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I revised the Vitamin C article and added the citation I had proposed, to support the first/first DYK. Will you be returning to the evaluation? David notMD (talk) 01:15, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah, I was wondering whether you could take a quick look at this as soon as possible: it's a newly added special occasion hook for Epiphany, which means it would need to go into Prep 4, an already full set, displacing one of the hooks there. Since I gave it the tick, I can't do anything further, and Cwmhiraeth suggested ALT1 after I asked for her thoughts on her talk page, which locks her out. With luck, Prep 4 won't have been promoted to queue before you see this... Please be sure I haven't forgotten anything in the review. (Going to add something I realized I forgot now.) Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:50, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
It looks like I started my expansion count after the November 15 revision rather than before it, hence the lower starting size. I guess I didn't think that one was of note, whereas the others were; I'm not sure in retrospect why I took that view. (I've posted this here since the template has been closed.) Thanks for taking care of this. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:02, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah, have the most recent edits satisfied the issues raised, or is there still more work to do? When you have a chance, please stop by and post an update. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:28, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Haazinu
Perhaps you can help me: I am in the process of expanding psalms, beginning with Psalm 149. Looking for where it's mentioned I found Haazinu. Hard for me to tell what of that could go to the psalm article, - ideas welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:30, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt:Haazinu itself has nothing to do with Psalm 149; it is one of the weekly Torah portions. The section in the Haazinu article that mentions Psalm 149 is talking about the 10 songs of the Scriptures, and is using Psalm 149:1 to reference the tenth song—a "new song" that will be sung in the future. Quoting this verse to reference the tenth song is the opinion of the Jewish Publication Society source, as far as I can see. Other sources quote Psalms 96:1 and Psalms 98:1 for the "new song". Personally, I don't think you need to worry about what's written in the Haazinu article. Best, Yoninah (talk) 22:04, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
I am now (that I found other ways to make the 5*) just curious. Three psalms have the "new song", but only 149 has the Saints idea which gives it a more "future" aspect, afaik. Thank you. The psalms are my project for 2018 (loosely one per week), - they are in a deplorable state. Help always welcome. Anything you'd miss for this one? Will nominate now, and later try a guide of what a psalm article should have. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: I'm not sure about the difference between the 3 psalms, but as the Psalm 149 article notes, that psalm is recited every morning in its entirety in the Jewish morning prayer. (The citation for that is a siddur text; I could look for a better reference for you.) If you want to try to find more information on the psalms from a religious rather than a scholarly perspective, try searching on "Tehillim (number)" (the Hebrew word for Psalms). Good luck, Yoninah (talk) 22:16, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
I'm now looking at Psalm 84, expanded enough for DYK, needs refs, and I'd like an image. Any help welcome. What of pistacia lentiscus]] would you take over? A Hebrew/English translation is in the external links. A bit confusing that the instructions seem to be counted as a verse in Hebrew, while most others start numbering with the text, - which I followed as it's "our" wikisource. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:29, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
I don't understand why the first verse of Psalm 84 isn't included in the translation. In Judaism, we say every verse – see here. The first verse is often an instruction by David to the conductor of the Levite singers in the Temple in Jerusalem, telling them which instrument to use. In this case, he tells them to play the psalm on the gittit – and Jewish commentaries like ArtScroll's Tehillim series explain why this instrument was selected. It also doesn't make sense to leave off the first verse in the translation because the verse numbers under the "Judaism" section don't correspond anymore.
Regarding the write-up in Bakkah, I would just delete that. It looks like OR. "Valley of Baca" in Hebrew can also be translated "Valley of Weeping". Yoninah (talk) 22:40, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Vale of tears is already linked ;) - Learning, thank you. Augustine of Hippo misunderstood gittit as winepress, and wrote A Lot about that. What would you suggest for a clarification of the different numbering of the verses. We do it already for the psalms, - not this one but many others are one off. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:49, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
No, not yet, that's great! I still looked at music. Plenty more music up to 2005, if we want - but women first. I have several planned starting tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:59, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Do you think you could flesh out the section about Jewish usage, by copying a bit from the linked articles. At present it is a list of unfamiliar terms, yes linked, but too many, I feel. - GA reviewer's wish. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! - Traveling, will be Monday or later before I can look at DYK with the everlasting problem that articles from German don't come with inline citations, but book sources I can't access. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Shimon Lavi
On 10 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Shimon Lavi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that 16th-century kabbalistShimon Lavi displayed knowledge of alchemy in his commentary on the Zohar? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Shimon Lavi. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Shimon Lavi), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Yes, it's fine because he died in 1947. What I've done is to put the links to the pages through the Wayback Machine so it won't be lost even if the page disappears from where it now is on the internet. Would suggest you use the Wayback Machine links for the file information
I'm having trouble getting the Rabbi's photo to show up individually when I try taking the link for it off the Makarov page, so it might be best to stay with the PDF link for proof for the photo.
I'd use {{Non-free historic image}} as the non-free license. If you need help with getting the photo, just let me know. ;) We hope (talk) 22:48, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
@We hope: Great! Thank you for archiving these. I'm having trouble isolating the portrait image on the PDF to save it for upload; the whole page saves instead. Yoninah (talk) 23:40, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Want me to do it and I'll leave you a link ? Since this is non-free, I'll need to put the photo on the article to keep over-eager taggers away. ;) I just cut a copy from the PDF so it's in the bag, so to speak. :-D We hope (talk) 23:48, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, I haven't been around DYK in a bit, so I'd forgotten a few things. I've fixed your concerns, do you think you could revisit the QPQs for articles I nominated? ceranthor23:07, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
I don't know if you could model the translation after that of the Latin, and then match. I don't even know if the Hebrew has "A song of ascent" or starts right with the cry? - In psalms, a line is often subdivided, and I made one to two separate lines, to get it more narrow and hopefully match Latin/English bit by bit even on smaller devices. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt:, I'm sorry, this is the extent of my technological knowledge. Perhaps you could ask another editor to lay it out better. Psalm 130 is one of the 15 "Songs of Ascent" (Shir Hamaalot) and those first two words are definitely part of the psalm, at least in the original Hebrew. Yoninah (talk) 20:51, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Ok, let's leave the original Hebrew as it is, run-on. But perhaps you could match transliteration and translation?
Hebrew
Shir hama'alot mima'amakim keraticha adonai
Adonai shimah vekoli tiyena oznecha kashuvot lekol tachanunai
Im avonot tishmor ya adonai mi yaamod
Ki imcha haslicha lemaan tivare
kiviti adonai kivta nafshi velidvaro hochalti
Nafshi ladonai mishomrim laboker shomrim laboker
Yachel yisrael el adonai ki im adonai hachesed veharbeh imo fedut
Vehu yifdeh et yisrael mikol avonotav.
Translation
A song of ascents.
From the depths I have called You, O Lord.
O Lord, hearken to my voice; may Your ears be attentive to the voice of my supplications.
O God, if You keep [a record of] iniquities, O Lord, who will stand?
For forgiveness is with You, in order that You be feared.
I hoped, O Lord; yea, my soul hoped, and I wait for His word.
My soul is to the Lord among those who await the morning, those who await the morning.
Israel, hope to the Lord, for kindness is with the Lord and much redemption is with Him.
And He will redeem Israel from all their iniquities.
Can you play with it, getting the beginnings of the eight verses to match the English? I wonder about the repetition of "those who await the morning". Hebrew seems a much more compact language ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: OK, I'll work on it some more, but I'm signing off now. BTW those words are deliberately repeated in the Hebrew. When I recite this psalm, the language is very moving. Yoninah (talk) 21:14, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Very moving, indeed. I turned to it today in memory of a friend of whose death I learned 2 years ago today. Rutter set them, in his Requiem, with a cello solo beginning in very low register, then the altos pick it up, - that includes me. We sang the German premiere, they now say. (It wasn't sure enough when we did.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:24, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
In general
I started to collect things to look for when you write about a psalm, here. Feel free to add! It's only a beginning. I started work on Psalm 103 today, but again, just a beginning. Some English hymn titles were so strange that I commented them out, - need to check, perhaps tomorrow. - As for Psalm 130: take a look at German, they have a table for the translation that we can perhaps adapt. How about 3 columns: verse no. - original Hebrew - KJV English? We could have the transliteration in prose, no? - I notice that numbering may be different in Hebrew and English? ----Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
I have given a tweak to the hook referring to the above, please notify me if the tweak is inappropriate as you are clearly far more conservant with this topic than me. Gatoclass (talk) 11:14, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
On 22 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Margaret L. Curry, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that before Margaret L. Curry introduced vocational training and education for women prisoners in Colorado, their only activity was washing and ironing the clothes of the male prisoners? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Margaret L. Curry. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Margaret L. Curry), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 23 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Yehuda Liebes, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Israeli scholar Yehuda Liebes claims that the central prayer of the Jewish liturgy includes an allusion to Jesus? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Yehuda Liebes. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Yehuda Liebes), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hey, thanks for your careful review of my recent nomination to DYK. I really appreciate that you took the time to look at the sources I provided. Your suggestions to the article were good as well! Keep up the good work! ―Biochemistry🙴❤02:11, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Regarding changing the hook, I would have liked to have been a part of the discussion regarding the hook. I completely disagree with your reasoning that people wouldn't know about the American South and presume that the DeadSouthwouldn't be based in that area. Again, while I appreciate your efforts, communication would have been super-duper helpful. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 22:16, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
DYK prep sets
Just letting you know that I will be away from home and my internet access for the next couple of days and will be unable to promote any hooks to prep. I have filled a couple of extra prep sets in preparation, and will be happily unaware of any faults that are found with them! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:09, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Feburary 2018 at Women in Red
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Yoninah, thanks for promoting my Cider with Rosie nomination earlier today. I'm confused about how things work now. For instance, this nomination has hung around for weeks and seems to be going nowhere, but I have others outstanding too. Do things work much more slowly than they used to when I was more active? Moonraker (talk) 15:58, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
@Moonraker: yes, promotions are happening much slower because only two or three people are actually doing them. Until recently we were also running 8 hooks every 24 hours; now we are running 16 hooks every 24 hours to try to reduce the backlog. There are even older nominations than yours waiting to be promoted. I did see your hook and image when I was building a prep set this week, but chose a different (and earlier) one for the image slot. Be patient; it'll get promoted eventually. Yoninah (talk) 23:41, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah, thanks for explaining that, it sounds like a good way to clear the backlog. I have some thoughts on why the number of volunteers has gone down, but I guess you are there before me. Keep up the good work! Moonraker (talk) 06:19, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
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Yoninah, I was wondering whether you would be willing to take a look at this nomination, and perhaps review the hook in terms of hookiness/interest. The nomination's over two months old, and has been pulled once already; we want to avoid a second pulling. Many thanks for anything you can do to get this moving. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:52, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Mistake on J.W. Harris DYK
I have a feeling you won't look at the nom anymore and I had to correct a big mistake I made there. Regardless of whether you do or do not work on my DYK noms anymore, I can't let you go away thinking that I was calling out all of your edits. No what I meant (and added to the edit I made) was that I couldn't see any where in other articles was that you called out or tagged anyone else for tone or story telling. Just those, not all of your edits. That would be highly untrue and unfair. I would never do that. Of course you make edits across the board to all of your DYKs that you made to mine. I understand completely why that would upset you so much and it's not something I would intentionally do. It was a mistake. When you said did I have diffs, I was confused until I realized I left out the part about it being just the tone and story. So regardless of what happens going forward, you make excellent edits in general to improve articles, and I apologize to put you through that, it was not my intent. Any editor would get upset and rightfully so. dawnleelynn(talk)17:39, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
@Zigzig20s: Hi, your nomination and QPQ both look good. I formatted the hooks; didn't you use the template when you created the hooks? You don't have to insert "DYK" at the beginning of each hook, but there should be an ellipsis there instead. Since you're nominating 2 articles, you need 2 QPQs. Best, Yoninah (talk) 23:19, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
It's the mostly the same problem: German articles rely on books, in English we want inline citations. In this case, can you use the German books? I can't help with them, no access, and also I'm on vacation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Is there any chance we could feature her picture or would you like me to find another one we can use? Or are you opposed to having her featured as the lead hook? — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 13:16, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
@Coffee: I'm not opposed to using her picture, but I didn't like the one in the article. This headshot is much better, especially at thumbnail size. If you can put it in the article, I'll move it to the next prep's image slot, which will feature on the last day of February. Best, Yoninah (talk) 16:03, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
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Women's History Month 2018
I have created Disappearance of Suzanne Lyall and nominated it for DYK with, as so often, the intention of getting it on the Main Page for its 20th anniversary on Friday evening (Queue 5 would be, as I indicated, the best timing-wide). Do you think you could help again here, as you have so many times before?
@Daniel Case: All done. It's interesting that the parents managed to accomplish so much. I hope the hook pulls people in. Do you get your ideas for all these missing persons cases from watching Disappeared, or from the local paper? Yoninah (talk) 20:26, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Disappeared is a source that helps establish notability, yes, but the Unresolved Mysteries subreddit is also a good place to learn about these stories (Consider that Brian Shaffer's disappearance has not been on the show, but it's also gotten enough coverage (perhaps due to the unusual circumstance of him being the only person known to have vanished after walking in to a bar) to justify an article.
I got started on this a few years ago after reading a Longform selection with links to four of these stories. A while back I'd written the very interesting Disappearance of Sneha Anne Philip after reading the New York article about her case that's a primary source in the article, and I was happy with that, so I thought, why not write some of these? Two of them I used as the basis for articles here that I found could be timed to significant anniversaries (i.e. 10 or less, and every fifth year thereafter), which I thought (and now know, even before last weekend ) would increase the hit count): Lloyd Gaines (notable in his own right as the petitioner in a key early civil rights case heard by the U.S. Supreme Court), and Rebecca Coriam (which was for a long time my all-time hit champion). I looked around, and I found there were a lot more interesting stories to tell that were notable (I also feel that when people are looking around for information, having it all in one place near the top of the Google hits helps; but of course that's a benefit of Wikipedia in general) so I began planning to tell them on their anniversaries. As far as I know none of the articles I've written have helped solve cases, but that's OK. People elsewhere on the Internet accept them as the best resource, and that's what we should all really want. Daniel Case (talk) 22:38, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
And again ...
I'd like for Waterloo (blog post) to be on DYK next Wednesday, both the eighth anniversary of the post itself and the day the Affordable Care Act passed; I nominated it a couple of days ago but so far no one has reviewed it, and I think today would be enough lead time to get it into Queue 6 (which is March 22 UTC but March 21 for the US, which makes it relevant). Could you, once again, help out? Daniel Case (talk) 17:07, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Second Purim
On 1 March 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Second Purim, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that hundreds of Jewish communities used to celebrate more than one Purim a year? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Second Purim. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Second Purim), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hey, thanks very much for the review of the DYK. I'm a little confused re use of the template that you mention. The Taboo article was created some months ago, and I built up both at about the same time so I wasn't sure how to deal with it in that template, which I've never utilized before. Can you help me with that? tx, Coretheapple (talk) 21:28, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
@Coretheapple: the template is very tricky. I'll follow the directions there and add the template to the talk pages for you. Just to let you know that in future, you need to add this template whenever you copy material from one article to the next in Wikipedia. Best, Yoninah (talk) 21:30, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah, I was wondering whether you could look into promoting this one, since Cwmhiraeth gave it its final tick and can't. It's over three months old, and the last hook remaining from November 2017. Thanks for whatever you feel you can do. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:32, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Re: Frankfurt Opera, - I don't know where the clumsy and all-German article name came from, which speaks of houses, built after World War II. The article is much more about the company from its beginning. I'm just too lazy to try to get it moved, also still licking my wounds from trying to move The Flying Dutchman. The common name for the company in English is Frankfurt Opera. - Thanks for what you do about the women-related articles. - I nominated Psalm 84 for DYK, but it needs a few more refs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your tireless efforts in improving new pages like the ones I and my students have nominated for DYK, like Elizabeth Kane! I've been trying to learn from your edits how I can improve as an editor. I also feel bad for a few of my DYK reviews that you found problems with after they passed... so if you have advice on things to watch for I'm all ears! Otherwise I will simply continue to be amazed (and hopefully learn from?) by all the improvements you make :-). Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:33, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
@Rachel Helps (BYU): I use Earwigs Copyvio Detector and click on the first few references to manually check for copying. If there are problems with copyvio, I continue checking down the list. Sometimes books and other references aren't included in Earwigs but are accessible by clicking on the reference in the article, so I do it that way. Does that help you? Yoninah (talk) 18:51, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
On 8 March 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mary Ann Kerwin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mary Ann Kerwin, co-founder of La Leche League, said that when breastfeeding in the US in the 1950s, "we would practically smother our babies with blankets to avoid showing any breast"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Ann Kerwin. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mary Ann Kerwin), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
My edit to the article which added a source (a DVD) was removed since it apparently was not a reliable source. Could you please clarify how the source is not reliable? The source is of a DVD of a voice-actor hosted variety program, and according to Japanese sources I checked, Lynn appears in it and mentions her ethnic background in the program (the program is also used as a source in her Japanese article). The source was not the website itself, it was only a URL to a link that sold the DVD, to verify that it exists. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew01:41, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: It is my understanding that a vendor's website is not a reliable source for this type of information. If you referred to the DVD itself, similar to videos that are posted on YouTube, then that could be considered reliable. Yoninah (talk) 01:23, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Are you really going to use the picture of that cat Yoninah? Even the museum say "Whether this particular stuffed cat is the famous survivor from Sebastopol is debatable as it was bought at Portobello Road market by Lady Compton Mackenzie in the 1950s." (real thing died 1856). Instead of (pictured) it should say (probably not pictured). Philafrenzy (talk) 23:11, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
@Philafrenzy: There seemed to be 2 points of view in the review. But you're right; I'll take yours as the 3rd opinion ;). I'll move it out of the image slot. Yoninah (talk) 23:18, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah, I'm starting to go through DYK nominations from late last year that were stranded or never transcluded, and cam across this one from the latter category. It was apparently nominated by the course instructor (the "Women in Medicine" course) on December 5 after one of the students in the course did a major expansion on November 30. It occurred to me that the article might be appropriate for Women's History Month, but the nomination doesn't even have a hook in it, and based on the section headers and skimming a few sentences, I'm worried about an encyclopedic and neutral tone.
Please let me know what you think we should do with this one; I can simply close the nomination if it would require too much work to bring to the necessary quality to run at DYK. The actual article is Esther Chapa. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 16:59, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: I edited the page, removing a lot of cruft and tangential information and trying to focus just on her life. There's a lot of biographical information missing. I see that Chapa has received a fair amount of coverage in English-language publications, but I don't have any interest in expanding the article. It's not ready for DYK. Yoninah (talk) 23:52, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah, thank you so much for wading into this one, and making the article less crufty. At this point, after the trim, it's about 2.4x, so based on your assessment of it not being ready and the amount of work that would be needed, I'm going to close the nomination. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:12, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah, there's a new ALT4 that may solve the various problems with earlier hooks. Can you please take a look when you get the chance? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:24, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Sorry Yoninah, but it has just been pointed out to me that the 70th anniversary isn't until 5 July 2018. The hook could be changed to "year of 70th anniversary". Philafrenzy (talk) 17:35, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Pinging
Yoninah, you added a belated ping template to Template:Did you know nominations/Shapira Scroll, but unfortunately, it didn't work. Pinging, whatever template is used (or even just a wikilink to the user), is only done when that same edit includes a new user sig from the person doing the pinging (I think the tildes are required, but I've never tested that part of it).
A post has subsequently been made to the editor's talk page, but I thought you'd want to know about this requirement for pings to be successful, so yours all work going forward. Thanks for pursuing incomplete reviews; it's important work. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:56, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Sam and Betty Dubiner
I am hoping that you or @Big iron and Eddie891: can help with sources for Betty Dubiner and her husband Samuel Dubiner. I find virtually nothing about her until the couple moved to Israel from Canada. He is notable as well, at one time he was known as the Yo-Yo King of Canada[3], apparently had something to do with the Hollywood film industry,[4], started one of the first industrial factories in Israel [5], and then opened an art gallery and donated his art collection to establish museums in Tel Aviv [6]. I am wondering if there are any sources in Hebrew which would help flesh out her biography, and if anyone is interested in writing one for him? SusunW (talk) 23:04, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you both. No rush, just would be nice to figure out how she spent the first 40 years of her life. SusunW (talk) 14:23, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
This's what I got for Sam. "In commerce and industry, Canadian Sam Dubiner introduced plastics and cardboard packaging material to the early state, establishing 28 Cargal factories and putting Israel on the export map."--[1] In respects to yo-yos, "there was a registered trade mark in the name of Dubiner"-- [2] Elsewhere, "Sam Dubiner (1914-1994) Sam Dubiner was extremely active as a businessman in Israel after he and his wife, Betty (see above), moved to Israel in 1950. In 1949, he had built the first approved enterprise by a foreign investor in Israel — a factory that began producing precision tools and dies in B'nei-Brak. Dubiner subsequently opened numerous other industries, such as Zinkal, Jerusalem Pencils, Jerusalem Ball Point Pens, Amgo Containers, and the Kalit Wire Factory."-- [3] There was a " "Dubiner Dispute" A great deal of time at the conference's closing sessions was taken up by the "Dubiner dispute". Mr. Sam Dubiner, who manufactures packing cartons for many goods, including citrus, has for several months been fighting a..." --[4] founded jerusalem pencils when there "came about when schools had to be closed because there weren't any pencils available. Sam turned to his friends and business colleagues, the Hassenfeld Family in the States, and convinced them to loan' him their in-house expert to help in setting up the factory which Sam financed in full. The cornerstone-laying ceremony for Jerusalem Pencils took place in 1950, and six months later Sam was proud to invite the Hassenfelds to the opening ceremony." co-founser, Cargal Cartons, which "Cargal cartons were used for on-the-spot delivery of provisions and equipment to the Israel army, during the Sinai war. Even where parachutes failed to open, contents arrived undamaged."[5] I'm genuinely stumped here. Eddie891'screature20:29, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
References
^They made a difference: [Independence Day Supplement Edition] (Jerusalem Post)
^The Need for Speed: The Consequences of Delay in Canadian Trade-mark Cases
Eddie891 Sam was born on 13 March 1914 to Rebecca (nee Hoffman) and Max Dubiner in Canada. Photo is usable as is over 70 years old per Brazilian copyright.[9] Did he naturalize as an American??? [10] And yes, I am totally stumped as to why more information about them cannot be found in Canada. Maybe there is a Canadian newspaper archive somewhere (I checked both newspapers.com and newspaperarchive, but got very few hits)? Yoninah I saw her article, but most of the information in the article is not in the only two sources given. There aren't many web articles about her, but there were some books in Hebrew I found, but obviously cannot read them. Wasn't aware that he had an article on he.wiki, but trying to look at the sources given there, all are in Hebrew and not in a format which I could put through my various translation programs. Going to require someone with knowledge of the language, I am sure. Thanks to you both. Interesting power couple. SusunW (talk) 21:07, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
SusunW: Found this here. Concerned about the reliability, but it might be a good starting point. Also, " Sam "Yo-Yo" Dubiner made Israel his home and became the driving force behind a variety of enterprises such as Amgo containers, B'nei Brak precision tools, the Cargal factory, Injection plastic products, Jerusalem Pencils, Kalit wires, and Zinkal irrigation pipes. He was also one of the founders of the Foreign Investors' Association and one of the purchasers of Japhet Bank." Eddie891'screature21:28, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Major League Baseball Authentication Program
Something really sticks out about your changes to the article.
The centerpiece of the system is a tamper-proof hologram adhesive which carries its own individual alphanumeric code.
The glue has a code? The glue _is_ a hologram?
'Adhesive' is a glue that you use to stick this to that. The adhesive is what goes between the addition and the base material. In the original text the word 'sticker' was used. If you think that word is too confusing, link it? Shenme (talk) 01:00, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
@Yoninah: Hey there. Thanks for your contributions on George Town's DYK nomination. But I do require some help with the article at the moment. It is now listed for GA reassessment due to issues regarding a lack of sources, basic and unprofessional prose, and several lists and tables that aren't entirely appropriate for a main article (and should be moved to appropriate sub-articles).
Could you kindly help out on this by checking on this article as thoroughly as you can? I feel that this article has what it takes to be a GA. Any form of assistance on this is highly appreciated. Thanks. Vnonymous (talk) 09:03, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
@Vnonymous: to be honest, I get very stressed out by GA reviews and don't nominate too many of my own articles for that reason. Perhaps you could apply for help at WP:GOCE? Yoninah (talk) 00:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Fixing pings
Yoninah, unfortunately, you can't fix a ping by just editing the ping template; pings aren't made unless the edit also involves adding a sig. Since all you did on the DYK talk page was change Snuggums to SNUGGUMS, the ping still won't register. Sorry about that. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:09, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah, this is one of only two nominations remaining that was approved back in February, so it's been waiting a very long time, and it's one that Cwmhiraeth cannot promote because she nominated it. Any chance of you including it, potentially as a lead hook (as it's a three-article hook with a nice picture) when you get the chance? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:21, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: yes, I've had my eye on that for a lead image. Thanks for the reminder. I'm waiting for someone to promote some of the preps so we have prep sets to work with. Yoninah (talk) 19:10, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I know we've we've talked about this before, but to be honest - things are back to front if I (an admin) am populating the DYK queues and asking you (a non-admin) for advice, and you have to ping me (or another admin) so the prep areas are free. Surely this should be the other way round? I know RfA can be "a week in hell" but 331dot and Cordless Larry passed without too much difficulty recently, and I think both of them were apprehensive about running for ages. Seriously, if you don't get 200 supports I will buy a hat just so I can eat it. Ritchie333(talk)(cont)15:18, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
I completely agree. Although the unnecessary drama that comes with adminship is difficult to avoid and unappealing, the DYK project can only be much better if you are willing to take the mop (unless if Orlady is willing to return, one can only hope). But in either case, it can only be for the best. I will eat a hat anyway if you are willing to run! Alex Shih (talk) 15:57, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
@Ritchie333:@Alex Shih: thanks for the words of encouragement, but I really am happy editing and promoting articles for DYK. Things would certainly improve if some of the administrators who worked here in the past would return. I think we should all work on getting rid of DYK's stressful and accusatory atmosphere to lure them back. I've had a few dealings with WP:Women in Red, and the difference in stress level between them and DYK is like night and day. Yoninah (talk) 20:43, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
Happening on this thread by chance, I agree with Ritchie and Alex Shih that Yoninah would pass an RfA easily. However if adminship meant that she stopped promoting hooks to prep sets, DYK would be the loser because not enough people are doing this. I also think that the atmosphere at DYK is much more pleasant these days now that there is less recrimination and finger pointing. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:11, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
I have to say I only did some work on the DYK queues because nobody else was doing it; it's not my main area of interest (hence throwing a bunch of pulled hooks on DYK talk, saying "I don't know what to do with these, but IMHO they need more work" :-/) For what it's worth, although we have precious little data to go on, RfA seems to be a more constructive and civil place these days; even amongst those that failed. There are still one or two people that stick a spanner in the works, but the community knows who they are and deal with them as and when required. Ritchie333(talk)(cont)11:01, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
I came back from a break to make this suggestion myself, and found this here. Wikipedia would be a better place for handing you a mop, and I don't see any reason you wouldn't pass RFA. I'd be willing to nominate you, though I'm sure you have several better qualified folks who would be willing too. If the unpleasantness of many admin areas is what makes you reluctant, I'd add that whenever a certain venue gets too vitiated for me, I run back to content creation; and I've avoided getting seriously jaded, after 18 months. Give it a thought! Cheers, Vanamonde (talk) 13:55, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
I also encourage this. Becomming an admin does not mean that you are suddenly required to work in areas in which you are uncomfortable, or have no interest. Your DYK work alone is reason enough to clearly demonstrate handing you the tools would improve the encyclopedia. 78.26(spin me / revolutions)14:34, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Currently in Prep 5 are Flag of the British South Africa Company and Patricia Lovett. I originally promoted the former without its image and then had some discussion on my talk page with the creator about the use of the image. Today I promoted the latter without its image, which I thought was a pity. There are several other old hooks with good images waiting to be promoted when slots become available. I'm not sure that flag articles should be guaranteed an image slot in the way that an article about a work of art would. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
@Cwmhiraeth: Noted. But I thought it was time for something different in the image slot. If you like, we can move Patricia Lovett ahead to another prep set when one becomes available. Things are moving very slowly in queue promotion. Yoninah (talk) 11:20, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
@Cwmhiraeth: also, three of the four previous sets were headed by a U.S.-based image hook, so I thought it was time for something different. I'm promoting Patricia Lovett to the image slot in Prep 6 and closing the nomination for you. Yoninah (talk) 11:22, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, that's fine. We really ought to move to two prep sets a day because the backlog is building up so much but I hesitate to suggest it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:33, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Edit conflict: "I hope you won't get into trouble because it wasn't at the actual ceremony in Frankfurt Cathedral (where she sang but Mozart didn't conduct) but a concert as part of the festivities." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:20, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes, you understood. You also understood that Henze wrote 18 string parts in his double concerto, but the critics changed it, and never changed back (or at least apologized) when I added a book source to the score. The same critics may come and say it's not "the coronation", or "Mozart didn't conduct the coronation". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:49, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah, I was wondering whether you could return to your review and respond to the post by the nominator, in the hopes of getting this nomination moving again. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:34, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Since you helped me with the DYK, could you please take a look at these edits and possibly revert some of them? The edit summaries are very aggressive and assume zero good faith whatsoever. They have deleted the reference from the American Thinker and dismissed it as "crackpot", but if there is a Wikipedia article about it, it's not. Besides, it was approved for DYK.Zigzig20s (talk) 04:25, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
I think the reference should be restored. They seem to lack a basic understanding of how Wikipedia works--we relay content from sources; we don't create new content. I also don't see how factual content like someone's father-in-law could "smear" anyone--this is ridiculous.Zigzig20s (talk) 11:05, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for restoring the reference. Of course, if we can find a better one later, we can always improve it. The new subhead ("political family profile") still looks undue to me--it is standard to add referenced info about a spouse's family in the "personal life" section.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:57, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
thanks for article on my great grandfather. i added a few items that are meaningful to me that his children told me or i've seen in articles while at my dad's or at the jewish campus. i don't have all the original dates of the articles handy at the moment and they were cutouts that my grandfather obm saved in a scrapbook. i could not figure out how to even add citations, so i need to learn that. my best at the moment would to add these points to the article i have at kehuna page and use that as a citation. thanks for your making this public in his memory. if you can be of help to add citations kahanovich@yahoo.ca for direct contact. Jkahanov770 (talk) 12:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for adding and explaining. Psalm 100 text next? (I forgot it's mentioned on the Main page today, was busy with another singer, female of course ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: I added the Hebrew and English to Psalm 100. Are you going to be adding the King James Version? I wonder if I should start at the top and put in the Hebrew/English for all the Psalms? (Also, the use in Judaism is often lacking.) Best, Yoninah (talk) 18:45, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes and yes ;) - I will add KJV, and having the text is a good idea, at least for the shorter ones. (If you look at my user page, you'll find the ones I touched so far, chosen because they appeared in some context. If you are brave, you could also go from 1 to 151, - I was surprised there's such a thing. - I suggested Psalm 269 for DYK, and they didn't find that funny ;) ) - The sources are in the template at the bottom, but I doubt that readers will normally find that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:58, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, his website is a source of delight ;) - he combined some textg from 148 and a bit from 121, about lifting the eyes to the mountains. Those two should be included in our choices also, and 103, for memories of a wedding of friends, who got verse 2 for their way together, - a very wise choice of an old minister who had already baptized the bride. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:17, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for work to critique articles that have are submitted for review and for their opportunity to be mentioned in the DYK section of Wikipedia’s Main Page. I have often wondered why reviewers don't get the accolades for their work since they often put in more time and effort than even the content creators. The effort needed to participate in this area of Wikipedia is significant. I don't think most other editors realize what a service you are doing to help showcase new, expanded or recently promoted GA articles. What you do is an incentive for new editors and an experienced editors to continue to improve and create content. By putting your time into the review process, you . highlight the variety of information on Wikipedia. I find my curiosity piqued by the DYSs. You do a great job and help me gain insight into the range of topics that Wikipedia covers. I’ve gone through the process myself a number of times and sometimes it’s not as easy as it looks. You’ve put in the time and effort to improve content and you deserve recognition and appreciation.
Hi Yoninah, thanks for your response, but I think I should also apologize for overreacting last night. I saw your post just before I logged off, feeling very tired and irritable after a marathon 2 1/2 hour session verifying sets and searching for a replacement hook for the one I pulled, and your comment just pushed me over the edge. What I should have done was log off and come back and reply the next day, but I guess I'd just run out of patience at that point.
You were, of course, fully entitled to notify me of my omission in not returning the nomination to the nomination page, as you had no way of knowing that I keep track of the hooks I pull to ensure they don't fall off the radar. And please continue to hold me to account whenever you think I have slipped up - I make mistakes and need occasional reminders just like everybody else. Thanks again for all the hard work you do at DYK, goodness knows what would happen to the project if we didn't have people like you and Cwm to keep things on track. Gatoclass (talk) 17:16, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
@Philafrenzy: like I said, I'm trying to be impartial here :) But I didn't think any of the images were clear enough at thumbnail size. Personally, I think you should do more with the hook. Yoninah (talk) 23:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
OK, I seem to have missed "undefiled by even the shadow of an infidel". I have been busy recently. That would have been good. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:13, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes thanks if you think it has a good shot at the picture slot. I think the picture actually does work quite well as a thumb as the stance of the central character draws the eye. I am thinking " that in 19th century London, residents of the Strangers' Home for Asiatics, Africans and South Sea Islanders were "undefiled by even the shadow of an infidel"? Philafrenzy (talk) 05:30, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Philafrenzy: honestly, I'm not sure about the picture slot. The images look great at full size but look very busy and hard to make out at thumbnail size. Short of adding more description to the article to come up with a better hook, I think that what you have as a hook will have to do. Yoninah (talk) 21:04, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi. There is no article on a particular Talmudic commentary by that name. When you create an article, you should really take care of all the disambiguations, since as the creator, you are the person probably most qualified to do so. Dabs are there to give folks choices, and to allow other editors to clean up articles by fixing dabs. When there is no selection on the dab page, there is no point in pointing to it. Take care. Onel5969TT me17:45, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@Onel5969: You're right, I should disambiguate it, but I can't. The source article only called him the Maharam. There are many Maharams, and I don't know which one was meant. I will try to locate other source material on Tzadka to figure this out. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 17:48, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I also searched for something to narrow it down, and was unable to. Thought, as the creator, you might have access to an offline source. Also, you might want to take a look at Linking Dos and Donts. If there isn't an article about the Talmudic text, you shouldn't point to the author. That's an example of MOS:LINKCLARITY. Rather, you should say something like, "the Talmudic commentary, xxxxxx, written by yyyyy", and then link the author. Readers shouldn't click on the link expecting to be taken to a page about the commentary, and instead going to the author's article, which may or may not even discuss the commentary. Conversely, if there is a section in the author's article about the commentary, you can point directly at it by using the formula: <nowiki>xxxxx</ nowiki>, where yyyyy is the author, commentary section refers to the name of the section on the author's page which discusses the commentary, and xxxxx is the name of the commentary. Hope this helps. Onel5969TT me18:04, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
I did it in the hope of getting it on the Main Page for April 29, Sunday, the third anniversary of the game. Do you think you could, as you have so many other times, review it? It seems like we're just getting that day's queue prepped, so it shouldn't be too hard. There are five hooks, yes, but I've made sure the sources are easy to verify from the nom.
And also, I ran it through Earwig and two of the sources I used came up as higher than we usually accept. I would argue that the first one, the Baltimore Sun'<nowiki>'s anniversary piece, is mainly a case of a lot of the same baseball terms and player names being used, and between that and the other one most of the overlapping material is in quotes. But ... if you'd like me to I will trim down some of the quotes I did use. Daniel Case (talk) 20:06, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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DYK for Oleta Crain
On 3 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Oleta Crain, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Oleta Crain, one of only three black women officers in training in the U.S. Army in 1943, was not allowed to sleep in the same barracks or take a shower at the same time as the white women? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Oleta Crain. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Oleta Crain), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Yoninah, I was wondering whether you were any happier with the proposed ALT1 hook here; you weren't willing to promote the original hook. (Since ALT1 has new facts, it would still need to be reviewed for sourcing and the like; this is just about whether it's sufficiently interesting.) Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:19, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah, I was wondering whether you'd be willing to take another look at this one. While The Rambling Man has said that he's satisfied that the issues he raised were resolved, we haven't heard back yet from Black Kite. At this point, it's been long enough that I think this should get moving again. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:03, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah, I was hoping you could stop by this one and say whether it still needed a GOCE copyedit or not. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:14, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Accident?
Hi. In this edit, you removed a hook, but judging by your edit summary, I suspect it may have been an accident. I removed the credit which was left behind. I don't know if you intended to move the hook to another prep, or pull the hook and reopen the nomination, or if it was truly just an accidental removal. I'll leave it to you to restore it where it should be. MANdARAX•XAЯAbИAM09:02, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for leaving the message for me to add secondary sourses to Dafydd Gibbon's website. I added 3 new sources and am looking for more. Does the website look better now? Cheers! --Jolanta Bachan (talk) 09:28, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Castle Coca
I moved the references to the paragraphs. I think the first three pictures from the gallery, exterior of castle coca, given at the end of the article, should all be good candidates. You can decide on any one you like. 2Joules (talk) 05:38, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi Yoninah. I noticed that you had promoted the DYK nomination of Halfway (EastEnders) to prep 4, but used the original hook rather than ALT1 as the reviewer suggested to use. Would you be mind changing this when you get a chance? Thanks, Soaper1234 - talk11:03, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
@Soaper1234: actually, I didn't think ALT1 was hooky at all, so I promoted the first hook. It also fit better into the prep set I was building. Yoninah (talk) 11:11, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Yoninah, we've run into each other a few times thanks to your extremely helpful work at DYK. Have you considered running to become an administrator? I'm not sure if you're interested or if the admin tools would help you with your DYK work, but I figured I would at least point out the idea. Best, ceranthor23:44, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)Ceranthor, you don't have to look too far up (and more in the archives) to find similar queries. Yoninah gets asked this question so often that I am starting to feel like we are harassing her (lol). If I may paraphrase, I think every time it's a similar response, that Yoninah is content with her current role in DYK and content creation; the unnecessary stress that comes with adminship doesn't seem particularly interesting to her. But then you can always remain in the same roles while still creating content; perhaps just like Muboshgu, waiting for that one last straw to happen. Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Oops, how embarrassing! Sorry, Yoninah, my scan through your talk page was rather brief, and I missed the previous queries. Thanks for all you do, and I was just bringing up the sentiment out of admiration for your work. ceranthor00:19, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah isn't an admin? Who knew? As someone who held out for a long time, I suggest you go for it. You get to block vandals and protect pages, and you can do it as little as you want and still work on content. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:43, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
I think Alex Shih summed up my feelings perfectly. I'm happy with all the "administrating" I'm already doing at DYK, and don't have time to add chasing vandals to my plate. Thanks to all for the vote of confidence! Yoninah (talk) 20:20, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
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I mean soul, you are so right, fixed ;) - I received it in 2012, and it it has quite a history, - find out if you have some time. You can follow the link here, but Impact is also on top of my user page, between Reformation and Peace. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: OK, I did Psalm 22 and Psalm 139. Psalm 22 needs a lot more work to bring it up to speed; there's a lot of interpretation and critical analysis that is unsourced and rather unnecessary. Please don't nominate that page until I can work on it some more. I really enjoyed doing Psalm 139. When I was a girl, before I knew Hebrew, I picked that one out of an English-language book of psalms and really identified with it. Now I've just learned that it alludes to Adam. Very nice. Yoninah (talk) 21:44, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, - yes, I know the 22 problems, - it's just one that is linked often, and now has a decent start! - Today 119 came up, in BWV 60, - what will we do about that looooong one? Perhaps not feasable to have the complete text? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. I added a link to the source KJV, the standard external links, a specific image, and the standard lead. Your turn, to summarize the structure in the lead, please. Psalm 97 will be DYK tomorrow, with the Biblical Songs, which contain many other psalms to expand. Pick if you like. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:00, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: It will take me a while to fix up the structure and themes section. Since this won't be eligible for DYK, I would rather invest the time in expanding some of the DYK-eligible Psalm articles, if that's all right with you. Then I could come back to this. Yoninah (talk) 22:35, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
I think you misunderstood, I wasn't meant to give you oreders, but express my helplessness in summarizing the specific well-planned structure in one sentence. 47 is in the pipeline ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:21, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
For the Biblical songs, there are (on top of the ones already improved) 55, 145, 61, 63, 25, 121, 98 and 96, of which 61 and 96 ae particularly short, good for DYK, and 121 is beloved, so improve even if not DYK. Another, beloved and short, one is 8. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
I expanded 145, as too long for DYK anyway, - we need to space the short ones a bit. Forgot 144, - only one verse but still ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Next: Psalm 36, eventually also 46. I expanded Opening Prayer today, and suddenly it was long enough for DYK, nominated, best on 25 August, Bernstein centenary (sigh). Do you think a link to the priestly blessing will do, or should the Hebrew text be in the article? If yes, please add it ;) - The image of Bernstein is excellent, and there will be no TFA - just thinking ... there are at present two violinists in the set, and I believe it would be better with two Bernstein. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: OK on Psalm 36, but not tonight. I don't think you need the Hebrew in Leonard Bernstein's pieces. You seem to have a lot of last-minute date requests. I think these hooks can also run on other days :) Yoninah (talk) 21:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
As I said, - I thought It was too short for DYK and then was carried away, and Jubilee Games is perfect for a centenary. It's sung in Hebrew, so I thought it might be god to include, but will listen to you ;) - Bernstein image another day is better than without image his birthday. Will listen to some of his music 24 August, - he is one of the topics of the festival here, no wonder, with the festival founder a close friend, - nice photos of them together in the broschure, taken some decades ago. - I think even without another Bernstein hook, two violinists are two many in one set. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
I heared Chichester Psalms yesterday, great again! I remeber that we covered 100 and 23, but there are also 2, 108, 131 and 133. If you could just add Hebre and English text, Wikisource and Commons, that would be great, - and doesn't press DYK expansion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
I think the shortname is better, well, slightly better, anyway, lol. But I'm certainly not going to make a Federal case out of it. Get it... Federal case? See how I did that? – Lionel(talk)00:27, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
@Shrike: Hi, I did some editing and formatted the references. I added some hidden notes to you. It's a fascinating topic and if I were doing it (which I'm not), I would flesh it out with more material from the sources. As it is, it reads rather sketchily. The section about the farm seems to be all about the comings and goings of Clorinda Minor and other characters; I would think you would describe what kind of agriculture was grown there, who they sold it to, etc. (It's a farm, after all.) Some description of the daily life, religious practices, etc., would also be welcome. It's not clear where it's located (the Haaretz article has more detail on that). Best, Yoninah (talk) 22:10, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Yoninah, can you please return to this when you get the chance and post where it stands and what else might need to be done? It's been over two weeks since the nominator replied. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:16, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
I commend you on your work on the Women in Red project. I would like to collaborate with you in writing women into history. PearlMerle (talk) 15:00, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm very grateful that the two supplementary articles got in, which accounted for more than half of the page views and made up for the dry hook. I'm sure the three articles were a combined 10,000 words and appreciate all the extra work that went into the review. – Reidgreg (talk) 16:01, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
The Colorado Women's Hall of Fame is delighted that you are writing Wikipedia bios
I can probably help with those as well - maybe even the Maryland Women's Hall of Fame and the Hall of Fame for Delaware Women (I have nominated candidates successfully to each). In fact, the Chair of the Board for the Colorado Women's Hall of Fame said yesterday that they had started their own effort. They were delighted with the DYK on 6/20/18 and my bio that you did for me. PearlMerle (talk) 13:35, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Contacting me
Are you willing to send me a message via LinkedIn so that we can have a email and/or LinkedIn conversation? I think you know who I am. PearlMerle (talk) 14:51, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
@PearlMerle: I'm not a member of LinkedIn, but you can send me an email through Wikipedia and we can communicate that way. Find "Email this user" in the toolbox to the left on my user page. Best, Yoninah (talk) 17:49, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
An important request
Hello, Since you are interested in writing about Israel, I invite you to take care of Mamilla article because there are paragraphs without sources. Thanks--Anass (talk) 14:33, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you so very much. One other little thing, I think, can we add a credit for Vanamonde93? Without their meticulous review and work, the article would not have been as thorough. Totally appreciate your help! SusunW (talk) 19:42, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi, my nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Mohamed El-Shenawy has now been approved and I'd like to put it forward for the World Cup final set on 15 July if possible. Two of the held hooks are also mine, so I'm not sure if there's any restriction on users having multiple DYKs promoted on the same day. Kosack (talk) 13:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@Kosack: OK, I'll move it. I don't think it's a problem about July 15 since the emphasis is on the date, not the nominators. Best, Yoninah (talk) 15:28, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Hello, I think that someone should close the discussion between me and you on the discussion page here and put a summary--Anass (talk) 15:14, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Alicia Cuarón
On 9 July 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alicia Cuarón, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mexican-American human rights activist Alicia Cuarón became a Franciscan nun in mid-life? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alicia Cuarón. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Alicia Cuarón), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Thanks for the book links. I was only in Hull for a few hours for a meeting, but always try to look in on the local museum. I thought it was a great museum and deserved an article, so made on as best I could. Unlike many museums it does not have a book about itself.Chemical Engineer (talk) 19:49, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for the article on Ofir Ben Shitrit. I was thinking about doing that before, but you did a much better job than I could.
She is not Yemenite though - the article in Tablet is talking about Ofra Haza in this sentence. "by choosing to cover Haza—a pop star whose most famous hits were renditions of the traditional tunes her parents brought with them from their native Yemen". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofra_Haza
@Avaya1: thank you for fixing that fact. But your rewrite of the page was not in keeping with Wikipedia standards. The lead should not be one sentence; it should show notability, and also summarize the key points of the article. Lumping all the sections under one header is also not ideal. I restored the lead and wikified the presentation, also removing the repetition you added and sourcing everything. Best, Yoninah (talk) 13:15, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks again for the article. But she's notable independently as a singer, reported about multiple times in mainstream sources independently of the controversy, and people download her performances a lot on the internet. So her notability does not need to be established from the controversy in 2013; she's now notable as a singer independently of the controversy. One sentence on the controversy in the lede is surely more suitable (as for e.g. Yael Shelbia) and then the topic can be covered in the body of the text. Three sentences about rabbinic law in the lede, it's not standard for a singer's biography, or for a biography of a living person format.Avaya1 (talk) 15:16, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Let's continue this conversation where it belongs, on the DYK nomination template. I'm moving this discussion there. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:23, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestions. I've completed the necessary work on the article; that was recommended, but it seems to have dropped off the DYK nominees list? Is it OK now ? Thanks? Broichmore (talk) 18:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
This is just to let you know that I replied to your email yesterday - I'm not sure you read it as I didn't get a response. Gatoclass (talk) 13:10, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Psalm 97
On 5 August 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Psalm 97, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that verses 2 to 6 of Psalm 97 in Czech were set to music by Antonín Dvořák in his Biblical Songs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Psalm 97. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Psalm 97), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
How about adding Bakazaka's Mitsu Dan DYK to prep 1?
It adds something newer to the other prep 1 hooks (a lot of those hooks are about older events) and would gel with the other hooks. Just a suggestion. Apologize if its already in a prep area. I like DYK hooks that are on the main page each day to gel together and to cover diverse areas so the readers can really remember them. JC7V-constructive zone19:57, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
@JC7V7DC5768: How'd you know I've been searching around for a hook to fill that last slot? Actually, I'm looking for a non-bio hook. And the hook you're suggesting is not approved yet. Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:00, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
On 14 August 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Psalm 138, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the South African composer Stefans Grové wrote a setting of Psalm 138 for choir, children's choir, African drums, marimba, and string orchestra? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Psalm 138. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Psalm 138), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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@Abecedare: thank you – that's a LOT clearer! And yes, you deserve the credit, because the nomination was going nowhere and no one else knew how to fix it. Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
I predict trouble with this "first" as India and Pakistan were once the same country. It's also wrongly worded and missing the joint beneficiary. Why not change it to "that in 1985, Shiv Pande arranged for a joint India-Pakistan cricket team to play "the rest of the world" in aid of Mother Teresa's charity and the orphans of the Bhopal gas disaster? Philafrenzy (talk) 11:25, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you!! YAY!! Praise God Hallelujah Amen!! I can't say thank you enough! It's perfect timing too! I hope it will bring two--or maybe even three--new readers and maybe someone who will participate in the FAC! I can apparently only speak in exclamations right now! Ha ha! (Humor!) :-) I'm truly grateful. Thank you again and again. Jenhawk777 18:36, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you in a message! Fannie Lou Hamer being featured on DYK will cause a lot of people to learn about a very brave woman. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 13:14, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
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) would increase the hit count): Lloyd Gaines (notable in his own right as the petitioner in a key early civil rights case heard by the U.S. Supreme Court), and Rebecca Coriam (which was for a long time my all-time hit champion). I looked around, and I found there were a lot more interesting stories to tell that were notable (I also feel that when people are looking around for information, having it all in one place near the top of the Google hits helps; but of course that's a benefit of Wikipedia in general) so I began planning to tell them on their anniversaries. As far as I know none of the articles I've written have helped solve cases, but that's OK. People elsewhere on the Internet accept them as the best resource, and that's what we should all really want. Daniel Case (talk) 22:38, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Jill S. Tietjen at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:21, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aircorn -- Aircorn (talk) 23:40, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
; see Talk:Chaim Topol for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aircorn -- Aircorn (talk) 08:41, 23 August 2018 (UTC)