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[edit]- Miss You (film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is about an unreleased film which does not satisfy film notability. Unreleased films are only notable if production itself has received significant coverage by reliable sources. A review of the sources shows that they are all announcements or press releases about the film or its songs. The first five references, in four different media, are essentially identical, which is best explained that they are the same press releases to different media.
Reference Number | Reference | Comments | Independent | Significant | Reliable | Secondary |
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1 | The Hindu | States that movie will be filmed. | No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release. | Not for this purpose | Yes | Yes |
2 | cinemaexpress.com | States that movie will be filmed. | No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release. | Not for this purpose | Yes | Yes |
3 | thesouthfirst.com | States that movie will be filmed. | No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release. | Not for this purpose | Yes | Yes |
4 | www.business-standard.com | States that movie will be filmed. | No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release. | Not for this purpose | Yes | Yes |
5 | The Hindu | Same as 1 | No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release. | Not for this purpose | Yes | Yes |
6 | timesnownews.com | States that movie will be filmed. | Probably. | Not for this purpose | Yes | Yes |
7 | Times of India | Passing mention of a song. | Maybe | No. Passing mention. | No | Yes |
8 | cinemaexpress.com | Press release about a song. | No. | No | Yes | Yes |
9 | cinemaexpress.com | Another press release about a song. | No. | No | Yes | Yes |
10 | news18.com | An announcement about the film. | Probably. | Not for this purpose. | Yes | Yes |
There is also a draft; the draft and the article are by different authors. The information in this article and in the draft can be merged in the draft, and the draft can be submitted, with reviews and other quality sources, when the film has been released and reviewed. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Because release is announced for late November, I would normally have suggested to keep this and I would have merged the draft into it .....but there are TWO drafts Draft:Miss You Movie (created yesterday, just before the article, same creator) and Draft:Miss You (film) by User:Gowthamaprabu (created 21. 10); the latter was declined by the nom. Read the following comment: "Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Miss You (film) instead.", said the nom of the present AfD when declining the page.....which, if I was the page creator, would make me think, the page discussed here is not concerned by deletion! Still as Gowthamaprabu's Draft was the first page to be created, I consider it should be the starting point so I suggest a merge of all three pages into Draft:Miss You (film). Premise is known, actors are notable, coverage for verification exists, so even if it's the other way around, I won't be shocked but declining the Draft and inviting its creator to expand a page and, an hour later or so, taking the said page to AfD is a bit confusing.Mushy Yank (talk) 22:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Hello @Robert McClenon and @Mushy Yank! Hope you're both doing well! I wanted to provide some context regarding the article Miss You (2024), which covers the upcoming film set for release at the end of November 2024. As mentioned transparently, I have been commissioned by the producers to edit and create content for this article, ensuring accurate representation of the movie. I’ve Confirmed that the official release date is November 29, 2024, though due to a lack of publicly available citations, I haven't specified the date in the article itself. I’ve included all available information with relevant citations, and I believe the content is accurate and complete as presented. If possible, I'd suggest we retain the article and continue to improve it together. We could even consider merging it with Draft: Miss You (Film) by User:Gowthamaprabu to consolidate information. Meena1998 (talk) 07:10, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Daveed (2025 film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unreleased film, nothing especially notable about the production, therefore does not meet WP:NFILM, specifically WP:NFF, as an as yet unreleased film. Should have remained in draft space but has been moved back to main space, so deletion is required. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 17:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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- I can see many upcoming movie articles on Wikipedia, and as an editor who enjoys creating and editing movie articles, I’m particularly focused on the Indian film industry. My goal is to reach 10,000 edits and become a strong contributor to Wikipedia. Recently, I encountered a deletion nomination for an article on an upcoming film, even though its release date has been announced. I removed the "unreleased" category and added the "upcoming films" category since the shoot and post-production are complete. I’ve verified all the data through news articles, and everything seems accurate. This is the first time I've faced a deletion nomination for a film article, and I’m feeling a bit helpless. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Arjusreenivas (talk) 18:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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- And regarding the notbaility of prodcution, The film was distributed by Century Films which is the distributer of Malaikottai Vaaliban, Perumani and John Luther etc. These are the details I got from the producers social handles. Arjusreenivas (talk) 18:30, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- "Notability" would rather be established through sources independent of the subject. (Not saying that what you are saying is not true nor that it is not interesting) Mushy Yank (talk) 22:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Thank you for your Participation in this Discussion, Please Check sources, I think the article have more than enough sources. Arjusreenivas (talk) 03:07, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing about the production, as stated, is notable. Everything is very, very standard. WP:NFF is clear:
Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines.
Basically, you should not be creating articles in main article space about the vast majority of films that have not yet released. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 10:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- "Notability" would rather be established through sources independent of the subject. (Not saying that what you are saying is not true nor that it is not interesting) Mushy Yank (talk) 22:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Antony_Varghese#Films: listed there; given existing coverage, the fact that filming is wrapped, the cast, notable and details about productions are verifiable, I am not opposed to Keep if other users agree it can be kept (opposed to deletion, not necessary in the present case). Mushy Yank (talk) 22:50, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Mushy Yank. Yes, I believe this article is relevant to keep on Wikipedia because the release date has been announced, and the film has already wrapped. Therefore, deletion would not be the right decision. Thank you for your comment. Arjusreenivas (talk) 03:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The film has successfully completed its production phase, and reliable sources confirm that it is currently in the post-production and marketing stages, with only the final release pending. The project meets 4 out of 5 of the WP:NFF production guidelines. Sufficient information is available to justify an independent article, and it can be classified under the "2025 films, Upcoming films, Upcoming Malayalam-language films" category.--— MimsMENTOR talk 07:35, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Plunder of Murshidabad (1742) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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- First of all, the article is written in the form of a fan-made story, attempting to villainize an entity (or perhaps show off? There are numerous instances in articles about Indian military history where users have included shocking or vulgar acts committed by militants).
- WP:CITEKILL has made source analysis more complex, but once unreliable sources were cleared, the analysis became much easier. The article clearly fails to meet WP:GNG, as well as old sources falling under WP:RAJ and WP:AGEMATTERS have widely been used (caused the reason for the put down of the last proposal, and i was on a break)
Analysis:
- The New Cambridge Modern History Vol. 7 (1713-63)* by Lindsay, J. O., Ed:
The book only mentions "Murshidabad" once, with the context found in the parent article on Maratha invasions of Bengal.
- The same applies to *The Marathas - Cambridge History of India (Vol. 2, Part 4)* by Stewart Gordon;
It mentions the event alongside the "Maratha invasions of Bengal," which, indeed, should also be referenced here. A separate article is not warranted for this event, as it is a minor occurrence within a larger conflict—specifically, a plunder. Such events do not meet the minimum notability standards. In fact, an entire page from a reliable source is missing in this case. Additionally, the use of a military conflict infobox is unnecessary here, as it follows the same problematic pattern seen with articles like "Battle of X" or "X-Y Wars" in Indian military history. This approach has caused numerous issues. In conclusion, the article fails to meet notability standards and is poorly written. The content could easily be integrated into the parent article instead. Imperial[AFCND] 14:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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- note to the closer: Please review the background of the voters as meatpuppetry is common among these topic areas.-Imperial[AFCND] 14:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sarvepalli Sisters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable singers. Fails WP:GNG. BBQboffingrill me 07:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Article creator removed AFD tag, blanked the page and moved it to Draft space. All of which have been reverted. Liz Read! Talk! 07:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - I am not sure if this is promotional, a vanity piece, or simply a case of TOOSOON. In time they may become notable, but not now.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SINGER. I can't find any reliable sources covering this duo. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:04, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Added news article references & other website citations Aksvsm (talk) 11:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - The article appears to be a promotional attempt and at best, it is too soon for the sisters to qualify for a WP article. I can find no significant coverage in reliable music media, and they are only visible in self-upload and social media sites. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Poor to unreliable sources with no significant coverage on the subject to pass notability. Page likely a WP:PROMO. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 15:49, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Article dominated by unreliable sources and highly promotional. I do know that AFD is not a place to clean promotional contents or delete an article because it is promotional, but this notability is way below required standard. Mekomo (talk) 16:31, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Keep - The duo are well noted upcoming artists in the field of carnatic music
- Yamadheera (2024 film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to Kempegowda 2 removed several times by user. This is the only article created by that user.
See the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force#Dubbed films do not get articles. Dubbed films do not get articles in any circumstances. The icing on the cake is that the last Zee News source upon translating in English says that It was made as a Kannada movie with Shankar as the director. Recently this film is being released in Telugu with the title Yamadhira.
The original text was శంకర్ దర్శకుడిగా చేస్తూ కన్నడ సినిమాగా తెరకెక్కించారు. తాజాగా ఈ చిత్రాన్ని తెలుగులో యమధీర టైటిల్తో విడుదల చేస్తున్నారు.
The 5th source (TFPC) despite being potentially unreliable also confirms the same. Yamadheera is a Kannada film made by Vedala Srinivas as producer and Shankar as director. Our Telugu actors Nagababu, Madhusudan, Ali and Satya Prakash are acting in this movie.
@Ravensfire:, I already created the discussion, but this user is adamant, do you think it could be a case of WP:COI? DareshMohan (talk) 07:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Restore redirect. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Restore redirect: Generally dubbed films should be mentioned on the original film's page, not with a stand-alone article. Ravensfire (talk) 13:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect back to Kempegowda 2. Move-Protection should be applied here. RangersRus (talk) 15:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Stoxkart (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources given are not indication of notability: the first two are from the company itself, while the third repeats a company statement, and the last two are instances of its CEO being quoted in media for unrelated topics. Doing a quick WP:BEFORE, I can find more company announcements/press releases (thehindubusinessline.com, entrepreneur.com), and this article by techinasia.com which still quotes the company's statements to some extent but not as fully as the others. Still, not looking like it meets WP:GNG or WP:NCORP. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:45, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete fails NCORP/CORPDEPTH; sources are routine and promotional. Creator blocked for advertising.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 13:44, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ajay Pal Lamba (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The sources in the article, at least the ones in English (and most of them are in English!), talk about Lamdas arrest of a notorious rapist. A WP:BEFORE revealed more of the same plus social media accounts. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 14:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Every year, hundreds of IPS and IAS officers are appointed in India, and most of them receive media coverage. They are often highlighted as successful individuals, especially those from poor backgrounds. According to this, it would seem that all of them should qualify for Wikipedia, Sorry. Baqi:) (talk) 17:04, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Peyanvilai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sources since 2008. Article appears to be entirely WP:OR. Smallangryplanet (talk) 10:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete or Redirect Couldn't find any sources for the topic. Agreeing with User:Smallangryplanet that it is WP:OR. Either delete or redirect to Thoothukudi District. TNM101 (chat) 11:55, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep I found this article and added it to the article. Unsourced claims should be removed.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 12:14, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Thoothukudi district. Not opposed to Delete. No reliable source with significant coverage on the village. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 15:59, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Arumuganeri. Apparently, this was a former village that has now been merged into Arumuganeri (another former village now designated as a town). The following query may help find some sources: site:gov.in "Arumuganeri" "Peyanvilai". utcursch | talk 01:45, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Perumapalayam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sources since 2008. A search for RS shows mostly references to this page. Smallangryplanet (talk) 10:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. It’s long overdue time to clean up. Bearian (talk) 10:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment found some sources and added to the article. Unverified claims should be removed.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 12:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Erode district. Not opposed to Delete. No significant coverage on the village in reliable sources and evaluation of added sources have just passing mention. Still fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 16:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sahla Parveen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nothing has changed since the last AFD. Fails GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 04:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: The reference to Deccan Chronicle is valid. However, the inclusion of 'Amazon' as a reference is inappropriate and does not meet reliable sourcing standards. Given these sources, the subject may not meet the criteria outlined in Wikipedia's General Notability Guidelines (WP:GNG), which require significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Therefore, additional references from reputable publications would be needed to establish notability effectively. Baqi:) (talk) 10:56, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete the DC's author seemed dubious, but further review revealed that Cris S is an assistant editor at DC. After removing Amazon and Goodreads, the other three sources don't meet the significant coverage requirement.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 12:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: While some of the reliability of the sources can be verified, the article cannot stand alone as the subject does not meet Wikipedia's WP:GNG criteria.--— MimsMENTOR talk 07:43, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Battles of Belonia Bulge (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The "Battles of Belonia Bulge" article has faced multiple issues since May, as it does not meet Wikipedia's quality standards. Specifically, the article provides insufficient Doomguy427 (talk) 16:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Laggam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article Laggam (film) already exists, and is more comprehensive. Content from Laggam can be merged into Laggam (film) if necessary. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:19, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge This issue can be resolved by requesting a merge and someone has already submitted a request for it. Now that the issue has been brought to AFD, the content of Laggam should be merged into Laggam (film). But after the merger the title should be changed to just "Laggam".Chanel Dsouza (talk) 13:30, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- 2024 Srinagar attack (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NEVENT. I'm only seeing routine coverage, and no in-depth coverage. Not sure if this is going to have any lasting effect or receive any more coverage than what's already there. --Ratekreel (talk) 16:38, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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- I'd also like to note that the title of this article is misleading. It should have been named somthing like 2024 Khanyar/Srinagar gunfight/encounter, given it was not an attack. --Ratekreel (talk) 16:44, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Shareef Muhammed (producer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Apart from producing a upcoming movie, the subject hasn't accomplished anything noteworthy for an article. All the sources are about his upcoming movie. Fails GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 16:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete While the subject look promising, he is only notable for one event (Producing "Marco" Movie)which is not enough to create an article for him here. Tesleemah (talk) 03:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Producers are mostly covered by the media in the context of the projects they invest in, which makes it difficult for them to meet GNG requirements.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 13:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Only one film in subject's credit, fails WP:NPRODUCER. No significant coverage on the biography of the subject and the sources are poor with only passing mentions. RangersRus (talk) 16:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: The subject has only one unreleased project and is supported by weak sources, failing to meet the criteria of WP:GNG and WP:PRODUCER.--— MimsMENTOR talk 08:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - as noted above, producers aren’t automatically notable. We routinely delete articles about production personnel because they are so run of the mill. Furthermore, in India, infomercials have taken over previously responsible media there, so sourcing about business in India requires a close eye. Bearian (talk) 10:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Janmat (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't qualify for WP:NORG or WP:GNG. Has received very basic routine coverage which amounts it "this also exists". It is an alliance of minor parties without representation in any state legislature or national parliament, more than half of them don't even have their own articles. MrMkG (talk) 16:06, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Cubes Entertainments (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable film production company. Fails WP:NCORP.There are no reliable independent multiple sources available as well. Thilsebatti (talk) 06:53, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete-Fails notability criteria for companies. No sources found. 115.247.203.26 (talk) 19:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete: With only one project (unreleased), weak sources, fails notability criteria. Suggesting speedy delete as the article has little to no chance of surviving a deletion discussion.--— MimsMENTOR talk 08:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Roshni Kapoor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The subject clearly fails to meet the WP:GNG (general notability guideline) and WP:NACTOR (notability for actors) standards. Coverage is limited to routine mentions, and most sources lack reliability per WP:RS (reliable sources). Additionally, many of the news articles appear to be paid content and include disclaimers indicating as such. Baqi:) (talk) 13:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: The current sources in the article are generally unreliable, except for a Bollywood Hungama video and a Zee News article. However, the Zee News article is about the song “Tu Rooh Mein Samaya” and does not provide significant coverage of the subject. Additionally, I was unable to find significant coverage from reliable, independent sources during my search. Therefore, the article fails to meet WP:GNG, and since the subject has no lead roles in multiple notable films, it also fails WP:NACTOR. GrabUp - Talk 14:17, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Poor to unreliable sources. Fails WP:NACTOR who has not played significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions and has not made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. RangersRus (talk) 14:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR, TheSlumPanda (talk) 15:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete little to add: a non-notable film without major coverage, sources that are churnalism and BrandMedia masquerading as legitimate, and two music videos are insufficient to pass NACTOR.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 14:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- 18 Vayasu Puyale (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There are no reliable references or review from Chennai Online for this article. Most of the sources are unreliable (Behindwoods, Indiaglitz, Filmibeat) as per [1] per Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force. Only sources are about lead actor Ajay Pradeep eve teasing at a college [2] [3] [4], which is his personal life and not about the film (passing mention).
Save the article by adding reliable sources such as Kalki review. Cinesouth review can also help. Tamil search yields nothing useful [5]. DareshMohan (talk) 07:01, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Some notable personalities are involved. The film was released and verification is possible. In this type of case, the working consensus is for standard ATDs such as redirects to director or a list of films. Here redirect (and possibly, merge) to List of Tamil films of 2007#July—September, until better sources are identified. Thanks.Mushy Yank (talk) 09:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. No significant coverage and lacks reliable sources and reviews from reliable critics. Fails WP:NFILM. If any improvement with multiple reliable sources are found, I will reconsider my vote. RangersRus (talk) 14:31, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Riyasat Parjamandal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unable to find enough sources to show that this topic meets WP:NORG. Redirection would have been a good ATD, but the only article that mentions this party is Ghagga, a town, which seems inappropriate as a target. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:24, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - the article name has a typo, it should be "Riyasat Prajamandal", "Riyasat Prajamandal" or "Riasti Praja Mandal". Notable political movement, see [6], [7], [8], [9] --Soman (talk) 10:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I believe the article is notable and the article just needs some corrections. It’s better to improve the article rather than delete it. Since Soman has provided references above, I think it's justified for the article to remain on Wikipedia. Baqi:) (talk) 17:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Haryana Gana Parishad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unable to find enough sources to show that this meets WP:NORG. PROD was contested. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, political party that had representation in the national parliament of India. Not impossible to source, and as per the number of references it is worth noting that there isn't a lot of 1999 material from Indian press online but WP:NEXIST more sources will exist offline in Indian national news media. --Soman (talk) 09:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- The last sentence of WP:NEXIST is "However, once an article's notability has been challenged, merely asserting that unspecified sources exist is seldom persuasive, especially if time passes and actual proof does not surface". This article has been tagged as having no sources since December 2009. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- You're misreading NEXIST. Here is a party in national parliament, so it is reasonable to assume that there would exist offline sources available in addition to the available online sources. And lack of sourcing is not a deletion criteria in itself (apart from BLP articles). --Soman (talk) 10:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- The last sentence of WP:NEXIST is "However, once an article's notability has been challenged, merely asserting that unspecified sources exist is seldom persuasive, especially if time passes and actual proof does not surface". This article has been tagged as having no sources since December 2009. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Haryana Republican Party (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unable to find enough sources to show that this meets WP:NORG. PROD was contested. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Political party represented in state legislature. By no means impossible to source, and WP:NEXIST applies here as it is not very easily to find regional news from India from 2003 online. --Soman (talk) 09:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Gladrags Manhunt and Megamodel Contest (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This event lacks in-depth, independent and significant coverage as confirmed by a search on Google News. Also, the award is given primarily for promotional purposes by entities involved in marketing which is one of the exclusionary criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (awards and medals). Charlie (talk) 17:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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- This overall doesn't meet WP:GNG Cyberpower7 (talk) 19:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Keep how a national contest could not be notable. It also sends winners as national representatives to Manhunt International, Miss Intercontinental from 1997 to 2003, Miss Tourism International. Also Covered in high-profile Indian media which added, kindly check. Jitujadab90 (talk) 19:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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- I am not seeing any in-depth, independent and significant coverage on Google News. Could you kindly provide a detailed source analysis to support your vote to keep? Charlie (talk) 06:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: "Mannequin: Working Women in India's Glamour Industry" (Zubaan Books) by Manjima Bhattacharjya has 2 paragraphs on the Awards; note: the name varies a lot http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/52851463.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst and is very often shortened (without Contest or without other words; sometimes longer "Gladrags magazine’s Manhunt and Megamodel Contest"). I find more coverage about individual winners (a lot) than about the Awards per se. If this is not enough, it could be redirected to the magazine (I don't think deletion is necessary) Mushy Yank (talk) 23:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Also, I forgot to mention: please read the first AfD, where sources had been presented, some that I found linked also in Google Books but I cannot access fully so cannot judge. (Consider this a weak keep then). Mushy Yank (talk) 23:31, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rituraj Kishore Sinha (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This page is not about an elected candidate at either the national or state level, so it fails to follow the WP:NPOL guidelines. Also, he fails to qualify for a page according to WP:NBIO, or WP:ANYBIO. Charlie (talk) 17:12, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fails WP:NPOL. I cannot find subject's work as entrepreneur and politician that has made any significant impact and achievement, to be worthy of notice and noteworthy. RangersRus (talk) 14:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: It's too early at this point, and the article fails to meet both WP:NPOL and WP:GNG guidelines. Baqi:) (talk) 09:09, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Tamilaga Vettri Kazhagam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Despite its creation by a blocked sockpuppet, specifically User:Bhusungk, this political party was founded this year and has not yet participated in any elections. The article currently fails to meet the notability criteria outlined in WP:GNG and WP:NORG. As a newly established regional political organization, it has not made notable contributions to regional or national political landscapes. Most sources are centered on initial news coverage reporting the party’s formation by a well-known actor, lacking substantial analysis or depth regarding the party’s policies, actions, or influence. There is no indication that the party has engaged in any significant political activities or initiatives that would establish its importance. Additionally, no reliable sources provide evidence of public or political recognition or electoral impact that would qualify it as a noteworthy political entity.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 13:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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- How many sockpuppets of the original creator edited the article? And if I read the article correctly, a predecessor did contest elections. but yes, I have a promo-concern. The Banner talk 14:29, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @The Banner: I don’t have specific information regarding sockpuppets. The predecessor, however, was primarily a fan club rather than a political party. If the fan club meets notability standards, it might warrant a separate article. The current political entity does not appear notable at this time, which I interpret as aligning with WP:TOOSOON.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 14:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- User:Owais Al Qarni, what kind of sources do you think would help Tamilaga Vettri Kazhagam pass WP:GNG? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 17:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Tamilaga Vettri Kazhagam (TVK), recently founded by actor Vijay, has demonstrated significant grassroots support by mobilizing thousands of youth across Tamil Nadu, positioning itself as a notable new political force focused on addressing regional issues and youth empowerment. Abdullah099$55 (talk) 20:02, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- We have no use for promo. What Wikipedia needs is relevant info, based on reliable, independent, quality sources. Per WP:RS. The Banner talk 20:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- That makes no sense. There is ample evidence of Vijay founding the party. Abdullah099$55 (talk) 02:16, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- We have no use for promo. What Wikipedia needs is relevant info, based on reliable, independent, quality sources. Per WP:RS. The Banner talk 20:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- @The Banner: I don’t have specific information regarding sockpuppets. The predecessor, however, was primarily a fan club rather than a political party. If the fan club meets notability standards, it might warrant a separate article. The current political entity does not appear notable at this time, which I interpret as aligning with WP:TOOSOON.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 14:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Just because the party has not participated in any elections, doesn't make it less notable, the party was created 9 months ago from a 15 years old philanthropic fan club, especially since the recent massive political conference, TVK has already been established to be notable party in Tamil Nadu politics, as it was created by a very popular actor in India, also already got millions of memberships, the mainstream media has been covering everything, the article is supported with lots of reliable sources with significant coverage meeting the criterias of WP:GNG, and they have become more active in the past months with announcements of policies and resolutions and will probably be actively engaging in more political activities and campaign for the 2026 election. Yarohj (talk) 05:55, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Priti Adani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable individual. Sources are merely about the statements she has made which are sourced to WP:NEWSORGINDIA, and she is only known for being the wife of Gautam Adani. See WP:INHERITED. Ratnahastin (talk) 09:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - as noted above, and other recent AfDs, infomercials have taken over previously responsible media there, so sourcing about business in India requires better sourcing. Bearian (talk) 08:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
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Non-notable individual. Sources are promotional and cited to WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Only known for being a relative of Gautam Adani. See WP:INHERITED. Ratnahastin (talk) 09:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - as noted above, infomercials have taken over previously responsible media there, so sourcing about business in India requires better quality sourcing. Bearian (talk) 08:54, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
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I think WP:GYMNAST has been updated since last AfD. Simply competing in World Championships is not enough. Needs significant coverage and only a directory listing is provided. LibStar (talk) 22:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. I didn't find reputable sources which discuss this subject in depth, fails WP:GNG. also he participated in international championship but not won medal and also he didn’t have significant coverage in news media to get notability without medal. hence fails, WP:NGYMNAST TheSlumPanda (talk) 15:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep: Really not sure how to approach this one as I'm an American with an English-speaking background while the subject is based out of India and this strikes me as potential WP:BIAS. It seems like there are several, several English-language mentions of his gymnastics which can be easily searched up (this, this, this, this, this, this, etc.), but none in English that go in depth. I'd have to believe, but do not have the current ability to search and verify, that there are likely many more sources in the subject's native sources. Per the previous rationale, as nom has shared, WP:NGYMNAST is just a suggestion and GNG is what dominates here. In my personal opinion, with the sheer amount of mentions in English of this subject, I'd lean towards the weak keep to give the status quo the benefit of the doubt here. GauchoDude (talk) 19:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Sources identified above are purely routine announcements and offer zero depth, with ToI additionally being unreliable for BLPs. Athletes at this level basically always get hundreds of mentions without necessarily receiving any SIGCOV. I'm not convinced there will be further coverage in local sources, and anyway, per SPORTCRIT, this bio is required to cite a source of IRS SIGCOV to remain a standalone so any presumption of meeting GNG is moot. JoelleJay (talk) 02:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- History of India as a political entity (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Seems a synthetic topic, potentially doubling as a content fork. None of the cited sources are comparative as the article purports itself to be, and do not otherwise indicate the material as something other than an original synthesis. Remsense ‥ 论 19:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Thr article is basically about an contrast to how people view Historical India as a region.
- It points out political entities in the Indian subcontinent which called themselves India in any language or form.
- Like Mughals, Mauryas,Etc.
- Could you tell me which sources are wrong as you are saying, i will surely sort them out and correct the JingJongPascal (talk) 19:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- You can't create an article juxtaposing whichever elements according to whatever criteria you want if sources do not themselves do that: that is original synthesis, a form of original research. If there are reliable sources that themselves compare and contrast these polities according to your criteria then you have to present and cite them, otherwise you are using sources that are focused on each individual polity to draw conclusions and observations that none of them individually make themselves.. Remsense ‥ 论 19:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- What sources are wrong?
- Each source is representing what they were called natively.
- If your problem is with my articles title of India as a political entity and if you think this does not draw conclusions then maybe we can discuss for alternative name of the article? JingJongPascal (talk) 19:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Please see the policy I linked multiple times. Again, the problem regards the subject of the article itself, which seems to be entirely synthetic on your part. You can't make an article juxtaposing whatever information you want, even if each individual piece of information is sourced. I would not be allowed to publish History of political entities whose names begin with J because that is not itself a subject established or attested in sources, even if Japan, Jin, and Jalalabad are individually. By putting them together in an article, you are making connections that are not substantiated: that is original synthesis. Remsense ‥ 论 03:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- You can't create an article juxtaposing whichever elements according to whatever criteria you want if sources do not themselves do that: that is original synthesis, a form of original research. If there are reliable sources that themselves compare and contrast these polities according to your criteria then you have to present and cite them, otherwise you are using sources that are focused on each individual polity to draw conclusions and observations that none of them individually make themselves.. Remsense ‥ 论 19:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I will support a deletion here since problem with this article is that its just baseless, India's history as a region is already covered in History of India and as a nation state in History of Republic of India.This article is just unnecessary and useless.Also, per @Remsense's arguments.Thanks. Edasf (talk) 04:12, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete As Remsense said there's no sources discussing this topic in a way that would differentiate it from the similar one found in India#History. Country articles contain a history section that goes back further than whatever their current political system is. France#History starts way before 1958, for example. All of the major groups and events that would be in this article would no doubt have a place in India#History - and so far as I can tell they already do. Wizmut (talk) 20:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I will stress the fundamental criteria seem particularly arbitrary: why not just "large states in historical India", if not because this particular collection is meant to illustrate a more specific conception of the history? Sources would need to exist that support and analyze such a conception. Remsense ‥ 论 20:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - we are not here trying to lay down or advocate for certain historical views. We are supposed to reflect what others have written. Unless there are sources which substantially cover this topic as framed here, the page trying to do something outside of the remit of an encyclopedia. JMWt (talk) 20:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom. over generalized title as well UzbukUdash (talk) 05:09, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- i understand all arguments ,so can we maybe work on alternative name of the article? Or maybe merging it with another article? JingJongPascal (talk) 06:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- We could change the article's name to "Historical usage of India" or "Historical usage of India as a political entity"?
- That woud fit better JingJongPascal (talk) 08:09, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- You do not seem to understand, as per above the issue is not with the article title, but with what the article is actually about. Its content remains exactly the same, juxtaposing subtopics to reflect an emphasis that you have seemingly invented yourself. Why would a different article title solve this problem, as I described above? Remsense ‥ 论 00:25, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- i understand all arguments ,so can we maybe work on alternative name of the article? Or maybe merging it with another article? JingJongPascal (talk) 06:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Per nom and the discussion above from other voters. RangersRus (talk) 14:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - what a complete mess of original research, soap-boxing, and essay-writing. Bearian (talk) 04:39, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Vishwa Bharti Women's College, Srinagar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Completely unsourced article about a local "branch" of a "large educational complex" that doesn't have an article about the overarching entity (or at least not at the "Vishwa Bharti Women's Welfare Institution" name indicated by this article; if it does have one at a different name, I don't have the depth of knowledge about India needed to find it). As always, educational institutions are not "inherently" notable just for existing, and have to have GNG-worthy coverage to support an article with -- and if the parent institution isn't notable enough for an article, then a "branch" obviously can't be more notable than its parent entity. Bearcat (talk) 14:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to University of Kashmir: As the college’s website claims affiliation with the University of Kashmir, the majority of Indian colleges and schools with their own articles fail our notability guidelines, and the same applies to this college. No significant coverage sources were found. GrabUp - Talk 14:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to University of Kashmir: As it was noted by GrabUp above that the college is affiliated with University of Kashmir, I too believe that it should be redirected to UoK rather than deleted. --Ratekreel (talk) 11:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to University of Kashmir it is interesting to note that the article has been unsourced since it was created in 2014. The funny thing is that it has had a decade to be improved, yet not a single source has been added. Online research has revealed that the institution exists, but the sources do not meet NORG standards.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 14:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Chanel Dsouza: Before 2017, these types of institutions were presumed notable if their existence was confirmed, but this changed with an RFC in 2017. GrabUp - Talk 14:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Aanchal Kumar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The subject of this page does not meet notability standards WP:NBIO and WP:GNG or WP:SNG. In addition to that, the citations given are insufficient and do not possess the required quality and reliability. Although she may have won a beauty pageant, it is not a major national fashion or beauty event. Contrasting WP:INHERENT. Also, being married to a businessman who has a wikipedia page of his own does not automatically establish notability by association WP:INHERITED. The notability of her husband's page is also open to debate, but let's not get into that.
This nomination is part of my training and assessment activities at NPP School. Charlie (talk) 09:53, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep:
meets WP:ANYBIO with a significant award; if other users disagree, a redirect to Gladrags_Manhunt_and_Megamodel_Contest#Winners (where she is listed) should have been considered anyway.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC) Given the notability of the awards is challenged (rightly so or not, not sure [same nom]) see below and AfD about the awards, keeping my keep but changing my argument: no more ANYBIO but a modest BASIC/GNG pass, in light of the sources presented by Jeraxmoira. (Not opposed to a redirect and merge to Anupam_Mittal#Personal_life, where she is mentioned (with a picture), as a lot of the existing coverage mentions her in regard to her marriage and private life).Thanks.Mushy Yank (talk) 23:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[fwiw, I don't think Anupam Mittal's notability is doubtful]
- Keep meets WP:ANYBIO with a significant award Gladrags Manhunt and Megamodel Contest and represented India in Miss Intercontinental (The winner of Gladrags Mega model represented India at Miss Intercontinental from 1997 to 2003) and ended up as a semi-finalist. She was also a contestant in Bigg Boss and got evicted after 6 weeks. You will get to see a lot of news about her. Added some old references.
- Jitujadab90 (talk) 08:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- We shouldn't rely too heavily on Gladrags Manhunt as a significant award, especially since it itself depends on a single, unreliable source. A search through Google News reveals that the event lacks significance on its own and does not demonstrate notability. Secondly, being a participant on a reality show does not make someone notable. We need better sources that are in-depth, significant, and independent. Charlie (talk) 17:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Why can't we rely on a contest that is a national contest? Also, Gladrags sends winners as national representatives to Manhunt International, Miss Intercontinental from 1997 to 2003, Miss Tourism International. Aanchal represented India among the top five contestants in the Miss Intercontinental. I also agree that being a participant on a reality show does not make someone notable, but at the same time, it is very difficult to survive 6 weeks on a reality show like Bigg Boss, she must have done a significant job in the show. She also won the celebrity segment of quiz show Baazi Kiski hosted by B-town actor Ashutosh Rana on Zee TV. Jitujadab90 (talk) 20:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- My friend, Gladrags is primarily a promotional contest and lacks reliable coverage. I have already provided a Google News search result link that clearly explains my concern. Also, being a participant in an international event is quite different from being a winner. If you are able to add substantial information to help the page meet the Heymann standard, please feel free to do so. Charlie (talk) 06:17, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Why can't we rely on a contest that is a national contest? Also, Gladrags sends winners as national representatives to Manhunt International, Miss Intercontinental from 1997 to 2003, Miss Tourism International. Aanchal represented India among the top five contestants in the Miss Intercontinental. I also agree that being a participant on a reality show does not make someone notable, but at the same time, it is very difficult to survive 6 weeks on a reality show like Bigg Boss, she must have done a significant job in the show. She also won the celebrity segment of quiz show Baazi Kiski hosted by B-town actor Ashutosh Rana on Zee TV. Jitujadab90 (talk) 20:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- We shouldn't rely too heavily on Gladrags Manhunt as a significant award, especially since it itself depends on a single, unreliable source. A search through Google News reveals that the event lacks significance on its own and does not demonstrate notability. Secondly, being a participant on a reality show does not make someone notable. We need better sources that are in-depth, significant, and independent. Charlie (talk) 17:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: What do you think of these sources? [10] [11] Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- According to Wikipedia:CITEUNSEEN, the first link from Tribune India is credible, and the article is authored by a staff writer but the coverage appears in Saturday Plus, a supplement rather than the main newspaper. In the second link, Rediff, while also reputable as per CITEHIGHLIGHTER , focuses on being someone's girl friend, which led to its coverage, so I would prefer to skip it. Charlie (talk) 07:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Are you implying that coverage from a supplement paper and a source discussing her as someone’s girlfriend does not count towards the GNG? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 10:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- I am implying coverage from a supplement paper should be given careful consideration as it may be useful for satisfying verifiability, but may be less useful for the purpose of determining notability. But, the source discussing her as someone’s girlfriend shouldn't be counted. Charlie (talk) 12:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can you point to the policy that backs up your statement? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 12:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Certainly! To partially accept the first source, I will refer to WP:SPONSORED where it clearly states that "merely being published in a supplement is not prima facie evidence of being published in a sponsored supplement. Many, if not most, supplements are perfectly legitimate sources". For not accepting the second source, I will take support of WP:INHERITED. Charlie (talk) 13:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- You have your answer in the statement you mentioned. Unless you can prove that the source published on November 13, 1999, is a sponsored one, it is completely acceptable for GNG. WP:INHERITED states, "Caution: This section is not a content guideline or policy". Deletion discussions are based on policies and guidelines, not essays.
- And fwiw, your interpretation of WP:INHERITED is completely incorrect. Please read the subsequent paragraphs below the example arguments. WP:INHERITED is not applicable here, as no one is arguing that she is notable for being Yuvraj Singh’s rumored girlfriend. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 13:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- While essays are not official policies or guidelines, many offer valuable insights and are worth considering. Policies and guidelines may not cover every possible situation, so numerous essays provide interpretations or commentary on community norms for particular topics and scenarios. We may hold differing views, and each perspective has merit. so let’s respectfully agree to disagree. Charlie (talk) 14:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Certainly! To partially accept the first source, I will refer to WP:SPONSORED where it clearly states that "merely being published in a supplement is not prima facie evidence of being published in a sponsored supplement. Many, if not most, supplements are perfectly legitimate sources". For not accepting the second source, I will take support of WP:INHERITED. Charlie (talk) 13:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can you point to the policy that backs up your statement? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 12:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- I am implying coverage from a supplement paper should be given careful consideration as it may be useful for satisfying verifiability, but may be less useful for the purpose of determining notability. But, the source discussing her as someone’s girlfriend shouldn't be counted. Charlie (talk) 12:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Are you implying that coverage from a supplement paper and a source discussing her as someone’s girlfriend does not count towards the GNG? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 10:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- According to Wikipedia:CITEUNSEEN, the first link from Tribune India is credible, and the article is authored by a staff writer but the coverage appears in Saturday Plus, a supplement rather than the main newspaper. In the second link, Rediff, while also reputable as per CITEHIGHLIGHTER , focuses on being someone's girl friend, which led to its coverage, so I would prefer to skip it. Charlie (talk) 07:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: There are numerous reliable sources available, starting from her winning the Gladrags Manhunt and Megamodel Contest up to her recent marriage and childbirth, which can be used to write a well sourced article. WP:INHERITED discusses an instance of a subject assumed to be notable only because it is related to an existing notable subject, which does not apply here. We have coverage that goes back to 1999, from different events in her life. Even if we consider all the coverage from Bigg Boss as one, we still have substantial coverage starting from her pageant victory up to her entry into Bigg Boss, which easily meets GNG. The 2012 deletion discussion was argued on the basis of subject being notable for one event, which is also not applicable, as we have coverage beyond that. Apart from this, Gladrags Manhunt and Megamodel Contest has also survived two AfDs, which means the pageant victory should be considered as significant award or honor, thereby passing WP:ANYBIO. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 15:30, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- I am having difficulty finding relevant sources on Google search, or perhaps I might be overlooking some like I missed the 1999 Tribune Supplement. Would it be possible for you to provide a source analysis table to aid in? This would be incredibly valuable for me as well as for the assessor regarding my recently concluded NPP training, as my rights application is still pending. Charlie (talk) 12:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- There is no need for a source analysis here. I believe the main issue lies with your nomination, as you cited WP:INHERITED which is commonly used in AfD arguments, not nominations. A recent example of inherited notability could be Alakh Pandey. In this case, Aanchal Kumar is not solely notable for marrying Anupam Mittal, participating in Bigg Boss or winning the Gladrags Manhunt and Megamodel Contest rather her notability comes from all three factors, at this point. Redirecting Aanchal Kumar to either Gladrags Manhunt and Megamodel Contest or Anupam Mittal would result in a significant loss of content, so that's out of the discussion. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 16:21, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Understood! Though I was hoping for a source analysis table, but thank you nonetheless! Charlie (talk) 04:29, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, @Jeraxmoira,@Jitujadab90 and thank you, please note that the nominator has also nominated Gladrags Manhunt and Megamodel Contest for deletion (one day after this). Mushy Yank (talk) 23:08, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- There is no need for a source analysis here. I believe the main issue lies with your nomination, as you cited WP:INHERITED which is commonly used in AfD arguments, not nominations. A recent example of inherited notability could be Alakh Pandey. In this case, Aanchal Kumar is not solely notable for marrying Anupam Mittal, participating in Bigg Boss or winning the Gladrags Manhunt and Megamodel Contest rather her notability comes from all three factors, at this point. Redirecting Aanchal Kumar to either Gladrags Manhunt and Megamodel Contest or Anupam Mittal would result in a significant loss of content, so that's out of the discussion. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 16:21, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- I am having difficulty finding relevant sources on Google search, or perhaps I might be overlooking some like I missed the 1999 Tribune Supplement. Would it be possible for you to provide a source analysis table to aid in? This would be incredibly valuable for me as well as for the assessor regarding my recently concluded NPP training, as my rights application is still pending. Charlie (talk) 12:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, She did severals of notable work and have good sources. Camilear (talk) 16:06, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- 2016 Khamgaon municipal council election (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unable to find any sources to show that this election happened, let alone enough sources to meet WP:GNG. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Jai Hanuman (film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The current sourcing is just about first look, and no SIGCOV sources were found. The article fails to meet WP:GNG. Also, the shooting of the film has not started, as this is a sequel to Hanu-Man. I will request a redirect to that article until it passes GNG or NFILM. GrabUp - Talk 07:50, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Draft lack of proper citation as its too early. UzbukUdash (talk) 04:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Since only the poster (as a First Look) was released a day ago, there may not be enough verified information or notable media coverage to establish this upcoming film's significance at this time. WP:TOOSOON.This vote is part of my training and assessment activities at NPP School. Charlie (talk) 09:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: as a very anticipated film, as existing coverage shows; or redirect to Hanu-Man#Future until consensus is to revert and expand, if other users think it's better. Absolutely opposed to deletion. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @GrabUp, can I ask why you didn't discuss Redirect on the article TP or with the main contributor if this is the outcome you suggest? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Mushy Yank: It’s my opinion, and I’m uncertain whether it should be redirected or deleted. I didn’t want to do the redirect myself due to this uncertainty, so I took it to AfD. There’s no way this article can be kept now, and I thought a bold redirect could be challenged, which Charlie proved. I can see that they think this article should be deleted. GrabUp - Talk 10:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying! -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yup, There’s no better place than AfD to determine its notability. A talk page discussion would likely have fewer editors involved, possibly just me and the author. GrabUp - Talk 11:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. But, precisely, if the creator agrees on a Redirect, it's an easily-reached consensus. But never mind, that's not a problem and you did well to nominate it if you think it's fairer. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yup, There’s no better place than AfD to determine its notability. A talk page discussion would likely have fewer editors involved, possibly just me and the author. GrabUp - Talk 11:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying! -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Mushy Yank: It’s my opinion, and I’m uncertain whether it should be redirected or deleted. I didn’t want to do the redirect myself due to this uncertainty, so I took it to AfD. There’s no way this article can be kept now, and I thought a bold redirect could be challenged, which Charlie proved. I can see that they think this article should be deleted. GrabUp - Talk 10:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Hanu-Man: Per WP:NFF and WP:TOOSOON. Charliehdb (talk) 11:08, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nitish Nirmal (actor) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Recreation of salted title: Nitish Nirmal, which was salted back in August. No immediate evidence of notability that I could find. CycloneYoris talk! 07:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: and Salt: The subject does not meet any notability criteria, the current sourcing is unreliable, no significant coverage sources were found during the search, and no significant roles in notable films, it fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. GrabUp - Talk 07:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Salt per both of the above, as it's just been speedy deleted G5. Completely non-notable, fails WP:NACTOR, and I could find only passing mentions of him for his minor roles. Wikishovel (talk) 16:06, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Good Glamm Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO and WP:ROUTINE. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. This AfD should be grouped with the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MyGlamm, as they both have similar promotional content. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 03:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- I don’t think this article should be deleted Hallowme (talk) 14:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I think the article meets WP:NCORP and WP:GNG standards. Reliable sources (WP:RS) such as Forbes India, The Hindu Business Line, Inc42, and Fortune India, along with other available sources, are sufficient to establish notability. Any issues with promotional language can be resolved through further editing. Baqi:) (talk) 10:08, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- MyGlamm (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO and WP:ROUTINE. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 03:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete I agree with the nominator that this company lacks significant coverage. Pages of other companies or brands under this group–POPxo, MissMalini.com, The Moms Co and BabyChakra–have similar issues, with none of them appearing individually notable. I wouldn't oppose a collective merge of all five pages to Good Glamm Group. Yuvaank (talk) 00:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO and WP:ROUTINE. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 02:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Looks rather promotional and lacking independent coverage to meet WP:CORP. LibStar (talk) 00:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Jairam Kumar Mahato (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NPOL even WP:BASIC. Baqi:) (talk) 10:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Not elected to any national or state office, this individual fails to meet WP:NPOL, and no multiple significant coverage sources were found, hence they do not meet WP:GNG. GrabUp - Talk 10:36, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, I created this article. Sorry to say that it could not meet the requirements but could you wait until 25 Nov 2024. This is my humble request to you to not till this article till this date. Genius64868 (talk) 17:15, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Genius64868: Can I know what’s the reason behind this?? GrabUp - Talk 17:17, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, In India the state of Jharkhand is going to conduct assembly elections and the result get out on 23 Nov 2024. So he contested for 2 seats of Giridih district of Jharkhand. And he most probably won both seats by 65 to 80 percent according to some India most dignified news media like India Times and The Hindu. So please wait till 25 November. Genius64868 (talk) 17:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Genius64868: In that case, you can create this article again. I don’t think we can wait that long; the AfD maybe closed and the result of this AfD may be declared on November 6. GrabUp - Talk 17:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- It my humble request please hold this account to that date or give any idea about incline citation to escape the following deletion. Genius64868 (talk) 17:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Genius64868: In that case, you can create this article again. I don’t think we can wait that long; the AfD maybe closed and the result of this AfD may be declared on November 6. GrabUp - Talk 17:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, In India the state of Jharkhand is going to conduct assembly elections and the result get out on 23 Nov 2024. So he contested for 2 seats of Giridih district of Jharkhand. And he most probably won both seats by 65 to 80 percent according to some India most dignified news media like India Times and The Hindu. So please wait till 25 November. Genius64868 (talk) 17:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Genius64868: Can I know what’s the reason behind this?? GrabUp - Talk 17:17, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, I created this article. Sorry to say that it could not meet the requirements but could you wait until 25 Nov 2024. This is my humble request to you to not till this article till this date. Genius64868 (talk) 17:15, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Not meeting political notability and simply founding a party or being an activist isn't notable. The sourcing isn't very helpful, the NBT article is more of a series of brief answers than an article about this person. Oaktree b (talk) 14:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, I created this article. Sorry to say that it could not meet the requirements but could you wait until 25 Nov 2024. This is my humble request to you to not till that article till this date. Genius64868 (talk) 17:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Launching a brand-new political party is not an automatic inclusion freebie under WP:NPOL, but this article is not referenced anywhere close to well enough to claim that he would pass WP:GNG for it. Bearcat (talk) 17:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, I created this article. Sorry to say that it could not meet the requirements but could you wait until 25 Nov 2024. This is my humble request to you to not till this article till that date. Genius64868 (talk) 17:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's not how Wikipedia works. People do not get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates in future elections. If he does win a seat on November 25, then that will become the time that an article about him can be created, but he does not get to have an article just for being a candidate — so it's not "create an article now and hold off on deleting it until after we know whether he wins or loses the election", it's "he has to win the election before an article can be created in the first place". Bearcat (talk) 20:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Robin Radhakrishnan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Promotional article created by a sock who was originally blocked for UPE. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Most of the sources are WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The last AFD opened by TheWikiholic was closed as no consensus. However the editors I'm tla and Rydex64 (page creator) who voted to keep the article have been blocked for socking and UPE. Thilsebatti (talk) 13:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
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Keepper Oaktree last time. I don't see any arguments against these sources... Aaron Liu (talk) 14:48, 29 October 2024 (UTC)- I'm being cited as a "voice of reason" if you will, glad my contributions here help. Oaktree b (talk) 18:54, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Striking this; now neutral because I do not know enough to evaluate Indian sources' connections to subjects. Aaron Liu (talk) 13:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Still a keep, with the same sources I cited in my last discussion. Oaktree b (talk) 18:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Per your arguments on the last AFD, [ [12] this is the only good source in the article. To establish GNG, we need atleast three such sources. The rest of the sources including the local ones are mostly paid. Also as pointed out by Mims Mentor, aside from being a well-known reality show contestant, the subject hasn't accomplished anything noteworthy enough to warrant an independent article. Thilsebatti (talk) 04:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Thilsebatti@Mims Mentor Is there some way we're supposed to find out whether a source is paid? Some here seem to be implying that the TOI articles are good but others say they're also paid.(Also, there's no set number to determine GNG, and my personal number is 2.) Aaron Liu (talk) 12:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Per your arguments on the last AFD, [ [12] this is the only good source in the article. To establish GNG, we need atleast three such sources. The rest of the sources including the local ones are mostly paid. Also as pointed out by Mims Mentor, aside from being a well-known reality show contestant, the subject hasn't accomplished anything noteworthy enough to warrant an independent article. Thilsebatti (talk) 04:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: The content in the article appears promotional as it primarily highlights achievements, accolades, and public recognition, seemingly aimed at enhancing the subject's image. Many of the sources cited resemble paid news articles, as indicated by WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Aside from a controversial elimination from a reality show, the article lacks any notable achievements, with the subject's popularity largely limited to a local fan base in Kerala.--Mims Mentor (talk) 17:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Very interesting. RSP says "Editors should ensure that they do not use paid advertorials" for TOI, so is there a way supposed to check for whether a specific article is paid? Aaron Liu (talk) 18:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Aaron Liu, Oaktree b. Most news articles from TOI and other reputable sources about the subject tend to have an "overly positive tone," catering primarily to fan-base entertainment. These references frequently emphasize the subject's role as a controversial contestant on a TV reality show, with little mention of any substantial achievements beyond that. This makes the content weak and unlikely to meet the WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG standards. Additionally, some references appear to be mere news versions of the subject’s social media posts, further weakening its credibility as independent sources.--Mims Mentor (talk) 13:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- But since "achievement" can be hard to determine, only the amount of unbiased coverage may determine notability. I am quite confused about Indian sources and paid coverage now. How can we determine whether a source is paid? Aaron Liu (talk) 13:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete:It is evident that the subject does not adhere to the WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR criteria. Only have some routine mentions, and the majority of sources are unreliable. Furthermore, a large number of the news stories have disclaimers without any bylines which means they are paid content. 111.92.70.85 (talk) 13:18, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sokudo Electric (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Promotional article from an SMM company using press releases, interviews, product and facility launches, and other announcements. No coverage in reliable sources. No coverage in independent reliable sources, fails GNG. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:10, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
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- hi, these coverages are all reliable, they are posted on reliable media sources like news medias, print magazines. please feel free to check all the links before making a decision. Pitchonepr SMM (talk) 07:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
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- at the very least Delete the sections of the article that are just listing products, but the article as a whole reads somewhat promotional. Gaismagorm (talk) 17:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
KeepLeaning keep. I cannot evaluate the reliability of most of the sources used in the article but some of them sources that look alright, like Rest of World and News18. The topic of the article seems notable. Jeraxmoira, are you saying that all of the sources are unreliable? Can you explain why you think so?
Needless to say all the promotional fluff that is not supported by sources or is supported only by the company's press releases should be removed. Alaexis¿question? 22:36, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- It looks like the proper process for dealing with the WP:COI has not been followed by Pitchonepr SMM, I urge them to disclose their conflict of interest immediately (full disclosure, I came here because asked me a question at my talk page). Alaexis¿question? 22:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Alaexis, the Rest of World article is an interview and the News18 article is a press release. They do not pass the WP:SIRS check that is conducted for articles about organizations and companies. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira, yeah, you're right about these two sources. And what about this piece? It seems to address the subject directly and in depth. Alaexis¿question? 22:05, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- That is a very good source with a byline and it also seems to be a magazine feature. But, I wouldn’t be okay with it, as it’s an interview that would fail the WP:SIRS check. i.e., it is not completely independent of the article subject. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've changed my !vote to Leaning Keep. I understand your points but still think that this topic is notable. Alaexis¿question? 08:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- That is a very good source with a byline and it also seems to be a magazine feature. But, I wouldn’t be okay with it, as it’s an interview that would fail the WP:SIRS check. i.e., it is not completely independent of the article subject. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira, yeah, you're right about these two sources. And what about this piece? It seems to address the subject directly and in depth. Alaexis¿question? 22:05, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Sources are mainly WP:CHURNALISM, WP:NEWSORGINDIA, routine announcements, or press releases. I originally saw the News18 reference as meeting WP:ORGCRIT, but based on the search link provided by Jeraxmoira, I see that it is also churnalism (similar to how TechCrunch does a lot of stories). --CNMall41 (talk) 20:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
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Not a G4, but no indication the issues raised at the prior AfDs have been addressed. A search is hard due to the name, but no indication of N:CORP. Star Mississippi 02:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep not sure why this page is nominated, when there are ample amount of third-party secondary sources cited for largest broker in India (Groww). Google search results easily show numerous articles with deep-dive into this unicorn's background, starting from getting funding form Y Combinator to moving past Zerodha and then to be awarded as 'Forbes India Leadership Award 2024' for Promising Startup.--Curvasingh (talk) 10:00, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Prior to me leaving a !vote, I am hoping you can point out the WP:THREE you feel meet the guidelines outlined in WP:ORGCRIT? I have started going through the references but there is a lot of churnalism and routine announcements so hoping as the creator you can point me in the right direction. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- CNMall41 There are many reliable sources but I will point out these sources to claim notability:
- Prior to me leaving a !vote, I am hoping you can point out the WP:THREE you feel meet the guidelines outlined in WP:ORGCRIT? I have started going through the references but there is a lot of churnalism and routine announcements so hoping as the creator you can point me in the right direction. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- 1 - https://www.forbesindia.com/article/take-one-big-story-of-the-day/how-four-exflipsters-built-groww-into-a-unicorn/70003/1
- 2 - https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/groww-looks-to-expand-offerings-11620581862097.html
- 3 - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/how-largest-stock-broking-platform-growws-tax-bill-and-loss-is-a-result-relocating-to-india/articleshow/114438709.cms
- 4 - https://www.forbesindia.com/article/leadership-awards-2024/groww-making-investing-as-easy-as-ecommerce/92089/1
- 5 - https://www.livemint.com/market/beyond-broking-what-next-for-groww-11700558808621.html
- 6 - https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/funding/online-investment-app-groww-raises-fresh-funds-led-by-tiger-valuation-jumps-to-1-billion/articleshow/81951257.cms
- 7 - https://www.businesstoday.in/markets/market-perspective/story/exclusive-groww-eyes-entry-into-indias-growing-cryptocurrency-market-308672-2021-10-06
- 8 - https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/i-went-to-the-only-english-medium-school-in-my-district-groww-ceo-lalit-keshre-11521811.html
--Curvasingh (talk) 02:13, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Groww is India's largest stock broker right now. There is no point in nominating this page for deletion. Saura376 (talk) 10:16, 4 November 2024 (UTC) — Saura376 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- Keep - Plenty of reliable sources covering the company. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Source assessment - Most of these sources were evaluated in the previous deletion discussion. However, I evaluated them a second time to either confirm that assessment or not.
- 1. Forbes India is not Forbes. It must be evaluated with care. This reference was previously assessed and I would agree with that assessment. The reference looks like it was written by the company itself based on the details information, quotes, and use of images and infographics that are promotional to the company.
- 2. LiveMint - I would not consider this source reliable at all. I can go to Fiverr or Upwork and pay to have my own article written for the publication. Not saying this one is, but do not trust a publication that doesn't always differentiate between paid press and organic press. If it is found to be reliable, this particular reference is similar to the Forbes India one above. Tons of quotes and graphics for the company.
- 3. Times of India - This is a reference published since the last AfD discussion. Clearly falls under WP:NEWSORGINDIA so not reliable.
- 4. Forbes India - This one is similar to the other Forbes India reference. However, the promotional tone appears to be from the publication's own research as to why the company won the award. It also appeared in print version so I would say this would be within the rhelm of ORGCRIT.
- 5. LiveMint - Same as 2.
- 6. Economic Times - Falls under NEWSORGINDIA. No byline and the first sentence starts with the location the news is coming from, indicating a press release or churnalism.
- 7. Business Today - Interview which would not meet ORGCRIT
- 8. Money Control - Same as LiveMint.
I can only see one source that would probably meet ORGCRIT. I also see a heavy push by SPA's and likely COI editors in the previous and current editing. If kept, the page will need cleaned up for NPOV. If deleted, salting may be in order to save time of volunteer editors. If anyone wants to discuss the individual sources assessed above please do so as I may have missed something and will gladly look at any additional information. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- CNMall41 Here is one article from Forbes, not Forbes India -> https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/investing/groww-vs-zerodha/ --Curvasingh (talk) 00:33, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- See WP:FORBESCON. Source is not usable for notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:50, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- CNMall41 There are many sources from the The Hindu also:
- CNMall41 Here is one article from Forbes, not Forbes India -> https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/investing/groww-vs-zerodha/ --Curvasingh (talk) 00:33, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- 1 - https://www.thehindu.com/business/groww-to-buy-indiabulls-mf-for-175-crore/article34537438.ece
- 2 - https://www.thehindu.com/business/investment-platform-groww-raises-30-million/article32574289.ece
- 3 - https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/growws-operating-revenue-jumps-to-2899-crore-infy24/article68709911.ece
- 4 - https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/groww-doubles-fy24-revenue-to-3145-cr-pays-1340-cr-in-domicile-taxes-for-flip-back/article68778755.ece
- 5 - https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/markets/groww-adds-a-million-active-traders-in-december-quarter/article67777170.ece
--Curvasingh (talk) 09:46, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Chandrashekar Bandiyappa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Procedural nomination. Contested Jimfbleak's WP:G11 deletion and reverted to a non-promotional revision. Potentially meets WP:DIRECTOR through his filmography. I would !vote weak keep, but I have no real opinion as I have not investigated this topic in any great detail. Anarchyte (talk) 08:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: A clear WP:DIRECTOR pass with 3 notable films that received critical attention. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:21, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. Passes WP:NFILMMAKER where all his films got multiple reviews in reliable sources. This page still needs lot of improvement made with better sources and more coverage on the career. RangersRus (talk) 15:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: If the three films have critical review, we should have enough to pass notability for film directors. Two films were also nominated for awards, helping notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:50, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Passes criteria four of WP:NFILMMAKER as having significant critical attention.
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- Keep: Clearly passes NDIRECTOR with 3 notable films. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 14:49, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 12:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
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- 'Commenthas a potential as over 100 mln downloads, and so on. WP NEXIST should be applied here before the final verdict. --NiftyyyNofteeeee (talk) 13:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Non-trivial coverage in Variety, Rest of World, and TechCrunch (meets RSP as being staff-written). Along with the sources in the article I think there's enough for WP:GNG. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 13:51, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- The rest of world article counts, but the other two are routine coverage of raised capital, no? (WP:CORPTRIV) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I was not aware of the detail in WP:CORPTRIV. If nothing else can be found it should probably be deleted, then. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 01:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:TECHCRUNCH may not fully meet RSP standards, even if written by a staff writer. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 02:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I was not aware of the detail in WP:CORPTRIV. If nothing else can be found it should probably be deleted, then. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 01:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- The rest of world article counts, but the other two are routine coverage of raised capital, no? (WP:CORPTRIV) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
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Keep the platform has demonstrated notability through its significant user base, international expansion, and coverage in reputable sources, establishing it as a notable player in the digital audio streaming industry --Moarnighar (talk) 11:12, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- To be considered notable on Wikipedia, it's not enough to be popular in terms of user base; there needs to be significant coverage from trustworthy and independent sources. If the coverage isn’t thorough or the sources aren't reliable, the platform's importance in the digital audio streaming industry might be exaggerated. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 02:51, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- James Drummond Anderson (1886–1968) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No refs on the page for many years. I haven't been able to WP:V the facts on the page and not seen much to suggest that this colonial administrator meets the notability standards for inclusion. I would be interested to hear what others can find. JMWt (talk) 13:05, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Subject lacks significant coverage to meet WP:Notability (People) Tesleemah (talk) 13:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment If as claimed, is a knight, would be notable under Wikipedia:Notability (awards and honors). Djflem (talk) 20:29, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep satisfies WP:ANYBIO criteria 1 (knighthood) and (essentially) 3 (portrait held at National Portait Gallery). Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 10:05, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- FWIW, references have now been added so that all information can be verified. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 19:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
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This is not a distinct phenomenon, but rather a local name for swell surge used in coastal Kerala, also known by various names in other parts of the world. Presenting it as a distinct phenomenon is scientifically inaccurate. Additionally, this is not the Malayalam Wikipedia. Per WP:CFORK, this is an unnecessary content fork. The Doom Patrol (talk) 13:50, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment Fair enough, and I agree that this would be better treated as a more general topic, but I note that Swell (ocean) does not actually contain the term "swell surge", and does not seem to cover this type of phenomenon. Thus more a case for rewriting and generalizing than for redirecting or deleting? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:36, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN. Looking at the listed films, I cannot see where he is mentioned on some and the others I do find him in are not supported by the sources used. A WP:BEFORE finds no significant coverage. There is also some FAKEREFerences used such as those for the awards. The one he apparently won does NOT show the award won, only lists his name as a nomination. CNMall41 (talk) 02:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep. He is the lyricist of many songs and found some articles (reliable like Gaana, some aren't) [13] [14] [15]. Add citation needed to the award in question. DareshMohan (talk) 02:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I cannot find a reference to support the award so a citation needed tag would not suffice. The other references are not reliable. The first is a redaction of what was posted on Instagram, the second is WP:NEWSORGINDIA, and the third is all quotes from the subject (it also shows a byline but posted by Odisha Diary Bureau which indicates it could be a paid placement - not assuming it is but not the strongest of sources). --CNMall41 (talk) 18:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete:It is evident that the subject does not adhere to the WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC criteria. From my research, only have some routine coverage and the majority of sources are not good enough. Furthermore, some of the few news stories available from internet have no bylines which means that they are mostly paid. 111.92.70.85 (talk) 13:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
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A promotional biography of a businesswoman fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. None of the sources constitute WP:SIGCOV. Also, Wikipedia is not a resume hosting site WP:NOTRESUME. Also, the entire page is dominated by company references, while her personal references are limited to either WP:ROUTINE or WP:ADMASQ. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 05:13, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment There has been some misleading promotionalism in this article: in Recognition it said "Forbes magazine named her as the 16th most powerful woman in Asia and the 4th in India in 2016", but she was listed 16th in a list which explicitly states "this list -- which is presented alphabetically and is not intended to be a ranking". (I've edited this). This suggests that all sourcing needs very careful checking. PamD 08:11, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - I’m not going to waste my time and yours with a detailed analysis of the made up in one day award and passing mentions. Suffice to say that she’s not notable. We’ve seen a lot of those pages, but in 2024 everyone knows we are not a free website listing everyone who runs a large business. Bearian (talk) 16:38, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep i am sorry but she is not the run of the mill businesswoman. She heads world’s one the largest textile companies. Forbes ranked her as the 16th most powerful woman in Asia. She has represented India at various international forums, including Harvard India and the World Economic Forum, and has chaired and served on the boards of major organizations. Agree with you and the page nomination about the promotional language in the article. Thus made significant improvements and removed promotional content/language and unnecessary sources and added more sigcov sources. There are lots of sources on google·Also created lawsuit for neutrality.she passes WP:GNG.Ashwithride (talk) 12:12, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Forbes lists her as the 16th, alphabetically, in a list of 50 most powerful women in Asia which explicitly says that it "is presented alphabetically and is not intended to be a ranking" (even if a Forbes India writer seems to misunderstand this). I corrected the statement in the "Recognition" section, but hadn't noticed that it was also misprepresented in the lead, which I have now corrected. The enthusiasm which some editors have for misrepresenting this listing makes one cautious about other claims, which should all be very carefully checked. PamD 13:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note that User:Ashwithride created the article and appears not to have edited any other articles in en.wiki since creating their account on 9 July 20204. PamD 13:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note that, in parallel, There was an attempt to remove controversies from Welspun Living's page on 13 February 2024, Welspun Corp's page got updated on 24 May 2024, Welspun Group name changed to Welspun World, and page got updated too on 12 June 2024; Dipali Goenka's page created on 10 July 2024, Welspun Enterprises' page created on 14 October 2024. Most of these pages are flagged for conflicts of interest, making it appear as if this year is especially focused on Welspun activity on Wikipedia. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Ashwithride added company-related information in Lawsuits, saying that the company was sued by American retailers for selling poor-quality products that were labeled as Egyptian cotton. However, there is not much detail provided on Dipali Goenka, and the cases were not directed at her. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 02:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete The creating editor has not replied to my question on their talk page a week ago as to whether they had COI, so it is difficult to WP:AGF that they have none, in view of their repeated misleading claim of "16th most powerful". PamD 06:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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Doesn't seem to be notable. I'm unable to find any coverage. Fails WP:BIO. --Ratekreel (talk) 13:19, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
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- @Ratekreel, When you nominated the article, at that time only two references were there in the article. Now number of references are 10+. All references are from national newspapers or books or authenticated government websites. Author have written many books, all can not be listed in the article. Two stories are base for two different bollywood films. Some work by the author is translated in multiple languages by well known authors and translators. Looking at these things, article should not be deleted. There are some research articles which are clearly comparing author's work with Premchand, which is also like an award for Hindi writers. ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 09:04, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - a made up in one day award for a writer who has gotten coverage - but in unreliable sources. The India Times was once a good source, but now it’s deprecated. The added sources are a wall of puffery. Bearian (talk) 15:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
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