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Richard B. Hetnarski Wikipedia Page - 7/1/21

Piotrus,

I have added a number of citations where you indicated they were needed in addition to other places. I fear I have "over cited" the article as the list of References is longer than the article. I also removed general statements which I could not verify. Is this sufficient for me to remove the inline [citation needed} notations and are there other modifications that should be made.

Thanks for all your patience and help regarding this article. Cayman42 (talk) 20:08, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Cayman42, Thank you for improving the article. I don't think it is overcited, the high citation density is considered a quality indicator - take a look at recent Wikipedia:Featured articles. I'd encourage you to 1) submit your article for the Wikipedia:Good article review and 2) add more images (I created the https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Richard_B._Hetnarski ). Even if there is no room in the article to host all images, Wikimedia Commons is a media repository that will last as long as Wikipedia is (which is, likely much longer than most commercial or private equivalents). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:11, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Sabacc

On 7 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sabacc, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that neither holochess (dejarik) nor sabacc, two games invented for the Star Wars films, have a definitive ruleset despite several real-world licensed releases? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sabacc. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Sabacc), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Dejarik

On 7 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dejarik, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that neither holochess (dejarik) nor sabacc, two games invented for the Star Wars films, have a definitive ruleset despite several real-world licensed releases? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sabacc. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Dejarik), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Zygmunt Krasiński

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Zygmunt Krasiński you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Amitchell125 -- Amitchell125 (talk) 18:40, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Zygmunt Krasi?ski

The article Zygmunt Krasi?ski you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Zygmunt Krasi?ski for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Amitchell125 -- Amitchell125 (talk) 18:42, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

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DYK for Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz

On 21 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during the 1940 Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz, all the male inhabitants of the occupied Polish town, Jews and non-Jews alike, were subjected to hours of abuse by German soldiers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy

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Discretionary sanctions

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Deprod of Riders of the Range (comic strip)

Hi, I deprodded Riders of the Range (comic strip) because a quick Google revealed sources, so there clearly is room for improvement before deletion should be considered. Best wishes NemesisAT (talk) 17:06, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Deprodding of Prince Nathan

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Tautomers, I appreciate your alerts. I'd like to encourage you to review such articles and consider AFDing them if you think they are not notable, if you have time and will to research them and go through this process. Ps. I asked the editor who removed those template not to do so: [1]. Feel free to comment there as well. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:58, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

I probably won't as I don't want to get overly involved, and I have other things going on that I am focusing my energy on. For now, notifying the removal of prods is my core intention since it is quick, easy, and fair. Generally speaking, I don't want to propose AfD's unless it's a very cut and dry case, or it is on a subject where I am familiar with. If at some point me leaving the notes here gets annoying or tiresome, let me know and I'll stop. I also don't intend nor want to speak with the editor in question as I find it entirely pointless and wasteful since there is no intention to change or listen on their part. Though, I'll do so if it is brought up as a broader discussion where community is weighing in, but only to share my opinion, not argue with him. --Tautomers_{(T C)} 08:06, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Second opinion

Greetings, Piotrus. I was looking at Draft:Festival of Extraordinary Movies and Personalities, and it appears to me that the first two sources are not actually independent, but I am by no means an expert, so I thought I'd get your more experienced opinion in this area. Thanks, and happy editing! -2pou (talk) 03:01, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for checking in with me! [2] doesn't even mention the subject, and is very niche (small university-level news from the section 'for students'). [3] is similar but at least mentions the Festival in a single sentence. Leaving borderline COI aside, neither source is SIGCOV and I'd say the topic, with these sources given, fails WP:GNG by a longshot. Whether the topic (pl:Festiwal Filmów-Spotkań NieZwykłych) is notable, hmmm, I see better sources in some Polish media, reporting from individual editions, like [4] and others ([5]). If we treat such coverage as sufficient for notability, the event is notable, but this article needs better sourcing. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:52, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Deprodding of Multiple Articles

I am leaving this message to let you know that the articles: Trot (Oz), Queen Lurline, Ojo the Lucky, John Dough, Billina, Kabumpo, and Jinnicky the Red Jinn that you tagged for Proposed Deletion were removed by another user, and they failed to leave a note on your talk page about it. They also appear to not have given any reason for doing so. This can be seen in the articles edit history. As you were not informed, I have taken it upon myself to leave this here so you may consider either perusing Articles for Deletion (as they are from the same topic a bundle may be appropriate), or improving and tagging the article with Edit Templates as adding a new PROD is not permitted. Kind regards, --Tautomers_{(T C)} 19:55, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

For these articles you tagged in Category:Oz (franchise) characters, I suggest you propose mergers to List of Oz characters (created by Baum) or List of Oz characters (post-Baum), as the case may be. Goustien (talk) 05:44, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Goustien, Good idea. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:48, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

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Requesting contribution

Can you help improving History of the Jews in Odessa? We can nominate it to DTK once it has better sources. Ratnahastin(t.c) 05:19, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Ratnahastin, It seems DYKable now, I can review it. Mind you, please make sure all content is referenced, I do see some unreferenced paragraphs. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:29, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

I just started the nomination [6] but for some strange reason there is some error. Can you help fixing it? Ratnahastin(t.c) 08:04, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Ratnahastin, Hmmm, a weird error. Did you use the script I recommended? It makes things much easier. I'd recommend you ask for your current unfinished nom page to be deleted (you can do so here: WP:AN) and then try again using the script. Please let me know if you have any more questions or troubles. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:35, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Its working now [[7]].Ratnahastin(t.c) 05:35, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

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Declined PROD

Hello, I declined the prod at Cyber-Complex Foundation because there appears to be room for expansion from the Polish Wikipedia entry, and because it is newly established and active and thus likely to attract more attention in the future. NemesisAT (talk) 21:48, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

NemesisAT, Neither of those is related to WP:GNG, and note the Polish Wikipedia has an AfD about it and so far only the creator is defending it. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:07, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

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DYK

Hi @Piotrus:.

Sorry to bother you but I was wondering whether you could review Template:Did you know nominations/Sigismund III Vasa. The article has been upgraded to a GA status yesterday and I am not sure whether I have completed the DYK nomination correctly. Merangs (talk) 04:17, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Will do :) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:38, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

täglich

DYK - my thinking - is for the things not known, and a cantata not yet printed (but recorded and performed) is exactly that. If it was by Bach, not Erlebach, there would be no doubt about a great discovery. Thank you for no AfD, because you are probably right. Will translate the Polish bass today, - help needed ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:58, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Question

After I made my comment at ARCA here, it occurred to me that you might have entertained the proposal to postpone discussion (for reasons I am uncertain of). Do you no longer intend to follow up the response/justification? Ncmvocalist (talk) 21:22, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Ncmvocalist, Thank you for asking, but no, I see no reason at all to delay this. In fact, I find it shocking that the answer to what I think is both a key and also very simple question would not be given instantly; it seems to me almost as if this is a case of "I'll delay replying until I know what is the safest way of saying so" or such. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:53, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK Review: DOMELRE

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DYK nomination of The Witcher (Dark Horse Comics)

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Talk page message reply

Thank you for the warm welcome. I have already joined WikiProject Poland (^{see on the members list}) and I will happily continue contributing to this great platform. MatEditzWiki (talk) 09:02, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy

On 10 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy contains an idiosyncratic selection of topics, from "Aliens in Space" to "Rats and Mice"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Jan Malkiewicz

Hello

Can you tell me from your experience why Draft:Jan Malkiewicz is not ency? PMG (talk) 14:14, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

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Genshin Impact

Regarding your comments on the Genshin Impact GA nomination talk page, I thought you might be interested to know that Draft:Characters of Genshin Impact exists. Just FYI. Haleth (talk) 12:47, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Haleth, Good find. I'd argue this is very much needed in the article, although I am not convinced we need a stand-alone article. The reception section regarding controversies about dark-skinned "exotic" characters is quite interesting too. Is this mentioned in the current article? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:53, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

A single paragraph under controversies. A list article is fine for all intents and purposes if and when the main Genshin Impact article grows in size, as long as a common selection criteria is properly defined at its inception. My understanding is that the game has only reached about 40% of the developmental roadmap and story content is constantly uploaded piecemeal through patches. As long as there is a dedicated developmental and reception section, I don't see why a standalone article can't be done provided the in-universe stuff is regulated with emphasis on brevity. As you have pointed out, and speaking from the perspective of someone who witnessed it firsthand, a lot of money is invested by players into the acquisition of new characters. And because the game is so successful, coverage is inevitable. Haleth (talk) 13:09, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Haleth, I probably wouldn't AfD the separate article, my main point is that this info needs to be in the current article if it is to be a GA. Unless the stand-alone article is published and linked appropriately. Btw, do you play it? I am not ashamed to admit I do :P _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:49, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Not really, but my brother has been playing it obsessively since its launch almost a year ago. I think he's spent more money for in-game currency to spend on the pool of characters then what I've spent on the dozens and dozens of games I've played since the pandemic began. Anyway, the GA nomination appears to be over as the nominator has not been meeting expectations by staying on top of their editing to address the recommendations for improvement. Haleth (talk) 14:38, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Section heading changed

Hi. I saw your post (Special:Diff/1038204284) at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case, specifically regarding your ANI section heading (side note: heading was changed later by party I haven't identified and with no explanation I was made aware of). I have absolutely no desire to get involved with anything, but just so you know the section heading was changed in Special:Diff/1037825309. Hope this helps --DannyS712 (talk) 05:33, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@DannyS712 Thank you. I have no desire to pursue this beyond pointing out to User:HighInBC that it would be best practice to ping me (the creator of the original heading); also - such a change breaks some redirects, such as the one from BHG's own block log (which now fails to point to the correct section). There may be a template fix for the latter problem, and I'd encourage HighInBC to research how to fix this. Cheers, _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Discovery One and BRD

It's a bit rich that you cite WP:BRD at me in this edit on the talk page when it is you who are not following it. You added a template, I reverted you, then you re-reverted. That is not BRD, and going to the talk page afterwards does not make it BRD. SpinningSpark 09:04, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Bettelmann

I put a comment in the talk page for Bettelmann. I think you might be interested. Slimy asparagus (talk) 06:51, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Statue of Ivan Konev

On 14 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Statue of Ivan Konev, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the vandalism and eventual removal of the statue of Ivan Konev (pictured) in Prague has negatively impacted recent Czech Republic–Russia relations? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Statue of Ivan Konev in Prague. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Statue of Ivan Konev), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Political prisoners in Poland

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DYK for Zygmunt Krasiński

On 15 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zygmunt Krasiński, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Zygmunt Krasiński, one of Poland's Three Bards, published most of his works anonymously and was known as the Anonymous Poet of Poland? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zygmunt Krasiński. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Zygmunt Krasiński), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Worlds of Magic

On 16 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Worlds of Magic, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 2015 video game Worlds of Magic, intended as a spiritual successor to the classic game Master of Magic, failed to impress most reviewers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Worlds of Magic. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Worlds of Magic), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Soviet occupation of Ukraine

I'm sorry to bother you, but I want to ask for help in defending this article. Pro-Russian forces want to remove it. :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jafaz (talk • contribs) 18:31, August 16, 2021 (UTC)

Aha. Congrats on getting yourself topic banned with WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality. I'll pass on joining you, however. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:28, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Arbitration case request declined

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DYK for The Witcher (Dark Horse Comics)

On 19 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Witcher (Dark Horse Comics), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that although its publisher Dark Horse Comics is American, a significant proportion of artists involved with the comic book series The Witcher have been Polish? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Witcher (Dark Horse Comics). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Witcher (Dark Horse Comics)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Schwede66 12:02, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	For your superb contributions to Earth in science fiction. (And for taking over 60+ seconds to load your edit count, i.e. having over 200k edits! ) ––𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗗𝘂𝗱𝗲 talk 06:44, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, mate, it has been a surprisingly long time since someone said something nice about my writing :) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:03, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

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Konieczny

You created it and neglected since then:-). I accidentally stumbled upon some good sources, so you may take a look. Lembit Staan (talk) 03:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Nurmuhemmet Tohti

On 26 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nurmuhemmet Tohti, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the death of Uyghur writer Nurmuhemmet Tohti has been linked to mistreatment in the Xinjiang internment camps, a claim China denies? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nurmuhemmet Tohti. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Nurmuhemmet Tohti), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Yuggoth AfD

Had you noticed this? I've suggested to the editor in question that deleting sourcing during an AfD, regardless of its quality, is quite hard to justify. Do you have thoughts? Jclemens (talk) 00:01, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@Jclemens I agree that while AfD is ongoing it's best not to delete referenced content. Unreferenced content can be however removed at any point with WP:V in mind. I've also seen editors rewrite articles during AfD, that can include major TNTing, although that is better done at the point there is at least rough consensus this is the right point of action. (examples that come to mind from recent memory: Earth in science fiction, Chinese proverbs). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:04, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Oh, to be sure... deleting un- or under-sourced text isn't the issue. If anything, a better text:source ratio makes a page look more notable without changing a thing on the sourcing issue. I just tend to think that even if something is REFBOMB'ed to death... let the AfD run its course before dealing with questionable sourcing (that's not obviously violating copyright or other insta-fix problems, of course), which doesn't seem to be what's happened here or in a couple of others I've brought up at WT:AfD... Jclemens (talk) 06:13, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@Jclemens Yep, I agree. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:16, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

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Something for you!

	Order of the Virtuti Militari
	Thank you taking an interest in the articles I created on the defenders of Westerplatte. They are my first so they aren't without their faults lol. I will be sure to seek advice from you if I need help. In the meantime...have this. Bob Ross Lives (talk) 01:40, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy

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DYK for Earth in science fiction

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August songs

Thank for good DYK reviewing in August! I liked yesterday's Main page, with 4 bolded names I brought there, all in memory: the TFA, nominated for a missed user, the pictured DYK (Alfred Biolek), and two under Recent deaths, Siegfried Matthus and Teresa Żylis-Gara. August harvest. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy

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Komi (go) PROD

This article has obviously been neglected, but the topic is a major one for go. You might note that it exists in 12 Wikipedia language versions. The Japanese one, for example, has a number of sensible references. I have removed the PROD nomination and other tags. Charles Matthews (talk) 04:38, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Charles Matthews Thank you for improving the article, I am fine with removal of the tags if the issues are addressed, and it seems they have been, more or less. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:22, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for DOMELRE

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Your GA nomination of The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy

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ANI for JPL

Thank you for your attempt to be helpful with your inquiry in Why was JPL blocked?. Unlike you, I do have a personal interest in the matter, so I'm not sure it would have been appropriate or helpful for me to contribute to the discussion of that incident if I had learned about it while it was open. But your comment lead me to your "Morsels of wikiwisdom", and I think they're helpful write-ups, even if I'm saddened by the implications of the section "On the most dangerous of mindsets" and the following ones for the case that brought me here. DavidLeeLambert (talk) 17:07, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@DavidLeeLambert I am glad you found them useful (even if I think some need a bit of rewrite). I hope JPL will be ok, as I feel they were treated unfairly by the admins (unless there was private evidence involved, but no indication of this was made). In either case, JPL knows, I hope, they can ask me for help, and since they have not done so I assume they don't feel like they need me to push more on this - particularly as I feel admonished - or even threatened - by some admins involved, who seem to have felt offended that I, a non-admin, dared to question how this was dealt with. And I have little desire to walk on that minefield for no good reason :( PS. Just to be clear, I am not saying JPL did no wrong, nor that a block might not have been eventually justified - I got involved in this by accident and commented because as far as I could tell, the block was given too quickly (in 24h), and its scope was too large (again, given the evidence of wrongdoing presented, which seems to be a single PA-violating diff). As I was recently involved in a discussion concerning an admin, for whom much more diffs of PA violations were presented, and that discussion lasted two weeks and ended up with a warning, I feel there are different standards used for different editors, and this saddens me greatly. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:03, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz

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Requested move

Hello Piotrus. You have educational background associated with Sociology of the Internet; at Talk:Polandball is interesing discussion about changing name of the article, maybe this one could be interesing for you. Cheers. Dawid2009 (talk) 19:51, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

@Dawid2009 Thanks for the ping. Old story, sure, I'll take a look, I am familiar with this topic. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:32, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz

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Your GA nomination of Bloody Wednesday of Olkusz

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Jadis (Walking Dead)

I removed the merge based on major new news about the character breaking after the proposal - the announcement of Jadis return to the franchise with the statement by Scott Gimple that "she is a big part of connecting the CRM and Three Circles mythology that's seen throughout all three series", the multiple positive third party coverage of this, the fact Jadis appears in two shows within the universe, the fact she was last seen taking off an injured Rick in a CRM helicopter and is now seen as part of the CRM in the trailer, means that the importance of the character has definitely increased as has media coverage since the original merge proposal. There's also the upcoming movies (assuming they actually happen) with Polyanna McIntosh confirmed to have a role in the movies as Jadis/Anne. I have added some additional references and googling for "Jadis Walking Dead" provides an enormous number of suitable sources to further flesh out the article. I certainly won't revert if anyone adds merge proposal back but it is my view that the character is of major importance ongoing and that seems to be backed by many suitable references. Citizensmith (talk) 17:50, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

@Citizensmith Thank you for the explanation. Before I support an AfD I'll do another WP:BEFORE, but right now neither of the four characters I proposed the merge for meets WP:GNG. In general unless we can write a more significant reception, I am skeptical whether articles on fictional entities deserve stand-alone articles. Not everyone is as strict as me, of course :) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:34, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Viewpoint understood. Sadly we can't teleport to the end of the season to see how important or not Jadis will be to the last acts of The Walking Dead :-) Citizensmith (talk) 03:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

@Citizensmith Worst case, the article can always be restored (I will always support WP:SOFTDEL over any hard del). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:11, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Just a bit of rambling and definitely Original Research but thought this might at least amuse you and why I logged back into Wikipedia :-)

As you've been involved with military articles though it might interest you that the mysterious CRM don't just do small helicopters. At least 4 Chinooks were used in one operation (10 years in) seen on World Beyond so they have orders of magnitude more resources than any other group including the Commonwealth. The highest ranking member we have seen so far talks with a British accent and has the Union Jack (or Union Flag if you prefer) in her functional piped gas kitchen above the functional tv. They seem to be introducing something completely different from the comics. The idea that somewhere some part of high tech government and military never fell. They have spies everywhere. Jadis had luxury fully furnished containers with electricity, water etc. hidden inside the garbage - not to mention her own helicopter landing pad!

They have research facilities experimenting on zombies and perhaps even radio controlled exploding zombies - Okay that might be jumping the shark :-)

I'm fascinated with where they are going with (and why they wipe out colonies including their own for no good reason) this but could be a big let down. Anyway it got me to login again after years away! Citizensmith (talk) 20:23, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Better add, no I absolutely have no connection with the show. Watched it and spin-offs more for a laugh in recent times so am actually surprised there may be a coherent interesting destination for all shows emerging. Citizensmith (talk) 00:07, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

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Hello Piotrus. I noticed that you recently added Template:Notability to a number of Films. Films follow their own notability parameter, show please add "Notability|Film|date=September 2021" as the template itself suggests. Dimadick (talk) 21:56, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try to remember this for the future. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:15, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Easily one of my favorite AfD discussions of all times

The Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wikimedia movement discussion sounded really frustrating, but I had a nice laugh the entire time at the pedantry and Wikilawyering. The suggestions to nominate Earth and Humans seem like viable next steps. I enjoyed reading your article and passionate arguments about messiness of social movement sociology and academic writing. ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:37, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

@Shushugah I am glad to hear that. Incidentally, I've been recently involving in rewriting Earth in science fiction, and while Humans won't be deleted, we did just delete (redirect) Earthling... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:17, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

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Do you have these books at home?

This makes me wonder whether these are references you possess. Now I know who to bother when I'm looking for sci-fi detail. I think your BEFORE was well presented. BusterD (talk) 19:31, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

@BusterD Thank you. If you count ebooks as "having books at home", then yes, for all but the Greenwood one (also, two of those are online) (and since all but the Visual... are OCRed it makes searching inside even better). . Further good news: you can get them yourself too - thanks to the Z-library. See also related discussion here. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:11, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Wpis o Banku Gospodarki Żywnościowej

Dzień dobry Nie chcemy integracji wpisów. Wpis o BGŻ wyświetla się nieprawidłowo w wyszukiwarkach internetowych na hasła brandowe związane z BNP Paribas - chcemy pojawiać się w wyszukiwarkach zawsze jako BNP Paribas. Bardzo proszę o ustawienie przekierowania. Pozdrawiam

Chcemy to znaczy kto? Jeśli reprezentujecie BNPP, sugeruje zgłosić problem do pl:WP:BAR. A następnie dokonać wsparcia projektu, który opiera się na dotacjach od osób prywatnych i firm. Potem możecie się tym pochwalić marketingowo. Per [8]: "Jeśli ktoś używa Wikipedii, to uważam, że jego obowiązkiem etycznym jest albo przekazywać Wikipedii donacje, albo wspomagać ją swoją pracą: czy to poprawieniem przecinka, czy dopisaniem zdania, akapitu, hasła. ". --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:52, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Szanuję Pańskie zdanie, jednak dotacje dla Wikipedii nie są obowiązkowe. Jeśli Wikipedia daje możliwość zgłoszenia potrzeby ustawienia takiego przekierowania swoim czytelnikom, to bardzo proszę o wskazanie podstawy do odmowy wykonania takiego przekierowania.

DYK for Polish proverbs

On 22 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Polish proverbs, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that there are tens of thousands of Polish proverbs, the oldest known of which dates to the year 1407? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Polish proverbs. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Polish proverbs), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde (Talk) 00:02, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Piotrus, for this interesting article.--Ipigott (talk) 08:41, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on Australia and the UK in Iraq and Afghanistan Op-ed: Nick-D on writing about military procurement

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Hi!

Hi Piotrus!

Long time, no see ;) I found something interesting about Lucjan Żeligowski, which piqued my interest and could pique yours too. I found an article from 1955 in the Lithuanian magazine Tėvynės sargas, link to its scanned pages here, which had translated excerpts from parts of Żeligowski's memoirs in the Niepodległość III magazine which were released by the Józef Piłsudski Institute in London. These are the pages: 68, 69, 70, 71, 72. Here is the interesting bit (first in Lithuanian):

1920 spalių 9 d. su kariuomene, sudaryta Lietuvos ir Gudijos sūnų, užėmė Vilnių ne lenkų generolas Želigovskis, bet lietuvis Želigovskis, tas kuris būdamas vaikiščiu ateidavo iš Župronių į Vilnių mokyklos egzaminams ir nakvodavo ant miesto parkų suolų. <...> Tad nebuvau atsitiktinis atsiplakėlis Lietuvoje, o mano giminė turi ilgas tradicijas ir tarnavo tėvynės gynyboj. Mano svajonė buvo gyventi su tautiečiais Vilniaus žemėj. Neskirsčiau jų į lenkus, gudus ir žemaičius. Būdamas lietuviu, niekad nebuvau nustojęs būti lenku. Šios dvi sąvokos yra tarpusavy susipynusios. Jos viena kitą papildo. Visa tai kalbu dėl to, kad įrodyčiau, jog visa tai buvo kažkas daugiau, negu lenkų generolo Vilniaus užėmimo akcija.

In English: "On 9 October 1920, with the army, made up of the sons of Lithuania and Gudija (old Lithuanian name for Belarus), Vilnius was occupied not by the Polish general Żeligowski, but by the Lithuanian Żeligowski, who came as a child from Župroniai to Vilnius for school exams and spent the night on the benches of city parks. <... paragraph with examples from his ancestors fighting for Lithuania...> So I was not an accidental out-of-nowhere in Lithuania, but my family has a long tradition and served in the Fatherland's defence. My dream was to live with my countrymen in the Vilnius region. I did not divide them into Poles, Belarusians and Samogitians. As a Lithuanian, I never stopped being Polish. These two concepts are intertwined. They complement each other. I am talking about all this in order to prove that it was all more than a Polish general's seizure of Vilnius."

Interesting food for thought.--Cukrakalnis (talk) 20:30, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

@Cukrakalnis Indeed, interesting. I suggest you post this on his talk page for others to see. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:57, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Just did that. --Cukrakalnis (talk) 13:12, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Space travel in science fiction

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DYK for Political prisoners in Poland

On 26 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Political prisoners in Poland, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Poles who fought in the Russian Partition during the January Uprising were detained as political prisoners in Magdeburg and Graudenz, Prussia, even though the uprising never crossed the border? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Political prisoners in Poland. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Political prisoners in Poland), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Off the verandah

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Žukauskas

Hello Piotrus, (my dear tag-teammate pal :) ) I would like to learn your view here.[9] It's regarding Sivestras Žukauskas and his apparent Polish roots. When you get a chance, no rush. Thanks - GizzyCatBella🍁 10:07, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Huh. I looked at the article, it seems pretty well written. His Polish roots are of minor importance and are mentioned in his early biography section, that's probably enough? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:55, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, that’s what I think too. - GizzyCatBella🍁 16:28, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

AfD nominations

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Your GA nomination of Dejarik

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oikaterion

You asked to be pinged. I was able to check the source quoted by one of the websites. The author Thayer is said to have been a Unitarian, so that the modern introduction advises caution, but a work of 1835 that is still being reprinted and cited is clearly worthy of being regarded as "reliable". Do not bother to reply. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:21, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Some assistance needed.

I accepted the draft for Bernardine Church of Our Lady Queen of Peace in Bydgoszcz on the basis of the references from the Polish WP. I've been challenged over my inaccuracy on some other acceptances, and I would be exceedingly grateful if you could confirm that I did this right. DGG ( talk ) 19:52, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

@DGG The topic is notable, reasonably well written and referenced enough not to be deleted. I think this is fine for the mainspace, even if it has issues such as insufficient footnotes that make it illegible for DYK/GA status at present. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:14, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Space travel in science fiction

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Your GA nomination of Dejarik

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DYK for Academese

On 11 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Academese, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that academese has been criticized for being unnecessarily complex and in extreme cases, purposefully discriminating and obfuscating? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Academese. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Academese), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

I've been loving your DYKs recently - marvellous prose. No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:30, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Your hook reached 10,855 views (452.3 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of October 2021—nice job! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 03:06, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Space travel in science fiction

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deletion of new article Allstar PZL Glider

Thank you for your message!

I am new in Wikipedia. Before you decide with other Wikipedians to delete this article, I want to give you my opinion, why this article should stay in the English Wikipedia. I would be very happy if you could give me the chance to make this article better. The main critic is that the text does not meet the notability guidelines for companies and organizations and it should be proofed by reliable second sources.

First I want to explain why this article is part of the modern polish and international history of aviation in the special field of gliders.

Second I want to explain, which reliable second sources I have used. I put a lot of effort into this research.

1. Polish companies play an important role in the history of gliding and sailplanes, which is going back to the 1940s. The state owned development centre and glider production PZL /SZD company was the biggest in the world in the 1970s. Unfortunately, PZL Bielsko had to open an insolvency proceedings in 1996 after the changes in at the end of the 1980s. A few small polish companies are continuing this heritage. The history and development of modern polish gliders of the last 30 years is not displayed in Wikipedia. These companies as ”type certificate holder” are responsible in technical aspect for a huge fleet of thousands of gliders which are flown worldwide by different pilots. The glides have been produced before 1990 and after. Young polish glider aviation industry takes a important role nowadays in the international glider pilot community. For example, the world champion ship of aerobatic gliding is hold with the polish glider Swift S-1 and MDM-1 Fox by one of this companies which started the design in the 1990s. Allstar PZL Glider is one of them and is situated on the original grounds auf PZL Bielsko. The second country with a history of glider innovation and production is Germany, which goes back to the Second World War. A few companies (smaller than PZL) took part in the development of German aviation industry. This companies are still operating ad some were founded in the 1990s or took over other glider companies. Six of them, have their own English Wikipedia article. In comparison to this only one modern Polish glider company has its own article in Wikipedia. Both countries have important role in the innovation of gliding. I think the modern history should be represented equally.

2. This article can be proofed by second sources only, without quoting from the official company web page. Four different second sources from specialised publication were used for this article. Unfortunately, no English scientific book about modern Polish glider history has been published jet. Nobody else than the tow Polish authors Krzysztof Luto and Tomasz Murawski has written so much details about the last 30 years of Polish and SZD glider history. Tomasz Murawski has published detailed technical articles about the engineering process and the related history in several of his scientific books. His books from 2016 until 2021 are important resources of information. Krzysztof Luto is author of the biggest polish aircraft web page , which have been quoted several times in Wikipedia. Another field of second sources are the different European aviation magazines. For example, the English magazine “Sailplane & Gliding” by the British Gliding Association. It is an association for regulation and operation gliding in the UK for clubs and pilots. The German magazine “Aerokurier” specialized on private aviation by the publisher “Motorsport Presse Stuttgart” is independent, too. If this sources are not enough the Danish “Nordig Gliding” magazine from the “national flyverforbund” can be quoted in addition.

I am happy to shorten and rewrite the article and give other quotations for the topics in the article.

I would much appreciate, if you can give an answer to this message. Beeing new in Wikipedia, I have not understand fully how "WP:ECHO" works. I would be happy to get you reply on my talk page, because i do not want to miss it.

P.glider (talk) 16:51, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Companion to J.R.R. Tolkien GAN

Piotrus, I'm a bit surprised you're nominating this without even asking me. I wrote the article and am currently putting other Middle-earth articles through GAN; this one was due to join them in due course. I'd really be glad if you could withdraw given your minor involvement, basically just at the DYK stage. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:56, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Source check request

Greetings,

following up from the conversation at User talk:Iridescent, can I ask you to check if the additions here are supported by the source? I don't know any Polish myself and I don't know about the DeepL tool's reliability for Polish->English. Source should be publicly available. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:44, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus I checked those parts and they seem correct, all good :) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:38, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:21, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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Halo Array

Could you open a GAR discussion about Halo Array? It contains a lot of issues, several unsourced statements, and has no reception section either, which it probably fails WP:GNG, thanks. 59.13.196.69 (talk) 21:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Why don't you do it yourself? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:30, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Kaczyzm

On 30 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kaczyzm, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Kaczyzm is a pejorative term describing the political ideology of Polish politicians Lech and Jarosław Kaczyński and their Law and Justice party? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kaczyzm. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Kaczyzm), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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ANI, ARS

I don't know who you are talking about here but it took me about an hour (maybe 2?) to put together the proposal that, at the moment, seems to be leading to a topic-ban. I think, if you want something to be done ever, this would be a good moment to make a similar proposal. (Obviously, as the second one shows, it must be thought out at least a little bit.) --JBL (talk) 00:36, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

@JayBeeEll Hmmm. Ok, I took a stab, although it took me several hours to produce something that meets my standards of evidene. Let's see if this solves anything. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:33, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Did you ping me?

I've long since given up hope of solving that particular area of the encyclopedia with sanctions for the disruptive conduct of the users involved, since to non-specialists (virtually all of the admin corps when it comes to any particular topic) it tends to look like one "side" trying to "get rid of their opponents". Yeah, it's unfortunate that they can create as much trouble for the rest of us as they do on, for example, Talk:Mottainai, but I've become resigned to the belief that it's just something whose continued existence we have to tolerate. Anyway, for some reason I can't find where you pinged me (your comment beginning While I am still not convinced we can solve much here...?), but I might not be much help anyway. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:03, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

@Hijiri88 I quoted you and/or linked a diff if yours in the section Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Proposal_#3:_Topic_ban_or_other_restrictions_for_Andrew_Davidson. You may not find it with a CTRL+F as I collapsed my lenghty evidence sections for readability, sorry. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

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GA Notice
Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article Earth in science fiction that you recently nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. ––FormalDude talk 07:47, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
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Since we lack an "Addition by Subtraction" barnstar ...

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For your able and comprehensive collection of evidence, and your eloquent proposal, in AD's tban. Ravenswing 21:39, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

ANI

The more you do, the more diffs there are to collect and Andrew has done much. I am sure has been over the line a few times. I think we can all support something short of a full Neutering. I mean nobody wants to be a Eunuch. :o

I was off last year and it seems the feud between the two sides has turned into something more. I know I had a part in that based on my own interactions. This is like a blood feud now. Like nothing short of exile will be acceptable. But maybe something short could be?

I know you are a thoughtful person and a careful editor - I avoided most of your AfDs recently because I knew you reasoned them out ...and you know a lot more than me about the area you work on. Andrew is one of my friends on this project - he edits in areas away from me. I am not his keeper just as he is not mine. But I know Andrew has to be in quiet reflection now. Like I am.

Cheers and best wishes! Lightburst (talk) 22:41, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

@Lightburst Like I said at ANI, I'd prefer more nuanced, tailored restrictions, but it "takes two to tango", for better or worse, and I have yet to see Andrew acknowledge any form of criticism. He has never, ever, acknowledged he might have been wrong, that his sources are off topic, or that proving summaries for deprods might be a good idea. If you want to mediate, that's great, but I don't think I am the one who needs to be convinced to make amends here. If you can convince Andrew to promise some voluntary restrictions, it may help to prevent the harshest outcomes. But again, it's not me you should be talking to, I already said I prefer lighter remedies at ANI. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:04, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

You wrote a powerful proposal and I am just glad you did not write mine. I am sure I will not get concessions and friction goes back a decade. I have not even been here long enough to know for sure why he is referred to as Colonel. Lightburst (talk) 01:15, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

@Lightburst Re, Colonel, this is because User:Colonel Warden (registered in 2006) was Andrew's old account. Regarding powerful proposals, well, I just collected some evidence, and sadly, I have some experience doing so. Frankly, nothing to be envious, it's a depressing skill, really. I'd much rather spend those few hours writing a new DYK than collecting evidence, partiularly as I do know that Andrew is trying to help in his own way. Sadly, sometimes trying to help is not enough to be actually helpful (see User:Piotrus/Morsels_of_wikiwisdom#On_the_most_dangerous_of_mindsets). Regarding your situation, I have not been following it in detail, but a, as I said at ANI, the evidence presented against you is IMHO not sufficient to warrant a major sanction, and b, as we both know, we have not interacted much, so I don't have much of a personal opinion on your case. Andrew "worked" on getting my attention for several years, and refused several of my attempts to resolve this when I reached out to him on his talk page, stickling to his belief that he has done no wrong. Well, you reap what you sow, as they say. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:05, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Just came here to thank you for the excellent analysis you provided at ANI. I confess that had I even tried to do that, I would have abandoned the attempt after a couple of months. Again thanks. -Roxy the sceptical dog. wooF 16:57, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

My thanks as well. I have to admit I had been saving the links I added for some time now for when this came, especially after his calling me a dog and a fool via Proverbs. Reywas92^Talk 19:52, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

And well ... Andrew's chief sin wasn't that he's incapable of admitting that he's ever wrong, or that his views fly in the face of consensus practice. It's his pervasive bad faith. He is quite capable of shrill cries that a nom isn't following WP:BEFORE in one AfD and sneering at suggestions that he ought to do so himself in the next; he will jeer at an editor for not complying with some alphabet soup acronym in one discussion and defy it himself in the next ... and he not only has no shame in refbombing, but does so without bothering to see if they have the slightest thing to do with the subject in question. He isn't here to improve the encyclopedia; he's here to win, and he's shown very few scruples when it comes to defeating his "enemies." Ravenswing 21:52, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

I agree with the comments above, you made an excellent analysis at ANI and I think the outcome will be beneficial to the entire project. best regards Mztourist (talk) 04:28, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Concern about your use of PROD

I have just deprodded Corwin of Amber and, as I said in my edit comment, I was concerned about your use of PROD. I know you to be a responsible editor and rather supposed you had just made a bit of a mistake. Looking further, I am less sure. I see at Talk:The Pattern (The Chronicles of Amber)#Notability you very properly raise a notability issue for discussion. You say An alternative to deletion would be merger to The Chronicles of Amber but due to OR problem I see here I am not sure if anything warrants merging?. But you also say you contemplate using PROD on this article. How can PROD be appropriate in your mind under these circumstances? Even if your assessment is correct and everyone implicitly or explicitly were to agree with you, how could it be that you reasonably think that this article title should become a red link? Would not the appropriate bold edit be to change it to a redirect and not to seek deletion? Thincat (talk) 10:47, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

@Thincat In the past I proposed a "proposed redirect" system which should follow the same path as "proposed deletion" (a template with a week review period and category enabling easy review), but it did not get traction. "Just redirecting" is the akin to "stealth deletion", since it is less visible than prodding (there is no redirect review or patrol AFAIK). Anyway, anyone can decline PROD and anyone can redirect the article. As for Corwin, the article is low quality and fails WP:GNG. I don't believe there is anything to merge, so we can either do a "stealth deletion" by redirecting (assuming anyone thinks the redirect itself is searchable and has merit) or AfD. Would you like to redirect it? Otherwise I'll either send it to AfD, as I dislike "stealth deletion by redirecting" on principle or redirect it myself since technically we have a review here (assuming you don't object). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 19:06, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

I have a great deal of sympathy with what you say (and I didn't know you had suggested "proposed redirect" in the past). Perhaps, without community consensus or documentation in WP:PROD, it should not be done however. I have also seen complaints about "stealth deletion" but I tend to think for inexperienced editors undoing an inappropriate redirect is more straightforward and intuitive than WP:REFUND. I won't make any change to the article, whatever its state, because I am utterly clueless about the genre or writing about fiction. Thank you for the suggestion though. Thincat (talk) 19:26, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

WikiCup 2021 November newsletter

The WikiCup is over for another year and the finalists can relax! Our Champion this year is The Rambling Man (submissions), who amassed over 5000 points in the final round, achieving 8 featured articles and almost 500 reviews. It was a very competitive round; seven of the finalists achieved over 1000 points in the round (enough to win the 2019 contest), and three scored over 3000 (enough to win the 2020 event). Our 2021 finalists and their scores were:

1. The Rambling Man (submissions) with 5072 points
2. Lee Vilenski (submissions) with 3276 points
3. Amakuru (submissions) with 3197 points
4. Epicgenius (submissions) with 1611 points
5. Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1571 points
6. BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 1420 points
7. Hog Farm (submissions) with 1043 points
8. Bloom6132 (submissions) with 528 points

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• The Rambling Man (submissions) wins the good topic prize, for 86 articles in good topics in round 5.
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Cześć. Treść tego hasła co najmniej oburza – brak tu podstawowych danych biograficznych oraz jakiejkolwiek wzmianki o naukowych osiągnięciach MZ, obficie za to serwuje się "krytykę" bez jakichkolwiek przypisów. Śmiech i płacz budzą m.in. stwierdzenia: "Instead, she appointed a group of relative political unknowns to her government in an effort to regain voters' trust and avoid defeat in the upcoming elections. The appointments included a former Olympic rower, Adam Korol, who was named sports and tourism minister, and Zembala who became the new minister for health." albo "The selection of Zembala as Health Minister was criticized by journalists as they emphasized that he was a great doctor, but healing the current situation in the Polish health service requires a lot of economic knowledge.". To wszystko bez przypisów. Mam nadzieję, że wkrótce zrobicie z tym porządek. Moja znajomość angielskiego mi na to nie pozwala. Pozdrawiam Horgelblob (talk) 15:30, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

@Horgelblob Cześć. Jak potrafisz się oburzyć na treść, potrafisz też i ją poprawić bądź usunąć. Dp dzieła - tak działa Wikipedia. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:13, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

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@W2k2 Trzeba wykazać odpowiednik WP:ENCY, na en wiki to podpada pod Wikipedia:Notability (journals). Możesz napisać tam na talku, zdjąć szablon proponowanego kasowania (PROD) i spingować mnie i Randy'ego, który to hasło zgłosił do kasowania. Jak nas przekonasz, to nie zglosimy dalej... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:23, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

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Hey Piotrus, Two things.

• First, I was doing a little snooping and I noticed that for two of your userboxes (love me some userboxes), you have "This user is ranked {{{1}}} on the list of Wikipedians by number of edits." and "This user is ranked {{{1}}} on the list of Wikipedians by articles created." I noticed that you are in fact at the impressively high 149th on the list for both. I am not sure if you meant to display them as they are and I thought I'd just point it out.
• Second, while I'm here, enjoying your page, chatting like old friends, I wanted to say, the discussion at COIN is meant to just be determining whether a specific editor has a conflict of interest. You keep moving towards discussing the source, which I totally get, it's like the elephant in the room. But I think the discussion will be less long and lengthy if we just focus on COI and not any problems with the source. Still love the userpage (I really need to do a little with mine I think, all in due time). Well thanks a heap, I won't bring it up anymore :) Pabsoluterince (talk) 11:50, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
• Third. I am really sorry, I thought that this edit was made on the COIN. Makes what I am saying much less relevant. I feel stupid now. Sorry. Pabsoluterince (talk) 12:26, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

  @Pabsoluterince Thank you for letting me know about the errors in my userbox collection (User:Piotrus/Babel). THey are 10 years old and clearly some code stopped working, I'll see if I find time to fix this later.

  Regardign staying on topic, I hear you, and I know I am sometimes guilty of focusing on the elephant. The issue has a nunber of dimensions, for example, while I don't believe the article is reliable (as I believe it is not only biased but contains a nunber of factual errors), there is some media coverage, and a 15-year old error is of some interest to those of us who want to document Wikipedia history. I am not suggesting that this incident should be censored from Wikipedia - but WP:UNDUE should be respected, and for almost everything, there are better sources than this very biased piece (significantly influenced by a site banned editor on a crusade to ruin the reputation of his enemies and recruit followers).

  And everything, including COI, has blurry boundaries - it is a fact that the article does mention me, and as it misquotes me and so on (have you read my letter to the editor here?) I am less then impartial here. Which is why I am fine for the most part leaving this entire set of issues to be discussed by the community, also per WP:BRD. I have no interest in edit warring, but I also don't think that there is any serious COI here to the point it is a bad practice for me to remove that link from the mainspace. If I am reverted, fine, let's discuss. But from where I stand, some editors - and we should note that Icewhiz socks are still likely active here, ready to pounce on any opening we give them, if they haven't already (newsflash in case you think I am jumping at shadows: recent Icewhiz sock almost became an admin) - are simply trying to silence the opposition, along the lines of "you were mentioned in this source, so you should simply leave this entire article, body and talk, and not to say anything". As others have pointed out, we have to be very wary of suggesting that best practices equal "do not edit or comment on topics where sources used name you" or such. There's COI, and there's censorship and variations of poisoning the well we have to be also very wary of (and that Haaret piece is exactly this - Icewhiz's most succesfull attempt to poison said well). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:59, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

  Yeah this is a really interesting case. There's a lot of moving parts. Yes I did read your letter and I had some thoughts to share. Did you notice that they included one of your requests? From the 3rd of October to the 16th of October they included your quote about it being a fringe theory + wiki linking. Obviously they saw your letter.

I will say, more and more I am agreeing that the article shouldn't consider this a hoax. This is concerning me because policy would argue for us to summarise what the reliable sources say, in which case hoax would have to stay. How could you correct the record considering a reliable source has called it a hoax? Go to the RSN? It would require a non-trivial amount of OR prove that it is wrong. If you could convice people that it shouldn't be considered a hoax, does that prove that the source is unreliable in general or just this one scenario? Getting one article wrong couldn't possibly justify downgrading the sources reliability so it would have to be considered unreliable for just this article. Doesn't that defeat the point of a distinguishing a source as reliable, so that there is no need to constantly check up on individual claims in individual articles and perform OR? At what point is OR justified in pointing out the mistakes of a reliable source? It seems to undermine the whole system of having reliable sources, as it would justify all OR into the content of articles. We're not meant to do OR so how could we argue for it's use to discredit a single article/wording?

In it's current form, if we were not to discredit the article's claims, it is definitely due in most areas it has been. It becomes a lot less due if you consider it not a hoax. I can also see how the COI thing puts you in an uncomfortable position. From your perspective you're already being slandered by the article and think that it was made with unjournalistic integrity. You have a small voice arguing against a reliable source and now people are trying to silence you further on the topic, by arguing that you could be influenced by the passing negative comments, which pale in comparison to some of the claims that the article makes. I get that. May I suggest sock accounts? Just kidding. But yeah I think because this is such an unusual occurance (A reliable source that names a wikipedia editor, interviews them, slanders them, and then publishes very an article full of falsehoods and misrepresentations) it's just much less of a hassle to go along with what I believe to be the policy based course of action (whereby you are silenced on the topic). It kinda feels like I am letting you fall through the cracks a bit idk.

My form of COI, would only pertain to your editing of the article that mentions you, needing to require consensus before you removed any content/citations surrounding it. In my opinion not such a bad result considering how rare these articles are. Luckily for you though, there are plently of people disagree with me that it's a COI. I definitely feel more ambivalent to which way the case swings. If it were to swing in the way of COI I would suggest going to RSN with your own bombshell case against the source. Whether you could convince people of what you believe the appropriate action IDK. I am sorry for calling out your attempts to inform people about the source, I can see more clearly where they're coming from. Well that's my little ramble, I am sure there are things that I am misinterpreting, misrepresenting or generally getting wrong so please let me know. Pabsoluterince (talk) 15:50, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

@Pabsoluterince Oh, that's intresting - I didn't realize they amended the article at all (I hever received any direct reply to them).

Regarding the next issue, what to do when we know that a RS is wrong, I think we cannot say in wiki voice it is wrong as that would be OR. If there are other RS which contradict it, we can discuss that with atrribution (source A said this, but source B said something else). But if there is no source that disagrees, I think we can simply chose to ignore the error and not to repeat it (in fact, I think it is the responsible thing to do).

And to be clear, I think Haaretz is in general reliable, and even most of the reporting by the journalist in question seems fine - as long as it doesn't concern Poland (he repeated a summary of his claims in a more recent article [10] which in passing mentions some earlier coverage about how "a group of Polish nationalists won a victory on English Wikipedia and dominated narrative etc.", I contacted him to point out the errors, no reply. And on the topic of "unjournalistic integrity", earlier this year that very same journalist contacted me, interviewed me again about this... and the promised new interview didn't materialize. Not only he didn't reply to me, but per the link above, he republished the erroneous claims again despite knowning they are wrong (as I send him several emails about the errors and spoke about thek to him at lenght during the second interview). This really raises a question of how to deal with biased reporting... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:21, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Very interesting, such claims of dominating the narrative could pretty easily be seen as false (i think). I mean the hoax article really doesn't maintain the standards of a RS IMO. In terms of dealing with biased reporting, you could consider arguing that articles of this single journalist in a specific topic needs to be considered with his previous articles in mind. Put a little disclaimer on RSN? Idk. Pabsoluterince (talk) 16:42, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

@Pabsoluterince Perhaps, having familairized yourself with this case by now, you could consider writing something for RSN? A proposal from an uninvolved party might have a chance of being less divisive than if I was to propose something (which would likely trigger a knee-jerk reaction from several folks along the lines of COI or whatever). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 17:20, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Yeah I will consider it. I would still want to do a thorough evaluation of all the claims presented in the article. Pabsoluterince (talk) 00:53, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

I just was reading some stuff and thought of something. Just because the editors adding the information to an article were not intending to mislead it could still be considered a hoax if the person who manufactured it was attempting to decieve. Then the page would simply be, information that was attempting to decieve, decieving Wikipedia editors and making it's way onto mainspace. That perspective shifts the question on the person who created the information, did they intend to decieve? In the case at hand, that would put the scrutiny on the actions of Maria Trzcińska. I know that doesn't change your opinion on the matter, though it does AGF on the part of wiki editors and more properly defines the debate IMO. Pabsoluterince (talk) 01:46, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Typo list

Hi, Piotr; I will put a typo list here, to avoid cluttering the other discussion.

• Q5. Yes, I am an practioner in the field of medicine --> a practitioner
• Q10. Did volunteering on Wikipedia inspired you --> inspire
• Q14. Volunteering for Wikipedia is stresful --> stressful
  • I would recommend editing Wikipedia to a collegue --> colleague
  • My collegues know I edit Wikipedia --> colleagues
  • If my collegues knew I edit Wikipedia, --> colleagues
  • Volunteering for Wikipedia is stresful --> stressful
• Q15. Disagee --> Disagree
  • They are too busy with their professional responsibilites --> responsibilities
• Q16. Writing in Wikipedia allows me togain a new perspective --> to gain
• Q19. WikiProject Medicine, compared to other WikiProjects, is more succesfull --> successful

Ping me when you have significant changes, and I'll be happy to look again. Thanks for your effort! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:50, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

@SandyGeorgia Just letting you know I have incorporated your proofreads and I am now in the process of catching up with other comments. Thank you! _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:21, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

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Notability of Apetor

Hey there, Piotrus. Recently, I noticed you tagged the article Apetor as not meeting notability guidelines, and I'd like to ask why you feel this way (especially considering you never left any comments anywhere). From the perspective of someone who edited that article heavily and added most of the references used, I'd wager that they show notability beyond any reasonable doubt.

1. Significant coverage: 100%. The article has over 60 sources, with most of them having the subject of the article as their main focus
2. Reliable: The only one I'd consider unreliable in this article, cross-checking with WP:RSPSS, is Newsweek, which is used only once within the article.
3. Sources: A clear majority of the sources in the article are secondary
4. Independent of the subject: While the subject is often interviewed in the articles I used as sources, none of them are closely affiliated with the subject
5. Presumed: I assume this is the one you are leaning on. Considering his international popularity and unique video content, I personally believe he's notable enough to be included on Wikipedia.

I'm not entirely familiar with the Wikipedia guidelines, so there may have been something I missed here. Anyhow, I'd be grateful to hear your thoughts on the matter. Regards, ArcticSeeress (talk) 16:51, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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@Nnadigoodluck I hope this is fixed now? I got confused as many other requests at the MMS page seem to have the same error, I just copied the format I found at them... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 22:03, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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@Sundayclose Thanks. It would be good to incorporate this opt in into MMS. I'll ask them to consider this. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:47, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Targets for your survey

Hi, thanks for the survey message. Not sure why I've received it as I'm not a member of WikiProject Medicine, nor do I systematically edit medical articles. No doubt I edit them occasionally, where I see issues, but I'm hardly qualified to assess medical sources. Do you want my feedback, or are you really focusing on heavy-duty medical editors? MichaelMaggs (talk) 22:38, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

@MichaelMaggs If you edit the topics even occasionally, I'd love to hear your opinion. As for how you were chosen, in addition to members of WPMED I also contacted editors who discussed issues at WTMED or created (according to new page report) articles that seem medicine related in the last month or so. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:46, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

OK, many thanks. Happy to do the survey. MichaelMaggs (talk) 10:09, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Piotrus, I just got an invite on my talk page to take part in a survey you are running. In principle I am fine with this, but I expected either the invitation or the intro of the survey to link to the authorisation/approval from the university at which you are employed, as I assume from the fact that you mention it, that they are aware of the survey and that it complies with their ethics standards, but there is no obvious way to check this directly. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 08:45, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

@Pbsouthwood Thank you. Such approvals vary from university to university, and I think are more common in the US/UK/etc. AFAIK my university does not require any approvals unless the research explicitly targets vulnerable groups (like focusing only on children, infirm or prisoners) or is related to the field of biology, medicine and related technologies. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:52, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Fair enough, and as I already knew that this survey was coming up it did not deter me from taking part for the very reasons you give. For me the data is not particularly private. I still think a link to an official university site establishing you as who you claim to be would be good policy. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 10:40, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

@Pbsouthwood You mean something like this? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:47, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

That does it adequately for me. I am sure some of our editors could find fault, but experience tells me that is a given. It is like a statistical law on Wikipedia that no finite level of diligence will satisfy everyone. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 15:48, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

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Can you refer me to any public information about why IceWhiz was banned. This is important. Thank you. Jehochman ^Talk 03:14, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

The Arbitration Committee has received convincing evidence that Icewhiz has engaged in off-wiki harassment of multiple editors. Consequently, he is indefinitely site banned from the English Wikipedia. (Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard/Archive 12#Icewhiz banned). TompaDompa (talk) 07:42, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

@TompaDompa Right. And here, 3h wasted writing statements for ArbCom rather than working on the hyperspace or Venus... articles. Some people really need to tattoo DFTT on their eyelids. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:12, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

@Jehochman Being one of the victims of said off-wiki harassment, I don't mind clarifying, as I've done before, that it included attempts to contact one's co-workers, family members, or students, with false claims such as "this person is a Holocaust denier", and doing this while impersonating another person (social movements activists, etc.). In Ice's eyes, his righteous goal of getting his wiki enemies to leave Wikipedia justifies any and all tricks, including feeding false information to a journalist. Empowering such people is not a good idea, to say the least. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:30, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining. I’m sorry that happened to you. Jehochman ^Talk 11:40, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

@Jehochman Thank you, but please note that the past tense is not correct. The harassment is ongoing. I'd appreciate it if you'd give it some thought. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:47, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

I will. Jehochman ^Talk 12:01, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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Mercury in fiction

Hi! You suggested that I renominate Mercury in fiction for GA status. Any particular suggestions about how best to improve the article beforehand? TompaDompa (talk) 13:00, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

@TompaDompa Other than looking for more sources, no, I think the last reviewer was unreasonable, closing this before any discussion. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:13, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Re: Proposed deletion of 2nd Open Russian Festival of Animated Film

Hi, I would belatedly (I've been unable to log into my account for over a year) like to protest this and request to undo the deletion. No, this would obviously not be on GBooks or Gnews or Gscholar as all of these resources are heavily Anglo- and West-centered, and in any case Russia in the 1990s was a mess, and not integrated into any of these (nor can most of the media from that era be found on the internet). There needs to be a sanity check - the ORFAF was the main film festival of the Russian animation community, and in the 1990s was basically the only one (there was also KROK in Ukraine, but that was an international one that just also happened to accept a lot of Russian animated films). Look at the jury that year - Fyodor Hitruk, Eduard Nazarov, Yuriy Norshteyn - all of them very famous directors who'd won many international awards. No, it's not very easy to find sources that are not from the website of the festival itself, due to the abovementioned issues - I found a short blurb here and some video footage here. But there in all the contemporary sources, there is no question that the event happened and of the importance of the festival in those years. The awards from that year are mentioned in the films' profiles on animator.ru. Esn (talk) 00:17, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

@Esn Thank you for the information. You can ask for the article to be restored at WP:REFUND, but in general, I think that while the Open Russian Festival of Animated Film may be notable, I doubt we need articles on individual editions (the yearly awards etc. can be covered in the main article or in a single list). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:15, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

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Named in arbitration request supplemental motion

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I appreciate the WP:AFG - I prefer not to respond at Gizzy’s page as she seems fairly enraged. I realize we do not always see eye to eye and have had some disagreements as well. I am indeed trying to improve the encyclopedia, but I admit that reverting any of Molobo’s edits after his very public meltdown was in poor taste and I do not - nor did I - intend to do any more.—Ermenrich (talk) 01:20, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

@Ermenrich O yeah? So how about showing good faith, self revert everything, make your comments on related talk pages and let community deal with that material. Many people, possibly even ArbCom team members are reading this, as I type. Deal? - GizzyCatBella🍁 01:25, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

You’re asking me to completely undue massive revisions of two articles, most of which have nothing to do with Molobo. If you object to anything about them in particular feel free to make or suggest improvements, but I’m not interested in being blackmailed.—Ermenrich (talk) 01:39, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

@Piotrus see the response above? Are you sure Piotrus that you are right with your prior judgements regarding that user? I’m ending this conversation. - GizzyCatBella🍁 01:43, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

@GizzyCatBella Let's AGF. I know it's a bit stresfull time, but, errr, I should be the most stressed one here, as someone named in the case etc. So I implore both of you to relax and take a step back. GCB, while undoing Molobo's edits would be in poor taste, I am not convinced that Ermenrich intended to do so - in fact, they clear said they did not. They say they just wanted to copyedit some articles, and the fact that Molobo edited them before is quite incidental, right? How about we discuss the changes on talk. Can you tell us which content - claims, facts, references, etc. - where removed that should be reinstated, or added that are problematic? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Piotrus, I’m not speaking about the content (I don’t watch those pages) but about the fact that they proceeded and started reverting to their preferred version material which they previously disagreed with Molobo about. They did that immediately after Molobo was blocked. - GizzyCatBella🍁 09:43, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

@GizzyCatBella Weell. At the end of a day, if someone retires, they don't get a "in-memoria protection" for their edits or such. Wikipedia is written by those who are active. I am not saying such behavior deserves a barnstar, but frankly, I can't see anything wrong it either. I repeat that the best course of action is AGF and review the edits themselves. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:55, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

The only place I deliberately changed something Molobo edited was here. This is because I do not think it was a good edit. The change should be judged on its merits like any other - as Piotrus says, retired (or blocked) users don't get an in-memoriam tag on their edits. As I stated at the case page, much of what I removed at Walter Kuhn I added myself (diffs are in the case page). If my goal was restoring my "preferred version" why would I do that? I've expanded Werner Conze significantly - removing what Molobo (or anyone else) wrote there has been incidental. As I said at the case page: do you think the version before my expansion was better? As for Friedlander, I had no idea that Molobo made that addition. But I ask you this: does it make sense to say that someone who was a Nazi party member before the war, but who is primarily known for his political career in the Christian Democratic Union of Germany in West Germany as a "Nazi politician" in the first sentence of the lead? If you think so, then I'm happy to have that debate and possibly start an RFC about it, but the fact that Molobo made the addition should play no role in that assessment.

At any rate, I think we could all use with less drama here - if an admin or the arbs think there's something wrong with these edits, they'll do something about it. These German historical figure articles are all under-watched (sort of the opposite of the WWII ones), so any additional attention they receive is welcome.--Ermenrich (talk) 14:07, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

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Russian animation festival deletion

Replying to the discussion here which got archived. As suggested, I requested undeletion, and also found a reference in an academic work that mentions widespread media coverage at the time. I certainly disagree with the notion that the individual festivals do not deserve their own article, as all of them got press and each of them was significant to the whole field of animation in Russia (being almost the only, and certainly the main, place where most of its practitioners gathered once a year). If the Oscars and the Cannes get yearly pages (or, to take a more pertinent example, the Annie Awards), I don't see why it shouldn't be the case for smaller notable festivals as well, even if they only get attention within one country. Esn (talk) 11:05, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

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COI

At Talk:Dalej jest noc#January 2022 edits you asked Also, what "negative information"?. Your name and Grabowski's name appear on 92 pages on Wikipedia [11], and I haven't looked at them all of course, but here are some things I noticed.

First, 92 is a lot of hits, and it seems to cover many articles over the last four or five years, e.g. Talk:Collaboration in German-occupied Poland/Archive 5#Should Grabowski be removed ? (2018), Talk:Jan Grabowski/Archive 6#Sourcing policy (2019), Talk:Jedwabne pogrom/Archive 7#Lead sources (2020), and Talk:The Holocaust in Poland/Archives/2023/March#Grabowski, again (2021).

In a 2018 thread at Talk:Collaboration with the Axis powers/Archive 7#Grabowski, which GizzyCatBella began with I pushed myself into reading Grabowski, and I have to tell you that I’m more and more wondering about his work. I speculate that he is doing it for publicity and money ... (Special:Diff/827842588), you wrote, ... instead of being a neutral historian, he clearly has (an anti-Polish) axe to grind ... I wonder if he has some personal reasons, or if such authors just hope that controversy = high book sales... (Special:Diff/828392718).

27 minutes later you started the Wikipedia article about Jan Grabowski (Special:Permalink/828222911). You are also the creator and a top editor of Hunt for the Jews (xtools), and a top editor of Dalej jest noc (xtools), two works by Grabowski.

In 2020, Grabowski wrote an article about Wikipedia in which he mentioned you (among others) [12]. You wrote an article in response [13], which begins Chciałbym odnieść się do tekstu „Wrzuć brednię na Wikipedię. Polscy nacjonaliści wciskają kit zagranicznym czytelnikom” prof. Grabowskiego, zarówno jako wieloletni wikipedysta i osoba wzmiankowana w tym tekście, ale też jako profesor socjologii ze specjalizacją w nowych mediach, który Wikipedii poświęcił znaczną część swojej pracy badawczej i edukacyjnej. (Gtranslate: I would like to refer to the text "Put nonsense on Wikipedia. Polish nationalists are stoning foreign readers ” prof. Grabowski, both as a long-time wikipedist and a person mentioned in this text, but also as a professor of sociology with a specialization in new media, who devoted a significant part of his research and educational work to Wikipedia.), which was published along with Grabowski's response to it, which begins Z zainteresowaniem przeczytałem polemikę Piotra Koniecznego, wykładowcy socjologii w Hanyang University w Korei Południowej oraz wolontariusza Wikipedii, piszącego pod pseudonimem Piotruś. (Gtranslate: I read with interest the polemic of Piotr Konieczny, a sociology lecturer at Hanyang University in South Korea, and a Wikipedia volunteer, writing under the pseudonym "Piotruś".).

At Special:Diff/1038351752 in August 2021, you removed Grabowski received death threats among other content (... Grabowski's book is part of a "growing body of corrective scholarship" that discusses the indifference or complicity of European populations).

At Talk:Dalej jest noc#January 2022 edits, where you and GCB participated, GCB wrote So what I'm seeing here are 3 users clearly in favour of the restoration of the removed criticism, and 2 users are against it. The consensus appears to be to restore the text eliminated by K.e.Coffman. I'm going to act based on that. Thank you for participating in this consensus-building process. (Special:Diff/1065635951) and then GCB cleared a POV tag and restored the criticism (Special:Diff/1065636388).

I understand both you and Grabowski are professors, and you don't agree with what he's written about Polish collaboration and other topics, and that's certainly your right to disagree, and also to publish your disagreements, it's a normal thing for academics to do. But I don't think you can also edit Wikipedia content about him or his work, per WP:BLPCOI. I don't think you should be part of a 3-v-2 vote in a discussion about adding criticism to a Wikipedia article about a book he co-edited, as appears to have happened at Talk:Dalej jest noc#January 2022 edits. Maybe you didn't have a COI when you started his articles, just strong opinions about him. Maybe he shouldn't be allowed to create a COI by publishing something about you. But when you decided to publish something about him, outside of Wikipedia, I think that's when you developed a COI, and since then (2020), you should not be editing anything about him or his works. I hope you will reconsider. Levivich 04:21, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Your diffs show I don't edit Grabowski much (yes, I started his biography and articles about his books which seem notable, but I didn't expand them much). As I said, I don't intend to edit content about him much as it is not something that I am particularly interested in, but no, I do not believe that publishing a single polemic column in a newspaper about someone disqualifies me from editing related articles on Wikipedia, and BLPCOI does not apply (exchanging a polite polemic column is hard "a significant controversy", neither of us is an "an avowed rival" of one another, nor do I have particularly strong feelings about him). PS. Since you came here after the recent discussion/edits at Dalej jest noc, instead of year-old diffs, please let me know which specific diffs from the last few days or so make you concerned. Was it my reference formatting, or the addition of the review by Lehnstaedt (which was requested a few days ago on talk by K.e.coffman)? If you find these edits problematic, you are welcome to undo them, per WP:BRD. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:29, 17 January 2022 (UTC) PSS. I'll also ping User:Nableezy, the closer of the recent COIN thread, for their thoughts, and User:GizzyCatBella whom you mentioned (and whose recent diffs - not mine - you have linked too; do you think GCB has a COI too? I am a bit confused why are you linking to their diffs of comments at Talk:Dalej jest not at all?). A WP:3O seems like a good idea. PPPS. If I was citing my column on Wikipedia, that might be COI, and if I was using it to back up claims about him, that could be BLPCOI, yes. Neither of this is the case, however - or did I ever cite my column on Wikipedia? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:55, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Your participating at Talk:Dalej jest noc#January 2022 edits is the recent editing that brought me to raise this. Levivich 15:09, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Personally, I dont really see how the above shows a COI with Grabowski, and I think the arguments about a slippery slope in allowing subjects to disqualify editors from editing about them addressed this. Of course Levivich is free to pursue whatever his heart desires, but if the sole bit of pertinent evidence is having written an op-ed in which the user, while saying I am this WP user and speaking as this WP user, disputes what the subject wrote while also saying (dont know Polish so this is google translating for me) I respect Grabowski as a history specialist, I dont see where there is evidence of a significant controversy or how the two are "avowed rivals". Do the users editing in the AP2 topic area have a COI if they ever tweeted a negative thought about Donald Trump? If they participated in a protest against the travel ban, do they have a COI? If they participated in a protest against mask mandates, do they have a COI? What if they had a blog about pseudoscience and wrote about vaccine conspiracies, do they have a COI on articles about vaccines? I dont think that is what our COI policy says, and I dont think it is reasonable to think that somebody cannot respond in the real world to claims made against them without forfeiting their ability to edit here. It can reach a COI if it actually gets to the point of being avowed rivals, but that, at least from the evidence presented thus far, does not appear to be the case, but if Levivich disagrees he is certainly able to raise the issue in the correct forum. But given that Piotrus has already declined Levivich's request on an article talk page (here), if Levivich wishes to pursue this he should do it in the correct forum and not continue badgering Piotrus on his user talk page. nableezy - 15:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

In the real world he wrote "I respect Grabowski as a history specialist", but on Wikipedia, he wrote "instead of being a neutral historian, he clearly has (an anti-Polish) axe to grind ... I wonder if he has some personal reasons, or if such authors just hope that controversy = high book sales...". Doesn't seem like editors should be able to "fight with" or criticize BLP subjects they edit about on- and off-wiki in this way. Publishing an op-ed in Gazeta Wyborcza makes it a "significant controversy" in my view. Grabowski was quoted in the Haaretz piece that was part of the last COIN, and after that, Piotrus tried to publish a rebuttal in Haaretz (see pl:Wikipedysta:Piotrus/Media) before publishing a rebuttal in a major Polish newspaper. After discrediting Grabowski on-wiki and making multiple attempts to dispute Grabowski off-wiki, Piotrus still edits about Grabowski. I think that's WP:BLPCOI. By analogy, if a Wikipedia editor published an op-ed in the New York Times criticizing Donald Trump, then they should not edit Donald Trump or vote in talk page discussions there. And Grabowski isn't a "public figure" or a politician like Trump is. This is one professor having an academic dispute with another professors; professors in academic disputes should not edit about each other. Like I said, I hope Piotrus reconsiders. Levivich 18:25, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Hes already told you no, hes bluntly said he does not have a COI, and his comments on WP cannot make a COI, so every diff youve presented is completely irrelevant. The only question is if he responds to something written about him the WP editor as the WP editor does that make it a COI. I think the slippery slope arguments in the past COI would certainly have been voluminous if you had attempted to claim a COI with respect to Grabowski, or even using sources written by Grabowski, as you are now attempting to exclude an editor from a topic entirely and not simply claiming a COI on material related to the editor. But hes told you no, multiple times now. I feel like I have seen somebody say take me to a noticeboard or shut up already before. nableezy - 18:35, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh, and Levivich, let me give you a not hypothetical example, in addition to the blog on pseudoscience (very much true about an editor active in medical topics). Lets say an editor has a blog where they have made repeated criticisms of a source and its editors, living people, that for the sake of argument we'll call UpperCut. Does that editor have a COI in discussing that source on WP? Cus if so, you have some more COI hunting to do. nableezy - 19:01, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

He hasn't told me no "multiple times now", only once, because I only asked him once. Though I'm not the first to do so, this is the first and only second time I've ever raised this COI issue (you'll notice I didn't raise or discuss it in the last COIN, which was about a different COI), and I raised it because of fresh evidence of COI editing (participation in that talk page thread), which led to an outcome (the article being edited) based directly on his participation (the claimed 3-v-2 consensus). Because he said he doesn't have a COI, I explained why I thought he did. I believe in discussing things with editors directly first before (and hopefully, instead of) going to noticeboards, so no, I'm not going to take your advice to take it to a noticeboard "already". Levivich 19:11, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Once, twice, thrice. I think Im going to go back to my disinterest in engaging with you further though. Toodles. nableezy - 19:23, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Actually I forgot I'd raised it at the ARC, so second time. Levivich 19:44, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

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I Am So Proud of You

Hi, just wanted to let you know I've corrected that "failed verification" tag with a better link on I Am So Proud of You -- thanks for the heads-up! Ang-pdx (talk) 20:23, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

@Ang-pdx Tnx, but re [14], note that WP:IMDb is not a very reliable source. Can we do better? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:33, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

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Ferajnigte?

Hi Piotrus! I'm struggling a bit with United Jewish Socialist Workers Party, from various Polish sources it appears that a separate Ferajnigte party was created in Poland in 1918 (or 1919 per some sources). But it also seems that Ferajnigte continued to function as a Jewish section in PNS/NSPP even after the merger in 1922. However, my main ref (Kowalski, Geschichte der Sozialistischen Arbeiter-Internationale, (1923-1940)) says that PNS did not transform into a union of national sections. Can you have a look at https://www.zvab.com/kunst-grafik-poster/Zydowskie-ugrupowania-stronnictwa-polityczne-Polsce-I-sze/22923893267/bd , and see if there's something that could be extracted as good info from there, and give a feedback on whether the tone of the text is reasonable? It seems to me that the text might be taken from, or at least inspired by Korsch's Żydowskie ugrupowania wywrotowe w Polsce, which is flagged here (p. 402) as biased but still somehow adhering to historical objectivity. Also, any chance Korsch's book could be found online at Polish online libraries? --Soman (talk) 16:16, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

@Soman I don't know how to make that image readable :( As for Polish digital libraries, they are usually chaotic and don't contain anything remotely modern due to copyright, so I wouldn't expect much. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:19, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

The key sentences I'm able to extract (apologies for spelling/lack of Polish orthography): "Nie zdolawszy siejednak rozwinac, zlaczyla sie Ferajnigte z N.S.P.P. w. dn. 30. VII. 1922 l utworzyla w niej autonomiczna sekcje. Sekcja ta bierze nadai udzial w spolecznym I politycznem zyclu zydowskiem, wystepjuac niejedkrotnie p. n. “Ferajnigte”, N.S.P.P. powstala w listopadzie 1921." The timeline seems off, as the merger took place in 1922 but that Ferajnigte would have been mentioned as affiliated with NSPP in 1921. --Soman (talk) 13:06, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

There is no year for the merger given, just 30 July. January 1922 for creating an "autonomous section" within Ferajnigte, also called Ferajnigte. Then NSPP creation date is 1921. It's a bit weird and it could be there's some transcription error, but I'd need to see the original text to be sure. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 17:31, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

(tps) You need to click on the poster, not on "Größeres Bild ansehen" to get this readable version of the top bit. —Kusma (talk) 17:48, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

@Soman Thank you User:Kusma. Now I can read this. The second box says that Jidisze Socjalistisze Partaj "Farajnigte" in Pojlen (Żydowska Socjalistyczna Robotnicza Partia "Zjednoczeni" w Polsce) was created in November 1918 from organization "Syjonici - Socjalisći" (Zionst-Socialists). It failed to grow and was merged with NSPP on 30 July 1922, and became an autonomous section with the NSPP. It is active and sill uses the name "Ferajnigte". NSPP itself was created in November 1921. Hope that helps? The source is reliable as in, it's seems like a report of the Polish government at ministerial level, and states simple facts. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:21, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks! --Soman (talk) 16:17, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Captain Flag

If you care enough to look at that discussion again, this close was so bad that it warrants some talk to the person who closed the discussion. There's that lie about there being "scholarly sources", and he also arbitrarily ignored altogether your whole argument concerning the references. I'll support you if you take it to his talk page or to DRV, but I don't put much faith that anything will change. Avilich (talk) 21:49, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Captain Flag and "Kickstarter-funded picture books"?

Looking at [15] I see nothing about kickstarter funding. Are you sure you put the right link in the DRV? Jclemens (talk) 00:47, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

@Jclemens Hmmm, I think I meant [16] for the picture book. And here is the KS page: www.kickstarter.com/projects/1651697370/the-encyclopedia-of-golden-age-superheroes (spamlist prevents a link on wiki). Those are not reliable sources IMHO - fanpages reprinted in a book format, pretty much (the KS one seems to seriously just reprint slightly reformatted entries from the authors webpage: [17]). Wikia/Fandom is better unless someone wants a pretty paperweight for a bookshelf. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:51, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Jclemens (talk) 20:46, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, I have been adding to an article that you started some time ago. Louis Micheels. I had created one for his house, and then went to his article. I think it could be a candidate for GA, but I wanted to get your opinion. Thanks! Bruxton (talk) 21:15, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

@Bruxton I'll reply at the article's talk page. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, I notice that the review comments I have produced for this article have not yet started to be addressed. It looks as if the work involved may take some time. The article will however, be failed on February 14 if there are unaddressed issues. Amitchell125 (talk) 12:39, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

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Capt Flag again

It has been relisted, surprisingly enough. Avilich (talk) 18:00, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Avilich Sandstein is a smart guy. As long as he is not distracted by the holy rules, I guess :P Now, the question is - will this weird influx of people treating picture books as reliable sources stop? Geeez. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 19:03, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

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Moorcock works

FYI, I object, including proactively to any not yet placed, to any PROD on any Michael Moorcock work of literature or fictional element derived therefrom. Feel free to hit me up on my talk page instead. Jclemens (talk) 18:47, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

@Jclemens Then please proactively improve them so they don't end up at AfD. Based on the current state, almost none of them seem to be notable, it's all fancruft. Of course, I'll do a BEFORE before PROD/AfD, but you could save us time and fix the ones you consider notable so they don't end up at these places. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:34, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

In a perfect world where I had plenty of time, I'd be happy to. But, you've demonstrated yourself quite capable of working through and improving topics, and I would request that you expend that level of effort yourself to clean up and focus articles, contextualize plot summary, redirect to lists or overview articles, and overall feel free to do the curationist work that is truly the answer to the inclusionism/deletionism debate. Jclemens (talk) 20:09, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Orddu, Orwen and Orgoch

Hi Piotrus, this is just a courtesy note to tell you that I've deprodded this article and proposed a merge to The Chronicles of Prydain#Characters instead, on the basis of ATD/R. Cordially—S Marshall T/C 22:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Hyperspace

On 1 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hyperspace, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the concept of hyperspace, primarily known through its use in science fiction, originated from and is still occasionally used in scholarly works? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hyperspace. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hyperspace), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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WikiCup 2022 March newsletter

And so ends the first round of the WikiCup. Last year anyone who scored more than zero points moved on to Round 2, but this was not the case this year, and a score of 13 or more was required to proceed. The top scorers in Round 1 were:

• Epicgenius, a finalist last year, who led the field with 1906 points, gained from 32 GAs and 19 DYKs, all on the topic of New York buildings.
• AryKun, new to the contest, was second with 1588 points, having achieved 2 FAs, 11 GAs and various other submissions, mostly on the subject of birds.
• Bloom6132, a WikiCup veteran, was in third place with 682 points, garnered from 51 In the news items and several DYKs.
• GhostRiver was close behind with 679 points, gained from achieving 12 GAs, mostly on ice hockey players, and 35 GARs.
• Kavyansh.Singh was in fifth place with 551 points, with an FA, a FL, and many reviews.
• SounderBruce was next with 454 points, gained from an FA and various other submissions, mostly on United States highways.
• Ktin, another WikiCup veteran, was in seventh place with 412 points, mostly gained from In the news items.

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DYK for Witold Pilecki

On 4 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Witold Pilecki, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Polish Home Army resistance fighter Witold Pilecki volunteered to infiltrate the Auschwitz concentration camp? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Witold Pilecki. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Witold Pilecki), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Flag

The Capt Flag discussion was now closed as a procedural keep of sorts, do you care enough to support a merge on the talk page? I tried doing so but was rather disingenuously reverted. Avilich (talk) 15:58, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Certainly, I'll do what I can to help to clean this fancruft. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:57, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

2022 boycott of Russia and Belarus

Hello, I saw your comments and updates on 2022 boycott of Russia and Belarus. As you know we are trying to get a consensus how to merge all Corporate responses into a single page with Corporate responses to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Would be great if you add any new content on Corporate responses to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Thanks, DmitryShpak (talk) 05:22, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

@DmitryShpak I should, but editing tables is hard. I will try to help once we have consensus on how to format the table. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:54, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Sounds good. I agree editing tables is a pain, but in visual editor it is manageable. They do look much better for readers and allow easy export to excel for filtering/sorting and generally look better when there are hundreds of records. Thanks DmitryShpak (talk) 00:39, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

@DmitryShpak Yes, they do look much better. I'll have to try working on them in VE. Please let me know if you need any assistance. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:14, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

OLX

Would you be able to enrich Polish entry about OLX company with the same Controversy section you have added to the English entry? It has been blocked for edits for new users so I can't do it myself.

Proposed translation:

Controversy

Following the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine which began on February 24, many international, particularly Western companies pulled out of Russia. Unlike most of its Western competitors, OLX has been slow to announce any disinvestments or scaling back of its operations in Russia, drawing criticism. The criticism concerned in particular its Avito service, which among others publishes advertisements about recruiting to the Russian army.[55][56]

Kontrowersje

W związku z Rosyjką inwazją na Ukrainę rozpoczętą 24 lutego 2022, wiele międzynarodowych, szczególnie zachodnich firm zadecydowało o zawieszeniu operacji w Rosji. W przeciwieństwie do większości jego zachodnich konkurentów, OLX nie podją decyzji o zaniechaniu ani zmniejszeniu zakresu działalności w Rosji. Związana z tym krytyka medialna dotyczyła w szczególności należącego do grupy OLX servisu Avito, który publikował w tym czasie między innymi ogłoszenia rekrutujące żołnierzy do rosyjskiej armii. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.63.13.161 (talk) 15:38, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Will do, good idea! And I encourage you to create an account so you can do it yourself in the future. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 15:42, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Will do, many thanks! 187.63.13.161 (talk) 16:10, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

A History of the World

Have any good sources for this, A History of the World? I could use a couple of good sources that talk about the work and maybe two sentences of text. Thanks. --evrik ^(talk) 21:46, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

@Evrik I will take a look at this soon! _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 22:35, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

@Evrik Did you reach out to WT:HUNGARY? Possibly good source: [18] _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:03, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Polish-Lithuanian people by occupation

Since the user who initiated the transfer of 18th-century Poles to the "Polish-Lithuanian people" categories refuses to undo these changes, what is the procedure for reversing them? For me, this whole action borders on vandalism and is an example of a complete lack of knowledge of the subject. From what I can see the problem is wider than that, as there are similar comments in relation to the Welsh on this user's talk page.Marcelus (talk) 13:25, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

@Marcelus I'd report it to WP:AN and ask there. Do it and ping me? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 18:01, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Sure Marcelus (talk) 20:26, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Always precious

Precious

ten years

Thank you for sharing your profound knowledge about Poland and its history and people. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:41, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

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artykuły w pl wiki

Cześć, Piszę w sprawie dyskusji toczącej się nad stworzonym przeze mnie w pl wiki artykułem Małgorzata Ścisłowicz.

Przeczytałem Twój profil, wkład w wikipiedię masz naprawdę imponujący. Piszesz że w polskiej wikipedii trudno kontrybuować, bo zasady nie są jasne i artykuły są wyrzucane. Wydaje mi się że artykuł który stworzyłem, opisuje postać encyklopedyczną, co jest poparte wieloma źródłami. Porównując do biografii wielu innych polskich aktorek i aktorów, którzy nie odznaczyli się nawet w filmie czy teatrze tak mocno jak Małgorzata, nie mówiąc o poemacie, który Bronisław Maj porównał do twórczości Miłosza, wydaje mi się niesprawiedliwe, że artykuł o tak bogatej postaci ma być wyrzucony, kiedy tamte nie są kwestionowane. Proszę o poradę jako doświadczonego wyjadacza, jak jeszcze uwiarygodnić encyklopedyczność postaci? Jak napisać artykuł, który przysłuży się światu? Edytowałem chyba pierwsze artykuły w polskiej Wikipedii, w początkach XXI w. Myślałem teraz, kiedy znowu mam więcej czasu, żeby do tego wrócić, bo koncepcja społecznego kontrybuowania w zachowaniu wiedzy wciąż bardzo mi się podoba. Ale widzę że obecnie napisanie jakiegokolwiek artykułu to jest chyba droga przez mękę i strata prywatnego czasu, bo i tak artykuł zostanie wyrzucony, jeśli komuś się tak spodoba. Pozdrawiam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aak2ja (talk • contribs) 13:08, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

@Aak2ja: Witam. Więc tak, bo jest kilka wątków. Ogólnie, dziękuje(my) za chęć pomocy i prosimy nie zrażać się. Jak każda rzecz, na początku zdarzają się potknięcia, i także, jakoś rozumiane marnowanie czasu, bo chęci to jedno, a efekty do drugie. Trzeba troche poćwiczyć. Formę / styl masz b. dobrą, jedyny problem to podejście do pl:WP:ENCY. I ew. zrozumienie, ale zrozuminie jest trudne, ja od nastu last się tym zajmuję, a gwarantuję Ci, że są tacy, którzy uważają, że nie zrozumiałem :)

re: "Porównując do biografii wielu innych polskich aktorek i aktorów" - odsyłam do WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS

re: "Proszę o poradę jako doświadczonego wyjadacza, jak jeszcze uwiarygodnić encyklopedyczność postaci?" - potrzebne są źródła, które świadczą o nietrywialnym zauważeniu postaci. Moim zdaniem, jedna recenzja jednego wiersza nie wystarcza. Odsyłam dalej do WP:TOOSOON

re: "Jak napisać artykuł, który przysłuży się światu?" - odsyła do WP:ITSUSEFUL

re: "droga przez mękę i strata prywatnego czasu" - to zależy o czym piszemy. Pisząc o postaciach niszowych, cóż, to się zdarza. I mnie się zdarzyło i kilka moich haseł zostało usuniętych. Nigdy to nie jest przyjemne. Możemy filozofować, co to znaczy, że coś czy ktoś jest znaczący czy encyklopedyczny, mamy pewne standardy (więcej zapisanych na en wiki, np. WP:BIO), ale wiele sytuacji jest graniczno-subiektywnych i rostrzyganych przez kilka głosów. W ramach nie-tracenia czasu, sugeruję pisanie haseł o tematach mniej niszowych, a także udzielanie się w np. w pl:Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/biografie celem nabycia doświadczenia w Praktyce, a także pokazania swojej opini. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:16, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Static Media

The article Static Media has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:GNG

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What googlehits is and isn't.

I see that on the now-closed Gwen Tennyson AfD, you're again using WP:GOOGLEHITS in an erroneous manner. When I say "I see hits in Google News and Google Scholar that look promising" or the equivalent, that's neither a GOOGLEHITS or a WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES argument. GOOGLEHITS would be if I made arguments about the abundance or paucity of hits; neither applies. THEREMUSTBESOURCES would be if I asserted that "sources are out there somewhere". By saying "Google News and Google Scholar are worth looking at" I'm saying "The nominator failed to do a sufficient BEFORE search, it's not my job to do it and/or I don't have time to do so, so if the nom wants to refute my !vote, he or she can go do the work that should have originally been done before the nomination."
By the way, your !vote there isn't policy or guideline based. The nominator suggests a redirection, which is the least disruptive way to solve the NOT#PLOT issue, and yet you argued for deletion regardless. That's... beneath your normal standard of discourse. Jclemens (talk) 02:33, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

@Jclemens While I am not opposed to redirecting (not sure why I didn't say it there), as for the Googlehits, it's pretty simple. "IF there are good sources, please link them." Otherwise, yes, it's THEREMUSTBESOURCES based on GOOGLEHITS. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:02, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

No, it isn't. Read the examples; you've been around longer than me, surely you remember the "But there are 2.3 million hits for this on Google!" AfD arguments? Regardless, that is what Googlehits is about: the raw number being large or small being a factor influencing decisions, nothing more, nothing less. If you want to write a different essay to cite, feel free, but GOOGLEHITS doesn't mean what you think it does. Jclemens (talk) 07:21, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Seriously, you should know better than to defend a vague claim of "I saw some things during my search that may be relevant, I am not linking them but I assume there are sufficient" (or to quote you: "The Google Scholar and Google News links show sufficient coverage for the character and the actresses who have played her. "). It's a compound of GOOGLEHITS and THEREMUSTBESOURCES, but yes, still, mostly GOOGLEHITS (as well as Wikipedia:Search_engine_test#Notability). Anyway, GOOGLEHITS does clearly say "a large number of hits on a search engine is no guarantee that the subject is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia". Unless you are going to argue whatu saw was a small number of hits and that it makes your case stronger :> No, really, if you see good sources, link them directly instead of claiming you saw something potentially useful on Google, that's just noise. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:45, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Read what you just quoted above: Citing the number (high or low) of search engine results as evidence of notability or lack thereof is GOOGLEHITS; noting that something intriguing and possibly relevant was found on Google is not. To the best of my knowledge, I have never made a GOOGLEHITS argument, and certainly not within the last 12 years. The fact that you're misreading the citation doesn't make it correct. Again, if you'd like to write your own essay, feel free to do so, but please don't keep imagining says what you would prefer it to say, because it simply doesn't. Jclemens (talk) 16:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

I'd really prefer if instead of spending time arguing minute details of wikilaw here, you'd either cite specific sources you like in AfDs or better yet, use them to improve said articles. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:51, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Question

Hello Piotrus! I hope that You are still going strong despite some issues :) I need Your help! One art. (not mine) got a notice: "you included material copied/translated from the Polish Wikipedia. That's okay, but you have to give attribution so that our readers are made aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. It's also required under the terms of the license". Ok, so I do understand the issue but I do not understand how to do it in practise - how do I give this "attribution"? I thought that it will be very usefull for my own work on en:wiki. I would widely appreciate Your help in this matter. Kid regards, Camdan (talk) 21:17, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

@Camdan: Sorry you run into this stupic bureaucratic requirement, which I consider a waste of time. Still, yes, technically, it is best practices around here. An easy workaround is to use {{translated page}} on talk page. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:33, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Great! Thank You! :) Regards, Camdan (talk) 19:47, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

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Category:Easter traditions by country has been nominated for merging

Category:Easter traditions by country has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

"Wikipedia is not TV Tropes"

User:TenPoundHammer/Wikipedia is not TV Tropes. Here you go. Enjoy. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 16:09, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Polish categories

Can you take a stance maybe? Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_April_17#Category:18th-century_Polish_people_by_occupation Marcelus (talk) 07:29, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

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The second round of the 2022 WikiCup has now finished. It was a high-scoring round and contestants needed 115 points to advance to round 3. There were some very impressive efforts in round 2, with the top seven contestants all scoring more than 500 points. A large number of the points came from the 11 featured articles and the 79 good articles achieved in total by contestants.

Our top scorers in round 2 were:

1. Epicgenius, with 1264 points from 2 featured article, 4 good articles and 18 DYKs. Epicgenius was a finalist last year but has now withdrawn from the contest as he pursues a new career path.
2. AryKun, with 1172 points from two featured articles, one good article and a substantial number of featured article and good article reviews.
3. Bloom6132, with 605 points from 44 in the news items and 4 DYKs.
4. Sammi Brie, with 573 points from 8 GAs and 21 DYKs.
5. Ealdgyth, with 567 points from 11 GAs and 34 good and featured article reviews.
6. Panini!, with 549 points from 1 FA, 4 GAs and several other sources.
7. Lee Vilenski, with 545 points from 1 FA, 4 GAs and a number of reviews.

The rules for featured and good article reviews require the review to be of sufficient length; brief quick fails and very short reviews will generally not be awarded points. Remember also that DYKs cannot be claimed until they have appeared on the main page. As we enter the third round, any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed now, and anything you forgot to claim in round 2 cannot! Remember too, that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:39, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the source

I appreciate it Elinruby (talk) 15:59, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Question

Am I reporting Czech sources as Polish? GizzyCatBella seems to think so. (see edit summary [19]) The parentheses on some sources are the languages other than Ukrainian reported by Google Translate, intended for the language parameter when the references are properly formatted, and it is true that some that it thought were Polish did not translate well, so this is plausible. If you have time, I would also appreciate it if you could cast an eye over the titles; at the time I thought that some of the abbreviations might not be coming across. Also, if there is anything there that should not be there (known Holocaust denial screeds for example) please also LMK. I will take another look at the article and my messages tonight. (Pacific time) Elinruby (talk) 20:33, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on military logistics and rebuilding Nagasaki

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I think this is an easy question

Google Translate is reporting "Powstańcza" as Polish but apparently doesn't have the word in its vocabulary. However if I google search the word, I get Ukraińska Powstańcza Armia, the English version of which is Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which seems to make sense, but since I know what I don't know, which is a lot when it comes to Polish, I'd like a reality check. I am formatting sources as promised, and this is a book title. Thanks for any brainpower that you apply to this question. Elinruby (talk) 07:32, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

@Elinruby It would help if you could list the full source? Powstańcza is a feminine form adjective in Polish from the word partisan. So Powstańcza Armia or Armia Powstańcza = Partisan Army in Polish. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:46, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

here is the context and source. I realize that no publisher is given, and that's a problem, but one thing at a time.

=== Attacks on cities in 1944 ===

Attacks on large cities and towns, the so-called district centers, were of special importance and required a large force, at least several hundred men. According to Ukrainian historian Anatoliy Kenty, the UPA command attacked the headquarters of district authorities:

• “a) to force the Soviet authorities to leave more forces in district centers and thus weaken their presence in rural areas;
• b) create obstacles to the strengthening of local government and paralyze their actions against the liberation movement;
• c) interrupt the collection of agricultural contingent and other actions of the village authorities.'<ref>A. Kentij, Ukrajinśka Powstanśka Armija w 1944–1945 rr., s. 172–173. (Polish)(A. Kentij, Ukrainian Powstanśka Army in 1944–1945, pp. 172–173)</ref> Elinruby (talk) 07:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

actually if the historian is Ukrainian, hmm, excuse me while I do a quick google Elinruby (talk) 08:01, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Not getting a hit atm, even on Google Books or Google Scholar. Suspect a transliteration problem? If you want I will try the article author on who the publisher is. But. Assuming this is in fact a Polish title, it sounds like you are saying that "partisan" is a better translation for the word? I think I will skip this one and see if we hear back from Sakateka on the questions I already asked her. If not, I will simply look for another source. Surely this will be possible if this is true; it's only tactical common sense. And there is probably more to be said about this, for that matter. LMK if you have a lightbulb moment, but if not don't worry too much about this.Elinruby (talk) 08:15, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

@Elinruby The refs looks like it went through some machine translation failure. Could you provide the original ref (in Ukrainian)? For the record, we should always retain the original title of the work in whatever language it was in, and then optionally add its translation using the cite template trans_title= parameter. I've seen a ton of problems originating from title etc. translations, which result in titles that exist only on Wikipedia and are hard to distinguish from hoaxes (fake works that don't exist). Here, we can assume there is a Ukrainian historian, first name a variant of Anatoliy, second name similar to Kentij/Kenty, who wrote a book that roughly translates as Ukrainian Insurgent Army in 1944-1945. No publisher, no date, no isbn = major headache and a mostly unacceptable reference. A bit of googling in Polish does show that there is a Ukrainian historian (1937-)) whose name in Polish is indeed rendered as "Anatolij Kentij.

Short bio. He is almost certainly a reliable scholar (reliable doesn't mean unbiased, of course). Plugging this name into Google Translate pl to uk gives us uk:Кентій Анатолій Вікторович, and suggests that the work cited is Українська повстанська армія в 1944—1945 роках. К., 1999. Unfortunately, that's where my luck and skills run out - I couldn't find such a work in any repository, so I am unsure if it is a book, academic article, newspaper article, blog... It may be findable by someone who can read and write Ukrainian but sadly, I reply on google translate for Cyrillic.

Btw, I appreciate your attempts to translate stuff about Ukrainian to English, but remember GIGO. There's a reason I would usually write a new article from scratch than translate something from Polish Wikipedia (unless it's already Good Article+ there). And as we can see, a high density of footnotes =/= good quality article. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:22, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

I have done this quite a bit, mostly from French, but as I recall I first met you when I was trying to decipher something Polish about a castle because I was bored with all the French machine translations in the queue. It's pretty tedious but I am a nerd, and great caution is required if you don't speak the language, which I do exercise. (In French I know what machine translation tends to get wrong, and can always go to the original, so it is easier) But yeah, I specifically decode bad machine translation. If I think something is important, I will venture outside my comfort zone into other languages, and in fact got the Editor of the week award for rescuing the Operation Car Wash bad machine translation from Brazilian Portugese. That article has since grown and may never completely cover the breadth of that scandal, but at least it came sufficiently to the attention of English speakers that somebody made a movie about it, and now that scandal is common knowledge.

Once we can get the original author to understand that she needs to make 150 more edits to the English wikipedia, mind you, I will do my best to make her fix it herself, so she doesn't repeat these errors, but meanwhile some valid flaws have been pointed out that should be remedied. And with all its omissions it represents some history that is currently itself being suppressed in favor of the Soviet "Nazi" narrative. Also, we do not currently have a Ukrainian translator afaik, and I would like to encourage her to become one (and produce better work than this)> I will see what I can do with what you found, and if not, as I say, there is always finding another source (that is why the Further Reading is so long -- those are proposed sources) or. as you say, re-writing from scratch. But considering my absolute lack of prior knowledge it is easier to start from somebody else's work. I am not ruling it out, however. I have no intention whatsoever, I assure you, of allowing the article to remain in its current form, but I start from sources, and GizzyCatBella needs to stop changing the article scope.

And so much for "easy question", eh? Elinruby (talk) 08:57, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

@Elinruby Did you reach to WT:UKRAINE? Also, if this got protected, it can be draftified, unprotected, and she can work on it there.

no, good idea. I *have* tried contacting everyone on the list of Ukrainian translators over another article, and wasn't completely shocked to get crickets. You asked for the original Ukrainian, which I will paste below. Elinruby (talk) 09:28, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

btw, as to draftification, that would certainly be more respectful, but would it prevent me from helping her, do you know? If not, please do suggest this if the AfD is going south, but looks like it may fail of its own accord, and it's a little insulting that I can't get the time to fix the article because I have to keep telling people over and over again that I will fix the article, but apparently it's more fun to talk about how nobody is ever going to take the time to fix the article :) But hey, they aren't looking at the article or its sources, so I guess it's a bit much to expect them to look at my edit history or the archives of my talkpage, where all the barnstars are. Elinruby (talk) 09:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

And btw, welcome to the quagmire that is Eastern European nationalism-themed topics on Wikipedia. Hope you won't burn out too quickly. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:21, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

In my mind I am here to visit, and not necessarily planning to stay. Congo and Algeria need me more, in general. That Ukainian source is here, but I don't think it helps.

Однією з найважливіших відмінностей української партизанської війни проди радянської влади були напади на великі міста та селища міського типу, так звані райцентри. Вони мали особливе значення. Для проведення такої атаки були потрібні великі сили, не менше кількох сотень людей. Шляхом нападів на штаб районної влади командування УПА за словами українського історика Анатолія Кентія мало намір: «а)змусити радянську владц залишити в райцентрах більше сил і тим самим послабити свою присутність в сільській місцевості; б)створювати перешкоди на шляху зміцнення місцевої влади і паралізувати їх дії проти визвольного руху; в)перервати збір сільськогосподарського контингенту та інші дії сільської влади

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Sociology

In this edit to Talk:Cambridge Companions you said that you think in your field sociology the The Wiley Blackwell Companions are more popular over the Cambridge Companions. As such I wonder if you can point me to the websites of various sociology book publishers for consideration of a good university education. There is this Bibliography of sociology but it lists individual books rather than catalogs. For example Harvard University Press has https://www.hup.harvard.edu/results-list.php?hcid=43 1008] books for sociology as I write this sentence and presumably all of them are widely cited and as such their authors can have their own Wikipedia biographies here based on passing WP:PROF criteria. We can not list all the 1008 books of HUP in our Wikipedia article but surely you can point me to other publishers which publish sociology books. Solomon7968 12:20, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

@Solomon7968 There are so many. I am afraid I can't answer you as to do so properly would amount to writing a major research paper. But check out the book reviewed here. Also this (longer version here). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:57, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Jonah Frankel (businessman)

Cześc Nie wiem jak się tu w en:wiki przenosi artykuły pod inna nazwę a Ty tu jesteś obeznany. Czy możesz ten artykuł przenieść pod inny tytuł? W polskojęzycznej utworzyłem artykuł zgodnie z źródłami pod tytułem Joseph Jonas Fränckel. Nie wiem skąd takie nazwisko tutaj, nawet w tu podanym źródłe The Jewish Encyclopedia postac występuje jako Jonas Fränckel Innych nazwiska odmian nie znalazłem a jak sa to pewnie wynikają z błędnego zapisu. --Adamt (talk) 17:59, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

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Renaming articles

Piotrus, it really is very rude to rename Good Articles without even discussing the matter first. The Tuberculosis article has been stable for years now. Please could you kindly at least ping me before going ahead with whatever you suppose is best in future. Many thanks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:36, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap I am sorry, but I don't see how renaming can be "rude", I was simply following wP:BOLD. If you disagree with my rename, per WP:BRD, you are welcome to revert me on Cultural depictions of tuberculosis (I won't consider that being rude, providing you explain your rationale per D). We can hold a proper WP:RM from the old name to the one I feel is more standard across various articles, if you think it would be best. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:19, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I actually can't revert it as I'm not a file mover, so the action is semi-irreversible, i.e. requires a great deal of additional work with requests for admin action, securing consensus and so forth. I think in these circumstances (which apply to over 99% of all Wikipedia editors...) it is very definitely rude to go ahead with such an action without discussion. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:23, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap Chad, seriously, anyone can move such an article, you don't need any special privileges (it just requires a WP:AUTOCONFIRM level which I am sure you got ages ago). I've been here for almost 20 years, I've moved hundreds of articles and it's the first time I've heard a complaint that it is "rude". I am always happy to apologize for mistakes made, but no, in this case, I don't think I've done anything wrong; instead, I find your tone ("don't do it again") not WP:CIVil enough to meet our rules - please refactor it or otherwise keep such tone away from my talk pages. Relevant policies were already cited - WP:BOLD, WP:BRD. See also WP:MOVE. The new name is not controversial - you still haven't explained why you think it is worse, if you even think that, you just complained I moved it. I am sorry, but this sounds like WP:OWN, and you may want to consider apologizing for making us spend our time on this seemingly pointless discussion, and for your tone. Otherwise, I suggest we end this discussion here before it pointlessly escalates. Cheers, _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:33, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Well, clearly we don't agree on the principle. On the matter of fact, I can't move it back to the previous title as that now already exists; a file mover would have to delete the old file (now a redirect) to make way for the move, as you can easily verify for yourself. Very few users can do that. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:20, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Well, here's the 2nd time! Actually, I think I have complained about you doing this before. I also often move boldly, but if people complain, as they very rarely do, I don't climb up on my high horse and start showering them with guidelines. That is also rude. WP:MOVE is not actually very sympathetic to "bold" moves. I doubt you are right about the technical aspects - I also often find "bold" moves need an admin to undo. Johnbod (talk) 14:01, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

So... you guys have little experience with moving articles. That's fine, but please do not blame me for your lack of experience. If you need help, I can link the relevant policies or help forums, but since, still, nobody has explained what's wrong with the new title, nor asked me to do anything outside "don't move stuff!" (which I considered unfair and impolite), I consider this matter closed (and to be clear, I have no objection to the article being moved back, feel free to do it - just please, provide a rationale better than "I like it more"; I provided mine - Wikipedia:Article_titles#Consistent_titling). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 15:16, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Fascism in Russia

Hi! The article has been made redirect, no argument consideration / analysis has been made, is it normal? Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fascism in Russia. Manyareasexpert (talk) 10:55, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

@Manyareasexpert It's not best practices. You can ask the closer for a detailed rationale, which they should've provided in the first place. If they don't provide one or you find it inadequate, you can take this to WP:DELREVIEW. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:29, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

@Arbitrarily0, what was your reasoning for assigning the redirect? Have you reviewed arguments regarding sources proving notability, and arguments regarding Fascism in Russia being wider term which could actually encompass Rashism, not vice versa? Where should sources talking about Fascism in Russia but not about Rashism be put now? Those would be removed from Rashism as an offtopic and seems like no place for them in wiki to go into now? Thanks! Manyareasexpert (talk) 16:58, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello! I have expanded my rationale, as I should have done in the first place. Please take further concerns about my decision to Deletion Review. From the discussion, it seems like the sources you mention are best suited for Rashism. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 20:50, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sdrqez

You're welcome. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:03, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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If you CANNOT OR WILL NOT DO BASIC RESEARCH when conducting an AfD, or if you do and discard the results because you don't like them, then you should not be claiming to do WP:BEFORE in an AfD message. If this seems an excessive burden to you then consider slowing down the rate which you are posting AfDs. Artw (talk) 12:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

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Didn't want a chat, just need you to stop doing it. Cheers. Artw (talk) 14:26, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

@Artw And I need you to stop telling me what to do. Move along now. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

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I just sent a draft for review and there seems to be a long queue. Just wondered if you may please take a look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alberto_Caballero_(astronomer) Thank you Iberastro (talk) 22:17, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@Iberastro It has been deleted, so I am afraid I can't help. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:36, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Of potential interest

You may want to look at List of demons in fiction and List of vampires as well. The case may not be the same, but they are in similar poor sourcing condition. At least they are more "complete" though.

If a list takes the literal form of a category listing, why do we have it? Just use the category. -- ferret (talk) 13:21, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

@Ferret I mostly concur, through the lists can be more informative (ex. they list the associated work). The question is, from a wikilawyering perspective, do they meet LISTN? The sourcing is poor, particularly for the demons. I'd say go ahead and AfD the first one (also, it fails its own inclusion criteria - "This is a list of notable demons" - many are not even wikilinked). Although, of course, the topic of demons in fiction/demons in culture/demons in popular culture is very likely to be notable... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:40, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

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Keep

I think this should be kept, or perhaps merged and redirected to the Unexplained Phenomena page. These topics are of interest to people, including me, who have an interest in all unexplained or unsolved phenomena so a page collecting them together is helpful for navigation between the topics and to new ones I don’t know about yet. I agree there is ambiguity between the two pages, but it comes down to semantics, and if some people call it a mystery and some a phenomenon… why say one is right and not the other? If it leads people to Wikipedia via Google or other searches and helps them to find things… what’s the problem? DarrenG1985 (talk) 05:56, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

@DarrenG1985 Which discussion are you talking about? Please link it. TIA. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:18, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

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RfC

I'd like to highlight one point, that the sources that the IP is providing don't actually talk about Onet and the Moszner test, one source recalls the controversy, however in a different context, not specifically discussing the test itself, simply recalling the incident. In short, what IP is arguing for is synthesis and his POV based on that. Thus, when reviewing the sources it is important not to take them at face value as relevant, just because the IP cited them. --E-960 (talk) 18:29, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

@E-960 I haven't had time to review the particular sources provided (I just recall seeing/reading some articles in pl media dedicated to this controversy, which definitely suggest we need a dedicated section to this, IMHO). Anyway, my ping for you was just to have someone enforce WP:CIV/WP:NPA, if only with some stern words from an admin (I always believe in warning first, blocking only later). Cheers, _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Indeed this was a publicized story. However, let me ask you, is it balanced to include a big paragraph about this media happening around the rifle in the article? Notice how now no one raises the issue anymore in the Polish media, and it's because Moszner (the guy who did the test) was discredited, a writer with FragOut! magazine wrote: “The tests concluded by Moszner, an ex-GROM operator, were clearly biased – virtually no carbine currently in military service is expected to handle thirty magazines of continuous burst fire. Considering that Grot’s barrel has relatively light profile the test, if anything, proved that Grot handles intensive firing schedule very well. It is no worse than AR-15s and AKs with similar barrel profiles.”The so called “sand test” was also questionable as the carbines such as AK and AR seemed to be dry when subjected to the sand… Yet, when [the] Grot was subjected to the sand test, the dust mysteriously stuck on the gun surface, that can indicate the lubrication of the assault rifle before the test – something that could explain the result… Thus, the “test” was not conducted in an objective manner (at best) and staged (at worst).” That's a pretty damning assessment, I don't think that this is the be-all-end-all story about the rifle, it was a side show really. Once Onet got the attention and clicks, the subsequent criticism of Moszner was ignored. --E-960 (talk) 16:25, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

@E-960 Criticism of criticism, if reliable, is certainly valid. Is the pl wiki entry not balanced? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

The polish version is fine, however the RfC text on the english side is nowhere near as accurate and objective, also on the english side we don't need an entire section on this (this may have been a local happening, but internationally it was more of an FYI event) just 2 or 3 sentences at most, to summarize the the event, also IP with his satelites, were trying to add entire paragraphs based on synthesis about this issue. --E-960 (talk) 18:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

I am a bit concerned about whether some IPs or like may represent Russian web brigades... however, if something has a paragraph on pl wiki, it likely should have one here. Notability is not regional, see WP:SYSTEMICBIAS, etc. How about we translate the content from pl wiki, including the wording, etc.? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:41, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

I really think 2 or 3 sentences is sufficient here, remember that the Polish article is much longer, so we don't want to end up with WP:UNDUE on the English article by having too much detail regarding this one issue, thus making it look like this was some earth shattering event rather than a media side-show. However, we can use the Polish text as a basis of how the issue was presented objectively, I would not object to this (however the proposed text of the RfC is not good). Btw, I also think the IP and his satellites are unusual, as Rzęsor was dormant for 10 years, while Military Galaxy Brain for 3, and all three accused other editors who reverted them of "vandalism" during ensuing discussion. --E-960 (talk) 10:36, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

@E-960 A quick suggestion: you can report them all to wP:SPI. Can't hurt. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:38, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Piotrus, in any case I don't think this RfC is not the way to go, as it would insert already an erroneous statement. --E-960 (talk) 14:31, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Happy Birthday Piotrus! Alex Bakharev (talk) 10:09, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Reply: Star Trader

Thanks for the info about Star Trader. I'll see what else I can dig up about the game, and will let you know if I find enough to start an article.Guinness323 (talk) 18:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

MWD115's WikiProjects

Thanks for your comment at User talk:MWD115. Could use your help, if you're willing, with other issues relating to this user. They are an interesting case, somewhere in the intersection of single-minded, productive, non-responsive, lax, and sealionish. Kind of a combo of a prolific article creator (often cited as the "most difficult task at Wikipedia") on the one hand, and yet on the other, someone who seems to have great difficulty in following simple "how to reply to me" instructions (see the discussion just above yours) after three years here. In the past, I've had to notify them numerous times about how to provide copy or translate attribution for their article creations involving WP:COPYRIGHT issues (now archived; latest here in excruciating detail; scope of the problem here; see also CCI). Their adherence to copyright is now much improved, but it's been long, slow, and repetitive, and the rare responses with brief but earnest promises seem to be forgotten or postponed. In any case, your recommendation to add WikiProjects is a good one; I added some follow-up, because they need spoon-feeding or it won't get done (and it still might not). So if you can keep half an eye out for how things go, that might help. Thanks again, Mathglot (talk) 19:20, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

@Mathglot I will see what I can do. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:15, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

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DYK / Rape during the liberation of Serbia

Hello, thank you for your warm welcome! I am new to en.wikipedia, but I am an active member on sr.wikipedia. The Rape during the liberation of Serbia is well known in our country and in media, but there was no Wiki article on it, which I found surprising. I found it was important to translate the article that I did on Serbian Wikipedia. Also, thanks for editing the talk page of the article, I will work on doing that on future articles.

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Ostend Film Festival

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Thanks

As a Sephardic Jew myself, it's always nice to a learn little more about my culture :) thanks for helping me out there, in quite the unexpected way! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:50, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron Sure. Which article/edit do you mean though? :) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:01, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

ah – i mean Crotalus (liturgy) :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 09:02, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron As much as I'd like to take the credit, I fear you may be confusing me with someone else. I don't think I was involved in editing this article. (I did edit numerous other articles related to Jewish culture, so errr, feel free to thank me for something else :P). But here I think you may want to double check and direct some wikilove at someone else. Unless I am just having a brain freeze? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:08, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, no, that's absolutely me being very stupid! Mixed you up with Pbritti ;) thanks for that one, Pbritti! And thank you (actually this time) for your work on the history of the Jews in Poland – a monstrous, but fascinating page to boot. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 09:12, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: Consider this me sharing credit with Piotrus, even if I don't recall having previously had the pleasure of running into them. And, yes! Sephardic Jewish history is a favorite topic for me, mostly as a way to make up for the centuries of wrong treatment the people of my faith visited on your people. ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:35, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Iona and Peter Opie#Split needed

I replied to a message you left on this talk page several months ago. pburka (talk) 15:22, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

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WP:VGRS equivalent for webcomics

There is WP:Webcomic sources. It has very little history and I wrote/compiled most of the text on this page. It serves as a useful reference point or discussion location. Feel free to start discussions on its talk page! ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:49, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Nemesis (board game)

I've came across a new draft, Draft:Nemesis (board game), and I think you asked to undelete it. Right now, there are 3 refs counting towards GNG (GamesRadar, Tabletop Magazine, Ars Technica), but its gameplay section is unencyclopedic. If you could clean it up and see if it's okay for mainspace it'd be great! Please reply at draft talk, thanks! VickKiang (talk) 11:47, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

@VickKiang I will be working on this shortly. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:43, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

PS. Regarding the gameplay, it should be trimmed, but it doesn't impede mainspacing it. Notability is shown, I think that's enough. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:04, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

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Work required

Piotrus, I am still mostly retired but just noticed some nuanced work is needed on LGBT-free zone and I would appreciate it if you could flag the requirement in appropriate places as I have forgotten where one would do that - but obviously, stand by for some drama. The main issue is that the concept of the 'LGBT-free zone' is verifiably an activist construct by an artist [20] rather than a reality. The stated local government policy which was verifiably to make a district 'free of LGBT ideology' which was about de-funding and de-legitimizing LGBT activism. Therefore the article title is misleading and leads readers to assume there was an actual apartheid of sexuality in the country, which was indeed a common misconception. The title would need a change, perhaps a rare use of shock quotes. The intro would need the clarification to be made. Sorry I can't help further for now. -Chumchum7 (talk) 05:55, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

@Chumchum7 I have never researched this issue. I suspect you make valid points, but my motivation to work on related topics is not very high, to say the least, given the extreme trolling/harassment issues they attract. I might comment in an RfC or such, or when pinged in a particular discussion, but I don't think I have the motivation to do any serious wok on the article. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:49, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

First Partition of Poland 250th anniversary for OTD

Good morning sir. I was wondering if you could patch up a few unsourced paragraphs quickly - the anniversary is on Aug 5. Thanks Bumbubookworm (talk) 21:55, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

@Bumbubookworm I will take a look at this soon. Ping User:Volunteer Marek, User:Merangs, User:Artemis Andromeda (help?). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 23:16, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

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