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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open

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Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:59, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
1 August 2021 — 31 August 2021
Volume 1 — Issue 11
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
In the News!
  • On 12th August a GSLV Mk.2 rocket with the EOS-03 Earth observation satellite as a payload encountered a third stage failure and crashed back into the ground after reaching a maximum altitude of 140km (87 miles).
  • On 20th August a 5 hour 55 minute spacewalk was completed by chinese astronauts Nie Haisheng and Liu Boming on the Tiangong space station.
  • On 28th August an Astra rocket had an engine failure at launch, but managed to recover and fly to the upper atmosphere before leaving its flight corridor, resulting in flight temination.
Article of the month.

Apollo 7 was the first crewed flight in NASA's Apollo program, and saw the resumption of human spaceflight by the agency after the fire that killed the three Apollo 1 astronauts. The Apollo 7 crew was commanded by Walter M. Schirra, with command module pilot Donn F. Eisele and lunar module pilot R. Walter Cunningham.

Image of the month.

Official portrait of Ilan Ramon, an astronaut killed during the failed re-entry of the Space Shuttle Columbia.

Members

New Members:

Number of active members: 122. Total number of members: 335.

August Launches
All times stated here are in UTC.


  1. China Hyperbola-1Jilin-1 (3rd at 07:39) Failure Failure
  2. China Long March 6 – KL-Beta A/B (4th at 11:01) Success Success
  3. China Long March 3B/EChinaSat 2E (5th at 16:30:05) Success Success
  4. United States Antares 230+Cygnus NG-16 (10th at 22:01:05) Success Success
  5. India GSLV Mk II – EOS-03 (GISAT-1) (12th at 00:13) Failure Failure
  6. Europe France VegaPléiades-Neo 4 (17th at 01:47:06) Success Success
  7. China Long March 4B – Tianhui-2 02 (18th at 22:32) Success Success
  8. Russia Kazakhstan Soyuz-2.1bOneWeb 9 (21st at 22:13:40) Success Success
  9. China Long March 2C – RSW-01 (24th at 11:15) Success Success
  10. China Long March 3B/E – TJSW-7 (24th at 15:41) Success Success
  11. United States Rocket 3STP-27AD1 (28th at 22:35) Failure Failure
  12. United States Falcon 9CRS-23 (29th at 07:14:49) Success Success

September Launches
Launch dates can change. See a current list: here.


Article Statistics
This data reflects values from the 31 August 2021.
Spaceflight articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 7 19 5 7 38
FL 1 4 4 9
FM 102 102
GA 10 24 34 54 122
B 4 48 41 53 146
C 57 160 546 530 1,293
Start 34 157 1,106 2,262 374 3,933
Stub 9 244 2,197 1 234 2,685
List 14 124 79 225 1 443
Category 1,033 1,033
Disambig 1 49 50
File 206 206
Portal 55 55
Project 58 58
Redirect 2 1,140 1,142
Template 504 504
Other 22 22
Assessed 126 544 2,059 5,333 3,170 609 11,841
Unassessed 53 53
Total 126 544 2,059 5,333 3,170 662 11,894

Monthly Changes

Since July: 8 pages have been added to spaceflight. There is 1 less file. There is 1 less GA class article and are 4 less B-class, 10 more C-class, 17 more start-class and 11 new stub-class articles.

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Newsletter contributor: Terasail

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2021

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).

Administrator changes

readded Jake Wartenberg
removed EmperorViridian Bovary
renamed AshleyyoursmileViridian Bovary

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


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Hi! Reply-link has officially been superseded by mw:DiscussionTools, which you can install using the "Discussion tools" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. DiscussionTools, developed by the WMF's Editing Team, is faster and has more features than reply-link, and it wouldn't make sense for me to keep developing reply-link. I think the Editing Team is doing amazing work, and look forward to what they can do in the future. Thank you for using reply-link over the years! Enterprisey (talk!) 06:11, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

15:19, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nomination period closing soon

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Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are still open, but not for long. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! No further nominations will be accepted after that time. Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:43, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

15:32, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election voting has commenced

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Hey y'all, voting for the 2021 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2021. Voting will be conducted at the 2021 tranche page itself. Appropriate questions for the candidates can also be asked. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:41, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

18:30, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

U.S. military aircraft renaming proposal

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Howdy! Since we've been effectively collaborating on the grand reshuffle of U.S. military aircraft lists, I thought I would discuss an idea with you before I formally suggest it. I'd like to move List of military aircraft of the United States (1909–1919) to List of undesignated military aircraft of the United States (pre–1922). In other words, there would be two lists of undesignated aircraft—a modern list and a WWI-era list. Here's my reasoning:

  • All of the U.S. armed services have had one designation system or another continuously in effect since 1922. This list focuses on the era when undesignated aircraft were the norm rather than the exception. 1922 is a logical and easily understandable break point.
  • The list would not be overlong or scattershot; it would not have both the Curtiss Jenny and Citation Excel on it.
  • The source article would not require major surgery. Basically, the 1911 and 1914 U.S. Navy aircraft would be removed, and the lead would be edited—done!

Thoughts, feelings, opinions? Carguychris (talk) 13:01, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Carguychris I was actually thinking the same thing, but one question I have is whether there are enough post-1922 undesignated aircraft to merit a list separate from the pre-1922 list. To my knowledge, most undesignated aircraft used by the US post-1922 were never officially acquired, being loans instead. - ZLEA T\C 14:18, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
ZLEA On second thought, I think I'll keep it simple and propose List of undesignated military aircraft of the United States, and we'll consider splitting it later. Carguychris (talk) 15:09, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
ZLEA I've proposed the page move as suggested; you're invited to comment. Carguychris (talk) 19:31, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Carguychris Thanks for letting me know. And just a friendly note, you don’t need to ping people on their own talk pages since users are notified whether there is a ping or not. - ZLEA T\C 20:38, 23 September 2021 (UTC) ZLEA T\C 20:38, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021

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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting period closing soon

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Hey y'all, voting for the 2021 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche will be closing soon. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2021. Voting will be conducted at the 2021 tranche page itself. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:34, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

22:21, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2021

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • A motion has standardised the 500/30 (extended confirmed) restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee. The standardised restriction is now listed in the Arbitration Committee's procedures.
  • Following the closure of the Iranian politics case, standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, post-1978 Iranian politics, broadly construed.
  • The Arbitration Committee encourages uninvolved administrators to use the discretionary sanctions procedure in topic areas where it is authorised to facilitate consensus in RfCs. This includes, but is not limited to, enforcing sectioned comments, word/diff limits and moratoriums on a particular topic from being brought in an RfC for up to a year.

Miscellaneous

  • Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
  • The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.

16:29, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

15:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Reorganization of List of undesignated military aircraft of the United States

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Howdy! I'm in the process of fleshing out the List of undesignated military aircraft of the United States, and to cut down on the repetition, I'm toying with a presentation similar to the designated aircraft lists, i.e. mission, then manufacturer, then aircraft type. I think this presentation will make the list easier to follow, but it's also going to make it substantially longer, so I'd like your input. A dummy version of the "World War I to World War II" section can be viewed in my sandbox. Carguychris (talk) 17:09, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Carguychris I like the look of it, but one problem I have with separating the list by eras such as "World War I to World War II" is that such eras are not good cutoff points for many branches of the US military. A better way to separate the list (in my opinion) would be by the branches themselves:
  • Army (aircraft operated by the Army and Signal Corps but not by the USAAS/AAC/AAF)
  • Air Force (including the USAAS/AAC/AAF)
  • Navy
  • Marine Corps
  • Coast Guard (the USCG is still military even if it is non-combat)
  • Space Force (not sure if the USSF uses its own aircraft or borrows from other branches)
Another thing to consider is that since the undesignated aircraft do not follow any numeric sequence, perhaps we should consider something like the tables of List of aircraft of the Royal Air Force. I'm thinking that this would be more convenient if we want to list the aircraft by entry into service date. - ZLEA T\C 17:47, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I actually really like the idea of emulating the RAF list because it conveys a lot of information neatly and it's sortable. I hadn't thought of that, thanks! Also, I was already considering eliminating the eras for the exact reasons you suggest, but I'm trying to first formulate a solid plan for reorganizing the list so I don't have to do major surgery twice. Carguychris (talk) 17:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to start an example table in my sandbox. - ZLEA T\C 17:59, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments on the proposed breakdown of the service branches: my brief research suggests that the U.S. Coast Guard has only ever operated a small handful of undesignated aircraft, most of which were borrowed directly from the Navy. A brief USCG list like the ones at the bottom of the RAF list article would probably suffice, rather than a full-blown table. Also, USMC aviation has always operated in practice as a branch of naval aviation, so it's often impractical to disentangle USN aircraft from USMC aircraft, and many reference sources don't even try to do so. They may need to go in the same table. Carguychris (talk) 20:52, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Carguychris I've started the tables in my sandbox. Feel free to add to them or copy them to your own sandbox. - ZLEA T\C 00:45, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I like it! However, I like how the RAF table has a brief aircraft description under "Notes" and blank spaces for unknown dates rather than question marks, so I think I'll make those changes. I'll copy those tables to my sandbox and start building a similar USN/USMC table. Carguychris (talk) 17:00, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

20:52, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

20:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

TheWikiWizard- October 2021

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Hi, ZLEA! Here is the October 2021 issue of TheWikiWizard!

Wikipedia News

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Humour

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Editor's Notes

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  • Thank you for your patience, I was busy, and still am, so issues of TWW may be delayed.
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, October 2021

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2021

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • Phase 2 of the 2021 RfA review has commenced which will discuss potential solutions to address the 8 issues found in Phase 1. Proposed solutions that achieve consensus will be implemented and you may propose solutions till 07 November 2021.

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


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The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
1 September 2021 — 31 October 2021
Volume 1 — Issue 12
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
Featured Content!
Members

New Members: No new members.

Number of active members: 127. Total number of members: 340.

October Launches
All times stated here are in UTC. See a current list: here.


  1. Russia Kazakhstan Crewed mission Soyuz-2.1aSoyuz MS-19 (5th at 08:55:02) Success Success
  2. Russia Soyuz-2.1bOneWeb (14th at 09:40:10) Success Success
  3. China Long March 2D – Solar Explorer (14th at 10:51) Success Success
  4. China Long March 2FShenzhou 13 (15th at 16:23:56) Success Success
  5. United States Atlas VLucy (16th at 09:34:00) Success Success
  6. South Korea NuriDummy payload (21st at 08:00) Failure Failure
  7. China Long March 3B/E – Shijian-21 (24th at 01:27:03) Success Success
  8. Europe France Ariane 5SES-17 (24th at 02:10) Success Success
  9. Japan H-IIAQZS-1R (26th at 02:19:37) Success Success
  10. China KuaizhouJilin-1 Gaofen-02F (27th at 06:19) Success Success
  11. Russia Kazakhstan Soyuz-2.1aMS-18 (28th at 00:00:32) Success Success

November Launches
Launch dates can change. See a current list: here.


Article Statistics
This data reflects values from the 31 October 2021.
Spaceflight articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 7 21 6 7 41
FL 2 4 4 10
FM 103 103
GA 11 27 36 54 128
B 4 47 40 56 147
C 58 159 560 587 1,364
Start 33 160 1,108 2,331 334 3,966
Stub 11 243 2,186 217 2,657
List 15 126 85 230 1 457
Category 1 1,042 1,043
Disambig 51 51
File 212 212
Portal 55 55
Project 59 59
Redirect 1 1,147 1,148
Template 505 505
Other 23 23
Assessed 128 553 2,082 5,457 3,197 552 11,969
Total 128 553 2,082 5,457 3,197 552 11,969

Monthly Changes

Since August: 75 pages have been added to spaceflight. There are 3 more FA class articles, 1 more FL class page and 1 more FM class file. There are 6 less files. There are 6 more GA class articles and 1 more B-class article, 71 more C-class, 33 more start-class and 28 less stub-class articles.

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20:27, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

20:35, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

22:05, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

20:01, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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Sock

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Looks like Special:Contributions/Urban_Versis_32 may be Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Extrapolaris. Too many similarities. BilCat (talk) 02:01, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BilCat thanks for letting me know. - ZLEA T\C 02:13, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

21:14, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, November 2021

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2021

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2021).

Administrator changes

removed A TrainBerean HunterEpbr123GermanJoeSanchomMysid

Technical news

  • Unregistered editors using the mobile website are now able to receive notices to indicate they have talk page messages. The notice looks similar to what is already present on desktop, and will be displayed on when viewing any page except mainspace and when editing any page. (T284642)
  • The limit on the number of emails a user can send per day has been made global instead of per-wiki to help prevent abuse. (T293866)

Arbitration



21:58, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

TheWikiWizard- December 2021

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Hi, ZLEA! Here is the December 2021 issue of TheWikiWizard!

Humour

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  • Christmas is here again, time to bug people to get you the stuff you really, really want! (Anyone going to get me some butter cookies, or that giant Costco teddy bear?)
  • If you don't like turkey, there's always the rotisserie chicken!
  • If you ate too much turkey and regret it, then you should have read the above message ;)

Wikipedia News

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We don't have much to report this month, but we do have the following...
  • The Simple English Wikipedia has almost reached 200,000 articles!
  • Wikipedia Asian Month which took place in November, has finished. Now, all the articles are judged and then it is determined who gets the postcards, even if you don't get one, or didn't participate, there is always next year, and we thank you for everything you have done!
  • Arbitration Committee Elections December 2021 took place earlier this month, for elegible editors. (At the time of this writing it was still taking place, but I assumed by the time this issue was sent, it would have been finished - It is set to finish at December 6 2021 at 23:59 UTC )

Editor's Notes

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  • I haven't forgotten about TWW ;) Don't worry.
  • TWW is in the process of getting a new main page, if you have any ideas, or would like to help, please shoot a message on the TWW talk page.
  • That's it for this issue! This is the last issue for 2021. See you all in 2022! Have a safe and happy holiday season!
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Happy Holidays! --つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 01:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Bots Newsletter, December 2021

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Bots Newsletter, December 2021
BRFA activity by month

Welcome to the eighth issue of the English Wikipedia's Bots Newsletter, your source for all things bot. Maintainers disappeared to parts unknown... bots awakening from the slumber of æons... hundreds of thousands of short descriptions... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Wikipedia's most distinguished newsletter about bots.

Our last issue was in August 2019, so there's quite a bit of catching up to do. Due to the vast quantity of things that have happened, the next few issues will only cover a few months at a time. This month, we'll go from September 2019 through the end of the year. I won't bore you with further introductions — instead, I'll bore you with a newsletter about bots.

Overall

  • Between September and December 2019, there were 33 BRFAs. Of these, Green checkmarkY 25 were approved, and 8 were unsuccessful (Dark red X symbolN2 3 denied, Blue question mark? 3 withdrawn, and Expired 2 expired).

September 2019

Look! It's moving. It's alive. It's alive... It's alive, it's moving, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, IT'S ALIVE!
  • Green checkmarkY Monkbot 16, DannyS712 bot 60, Ahechtbot 6, PearBOT 3, Qbugbot 3 · Dark red X symbolN2 DannyS712 bot 5, PkbwcgsBot 24 · Blue question mark? DannyS712 bot 61, TheSandBot 4
  • TParis goes away, UTRSBot goes kaput: Beeblebrox noted that the bot for maintaining on-wiki records of UTRS appeals stopped working a while ago. TParis, the semi-retired user who had previously run it, said they were "unlikely to return to actively editing Wikipedia", and the bot had been vanquished by trolls submitting bogus UTRS requests on behalf of real blocked users. While OAuth was a potential fix, neither maintainer had time to implement it. TParis offered to access to the UTRS WMFLabs account to any admin identified with the WMF: "I miss you guys a whole lot [...] but I've also moved on with my life. Good luck, let me know how I can help". Ultimately, SQL ended up in charge. Some progress was made, and the bot continued to work another couple months — but as of press time, UTRSBot has not edited since November 2019.
  • Article-measuring contest resumed: The list of Wikipedians by article count, which had lain dead for several years, was triumphantly resurrected by GreenC following a bot request.

October 2019

November 2019

Now you're thinking with portals.

December 2019

In the next issue of Bots Newsletter:
What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?

  • What happens when two bots want to clerk the same page?
  • What happens when an adminbot goes hog wild?
  • Will reFill ever get fixed?
  • What's up with ListeriaBot, anyway?
  • Python 3.4 deprecation? In my PyWikiBot? (It's more likely than you think!)

These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the January 2022 Bots Newsletter. Tune in, or miss out!

Signing off... jp×g 04:29, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]


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22:26, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

HESA Saeqeh

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hellow. the word "saeqeh" is 100% arabic meaning thunderbolt. Azarakhsh is the persian word for thunderbolt.Sikorsky Cyclone (talk) 10:18, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sikorsky Cyclone When I pop صاعقه into Google Translate, it automatically detects it as Persian for "lightning". If you read the Arabic script article, you will notice that the first sentence states that the script is used not only used for Arabic, but many other languages as well (the first listed being Persian). Now I ask you, do you read Arabic script? Can you be 100% certain that the script is not meant to be Persian? - ZLEA T\C 15:16, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

22:04, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

206 navbox

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Hi Z, thanks for creating the Template:JetRanger family navbox. I actually started on doing one last week, but realized I didn't have enough time and closed it out uncreated. I was also thinking about one for the F-5 and F-18 families, since they are distantly but directly related. Do you think that would work? Regards. BilCat (talk) 00:15, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Btw, I was going to include the Bell 47J Ranger, as it's sort of a predecessor, especially of the HO-4. Do you think that would be worth adding? BilCat (talk) 00:23, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BilCat I had considered including the Model 47J in the navbox, but I had found no evidence that the Ranger and JetRanger were actually related other than name. I would not be opposed to adding it if we can find that they shared a development lineage. As for an F-5/F-18 navbox, I think it would work. - ZLEA T\C 01:13, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
BilCat On the 47J, it's probably more of a "spiritual" connection, as shown by the name, with Bell wanting to capitalize on the previous name, and it worked. I used to have a source that talked about the redesign of the 206, and it might have mentioned that sort of connection. As to the F-5 and F-18, there's a definite evolutionary design connection, which is covered in the YF-17 article, though there are no common parts, of course. Also, I can see the family resemblance in the HESA Saeqeh, which is an F-5 with F-18-style twin fins. It's quite remarkable, to me anyway. BilCat (talk) 01:54, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree about the HESA Saeqeh, along with the more blatant HESA copies. I'm working on the navbox now and am including the Iranian aircraft in the list of foreign variants. As for the 47J, I'm fine with inclusion in the JetRanger navbox as a predecessor, and possible as a variant if a direct developmental lineage can be confirmed. - ZLEA T\C 02:00, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If I can jump in here - there is no design linage or parts commonality shared between the Bell 47J Ranger and the Bell 206 Jet Ranger. Bell just liked the marketing value of the Ranger name and decided to keep it for the turbine 206. - Ahunt (talk) 02:09, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
On the 47J, I think we could put it in a See also in the footer. Z, thanks for going ahead and creating the F-5 navbox. Though I fully intended to do it myself, and I wasn't fishing for someone to do it for me (although I have been known to do that!), I do appreciate it very much. BilCat (talk) 03:28, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind creating these navboxes. It gives me something to do between semesters when I don't have access to my university's library to create obscure aircraft articles. - ZLEA T\C 03:31, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. I was going to name it "F-5 and F-18 families", and have the two types separated to make clear that while there is a direct connection, it's a distant one. Do you think that would work better? BilCat (talk) 03:48, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That would probably be better. - ZLEA T\C 03:49, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't think to nest them. It's done. - ZLEA T\C 04:01, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
On the 47J, I think we could put it in a See also in the footer. - works for me! - Ahunt (talk) 03:52, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 22

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The Signpost: 28 December 2021

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, December 2021

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The WikiEagle - January 2022

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The WikiEagle
The WikiProject Aviation Newsletter
Volume I — Issue 1
Aviation Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Outreach • The WikiEagle
Announcements
  • After over a decade of silence, the WikiProject Aviation newsletter is making a comeback under the name The WikiEagle. This first issue was sent to all active members of the project and its sub-projects. If you wish to continue receiving The WikiEagle, you can add your username to the mailing list. For now the newsletter only covers general project news and is run by only one editor. If you wish to help or to become a columnist, please let us know. If you have an idea which you believe would improve the newsletter, please share it; suggestions are welcome and encouraged.
  • On 16 December, an RfC was closed which determined theaerodrome.com to be an unreliable source. The website, which is cited over 1,500 articles, mainly on WWI aviation, as of the publishing of this issue.
  • Luft46.com has been added to the list of problematic sources after this discussion.
  • The Jim Lovell article was promoted to Featured Article status on 26 December after being nominated by Hawkeye7.
  • The Raymond Hesselyn article was promoted to Good Article status on 4 December after being nominated by Zawed.
  • The Supermarine Sea King article was promoted to Good Article status on 22 December after being nominated by Amitchell125.
  • The William Hodgson (RAF officer) article was promoted to Good Article status on 26 December after being nominated by Zawed.
Members

New Members

Number of active members: 386. Total number of members: 921.

Closed Discussions


Featured Article assessment

Good Article assessment

Deletion

Requested moves

Article Statistics
This data reflects values from DMY.
New/Ongoing Discussions

On The Main Page


Did you know...

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Newsletter contributor: ZLEA

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:37, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:New articles (Aircraft)

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Hi ZLEA, just a reminder that new templates/navboxes need to be added to Wikipedia:New articles (Aircraft). Generally, editors are expected to add their own creations there. I've been lax on doing that myself for navboxes I make, but it is helpful to other editors to know what's been created recently. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 05:06, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BilCat Thanks for letting me know. - ZLEA T\C 13:47, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. It might be something to highlight in a future newsletter. BilCat (talk) 16:19, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – January 2022

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following consensus at the 2021 RfA review, the autopatrolled user right has been removed from the administrators user group; admins can grant themselves the autopatrolled permission if they wish to remain autopatrolled.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • The functionaries email list (functionaries-en@lists.wikimedia.org) will no longer accept incoming emails apart from those sent by list members and WMF staff. Private concerns, apart from those requiring oversight, should be directly sent to the Arbitration Committee.

Happy First Edit Day!

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CAPTAIN RAJU Thanks. I can't believe it's been five years already. - ZLEA T\C 21:04, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for originally providing the 2★4 image and adding it to the page! 66.30.12.132 (talk) 17:19, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome. - ZLEA T\C 17:54, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

01:22, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Washington quarter design

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Well, obviously we have an issue regarding the new Gardin design. If we put the high-res one from the Mint image library it will be deleted since it is from that contractor. The sketch used in the competition looks a bit different than the actual coin, certainly the mint mark is in a different spot. We may have to actually photograph one unless you have an idea.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:10, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wehwalt The only other idea I can think of is finding a coin grading service which releases their images under a compatible license. As far as I can tell, none of the major grading services use such a license, but it's probably something we should look into further. - ZLEA T\C 03:43, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

19:54, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

21:37, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, January 2022

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The Signpost: 30 January 2022

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17:41, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Bots Newsletter, January 2022

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Bots Newsletter, January 2022
BRFA activity by month

Welcome to the ninth issue of the English Wikipedia's Bots Newsletter, your source for all things bot. Vicious bot-on-bot edit warring... superseded tasks... policy proposals... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Wikipedia's most distinguished newsletter about bots.

After a long hiatus between August 2019 and December 2021, there's quite a bit of ground to cover. Due to the vastness, I decided in December to split the coverage up into a few installments that covered six months each. Some people thought this was a good idea, since covering an entire year in a single issue would make it unmanageably large. Others thought this was stupid, since they were getting talk page messages about crap from almost three years ago. Ultimately, the question of whether each issue covers six months or a year is only relevant for a couple more of them, and then the problem will be behind us forever.

Of course, you can also look on the bright side – we are making progress, and this issue will only be about crap from almost two years ago. Today we will pick up where we left off in December, and go through the first half of 2020.

Overall
In the first half of 2020, there were 71 BRFAs. Of these, Green checkmarkY 59 were approved, and 12 were unsuccessful (with Dark red X symbolN2 8 denied, Blue question mark? 2 withdrawn, and Expired 2 expired).

January 2020

A python
A python
A python
0.4 pythons
Yeah, you're not gonna be able to get away with this anymore.

February 2020

Speaking of WikiProject Molecular Biology, Listeria went wild in February

March 2020

April 2020

Listeria being examined

Issues and enquiries are typically expected to be handled on the English Wikipedia. Pages reachable via unified login, like a talk page at Commons or at Italian Wikipedia could also be acceptable [...] External sites like Phabricator or GitHub (which require separate registration or do not allow for IP comments) and email (which can compromise anonymity) can supplement on-wiki communication, but do not replace it.

May 2020

We heard you like bots, so we made a bot that reports the status of your bots, so now you can use bots while you use bots

June 2020

A partial block averted at the eleventh hour for the robot that makes Legos

Conclusion

  • What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?
  • Will Citation bot ever be set free to roam the project?
  • What's the deal with all those book links that InternetArchiveBot is adding to articles?
  • Should we keep using Gerrit for MediaWiki?
  • What if we had a day for bots to make cosmetic edits?

These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the February 2022 Bots Newsletter. Tune in, or miss out!

Signing off... jp×g 23:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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The WikiEagle - February 2022

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The WikiEagle
The WikiProject Aviation Newsletter
Volume I — Issue 2
Aviation Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Outreach • The WikiEagle
Columns

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2022

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2022).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The user group oversight will be renamed suppress in around 3 weeks. This will not affect the name shown to users and is simply a change in the technical name of the user group. The change is being made for technical reasons. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections.
  • The Reply Tool feature, which is a part of Discussion Tools, will be opt-out for everyone logged in or logged out starting 7 February 2022. Editors wishing to comment on this can do so in the relevant Village Pump discussion.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


Thanks

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Just dropping in to say I appreciate your work on the WikiEagle. It looks good - keep up the good work! Retswerb (talk) 08:28, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

21:15, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

TheWikiWizard- Jan/Feb 2022

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Hi, ZLEA! Here is the first issue of 2022 for the TheWikiWizard!

Humor

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  • Since it's/was Lunar New Year, you can bug your boss at work for that extra fifty dollar bill ;)
  • New Year, New world, Same TWW :P
  • Did you work off that turkey? Don't worry, editing Wikipedia burns calories... I am pretty sure...

Wiki(p/m)edia News

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Editor's Notes

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  • We are combining two months' issues into one, to try out a new format. This is the first issue of 2022. Happy New Year!
  • That's it for this time, see you in the next issue!
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Wishing you a good 2022! --つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 01:50, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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TheWikiWizard- Jan/Feb 2022

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Hi, ZLEA! Here is the first issue of 2022 for the TheWikiWizard!

Humor

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  • Since it's/was Lunar New Year, you can bug your boss at work for that extra fifty dollar bill ;)
  • New Year, New world, Same TWW :P
  • Did you work off that turkey? Don't worry, editing Wikipedia burns calories... I am pretty sure...

Wiki(p/m)edia News

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Editor's Notes

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  • We are combining two months' issues into one, to try out a new format. This is the first issue of 2022. Happy New Year!
  • That's it for this time, see you in the next issue!
Like this Issue? Got Feedback? Spot a mistake? Discuss this issue here

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Wishing you a good 2022! --つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 01:50, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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19:17, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News

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Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

  • AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
  • The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

19:11, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 February 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIV, February 2022

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22:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2022

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no it is the an225 indeed

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well, maybe you do not know all history, but checked also with the director and other people of Aviation Safety, satellite images and many opinions and we concluded, the hangar is she, the an124 is in the closed hangar in front this opened. the an225 could not take off according previously, they even tried, but a motor of 6, so even empty with 5 the repairs were not finished and then in doubt they left the aircraft there ... the paradox is the ukrainian air forces were trying to fight the marines trucks of russian invaded and it came two air surfaces missiles, one at rear and one at front. The guy of Aviation safety has 75 years experience with aircraft crashes so believe his eyes are good enough to discerne about now only expects a photo of russians confirming the structure rupture https://aviation-safety.net/ --90.186.219.179 (talk) 17:04, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please show me where it has been confirmed that the aircraft is the An-225. aviation-safety.net is not an official source that has access to Antonov Airport at this time, so they are going off of the same information we are. Misinformation about the war is rampant, so you can't just believe everything you see on Twitter. The An-124 can be easily mistaken for the An-225 when the wings and tail are obscured by smoke. This coupled with the apparent mismatched hangar damage seems to indicate that the video is of a different hangar and aircraft. Furthermore, there may have been several An-124s in hangars identical to the An-225's hangar.
Also, I fail to see a paradox in what you said. - ZLEA T\C 17:20, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, sorry for not including a reference in my edit - I had assumed that the reference used in the next paragraph would be sufficient; I will add that source to my edit. - AlecCoates T\C 00:03, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

21:15, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

22:06, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

16:00, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 March 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, March 2022

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