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Robert Maxwell

Reliable sources are pretty much unanimous in calling Maxwell a fraudster. Guy (help!) 13:46, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Robert_Maxwell (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) I have come across an article (Robert Maxwell) where it's claimed that he is a "Fraudster". I have tried to change this to "suspected" etc to soften it up, because no court has ruled against Robert Maxwell (he died and then irregularities in his company books were discovered, his sons were tried and acquitted). I think it's worthy of a principle decision from Wikipedia, i.e. Should Wikipedia contributors write that a person is guilty of a crime even if no court has ruled that he is.Ubbe nationell (talk) 12:55, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Mia Love election totals

The total vote count is wrong by 200 votes,should be 146,968 and it shows 147,168 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.146.170.235 (talk) 00:35, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done Maproom (talk) 09:04, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Problem with 'Infobox university'

There seems to be a problem with the way 'Infobox university' works. From what I have had experience of, the infobox automatically assigns all non-academic staff numbers to "Administrative staff". It is possible that the infoboxes I have used are partial, and other classifications exist, I don't know. Certainly, some infoboxes have confused total staff numbers with "administrative staff", which is a problem in its own right. However, the main problem is that many non-academic employees of universities are not administrative, they are librarians, post-doctoral researchers, technicians, gardeners, electricians, IT specialists etc. I fear that disinformation is endemic to many or all articles using this infobox template. I think, ideally, the infobox should offer 'total staff numbers', and/or replacing the word 'administrative' with 'other staff' or 'non-academic staff'.Urselius (talk) 13:48, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Urselius, the best place to bring this up is at Template talk:Infobox university. The template isn't "automatic". An editor has to put the numbers in, hopefully with a supporting reference either in the article or in the infobox. But you make a good point. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:24, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi thanks. From my experience if you add a number when editing the infobox to "| staff" the resulting number on the actual page is flagged as "Administrative staff". This seems to be automatic. Therefore, on a number of pages people have added the total staff numbers only for it to appear as "Administrative staff". It seems to be a fault in the design of the infobox. I just write content and have not a clue as to how to fix a 'coding problem' for want of a better phrase. Urselius (talk) 10:44, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Urselius, it turns out there is history involved. The fields used to be "faculty" and "staff" (titled Faculty and Staff) until someone pointed out that in British English faculty means department, as the Faculty of Classics at Cambridge University, not people who teach. So they changed to "academic_staff" and "administrative_staff". The code still recognizes the old names "faculty" and "staff" so that it didn't break existing uses of the template. Staff originally meant all the other employees and, as the documentation says far down on the template page, administrative staff means "administrative and support staff". This is confusing and I will take it up on the template talk page. StarryGrandma (talk)

Thanks a lot. It would be really useful to have some flexibility in the infobox - the ability to enter total staff numbers, and/or non-academic staff numbers in addition to academic staff. Urselius (talk) 09:14, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Natalie DiCaprio

My article about me has been deleted by Werner von Basil because my name is still Natalie Doerner but this will change very soon. That’s the reason I choosed Natalie DiCaprio as my profilename and not Natalie Doerner what I don‘t like. Just read my article and you will see why. You can check out @nataliedicaprio on Instagram to see that I‘ll be Natalie DiCaprio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Natalie DiCaprio (talk • contribs) 08:34, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

KARATE

Karate is a technic that recommends to use hands rather than weapons.We can break the word karate into two parts; Kara-empty Te-hand — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen sheaks nawa (talk • contribs) 20:55, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Did you have a question about editing Wikipedia? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:44, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Advice/Assistance with best way to make a substantial article re-organization with a 'busy' article

I am a novice Wikipedia editor, a retired technical author & editor familiar with some markup but new to wikipedia procedures, rules, and acronyms.

I am trying to reduce the reading and editing chaos in Electronic cigarette (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). I have taken the content from a very recent point in time and have been reorganizing it at User:Jd4x4/Jd4x4/sandbox:ECigReorg and have posted that I am doing this on the Electronic cigarette talk page, asking for feedback but have only received one response that wasn't very helpful, and certainly not a consensus. And, this article is constantly being changed with minutia (wording, changing citations, undo's etc) so it's very hard to keep my copy up to date.

Is there someone that can look at the two pages (original & mine) and recommend my next steps, or advice on a different way to proceed? I don't think I want to cut & paste my changes as one big edit, or do I?

Thank YouJd4x4 (talk) 04:01, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

• The article in question was changing minute by minute with no reply here (I get it), so I was simply bold and cut & pasted my reorganized version and will see how it goes. I would still like some guidance (or a reference to help) on how to accomplish this with a fast moving article.Jd4x4 (talk) 14:03, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Jd4x4 My suggestion: Go slow, one section at a time. Starting from the bottom can work well. Take "Related technologies", work on that until you are happy with it, wait a couple of days for reactions, continue. If other editors get involved/revert/whatever, read their editsummaries (sometimes you may agree!), if necessary discuss/ask for clarification on the talkpage, and let it take time if needed. Finally, see what you've got and make necessary changes to the WP:LEAD, if any. As a novice, take a look at WP:BRD and WP:MEDRS. Human health topics are one of the areas on WP where policies are enforced most strictly (and editors have strong opinions on what is "right"), but that does not mean that the article can't be improved. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:50, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for that (although it's too late to go slow, I did the bold deed and we are starting to put some order to the chaos I think. I have WP:BRD and WP:MEDRS along with WP:USINGPRIMARY bookmarked, lol. And thanks for the advice to start from the bottom-up.Jd4x4 (talk) 06:07, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

possible article

Please have a read of my draft article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dsouzaron/sandbox. I had submitted it before and it was deleted. Is it good enough now? Tissueboy (talk) 03:23, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Riverview amusement park chicago

Answered

There is another photo history book called Riverview Gone But Not Forgotten 1904- 1967 published in 1977 in its 16th printing author Chuck Wlodarczyk. Who was the answering source for the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun Times action line And action time questions .he also produced. 2 Hr DVD of movies and slides of the park the author was called Mr Riverview by many.this book and DVD were the first and most popular.24.13.210.217 (talk) 04:32, 26 February 2020 (UTC)Chuck Wlodarczyk

I actually own a copy of your book and have enjoyed it very much! Unfortunately, since it is self-published (you also being the owner of the publisher, Riverview Publications) it does not meet the definition of a reliable source as required by Wikipedia and generally cannot be used as a source for information in articles here. That does not mean, incidentally, that all the sources which have been used in Riverview Park (Chicago) are (or are not) proper sources, it just means that if there are improper sources that they should be removed, rather than additional improper sources being added. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:36, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Fargo

Fargo a black comedy say what! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.77.173 (talk) 02:34, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

That's how the article describes it, and I think it's apt. Do you have a concern? You can discuss on the talk page but it's been that way for at least 500 edits and is not likely something you can change without getting pushback. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:45, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Kabir Helminski

Kabir Helminski (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

My redraft of the ‘Kabir Helminski’ article was deleted by JJMC89 for copyright infringement on 16 November. Here are the details of the deletion:

03:07, 16 November 2019 JJMC89 talk contribs deleted page Draft:Kabir Helminski (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of https://sufism.org/threshold/kabir-camille/kabir-and-camille-helminski-threshold-society-founders-2 | TW) (thank)

I asked JJMC89 if I could be given access to the article once more, explaining that in fact there was no copyright infringement. On 28 November I wrote the following message to JJMC89 to explain:

I see the source of confusion now! Kabir Helminski (with whom I have declared connection) has actually posted my entire draft article on his own website (I shared it with him). He credited is as coming from Wikipedia but did not realise that it is only a draft and therefore likely to be viewed as infringing his own copyright! If I ask him to take it down, can my article be re-considered?(Danthedervish (talk) 11:22, 28 November 2019 (UTC))

Kabir Helminski immediately did as I asked and deleted from his own website (www.sufism.org) the text I had created on Wikipedia. However, JJMC89 would not consider my case. Here is JJMC89’s response:

It was a mistake to undelete it the first time. I have no intention of further helping you. — JJMC89 23:37, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

The first time JJMC89 is referring to is when the article was deleted for being considered un-noteworthy and lacking independent citations. I believe the revised article successfully resolved these issues but it was never given an opportunity to be assessed on that basis. I therefore ask that it be given one.

Please note that Kabir Helminski has been cited as one of the 500 most influential Muslims in the world and his books have been published into 11 different languages by reputable publishing houses. One of his books (Living Presence) has become a ‘cornerstone edition’ at Tarcher (an imprint of Penguin Random House) and was recently re-published as a 25th anniversary edition. Needless to say, Kabir Helminski is willing to verify that I have not infringed his copyright.

Danthedervish (talk) 21:11, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

As it has been over 7 days and there has been no response to my query, I will take this up in the Deletion Review Forum. Danthedervish (talk) 10:27, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Blood donation help msm

Answered

Hello

Can someone help me correcting Blood donation restrictions on men who have sex with men?

188.143.62.119 (talk) 12:11, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

What are you trying to correct? Slywriter (talk) 12:29, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

See the bottom of the talk page. Hungary has lifetime deferral. I suspect other European countries too. 188.143.62.119 (talk) 12:38, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

A review of available sources including the law placed on the Talk Page shows that Hungary is 12 month deferral for the affected category. Permanent deferment is only for those who have actually contracted HIV (along with various other diseases).

• Result: No change to article

Slywriter (talk) 13:10, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Actually no: anyone who previously at any time hadsex with a man and himself is a man has a deferral without a time limit as shown in the document of the blood donation agency and also according to the referenced law.

The currently linked source is just incorrect. 188.143.62.119 (talk) 16:18, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Help with COI

Hey! I really don't mean to bother you guys. So here's the thing: I want to edit this article for factual concerns about a newspaper that I happen to be editor for, which would mean that I would have to disclose my COI. So here's where I start to get a little iffy. See, I happen to be a high school junior, and the newspaper happens to be my high school newspaper. So right now I'm in this awkward situation of "should i disclose my COI and basically vet my dumb 17-year-old ass."

Basically: I'm a minor who has a COI and am torn b/w disclosing it and you know, not narrowing my identity to about 15 different teenagers in my area. What should I do?

MadameButterflyKnife talk 01:43, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

With a COI, you shouldn't be editing the article at all. Edits should be requested on the article talk page using the {{request edit}} template, instead. But if you're concerned about revealing your real world identity, however, by doing so (and you should be), it would be best if you did not edit the article at all. While things can seem very important and urgent, Wikipedia is in this for the long haul and there is no hurry. If the needed changes are important enough, someone else will eventually make them. I left the truly-awful article about the business I worked for untouched for years for that very reason (and I had a lot more camouflage for modifying it than you do). Don't take the chance, just let it go. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:57, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

"With a COI, you shouldn't be editing the article at all. Edits should be requested on the article talk page..." That's not what our CoI policy says. Please read it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:52, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

I have read it, let me quote the relevant bits for you since you apparently have not read it closely. First sentence, second paragraph: "COI editing is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia." If that's not, "shouldn't be editing the article at all" I'll eat my hat. And then it goes on in the WP:COIEDIT section, fourth bullet point, to say that instead that the {{request edit}} method should instead be used, just as I said above. I'll grant you that "strongly discouraged" is not "prohibited" but a "how to edit with a COI" recommendation or tutorial would certainly fly against the spirit of the policy. The explanatory supplement Plain and simple conflict of interest guide, linked in the policy, puts it far more bluntly in more than one place, the first being "Do not edit articles about yourself, your family or friends, your organization, your clients, or your competitors." (Emphasis added.) — TransporterMan (TALK) 22:36, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

@MadameButterflyKnife: You can legitimately create a second account to make such edits, without linking it to your existing account so long as those accounts never interact. If you do, it would be best to say that you have done so, without revealing your "real" account, on the new account's user page. Superb user name, BTW! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:52, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! I probably will do what TransporterMan advised and just let it go for now. MadameButterflyKnife yeah sure.talk 00:08, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Submission Declined

Hello, My submission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Fatima_Bakery_and_Store was Declined on 2 March by Sulfurboy. Details: 'This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified.' I'm looking for someone to help me understand why my sources are not reliable since I am new to Wikipedia procedures.

Sayuurii (talk) 06:40, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Sayuurii, reliability is not the only issue. To establish that the subject is notable, you need several reliable independent published sources with in-depth discussion of the subject. Wikipedia does not count as a reliable source (and anyway, the Wikipedia articles you had cited did not even mention the bakery). News articles based on interviews with the bakery's owner and his family are not independent of the bakery. Maproom (talk) 08:05, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

A potential competence issue

Hello all. I was originally going to post this at WP:AN, but I think a less formal/official venue might be better off for now. I am questioning the competence level of a fellow user, Tia Canita (talk · contribs), and have for at least two years now. English is not their first language and their persistent use of poor grammar has become quite a burden on other editors having to clean-up. They exclusively edit articles related to The Walking Dead TV series, so the pool of users they interact with is fairly small. Their issues include run-on sentences, incorrect use of gender pronouns, and general poor grammar/odd word choice.

They were first warned in April 2018 about incorrect gender pronoun use and grammar issues; I subsequently warned them again in February and October 2019 about this, but they didn't respond and the same issues still existed. I made another attempt just a few days ago, and they finally responded, stating "I am very sorry I do not know how to speak a lot, English my English is not perfect if it bothers you so much that I edit in my bad grammar correct it or finally check my test area and there you correct it greetings"

I went through their edit history to grab some examples of their various grammar issues. I know it states not to copy large amounts text, so I'll try and be brief, but obviously I want to show my case here.

• June 2017 – grammar/run-on sentences – "Simon is characterized by being extremely reluctant of a huge stature with a very rude and intimidating aspect, his special assignment is to submit to Hilltop by which he recurrently visits the colony. Without realizing that Maggie and Sasha are in that place, in the end of the seventh season accompanies Negan to submit again to the Alexandrians, without realizing that the community allied with Hilltop and The Kingdom during this event Rick along with Maggie Leading Hilltop and Ezekiel along with the Kingdom manage to give a hard blow to Los Salvadores which forces Simon along with his leader and Dwight to flee.

• June 2018 – incorrect gender pronouns/reading comprehension – Here he adds the caption text "Laurie Holden who plays Andrea got great positive reviews about the development of his character in this episode" and then replaces "got great positive reviews" with "was very criticized". This shows a lack of reading compression and understanding English when they change something to the exact opposite. User also refers to a woman as "his".

• September 2018 – run-on sentences/grammar problems – "This episode marks the last appearance of the main actor Lennie James who has played Morgan Jones who from first season in the premiere episode "Days Gone Bye" got a special participation, then in the third season in "Clear", step to the recurring cast in Fifth season and from sixth season until this last episode was promoted to the main cast. James's exit is because his character starts a game to an unknown destination, to start the crossover with "Fear The Walking Dead" and give a new twist to the fourth season of this serie."

• When the user adds something with correct grammar, it's because it's copied from other sources. This edit is copied from here; this from here; and this from here; though he inserts incorrect wording such as "In the episode mid-season premiere" or referring to a season finale episode as a "final season".

• March 2019 – run-on sentences/grammar problems

• April 2019 – Adds Spanish text; possibly shows their editing using a translating program.

• September 2019 – Another reading comprehension example – He adds "Chandler Riggs (Carl Grimes) got mixed reviews during the development of his character in the episode"; I reverted it as the reception section only mentioned positive things in regards to that.

• September 2019 – Still using incorrect gender pronouns.

• Another user, Tobi999tomas (talk · contribs), who mainly assists in editing Walking Dead articles, has to constantly clean-up after Tia Canita's edits: [1][2][3][4].

• The biggest issue here is that this user makes edits when they add massive chunks of text, such this, this, and this. All these edits have to be reviewed and basically rewritten from scratch; this generates tons of work for other editors to do which is unfair. An IP commented "Contributors need to know how to write" referring to one of the episode summaries written by them. Here an IP fixes the various gender pronoun mistakes, something Tia Canita is still making despite being warned multiple times; the first which occurred almost two years ago.

Now, I'm looking for opinions from other editors if this indeed is a valid WP:CIR issue that can be raised at WP:AN. Drovethrughosts (talk) 20:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Wordsmith Needed

The cousin article went through a lot of revisions to consolidate information and reduce the desire to make the article a list of examples. Now its content is OKish but it requires someone of some talent to go through it and wordsmith it a bit. How do I go about finding someone. It seems like most people on wiki just fight perceived vandalism, and not many dedicate there time to make constructive edits.198.151.8.4 (talk) 17:10, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

What article are you talking about? Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 21:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

The article is the cousin article. 198.151.8.4 (talk) 17:44, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Several editors have started to help. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 01:43, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Andrew Peach

Hi all, can I bring your attention to my latest comment on the talk page of Andrew Peach? I have been fobbed off before being told self-promotion isn't a issue with this article, but have since made a discovery. I believe most of the information on the article has been "bigged up" more than it should have been. Possibly not all true? This article seems to be ore of a presenter's CV than anything else. Also, most of the links are dead! Any help would be gratefully received! - Funky Snack (Talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:52, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

जिल्हा अधिकारी यांचे बद्दल

आज रोजी आपल्या पोर्टलवर जिल्हाधिकाऱ्यांचे जुनेच नाव असून त्यामध्ये बदल करणे गरजेचे आहे अश्विन मुद्गल किंवा अजय गुल्हाने हे नसून एम डी सिंह हे वर्तमान जिल्हाधिकारी आहे — Preceding unsigned comment added by भरत जाधव (talk • contribs) 10:01, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

WikiDiff

there are 2 commas as shown in the below text by WikiDiff:- pecan English (wikipedia pecan) Alternative forms

• paccan, peccan

Noun (en noun) A deciduous tree, , of the central and southern United States, having deeply furrowed bark, pinnately compound leaves, and edible nuts.

• 1885 , Howard Seely, A Ranchman's stories , page 154: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.130.88.180 (talk) 08:25, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

If this is about [5], I don't see a double comma there. Maproom (talk) 14:08, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Programs and Events Dashboard

Which Programs or Events Dashboard give me gift or postcard? Example:Wikipedia Asian Month.Pouyasg (talk) 17:06, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

My article could not get any publishment process since more than 1 month

Hi Dear Editor,

I think I am sure that my article has no problem and fits the regulations and rules of wikipedia, however it did not get any publication process.

Could you check it for me, I posted the link below

My best regards

User:Intellectualwriter/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intellectualwriter (talk • contribs) 21:08, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

I can see no evidence that the page has been submitted for review. By the way, what is the subject's name? Your sandbox variously gives it as "TAS" and "Tas", while some of the sources cited give "Taş". Maproom (talk) 21:36, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Intellectualwriter, you have not submitted the article for review. However, since it is a spamvertisement, it would be declined anyway (and I'm about a hot second away from just hitting the G11 button myself, to be quite honest). You would need to fix that first. Wikipedia does not permit advertising or promotion. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 21:38, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

@Intellectualwriter: I just made some improvements to User:Intellectualwriter/sandbox (the link you give above), only to find you have a copy of that page at Draft:Suleyman Tas. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:31, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Need help with Pat Day page

An editor or series of editors have done a character assassination piece on Pat Day, one of the greatest jockeys who ever lived.

Each time I add important achievements of his and take out mean-spirited, hateful and one-sided attack pieces, all of my edits are removed.

I need help in protecting my edits.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Nathan — Preceding unsigned comment added by NatroneDay (talk • contribs) 23:17, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

@NatroneDay:, before proceeding with any further edits, to the Pat Day page or anywhere else, I highly recommend that you read the following links on the Core Content Policies and the Contributing to Wikipedia pages. The text you are removing looks like an over-reaction to the criticism in the lead paragraph. Any biography of a living person on Wikipedia must have all statements sourced but statements that do have a source are usually retained. The correct thing to do is not to keep making the same edits (that's called edit warring and can lead to blocking your ability to edit the project), but to use the article talk page. Every article has a talk page where you can discuss what you think is problematic about the article and reach an agreement with other editors. This is a normal, even vital, part of editing articles about people. I hope this helps and is not overwhelming. Please feel free to contact me at my talk page if you have any further questions. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:10, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

I sympathize with the OP. Language like "Many still grind their teeth" is unencyclopedic, as well as unreferenced. Maproom (talk) 09:11, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello, can you please advise on the status of this page? I know with coronavirus maybe this has been forgotten but I have not seen any updates in eight days on the talk page. Thank you. - NatroneDay

Need Help Updating My First Three Articles

Hello, I create a few articles on some interesting public figures and a sports company. Can someone help me research and update these articles for me?

Article (Pharaoic): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaoic Article (Spzrts): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spzrts Article (Davion Robinson): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davion_Robinson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnson28.7 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Your use of the word "emerging" in the last of those is revealing. It means "not notable yet". I suggest you give up on that one. Maproom (talk) 09:45, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Request for Editor Review of Credit Union National Association Page

Hi,

On January 27, we offered suggested edits to the Credit Union National Association page through the talk feature to avoid any appearance of tampering with our own entry, but it does not appear that these edits have been reviewed or incorporated to date.

Would an editor mind reviewing the recommended edits and either accepting them or providing feedback in the immediate future?

Thanks, --CUNA News (talk) 14:29, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Help with Wheely article

Hello! My name is Elena and I work for Wheely. I made an account here to propose updates to the company's page, which I've been posting at Talk:Wheely for editors to review. So far I've identified some grammatical issues, an inaccurate company description, and poorly sourced text. I've reached out to several WikiProjects and editors, and even tried using the edit request template, but feedback has been very limited. Are you editors here able to come over and assist? I hope this is an appropriate venue to ask for help, and thank you. Elena Wheely (talk) 11:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Graphing data pulled from wikidata

I'm helping an editor set up a graph for coronavirus cases. Is there a way to pull data from Wikidata instead of coding it into the article with {{Graph:Chart}}? ☆ Bri (talk) 19:41, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Bri, there doesn't seem to be a way. The template {{Graph:Lines}} was written to support using data from Wikidata. However using a wikidata query no longer works and, according to the phab ticket linked to from the template page, doesn't seem to be getting fixed. StarryGrandma (talk) 21:05, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Bri, you might want to look into putting the data on Commons. Graph:Lines can display data that is in a table on Commons. The first example in the template documantation takes its data from Commons at c:Data:Bls.gov/US Women's weekly earnings as a percent of men's by age, annual averages.tab. StarryGrandma (talk) 21:28, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks StarryGrandma, I've started to play with graphs at Talk:2020 coronavirus pandemic in Washington (state)/sandbox. Another editor wants to see something more like Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data/United States/New York State medical cases chart. We'll see what we can do, I guess. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:18, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

confusing information - request for full protection to page

On behalf of the Norman Petty Estate / Norman Petty Studios LLC we had previously requested a lock to the wiki page for producer Norman Petty as it is frequently changed erroneously and replaced with slanderous information by Buddy Holly fans, to the point of defamation. This page has no reason to be edited whatsoever and we are requesting it to be locked or "full protection" against any further or future editing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Petty#Biography — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norvajak (talk • contribs) 03:07, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Battle and destruction of Tripoli International airport 2013 - 2014

Dear Editors, Please help me edit this page: Battle of of the Airport: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tripoli_Airport And this page: The actual airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripoli_International_Airport

Due to the controversial nature of this Battle, in it being a Barbaric assault on a Civilian airport, I would kindly like to ask for editing support from any other responsible editor who is in good conscience of writing detailed, exact, and truthful information about the battle. Users have edited constructively, however because of political vandals, they had destroyed bits of information very crucial to this event.

We are talking about The Tripoli central and International Airport. 10-11 Planes missing, Infrastructure Damage, Oil and Fuel destruction. Black plumes in the sky, Environment pollution, and most important civilian casualties. This should be constituted without a doubt as a Warcrime, but because this information hasnt seeped out as much, it is being forgotten, and the Billions of Dollars in damage gone.

I need your help to edit this page to what it should be. "Detailed and Concise". And preferably, Edit protected from further editing by trolls. Thank you very much! Biomax20 (talk) 04:54, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

P.S. I heard plenty of shelling the entire month to know for sure that the airport was intentionally cratered with Artillery in the most barbaric of ways one can imagine. And if anyone remembers, The Geneva conventions clearly state that this is a Factual, Documentable War Crime. It has resulted in the destruction of Libyan peoples welfare and has made us more destitute over the petty squables, agendas of very vile criminals. Moreover, the very brazen idea that they can just omit such a huge event, such as an attack on a civilian airport, is shocking to me. I cannot edit all these articles on my own!!!

Source Editor looks like Visual Editor?

Hi everyone,
recently I installed a bunch of scripts and ever since I've done that, my source editor looks like the visual editor, but still uses wikitext, I've tried disabling individual scripts, but to no avail. Can someone help? Bᴇʀʀᴇʟʏ • ^{Talk to me}∕_{What have I been doing} 15:31, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

I just discovered it's called the 2017 wikitext editor, how do I get out of it? Bᴇʀʀᴇʟʏ • ^{Talk to me}∕_{What have I been doing} 15:52, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

NVM, found it in Beta features. Bᴇʀʀᴇʟʏ • ^{Talk to me}∕_{What have I been doing} 15:53, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

FALSE INFORMATION IN BIOGRAPHIES, USING PREVIOUSLY PUBLISHED FALSE MEDIA INTERVIEWS

HAVING READ A PARTICULAR CELEBRITY'S FALSE VERSION OF HIS "RISE TO FAME" IN HIS BIOGRAPHY ON WIKIPEDIA, MY QUESTION IS WHY IS WIKIPEDIA ALLOWED TO DO THIS WITHOUT CONFIRMING THE SOURCE? IT APPEARS THAT THE CONTENT IS COPIED FROM THE CELEBRITY'S EGOTISTICAL INTERVIEWS IN THE MEDIA WITHOUT ANY EFFORT TO CONFIRM THE FACTS, RESULTING IN ANGER AND EMBARRASSMENT TO THOSE WHO POSSESS THE EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY.

Since you don't mention what article, see WP:BLP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:44, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Article about Triglidae (Gurnards, Sea Robins)

The article contains the following assertion:

"The large surface area of the fins also permits the fish to glide short distances above the water surface, much like a flying fish."

I do not believe anyone has ever seen a sea robin or gurnard do this. They are essentially benthic and would never, under normal circumstances find themselves at the surface. I also doubt that they could achieve a high enough velocity to glide like a flying fish.

I could be wrong however. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.71.184.122 (talk) 05:13, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

While personal observations such as that cannot be used as a reliable source in Wikipedia (see WP:BURDEN), the assertion in the article is unsourced. The editor who added it is still active on that article and I'm going to let him know and marking the information as unsourced. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

A *question* that still has not been answered (plus: it got archived)

As mentioned at

• Talk:Harvey_Weinstein#Why was a << ("still unanswered") question >> section archived?,

[a "Talk:" page section containing] a certain question <--(which still has not been answered) has been archived.

Now, that question may have been asked in the wrong place, or asked in the wrong way, or something. (If so, then please feel free to say so.) <--("istpfftss"). Or maybe the person (or robot?) who did the archiving, was just going by some rule [such as, "no comments added within a certain amount of time" ... e.g.]. <--(again, "istpfftss").

Or maybe some person *** did not "Like" *** that question! <--(in which case, you could also say so; but only if you knew about it; and that would probably be possible, ... only if you were [or you were in contact with] that person. OR ... maybe if you had a crystal ball, or something.)

...OR, that [section containing that "original"] question may NOT have been advertised sufficiently in (or "linked to", from) some kind of "village pump" type of place (one that is seen more often ... and/or gets more "attention"). <--(again, "istpfftss").

Any advice, or other comments?
Thanks! --Mike Schwartz (talk) 18:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Mike Schwartz, you are correct about threads with no recent comments being archived, but it is a bot, not a person, who does so. That being said, it looks like what you are proposing is not particularly noteworthy; just someone posting a video on the Internet. I would not be in favor of adding trivia like that to articles. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:05, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

New user making huge edit

Hi everyone! I just noticed an editor, Llewop Eidoj made a new page, Draft:MegsMenopause in one edit and is well-formatted, has citations and photos. The weird thing is, that is their second edit ever and the edit summary was "spelling" any opinions? — Yours, Bᴇʀʀᴇʟʏ • ^Talk∕_Contribs 14:36, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Taken care of at WP:COIN. Curdle (talk) 18:13, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Button coding with Lua

We'd like some help over at Wikipedia_talk:Teahouse#Suggestions_for_improving_the_Teahouse_design getting a custom button to be able to display a "pressed" state when linking to the page it's on the same as Template:Clickable button 2 already does. Would anyone who knows Lua be able to help? (ctrl+f for "depressed" and start reading from there.) Sdkb (talk) 19:29, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Sdkb, if you've not yet, I would suggest posting your inquiry at the technical village pump. Editors with such skills can often be found there, so that might be more specific to what you're looking for. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 19:42, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I probably will if I don't hear anything here or on the #technical discord channel. I've been posting a bunch to the technical pump and just don't want to clutter it up too much. Sdkb (talk) 20:16, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

You might try IRC rather than Discord, if you're looking for technically inclined editors. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 22:50, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Editing content for DRI Capital Wikipedia page

Hello,

My name is Julia Mather and I am an Investor Relations Analyst at DRI Capital. We need to update some of the information found on the DRI Capital page, as follows:

REMOVE: Ali Alagheband, Craig Shepherd and Andrea Sotak as Managing Directors (they have departed the company).

ADD: A sentence based on the recent launch of a publicly traded fund on the London Stock Exchange. The text in brackets is already on the page, but we would like to add the next sentence immediately following:

[In 2013, DRI closed its third managed fund, Drug Royalty III, with current equity commitments of US $1 billion from a global pool of institutional investors.] In February 2020, DRI announced the launch of DRI Healthcare PLC, a publicly traded fund that will be listed on the London Stock Exchange’s premium segment; DRI is the alternative investment fund manager for DRI Healthcare PLC.

We would like the words "alternative investment fund manager" to be linked to that Wikipedia article.

Information regarding the launch of this public fund can be found at the following websites: <https://www.reuters.com/article/us-dri-healthcare-ipo/dri-healthcare-aims-to-raise-up-to-350-million-in-london-ipo-idUSKBN2060PO> <https://www.ft.com/content/0797fd6c-4d68-11ea-95a0-43d18ec715f5>

Could we please have someone review the content above and make the necessary changes? It's very much appreciated. Julia

Investor Relations DRI (talk) 15:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I see you made the same requests on the talk page of DRI Capital, which is in principle the right place for it, back in February. But no-one has responded. I might try to deal with it myself in the next day or two (but I certainly shan't object if someone else gets there first). Maproom (talk) 15:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Investor Relations DRI, first of all, your username is in violation of WP:CORPNAME, second of all, to request an edit, please go to the talk page of the article you want for someone to edit, make a new section and add {{Request edit}} at the top of the section so we know what to edit. I suggest reading Wikipedia:Edit_requests#General_considerations Hope this helps.

P.S. Are you related to the Mather Group by any chance? — Yours, Bᴇʀʀᴇʟʏ • ^Talk∕_Contribs 17:28, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Anyone free?

Are there any editor assistants who are currently not very busy right now, and wouldn't mind getting a lot busier? Leave me a message per wikipedia E-mail or on my talk page. User:Triona and I are up to something. :-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 07:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, on Mariah Carey's wiki, it says she's born 1969 or 1970 but in an interview her mom said she was born in 1970. Aaronjay178 (talk) 23:19, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Anyone available??

I was wondering if anyone is available to assist me in teaching an adoptee of mine the higher concepts, rules, and other things. I am also looking for another wikipedian who is very experienced in vandal fighting to help another adoptee of mine. Can you drop a line if you are interested, and on my talk page not here. Gaia Octavia Agrippa ^Talk | _Sign 22:22, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I want to talk to someone about erroneous information on Wikipedia. Recently I've read both vague information as well as blatantly false information , which would discredit your website as a reputable source for accurate information. DebraJohnson52 (talk) 20:25, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

If Russia excluded Pyeongchang, how to deal with this entry?

Russia possibly banned because of state-sponsored doping program. If Russia excluded Pyeongchang, how to deal with this entry?Simon 1996 (talk) 14:39, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Urgent: Request for editor in Camp Fire 2008

Two editors are in arbitration request which is not being heard on procedural grounds -- the issue is minor but we (users) seem to talk past each other, idk.

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Wildland-urban interface relevant to Camp Fire

Camp Fire (2018) Granite07 (talk) 21:43, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Vandalic user: PedrixCake

Hello, recently a user called PedrixCake has been writing vandalic messages on my talk page, he doesn't stop and I am tired of his vandalics edits on my talk page. Thanks for your attention. LuxDavid June, 6, 2019 —Preceding undated comment added 09:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Company Logo Outdated

Hello,

My name is Dan and I am in charge of the online marketing for EXL (EXL). I would really appreciate your help updating the EXL logo that is not outdated and does not reflect the companies current image. I tried contacting the editor, Jovianeye, who uploaded the previous logo but have received no response from him in over a week. I can understand that he is busy but I would like to get this logo updated as soon as possible.

The old logo is at File:EXL Logo.gif. Our new logo that we would like displayed on the EXL page can be found on http://www.exlservice.com/images/exl_logo.png. The name for this file should be EXL_Logo.png. I would really appreciate if assistance on updating this or even some guidance on getting this changed could be provided. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help with this update.

Thanks,

72.76.42.84 (talk) 13:41, 31 July 2013 (UTC)Drbeadle

Open an account (as an individual, not as a company) and then ask me on my talk page to confirm it. You will then be able to upload images yourself. You will also need to update the fair use rationale aa appropriate. This thread may get moved as you have posted on the wrong page. SpinningSpark 18:06, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Hillary Clinton - no criticisms

I have long respected Wikipedia. I love the idea of millions of editors.

But I'm shocked that there isn't a 'criticisms' section for Hillary Clinton. She has been a public figure for many decades and has many controversial actions and statements. Condy Rice has a criticisms section, rightfully so. I'll be checking to see if a more impartial portrait of Mrs Clinton is displayed in the coming weeks.

I do worry that Wikipedia is losing its impartiality, I remember looking at Van Jones' glowing description a few years ago. It looked as though Van himself had written it. But, thankfully, it was fixed.

I'll send a copy of this little letter to a few journalist also.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Catfishman1976 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

How about, rather than contacting journalists, you do a little research? You could start by reading Wikipedia:Criticism: "Editors should avoid having a separate section in an article devoted to criticism, controversies, or the like because these sections call undue attention to negative viewpoints. Instead, articles should present positive and negative viewpoints from reliable sources together, fairly, proportionately, and without bias."

Our articles on George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon contain no 'criticism' sections. And neither for that matter does our article on Condoleezza Rice - it has a section entitled 'Public perception and criticism', but that is a different thing. Or come to that, out article on Adolph Hitler. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:25, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree that Wikipedia may be losing it's NPOV and having visited the Hillary R. Clinton talk page it is very evident there. To help address this issue I am pushing for the activation of Wikipedia NPOV policy in Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. In the last 8 years, apparently, certain sources have been outright banned no matter the context or use case. Which is, of course, a violation of policy. If policy is not restored I fear we may lose Wikipedia as a reputable source in all cases. If we, in policy as well as action, turn into another echo chamber I fear that all hope is lost for this once proud and impartial organization. Endercase (talk) 19:19, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

You think InfoWars is a reliable source? Is that because you didn't find a "Criticism" section there? ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 19:25, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

I need some information.

Dear sir, My purpose of writing this request is that i need some information about thing that has troubled me for some time, in my country.Which i find it difficult to understand now. one of this problem is unemployment. pleas tell me what to do...G-MYMY (talk)1234 — Preceding undated comment added 16:56, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

If you're interested in learning about unemployment statistics for your country, you may have better luck at the Reference Desk. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 21:26, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Dispute involves both content and user conduct--best avenue?

Hi. I'm involved in a multi-editor dispute (five longstanding, three current) that's been going on for months. Most of the parties involved have been within the bell curve of reasonable, but one guy is a real problem: He's written some biased noticeboard filings and refused to change them, undermined attempts to resolve the dispute, and demanded to see precedents, sources and policies only to ignore or denigrate them once they were found to be contrary to his position. None of that's specifically against the rules, though. He also has his complaints about me. While this is primarily a content dispute, I feel that I and other editors could have come to a mutually acceptable solution by now if not for his efforts (or at least proceeded toward one in a less dramatic manner). Again, he probably feels similarly about me. Should I seek resolution here or elsewhere? Like I said, most of the stuff he's doing isn't specifically against the rules, so this isn't about reporting anyone for an infraction. I want someone who can help me work with this guy, more like a moderator or referee. Like I said, he has his complaints about me too. Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:58, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Large, complex disputes like that aren't likely to be resolved here. I like to think of EAR as the ANI of content disputes; it's best suited for things where there's a clear answer or can otherwise be dealt with summarily. You might try WP:DRN or WP:MEDCOM. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 15:34, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

CLIO AWARDS

In reading your editorial on THE CLIO AWARDS please be advised that I, Sandra Inbody-Brick, was hired by Ruth Ratny as the Executive Producer of THE NEW CLIO AWARDS. I was the Executive Producer of the LOS ANGELES ADVERTISING CLUB'S BELDING AWARDS for eleven years and recognized nationally for that event. During that time I had elevated the Belding Awards in both entries and attendance at the Awards Show. On March 22, 1987 the show was held at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion at the Music Center with over 2,000 people in attendance.

As you have accurately reported on June 13, 1991 the Advertising Industry's best know award show explodes into a frenzy in which attendees storm the stage and steal Clio Awards. On August 19, 1991 Clio owner Bill Evans has turned to a small Wall Street firm to find investors for the awards show and insists "There will be a Clio's for 1992."

On September 27, 1991 Ruth Ratny's Screen Intl., the Chicago-based publisher of Screen Magazine, purchases the Clio trademark for $10,000.00, and on February 17, 1992 ADWEEK'S headline story was, "INBODY-BRICK GETS THE HONOR OF PRODUCING 1992 CLIO AWARDS." The story was written by Betsy Sharkey, who today is a movie and film editor with the LA TIMES.

It's content is as follows: LOS ANGELES - Ad vet Sandy Inbody-Brick, who has produced awards shows in the West for nearly a decade, has been named executive producer of the 1992 Clio Awards. Resurrecting the Clios will be a formidable task. The once-coveted Clios were debased last year when then-owner Bill Evans never arrived at the show, leaving a caterer to emcee and the bills unpaid. The show ended with angry contenders rushing to the stage. Chicago-Based Ruth Ratny bought the name after the fiasco and began trying to rebuild. "I was at the Belding judging last weekend," says Inbody-Brick, referring to the Ad Club of L.A.'s show which she has produced for one years. "Sitting with judges from around the country, I heard a lot about what they thought needed to be fixed with the Clios."

On September 4, 1992 the Los Angeles Times article by Bruce Horovitz "HELLO CLIO, WHAT'S NEW?" also raised the issue of whether or not the event would take place at all. It's content-in-paart is as follows: "Clio, with the help of two ad women, is desperately trying to re-sell itself in a new and improved package and repairs an image tattered last year when one gathering erupted in a statue-grabbing ruckus and another ceremony was canceled because the Clio-owner couldn't pay his bills. The 1992 Awards Ceremony is scheduled for September 15 in New York City's Waldorf-Astoria Hotel. To produce the show Ratny , has turned to Los Angeles ad woman Sandra Inbody-Brick who is best known for producing the last 10 Belding Award shows, the West Coast's top advertising competition. Inbody-Brick implemented new standards for judging the competition. In the past, the judging was loosely run and criticized for its lack of organization. "If the Clios falls flat on its face this year, I know it's my face that will be flattened." Most ad executives say they expect they the Clios will survive. But, if the Clio Awards is another flop again this year, said adman Phil Dusenberry, "you can kiss it goodbye forever."

Well, the show went on with Tony Randall as the host and there were over 500 advertising people in the audience! It was a success and the Clio's are still going strong. I played a significant role in bringing them back after the fiasco and would appreciate that information being included in your commentary on the Clio Awards.

Sincerely,

Sandra Inbody-Brick ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandra Alhadeff (talk • contribs) 18:46, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

I have taken the liberty of copying the foregoing to Talk:Clio Awards/Archives/2014#Edit request along with a {{edit request}} tag. A reviewer will eventually consider it there. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 21:45, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

The Family Man movie page

Just wanted to inform someone the page is mixed up with The Family Guy cartoon in listing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert L. Wilkinson (talk • contribs) 08:20, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Assistance Request to add Reference in SIF page

Dear Editors , found a reliable source and would like to add in page Save Indian Family . Can any one hlpe me as i unable to add the same due to limited knowledge. SIF Network NGo Ruproy1972 (talk) 06:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

See WP:CITE for full, easy to follow instructions. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:22, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

How to request for a review on a document IN sandbox

after your done editing in your "sandbox", how do we move forward to requesting the editorial team to review it? Thanks guys!

Probenciano (talk) 02:55, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

@Probenciano: I've added a box at the top of Draft:Joe Phoenix with a "Submit for review" button. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:13, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Probenciano (talk) Thanks so much @John of Reading —Preceding undated comment added 07:22, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

The page I created is deleted.

I have been trying to create a page about Sushmita Banerjee, a noted Indian Classical danseuse. However, the has been deleted due to lack of reference. Vidushi Sushmita Banerjee is a renowned artiste and have a commendable presence on the internet. I can't figure out what I am doing wrong. Please help. Madhulinabardhan (talk) 15:29, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

What page has been deleted? I don't see any deletion messages on your talk page. This is your only edit. However, if she is a noted and renowned classical dancer, there should be third-party articles about her that you can cite to establish her artistic notability. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:35, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

@Madhulinabardhan: The article was at Sushmita Banerjee (Kathak Exponent). It was deleted a few times for promotion, which is entirely correct. It included a bunch of language like "...one of the most distinguished...", "...revived the Katha Shaili of Kathak under the able guidance...", "...graded artiste...". There were several decent-looking references listed, and it's possible we could have an appropriate article on this individual, but it must be written in a neutral, not promotional, tone. Also, the massive list of performances, accomplishments, etc., is not necessary. If there are a few that are extensively noted in reliable sources, those could be noted in the article text. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 07:14, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Two book pages deleted

Almost immediately after I created two book pages, they were nominated for deletion. The pages both cited several reviews that were independent of the books, the first requirement of notability. I feel strongly that the sources themselves were notable. One of the books, for example, was featured for an entire episode of Glenn Beck's television program. Glenn Beck may be right wing, but he is obviously notable. Some claimed that Glenn Beck was not notable as a reference and was "self published," for example. Other sources were right wing, as well, including the New American and the Western Journalism Center. It is my understanding that "right wing bias" is not a disqualification for notability, just as "left-wing bias" would not be a disqualification (as I pointed out on the deletion page). The pages were: Barack Obama and the Enemies Within and The Enemies Within: Communists, Socialists and Progressives in the U.S. Congress."ReneeNal (talk) 06:46, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

These two articles were deleted as the result of an articles for deletion discussion. You are correct that we would not delete an article for being about a right-wing subject; we certainly have articles on Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and other notable right-wing figures. However, notability is not inherited. The fact that these individuals mentioned something would not make that thing notable. It appears that the clear consensus at those deletion discussions was that there are not at this time sufficient references available to maintain those articles. We generally want to see a pretty good range of sources to help maintain neutrality. You can try speaking with the closer of the discussions or requesting a deletion review, but given the clear consensus at the discussions in question, that's very unlikely to change the result. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 07:20, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your response. Were you able to see the actual articles? The references in this case would not apply as "inherited." The various independent (albeit right-wing) articles (and an entire television episode with a syndicated radio host) are way more than mentions. I would like to appeal these deletions. Can you advise?ReneeNal (talk) 16:43, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

I already "advised". Speak to the deleting admins first, go to DRV if you can't come to agreement with them. Like I said, I don't give you good odds, but that's the route to appeal if you want to. My own views of the articles aren't relevant since they were thoroughly reviewed by the discussion participants. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 16:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Tsunesaburō Makiguchi

Discussion moved

 – Moved to the main EAR page. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 04:53, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Even though I have retired from en.wikipedia this edit has caught my attention [6]. In the talk page the reasons for the edit has been given as follows: [7]. Besides the fact that the edit as such is purely POV it also defies logic. How can a group founded in the twentieth century predate a group originally founded in the late nineteenth century?? Besides that the edit deletes well-resourced material. The reason for me turning to this noticeboard is that I am officially banned from articles relating to Nichiren Buddhism. For that reason I decided to retire … none the less I fear that certain articles on the subject are being white washed yet again. --Catflap08 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia

There are few things that must be added to Wikipedia.

Like wiki help- which can help people for doing anything.

Wiki IMDb- which details the movie.

I want to take initiative for this. ShubhamPrasad007 (talk) 04:48, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

@ShubhamPrasad007: This is the wrong forum for this, wikihelp is already there in the form of wikihow, and the IMDb already covers the IMDb. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 04:56, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Infoempresa deleted page

Good morning, I wanted to clarify that Infoempresa is not unambiguously promotional, because it´s content is purely informational, based solely on the company´s business purpose and services. In this sense, several information sources have been included which portray the existence, acknowledgement and use of this service, coming from independent, objective sources (the media). Moreover, the content is purely information based and avoids all sorts of vocabulary which appeals to the quality of the service or that of Infoempresa - being a neutral, unintentional language. It´s also worth noting that the service´s social media profiles have been removed to avoid confussion concerning the intentionality of this service, which is purely informational. Lastly, its worth noting that other sector peers have their page which in terms of content is virtually the same as that of Infoempresa, such as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIX_Financial_Information. Many thanks I would be grateful if you could provide some advice in order for the content to be suffiently suitable. Although it´s already framed through neutral language angle. 10:28, 28 December 2016 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clara de las Heras (talk • contribs)

What you're saying has nothing to do with this page, which is for the purpose of improving Editor assistance/requests, and will receive no response. If you wish to appeal a deletion, follow the procedures set out here. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:11, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Template request: Refer to living person with indirect microbiographical data

(moved to Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Template_suggestion:_Refer_to_living_person_with_indirect_microbiographical_data at suggestion of TransporterMan (TALK) ) Linux_dr 6:47, 10 Febuary 2017 (UTC)

List of PlayStation 4 games released on disc

The article "List of PlayStation 4 games released on disc" on this site is missing 4 games that I own on disc: Assassin's Creed Chronicles, Transformers Devastation, Megaman Legacy Collection, and Tales From The Borderlands. Sorry but I feel I'd have to learn a language to add these myself and I simply don't believe it's worth it. It's also missing Dishonored: Death Of The Outsider, Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus, and The Evil Within 2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.45.65.161 (talk) 18:38, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

New Article

Hello, I was wondering if anybody could make an article on the Youtuber AbrowGaming, he was born on the 13/2/2004 and his real name is Ayden Brown, please contact me if you need any more information as I know everything about myself

AbrowGaming (talk) 01:59, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Make your request at WP:RA. Be sure to read and follow the instructions there. - TransporterMan (TALK) 18:23, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Content Adding with COI

Hello - I'm new to adding content to wiki but a long time fan of the encyclopedia. Currently, I work for a newspaper group and we felt -- consider the ages of our individual newspapers, and the community impact of each -- that the encyclopedia should include us. However, after my first article, I was informed about COI, among other things. I want to take all steps to be a contributing member to Wikipedia, but also need to figure out the best way to get a nonbiased, factual representation of the newspapers within your data banks. What would be the best way of doing this while maintaining the integrity of the encyclopedia and also following the applicable rules?

Should I propose a template and content within the talk pages and let others confirm and submit to the actual page by using the "request edit" tag? Should I post a note at the COI noticeboard and just add content as usual? Some combination of both?

Thank you much for your time and consideration.

Jasonsng (talk) 18:28, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Copyviol

Sorry, i need hel in Tata Nano for copyviol, and please merge Tata GenX Nano in Tata Nano because it is the same car. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.98.122.79 (talk) 06:48, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Please help me edit the Caspar Lee page

Hi,

Can a registered editor please me make these changes to the Caspar Lee page. I am his assistant and we'd like to fill out his page a bit. I can't edit it at the moment because it's semi- protected. If any registered editors who can edit the page could please help, I would be very grateful. These are the additions we would like to make with the sources to support them.

Add to Career: In June 2018, Caspar and fellow Youtube Sensation Joe Sugg announced their new management company called Margravine Management where he will take Director’s role. In June of 2018, Lee became the Digital Marketing Director of American Freshman Apparel. Add to Awards and Nominations: In 2018 Lee was nominated and won the Global Award for Social Media Superstar. Add a Philanthropy section:

In 2016, Lee met a young man living with HIV called Lyoiso through the Queen’s Young Leaders program. In 2018 Lee was able to buy a house for him and his family.

In 2017 Lee was invited to be an Ambassador for the Queen’s Young leaders program. A role he’s carried through 2018 and continues to be an advocate for the program. In 2018, having personal experience with Tourette’s, Lee has partnered up with Tourette’s Action to help increase awareness and funding for the syndrome. In 2018, Lee began a scholarship program at his former school in South Africa – Oakhill.

Sources Margravine – https://www.tubefilter.com/2018/06/07/joe-sugg-caspar-lee-margravine-management/ https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/07/joe-sugg-and-caspar-lee-launch-new-company-to-find-the-next-youtube-megastar-7612034/ American Freshman – Please note there was no official press announcement on this position https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMibQ9EmJfw&t=179s https://americanfreshman.com/ Global Award for Social Media Superstar https://www.global.com/awards/video https://www.global.com/awards/winners Lyoiso https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHGd6qZTUz8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMibQ9EmJfw&t=179s Queen’s Young Leaders https://www.queensyoungleaders.com/2018-award-ceremony/ https://www.queensyoungleaders.com/residential-week-2018/ Tourette’s Action https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/tourettes-syndrome-growing-up-what-like-caspar-lee-youtuber-video-a8372956.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZQlch6v3W4&t=1s

Scholarship https://www.ecr.co.za/shows/jane-linley-thomas-show/british-south-african-youtuber-caspar-lee-pays-it-forward-his-hometown/

Shariag (talk) 11:03, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Shariag, You should discuss this at the article talk page, Talk:Caspar Lee. ~ GB fan 12:03, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

You can discuss this on talk page: Talk:Caspar Lee Jayscott253 (talk) 13:31, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Posting as reference songs and similar YouTube content

Raoul Wallenberg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg#Song

After some research found on YouTube a number of songs about famous Swedish diplomat Raoul Wallenberg and added them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Raoul_Wallenberg&oldid=854085125#Songs

It was promptly UNDONE claiming that the songs are irrelevant since there are no reviews (which may be true). I don't know what is Wikipedia's policy in this regard. Seems to me that songs, testimonies, how-to videos, etc. on Wikipedia can be referenced since they represent themselves with or without reviews.

Can someone provide guidance? Thank youEmesz (talk) 21:43, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Editing "dispute"

Dear Friends. I happened to be reading an Ex-Congressman's bestseller, in which he cites recollections of then chief-of-staff Admiral Thomas Moorer, about a visit Moorer had with Mordechai Gur, then Israeli defense attaché to the Israeli embassy. This throws much light on the public character of Gur, so I added a short paragraph describing this revealing episode to the entry: Mordechai Gur. Someone (no name given), deleted it, with the utmost tact and politeness, on the grounds that it is "unsourced garbage." Could an administrator look into the matter and decide how to deal with it? In the meantime, I reverted the entry to my version (It took me more than an hour to make that contribution, and I am convinced that it's informative, accurate, and serves Wikipedia's stated goals). Thanking you in advance,Brachney (talk) 23:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)Brachney

Hello, Brachney. You did not provide a properly formatted inline reference although you mentioned the book in the content you added. Please read Referencing for beginners. The author of that book, Paul Findley, is well known as a harsh critic of Israel, and his opinions may consitute undue weight in a biography of Gur. The content you wrote pushes a point of view and describes opinion as fact. Use of loaded, judgmental words like "disdain", "mere", "demanding" "refused" and "undermining" is not an acceptable style of encyclopedia writing. Please familiarize yourself with the neutral point of view, which is a core Wikipedia content policy. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:46, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

I have reverted your addition and requested that you gain consensus at Talk: Mordechai Gur before adding any such content to this biography. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:54, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Editing dispute due to lack of WP policy re: use of famous university alumni images

This is to request for immediate editor/admin assistance for mediation and arbitration concerning the question: What is or should be the appropriate WP rule, practice or policy regarding images posted on the "Notable People/Alumni" section of any WP university entry/article, AND why is it not applied universally to all university articles with the same exact issue???" Please go to the McGill University Talk page and scroll all the way down to the section titled "Gallery of rich and famous." Two editors yesterday deleted all images of the famous alumni of McGill University shown in its "Notable People" section when, in fact, these are all high-achieving individuals each with a separate WP bio entry. Worse, these two editors would not do the same deletion and editing for hundreds of universities in WP with the same images of their famous alumni under their exactly the same "Notable People/Alumni" section. In short, it is apparent that they are singling out McGill University in the absence of a universal WP rule, practice or policy regarding alumni images on WP university/college articles. We therefore need mediation because the discussion in the Talk page is not being used to reach a consensus and the editors participating there are the same ones who have a conflict of interest by unilaterally deleting all McGill University alumni images while pretending to host a Talk page. Please help settle this matter and establish any pertinent WP policy or practice that will not just be unilaterally and single-handedly applied to one university but to all similarly/exactly situated university articles on WP. Thanks.Tansyderby (talk) 16:45, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

RfC on content concerning illegal fetal tissue dealers

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood_2015_undercover_videos_controversy#/talk/8#/talk/8

I'd love some comments on this. Maybe I misunderstand the Wikipedia policies, but at least some of the content seems relevant. natemup (talk) 16:38, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

A better place for your request would be Editor assistance/Requests. This is the talk page of "Editor assistance/Requests", intended for discussion of how that page operates, not for the requests themselves. But please see Wikipedia's views on soapboxing.   Maproom (talk) 20:52, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Marie Yovanovitch

Off topic. This talk page is for discussion of improvements to this noticeboard. Please place assistance requests on the main page, but remember that this board is to help editors edit, so please request assistance with some specific editing problem. — TransporterMan (TALK) 21:50, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Just read the entry on Marie Yovanovitch, wanted to see if she was partisan or not, but the entry had recently been edited by a fellow named neutrality, who wasn't at all, instead he had edited into the entry a very biased opinion. I can’t say that i agree with an editor have such a partisan viewpoint. John Pere (talk) 04:44, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Advice on correcting excessive footnote references

M-PHY (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

When starting this article, I added a lot of footnote based references to justify the topic as notable. As I'm reviewing it, I think all the footnotes are distracting. How can I best fix this without loosing the supporting references?

Burt Harris (talk) 23:24, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Burt Harris, if an assertion is not in dispute, one or two references are generally sufficient to support that assertion. Ten references all saying the same thing don't really affect notability. If the additional references provide more information, you could use them to expand the article instead of reference bombing a single assertion. So choose the one or two best reliable and independent sources used for each assertion, and remove the rest. If you think other references might be useful in the future, you could list them on the talk page. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 00:12, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

I am requesting your help to remove contentious information about me

I am requesting your help to remove contentious information about me repeatedly posted by https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Shookethnotstirred&action=edit&redlink=1

This person has been consistently writing incorrect and defaming information about me in this site....This is harming my reputation. I tried deleting the bad content but the material came back on to the site again. Also, this person threatened me via email that I would face negative consequences if I continue to make edits to the content he posted... Please help me preserve my reputation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.18.139.141 (talk) 08:03, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

The account has been indefinitly blocked as of today, so they won't be continuing to make changes to the article with that account. If this continues to be a problem I will protect the page, although I'll keep an eye on things first to see if the block is sufficient. - Bilby (talk) 09:13, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Antarctica data

Hallo, I recently corrected some data in Wiki relative to the geographical coordinates of a South Ice Base in Antarctica: it was my first modification intervention in Wiki. Since I am interested in Geography and Antarctica in particular, as well as the flight simulator that I use for three-dimensional geographic surveys, I started a (free) Antarctica4XPlane project with international contributions 6 years ago. I, in particular, have created two multimedia tools that can be used interactively and freely via WEB: - a Catalog made up of PDF files containing information about Antarctic sites (Research Bases, Airports and much more) - an interactive map of Antarctica showing all the sites listed in the Catalog (with a link via the link from the map to the relative card) I was wondering if inserting links to these two tools on the corresponding Wiki pages could be useful. But I would not like that, which I consider an addition of informations, to be unwelcome or not considered pertinent to the chosen setting. Hence this request. Thanks for the attention Antonio Villari

Via de’ Buttieri, 7/2 - 40125 Bologna BO - Italy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Villarinino (talk • contribs) 15:10, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Villarinino, I am glad you asked. (Do note that Wikipedia is not "Wiki"). I am afraid that the answer is probably not. Since it sounds like they're self-made and not reviewed in any way, they probably would not meet the criteria for reliability. However, if you are willing to release them under a free license, they may make a good contribution to Wikimedia Commons. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 21:21, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

How to put infobox in infobox?

Hi, I'm currently working on the article Primrose Hill, and I need to put {{Infobox park}} in {{Infobox UK place}}, but I can't find a module tag in Infobox UK place. Is there any other way to do this? — Yours, Bᴇʀʀᴇʟʏ • ^Talk∕_Contribs 17:20, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Berrely Hello! I don't know how to do that, but when I have troubles with things like that, I try to find the same thing in another article and look at the code there. Hope this was somewhat helpful.:) Less Unless (talk) 21:24, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Help removing unreliable source

The Best Men Can Be (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Hello, I'm Samantha and I work for the public relations firm Ketchum Inc. I submitted a request here to remove use of The Daily Wire from the Wikipedia article The Best Men Can Be. I asked the editor who removed the source from the Gillette article, but this editor has not been active since March 23. Might someone here be able to help? The Daily Wire is specifically mentioned as an unreliable source here. Thank you for reviewing. SPolicanoKetchum (talk) 14:06, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Question about post-nominal letters

Does the current wording of MOS:POSTNOM allow for post-nominals indicating with membership in a religious institute, like S.J. or O.F.M., in the lede of a biography article. Or would it be better to say "... is a member of X religious institute"? There has been some discussion on the MOS talk page, but the discussion involved a very small number of editors and did not result in a change of wording of the MOS, so I am unsure whether or not to follow the actual MOS wording or not. Thanks. --FyzixFighter (talk) 21:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

@FyzixFighter:, I don't think the MOS or its talk page addresses these usages. The MOS is focused almost entirely on the post-nominals carried as honours from a sovereign and is highly context-dependent on the British system of those. The only related discussion that is currently on the talk page I see is about academic degrees. Membership in a Catholic or other religious order is not analogous to either case. My own opinion is that the post-nominals for these orders provide at least as much context and useful information to the reader as, say, the Order of the British Empire. The most recent New Years Honours List announcing new members of that Order ran to over 20 pages yet I've never seen CBE or OBE challenged as "too common" or "not helpful" or anything. The usage of S.J., at least, appears to be widespread and accepted. Francis Xavier, Joseph of Anchieta, John Ogilvie (saint), etc. all use it in the ledes. The article for the current Pope, on the other hand, omits it so it is not an ironclad practice. I hope that helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:01, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Edits Disappear

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Hello,

I have tried editing a page twice now but, both times, my edits disappear after a few minutes when I reload the page. I even had a message after the first attempt, acknowleging my edits. Then they were gone!

What I did was log in, make the edits, and click on Publish. Am I doing something wrong? Have I missed something out?

Thanks, Ian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miracleian (talk • contribs) 13:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Your edits did not "disappear" per se, they were removed by another editor. See the history page for that article to see what happened. If you believe that the reasons for removal were inadequate, post your argument for your edits in a new section at the bottom of the article talk page and ask for discussion. If after thorough discussion you still cannot come to a resolution, consider dispute resolution. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:35, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Two featured list removal discussions at the same time

I opened a new discussion for a featured list removal without realising that the old one (where discussion had come to a standstill) had not been closed. Could some admin be so kind and proceed now with what has to be done in this case (merge, close or redirect)? Gun Powder Ma (talk) 11:07, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Request for creation of graphical timeline for 'List of WWE television programming' page

Hello there. My sincere apologies if I'm in the wrong section for this; it's my first time making a request for something like this.

I would like to request the creation of a graphical chronological timeline be created for the TV show history of the 'List of WWE television programming' page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_television_programming).

I am referring to the kind of timeline you usually see for members of a band (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fleetwood_Mac_members#Timeline). Another good example I can give is the default Wikipedia timeline format on the 'Timeline Of Star Trek' page, just above this section (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Star_Trek#Timeline - actual graph: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/16725c41321f13f8312feb50a2bb1f3f.png)

I did try to look at how to create this myself, but I do not understand programming/coding so it's like it's another language to me. Hence why I am asking if someone would have time and be kind enough to help create one. I would be in your debt. Dan

GodzFire (talk) 17:47, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Frank Spotnitz page - persistent errors

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Spotnitz

Frank Spotnitz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Over the past few years, I've noticed that someone has been sabotaging Frank Spotnitz's Wikipedia page. There was a complete page of accurate info about three or four years ago, which was then mysteriously taken down, even though the info was all correct and verifiable on other internet sources like IMDb. Another user then put up a very brief, concise bio, which has been wrongly re-written several times by the following users:

RATAJMIRO 109.66.97.97 Myrefoclock 79.183.2.39 109.65.51.201 - this user is constantly editing Jewish people's pages on Wikipedia or making them out to be Jewish

For some reason they seem to want to comment on Frank's status as a Jew, which is both weird and irrelevant. Every time a user corrects the information, these users sabotage the correction.

How can the page be corrected for good, without fear that someone will write inappropriate information on Frank Spotnitz? Many other television writers and producers have long, flawless pages that aren't subject to the same disruption.

Hande2020 (talk) 14:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I spot-checked some - not all - of the edits by the users you name and none of them seemed to me to be blatantly inappropriate and the sources cited seemed to be reliable. There's no "corrected for good" at Wikipedia, everything is established by consensus and consensus can change at any time. The closest you can probably get to that is to, first, discuss the issues that you object to on the article talk page and seek to come to consensus. If you cannot, then try a request for comments. If you get a strong consensus one or the other of those ways, then it will be hard for anyone to change it (particularly in the short run) since a new consensus will have to be formed. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

After creating Page

I created a page; however, I am unable to find it since published. Please advise! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drnorm1 (talk • contribs) 14:15, April 15, 2020 (UTC)

@Drnorm1:, you have not made any edits under this user name besides the request above. We cannot give you specific advice because you do not indicate what the article was or where you attempted to create it. Please be more specific in your request and then we possibly could help you. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:24, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Help in a 'contested deletion' response in WP:CSD case

Hi, I require help in a 'contested deletion' response for Draft talk:OnePageCRM. I took the WP:CSD action on basis of WP:G11 after being declined for same reasons earlier. Do I need to do anything or the deleting administrator will take the decision? Please help. Thank you. Amkgp (talk) 12:53, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

The "speedy deletion" has been cancelled. The draft is now awaiting review. When it is eventually reviewed, it is likely to be declined on the grounds that it fails to establish the subject as notable.   Maproom (talk) 15:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Can I receive editor advice on a topic before creating a page?

Hello,

I am interested in writing a Wikipedia page on a subject I have studied and followed over the last couple years. However, I want to make sure that in approaching this topic, I don't run afoul of content standards, most notably Notability-Temporary. Is there a way to receive feedback from Wikipedia editors before beginning a page?

Noersark (talk) 23:57, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, you can ask for feedback, here or elsewhere. But you'll have to tell us the subject of your proposed article. The most likely problem will be with notabilty. Original research may also be an issue. Maproom (talk) 15:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Diploma mills

I know of a Christian organization that claims to give you a diploma from an uncredited college it’s called the Jerusalem prophecy college it’s ran by Irvin Baxter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.32.120.17 (talk • contribs)

This page is to discuss editing Wikipedia, not for use as a general discussion forum. Did you have questions in regards to making edits about that subject? Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 15:51, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Add a name to the crimson alum list...

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Josh Sharfstein '91

Only if you can provide a reliable source and say what a "crimson alum list" is. Better yet, since Wikipedia is the encyclopedia anyone can edit, why don't you do it yourself, provided that you have a reliable source as defined by Wikipedia? Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:21, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Asking for technical help to solve issue with charts format

Template:Graph:Chart (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi. I would like to ask for some technical assistance in solving an annoying problem with the Template:Graph:Chart: briefly said, it is possible to format the x-axis as a "date" axis, however this works perfectly if the graph is of type "line" i.e. as a continuous line, while it breaks if the graph is of type "rect" i.e. as a bar chart. An additional issue is that it also breaks when defining an x-axis range though xmin and xmax, again only with the "date" type. You could join the discussion in the talk page. Thanks, --Ritchie92 (talk) 10:13, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Looking for help to editing this wikipedia page (Being able to read Russian is a plus)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murat_Khasanov

Probably the great Sambo practitioner of all time. Need help in adding in as much relevant details as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.6.22.101 (talk) 07:04, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

I suggest you ask for help by creating a new section on Talk:Murat Khasanov and list what details you think should be added. You can then also update the {{WikiProject Russia}} to add |attention=yes to ask knowledgeable editors to help. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 04:17, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Uganda is not on the list of Coronavirus. Bestes turkey there's U.S them ukraine no ug

Uganda not on the alphabetic list of covid 19 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.210.147.18 (talk) 10:45, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Insufficient information. What list? — TransporterMan (TALK) 17:08, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Uganda is included in the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic by country and territory article. What is the name of the article that does NOT include Uganda? GoingBatty (talk) 04:20, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

English versions of non-english wiki pages

A notable person has been revered to in several articles and it is important for users to be able to identify them. I would like to create an article on this individual in the English Wikipedia. Thankfully I am confident an article already exists on a non-english version of wikipedia. How do I find it? My problem is that since the article does not exist on the English wikipedia I cannot simply follow a link to find it. Furthermore I cannot find the relevant article on the non-english wiki (if it exists) because the English translation of the individuals name does not return any results; nor do machine translations of the individuals name (a common issue due to anglization).

If I can find the relevant article in the non-English wikipedia I can use the sources after verifying them and find relevant information. Regards.Willthewanderer (talk) 07:07, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Answered

Good question, Willthewanderer. There are two ways. If you can guess the likely languages an existing Wikipedia article is written in, you can search for them at https://www.wikipedia.org/ and select the possible language. But the better way is simply to Google search the person's name, and include a domain-search command. It would look like this: "personsname site:wikipedia.org" I often find doing that too fiddly, so I get quicker and seemingly just as good results just by typing "personsname wiki", and Google's magic does the rest, showing me different language wikipedia results all on one page. Hope this helps. (Next time, do think about giving us the actual name, or page links, as we can help you better that way.) Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:54, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your for your prompt response Mr. Moyes, it is appreciated.

Unfortunately the person in question's native language does not use Latin characters; thus searching the phonetic English equivalent did not and was unlikely to yield results; nor did google.

Many common names in languages which do not use Latin characters and/or is tonal have multiple possible phonetic translations and may even be transliterated; thus these people are likely to assume an "English name" which would not generally appear in native language sources.

While it is possible that there is no article, I would be very much surprised if this was the case.

Regards

--Willthewanderer (talk) 11:03, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Willthewanderer: It sounds like you don't want to give the name of this person - so not a lot more we can do to help you. But if you do find in-depth, reliable sources about them, then you are free to start to draft an article yourself. (See WP:YFA and WP:AFC for help). Remember that each language Wikipedia has differing requirements for Notability, but we do not require sources to be in English...though it helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:23, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Edits the the entry on chimpanzee expert Dr Jane Goodall

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I spent 30 minutes correcting multiple errors of spelling on this page and they were all rejected. A brief glance through the entry in question will show that it needs major corrections so perhaps somebody can take it o and not have their time wasted

None of the recent edits to Jane Goodall are by you, unless you signed in to do those edits, and none of the recent edits to that article by anyone appear to be mere spelling errors. (And all edits to Wikipedia are logged and saved even if they are subsequently removed or rejected.) Unless that’s not the right article, my best guess is that you didn’t properly save your edits. I can only recommend that you try again. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC) PS: I believe that I now see the problem. The editing rights of editors who do not log in (“IP editors”) is limited. If you did not create an account and use it enough to become autoconfirmed, that is if you attempted to edit as an IP editor or as an logged-in but not yet autoconfirmed editor, then your edits were, indeed, rejected because that article is clearly marked as semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed editors can edit it. (That’s usually because the article is being damaged by things like vandalism coming from IP editors.) If you disregarded that notice and spent time editing it anyway as an IP editor, then you wasted your own time. It is relatively easy to become autoconfirmed: Just create an account, log in, and then make just 10 edits to unprotected articles over a period of 4 days. Then whenever you log in to edit, the system will recognize you as autoconfirmed and allow you to do most things an IP editor cannot. (There are some particularly controversial articles and areas where you must achieve “extended confirmed” status by having 500 edits over 30 days in order to edit them, but Jane Goodall is not one of them.) - TransporterMan (TALK) 16:31, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

What TM said, and you can also make suggestions at Talk:Jane Goodall. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Note that the article uses British English; if you;re using some other form, like American English, your spellings will be different; but those in the article are not wrong, and should not be changed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:09, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Specific Source Link to Library

Miss K8

So I am not really experienced with editing articles but added some info to improve this article. I have added a source to support the info that's from a musical rights association library Buma Stemra titelcatalogus. But the link grabbed from library only posts directly to the library instead of the actual search results to the support this info. Is there a way to get a specific link that directly goes to the relevant search results. There's also another problem I run into a unknown editor who constantly removes the information claiming false sources. Can a moderator take a look at this? SjakePaak (talk) 09:02, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

@SjakePaak: The right place for you and Cassicatsaros to talk about improving the Miss K8 article is at the corresponding talk page: Talk:Miss K8. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:34, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate your answer. Can you give me some tips about the firs question I asked?SjakePaak (talk) 08:01, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@SjakePaak: I'm not familiar with the http://www.bumastemra.nl/over-bumastemra/titelcatalogus/ website. Could you please give an example? In other articles, I have seen references where they link to the search page and then give instructions on what to enter in the particular fields so the user can get the correct result. GoingBatty (talk) 15:36, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@SjakePaak: See the last reference in Touch Me (The Doors song) for an example of search instructions within a reference. GoingBatty (talk) 19:06, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@SjakePaak:, please justify the reliability of this source before adding it again. Thanks, Sam-2727 (talk) 23:13, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@Sam-2727: I will leave it for what it is as the general search results do not come out reliably as a legit source. I have added only info that is. SjakePaak (talk) 11:18, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

SjakePaak, thanks. Sam-2727 (talk) 13:16, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Nathan Rutstein

Why is there no page on Nathan Rutstein? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.88.173.25 (talk) 11:58, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Are you asking about the subject of this obituary? Maproom (talk) 12:28, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Pronouns

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About the artists, musicians, historians, etc. can you put their pronouns in the bio as well? Please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.242.125.51 (talk) 07:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

By "pronouns" I presume that you mean "preferred pronouns". We can only include information which is reported in reliable sources as defined by Wikipedia, so that's the first limitation. Second, there's generally no standard for what particular information is or is not required to be included in articles; there's some standards on some things that cannot be included (see, for example, WP:BLP) and the quality of information that can be included (especially in regard to living persons, see that last link), but very few or no standards on what must be included. That's kind of in keeping with the base philosophy of Wikipedia that it's the encyclopedia anyone can edit. (You may find various wikiprojects which seem to set such standards such as WikiProject Women artists, but those pages are just advice that anyone can take or leave at their choice, not rules that must be obeyed.) But that's just about including material listing what pronouns they prefer. We do have policy about what pronouns that we actually use in writing articles, however. You can see that policy (it's actually a "guideline", kind of like a less-strict policy) at MOS:IDENTITY. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:30, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Help removing unsourced text

Hello! I'm Caroline, and I work for Dish Network (as disclosed on my profile page and article talk pages). I've been working with editors at Talk:Dish Network to propose updates and other improvements to the company's Wikipedia article. Following User:Spintendo's help removing WP:UNSOURCED text from the main DISH page, I submitted a request here to remove unsourced text from the Criticism of Dish Network page. Are any editors here willing to review the request? Thanks in advance! CK-DISH (talk) 16:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

CK-DISH, once you have finished writing your suggestion, copy and paste exactly this: {{request edit}} with your proposal. That will add the request to a list of them requiring review and it will be checked in due course. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 15:55, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Seraphimblade Thanks for the suggestion. I have used the "request edit" template on both Talk:Dish Network and Talk:Criticism of Dish Network but neither request has received a response in weeks. Are you able to review either request, or is there another space to ask editors for assistance? CK-DISH (talk) 14:57, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

This is a volunteer project. You have placed the templates correctly. They will get reviewed when they get reviewed. Being pushy is not something appreciated from a paid editor. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 12:47, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Seraphimblade Ok thanks, I just wanted to make sure I was using the template correctly. Thanks for confirming! CK-DISH (talk) 16:46, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Uyghur American Association

Hello all- I wanted to check in with the community at large and see how this page is doing so far. I have tried to improve the article based on feedback from other users on my talk page but I would like to get further input from users, especially anybody that doesn't know much about this subject. Geographyinitiative (talk) 02:33, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Edits to Trivium (band) being rejected without adequate discussion

Trivium (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

TL;DR: I made some changes to the article, and backed up my discussion with Wikipedia guidelines, but my points have been shut down with hostile messages and I can't restore the changes because I don't want to get into an edit war.

I've made a number of changes to this page (outlined in the talk section here: Talk:Trivium (band)#Revert of good faith edits). These were reverted by User:Tobi999tomas with no discussion, then after I tried to discuss but got no response I restored them, and they were reverted again. After this the other editor said why they made the changes, and I responded. The next day with no response I restored the changes again (after reading the guidelines I now see I should not have done this, and at the very least I should have waited longer (I had left a message on their talk page and made sure they'd been active in the meantime before making the change), so I apologise for this).

This was reverted with the rather hostile edit message "I already told you, there is nothing to say anymore." We had some discussion on the talk page, and I cited the relevant wikipedia guidelines to back up my changes, but the other editor did not listen to my points and told me to stop discussing it with the message "So stop this, cause you already said that you don't want any edit war, and you are causing one." (when asking the user for discussion on their talk page I had said that I wanted to resolve the matter in a civil manner and would not get into an edit war). There has now been no response for a couple of days.

I feel like my changes have been completely shut down without adequate consideration, despite them helping to solve the improvement tags in the article. As a new user this experience has been incredibly frustrating and unpleasant, but I don't want to just forget about it because I really want to improve the article (Trivium is one of my favourite bands). Any help/advice about how to resolve this is much appreciated. Note that I previously requested a third opinion on the content, but that was rejected because another editor had responded to one of the points and there were multiple issues being discussed.

Many thanks, Quuxbazbarfoo (talk) 17:17, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Quuxbazbarfoo! I'm ignorant of the topic, but in your case I'd try WP:APPNOTE or WP:3O. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:42, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Visual editor not option

I was using the visual editor but now only the source editor is showing. Any ideas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.101.53 (talk) 20:09, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Clarity on why a page has not been reviewed and indexed after one month of creation

I created this page Interior Designers Association of Nigeria about a month ago and it is yet to reviewed or indexed by any the admins. Is there something I am doing wrong? --Ememdee (talk) 09:50, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Timeline of historic inventions - unexplained reversions, other than stating WP:BRD.

A couple of explanation free WP:BRD reversions have been made to the Timeline of historic inventions, that reinstate erroneous text. The editor has not responded to an invitation to discuss / explain his actions on either his own, or the articles talk page.

The page also has numerous entries that require either a non-generic date, and [[WP:RS] citation, or removal.

Does someone fancy taking a look / sticking a suitable template on the page?

A.j.roberts (talk) 12:02, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Need help understanding credibility of sources/notability and input on correct writing style.

I am inexperienced and stumbling around - would appreciate guidance. The page in question is Drew Chicone Please see the talk page, my talk page and the AfD talk page for more information/background. I am trying to improve the page and meet the guidelines but I do not know much and I don't feel like I am getting much guidance or answers to my questions. I would appreciate some help from editors who would be willing to help guide me. I am willing to read/research, I am not asking someone to just do it for me. I am open to discussion via email as well. Thank you. Mlepisto (talk) 18:42, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Mlepisto, if you want the article to be saved from deletion, you're going to have to establish that Chicone is notable, by citing several reliable independent published sources with in-depth discussion of him. Not passing mentions, not articles based on press releases, not articles based on what he said himself. Maybe you've already cited some sources like that; but when they're hidden among dozens of worthless references, editors contributing to the Article for Deletion discussion are likely to miss them. References are judged on quality, not quantity. If you haven't found four good sources, then find them. And get rid of all the worthless ones – they're not actually against Wikipedia policy, but they certainly weaken your chance of having the article accepted. Four good references, maybe even three if that's all you can find, will be better than the 30 currently cited in the article. Maproom (talk) 21:24, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Maproom - this has been the first piece of actual guidance I have been offered. I have perhaps incorrectly understood that "multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability" would benefit from these additional sources and that Chicone has received awards for his work as both a creative professional (outdoor writing) and is widely cited by peers within his industry that it would benefit from the additional sources to help establish that. The industry is small, and so are the number of peers. I have been feeling that it is very difficult for someone inexperienced like myself to determine what is a "good" source to establish that based on the fact fly fishing is not a sport that a significant portion of the world population participate in so peer citations and publications are ignored because they are not on the same level as national media and household names. Thank you again. Mlepisto (talk) 22:13, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Where should I put supplementary information?

I'm writing an article on programming language A. This language tests programs written in programming language B.

Occasionally, it would be useful to show a program in language B, to allow the reader to reproduce the test. However, this article is not about language B, and adding code in language B will reduce the article's readability.

So, here's the question: is there somewhere I can "hide away" supplementary information like this? In principle, I could put it on an external website, and just add something like "click here to see the program in language B". However, this is obviously not the right thing to do, so can you suggest any alternatives? Is there somewhere on wikipedia I can upload short files, for example? Or should I put this in an appendix (if so, can you point me to an article which does something similar so I can see how it's done)?

Thank you. Dock3230 (talk) 19:22, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

You can do this:

Interesting content ......

Boring technical details
boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring boring

More interesting stuff.

Maproom (talk) 21:30, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

"to allow the reader to reproduce the test" means that you are getting way beyond what we do here in Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a place for how-to articles or technical manuals. That kind of material, if it has a place in any Wikimedia project, belongs in WikiSource. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:38, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

@Maproom - great - thanks.

@Orange Mike - noted, thanks. I'm following the templates for other programming languages, which generally have an 'examples' section. My examples don't make much sense without at least some B code, but maybe it makes sense just to omit the B code for clarity anyway. Dock3230 (talk) 09:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Stefan Molyneux

Dear Sir / Madam,

I have been a long time follower of Stefan Molyneux and I was shocked to see the level of inaccuracies on his page. It looks as though he has been the target of politically motivated sabotage which shows him in a grossly unfair and unbalanced, ill informed light. The page is unavailable for editing which suggests corrupt practice within the inner workings of Wikipedia itself. Please unlock this profile.

Hello! The place to suggest changes to that article is Talk:Stefan Molyneux. Take the time to read WP:Biographies of living persons, and try to make your suggestions inline with that, it will increase the chance of you having an impact. WP:NOTNEUTRAL may also be of help. Try to be specific (and don't try to do everything at once) and provide WP:RS for stuff you want to include. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:12, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

However, the article being WP:SEMIprotected leading you to "suggests corrupt practice" does not bode well. Avoid speculating about other editors motives on-WP, it will not help you at all. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:21, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Max W. Noah

Could someone please assist me with the issue raised on my talk page? It concerns copyright, conflict of interest and encyclopedic style. I haven't managed to put a reply together yet and am getting stressed about it. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:36, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Answered

 – I've written a response

Alpha3031 (t • c) 08:29, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

How to make something be shown only during a certain timeframe.

I'm making a status template and I want to make it show "sleeping" between two certain times, but I can't figure out how. Can someone help? — Yours, Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 07:10, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

My first article

For some reason I'm having trouble with changing my title. I wish the new title to be Civilization VI New Frontier Pass — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph adolfus (talk • contribs) 11:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

If someone were to move User:Joseph adolfus/sandbox to Civilization VI New Frontier Pass, it would probably get deleted, as not demonstrating that its subject is notable. While it's in your sandbox, you can work on it and improve it. Or you might do better to add a section on it to Civilization VI.   Maproom (talk) 17:03, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Request for creation of graphical timeline for 'List of WWE television programming' page

Hello there. My sincere apologies if I'm in the wrong section for this; it's my first time making a request for something like this.

I would like to request the creation of a graphical chronological timeline be created for the TV show history of the 'List of WWE television programming' page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_television_programming).

I am referring to the kind of timeline you usually see for members of a band (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fleetwood_Mac_members#Timeline). Another good example I can give is the default Wikipedia timeline format on the 'Timeline Of Star Trek' page, just above this section (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Star_Trek#Timeline - actual graph: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/16725c41321f13f8312feb50a2bb1f3f.png)

I did try to look at how to create this myself, but I do not understand programming/coding so it's like it's another language to me. Hence why I am asking if someone would have time and be kind enough to help create one. I would be in your debt. Dan

If someone could PM me letting me know they saw this, it would be appreciated.

GodzFire (talk) 00:57, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Finding past questions, avoiding duplicate references, using

In Editing User:Memdmarti/sandbox 1) I have the same article referenced twice and it has two numbers in the reference list. How do I make it have only one reference in the list? 2) General question: where do I look for questions like this?  / 3) generates a reference on the stillbestrol page but I cannot make it work. What am I doing wrong? 4) Am I sending this to the wrong address? Memdmarti (talk) 01:21, 23 May 2020 (UTC) - See Memdmarti/sandbox

1. See Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Repeated_citations
2. Try Wikipedia:Teahouse and Wikipedia:Help desk.
3. Is this about the Stilbestrol article (note the spelling)? I don't see the string "18892822" anywhere there.
4. You have asked your questions on a suitable page. Wikipedia:Teahouse and Wikipedia:Help desk would also work (and are busier, so would probably get an answer sooner).

Maproom (talk) 06:46, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

References

Altering articles subject and theme

There is an article Strategic human resource planning which contains the sub heading "Strategic human resource management", however managerial science connotes that Management is a bigger term than Planning and ideally Strategic Human Resource Management should be the heading and Strategic Human Resource Planning should be a sub component of it. Any suggestions? Yourmasterishere (talk) 16:49, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

WP:PROPORTION at Bon Secours Sisters

Bon Secours Sisters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Could someone please advise me on my talk page as to the appropriate procedure to address, as delicately as possible, a question re WP:BALASP and WP:PROPORTION on the Bon Secours Sisters page. The material in dispute is covered at length in three other articles. Over 22% of the article supposedly about the congregation is also devoted to the same subject and largely duplicates verbatim material in the other articles. It was my understanding that a brief summary with a link to the Main (or all of them) would be appropriate, but this has been disputed by another editor who has contributed substantially to the other three articles. This has been discussed at length on the Talk page. A notice on the project page may have elicited one response. "Third-opinion", does not apply. Never mind, another user has taken it to ANI. Thank you. Manannan67 (talk) 06:50, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Foliate

I got my edit reverted when I tried to publish a new article over an existing redirect. My contact with the other editor is not as productive as I would have wished and is starting to escalate. As I understand it, there should still be some link from Foliate, even if I publish under a different (bracketed) title. I implemented what I thought was the right solution, but he keeps complaining about existing links where people would then have to click through instead of being forwarded immediately. I am looking for a viable solution. I have no other idea, except for turning the redirect into a disambiguation page, which should make no difference to him.--Kulandru mor (talk) 10:41, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Kulandru mor: Dealt with at the Teahouse. Please don't waste volunteer time by asking the same question in two different venues. It's not unreasonable for you to wait more than 24 hours before going to another venue. Nick Moyes (talk) 18:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

list talk page watchers

I feel like I should know the answer to this but I can't figure it out or remember it. If you go to the analysis page of a talk page, eg., Xtools for the Dashboard, then it tells you the number of talk page watchers. Is there a way to see a list of those watchers? For example: to pinging editors that likely saw something said because they are watching the page anyway. Thanks. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Eggishorn: No, watchlists are considered private information. See Help:Watchlist#Privacy. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:32, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@John of Reading:, thanks for that. Like I said, I should have known that answer. I feel slightly chagrined now but thanks for pointing me to the right place. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:36, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

vandalism removal request

PLEASE, correct the following obviously written bu a disgruntled liberal: Conservatism - Wikipedia [Search domain en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism Conservatism is a political and social philosophy promoting arrogance,prejudice and petty behaviour. The central tenets of conservatism include social conformity to harmful traditions, the delusion of loyalty, the delusion of hierarchy, the social construct of authority, and the idea that having property rights means that you can trample over people because "it's my house".

This is at the front of the search for conservatism using Duckduckgo as serach engine. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:48F8:1044:467:18AF:59BA:799E:A0C9 (talk) 22:12, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

This was vandalism that has been reverted 8 hours ago. This seems to be a cached version. Kylo Ren (talk) 22:18, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Diff of edit in question. The vandalism was only live for about 7 minutes another anonymous user fixed it (yay for "anyone can edit" working). Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:44, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Alice Faye page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Faye

How can we add a decent main photo of Alice Faye? These old movie stills can be used by anyone but to add a photo you ask for who owns the copyright, who photographed it, etc. What do people say who put on the images that are there? They didn't create them. We tried to replace the crummy main photo but it was removed. Your message talks about license. Nobody has licenses for these! And this signature business. 22:06, 30 May 2020 (UTC)Pokomoko1 (talk)I don't understand any of this. YOU PEOPLE ARE NUTS! Well, better no picture than a lousy one.

Help with scale on Template::Graph::Chart

Hi. I've added some charts to COVID-19_pandemic_in_Wisconsin#Statistics_by_county (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). These are my first charts, and this template is working nicely, except for scales on some of the Y axes. If for example you look at "New Cases Reported in Adams County", it shows 0 five times and 1 six times. It's not a huge deal, but it bugs me. Does anyone know how to fix? -Jeff the quiet (talk) 20:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

The answer dawned on me this morning: the excess ticks on the y-axis occur when the max value is 1 or 2, so for graphs with small maxes, set yAxisMax=10. That solves the problem with the y-axis, and makes the chart suggest small numbers better. With that, the charts are perfect :), and no other answer is needed. -Jeff the quiet (talk) 04:32, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

City i was wrong is incorrect

hi my name is juan carlos bianchi ( former tennis player) on your records says i was worn in Maracay , but i was born in Caracas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.214.29.143 (talk) 19:50, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Our article Juan Carlos Bianchi says you were born in Caracas. It once said you were born in Maracay, but that was corrected in July 2018. Maproom (talk) 19:55, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

I see that es:Juan Carlos Bianchi does say you were born in Maracay. Unfortunately my Spanish is so poor that I don't feel able to correct it competently. pt:Juan Carlos Bianchi says Caracas, but ar:حزقيال كارلوس بيانكي also says Maracay. Maproom (talk) 20:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Unincorporation of Briar Tx

According to the 1990 census Briar Tx area located in Wise County was unincorporated in 1983. But the 2000 and 2010 census shows the opposite. Even google maps shows the opposite. My name is Keith Krayer my email address is kak76023@yahoo.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.2.120.226 (talk) 23:55, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Need assistance

I need assistance with a page I tried to update. Please respond as soon as possible(preferably on my talk page(MrMike413). — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrMike413 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

I need to create a biography

Hello,

I would like to create a biography about "Dr. Guillermo Rodriguez Navarrete" known as "nutrillermo" who is a famous doctor in human nutrition located in Miami.. He has written more than 6 books about nutrition, he has been seen on TV in channels like "CNN en español" "Telemundo" "People" and "Univision". His website is "www.nutrillermo.com", his instagram is "@nutrillermo" . He also have programs to help people with malnutrition problems around the world.

How can I get someone to help me to write about him? thanks Axelleonm (talk) 03:58, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

You can request that an article be created at WP:AFC, but you're going to want to ensure that he's notable enough to merit an article. I'd recommend looking for reliable sources that discuss him as a first step. DonIago (talk) 13:21, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Advice on resolving edit war

I'm writing on behalf of Norsat in regards to it's Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norsat. It appears that someone has been consistently reverting the changes/edits that we've made, which are fact-based (not promotional) information about the company. We do not want to engage in an editing war, and do not wish to remove any information the other editor has made. We simply want to ensure whatever information is posted is a correct depiction of the company. I would appreciate your help/suggestions on how to navigate this so we can resolve this issue amicably. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.181.107.242 (talk • contribs)

IP, nobody owns pages on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is community driven, and if your business is editing their own page, this is strictly against Wikipedia's conflict of interest and the paid editing subsection of the Wikimedia Terms of Service (see WP:COI and WP:PAID). Please refrain from editing your businesses Wikipedia page. Thank you. Ed6767 (talk) 21:57, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@Dchoi11: You should read Ed6767's message instead of trying to hide it. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:26, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Pages with same title but different case need collapsing into one

There are two pages purporting to cover Exterior Gateway Protocols https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exterior_gateway_protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exterior_Gateway_Protocol Both are short. The lower case version is almost vestigial and has no citations. I feel the lower case version should be removed and just the upper case one left. I would have no idea how to do this and deal with any existing links (pretty new to wikipedia). Thanks Kewnut (talk) 03:58, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, you're good at this stuff, right? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:06, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

As the hatnotes at top say (maybe not clearly enough?), Exterior gateway protocol is about the general concept of exterior gateway protocols while Exterior Gateway Protocol is about a specific exterior gateway protocol with the name "Exterior Gateway Protocol". Similar to Cola versus Coca-Cola. I'm not changing the articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:38, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Unless some reference material is available, the protocol for handling them is at WP:AFD. Both articles are full of inappropriate external links and citation needed tags and empty of in-depth reliable reference material. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 09:40, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Hm, if they are two different subjects, it seems one title should have some sort of parenthesis. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:46, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

The names are permitted by Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization)#Page names that differ only by capitalization, and the example there has better potential disambiguators. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:51, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the careful analysis and explanation Kewnut (talk) 04:47, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Biographical article with several issues

Wowkie Zhang (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The biographical article on Wowkie Zhang has a lot of issues, chiefly regarding its neutrality, lack and unreliability of sources, and the poor use of English. I've posted more specific comments on the talk page. I believe this article needs a massive overhaul, as its current version is not suitable for Wikipedia

Orcaguy (talk) 13:03, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

id:Kontaminasi Kapitalis

Hallo there,

My name is Pamuji Slamet, from Indonesia.

I have issues on the Wikipedia page <https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontaminasi_Kapitalis>. Actually I am the one named Pamuji Slamet, written there. But these article written without my consent and have a lot of misinformation. I already tried to edit it, but as I made too much correction, I got a notification that Wikipedia can not allow such editing/writing. So what can I do, since this is about me, this issue is really important to me. Too bad there is no consent from the first writer. Could you help me, please? If I have to send you my photo or ID for verification, I can do it. Please help me to let me edit that page.

Thank you.

Best regards, Pamuji Slamet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pamuji Slamet (talk • contribs) 08:23, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Pamuji Slamet, your question is about an article in Indonesian-language Wikipedia. The way things are done there may be different from the way they're done here in English-language Wikipedia. (Here, editors are strongly discouraged from editing articles about themselves.) But you need to ask your question at a suitable page in id:Wikipedia, where people will know the rules that apply there. Maproom (talk) 09:24, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

German Wikipedia

I am a contributor since 2006, with several articles including the ones on Daniello Bartoli, Antonio Possevino and their books, etc.

I do not know how to edit German Wikipedia.

I have inserted a Wikicommons image:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Portret_van_Aloysius_Bevilacqua,_RP-P-1910-1850.jpg

in the English Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloysius_Bevilacqua and I want to add it to the German

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloysius_Bevilacqua

If I can learn this I have many images on Wiki Commons I can add to articles in other languages.

BTW I read and speak en, es, it, de, fr

Thanks for finding someone who can give me assistance

Gregory Woods, NYC

Gregorywoods90 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregorywoods90 (talk • contribs) 15:45, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

@Gregorywoods90: I added a section header here for you. I see you were able to add the image to de:Aloysius Bevilacqua. If you need assistance on the German Wikipedia in the future, it looks like they have lots of documentation at de:Hilfe:Übersicht. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Museum

At the top of the page, it reads "The Creation Museum, located in Petersburg, Kentucky, United States, is operated by the Christian creation apologetics organization Answers in Genesis (AiG). It promotes a pseudoscientific, young Earth creationist (YEC) explanation of the origin of the universe based on a literal interpretation of the Genesis creation narrative in the Bible."

The Word "pseudoscientific" is a matter of personal opinion, not a fact. It should be removed.

I have difficulty supporting Wikipedia because, so often, opinion is mixed in with fact, particularly with regard to religious institutions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:140:8101:7470:68C4:880E:BCC2:4B17 (talk) 18:55, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

The best place to discuss your concerns with the Creation Museum article is the corresponding talk page: Talk:Creation Museum. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:40, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Immediately delete the article 100 best people ever

It makes no sense. Muhammad was a maniac. Please delete the page right now I'm requesting you like delete it RIGHT NOW — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.83.167.193 (talk) 11:28, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

We don't have an article with that title. Please clarify. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:31, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

I googled that, interesting. Seems drawn from [8]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:40, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

We do have an article about the book The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History. It doesn't in any way claim they are the "best people", and Wikipedia does not claim they are the most influential. We merely write about the book. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:07, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Rick Danko

Why does the entry state that he was born in 1943, but a photo in the entry show that he was born in 1942? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.186.112.150 (talk) 21:13, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

The caption for the photo at Rick Danko#Death says "the birth year is incorrect". Rick Danko#Citations has a detailed note saying he was actually born in 1943. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:04, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Yasmin Vassoghian

Why is there no wiki page for Yasmin? She's an anchor, not an actress, on a morning news show. Her co+anchor has a wiki page.

Poiney aka Jackie Davis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poiney (talk • contribs) 13:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@Poiney:, the short answer is: "Because no editor as made one yet." There is no central authority here to add articles on a regularized basis. New articles get added when an editor feels like it. Good news: you can be that editor! Be forewarned, though, that an article on this person will be evaluated for notability, which has a different meaning on Wikipedia than it does in normal English usage. If you think that she is notable and want to make the article, I'd strongly suggest reading Your First Article and using the Article Wizard. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Need confirmation on the eligibility of a article, specifically in the WP:Notability section

First off, welcome back to Wikipedia me! I took a long wiki break, occasionally returning for small edits, but I feel fresh and ready to get back into the swing of things. I was interested in writing an article on Steamworks this already has a section within the steam (app) article, however, I personally believe it is eligible for its own page, as there has and will be significant media coverage protruding to this topic. I can also, however, Imagine controversy over weather or not this topic constitutes a new article. thoughts? Scaledish! Talkish? Statish. 19:30, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Need help on the Radical centrism article

Dear Help Page, re: Radical centrism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)- As I'm sure you know, WP:CITEVAR instructs editors to not change the established citation style of articles. The Radical centrism article has maintained a consistent and established citation style since 2013. On June 2 and again on June 4, an editor (Treybien) changed the citation style of a minority of the article's 229 cites. No explanation was given.

I have tried to revert the changes, with appropriate explanation on the history page, but intermediate and subsequent edits have made it impossible for me to do so successfully. On the article's Talk page, I asked Treybien to revert, but he has not responded.

Therefore, this is to request that you roll back the edits posted on June 2, 3, and 4 of the Radical centrism article. They are all of a piece, as you will see – for example, several people corrected spelling errors in Treybien's edits. Another editor, who apparently did not read or heed the notes I posted on the history page, re-entered his edits to Treybien's edits on 12 June.

There is no content dispute here. I simply want one of WP's clearly stated rules to be enforced. I have contributed to this article since 2012, when it was a hodgepodge; please do not let it become so again! Sincerely, - Babel41 (talk) 04:39, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Page Deleted For Unknown Reason

Hi there, I was wondering if there is any chance to bring back a page that was deleted? It was "Danny Reisch - Mix Engineer" it was taken down a few months ago. Thank you! SSM91 (talk) 18:19, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Have you got the spelling correct? I've done searches and found nothing so far. Are you sure it was Danny Reisch - Mix Engineer if it was it would have a deletion log available or some sort of Draft page and even a redirect link to a draft page. ShadowWarfare 18:55, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Article on Paleo Diet

Answered

I've made several revision attempts to remove bias and opinion from the article, including citations that are links to opinion pieces which themselves make uncited claims, rather than the source material.

This page is contentious as it's a target for those opposed to meat eating. One of the reversions actually says it's intended to attack the diet:

"curprev 15:16, 22 June 2020‎ Alexbrn talk contribs‎ 32,686 bytes +813‎ Reverted to revision 963918222 by Alexbrn (talk): Rv. removal of well-sourced material, necessary per policy to dubunk the daftness that is the Paleo diet. "

Rv. removal of well-sourced material, necessary per policy to dubunk the daftness that is the Paleo diet. 

That's not informative - it's vandalism.

The disputed parts are straw man arguments which claim proponents of the health program are making assertions which they clearly not, and no citations of quotations of original sources are being produced to support those allegations.

That the Paleo Diet is a well-established target of hatred by Vegan activists is rather well known. This appears to be more of the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.8.159.208 (talk) 16:06, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Answered at article talk page. Please discuss there. — TransporterMan (TALK) 17:27, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

I would like editor assistance for an article I posted for Akash Nigam

My article for Akash Nigam was removed but I would like more insight on the article to understand the sections that may have been deemed promotional. --Bryanbeckford (talk) 23:37, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

It's been deleted, so I can't access or comment on the content. But I see that a related article which you created, Genies, Inc., provides little evidence that its subject is notable. Of the nine sources it cites, the first eight are all based on interviews with the company's founder, Akash Nigam, and so are not independent. Maproom (talk) 09:10, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing List of Places in NSW with population ore than 10000

Hello I am new to this so just letting you know in case I am doing wrong thing. You seem to have missed Parkes NSW with population just under 15000 on list of towns with population more than 10000 I will try to edit it I am a bit keen to see a list of all named towns in NSW on ABS criteria with populations for 2011 and 2016, because we are losing so many people out of these small towns. Anybody want to supervise/ help me on this?

Kind regards In2theweft (talk) 02:29, 23 June 2020 (UTC)In2theweft (Graham Johnson)

Unfortunately, that edit was not valid ... see my edit summary. Graham87 14:58, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Awo-Omamma: Health and Community Development

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awo-Omamma

Fact check 1: When Dr. Nzeribe came back from England, he did not have money to build any of the establishments that Wikipedia or whoever wrote this article gave him credit for. He was a graduate student who came home with a title only. Chief Martin Ohanenye (as a prosperous member of the Unitarian Universalist Service Committee [UUSC])spearheaded the funding of these establishments and donated 3,000 pounds in 1958 in one swoop from his own personal funds in 1958 when Nigeria was still using British currency. Chief Ohanenye made other similar donations when funds were dry for the project. He was an affluent and a philanthropic businessman who wanted Awo-Omamma developed into a thriving town. Because these projects were in his own hometown and because of his title, Dr. Nzeribe claimed credit for the development, a point of contention. Dr. Nzeribe was the face that contractors, news media, and government officials saw.

Fact check 2: After Dr. Nzeribe failed to give credit to Chief Martin Ohanenye in 1958 (by making people think that he brought the money for the projects), Chief Martin Ohanenye decided to focus his developmental efforts in Ubogwu in Awo-Omamma, his own hometown. Hence, he commissioned the building of Saint Mary Primary School in Ubogwu and many other institutions.

Fact Check 3: Chief Martin Ohanenye single-handedly brought electricity into Ubogwu from the Owerri-Onitsha road powerline so that anyone who wanted could pull power from the main supply into their own home.

These are well-known facts as opposed to the biased article presented in Cornell Alumni News in 1969.

Please verify this information from any Awo-Omamma person who was alive around that time. There is Mr. Felix Okanome who lives in California. Others who awarded my father this plaque last year (July 27, 2019) are aware of the facts I stated about Chief Martin Ohanenye's philanthropic deeds to Awo-Omamma and Nigeria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Award_to_Chief_Martin_Ohanenye.jpg (Image of the plaque)

Can you provide us with reliable sources as defined by Wikipedia for these assertions? Personal testimony that has not been reported in a published reliable source cannot be used to support information here, so information from "any Awo-Omamma person" will not suffice. If you believe that any of the sources currently used for the article are not reliable by Wikipedia's definition, you may start a discussion on the article talk page to have them, and any associated information, removed. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:56, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Advice sought from editors about the likely fate of a draft article

Draft:The Muckle Hart of Benmore (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi. I posted the draft of an article entitled 'The Muckle Hart of Benmore' on 13 May. The author of the article has been trying to get it published for about 4 years and is understandably anxious that it should appear on Wikipedia as soon as possible. I would therefore appreciate any information about the fate of the article and, in particular, about whether the draft meets Wikipedia's 'notability' requirement. If it is deficient in some other way it would also be useful to know what more could be done to make it acceptable for publication. I have asked these questions twice before at the Teahouse but without receiving a response (or at least I have not been able to find one). Any help or advice would be gratefully received. Thanks!Sbrnmb (talk) 12:28, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Sbrnmb, it wasn't submitted for review. I've done that on your behalf. The references need to be reformatted. See Help:Referencing for beginners Vexations (talk) 12:54, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Sbrnmb, The way the article is formatted, it looks like it has been copy/pasted from another source. Do you know where from? We need to respect the copyright of its creator. Vexations (talk) 13:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

You need to actually cite the references. Vexations has shown you how do to this for the first one (actually a footnote, not a reference). Without cited references, this is going nowhere. Read Help:Referencing for beginners if you don't know how to cite references, as Vexations said above. Maproom (talk) 20:57, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

My thanks to Calliopejen1 for all the work they have now done on what is now an article, Muckle Hart of Benmore!   Maproom (talk) 07:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks to you both for all your help to get this published: much appreciated. I shall try to cite the references today. The article was written by a man called John Fletcher. I was employed by him last month to try to get it published and did a lot of work on improving the language, punctuation, etc. and bringing the references more into line with Wikipedia requirements. I then copied and pasted my final Word version of the file. It included an illustration of the stag's antlers which I thought added something but this now appears to have gone missing; can someone please advise how to add this? Many thanks. Sbrnmb (talk) 10:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC) I tried citing the references just now but it appears to me that they have already been cited and that I am simply duplicating the existing citations. Can someone please let me know whether they do still need to be cited? Many thanks! Sbrnmb (talk) 14:24, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

shifting article

Dear community,

I have prepared the translation of the german article of the greek artist, Pantelis Sabaliotis, everything is ready but I am not sure you to publish it. I need help to shift the article from my space /corbetti) to the public room so the article is available to everyone. Is there anyone who could help me? best regards, corbetti User:Corbetti/Pantelis Sabaliotis (edit | [[Talk:User:Corbetti/Pantelis Sabaliotis|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) .Corbetti (talk) 12:53, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but it's not ready to be published. Per our verifiability policy, every statement in the body of the article must be given a link to a reliable source as defined by English Wikipedia and none of them are. That might have been acceptable at German Wikipedia (or just having a list of unlinked references at the bottom) since each Wikipedia sets its own policies, but it's not acceptable here. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 21:58, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Roman Retzbach

Need help for corrections and a co-editor please! --YvesMe (talk) 08:11, 30 June 2020 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Retzbach

It's not corrections that are needed. It's independent sources, and evidence that the subject has ever done anything to warrant the existence of an article. [[User:Map

room|Maproom]] (talk) 07:56, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Page authenticity being challenged by Wiki and contributors

I recently contributed to 2 Wiki pages, one of which was dropped and rolled back to the previous version. The other one currently shows a Wiki disclaimer saying the page reads like pres article, etc. Page rolled back - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhajan_Sopori Page currently marked as press release... - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abhay_Sopori

Content for both these pages has been provided directly by Maestro Bhajan Sopori & Maestro Abhay Sopori so the authenticity of the content cannot be questioned. Why are these both pages being questioned and how can these be rectified? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poorinjava (talk • contribs) 17:35, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Your inexperience and lack of familiarity with English Wikipedia policy is going to make this very difficult for you. I'd suggest that you ask for help at the Wikipedia Teahouse, which is better equipped than this forum to deal with the range of problems you're facing. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:54, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Namaste Trump

There is an editing dispute at Namaste Trump, an article which I created. But I am unable to give it my attention at this time. More eyes/ideas there would probably help. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:56, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Change the information about india languages

India have 23 official languages but in your website its show only 2.... Please change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.55.194.35 (talk) 04:17, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Issues with an editor's conduct

Gilad_Atzmon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi, An editor seems to me to be edit warring on this article and to be consistently ignoring and misusing Wikipedia policies to do so. This is particularly an issue as the article is a WP:BLP and much of the content misrepresents tendentiously what are themselves poor and tendentious sources, making this article arguably definable as WP:ATTACK. I have looked through dispute resolution but think only sanctions would have any effect. Could you suggest my best course of action?

The editor:

• repeatedly deletes material in breach of WP:BLPSELFPUB [9] [10] [11]
• repeatedly reverts edits and multiple edits completely instead of in part, in breach of WP:REVONLY [12] [13] [14]
• repeatedly uses edit summaries which are minimal, partial and vague, in breach of WP:SUMMARYNO and WP:REVEXP [15] [16] [17]
• deletes the link to the official subject website twice in breach of WP:ELYES and WP:OFFICIAL without explanation, then argues for its exclusion on the basis that the subject website is “problematic” in some unstated way, despite it having been in the article for 12 years [18] [19] [20]
• misrepresents another editor’s edit on the talk page, by presenting an addition as a substitution, in breach of WP:TALKNO [21] The actual edit is [22]
• makes a personal attack on a talk page “(My) framing in the leadoff of Irving as a "historical author", in the face of sourcing, is troubling.” in breach of WP:TALKNO [23]
• uses an edit summary on a talk page to make a snide comment in breach of WP:ESDONTS [24]
• misuses Wikipedia policies by using them selectively e.g. uses WP:WEIGHT while ignoring WP:BLPSELFPUB
• uses WP:MANDY inappropriately when this is not a Wikipedia policy and to oppose including a response from the subject to a reported phrase taken out of context and based solely on the word of one anonymous person parlayed via a hostile lobby group mounting a campaign [25]
• proposes that my edits should require pre-approval from other editors in breach of WP:EPTALK and WP:OWN, referring to “our article” [26]
• bans me from his talk page after the first message I sent him on conduct, in breach of WP:CONDUCTDISPUTE [27] [28] [29]
• systematically misrepresents pretty much everything (examples above).

Many thanks, Jontel (talk) 04:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

If you criticise another editor's actions in public, it's polite to notify them. I'll do so now; the editor referred to above is Hippeus.   Maproom (talk) 10:09, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

This is a content dispute, and I eagerly invite editors to join the discussion at Talk:Gilad Atzmon#Non-neutral edits, Irving as an "historical author". Jontel's edits, back in May 2020, were rejected by consensus of multiple editors. Jontel, for edit warring against multiple editors, was sanctioned with an instruction not to edit the article for a month (until 13 June). Despite being allowed to use talk, Jontel did not utilize this possibility to build consensus. Shortly after the end of this sanction, on 15 June, Jontel returned to the article itself and made large edits that joined new material (much of it self-published or promotional such as www.theblockheads.com) with old material that was previously discussed and rejected. I reverted these edits with a clear edit summary. Instead of following WP:BRD and opening a discussion on the talk page, it appears Jontel has seen fit to complain elsewhere. I have opened a discussion on the relevant talk page in order to elicit opinion from further editors on these latest edits. I have indeed told Jontel to stay off my talk page, as he should be making his case on the relevant talk page. I invite editors to join this discussion. --Hippeus (talk) 10:34, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

This is not an accurate description (see above). Jontel (talk) 10:55, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

It is an accurate description, which is exactly why you're here. In other words, just because a discussion at the appropriate place is not going the way you want it to is not a good reason for finding other editors to intervene. See WP:FORUMSHOPPING. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:35, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

That is offensive, untrue and unhelpful. I could answer these responses in detail but do not think that is what this page is for. I am not asking other editors to intervene, or for their opinion on the issues raised. Just which forum, if any, is appropriate in which to raise these conduct issues. If you cannot or do not wish to offer assistance, please do not comment. Jontel (talk) 19:20, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Your offense does not change anything. If you truly think you have a conduct issue to report (hint: you do not, at least not yet), then WP:AN and WP:ANI have extensive instructions. This is a normal content dispute, however, and should be handled on the talk page of the article in question, which is already happening. See WP:DR for more information. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:40, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

avoid lawsuit

u are advertising our former home at 6100 carmen valley pl., edmond,ok 73025 as a foreclosure.this home was assumened by RMS co. to dispose or rent/sell.u are esbaressing our family.this was a non-recourse loan.if not deleted as a foreclosure a attorney will be contacting u the agent working for RMS etc.

      by:  the previous owners/ representive  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.253.242.243 (talk) 16:28, 10 July 2020 (UTC) 

Are you at the right website? You have posted at a help page for Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia. I can find no Wikipedia pages that mention this address. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:34, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I can't see anything in commons:Category:Buildings in Edmond, Oklahoma either. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:37, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Edit Discussion (possible dispute) in John Hagee

Answered

This is in the early stages of a possible dispute involving an edit I made to John Hagee. I documented his participation in a campaign rally in 1968 held for George Wallace. The only thing so far is one user undid my edit. I explained that the source is verifiable (and it is the primary source of news in the area, dated August 1968, a newspaper article). The editor User_talk:Aroma_Stylish additionally said in the undo remark the claim was WP:Exceptional, so required more of a burden of proof. I was just wondering, how does one resolve a situation like this all with the assumption that the information is verified and it is not exceptional? Perhaps give me some guidelines on what is exceptional (it seems like that is a loose concept that is not easy to pin down) I certainly will not undo anything, I feel it is just a meaningless gesture to have an editing war. So, I want to know, how should I proceed when this happens (my edit is removed for being exceptional when I feel it is not exceptional), one, and two, how do I proceed in this particular case. Thank you. SeedEWound (talk) 16:51, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Answered at removing editor's talk page. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:51, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

QUIERO CREAR LA BIOGRAFÍA DE UNA PERSONALIDAD VIVA EN WIKIPEDIA

Hola soy nueva en wikipedia Quiero crear una biografía d una personalidad viva , muy importante en su ámbito.

Sil Gamarra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sil Gamarra (talk • contribs) 02:22, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Nuestros somos la Wikipedia en Ingles. La Wikipedia en Espaňol es es.wikipedia.org. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:06, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Search results from search engines

Feedback link

This passage from Wikipedia only shows up on the results on the search engine page. It does not show up on the actual Wikipedia page when you open it. This cannot be edited from showing on that page. There is no place for this kind of defamation and bias. Could this be changed to actually show the first paragraph of the actual page on Wikipedia? The "officially the racist ass country" is beyond insulting and biased

Contiguous United States - Wikipedia Search domain en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contiguous_United_Stateshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contiguous_United_States The contiguous United States or officially the racist ass country consists of the 48 adjoining U.S. states (plus the District of Columbia) on the continent of North America. The terms exclude the non-contiguous states of Alaska and Hawaii, and all other off-shore insular areas, such as American Samoa, U.S. Virgin Islands, Northern Mariana Islands, Guam and Puerto Rico. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:9A81:EA00:644F:C064:29B3:3712 (talk) 19:37, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

As you say, this text is not on a Wikipedia page. If it shows up in a search engine's result, it suggests that the search engine has been subverted in some way. That's disappointing, but not too surprising. Unfortunately there's nothing we here at Wikipedia can do about it. Maproom (talk) 20:09, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

For future reference, if you're referring to those boxes at the side of the search results, there is usually a discreet Feedback link at the bottom right of the panel (see image right) where you can tell the people responsible that something is wrong, and hopefully that someone would get around to fixing it quickly. Those results usually come from a cached copy of Wikipedia, which means that it only gets updated when the search engine bot decides to look at our page again, so if it happens to be unlucky and catch a vandalised copy... Alpha3031 (t • c) 15:05, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

"Kamala Harris" Page - Dispute Over Proposed "Attendance" Section

I am requesting editor assistance to gain advice in how to handle a dispute on the "Kamala Harris" Wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris

I have already discussed my concerns in the "Talk" page of "Kamala Harris." I do not want to get into an "edit war."

This is an important matter because Senator Kamala Harris apparently is being considered seriously as a vice presidential nominee.

A basic statistic of performance of a member of Congress is "voting participation," the percentage of roll call votes that a member participated in over a given time period. "Congressional Quarterly" apparently has compiled this statistic for every member of Congress since the 1940s. "Congressional Quarterly" (or "CQ") is a subscription service. Its reports are found in reference sections of many public libraries, but I cannot access those books right now due to the COVID-19 library closures. Other institutions, including GovTrack.us, compile this statistic, too.

I created an "Attendance" section that cited the GovTrack.us of Senator Kamala Harris's "voting participation" or "missed votes." It concluded that she has missed 23 percent of all roll call votes during her tenure in the U.S. Senate and found that she is an outlier -- she has missed significantly more votes than the median senator now serving. She has missed nearly one-quarter of roll call votes during her Senate tenure.

See: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/kamala_harris/412678 "From Jan 2017 to Jul 2020, Harris missed 269 of 1,157 roll call votes, which is 23.2%. This is much worse than the median of 1.7% among the lifetime records of senators currently serving. The chart below reports missed votes over time."

However, another editor removed my "Attendance" section completely and claimed that since reliable news sources have not made "attendance" of Kamala Harris an issue, it is not appropriate for inclusion in a Wikipedia article. I disagree, as I've stated in the "Talk" section. "Voting Participation"/"missed votes" is a standard, objective benchmark. It's of secondary relevance why she missed so many votes.

I find it extremely ridiculous that a "voting participation"/"missed votes" statistic, a benchmark used to measure performance of all members of Congress for more than 70 years, cannot be discussed in a Wikipedia article about a member of Congress.

I am prepared to escalate this to higher levels of review, but I want to be reasonable. Jab73 (talk) 10:02, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Pinging Neutrality who reverted your edit. Linking to your edit for reference, as well:Special:Diff/966023761.

The wording of your edit isn't the same as how you describe your statement here. You can include statistics information from primary sources (not familiar with Congressional vote sources, is there something official?). But the way you worded it sounds charged and not neutral. I think it can be included properly, but you'll need to be careful of WP:SYNTH while doing so. Perhaps a mention of her statistic, and a mention of the average, and this being lower than the average, and cut words like "poorest attendance" and "much worse", etc. That would fairly represent what the source is saying, imo. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 17:01, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Jab73, it looks like Harris' record was similar to other senators until she started her presidential campaign, and has since returned to normal levels? And govtrack mentions that as a normal reason why legislators might for a period miss votes? This sounds like POV-pushing to me. —valereee (talk) 16:39, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Robert Trivers and Jeffrey Epstein

I am new to editing in Wikipedia. My edits were removed and I cannot figure out why. Prior to today, there was no information on the Robert Trivers Wikipedia page about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. I sought to correct that by including the information taken from Trivers' blog on his personal website, and citing that source. Everything I included was accurate, and I would like to understand why the content was removed and/or how to best put it back on the page. Thanks. McNulTEA (talk) 18:53, 14 July 2020 (UTC)McNulTEA

I and Nomoskedasticity reverted this editor. As I said in my edit summary reverting you the first time, Lacks WP:RS. Don't cite blogs and definitely do not cite Twitter. As it says at WP:RS, Never use self-published sources as independent sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer. And regarding your drawing attention to posts on Trivers' blog, note this: Wikipedia articles should be based mainly on reliable secondary sources, i.e., a document or recording that relates or discusses information originally presented elsewhere. Selectively looking through WP:Primary sources for scandal, quoting the bad things Trivers said in the past from his blog post, [30] and ignoring the purpose of the post, to defend himself, [31] is not appropriate under WP:BLP.

McNulTEA appears to be solely focused on sketchy WP:BLP edits. They were notified of DS well before this incident. Crossroads ^-talk- 21:49, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Political party meta/color pages

How do I create a meta/color page for a political party? I have created the Our West Lancashire page and would like to add the colours for this Party. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanJWilde (talk • contribs) 20:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dansk_tilbagetr%C3%A6kning_fra_EU

This page could be canceled: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dansk_tilbagetr%C3%A6kning_fra_EU , it is in Danish language, in English and German it is accepted. I made a copie of the English page to Danish page. Do know a solution for that? Wname1 (talk) 06:32, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

@Wname1:, articles on the Danish Wikipedia are not controlled by the English Wikipedia. That project is separately-run but should have some equivalent to our Deletion Policy. You might try Wikipedia:Sletningsforslag. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:55, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Brandon Blackstone

Brandon Blackstone is NOT Reba McIntire’s son. Brandon is getting a divorce from Kelly Clarkson. Brandon Blackstone is Reba’s step-son by her former husband. Does that make him still her step-son if she is no longer married to Mr Blackstone? Ha. Lulu Burns, Nashville,TN

Hi user, you need to provide adequate context. What page are you referring to, and what is the issue for which you are requesting assistance? An editor can only assist you with such necessary background details. In addition, please sign your posts with your Wikipedia username, and avoid giving any personal details. Thanks! PinkElixir (talk) 03:07, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Disabled person reclaiming "crip"

The term crip is derogatory and hurtful, as a disabled person, I am offended by the notion that disabled persons are trying to reclaim this term as stated in wikipedia article at URL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crip_(disability_term). This is ridiculous as someone saying that Black persons are trying to reclaim the "N" word. Respectfully, AR in CA (talk) 23:56, 29 July 2020 (UTC) AR in CA

@AR in CA:, if you read the article through, you see this passage: The reclaiming of "crip" is not universally accepted by disabled people. Other extensive discussion also exists in the article that is well-sourced and follows our Core Content Policies. Wikipedia is not censored and we will all find something to be offended about in these pages. And, just for the record, Black Americans have been trying to reclaim the n-word for a generation or more now. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 03:58, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

It's also worth remembering that Wikipedia is a global encyclopaedia, and language usage varies widely across the English speaking world. I have certainly heard disabled people use "crip" in a humorous, self-deprecatory way in my country. HiLo48 (talk) 04:20, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Luke Jones and Times Radio

Please can an editor/admin take a look at this discussion. This person seems to think they have an overall rule on Times Radio presenters and I'm trying to explain that if someone doesn't have an article they shouldn't be included in the presenters list. It's also mentioned on my talk page here. Any help or input on these pages would be gratefully received. - Funky Snack (Talk) 11:47, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Funky Snack: I have done a thorough review of this discussion and it seems it has been escalated to other venues. Is additional help still needed? PinkElixir (talk) 03:20, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi @PinkElixir:, I think we're sorted now., thank you. It was a spat over whether a list of non-notable people should be added to the list of broadcasters on the Times Radio article. The only one who seemed to think the list should include all broadcasters (including those who were non-notable) withdrew from the discussion and think it's been agreed to leave the list as it is for now. - Funky Snack (Talk) 15:46, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi @PinkElixir:, it would appear the issue is not resolved after all. Please see Talk:Times Radio. Are you still in a position to offer advice? - Funky Snack (Talk) 08:48, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Funky Snack:, what exactly are you looking for editor assistance on? I'm seeing several open discussion threads. It seems a user has requested assistance from the Arbitration Committee for the disagreement over the presenters list, so please let me know how else I can help. PinkElixir (talk) 14:33, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Cochin Jews - Remove Christian speculation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cochin_Jews#Remove_Christian_speculation

There is no historic proof or record on the conversion of Cochin Jews to Christianity or any other religion. The cited references do not support this. There are numerous contemporary groups all over the world who speculate on their links to Jews. Known similarities in some the practices of the Abrahamic religions does not mean ethnic connection. YaLindaHadad (talk) 13:50, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

I see that you are already discussing this in the right place, Talk:Cochin Jews. What assistance do you need? Maproom (talk) 21:47, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

What's happening here? What about CHRISTIAN SPECULATION — Preceding unsigned comment added by EzinneAnwuri (talk • contribs) 10:01, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Unsourced Iranian accomplishments?

I've just gone over Windcatcher; it formerly treated windcatchers as an Iranian invention copied by some other countries. The sources don't seem to support this, and it seems unlikely that something as simple as a windscoop would not be repeatedly reinvented in many widely-scattered places.

This may not be an isolated problem. Category:Iranian inventions, and many of the articles in it, may need this sort of attention. I'd appreciate anyone willing to go over any article. HLHJ (talk) 05:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Arameans

I made an edit with several academic and governmental sources that is continuously being rejected by an user. At first he said that the sources I provided weren’t reliable enough, afterwards he agreed that I provided reliable sources, but is still reverting the edits I made on the article.

Therefore the user rejects to hold any other discussion to reach consensus.

Please see the discussionpage on Arameans.

MixedButHumann (talk) 17:42, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Ethnic slur in hatnote of article

On the article for the country Niger, there is a hatnote that says, "For the ethnic slur, see Nigger." I get that the two words sound somewhat similar, but they are not related in any way. So, is this really necessary to have at the top of the page? Momo824 (talk) 08:41, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

This request is resolved. The hatnote has been removed. Momo824 (talk) 07:21, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

William Dickson (Falklands) merger to Antonio Rivero

I have set up a merger discussion on this topic, but only three users are consistently interested in it, myself and two others. What should I do to get more opinions? The relevant community (wikiproject Falkland Islands) effectively is these two other users. As I understand it rfc's are not supposed to be used for mergers, or is that incorrect? Boynamedsue (talk) 13:54, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Kamala Harris

Incorrectly listed Kamala Harris as "African" American. Her parents are not African but Jamaican and Indian. Neither places are located in Africa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.255.128.76 (talk) 15:02, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

It's being discussed at the appropriate place, the article's talk page. Note that we depend upon what reliable sources say, not our own analysis. Doug Weller talk 15:36, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Not sure what to do about user

User:Nadiabeny recently thanked me. I saw that they were new and looked at their edits to write a welcome, and they are very unusual. I don't even understand all of them, but I think they should probably be looked at by someone who does. The editor has not responded to a post on their talk page in the past, but pinging here in case they want to respond. HLHJ (talk) 04:40, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

They appear to be being watched at this point and all or virtually all of their edits have been reverted. I'd assume good faith on this one and label these as a bunch of trial or semi-trial edits by a newcomer rather than intentional vandalism. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:03, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Re-re-re-created deleted article

Saeed Orokzai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I came across this article Saeed Orokzai in the dead-end log, tried to find better references for it, and instead got sucked into a bit of a swamp. The creating editor's talk page shows that they previously created an article by the same name, which (I think) was speedily deleted, as it was substantially the same as an earlier one deleted after AfD, which in turn was same as another article by a slightly different name (different rendering of the person's original Afghan name). Not sure what to do with this? Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:52, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

@Doublegrazing:, at least one of the references, The BBC article, calls him "one of the leading directors of Afghan cinema" so CSD is probably inappropriate despite the re-creation. BLPPROD doesn't apply and it is appropriately tagged for improvement (for whatever the latter is worth). I suppose you could send it to AfD but I don't think it obviously fails the appropriate WP:N criteria. I suggest using the talk page of the article to address any specific concerns or just editing it yourself. I hope that helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:52, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

OK thanks @Eggishorn: probably better if I just leave it, then, and move to pastures new. :) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:54, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

CORRECTION: re George Moffett Cochran bio. Son's names and occupations are reversed. ( I am the wife of deceased son, G. Moffett CochranV. who was a lawyer and later founder of Silvercrest Asset management Group in NYC.

G. Moffett Cochran V, son of George M. Cochran, deceased, former lawyer, statesman and Judge on VA Supreme Court, was a lawyer that went to NYC and later founded SILVERCREST ASSET MANAGEMENT. You have the two sons reversed in the bio of GEORGE M. COCHRAN.

submitted by Mrs. G. Moffett Cochran V (DuPre Cates Cochran)69.126.152.67 (talk) 12:16, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

I gather that G. Moffett Cochran V was your husband, founded Silvercrest Asset Management in Charlottesville, and has passed away? That seems to be consistent with what the article says: "They had a son Stuart Cochran who followed his father and grandfather into a legal career, and another son G. Moffett Cochran V who became an investment advisor based in Charlottesville." In any case that sentence is referenced by a blog post, not a {{WP:RS|reliable source]] for Wikipedia, and I have removed it. I hope this helps. Further discussion should probably be on the appropriate talk page, which I will keep on my watch list for a week or two. Richard Keatinge (talk) 13:54, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Kamala Harris

This woman is not African American! She comes from Jamaican & Indian and was born in the United States. Please make this critical change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:1:813:0:0:0:A0 (talk) 13:31, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

See above. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:07, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Jamaicans are of African descent. SolarFlash^Discussion 01:37, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes, about 92% of Jamaicans are of African ancestry, and Kamala Harris's father Donald J. Harris, is of largely African ancestry. Since he is a long time professor (now emeritus) at Stanford University, photos of this Black man are easily available online going back many years, along with descriptions in reliable sources calling him a Black man. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:38, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Is this a valid source?

The reliability of the source isn't in question. The problem is that I cannot access it to verify, even using multiple different browsers. The source is a podcast from 2012 [32] and while I'm able to access the webpage, I can't get the podcast to actually play, even using multiple different browsers. I think the podcast may no longer be listenable (if that's even a word) and thus probably shouldn't be used. Can someone else check and see if this podcast can still be listened to? SolarFlash^Discussion 01:16, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Nope, doesn't seem to work. Per WP:V you're better off trying to find a different source. Cheers, Jr8825 • Talk 13:34, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

That's what I thought. Much obliged. SolarFlash^Discussion 18:27, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Request Editing Bolzano-Weistrass Theorem

Hello. I submitted a new lemma to the Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem: the link is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolzano%E2%80%93Weierstrass_theorem, in --History and significance-- section, and my words starts with "The limit (mathematics) concept can be regard correctly..." sentence. I request it to be analyzed in order to reach true knowledges in Wikipedia. Best Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GrkCan (talk • contribs) 20:42, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

I have removed your additions. Wikipedia does not publish original research. It aims to summarise what has been published in reliable secondary sources. Maproom (talk) 21:30, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

GrkCan, the appropriate place to post that would be at https://en.wikiversity.org/; original work is welcome there. Wikiversity is the Wikipedia sister project for original research and teaching. Wikipedia has a rule against original research; you can imagine the sort of problems we might have if we did not. Not that we are against original research, Wikipedia is just not the place to publish it. HLHJ (talk) 03:12, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

HLHJ, Thank you and I understand the policy of Wikipedia. I'll accept it but, when I said "a new lemma", I mostly think I provided a professional summary on the general concept. As far as I knew there are no exceptions from the policy. GrkCan (talk) 09:05, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

GrkCan, I must admit I don't understand what you posted. If you are explaining a concept which is covered in WP:reliable sources, citing them would be useful. You might also want to ask the wp:Guild of copy-editorss to help you polish your language and make it really clear. If they OK it and your sourcing, there'd be no problem with reposting it. HLHJ (talk) 23:57, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

RTV Pink

Hello. Article RTV Pink needs new name, since it's not called "RTV Pink". I've been thinking about "Pink (radio and TV channel)", but I'm not sure about that. — HoneymoonAve27 (talk) 17:25, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

So if the radio/television station is no longer called "RTV Pink", then what officially is its new name? I think that's where you'll find your answer. SolarFlash^Discussion 17:32, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

SolarFlash, the name is just "Pink". — HoneymoonAve27 (talk) 17:50, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Most Serbian television station articles specify "Serbia" or "Serbian" in the titles, such as TV Art (Serbia), Fox (Serbian TV channel), Kanal 9 (Serbia), Nickelodeon (Serbian TV channel), RTS2 (Serbian TV channel), etc. Given that, I'd say the most appropriate name would be something along the lines of "Pink (Serbian TV channel)", "Pink (Serbia)", or something similar. SolarFlash^Discussion 18:24, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

But it also includes the radio station, it's not correct to use just "(TV channel)". And that's the reason I said it's maybe right to say "Pink (radio station and TV channel)" — HoneymoonAve27 (talk) 08:06, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

On their website they refer to themselves as "The Pink Media Group". Maybe go with that. SolarFlash^Discussion 02:51, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

A nitpicking edit war.

Apparently some people are bothered by the text "X serves as Y" when X has just lost an election for another term as Y, but is still in office. It's a minor thing, but I'd appreciate it if people would express their opinions about it, as it applies to Lacy Clay. Apparently neither @AlsoWakai nor myself can accept that the other knows how to use the English language. Discussing this here instead of talk page cuz it seems an issue not limited to that one page, especially in an election year.

Short summary: I think that "Lacy Clay has served in Congress" is misleading and "Lacy Clay serves in Congress" is perfectly fine. @AlsoWakai believes exactly the opposite. TFT he lost the primary is covered in the next sentence.

Links to appropriate passages of the Wikipedia Style Guide are welcome.

Probably both of us have violated the 3-reverts rule, but I don't want to make an issue of that. --Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 02:12, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Here are three pieces of advice to you, Isaac Rabinovitch, and I offer the same to AlsoWakai.

1. Do not edit war
2. Do Not Edit War
3. DO NOT EDIT WAR

Edit warring is a blockable offense, even if you are right. The proper course of action is to discuss the issue, with the goal of achieving consensus, and the proper place is Talk: Lacy Clay, where no human being has commented since 2008. Lay out your best case there. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:27, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@@cullen328 I've already explained why I chose to discuss it here. You can address that. But if your only purpose is to wag your finger as us for BREAKING THE RULES than consider your finger wagged. Any further finger-wagging will be ignored. Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 02:42, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

First, don't edit war, Isaac Rabinovitch and AlsoWukai. Now, to the issue at hand, my perspective is if Clay is still in office, it should say as "Lacy Clay serves in Congress" until the date in which he leaves the position and his successor takes office. At which point it should then be changed to "Lacy Clay served in Congress" or some other past tense phrasing. However, that exact phrasing is not used in the article. It states "William Lacy Clay Jr... who serves as the U.S. Representative... since 2001...". That "since 2001" changes my answer some because "serves" and "since 2001" aren't of the same tense. I would change it to "...who has served... since 2001..." for the reason of present perfect tense that AlsoWukai stated in one of their edit summaries. Reason 1 stated in the examples of that page's section "1) Actions started in the past and continuing in the present" addresses this scenario exactly. After Clay leaves office, you can then remove the "has" from the "has served". Zinnober9 (talk) 02:49, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Isaac Rabinovitch, if you ignore my sincere advice which you incorrectly describe as "finger wagging", and you resume edit warring behavior, then you will be blocked. I notice with disappointment that you have not yet commented at Talk:Lacy Clay, the proper place to discuss this issue. I hope that my warning is clear enough to you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:13, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Isaac Rabinovitch: I think you and AlsoWakai both need a finger wagged in your directions for edit warring over such a minor point and then escalating it. Here's the best advice you'll get today: let this one go and use your head next time. SolarFlash^Discussion 02:42, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

I said I wouldn't respond to finger-wagging. And I meant it. Unless somebody has some actually editing assistance for the Editor Assistance topic, I think we're done here. Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 16:20, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Here's some actual assistance for you as an editor: when an administrator such as Cullen328 tells you not to do something, take the warning seriously. Calling it "finger wagging" and publicly announcing your intention to ignore it is a great way to guarantee you will be blocked. Here's some more actual assistance: Don't edit-war, ever. If you "don't want to make an issue of that" than don't do it. It's a very simple operation to not click that little "Undo" link. Third bit of actual assistance: Use the friggin' talk page. Which, as has been mentioned above, is what you should have done at first and what you have yet to do despite being advised to do so multiple times. You asked for links about this so here are two: WP:BRD and WP:DR. Fail to take advantage of the assistance you've been offered here and you will almost certainly wind up blocked. You seem to be approaching Editor Assistance as if it means, "Assist me in getting my edits accepted." That's not how it works. You are free to ignore the advice but you can't control what advice you'll receive. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:54, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Mitch McConnell

Answered

I am sure he is a loved or hated person. Either way, please help keep politicians pages factual and not biased. Children in schools and colleges and universities use Wikipedia. Under Mitch's profile, his picture is a turtle and other pictures have turtles in them. It is funny, yet not very professional.

For the editors out there, adult ugliness on the world wide web towards people you dislike is a disservice to our youth. It also shows the pettiness of immaturity to those around the world watching. Let's be better.

Thank you. ED — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.54.129.38 (talk) 17:41, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Those pictures were present for only 13 minutes until the person who posted them wisely took them down. Unfortunately, they didn't replace the pictures they removed to put up the joke images, but I have corrected that omission. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:48, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Flightgear flight sim article - Unresolved RFC from 2016: consensus ignored for years

Hello from a very new editor!

In the Flightgear:talk page there appears to be an RFC related to an editor from a closed-source windows gaming software background, citing WP:GAMECRUFT which is not relevant to something whose goals aren't entertainment - for example there is no equivalent of a plot, setting, or story line, there is no winning or completing, and no game design, any of which could likely be a section in a game article. This editor removed a bunch of content related to the research & development oriented opensource simulator used a lot by the Linux community. The RFC asked for a restore but this hasn't happened.

To quote https://www.flightgear.org/about/

> "The goal of the FlightGear project is to create a sophisticated and open flight simulator framework for use in research or academic environments, pilot training, as an industry engineering tool, for DIY-ers to pursue their favorite interesting flight simulation idea, and last but certainly not least as a fun, realistic, and challenging desktop flight simulator. We are developing a sophisticated, open simulation framework that can be expanded and improved upon by anyone interested in contributing."

The various edits and topics are discussed in the unresolved RFC.

In addition I'll add some further comments about 2 edits by that user:

Case 1 In this edit some information on distribution of source and binary packages was removed particularly relevant to Linux, Mac - but not so much Widnows. It's also relevant to people looking to modify source to extend FG for their own projects, and fix special case bugs they encounter.

Among other things, in Linux, a 'normal' way to use software is download the source and compile - among other things, this allows applications to be compiled in the native CPU Micro-architecture taking advantages of capabilities and working around quirks. For closed source software on Windows, the normal way of distibuting software is via compiled binary executables that are distibuted in installers or archives - these binaries are compiled for the lowest common denominator CPU features at the cost of performance. Each Linux distribution maintains it's own repositories of software and dependiencies. There are Package management systems to automatically install and buld software and their dependencies - tools like APT_(software) (Linux). Each distribution has it's own policy of which versions of software they store, the update frequency they use, and update delay to convert into the package management system's format. Packages are managed by volunteers so there may be a delay during which time people wanting the newest versions should compile. These days there is also a download and compile script for Flightgear that can make compiling easier for Linux users. Additionally, Flightgear has multiple releases: (unstable) nightly build releases with latest features, and fairly stable development builds released a few times per year. These days there are also long term stable builds for which bug fixes are backported. The result is: the exact version in the Linux or Mac package managers, and it's recency matters if users want to sample recent features.

This is basic information useful for Linux/Max users.

While the wording of that section of the article could be a bit less technical for the benefit of Windows readers - it at least gives the information directly. It shouldn't have been reverted.

The problem is a Windows user focused on Games wouldn't necessarily know about the topic. An editor only looking for closed source Windows software for entertainment from WP:Games wouldn't frequently have a use case for modifying Flightgear to link to their hardware/software industry projects and fixing special case bugs.

Case 2 In this edit he removed part of the content in a casually written section on scammers charging for Flightgear was removed - without an attempt to improve by finding sources and fixing the tone - see the talk page discussion. The person removing didn't really have a clue about the Flightgear, the common unethical reselling of opensource software by 3rd parties without contributing back, as he wasn't even able to determine the notableness. That is, he didn't have the situational awareness / knowledge to make a judgement on whether to even decide there would be sources - a lack of unfamiliarity he should have been expected to be acutely aware of when acting in good faith. If he had searched he could easily have sourced this article from 2012. Since then there's has been this from 2018.

The 2012 RPS article should have been sourced to help refactor and improve the old content into something with a neutral perspective like this attempt at a first draft.

An additional point: The Flightgear article is classified under WP:Games ..this might have to be fixed as well? What is a more suitable project? Maybe it would help to put up a notice outlining that P:Games contributions guidelines are only relevant as far as things applicable to all articles like formatting.

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Looking at the history, there doesn't appear to have been much actual content added since the RFC (2016) as far as I can see by edit comments - most of the additions are peripheral stuff or maintenance about sources,version numbers, and other trivia. As a result there doesn't seem to have been much improvement in content.

I'm new to wikipedia editing, and using talk pages which don't appear to have the visual editor making it awkward for newer contributors to get involved. Not sure what to do to resolve this RFC and move things forward. I looked at the article in september 2019, and the RFC was several years old. I also added a talk page comment to an old discussion (the RFC was closed) pointing out Flightgear wasn't a game, it's goals were different, and game guidelines were not relevant. Nothing has changed since September 2019.

It would be nice to get the RFC completed and over with - so I can proceed with adding some content I wrote in a separate sandbox page September 2019, about the project with respect to it's goals as a "framework for use in research or academic environments, pilot training, as an industry engineering tool..".

Kind regards,

- Ssvv7 (talk) 09:21, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

@Ssvv7:, I have a few points to hopefully move this along:

1. Please in the future summarize requests such as this concisely. The longer a request for assistance is, the less likely it is to be responded to.
2. The links for your diffs were malformed. Both of the ones you linked appear to more properly be this.
3. The only RfC on that article's talkpage is this one that was very clearly resolved. It was closed with a clear consensus and that question is answered.
4. The RfC and the edit you linked to have nothing to do with each other. The RfC was specifically asking about a series of edits in 2016 and has no bearing on more-recent edits. Such RfC's are not precedent-setting except to the extent that re-deleting the material that was restored would be wrong. They don't mean that other material is protected from deletion.
5. This is a content dispute and really belongs on that article talk page.
6. Stating Eik Corell is an "editor from a closed-source windows gaming software background" is casting aspersions about bad-faith motivations and such statements are sanctionable as personal attacks. Please do not do this in the future.

TL;DR version: Per the normal editing cycle, please concisely state why the material you added last year should be retained on the article talk page. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:52, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi! Ok, there are several different issues here. I was confused as this is my first article. I only looked September of last year and got confused - the RFCs, talk pages, edit histories, learning wiki syntax on talk pages etc are confusing for someone thinking of making a 1st contribution.

1. I take it the RFC at the bottom was resolved. I was confused as the RFC had comments by the editor like "I'm curious as to what specific sections should be restored. I mean as long we're not talking about [33]" about the commercial re-distrbution section which is still missing things - see point 3.

2. This section on "FlightGear code vs. binaries" was removed at some edit many years ago. It's no longer present on the main article. It shouldn't have been deleted. He said "Here .. is an example. For the first one, this is meaningless for the average reader and it's not something that is covered in normal video game articles. This is the technical mumbojumbo that I was talking about". F He said it was deleted without understanding how things worked in opensource Linux environments, and the various uses of Flightgear as it isn't a game, but an R&D tool etc. This is relevant information - at worst it should be explained more.

The situation: Flightgear has 3 branches with different standards of stability and cutting edge features that people want to try out. The section also contains information that is necessary for people on opensource Linux, where a normal way to get software is to compile from source - either from FG source code on gitgub/sourceforge, or using the packages for each Linux distro. This Package management system that will automatically get and compile all FG sources, and software libraries Flightgear dependends on. What of the 3 branches each Linux distro has, what delays there are based on volunteers creating packages, varies. Similarly Mac releases can be delayed sometimes. So the information about platforms being maintained by volunteers is also important. It would be preferable to not delete content, including the implications made by that content for users of a multi-platform sim, if an editor doesn't understand calling it "technical mumbojumbo" - because it can be many years later that the problem is rectified. It's "not something that is covered in normal video game articles" because video games are mainly closed source and distributed as executables even if they're on available Linux, and mainly developed and originate in Windows - and because Flightgear is not a game.

3. Part of This section on Commercial redistribution was removed at some edit many years ago before I got here. The parts relating to the scam reselling Flightgear - and scam behaviors like the scams lying, stealing media from other sims like FSX and calling it their sim. This info should not have been removed. The editor said: "The second one: .. unsourced accusations of lying facebook pages and coverage of irrelevant community bickering.". The editor should have done a basic google search and found sources instead of deleting - about the first result you get is for the RPS editorial - described in this draft which I wrote a day ago. As the 2012 RPS article says (about gaming simmers) "Most serious simmers are well aware of this scam.". The implication here is that simmers should also know about Flightgear. The editor should not have been so certain as to casually delete this info without trying to search for sources first, given he should be aware he didn't know much about simming even from a gaming PoV, and therefore researched the subject. Awareness of his lack of familiarity is doubly worse as he even had problems about Flightgear's notability going by the talk page. The consequence is that the problem wasn't fixed for many years.

The fix for this is to add a sources in a sub-section of Commercial re-distribution called "Criticism from media" - possibly along the lines of my draft which I've not tried adding yet.

4. I started work on a sandbox on adding some content to the article last year, and was mistakenly(?) waiting for the RFC finish, thinking the above and whatever else would be fixed. Thanks for the clarification.

The fix: I haven't tried adding this content to the article yet, but I will try sometime in the next few weeks depending on whether I write more - someone seems to have reviewed it in February and recommended inclusion.

5. I'm not sure the Flightgear article belongs under gaming - Flightgear doesn't have basic attributes of games like story/plot/setting/game design/soundtrack accompaniment to story. At least there should be some type of warning that gaming guidelines on deleting content should not apply - as there may be further people who specialise in gaming and may not have a general "editing sense" or "situational awareness". I use specialise as apparently the editor claimed he specialises in deleting WP:GAMECRUFT (?), and multiple people in the talk page pointed out the guidelines didn't apply to sims. As can be seen raising and addressing issues has the timescale of years, so deleting without situational awareness, and awareness of missing awareness, is a problem.

The fix: Not sure what should be done about that - classifying under something else, or putting a warning about being careful when deleting content a using gaming 'editing sense' when the article draws maintainers/deleters because the article is classified as a game?

Thanks

- Ssvv7 (talk) 04:17, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Looking through this, I can see a place at least for the information from the RockPaperShotgun articles. There are other problems that remain though, but I'll create a new talk page entry and talk about them there. Eik Corell (talk) 05:22, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

@Ssvv7:, just out of curiosity, what part of "...concisely state ... on the article talk page" was not clear? This is not the place to post long justifications and argumentation about your preferred version of the article or why you think certain edits should happen or not happen. The is the place to find out where such discussions should take place and the same answer given earlier is still valid: Talk:FlightGear. Eik Corell has already started the discussion there, I recommend you join him. Thank you. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 06:33, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3APaul_A._Bonacci

This page needs to be removed, its crazy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.31.128.130 (talk) 15:40, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Agreed. I have nominated it for deletion and you may add your comments there. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Muhammad and the Bible Lead Change

I was discussing a proposal to change the lead for Muhammad and the Bible as the current one has an odd sentence structure which is seemingly leading into the Muslim perspective as being objective. The talk page is Introduction Change under Talk:Muhammad and the Bible.

As of now only two people (myself and another person) agreed on changing it with a new proposal

Arguments that prophecies of Muhammad exists in the Bible have formed part of Muslim tradition from the early history of Muhammad's Ummah (Arabic: أُمَّة‎, community).[1] A number of Christians throughout history, such as John of Damascus and John Calvin, have interpreted Muhammad as being the Antichrist of the New Testament.[2][3] Muslim writers have argued that a number of specific passages within the biblical text can be specifically identified as references to Muhammad, both in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament and in the Christian New Testament. Several verses in the Quran, as well as several Hadiths, state that Muhammad is described in the Bible. On the other hand, scholars have generally interpreted these verses as referring to the community of Israel or Yahweh's personal soteriological actions regarding the Israelites or members of the faithful community, such as in the cases of Isaiah 42. The apocryphal Gospel of Barnabas, which explicitly mentions Muhammad, is widely recognized by scholars as a fabrication from the Early Modern Age.[4][5][6] Some Muslim scholars also claimed Paraclete (Greek New Testament) as Muhammad, although scholars identify the Paraclete with the Holy Spirit..

Is it possible to get a final verdict on the change, as two does not seem sufficient for a consensus? The new proposal would utilize the same sources, it restructures the lead. ChaoticTexan (talk) 23:05, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

@ChaoticTexan:, I apologize to you that this request for assistance has gone for four days without a reply. "Final verdicts" are a slippery thing here and generally only come as a result of the Arbitration process. That is a long, complex, and involved process that is a last resort in dispute resolution so I would strongly advise against it. It sounds like the Third Opinion process is a much better fit. Needing more eyes on a discussion is exactly what that process is designed for and all you have to do to join is sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar take advantage is follow the instructions at this link. I hope that helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:34, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

No worries, I appreciate the info provided. Third opinion can also be used to obtain additional input? Just want to make sure for future reference since I thought it was for disputes between editors, thanks for the reply! ChaoticTexan (talk) 19:43, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Bad faith reversions

Hello, there is a problem in some articles and I need an admin help/advice.

According to MOS:SHOCKVALUE and MOS:LEADIMAGE, "lead images should be of least shock value; an alternative image that accurately represents the topic without shock value should always be preferred". So I swapped a lead image with female nudity with another lead image without nudity that brings the same context to the topic.

But there is an user who is reverting those edits just because he likes the old images more. So instead of following Lead Image guidelines, it seems that he will try some edit war to force his preference. The articles are Outline of BDSM, Master/slave (BDSM) and List of BDSM organizations. I'm asking to some admin to take a look in case he reverts the edits for the 3rd time. Thank you very much. gabibb2 ^✉ 16:50, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

This isn't really an admin board so you may not get results here. To get admin attention, post this at WP:AN after carefully reading and complying with the instructions there. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 22:01, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thank you very much! gabibb2 ^✉ 22:04, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

I am Christopher S. Adams, Jr., Major General, USAF (Re) and wish to replace and update my photograph which, IS NOT an official Photo. This my Third attempt to remove and replace the present photo. Please provide the procedure to remove and replace my photograph.

Moved to Talk:Chris Adams (general) § Photograph

File:Christopher S. Adams, Jr.

Major General, USAF (Ret)

Creating User talk:Mary A. Adams - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mary_A._Adams&action=submit

Proposed Official Photograph Attached.

Courtesy link to article Chris Adams (general). Theroadislong (talk) 17:13, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Please note that Wikipedia accounts cannot be shared. 17:14, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Also asked at the Teahouse and now being discussed at Talk:Chris Adams (general)#Photograph and User talk:Mary A. Adams#Shared use. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:07, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Involving File:Roblox Adopt Me Gameplay.png

Someone updated the image with a completely new image, because they were concerned my previous version could trigger photosensitive epileptic seizures. I didn't see anything "seizurey" in my image when I uploaded and verified it. I found out checkered patterns could trigger PSE seizures (the checkered heart pattern on the wallpaper in the screenshot), but I don't think is is a usual PSE concern (flickering lights, which is a common PSE trigger, are usually concerned). Also Wikipedia:Content disclaimer says that Wikipedia holds media that can trigger PSE seizures of any cause. How should I deal with this? (I already left a message on the new image's uploader's talk page, but they haven't responded yet and I would like word from y'all guys.) ❤︎PrincessPandaWiki (talk | contribs) 22:52, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

PrincessPandaWiki, I see that HunterProt has "updated" the image by replacing it by a completely different image with the same name. That's definitely wrong. If they think their image is preferable to the checkerboardy one for use in the article (you haven't told us which article), they should upload it as a new image, and then discuss the issue on the article's talk page. Maproom (talk) 07:12, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Help with Fanfiction.Net?

Someone did not like my cleanup of the article, which was done in the purpose of making the article more encyclopediac with less reliance on primary sources. When I tried to revert back to my cleanup, they revert back to their version, which is similar to how the article was before, with statistics of "most popular sections", "longest fanfiction" (I didn't like how they got rid of a longest fanfiction bit with reliable secondary sources), and information on disallowed fanfiction, which may be WP:FANCRUFT. They justified their revision with more sources, which are all primary. Can I have some word of advice? ❤︎PrincessPandaWiki (talk | contribs) 23:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Welllll... generally speaking, edits may be reverted per WP:BRD and then the ball is in your court to make your case -- which you are doing here, but should be done on the article talk page instead. Other editors watching the page will (hopefully) chime in and, and (after some back and forth probably) you'll maybe get consensus for the change, or maybe not. I would just copy your plaint above directly to the article talk page, as is.

If you're trying to recruit editors here to go over to that page and support your argument... mnmh I would rather that the first step would be to talk with people who are watching the page, they will know the subject better. If that doesn't work and you can't convince each other or find a compromise, I guess an RfC would then be in order. That'd be the way to go to get new unbiased eyes on the matter. (FWIW, for my part, it doesn't appear to me that your arguments are a slam dunk, except for the part about restoring the sourced longest-fanfiction bit. The article is not too long. But that'd be for people interested in the entity to decide, I guess. Herostratus (talk) 01:57, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

What if no one goes on the talk page? ❤︎PrincessPandaWiki (talk | contribs) 12:44, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

See DISCFAIL for the best solution for that problem if you're trying to get one or more particular editors to engage. A RFC is intended to attract editors who are not currently involved in the dispute. In either case, be sure to carefully read, understand, and follow the instructions. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:00, 21 August 2020 (UTC)