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TAPINTO: A local New Jersey USA news source I frequently use doesn't seem to get "converted" any more by Refill toolforge?
[edit]hi - A news publication in NJ USA called TapInto has a number of city-based news pages by different journalists. When I put a bare URL recently using the Refill Tool forge tool, it no longer seems to fill it? Wondering why and if there is a fix? I also opened a discussion awhile back on TapInto' talk page. Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhdshoes2 (talk • contribs) 02:38, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Bhdshoes2: I've only just noticed your message here - sorry! I have now cleaned the article. The references were formatted as external links which is why reFill didn't process them. The only external links it updates are ones which have no title e.g. [1]. I turned the externa links into inline references and then reFill ran fine on it. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Should we change the link?
[edit]For the past month or so, I only get a 403 error page from the link. The suggested https://refill.toolforge.org/ng/ seems to work. Should we change the link to point there, or is there some fix planned for the errors at https://refill.toolforge.org/ ? Rjjiii (talk) 17:22, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I changed the page lede to point to toolforge:refill/ng. The problem is described at phab:T369439 and Wikipedia talk:ReFill/Archive 4#504s for a few hours now, and has now persisted since 5 July 2024. I'm not sure how the two interfaces differed, and wish that was documented. The bug seems likely to get fixed eventually, so we should continue to monitor toolforge:refill. Daask (talk) 16:52, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Daask: thanks for doing this. The old version had stopped working suddenly, and given that the 'new' version continued to work, we abandoned the old version but overlooked making that change. The old and new versions did much the same thing. See Wikipedia talk:ReFill/technical#/ng, language support for how they differed. The old version won't be reinstated. By the way, if you have the technical skills and the interest, it would be great if you'd like to volunteer to work on the code? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Good idea killing off the old version. Should make it much easier to get everything into one repo and one branch. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:15, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Novem Linguae: thanks very much for setting up the redirect. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Good idea killing off the old version. Should make it much easier to get everything into one repo and one branch. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:15, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Daask: thanks for doing this. The old version had stopped working suddenly, and given that the 'new' version continued to work, we abandoned the old version but overlooked making that change. The old and new versions did much the same thing. See Wikipedia talk:ReFill/technical#/ng, language support for how they differed. The old version won't be reinstated. By the way, if you have the technical skills and the interest, it would be great if you'd like to volunteer to work on the code? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Unnecessary :443 in URL
[edit]reFill 2 strangely wrote |url=https://www.bizpal.gov.nl.ca:443 in [2]. It should strip the ":443" part because that's the default for HTTPS.
The website itself played a role in this. curl -v http://www.bcbizpal.ca/ returned < Location: https://www.bizpal.gov.nl.ca:443. However, browsers like Firefox will actually immediately remove the ":443" part in the address bar and before making the network request. reFill should stop adding the port when it's ":443" so that both the HTML and wikitext source is cleaner (hovering doesn't show the :443 for some reason). 174.89.12.36 (talk) 13:35, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Per Wikipedia:ReFill#How it works, it is actually Citoid that is not stripping the 443, rather than something that should be fixed in reFill. reFill is just a wrapper of Citoid. I can't see anything relating to this in the open tasks in Phabricator, so you could report it there? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
RTE.ie is not a journal
[edit]Refill converts raw www.rte.ie urls to Template:cite journal, thus causing a cs1 error flag (" {{cite journal}}: Empty citation (help): Cite journal requires |journal=(help)"). Template:cite web would be more appropriate, in general, with Template:cite news for www.rte.ie/news, similar issue for www.bis.org. -Bogger (talk) 12:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Broken again, I think
[edit]This appears to be breaking again. I had the "pending" message for an hour this afternoon (from around 3.30pm GMT) and again this evening (from around 9.30pm GMT). As of now, it continues not to process reference. If this afternoon's experience is anything to go by then hopefully it should start working again in the next few minutes, but whatever the case, could someone please take a look and work out what's going on? Thanks in advance, This is Paul (talk) 22:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @This is Paul: I know it is frustrating when this happens. Unfortunately, I don't have the Kubernetes skills to troubleshoot it, especially as that needs to take place promptly when it is not working and that doesn't always fit in with my work commitments or home life, as a volunteer. In the past, we have had friendly Wikimedia Foundation people who were interested in the project and responsive to requests for investigation, but that seems to have waned. When reFill does recover from these outages it isn't by anyone having intervened manually - it just seems to fix itself, which means we are none the wiser as to what was wrong or what could be done manually to fix it more promptly instead of just waiting for it to recover 'by itself'. I know that's not what you want to hear, but that's where we are - suggestions, or offers of technical help, most welcome from anyone reading this. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)