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Page moves of Italian Open

I don't think your page moves are going to fly. It's one thing to move categories to the same title, but you can't just move something like "2014 Internazionali BNL d'Italia" to "2014 Italian Open (tennis)." All tennis articles are done this way... thousands upon thousands of them. We use a non-sponsored generic name for the entire event because in any given year the event name could be different. But for that particular year the name will not change. This move goes against long-standing consensus for all tennis tournaments and it will require much debate to change that. Please move the tournaments back to the way they were so someone else doesn't have to. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:04, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not to cherry pick source and policy (such as Wikipedia:Article titles (point Consistency ) and Wikipedia:COMMONAME). The common name of the individual season was still Italian Open in secondary source.[1][2][3] It seem something to have to sortout inside Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennis for not applies wikipedia-wide policy. Matthew_hk tc 04:12, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Adding citation done in sample article 2017 Italian Open (tennis) for the name, but the rest of the content the article was still unsourced. May be i would bring the case to Wikipedia:Village pump to fix all the tennis season article title to in lieu with their main article and common name in the reliable secondary source (e.g. BBC, The Guardian) Matthew_hk tc 04:38, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
update. so far citing the name was done for 2010 to 2017 seasons. All use Italian Open. Despite mostly are BBC articles and some are Associated Press, it should have room to improve. Matthew_hk tc 05:33, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/939573/Miami-Open-2018-final-Alexander-Sascha-Zverev-John-Isner
  2. ^ "Andy Murray admits to 'not playing good tennis' after Italian Open exit". The Guardian. 17 May 2017. Retrieved 20 April 2018.
  3. ^ http://www.ibtimes.com/roger-federer-hints-french-open-participation-swiss-ace-backed-win-2664960
I'm not saying I completely disagree with you, especially for the Italian Open. But take the Indian Wells Open/Masters. It is very common to call it by it's sponsored name the BNP Paribas Open. Which is true with many tennis tournaments such as the Miami Open which was commonly called the Sony Ericsson Open. What we've tried to do is go with the official English name in any yearly article, and the non-sponsored common name for articles that deal with the tournament in general. It has worked pretty well and kept arguments down, and I don't see any real need to change things. To be honest I'd probably lean more your way for many tennis events, but I'm not going to rock the boat unless a tennis-wide RfC takes place that changes long-standing consensus. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:12, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
For other case i would certainly check the common name first, some tournament such as BMW International Open was known for its sponsor name, but not in case in Italian Open (tennis), which the "controversial" of the move was may be more favoured to Rome Masters or Italian Open as common name. Matthew_hk tc 09:17, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well the BMW International Open is a golf event so you'd have to check with the golf project for their stuff. The Italian Open is far more common in English history than the Rome Masters. Actually, per English usage, it would have probably been better to call the seasonal events the BNL Italian Open rather than Internazionali BNL d'Italia, which is pretty much never used in English. But I just follow long-standing common practice. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:37, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

not sure is my bias on my google search result (which was personalized out of my control), the earlier edition (2000s) of the tennis tournament was refer as Rome Masters and sometimes stalemate between Italian Open and Rome Masters in 2010s.

The editions that were refer as both Italian Open and Rome Masters depends on which media, i stick to use Italian Open (tennis), as per Wikipedia:Article titles and Wikipedia:COMMONAME and the main article which was located in Italian Open (tennis).

And lastly the practice in tennis that using rare unfamiliar sponsor name should be corrected. Matthew_hk tc 09:48, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

But then for 40 years it was called the Italian Tennis Championship. And sort of a balance on yearly events. What you call "rare unfamiliar sponsor name" others chime in and say "official sourced tournament name." There is also a bit of a problem with the word "Masters." Those Masters 1000 events began in 1990, but only for the men! That's an ATP term and they give 1000 points to the winner. The ladies WTA tour has no Masters events. The WTA Italian Open is Premier 5 event and gives 900 points to the winner. So while the event has always been the Italian Championships and since the late 70s the Italian Open, it's official name has changed through the years. Even it's common name has varied a little bit with your mentioning the Rome Masters (for the men) in the late 90s and 2000s. This stewiness of names is very common at tennis events, where even their locations change. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:16, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The secondary source refer the female event as Rome Masters, despite it seem incorrect. Matthew_hk tc 05:11, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I did check

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I did try to check with an editor and i created the temporal range thing so i can edit it i just had mistaken because i found a source that said it was earlier. The editor did not leave a response i would have changed it after he/she gave me a reply. Matthew hk how about we arrange a plan instead about how i check with you instead because i do not like the sandbox that much. Thank you:Bubblesorg (Sorry if this is a little weird.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesorg (talk • contribs) 02:11, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is way too many issue that you had be told in your talk page. I don't even know which one you are talking about. Matthew_hk tc 04:51, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I NEVER SAID IT WAS A TASMANIN DEVIL

All i did is change the Tempral range i did not say it was a tassie devil. I did not do it i swear someone else did it probaly because i saw the tassie devil thing when i last edited it anyways so i did not do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesorg (talk • contribs) 14:28, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bubblesorg: You did - look at this edit. You may not have noticed that you did, but that's also not good. You need to pay attention to the result of each edit, because it all goes life immediately to all of the internet. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:36, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bubblesorg (talk) 14:40, 2 May 2018 (UTC)I never did that I was in school when that edit happend. Bubblesorg (talk) 14:51, 2 May 2018 (UTC)Elmidae and Matthew i never did that I could have been hacked since i have had the problem with m first wikipidea Account so I have out some upgrades to my account however i did not make that CHange i am fully aware of what i do on this sight because i came here to make relible articles.[reply]

Copywrite

I am thinking of deleting one of my images due to it containing copyrighted Materiel. Even though i created it i did include an image that i the beginning (Due to its quality) was in the public domain.

ALSO I DID NOT PUT THE TASSIE DEVIL EDIT BECAUSE I WAS IN SCHOOL IN THE ENGINEERING CLASS. (Lets put that case behind now). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesorg (talk • contribs) 15:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Bubblesorg:. Logout in the public please. It may simply explained that Bxtchin (talk · contribs · WHOIS) is your schoolmate (or your alter ego). Either don't use public computer to edit, or create an alternative account, tag that alternative account was legit alternative account {{User alternative account name}} as well as a statement to say that alternative account was meant for public computer only. Matthew_hk tc 09:00, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Truth

This is the person who put the tassie devil thing (dont just acussing people like that) (cur | prev) 19:13, 27 April 2018‎ Bxtchin (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (21,408 bytes) (+40)‎ . . (changes) (undo | thank) (Tags: Mobile edit, Mobile web edit) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesorg (talk • contribs)

Thanks

I am the only person who edits wikipida and i use a school private computer and my own home computer. I anyway got an answer the vandalism was done by someone else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesorg (talk • contribs) 14:40, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Comments on undoing of my edit on Rainbow six seige.

I am going to say a couple of things. First, some of that information i changed was initially wrong, for example: Silent Step doesnt give caveira the ability to interrogate and the article on white noise implies vigil is always invisible to cameras when its an activated ability with limited duration. I would like it if you rechecked my edit on that. Second, i would like some advice. How detailed is too detailed? I both want to be thorough but as you stated not too detailed. Hario Dinio (talk) 21:45, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Hario Dinio: Please read the edit summary "overdetailed and probably not stated in the original citation." Please find a right PC Gamer (or other game magazine) to quote or paraphrase a very short description about the player character Caveira. I personally played the game, but please use material that can be verified by reliable secondary source. It just serious edit problem if you just change the word which was cited, making the citation no long relevant to the wikipedia text. Matthew_hk tc 07:11, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For the season 2008-2009 Lazio don't have any sponsors, but only occasional sponsors. For this motive the Groupama sponsor must be deleted from the main page of SS Lazio. Piolinista65 22:03, 07 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Siemens Mobile, not Siemens. Piolinista65 22:03, 07 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Need some help on my page

Need help configuring my page and publishing. Also I need my page to be published. Also there is an advertisement on one of my pages that is not wanted. I would like it removed the advertisement was "flatr." The advertisement makes it look like it was my picture or something. Can you help me out with this please.



Sincerely, King Theron Preston Washington I — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theron Preston Washington (talk • contribs) 05:55, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Commune by the Great Wall

sorry for the wrong ping.Quek157 (talk) 12:10, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Your draft article, Draft:List of member of Federcasse

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Campionato Primavera 1

Hi. Do you think a separate article for Campionato Primavera 1 is really necessary? They changed their name, but it seems unnecessary to create a whole new page. The Italian wiki only has one page was well. It seems like the same situation when Serie C1 was changed to Lega Pro Prima Divisione, only the name was changed. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 23:09, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Then how to deal with Campionato Primavera 2? There were Serie C, Serie C1, Serie C2 articles? More precisely, the whole format changed as the new league consist half of the team and only one group instead of 3, despite having the same organizer. Matthew_hk tc 05:40, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oh so it's like the Serie C splitting into Serie C1 and Serie C2, in that Campionato Nazionale Primavera split into Campionato Primavera 1 and Campionato Primavera 2? So there was never any relegation before in the youth tournament? If that's the case then the separation seems find to me. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 14:11, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think the Primavera 1 titles and Nazionale Primavera will be equivalent like they made the Serie C1 titles and Serie C titles equivalent? Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 15:10, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure about it. Matthew_hk tc 15:18, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Vaselineeeeeeee:, Lega Serie A listed Inter won 9 times. http://www.legaseriea.it/it/primavera-tim/albo-d-oro Matthew_hk tc 21:38, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
So should Nazionale Primavera be updated then too? They are considering this title equal to the previous titles. If they ever bring the Nazionale Primavera back like they did with Serie C, then they should definitely be included. I'm still not so sure if we need separate articles right now, it might be too early to tell. But they're considering the titles equal, like a continuation, so yeah, I'm thinking we might not need a new article right now. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 21:51, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you join the discusion on what we need to do about richard sutt if you have the time please. If not its ok. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesorg (talk • contribs) 03:34 6 June 2018 (UTC)

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