User talk:Deepfriedokra/archive 2022
Administrators' newsletter – January 2022
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2021).
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2022
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2022).
- The Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines have been published for consideration. Voting to ratify this guideline is planned to take place 7 March to 21 March. Comments can be made on the talk page.
- The user group
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in around 3 weeks. This will not affect the name shown to users and is simply a change in the technical name of the user group. The change is being made for technical reasons. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections. - The Reply Tool feature, which is a part of Discussion Tools, will be opt-out for everyone logged in or logged out starting 7 February 2022. Editors wishing to comment on this can do so in the relevant Village Pump discussion.
- The user group
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- The Arbitration Committee has published a generalised comment regarding successful appeals of sanctions that it can review (such as checkuser blocks).
- A motion related to the Antisemitism in Poland case was passed following a declined case request.
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User:Deepfriedokra2
[edit]So there's a User:Deepfriedokra2. I've been thinking about changing my username to User:Lichenous rock, and the need to avoid confusion makes sense to me. Thoughts and feedback invited, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:26, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- But what if someone makes a Lichenous rock 2? Moneytrees🏝️Talk/CCI guide 22:33, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Moneytrees: I think Lichenous rock is cooler. Which is less uncool? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:39, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Lichenous rock isn't that bad or anything, Deepfriedokra is just an S-tier username easy. There's not much beating it. Moneytrees🏝️Talk/CCI guide 23:32, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Well, then. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:36, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Lichenous rock isn't that bad or anything, Deepfriedokra is just an S-tier username easy. There's not much beating it. Moneytrees🏝️Talk/CCI guide 23:32, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Moneytrees: I think Lichenous rock is cooler. Which is less uncool? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:39, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- I think User:Licentious rock is inappropriate. Oh, wait... --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:41, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- I do my best. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:49, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Uhhhh... Is a block warranted? Scorpions13256 (talk) 00:45, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Which is the Real deepfriedokra, I want the one who has been here for What 16yrs. ;) Realme233 (talk) 01:00, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
GHA Page
[edit]Hi there
You recently deleted a page that didn't meet Wikipedia's requirements. I was hoping to address your concerns and build on the page that I had already written. It says that I can reach out to you to recover the deleted page?
Please let me know if you can assist.
Warm regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpecialKCereal8 (talk • contribs) 18:44, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- @SpecialKCereal8: I'm sorry, but that was wholly promotional content mostly if not entirely sourced to the subject. It needs to be completely rewritten from scratch with information cited to reliable sources unconnected with the subject. Please see the deletion notice on your talk page for further guidance. The new user tutorial can help you avoid future problems. You can also ask for help at the TEAHOUSE and on IRC chat. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:53, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Deleted Artice
[edit]Hi,
You deleted an article galaxy heroes (cryptocurrency) because it was promotional. Well, it was actually highly promotional but I want to rewrite it. Don't know if you could restore it so that I can work on it then submit it as a draft for review.
Regards Mastetchi (talk) 22:12, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Mastetchi: (@GorillaWarfare: for her thoughts.) I'm sorry, but Galaxy Heroes (Cryptocurrency) was wholly promotional content. (WP:G11]]) It needs to be completely rewritten from scratch with information cited to reliable sources unconnected with the subject. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:24, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Thanks :@Deepfriedokra:
Mastetchi (talk) 22:46, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi @Deepfriedokra:
Just to inform you that article has been rewritten and draft submitted Regards
Mastetchi (talk) 12:49, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Mastetchi: Great. We'll see what the reviewers think. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:51, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Since you seem to be on top of things
[edit]There's a user (User:TanweerBashir) who has been evading a declined article creation. I can't continue adding the template without running up against 3RR, but the page is here: Draft:TanweerBashir. Thanks for all the hard work you're doing! Photonsoup (talk) 23:47, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Photonsoup: Reverting vandalism isn't 3rr. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:50, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, wasn't 100% sure about that specific application but didn't want to engage in an edit war in any case. Photonsoup (talk) 23:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Photonsoup: That page does not meet WP:G11. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:53, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- It's not my addition, it's another users and was deleted by the person who created the page, I just rolled it back with a note that I wasn't the person who added the template originally. I should have checked that myself, though. Photonsoup (talk) 23:56, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Photonsoup: That page does not meet WP:G11. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:53, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, wasn't 100% sure about that specific application but didn't want to engage in an edit war in any case. Photonsoup (talk) 23:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Anthony Bradbury deleted though 'cause there were too many already. I blocked for 31 hours. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:58, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Some falafel for you!
[edit]Thank you for helping me dealing with those troublesome IP and new users! UNITE TOGETHER, STRIVE FOR SURVIVAL! 09:51, 8 February 2022 (UTC) |
You may wish to revoke TPA.--Cahk (talk) 09:27, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Indeed, I have done that. Cheers. Lectonar (talk) 10:19, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Sikri Kalan
[edit](redacter)
First of all, I want to apologize to all of you if I said something wrong to you.
So the thing that is arising is that you are redirecting Sikri Kalan Page to Sikri Khurd Page. So this is Wrong because Sikri Kalan and Sikri Khurd both are different villages in Modinagar.
So what happened earlier? Somebody made a page of Sikri Khurd and put the details in it, but after that, he did not make a page of Sikri Kalan and he redirected the page of Sikri Kalan to Sikri Khurd. And for your kind information, I have already told you that both Sikri Kalan and Sikri Khurd are different villages.
Some people believe that I am editing it or changing it for my selfishness. But all that is wrong because I live in Sikri Kalan and I can't read anything wrong about my village.
In the last, I would just like to say that you should first do research on Sikri Kalan and Sikri Khurd and then take some decision so that I am satisfied and all the public who are seeing it should also be satisfied.
Thanks Regards, (redacted)
by 4444ABHISHEK (talk • contribs) 13:51, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- {{yo:4444ABHISHEK}} gah! Please do not place personally identifying information on Wikipedia. To protect your privacy, I have removed it.
- Now the apology is good, but I'm not someone you insulted. As to whether the article should be or not be as you left it is not of interest me. I just hope you can go forward with out being rude to people, and that you learn how to resolve disagreements with other editors. You need to discuss all of this, omitting personal information, on the talk page. ICYMI, I did not redirect the page, I've no interest in it. Best --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:02, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Hmm? There were already two admins having a cage fight right there. It looks like you may have meant to post at Dominic Fike? Bishonen | tålk 20:35, 12 February 2022 (UTC).
- @Bishonen: Yup. Dodgy edit button sometimes drops me in the wrong section. Page fight? Tickets? popcorn? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:39, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- [Bishonen fastidiously fixes the ping template and considers herself pinged.] Merde! Bishonen | tålk 20:50, 12 February 2022 (UTC).
A cookie for you! (Thank you!)
[edit]Deepfriedokra,
Thank you for the information about creating pages. I will review the community guidelines prior to submitting future articles. RickyEaton (talk) 21:50, 14 February 2022 (UTC) |
Queensland Wood Reference Collection copyvio deletion
[edit]Although Queensland Wood Reference Collection copies alot from https://www.chiefscientist.qld.gov.au/science-in-queensland/scientific-collections/wood-reference, that page could be licensed under CC-BY, per https://www.chiefscientist.qld.gov.au/legals/copyright. Techie3 (talk) 03:19, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Techie3: Unfortunately, there was material the copyvios report reported from a copyrighted source. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:21, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Just a question, which copyrighted source? https://www.chiefscientist.qld.gov.au/science-in-queensland/scientific-collections/wood-reference is maybe under the CC-BY 4.0 license, which is allowed on Wikipedia. Techie3 (talk) 03:24, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- I restored the page click here. There's a copyright notice at the bottom. Really, you think I don't know about CC-BY 4.0 ? That's not what it says. But if that's a given . . . .. Please. Take a look. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:26, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- I prefer this to be settled by AFD, as there is a some chance that page is free licensed. Also the copyvio page has: This article contains an attribution template:
{{CC-notice}}
. Please verify that any potential copyvios are not from properly attributed sources. Techie3 (talk) 03:32, 16 February 2022 (UTC)- It says at the bottom, "© The State of Queensland (Office of the Queensland Chief Scientist) 2004–2022". . . . .
- Just a question, which copyrighted source? https://www.chiefscientist.qld.gov.au/science-in-queensland/scientific-collections/wood-reference is maybe under the CC-BY 4.0 license, which is allowed on Wikipedia. Techie3 (talk) 03:24, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
@Techie3: What do you think? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:33, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, did not see your reply. I've restored. An uninvolved editor has questioned, so it is not CSDable. I'll detag and notify the taqgger. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:34, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Deepfriedokra And https://www.chiefscientist.qld.gov.au/legals/copyright say that the whole site, except some images is CC-BY 4.0. Techie3 (talk) 03:35, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Weird. Thanks. Good catch. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:41, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.
- AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
- The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.
Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
I indeffed the user for promotion about 3 minutes before you added that notice to her Talk page. Did you want to leave the notice in place anyway?--Bbb23 (talk) 18:46, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: Never hurts to educate. And by some miracle, maybe one they she'll transform into a constructive editor. If so, I'll light a candle to St. Jude. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:41, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- No problem, just wanted to make sure you were aware of the block.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:07, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Your Feedback and Help
[edit]Hi Deepfriedokra,
You recently commented on my draft article Meal Train. Thanks for your help. {{redacted inappropriate content)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mealtrain (talk • contribs)
@Mealtrain: You are welcome. I have removed the (promotional) article content from my talk. My talk page is not the place to disclose you WP:PAID status. You need to do that on your user page and on any article you create/edit. Do not under any circumstance add article content to my talk page. Please follow the instructions for renaming on your talk page. Please read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:27, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
Thanks @Deepfriedokra. I appreciate the assistance and have updated my profile to reflect my status. Again, thanks for the help and direction. Always open to learning how I can be a better contributor. MealMike2009 (talk) 00:57, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello, It is usual for deceased individuals to put a younger picture of them
I wanted to replace the main picture of Lata Mangeshkar with the one The Economist used for its obituary. It's from the 1942 film Pahili Mangaala-gaur Here's the name of the file "Lata Mangeshkar (Black and White Picture).jpg"
I also tried to move the "childhood picture" down a bit so that it does not conflict with the vertical table on the right.
The edits are not being saved because of the anti-vandalism block
Can you help, please?
Regards Varoon2542 (talk) 17:10, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Varoon2542: You will need to discuss this and make an edit request on the article talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:14, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Deepfriedokra: I did but there was barely any reaction Varoon2542 (talk) 04:44, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Varoon2542: Did you make an WP:EDITREQUEST on the talk page? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:24, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
[edit]The No Spam Barnstar | |
Thanks for all you do! Philipnelson99 (talk) 02:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC) |
Thanks for the username fix!
[edit]I did not expect it to happen that quickly. That only took minutes. I am relieved and can't believe I made a silly mistake like that. I didn't catch it only until spelling it right on a talk page and noticing it was coming up red instead of blue. - NosferatuTheVampyre (talk) - 21 February 2022, at 03:45. — Preceding undated comment added 03:46, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I did not know you had already had a conversation. I only checked the contribs before. Not that it matters much, now. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 17:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Usedtobecool: no worries. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:39, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
2nd coming of Jesus, future Predictions, personal attack in comment?
[edit]If someone removes anonymously a new entry of the only prediction of the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ that is explained in 2 entire books and I say that person was lead by an evil spirit, you are telling me I attacked someone?? Who? An IP? Then you lock the page to prevent the addition of that entry again. In what spirit do you lock the page to make it impossible to add the biggest prediction about the 2nd coming of Christ in the next 6 years. Is that light or darkness that tries to hide something like that? Hiding is always darkness. Eyes that cannot see and ears that cannot hear are useless. LetTruthBeFound (talk) 12:31, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- @LetTruthBeFound: Looks like you are here to preach. Not to build the encyclopedia. I'll pray for you. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:35, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
What did Jesus come for? And what did he tell us? To build an encyclopedia that blocks information about his 2nd coming on a page named predictions of the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ? You might want to pray for yourself. I am not the one hiding information from being entered in an so called encyclopedia but you and your buddies. LetTruthBeFound (talk) 12:42, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- "All content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." The link you added was merely to the website promoting this prediction/prophecy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not the place for editors to espouse there personal beliefs. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:56, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Regarding unblock of decent user
[edit]I've heard that SHISHIR DUA has been blocked over certain reasons. He has been completing ever single project with sheer performance on each. I understand for this reason (but trying to be anonymous citing that I've over 12000 edits with my account) I can say you without him certain projects are pending that I was collaborating with him and I thereby appeal you to unblock him. I assure no issue will persist in future even we will make Wikipedia enhanced with our knowledge. Hoping for a favor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.83.69.32 (talk) 16:36, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Assuming you are not Shishir, you really need to login to edit. This does not deal with the reaosns for their block-- Special:permalink/983187059#Over exhaustive and indecent behaviour and HERE. - SHISHIR DUA needs to read and understand the WP:GAB and request unblocking on their talk page, addressing the concerns about their editing. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:49, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Non-admin declining bot report
[edit]Hey! So I recently saw a user who isn't an admin decline a bot report as a FP at WP:UAA. Are non-admins allowed to do that or is it something that should generally be left to only admins: ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:35, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Blaze Wolf: Well, that's intriguing. What user? What botname? Dif? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:40, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- User is Lettherebedarklight, username the bot reported was TheRazzleDazzler (because it managed to match azz on the blacklist), here's the dif ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:47, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Blaze Wolf: I'm not sure non admins should make/can make that decision, but it looks like a false report. If it becomes a pattern, it should be discussed with the user. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:51, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Alright that's what I thought. I knew that was sort of the decision at WP:AIV so I figured it would be same here. Usually I'll only make comments on bot reports if it's a non-latin username (it'll just be me translating it to save admins time in determining if it's a username vio) but I won't do any declining of reports. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:55, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Blaze Wolf: I'm not sure non admins should make/can make that decision, but it looks like a false report. If it becomes a pattern, it should be discussed with the user. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:51, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- User is Lettherebedarklight, username the bot reported was TheRazzleDazzler (because it managed to match azz on the blacklist), here's the dif ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:47, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
It is a pattern. I messaged them after you did. "dunno. I'm new here" not being a confidence instilling reply. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:58, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
You vandalized! ADMIN ABUSE YOU SHOULD GET BANNED!
[edit]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1073417873 169.241.60.28 (talk) 18:26, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- I protected against vandalism. There is a difference. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:44, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Response broke header
[edit]Hey! For whatever reason, when you responded to the report about "Suka", you somehow added a duplicate stale response before the "User-reported" header at WP:UAA. I've gone ahead and fixed it for you, but I figured I'd let you know. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:23, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. That was weired. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:05, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- I agree. I looked at the page and I was like, "Wait where did the user reported header go?" and I checked the history and saw that something broke it. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:06, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
for blocking me
[edit]why you have blocked me I don't no know anyone who I have said to edit or help for publishing this article. who is n95rohit I don't know who is it please remove my block from my account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navin731 (talk • contribs) 14:05, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Navin731: If you agree to no longer remove the AfD template, I will be glad to unblock you. I had not noticed n95rohit. Interesting that you are both editing Skilling You. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
for blocking me
[edit]can you please tell me why have you blocked me? I was editing my article now i can't do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navin731 (talk • contribs) 14:13, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
For unblocking me
[edit]I promise and assure you to no longer remove the AfD template, if i will do it you can block me or remove or do whatever is in the policy and rules of Wikipedia. I assure you that it will not happen again and can you please help me with the article to publish it in the main article area without any restriction tags on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navin731 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
The Signpost: 27 February 2022
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I have been blocked
[edit]Hello,
I tried to edit the Wikipedia page for Drusillas Park (I work here), as there was some incorrect information on the page. However, I have never used Wikipedia before as a contributor as was not aware that I could not do this from the point of view of the business. Apologies, I didn't realise this would be seen as not objective, I was just trying to correct the information. We would really like to just remove the part in the top blurb saying we have a Hello Kitty themed attraction, as this has now been removed from the Park, and as our contract has ended we can't be seen to be promoting its inclusion at the Park. Would someone please be able to remove this from the top intro about Drusillas Park? It's of course fine to be later on in the history, but there are also some incorrect facts there too:
- It was closed on 27th December 2021. (In the article it states '23th Dec' and also say 2020). - PLEASE REMOVE: "and is home to the first Hello Kitty-themed attraction in Europe."
Many thanks for your help, and apologies for the accidental violation.
Best wishes
Tamara Nasser Deputy Marketing Manager Drusillas Park — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrusillasZooPark (talk • contribs) 14:46, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
@DrusillasZooPark: Please make an WP:EDITREQUEST on Talk:Drusillas Zoo Park. Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:06, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Deleted Article
[edit]Hello, you recently deleted my article on Jordan Brooks be cause it was unambiguous advertising, I would like to be able to edit the article I believe its because I provided a link to his to his website in which he does promo/advertisements for movies and other forms of media, which I admit was an error on my part. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Placebo118 (talk • contribs) 04:37, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Placebo118: Please read the information I linked in the deletion notice very carefully. It will help you avoid promotional writing and inadequate sourcing. It must be completely rewritten using only information from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:52, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Deleted Page
[edit]Hi @Deepfriedokra, I recently created a page for my company, that has been deleted due to not following guidelines. I'd like to re-wite it and re-submit.
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adnanaziz342111 (talk • contribs) 09:14, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Adnanaziz342111: Please read the information I linked in the deletion notice very carefully. It will help you avoid promotional writing and inadequate sourcing. It must be completely rewritten using only information from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:53, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Deleted Page
[edit]Can I edit or re-write the article or I just have to create a new one? If yes, how can I access the previous article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adnanaziz342111 (talk • contribs) 14:31, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
@Adnanaziz342111: Please rewrite completely using content sourced and cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." The subject's web site and social media are not sufficient. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:08, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Possible sock
[edit]Hi, could you please take a look at Oveelive (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), appears to be a sock of Eliveove (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) that you blocked 2 days ago. Thanks! MT TrainTalk 07:48, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Blocked and scolded. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:59, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Emperor Harsha
[edit]Hi, You have locked this page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harsha Since there seems to be vandalism concerning the religion of Harsha. I had provided enough citations to back up my claim, that Harsha was a Shavite, but he later converted to Buddhism. And For citation no. 25, S. R. Goyal (aka Sita Ram Goel) is a hindutva historian and not taken in academia seriously. Please correct that, and prevent further vandalism from Hindutva historians and their IT cells. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.100.190.158 (talk) 18:05, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Fantastic! Please discuss content and sourcing. On the talk page. You can make WP:EDITREQEST's there. On the talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:07, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
I already had that made a long ago. Section 12 on talk was made by me only. Still it keeps getting vandalised. Can you undo the changes in Bio section and remove the text with citation no. 25. I have checked what he had cited. That article itself cites a book which is written by Shri Ram Goyal about whom no information is available. Please revert the changes and lock the article for protection from further vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.100.190.158 (talk) 18:26, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- I certainly do not involve myself in content disputes. I suggest you discuss the merits of your desired change on the talk page, using an EDITREQUEST. Or get consensus for it on the talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:31, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Yum!
[edit]Deep fried okra, delicious![Joke]
InterstateFive (talk) - just another roadgeek 20:22, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
IP user 64.22.115.162 block
[edit]Thanks, it was getting tiresome reverting nonsense and vandalism from the IP user.Wzrd1 (talk)
This user's talk page access should be removed. This user has said on their talk page that Cullen328's 'behaviour is terrifying and unsettling' and that they 'highly doubt how he got ten years of experience'. It is obviously a personal attack, only in Chinese. Johnnyconnorabc (talk)
- LOL. OK. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:41, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Johnnyconnorabc: Can't see it. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:43, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, there it is. I let it go once as venting. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:45, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
UTRS / Cypriot Chauvinist
[edit]I don't go to UTRS very often; how does this work? I gather that the comment I left isn't automatically visible to the person who opened the ticket? Or is it? In any case, the tool certainly gets the wikt:angry fruit salad award :-) -- RoySmith (talk) 18:35, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: No, they shouldn't be able to see our notes. It is no longer being supported by the mediawiki support people, and the knowledge to restore/improve functionality is lacking. Annnd, at this point, I would be willing to see it replaced by something operating on META. As long as they were not globally locked, they could log in like anywhere else. No more Skiyomi (hi skiyomi, I know you love me) sending in spoofed requests trying to get other users banned. It would no longer be UTRS, I guess, but it should work better. Thanks for updating that ticket. Sadly, that's the best he's ever done. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:56, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- The frustrating thing about this case is that they seem to write pretty good articles, and having a comprehensive series on the military history of Cyprus would be an asset for the encyclopedia. I've seen this scenario before. Somebody gets into a battle over something and isn't able to work it out so they end up getting blocked. And then they just keep painting themselves deeper into a corner with socks and pretty soon we lose sight of the good content they produce and can only see the block evasion. I don't have a good answer for that, but it is sad. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:04, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. I would be willing to unblock at this point, but I cannot. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:05, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- The frustrating thing about this case is that they seem to write pretty good articles, and having a comprehensive series on the military history of Cyprus would be an asset for the encyclopedia. I've seen this scenario before. Somebody gets into a battle over something and isn't able to work it out so they end up getting blocked. And then they just keep painting themselves deeper into a corner with socks and pretty soon we lose sight of the good content they produce and can only see the block evasion. I don't have a good answer for that, but it is sad. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:04, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Punjab Election
[edit]Hi Deepfriedokra, Did you notice about your revert that the editor making it is actively disrupting wikipedia articles to artificially add his edit counts [1]. Is this allowed? Venkat TL (talk) 20:33, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Venkat TL: Yes, thanks. We are watching to see what he does next. My revert was a sort of warning. I think he's just testing before doing something we'll really hate. 181 user page edits? today? really?20:45, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ok. The 208 edits of indiscriminate adding and removing wikilinks was a bigger disruption. The page history of multiple pages has been totally spammed. I really dont know what kind of warning to give for this. I was wondering what was wrong with him until he edited the Wikipedia:User access levels. Venkat TL (talk) 20:53, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- His extended confirmed status was removed. I think two other admins are already watching him. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:14, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Probably opening a discussion on his talk with a non templated message. An exchange of views. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:17, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- With those actions it is resolved. Admin also explained him on User_talk:Primefac#removal_of_EC_template. So no need for me to post anymore over this. Yes, I could have opened a discussion on his talk page, but I was not sure if it is against Wikipedia rules. It sure appeared against rules but I had not read any rule that said it was illegal. Adding wikilinks is not really an offence. 208 edits to do that probably looked like one. As the admin noted WP:GAMING, now I know the rule that was violated. Venkat TL (talk) 12:33, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
I call BS!
[edit]"The Arbs are smarter than I". Not so. You have an opinion. I have a one-fifteenth share of an opinion. The maths is simple Cabayi (talk) 15:27, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Per User:TheTimesAreAChanging at WP:ANI:
the bottom line is that User:Comrade-yutyo has added unsupported or erroneous information to four separate articles ([2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]), reinstated it once ([11]) at Military dictatorship of Chile (1973–1990) and four separate times at Totalitarianism ([12], [13], [14], [15])—including three reverts on March 5 alone—and overridden this file four separate times on Commons since January, all while impugning other users as bad faith disciples of Friedrich Hayek and questioning the credibility of reliable sources under capitalism. Yet this thread has been dominated by discussion of whether Dronebogus erred by merely linking to a talk page (as opposed to providing specific diffs) and by unilaterally removing Comrade-yutyo's duplicative ANI report (rather than allowing an uninvolved administrator to handle it), with the general tenor being that Comrade-yutyo's actions are more forgivable than Dronebogus's due to the former's inexperience (although Comrade-yutyo has been editing Wikipedia for nearly two years).
The reason I’ve brought this directly to an admin is because the admin at the thread ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#user:Comrade-yutyo_edit_warring,_WP:POV,,_WP:GREATWRONGS,_WP:OR,_incivility ) is too busy disputing technicalities (as mentioned above) to discuss the actual problem
Dronebogus (talk) 15:46, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus:Yeah, I'm not likely to step on someone else's toes by boldly acting on an ANI thread I have not participated in. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:57, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for responding anyway. Dronebogus (talk) 16:59, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, @El C:! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:46, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for responding anyway. Dronebogus (talk) 16:59, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Please help me to resolve the issue.
[edit]Please help me to resolve the issue.
You left a message on my page, please help to involve the user in the dispute (I myself did not figure out how to create a dispute).
In September 2021, a Russian researcher published details about a bug with the self-destruct feature that allowed the user to recover deleted photos from their own device. The bug was patched prior to publication and Telegram representatives offered a €1,000 bug bounty. The researcher did not sign the NDA that came with the offer and did not receive the award, opting to disclose the bug
This paragraph contradicts the original source and misleads users (I assume that interested people are working on this Telegram support). Check the edits, the same user constantly changes the edits against the original source, as Telegram benefits. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Telegram_(software)&action=history
I tried to figure out on my own how the dispute works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard but could not create anything (I don't understand how to start the mechanism).
I really ask for your help (just check the materials). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zanuda petro (talk • contribs) 09:41, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Zanuda petro: I don't embroil myself in content disputes. I find them distasteful. First discuss the matter on the article talk page. As ASpacemanFalls has repeatedly asked you to do. You can ask for a third opinion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Software OR Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing OR Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Apps if talk page discussion is fruitless. And stop using edit summaries and comments like, "A Telegram representative introduces deliberately false information by rolling back edits." Please see WP:OUTING and WP:AGF. I see no basis for leveling this accusation other than you don't like their edits. Do you have some connection to the Snoopproject? I saw where you wrote "Тестовая страница для проверки Snoop" on your user page. If so, you have a conflict of interest in adding that link. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- You asked to ping you if the vandalism persists and, as you can tell by Zanuda petro's latest diffs, it has. Sorry to bother you, just thought perhaps there's a chance of ending this, since the user seems unwilling to have any sort of discussion at all. ASpacemanFalls (talk) 16:51, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- @ASpacemanFalls: I don't think it's vandalism. Just a content dispute. However, if you look at his user page, there is some connection to the source he's citing. I partial blocked him from the article. Please now discuss content and sourcing and follow the dispute resolution steps. You might want to take him to WP:ANI for the aspersions. I assume you are not a shill for the company as he alleges, and even if you are, he's heading into WP:OUTING. If he's right, you just need to read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID. The deciding factor for me to block him (and not you for edit warring) was the COI link on top of the aspersions. Also, ASACT, this is the stable status quo ante --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:31, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, I assumed that adding disputed content over and over with a dubious source constituted vandalism but I think you're right. I'm not connected to any companies whose pages I edit but I recognise I probably invested too much of my time into this, my desire to be right be damned. I'll see what should be done if the behaviour continues, though I suspect my time is better spent helping get some other pages in order. Sorry for taking up your time. ASpacemanFalls (talk) 17:38, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- @ASpacemanFalls: I don't think it's vandalism. Just a content dispute. However, if you look at his user page, there is some connection to the source he's citing. I partial blocked him from the article. Please now discuss content and sourcing and follow the dispute resolution steps. You might want to take him to WP:ANI for the aspersions. I assume you are not a shill for the company as he alleges, and even if you are, he's heading into WP:OUTING. If he's right, you just need to read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID. The deciding factor for me to block him (and not you for edit warring) was the COI link on top of the aspersions. Also, ASACT, this is the stable status quo ante --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:31, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- You asked to ping you if the vandalism persists and, as you can tell by Zanuda petro's latest diffs, it has. Sorry to bother you, just thought perhaps there's a chance of ending this, since the user seems unwilling to have any sort of discussion at all. ASpacemanFalls (talk) 16:51, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
No problem, and I did warn and educate Zanuda . This going to WP:AN for review as I blocked one party to a content dispute and not the other. --Deepfriedokra (talk)
Revoke TPA
[edit]Hey could you revoke the TPA of the ip 159.242.68.46? They clearly aren't using their talk page access for anything useful. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:38, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Done. with pleasure. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:43, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
An editor is misrepresenting data and information
[edit]ear Deepfriedokra,
An editor is misrepresenting data and information from source. See change Log
Here is the EFN and citation added by editor efn|According to the Jammu and Kashmir Police, 89 Hindus were killed by militants between 1990 and 2021, while 1,724 citation |title=In 3 decades,
EFN : 89 Hindus were killed by militants between 1990 and 2021, while 1,724 people of other faiths (mainly Muslims) were killed during the same period
Source reads [1]: 89 Kashmiri Pandits, 1,635 people of other faiths were also killed during the same period.
- Misrepresentation 1 : 89 Hindus (EFN) Vs 89 Kashmiri Pandits(Source)
- Notes assume there was no Hindu apart from Kashmiri Pandits.
- Misrepresentation 2 : 1,635 people of other faiths (EFN) vs 1,724 people of other faiths (Source)
- Notes changes numbers.
- Misrepresentation 3 : EFN says (mainly Muslims)
- (Nowhere in source it says mainly Muslims). Also here, other faiths may include christen, Sikhs, Non Pundit Hindu, etc.
- Not just that he used this EFN to write Kashmiri Muslims were also killed during the insurgency (in greater numbers in fact)
I request you kind attention on this, the editor in subject has done similar thing in past and I have requested/questioned in the talk page.
Dsnb07 (talk) 23:57, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Dsnb07 (talk) 01:37, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Dsnb07: Please consider discussing content and sourcing on the article talk page. Thanks. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 05:57, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
User:PashaTarsius
[edit]Hello! I think you should have banned him, but ok a warning is a warning. Could you please hide his edits on my userpage? Thank you in advance. --Sigwald (talk) 12:59, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Sigwald: Aside from his anger at you, he's had no problems. Once I'm back up again, I'll tell him to stay away from you, partial block him, and revdel his personal attacks. I hate spill over from other Wiki's, so let me know if he persists in making his problems ENWIKI's problems. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:33, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
User:Furry roleplayer
[edit]Hi, since you banned them, I just wanted to note that this user might possibly be this one. I can't check for IP though, it's just a guess based on this edit and since the user seems to be interested in Gob (band) as well. Cheers! Seelentau (talk) 20:52, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Seelentau: You might want to report your info at WP:SPI or WP:ANI --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:30, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
4 RR
[edit]Hello this new editor [[16]] made several unsourced edits and reverts in less then 24 hours on this page [[17]], they were reverted by several editors including myself but I don′t think they will stop. Can something be done, thank you. Theonewithreason (talk) 00:08, 17.March 2022 (UTC)
- @Theonewithreason: They'd not received an edit warring notice. I gave it to them and told them they are over their limit. Will block progressively if they continue disruption. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:34, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. Theonewithreason (talk) 00:36, 17.March 2022 (UTC)
- You bet. I prefer to educate, but if persuasion does not work. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:37, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. Theonewithreason (talk) 00:36, 17.March 2022 (UTC)
In need of an admin
[edit]Hello. I have an urgent case I have opened an ANI involving a POV-pusher who acts in a WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT manner. I cannot find an admin to take care of the case and it has been a three days already. Could you have a look at my complaint? Thanks in advance. Veverve (talk) 10:01, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Gah
[edit]House internet down using my phone I hate this will be back when I have an internet again --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:28, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
My internet is whole again! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:15, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi, just letting you know that you've locked in a version that incorporates major new changes from FobTown on Feb 21 to the intro. The stable version had been written by myself and multiple other editors up until Feb 9, during which FobTown did not contribute or discuss anything. The Feb 9 version retains all the citations before they were moved to the body if that's what you're concerned about. Thanks. CurryCity (talk) 07:06, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- @CurryCity: I was concerned with the edit warring. Will restore status quo ante' --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:26, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- No. Not done. Please discuss your competing versions on the article talk page. Please use dispute resolution to resolve your dispute. I feel like you are using me to restore your preferred version, and I cannot take sides. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:35, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Every time FobTown comes up with some ridiculous change, I or some other editor ended up doing all the work opening up Talk sections for their newest idea. This has become insanity. I'm not doing all the work improving articles, trying to accommodate editors that no longer should be given credit of the doubt, and still be doubted. Good luck. CurryCity (talk) 07:55, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- I can appreciate that. Maybe it's time to get a partial block for them at WP:ANI. I'm really asleep. Will try to look when I'm awake. It makes no sense to fully protect a page if one editor is causing disruption. All I saw was you two editwarring, hence the full protection. FobTown! Helloooooo @FobTown:! Please join this discussion! Sorry. I'm gonna drink some water and go back to sleep. @CurryCity: Yeah, you might want to take them to WP:ANI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:00, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, good night for now. CurryCity (talk) 08:10, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- @CurryCity: Is this content covered by the RfC on the talk? What other WP:DISPUTERESOLUTION has been tried? Looks like you were reverted at one point by @Fyunck(click): Mote in God's Eye? and at another by @Horse Eye's Back:. @FobTown: --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:30, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- FobTown wanted to rm the whole paragraph from intro on Feb 21. I made a short version. Horse didn't seem to like it. I gave up and restored the Feb 9 version before FobTown's changes. Fyunck actually restored mine, but FobTown again reverted that restoraton. You can rv to RfC version if you really don't want to appear to be taking a side. CurryCity (talk) 20:58, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- @CurryCity: Is this content covered by the RfC on the talk? What other WP:DISPUTERESOLUTION has been tried? Looks like you were reverted at one point by @Fyunck(click): Mote in God's Eye? and at another by @Horse Eye's Back:. @FobTown: --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:30, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, good night for now. CurryCity (talk) 08:10, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- I can appreciate that. Maybe it's time to get a partial block for them at WP:ANI. I'm really asleep. Will try to look when I'm awake. It makes no sense to fully protect a page if one editor is causing disruption. All I saw was you two editwarring, hence the full protection. FobTown! Helloooooo @FobTown:! Please join this discussion! Sorry. I'm gonna drink some water and go back to sleep. @CurryCity: Yeah, you might want to take them to WP:ANI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:00, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Every time FobTown comes up with some ridiculous change, I or some other editor ended up doing all the work opening up Talk sections for their newest idea. This has become insanity. I'm not doing all the work improving articles, trying to accommodate editors that no longer should be given credit of the doubt, and still be doubted. Good luck. CurryCity (talk) 07:55, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
@CurryCity: my criticism of your changes in the lead of Peng Shuai are as follows:
- You removed "Information about her story was censored by the Chinese government."
- This is more reflective of how foreign news sources viewed the state-owned media: "She showed up in state media two weeks later for appearances that observers believed to have been staged in response to foreign inquiries."
- This sentence sums up Peng Shuai's numerous denials: "E-mails and interview publications have depicted her denying that she made the accusation of sexually assault." On the other hand, you highlighted two interviews without mentioning widespread skepticism of them being staged/controlled. FobTown (talk) 18:43, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- I told you already that sentence was caught up with citations. Here's where I corrected it. Here is you reverting after/despite the fix. Here is Floydian reverting your rv and restoring mine.
- This is still coming up? We had a BRD, which I opened for you even though you were the one injecting changes, and left as-is with this version (yours) all the way back on Dec 29. But after almost 2 months, you want to change it again?
- For the 5th time or something, I'm not the one making these changes or highlighting anything. The paragraph was mostly written by PRRfan. And again, the Feb 9 version, my rv [18], Fyunck's rv [19], and Flyodian's rv [20] already explicitly include the words "staged" and "managed", so you're basically making up a strawman and throwing false statements around. These are distractions that do not explain why, even AGF improvement, you must remove an entire para from intro that had been there for ~2 weeks and change old wording that had been there for ~2 months after BRD. CurryCity (talk) 20:58, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
@CurryCity and FobTown: Y'all should document your dispute at Talk:Peng Shuai (You could just carry this over there.) Then request a third opinion. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:56, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- At this point, I'm not confident dispute resolution would address the fundamental problem, but it's difficult to fully describe what it is. Other editors have had issues with FobTown as well, especially regarding Peng Shuai, but most of us just want to move on quickly if possible every time it crops up. This might not be edit warring or vandalism, but more like a slow-burning edit skirmish or perhaps a CIR issue. It has also followed me to other articles. Here's another Talk I opened for them (deja vu). Here's FobTown copying intro for Peng Shuai, not realizing that it has to be supported by the original article's body and citations there. In the process, they even reverted my edit about Li Qi, so again, I find it difficult to AGF when they rv everything, almost never integrate changes in a way that conserves or minimally disrupts previous edits, and are reluctant to put time into discussion. CurryCity (talk) 21:22, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Block evasion by SamridhTmrk
[edit]SamridhTmrk (talk · contribs) is likely evading their block as Tamrakar Samridh; there is an open SPI regarding this. Keeping you informed as you were discussing their terms of unblock. Regards -- Ab207 (talk) 07:42, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Ab207:Gah. Lovely. I'll let the SPI sort it. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:48, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Rangeblock, maybe?
[edit]You recently blocked 2A04:4A43:539F:E4B8:B0C1:70DE:DEBE:B7EA (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) for repeatedly adding unsourced content. They've been back doing the same on 2A04:4A43:53AF:D963:D1D9:2CA9:DBCD:72E3 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and 2A04:4A43:53AF:D917:352E:3CF3:9244:9660 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). – 2.O.Boxing 09:04, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
A LOT of vandalism and POV pushing in Azov Battalion
[edit]i suspect that there may be even sockpuppetry going on in the page since a long time ago, so i ask for you to please investigate a bit into this so we can at least stop some of the vandalism going on in it and related pages, thanks in advance.
also, if you do open a SPI or any type of investigation, ping me here, i have some good proof and suspects to contribute to the investigation. EpicWikiLad (talk) 14:26, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- @EpicWikiLad: It would be best if you file the SPI as you are familiar with the evidence.
- --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:35, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- ok then, ill try.EpicWikiLad (talk) 18:55, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Some of the existing content is citing biased pro-Russian deleted inflammatory sites without any original sources. How can this be amended? Kyrylkov (talk) 06:59, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
User talk:British friend345 more to be done
[edit]talk page access, maybe?
I have reported to emergency@ by email FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 16:37, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Timtrent: done. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:40, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- I hope the editor is trolling, but one never knows. Hateful messages to receive anyway, whatever there truth of it
- Thanks for running with this one FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 16:42, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hell of a way to respond to a content dispute. Best. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:42, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
ANI Notice
[edit]There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. CurryCity (talk) 08:00, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Tolerance
[edit]Hi, Fritter. You're very tolerant. Are you sure you don't want to block this guy? Bishonen | tålk 13:28, 23 March 2022 (UTC).
@Bishonen: Nyah-- it's a possibility. Certainly their edits merit a block under my zero tolerance for spam. However, I could just load them with a full set of templates until they stop or until they get blocked. Don't wanna bite the misguided newbie who just needs education. Inside every spammer is a constructive editor trying to get out. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:06, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Really. I've never seen that happen. Is it a bit like ectoplasm? Bishonen | tålk 16:17, 23 March 2022 (UTC).
- It's like a chrysalis-- the ugly spamworm turns into a beautiful, beautiful wikibutterfly. Nah. me neither. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:20, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Good Lord! Is that Meat Loaf? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:23, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- It's like a chrysalis-- the ugly spamworm turns into a beautiful, beautiful wikibutterfly. Nah. me neither. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:20, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Self-revert?
[edit]Hi, I recently reverted the last edit of HariRavikumar whom you partially blocked recently. Their content removals appeared to be trolling. The user did not leave an edit summary and has a history of edit warring without any explanation.[21][22]. Should I self-revert for 3RR? Thanks - SUN EYE 1 18:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Suneye1: That feels incredibly negative WP:BLP. Ima say get rid of it. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:10, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, never edit war on the side of negative BLP. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:10, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
We meet the nicest people
[edit]I think I found an error in your standard note:
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia-- subjects must meet notability guidelines with reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and providing verifiable information. That generally means someone unconnected with the subject needs to have written a great deal about the subject. Please see this page on citing sources. This page has templates you can use in citing your sources. Place the template {{references}} at the bottom of the page, and references cited in the text will appear there. New article creation can be difficult, but the Article Wizard can help you. The new user tutorial can help you avoid future problems. You can also ask for help at the TEAHOUSE and on IRC chat
I think you mean {{Reflist}} instead of {{references}} 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 10:47, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- EEEWWWw. Out dated! Thanks. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:50, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
A pie for you!
[edit]Thanks. ChuchoVCJMuzik (talk) 21:22, 25 March 2022 (UTC) |
Realme233/Questions for deepfriedokra/ Will You, or will you direct me to someone
[edit]Who can/or will help me in Reverting theses changes that were made the last I believe three days that I was away.someone else has made to these pages Realme233 (talk) 00:57, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Realme233: It would be helpful to know what changes on what page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:00, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
This Is the culprit, they need to be reprimanded from Wikipedia and Wikipedia
[edit]https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/XTools Realme233 (talk) 01:42, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not seeing it. Write clearly and plainly who is the "culprit." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:45, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Question
[edit]Hi, the day before yesterday you full-protected the article Scheherazade (yacht). It was basically working; editors were discussing potential content on the tp and an admin was more than willing to review edit requests. Today, however, the protection came off, and almost immediately an new, somewhat SPA dumped in a paragraph of speculation, with questionable sourcing, that adds no encyclopaedic value to the page regarding the boat, with no discussion, not even a summary. This is content that had alreaey been addressed.
This is the kind of disruption that I am hoping to prevent. I believe that the ownership will be confirmed one way or another, and following that, we will learn from RS something more relevant and worthwhile to add to the article. If the page can't continue to be full-protected, then what about semi/extended? (For a period of more than 36 or 48 hours.) Thank you for your attention. - wolf 06:08, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
[edit]Two years! |
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:52, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Concerning Arz (rapper)
[edit]Looking at the neutrality and information provided in the (Arz) article, I strongly think the article needs to be incubated in draft space.
- The information provided is really short.
- References/sources are poorly constructed.
Your opinion please. Neo the Twin (talk) 18:27, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Neo the Twin:, I don't think those are criteria for draftification. Stubs are more likely to improved in article space. There is nothing wrong with the tone. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:57, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- What @Technohead1980: said. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:01, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Help Releatted to my page
[edit]Why my page is getting deleted again and again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amarjeetkumarcompaniespride1 (talk • contribs) 20:59, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Amarjeetkumarcompaniespride1: Looks like it was spam --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:17, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
The Signpost: 27 March 2022
[edit]- From the Signpost team: How The Signpost is documenting the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine
- News and notes: Of safety and anonymity
- Eyewitness Wikimedian, Kharkiv, Ukraine: Countering Russian aggression with a camera
- Eyewitness Wikimedian, Vinnytsia, Ukraine: War diary
- Eyewitness Wikimedian, Western Ukraine: Working with Wikipedia helps
- Disinformation report: The oligarchs' socks
- In the media: Ukraine, Russia, and even some other stuff
- Wikimedian perspective: My heroes from Russia, Ukraine & beyond
- Discussion report: Athletes are less notable now
- Technology report: 2022 Wikimedia Hackathon
- Arbitration report: Skeptics given heavenly judgement, whirlwind of Discord drama begins to spin for tropical cyclone editors
- Traffic report: War, what is it good for?
- Deletion report: Ukraine, werewolves, Ukraine, YouTube pundits, and Ukraine
- From the archives: Burn, baby burn
- Essay: Yes, the sky is blue
- Tips and tricks: Become a keyboard ninja
- On the bright side: The bright side of news
History repeating itself
[edit]DFO, I don't know if you recall this discussion[23] we had. My complaints there are still happening far often. Here[24] and here[25] we have editors putting sources on Joan Joyce when the source says no such thing. This type of sloppy editing goes on far too much, and I sometimes take heat[26] for cleaning this crap up. Drmies agrees that I take flack[27] for this kind of editing. BTW I knew Joan Joyce slightly back in the 80's when my father played at the same golf course she did....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:21, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- @WilliamJE:Can you ANI the problem? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:36, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- We talked about ARBcom two years ago but I have never brought an issue there or ever edited there even once. How would ANI be better?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:40, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- WP:ARBCOM is only for intractable problems that WP:ANI and WP:DRN processes, and other noticeboard discussions have failed to remedy, and or for cases involving confidential information, such as Discord logs.. Also, ArbCom is hip deep in a case right now. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:35, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- @WilliamJE: Hopefully, I will have the focus and strength to look through all of this later today. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:37, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, the referenced talk page was that debacle that wound up with a minor getting sued for defamation. This looks much less serious than that. FWIW, ArbCom presented some remedy at WP:ARBBLP. I'll review that article some more as mental acuity permits. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:59, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. Editors violating WP:OR in BLPS, see Missy Gold for an example, or practicing synth in one, see Al Besselink's talk page are other examples of this. 3 editors at Besselink wanted to pronounce him as dead. One of them even stating a solution of WP:IAR. In a BLP? I think its outrageous. Fanfanatic's behavior is a worst case example, but there is plenty of BLP violation editing being done in WP articles and by editors with long histories here....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:52, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- @WilliamJE: These all look like problems amenable to WP:BRD. I see no need for blocks, protection or deletion. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Take a look at this BLP edit[28]. A editor thinks it is acceptable to combine two sources to say this was the former child actress. Neither of which say it. After I remove it again, they double down[29] by adding a source[30] that WP:RSN said[31] wasn't acceptable. WP:OR is pretty damn clear. No original research in BLPs. This editor thinks its acceptable and they are far from the only one around here....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:24, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- That's back some time ago. There is no admin action (block/delete/protect) for me to take. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:30, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- I wasn't asking you to. WP has a BLP problem aka established editors putting too much crap in articles. I have sometimes called it BS with a reference....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:43, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- That's back some time ago. There is no admin action (block/delete/protect) for me to take. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:30, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Take a look at this BLP edit[28]. A editor thinks it is acceptable to combine two sources to say this was the former child actress. Neither of which say it. After I remove it again, they double down[29] by adding a source[30] that WP:RSN said[31] wasn't acceptable. WP:OR is pretty damn clear. No original research in BLPs. This editor thinks its acceptable and they are far from the only one around here....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:24, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- @WilliamJE: These all look like problems amenable to WP:BRD. I see no need for blocks, protection or deletion. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. Editors violating WP:OR in BLPS, see Missy Gold for an example, or practicing synth in one, see Al Besselink's talk page are other examples of this. 3 editors at Besselink wanted to pronounce him as dead. One of them even stating a solution of WP:IAR. In a BLP? I think its outrageous. Fanfanatic's behavior is a worst case example, but there is plenty of BLP violation editing being done in WP articles and by editors with long histories here....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:52, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- We talked about ARBcom two years ago but I have never brought an issue there or ever edited there even once. How would ANI be better?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:40, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Today's bit of sloppy BLP editing can be found here[32]. An editor adds the place for where Joan Joyce died and with a reference for it to a sentence that already had two references on it. Trouble is, the two old references don't say she died in Boca Raton. IMO, those references should have been removed. I have complained[33] (see next to last entry in the thread I linked] about this type of add on referencing before. Might seem trivial, but it can be important. Say if the additional information and reference was about something controversial/BLP violation if not referenced. BTW I took the now outdated references off the sentence....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:36, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Editor #188 on WP:MOSTEDITS restored[34] a reference for Joyce's place of death even though it says no such thing and I had removed it in the previous edit[35] to that page with the edit summary 'Only one of those references says Boca Raton'. Tewapack has done this type of editing before. See here[36] and here[37]. WP has a big problem and I will keep on saying it....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:20, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- Today's bit of sloppy BLP editing can be found here[32]. An editor adds the place for where Joan Joyce died and with a reference for it to a sentence that already had two references on it. Trouble is, the two old references don't say she died in Boca Raton. IMO, those references should have been removed. I have complained[33] (see next to last entry in the thread I linked] about this type of add on referencing before. Might seem trivial, but it can be important. Say if the additional information and reference was about something controversial/BLP violation if not referenced. BTW I took the now outdated references off the sentence....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:36, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Croatian Academy of Sciences and Arts
[edit]Hi! In the article Croatian Academy of Sciences and Arts there are many old informations, or defitient (for example on the list of important members, there were many of them, not only few as it is mentioned) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duhh (talk • contribs) 13:07, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
{{yo}Duhh}}"All content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking."
Please discuss content and sourcing on article talk page and achieve consensus for any changes Please make WP:EDITREQUESTs on the article's talk page. Please seek dispute resolution as needed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:33, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Cliptype
[edit]Hi Deep fried okra, hello, you messaged me and I replied to you, I only have 2 weeks left? to be able to change my username again, this is the third time, the first one who renamed me is K6ka, the second is Cabayi, I know I have to wait another 6 months, but since six months is near, I hope to be renamed now with the name Cliptype. I will never change my name again. Thanks, —Ctrlwìkí (talk) 00:17, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
WikiProject Tropical Storms arbitration case opened
[edit]You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/WikiProject Tropical Storms. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/WikiProject Tropical Storms/Evidence. Please add your evidence by April 13, 2022, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/WikiProject Tropical Storms/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, firefly ( t · c ) 08:24, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Possible autobiography?
[edit]Draft:Jacob Barnett? Appreciate your gentle handling. Seems like a nice person who is totally lost here but seems to make a genuine effort to be helpful. Unless we're being played, I don't get a bad vibe from them. BTW, I don't have any MEDRS type knowledge but in my experience with kids with AS we are ALL on the autistic spectrum somewhere. So thank you for being kind. BusterD (talk) 18:31, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- @BusterD: How did I know? Well, he's done used up my social skills for the day. (You've no idea unless you know well, how exhausting all this interaction is.) I don't feel gentle. I just partial blocked him from WP:RfPP. @JBW: is far more gentle and patient and good with people than I. Maybe he can find the words I lack. He usually does. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:58, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) There is much history to be uncovered. Favonian (talk) 19:02, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- And more recently, this. Favonian (talk) 19:05, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) There is much history to be uncovered. Favonian (talk) 19:02, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- @BusterD: Don't know if its a autobiography. It is a not referenced BLP and its been created as Jacob Barnett (mathematician). I proded the article....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:03, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Not even Deepfriedokra? Now I feel like I kicked a puppy. You're far better at coaching than I. As to the draft, I don't want to autiobio warn if it is him for fear of outing. He's smart, just gets locked into repetitive behavior. If you explain the WP:GNG and WP:RS concerns, he'll probably fix the thing. Oh, looks like time for a movemerge --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:06, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Favonian: then it maybe is not autobio? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:07, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Probably not. Role model? Favonian (talk) 19:08, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- The kid sitting next to him at school?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not recently. The article was first deleted in 2011. Favonian (talk) 19:12, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Now I am getting confused. The article was first created in 2011. Barnett would have been 3 then or am I experiencing time travel?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:17, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Confusion is appropriate, maybe even healthy. According to this source, he was born around 1999. Favonian (talk) 19:26, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Now I am getting confused. The article was first created in 2011. Barnett would have been 3 then or am I experiencing time travel?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:17, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Should I put my aspergers userbox back. Caught some criticism before, but who needs their ableist nonsense anyway. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:13, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Soft shoes is the recommended attire. Favonian (talk) 19:15, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for bringing this history to my attention, User:Favonian. Seems relevant. I'm going to wax OS here but I'd love to have the subject of the linked book finding a place for themselves here. I'm aware we can only spend so much time on each new user before they become #4 Meng: "...I do not go and seek the youthful and inexperienced, but he comes and seeks me... I instruct him. If he apply a second and third time, that is troublesome, and I do not instruct the troublesome..." (Legge translation is my favorite). BusterD (talk) 19:31, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- From now on, I shall think of you as Grand Master Oogway. (deep bow) Favonian (talk) 19:40, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for bringing this history to my attention, User:Favonian. Seems relevant. I'm going to wax OS here but I'd love to have the subject of the linked book finding a place for themselves here. I'm aware we can only spend so much time on each new user before they become #4 Meng: "...I do not go and seek the youthful and inexperienced, but he comes and seeks me... I instruct him. If he apply a second and third time, that is troublesome, and I do not instruct the troublesome..." (Legge translation is my favorite). BusterD (talk) 19:31, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Soft shoes is the recommended attire. Favonian (talk) 19:15, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not recently. The article was first deleted in 2011. Favonian (talk) 19:12, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- The kid sitting next to him at school?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Probably not. Role model? Favonian (talk) 19:08, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Favonian: then it maybe is not autobio? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:07, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Not even Deepfriedokra? Now I feel like I kicked a puppy. You're far better at coaching than I. As to the draft, I don't want to autiobio warn if it is him for fear of outing. He's smart, just gets locked into repetitive behavior. If you explain the WP:GNG and WP:RS concerns, he'll probably fix the thing. Oh, looks like time for a movemerge --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:06, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Protection on Pentagon (South Korean band) article
[edit]Someone removed the protection on there. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 19:49, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy: It expired Yesterday at 8:31 AM -- --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:02, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Reply
[edit]It took some time to reply to your suggestion on my talk page. But this is too difficult for me to edit. I am looking at edits by some other contributors, such as this and thinking: "Why this guy is whitewashing war crimes committed during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine?" User tells in edit summary "not a war crime" about the use of thermobaric weapons (also known as a "vacuum bomb") against civilians and Ukrainian military. This issue has been discussed at talk here [38], and this ref [39] was given to the user during discussion. Nevertheless, they made the edit above, i.e. the unilateral removal of well sourced text about the alleged war crimes. I thought about reporting him to WP:AE, but it would probably be dismissed just as another content dispute. I simply can not interact with such users, and this is not just one user, so I am probably going to avoid editing such subjects. Best regards, My very best wishes (talk) 16:41, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- I changed my response. This is just something very difficult to admit for someone like me. My very best wishes (talk) 15:41, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is less fun than it once was. I feel overwhelmed by the behavior issues. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:27, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- This is a painful subject. I could still try to do something. But unfortunately, there are users who edit war to make this subject disappear (despite to the recent AfD of the page closed a "no consensus"), and especially one of them who was previously blocked for edit-warring on this page: [40],[41]. I went to this page because one of users pinged me at the talk, but I can not even try to fix the page given this history [42]. My very best wishes (talk) 02:52, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is less fun than it once was. I feel overwhelmed by the behavior issues. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:27, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Deletion Restore Request: for Ketto - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ketto (3rd nomination)
[edit][[Ketto}} @deepfriedokra I request you to please help me restore this page. I will give my best to edit and ensure this page alligns to WIKI guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24x7magic (talk • contribs) 10:43, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- @24x7magic: I'm afraid the subject does not meet inclusion requirements for an encyclopedia article. The page was clearly SPAM. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not the place for advertising. If you have a relationship with the subject, please read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID. Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:04, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
In need at ANI once again
[edit]Hello. I have opened an ANI here. Could you have a look at it and, if possible, impose sanctions where needed?
Last time I opened an ANI for this user, no action was taken until three days later after I asked some admins to have a look at it, so this time I decided to start asking sooner. The admin Ymblanter does not want to intervene for - from what I understand - ethical reasons. Thanks in advance. Veverve (talk) 20:22, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
@Ymblanter: What does it all mean? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:53, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, I do not think I understand your question. I stopped acting as admin in topics related to the former Soviet Union (with the exception of vandalism and similarly clear-cut cases) some time ago, I have a notice of this on my user page. Ymblanter (talk) 21:49, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Veverve: Looks like a lot of bickering. Possible a content dispute. Maybe a talk page watcher who likes to read will take a look. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:23, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
Seems to be a proxy?
[edit]That IP seems to have been a proxy, or do you leave that sort of thing up to CUs like Zzuuzz? Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 12:41, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Mako001: Yes, they have better eyes and can see deeper and farther. -- --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:33, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Devante Parker Trade
[edit]What would need to happen in order to verify? NFL posted it on Twitter and it is Patriots.com, first time on Wikipedia so let me know! N724tx (talk) 18:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- @N724tx: that might do it. Regrettably, you did not cite your source. Let's ask @Swagging:. Is that not sufficient? Perhaps you can help with the cite? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:09, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- I have also gotten another confirmation from Phil Perry.
- https://twitter.com/PhilAPerry/status/1510315764171132937 N724tx (talk) 18:17, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- @N724tx: Links, please? Or discuss on article talk? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:11, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sure!
- https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1510306562258046978
- https://www.patriots.com/news/report-patriots-acquire-wr-devante-parker-from-miami
- https://www.nfl.com/news/devante-parker-trade-patriots-acquiring-receiver-dolphins
- I will note, all the reports are based on this one tweet, https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1510301599834513413 N724tx (talk) 18:15, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- @N724tx: Hmm. Please post to the talk page an WP:EDITREQUEST to make the change and provide the links there. I think that's sufficient, but don't want to look stupid(er) if I'm wrong. Let me know how it turns out.! (Oh, God, those instructions are too complicated. Just start a new thread on the talk page about the change and ask if these links are enough.) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:33, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Haha thank you! Will do. I appreciate the help :)
- N724tx (talk) 18:37, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Glad to help18:56, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
[edit]The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
You deserve one of these.. Keep it going Volten001 ☎ 13:56, 3 April 2022 (UTC) |
Chipotle woes
[edit]So there's a Qdoba and a Baja Fresh near'ish to my house, and they're both decent and about the same in quality. Lately, I've been ordering a bowl: bed of lettuce, black beans, whatever protein, veggies, avocado, and so on (hoT sauce on the side). But yesterday, I was in a far away part of town, so I grabbed some Chipotle (same order). Tasted about the same as those other two, but then, unlike those other two, it did n0t agree with me ('nuff said!). El_C 14:19, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- When you're hot, you're hot! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:33, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- That's the thing, though, it wasn't even that hot. Like, a 5 to my usual 10 for Indian food. El_C 14:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- --When you're not, you're not. --Jerry Reed --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:44, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- That's the thing, though, it wasn't even that hot. Like, a 5 to my usual 10 for Indian food. El_C 14:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
dael fry
[edit]why did you block me he is 6’4 i updated a misinformation 213.107.51.107 (talk) 19:04, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Please see your talk page. You did not cite a reliable source. Please see your talk page. Please discuss content and sourcing on the article talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:06, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Delete these pages
[edit]Princess Faye/redwarnRules.json & Princess Faye/redwarnConfig.js —Príncess Faye (talk) 14:22, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Prefix appeal
[edit]Hey, your response to my appeal in UTRS for 82.221.0.0/16 indicates that you did not read my message. Can you please respond to the given points in it. - Gunnar Guðvarðarson (My Talk Page) 15:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Gunnar Guðvarðarson: you are editing, so you are not blocked. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:54, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- And no, Imy decline was spot on. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:55, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- You should address your concerns to @ST47:, the blocking admin. Perhaps he can unravel it for you. UTRS appeal #53149 . --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:59, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- So, because there exist colo prefixes in our giant allocation, that's reason enough to block it all?
Why not block 0.0.0.0/0 then? It contains a lot of colocation hosts... - Gunnar Guðvarðarson (My Talk Page) 16:02, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Gunnar Guðvarðarson: I think you need to discuss with the blocking admin, ST47. Cheers, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Discussion at WP:THQ § How to i close a file for discussion
[edit]You are invited to join the discussion at WP:THQ § How to i close a file for discussion. Marchjuly (talk) 20:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Deepfriedokra. Not so much asking you to comment here (of course you can), but maybe you could keep an eye on this user for a bit. They might try to close the FFD despite being advised not to. They’ve tried to do so once already in a sense by removing the FFD notification from the file’s page, but that was easy to fix. — Marchjuly (talk) 20:58, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oops. Missed your comment there. Thank you. — Marchjuly (talk) 21:00, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I've Seen All Good People turn their heads each day, so satisfied I'm on my way. --Yes (band), --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:07, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- custodio --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:14, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I probably should’ve explained why I asked you about this. It wasn’t really to get you to close the FFD, but rather because you had previously blocked this user once before. They seemed to be surrounding themselves with themselves with respect to this file when they probably should be moving on back two squares and letting the process run its course. So, I thought they might be more inclined to listen to you than perhaps some TH host. Anyway, thank you again for looking at this and commenting. FFDs are, in principle, supposed to stay open for at least a week and this one will probably take much more time than that to resolve. — Marchjuly (talk) 22:48, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: Oh, I did not think you wanted me to close that. (yech) I guess they've stopped. I'm watching the file and the FfD. I'll send an instant karma their way if they start up again. I thought you covered it quite well at the TeaHouse. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:17, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I probably should’ve explained why I asked you about this. It wasn’t really to get you to close the FFD, but rather because you had previously blocked this user once before. They seemed to be surrounding themselves with themselves with respect to this file when they probably should be moving on back two squares and letting the process run its course. So, I thought they might be more inclined to listen to you than perhaps some TH host. Anyway, thank you again for looking at this and commenting. FFDs are, in principle, supposed to stay open for at least a week and this one will probably take much more time than that to resolve. — Marchjuly (talk) 22:48, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- custodio --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:14, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I've Seen All Good People turn their heads each day, so satisfied I'm on my way. --Yes (band), --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:07, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Had you seen this?
[edit]Because I had not: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacob Barnett (4th nomination). There are reams of source material directly detailing the subject. There is a bunch of drek, I'll grant. IMHO, this subject met GNG, even though the process outcome was delete. I'm not sure what to do, but I view the draft differently than before. After going a simple gsearch I found enough material (just from 2020–22) to meet GNG, not just the stuff deleted in 2014. There are mountains of sources, about half are blogs. If this were an event, the subject certainly would meet WP:DURATION. Some of the non-reliable sources are nonetheless intriguing. I'm hesitant to talk too much about it, but encourage you to look at this non-reliable source: https://discover.hubpages.com/health/An-Aspergers-Syndrome-Fairytale-Turns-Into-A-Nightmare (blacklist). There's a deep and partly documented story here which can't be ignored forever. BusterD (talk) 07:52, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I guess I had seen it but not clicked on it. We probably SHOULD have an article on this 22?-year old, IMHO. BusterD (talk) 08:00, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- @BusterD: Well, if a neutral, RS'd version meeting WP:ANYBIO can be created, that would be nice. Once a subject becomes a pop culture sensation/legend, it can be hard to separate out the dross. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
I can help in Sockpuppet investgation
[edit]Hi Deepfriedokra, pardon me for dropping a message here. But I had something to notify you. Regarding this, I can help as such socks are used Assamese names(using English letters) as the username, and I understand their language very well. I will be thankful if I can help Wiki to prevent such socks. Regards- --NeverTry4Me - TT Page 04:57, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- @NeverTry4Me: Thanks, but they are going more on behavioral evidence and check user evidence. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:38, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- @@Deepfriedokra: Uhmm... that's good for the Wiki. But I must be a bit sincere here, as per your faith on me. :) Really, it is a pleasure to be here after getting unblocked tons of and 'unblock request'. I'm happy because I said, I'll come back with reputation, but not with socks. I don't care of the socks pretending to me, because I know the lingual differences, IP (as I use static) and 'meaning in native language' in their usernames. Ex: Gnisu-> 'I won'; Uyuyioiop-> 'Sunrise in Assamese', Daichapra-> 'one who originates from else and settled in another place by ancestry', etc. etc.
Still, I believe I can figure out the socks. Pardon my mistakes. Regards- NeverTry4Me - TT Page 10:01, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- @@Deepfriedokra: Uhmm... that's good for the Wiki. But I must be a bit sincere here, as per your faith on me. :) Really, it is a pleasure to be here after getting unblocked tons of and 'unblock request'. I'm happy because I said, I'll come back with reputation, but not with socks. I don't care of the socks pretending to me, because I know the lingual differences, IP (as I use static) and 'meaning in native language' in their usernames. Ex: Gnisu-> 'I won'; Uyuyioiop-> 'Sunrise in Assamese', Daichapra-> 'one who originates from else and settled in another place by ancestry', etc. etc.
As for the "Retired"
[edit]You mentioned my 'retired' banner. I do not know if it concerns the enforcement directly, unlike the rest of your message. I am willing to provide further details on it if need be, but I am not sure if you would prefer me to do it here or at the Enforcement. And in this case I do not know if I still have enough space left for my statement to do so. Veverve (talk) 13:27, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi there, do you think that a page for Andrew Henderson (the founder and CEO of Nomad Capitalist) is more realistic than a page for the company? I'm only asking because he's been featured by a bunch of mainstream news outlets, including this one recently: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/29/which-countries-have-the-best-passports-most-are-in-europe.html
I don't really understand why he wouldn't deserve a page, since we can point to a lot of news stories where they're prominently covered. Just based off a simple Google search, there's a dozen or so. Thank you!
Doctorstrange617 (talk) 18:27, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- "@Doctorstrange617: Meh. I don't think "deserve" is the right word. I don't think anyone "deserves" an encyclopedia article. If you mean does he meet inclusion requirements, then the only thing to do is write a draft citing reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking, and then submit for the WP:AFC reviewers to look at it . --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:20, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, the WP:Teahouse people can answer that better. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:36, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
editing disclosures
[edit]Thanks for the offer of assistance. I'm an employee of the Alameda County Library system and I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle disclosures so that I can update relevant articles. Rest-assured I'm aware of the prohibition on marketing/promotion, it will only be to update out-of-date factual info. Also, we may be interested in utilizing the Wikipedian in residence program, as I have some previous experience on the 'pedia. How might we go about establishing that? -Libraryguy1312 (talk) 16:32, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Libraryguy1312: The Wikipedian in residence program sounds like a good thing for a librarian, but I really down know about it. Please read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID for the other. @DGG: probably knows more about WiR. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:41, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
WiRs are not supposed to write about their own library or other institution. They are expected to help other people in the library understand Wikipedia so they can explain it to users, and to guide and instruct patrons in using WP and in writing their own articles. If they do that, there is no problem with WP:PAID. Otherwise, like anyone else employed by the library, they must follow WP:COI with respect to their own system.
- If you are doing an uncontroversial update to an article about your library, there is no reason not to do it directly in mainspace. If you are doing it in a manner that might be considered promotional, it has to be done via an edit request, which is an extremely cumbersome system. You need to give the full WP:PAID statement on your user page, and preferably also on the talk page of every relevant article you edit.This may sound excessively cautious, but the interpretation of the rules became stricter after we had one WiR (at Harvard) wrote controversial promotional material about his institute and its director. DGG ( talk ) 03:37, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Use of SPS
[edit]Hello Deepfriedokra, after the protection made on the List of equipment of the Ukrainian Ground Forces, two new created accounts Lucas Cavalcante Mesquita, Conservative cheese ball insist on placing Self Published sources on the article. Despite the proptection. first. 2nd time. Instead of adding Wikipedia:EDITREQUEST for inclusion, they simply reinstate those sources.Mr.User200 (talk) 16:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Deepfriedokra,
- The page is constantly being vandalised by certain individuals for whatever reasons.The sources used are reliable and as per Wikipedia reliable sources "Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications.".This source has been cited by many reputable sources such the British Financial Times, The Independent, The Economist and The Guardian or the Americans Wall Street Journal or Forbes.The author/Creator of this sources also works for bellingcat. All of these sources are considered very reliable according to Wikipedia:New page patrol source guide.I have been editing this page since about when the conflict in Ukraine started so to say I am a new account isn't true.I and may other have been using this source and everyone has generally accepted the use of it except a very small minority.I and others also have been discussing the use of this source and The user above has made no attempt to try communicate with others before deleting large quantities of information which is what was recommended by Callanecc. Conservative cheese ball (talk) 18:14, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- I think you both might want to stop labeling edits you disagree with as vandalism. I think I will remind both of you to assume good faith. I think it would be best if you stop reverting and discuss your edits and sourcing on the article talk page. You can seek an opinion on the disputed sources at the reliable sources board. There are many steps you can take in dispute resolution. If talk page discussion is fruitless, you can seek a third opinion from a neutral editor. Hope this helps. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for clarifying. Conservative cheese ball (talk) 19:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- I think you both might want to stop labeling edits you disagree with as vandalism. I think I will remind both of you to assume good faith. I think it would be best if you stop reverting and discuss your edits and sourcing on the article talk page. You can seek an opinion on the disputed sources at the reliable sources board. There are many steps you can take in dispute resolution. If talk page discussion is fruitless, you can seek a third opinion from a neutral editor. Hope this helps. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
created Draft please help me to published it
[edit]Respected Deepfriedokra, This is inform you that I have recently created Draft:Nk Dairy Equipments please help me to make it publish and also suggest me about to remove any content that violate Wikipedia guidelines as I am confused in that and i also don't want violate any guideline. Please help!. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunnysinghwiki (talk • contribs) 06:41, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Sunnysinghwiki: Thank you for helping to build Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia-- subjects of articles must meet notability guidelines with reliable sources which are unconnected with the subject and which provide verifiable information. Someone unconnected with the subject needs to have written a great deal about the subject. Please see WP:NCORP for inclusion requirements.
- This page needs, unfortunately, to be rewritten from scratch using reliable, third party sources unconnected to the subject. The current sourcing does not deal with the subject directly in sufficient depth. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not an outlet for promotion, advocacy, or advertising.
- Information on content and common pitfalls to avoid can be located here and here, however be aware that this is not an exhaustive list. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:59, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- PS The new user tutorial can help you avoid future problems. You can also ask for help at the TEAHOUSE and on IRC chat. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:10, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
wouldn't bother
[edit]I wouldn't bother with niceties for this user they're trolling xwiki. CUPIDICAE💕 16:21, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- I saw that. I read a little German. Not Korean though. Well, I live in hope. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:29, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
I want to create a draft for Septimius Awards
[edit]Hello talk Deepfriedokra , I want to create a draft for Septimius Awards. Liz invited me to Teahouse to improve the article, so I want to improve the article with the feedback from the users of Teahouse — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evagirl1991 (talk • contribs) 11:50, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Evagirl1991: Yes. Ask at the Teahouse for more personalized help than that linked in my deletion notice. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:18, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Deepfriedokra can you restore the draft page so I can improve the article with the help of Teahouse ? Evagirl1991 (talk) 13:29, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, no. That was Spam. It will need to be rewritten from scratch, with non promotional content, cited to reliable sources as explained in the deletion notice I place on your talk page. The subject's website and press releases are not suitable. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- I will email it to you if you have email enabled. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:34, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:39, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- thank you very much for the email, i will rewrite the from scratch if you give me a chance :) Evagirl1991 (talk) 14:40, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, no. That was Spam. It will need to be rewritten from scratch, with non promotional content, cited to reliable sources as explained in the deletion notice I place on your talk page. The subject's website and press releases are not suitable. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Deepfriedokra can you restore the draft page so I can improve the article with the help of Teahouse ? Evagirl1991 (talk) 13:29, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikieditoreddy ignored your warnings here. May be time to implement some of those discretionary sanctions... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Bloody Hell. I hate DS. Why can't people listen. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- partial block, regular admin action. job done w/o the paper work. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:57, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Liberal ideology
[edit]In a world of liberal snowflakes and easily upset grown children who can not decide if they are a boy or a girl , we now can rely upon you to protect the easily offended..Thank God..oops sorry...I mean praise Allah and Black lives matter! ( atleast for votes anyway right idiot ?? ) 2600:1003:B844:384C:2973:F55F:F83:1DF3 (talk) 17:23, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for holding me accountable! Please remember, rules such as MOS:GENDERID are determined not by me but by the WP:CONSENSUS of Wikipedia editors. Not sure why you are here, though. I'm here to build and curate the world's largest free-content online encyclopedia! I get goosebumps every time I write that. Thanks again. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:29, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- On a personal note, I never was much for Islam. I'm more a Catholozen myself. And, come to think of it, I would imagine many fundamentalist Moslems might share your view on the whole binary/non binary issue. Yours in Christ. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:33, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
2603:6011:4301:8c00::/64
[edit]Hi. Can you extend 2603:6011:4301:8c00::/64 (talk · contribs)'s block. This is an LTA user that doesn't limit to one page (examples [43][44]). Thanks in advance. (CC) Tbhotch™ 16:37, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like HJ Mitchell made them go away --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:11, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
The Yuriy Sedykh POV-pusher
[edit]Someone (I think Billsmith60) was just in #wikipedia-en-help connect complaining about 2A02:1388:2081:3FEA:0:0:0:0/64 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)). I see you've taken care of the /64's edits to Yuriy Sedykh. I've reverted elsewhere. There probably isn't anything else to do now (they've stopped editing, and the range is too dynamic to know which talkpage to warn on), but thought I'd put it on your radar that the issue goes beyond that one page. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 14:05, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Tamzin: Thanks. I'd already protected the page, and now blocked that range. I saw where they removed a post on Maxim's talk from Billsmith.
Clearly a nogoodnick. I got in a fresh box of blocks and SP's, so pretty sure I can outlast them.Or just intensely bad at communicating and WP:AGF. Will watch the page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:28, 21 April 2022 (UTC)- See below thread. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:15, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
According to all sources Yuriy Sedykh was Russian, not Ukrainian! You 're finished as admin, i will request for your deadminship. That is too enough misuse of adminship tools... Levvi1an (talk) 14:48, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Levvi1an: Please discuss content and sourcing on article talk page. Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:52, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- it 's too late, you' re POV-pusher, not admin... Levvi1an (talk) 14:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Please discuss content and sourcing on article talk. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:58, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Billsmith60 and Tamzin: Hey! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:55, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- I mean I guess I'll co-sign a recall request.[Joke] But uh... Guess it's good we don't have to deal with them hopping all over the /64 now. Although of course it's evasion if one wants to go down that route... -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 15:00, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Am WP:AGF that this is concerned editor and that nogoodnick not evading block. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:01, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Not nogoodnik. Might have been right. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:07, 21 April 2022 (UTC)- That's a whole lot of AGF right there. But I don't disagree with seeing how it plays out. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 15:03, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Will be away from keyboard if the actually file complaint. I'll be back later on . --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:06, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Damn. Some of the sources do say Russian. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Has a nationality dispute ever been easy? -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 15:47, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yuriy was a big guy - you wouldn't want him to PUNCHES YOU IN THE FACE XD!!!! Girth Summit (blether) 17:29, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- No thanks. I've already had one. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Born in Russia, grew up in Ukraine, threw heavy things around for the Soviet Union, retired to France. Could we get away with just saying 'European' do you think... ? Girth Summit (blether) 17:39, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yah. My thoughts exactly. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:43, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- If all men are brothers, why is Peter Gabriel so sad? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xZmlUV8muY --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:46, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- I will go to THAT swingding. BusterD (talk) 17:59, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Is nogoodnick after all --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:26, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I will go to THAT swingding. BusterD (talk) 17:59, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- If all men are brothers, why is Peter Gabriel so sad? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xZmlUV8muY --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:46, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yah. My thoughts exactly. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:43, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Born in Russia, grew up in Ukraine, threw heavy things around for the Soviet Union, retired to France. Could we get away with just saying 'European' do you think... ? Girth Summit (blether) 17:39, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- No thanks. I've already had one. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Damn. Some of the sources do say Russian. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Will be away from keyboard if the actually file complaint. I'll be back later on . --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:06, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- That's a whole lot of AGF right there. But I don't disagree with seeing how it plays out. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 15:03, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- I mean I guess I'll co-sign a recall request.[Joke] But uh... Guess it's good we don't have to deal with them hopping all over the /64 now. Although of course it's evasion if one wants to go down that route... -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 15:00, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- it 's too late, you' re POV-pusher, not admin... Levvi1an (talk) 14:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
A heads up
[edit]I noticed that you had some interaction with a couple of users over the past month (User talk:Paintedgoatturd and User talk:50.246.108.45) who may be connected to User talk:50.225.122.226 who is (was?) a sock of Bagofscrews. The 50.225.122.226 IP showed up in a watchlist and looking at the edits, the other two appear to be connected. I haven't taken anything to AN/I or added to the sock investigation yet - I thought I'd see if anything else comes up. But since I saw your interaction with these other two, I thought I'd mention it to you. They have a tendency to edit the same articles repeatedly with nonsense. ButlerBlog (talk) 18:43, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Might want to report at SPI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:31, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- I probably will do that sooner rather than later. ButlerBlog (talk) 22:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
Yuhitsyourgirlyuh
[edit]"Yu hits your girl yuh" - is that how you read that username, or what's the point in your reblock? Widr (talk) 21:09, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Widr:Yes. I found that disruptive and meriting a username block and needful of a change to a constructive user name should they wish to edit.. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:13, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Okay. I read is as "Yuh its your girl yuh" - doesn't really matter though, end result is the same. Widr (talk) 21:18, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- To each their own. Probably moot given their "style." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:20, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed. Carry on! :-) Widr (talk) 21:22, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- To each their own. Probably moot given their "style." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:20, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Okay. I read is as "Yuh its your girl yuh" - doesn't really matter though, end result is the same. Widr (talk) 21:18, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
Just an FYI, User:22funny is repeating edits[45] made by WP:BKFIP so looks like a case of WP:EVADE. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 14:50, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Kinda thought someone was missing a sock. Neatly folded and put in drawer by AmandaNP. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:52, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
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WeatherSTEM, Inc. page content deleted, please restore
[edit]Our company page was just deleted for WeatherSTEM, Inc. I believe this was done by mistake, we are not promoting a person or product, we are just giving information on the company and founder. How can I get this back up and running? Can you please be more specific on what needs to be removed or changed in the content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WeatherSTEM, Inc. (talk • contribs) 13:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Replied on user's talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
defeedme
[edit]Hi I waited over 24hrs like you suggested to submit another unblock request but the system still does not allow it. this is my submission: Hi Deepfriedokra, my edits merited a block because I was unaware the historic link jonesbeach.com would be a problem - it was on the wiki page for Jones Beach Theater for almost 20 years with no problems at all. It is a useful site that has been used by millions since 1998, it is the original and only Jones Beach / Jones Beach Theater link for many years. I asked politely & requested to add the link as an independent guide at the bottom in external links but ohnoitsjamie failed to respond. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted that failure. What I would do differently now is never add that link to wikipedia. Constructive edits I would like to do going forward would be to use my 40 years of experience working at Jones Beach to add useful historic photos and information related to the Jones Beach Theater, Jones Beach State Park and any other Jones Beach type articles. I also have knowledge on many other topics as well that I will make useful contributions for. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.92.27.137 (talk) 14:25, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Well, give it another 24 hours. You may have reset the clock. However, I don't see this as addressing the unblock requirements I gave you. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:28, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- @AmandaNP: If you could have a look? It's UTRS appeal #57574 --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- The system is designed to prevent second appeals for 48 hours, aka 2 days. Not 24 hours. -- Amanda (she/her) 16:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- @AmandaNP: If you could have a look? It's UTRS appeal #57574 --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- ok thanks I addressed each of the 3 items you asked me to. is there something else I need to address? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.92.27.137 (talk) 15:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- OK, well, if you feel satisfied, then please try again >48 hrs after the last one. Sorry for my confusion as to duration of the lock-out. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:44, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, no problem nobody is perfect.. I submitted the appeal yesterday but it seems to be in limbo? 73.0.31.205 (talk) 09:04, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sometimes it takes longer than we like. Crushing work loads and limited people. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:17, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, no problem nobody is perfect.. I submitted the appeal yesterday but it seems to be in limbo? 73.0.31.205 (talk) 09:04, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- OK, well, if you feel satisfied, then please try again >48 hrs after the last one. Sorry for my confusion as to duration of the lock-out. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:44, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
I just noticed you blocked a user from editing a related article ([[46]]). The article I cite in the title above has been vandalized by no less than four different accounts recently, all being created a short time before going on their run of vandalism. I'm suspecting sockpuppetry with all these accounts, one of which has been blocked indefinitely ([[47]]), with a report filed at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lysimtmyblig. This rash of vandalism at the same articles under different accounts can't simply be a coincidence. MPFitz1968 (talk) 06:27, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- @MPFitz1968: Indeed. You might want to report at WP:SPI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:29, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Looks hit-and-run. I placed some partial blocks and made some protections. I doubt the accounts I blocked mean to return. I'll be awake until I'm not, so feel free to ping me if more is needed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:43, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
your suggestion about me
[edit]Hello Deepfriedokra, I am not connected to the article Charlie Anne Xavier , I am not the husband as you suggested , I am 16 years old !! and I am sending this message here to not create any more insult comments of that articles of deletion, but I know I will be labeled something bad , because I expressed compassion and called about the bad behavior, I just ask that you as a more senior editor, can see how many editors in there lost their way on their opinions, that is all. I am deleting my account, since Wikipedia is clearly not a place that promotes kindness and positivity. Wishing you all the best . Cvillexpert (talk) 11:05, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Cvillexpert: Sorry, calling bullshit. There was no bad behavior to call out. It is not bad behavior to say that the subject of an article does not meet notability, that the sources are poor, and that the article reads like a promo piece. And, forgive my doubting your claims here, but you don't need to be an English major (as I once was) or to have experience in sock puppet investigations (as I have) to spot the plot holes and inconsistencies in your narrative. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:52, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Please restore Ethan Ralph's protection
[edit]And please make it indefinite. Vandalism has shot up since it expired. Really I recommend blue lock, but that's at your discretion, but we at least need indefinite gray lock. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 08:25, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Psiĥedelisto: SP, four months. ECP was tempting. Let me know if it starts up again or if ECP is needed. I more than doubled the duration from the last time, so it's a big increase. I'll add it to my watch list. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:15, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm unfortunately sure it will, so see you in four months ;-) Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 09:42, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Revdel request at Sofia Banzhaf
[edit]I would appreciate revdel of the followings: [48] [49] [50] [51] [52] [53]. Serious BLP violations. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 14:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:14, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 15:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- U R welcome! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:41, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 15:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
IP at Abdulrahman Ibrahim Ibn Sori
[edit]You asked to be informed if the IP editing the page Abdulrahman Ibrahim Ibn Sori got around the block you instituted April 30. They did today, as 2600:387:F:4710:0:0:0:8. Agricolae (talk) 02:54, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Fully protected Looks like a content dispute, and she has added a source (?). --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:05, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
186.96.209.91 back as 186.96.209.67
[edit]Hi! On 1 April you blocked 186.96.209.91 for a week. It appears that this editor has returned as 186.96.209.67, based on the very similar nonconstructive edits to the same related set of articles, as well as the nearly identical strange messages that both IPs added to their talk pages (here and here). CodeTalker (talk) 17:11, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Trying to find a sandbox space for our young friend Carlos
[edit]Hey there. He's still talking to me and I've made it pretty tough to do so. So I'm still in too. Normally I would mentor someone on sandbox or draft space but I'm not ready to endorse any additional user rights yet, talk privileges still being temporary. Today we're working in talkspace. Any ideas? BusterD (talk) 17:03, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- You are way ahead of me on this one. Way outta my league! You have something I lack, an intuitive feel for others and nuanced conversation. I get by via emulation, rehearsal, practice, and more rehearsal. I wish we could selectively un-partial block. That way we could give someone their sand box. Here's a dangerous thought, and it would be out of scope for Meta, so the folks there might not like it. Perhaps he could edit META:User:Carletteyt/sandbox? I sometimes send UTRSers to my META talk to verify UTRS tickets. Haven't been stopped yet. Though the admins there might block out-of-hand. Better to ask and risk denial or boldly go and then apologize? Again, going into the blind zone. Hope this helps. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:30, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- I have heard several suggestions they might better edit es.wiki or si.wiki but I'm not sending a problem somewhere else. I tried creating a talk/sandbox and they can't edit. I guess we can continue in talkspace. I'm going to give him some extra time today, but I have RL stuff to do as well. Appreciate your head on this stuff. BusterD (talk) 17:34, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Revdel request at Tigray Defense Forces
[edit]Possible copyright violation [54]. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 17:17, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- I get myself into trouble on possible copy vio's. It does not look as such to me. Will ask someone better than I. @DanCherek: Hey! is this a COPYVIO? Cheers --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:41, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hey DFO, thanks for the ping! Yes it is – I was coincidentally just looking at this (it was also flagged by the copyright bot [55][56]). I've gone ahead and requested revdel. Hope you're doing well! DanCherek (talk) 17:45, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Better all the time. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- It is done! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:53, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Much appreciated. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 17:56, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- It is done! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:53, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Better all the time. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hey DFO, thanks for the ping! Yes it is – I was coincidentally just looking at this (it was also flagged by the copyright bot [55][56]). I've gone ahead and requested revdel. Hope you're doing well! DanCherek (talk) 17:45, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Beg a boon of thee
[edit]Could you add Vicki Iseman and John McCain lobbyist controversy to your watchlist? I think those pages will blow up this week, based on the attempted insertion of a primary source from a connected person in the last few hours. This issue will be on cable news, guaranteed. (not the insertion, but the controversy) BusterD (talk) 10:18, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- How delightful! Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:39, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- @BusterD: Let the onslaught begin! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Surprised it started so late. There's sex, an active lobbyist, a dead national hero, and his daughter the tv personality. I expect somebody to write a tawdry book on this stuff. By lunchtime we'll have reliable secondaries discussing the substack and the twitter war. I'm shocked Politico or TheHill isn't already all over this. BusterD (talk) 13:08, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Besides the primary source, so far I see Salon and NY Mag. Earlier I saw MSN, but not seeing it now. This is marginal coverage. I don't recognize Pajiba but they may meet RS. Business Insider I can't trust and Yahoo News is Yahoo News. I'm expecting MSNBC to feature this stuff during primetime tonight. Cable news loves stories about sex and politics and now we have the first public evidence (an admission of complicity) of the affair between the lobbyist and the senator. Juicy material for TV. Expect lots of still stock photos but no real examination. Our coverage to date has been pretty solid and our deletion processes are fully transparent. BusterD (talk) 21:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- After the prior lawsuit, perhaps they do not wish to rush in. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:11, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Certainly puts the NYT staff contributor's 2009 statement in some perspective. The Times doesn't normally make public statements on wikipedia talk pages. The Iseman article was written while I was actually watching live as I said in one of the deletion discussions. It was a new experience to me. Seems like a lifetime ago. User:Wasted Time R is still around. Many of the others (but not all) have long since left the project. BusterD (talk) 13:36, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- I took this to BLP/N. People need to be aware. These pages will be getting lots of views soon. BusterD (talk) 22:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- And the winner is: Joy Reid of Reid Out at 7:47pm EDT. A teasing reference, intended to bolster the "Republicans sure like Russian oligarchs" meme (which Schmidt also covers in his Substack, the act, not the meme). I'm guessing they're saving sex for later in primetime. BusterD (talk) 23:53, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- I doubt the lobbyist angle will get much attention now – it's old news and she was a lobbyist for domestic telecom companies, not Russian oligarchs (as the disjointed Schmidt substack seems to imply). Wasted Time R (talk) 00:06, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds like a lot more mentions for Schmidt's blog or whatever than he would have gotten without the breaking-news edits sourced to it. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:00, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- I doubt the lobbyist angle will get much attention now – it's old news and she was a lobbyist for domestic telecom companies, not Russian oligarchs (as the disjointed Schmidt substack seems to imply). Wasted Time R (talk) 00:06, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- And the winner is: Joy Reid of Reid Out at 7:47pm EDT. A teasing reference, intended to bolster the "Republicans sure like Russian oligarchs" meme (which Schmidt also covers in his Substack, the act, not the meme). I'm guessing they're saving sex for later in primetime. BusterD (talk) 23:53, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- I took this to BLP/N. People need to be aware. These pages will be getting lots of views soon. BusterD (talk) 22:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Certainly puts the NYT staff contributor's 2009 statement in some perspective. The Times doesn't normally make public statements on wikipedia talk pages. The Iseman article was written while I was actually watching live as I said in one of the deletion discussions. It was a new experience to me. Seems like a lifetime ago. User:Wasted Time R is still around. Many of the others (but not all) have long since left the project. BusterD (talk) 13:36, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Surprised it started so late. There's sex, an active lobbyist, a dead national hero, and his daughter the tv personality. I expect somebody to write a tawdry book on this stuff. By lunchtime we'll have reliable secondaries discussing the substack and the twitter war. I'm shocked Politico or TheHill isn't already all over this. BusterD (talk) 13:08, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- @BusterD: Let the onslaught begin! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Zenica
[edit]Please check this diff /arch., alt. arch./ (maybe compare with other revisions after edit wars) before speedily reverting seemingly weird contrib. Thanks. --5.43.77.122 (talk) 23:59, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Well, this certainly is seemingly weird, and as this IP is blocked, weirder still --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:57, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Discussion at WP:THQ § Posting wrong info
[edit]You are invited to join the discussion at WP:THQ § Posting wrong info. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:51, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Deepfriedokra. I'm just letting you know about this as a courtesy. The only article this user has tried to edit so far has been Nilesh Dnyandev Lanke and I'm assuming that their Teahouse post is somehow related to what happened there. Since you've blocked the user from further editing the article, perhaps you're the best person to try and explain the reason why they ae blocked and what their options (e.g. edit requests via the article's talk page) are moving forward. I know you've already done this on their user talk page, but perhaps you could also clarify things at the Teahouse. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:58, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your post at the Teahouse. Hopefully, the OP will follow your advice and use the article's talk page to request changes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- I live in hope. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:04, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your post at the Teahouse. Hopefully, the OP will follow your advice and use the article's talk page to request changes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Autopatrolled
[edit]Hi DFO - I can give you a bit more on this. When a regular editor creates a new article, it gets that no index tag, so that search indexes don't pick it up, and the article goes into the Special:NewPagesFeed - basically a filtered queue of new articles. New Page Patrollers work the queue, giving the articles a once over to ensure it's not an attack page, spam, replicating something we've already got, etc, or if the subject is non-notable. If it passes muster, it will get marked as 'reviewed', which takes it out of the queue and removes the 'no index' tag. (If an article goes for 90 days without being reviewed, it automatically gets the tag removed.) Editors with a long track record of producing high-quality articles can be given the 'autopatrolled' flag. Articles created by them are assumed not to need a going over, they don't go into the queue and they don't get the no index tag. It makes no difference at all to the autopatrolled person's editing experience - it's about saving the NPPs' time, nothing more. Hope that helps. Girth Summit (blether) 13:46, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- As I thought. The reason given for autopatrolled seemed odd. Cheers, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry question
[edit]So, I've come across two accounts that i think are sockpuppets. One is blocked permanently and the other is not. Should I report the one that is not blocked or just let it go? Dinosaur TrexXX33 (chat?) 18:08, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Report at WP:SPI --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:18, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Dinosaur TrexXX33 (chat?) 18:39, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Sparta Battalion protection
[edit]Hi Deepfriedokra, thank you for your interest in the article Sparta Battalion. Just wanted to warn you that the latest revert[57] was done by a newly created account[58] that is participating after only a few contributions in several hot issues, such as participating in an RFC to remove the Azov battalion as "neo-Nazi",[59] or by removing parts with sources covering negative aspects of Ukrainian President Zelensky.[60] After only 6 contributions on Wikipedia they already know some keywords like WP:DUE, that's curious...[61] Maybe there is nothing strange and it is a user who learns everything quickly (it took me 5 years to understand something, maybe I'm not that smart :)). Could you consider removing the block? Thank you, see you soon.--Mhorg (talk) 09:40, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Mhorg: Thank you for your interest in Sparta Battalion. Is it really so onerous to leave it at the wrong version for a couple of days? I take it you wish to restore your preferred version, but what will you do when someone reverts you? Please discuss content and sourcing on the article talk page. If you suspect sock puppets, please report at WP:SPI. If there are conduct issues, please report at WP:AN. (I have absolutely no interest in that article. I protected it because there was edit warring, which is disruptive.) Please feel free to request unprotection. Please tell them I declined on my talk page. @Volunteer Marek: I value your insight.
- It won't persuade me to INVOLVE myself, but perhaps you can offer guidance to Mhong. Best. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:30, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Update. This revert -->[62] (current version) has been done by a confirmed sock-puppet.- GizzyCatBella🍁 16:46, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- How-- delightful. Well, as I'm neutral and as this was the sock of a previous blockee, I can revert to the last version. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:55, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- You don’t have to. This was just an update. The agreement should be reached first. - GizzyCatBella🍁 16:57, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- True. Leave it be. That's my motto. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- It looked like an edit war largely after reverts by this person [63][64] who has been blocked for socking. I think you should remove the protection altogether but impose semi-protection on both Vladimor Zhoga and Sparta Battalion because page protection wasn't needed in the first place if it weren't for reverts by sock. Thanks. Jhy.rjwk (talk) 02:20, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Jhy.rjwk: It's pretty clear there was edit warring among other users. The blocked sock was a relative newcomer. I mean, it's all right there in the edit history. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:34, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Jhy.rjwk: Here's a thought-- if you wish to make an edit that does not mean restoring your preferred version, please make an edit request on the talk page. BTW, FP expires tomorrow. Hopefully, waiting won't be too onerous. Meanwhile, perhaps a consensus will emerge on the talk page. Best --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:40, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Jhy.rjwk: It's pretty clear there was edit warring among other users. The blocked sock was a relative newcomer. I mean, it's all right there in the edit history. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:34, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- You don’t have to. This was just an update. The agreement should be reached first. - GizzyCatBella🍁 16:57, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- How-- delightful. Well, as I'm neutral and as this was the sock of a previous blockee, I can revert to the last version. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:55, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Update. This revert -->[62] (current version) has been done by a confirmed sock-puppet.- GizzyCatBella🍁 16:46, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
Definitely copyright infringement: [65] [66]. Copied from [67]. Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 18:23, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
Legal
[edit]Hi there. Regarding your comment re: WP:NLT, my interpretation of the policy is that WP doesnt care if legal action is being taken, as long as it's not brought up in WP discussions. Further, it doesn't seem that WP cares if the case is just or frivolous, or if people make their decision to file (or not) because of money (or lack thereof). Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 02:49, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Legal threats are wrong because they have a chilling effect. One should not not make them because they should choose the more collegial approach of Dispute resolution. Best. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:09, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- clarified. I hope. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- we don't really know if he called a lawyer or not. But for next time, he should not the right, wiki way. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:15, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, I think you meant it was the "wrong reason" for an unblock, while I originally interpreted your comment as a commentary on their decision to not pursue legal action because of money.—Bagumba (talk) 03:50, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah. I phrased it badly. I really think they need to learn how to resolve disputes without all the histrionics and melodrama. I think that was the root cause that went unaddressed at ANI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:52, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I had tried to nudge both parties to focus on content at the original AN3 thread, but it continued more as a personal battleground than about the content dispute itself. The other party is not totally blameless, but the community is quick to whack legal threats. Best.—Bagumba (talk) 03:58, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- I figured they might have been entitled to a boomerang. No one gets that angry without a reason. I figured party of the first part really provoked party of the second part. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:06, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I had tried to nudge both parties to focus on content at the original AN3 thread, but it continued more as a personal battleground than about the content dispute itself. The other party is not totally blameless, but the community is quick to whack legal threats. Best.—Bagumba (talk) 03:58, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah. I phrased it badly. I really think they need to learn how to resolve disputes without all the histrionics and melodrama. I think that was the root cause that went unaddressed at ANI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:52, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, I think you meant it was the "wrong reason" for an unblock, while I originally interpreted your comment as a commentary on their decision to not pursue legal action because of money.—Bagumba (talk) 03:50, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- we don't really know if he called a lawyer or not. But for next time, he should not the right, wiki way. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:15, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- clarified. I hope. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
2603,.6011.,DF01
[edit]This person who you blocked from certain pages is back doing disruptive editing. I know who it is. He has been blocked many times using different ip addresses. Thank you Doriden (talk) 14:29, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Jersey City Fire Department
[edit]His latest nonsense was the Jersey City Fire Department page. Doriden (talk) 14:30, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Cease
[edit]Please stop with these disruptive editing. I am calling for your full block.Doriden (talk)\
Sorry I thought that I was writing to the disruptive editor. Doriden (talk) 14:36, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Sorry
[edit]I thought I was writing to the disruptive editor Doriden (talk) 14:37, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Same person
[edit]His latest disruptive editing was Jersey City Fire Department page. Thank you Doriden (talk) 14:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
You know the person
[edit]Sorry to bother you again, you banned him because of Timothy LeDuc, Kevin Conroy, and The Land That Time Forgot. Please assist, his last disruptive editing today Jersey City Fire Department page. I put it back to the way it was previously. The ip address he is using is the one you blocked him from certain pages, the ones I mentioned. Please assist, Thanks again, Doriden (talk) 15:03, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
NeverTry4Me
[edit]Any chance you can connect with them in a way @Bonadea and I are failing? They're now removing Bonadea's absolutely valid decline. I'm definitely Involved as original AfD closer, but I feel like they're continuing to push the edges on this article for reasons. Any suggestions? Thanks either way. Star Mississippi 20:29, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Meh. We'lll see if that works. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! I do not get his laser focus on this one. Star Mississippi 21:10, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Decline reasons:
- Most are press releases. Answer: Without reading the news, it was said. The news is not press releases at all.
- the ISBN is for the electronic edition. Answer: Electronic editions are not source?
- Most are press releases. Answer: Without reading the news, it was said. The news is not press releases at all.
- Above all, no third party source cites the entire article. Sources were well added to support each sentence. - Signed by NeverTry4Me Talk 21:23, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- @NeverTry4Me:
Without reading the news, it was said.
Well, it is important that you do read the sources before you add them. That many of the newspaper sources in the draft are press releases is a fact.Electronic editions are not source?
Read the comment again. It says nothing about electronic editions not being sources. And you have resubmitted again without bothering to add basic information about the book sources, despite a detailed explanation. --bonadea contributions talk 22:20, 19 May 2022 (UTC)- I have submitted after adding and editing the sources. - Signed by NeverTry4Me Talk 22:27, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- It also says Please do not remove reviewer comments or this notice until the submission is accepted. If you persist in editing disruptively on this article, you will lose access to editing it. I suggest you listen to what everyone but you is saying. Star Mississippi 00:26, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- @NeverTry4Me:
There's no COI/paid there, they're just a crazy fanboy who is now campaigning on Twitter to have people revert and harass me in particular. PRAXIDICAE💕 20:29, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- He is heading for an indefinite block. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:30, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- IMO, " crazy fanboy" is a conflict of interest. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:31, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- I got a notification bc my username was mentioned and saw this among other things. PRAXIDICAE💕 20:31, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- I trust you know how to deal with that better than I. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Anachronist: Think we need to indef. Please see above. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Can you up it to ECP at least? PRAXIDICAE💕 20:44, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not seeing vandalism from autoconfirmed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:47, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Watched page --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:48, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not seeing vandalism from autoconfirmed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:47, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Can you up it to ECP at least? PRAXIDICAE💕 20:44, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Anachronist: Think we need to indef. Please see above. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- I trust you know how to deal with that better than I. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
I prefer to wait until the block expires to see if this SPA editor actually tries to collaborate by discussing improvements on the talk page. If the editor doesn't take advantage of this one chance or redemption (because I've seen instances in the past where a disruptive new editor became a good contributor), then I'll gladly indef.
@Praxidicae: Off-wiki canvassing to disrupt articles attracts anonymous IP addresses or unconfirmed accounts, not experienced editors, so ECP isn't needed. Deepfriedokra has already semi-protected it, which will prevent this disruption. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:08, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
What disruptive editing are you talking about?
[edit]Dear Deepfriedokra,
In the Article "World War II casualties of the Soviet Union" there are two figures added by colonel Sergey Il'enkov Head of the Russian Defense Ministry Archive Service: one of 1996, the other of 2001. References 10 and 11. 21 years have passed and I have added Mr. Il'enkov's figures of 2021 published in The Novaya Gazeta with its Editor-in-Chief having been awarded Nobel Peace Prize of 2021. One must be a very unprofessional editor to have labeled it a "persistent disruptive editing". In fact the new discoveries by colonel Il'enkov of 2021 must completely substitute those of 1996 and 2001 which are looking awkward now. Kindly put back my contribution:
But now the same Sergey Il'enkov and Vladimir Eliseev, long-term employees of CDMA, processed this file for many years and counted 23.5 million cards as a result, and excluding duplicates, 21.3 million people whose individual deaths are documented in one way or another. It does not reflect materials from other departmental archives (for example, the naval one, where there are about 150 thousand people in a similar card index). So they believe we can talk about 21.5 million killed or dead military personnel.<nowiki> [1]<'nowiki>
Kind Regards,
Professional historian and editor Въ 109.252.188.39 (talk) 18:28, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- You should probably discuss content and sourcing on the article talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:54, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- There is no topic for discussion on the article talk page. There remains the same sourcing - Sergey Il'enkov from CDMA, but enriched in the course of 21 years by new data. History is a developing science. Do not try to thwart its development. Otherwise there is a strong impression of editing on the payroll of the Russian Defense Ministry which generals wish to keep the Soviet military losses under their caps as those in the present Ukraine. At present it looks like editing for 30 pieces of silver. Въ 109.252.188.39 (talk) 20:38, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Well, as Wikipedia is a collaborative project, I'm not sure that is a collaborative attitude. No idea why you are telling me this. I have no interest in that article. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:47, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Dear Deepfriedokra,
- “You are not supposed to know these figures”, said in a live TV talk show of Vladimir Pozner “Времена” ("Times") President of the Academy of Military Sciences General of the Army M.A. Gareev, defending Krivosheev’s casualties figures. That means, dear EnWiki editors and readers, that you are also being deprived of true figures as those of the present Russian military losses in the Ukraine.
- If Wikipedia really is a collaborative project let us collaborate in chasing away all payed Putin's bots. Any doubts there are such guys?
- Well, contribute yourself the same passage (you have deleted) in RuWiki and see how many minutes it will be in the Article after Согласно современным данным, демографические потери СССР составили 25—27 млн человек[⇨].in the second line:
- Сергей Ильенков и Владимир Елисеев — многолетние сотрудники ЦАМО — много лет обрабатывали эту картотеку и насчитали в итоге 23,5 млн карточек, а за вычетом дублетов — 21,3 млн человек, чья индивидуальная смерть так или иначе задокументирована. Здесь не отражены материалы других ведомственных архивов (например, военно-морского, где в аналогичной картотеке — около 150 тыс. человек), так что можно говорить о 21,5 млн убитых или погибших военнослужащих. <nowiki>[2]>/nowiki>
- If any Russian historian does it is sure to disappear in 30 minutes. The watchdogs are always at their work.
- In the EnWiki the result is the same, but comes slower. Your watchdogs are chasing away any truth on the Soviet military losses in WWII.
- Are 30 pieces of silver enough? Въ 109.252.188.39 (talk) 13:26, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Replied on user's talk --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- 30 pieces of silver? Man, I need a raise! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- I have added to the Talk page two paragraphs under the most reliable Soviet sources to disavow all this Krivosheev's crap. They have sparked no discussions. As for the new figures by colonel Sergey Il'enkov, it goes without saying, they should automatically replace his own data of 1996 and 2001. He kept working in the same field for 21 years to learn more. No other opinion of any editor is possible, isn't it? Is there anything to discuss? Въ 109.252.188.39 (talk) 20:21, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- 30 pieces of silver? Man, I need a raise! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Replied on user's talk --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Well, as Wikipedia is a collaborative project, I'm not sure that is a collaborative attitude. No idea why you are telling me this. I have no interest in that article. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:47, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- There is no topic for discussion on the article talk page. There remains the same sourcing - Sergey Il'enkov from CDMA, but enriched in the course of 21 years by new data. History is a developing science. Do not try to thwart its development. Otherwise there is a strong impression of editing on the payroll of the Russian Defense Ministry which generals wish to keep the Soviet military losses under their caps as those in the present Ukraine. At present it looks like editing for 30 pieces of silver. Въ 109.252.188.39 (talk) 20:38, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
FYI, ANI thread
[edit]Hi Deepfriedokra, just so you know, I mentioned you in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Mohammad asfaq. Thanks for blocking them from Paramardi – I appreciate your starting with a minimally harsh block, but I'm afraid the same behaviour has continued elsewhere. I had already started composing an ANI thread yesterday before your block but didn't post it then, so I updated and posted it now (that's why I didn't just drop a note here. After all I had already compiled all that evidence :-) ) --bonadea contributions talk 09:22, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Sr Benedicta Ward
[edit]Dear user, I was sorry to see that you had removed my edits re the date of death of Sr Benedicta Ward. I did in fact get the date wrong as I misread the date on my desktop calendar. She died peacefully at Fairacres Convent yesterday morning, 23 May 2022. I am the editor of SLG Press and work at the convent. The announcement of her death is confirmed by St Stephens House in Oxford via their FaceBook page. I would be glad if you could reinstate the edits with the revised date of death and then delete my name from this post. Thank you. Julia Craig-McFeely, Editor, SLG Press, Fairacres Convent, Oxford. Julia.cmcf (talk) 10:51, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Please discuss content and sourcing on Talk:Benedicta Ward. Thanks. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:38, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Di María
[edit]Hello Deepfriedokra, I am just curious. For how long did you protect Ángel Di María? Paul Vaurie (talk) 06:16, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Paul Vaurie: Looks like 1 week. Would you like it longer/shorter? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:09, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- I think that one week is good for now, thank you Deepfriedokra. However, if the disruptive editing continues, I think we will need to protect until at least July 1st, when his contract at Paris Saint-Germain runs out. Paul Vaurie (talk) 15:43, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- My thoughts as well. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:44, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- I think that one week is good for now, thank you Deepfriedokra. However, if the disruptive editing continues, I think we will need to protect until at least July 1st, when his contract at Paris Saint-Germain runs out. Paul Vaurie (talk) 15:43, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Bringing to your notice
[edit]Dear editor, I want to bring to your notice Alha page, the recent disruptive editing on the page. As the talk page of the article suggests the contents were discussed and added to stable version. Now, again some new accounts are reverting, editing on the page. Surprisingly, the account was just given warning by you and they reverted RS6784 (talk) 15:16, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, the ones that need to discuss never do. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:19, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Similar activity by same accounts is there on the page of the brother of this legendary character Alha, here on Udal of Mahoba, this also had an previously agreed stable version and now continuous changing are being done as per wishes of young SPA. I would request your attention there as well. RS6784 (talk) 15:36, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Thom Bresh
[edit]I think Thom Bresh can be un-protected now that a reliable source has been found verifying his death. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:03, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Page Protection
[edit]Dear DeepFriedOkra, i submitted for a page protection for this page https://id.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiao_Zhan because of vandalism of various i address. Would you help me process it please? Thank you. Dearnurulsky (talk) 16:04, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Dearnurulsky: This here is the English Wikipedia. The page you want protected is on the Indonesian Wikipedia. You would need to request protection of the Indonesian Wikipedia. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:21, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for your response. I have no idea how to reach Indonesian Wikipedia administrator, let me find out more about this matter. Once again, thank you. Dearnurulsky (talk) 16:59, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Me neither. Don't read that language. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:00, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Dearnurulsky, WP:RFPP's interwiki links point to id:Wikipedia:Permintaan perhatian pengurus/Perlindungan. Cabayi (talk) 09:21, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed. The EN version needed a touch-up too. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:07, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oh. That's too easy. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:09, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Titan the Robot=
[edit]Dear Deepfriedokra, yesterday I've submitted a request for protection of this page in the english name space: Titan the Robot
Unfortunately I can't find the request on the Wikipedia page for submitted protection requests or the relevant archive page. I've written a rather lengthy explanation for it. May it be that the form got broken by that text? I can't find any info that I submitted the request. Can you please have a look into this? I'm more concerned that the request might have been lost by some technical error than that the request might be refused.MiBerG (talk) 20:34, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- @MiBerG: I see no such edit in your contribs. Special:Contributions/MiBerG. Please be brief. There is no need for lengthy explanations. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:13, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Should Mitski's page be Indefinitely semi protected?
[edit]I think her page keeps getting vandalised by her fans, which is very disruptive. Also sorry for requesting here because i got banned on request protection. Pixiepinkiel (talk) 12:15, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Already protected. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:17, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- I mean like indefinite semi protection, because of unsourced content and vandalism, which might be disrupting.
- Also i'm not here to request protections again. Pixiepinkiel (talk) 12:21, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, no. We don't apply protection because it might be needed. It is applied based on current disruption and the history of protection. Indefinite semi protection almost always outlives its usefulness while preventing the vast majority of Wikipedians from being able to edit the given article. Wikipedia remains the encyclopedia anyone can edit. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:27, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, then i reccomend temporary semi protecting Yasuko Watanabe's murder page, there is some unsourced edits days ago. Pixiepinkiel (talk) 12:31, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, no. Please make requests for page protection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Increase.
- Thanks. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:50, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, then i reccomend temporary semi protecting Yasuko Watanabe's murder page, there is some unsourced edits days ago. Pixiepinkiel (talk) 12:31, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, no. We don't apply protection because it might be needed. It is applied based on current disruption and the history of protection. Indefinite semi protection almost always outlives its usefulness while preventing the vast majority of Wikipedians from being able to edit the given article. Wikipedia remains the encyclopedia anyone can edit. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:27, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Already protected. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:17, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Why Wikiepdia's semi protected pages are males?
[edit]I need the reason, males get indefinite protection while females dont. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pixiepinkiel (talk • contribs)
- @Pixiepinkie: Not aware they did. I've already explained that , let me say it flat out, I have learned to never indefinitely semi protect a page, regardless of the gender or lack there of, of the subject. We are not protecting males or females. We are protecting encyclopedia articles from disruption. Per WP:ADMINACCT, if you have a problem with my admin actions, please start a thread at WP:AN. Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:16, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. As I said above, and which you have not done, please request protection if that is your desire at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Increase. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
A simple question
[edit]@Deepfriedokra:, as I am working heavily in the citation as per your and mentor's guidance, am I now eligible for The Citation Barnstar? :) - Signed by NeverTry4Me Talk 06:42, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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Please take on my unblock condition
[edit]@Deepfriedokra: I must admit that your faith in me and assistance helped me a lot to be an active editor here in Wiki. It's you who had faith in me and I was working as per your assistance and conditions. To date, after your condition, I have achieved a little goal of 9 accepted articles submitted through AFC after you unblocked me with conditions that I still honor.
I guess I have proved my eligibility for AFC by now.
I'm requesting you to review my backlog and assist me further.
Your kind assistance and guidance is much awaited. - Signed by NeverTry4Me Talk 09:39, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Good work, but not till Sept. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:43, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
IP socks of blocked user:Basrasaab
[edit]Sir, the recently blocked User:Basrasaab (ANI cases [68], [69]) started making simialr disruptive edits in the now unprotected articles of Shiv Dayal Singh and Jaimal Singh using IP socks. I'd like to request page protection for these articles. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:13, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:28, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
A disruption only account, BaderBad
[edit]This user made only 30+ edits. [70]. A revert without consensus [71]. Here are their previous edits on same page: [72],[73],[74],[75] - while these could be human rights violations, sources do not describe them as "war crimes"; the user did not bother to justify this edit on talk. The user was warned about DS in this area (1st diff/edit was made after warning). This is obviously not a new user. Based on behavior (following and reverting edits by VM, the choice of username), I suspect this is a sock of User:Icewhiz, but that is not a hard evidence. I therefore did not make an SPI report. My very best wishes (talk) 12:25, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Another similar account is this who made this edit [76]. But again, there are way too many throwaway accounts who follow and revert edits by VM on various pages. My very best wishes (talk) 02:36, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
Keep Texas Beautiful
[edit]Hi there!
I am a student at the University of Texas at Austin writing a page on the non profit here in Austin called Keep Texas Beautiful, but I was alerted that a previous article with the same name had been deleted already. Can you fill me in with any guidelines I should follow?
Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nalhomsi85 (talk • contribs) 15:31, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Nalhomsi85: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia-- subjects of articles must meet notability guidelines, such as WP:NCORP with reliable sources which are unconnected with the subject and which provide verifiable information. Someone unconnected with the subject needs to have written a great deal about the subject.. Information on content and common pitfalls to avoid can be located here and here, however be aware that this is not an exhaustive list. Pages can sometimes avoid these pitfalls and still be seen as an ad copy or unambiguously promotional, particularly if the editor appears to be a paid editor or has some other conflict of interest. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:45, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
Protection for a page
[edit]Hello,
the page of List_of_equipment_of_the_Ukrainian_Ground_Forces has been consistently disruptively edited by what seems to be a sockpuppet user. The account was only created today and these are their first edits. Would you be able to re-protect the page as its protection has expired?
Thanks --Basedosaurus (talk) 17:28, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Misunderstanding with courtesy vanishing
[edit]WP:VANISH is for those who are not under any active community or arbcom restriction. It is not for those who are already under 1 arbcom restriction, going through block over violation of the arbcom restriction and sock puppetry block[77] and is now being subjected to more restrictions. You must undo your courtesy vanishing of SquareInARoundHole. TolWol56 (talk) 17:05, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your concern. This already under discussion in a different venue. Will likely undo. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:03, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- And if you watchlisted their original user talk, you know renaming and vanishing aren't all they are cracked up to be. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:04, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Arbitration enforcement log
[edit]Would it be inappropriate for me as a non-admin to edit Wikipedia:Arbitration enforcement log/2022#Kurds and Kurdistan to add Persecution of Yazidis by Kurds? I'm asking you since you were the admin who protected the article. --Semsûrî (talk) 22:33, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Semsûrî If I'd done it under ArbEnforcement, I'd have logged it. So it should not be so logged.
- And no, you should not edit that page if you did not impose an Arb Enforcement. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:36, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Persistent disruptive edits with IPs on one more page
[edit]Hello, I hope you are doing fine. I saw you have been active in protecting pages related to Radhasoami sect against the persistent disruptive edits by IPs. I appreciate it and if you feel it appropriate, can you also semi-protect Charan Singh (Sant) page? I went to RPP for this, but it was declined there. Regards. Lightbluerain (Talk💬 Contribs✏️) 02:32, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi DFO, would you protect this page again, rev/delete the vandalism, and consider blocking the IP range? Whichever you think most appropriate. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:D869 (talk) 22:32, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- The protection would result in collateral damage, and User(s) blocked. for two months Please let me know if they get around the block. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:43, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Great. They've been a real peach, and not just at this article. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:D869 (talk) 00:03, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Arbitration case opened
[edit]You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct_in_deletion-related_editing. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct_in_deletion-related_editing/Evidence. Please add your evidence by July 9, 2022, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct_in_deletion-related_editing/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, firefly ( t · c ) 11:21, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
[edit]The Admin's Barnstar | |
For handling all those UTRS appeals. You seem to be the most active admin there. Scorpions13256 (talk) 22:40, 19 June 2022 (UTC) |
- As much as a love to bask in adulation, @Yamla: has me beat. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:43, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I already gave him one for on-wiki unblock requests. I don't know why it took me so long to give you one. Scorpions13256 (talk) 22:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- No problem. All Barnstars gratefully apprciated. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:07, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I already gave him one for on-wiki unblock requests. I don't know why it took me so long to give you one. Scorpions13256 (talk) 22:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
User:Basrasaab IP sock back
[edit]Looks like banned User:Basrasaab is back with their disruptions immediately after PP expiration in these articles. Request protection in Jagat Singh, Sawan Singh, Sant Mat, Contemporary Sant Mat movements. Regards - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
User(s) blocked., Semi-protected --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:10, 20 June 2022 (UTC) @Fylindfotberserk: I wish I could deputize users to perform single actions in time of need . . .
- Sir, protection expired yesterday, Basrasaab is back with his disruptions at Radha Soami Satsang Beas. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:38, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Bloody Hell Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:42, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Block evasion by Scudddd
[edit]41.13.13.14 (talk · contribs)
The editor is block evasion [78] [79]. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 18:28, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Kobi Arad
[edit]I would appreciate if you can review this draft and provide any feedback on whether there are any issues. It seems many admins are against a new paid editor making a new page and I can understand their reasons, but even if I have made mistakes I need to start some place and if this draft is really terrible, I will advice my client to hire a paid editor that has more experience than me (someone who has a track record of accepted pages). My plan is to contribute more edits, so I won't be here just for this client. I would appreciate if you can spend a few minutes and let me know what you think. Dwnloda (talk) 07:53, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the thought, but I don't do that much anymore. As long as it's not blatant advertising, I just say "meh." I'm back to bed in a few. Considering the past problems, you'd want someone with a better eye than mine. Any (talk page watcher)'s wanna take a crack at it? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:04, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
I was commenting and you closed the request
[edit]My 2 accounts and 2 IP address have been sock puppets. I would like to reply for all
1) 1st sock puppet TheGorav :- I already mentioned I created it after Casetoo article got deleted. I think that article got deleted because I created my own page so I try from another account. 2) sock puppets GoravSharma0245 : It was my old account that I created 8 months ago. I leave it because of username. But after got blocked I re logged in to request unblock but it also got blocked. 3) 2 IP address:- From both IP address I try to appeal for unblock
Replied from friend browser on behalf of User:Thegoravsharma 117.98.112.254 (talk) 08:48, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, appeal via your account, not evading your block. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:52, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- TBH, I'd had enough of your malarkey. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:55, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Disruptive new editor
[edit]Hello, hope you are well, this new editor [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bishopdoesit]] has already been warned few weeks ago, but they continue to remove sourced material and ignore warnings, can you please do something about it, the amount of removed text in article is already getting problematic, like this example [[80]]. Thank you. Theonewithreason (talk) 20:53 25.June 2022 (UTC)
- They obviously continue to go at it, [[81]] obviously not stopping. Theonewithreason (talk) 20:57 25.June 2022 (UTC)
- They have been blocked, but still thank you.Theonewithreason (talk) 21:57 25.June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you!
[edit]Beyond My Ken (talk) 15:42, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Always welcome. Glad it worked. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]For World War II casualties of the Soviet Union page The Ip user is still adding their pov and or to the page such as (That means, dear EnWiki readers, that you are also being deprived of true figures as those of the present Russian military losses in the Ukraine).[82].
I did ask for page protection to stop the pov pushing or. [83]
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frustrating
[edit]While it may be a language barrier issue with our sock master and his alleged bot puppet, I wonder whether it is a language barrier created to bewilder others. They have shown a reluctance to engage unless led by the nose. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:21, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: Yes. We cannot know. I might have misjudged them. I don't know if they are just over exuberant of if there is something more. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:31, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- c:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems is a great place to start. Or a steward request for global locks, if that level of escalation is appropriate.
- I'm learning my way around Commons, and AFC here has led to my following rubbish there and nominating swathes of ordure for deletion there 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:10, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I've just done better than that and lodged a suggestion that Commons admins investigate, pinging you to the correct noticeboard. I try to tread very lightly there. The rules are very different from here. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:20, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I agree, I basically only pop my head up for speedies, a hoax, and uploading pictures of my rabbits. Luckily, with the hoax I posted about it was taken care of fairly quick and painlessly. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:28, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- @ScottishFinnishRadish It's well worth becoming better acquainted with Commons. There are tools available, for example, to look at and nominate for various different deletion types any and all of a miscreant uploader's uploads en masse. One has to qualify for a trusted user status there. I forget which, but you can check my permissions there and consider what you might choose to ask for.
- By no means a copyright expert I am content for an experienced admin there to say that I m incorrect. Mostly, I get it right. Mostly the dodgy uploads are nuked. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:35, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm lucky enough where I haven't found any editors there with a huge amount of uploads that I was suspicious about, so I've been content to just copyvio tag them. As far as I know I've only gotten one wrong so far, out of about 50. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:39, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- posted to com:an --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:21, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- The admins over there often surprise me because the rules there are so different. It's good to be surprised, though. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 19:27, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like they did nothing. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- That, too, is not unusual. They are hot on copyvios and licencing, but the Commons objectives are so different from Wikipedia's that this is not unusual, exactly 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 14:46, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: My entire Wikiexperience is increasingly frustrating. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:31, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- We appear to have been enjoying the same frustrations since March 2006, though I haven't been active for the entire period. I choose to find the frustrations vastly amusing, and I allow them to inform the real life frustrations I encounter. I know better how to deal with real life because of the nature of Wikipedia.
- Never considering ownership of the mop and bucket except to choose not to have one has probably been my best decision here
- A certain type of weirdness, coupled with persistence, those have been the things that let me have fun here.
- Don't get me started on Wikiquote! 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 15:49, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: My entire Wikiexperience is increasingly frustrating. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:31, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- That, too, is not unusual. They are hot on copyvios and licencing, but the Commons objectives are so different from Wikipedia's that this is not unusual, exactly 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 14:46, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like they did nothing. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- The admins over there often surprise me because the rules there are so different. It's good to be surprised, though. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 19:27, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- posted to com:an --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:21, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm lucky enough where I haven't found any editors there with a huge amount of uploads that I was suspicious about, so I've been content to just copyvio tag them. As far as I know I've only gotten one wrong so far, out of about 50. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:39, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I agree, I basically only pop my head up for speedies, a hoax, and uploading pictures of my rabbits. Luckily, with the hoax I posted about it was taken care of fairly quick and painlessly. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:28, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I've just done better than that and lodged a suggestion that Commons admins investigate, pinging you to the correct noticeboard. I try to tread very lightly there. The rules are very different from here. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:20, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Archives
[edit]I have a lot of old talk page messages in my history, but most of them are not in archive pages because I deleted them before adding ClueBotIII to my talk page. Since I am an IP, I do not believe I can create individual monthly archives for all the messages in my talk page, do you have any other ways for me to retrieve them and get them to the proper archives? Thanks, 47.227.95.73 (talk) 00:13, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Greater Sylhet article
[edit]Hi, this article's protection has expired and the same disruptive user is vandalising again. Can you please protect it again? Thanks. UserNumber (talk) 11:32, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- please report at RfPP or ANI or discuss on talk Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:06, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
personal attack
[edit]just because it makes you angry doesn't mean it's a personal attack. Doug never told me he didn't like it before he blocked me. This makes no sense. Where's the personal attack?Willbb234 18:47, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Willbb234: Thanks for your note, but I thin your talk page is the palce to discuss your block, or at WP:AN as it is a partial block. Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:51, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, but I have attempted to discuss with Doug in the past and he has either been very short with me or ignored me and so I am finding it hard to get answers to my questions. Willbb234 18:53, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Per WP:PB, there is always WP:AN. You might want to read the instructions there. Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:57, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, but I have attempted to discuss with Doug in the past and he has either been very short with me or ignored me and so I am finding it hard to get answers to my questions. Willbb234 18:53, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
looks like promotion
[edit]Thank you for understanding this fact. But please tell me how can I sign in to the talk page, whether it's by my user name or by my name. Fifa1991 (talk) 12:45, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Don't know what you mean as you just posted to my talk page. You should be able to edit your talk as you have edited mine and Cullen's Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:48, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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re: the "i can't disclose" guy
[edit]See also this, this (and I'll have a few others in a sec.) They're either working closely together or the same person. PRAXIDICAE🌈 16:31, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah. Ima decline as UPE -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:32, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- reblocked. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:41, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Praxidicae: I was gonna ask for a list of "classmates." -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:46, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- reblocked. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:41, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2022
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).
- An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
- An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.
- The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
- Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)
- The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.
- You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
- Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
- Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold ⇧ Shift between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.
I made something
[edit]Well, started something. And I've had the temerity to put it in your userspace, since you gave me the idea, and you're the face of unblocks, and thus probably have more to add than I do. (Feel free to move it to mine if you'd rather. :)
) User:Deepfriedokra/unblock questionnaire. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 15:14, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- In my Seinfeld voice, but I don't want to be the face of unblocks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:17, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Ah ha ha, much too late for that, Deepfriedokra. :) --Yamla (talk) 16:46, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- (whimper) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:49, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Ah ha ha, much too late for that, Deepfriedokra. :) --Yamla (talk) 16:46, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
FYI
[edit]per your unblock here NT4M was subject to a topic ban which amounted to requiring them to go through AFC. They've since violated that multiple times today, by accepting their very own drafts repeatedly. Informing you so you can block or do whatever is necessary. PRAXIDICAE🌈 23:15, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Jeopardy. Please page him here. Tschau. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:31, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- huh? PRAXIDICAE🌈 23:32, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- @NeverTry4Me: Please see above. @Praxidicae: Jeopardy!, NT4M-- this is the second time in about a week. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:38, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- I see by the strikeout they are blocked.😞 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:30, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- @NeverTry4Me: Please see above. @Praxidicae: Jeopardy!, NT4M-- this is the second time in about a week. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:38, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- huh? PRAXIDICAE🌈 23:32, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
Le sigh
[edit]I see our friend imploded while I was away. A shame, truly. He means well but does not appear to have the competence required to edit the English Wikipedia. Thanks for handling. I came back to so many notifications, all the pings. Alas I have never figured out how to edit from my phone and was happily in the land of no internet. Hope you're otherwise well. Star Mississippi 16:18, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Star Mississippi: Happy to do it. They sent emails. Have some off-wiki issues. Will see how they return. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:21, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- I think I can lift the AfC only restriction if they can go another 4 weeks with another aexplosion -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:22, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Please no. PRAXIDICAE🌈 16:26, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah sorry Okra, I agree with Prax here. I don't think they have the language skills (reading sourcing, understanding guidelines more than writing) to create articles without external review. I remain concerned about their badgering about acceptances and refusal to disclose COI as specific elements of their temperament/conduct issues. They apologize and overreact in the same way all the time. That said, I wouldn't stand in the way of your decision if you find it to be correct. I'd just imagine we're going to be back in a mess sooner rather than later. Star Mississippi 19:38, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, there was confidential stuff I cannot share. In the emails. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:50, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Obviously I can't comment on the conent of the emails, which for all I know may completely change things, but on the basis of what I can see I would be with Praxidicae. JBW (talk) 13:40, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Waiting for them to explode (or not) on their talk page. Tamzin's block expires in four days. Primefac removed AFCH for self serving. My only argument to remove the "only via AfC" restriction is, "yeah, but the submissions are being accepted (and not by them)". We'll see how they do. I never thought of NOTCOMPTIBLE as meaning "too fragile". But that might be the case. Or like so many of us, they might need to learn to live with disappointment, I have. Clearly, there is too much opposition to removing the restriction to remove it w/o taking it to AN. The important thing for NT4M is to avoid another indef. They won't come back from that. And, to be realistic, they have been, are, and will be a time sink. I ain't nobody's mother, and I gave up rescuing people thirty years ago. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:48, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- (As tamzin was kind enough to make the block, I could hand the of to xir.) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:50, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Waiting for them to explode (or not) on their talk page. Tamzin's block expires in four days. Primefac removed AFCH for self serving. My only argument to remove the "only via AfC" restriction is, "yeah, but the submissions are being accepted (and not by them)". We'll see how they do. I never thought of NOTCOMPTIBLE as meaning "too fragile". But that might be the case. Or like so many of us, they might need to learn to live with disappointment, I have. Clearly, there is too much opposition to removing the restriction to remove it w/o taking it to AN. The important thing for NT4M is to avoid another indef. They won't come back from that. And, to be realistic, they have been, are, and will be a time sink. I ain't nobody's mother, and I gave up rescuing people thirty years ago. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:48, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Obviously I can't comment on the conent of the emails, which for all I know may completely change things, but on the basis of what I can see I would be with Praxidicae. JBW (talk) 13:40, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, there was confidential stuff I cannot share. In the emails. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:50, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah sorry Okra, I agree with Prax here. I don't think they have the language skills (reading sourcing, understanding guidelines more than writing) to create articles without external review. I remain concerned about their badgering about acceptances and refusal to disclose COI as specific elements of their temperament/conduct issues. They apologize and overreact in the same way all the time. That said, I wouldn't stand in the way of your decision if you find it to be correct. I'd just imagine we're going to be back in a mess sooner rather than later. Star Mississippi 19:38, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Please no. PRAXIDICAE🌈 16:26, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- I think I can lift the AfC only restriction if they can go another 4 weeks with another aexplosion -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:22, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Short Note
[edit]The Barnstar of Good Humor | ||
When we countered on AN the previous time, I took you in a different light, but I subsequently discovered you're a good volunteer here. I just wanted to say keep up the fantastic job and keep assisting, and I apologize for upsetting you earlier. DIVINE (talk) 18:04, 6 August 2022 (UTC) |
Please help.
[edit]Hello, I'm new to wikipedia. Ive created two articles, Sruthy Sithara, the title winner of Miss Trans Global and Heidi Saadiya, the first transgender journalist from Kerala. There are so many articles are online about both. Now, one of the admin user:Deb, deleted both the pages without any notification. To my knowledge, what he did is unethical, against wikipedia guidelines. Kindly please help me to get those article back. See this and this. Imperfect Boy (talk) 16:32, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Imperfect Boy: Nope. I'm the only admin I know who notifies when I delete. She did in fact notifiy when she draftified Draft:Heidi Saadiya. It had been tagged for deletion as purely promotional, but she moved to draft space so you could work on it there. The first time you inappropriately moved Sruthy Sithara to article space, she moved it back. The second time, it got deleted. You need to stop moving your drafts to article space. Please feel free to request review of the Sruthy Sithara deletion at WP:DRV. And before you sling accusations around, you'd better make sure your understanding of guidelines is correct. Clearly, they are not. Especially moving drafts to article space after they were moved back. Please read and heed the warnings on your talk page. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:47, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Орден для вас!
[edit]Орден вежливости | |
Can you help me, please Википисатель (talk) 16:39, 7 August 2022 (UTC) |
- Sorry, I do not understand this language. English only please. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:48, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Time travel?
[edit][84] "The page UNIVERSAL FOUNDATION has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia"? Yes, it has, the best part of two hours after the time of posting that message. 🥴 JBW (talk) 19:15, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Better late than never? My mind's going -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:16, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. must be time travel--explains the dizziness -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:19, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Explain the reason for deletion
[edit]Hi, I am not able to understand why the page I have created has been deleted? The reason shown for deletion is advertising, please help? 14.99.62.30 (talk) 09:43, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Because it was WP:G11, I'd suppose. Did I not leave you my standard, "I deleted a page you created," message? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- You must be hopping around. I see no deleted contribs and no talk page messages. For this IP. What page do you speak of? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Subodh_Narain_Agrawal#Career%3A, Talking about this 14.99.62.30 (talk) 11:31, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Definitely IP hopping around. That was the second deletion for WP:G11 in a couple of days. Will leave my standard deletion notice on your current talk. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:35, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- What needs to be changed? Can you help? 14.99.62.30 (talk) 11:38, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Best to follow and read the linked information. Needs to be rewritten from scratch with information from reliable sources independent of the subject an din neutral language. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:41, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- I will change the text but is everything else fine? 14.99.62.30 (talk) 11:41, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- content and sourcing are always the biggest concern with new article creation -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:42, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Notability and other aspects are fine, only the text needs to be changed? 14.99.62.30 (talk) 11:46, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher). Notability and other aspects are absolutely not fine. Frankly, I believe this person is simply not sufficiently notable to have their own Wikipedia article (see WP:BIO), so even rewriting the content won't be sufficient. I also strongly believe you have a conflict of interest (WP:COI) with regard to this person. --Yamla (talk) 12:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the explaination. 14.99.62.30 (talk) 12:27, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- I have now confirmed you have an undisclosed conflict of interest and have been engaging in WP:UPE. This is a serious problem. --Yamla (talk) 12:30, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the explaination. 14.99.62.30 (talk) 12:27, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher). Notability and other aspects are absolutely not fine. Frankly, I believe this person is simply not sufficiently notable to have their own Wikipedia article (see WP:BIO), so even rewriting the content won't be sufficient. I also strongly believe you have a conflict of interest (WP:COI) with regard to this person. --Yamla (talk) 12:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Notability and other aspects are fine, only the text needs to be changed? 14.99.62.30 (talk) 11:46, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- content and sourcing are always the biggest concern with new article creation -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:42, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- What needs to be changed? Can you help? 14.99.62.30 (talk) 11:38, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Definitely IP hopping around. That was the second deletion for WP:G11 in a couple of days. Will leave my standard deletion notice on your current talk. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:35, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Subodh_Narain_Agrawal#Career%3A, Talking about this 14.99.62.30 (talk) 11:31, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- You must be hopping around. I see no deleted contribs and no talk page messages. For this IP. What page do you speak of? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
IoE AI
[edit]I requested for username change please let me know that what i can make article now with this description.
IoE AI ( Internet of Everything AI Inc.) is an international integrated technology company headquartered in Singapore. ioE AI, producess and sells high-tech products and services such as networking hardware, software, and communication devices, and penetrates other technology markets such as Internet of Things, domain security, and energy management through AI artificial intelligence. Bot786 (talk) 21:54, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note. Best, thoroughest advice I can give is in the links of the deletion notice I left. I will look at the renaming. Best. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:57, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Please reactivate Fig Tree Hall page
[edit]Hi, why did you delete our Fig Tree Hall page? Please undelete this as we need this back up online. CollEditor (talk) 02:21, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- @CollEditor: Who is we? What is your connection to that page? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:40, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- I am a staff from UNSW Student Accommodation office and Fig Tree Hall is one of our operated accommodation for our student residencies - https://accommodation.unsw.edu.au/colleges/fig-tree-hall according to the history thread, you have deleted our page in 2017, please advise if you are a staff member from UNSW. CollEditor (talk) 03:08, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Ha! Thought something like that. Please read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID. Why would I be a staff member from UNSW? What has that to do with anything? FWIW, the draft was deleted as abandoned. I have restored the previous versions in the edit history. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:14, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- I am a staff from UNSW Student Accommodation office and Fig Tree Hall is one of our operated accommodation for our student residencies - https://accommodation.unsw.edu.au/colleges/fig-tree-hall according to the history thread, you have deleted our page in 2017, please advise if you are a staff member from UNSW. CollEditor (talk) 03:08, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Nicesunnyday19
[edit]Thank you for your UTRS review of this user. I think you've seen what happened, upon a simple revert and pointing them to a style guide agreement they immediately went from 1 to 100 with edit summaries accusing me of being a child abuser, and then socking to drop attack messages at my talk page claiming reports of racism, child abuse and transphobia. Canterbury Tail talk 12:35, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- My pleasure. Funny how the "nice" user names sometimes go to not-nice people. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:24, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah always the same. Just like Truth usernames are never interested in reality. Canterbury Tail talk 13:43, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- Too true. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:47, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah always the same. Just like Truth usernames are never interested in reality. Canterbury Tail talk 13:43, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
Request your attention here
[edit]Dear Admin, please look into it [[85]], here contribution [[86]] after being consistently warned by many editors for their recent edits, the account seems to be following their own path without listening to others. Regards Akalanka820 (talk) 14:48, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like Discospinster got that one. -- Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:22, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
since a few days
[edit]...I was meaning to say that your current signature is boring. Deepfriedokra was cool. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:53, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Article protection
[edit]Hi. I just wanted to let you know that, as expected, the disruption and obvious socking resumed as soon as the semi-protection of the Capture of Fez (1554) article expired. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 00:11, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- bluudy el -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:16, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Semi-protected -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:18, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Many thanks. Let's hope that's enough to keep them at bay. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 00:19, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Semi-protected -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:18, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
2022 House Wyoming
[edit]Hello. I just still see the Dan Crenshaw still listed at the 2022 United States House of Representatives election in Wyoming article. Can you please remove it? NBS13QRS (talk) 10:02, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) See this. Lectonar (talk) 10:04, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- @NBS13QRS: Please discuss content and sourcing on article talk page. The article is fully protected for 24 hours in order for disputants to-- discuss content and sourcing. Thanks! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:07, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Extended discussion at Talk:2022 United States House of Representatives election in Wyoming#Protected edit request on 15 August 2022. Remove Dan Crenshaw from Liz Cheney endorsement. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 12:08, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like that is controversial content that resulted in an edit war. I see no clear consensus either way. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:11, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Extended discussion at Talk:2022 United States House of Representatives election in Wyoming#Protected edit request on 15 August 2022. Remove Dan Crenshaw from Liz Cheney endorsement. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 12:08, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- @NBS13QRS: Please discuss content and sourcing on article talk page. The article is fully protected for 24 hours in order for disputants to-- discuss content and sourcing. Thanks! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:07, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Something
[edit]The Helping Hand Barnstar | ||
I must admit it. Thank you for everything. -✍ NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 06:29, 16 August 2022 (UTC) |
le sigh...
[edit]this spammy garbage is back again. PRAXIDICAE🌈 14:04, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Speedied?!??! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE FREQUENT BUS CONNECTIONS EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY UNTIL LATE AT NIGHT?! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:07, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- 🤦♂️🚌🚌🚌 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Three cheers for Lectonar! Hoch soll er leben, hoch soll er leben, drei mal hoch! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:05, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- 🤦♂️🚌🚌🚌 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
UTRS Appeal #61954
[edit]Honestly at this point, when Fangusu requests yet another unblock, it might be time to restrict her from UTRS all together. The likelihood she's ever allowed to edit is extremely low, and honest I don't think letting her back is a good thing. I've moved the clock, yet again, to 1 year from today, seeing as this is the 2nd request since Yamla told her none till next year. RickinBaltimore (talk) 20:07, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- She has earned a UTRS ban. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:07, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Done -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:10, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- I like the part where she posted the same thing three times. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:12, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- and now in UTRS! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:28, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! RickinBaltimore (talk) 20:29, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- My pleasure! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:31, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- I meant IRC, but she left after posting the same thing again -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:32, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- My pleasure! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:31, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! RickinBaltimore (talk) 20:29, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- and now in UTRS! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:28, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- I like the part where she posted the same thing three times. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:12, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Done -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:10, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
PP expired
[edit]As soon as your protection expired here another SPA joined us to do...whatever the fuck it is they're trying to do. I'm not even sure. PRAXIDICAE🌈 19:16, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- Never are. nor are they -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:53, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- Semi-protected. In the words of Steve Rogers, I can do this all day. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:56, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Page deletion
[edit]Hi, earlier you deleted one of the pages that I was drafting. I agree with the reasoning for deletion but would like the chance to edit the page to improve it. Because the page is now deleted, I don't see a way to edit it any longer. How can I go about accessing the page again to salvage some of its content? Jroy297 (talk) 02:08, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Who is Komschos? They edited the page last. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:25, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I have bad news. Looks like most or all was copied and pasted from https://acceducate.org/about-us/. Wikipedia can not accept content copyrighted elsewhere. Looks like it is cited to the About Us page. That is why it was deleted as spam. About Us pages, mission statements, and vision statements are inherently promotional by nature. It will need to be totally rewritten with content cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." It must also meet WP:NCORP, the inclusion requirement for organizations. I will place the deletion notice on your talk page that I placed on that of Komchos. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:34, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Jiivi 2
[edit]The film has now released - and meets NFILM. Page has been updated. Could you unblock the article page, please? Neutral Fan (talk) 09:44, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Neutral Fan (talk · contribs) Well, snap. I thought I extended confirm protected that. (early alzheimers?) 'tis Ymblanter wot done the job. Block notice said to request unprotection at WP:RfPP. I guess you could ask Ymblanter. Sorry. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:52, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Article Protection
[edit]Hi 👋 Please grant permanent Extended Confirmed User Protection to Stateless Nations Article so that only Extended Confirmed Users can edit it. Shubhdeep Sandhu (talk) 04:17, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Declined – Content dispute. Please use the article's talk page or other forms of dispute resolution. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:15, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
removed account
[edit]hey im wondering if i can start editing again and how can i create an auto biography page AnkoTattoos (talk) 18:56, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
- Please do not. Please do not continue to promote yourself. Please find non conflict of interest edits to make. Please read the messages and follow the links I left on your talk page. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:31, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
Include Sindh in list of Panipuri states.
[edit]Golgappa or better known as Panipuri in Sindhi is being eaten in Sindh since a long time.Why was the Sindh ommited from the list and instead of it a language like Urdu was added. The Vandalist gave the stupid logic that only those who speak urdu eats panipuri but the Sindhis ,that are a 5000 year old civilisation can't even have a local version of the Golgappa to which they call as Panipuri.For proof there is even an image of a Sindhi seller selling panipuri next to dal pakwan (another famous Sindhi food) in this page only which can be rechecked. Therefore I request the intellectuals of this page to Please update the list and add Sindh in list and stop spreading misinformation to the masses. SaifSindhi (talk) 04:15, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- @SaifSindhi:Thanks for your note. I'm afraid I have no idea about that. Please discuss content and sourcing on the article talk page with other article stakeholders. "All content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." Best, -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:32, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Just as I suspected...
[edit]here we are again. PICKLEDICAE🥒 13:29, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Moved back, move protected, user blocked 1 week. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:59, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
UPE
[edit]I'm not sure if this was just a rhetorical question, but in my experience undisclosed paid editors don't disclose for one of two reasons: they don't know about the rules (in which case a quick discussion usually resolves things); or they're evading an existing block. We very often come across profiles on freelancing websites that credibly claim to have editing histories stretching back years, but which we can only link to recently-created accounts, and the only explanation I have for this is they're some long-forgotten sockpuppeteer. I also strongly suspect that the more thoroughly-blocked paid editing outfits (like WP:ABTACH) have started subcontracting out work to people who don't know they're breaking Wikipedia's rules, blurring the line between the two categories. Anyway, thanks for reviewing these unblock requests; I know it's a bit difficult with the references to VRT tickets you can't see. – Joe (talk) 14:33, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Joe Roe: Makes sense. The question was mostly directed the user, as they keep talking around giving a straight answer. I mean, even I see it. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:38, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- It's always the same... "Me? Paid editing? Never! Please list exactly what gave me away so I can try to explain my way out of it and/or avoid doing it with my next sock". – Joe (talk) 14:51, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Protection against LTA
[edit]Hey, thank you for protecting Christianity in Norway, and coming in clutch in general at numerous different occasions when dealing with vandalism and page protection. Any possibility you could also add protection to Religion in Iceland? The same Indonesia based, IP swapping editor is continuously edit warring there as well. TylerBurden (talk) 16:54, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Semi-protected -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Well that was quick, much appreciated! TylerBurden (talk) 16:58, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
I am letting you know that User:Jarebare821 just broke three-revert rule on AustinShow claiming it was good faith Edit but i am not sure if it was a good faith edit at all. Chip3004 (talk) 17:13, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- content dispute? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:14, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- I sincerely apologize. I had no idea if I was breaking the rules and I will stop editing that page until further notice. Jarebare821 (talk) 17:17, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Already partial blocked. Please feel free to discuss content and sourcing on Talk:AustinShow -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:21, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- I sincerely apologize. I had no idea if I was breaking the rules and I will stop editing that page until further notice. Jarebare821 (talk) 17:17, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Sock
[edit]Found new sockpuppet. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/NavjotSR Soundbass (talk) 07:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, I don't much SPI anymore. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:08, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
you were right
[edit]to be concerned about another outburst, fortunately for you and others, it wasn't on-wiki this time, it was on IRC and was actually rather telling about where their editing is heading (and it's not good for them.) PICKLEDICAE🥒 13:55, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- Bozhe moi! Sometimes I think the (hyper) civility is a thin and cracked façade. If it was recent, it might be in my scrollback. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:06, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- was it in -help? cannot see it. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:07, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
[87] [88] WP:NOTHERE. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 18:30, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- User(s) blocked. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:53, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Deepfriedokra and I hope you have an excellent day. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 19:40, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
Unblock request
[edit]You accepted the unblock request of that editor [89] but they are still blocked. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:31, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
Redirect deletion for a talk page
[edit]Hi, I'm from fr.wiki and I don't really know where to ask this so please don't mind me asking you as I saw that you had interacted with the concerned person.
I renamed my account a few months ago (see here and I just noticed that User talk:Pharma redirects to another person talk page. Thus, I can't access to my own talk page which is annoying. Would you please delete this redirect? Best regards, Pharma (talk) 20:56, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Litlok: ?? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:48, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Done -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:10, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
A comment that might need some attention
[edit]As an experienced admin, can you take a look at that comment? While discussing a living person, an academic named Pellumb Xhufi, that editor says "Such nationalist authors are a dime a dozen in the Balkans, especially in Albania which is a notorious hotbed of historical revisionism and irredentism. While they may provide a certain level of amusement, they should not take precedence over established academic sources of international significance.". Idk if that comment regarding a living person should stay on Wikipedia. Some days ago the same editor was warned by an admin for making unconstructive comments on the same academic [90] and had their comment modified [91]. The admin also warned them about making unconstructive comments on other editors' perceived ethnicity. In any case, should the comment be removed as per BLP rules or it is not problematic? Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:42, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- As there is an admin familiar with this editor, please let them know. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, Abbot! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Drmies said some days ago that he did not want to interact with that editor again [92]. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Might wanna post to WP:ANI -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Drmies said some days ago that he did not want to interact with that editor again [92]. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, Abbot! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- I have been thinking about filing a report at the AE noticeboard. But in this case I am not sure if I should include the comment above, i.e. I am not sure whether it is a breach of BLP rules or not. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- While it is your right to remove posts from your tp, is there any particular reason why you reverted my comment [93]? Thanks, Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:50, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- That's wierd. Let's see if i can get it back -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:51, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- I was gonna say whatever works. Must have been distracted by an on going drama elsewhere and misclicked. Sorry for the confusion -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:53, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- It could be a Rollback malfunction. Some days ago I reverted unintentionally due to Twinkle malfunction. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:55, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah. I'll blame TWINKLE. Honestly, I went no where near a revert button. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:57, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Twinkle is not in its best days; last week Twinkle did not post a 3RR report I wanted it to file. On that editor, I will include that comment in the AE report. It is part of a general trend to insult/highlight perceived opponents' ethnicity so in that context it is sth admins should take a look at. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:02, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah. I'll blame TWINKLE. Honestly, I went no where near a revert button. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:57, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- It could be a Rollback malfunction. Some days ago I reverted unintentionally due to Twinkle malfunction. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:55, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- I was gonna say whatever works. Must have been distracted by an on going drama elsewhere and misclicked. Sorry for the confusion -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:53, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- That's wierd. Let's see if i can get it back -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:51, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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[Wikipedia] Innotech Performance Exhaust page deletion
[edit]Hi Deepfriedokra,
I'm Ian, Sorry for bothering you. May i ask about the detail reason of "Innotech Performance Exhaust page deletion"?
Before i sent the draft, i had search lots of information about Wikipedia content policy and how to build a Wikipedia page. Also, I had referred to the article of Akrapovič, Novitec, AMG, etc, that have successfully published for a period of time, according to the uploaded format and text statement.
Can you please tell me how to fix it or where I need special attention on "Innotech Performance Exhaust" Wikipedia page? Thank you so much!
--
Best regards,
Ian Ian.ou.ipe (talk) 01:42, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- What is your relationship to User:Hakuna mama? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:02, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- She used to work in iPE. Ian.ou.ipe (talk) 02:18, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- Who is User:Hanzery? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:25, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Praxidicae: hey! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:31, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- He's a content planner who works in the company (Innotech Performance Exhaust), helping me to proofread the wikipedia content. The reason is we had built our brand in this industry (Aftermarket exhaust / wheels industry) for a long while. We would be appreciated if we are available to establish our branding in wikipedia like the brands I mentioned in above.
- if there's any issues in the content. Just feel free to let us know. We would fix it to fit the rules of wikipedia. Thank you. Ian.ou.ipe (talk) 05:43, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- Who is User:Hanzery? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:25, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- She used to work in iPE. Ian.ou.ipe (talk) 02:18, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- Will continue on your talk.
-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:18, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
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Being frustrated doesn't indicate violation of rule
[edit]@Deepfriedokra: I know, tons of complaints are against me on your floor. Due to the restriction you imposed "vetted by AFC", I have never created even a WP:GEO or WP:NPOL or WP:BIO in this period. There are reviewers for AfC but not even accepting or declining my any of drafts instead of keeping me waiting for more than 4 months. The history of this draft Draft:G Bidai is proof.
I have learned WP: THREE things. I request you to uplift the restriction as I am not creating any articles beyond AfC. I don't need NPP or other rights. I will continue with "vetted AfC", as this is not a burden for me but a burden for AFC reviewers.
Further, I declare that I use to ask for help on IRC, but I don't get a civil response instead of a denial of queries.
I, do, understand that everyone is a volunteer here. So, me, so you, and others. Please have a look through xtools, how many articles I have created after your unblock restriction.
At last, I shall clarify that I am enjoying AfC, so it's not any more burden for me. Hence Autopatrollers shouldn't be a grunt.
I will be happy with AfC reviewers only, not beyond that. -✍ NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 09:42, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's a bit disjointed, but I too am frustrated. I think most of us are. Don't IRC much anymore, but I guess they are frustrated too. I see a lot of AfC acceptances on your talk, so I would be inclined to lift the restriction. However, I would anticipate considerable resistance to me removing the AfC unilaterally, so I'm glad you don't find it overly onerous. Best -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:33, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Deepfriedokra I must obey your assistance. I never lied of of my mistakes. -✍ NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 11:59, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Username Compliance
[edit]Thanks for letting me know about the compliance issue with my username. I didn't realize this, and so I have created a new account in order to update my username. JRM Team (talk) 15:59, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Misogynistic Spafky gif
[edit]The fact that I can see that disgusting gif Spafky put on their page means it's still a media file in the Commons. Please can u check whether Spafky uploaded it and thus whether it has to be deleted, or if it's legitimately used on an article and that they got it from there? Stephanie921 (talk) 18:32, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- It is not Spafky's. I did not get gar enough to check the file information. Ima leave it for their unblock request. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:09, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not entirely sure what this means but ty for letting me know it's not Spafky's Stephanie921 (talk) 22:27, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
I should've been clearer - either a revision or 2 after the rev u linked, Spafky posted a misogynistic, sexually explicit gif at the bottom page. It was reverted after 5 months, in December 2018, by a good Samaritan Stephanie921 (talk) 19:13, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Confused about policy
[edit]Alright guvna :)
I was just having a butchers at WP:Introduction to deletion process#How to nominate a page for deletion cos I'm trying to nominate Death and state funeral of George H.W. Bush for deletion. And I saw a bit that said "This means articles, categories or templates should not be nominated in a routine fashion".
I haven't got a bloomin clue wot this means, could you help me please? Stephanie921 (talk) 21:00, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- I have no idea what that means. That subject should have sufficient coverage to meet notability. Why would you? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:11, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- Wait, did I do something wrong? I'm confused Stephanie921 (talk) 21:13, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Legh No-sigh
[edit]at wp:an -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:29, 8 September 2022 (UTC) |
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I was under your restrictions, my xtool is proof how I have learned and improved my skills to create WP:GEO, WP:BIO (important), WP:NPOL, WP:CRIMEPROJ, and many others. Hope my xtol proof is enough to satisfy you that I'm now eligible to create article as per WP:THREE. I'm pining @Tamzin: (as they helped me for countless times and I'll be always thankful for everything), @Star Mississippi: (as their doubts compelled me to do things with more efficiency}}, and @Onel5969: (I now understand how much hard work they are doing. Also, my 2 articles AfDed by them from which I got the chance to learn a lot. I admit my earlier un-CIVIL behaviors to them, back in 6/7 months.) I have created some real good articles "vetted by AfC"- a 32KB+ article Operation Bajrang - and Robin Hibu, Viplav Tripathi, G Bidai, Tapan Deka and Sajid Mir (terrorist) as WP:BIO - 2013 Jhankar Saikia mob lynching, and Lynching of Deben Dutta under WP:CRIMINALPROJ, - Ellora Vigyan Mancha and Ajmal Foundation under WP:WPORG. Rest about the stubs/starts of WP:NPOL and WP:GEOLAND - I had no other way to increase my article acceptance and prove my quality to be "an editor as WP:HERE". I know my English is not so good at typing with one hand and the other hand's two fingers is some difficulty. I would be happy if Onel5969 forgives me as they do not know about my physical status. I must send pictures of my said hand to everyone mentioned here. Onel5969 I am not an UPE as my pension to handicaped is too higher than anyone can earn here in Wiki, and my need is not broad per my physical condition (I can't move without a helper). I didn't want to wish, but I think it's time to expose my photograph and bank statements. All I want is to build Wiki, I have learned a lot from everyone here. Thanks to all of them as it's not possible to name them all. -✍ NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 09:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
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Arbitration enforcement comment
[edit]Hi Deepfriedokra! Hope you are well. I would like to request you to reconsider your suggestion to topic ban me on Arbitration enforcement noticeboard. On talk page my position to retain the disputed content has been supported by 3 other experienced users (including 2 admins). This is the first time I had been reported and I had realised where I was mistaken. I can ensure that these mentioned problems won't emerge again in the future and I will try to resolve disputes the next time in a more amicable manner and without violating copyrights. I hope you will reconsider. Thanks. Pranesh Ravikumar (talk) 04:27, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- Please do not post here. We need to keep the content on the AE thread.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:04, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
rq protection on an article
[edit]requesting for protection to be applied to the article for Woodland Cafe. Some repeat offender keeps adding the same information to it. Case in point, look at this revision that I recently reverted: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Woodland_Caf%C3%A9&oldid=1108818266 Visokor (talk) 16:36, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- Declined – Not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:40, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Would you please take a look at these edits? Sort of seems like some whitewashing. An anon is claiming it's blp issue, but I think wp:TWITTER should apply as it's Henson's own tweet(s). Henson's Twitter account was closed, but found archival hits Wayback Machine here The "J.K. Rowling" tweet here. Didn't find anything about the "Graham Linehan" tweet. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 20:08, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- A bit of an edit war going on. Adakiko (talk) 20:21, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Why my draft was deleted?
[edit]Hi @Deepfriedokra. I checked the Wikipedia's rules and believe that my article should not be deleted.
The article isn't advertising and should be considered notable (refers to multiple resources e.g. news websites), and I think @GPL93 mistakenly flagged it for G11 speedy deletion.
Can you revert the deletion and process the article approvement, and explain why was flagged and deleted? Laukstein (talk) 04:39, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Laukstein: Pretty sure I left my best explanation on your talk page. It was a mixture of promotionalism and not meeting WP:GNG, if my memory serves. Wikipedia is not the place to promote yourself. Please feel free to request undeletion at WP:DRV, though it was actually deleted twice, so I feel some confidence in having deleted it. Best. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:58, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- I certainly did not flag the draft by mistake given the promotional language used. I highly suggest editing about other topics that aren't about yourself or directly related to you as that would be editing with a conflict of interest. Best, GPL93 (talk) 11:50, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Laukstein: It was deleted under WP:G11 twice. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:15, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- I certainly did not flag the draft by mistake given the promotional language used. I highly suggest editing about other topics that aren't about yourself or directly related to you as that would be editing with a conflict of interest. Best, GPL93 (talk) 11:50, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Is the partial removal request ok?
[edit]@DeepfriedokraHi , sorry to disturb you again, but the WP:GEO and WP:NPOL which are not tough to get approved, are being too backlogged, I have decided to go to WP:AN. Despite your suggestion, I did so. Please pardon me for that. I just applied for "partial lift" not complete. Kindly forgive me for my unknowing mistakes. -✍ NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 09:21, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
- The request is your request and you already have a support.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:23, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
- As Star Mississippi says, "
There's no reason he has to have live articles (which require cleanup anyway) right now.
" - I guess she wants my AfC accepted, patrolled articles to be removed or cleaned. If so, I guess there is no point for me to be here. -✍ NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 22:02, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
- As Star Mississippi says, "
A barnstar for you!
[edit]The Admin's Barnstar | |
Thanks for your good work. Andre🚐 21:23, 8 September 2022 (UTC) |
Also, I added that note. [94] [95] [96] Andre🚐 21:29, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Problematic page, not sure if it qualifies for speedy deletion or AfD
[edit]Hey, I just saw this newly created page at Victor Olalusi. It appears to be a non-notable person and may qualify for A7 and possibly G11, or would it be better to take it to AfD? TornadoLGS (talk) 16:02, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- @TornadoLGS: Asserts significance. Is promo tone but not G11, so I guess AfD. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:14, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Looks like it got draftified in any case. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:20, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Hey
[edit]Besides the fact you probably have the coolest username on Wikipedia, I really love your approach to most inquiries and discussions that I have encountered you on. I know how much you care about giving sound advice to others here so I wanted to point something out, WP:BRD is, in fact, not mandatory. it's optional, one option. I was floored that I happen to overlook that when I was giving advice to others until it was pointed out to me. What is not optional is edit warring which you were so correct about. I still give BRD as advice for proper etiquette and how to avoid edit warring but I dropped the "have to" or "mandatory" from the advice. I just wanted to make you aware of it because it was a real shock to me as I always thought it was policy. --ARoseWolf 16:55, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- It's a policy de facto, 'cause if you don't and continue to edit war . . . . -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:15, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Jrdk1
[edit]Just a heads up: User talk:RoySmith#Royalty.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:31, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Booku
[edit]Made my last comment, detailing on a particular edit. Hope it aids :) TrangaBellam (talk) 15:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- Waiting on the other admins. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:13, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Partial block on User:25Abhi7234
[edit]Since you've performed the partial block, would you care to comment on the ANI about them? UtherSRG (talk) 15:10, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oh wait, you did. I'm blind today. ;) - UtherSRG (talk) 15:12, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
user:tamzin and [cetacean needed]
[edit]Ded. I'm literally ded. How have I never crossed paths with them, and why didn't I think to come up with [capuchin needed]?? UtherSRG (talk) 15:24, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- The momnet never struck -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:46, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Advice on dealing with an IP user
[edit]I need some sound advice on dealing with an IP (98.103.253.178) who has been wikihounding me. Almost their entire edit history is to either bait me on my talk page or cast aspersions on other user talk pages. I started by responding, since it started rather innocuously. Then when it was evident it was not productive discussion, I removed their comments from my talk page and ignored them. That didn't work either, as they continued on my talk page and went to other user talk pages as well. So I took it to ANI and they were blocked for 72 hours. (Here's the ANI report with specific diffs related to what I've mentioned so far: [97])
I had hoped that would end it, but their response to the block was to attack me on their talk page. I wavered as to whether I should respond, ignore, or continue at ANI. I ended up responding, noting their attacks as blatant, what my previous response actions were, and that I requested they retract or remove their attacks or I would move for further action. That obviously did not work either and they've escalated to gaslighting.
The edit history is clearly SPA (if that's possible for an IP). I suspect it's a sock of a user I've dealt with before and that they have some bone to pick with me, but they continue to hide behind an IP and do not provide any specific diffs about their beef when requested.
So I'm at a loss. Do I continue at ANI? Ignore? I've tried to stay above-board on this and not respond in bad faith, but I seriously believe that after their block expires that they are going to continue with their trolling/hounding/casting aspersions. TIA ButlerBlog (talk) 16:16, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Butlerblog: Welp, the first thing I'd do is stay off their talk page. Completely. When someone tells me to stay off their talk page, I do so. Any conduct concerns would be better expressed at ANI then on their talk page. You can mute notifications for their talk page and unwatch it. Any further problems from now on should be reported at ANI. And you can ask their for someone else notify given the hostility over your ANI notification. Best, -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:14, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Butlerblog: redoing ping as I think it failed.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:16, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I kinda felt that way on the first response, and in hindsight... well... I hadn't thought about asking someone to notify - that makes better sense. ButlerBlog (talk) 19:57, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Butlerblog: redoing ping as I think it failed.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:16, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
User:Danceswithedits
[edit]Please see here [98] where the user has added inappropriate promotional details of their off wiki activity together with a spam link to a book they wrote. Theroadislong (talk) 19:21, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Theroadislong: no one has proposed sanctions at ANI? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:59, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- Is that required before inappropriate material is removed? Theroadislong (talk) 21:03, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's probably something you should seek in that ANI thread. Or maybe a sub thread. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:05, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- Is that required before inappropriate material is removed? Theroadislong (talk) 21:03, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Oh dear, I can't think of a suitable witty section heading.
[edit]I like to eppand on things too. JBW (talk) 18:28, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Please undo
[edit]Hi, can you please check out the history of Fashion in Iran? This content was added by blocked users. Then they crowded the history of the article with IP. I deleted but... GBioShield (talk) 21:53, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- @GBioShield:. OK. It's a mess. Please report them at ANI, cause they need to probably be blocked. Frying fish. will be back -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:56, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Done -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:02, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- what about the article?! its an important one, can you do something? GBioShield (talk) 22:04, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- Can you please check in the history of the article again? This content should not be in the article. First added by Lexi. But it was removed after the discussion by 2 users in the same year. But later 2 other blocked users added the content again... super amazing! GBioShield (talk) 22:05, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like a content dispute. Oh, I see now. You are the alleged sock puppet. Sorry, I don't involve myself in this sort of mess. You should discuss content and sourcing on the talk page. Hey, @Nythar: -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:09, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- see User:یاشایان edits, he was the one who started adding and removing this content. GBioShield (talk) 22:11, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- And you were the one also removing the content. Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 22:12, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- @GBioShield: You removed the part about after the 1979 revolution. Hmm. Why is that a desirable change? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:16, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not getting mixed up in this. No WP:BLP violation, so I'm not protecting defamation -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:18, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- at least go to the main version in 2 November 2020 . not the version spammed by user:یاشایان GBioShield (talk) 22:19, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- Like I said, that can be discussed, but using socks for edit warring is not allowed. NytharT.C 22:22, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- War with who?! just one person editted the article. then he undid what he added, then added again and now im deleting it again. GBioShield (talk) 22:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- Like I said, that can be discussed, but using socks for edit warring is not allowed. NytharT.C 22:22, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- @GBioShield: You removed the part about after the 1979 revolution. Hmm. Why is that a desirable change? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:16, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- Mkdw Confirmed your sockpuppetry. Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 20:44, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- And you were the one also removing the content. Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 22:12, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- see User:یاشایان edits, he was the one who started adding and removing this content. GBioShield (talk) 22:11, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like a content dispute. Oh, I see now. You are the alleged sock puppet. Sorry, I don't involve myself in this sort of mess. You should discuss content and sourcing on the talk page. Hey, @Nythar: -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:09, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Quick question!
[edit]Over at AN/I about Fuzheado, you said if we choose to TBAN Fuzheado from ITN, must we fear WMF retaliation?
and I am just wondering what the basis for that is? This is honestly not meant to be a loaded question. I count myself as blissfully ignorant of most WMF drama, and am just trying to get a sense of why there is so much tsuris. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 17:54, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- We have two WMF members arguing that nothing is wrong and the matter should not be at ANI. That sounds like someone's powerful friends might be stepping in to shield them. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:59, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- There presence, intended or not, has a chilling effect. People complain about admins circling wagons, but what then is this? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:00, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- I guess I understand that to a degree, but the part I am missing is what's the fear, I guess? What might the foundation do? I am aware of the Fram situation, of course, but are there other examples? Again, this may entirely be my naivete speaking. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 18:06, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Well, that is the question, isn't it. Just the appearance of WMF interference in an onWiki matter is chilling for that reason. And it is a bad appearance for the WMF to give. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:08, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- I guess I understand that to a degree, but the part I am missing is what's the fear, I guess? What might the foundation do? I am aware of the Fram situation, of course, but are there other examples? Again, this may entirely be my naivete speaking. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 18:06, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- There presence, intended or not, has a chilling effect. People complain about admins circling wagons, but what then is this? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:00, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm slightly concerned I might be on some WMF trouble maker watchlist for raising illegitimate concern. And they say I'm intimidating. Polyamorph (talk) 18:11, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- By disagreeing. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:16, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Even worse than that. By simply asking an admin to account for their actions. If they just responded with some assurance they will take more care in future this would have been resolved 3 weeks ago without ANI ever being aware. Polyamorph (talk) 18:26, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- By the way, I see Fuzheado is active at wikimedia. Priorities though, right? Polyamorph (talk) 19:25, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- By disagreeing. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:16, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm slightly concerned I might be on some WMF trouble maker watchlist for raising illegitimate concern. And they say I'm intimidating. Polyamorph (talk) 18:11, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Can you take a look at...?
[edit]Hi. I was wondering if you could revoke 134.122.36.70's talk page access. I'll remove the inappropriate edit in the meantime. Thanks. SunilNevlaFan✨ 15:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
Help, please
[edit]Can you shed any light on why I'm getting a 502 Bad gateway error when I click the UTRS interface link (https://utrs-beta.wmflabs.org/)? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, just attempting to find out if I'm overlooking something obvious. Tiderolls 14:29, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Apparently, it is broken. I get the same thing. AmandaNP has been ill. She may be working on it or it may be broken broken. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:31, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick response. It's not a disaster; I have no pressing need for access. I do need to make you aware of the possibility that a very disgruntled individual may be visiting there soon. I recently removed talk page access here. If you check their most recent contribs you will see some very rude postings. I don't see them as qualifying for rev-del, but if you see things differently take whatever action you think necessary. Tiderolls 15:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Tiderolls: They will have a hard time inflicting there disgruntlement on UTRS--"502 Bad Gateway".😋 I either respond with a lecture or just a "please address" message or both. Life's to short to allow others' disgruntlement to bother me. They will need to go elsewhere to gain insight into their faults. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:46, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- It's back. It was down for hours. Hours during which I received zero death threats. Nice break. --Yamla (talk) 17:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Yamla: Yes. It was nice. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:07, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- It's back. It was down for hours. Hours during which I received zero death threats. Nice break. --Yamla (talk) 17:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Tiderolls: They will have a hard time inflicting there disgruntlement on UTRS--"502 Bad Gateway".😋 I either respond with a lecture or just a "please address" message or both. Life's to short to allow others' disgruntlement to bother me. They will need to go elsewhere to gain insight into their faults. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:46, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick response. It's not a disaster; I have no pressing need for access. I do need to make you aware of the possibility that a very disgruntled individual may be visiting there soon. I recently removed talk page access here. If you check their most recent contribs you will see some very rude postings. I don't see them as qualifying for rev-del, but if you see things differently take whatever action you think necessary. Tiderolls 15:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Disable TPA
[edit]Hey could you disable the TPA of 2600:100E:B0CD:ECF3:4559:9C6B:A132:99BA? They're clearly not interesting in using the talk page for anything useful. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:49, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Protection at Đại Việt–Lan Xang War (1479–1484)
[edit]I see you protected this due to a dispute, and now one of the editors involved is requesting the last edit be reverted. There's been no discussion on the talk page, and it looks like classic WRONGVERSION stuff. Another editor has supported the edit request, but with no actual discussion on the merit of the edits. I'm interested to hear if you have any input on this. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:38, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- @ScottishFinnishRadish: No input. But thanks for asking. I take no interest in content disputes. No objection to honoring the edit requests. I kinda tell people to make an edit request so I'm not involved. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:04, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm going to restore the status quo, as the changes made didn't involve any change to the source. Hopefully some discussion happens. Thanks for the quick response. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:18, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for revdeling the copyvios, I was about to do it, wanted to get the warning out first before he did it again! GedUK 10:05, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- @GedUK: My pleasure. He's a full time job, I'm afraid. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:07, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
TBJZL image
[edit]Hello, I've seen that you have semi-protected TBJZL's wikipedia page. I was wondering if there was an image that I could replace with his main image that pops up? I'm pretty sure that it's copyright free and is much better. Thanks ArCHaNgEL2124 (talk) 00:59, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- Please discuss that on the article talk page. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:08, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
Hurricane Ian
[edit]Busy preparing to get hit by Hurricane Ian. May be unresponsive for a while. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:45, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- I hope you and yours are safe with access to all necessities. Be well. Star Mississippi 01:59, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Star Mississippi: Thanks. The bloody thing mostly missed us and hit Fort Myers. Just lost the facia covering off the back eves. After five days of NHC assuring us it would be a Cat 4 or 5 direct hit on Tampa Bay! Saw the blood chilling pix and videos from Fort Myers. There but for the grace of God. . . . . Every hurricane season, I think of the Great Gale of 1848. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:11, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- Glad you're safe. The photos out of the Fort Myersa, Sanibel and Captiva are just heartbreaking, although it seems Sanibel is a little better off than first feared-causeway aside. Gulf of Mexico/Mother Nature seemed to be trying to reclaim their land. Frightening to watch low-lying areas. Funny aside: I'm not a home owner but I am a runner. Facia/fascia, especially those in the feet in my case, are troublesome. Star Mississippi 02:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Star Mississippi: Thanks. The bloody thing mostly missed us and hit Fort Myers. Just lost the facia covering off the back eves. After five days of NHC assuring us it would be a Cat 4 or 5 direct hit on Tampa Bay! Saw the blood chilling pix and videos from Fort Myers. There but for the grace of God. . . . . Every hurricane season, I think of the Great Gale of 1848. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:11, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Archived AE report
[edit]I'm referred to you by Admin RegentsPark concerning an AE report which has been archived by bot without any close while all the admins including you weighed on for some kind of action against the said editor's problematic editing. Would ask you to look into it. Thanks! USaamo (t@lk) 14:54, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry. Busy for foreseeable future -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:08, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Stay safe! :) USaamo (t@lk) 17:36, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Unarchived but staler than month old stollen. Requested a closer. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:38, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- Stay safe! :) USaamo (t@lk) 17:36, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
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Request for new rangeblock
[edit]Hi Deepfriedokra.
On 12 May 2022 you rangeblocked 89.19.76.0/22 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) for a month for vandalism - this has expired and the vandalism resumed. The IPs used are logged at User:Arjayay/Patrick Bourke which also shows several other long-term rangeblocks currently in force - hence Patrick Bourke is concentrating on using this range. Proof that it is that indeffed user can be seen from his name at the end of this edit he made earlier today. Could I please ask you to reapply the rangeblock, but for longer. Many thanks - Arjayay (talk) 13:20, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
Thoughts?
[edit]Hi Deepfriedokra,
I noticed this online link[99]. This might result in more disruption in the cesspool known as WP:AA2 and WP:KURDS.
Google translate: ""The first spark was ignited in order to correct and organize the unfounded claims we have seen on Wikipedia recently. r/turkviki was established. Let's get organized from there."
Another link:[100]
Google translate:[101] "Friends, this subreddit was founded on the termination of unfounded claims made on Wikipedia. Our aim is to put an end to the unfounded allegations made on Wikipedia, the propaganda activities targeting our country and nation, to express the truth and correct the mistakes."
Google translate of one of the comments:[102] "we need a larger audience, salaried employees of wikipedia, and I don't know how effective we can be against the current Turkish hatred"
- LouisAragon (talk) 19:55, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- @LouisAragon: Might want to mention it at WP:AN -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:18, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
2409:4073:2117:D122:5CC8:189:DE7F:BEA8
[edit]I tried reporting user:2409:4073:2117:D122:5CC8:189:DE7F:BEA8 to AIV but it deleted my report. 2601:246:C080:38C0:4C0E:2A83:16B4:92CF (talk) 11:59, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
- The bot deletes when it blocks the user or detects the user is already blocked. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:16, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
- It was only partially blocked, but now it’s fully blocked. 2601:246:C080:38C0:4C0E:2A83:16B4:92CF (talk) 12:19, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
Soft vs hard blocks
[edit]Got a question for you. Is there any way for a non-admin user like myself to tell whether an account has been soft or hard blocked? As I understand, the type of block would also influence how we respond to the user creating a new account to continue editing (soft = allowed, hard = not allowed and considered socking). --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:44, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Drm310: Under the user's contribs, you should be able to see their block log. Also, it might say in the block message. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:58, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
{{Uw-softerblock}}
is used for a soft block, and{{uw-spamublock}}
for a hard block.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:05, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- OK, for example, this user's block log shows as uw-spamublock, so that's a hard. And because another new account (ContentCreator16s) has popped up and basically started making the same edits, then I'd be correct in reporting it as block evasion? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:08, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- In the Marketingcats block log, I see "account creation blocked". That indicates a hard block, so if someone's set up a new account to evade that block, that'd be a violation. As this is just a checkbox when an admin goes to do the block, though, we do occasionally mess up the block. --Yamla (talk) 17:11, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Yamla: I don't think Randy literally checked a box. When I hard-block with Twinkle, it does it for me.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:29, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Good point. Admins with their fancy automated tools. :) --Yamla (talk) 18:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Yamla: I don't think Randy literally checked a box. When I hard-block with Twinkle, it does it for me.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:29, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- In the Marketingcats block log, I see "account creation blocked". That indicates a hard block, so if someone's set up a new account to evade that block, that'd be a violation. As this is just a checkbox when an admin goes to do the block, though, we do occasionally mess up the block. --Yamla (talk) 17:11, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- OK, for example, this user's block log shows as uw-spamublock, so that's a hard. And because another new account (ContentCreator16s) has popped up and basically started making the same edits, then I'd be correct in reporting it as block evasion? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:08, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Deepfriedokra, Yamla, could one of you take action on ContentCreator16s? Or I can open a SPI report if that's preferred. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:27, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'll go take a look. Thanks. --Yamla (talk) 18:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- I do not use Twinkle or any automated tools. When I block someone, the default setting is a hard block. If I am soft blocking someone, I need to manually uncheck two boxes before blocking. I have forgotten once or twice. Cullen328 (talk) 18:29, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- You should try using Tinker Bell. You just have to wish hard and clap.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:43, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Be careful. I am the main contributor to Imogen and Twinka at Yosemite. Cullen328 (talk) 18:48, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- I came here from seeing Bbb's edit comment. I was not disappointed. :) - UtherSRG (talk) 18:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Be careful. I am the main contributor to Imogen and Twinka at Yosemite. Cullen328 (talk) 18:48, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- You should try using Tinker Bell. You just have to wish hard and clap.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:43, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- I do not use Twinkle or any automated tools. When I block someone, the default setting is a hard block. If I am soft blocking someone, I need to manually uncheck two boxes before blocking. I have forgotten once or twice. Cullen328 (talk) 18:29, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'll go take a look. Thanks. --Yamla (talk) 18:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Deepfriedokra, Yamla, could one of you take action on ContentCreator16s? Or I can open a SPI report if that's preferred. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:27, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Thanks
[edit]Some people just can't help themselves, it looks like. Fingers crossed things will go better in a year. -- Yamla (talk) 22:05, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Yamla: It was too long too read anyway. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:15, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
Hmm
[edit]I received an email from Djm-leighpark. Obviously I cannot share that with you unless you suggest a channel that does not break WP rules. You may see my careful reply not quoting it at the current foot of their talk page. It suggests to me that they are unable to resist combat. I do not need your public thoughts on this unless you choose. In rare cases I will correspond by email. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:59, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: What a shame. This was once a constructive, respected user. I don't do email. If you do as they ask, you are allowing them to PROXY. Somehow, we need to stop the G13 bot from posting to blocked users. That must be painful. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- I have chosen very carefully not to do as they have asked, while leaning them gently away.
- They were once a useful editor. Perhaps they might be again, but one can only ask 'just so many times' to be unblocked. I confess I found them combative in their early period here, though. IIRC they became "possessive" over Asian sub-continent articles 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:16, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, it was AFC declines to another editor that they were speaking of. That suddenly makes my antennae twitch, though.
- I do agree re the G13, but a counter argument is that blocked users made the bed they are lying in 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:20, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
You moved an article on this rapper to draft space in August, and you and User:Praxidicae removed "passionate promocruft". (I didn't read the history to see the cruft and don't want to read it.) You then ECP-move-protected the draft. A different editor has now created an article. You didn't ECP-create-protect the title, so this may have been what you intended. I haven't decided whether it should be AFD'd. The new editor is a student and appears to be a good-faith editor. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:00, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Robert McClenon: If it proves viable, we may need a histmerge,-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:14, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Pointblank Records
[edit]You have perm blocked the user and page we have been unsure of how to edit and are learning as we go can you please unblock and suggest how to edit correctly as we are a legitimate record label and understand that we cannot add links to stores etc as what i believe was the reason for the blocking Pbgarage (talk) 23:03, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- Blocked and asked to address via original account. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:42, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
UTRS
[edit]Hello, Deepfriedokra,
I was looking at some requests there and saw this one and wondered if your account had been compromised. Your comments don't make any sense. Is everything okay? Maybe you have been putting in too many hours at UTRS and should start working in other areas. Just concerned. Liz Read! Talk! 03:22, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Liz: Sorry. I was afraid not everyone was up to date on their Lovecraft! The unreadable one means, "dead Cthulhu lies sleeping/dreaming in his house in R'lyeh." The second was the sounds that such a being would make. Or maybe a Shoggoth. It was triggered by not being fully awake and "BlazeWolf is waiting". (same scansion) And having my patience worn thin by the appellant. Was funny at the time. Best. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:50, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- (Blazewolf is still dancing with the appellant.) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! - UtherSRG (talk) 11:12, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Have you heard the musical play? It's based off of Fiddler on the Roof and called A Shoggoth on the Roof. I usually start listening to it every year around now... - UtherSRG (talk) 11:14, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- (Blazewolf is still dancing with the appellant.) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Liz: Sorry. I was afraid not everyone was up to date on their Lovecraft! The unreadable one means, "dead Cthulhu lies sleeping/dreaming in his house in R'lyeh." The second was the sounds that such a being would make. Or maybe a Shoggoth. It was triggered by not being fully awake and "BlazeWolf is waiting". (same scansion) And having my patience worn thin by the appellant. Was funny at the time. Best. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:50, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
Some stroopwafels for you!
[edit]Some stroopwafels for you! TinGamerTV (talk) 11:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC) |
Deepfriedokra is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia soon. |
Courtney Stodden
[edit]Hi. Since you previously put a six-month protection upon the Courtney Stodden article, can you put a longer one on it? It continues to be a target of vandalism by people reverting the pronouns in the article from the singular they that Stodden has stated they prefers to female ones. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 20:17, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- @El c: Could you make it permanent under what ever GS/DS? I'm busy with the #TwitterMigration. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:27, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Bloody pings. @El C: -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:28, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Sure np. Done. El_C 21:33, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Defeedme
[edit]Hi Deepfriedokra, any thoughts on this? I was pinged to this conversation. IMO, the WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality merits a reblock. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:57, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- I think they both need blocking. Opined on talk. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:29, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- ha my observation has been proven - selective enforcement is a common theme here. Wes Sideman gets away scot-free and he's the one who's been edit warring way before I came along. Look at his history. And this admin is a bad actor: https://ohnoitsjamiewikipediascammer.wordpress.com/ 66.85.48.14 (talk) 16:10, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
Good grief!
[edit]A Twitter Migration and a tropical storm in the same week? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:43, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
UTRS help
[edit]Hi, I received an e-mail from DeltaQuadBot saying that "someone appealed your block" using UTRS and that if it was me to "verify this appeal" using a link. After I clicked on the link and then logged in to UTRS using a button at the link location, I was at a loss as to what to do. I don't believe I've ever gotten an e-mail like this before, certainly not in recent memory. As you know, you're my UTRS go-to person. What should I do? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:25, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: Have not seen one of those in years. Did It say what user? What appeal number. Weird. And I can't type.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:08, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- The only current ticket of one you blocked is Shinny69. That seems to be in limbo. @Blaze Wolf: was working with them via discord. But, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I just cannot see an unblock there. That email sounds like a courtesy automatic notice to let you know someone posted an appeal on UTRS. No one would go forward without asking you, so I see no need for further action. Have not seen one of those notices in years. Maybe DeltaQuadbot woke up. We could ask @AmandaNP: if she's around. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:16, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, that sounds right. I was in the middle of typing a long answer to you, but we edit-conflicted and I lost all of my typing, and I don't intend to rewrite it. Thanks for your help.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:20, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- It's #65609 that triggered the email as far as I can tell. If you want to email me the link in the email I can confirm that. When you get those emails and you aren't the one blocked, you can just ignore them. -- Amanda (she/her) 18:43, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- The only current ticket of one you blocked is Shinny69. That seems to be in limbo. @Blaze Wolf: was working with them via discord. But, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I just cannot see an unblock there. That email sounds like a courtesy automatic notice to let you know someone posted an appeal on UTRS. No one would go forward without asking you, so I see no need for further action. Have not seen one of those notices in years. Maybe DeltaQuadbot woke up. We could ask @AmandaNP: if she's around. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:16, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]Hey man... You had an IP and another user edit warring here, so I protected your talk. Let me know when you are back and I'll unprotect. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:33, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
- It was a block evading vandal. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:36, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]I've been meaning to tell you - love these. I try to use them whenever I'm doing CSD deletions that fit. Do you have a page where they are each listed? I've just been randomly attempting to find them when I use them. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:16, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
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to the end of an IP in Special:Contributions to see all of a subnet's edits, and consider blocking the whole subnet rather than an IP that may change within a minute.
See my note on UTRS appeal #66491, the unblock request for the IP address. -- Yamla (talk) 10:43, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
Seasons Greetings
[edit]Whatever you celebrate at this time of year, whether it's Christmas or some other festival, I hope you and those close to you have a happy, restful time! Have fun, Donner60 (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2022 (UTC)}} |
Donner60 (talk) 05:07, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
[edit]Hello Deepfriedokra: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, TheSandDoctor Talk 18:19, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
From my family to yours: Merry Christmas! TheSandDoctor Talk 18:19, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy Holidays
[edit]Happy Holidays | ||
Hello, I wish you the very best during the holidays. And I hope you have a very happy 2023! Bruxton (talk) 18:59, 25 December 2022 (UTC) |
Blatant violation of policy by a rouge admin
[edit]I have shamelessly and openly refactored a talk page post of yours: [103] JBW (talk) 23:00, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy new era
[edit]- ^ "Унесенные смертью Сколько же советских людей было убито в Великой Отечественной?" The Novaya Gazeta, May 14, 2021 https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2021/05/14/unesennye-smertiu?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
- ^ "Унесенные смертью Сколько же советских людей было убито в Великой Отечественной?"