big Motor's headquarters as part of an investigation about tree killing? Source: 13 at Bigmotor Referred to Prosecutors over Roadside Trees, The Japan News - "Bigmotor officials told Jiji Press in September last year that the company cut down trees and sprayed herbicides...The Tokyo police raided Bigmotor’s headquarters and nine outlets in September last year over the dead trees."
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FossilDS (talk) 19:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting, copyvio free, long enough, recently created, reliable source. Both are passable but the first is far more interesting (and the second is cited into a different source in text).
- However, one issue. I am worried this article is slightly NPOV, in that it has almost no content except the controversies. While their scandals are a key part of the notability I have concerns with running on the front page an article that is only scandal when they do seem to have been otherwise notable, with little historical context or other information on their activities. For comparison, the Japanese article looks more balanced on this front. I don't think anything has to be removed, but maybe add more that isn't scandal? I have no issues otherwise. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @PARAKANYAA:, thank you for the review! I do also agree that the article leans a bit too heavily on the controversies, but almost all Japanese-language sources and all English-languages sources basically only talk about the scandals, so it was a bit difficult finding stuff unrelated to it. I've reorganized the article a bit and added more info from the Japanese article, I hope it's at least somewhat sufficient. I'm also happy with nominating the first DYK instead of ALT1.FossilDS (talk) 16:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- The new changes address my issue. Good to go! PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @PARAKANYAA:, thank you for the review! I do also agree that the article leans a bit too heavily on the controversies, but almost all Japanese-language sources and all English-languages sources basically only talk about the scandals, so it was a bit difficult finding stuff unrelated to it. I've reorganized the article a bit and added more info from the Japanese article, I hope it's at least somewhat sufficient. I'm also happy with nominating the first DYK instead of ALT1.FossilDS (talk) 16:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Kang Ju-hyeok
- ... that footballer Kang Ju-hyeok (pictured) became the youngest player to debut in FC Seoul history at 17 years, 9 months, and 6 days old?
- ALT1: ... that footballer Kang Ju-hyeok (pictured) became the third youngest player to debut in K League history at 17 years, 9 months, and 6 days old? Source: https://www.fourfourtwo.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=55320
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Glomp
✗plicit 13:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article looks good and hook is interesting. Approving with good faith because I cannot speak Korean, although Google Translate verifies the hook. ―Panamitsu (talk) 06:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Carlyle Hotel
- ... that the Carlyle Hotel had to be sold just two years after its completion? Source: Gray, Christopher (October 28, 2001). "Streetscapes/The Carlyle Hotel, 76th Street and Madison Avenue; Art Deco Tower Where President Kennedy Stayed". The New York Times.
- ALT1: ... that the Carlyle Hotel, which had to be sold just two years after its completion, later became the "White House of Manhattan"? Source: Gray, Christopher (October 28, 2001). "Streetscapes/The Carlyle Hotel, 76th Street and Madison Avenue; Art Deco Tower Where President Kennedy Stayed". The New York Times; Talese, Gay (February 7, 1964). "Madison Avenue: A Street of Presidents and Poise". The New York Times
- ALT2: ... that a Carlyle Hotel staffer once lent his own bow tie to Laurence Olivier for a dinner? Source: Agovino, Theresa (November 21, 1988). "Secrets of Carlyle's Success". Crain's New York Business. Vol. 4, no. 47. p. 3.
- ALT3: ... that during the construction of the Carlyle Hotel, the pipes in its bathrooms were changed after its developer's son visited two nearby construction sites? Source: Brenner, Marie (December 19, 1983). "The Inside Story of the Carlyle". New York Magazine. New York Media, LLC. p. 31.
- ALT4: ... that the Carlyle Hotel, once known as the "White House of Manhattan", has also hosted royalty? Source: Talese, Gay (February 7, 1964). "Madison Avenue: A Street of Presidents and Poise". The New York Times; Birmingham, Stephen (March 1, 1992). "New York is Full of Luxury Hotels, but There's Nothing Else Quite Like the Fabled Carlyle-remarkably Comfortable, Distinctively Stylish and Very Discreet". Los Angeles Times. p. 26
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wuhan trolleybus route 1
- Comment: I will probably come up with more hooks later.
Epicgenius (talk) 01:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Certainly updated recently, with a 114k-character expansion, so new enough, and long enough. It is well-sourced and not too closely paraphrased. The hooks are short and interesting. I would go for ALT1, for me it's the most interesting/surprising, but I'm happy with all of them (and who's knows what other hooks are in store). And QPQ has been done. If there is a problem, I cannot find it. Thank you. Cardofk (talk) 21:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Michael O'Kane
- ... that Michael O'Kane never received approval to begin constructing a building for the College of the Holy Cross?
- Source: Kuzniewski, Anthony J. (1999). Thy Honored Name: A History of the College of the Holy Cross, 1843–1994. Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press. pp. 148–149. ISBN 978-0-81320-911-1. Archived from the original on March 25, 2020. Retrieved August 26, 2023 – via Google Books.
Ergo Sum 03:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review - but the current version of ALT0 doesn't seem very clear: is the word 'before' needed? @Ergo Sum: Chaiten1 (talk) 11:38, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Chaiten1: That was a typo. I've fixed it. Ergo Sum 16:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is a newly created article, which is well written, well sourced and has no copyvio issues. The hook is interesting, a good length, and checks out with the source (verified in google books); the hook is appropriately referenced in the article. QPQ has been done. Nice work! Chaiten1 (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 4
[edit]Bunt sind schon die Wälder
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that the melody for the song "Bunt sind schon die Wälder" (Colourful are the forests already) that Johann Friedrich Reichardt (pictured) created in 1799 has remained popular?Source: [34]- Reviewed: David Hilchen
Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC).
- I shall review this. Storye book (talk) 10:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Thank you for this interesting article. I would like to hear this one. A few comments:
- Earwig finds only quotations and proper names. No problem there.
- The hook citation (above) for ALT0 was not in the article, so I added it there. I also gave the article a very minor copyedit. That does not affect this DYK review.
One issue: The citation given above for ALT0 does not confirm popularity. Popularity is mentioned in the name of the website, but not in the main text of the website. Also, the website name says (if I understand correctly) "popular and traditional lieder", so according to that, this piece could be in traditional style (which does not imply popularity). So I think we need to EITHER find another citation OR another hook.Storye book (talk) 11:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Storye book: Not really a fan of the proposed hook, since the context given does not seem to make it clear why it is important that it has remained popular, and the context of it remaining popular is not clear (what is intended by "remained popular"?). I was going to suggest a hook involving Schubert, but the meaning of "different setting" is not clear: does it mean he wrote another melody to the song, or that Reichardt's melody was later re-used by Schubert? If it's the latter then perhaps that could work as a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:39, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- The wording I had in mind was something like "... that the melody of "Bunt sind schon die Wälder" (Colourful are the forests already) by Johann Friedrich Reichardt (pictured) was later used by Franz Schubert?", but I'm not sure if that was the intended context of the "Schubert wrote a different setting" part. That suggestion could probably still be worked on, I just threw it out here for brainstorming purposes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you - both - for thinking. I am open to rewording. Grammar: in German, "und" says that something is both, both traditional and popular", - if it was only one, German would use "oder". As you will have seen, there were multiple melodies, before and after, but this is the one in most publications, recorded, sung. Take Hannes Wader, a singer-songwriter himself: singing that old melody. (yt at the bottom) - Schubert wrote a different setting (= different melody + different piano), which didn't become popular, - note that only one of the uses mentioned has his version, - it remained for art singers and higher school education. What word would you choose instead of "popular" for: is the one that people know and sing? Schubert is really only a side note here, his setting didn't get popular in any sense, it's not Erlkönig. I didn't know he wrote a melody, but now he wrote 700 (as DYK once informed us). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Would it help to add that it was recorded among the "80 most popular Volkslieder" [35]. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:39, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- The new reference given by Gerda Arendt is satisfactory, and it explains the meaning of popularity in the article's context. Gerda, could you please give us an ALT1, and put the
new sentence andcitation in the article? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 08:16, 12 November 2024 (UTC)- Storye bookYou mean a sentence about that collection? (In another nom, someone mentioned "promotional". Anyway, ref added, which supports "remained popular. Will search for more. As a little gift: a children's tv version ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- I added two more indications of popularity, a 2011 poll and a 2017 collection. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0a: ... that the Volkslied "Bunt sind schon die Wälder" (Colourful are the forests already) has remained popular with the 1799 melody by Johann Friedrich Reichardt (pictured)?
- to avoid the impression that only the melody remained popular. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, Gerda. The citation is now in the article, and I approve ALT0a, with image. Storye book (talk) 09:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- The new reference given by Gerda Arendt is satisfactory, and it explains the meaning of popularity in the article's context. Gerda, could you please give us an ALT1, and put the
- The wording I had in mind was something like "... that the melody of "Bunt sind schon die Wälder" (Colourful are the forests already) by Johann Friedrich Reichardt (pictured) was later used by Franz Schubert?", but I'm not sure if that was the intended context of the "Schubert wrote a different setting" part. That suggestion could probably still be worked on, I just threw it out here for brainstorming purposes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Storye book: Not really a fan of the proposed hook, since the context given does not seem to make it clear why it is important that it has remained popular, and the context of it remaining popular is not clear (what is intended by "remained popular"?). I was going to suggest a hook involving Schubert, but the meaning of "different setting" is not clear: does it mean he wrote another melody to the song, or that Reichardt's melody was later re-used by Schubert? If it's the latter then perhaps that could work as a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:39, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Anthony F. Ciampi
- ... that Anthony F. Ciampi (pictured) rebuilt the College of the Holy Cross after it was destroyed by fire in 1852?
- Source: Kuzniewski, Anthony J. (1999). Thy Honored Name: A History of the College of the Holy Cross, 1843-1994. Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press. pp. 77, 103. ISBN 9780813209111. Archived from the original on December 15, 2018. Retrieved December 15, 2018 – via Google Books.
- ALT1: ... that Anthony F. Ciampi (pictured) fought his superiors to rebuild the College of the Holy Cross after it was destroyed by fire in 1852? Source: Kuzniewski, Anthony J. (1999). Thy Honored Name: A History of the College of the Holy Cross, 1843-1994. Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press. pp. 81–82. ISBN 9780813209111. Archived from the original on December 15, 2018. Retrieved December 15, 2018 – via Google Books.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nocturna (band)
Ergo Sum 17:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. Either hook works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Standard-winged nightjar
- ... that during breeding season, the male standard-winged nightjar (pictured) grows a wing ornament over twice the length of its body?
- Source: Cleere, N.; Kirwan, G. M. (2020). del Hoyo, J.; Elliott, A.; Sargatal, J.; Christie, D. A.; de Juana, E. (eds.). "Standard-winged Nightjar (Caprimulgus longipennis), version 1.0". Birds of the World Online. Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, NY. doi:10.2173/bow.stwnig1.01.
21–22 cm (excluding male's "standards", which reach 45–53·5 cm in length)
Reconrabbit 22:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- The article is fine in every respect (long enough, well-written and recently enough promoted to GA), and the hook is good, but it is not backed up by the wording in the article. In the article it simply says that the standards are "much longer" than the body, now "twice the length". There should also be an inline citation supporting the claim directly after the sentence in which it is made. It's a small fix, after which the article should be ready for DYK. Yakikaki (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe that the length given of
a broad secondary flight feather[4] on each wing elongated to up to 53.5 centimetres
makes sense to describe as "twice the length of its body" since earlier the bird's length is given asthis medium-sized (20–23 centimetres (7.9–9.1 in) long) nightjar
and 53.5÷2=26.75 > 23 cm. Though since it's "up to" I could see justifying adding "that can be" after "wing ornament" in the hook. Additionally the quote in the source describes the bird's body as "21-22 cm" and immediately after gives a minimum length of 45 cm with the standards. I could change it to say directly in the article "over twice the length" instead of just "much longer" though. Reconrabbit 00:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe that the length given of
- Sure, I wasn't arguing that the facts were not in the article or not supported by the inline citations. DYK used to have a rule, though, which stated "The facts of the hook need to appear in the article with a citation no later than at the end of the sentences in which they appear." However I see now that the rules have changed and become more flexible, and I can therefore happily drop this minor objection and give the green light to the article. Nice work! Yakikaki (talk) 15:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Yoon Do-young
- ... that Yoon Do-young (pictured) scored his debut goal for Daejeon Hana Citizen 50 seconds into its match against Gwangju FC?
✗plicit 12:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks good to. Both articles new enough, long enough. Hook fact is cited in the flag article. AGF on Korean sources. FaysaLBinDaruL (talk) 16:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 5
[edit]Susan Finnegan
- ... that Susan Finnegan was the first female head of the arachnids section at the Natural History Museum, London, but had to resign her job in order to marry?
- Source: ref 1 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/40233839) - 'Dr. Finnegan also holds the distinction of being the first woman appointed to a post at the Natural History Museum in London. She succeeded Arthur Stanley Hirst .. in 1927' ref 2 (https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/40acbb6f-6b5f-42b4-b75d-4cf24e370a79) - 'the Arachnida Section was ... set up in 1913 .. Hirst .. was succeeded by Susan Finnegan (b. 1903), who continued Hurst's work on Acari until she resigned in 1936 to marry Walter Campbell Smith'
- ALT1: ... that arachnologist Susan Finnegan was the first woman to describe a new group of scorpions? Source: ref 1 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/40233839) - 'Dr. Susan Finnegan who .. is the only female arachnologist to have described a new genus of scorpion'
- ALT2: ... that zoologist Susan Finnegan was the first woman appointed to a post at the Natural History Museum in London? Source: ref 1 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/40233839) - 'Dr. Finnegan also holds the distinction of being the first woman appointed to a post at the Natural History Museum in London. She succeeded Arthur Stanley Hirst .. in 1927'
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Michael O'Kane
Chaiten1 (talk) 10:17, 6 November 2024 (UTC).
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- Cited: - The sources say she left on marrying but not that that was the policy. You might want to consider citing this in reference to the marriage ban policy in British museums.
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Overall: Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 22:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! I have updated as you suggest and also found another reference, by Wyse Jackson & Spencer Jones 'Finnegan was appointed in 1927 and .. left in 1936. This was precipitated by her marriage to W. Campbell Smith, of the Department of Mineralogy in the Museum. He remained in post.' @Mary Mark Ockerbloom: Chaiten1 (talk) 23:34, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nice work! Thanks for adding the sources that confirm it was policy. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 23:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
History of education in Wales (1870–1939)
- ... that educating girls and women in late-19th century Wales was felt to be a way to make them better housewives?
- Source: *Jones, Gareth Elwyn; Roderick, Gordon Wynne (2003). History of Education in Wales. University of Wales Press. ISBN 978-0708318089. (page 99)
- James, Deborah (November 2001). "'Teaching girls': intermediate schools and career opportunities for girls in the East Glamorgan valleys of Wales, 1896—1914". History of Education. 30 (6): 513–526. doi:10.1080/00467600110072114. ISSN 0046-760X. (pages 519–520)
- Jenkins, Beth (2016). "Women's professional employment in Wales 1880-1939" (PDF). Cardiff University. (pages 41, 47, 49)
- ALT1: ... that 38% of Welsh university students in 1900 were woman? Source: Jenkins, Beth (2016). "Women's professional employment in Wales 1880-1939" (PDF). Cardiff University. (page 48)
- ALT2: ... that the songs taught to Welsh Schoolchildren in the late 19th century included Let English boys their duty do and Hurrah for England? Source: Johnes, Martin (2024). Welsh Not: Elementary Education and the Anglicisation of Nineteenth-Century Wales (PDF). University of Wales Press. ISBN 9781837721818. (pages 352–354)
- ALT3: ... that 1930s Welsh schoolchildren were more likely to go to secondary school than their counterparts in England? Source: Jones, Gareth Elwyn; Roderick, Gordon Wynne (2003). History of Education in Wales. University of Wales Press. ISBN 978-0708318089. (pages 128–129)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 2000
Llewee (talk) 23:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- Nice work on this Llewee! Brought to GA on November 5, obviously long enough, very well-written, neutral, decorated with correctly-licensed images. I feel strongly that ALT1 is the most interesting fact here. ALT0 makes me wonder who felt that way—educators? Women? ALT2 doesn't do much for me, and ALT3 is alright. Great work! ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Paora
- ... that following public backlash over Paora the kiwi (pictured) being mistreated, Zoo Miami stated, "We have offended the nation of New Zealand"?
―Panamitsu (talk) 07:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- Hook interesting, article new and long enough with adequate referencing. Hook fact cited inline and verified in the relevant source. QPQ is done. Earwig gives a fairly high number but that is due to attributed quotes which are relevant to the article. Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Panamitsu, have you thought of asking Zoo Miami whether they'd like to donate a free photo to Wikipedia? Maybe as part of their ongoing redemption? I do remember that their publicity officer was rather onto it. And on a different front, I encouraged User:Paora to review this article as that seemed rather appropriate. But obviously, he's missed the boat. Schwede66 07:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: Haha yes it certainly would've been funny if Paora reviewed this nomination. As for the image, I haven't thought of that, although it sounds like a good idea. I prefer not to ask organisations for images so I won't be doing it myself. You are welcome to do it if you wish, although I do realise that you will be more focussed on other projects that are more meaningful to you. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, no problems. I've managed to track down an email address for the zoo's communications director, Ron Magill. I've flicked him an email. Let's see what comes back. Can I suggest that prep promoters sit tight for a few days to see whether the zoo would like to make a photo available? Panamitsu, maybe you'd enjoy giving Magill's bio a bit of a tidy up – it could certainly do with one. Schwede66 08:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Image added, thanks. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:09, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- With regards to image licensing, I need to sort this out with VRT. It’ll take a few days. Schwede66 04:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
The Catholic Spirit
- ... that The Catholic Bulletin scooped the election of Pope Benedict XV?
- Source: "Catholic Bulletin Is 50 Years Old". The Minneapolis Star. 7 January 1961. Retrieved 5 November 2024.
- ALT1: ... that a priest canceled 1,600 subscriptions to The Catholic Bulletin over a front-page photo of nuns dancing? Source: Cohen, Ben (20 September 2008). "Bernard Casserly kept Catholics in the know". Star Tribune. Retrieved 5 November 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95
~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 20:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ is done. Page is long enough and was expanded recently enough. Hooks check out. Personally I prefer ALT1, it's much funnier IMO. Di (they-them) (talk) 21:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's probably best as some things aren't adding up as I dive deeper into the first hook. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 21:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Stuff Matters
- ... that according to the author of Stuff Matters, holding a sample of an aerogel is "like holding a piece of sky"?
- Source: "Most people will never hold a piece of aerogel in their hand, but those who do never forget it. It is a unique experience. There is no weight to it that you can perceive, and its edges fade away so imperceptibly that is impossible to see where the material stops and the air begins. Add to this its ghostly blue color and it really is like holding a piece of sky." Miodownik, Mark. Jan.-Feb. 2015. "Like Holding a Piece of Sky". American Scientist. Vol. 103. No. 1. pp 60-65. (The first page indicates "Excerpted from Stuff Matters by Mark Miodownik")
DrOrinScrivello (talk) 17:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
- Page is long enough and new enough. DYK is done. Hook is interesting and sourced. Looks good! Di (they-them) (talk) 21:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 6
[edit]Tin mining in Indonesia
- ... that water-filled pits (pictured) left behind by tin mining activities in Indonesia have become tourist attractions? Source: [36]
- ... that between 2019 and 2023, thirteen children drowned in water-filled pits (pictured) left behind by tin mining activities in Indonesia? Source: [37]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Paora
- Comment: The normal hook and the pretty dark ALT hook.
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Agreement between Armenia and Azerbaijan respecting the District of Zanghezour
- ... that after signing a peace agreement in 1919, Azerbaijan attempted to invade southern Armenia again in 1920, but the attack was foiled by an Armenian rebellion in Nagorno-Karabakh, which led to the destruction of Shusha's Armenian quarter?
- Source: Saparov, Arsène (2014). From conflict to autonomy in the Caucasus: the Soviet Union and the making of Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Nagorno Karabakh. Routledge.
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Olympian loquere 00:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC).
- Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not required. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 18:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Thriley and Olympian: This is a really interesting subject. I have several concerns for WP:DYKCOMPLETE and WP:NPOV before promotion:
- Until World War I, the Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire controlled the Caucasus, and both collapsed during the war. At least some mention of this would help readers unfamiliar with the region understand the situation better. Right now, I only see this hinted at with "attaining independence from Russia".
- Regarding "In 1920, the region [Zangezur] was invaded by units of the Red Army" why is this in the background, when it discusses events events after the agreement is signed?
- Regarding "In March 1920, the local Armenians revolted with the support of Armenia" the same as above, why include this in the background section?
- Saparov (2014) mentions militias in Nagorno-Karabakh throughout this conflict, I don't see these mentioned in the Wikipedia article. So when it says "the local Armenians", is this referring a widespread uprising or an ongoing military conflict with those militia groups?
- The article quotes a historian saying the agreement was "basically a declaration of intent". Can this article expand on that? What is a declaration of intent? Do historians find evidence that either side intended to build any kind of long-term diplomatic relationship from this? The "Aftermath" section seems to imply the opposite.
- Does the Red Army invasion of Azerbaijan render this agreement moot? It occurs just weeks after the final line of the "Aftermath" section.
- Rjjiii (talk) 01:31, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Rjjiii, I implemented your feedback/exceptions. With regard to the Saparov source, I'm not sure of your concern as he describes the local Armenians who were involved in the rebellion as "rebels" from pages 94–95. The [Armenian] militias, by my understanding, largely operated in Zangezur (a neighbouring, albeit isolated, Armenian-controlled province) which was more-less a part of Armenia at the time. – Olympian loquere 11:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- That resolved all of my concerns. Thanks! Rjjiii (ii) (talk) 14:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Rjjiii, I implemented your feedback/exceptions. With regard to the Saparov source, I'm not sure of your concern as he describes the local Armenians who were involved in the rebellion as "rebels" from pages 94–95. The [Armenian] militias, by my understanding, largely operated in Zangezur (a neighbouring, albeit isolated, Armenian-controlled province) which was more-less a part of Armenia at the time. – Olympian loquere 11:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Thriley and Olympian: This is a really interesting subject. I have several concerns for WP:DYKCOMPLETE and WP:NPOV before promotion:
Articles created/expanded on November 7
[edit]Nikolaus Mollyn
- ... that Nikolaus Mollyn was the first book printer in Riga, the capital of Latvia, and the first to print a book in Latvian within the present-day territory of Latvia? Source: Both Sander and Berthold for the first claim (their articles literally have "first printer of Riga" in their titles); Sander p. 796 for the second claim.
Yakikaki (talk) 16:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: While there's no hard rule or guideline discouraging it, best practice is to try and avoid superlatives if possible because as it turns out, the claim that x is first with y tends to be disputed, controversial, or a matter of opinion in many cases. I'm not sure how to best word it, so perhaps User:RoySmith would care to correct me. Viriditas (talk) 23:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- The way I generally approach these is to consider how reliable the record keeping is and especially if it's possible to enumerate all the possible other examples and show that this one must be first. So, it's a safe statement to say that Neil Armstrong was the first person on the moon because I have exceptional confidence that somebody didn't get there before him and somehow the record of that just got lost. Not so with this example. I'd recommend this be qualified with something like "is believed to be", "the first recorded", or something like that. I've been slowly working on an essay on this topic. It's not complete, but User:RoySmith/essays/First is worst may provide some value. RoySmith (talk) 00:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Yakikaki: I planned to review this and request new hooks per the above, but it failed the very first spot check. I made the change in the article.[38] Please take a moment to review the article and make sure the text to source integrity holds up. Viriditas (talk) 08:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:, @RoySmith: Thanks both for engaging in this review and trying to improve it and the article. First of all, regarding the minor change to the article concerning Mollyn's father and his printing activities in Antwerp: fair enough, the revised wording is closer to the source. I do in general try to avoid phrasing which is too close to the source, as this can be a copyvio issue. In this case I think I also got a bit confused because Mollyn junior was in the same situation later, which is described in detail in the next page of the same article, and since he doubtlessly DID print religious material critical to the Catholic church I made a minor mix-up. So thanks for spotting that. Now to the question of the claim in the hook. Well, I can live with "the first recorded" by all means. I would however like to underline that the claim that he was the first printer in Riga has been put forward at least since 1795 (but of course, since I try to be a serious Wikipedia editor, I would not dream of using a source from 1795 in the actual article) and has not been contested. In fact, all sources – reasonable, academic sources – I've been able to find on the subject confirm the claim. It is not an outlandish or grotesque claim. In fact, it used to be precisely the kind of things one was encouraged to put in DYKs (provided, of course it was properly supported). I understand that in some other cases there may have slipped through one or two claims in DYK which were on closer inspection quite fanciful (and, perhaps, politically motivated or in general sensationalist). I would argue that this is not the case here, and that we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath-water. Yakikaki (talk) 14:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:, @RoySmith: A small addendum: comparing the claim in the hook here with the examples given in Roy's draft essay, I would say this one is comparable, at worst, to the Roger Bannister example. The history of early printing is a thoroughly researched area. We have a good idea at the pace in which printing spread through Europe and 1588 seems in no way unreasonable for the first printing press to have been set up in Riga. Furthermore, it was an undertaking which required financial muscles and was something of a major event in the history of a city, so it usually left a mark in archives etc. So all in all, again, the claim is not extravagant or strange. It is certainly very far from the example of the pub with the traffic lights (a peculiar claim to fame indeed!). Sorry for my wordy replies here but I thought it best to put forward my thoughts and reasoning, to let you know that it wasn't a proposal I hatched on a whim. Yakikaki (talk) 14:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:, @RoySmith: Thanks both for engaging in this review and trying to improve it and the article. First of all, regarding the minor change to the article concerning Mollyn's father and his printing activities in Antwerp: fair enough, the revised wording is closer to the source. I do in general try to avoid phrasing which is too close to the source, as this can be a copyvio issue. In this case I think I also got a bit confused because Mollyn junior was in the same situation later, which is described in detail in the next page of the same article, and since he doubtlessly DID print religious material critical to the Catholic church I made a minor mix-up. So thanks for spotting that. Now to the question of the claim in the hook. Well, I can live with "the first recorded" by all means. I would however like to underline that the claim that he was the first printer in Riga has been put forward at least since 1795 (but of course, since I try to be a serious Wikipedia editor, I would not dream of using a source from 1795 in the actual article) and has not been contested. In fact, all sources – reasonable, academic sources – I've been able to find on the subject confirm the claim. It is not an outlandish or grotesque claim. In fact, it used to be precisely the kind of things one was encouraged to put in DYKs (provided, of course it was properly supported). I understand that in some other cases there may have slipped through one or two claims in DYK which were on closer inspection quite fanciful (and, perhaps, politically motivated or in general sensationalist). I would argue that this is not the case here, and that we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath-water. Yakikaki (talk) 14:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article is new enough and long enough. Earwig shows no problems. First part of the hook verified, second part sourced to Sander (1998) taken on good faith as I don't have access to it. The English is well written and engaging. I recommend altering the hook per RoySmith's suggestion, although I'm not going to hold up this nomination, but others might. I made a small number of minor copyedits.[39] Please review. Viriditas (talk) 02:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
2011 Cullman–Arab tornado
- ... that five out of the six fatalities from the 2011 Cullman–Arab tornado occurred in one house?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ferrari FF
- Comment: Although the source is a bit hard to navigate, the DAT (Damage Assessment Toolkit) is produced by the United States Government, and is overwhelmingly considered reliable.
EF5 22:18, 7 November 2024 (UTC).
- Also, forgot to add an ALT1; ... that five out of the six people killed in the 2011 Cullman–Arab tornado were members of the same family? Source on this can be found here. EF5 22:21, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- A tornado DYK! Calling dibs on reviewing this, looking now. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 23:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Haha, it's always great to see fellow weather enthusiasts! This is one of the more interesting tornadoes I've written about, and definitely one of the more infamous. :) EF5 23:34, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- I picked up on a couple issues during my read-through of the article, and will have to hold off on a fuller review until these are addressed. The second paragraph in §Track_through_Cullman is unsourced, as is the final sentence in that section. Additionally, the second paragraph in §Fairview_and_Hulaco states that a home was completely destroyed at high-end EF4 intensity – this doesn't corroborate with the tornado's stated peak intensity of 175 mph, which is near the middle of the EF4 range. Everything else looks promising so far: both hooks are short, interesting, and cited (though I personally prefer ALT1); a QPQ has been done; and the article is both new enough and long enough, not to mention well-written. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 01:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dylan620: Issues have been addressed. EF5 13:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Much appreciated, EF5. My apologies for the late response – today was busier IRL than I had expected, and I've been having troubles with internet connection at home throughout the day. I am a little concerned that ref 10 (OKC Storm Watcher) is a WordPress blog. I am open to being proven wrong, but the blog appears to fall short of the standards set forth at WP:RSBLOG and WP:EXPERTSPS. The same could be said for ref 23 (AlabamaWX) – however, this seems to be an uncontroversial and harmless archival of a Public Information Statement from the National Weather Service, so I'm not quite as concerned here. Source-text integrity checks out—I am assuming good faith wrt Cullman Times refs 15, 22, and 24, which are dead links—and I cannot detect any instances of plagiarism or close paraphrasing. (High returns on Earwig are false positives resulting from the use of properly attributed public domain text.) I would like for ref 10 to be replaced, or its use justified, before approving the nomination, but that is the only roadblock at this point. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 23:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dylan620: Done. I just removed it, since the claims were backed up by reliable sources. :) EF5 11:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Excellent – I'm happy to approve this. Preference for ALT1, as stated above. Great work, EF5! Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 22:04, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dylan620: Done. I just removed it, since the claims were backed up by reliable sources. :) EF5 11:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Much appreciated, EF5. My apologies for the late response – today was busier IRL than I had expected, and I've been having troubles with internet connection at home throughout the day. I am a little concerned that ref 10 (OKC Storm Watcher) is a WordPress blog. I am open to being proven wrong, but the blog appears to fall short of the standards set forth at WP:RSBLOG and WP:EXPERTSPS. The same could be said for ref 23 (AlabamaWX) – however, this seems to be an uncontroversial and harmless archival of a Public Information Statement from the National Weather Service, so I'm not quite as concerned here. Source-text integrity checks out—I am assuming good faith wrt Cullman Times refs 15, 22, and 24, which are dead links—and I cannot detect any instances of plagiarism or close paraphrasing. (High returns on Earwig are false positives resulting from the use of properly attributed public domain text.) I would like for ref 10 to be replaced, or its use justified, before approving the nomination, but that is the only roadblock at this point. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 23:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Haha, it's always great to see fellow weather enthusiasts! This is one of the more interesting tornadoes I've written about, and definitely one of the more infamous. :) EF5 23:34, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 9
[edit]Chen Dingshan
- ... that Chen Dingshan has been called the last heir of the Mandarin Ducks and Butterflies school?
- Source: Nicole Huang (黃心村) (June 2014). 舊聞新語話春申: 陳定山的上海與台北 [Travels of Minor Narratives: Chen Dingshan's Shanghai and Taipei] (PDF). Journal of Taiwanese Literature (in Chinese) (24): 1–30. Archived from the original (PDF) on 14 April 2021. Retrieved 9 November 2024. (有學者將陳定山定格成遺老形象,說他是「鴛鴦蝴蝶派最後的傳承人」,「延 續了民國舊式文人的一線餘脈」。[Some scholars have characterized Chen Dingshan as an old man, saying that he is "the last inheritor of the Mandarin Duck and Butterfly School" and "continues the remnants of the old-style literati of the Republic of China"])
ALT1: ... that the prolific author and artist Chen Dingshan named a hotel after two actresses?Source: Nicole Huang (黃心村) (June 2014). 舊聞新語話春申: 陳定山的上海與台北 [Travels of Minor Narratives: Chen Dingshan's Shanghai and Taipei] (PDF). Journal of Taiwanese Literature (in Chinese) (24): 1–30. Archived from the original (PDF) on 14 April 2021. Retrieved 9 November 2024. (父親 去世後,陳定山回到老家杭州,曾在西泠橋邊的風水寶地上建過一個「蝶來飯 店」,取名於大明星胡蝶和徐來的名字。開業那天,請來胡蝶和徐來參加剪綵, 轟轟烈烈,一時成為佳話,同時也炒熱了飯店的生意。[After his father passed away, Chen Dingshan returned to his hometown of Hangzhou and built the "Die Lai Hotel" on the Feng Shui treasure land next to Xiling Bridge, named after the famous stars Hu Die and Xu Lai. On the opening day, Hu Die and Xu Lai were invited to participate in the ribbon-cutting ceremony, which was a great success and became a favorite story. It also heated up the hotel's business."])- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Phoebe Plummer (1 of 4)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC).
- New enough (created on 9 Nov), long enough, sources are good, very presentable. Hooks are cited and I confirm the content of the hooks. One bit I might need to pick is that Chen named a "restaurant", not a "hotel", after two actresses, as "飯店" usually refers to restauarants while "酒店" means hotels. So it should be
- ALT1a: ... that the prolific author and artist Chen Dingshan named a restaurant after two actresses?
- Other than that, hooks are quite interesting. I would also prefer that you clarify in the original hook that the Mandarin Ducks and Butterflies School is a school of literature, but that's up to personal discretion. QPQ confirmed.
- Finally, I wish to use this space to say a big thank you for writing the "brother article" of Chen Xiaocui! Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 19:17, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the kind words! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)