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I want to be sure I accepted article correctly

Hello! It's been a while here, please help check my AFC work, I want to be sure I accepted Ervin Theodore Blix correctly without any redirection. Tesleemah (talk) 04:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tesleemah The technical process worked. I have no idea what you mean by without any redirection because the process does, did, and should leave a redirect.

I am finding notability hard to find. Please enlighten me? 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:19, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thank you, I want to be sure I did. What notability are you referring to? Tesleemah (talk) 09:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The notability of the subject of the draft, now accepted article. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:34, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tesleemah Indeed, that has been flagged already by Theroadislong. I suggest that any notability has not been verified, and returning to draft kindly is appropriate. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tesleemah As kindly as I am able I have returned this to draft.

I believe you have made an honest error, something we all do. I have no quarrel with that at all. I have made a substantial number of honest errors. I may even be in error in returning this to draft. The trick is to become ever better in what we do.

I am wholly grateful for your asking me for my thoughts.

I had a look at your AFC review records. You can do that, too, by looking at the AFC participants page, finding your user id and clicking "reviews". I agree with all except two. Another editor has corrected the second. That is absolutely fine and as it should be. I am not criticising your work, I am simply providing a small course correction. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright thank you, it will get better with time. Tesleemah (talk) 10:06, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 18:08:43, 6 November 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by RedamancyBlues

RedamancyBlues (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Umer Aalam (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi! I wanted to address the article that's been rejected twice. I understand what you're saying regarding the references and it was a concern for me at first too, but I checked out more than 10 pages of similar actors and noticed a lot of the same resources. Here are a few for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aruba_Mirza https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheheryar_Munawar_Siddiqui https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Faizan_Sheikh

I'd love to make amends to the article and its resources as per your advice so it can be approved. Appreciate your time!

RedamancyBlues (talk) 18:08, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RedamancyBlues please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I will look at the articles you have pointed out. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:11, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RedamancyBlues I have looked at all three, as you can too. The first I have sent to WP:AFD, the second I have flagged for issues, and the third has mostly suitable references, though can use some reference improvement, whcih I have flagged.

You can do this too. Please do. We need poor articles to be flagged for improvement. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. The references included in these articles are from some of the biggest entities in Pakistan that cover entertainment news and provide updates. Most interviews are in video format instead of being published in magazines, so most of the references for any Pakistani celebrity will include most of these sources. If there's a way to navigate this issue that can still align to Wikipedia rules, I'd be happy to learn so that other articles can be amended accordingly as well, but I'd like to highlight this as it could simply be a difference in cultural norms. RedamancyBlues (talk) 18:41, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RedamancyBlues There are also local language editions of Wikipedia to work with. The English Language Wikipedia is the strictest for inclusion criteria. The fact at present is that we require references which pass WP:42. That is a consensus that you can try to change by building a new one. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:44, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, thanks! RedamancyBlues (talk) 19:03, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gerard Gertoux at WP:CLEAN

Hey, @Timtrent. Most requests on WP:CLEAN that receive input are relatively simple tasks, such as table formatting or bare url cleanup. More complex tasks like general cleanups, let alone cleanups needing expertise, are sadly neglected very often. Which is why I believe it is very unlikely anyone on this project would be able to help with the requested article. I skimmed through Gerard Gertoux and its talk page and saw that there was consensus that the article itself has an WP:UNDUE issue. If that's the case, I think you should just go WP:BOLD and make edits on wherever necessary or propose a revamp on a RfC. -- 00101984hjw (talk) 01:45, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@00101984hjw Good point well made. I'll leave it a short while and give it a kick. Sounds like you agree that it is a shame, and also have hopes that the project would enjoy getting the drains up. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:59, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@00101984hjw I used big, crude, sharp editing scissors. I'll note this at the project. I think some help may still be required, please. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]