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[edit]- This is a test for the new signature. --Slate Weasel (talk|contribs) 21:59, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- With nowiki tags on the pipe. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 11:43, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Erettopterus size chart
[edit]Hi, Slate Weasel. During the review of Erettopterus, we have come to the conclusion that E. grandis should be included. If you are so kind to modify it, I remind you that it measured 250 cm. Super Ψ Dro 12:18, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- First of all, thanks for adding it! It happens that a recent journal of 2015 shows this size as valid, and we suppose it is true, and therefore, we decided that the species should be included in the size chart. Super Ψ Dro 16:45, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
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Graphic Designer's Barnstar
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For your excellent, vigorous and tireless work in creating size diagrams for extinct animals, in particular the eurypterids. Ichthyovenator (talk) 14:35, 9 September 2018 (UTC) |
Thanks! I am working on creating a size comparison for one genus in every eurypterid family, so I still have plenty of work left to do! I look forwards to more eurypterid GAs! --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 15:07, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Graphic Designer's Barnstar 2: The Sequel
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I see somebody already left you one of these but you deserve another one for a fantastic job on palaeontological scale diagrams! Also, nice work on those for Deinocheirus and giant Ornithopods, they're two of your best ones yet. ▼PσlєοGєєкƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼ 20:30, 4 October 2018 (UTC) |
- Wow! I'm glad you like the giant ornithopods, especially since I'm not fully sure if they've passed yet. Great work on spinosaurids (and scale diagrams, too), it's nice to see Suchomimus get some love, as it's one of the most complete. It'll be nice to get a good topic on dinosaurs, seeing how Tyrannosauridae failed (and, "unfortunately", a bunch of new species got described. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 20:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
The Photographer's Barnstar
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Thanks for your contributions to the eurypterid articles! You deserve more of these. Super Ψ Dro 22:01, 30 October 2018 (UTC) |
- Thanks! --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 22:02, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
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Puertasaurus
[edit]Hello:
The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Puertasaurus has been completed.
Please let me now if you have any questions or concerns.
Best of luck with the GAN.
Regards,
Twofingered Typist (talk) 20:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the copyedits! I do have one question, however: what does the "use mdy dates" tag mean? --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 21:55, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Twofingered Typist, sorry, I forgot to ping you. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 00:39, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Slate Weasel It's good practice to keep all the date formats in an article consistent. I found several that were not so fixed them to agree with the format of the majority of dates. Adding the month/day/year tag indicates to other editors the dates should all be formatted this way (m/d/y/). Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation! Will remember to date things more consistently in the future! --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 12:51, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Slate Weasel It's good practice to keep all the date formats in an article consistent. I found several that were not so fixed them to agree with the format of the majority of dates. Adding the month/day/year tag indicates to other editors the dates should all be formatted this way (m/d/y/). Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Puertasaurus
[edit]Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Puertasaurus you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of PaleoGeekSquared -- PaleoGeekSquared (talk) 19:20, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Puertasaurus
[edit]The article Puertasaurus you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Puertasaurus for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of PaleoGeekSquared -- PaleoGeekSquared (talk) 22:02, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Puertasaurus
[edit]On 31 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Puertasaurus, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Puertasaurus (illustration shown), one of the largest dinosaurs, is known from only four vertebrae? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Puertasaurus. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Puertasaurus), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:01, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Antarctosaurus Size Charts
[edit]Hi! Would you take issue if I made some minor modifications to your two Antarctosaurus Size Charts? Basically, because A. wichmannianus is so complicated I want to move the silhouette slightly away from Bonitasaura, to be a little more generic (Bonitasaura seems to be coming out closer to lognkosauria whereas the braincase of A.wichmannianus, at least, might be a nemegtosaur). Seen here: [1] I also want to slim down the legs on A.giganteus. Of the few bones we have are two very slender femurs, which have been noted as such in the literature. The current diagram looks somewhat like Opisthocoelicaudia in terms of robustness, which happens to be a bit of an oddball in that department. I've also updated that diagram to your new standard human figure/grey floor. See here: [2] Steveoc 86 (talk) 22:32, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Changes look great! Feel free to upload anytime! Antarctosaurus is definitely very weird. My "A." gianteus is very poorly done, and wasn't even based on anything, I'd been wondering what to do with it for quite awhile. Thanks for the edits! --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 00:18, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- By the way, perhaps the box and nonbold black text key could replace the current bold text in the latter diagram? --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 01:38, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, I can do that. Do you prefer the grid in front of or behind the dino? To be honest, the update to giganteus isn't 100% based on any specific titanosaur either. With just a couple of limb bones to go off and with most studies being like, 'it's very big titanosaur', I don't feel comfortable basing it on anything too specific. Interestingly, Notocolossus is from the same formation as giganteus, it's possible they are synonymous, but unfortunately, there is no overlapping material. Steveoc 86 (talk) 10:18, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- Probably in front of the dino for consistency. My old giganteus wasn't 100% based on any sauropod, so your new version is still easily an improvement :) . Hmm... Notocolossus is proving to have the potential of being more awesome than any of us ever expected! --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 12:54, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, I can do that. Do you prefer the grid in front of or behind the dino? To be honest, the update to giganteus isn't 100% based on any specific titanosaur either. With just a couple of limb bones to go off and with most studies being like, 'it's very big titanosaur', I don't feel comfortable basing it on anything too specific. Interestingly, Notocolossus is from the same formation as giganteus, it's possible they are synonymous, but unfortunately, there is no overlapping material. Steveoc 86 (talk) 10:18, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- By the way, perhaps the box and nonbold black text key could replace the current bold text in the latter diagram? --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 01:38, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
No the skull does match
[edit]https://sta.sh/02cryk88l08q It was from the article --Bubblesorg (talk) 23:52, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- I've explained my reasoning more thoroughly on the image review page. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 11:46, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Size Charts
[edit]Hi! May i ask wich program do you use to make your charts, they appear to be really clean and aesthetic and also what do you think about quality of my charts? I just started to make them and just want to know a few tipsKoprX (talk) 18:55, 19 May 2019 (UTC)KoprX
- I make my size comparisons using a program called Inkscape. It is completely free (and freely licensed, too), and uses a file format called SVG (Scaleable Vector Graphics). Hypothetically, an SVG will retain its quality no matter how much you scale it, as it doesn't use pixels, which is why they appear to be really clean. For drawing in Inscape, pressing "b" on your keyboard activates a polygon-drawing tool. "F2" activates the path editing tool, which allows you to edit the polygon and smooth out the corners. "F1" is the standard move tool. Hopefully this helps. User:Steveoc 86 and User:PaleoGeekSquared also make size charts with SVG, so they may also be able to answer some questions. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 11:53, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for all advices, this is really great programKoprX (talk) 16:09, 22 May 2019 (UTC)KoprX
Carcharodontosaur Size Charts
[edit]Hey Slate Weasel. i am creating a chart of carnosaur silhouettes, if you have any spare time would it be possible for you to create a silhouettes of giganotosaurus, mapusaurus and carcharodontosaurus showing only their largest size and colored green. thanks Dinomike123--Dinomike123 (talk) 11:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
- I actually already have created & scaled silhouettes for these three taxa. Giganotosaurus is also already in green, and should be ready (I updated it this month). I also have Carcharodontosaurus and Mapusaurus, but they're going to get new heads soon. I can upload the silhouette files separately, too, if this would help. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 11:56, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
hey slate weasel, i saw the silhouettes and they are excellent, i have already downloaded them because i like them so much but they show different specimens, would it be possible for silhouettes that show only the very largest specimens known and colored green for mapusaurus and carcharodontsaurus.thanks mike--Dinomike123 (talk) 10:18, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
- Just to let you know I recently remade both Slate Weasel's Giganotosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus to better match their proportions. You to can see them in my size comparison.KoprX (talk) 14:11, 23 May 2019 (UTC)KoprX
Hi i just ended work on theropod size charts and since i was working on your's carcharodontosauridae silhouettes do you think i should also update File:Carcharodontosaurid scale.svg? I know you was working on this so I don't want to interfere, but i have done minor improvements to three biggest taxa.KoprX (talk) 10:13, 4 June 2019 (UTC)KoprX
Hey Slate Weasel, just wondering about your further plans for Argentinosaurus. Do you need any help with it? If you wish, we could work on it together to get it to GA level soon. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 08:47, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- I had kind of forgotten about it, to be completely honest. It definitely would be nice to come back to it though, as it's one of the most popular dinosaur articles that we have, although I'm rather busy right now, so I won't be able to do much until mid-June, but I'd be pleased to do it then. I will have to update my skeletal sometime (insufficient cartilage, apparently), too. By the way, how close are we to getting Confuciusornis (I finally can spell it correctly!) to GA? --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 00:19, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sounds good! Let me know if you need any help then. I have some additional books containing useful summaries, if you are interested. Regarding Confuciusornis, I think it is approximately on 70 %. There are still many small things and papers that need to be incorporated. In the next couple of days I plan to do a more extensive search to find out what is missing, and post a new to-do that would primarily contain many minor jobs that are relatively quick to do (but that still need to be done, and which become a huge task if a single person has to do all of those alone). It would be highly appreciated if you want to take over the one or the other (it certainly has time until mid-June!). --Jens Lallensack (talk) 08:13, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
what do you think?
[edit]so what do you think?--Bubblesorg (talk) 15:46, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- Well, it definitely is better than the previous one, but there are still some issues: the eye is too big to fit inside of the sclerotic ring, the tip of the lower jaw is still too square, tyrannosauroid-grade filaments probably couldn't have been green. You should definitely get this checked at WP:DINOART before adding it to the article. Also, the image could use a bit more shading. --Slate Weasel (talk | contribs) 21:12, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
May 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- May 2019—Issue 002
- Tree of Life
- Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Cretoxyrhina by Macrophyseter |
Spinophorosaurus by FunkMonk/Jens Lallensack |
- Fundamental changes being discussed at WikiProject Biology
On 23 May, user Prometheus720 created a talk page post, "Revamp of Wikiproject Biology--Who is In?". In the days since, WP:BIOL has been bustling with activity, with over a dozen editors weighing in on this discussion, as well as several others that have subsequently spawned. An undercurrent of thought is that WP:BIOL has too many subprojects, preventing editors from easily interacting and stopping a "critical mass" of collaboration and engagement. Many mergers and consolidations of subprojects have been tentatively listed, with a consolidation of WikiProjects Genetics + Molecular and Cell Biology + Computational Biology + Biophysics currently in discussion. Other ideas being aired include updating old participants lists, redesigning project pages to make them more user-friendly, and clearly identifying long- and short-term goals.
- Editor Spotlight: These editors want you to write about dinosaurs
Editors FunkMonk and Jens Lallensack had a very fruitful month, collaborating to bring two dinosaur articles to GA and then nominating them both for FA. They graciously decided to answer some questions for the first ToL Editor Spotlight, giving insight to their successful collaborations, explaining why you should collaborate with them, and also sharing some tidbits about their lives off-Wikipedia.
1) Enwebb: How long have you two been collaborating on articles?
- Jens Lallensack: I started in the German Wikipedia in 2005 but switched to the English Wikipedia because of its very active dinosaur project. My first major collaboration with FunkMonk was on Heterodontosaurus in 2015.
- FunkMonk: Yeah, we had interacted already on talk pages and through reviewing each other's articles, and at some point I was thinking of expanding Heterodontosaurus, and realised Jens had already written the German Wikipedia version, so it seemed natural to work together on the English one. Our latest collaboration was Spinophorosaurus, where by another coincidence, I had wanted to work on that article for the WP:Four Award, and it turned out that Jens had a German book about the expedition that found the dinosaur, which I wouldn't have been able to utilise with my meagre German skills. Between those, we also worked on Brachiosaurus, a wider Dinosaur Project collaboration between several editors.
2) Enwebb: Why dinosaurs?
- JL: Because of the huge public interest in them. But dinosaurs are also highly interesting from a scientific point of view: key evolutionary innovations emerged within this group, such as warm-bloodedness, gigantism, and flight. Dinosaur research is, together with the study of fossil human remains, the most active field in paleontology. New scientific techniques and approaches tend to get developed within this field. Dinosaur research became increasingly interdisciplinary, and now does not only rely on various fields of biology and geology, but also on chemistry and physics, among others. Dinosaurs are therefore ideal to convey scientific methodology to the general public.
- FM: As outlined above, dinosaurs have been described as a "gateway to science"; if you learn about dinosaurs, you will most likely also learn about a lot of scientific fields you would not necessarily be exposed to otherwise. On a more personal level, having grown up with and being influenced by various dinosaur media, it feels pretty cool to help spread knowledge about these animals, closest we can get to keeping them alive.
3) Enwebb: Why should other editors join you in writing articles related to paleontology? Are you looking to attract new editors, or draw in experienced editors from other areas of Wikipedia?
- JL: Because we are a small but active and helpful community. Our Dinosaur collaboration, one of the very few active open collaborations in Wikipedia, makes high-level writing on important articles easier and more fun. Our collaboration is especially open to editors without prior experience in high-level writing. But we do not only write articles: several WikiProject Dinosaur participants are artists who do a great job illustrating the articles, and maintain an extensive and very active image review system. In fact, a number of later authors started with contributing images.
- FM: Anyone who is interested in palaeontology is welcome to try writing articles, and we would be more than willing to help. I find that the more people that work on articles simultaneously with me, the more motivation I get to write myself. I am also one of those editors who started out contributing dinosaur illustrations and making minor edits, and only began writing after some years. But when I got to it, it wasn't as intimidating as I had feared, and I've learned a lot in the process. For example anatomy; if you know dinosaur anatomy, you have a very good framework for understanding the anatomy of other tetrapod animals, including humans.
4) Enwebb: Between the two of you, you have over 300 GA reviews. FunkMonk, you have over 250 of those. What keeps you coming back to review more articles?
- FM: One of the main reasons I review GANs is to learn more about subjects that seem interesting (or which I would perhaps not come across otherwise). There are of course also more practical reasons, such as helping an article on its way towards FAC, to reduce the GAN backlog, and to "pay back" when I have a nomination up myself. It feels like a win-win situation where I can be entertained by interesting info, while also helping other editors get their nominations in shape, and we'll end up with an article that hopefully serves to educate a lot of people (the greater good).
- JL: Because I enjoy reading Wikipedia articles and like to learn new things. In addition, reviews give me the opportunity to have direct contact with the authors, and help them to make their articles even better. This is quite rewarding for me personally. But I also review because I consider our GA and FA system to be of fundamental importance for Wikipedia. When I started editing Wikipedia (the German version), the article promotion reviews motivated me and improved my writing skills a lot. Submitting an article for review requires one to get serious and take additional steps to bring the article to the best quality possible. GAs and FAs are also a good starting point for readers, and may motivate them to become authors themselves.
5) Enwebb: What are your editing preferences? Any scripts or gadgets you find invaluable?
- FM: One script that everyone should know about is the duplink highlight tool. It will show duplinks within the intro and body of a given article separately, and it seems a lot of people still don't know about it, though they are happy when introduced to it. I really liked the citationbot too (since citation consistency is a boring chore to me), but it seems to be blocked at the moment due to some technical issues.
- JL: I often review using the Wikipedia Beta app on my smartphone, as it allows me to read without needing to sit in front of the PC. For writing, I find the reference management software Zotero invaluable, as it generates citation templates automatically, saving a lot of time.
- Editor's note: I downloaded Zotero and tried it for the first time and think it is a very useful tool. More here.
6) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-wiki?
- FM: Perhaps that I have no background in natural history/science, but work with animation and games. But fascination with and knowledge of nature and animals is actually very helpful when designing and animating characters and creatures, so it isn't that far off, and I can actually use some of the things I learn while writing here for my work (when I wrote the Dromaeosauroides article, it was partially to learn more about the animal for a design-school project).
- JL: That I am actually doing research on dinosaurs. Though I avoid writing about topics I publish research on, my Wikipedia work helps me to keep a good general overview over the field, and quite regularly I can use what I learned while writing for Wikipedia for my research.
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June 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- June 2019—Issue 003
- Tree of Life
- Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Masked booby by Casliber and Aa77zz, reviewed by Jens Lallensack |
Masked booby by Casliber |
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Cats | 4.79
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Fisheries and fishing | 4.9
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Dogs | 4.91
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Viruses | 4.91
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ToL | 4.94
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Cetaceans | 4.97
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Primates | 4.98
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Sharks | 5.04
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All wikiprojects average | 5.05
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Dinosaurs | 5.12
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Equine | 5.15
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Bats | 5.25
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Mammals | 5.32
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Aquarium fishes | 5.35
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Hypericaceae | 5.38
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Turtles | 5.4
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Birds | 5.46
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Australian biota | 5.5
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Marine life | 5.54
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Animals | 5.56
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Paleontology | 5.57
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Rodents | 5.58
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Amphibians and Reptiles | 5.64
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Fungi | 5.65
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Bivalves | 5.66
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Plants | 5.67
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Algae | 5.68
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Arthropods | 5.69
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Hymenoptera | 5.72
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Microbiology | 5.72
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Cephalopods | 5.74
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Fishes | 5.76
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Ants | 5.79
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Gastropods | 5.8
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Spiders | 5.86
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Insects | 5.9
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Beetles | 5.98
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Lepidoptera | 5.98
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- Spineless editors overwhelmed by stubs
Within the Tree of Life and its many subprojects, there is an abundance of stubs. Welcome to Wikipedia, what's new, right? However, based on all wikiprojects listed (just over two thousand), the Tree of Life project is worse off in average article quality than most. Based on the concept of relative WikiWork (the average number of "steps" needed to have a project consisting of all featured articles (FAs), where stub status → FA consists of six steps), only seven projects within the ToL have an average rating of "start class" or better. Many projects, particularly those involving invertebrates, hover at an average article quality slightly better than a stub. With relative WikiWorks of 5.98 each, WikiProject Lepidoptera and WikiProject Beetles have the highest relative WikiWork of any project. Given that invertebrates are incredibly speciose, it may not surprise you that many articles about them are lower quality. WikiProject Beetles, for example, has over 20 times more articles than WikiProject Cats. Wikipedia will always be incomplete, so we should take our relatively low WikiWork as motivation to write more articles that are also better in quality.
- Editor Spotlight: Showing love to misfit taxa
We're joined for this month's Editor Spotlight by NessieVL, a long-time contributor who lists themselves as a member of WikiProject Fungus, WikiProject Algae, and WikiProject Cephalopods.
1) Enwebb: How did you come to edit articles about organisms and taxonomic groups?
- Nessie: The main force, then and now, driving me to create or edit articles is thinking "Why isn't there an article on that on Wikipedia?" Either I'll read about some rarely-sighted creature in the deep sea or find something new on iNaturalist and want to learn more. First stop (surprise!) is Wikipedia, and many times there is just a stub or no page at all. Sometimes I just add the source that got me to the article, not sometimes I go deep and try to get everything from the library or online journals and put it all in an article. The nice thing about taxa is the strong precedent that all accepted extant taxa are notable, so one does not need to really worry about doing a ton of research and having the page get removed. I was super worried about this as a new editor: I still really dislike conflict so if I can avoid it I do. Anyway, the most important part is stitching an article in to the rest of Wikipedia: Linking all the jargon, taxonomers, pollinators, etc., adding categories, and putting in the correct WikiProjects. Recently I have been doing more of the stitching-in stuff with extant articles. The last deep-dive article I made was Karuka at the end of last year, which is a bit of a break for me. I guess it's easier to do all the other stuff on my tablet while watching TV.
2) Enwebb: Many editors in the ToL are highly specialized on a group of taxa. A look at your recently created articles includes much diversity, though, with viruses, bacteria, algae, and cnidarians all represented—are there any commonalities for the articles you work on? Would you say you're particularly interested in certain groups?
- Nessie: I was a nerd from a time when that would get you beat up, so I like odd things and underdogs. I also avoid butting heads, so not only do I find siphonophores and seaweeds fascinating I don't have to worry about stepping on anyone's toes. I go down rabbitholes where I start writing an article like Mastocarpus papillatus because I found some growing on some rocks, then in my research I see it is parasitized by Pythium porphyrae, which has no article, and how can that be for an oomycete that oddly lives in the ocean and also attacks my tasty nori. So then I wrote that article and that got me blowing off the dust on other Oomycota articles, encouraged by the pull of propagating automatic taxoboxes. Once you've done the taxonomy template for the genus, well then you might as well do all the species now that the template is taken care of for them too. and so on until I get sucked in somewhere else. I think it's good to advocate for some of these 'oddball' taxa as it makes it easier for editors to expand their range from say plants to the pathogenic microorganisms of their favorite plant.
- My favorite clades though, It's hard to pick for a dilettante like me. I like working on virus taxonomy, but I can't think of a specific virus species that I am awed by. Maybe Tulip breaking virus for teaching us economics or Variola virus for having so many smallpox deities, one of which was popularly sung about by Desi Arnaz and then inspired the name of a cartoon character who was then misremembered and then turned into a nickname for Howard Stern's producer Gary Dell'Abate. Sorry, really had to share that chain, but for a species that's not a staple food it probably has the most deities. But anyway, for having the most species that wow me, I love a good fungus or algae, but that often is led by my stomach. Also why I seem to research so many plant articles. You can't eat siphonophores, at least I don't, but they are fascinating with their federalist colonies of zooids. Bats are all amazing, but the task force seems to have done so much I feel the oomycetes and slime moulds need more love. Same thing with dinosaurs (I'm team Therizinosaurus though). But honestly, every species has that one moment in the research where you just go, wow, that's so interesting. For instance, I loved discovering that the picture-winged fly (Delphinia picta) has a mating dance that involves blowing bubbles. Now I keep expecting them to show me when they land on my arm, but no such luck yet.
3) Enwebb: I noticed that many of your recent edits utilize the script Rater, which aids in quickly reassessing the quality and importance of an article. Why is it important to update talk page assessments of articles? I also noticed that the quality rating you assign often aligns with ORES, a script that uses machine-learning to predict article quality. Coincidence?
- Nessie: I initially started focusing on WikiProject talk page templates because they seem to be the key to data collecting and maintenance for articles, much more so than categories. This is where you note of an article needs an image, or audio, or a range map. It's how the cleanup listing bot sorts articles, and how Plantdrew does his automated taxobox usage stats. The latter inspired me to look for articles on organisms that are not assigned to any ToL WikiProjects which initially was in the thousands. I got it down to zero with just copypasta so you can imagine I was excited when I saw the rater tool. Back then I rated everything stub/low because it was faster: I couldn't check every article for the items on the B-class checklists. Plus each project has their own nuances to rating scales and I thought the editors in the individual projects would take it from there. I also thought all species were important, so how can I choose a favorite? Now it is much easier with the rater tool and the apparent consensus with Abductive's method of rating by the pageviews (0-9 views/day is low, 10-99 is med, 100-999 is high...). For the quality I generally go by the ORES rating, you caught me. It sometimes is thrown off by a long list of species or something, but it's generally good for stub to C: above that needs formal investigation and procedures I am still learning about. It seems that in the ToL projects we don't focus so much on getting articles to GA/FA so it's been harder to pick up. It was a little culture shock when I went on the Discord server and it seemed everyone was obsessed with getting articles up in quality. I think ToL is focusing on all the missing taxa and (re)organizing it all, which when you already have articles on every anime series or whatever you can focus on bulking the articles up more. In any event, on my growing to-do list is trying to get an article up to FA or GA and learn the process that way so I can better do the quality ratings and not just kick the can down the road.
4) Enwebb: What, if anything, can ToL and its subprojects do to better support collaboration and coordination among editors? How can we improve?
- Nessie: I mentioned earlier that the projects are the main way maintenance is done. And it is good that we have a bunch of subprojects that let those tasks get broken up into manageable pieces. Frankly I'm amazed anything gets done with WikiProject Plants with how huge its scope is. Yet this not only parcels out the work but the discussion as well. A few editors like Peter coxhead and Plantdrew keep an eye on many of the subprojects and spread the word, but it's still easy for newer editors to get a little lost. There should be balance between the lumping and splitting. The newsletter helps by crossing over all the WikiProjects, and if the discord channel picked up that would help too. Possibly the big Enwiki talk page changes will help as well.
5) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-Wikipedia?
- Nessie: I'm not sure anything would be surprising. I focus on nature offline too, foraging for mushrooms or wild plants and trying to avoid ticks and mosquitos. I have started going magnet fishing lately, more to help clean up the environment than in the hopes of finding anything valuable. But it would be fun to find a weapon and help solve a cold case or something.
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Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- July 2019—Issue 004
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List of felids by PresN |
Letter-winged kite by Casliber |
Two Tree of Life editors in WikiCup round of 16
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The WikiCup, an annual editing competition, is now in its fourth round. Casliber, consistent participant since 2010 and winner in 2016, is currently dominating Group A with 601 points. Largely responsible is the successful Featured Article nomination of Masked booby. The other remaining Tree of Life participant, Enwebb, is participating in her first ever WikiCup. In this round, she has a grand total of...5 points. But with the recent Featured Article nomination of Megabat, she stands to gain 600 points if successful. As it stands, though, it appears that at least one ToL editor is headed to the fifth and final round of 8 contestants, which begins September 1. Thus far, all participants in the WikiCup have generated 17 Featured Articles, 116 Good Articles, 16 Featured Lists, and 57 Featured Pictures. The Good Article Nominations backlog has been reduced as well, with 286 Good Article Reviews. |
Editor spotlight: Photographing the tree of life
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For this month's editor spotlight we're joined by Charlesjsharp, a longtime contributor to Wikimedia Commons with a plethora of featured pictures on English Wikipedia. 1) Starsandwhales: How long have you been editing Wikipedia, and how did you get interested? How did you begin your journey of photographing wildlife?
2) S&W: Over the years, you've taken photos of many different organisms from birds to insects to big cats; you have an extensive list of favorite images. Which animals have been the most exciting for you to photograph?
3) S&W: Many articles under ToL have requests for people to add images that can go unanswered. What can the community do to improve the coverage of different organisms on Wikipedia, especially when it comes to images?
4) S&W: What advice would you give to people new to photographing wildlife?
5) S&W: What would the Tree of Life community be surprised to learn about your life off-wiki?
* An example of cumbersome code: getting the layout of my responses to your questions. So dated, and no online spellchecker. |
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August 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- August 2019—Issue 005
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Letter-winged kite by Casliber |
Kosmoceratops by FunkMonk |
What's the relevance of WikiJournals to WP:TOL?
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Guest column by Thomas Shafee (Evolution and evolvability), Editor in Chief of WikiJournal of Science
Firstly, WikiJSci can be a complementary system for FA review (getting external review, input, and validity). When an Wikipedia article is nominated (via WP:JAN), journal editors go out to non-Wikipedian academics and researchers who have published on the subject on the last five years and invite them to give feedback comments (e.g. Peripatric speciation and Baryonyx). The resulting changes can then be integrated back into the Wikipedia article.
Getting more editors involved in Wikipedia is always a high priority. WikiJSci can also be a way to encourage new people to contribute articles (especially on missing/stub/start topics). An example of an article that was written from scratch by a group of non-Wikipedians is Teladorsagia circumcincta. This not only resulted in a new Wikipedia page on an underdeveloped topic, but introduced the idea of Wikimedia contribution to a group of people who had previously never considered it.
The journal can be a way to get multimedia content reviewed or encourage contribution. The same approach could be easily adapted to sounds (e.g. frog mating calls) or videos (e.g. starfish feet motion). It also allows for tracking of those images in new articles via Altmetric (this example has >200, which is bananas). There aren't any biology examples in WikiJSci yet, but the sister medical journal has published a few summary diagrams, photography, and image galleries. Examples include this gallery by Blausen Medical or the diagram of cell disassembly during apoptosis.
For those interested in other Wikimedia sister projects, there's also broad scope for interactions with the WikiJournals. Perhaps peer reviewed teaching resources could be useful to sit alongside sets of Wikipedia articles and be integrated into Wikiversity courses (like this or this)? Can sections of Wikidata & Wikispecies be peer reviewed? What are the potential avenues for integration with WikiCite, WikiFactMine, Scholia, etc.? Currently, WikiJSci is aiming to be very flexible and try out different formats so long as they can be externally peer reviewed. For more info, see the 2019-06-30 Signpost article and the current sister project proposal. |
Editor spotlight: Cwmhiraeth
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1) Enwebb: You're very prolific with DYKs, with over 2,000 nominations credited (in fact, I'll highlight which DYK nominations this month were yours below). What made you become so involved in this part of Wikipedia? Why should Tree of Life editors nominate articles for DYK?
2) Enwebb: I noticed that your DYK nominations reflect a diverse array of flora and fauna, from trees, marine invertebrates, birds, fishes, and mammals. How do you decide what to work on?
3) Enwebb: Which of your Wikipedia accomplishments are you most proud of?
4) Enwebb: What motivates you to keep contributing? What's your 10,000 ft view (pardon the non-SI) of the community and Tree of Life?
6) Enwebb: How did you first become interested in natural history?
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September 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- September 2019—Issue 006
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Kosmoceratops by FunkMonk |
Apororhynchus by Mattximus |
News at a Glance
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Welcoming WikiProject Diptera and Project Creation Trends
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This month saw a vanishingly rare occurrence for the Tree of Life: a new WikiProject joined the fold. WikiProject Diptera, however, is also unusual in being a classroom project. Whether or not this project will stay active once the semester ends remains to be seen. It does not bode well, however, that WP:WikiProject Vespidae—a creation from the same instructor at St. Louis University—faded to obscurity shortly after the fall semester concluded in 2014. WikiProject Vespidae is defunct and now redirects to the Hymenoptera task force of WikiProject Insects. Since 2014, the Tree of Life has seen a string of years where one or zero projects or task forces were created. The only projects and task forces created since then are WikiProject Animal anatomy (2014), Hymenoptera task force (2016), Bats task force (2017), WikiProject Hypericaceae (2018), and now WikiProject Diptera (2019). The year 2006 saw the greatest creation of WikiProjects and task forces, with fourteen still active and the remaining six as "semiactive", "inactive", or "defunct". |
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October 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- October 2019—Issue 007
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Meinhard Michael Moser by J Milburn |
King brown snake by Casliber |
News at a Glance
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Alphabet Soup: Explaining DYK, GA, FA, and More
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By request from another editor, this month I wrote an overview of ways that content is featured on Wikipedia. Below I have outlined some of the processes for getting content featured: Did You Know (DYK)[edit]What is it: A way for articles to appear on the main page of Wikipedia. A short hook in the format of "Did you know...that ___" presents unusual and interesting facts to the reader, hopefully making the reader want to click through to the article How it works: The DYK process has fairly low barriers for participation. The eligibility criteria are few and relatively easy to meet. Some important guidelines:
The process for creating the nomination is somewhat tedious. Instructions can be found here (official instructions) and here ("quick and nice" guide to DYK). Experience is the best teacher here, so don't be afraid to try and fail a few times. The last few DYK nominations I've done, however, have been with the help of SD0001's DYK-helper script, which makes the process a bit more streamlined (you create the template from a popup box on the article; created template is automatically transcluded to nominations page and article talk page) Once your nomination is created and transcluded, it will need to be reviewed. The reviewer will check that the article meets the eligibility criteria, that the hook is short enough, cited, and interesting, and that other requirements are met, such as for images. If you've been credited with more than 5 DYKs, the reviewer will also check that you've reviewed someone else's nomination for each article that you nominate. This is called QPQ (quid pro quo). You can check how many credited DYKs you've had here to see if QPQ is required for you to nominate an article for DYK. Good Article (GA)[edit]What it is: A peer review process to determine that an article meets a set of criteria. This adds a symbol to the top of the article. About 1 in 200 articles on Wikipedia is a GA. How it works: You follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Anyone can nominate an article—you don't have to be a major contributor, though it is considered polite to inform the major contributors that you are nominating the article. The article is added to a queue to await a review. In the ToL, it seems that reviews happen pretty quickly, thanks to our dedicated members. Once the review begins, the reviewer will offer suggestions to help the article meet the 6 GA criteria. Upon addressing all concerns, the reviewer will pass the article, and voilà! Good Article! Advice to a first-time nominator: Look at other Good Articles in related areas before nominating. If you're unsure about nominating, consider posting to the talk page of your project to see what other editors think. You can also have a more experienced editor co-nominate the article with you. Featured Article (FA)[edit]What it is: An exhaustive peer review to determine that an articles meets the criteria. This adds a to the top of the article. About 1 in 1,000 articles on Wikipedia is a FA. How it works: You follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Nominated articles are usually GAs already. Uninvolved editors can nominate, though the article's regular editors should be consulted first. Several editors will come by offering feedback, eventually supporting or opposing promotion to FA. A coordinator will determine if there is consensus to promote the article to FA. For an editor's first FA, spot checks to verify that the sources support the text are conducted. Advice to a first-time nominator: The Featured Article Candidate (FAC) process is a bit intimidating, but several steps can make your first one easier (speaking as someone who has exactly one). If you also did the GA nomination of the article, you can ask the reviewer for "extra" feedback beyond the GA criteria. You can also formally request a peer review and/or a copy edit from the Guild of Copy Editors to check for content and mechanics. First-time nominators are encouraged to seek the help of a mentor for a higher likelihood of passing their first FAC. Good and Featured Topics (GT and FT)[edit]What it is: It took me a while to realize we even had GT and FT on Wikipedia, as they are not very common relative to GA and FA. Both GT and FT are collections of related articles of high quality (all articles at GA or FA, all lists at Featured List). GT/FT have to be at least 3 articles with no obvious gaps in coverage of the topic, along with other criteria. For GT, all articles have to be GA quality and all lists must be FL. For FT, at least half the articles must be FA or FL, with the remaining articles at GA. How it works: Follow the nomination procedures for creating a new topic or adding an article to an existing topic. Other editors weigh in to support or oppose the proposal. Coordinators determine if there is consensus to promote to GT/FT. Advice to a first-time nominator: There are very few GT/FT in Tree of Life (5 GT and 11 FT). Most of the legwork appears to be improving a cohesive set of articles to GA/FA. |
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November 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- November 2019—Issue 008
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King brown snake by Casliber |
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Class is in Session in the Tree of Life |
In an interesting turn of events, this month's guest column is by my alter-ego, Elysia (Wiki Ed): *Puts on Wiki Education hat* Hi everyone, I'm Elysia and I work for Wiki Education. You may know me as Enwebb. I got a request last month to let you know how Wiki Education is intersecting with the Tree of Life subprojects. As one of Wiki Education's major goals is to improve topics related to the sciences, leading to our Communicating Science initiative, we end up supporting quite a few in the biological sciences. Here are the TOL-related courses active this term: What is the impact of student editors in Tree of Life? Altogether, these 16 courses have 347 student participants. As the end of the semester hasn't come yet, these numbers are still growing, but these students have:
Some of our best student work this semester (of any kind, not just biodiversity) has come from Agelaia's Behavioural Ecology course—you may remember this as the course that created WikiProject Diptera. The students have several Good Article nominations, including Dryomyza anilis, Anastrepha ludens, Aedes taeniorhynchus, Drosophila silvestris, Drosophila subobscura, and Ceratitis capitata. And while long-term participation from students is low, there's always the chance that we'll discover a Wikipedian. I had never edited before my Wikipedia assignment in 2017 and I'm still here nearly 20,000 edits later! After I poked around in the beginning of the semester, I had the realization that not many people write Wikipedia, and very few of those have a special interest in bats. If I didn't stick around to write the content, there was no guarantee that it would ever get done. Why are species articles suitable for students? Writing about taxonomic groups is a great fit for students, as it keeps them away from areas where new editors traditionally struggle. The notability policy is generous towards taxa, and there is little danger of a student's work getting removed for lack of notability; this is to be expected when students write biographies. Students may struggle with encyclopedic tone for biographies and stray towards promotional writing, but this is much less common when writing about a shrew or algae! Additionally, we're never going to run out of species to write about. Students have a bounty of stubs and redlinks to pick from. Creating a new article or expanding an existing one also takes a fairly predictable structure, with plenty of articles that students can model after. Don't students just create messes for volunteers to clean up? Our sincere hope is that, no, they don't, and we take several steps to try to minimize the burden on volunteer labor. With automatic plagiarism detection, alerts when students edit a Good or Featured Article, and notifications when students edit an article subject to discretionary sanctions, we try to stay ahead of problems as much as possible. We also review all student work at the end of each term. Ian, Shalor, and I are always happy to receive pings alerting us to student issues that need to be addressed. |
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Your GA nomination of Argentinosaurus
[edit]Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Argentinosaurus you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dunkleosteus77 -- Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 05:40, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
December 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- December 2019—Issue 009
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Apororhynchus by Mattximus |
Cactus wren by CaptainEek |
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Editor Spotlight: Plantdrew |
We're joined this month by long-time editor Plantdrew, who's currently engaged in streamlining the taxonomic structure of Wikipedia articles via the automated taxobox system. How did you become a Wikipedian? What are your particular interests (besides the obvious of "plants")?
What projects are keeping you busy around the 'pedia at present?
What's your favorite plant?
What's your background like? How did you come to have a special interest in biology?
What's something that would surprised TOL editors about your life off-wiki?
Anything else you'd like us to know?
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Your GA nomination of Argentinosaurus
[edit]The article Argentinosaurus you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Argentinosaurus for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dunkleosteus77 -- Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 22:21, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
January 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- January 2020—Issue 010
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Megarachne by Ichthyovenator |
Wolf by LittleJerry |
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The vital articles project on English Wikipedia began in 2004 when an editor transferred a list from Meta-Wiki: List of articles every Wikipedia should have. The first incarnation of the list became what is now level 3. As of 2019, there are 5 levels of vital articles:
Each level is inclusive of all previous levels, meaning that the 1,000 Level 3 articles include those listed on Levels 2 and 1. Below is an overview of the distribution of vital articles, and the quality of the articles. While the ultimate goal of the vital articles project is to have Featured-class articles, I also considered Good Articles to be "complete" for the purposes of this list. Animals (1,148 designated out of projected 2,400)
Plants, fungi, and other organisms (510 designated out of projected 1,200)
Many articles have yet to be designated for Tree of Life taxonomic groups, with 1,942 outstanding articles to be added. Anyone can add vital articles to the list! Restructuring may be necessary, as the only viruses included as of yet are under the category "Health". The majority of vital articles needing improvement are level 5, but here are some outstanding articles from the other levels:
· Abiogenesis · Death · Cell · Human evolution · Organism · Zoology · Cattle · Dog · Reptile · Flower · Nut · Seed · Algae · Eukaryote · Biodiversity · Extinction · Photosynthesis
· Sexual dimorphism · Feather · Fur · Hair · Gill · Plant anatomy · Plant morphology · Berry · Leaf · Root · Stoma · Shrub · Plant stem · Bark · Trunk · Epidermis · Ground tissue · Meristem · Vascular tissue · Vascular cambium · Hypha · Mycelium |
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February 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- February 2020—Issue 011
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Segnosaurus by FunkMonk |
Danuvius guggenmosi by Dunkleosteus77 |
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With the outbreak of a novel coronavirus dominating news coverage, Wikipedia content related to the virus has seen much higher interest. Tree of Life content of particular interest to readers has included viruses, bats, pangolins, and masked palm civets. Viruses saw the most dramatic growth in readership: Coronavirus, which was the 105th most popular virus article in December 2019 with about 400 views per day, averaged over a quarter million views each day of January 2020. Total monthly viewership of the top-10 virus articles ballooned from about 1.5 million to nearly 20 million.
From October 2019 – December 2019, the top ten most popular bat articles fluctuated among 16 different articles, with the December viewership of those 10 articles at 209,280. For January 2020, three articles broke into the top-10 that were not among the 16 articles of the prior three months: Bat as food, Horseshoe bat, and Bat-borne virus. Viewership of the top-10 bat articles spiked nearly 300% to 617,067 in January. While bats have been implicated as a possible natural reservoir of SARS-CoV-2, an intermediate host may be the bridge between bats and humans. Pangolins have been hypothesized as the intermediate host for the virus, causing a large spike in typical page views of 2-3k each day up to more than 60k in a day. Masked palm civets, the intermediate host of SARS, saw a modest yet noticeable spike in page views as well, from 100 to 300 views per day to as many as 5k views per day. With an increase in viewers came an increase in editors. In an interview, longtime virus editor Awkwafaba identified the influx of editors as the biggest challenge in editing content related to the coronavirus. They noted that these newcomers include "novices who make honest mistakes and get tossed about a bit in the mad activity" as well as "experienced editors who know nothing about viruses and are good researchers, yet aren't familiar with the policies of WP:ToL or WP:Viruses." Disruption also increased, with extended confirmed protection (also known as the 30/500 rule, which prevents editors with fewer than 30 days tenure and 500 edits from making edits and is typically used on a very small subset of Wikipedia articles) temporarily applied to Coronavirus and still active on Template:2019–20 coronavirus outbreak data. New editors apparently seeking to correct misinformation continuously edited the article Bat as food to remove content related to China: Videos of Chinese people eating bat soup were misrepresented to be current or filmed in China, when at least one such video was several years old and filmed in Palau. However, reliable sources confirm that bats are eaten in China, especially Southern China, so these well-meaning edits were mostly removed. Another level of complexity was added by the fluctuating terminology of the virus. Over a dozen moves and merges were requested within WikiProject Viruses. To give you an idea of the musical chairs happening with article titles, here are the move histories of two articles: Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2
Awkwafaba noted that "the main authorities, WHO and ICTV, don't really have a process for speedily naming a virus or disease." Additionally, they have different criteria for naming. They said, "I remember in a move discussion from the article then called Wuhan coronavirus that a virus name cannot have a geographical location in it, but this is a WHO disease naming guideline, and not an ICTV virus naming rule. ICTV may have renamed Four Corners virus to Sin Nombre orthohantavirus but there are still plenty of official virus species names that don't abide by WHO guidelines." |
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Congrats to your first FA, finally! We can be proud of it. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 15:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Wow! Thanks so much for working on it with me and all the help you provided! I've learned a lot about the article writing and review process! And it's great to have a featured article for such an important sauropod as well! --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 15:38, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
March 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- March 2020—Issue 012
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Argentinosaurus by Slate Weasel and Jens Lallensack |
Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations by Britishfinance |
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A new WikiProject responding to the pandemic | ||
The newest Tree of Life WikiProject is about a taxon that is dominating the headlines, Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, and its many effects. We interviewed Another Believer, the founder of WikiProject COVID-19. This interview has been edited for length. Find the full interview here.
Number of participants of WikiProject Covid-19
Thank you to Another Believer for your time, both in this interview and in this project. Interested readers can join WikiProject COVID-19. And please stay safe and healthy out there. --Awkwafaba |
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April 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- April 2020—Issue 013
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Danuvius guggenmosi by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by J Milburn |
Lythronax by FunkMonk, Lythronaxargestes and IJReid |
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Inspired by a March 2020 post at WikiProject Medicine detailing the growth of Featured Articles over time, we decided to reproduce that table here, adding a second table showing the growth of Good Articles. Tree of Life articles are placed in the "Biology" category for FAs, which has seen a growth of 381% since 2008. Only two other subjects had a greater growth than Biology: Business, economics, and finance; and Warfare. Percentage Growth in FA Categories, 2008–2019, Legend: Considerably above average, Above average, Average Below average , Considerably below average, Poor
*subset of natural sciences Unsurprisingly, the number of GAs has increased more rapidly than the number of FAs. Organisms, which is a subcategory of Natural sciences, has seen a GA growth of 755% since 2008, besting the Natural sciences overall growth of 530%. While Warfare had far and away the most significant growth of GAs, it's a clear outlier relative to other categories. |
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May 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- May 2020—Issue 014
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This month we're joined by Jts1882, who is active in depicting evolutionary relationship of taxa via cladograms. Part of this includes responding to cladogram requests, where interested editors can have cladograms made without using the templates themselves. How did you come to be interested in systematics? Are you interested in systematics broadly, or is there a particular group you're most fond of? As long as I can remember I’ve been interested in nature, starting with the animals and plants in the garden, school grounds, and local wood, and then more general wildlife worldwide. An interest in how things are classified grew from this. I like things to be organised and understanding the relationships between things and systems (not just living things) is a big part of that. Biology was always my favourite subject in school and took up a disproportionate part of my time. My interest in systematics is broad as I’d like to comprehend the whole tree of life, but the cat family is my favourite group. What's the background behind cladogram requests? I see that it isn't a very old part of the Tree of Life Well I can’t take any credit for the cladogram requests page, although I help out there sometimes. It was created by IJReid and there are several people who have helped there more than me. I think the motivation is that creating cladograms requires a knowledge of the templates that is daunting for many editors. It was one way of helping people who want to focus on content creation. My main contribution to the cladograms is converting the {{clade}} template to use a Lua module. The template code was extremely difficult to follow and had to be repetitive (I can only admire the efforts of those who got the thing to work in the first place). The conversion to Lua made it more efficient, allowed larger and deeper cladograms, plus facilitating the introduction of new features. The cladogram request page was recently the venue for discussion on making time calibrated cladograms, which is now possible, if not particularly user friendly. What advice do you have for an editor who wants to learn how to make cladograms? The same advice I would give to someone facing any computer problem, just try it out. Start by taking existing code for a cladogram and make changes yourself. The main advice would be to format it properly so indents match the brackets vertically. Of course, not everyone wants to learn and if someone prefers to focus on article content there is the cladogram request page. Examples of cladograms Jts1882 has created, showing different proposed clades for Neoaves
Do you have any personal projects or goals you're working towards on Wikipedia? As I said I like organisation and systems. So I find efforts like the automated taxobox system and {{taxonbar}} appealing. I would like to see more reuse of the major phylogenetic trees on Wikipedia with more use of consensus trees on the higher taxa. Too often they get edited based on one recent report and/or without proper citation. Animals and bilateria are examples where this is a problem. Towards this I have been working on a system of phylogeny templates that can be reused flexibly. The {{Clade transclude}} template allows selective transclusion, so the phylogenetic trees on one page can be reused with modifications, i.e. can be pruned and grafted, used with or without images, with or without collapsible elements, etc. I have an example for the Angiosperm Phylogeny Group classification (see {{Phylogeny/APG IV}}) and one for squamates that also includes collapsible elements (see {{Phylogeny/Squamata}}). A second project is to have a modular reference system for taxonomic resources. I have made some progress along this lines with the {{BioRef}} template. This started off simply as a way of hardlinking to Catalog of Fishes pages and I’ve gradually expanded it to cover other groups (e..g. FishBase, AmphibiaWeb and Amphibian Species of the World, Reptile Database, the Mammalian Diversity Database). The modular nature is still rudimentary and needs a rewrite before it is ready for wider use. What would surprise your fellow editors to learn about your life off-Wikipedia? I don’t think there is anything particularly surprising or interesting about my life. I’ve had an academic career as a research scientist but I don't think anyone could guess the area from my Wikipedia edits. I prefer to work on areas where I am learning at the same time. This why I spend more time with neglected topics (e.g. mosses at the moment). I start reading and then find that I’m not getting the information I want. Anything else you'd like us to know? My interest in the classification of things goes beyond biology. I am fascinated by mediaeval attempts to classify knowledge, such as Bacon in his The Advancement of Learning and Diderot and d’Alembert in their Encyclopédie. They were trying to come up with a universal scheme of knowledge just as the printing press was allowing greater dissemination of knowledge. With the internet we are seeing a new revolution in knowledge dissemination. Just look at how we could read research papers on the COVID virus within weeks of its discovery. With an open internet, everyone has access, not just those with the luxury of books at home or good libraries. Sites like the Biodiversity Heritage Library allow you to read old scientific works without having to visit dusty university library stack rooms, while the taxonomic and checklist databases provide instant information on millions of living species. In principle, the whole world can now find out about anything, even if Douglas Adams warned we might be disinclined to do so. This is why I like Wikipedia, with all its warts, it’s a means of organising the knowledge on the internet. In just two decades it’s become a first stop for knowledge and hopefully a gateway to more specialised sources. Perhaps developing this latter aspect, beyond providing good sources for what we say, is the next challenge for Wikipedia. |
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Skeletals from Paul (2010)
[edit]Hello. I've seen your comment on WikiProject Dinosaurs' image review page about Gregory S. Paul having a Saichania skeletal in the 2010 edition of his Field Guide to Dinosaurs but not in the 2016 edition. This leads me to believe you have copies of both editions. Now, I only have a copy of the 2016 edition, so can you tell me which taxa are illustrated in the 2010 edition but not the 2016 one? Also, if you could, can you send me the skeletals that are not in the 2016 edition? Thanks in advance. Atlantis536 (talk) 14:42, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Besides Saichania, the only other skeletals are those of Indosuchus and "Mamenchisaurus" sinocanadorum, both of which are highly problematic. The Indosuchus combines remains from several Indian abelisaurs of different size into a strange chimaera. I'm not fully sure about the accuracy of the Saichania, as I realize that it may be somewhat "tainted" by Tianzhenosaurus. I'm still waiting to see if the skeletal's deemed accurate on the DINOART page, so I think it's best to wait until people with more ankylosaur experience than me comment on it. --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 19:31, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- I see. Thanks! Atlantis536 (talk) 00:24, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
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June/July 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
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Your Ruyangosaurus Scaling
[edit]Hi State Weasel,
Just a quick question. The article Ruyangosaurus claims that R. giganteous is 50+tonnes, yet, in your scaling, it has an unreasonably small body. Am I wrong to say Ruyangosauurus' body was larger?PNSMurthy (talk) 09:08, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- The scale in question is to the left. PNSMurthy (talk) 09:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- I think that the torso is a composite, so its proportions aren't too certain, and to reliably know the torso's shape we'd need complete dorsal ribs, which I think we are lacking. I think that the torso of Ruyangosaurus could have been rather broad (although the dorsal vertebrae aren't very complete, and I don't know an awful lot about this taxon, unfortunately), though, so that might help it achieve greater masses. --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 12:35, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Okay then. It is a very incomplete specimen...PNSMurthy (talk) 00:56, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- What do you use to make your comparison?PNSMurthy (talk) 09:40, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- As always, the reference(s) I based the silhouette and size on are listed in the file description. --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 11:52, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ah yes, randomdinos. I remember seeing that piece of his work. I meant; what application you use.PNSMurthy (talk) 23:32, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, I use a program called Inkscape. It's free open-source software and really useful. --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 00:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ah yes, thanks.PNSMurthy (talk) 02:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Tell me, what is Ruyangosaurus' length? Isn't it around 35 metres? As far as I have seen, that is the size articles state. Your scaling of it seems to be quite short? Am I wrong?PNSMurthy (talk) 07:53, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- It's about 30 m (98 ft), matching Paul's estimate, which is also stated in the article. --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 12:09, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- Tell me, what is Ruyangosaurus' length? Isn't it around 35 metres? As far as I have seen, that is the size articles state. Your scaling of it seems to be quite short? Am I wrong?PNSMurthy (talk) 07:53, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ah yes, thanks.PNSMurthy (talk) 02:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, I use a program called Inkscape. It's free open-source software and really useful. --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 00:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ah yes, randomdinos. I remember seeing that piece of his work. I meant; what application you use.PNSMurthy (talk) 23:32, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- As always, the reference(s) I based the silhouette and size on are listed in the file description. --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 11:52, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- What do you use to make your comparison?PNSMurthy (talk) 09:40, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Okay then. It is a very incomplete specimen...PNSMurthy (talk) 00:56, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- I think that the torso is a composite, so its proportions aren't too certain, and to reliably know the torso's shape we'd need complete dorsal ribs, which I think we are lacking. I think that the torso of Ruyangosaurus could have been rather broad (although the dorsal vertebrae aren't very complete, and I don't know an awful lot about this taxon, unfortunately), though, so that might help it achieve greater masses. --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 12:35, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
August 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- September 2021—Issue 016
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Hoax taxon sniffed out after nearly fifteen years |
Cross posted from the Signpost On August 7, WikiProject Palaeontology member Rextron discovered a suspicious taxon article, Mustelodon, which was created in November 2005. The article lacked references and the subsequent discussion on WikiProject Palaeontology found that the alleged type locality (where the fossil was first discovered) of Lago Nandarajo "near the northern border of Panama" was nonexistent. In fact, Panama does not even really have a northern border, as it is bounded along the north by the Caribbean Sea. No other publications or databases mentioned Mustelodon, save a fleeting mention in a 2019 book that presumably followed Wikipedia, Felines of the World. The article also appeared in four other languages, Catalan, Spanish, Dutch, and Serbian. In Serbian Wikipedia, a note at the bottom of the page warned: "It is important to note here that there is no data on this genus in the official scientific literature, and all attached data on the genus Mustelodon on this page are taken from the English Wikipedia and are the only known data on this genus of mammals, so the validity of this genus is questionable." Editors took action to alert our counterparts on other projects, and these versions were removed also. As the editor who reached out to Spanish and Catalan Wikipedia, it was somewhat challenging to navigate these mostly foreign languages (I have a limited grasp of Spanish). I doubted that the article had very many watchers, so I knew I had to find some WikiProjects where I could post a machine translation advising of the hoax, and asking that users follow local protocols to remove the article. I was surprised to find, however, that Catalan Wikipedia does not tag articles for WikiProjects on talk pages, meaning I had to fumble around to find what I needed (turns out that WikiProjects are Viquiprojectes in Catalan!) Mustelodon remains on Wikidata, where its "instance of" property was swapped from "taxon" to "fictional taxon". How did this article have such a long lifespan? Early intervention is critical for removing hoaxes. A 2016 report found that a hoax article that survives its first day has an 18% chance of lasting a year.[1] Additionally, hoax articles tend to have longer lifespans if they are in inconspicuous parts of Wikipedia, where they do not receive many views. Mustelodon was only viewed a couple times a day, on average. Mustelodon survived a brush with death three years into its lifespan. The article was proposed for deletion in September 2008, with a deletion rationale of "No references given; cannot find any evidence in peer-reviewed journals that this alleged genus actually exists". Unfortunately, the proposed deletion was contested and the template removed, though the declining editor did not give a rationale. Upon its rediscovery in August 2020, Mustelodon was tagged for speedy deletion under CSD G3 as a "blatant hoax". This was challenged, and an Articles for Deletion discussion followed. On 12 August, the AfD was closed as a SNOW delete. WikiProject Palaeontology members ensured that any trace of it was scrubbed from legitimate articles. The fictional mammal was finally, truly extinct. At the ripe old age of 14 years, 9 months, this is the longest-lived documented hoax on Wikipedia, topping the previous documented record of 14 years, 5 months, set by The Gates of Saturn, a fictitious television show, which was incidentally also discovered in August 2020. How do we discover other hoax taxa? Could we use Wikidata to discover taxa are not linked to databases like ITIS, Fossilworks, and others?
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This month's spotlight is with Mattximus, author of two Featured Articles and 29 Featured Lists at current count.
I think I have a compulsion to make lists, it doesn't show up in my real life, but online I secretly get a lot of satisfaction making orderly lists and tables. It's a bit of a secret of mine, because it doesn't manifest in any other part of my life. My background is in biology, so this was a natural (haha) fit.
This experiment was just to see if I could get any random article to FA status, so I picked the very first alphabetical animal species according to the taxonomy and made that attempt. Technically, there isn't enough information for a species page so I just merged the species into a genus and went from there. It was a fun exercise, but doing it alone is not the most fun so it's probably on pause for the foreseeable future. Note: Aporhynchus is the first alphabetical taxon as follows: Animalia, Acanthocephala, Archiacanthocephala, Apororhynchida, Apororhynchidae, Apororhynchus
I would recommend getting a good article nominated, then a featured list up before tackling the FA. Lists are a bit more forgiving but give you a taste of what standards to expect from FA. The most time consuming thing is proper citations so make sure that is in order before starting either.
My personality in real life does not match my wikipedia persona. I'm not a very organized, or orderly in real life, but the wikipedia pages I brought to FL or FA are all very organized. Maybe it's my outlet for a more free-flowing life as a scientist/teacher.
The fact that wikipedia exists free of profit motive and free for everyone really is something special and I encourage everyone to donate a few dollars to the cause. |
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August 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
[edit]- September 2021—Issue 016
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Horseshoe bat by Enwebb |
Black-and-red broadbill by AryKun |
Hoax taxon sniffed out after nearly fifteen years |
Cross posted from the Signpost On August 7, WikiProject Palaeontology member Rextron discovered a suspicious taxon article, Mustelodon, which was created in November 2005. The article lacked references and the subsequent discussion on WikiProject Palaeontology found that the alleged type locality (where the fossil was first discovered) of Lago Nandarajo "near the northern border of Panama" was nonexistent. In fact, Panama does not even really have a northern border, as it is bounded along the north by the Caribbean Sea. No other publications or databases mentioned Mustelodon, save a fleeting mention in a 2019 book that presumably followed Wikipedia, Felines of the World. The article also appeared in four other languages, Catalan, Spanish, Dutch, and Serbian. In Serbian Wikipedia, a note at the bottom of the page warned: "It is important to note here that there is no data on this genus in the official scientific literature, and all attached data on the genus Mustelodon on this page are taken from the English Wikipedia and are the only known data on this genus of mammals, so the validity of this genus is questionable." Editors took action to alert our counterparts on other projects, and these versions were removed also. As the editor who reached out to Spanish and Catalan Wikipedia, it was somewhat challenging to navigate these mostly foreign languages (I have a limited grasp of Spanish). I doubted that the article had very many watchers, so I knew I had to find some WikiProjects where I could post a machine translation advising of the hoax, and asking that users follow local protocols to remove the article. I was surprised to find, however, that Catalan Wikipedia does not tag articles for WikiProjects on talk pages, meaning I had to fumble around to find what I needed (turns out that WikiProjects are Viquiprojectes in Catalan!) Mustelodon remains on Wikidata, where its "instance of" property was swapped from "taxon" to "fictional taxon". How did this article have such a long lifespan? Early intervention is critical for removing hoaxes. A 2016 report found that a hoax article that survives its first day has an 18% chance of lasting a year.[1] Additionally, hoax articles tend to have longer lifespans if they are in inconspicuous parts of Wikipedia, where they do not receive many views. Mustelodon was only viewed a couple times a day, on average. Mustelodon survived a brush with death three years into its lifespan. The article was proposed for deletion in September 2008, with a deletion rationale of "No references given; cannot find any evidence in peer-reviewed journals that this alleged genus actually exists". Unfortunately, the proposed deletion was contested and the template removed, though the declining editor did not give a rationale. Upon its rediscovery in August 2020, Mustelodon was tagged for speedy deletion under CSD G3 as a "blatant hoax". This was challenged, and an Articles for Deletion discussion followed. On 12 August, the AfD was closed as a SNOW delete. WikiProject Palaeontology members ensured that any trace of it was scrubbed from legitimate articles. The fictional mammal was finally, truly extinct. At the ripe old age of 14 years, 9 months, this is the longest-lived documented hoax on Wikipedia, topping the previous documented record of 14 years, 5 months, set by The Gates of Saturn, a fictitious television show, which was incidentally also discovered in August 2020. How do we discover other hoax taxa? Could we use Wikidata to discover taxa are not linked to databases like ITIS, Fossilworks, and others?
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Spotlight with Mattximus |
This month's spotlight is with Mattximus, author of two Featured Articles and 29 Featured Lists at current count.
I think I have a compulsion to make lists, it doesn't show up in my real life, but online I secretly get a lot of satisfaction making orderly lists and tables. It's a bit of a secret of mine, because it doesn't manifest in any other part of my life. My background is in biology, so this was a natural (haha) fit.
This experiment was just to see if I could get any random article to FA status, so I picked the very first alphabetical animal species according to the taxonomy and made that attempt. Technically, there isn't enough information for a species page so I just merged the species into a genus and went from there. It was a fun exercise, but doing it alone is not the most fun so it's probably on pause for the foreseeable future. Note: Aporhynchus is the first alphabetical taxon as follows: Animalia, Acanthocephala, Archiacanthocephala, Apororhynchida, Apororhynchidae, Apororhynchus
I would recommend getting a good article nominated, then a featured list up before tackling the FA. Lists are a bit more forgiving but give you a taste of what standards to expect from FA. The most time consuming thing is proper citations so make sure that is in order before starting either.
My personality in real life does not match my wikipedia persona. I'm not a very organized, or orderly in real life, but the wikipedia pages I brought to FL or FA are all very organized. Maybe it's my outlet for a more free-flowing life as a scientist/teacher.
The fact that wikipedia exists free of profit motive and free for everyone really is something special and I encourage everyone to donate a few dollars to the cause. |
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Saichania size comparison
[edit]Hi Slate Weasel. I wanted to discuss your size comparison for Saichania: I think the smaller specimen (Institute of Geology, Mongolian Academy of Sciences 100/1305) in your picture is the same as the Mongolian Paleontological Center 100/1305 specimen? If so, you should know that it most likely represent Pinacosaurus (see Arbour V.M. & Currie P.J. (2013). "The taxonomic identity of a nearly complete ankylosaurid dinosaur skeleton from the Gobi Desert of Mongolia". Cretaceous Research '46: p. 24-30: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cretres.2013.08.008). (Conty~enwiki) 13:56, 8 March 2021 (UTC))
- You definitely seem to be right about this, the reassignment has been accepted elsewhere (i.e. [4]). (Good thing I put Pinacosaurus in the Ankylosauria size comparison I recently uploaded instead of this!) Fortunately, Pinacosaurus and Saichania are pretty closely related, but I'm not sure if the juvenile skeleton's really the best basis for restoring the adult. I'll have to think a bit about what to do about this size comparison. Thanks for bringing this reassignment to my notice! --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 00:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Argentinosaurus scheduled for TFA
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By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this award in recognition of the thorough, detailed and actionable review you carried out on the FAC of Bajadasaurus. This work is very much appreciated. Hopefully the first of many. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:26, 31 March 2021 (UTC) |
- Wow! Thanks! I really should try to do FAC reviewing more often, it's usually quite interesting. --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 22:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- You seem to be good at it, so yes, you should. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:34, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you for quality articles about dinosaurs such as Argentinosaurus, Acamptonectes and Puertasaurus, for Tatenectes, performed in collaboration, with special attention to the graphic part like Nemegtosaurus size, used in many articles, for quality reviewing, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
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- Thank you very much! (I do feel obligated to note that Acamptonectes and Tatenectes aren't dinosaurs, though. Nonetheless, I still greatly appreciate this!) --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 21:43, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- If it's OK I'd like to use this section to thank you for all your size comparison charts. Very useful! Ericoides (talk) 07:56, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm glad you find them useful! --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 16:02, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you and the team today for Acamptonectes, introduced: "This article is the first "official" WP:WikiProject Palaeontology collaboration, and the first FAC about an ichthyosaur, a group of prehistoric marine reptiles which were convergently similar to dolphins. Having been named relatively recently, not much has been published on it (not even a size estimate), so most info available about it is summarised here."! - Modest DYK contribution on the same page Protestant Church, Borgholzhausen, a place of memories - more on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:19, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm glad you find them useful! --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 16:02, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- If it's OK I'd like to use this section to thank you for all your size comparison charts. Very useful! Ericoides (talk) 07:56, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
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- On a related note, I kept confusing this with the simultaneous Mosasaurus FAC, because I peer reviewed both, and later GA reviewed Mosasaurus, but for some reaoson I thought I had also GA reviewed Peloneustes, which is why I didn't support it at FAC. But that's just another testament to the quality of the article, since you didn't even need my support for it to to fly (swim?) through! FunkMonk (talk) 00:54, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! I think that its quality is definitely at least somewhat related to all the reviews it went through. It is kind of funny that the two "major groups" of marine reptiles yet to receive FAs, pliosauroids and mosasaurids, both got their first FAC at around the same time. My next planned project is Liopleurodon, which is kind of like Peloneustes, except that it's basically slightly to much more complex in every possible way. Also, "for it to to fly (swim?) through!" - Well, plesiosaurs sort of did both :) --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 13:39, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Yep, their similarity definitely contributed to my confusion, and I'm annoyed I didn't get to give my formal support before it was promoted! But I hope I can give it to your next one, going to be tricky, but in some ways Liopleurodon is similar to Mosasaurus, with the confusing 19th century history, size issues, and many species, so you can probably use it as template. FunkMonk (talk) 18:18, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! I think that its quality is definitely at least somewhat related to all the reviews it went through. It is kind of funny that the two "major groups" of marine reptiles yet to receive FAs, pliosauroids and mosasaurids, both got their first FAC at around the same time. My next planned project is Liopleurodon, which is kind of like Peloneustes, except that it's basically slightly to much more complex in every possible way. Also, "for it to to fly (swim?) through!" - Well, plesiosaurs sort of did both :) --Slate Weasel ⟨T - C - S⟩ 13:39, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
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Cryopterygius, Keilhauia, Janusaurus and Palvennia: To merge or not to merge?
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All the 2020 paper of Ophthalmosaurid new species supported the other paper of regarding Palvennia, Keilhauia and Janusaurus within Arthropterygius, and Cryopterygius synonymous. But conversely all the 2021 papers of new Ophthalmosaurid species classify the four taxa distinct, or most likely not belong to the genus, and also the 2019 paper of Arthropterygius thalassonotus. Huinculsaurus (talk) 11:04, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I do know about that paper (I even cited it in the merge proposal). The "expanded" Arthropterygius concept indeed seems to not have gained much traction, nor has the synonymy of Cryopterygius. While I don't think that support for their validity is unanimous, I definitely think that my proposed merger of Cryopterygius was premature and I no longer support it. It's retained as a valid genus in Cortés et al. (2021) (the description paper for Kyhytysuka, which does cite Zverkov & Efimov (2019), so the authors couldn't have not known about the proposed synonymy), and so far, besides Zverkov and Efimov's original study, I haven't seen anyone successfully reproduce their result of Cryopterygius nesting within Undorosaurus. --Slate Weasel [Talk - Contribs] 14:43, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi! I have a kind of random question: How do you decide what color you make the taxa in your size charts? Do you have any particular methods, or is it just whatever you feel like? -SlvrHwk (talk) 18:08, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Generally there was no method unless one was specifically requested by reviewers; I generally just chose what "felt right" to me for a particular taxon. --Slate Weasel [Talk - Contribs] 23:12, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
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Bajadasaurus reconstruction
[edit]Hi. Could you please add to your reconstruction of Bajadasaurus for the neural spines of the dermal sail? According to a recent study by Cedra and associates (2022) like Amargasaurus it could have just that. Aventadoros (talk) 07:43, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- I definitely could, though as this image also has potential to serve as "historical" reconstruction I'm first going to bring it up at WP:DINOART. Thanks for bringing this to my attention! --Slate Weasel [Talk - Contribs] 20:08, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
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- Cool, good to know. I believe it's currently at 1007 characters, so I think that should be okay. --Slate Weasel [Talk - Contribs] 21:45, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- I'll have a look tomorrow. The blurb length limit is 1025 characters including spaces, but it's your article, so you can amend as you see fit within that constraint. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 21:39, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Looks good to me Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:00, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
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Collaboration about Cymbospondylus ?
[edit]Good morning or evening Slate Weasel. First, I would like to thank you already (even if I think I have already done so), for your reconstruction that you did for Eremiasaurus. Currently, I am working on a draft (which is being translated from a French version) on the imposing basal ichthyosaur Cymbospondylus. As ichthyosaurs are your favorite area of Wikipedia (and on which you have also developed two articles on large ichthyosaurs from the Triassic), I said to myself that as I have access to all articles (if this is not the majority), we could expand the article so that it obtains FA status. I am very curious about your response, best regards, Amirani1746 (talk) 20:33, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Greetings! Unfortunately, I do not think I will have time to actively contribute to this project in the immediate future. However, I would be willing to do copyediting and/or possibly peer review if time permits, if either of those interest you. I know that Armin Reindl did much of the current expansion to bring the article out of stub-class and into its current state; pinging him to see if he might have any interest/input (I know that he's been working on quite a few other projects as of late though). Regardless, it looks like you're making good progress, and I look forward to seeing the project develop! --Slate Weasel [Talk - Contribs] 16:53, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know, always appreciate getting a heads up on this kind of thing. Though I have a few projects running at the moment (granted none I made any process on as of late) I am happy to contribute and collab to the best of my abilities. I should clarify that my initial work on the taxon was highly motivated by and actually in turn collaborated with a friend of mine who was himself working with Cymbospondylus and, through his work managed to get some feedback on my version of the article by Martin Sander. So with that in mind this could very well be an additional resource for the research process later down the line. In summary, tho my activity will vary I'll happily stay in touch and help out where needed on buffing the page up even further. Armin Reindl (talk) 19:09, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Well, thank you both for your response Slate Weasel and Armin Reindl ! I hope we will have time together to expand the article about this impressive giant ichthyosaur (with me also working about Thalattoarchon fo waiting). Amirani1746 (talk) 20:17, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hello again Slate Weasel, as you may have noticed lately, I have considerably expanded the article about Cymbospondylus. I will try to expand its paleobiological sections as much as possible, but as I am not thoroughly versed in the phylogeny of the Ichthyosauria and the skeletal anatomy of ichthyosaurs, I think you can go easy on it, as all source concerned about are free. Amirani1746 (talk) 16:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, sorry for the late response, unfortunately, I've been rather busy lately and that's unlikely to change in the near future, so unfortunately don't think that I can commit to a collaboration. --Slate Weasel [Talk - Contribs] 17:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello again Slate Weasel, as you may have noticed lately, I have considerably expanded the article about Cymbospondylus. I will try to expand its paleobiological sections as much as possible, but as I am not thoroughly versed in the phylogeny of the Ichthyosauria and the skeletal anatomy of ichthyosaurs, I think you can go easy on it, as all source concerned about are free. Amirani1746 (talk) 16:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, thank you both for your response Slate Weasel and Armin Reindl ! I hope we will have time together to expand the article about this impressive giant ichthyosaur (with me also working about Thalattoarchon fo waiting). Amirani1746 (talk) 20:17, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know, always appreciate getting a heads up on this kind of thing. Though I have a few projects running at the moment (granted none I made any process on as of late) I am happy to contribute and collab to the best of my abilities. I should clarify that my initial work on the taxon was highly motivated by and actually in turn collaborated with a friend of mine who was himself working with Cymbospondylus and, through his work managed to get some feedback on my version of the article by Martin Sander. So with that in mind this could very well be an additional resource for the research process later down the line. In summary, tho my activity will vary I'll happily stay in touch and help out where needed on buffing the page up even further. Armin Reindl (talk) 19:09, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
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More size charts?
[edit]Will You do size charts for Camposaurus, Anaschisma, Paranauchenia, Devincenzia pozzi, Eleutherocercus and Mourasuchus arendsi? 174.130.231.65 (talk) 02:47, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, unfortunately I am already working on updates to older size charts and am afraid that I will not have the time to make any of these, my apologies (I am also just not good at drawing mammals for some reason). We do have a few editors actively producing new size charts though, you could try to put in a request for these size charts at WP:PALEOART. Hope this helps. --Slate Weasel [Talk - Contribs] 15:48, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Besanosaurus
[edit]Hello again Slate Weasel, it seems that this new paper that you have waited is now here, here's the link : [5].Amirani1746 (talk) 08:50, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
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