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August music

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story · music · places

Finally as promised! Today I have two "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of my story, watch and listen, - I like today's especially because you see him at work, hear him talk about his work and the result of his work - rare! - I left a request to help with sources on WT:WIR, did you see? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! That organ is gorgeous. Haven't seen your query, had very little time on-line today and that will probably hold through Friday. Real life stuff is interfering. SusunW (talk) 21:28, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ipigott seems to have resolved the query! - ... and a third, like 22 July but with interview ("celebrate the art of women") and the music to be played today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:45, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On 13 August, Bach's cantata was 300 years old, and the image one. The cantata is an extraordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in the cycle. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bach piece is lovely. I do love him. All of the cloud photos are fascinating! And however did you get that cat to laugh at you? SusunW (talk) 14:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I wouldn't be surprised if what cat did was just stretching and yawning ;) - I did nothing than pass by. Same cat - or the other similar one - will come again in August. For a long time I thought there was just one until I saw them together. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:35, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
today's story is about education, 10 years OTD after lecturing our founder). Music for today's feast is Monteverdi's, the best concert we ever did (so pictured again on my talk), but it wasn't recorded, substituted with a "Pacific" one that comes with subtitles line by line in Latin and English: I learned something! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
adding 4 animals from 30 July, 2 cats (one the one who "laughed") - yesterday's story

was about a woman --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Love the little deer and the cats. The poppies are gorgeous. Sunflowers are a curse. Lovely to look at, but if you have to dig them out of your yard, be prepared to bleed. Their stems will slice right through your gardening gloves and are sooooo hard to uproot. SusunW (talk) 19:43, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Never thought of that, just enjoyed them in the gardens and field of others ;) - My story is about a stage director, and I picked Aida, so tender so cruel. - We don't know where he died, and the date was wrong by almost a week, - had to change it while on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They grew wild in our yard in Oklahoma. To get a plumbing problem fixed, we had to get rid of them. After trying resulted in bloody hands and demolished gloves, we rented a rototiller. Nightmare. Odd that someone died and none of the notices say where. I guess they assumed anyone interested would know. I note that the article says "from 2012 to 2024 heading the department of direction". That caught my eye because the sentence before says he worked at the Academy until 2022. The source says he was head of theater direction from 2012 to 2016. SusunW (talk) 14:04, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed the typo, - it's been on the Main page for three days and you were the one and only to notice! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That attention to detail I have is both a blessing and a curse. SusunW (talk) 14:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Help? My story today is about a woman, nominated for RD but needing support as I write this. A composer died whose article is long and mostly unreferenced. And some articles open for review, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shawna Baker help

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Hello Susun, I hope you are doing well! Sorry to trouble you but....I am drafting a page about a Cherokee lawyer. As I am ignorant about her heritage and do not want to get things wrong, I wonder if you or someone who knows the Cherokee Nation would look at the draft and let me know if I have made any mistakes? For example I have referred to 'Indian Territory' and do not know if this phrase is still in use. I could also do with some more references to cite, if possible, but that might be too much work for busy people! The draft is at User: Balance person/Shawna Baker I would be grateful if you could take a look? Thanks if you can. Balance person (talk) 07:38, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Balance person I'm happy to look at it, but I also think you need someone from the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America to look it over because I haven't lived in Oklahoma in 40 years and terms change. For example, Indian Territory was indeed the historical name for approximately the entire eastern half of what is now Oklahoma and referring to the pre-1907 area it would be correct to call it Indian Territory. On the other hand, "She was on the reservation in the ten years (1985-1995)" to me seems historically wrong. There was not a recognized Cherokee reservation in Oklahoma at that time. The term "reservation Indian" had very negative connotations and the numerous Cherokee people I knew personally would never have described themselves in that way. The 2021 decision which made the historic boundaries of the Cherokee Nation into the Cherokee Reservation is a very recent development, so from a historian's point of view, saying she grew up on the reservation is wrong. However from a political perspective, since the Cherokee legal claim was upheld that the promise of a permanent reservation was never withdrawn, may make saying that she grew up on he reservation correct. I'm also confused about "Outside Indian Country..." because Tulsa IS in Indian Country and most of it is within the Cherokee reservation. Perhaps just say other activities include, but I honestly don't know what terminology one would use to specify that activities are either focused on Native issues or non-Indigenous issues, which is what I think you are trying to explain. Native, Indigenous, American Indian, etc. are all terms that should be capitalized when they refer to people per WP:INDIGENOUS. I have a doctor's appointment this morning, but will look at it in more depth this afternoon. Right now it seems a little promotional. @ARoseWolf and Yuchitown: may be available and able to give some guidance on correct terminology. Both are very active in the above WikiProject. SusunW (talk) 14:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Balance person, Indian Territory is fine for the historical location within what is now Oklahoma. I would remove any part about a Cherokee Nation reservation as there was not an official reservation at that time. The Curtis Act of 1898 disbanded tribal governments, privatized reservation land, and Cherokee people citizens of the United States subject to federal laws instead of Cherokee tribal laws. In 1934, FDR signed the Indian Reorganization Act which established the Cherokee Nation as a protected sovereign and encouraged reorganization of tribal governments and courts. The Cherokee Nation was reconstituted in 1938. The Cherokee Nation does have land holdings but it is mostly just a political sovereign with no real defined borders. There are Cherokee citizens of all three of the federally recognized Cherokee tribes scattered all over the US and world. As I read it more I have may have further suggestions. --ARoseWolf 15:32, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you ARoseWolf very much. I have corrected the things I got wrong so far and look forward to other comments if you have time. Balance person (talk) 16:46, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Susun. This is so helpful. I look forward to your next comments. Balance person (talk) 16:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Balance person, truly sorry. I had one of those days where the stuff they give you to take a test doesn't wear off for the entire day. The good news is the test results were fine. Today, I will look at Baker. SusunW (talk) 12:49, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem at all at all SusunW. And thank goodness your test, though sounding very unpleasant for you, has come out well! Yay! You must be relieved. BTW I got Baker's name from a Wikipedia Indigenous list of red women. Just had her name and the word lawyer after it. So I am utterly ignorant! Balance person (talk) 12:58, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Balance person First, you asked for sources, so I found a few. This article is about reenacting the Trail of Tears journey on bicycles. Part 2 of the article tells you she is 46 (in 2024). This says the domestic violence task force was created in 2021. This says she was appointed to the gaming commission in 2019. This paper she wrote is discussed a lot in this article (just search "Baker" and you can see what the author says about what she wrote). This article is reviewed here p. 378. She was honored by the Oklahoma Bar in 2021 p. 24 with an Ada Lois Sipuel Fisher award. Okay, second, I'll look at the article. SusunW (talk) 14:56, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I interrupted you! I will stay off the article until you are ready! Sorry! Balance person (talk) 15:35, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Balance person, All good, no worries. I made a few edits and linked several things. I think the bit about her opinion In re: Effect of Cherokee Nation v. Nash & Vann v. Zinke should not be cited to herself. NPR and CNN talk about her ruling. I would think about adding a "selected works" section and add the two papers listed above and the decision, which "Graham Lee Brewer, an editor for Indigenous affairs at High Country News" called "one of the most beautifully written [court documents] I've ever read". I'd also probably link it to her decision, here. Please let me know if I can help further. SusunW (talk) 15:41, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much Susun for the extra references and for the suggestions. I have worked through them and THINK I have done the necessary but would be very grateful if you could have a quick look at User: Balance person/Shawna Baker to see if I have misunderstood anything. I have loads to learn as I know you know!! Balance person (talk) 16:25, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Balance person I think you did well. I have added reviews of her works, but if you think that is too much, you can just remove them. SusunW (talk) 17:58, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the reviews add a lot of weight to her work. I would keep them. Thank you for the time you have given to this and for the education. I always learn loads from you. And tomorrow I will alert Ipigott that I am about to move the article onto main page. He has been another guiding star since practically day one and I so trust his judgement. Balance person (talk) 18:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Balance person I am glad to help. Please always feel free to come here and ask for anything. I will always try to help if I can. And yes, Ian is an absolute jewel. SusunW (talk) 18:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 2024 at Women in Red

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Women in Red | September 2024, Volume 10, Issue 9, Numbers 293, 294, 311, 316, 317


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September music

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story · music · places

What do you think of my short version of the life of Alexander Goehr? Our DYK team would probably want to mention that he worked in a training kibbutz, while I was happy to include a link to an article by Brian Boulton, - we sang the Monteverdi Vespers on 1 September 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today's story has 3 composers, I couldn't decide for the one on the Main page or the one who didn't make it on his bicentenary, so took both, and the pic has a third. Listen if you have a bit of time. The music, played by the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra in Germany in April 2022, impressed me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recommended reading today: Frye Fire, by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy because my story today is about a Czech mezzo soprano who is mentioned on the Main page on her birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Three stories related to today in memory, 11 September, 20 July and 20 June, the latter piece of art also pictured on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today is Schoenberg's 150th birthday! On display, portrayed by Egon Schiele, with music from Moses und Aron, and with two DYK hooks, one from 2010 and another from 2014; the latter, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday, which made me happy then and now again. - See places for a stunning sunrise, on the day Bruckner's 200th birthday was celebrated (just a few days late). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Gerda Arendt, sorry that I have been incommunicado for a couple of weeks. Real life stuff had to be sorted and I wasn't able to be on line. Lots of catching up to do. The photos of Schloss Weilburg are gorgeous. Pears, artichokes, that reflection in a puddle, lovely! The sunrise is wonderful too. SusunW (talk) 14:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry ;) - My story today is about a man who played jazz when it was banned by the Nazis, - you can listen to how they played it later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Help with a proposal for GA reassessment

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I realize architecture is not one of your main interests, Susun, but over the past few days, together with Ramblersen2, I have spent quite a bit of my editing time making improvements to Architecture of Denmark in line with the shortcomings identified. Given your expertise in GA assessment, you might like to participate in the discussion on the article's talk page.--Ipigott (talk) 11:21, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Ipigott I have been offline for about 2 weeks. I threw my back out (doing absolutely nothing exciting or out of the ordinary) and it completely limited my ability to sit or lie down. 2 weeks of physical therapy later, I am finally functional again. Do you still need help with this? SusunW (talk) 14:07, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good to see you're back to normal, Susun. I was becoming a little worried. Yes, I think it would still be useful if you could look at this as the result is still pending, possible because of lack of interest from other contributors.--Ipigott (talk) 14:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ipigott I don't really have a clue about how a reassessment is done, but it seems very odd to me that a "reviewer" can edit an article that they are reviewing. The review seems a bit contentious, but his main point seems to be that things like "outstanding", "masterpiece", "impressive", etc. should be attributed to whoever made the assessment, instead of in wikivoice. I don't really get why its relevant that updates from 2012 be included, unless there has been some significant development in Danish style since that time. As a traveler, it seems to me that most modern architecture has lost its unique regionalism, but perhaps my observations are biased. I know I am probably not being very helpful, but every source I have tried to access, I cannot access. SusunW (talk) 16:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking a look. This is the first time I've been targeted for a GA re-assessment and I seem to be learning as the process continues. It looks as if new problems can be listed whenever the previous set of issues has been resolved. I'm sorry you had difficulty in accessing the sources. I'll check them all out and try to find more recent equivalents if difficulties persist. At the moment, it looks as if we are faced with a full new review, even if the article has not officially been demoted.--Ipigott (talk) 09:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Green's "Around the World in 31 Days" GA Editathon – October 2024

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Hello SusunW:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2024!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

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