Wikipedia talk:Hinduism-related topics notice board/Archive 6

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Hindustani

FYI, the usage of Hindustani is up for discussion, see talk:Hindustani -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 04:31, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Title discussion going

On going discussion:[[1]]Vasanth.Krish pande (talk) 14:21, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Tripurasura

I came by the article for Tripurasura, and it is in terrible shape. I can't find any sources to fix it, so I hope some people in this project could help out. Angryapathy (talk) 17:29, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Lists of articles in reference books

Hi, all. I have been going about creating, at least starting, lists of articles for the various religion related WikiProjects based on the articles contained in other print reference works relating to that topic. The list for Hinduism is now started at Wikipedia:WikiProject Hinduism/Encyclopedic articles. I do expect to be adding lists of articles from other reference sources in the new future, as a go through them, so it will get longer, but I do think that having such lists should help the editors here determine which articles, if any, are significant but perhaps still missing, and in some cases determine which article some specific content might perhaps best fit in. John Carter (talk) 21:29, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Krishna reassessment

Krishna, an article from this WikiProject, is up for reassessement. Comments would be welcome. -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:59, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

"Dharmic writers"

Some time ago (2007), the article Dharmic religion was deleted after this deletion discussion and redirected to Indian religions. Category:Dharmic religions was deleted in 2008 after this deletion discussion. There is currently a deletion discussion about the final remnant category of these POV forks, Category:Dharmic writers. Attention may also need to be paid to {{Modern Dharmic writers}}, which contains such occultists as Helena Blavatsky. This all seems rather ill-defined and not source based. Please consider participating in this discussion. Thank you. Yworo (talk) 17:09, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Viṣṇu Smṛti

Talk:Viṣṇu Smṛti hasn't shown up yet on watchlist Wikipedia:WikiProject Hinduism/Article alerts but will do. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:11, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Afc submission

Does anybody know if this submission is notable or useful for enwp? mabdul (public) 13:48, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Good — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.82.167.184 (talk) 12:17, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Can original Sanskrit Sources be used as references?

Can Sanskrit documents from online sources be cited in references on articles Hinduism.I am really hamstrung by not including them,as the translations into english are themselves copyrighted,or in some cases,translation do not exist at all. The sources I am referring to are:

And many articles,like this one,,suffer from lack of proper citations.So,if the original text could be included to clarify this...?

I would like an opinion on this issue. Guru-45 19:12, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

No, original Sanskrit Sources are WP:PRIMARY sources and should not be used as can be misinterpreted. English translations with commentaries may be considered reliable. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:53, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

What about translations and commentaries in other languages like Bengali or Telegu?Guru-45 07:09, 24 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guru-45 (talk • contribs)

My personal opinion is that because many readers of the English language wikipedia will not be able to check or read these references (which is of course the purpose of having references) non-English secondary sources should not be used as a sole reference. I don't see any harm in them being added as a second reference though. -- Q Chris (talk) 07:55, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

That's not how it is. Non-English sources can be used as secondary sources even with no English sources to support. An article on English Wikipedia can stay here with all references being non-English irrespective of whether majority of people can verify it or not. They simply can not be used as primary sources for commentaries but can be used to cite quotes. Meaning, you cannot use the sanskrit Bhagavad Gita to explain the meaning of "karmanye vadhikaraste ma phaleshu kadachana" but you can use it to cite this quote. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 09:14, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I see you are right. The Verifiability section on non-English sources does say that "English-language sources are preferred over non-English ones, where English sources of equal quality and relevance are available" though. -- Q Chris (talk) 10:17, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

So,I can add the relevant citations to a commentary,to support what I am putting in,even if it is in Bengali or some other language?Guru-45 (talk) 17:28, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

It is better to non-English sources than no references. However, if reliable English sources exist, non-English sources should be preferred. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:39, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok.Guru-45 (talk) 18:48, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Avatar#Requested move 2013

The issue of moving Avatar to Avatar (Hinduism), while the term Avatar links to a disambiguation page, is being discussed. Please, offer your opinion in Talk:Avatar#Requested move 2013. Hoverfish Talk 15:07, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Hinduism and violence

Hinduism and violence is currently a redirect to Religious violence in India. At Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 June 5#Hinduism and violence it has been proposed to delete the redirect. Your comments on the proposal would be welcome. Thryduulf (talk) 23:29, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Merge proposal at Talk:Keshav Dev Temple

More opinions are welcome. ComfyKem (talk) 20:29, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Attention of Hindu Wikipedians sought

The article on Thomas_the_Apostle is putting baseles allegations on Hinduism with their portrayel that St Thomas (who died in Iran killed by a Zoroastrian king named Mazdai) has come to India and was killed by a Hindu assasin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Thomas_the_Apostle#Portraying_Myth_as_History

Have checked and posted comments in the page talk Talk:Thomas_the_Apostle#Portraying_Myth_as_History By the by, after review find it is a minor issue that can be resolved by discussion. Prodigyhk (talk) 04:12, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Participate to complete the Shakti Peethas Category

Any one who is responsible for the category Shakti peethas please complete the list. Devi Kanya Kumari and Shuchindram temple in the tip of mainland India are Shakti Peethas. Please verify the claim and add it to the category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ram K Bhattatirippad (talk • contribs) 15:20, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Shivarahasya Purana

The links provided Primary sources listed are not working. The link to wikisource.org mentions --> This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below . Request help from fellow editors on where this source has been moved and the link for the same. Prodigyhk (talk) 15:20, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Ambarisha Article

This picture does not seem to be authentic for the following reasons:

1. This picture seems to contain Arabic script, whereas it is supposed to be a depiction of an ancient Hindu king. This does not add up since Arabic has never/rarely be used in Hindu art.

2. This picture shows figures that are most probably meant to be Brahmins, but they are not shown to have sacred threads.

3. The architecture of the buildings in the picture are Islamic.

The authenticity of this picture needs to be verified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akashputhraya (talk • contribs) 14:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Akashputhraya (talk) 14:28, 20 August 2013 (UTC) Akash Puthraya 20/08/2013

It is not Hindu art, but a picture from the Mughal translation of the Mahabharata. Since no other free picture of Ambarisha from Hindu art was found, this is the best illustration of Ambarisha we have.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:59, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

My missing topics pages

I have updated Missing topics about Hinduism - Skysmith (talk) 11:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Chitragupta Article

Please improve Chitragupta article. It is a Hinduism related article and needs a lot of improvement and editing.

${\mathfrak {ChitranshGaurav}}$ ^{( $Talk$ )}

Good morning Chitransh Gaurav Advice what specific improvement required. The article as it stands is well developed with a lot of content. Prodigyhk (talk) 04:14, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Good Morning Prodigyhk, the article Chitragupta needs more references; its introduction is too long, this content can be added to other subtopics; more multimedia files should be added; there are a few redlinks; infobox should be added with more information like his sons, etc. Regards Chitransh Gaurav 04:14, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Transl

Template:Transl has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.

Template:Transl is up for deletion. Pages like this, which use the International Alphabet of Sanskrit Transliteration (IAST) (or other systems), may suffer. Future edits may be tedious as a lot of Sanskrit texts are solely available in IAST format and not in the original script. Join the Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_September_6#Template:Transl and voice your opinions.

Kenfyre (talk) 11:06, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Lopamudra

Reading this article, it sounds like this female character is mythical or legendary. For example, there is not even an approximate time for her life, no dating at all. But she is categorized on Wikipedia as if she was a historical figure. Can anyone clear this up? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:11, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Lopamudra as well as her husband Agastya are semi-mythical. Both of them are attributed as authors of hymns in the Rigveda, an ancient Hindu scripture. However, in epic and Puranic texts, they also appear as characters of Hindu mythology. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 06:14, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Liz Lopamudra and her husband Agasthiar are historical figures. As per the information on the Government of India website, Agasthiar is believed to have lived during the 6th Century BC. Have now updated the page with the reference.Prodigyhk (talk) 12:57, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Karna

Karna is in dire need of cleaning. Also as the page is semi-protected it keeps getting lengthy edit requests. Please keep watch on the page. I will try to clean some of it but am sure i won't be able to do it all. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 06:10, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Article on Sanat Kumara in need of attention

Sanat Kumara is part of this project but I have no idea if what it says about Sanat Kumara and Hinduism is correct. Dougweller (talk) 21:33, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

The talk page has a post saying "Where is the reference to the Hinduism section? Hinduism doesn't say anything about Shambala, nor about Cosmic, Planetary and etc Planes, or even that Sanat Kumar rules over them.

About Mahabharata, it is said "These details are given in the last chapters of Mahabharata". Where?

"Sanath Kumar is the Planetary Lord. It is said that He receives the energies from higher planes, in the month of Aries, and transmits them to the Spiritual Hierarchy in the month of Taurus."

Again, where is it said?

All this sound very theosophic, but not hindu. Please, include the references, or change it" That was by an IP over a year ago. Dougweller (talk) 21:36, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Dougweller You may have noticed already that WP has 2 separate articles. The article Sanatkumara details the Hindu mythology and is part of this project on Hinduism. While this article Sanat Kumara that you have highlighted is not listed as under the Hinduism project, since it has much more information than from traditional Hinduism. Also, noticed that in addition to a small section on Hinduism, this article include a section on Marvel comics. :) Prodigyhk (talk) 12:40, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Actually Talk:Sanat Kumara has the Hinduism wikiproject template on it, and as it discusses HinduismI was hoping someone could make sure that whatever it says is correct. Dougweller (talk) 11:33, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Need subject experts at pantheism

Conflict between two editors as to the inclusion of material on Hinduism in pantheism. I gather that neither of them knows eastern religion all that well. Mangoe (talk) 17:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Talk:List of Hindu festivals#2014 dates

Please see above. -- 签名 _sig at 09:49, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

responded in the page Prodigyhk (talk) 02:10, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Samarth Yogi Arwind

Dear Hinduism experts: The above article was abandoned before being finished. Now it's about to be deleted as a stale draft. Is this a notable person, and should the article be save and improved? —Anne Delong (talk) 22:56, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Anne Delong I tried though, if you have the biographical information about him, such as "date of birth", "birth year", etc. You must provide it. Bladesmulti (talk) 03:20, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Bladesmulti, I don't know anything about this person, but it seemed that a lot of work had already been put into the article and it I thought that it was a shame to see it deleted when almost ready. Do you think this is ready to be an article? Are the sources in the article of good quality? —Anne Delong (talk) 03:34, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, obviously, the sources are not unreliable at all! Gonna give it a few more minutes, just watch. Bladesmulti (talk) 04:08, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission

Could you have a look at this submission? Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 12:10, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Also this one. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 21:54, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Neo-Vedanta section needs work

It might be useful for more people to work on expanding a section at the article Neo-Vedanta - a new section, near the top, on the history and definition of the term. This new section includes information on how the term has been used both by scholars and polemically (an interesting combination). There is some discussion here: Talk:Neo-Vedanta#Definition_.2B_history_of_Term:_section_added.2C_needs_expansion. I hope this is an appropriate place to file this notice, and apologize if it isn't. -- Presearch (talk) 23:58, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Madhwa Kanva Brahmins has been tagged PROD

The new article Madhwa Kanva Brahmins is a mess and needs serious attention from someone with some background in Hinduism. It has been tagged PROD. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:52, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Merge Sri Siddhi Vinayakar Temple, Chittampara into Chittampara?

Talk:Chittampara This seems to be the village where the temple is located, and both articles need sources. Am I thinking correctly? —PC-XT+ 04:52, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Attention needed on multiple issues with Sati_(practice)

A obvious WP:SPA, keeps on edit warring for over 1 month now. Conflict started again after[2], Join [3], and especially [4]. OccultZone (Talk) 07:00, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Wendy Doniger book

Can some Hinduism and Indian news experts please take a look at both The Hindus: An Alternative History and Talk: The Hindus: An Alternative History, and weigh in, in particular to the use of the word "heretical." Thank you. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 19:52, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update

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Fringe material at Dwarkadhish Temple

I just moved and cleaned up a bit Dwarkadhish Temple (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and some of the fringe stuff about it being 2500 years old was immediately replaced. I can't comment on all the sources (and one link doesn't work), but Archaeology of India: retrospect and prospect - page 159, Amar Nath Khanna was written before the research I used to date the temple to the 15th century. And even that source seems to say something different.[5] I think that there is a structure there about 2000 years old but haven't yet firmly sourced it. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 17:11, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Demigod

Hello. Would anybody be able to look at the Demigod article, please? There's a long section dealing with Hinduism that cites no sources. Apart from the paragraph about the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, I'm sceptical about the relevance of any of it, but I know so little I can't begin to clean it up. Many thanks. --Lo2u ^{(T • C)} 19:25, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Koenraad Elst (serious NPOV violations in a BLP article)

There is a discussion on the very serious NPOV (Neutrality) violations in the BLP article Koenraad Elst at the BLP noticeboard .

The NPOV violations were explained in great detail by the subject of the lemma here:

These links say among other things:

Well, there you have it. The lemma on me has ended up taking this form because some militant among your contributors purposely wanted to “warn readers” against me. Please cite me an instruction for encyclopedists that names “warning” among the legitimate goals of an encyclopedia.

Either you remove the lemma altogether, or you straighten it out and apply the rules of encyclopedia-writing to it. At any rate, in a encyclopedia, I count on being judged for what I myself have said or done, and not for the gossip my declared enemies have come up with.

If Wikipedia wants to live up to its promise of being a reliable encyclopedic source, it will strike this and all sentences resembling it from its article on me. At most, it can use me as an example of how it was fooled by some of its all-too-partisan collaborators. Speaking of whom: the history page accompanying my page proves forever that some Wikipedia collaborators wanted to inflict on me the maximum harm possible, an attitude incompatible with work for an encyclopedia.

The old discussion was here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive178

Because of the very serious NPOV violations in a BLP article, this requires the attention of neutral editors. --Calypsomusic (talk) 09:03, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

COTW

{{Current Hinduism COTW}} and {{Old Hinduism COTW}} has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 07:06, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Hinduism At Wikimania 2014

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Hindu Temple of Dayton

I created a page for the Hindu Temple of Dayton, one of the most beautiful buildings in Ohio. If somebody could please take a look at it and help with the explanations of Hinduism, it would be appreciated. I'm proud of the article, but I just don't know enough about Hinduism to write about such topics. Mvblair (talk) 16:59, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 15/05

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mauna (silence). FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 19:19, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for expert editors at various noticeboards

There are a number of debates and AFDs concerning articles about Hindu Astrology submitted by User:Aditya soni. I feel that these discussions would benefit from some expert opinion from people more familiar with the culture and scriptures of Hinduism. --Salimfadhley (talk) 22:20, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

[6], [7]

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Vijayanagara literature in Kannada considered for Main Page

There is an ongoing discussion on whether to feature the WP:FA quality article Vijayanagara literature in Kannada on the Main Page.

You may participate at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Vijayanagara literature in Kannada.

Thank you,

— Cirt (talk) 17:13, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Intrusion into Sai Baba of Shirdi article.

There are 14 mentions of Meher Baba in the Sai Baba of Shirdi article, which up until this time has enjoyed a rare Hinduism GA (Good Article) status. Many of these additions were placed recently by a single editor, Danice thrall. This editor seems to have it in her mind to proselytize about Baba on articles of other masters Baba mentioned. In truth, Meher Baba never formally met Sai Baba. Rather there is a single witness that Sai Baba said one word to him. Baba did have a connection to a disciple of Sai Baba, Upasni Mahraj. I think some editors versed in Sai Baba from the Hinduism project should take a look at all this out-of-place fuss about Meher Baba in the Sai Baba article. This is like mentions in the past of Sathya Sai Baba being very exaggerated in the Shirdi Sai article. Please help me weed out some of this intrusion of Meher Baba into the Sai article by Meher followers. Dazedbythebell (talk) 19:59, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you to those who helped to resolve this problem. Dazedbythebell (talk) 13:14, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Identifying two goddesses

Hi, Could you please help identifying these two goddesses? Thanks in advance, Yann (talk) 15:15, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Four-arm goddess on a tiger, Bharatiya Lok Kala Museum, Udaipur, India.
Four-arm goddess on a horse, Bharatiya Lok Kala Museum, Udaipur, India.

Yann, They seem to be Rajasthani folk goddesses, not Durga. Even the images titled knights could be Rajasthani folk gods like Gogaji, Ramdev Pir, Veer Teja etc. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:14, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Neelkanth temple, Alwar district

Hi, I started this article. I have quite a number of pictures, but help is needed for the text. Thanks, Yann (talk) 01:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

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Issues on Hinduism

The main article, Hinduism, in its current state contains a lot of errors, including the misrepresentation of sources. It requires a strict review. Kindly view the conversation at Talk:Hinduism#Article issues. Delibzr (talk) 23:51, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Opened a Rfc now. Delibzr (talk) 06:54, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Page for upacharas?

Reading Namaste, I came across the term "upacharas" with no explanation. There is no page for it. I linked it as [[upachara]]s, producing the redlink upacharas to at least show that it should be linked.

I am not a Hindu or particularly familiar with South Asian customs,* and certainly not qualified to even create a stub, so I'm bringing the matter here. Namaste.* --Thnidu (talk) 19:59, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

* Well, one or two. :-)

Thanks for pointing that out, Thnidu. I have created a quick and dirty stub at upachara. Hopefully other will help expand, improve, categorize etc. Pinging @Redtigerxyz: who is knowledgeable and active in the area. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 21:22, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Thnidu, upachara has multiple meaning. Can you please throw in some light on the context/article in question. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:50, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Redtigerxyz, as I said in my original comment in this §, I found the word in Namaste. It's in the 2nd ¶ of § Namaste#Uses. As Abecedare says, they've created a stub for it. --Thnidu (talk) 01:02, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Thnidu, sorry I missed it. When I read Namaste, I thought it as a greeting, rather than an article. Abecedare's article is accurate and solves the problem for now. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 06:06, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Category: Hindu religious workers

My personal impression is that Category:Hindu religious workers has become quite a mess. It also seems like Christian occupation categories (saints, monks, priests, religious leaders) have been imposed here while they are not applicable the same way. Could you please have a look if you see a way to improve the categorization? Marcocapelle (talk) 15:39, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

GA review

Hi can anyone do a GA review of Hinduism in Afghanistan? RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 17:23, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Ayurveda RFC

A Request for Comments is now in progress at Talk:Ayurveda concerning whether [[Category:Pseudoscience]] should be added to the article on Ayurveda. Participation in the RFC is encouraged. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:00, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Clean up

Vaishno Devi requires sincere cleanup and refimprove. -Nizil (talk) 18:31, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Proposed move of Vithoba

Proposed move discussion of a featured article Vithoba to Vitthal is going on here Talk:Vithoba#Requested move 29 July 2015. Comments are requested for that. Thank you. --Human3015^{Send WikiLove} 13:43, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Sompura Brahmin

Sompura Brahmin is unclear and hard to understand in many places, due I'm sure in large part to non-native or Indian English and partly to unexplained Hindu terms, such as shilp-shastra. I've done my best at editing it for clarity, but I know little more about Hinduism and Gujarat than the average American. The page needs work by a knowledgeable person. I'm willing to help with editing but I can't do any more with content. Please {{ping}} me to discuss. Thnidu (talk) 15:59, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@Thnidu: Better you post it at WT:IN. See my above comment on this talk page, I got no response from this page. You will find all experts at WT:IN. Best luck. --Human3015^{Send WikiLove} 17:30, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@Human3015: Thanks, ~~will do~~ done. --Thnidu (talk) 19:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Temples

Use of Sri and Swamy in temple names. Some don't use like Tirumala Venkateswara Temple, Hanuman Temple, Kedara-Gouri, Kanaka Durga Temple. To maintain uniformity there should be a consensus.--Vin09 (talk) 05:39, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

No! Each temple name should be taken case by case. You can't maintain uniformity as we have to use names based on what it is commonly known as. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:51, 5 August 2015 (UTC) (User:Dharmadhyaksha's response copied from WT:INB)

@Vin09: I don't see any relevant move discussions at any of the three temples you listed, so I am not sure what alternate name you are proposing or why. Can you clarify? Abecedare (talk) 06:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@Abecedare:I am actually supporting the above names, I stated them for example. I instead want to know the naming for pages which are unlike the above famous ones like, Sri Anjaneya Swamy Temple, Shamanur, Sri Laxmi Venkatesh Temple etc.--Vin09 (talk) 08:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Weak oppose - It depends upon the name of the temple. Keeping uniformity in the temple names such as use of Sir or Swamy may not be relevant, though I suggest go with the references. 16:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cutest Penguin (talk • contribs)

Help Akshardham Environment Violation Section

Hello Everyone,

If you have time would you please take a look at this article: [8] and this discussion [9] and provide your input. There is a cited content dispute I am having [10] and I feel that this board can help with some clarification for this topic. I was told to post here and I would find help. There seems to be a group of swaminarayan followers who refuse to allow cited information in the article. Also if you are member of this group, could you please refrain from providing a biased POV. It is difficult to be neutral because members of BAPS feel like it is their duty to make sure their group is portrayed a certain type of way on Wikipedia from cited controversy. Their group is not above Hinduism and their buildings are not better then any other one especially when there are valid citations. Another editor has asked openly for help on improving what has been written so please feel free to do so directly in the article.

Thank you, Swamiblue (talk) 03:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

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Category discussions

On this page there are three category discussions related to Hinduism. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:57, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Article on Vaishno devi Comment Comment

This article Vaishnodevi needs to be looked at. It has a lot of work to be done. The whole article stand on just one source and a few external links. I doubt whether so much detail as given , is even required. ~ ScitDei^{Wanna talk?} 07:11, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Wrong duration of yugas and incorrect number of gods in all wikipedia

Hi All,

Hi Team, > > Almost all wiki pages related to Yuga in Hinduism have incorrect > information which does not have any basis. > > The problem is with number of years inflated by a multiple of 360. So where > there should be 4800 years, there is 4800 * 360 = 1728000 years which is > not right. Here is the link for thorough research which even proves that > the ratio used for 4 yugas does not have an authentic base. > > In fact, each yuga is 2700 years with a 300 years of transitional phase. > Full research on the link here: > > *https://grahamhancock.com/dmisrab6 <https://grahamhancock.com/dmisrab6>*/ > > > I want to edit the duration of Yugas in all relevant articles and correct > it based on latest researches. Will I have to sit and edit each Wikipedia > manually? > > > > There is another issue with Wikipedia with number of Gods in all Hindu > related wikipedia. The number is inflated by a multiple of 1 crore. The > word "Koti" refers to greatness and not Crore. Here is the link for that. > This is right from authentic vedas. God is one, and in form of only 33 > powers, that is all what authentic vedas say. Out of nowhere this 330 > million has propped up. It is misinterpretation of word "Koti" which also > means Crore, but here it means Supreme, great etc. > > *http://indiaopines.com/33-crore-gods-hindus-hinduism/ > <http://indiaopines.com/33-crore-gods-hindus-hinduism/>* > > Please suggest how to change these 2 major things that are just not right > and infact spreading whole lot incorrect information about our religion. > > Shreyas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.111.223.43 (talk) 16:04, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Brahma Kumaris#RFC for adding the word "Cult"

I am asking for your participation in Talk:Brahma Kumaris#RFC for adding the word "Cult" Supdiop (T🔹C) 16:10, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Poles in mythology

Now we have a new article Poles in mythology, Please see and include suitable improvements , if any, in article Poles in mythology.

Rgds Mahitgar (talk) 09:24, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

The translation of the word SANKALPA

Hello all,

So, I am just surfing on the internet, checking on some stuff related to the "SANKALPA", and I found out that you misspelled the sanskrit traduction.

You write " संकल्प " , which actually means "SANSKRIT" and not SANKALPA

I really dont know how to write it, but Im sure its not like that. I don´t know if anyone here of the editing team has this kind of knowledge.

And please, if I am the one who is wrong, please let me know. Its important to me to know how to write SANKALPA in sanskrit. (2 november 2015) APLG88 (talk) 01:35, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Hindu movements and organizations

Category:Hindu movements and organizations has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. AusLondonder (talk) 22:32, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

You're invited! Women in Red World Virtual Edit-a-thon on Women in Religion

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Contradiction between articles Sati (practice) and Sati (goddess)

In the Sati (practice) article, an (unsourced) section claims:

Although the myth of the goddess Sati is that of a wife who dies by her own volition on a fire, this is not a case of the practice of sati. The goddess was not widowed, and the myth is quite unconnected with the justifications for the practice.

Meanwhile, in the Sati (goddess) article, a sourced sentence in the header claims:

The act of Sati, in which a Hindu widow immolates herself on her husband's funeral pyre as a final and consummate act of loyalty and devotion, is patterned after the deed committed by this goddess to uphold the honour of her husband.

It is sourced to Kinsley, David (1987, reprint 2005). Hindu Goddesses: Visions of the Divine Feminine in the Hindu Religious Tradition, Delhi: Motilal Banarsidass, ISBN 81-208-0394-9, p.35.

I'd tend to trust a sourced claim by default, but could someone with a deeper understanding of the subject than mine - which isn't hard - take a look?

(Incidentally - and purely out of curiosity, is there a {contradiction} template available?) 194.7.114.2 (talk) 11:58, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Suiten as a version of Varuna

@Joshua Jonathan, VictoriaGrayson, Ms Sarah Welch, Kautilya3, and Ogress: There has been a series of additions made by Japanese IP editors to the Varuna page and the Suitengū (Tokyo) page. These are currently uncited claims that Varuna is the same as the Shintoist deity Suiten. The lack of citation and poor syntax of the edits makes me suspicious and google gives me nothing on the connection. There may be an actual connection, but it doesn't seem well documented and may just be a case of interpretatio greaca where they are simply comparing two water deities with no concrete connection. Does anyone have any citations that confirm this connection or a strong enough background in both Hinduism and Shintoism to confirm this as original research? Iṣṭa Devatā (talk) 17:48, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

@Iṣṭa Devatā: Suiten is Varuna (see this at pages 121, 310, 415 etc), and many Shinto/East Asian deities have links to Hindu deities. If you are satisfied after WP:V, please add that Adrian Snodgrass' source to the two articles, and welcome the @IP from Japan. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 18:56, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Well that certainly proves that academics hold that association. At the same time, it would be nice to have a source that explains the link more clearly, rather than the parenthetical mention of Suiten in the Snodgrass. I remember reading Alexis Sanderson explaining the whole evolution of a form of Shiva into a deity of outhouses in Japan with the different steps in between the two. Something like that for this would be great (if it's possible). The question I'm left with is: did they evolve separately and merge, or did Japan reinterpret Varuna to create Suiten? IOW: Is Suiten equivalent or derivative of Varuna? That said: quick turn-around on the Snodgrass, Sarah! Impressive. Iṣṭa Devatā (talk) 22:10, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Adam's Bridge

Reference link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBpQiJt3MUQ Pre-Islamic history of the Middle East "you came up with a very good work and did Brilliant job." A very well researched with homework done history and historical!? video of Middle East.

What are the proportionate-chances, this kind of History was not there in India? You mistakenly forgot to include Aryan(s), Akkaads, Arkadians, etc!? were these Assyrians at historical times?

All India was very much reachable from land and water and air (spirits-souls-theological After-Life) birds except hinderance from Himalayas. it would be better if somebody come up with this kind of Realistic History of India. History of India 's ruined somehow by Arya(n)ism and Mythology!?

Who built the Adam's Bridge that linked South India- Sri lanka? refernce link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam%27s_Bridge

Brahmanic Followers or Abrahamic Followers or Civilians and Followers of More Ancient Socio-Religions'-Artiso-Politico-Policing-Traditional-Ritual-Cultural (sub) systems?

Who needed a bridge if it could be easily reachable by boats, dinghy (dongi), ships?

Where else this kind of Shoal-Coral-Rock-Bridge found built on across any-other river or sea or ocean!?

Was this 48 km bridge war-crafted OR peace times man made rock, shoal and coral depositing, rearing and kept up (upkeep) by Ancient Indians- Sri Lankans classes and groups?

Why did English-Europeans call Senior-Settlers of North-America as American-Indians?

-Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maneesh.kr (talk • contribs) 12:43, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

@Maneesh.kr: Who built it?

"...is a chain of limestone shoals, between Pamban Island, also known as Rameswaram Island, off the south-eastern coast of Tamil Nadu, India, and Mannar Island, off the north-western coast of Sri Lanka. Geological evidence suggests that this bridge is a former land connection between India and Sri Lanka."

So the builder, depending upon your theology, is either a deity of some description or is a natural geological process.

As for naming, well, they had to call them something, and they were looking for a route to the lands where spices are common. It is likely they believed that they had landed in India. How was India named? Fiddle Faddle 13:45, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

* This article Adam's Bridge must be deleted as it violates Hinduism beliefs. WP MANIKHANTA ^Talk 10:16, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Pramukh Swami

Hello,

There is a discussion going on the Pramukh Swami talk page regarding sexual abuse allegations. The issue originally reached consensus and it was agreed not to be incorporated into the article. Some people have become focused on removing this talk page discussion so some additional input from real Hinduism followers would help from this discussion board.

Thank you Swamiblue (talk) 03:57, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

NRGA Act 2012

This article was nominated for speedy deletion. However, it seems a notable topic from the searches I have done. Could anyone with more experience in this area assist in cleaning-up this article? AusLondonder (talk) 00:09, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Defunct WikiProject Hinduism/Shaktism

Can anyone point me to the discussions of why the group is labeled as defunct? Thank you. AD64 (talk) 15:23, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Threat to article named Hinduism by Wikipedia Administrators itself

This is a proposal/complaint to wikiproject Hinduism Administrators i here by arguing that the reference working as (Note2) in article Hinduism has endangered by selfish and anti Hindu Administrators such as Dougweller see his edits for proof. He unable to bear the greatness of Hinduism and removing references and contents from Hindu articles same alike Max Muller by deleting Vedas from History so kindly protect references of article Hinduism. WP MANIKHANTA ^Talk 11:18, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Kali

The Kali article could use some knowledgable eyes and editing. Technically it's a Good Article, but sources and writing have degraded sections of it to the point that it no longer meets the criteria. I've added several "Better source" tags, which have been removed by another editor, and now added back by myself. Kali is the only article this editor has ever edited, so they don't have a lot of experience — I've given them some links to learn more about sourcing. I won't be able to edit much for a couple of weeks, but perhaps some others would be interested in improving what is an important article. Regards, First Light (talk) 10:11, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Need a stub - Religion in the pre-colonial Philippines

I need a rating / classification scope , stub of WikiProject Hinduism, for the article Religion in the pre-colonial Philippines because it also covers the Hinduism as one of the primary religion of the Philippines during its early history, Thank you ! (JournalmanManila (talk) 02:12, 5 August 2016 (UTC))

Laldey and Lalleshwari

The articles Laldey and Lalleshwari have a long-standing merge proposal that should be resolved one way or the other. Are they describing the same person (perhaps through different traditions or due to regional variation)? Some views on the merge proposal would be appreciated at Talk:Lalleshwari#Merge proposal. Klbrain (talk) 22:44, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

GA Reassessment of Deogarh, Uttar Pradesh

Deogarh, Uttar Pradesh, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:03, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Names of Arjuna

Arjuna requires clarification: it says "twelve different names" but lists sixteen. See Talk:Arjuna § Twelve names? Sixteen?. -- Thnidu (talk) 18:45, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Savai Bhoj

Please develop the page.Xx236 (talk) 14:05, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Atibala

Hi. Can someone from the project look at the new article Atibala? I am unable to find sources on this topic so I question its notability but it's possible that references that don't use the latin script exist. Thanks in advance, Pichpich (talk) 17:21, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Om Parvat

See Om Parvat: Difference between revisions. It appears to me that it's gotten vandalism, isn't it?--Akiyama(tentative) (talk) 19:02, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages

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Missing topics list

My list of missing topics about Hinduism is updated - Skysmith (talk) 15:54, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Kleshas

These articles and their redirects need to be untangled: Kleshas (Hinduism), Kleshas, and Kleshas (Buddhism). Particular attention needs to be paid to Kleshas, which used to be a disambiguation page. Right now it says The Five Poisons are five perceived threats to the stability of the rule of the Communist Party of China., with nothing about the etymology and no mention of the other articles. It seems fine to me if it's an overview or summary article instead of a dab page, but it's incomplete as it is.

The redirects to these articles seem pretty random; sorting them out might be easy for someone knowledgeable in these areas. — Gorthian (talk) 19:24, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Baba Kaliveer

This article appears to be about a Hindu divinity. Could someone verify that it is and whether or not it is notable? I can't make heads or tails from searching and thought I would reach out here to help. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:21, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Does appear to be a legitimate worshiped deity. I removed a copyright violation, added one neutral but not very mainstream source, added cite tag and notability tag. Notability for WP article is questionable, probably should be given some time to be fixed before being deleted. First Light (talk) 03:00, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Devi Maheshwari

There is a new article Devi Maheshwari. I asked a question at Talk:Parvati#Devi Maheshwari - merge? about whether these articles should be merged. Your input would be greatly appreciated!–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:16, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata

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Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject

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Proposal to add some religious events to ITNR

There is currently a proposal to add some religious events at WP:ITNR. If adopted some or all of the listed events could be added to ITNR and be automatically posted to the main page conditional on the overall quality of the relevant articles. Interested editors are encouraged to join the discussion here. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:15, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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Please come and help...

I just relisted a requested page move on the Swaminarayan Temple, Ahmedabad article's talk page. Please come and add your opinion and rationale to help resolve this issue. Thank you very much! Paine Ellsworth ^put'r there 10:09, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Template Rename Discussion Hindu to Hindutva Politics

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New article proposed - "Weapons of power in Hindu epics"

Discussion of a proposed consolidated Weapons of power in Hindu epics article is at Talk:Kurukshetra War#New article proposed - "Weapons of power in Hindu epics". --Bejnar (talk) 14:45, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Swami Nithyananda

This article badly needs watchlisting, especially be people with some sense of which news sources in India are reliable and which are tabloid trash who print what they're paid to. The article has been veering between blatant attacks to claims of miracles and godhead, and is primarily edited by WP:SPAs who are either the subject followers or abject haters of him. The article is presently dominated by scandal, and while there's been non-scandal material posted it's not been sourced. See the talk page for a long list of still-unresolved disputes (I think the majority of the threads on the page are unresolved). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 23:45, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Rulership in Hinduism

The redirect Rulership in Hinduism, which currently targets the main Hinduism article has been nominated for deletion at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 September 12#Rulership in Hinduism}}. You are invited to contribute to the discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 17:04, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Requested move

There is a requested move at Talk:List of Hindu mythological or devotional films that may need your opinion. Please come and help. Paine Ellsworth, ed. ^put'r there 01:11, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Requested move

There is a requested move at Talk:Hindu that may need your opinion. Please come and help. Paine Ellsworth, ed. ^put'r there 15:29, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Sahaja Yoga

A lot of issues with this page going back years. I'd like more outsiders to look it over. Current discussion:

Talk:Sahaja_Yoga#Ad_and_MEDRS

Harizotoh9 (talk) 02:27, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

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Merger discussion for Karma Puja

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Criticism of hinduism

I request you to reestablish pages like criticism of Hinduism. Please help me make these pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashoka the idiot (talk • contribs) 16:58, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Ayyavazhi for deletion

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Spelling of Balakanda

In a recent edit to the page Balakanda, Nirvahna replaced most of the instances of "Balakanda" and "Bala Kanda" with "Baal Kaand", saying that the latter better represents the pronunciation. Could anyone help estabblish a standard transcription that could be used consistently throughout the article? (And the Devanagari, while we're at it?) Languorrises (talk) 17:16, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Discussion on reliability of sources in the School of Economic Science article

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Discussion at Talk:Voice of India#Neutrality and questionable ref page numbers

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Varadaraja V. Raman

Surprised notice of this nomination wasn’t posted here already. Perhaps because it is so hostile to Hinduism. Hyperbolick (talk) 04:45, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Individual reassessment of Pitru Paksha

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Working on article on Durga puja

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Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

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Are views of Dayananda Saraswati fringe?

Please comment on Talk:Swaminarayan_Sampraday#Request_for_comment.— Harshil ^{want to talk?} 15:03, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Earliest Hindu university was in Gandhara?

See Kashmir Smast. Doug Weller talk 15:01, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

The claim seems to be based on this[11] although there's no evidence whoever added it has read it. Doug Weller talk 15:04, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Or maybe they wrote it - it looks as though Professor M. Nasim Khan (talk · contribs) has been adding his research to a number of articles. Doug Weller talk 15:14, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Matha categories

Could someone have a quick review of the newly created Category:Shankaracharya maths in India and Category:Madhavacharya maths in India and categorise/rename as appropriate? It's a subject I know less than nothing about but I notice that the main article is matha and it seems to use the plural mathas. TIA Le Deluge (talk) 11:49, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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Missing article?

Nongthang Leima refers to the attributes of a goddess; but Attribute is a DAB page, and nothing on it relates to Attribute (Hinduism), which according to my limited understanding is a notable topic in its own right.

(I think I've seen similar DABfixing problems with the attributes of Hindu deities before. Lord knows where those links now point to, but the targets are likely to be Europe-based and unlikely to be in any way relevant.) Narky Blert (talk) 21:00, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Proposal for new WikiProject

I have made proposal at Wikipedia: WikiProject Council for a new WikiProject - WikiProject Mysticism. Since Hinduism has been viewed as a religion where mysticism is important, I wonder whether any one in this WikiProject group would be interested in joining me to help this WikiProject get launched? Vorbee (talk) 08:20, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit-warring at Hindu mythological wars

I've no idea what the best solution is. I'm not involved. Doug Weller talk 09:35, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

RfC on ecclesiastical titles

There is a proposal for a new subsection on ecclesiastical titles being conducted at MOS:BIO. Interested editors are encouraged to participate. It is a bit Christian-centric as currently written, so the opinions of those with knowledge of other religions is especially welcome. --Slugger O'Toole (talk) 02:12, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Women in Red Asian women contest

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AfD openend for Dhani Matang Dev

Hi there,

The article Dhani Matang Dev has been nominated for deletion due a lack of Reliable Sources (Google shows little about it, at least in English). Maybe the article is inside the scope of this project. You can join the discussion for comments. Alexcalamaro (talk) 05:08, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Ritu/Rutu Ritu (Indian season)

An anonymous editor changed the spelling, you should decide the article is called. Please also change the name on Wikidata. Best, Pyfisch (talk) 11:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Vedic vs. Puranic/Epic versions of myths

There is often significant differences between versions of myths in the Vedas and the later Puranas/epics. For example, in the Rigveda, Vasishta's parents are Varuna, Mitra, and Ushas. However in the Puranas, his father is Brahma. Basically I am saying that if someone is mentioned in both the Vedas and Puranas/Epics, the Vedic versions should be given roughly equal status in the articles and infoboxes, and should be place first as the Vedic versions chronologically came first. I think that Vedic myths should be given a similar amount of space on articles and infoboxes as Puranic/epic myths are, and have just as much value as Puranic/epic myths. In addition there is a distinction between history and myths among certain figures. Certain kings and sages found in the Vedas were likely to have been historical figures with parts of their lives documentented in the Vedas. However in later Puranas and epics, they merge into mythology as they are included as characters in various stories and genealogies that are known to not be historical (for example, say Parikshit or Vishwamitra). If a figure is mentioned in the Vedas as a historical figure (and can be referenced from a reliable source), their historical Vedic nature should be separated from their mythological Puranic character counterpart.Chariotrider555 (talk) 22:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Development needed for Ramayana related articles

Hello everyone, I have been editing articles related to the Mahabharata and try to add more citations, content and info.

What I have observed is that somehow articles related to Ramayana are not well developed. For example, Dashratha and Kaikeyi, despite being major characters, lack content and ref. Earlier there used to be content and info but no ref, so a user removed info instead of adding ref. There are many more such articles including Manthara, Shatrughan, Bharata (Ramayana), Kumbhakarna and Kaushalya, which are not well developed. I request everyone to see the situation and help. I think we should bring back content from the history of articles and add ref.

Regards, .👨🏻‍🎨 💠245CMR💠.•^👥📜 10:50, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Brahmin Gotras article

Hi there, I have added a significant amount of new information to the Brahmin Gotras article and have linked it to the Hinduism Wikiproject. I am kindly requesting a reassessment of my article. Thanking everyone in advanced. TheHumanEncyclopaedia (talk) 14:02, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Update to peer review page

Hi all, I've boldly updated your project's peer review page (Wikipedia:WikiProject Hinduism/Peer review) by updating the instructions and archiving old reviews.

The new instructions use Wikipedia's general peer review process (WP:PR) to list peer reviews. Your project's reviews are still able to be listed on your local page too.

The benefits of this change is that review requests will get seen by a wider audience and are likely to be attended to in a more timely way (many WikiProject peer reviews remain unanswered after years). The Wikipedia peer review process is also more maintained than most WikiProjects, and this may help save time for your active members.

I've done this boldly as it seems your peer review page is pretty inactive and I am working through around 90 such similar peer review pages. Please feel free to discuss below - please ping me ({{u|Tom (LT)}}) in your response.

Cheers and hope you are well, Tom (LT) (talk) 23:05, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

WP:GA

I remember seeing Hinduism as a featured article earlier. But the change was rapid, and I like many others knew no wind of it. I was quick to notice that it not been a Good Article. I request the members here to nominate it, as you have edited it.--Assassin77177 (talk) 13:48, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Devadasi

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Devadasi § RfC: Should article reference reports of sexual exploitation and prostitution in the modern day. Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 07:20, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Brihat Tantrasara

A new article has been translated from Bengali and could do with some attention from experienced editors. Better sourcing is needed but the article could do with some untangling as well. Thanks. Mccapra (talk) 08:06, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Nithyananda again

After a year or so of comparative calm, the BLP Nithyananda has been re-invaded both by haters and by devotees. This week, it's mostly followers clearly working in concert to whitewash, last week or so it was mostly detractors trying to dwell on allegations. This article needs more experienced, neutral editorial eyes and brains on it. The WP:SPA tides are not relenting. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 19:21, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

See also followup discussion at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#Nithyananda again. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 18:52, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Nila Devi

I just came across Nila Devi, apparently a Hindu goddess? I removed a blog and two forum refs, leaving it completely unsourced since 2014. I searched Google and Google Books and Google Scholar, and I checked four foreign language Wikis for refs, I can't find more than a passing mention. As best I can tell the article fails Notability? I know next to nothing about Hinduism, could someone take a look at this article? Alsee (talk) 00:32, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

If it doesn't pass WP:N, then you should definitely nominate it for deletion. Chariotrider555 (talk) 00:37, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Have you checked this * South Indian Sculptures: A Reappraisal by Pratapaditya Pal (Boston Museum Bulletin, Vol. 67, (1969))

Ramananda

Notice: There is a question about this person's proper title and therefore the page's proper title at Talk:Ramananda#Ramananda - Saint? Swami?. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:54, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Shree Geeta Bhawan

I made some improvements to Shree Geeta Bhawan, about my local temple; could somebody familiar with the terminology please check the article and its infobox, and check the list of services against its website (I don't know which are significant enough to warrant inclusion)? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Article on Jai Shri Ram

The article in its current format is not well researched. It should be brought under the purview of Wikiproject Hinduism, where editors can make better contributions. Shubhams123 (talk) 16:29, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

FAR for Vijayanagara Empire

I have nominated Vijayanagara Empire for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Izno (talk) 02:13, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Meenakshi – Minakshi

This topic appears to have various spellings, as well as other possible names. Your feedback would be appreciated at Talk:Meenakshi#Recent move. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 09:13, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Category:Hinduism/Shaivism articles needing expert attention has been nominated for discussion

Category:Hinduism/Shaivism articles needing expert attention has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Peaceray (talk) 20:19, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

New user changing multiple article titles to "Xyz Temple" contrary to MoS

A new user, Jaysonsands, has changed multiple articles on Hindu temples to Title Case so that the word "Temple" appears with a capital letter. This is contrary to the MoS, and to common practice. I've notified the user; given the policy on titles, wide consensus would be needed for such a change, which would probably require the MoS to be amended, i.e. it isn't going to happen. If people agree then a file mover should revert all the changes. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:55, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Proposed changes to Template:Yoga

I'm proposing extensive changes to the Yoga navbox and would appreciate the input of those interested in WikiProject Hinduism and the topic of yoga in Hinduism.

Please discuss the changes at this link; discussion elsewhere may be missed:

Template_talk:Yoga#Proposed_partial_reorganisation

Explanations for my proposed changes are listed at the discussion page linked above along with a draft which I will update as the discussion proceeds. Scyrme (talk) 21:23, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Pandavas' father

Hello, I wanted to discuss about the fathers of Pandavas (Yudhishthira, Bhima, Arjuna, Nakula and Sahadeva). In the infobox, Pandu is called the "father", while the gods who fathered the Pandavas are named as "spiritual fathers". Should we use "acknowledged/official father" for Pandu? .245CMR.•^👥📜 06:00, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

@Redtigerxyz, Panchalidraupadi, and Chariotrider555: What fo you think about this? .245CMR.•^👥📜 08:13, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

@245CMR: Pandu could be adoptive father. (Panchalidraupadi (talk) 10:12, 3 July 2021 (UTC))

As per ancient Hindu practice of niyoga, Pandu would be considered the father; not the gods, the biological fathers. Pandava is a patronymic. However in the modern parlance, the god is the father and Pandu is the adoptive father. The epics relate that Hanuman and Bhima being both sons of Vayu; thus brothers. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:32, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

User:245CMR, an adopted father is the official/acknowledged father, so adopted father would work for Pandu. I don't think spiritual father is a good description because it seems to sort of imply that the gods were their religious leaders, rather than their fathers. I would suggest using "Divine father" for the gods who fathered the Pandavas. Chariotrider555 (talk) 16:25, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

@Chariotrider555, Panchalidraupadi, and Redtigerxyz: Thank you for responses. Ok, I am changing "spiritual" to "divine". Looks like most of the figures in Hindu mythology are adopted. Eg. Rama (born because of the porridge, adopted by Dasharatha), Sita (born from Earth, adopted by Janaka), Draupadi (born from yajna, adopted by Drupada), etc. but all of them are regarded as their adoptive fathers' real children. May be Pandu should be left as "father" as per Redtigerxyz comment..245CMR.•^👥📜 16:38, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

"Para Brahman" or "Param Brahma"?

While reading the "Brahman" page, I came across the link to the "Para Brahman" page. I followed that link, and I noticed that on that page, the title is indeed "Para Brahman", but in the contents of the page, only "Param Brahma" is mentioned. Now, I am an almost complete nitwit as far as Hinduism is concerned, but I do know that "Brahma" and "Brahman" refer to different concepts and should not be confused. So what is going on here? Am I missing something? Or am I right, and should, consequently, the title of the page be changed to "Param Brahma" or should the contents, where necessary, be changed to "Para Brahman"?

Regards, Jaap.

Jaap.Verhage (talk) 12:36, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Both are correct, a word can have multiple meanings and sometimes, Brahman is used for Brahma. Other eg. Vishvakarma-Vishvakarman, Pusha-Pushan, etc. However, you can change Para Brahma into Para Brahman for uniformity..245CMR.•^👥📜 12:42, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Arti (Hinduism)#Requested move 7 September 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Arti (Hinduism)#Requested move 7 September 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 14:58, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sri Muthukumara Samy Temple, Vennandur

Input is needed at this AFD. All opinions welcome.4meter4 (talk) 02:54, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Cleanups in Hinduism Portal, re: Sanātana Dharma

I have replaced the usage of Sanātana Dharma term with Hinduism across various templates used by WP:HINDUISM. These changes were introduced by User:Naveen Ramanathan, without a discussion I could find anywhere. Please see Portal talk:Hinduism/Indices/Header for further discussion of why I thought this was necessary and additional detail.

Avindratalk 13:18, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Brihadbala

At Talk:Brihadbala, @Methu1 voiced the opinion that most of the content in the article appears to be a hoax. I don't know the topic well and can't speak to that. Could I have some people chime in at that talk page on the validity of the content in the article? Thanks Oiyarbepsy (talk) 00:56, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Proposal to cleanup and prune sidebar templates

Those involved with this project may want to give their input regarding my proposal to cleanup Hinduism-related sidebars, including the main sidebar; please reply there, as I may forget to check here:

Template talk:Hinduism#Proposal: Pruning redundancies, moving parts of this template to other templates, and possibly a new template

- Scyrme (talk) 17:51, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Prasāda#Requested move 11 December 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Prasāda#Requested move 11 December 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ^(♔ ^♕) 16:43, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Take a look my article

Hi brothers and sisters of WikiProject Hinduism, recently I wrote Draft: Khandoba mandir of Jejuri. Khandoba is one of the most popular deity of Maharashtra. I put lot of effort to create this article, I want you to review it and make it live, so fellow readers can read it, any suggestions and contribution will be welcome, Dhanyvad.Success think (talk) 14:55, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Help with an article

Hello everyone. This article's Hinduism section is sorely lacking. Any help would be appreciated! Religious views on masturbation

JewelsVerne (talk) 21:26, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

@JewelsVerne: Apparently the Hindu scriptures either don't mention it or don't oppose it. Of course, quite many gurus of modern Hinduism beg to disagree, but that is strictly belonging to the modern world, not a traditional dogma of Hinduism. Oh, yes... the monks. But the article is not speaking about monks, it speaks of rank-and-file Hindus. If one took a vow of chastity, they have a problem with masturbation. If they didn't, then they don't. And even for those who took such vow, it is just a minor transgression.

The WP:RS are these:

Ramanathan, Vijayasarathi; Weerakoon, Patricia (2012). "Sexuality in India: Ancient Beliefs, Present Day Problems, and Future Approaches to Management". In Graham, Cynthia A.; Hall, Kathryn (eds.). The Cultural Context of Sexual Pleasure and Problems: Psychotherapy with Diverse Clients. Online access with subscription: Proquest Ebook Central. Routledge. p. 177. ISBN 978-0-415-99845-1. Retrieved 21 January 2022.
Bullough, Vern L. (23 January 2003). "Masturbation". Journal of Psychology & Human Sexuality. 14 (2–3). Informa UK Limited: 17–33. doi:10.1300/j056v14n02_03. ISSN 0890-7064.
Cornog, Martha (2003). The Big Book of Masturbation: From Angst to Zeal. Down There Press. pp. 167, 181–183. ISBN 978-0-940208-29-2. Retrieved 21 January 2022.

Same as for the Christianity and the Bible: a condemnation of masturbation for laypeople just isn't there in the Hindu scriptures. tgeorgescu (talk) 05:01, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

@Tgeorgescu: Well, the article currently has three whole sentences on it. Intuitively, that seems like it's going to miss some context. I mean, the bible doesn't explicitly condemn masturbation, and yet we have numerous paragraphs covering the issue. Three sentences is pathetic, we need more, and people familiar with Hinduism would be the best to ask for help (I'm assuming you're not Hindu, from my previous interactions with you). Also, if any prominent modern gurus disagree, we should talk about that, as a religion is not made exclusively of it's holey text, but of the practitioners in it.

@JewelsVerne: There was a WP:RSN topic about Mantak Chia and masturbation, and the conclusion is that Taoism isn't science, and Mantak does not even represent Taoism, rather he represents New Age cults. tgeorgescu (talk) 22:15, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

@Tgeorgescu: We are talking about Hinduism, not Taoism. I'm here to ask the Hindu wiki project for help on the Hindu section, not the Taoist section. Come on man, it'd obviously be helpful for the Hinduism wiki project to help with the Hinduism section. Why are you following me around Wikipedia to argue about this, and making unrelated points? Do you still think I'm the vandal from the Philippines? I'm starting to wonder if you're harassing me.

@JewelsVerne: Above I wasn't accusing you of anything. About Mantak: he claims that he is a Taoist guru. Pretty much the same others pretend that they are Hindu gurus. But in fact they're New Age gurus. The Dhat syndrome might be a popular superstition, but it isn't religion. tgeorgescu (talk) 01:13, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

The reason Hinduism says nothing about masturbation might be that Hinduism thinks sex is pretty unimportant. The backstory is that in the time that Christianity was forming, the Roman world became extremely anti-sex (this actually pre-dated Christianity). Christianity, quite naturally, then became extremely anti-sex itself - by the 2nd century chastity was regarded as the ideal state, and by the 4th the Virgin Mary had been joined by the Virgin Joseph. Judaism managed to escape this, but Islam did not. Meanwhile, in Asia, sex continued to be just a part of life. Achar Sva (talk) 09:58, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Edit Request on Template_talk:Hindudharma

There is nothing more satisfying then seeing a backlog go to zero. Unfortunately, I have not been able to get the Semi-Protected Edit Requests below 1, as this ER has been sitting there unanswered. I am not an expert on these things and cannot claim to know enough about Hinduism to properly answer this edit request - can someone here who knows more answer, please? casualdejekyll 23:56, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Kailasa Candra Dasa

Hi all, there is a discussion about the notability of the Vaishnava author Kailasa Candra Dasa on that article's talk page. Someone added a notability tag, which a new user has objected to, whereas I think he'd probably fail a RfD to be honest. More views appreciated. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 10:57, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Please help publishing my article on Well known Hindu saint

Request for help in publishing my page on Juna Peethadheeshwar Swami Avdheshanand Giri, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Swami_Avdheshanand_Giri?action=edit it is being disputed on noatbility grounds. I have provided the article with lot of coverage indicating his notability. The sources provided are from top mainstream media. The article has been rejected and also declined by an a user blocked for sockpuppetry and also accused of vadalism. Shatbhisha6 (talk) 09:39, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Veerabhadra Temple, Pattiseema

There's unsourced text in Veerabhadra Temple, Pattiseema that could do with the attention of someone experienced in the area. I've done some cleanup already but i'm reluctant to axe the content in case any of it is salvageable, which i suspect some might be. Thanks, Zindor (talk) 13:22, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Found sources to back the story in the "History" section starting from the second paragraph but couldn't find any source for the first paragraph, and it sounds incorrect as well since I never heard anything like what is written in the first paragraph. I am removing the first paragraph as of now (anyone can re-add it with sources) and also adding sources to the rest of the "History." Lightbluerain (Talk💬 Contribs✏️) 16:31, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Actually, I could only find the sources for a part of the "History" section. Shall research a bit more once I find some time and, then, edit the page. Meanwhile, anyone else can also edit it as needed. Lightbluerain (Talk💬 Contribs✏️) 16:31, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Someone is wrong

Ramayana says "Ramayana is one of the two Itihasas of Hinduism, the other being the Mahābhārata."

Itihasa says "It includes the Mahabharata, the Puranas and the Ramayana."

If someone interested could "streamline" this, it would be good. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:52, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Itihasa indeed includes Puranas. I think, in Ramayana, it should be written as "one of the two important legends of Hinduism." Not doing it straightaway since it might not be the best description so I'll wait for two days to get others' opinions. If there is no counter-argument after two days, then I'll edit it as such. Lightbluerain (Talk💬 Contribs✏️) 10:50, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Done Lightbluerain (Talk💬 Contribs✏️) 18:17, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Hoysala Empire Featured article review

I have nominated Hoysala Empire for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:43, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Nila Devi#Requested move 12 August 2022

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Nila Devi#Requested move 12 August 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 15:30, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

yoga-template update suggestions - pls review - thx

I've provided a draft of possible updates to the Yoga template. Could you please check and comment on this - thx

Template talk:Yoga#template update suggestions - pls review - thx

Frank Samyamananda (talk) 12:46, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Mahiravana (Ramayana)#Requested move 14 September 2022

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mahiravana (Ramayana)#Requested move 14 September 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 13:35, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Vindhyavasini#Requested move 13 September 2022

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Vindhyavasini#Requested move 13 September 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 04:26, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Your feedback requested at Gautama Buddha move request

Hello. Your feedback would be appreciated at Talk:Gautama Buddha#Requested move 5 October 2022. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 11:19, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:The Buddha

The page which had been Gautama Buddha was unsuccessfully proposed for a change to Siddhartha Gautama, then successfully changed to The Buddha, and is now being proposed for a change to Buddha. Your input and expertise would be most welcome at: Talk:The_Buddha#Requested_move_25_November_2022 Best, Fowler&fowler «Talk» 00:41, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

GAR notice

Dwarka has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:38, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

GAR Notice

Madurai has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 03:10, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

GAR Notice

Puri has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:10, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Merging Hindola page w/ Jhulan Purnima page

Inviting users to join in discussion on Talk:Hindola about merging Hindola and Jhulan Purnima articles. Chilicave (talk) 18:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

NPOV problem at Kala pani (taboo)

I've just removed this passage, which was in Wikipedia's voice, from the article Kala pani (taboo):

The mleccha people were spawned by immoral reprobates and blasphemously held religious belief in nāstika, albeit in different forms. They are understood to have rejected the Vedas and have ceased to worship Bhagavan, the divine Vedic God, in favor of concocted false religions and irreligions with contemptible manners of reverence. Their societies are immoral and built on deceit, subjugation, and corruption. Therefore, it was thought that true Hindus should not come under their influence or embrace their beliefs, as they will be just as deserving of contempt as a mleccha.^{[citation needed]}

Among other problems, this seems a bit unverifiable, since it "mleccha" might reasonably be translated as "barbarian" (and the vast majority of non-Hindus are not ex-Hindus; this line parallels medieval Christian beliefs that early Muslims were all or mostly converts from Christianity, which they weren't). It was added in 2018 by an IPv6 IP editor[12] and tagged cn last August. I hope this means that this IP editor is long gone, but any eyes on the article and its conceptual neighbours would be welcome. HLHJ (talk) 01:47, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Sadhu#Redirect_Bairagi_(Ascetics)

Looking for informed editors. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:30, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

The Use of the Phrase of "Hindu Mythology"

While I understand that this project was created with good intentions, the phrase "Hindu Mythology" has erupted throughout all Wikipedia articles about Hinduism- or Hindu-related gods and can be interpreted as disrespectful. Hinduism is a religion, a way of life, and the 1 billion people who follow this way of life hold its "myths" in high regard. The phrase "Hindu mythology" has been incorrectly used synonymously with the religion for many years, which is understandable, but perhaps it is time to modify that. It is disturbing to simply dismiss the religion as "mythology" given that it is still practiced by a significant portion of the world's population (about 15%). Additionally, as a Hindu myself, I believe it to be quite disrespectful to both my existence and my beliefs, and I have no doubt that other Hindus will share this opinion. This religion, our way of life, is a reality for many, so please refrain from dismissing it as a myth. I humbly request that the use of mythology in this project should be corrected.

The definition of a myth: A traditional story, typically involving supernatural beings or forces, which embodies and provides an explanation, etiology, or justification for something such as the early history of a society, a religious belief or ritual, or a natural phenomenon. Well, this term does appear to be more respectful than most people are giving it credit for. However, note that the word "story" appears as the third word in this definition. This word carries a connotation that this "narrative" is fictional. Furthermore, for a long time in our society, the terms "story" and "myth" were mistakenly used interchangeably. The point I am trying to make is that there are more respectful terms out there to use in place of this derogatory term.

I believe the article (linked below) put it best...although the words myth or mythology itself do not mean fiction, they certainly imply it. Perhaps using the phrase "Hindu epics" or "Hinduism" itself is a start. https://bookriot.com/hindu-epics-are-they-myths/

Thank you for understanding and hope to see some changes! :) 104.230.12.92 (talk) 22:22, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

This is such a complex issue that we have an article about it at Religion and mythology; some of the later parts are the more interesting. The word "myth" within early Christianity was often derogatory, but to European academics, traditionally steeped in the Greek classical tradition and thus familiar with the classical usage, the word "myth" was positive. In my experience, Christian academics (including clergy) are generally quite enthusiastic about Christian mythology and see myth as an essential part of religion; the same people, in a non-religious context, may use "myth" to describe a popular false story (e.g. "The idea that COVID-19 is caused by the 5G cellphone network is a myth"). "Mythic" can be used to mean "non-existent" or "epic, impressive, great in scope".

The use of "myth" to describe the narrative elements of a religion, and distinguish them from, say, ritual and theology, is very handy, which is presumably why it's widely used in reliable academic sources. Referring to an entire religion as a "myth" is not in any way reasonable, and we shouldn't; we should call it a "religion" (or, as you suggest, name the specific religion). I think calling the entire religion a myth is what you are objecting to.

I also agree that there is a tendency of people (especially outside academic writing) to use the term "myth" to describe the narrative elements of religions other than their own, and not to use it to describe their own religions, and that such distinctions are non-neutral. Using "myth" non-neutrally or pejoratively for religious narratives that are fundamental elements of the religion is also highly problematic. Wikipedia editors, writing from academic sources for lay readers, are a bit stuck in between sociolect usages, and we might reasonably reach a consensus on how to use the word (but the place for that discussion is probably Wikipedia talk:Neutral point of view, not here). At the very least, we should try to use such terms consistently. We should not edit the word out of articles one one religion and insert it into articles on others.

"Story" is sometimes used for fiction: "It's just a story [it isn't a true story]". But "The journalist said 'I stand by my story!'" clearly uses it for a factually accurate statement. "A likely story!" implies both are possible. Depending on the context, "story" could be pejorative, but in religious contexts it usually isn't. "Narrative" is anything narrated or told, so it is very clearly neutral with respect to the accuracy of the content narrated. But "myth" is more specific than "story" or "narrative". If I told you about how I slipped and fell into a lake at a wedding, it would be a story, but not a myth, regardless of whether it actually happened or not or whether the wedding was a religious ceremony. At least, in my sociolect, and probably those of many editors... HLHJ (talk) 02:53, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Well said. As an example, see the linked discussions under "This page has previously been nominated to be moved. Before re-nominating, review the move requests listed below." at Talk:Genesis creation narrative (or at Talk:Association football, which has been called a religion 😉). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:34, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Hanuman chalisa text getting deleted from Hanuman Chalisa wiki page.

please go to this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanuman_Chalisa and see the History and you will find that people have started deleting the Hanuman chalisa text from this page, I tried adding it back but now its blocked from editing. Please help resorting it back to the way it was. Bajranbali (talk) 16:17, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Why are you trying to add the full text against the guidelines? Dāsānudāsa (talk) 11:28, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rainbow fish (mythology)

Looks like it's the longest lasting hoax on Wikipedia ever discovered. Merko (talk) 22:46, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Venkateshvara#Requested move 10 June 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Venkateshvara#Requested move 10 June 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 20:42, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Anti Hindu propaganda

There is a long discussion on the Ashvamedha page about the actual sources of the ridiculous claims about the ritual. The moderators are not changing their opinion even after showing so many proofs. Help needed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ashvamedha#Complaint Rajesh1112 (talk) 13:41, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

I don't see any "anti-Hindu propaganda". It seems you want the article censored because descriptions of the ritual (which is pre-what most people would consider "Hindu", anyway) offend your modern sentiments. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 17:55, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Why is Wikipedia full of Marxists ? I'm asking for the proof for the claims from original sources and so far all they have been able to provide or some books written by colonial and foreign authors with ZERO reference to the original sources for their claims. Most Indian authors' translations have no such nonsense and I have given several links to such books as well. So, when there is a dispute, Wikipedia policy itself says that we should refer to the original sources, but the moderators refuse to do that. They either obfuscate the discussion or point to some random blogs written by anti-Hindu Islamists. Rajesh1112 (talk) 06:56, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

BTW, the Wikipedia article on Quran does not mention anything about the controversial verses used by terrorists today. But Wikipedia is very particular about some rituals that have no proof of existence 4000 years ago. So much for being professional. Rajesh1112 (talk) 07:17, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

If you knew anything about my politics you'd know how ridiculous that sounds. You might also want to read WP:NPA. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 08:10, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

How is saying someone a Marxist a personal attack ? It's an ideology and their opinions are similar to many of the Indian Wikipedia moderators as far as I can see. Rajesh1112 (talk) 20:34, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Sharanga#Requested move 8 August 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Sharanga#Requested move 8 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —Usernamekiran_(AWB) (talk) 22:10, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Shakti, Mahadevi, Devi Pages

Hello and Namaskara all! I am writing about the Shakti, Mahadevi, and Devi pages. After looking through each of these pages, I feel there is a lot of shared content and content that could be added from one page onto another. I am wondering if it would be worthwhile to combine two or all three of these pages into one? Of course this will be a huge undertaking but I do feel it will add clarity to the subject matter and the current separation of these pages is a bit confusing/makes it difficult to find the relevant information. What do you all think? Pages for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakti https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahadevi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devi Hemmingweigh (talk) 08:26, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Darshan (Indian religions)#Requested move 11 October 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Darshan (Indian religions)#Requested move 11 October 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 15:20, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Parmatma Ek Sevak

Could someone from this WikiProject take a look at Parmatma Ek Sevak? It looks like it started out as a stub, but someone tried to expand it in good faith a few years back, but didn't add any sources in support. Someone else did subsequently add some references, but these were added to the "References" section heading and not inline. Anyway, most of the article now reads like someone's WP:OR and the article will probably need to be reverted back to a stub if that can't be remedied. In addition, to the lack of sourcing, there are also various syntax errors that need to be cleaned up. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:48, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Shambuka#Scholarly_take_on_"interpolation"

Request your comment on the article about a shudra ascetic said to be killed by Rama in the Uttara Kanda. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 14:04, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Hoysala Empire#Requested move 7 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Hoysala Empire#Requested move 7 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:25, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Saiva Siddhanta Temple#Requested move 8 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Saiva Siddhanta Temple#Requested move 8 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 20:40, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Nithyananda

One of the usual CoI "editors" who show up to promote this guru is peppering Talk:Nithyananda with demands for changes to the article, based on no sources or promotional sources or junk sources. However, they have made a claim that his (sourceable) confirmation as a mahamandaleshwar of Mahanirvani Akhara is very significant and belongs in the lead section. I don't know enough about the subject to be sure. "In 2019, nine foreigners were given the title mahamandaleshwar for the first time at the Kumbh Mela" isn't very encouraging, but for all I know the title means much more in the M.A. context. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:20, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Hinduism page definitions section

Hi, I was wondering if someone here could help me. I am not sure how to bring a resolution to a conversation on the Hinduism talk page about the definitions section. The two main issues at hand are that 1.) The "Hindu views" sub-header is redundant since the entire page would presumably have Hindu views weaved throughout, and 2.) That the "Hindu modernism" section does not contain any definitions of Hinduism and thus would be best situated in the history section. A lot of editors have provided productive solutions. I am happy to explain in more detail but hope that a quick and obvious solution is within reach, since this conversation has probably gone on for too long. Thanks in advance, Hemmingweigh (talk) 12:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

List of largest Hindu temples

List of largest Hindu temples is a mess - the cited sources do not allude to any ranking, and the page does not describe what criteria (built-up area, area of the premises?) determines the "largest". Does anyone want to attempt a cleanup? If not, blowing it up and starting over may be the next step. utcursch | talk 02:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi utcursch, I can help cleanup. Did you have something specific in mind? Thanks, Hemmingweigh (talk) 10:37, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Draft:64 Forms of Lord Shiva

There is a new draft at Articles for Creation, Draft:64 Forms of Lord Shiva. Is this suitable for mainspace? I'd love some thoughts from this project. Newystats (talk) 00:30, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Prithu

Prithu has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:31, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Questionable ip edits

An ip editor has made several edits to pages related to this project. The edit summaries don’t seem to match the changes made, but I can’t tell if the changes are constructive or not; they might be POV-pushing but I don’t know enough to tell. Could someone have a look? Thanks! YBG (talk) 11:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Classical theism

What was a poor article[13] is now an odd article[14] mainly about Hinduism. Some decent sources although I don't know if they are being used properly, some not so good sources such as letter from an ISKCON leader.[15]. I'm not familiar with the subject so hope others can look at at. Doug Weller talk 08:54, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Not sure on this one. May be Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy would be in better position to judge Redtigerxyz ^Talk 15:53, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

yes it seems a very odd article now - while the title is Classical theism (as a general topic), Hinduism-specific details overflow over the article. Also some section titles are confusing - e.g. should Traditions and Representations be separate sections? But, philosophical content related to Hinduism seems to be fairly accurate, though it could use some copyediting. Asteramellus (talk) 22:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

@Redtigerxyz Thanks, I posted there also. No response yet, but this is a mess. Not just this article, a new category Category:Classical theism being filled rapidly and not always correctly. I'm always suspicious when someone is put into a category not reflected in their article. Also see these recent edits [16]. Doug Weller talk 08:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

How to join this wikiproject??@Doug Weller Vedsharma08213 (talk) 15:40, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

@Vedsharma08213 When you say your old account got terminated, what did you mean? Doug Weller talk 16:02, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Kratu

Some recent IP-edits, I have no idea if they're reasonable or not. If someone who does feels like taking a look, please do. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Iṣṭa-devatā (Hinduism)#Requested move 25 May 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Iṣṭa-devatā (Hinduism)#Requested move 25 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 00:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Sadh Vaishnavism#Requested move 14 June 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Sadh Vaishnavism#Requested move 14 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:51, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:2024 Uttar Pradesh stampede#Requested move 4 July 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Uttar Pradesh stampede#Requested move 4 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath^talk 08:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Shakti pitha#Requested move 5 July 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Shakti pitha#Requested move 5 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 19:39, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Asking for help with Thriyacharya article

Greetings, Thriyacharya is in need of at least one reliable source Reference, and possibly to de-orphan. Rather than PROD, I'm hoping to find help here, as this topic is completely outside my knowledge. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 15:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Returns exactly zero results on Google Books, so I'm leaning towards deletion. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 16:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Pakistan National Congress#Requested move 29 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pakistan National Congress#Requested move 29 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 17:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC)