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Frances M. Hill
Hi! I've been doing some gnomish work regarding this list, adding redirects where applicable. In this process, I came across Frances Maria Mulligan Hill, now a redirect to Frances M. Hill, an article you created a couple of years ago. The article contains two spellings of her given name: with an "e" and with an "i". I'm wondering if this was inadvertent vs. because her name changed during the course of her life? :) --Rosiestep (talk) 19:21, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Rosiestep Just a typo, I am positive. I rarely look at what I am typing, as I am reading the source and composing in my head. SusunW (talk) 19:29, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Cool. I changed the i to an e. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:36, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Lola Álvarez Bravo
On 9 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lola Álvarez Bravo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that photographer Lola Álvarez Bravo was described by Alfonso Michel as Mexico's most important painter? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lola Álvarez Bravo. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lola Álvarez Bravo), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Sirimavo Bandaranaike at DYK Errors
It looks like Sirimavo Bandaranaike was the first woman head of government and was not head of state per this and WP:ERRORS. SL93 (talk) 03:52, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
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DYK for Sirimavo Bandaranaike
On 14 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sirimavo Bandaranaike, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1960, Sirimavo Bandaranaike became the first woman elected as a non-hereditary head of government in modern history? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sirimavo Bandaranaike. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sirimavo Bandaranaike), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Sakina Aliyeva
I'm a bit worried about the DYK nomination for Sakina Aliyeva now sitting in Prep4 for appearance on January 20th. The article states "Aliyeva signed and presented the declaration,[2][10] the first secession proclamation by any territory of the former USSR on television.". Could you please rewrite the sentence to make it clear that it was the first declaration of independence and not the first one made on TV, and also put the cites at the end of the sentence. The hook currently states "... that Sakina Aliyeva signed and announced the first declaration of independence from the USSR on Nakhichevan television in January 1990?" and I am also concerned that "first declaration of independence from the USSR" is not very precise. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:39, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Cwmhiraeth Done SusunW (talk) 08:14, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. I have rewritten the hook to
- ... that in January 1990, Sakina Aliyeva signed the first declaration of independence by a part of the USSR, and announced it on Nakhichevan television? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:05, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Cwmhiraeth since it is running on the 20th, you could say on 20 January 1990, but it is fine, as written. SusunW (talk) 15:37, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. I have rewritten the hook to
DYK for Sakina Aliyeva
On 20 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sakina Aliyeva, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that on 20 January 1990, Sakina Aliyeva signed the first declaration of independence by a part of the Soviet Union, and announced it on Nakhichevan television? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sakina Aliyeva. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sakina Aliyeva), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
2019
Thank you for your project help last year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you so much Gerda Arendt. I managed to survive December and January 2nd got really good news, thus 2019 looks much brighter than it might have otherwise. Positivity is very much the secret to health and laughter is fabulous medicine, but sharing with others is the secret to a fulfilled life. Wishing you a fruitful year. SusunW (talk) 15:50, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Good to hear, thanks for sharing! He died on his bike to work, can you imagine? It was such a shock. But us living by the rules his family found is a great legacy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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Thank you for improving articles! Did you know that Precious began 7 years ago? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Women of peace
In connection with #107, I've put together a List of women pacifists and peace activists. As you are far more of an expert in this area than I am, you might like to see whether my short introduction is adequate. Ideally we should have a separate article on the subject but there's simply not time for everything. Please also include any names I have missed.--Ipigott (talk) 17:36, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ooh, this is good Ian! I've done a bunch of them, but remembering who they were/are ... I'll bookmark it and add a few. I think the intro is fine and yes, I agree, too much to do, too little time ;) SusunW (talk) 17:58, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Is there a bot that can check if people in the Category:Women's International League for Peace and Freedom people are on the list? SusunW (talk) 18:01, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- The bot is called Ipigott. I have added them.--Ipigott (talk) 19:08, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Is there a bot that can check if people in the Category:Women's International League for Peace and Freedom people are on the list? SusunW (talk) 18:01, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ooh, this is good Ian! I've done a bunch of them, but remembering who they were/are ... I'll bookmark it and add a few. I think the intro is fine and yes, I agree, too much to do, too little time ;) SusunW (talk) 17:58, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
February 2019 at Women in Red
February 2019, Volume 5, Issue 2, Numbers 107-111
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Inter-Allied Women's Conference
I must say you've done a really impressive job on this one. It really enhances the entire context of how women contributed to the League of Nations agenda. I see there are also lots of new red links. Pity it's almost the end of the month but there'll no doubt be other opportunities to cover some of them under suffrage, women's rights, etc.--Ipigott (talk) 11:39, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I agree with Ipigott! I think this article could reach GA status without too much additional effort. Might be worth requesting a ce by the WP:GUILD! Keep it up- I enjoy reading the articles you write! Thsmi002 (talk) 13:19, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thsmi002, thank you so much for finding sources and fleshing out the background part. I love that you did the section in the official Peace Conference, as it helps balance history and hopefully will point people to our article. Ipigott is my guild :), he always does an excellent job. I've asked Rosiestep to help with putting what I'll call ribbons of pictures in. She did this with other conference goers, but I don't have the technical know-how. It's like all the photos are linked in a ribbon and we can pull in pictures of the various attendees. We still need to Britishize (or is that Britishise, LOL) the English, as it seems to me all the League of Nations and affiliated articles follow that scheme. I have also requested docs from Cobble, but have yet to receive anything. Mayhaps we go for DYK on the 10th and then nominate for GA? (Backwards I know), but the 100th anniversary on the 10th would be a good time for it to hit the front page. I'm off to my morning "session", will be back around noon. SusunW (talk) 14:16, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, of course. I'd be happy to string together the images. You're talking about the particpiants, I presume? --Rosiestep (talk) 16:00, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- DYK on the 10th would certainly focus attention on the first meeting. Perhaps Yoninah can help. I can Britishize if you like but the LoN and its preparations were just as much an American initiative as a British one.--Ipigott (talk) 14:34, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I am back early. Today traffic, inside and outside, was on our side. Yes, Rosiestep of the participants. I have yet to find any group photos. And, yes Ipigott I think we Britishize it for consistency's sake. I'm going to write an aftermath section, to link it to the WILPF conference, but then I think we are mostly wrapped up. SusunW (talk) 16:25, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thsmi002, thank you so much for finding sources and fleshing out the background part. I love that you did the section in the official Peace Conference, as it helps balance history and hopefully will point people to our article. Ipigott is my guild :), he always does an excellent job. I've asked Rosiestep to help with putting what I'll call ribbons of pictures in. She did this with other conference goers, but I don't have the technical know-how. It's like all the photos are linked in a ribbon and we can pull in pictures of the various attendees. We still need to Britishize (or is that Britishise, LOL) the English, as it seems to me all the League of Nations and affiliated articles follow that scheme. I have also requested docs from Cobble, but have yet to receive anything. Mayhaps we go for DYK on the 10th and then nominate for GA? (Backwards I know), but the 100th anniversary on the 10th would be a good time for it to hit the front page. I'm off to my morning "session", will be back around noon. SusunW (talk) 14:16, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- I'm a bit confused by the "Commissions for International Labour Legislation" mentioned in the lead but not in the article.--~~
- It's there Ipigott in the paragraph starting "Their dismissal did not stop the women" ... SusunW (talk) 16:54, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- OK, but should it not therefore be "Commission (singular) for International Labour Legislation" (or perhaps "Commission on International Labour Legislation" which had already been set up on 25 January 1919. See [1]?--Ipigott (talk) 17:13, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed Ipigott. Probably also need to expand the lede with a few points from the aftermath and legacy sections as well. SusunW (talk) 17:22, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, I think I got the stuff I thought it was necessary to add added. SusunW (talk) 17:42, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Nope, I lied, inadvertently. Just got documentation from Dr. Cobble which I will need to peruse. SusunW (talk) 17:55, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done Images added to Inter-Allied Women's Conference. Delighted by the sheer number. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:55, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, saw myself pinged. If you're aiming for a February 10 run date on DYK, definitely nominate it now and I'll review it and place it in the special occasions holding area for that date. At the same time, you can apply for GA, which won't affect the DYK qualification. Yoninah (talk) 19:01, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks @Rosiestep and Yoninah:! I'll try to finish up so it can be nominated ASAP. SusunW (talk) 19:42, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- In the meantime, I'll work on converting some of the redlinked women into blue. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:13, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks @Rosiestep and Yoninah:! I'll try to finish up so it can be nominated ASAP. SusunW (talk) 19:42, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, saw myself pinged. If you're aiming for a February 10 run date on DYK, definitely nominate it now and I'll review it and place it in the special occasions holding area for that date. At the same time, you can apply for GA, which won't affect the DYK qualification. Yoninah (talk) 19:01, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done Images added to Inter-Allied Women's Conference. Delighted by the sheer number. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:55, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Nope, I lied, inadvertently. Just got documentation from Dr. Cobble which I will need to peruse. SusunW (talk) 17:55, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, I think I got the stuff I thought it was necessary to add added. SusunW (talk) 17:42, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed Ipigott. Probably also need to expand the lede with a few points from the aftermath and legacy sections as well. SusunW (talk) 17:22, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- OK, but should it not therefore be "Commission (singular) for International Labour Legislation" (or perhaps "Commission on International Labour Legislation" which had already been set up on 25 January 1919. See [1]?--Ipigott (talk) 17:13, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Gabrielle Alphen-Salvador (France)
- Margherita Ancona (Italy)
- Eugénie Beeckmans (France)
- Georgette Bouillot (France)
- Elisa Brătianu (Romania)
- Louise Compain (France)
- Suzanne Grinberg (France)
- Marie Parent (Belgium)
- Marie-Louise Puech (France)
- Alice Schiavoni Bosio (Italy)
- Rosamund Smith (UK)
- Valentine Thomson (France)
- Louise van den Plas (Belgium) Done --Rosiestep (talk) 22:29, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks Rosiestep FYI, I am working on Ancona. That is how I started down this rabbit hole to begin with ;) SusunW (talk) 20:29, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- I'm going to start on some of the French translations. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:32, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yay Rosiestep! In addition to the redlinks, the articles on Julie Siegfried and Maria Vérone are awful and need some TLC from a French speaker. Maybe Charles01 would have time to help? SusunW (talk) 22:39, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Okay Ipigott this time, I promise, I am done. Can you give it a final copyedit? I'll work on a DYK nomination. SusunW (talk) 20:39, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- The DYK nomination is done Template:Did you know nominations/Inter-Allied Women's Conference, if anyone wants to add anything. Yoninah can you shepherd it to happen on the 10th of February? and thank you very, very much. SusunW (talk) 22:18, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- I'm going to start on some of the French translations. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:32, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks Rosiestep FYI, I am working on Ancona. That is how I started down this rabbit hole to begin with ;) SusunW (talk) 20:29, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- I was amused by the English-English mistranslation of "Conference of Women Suffragists of Entente Countries and the U.S.A." as "Suffragist Conference of the Allied Countries and the United States". Perhaps the "official" name of the conference really was "Conference of Women Suffragists of Entente Countries and the U.S.A." I must say I am not sure which countries are covered by the Entente in this context or whether they are the same as the Allied Countries.--Ipigott (talk) 08:39, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- I think I have now completed the copy edit. In connection with the above, I note that the article does not list the countries represented by the Inter-Allied Women. If it is not easy to establish them, then it is probably better to leave them out but from the women you have listed, we see that in addition to the USA, UK, France and Italy, we also have Armenia, Belgium, New Zealand, Romania and South Africa. There is even a photograph of the Armenian Zabel Yesayan. According to Allies of World War I, the countries involved in the Versailles discussions were France, Britain, Italy, Japan and the United States. At best, Belgium and Romania were "associated members" while New Zealand and South Africa could only be covered by their status as members of the British Empire. I don't know if this is important but I think many of those who read the article will be wondering where the Inter-Allied Women came from. Maybe Category:Interallied Victory Medals of World War I will throw some light on the matter.--Ipigott (talk) 12:07, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Lovely job, Ipigott. I actually put "Conference of Women Suffragists of Entente Countries and the U.S.A." in several search engines and found no hits for it, but the "Suffragist Conference of the Allied Countries and the United States" appeared in several newspaper articles. I have no idea what the actual name of it was, as I have no access to the French documents. (But that is probably a good thing, since my ability with French is awful). I initially listed the women without countries, but *I* wanted to know where they were from and started adding the countries in. As some of the documents only referred to them as Mlle X or Mme Y, I had to use various sources to identify who they were. One of the papers said there were around 20 actual delegates but numerous other women who testified about conditions in their countries and helped in discussions. Yesayan presented information on conditions in Armenia, but since I did not know who was a delegate or a resource, I just listed them as participants. I can easily add a statement about where they were from. SusunW (talk) 13:56, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Perhaps the best way to handle the countries would be in the form of a note. Is there any indication who the original 20 delegates were? It would be interesting to know.--Ipigott (talk) 14:29, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ipigott, I added "Women who responded to the call to participate as either delegates or to bring information about conditions in their countries included representatives from France, Italy, the United Kingdom, and the United States, as well as Armenia, Belgium, New Zealand, Romania and South Africa." as the last sentence in the background section. SusunW (talk) 18:09, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- I finished Ancona and am now working on Elisa Brătianu. SusunW (talk) 18:23, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ipigott, I added "Women who responded to the call to participate as either delegates or to bring information about conditions in their countries included representatives from France, Italy, the United Kingdom, and the United States, as well as Armenia, Belgium, New Zealand, Romania and South Africa." as the last sentence in the background section. SusunW (talk) 18:09, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Perhaps the best way to handle the countries would be in the form of a note. Is there any indication who the original 20 delegates were? It would be interesting to know.--Ipigott (talk) 14:29, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Lovely job, Ipigott. I actually put "Conference of Women Suffragists of Entente Countries and the U.S.A." in several search engines and found no hits for it, but the "Suffragist Conference of the Allied Countries and the United States" appeared in several newspaper articles. I have no idea what the actual name of it was, as I have no access to the French documents. (But that is probably a good thing, since my ability with French is awful). I initially listed the women without countries, but *I* wanted to know where they were from and started adding the countries in. As some of the documents only referred to them as Mlle X or Mme Y, I had to use various sources to identify who they were. One of the papers said there were around 20 actual delegates but numerous other women who testified about conditions in their countries and helped in discussions. Yesayan presented information on conditions in Armenia, but since I did not know who was a delegate or a resource, I just listed them as participants. I can easily add a statement about where they were from. SusunW (talk) 13:56, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Further work on red links
I was just about to start Alice Schiavoni Bosio but discovered you had already covered her. I see you've also done a good job with Elisa Brătianu. Do you intend to cover all the others or should I help out? There also seem to be an increasing number of suffragist organizations we should be writing about: International Committee of Women for Permanent Peace, Associazione per la donna, Consiglio Nazionale delle Donne Italiane, Federazione Nazionale Pro-Suffragio Femminile, Federazione Nazionale pro Suffragio, 1921 International Congress of Working Women, Office français des intérêts féminins, Comité d'Action Suffragiste, Comité mondial des femmes contre la guerre et le fascisme, Kvinnosaksförbundet Unionen (Finland), Förening för kvinnans politiska rösträtt (Sweden), Open Door International [[2], Danske Kvinders Forsvarsforening (Danish Women's Defence Association), Danske Kvindeforeningers Valgretsforbund (Danish Women's Society Suffrage Union), Kvindevalgretsklubben, and Kvindernes Handels- og Kontoristforening (Danish Women's Trades and Office Workers Association). Of course some of these might have been covered in other articles but they all still seem to need attention.--Ipigott (talk) 13:00, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ipigott, I have been avoiding the French ones, which should be no surprise. ;) I think we have done pretty good with covering the ones that there is sufficient data to confirm their notability and I do not have a problem leaving some as redlinks, but didn't want to nominate it for GA until we had more of them done than not done. I think we are there, so we can nominate it at any time. I totally agree on the organizations. I've mainly been focused on adding names to the redlist for suffragists, but clearly the organizations should be added as well. I made a redirect for the International Women's Committee of Permanent Peace to WILPF, but your variant should also do that. SusunW (talk) 17:17, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Inter-Allied Women's Conference
Hello! Your submission of Inter-Allied Women's Conference at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 18:33, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, your hook and image is scheduled to go on the main page on February 10. Could you add a mention of Marguerite de Witt-Schlumberger's involvement as conference organizer for the Inter-Allied Women's Conference in her article please? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 11:20, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yoninah It already says "In response, women from the French Union for Women's Suffrage and the National Council of French Women, acting under the leadership of de Witt-Schlumberger, invited international colleagues to meet in Paris in a parallel conference scheduled to open on 10 February 1919." Do you want something more than that? SusunW (talk) 13:46, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think you should name the conference, or at least pipe the link: [[Inter-Allied Women's Conference|a parallel conference]]. Yoninah (talk) 13:53, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yoninah Okay, I think it's done. I am hurrying off to a doctor's appointment, but ping me if I need to do further work when I get back. SusunW (talk) 14:23, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- That's perfect, thank you. Yoninah (talk) 15:36, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yoninah Okay, I think it's done. I am hurrying off to a doctor's appointment, but ping me if I need to do further work when I get back. SusunW (talk) 14:23, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think you should name the conference, or at least pipe the link: [[Inter-Allied Women's Conference|a parallel conference]]. Yoninah (talk) 13:53, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yoninah It already says "In response, women from the French Union for Women's Suffrage and the National Council of French Women, acting under the leadership of de Witt-Schlumberger, invited international colleagues to meet in Paris in a parallel conference scheduled to open on 10 February 1919." Do you want something more than that? SusunW (talk) 13:46, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your work on Ida Tarbell
The Editor's Barnstar | ||
Thank you so much for carrying the ball over the finish line! I was on a wikibreak when Ida Tarbell came up for Good Article review and you jumped in and completed the tasks. I couldn't have done it without you. Thank you, so much! Auldhouse (talk) 18:05, 5 February 2019 (UTC) |
- Not a problem at all Auldhouse, I actually enjoyed learning about her. You did all the heavy lifting and if in some small way I could help tweak things here and there to get it approved, I was happy to do it. SusunW (talk) 18:27, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
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DYK for Inter-Allied Women's Conference
On 10 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Inter-Allied Women's Conference, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Inter-Allied Women's Conference, which opened in Paris 100 years ago today, marked the first time women were granted formal participation in an international treaty negotiation (conference organizer Marguerite de Witt-Schlumberger pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Inter-Allied Women's Conference. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Inter-Allied Women's Conference), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Nice! Also nice to share the Main page with you (and the others who contributed), mentioning "open dialogue" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:14, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Andrea Levy
On 15 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Andrea Levy, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:27, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Deleted Draft of Emma Hart
You responded to my initial newbie question on the WiR page, and I have another newbie question. Please let me know if this kind of question is better asked on the WiR talk page. I was browsing around the Women in Red list of deleted drafts and ran across this one: Draft:Emma_Hart. After looking at it, I thought that she pretty easily gets over the notable bar. I added a couple of citations, and a little more verbiage along with a link to a video interview she did as part of a series interviews of experts in the field. I understand there is a Google Scholar template that might be helpful too. (She has a Google Scholar entry.) But I can't find any information on that. (Sorry, it's late and I'm rambling.) My questions are: 1) Can you review the article and see if my assessment is accurate. 2) What's the next step if you agree with me that she's notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IdRatherBeAtTheBeach (talk • contribs) 06:47, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- IdRatherBeAtTheBeach give me a couple of more hours and I'll review it. Just off the top of my head, she immediately qualifies as notable under WP:PROF as the editor-in-chief of Evolutionary Computation (journal). SusunW (talk) 17:05, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- SusunW Thanks, I am working on it this morning for a few more minutes. The citations are a bit scrambled between my additions and the originals.IdRatherBeAtTheBeach (talk) 17:11, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- IdRatherBeAtTheBeach My general comments: this is a WP:BLP, which I do not usually work on simply because they are more contentious. Sources are harder to find, and one must be extremely careful about promotion and neutrality. As a general rule, any source used must be independent of the subject, i.e. not by her or any of her employers and need to have editorial review, which omits blogs, youtube, self-published materials, etc. Been looking for several hours, very hard to find sources that fit the guidelines, but I think we may find just enough. As it is a BLP, all claims should have an in-line source. There are some formatting issues ("notes" are for explanations, "references" is wikispeak for citations). I note that Thsmi002 moved it to mainspace, so I'll just do some tweaking there. SusunW (talk) 21:17, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- SusunW Thank you so much for your help (and Thsmi002 too). The page looks much better. I will continue to work on sources. I am thinking there must be Evolutionary Computing publications that could help. 2601:647:C800:8FC2:E1A3:2843:AEE3:96ED (talk) 05:43, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Susun and IdRatherBeAtTheBeach for rescuing this article. I didn't want to risk it staying as a draft, so I went ahead and moved it to Article space. Articles, even in a poor state that would likely pass an AfD should be moved to article space where they can continue to be improved. Great work everyone! Thsmi002 (talk) 14:01, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- IdRatherBeAtTheBeach she was a great rescue find and that is how great collaboration works. You can go into the view history and compare the different edits to see how it developed. You can also ask our Women in Red librarian in residence Megalibrarygirl to help with sourcing on anything. She is a supervisor at a library in El Paso, so has access to stuff the rest of us don't. I have access to lots of subscription journals through the Wikipedia Library because where I live in southern Mexico there are no public libraries. Thsmi002 is amazing, always following along and helping with the stuff I am not good at. My fortés are research and writing, but the wiki stuff, not so much ;) I'm glad those with the technical skill found a way to put the abandoned/declined drafts in a list. A lot of them are notable, it is only a matter of identifying, sourcing, and wikifying them to rescue them. Truly, ask here any time, if I don't answer, as you see, there are others who watch my page who will help. SusunW (talk) 15:34, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- SusunW I will definitely ask Megalibrarygirl for help if I can't access the technical books. I have been a software developer for years, and am enjoying learning the ins-and-outs of the Wikipedia markup and tools. Writing itself is not my favorite thing, but I love the treasure/scavenger hunt for citations. I can't wait until I have learned the ropes. It's quite overwhelming to start. IdRatherBeAtTheBeach (talk) 15:43, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- IdRatherBeAtTheBeach truer words were never spoken. I would've quit a thousand times if I had not found a team of people to mentor me and help me along. Then we formed Women in Red and the support there is awesome. Wikitechnology is totally beyond me, took me forever to learn the markup and tools. I use what I know how to use and must rely on others to help when it is beyond me. And yes, the research is my favorite part, which is why I focus on marginalized people. Can you find enough material to justify an article and bring balance to the historic record? It's like a puzzle and treasure hunt rolled into one. You have a map, 1/2 (or more) of it is missing ;) SusunW (talk) 16:46, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- IdRatherBeAtTheBeach don't ever hesitate to ask for help. I'm happy to try to find references or do anything else to help out. Like Susun mentioned, we need to be a community on Wikipedia, and I think we are (an awesome one!) :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:31, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- IdRatherBeAtTheBeach truer words were never spoken. I would've quit a thousand times if I had not found a team of people to mentor me and help me along. Then we formed Women in Red and the support there is awesome. Wikitechnology is totally beyond me, took me forever to learn the markup and tools. I use what I know how to use and must rely on others to help when it is beyond me. And yes, the research is my favorite part, which is why I focus on marginalized people. Can you find enough material to justify an article and bring balance to the historic record? It's like a puzzle and treasure hunt rolled into one. You have a map, 1/2 (or more) of it is missing ;) SusunW (talk) 16:46, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Susun and IdRatherBeAtTheBeach for rescuing this article. I didn't want to risk it staying as a draft, so I went ahead and moved it to Article space. Articles, even in a poor state that would likely pass an AfD should be moved to article space where they can continue to be improved. Great work everyone! Thsmi002 (talk) 14:01, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- SusunW Thank you so much for your help (and Thsmi002 too). The page looks much better. I will continue to work on sources. I am thinking there must be Evolutionary Computing publications that could help. 2601:647:C800:8FC2:E1A3:2843:AEE3:96ED (talk) 05:43, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- IdRatherBeAtTheBeach My general comments: this is a WP:BLP, which I do not usually work on simply because they are more contentious. Sources are harder to find, and one must be extremely careful about promotion and neutrality. As a general rule, any source used must be independent of the subject, i.e. not by her or any of her employers and need to have editorial review, which omits blogs, youtube, self-published materials, etc. Been looking for several hours, very hard to find sources that fit the guidelines, but I think we may find just enough. As it is a BLP, all claims should have an in-line source. There are some formatting issues ("notes" are for explanations, "references" is wikispeak for citations). I note that Thsmi002 moved it to mainspace, so I'll just do some tweaking there. SusunW (talk) 21:17, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- SusunW Thanks, I am working on it this morning for a few more minutes. The citations are a bit scrambled between my additions and the originals.IdRatherBeAtTheBeach (talk) 17:11, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- SusunWI am cleaning-up Emma Hart's page and continuing to look for sources. What is the reliability of biographies for presenters in the proceedings of conferences? I am looking for a reliable citation for her role as D. Coordinator for FoCAS, and can't find anything besides EU sites and the FoCAS website. However, this page from Euro2016 conference talk video mentions it. "Emma Hart speaks at Euro2016 on Lifelong learning".
- IdRatherBeAtTheBeach typically they are viewed as not independent, but if there is editorial control over the material and it is a reliable source, it can be used for verification purposes; however, it does not count toward establishing that the article meets the General Notability Guidelines. In other words, it's a balancing act between independent, RS and non-independent RS, which should weigh more heavily towards independent. (I said BLPs are hard and this is why, lots of grey areas). SusunW (talk) 19:17, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Did one spur the other?
Hi. I just find it very interesting that the Congress of Allied Women on War Service occurred in Paris in August 1918, and the Inter-Allied Women's Conference occurred in Paris 6 months later. I haven't done the research, but I wonder about the overlap in attendees, etc. Curious if you encountered anything? --Rosiestep (talk) 21:49, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Interesting. Did not know about the earlier conference. At first glance does not appear to be an overlap in attendees, but when I finish the article I am working on may try to see what I can find. SusunW (talk) 21:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
March 2019 at Women in Red
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DYK nomination of Edris Allen, Harold Egbert Allan
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I was looking for some small help.Recently I created a new article en:Kithaab i.e. es:Kithaab-a play about women rights issues- which has been copy edited and is ready for translation in various languages. Looking for your possible help in translating the article en:Kithaab es:Kithaab to your language. If you are unable to spare time yourself then may be you like to refer the same to some other translator to get it translated in their own respective languages.
Thanking you , with warm regards
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- Bookku Thanks so much for asking me. Unfortunately, I only write in English though I speak a little and read Spanish. Looks like you have those 2 covered. Maybe one of the people who watch my page can help. SusunW (talk) 14:07, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi
Hi, how are you doing? I have an unusual request for you. I've been working on writing articles for the redlinks in Colorado Women's Hall of Fame, and one of my primary sources is The Denver Post. But lately they've got it into their heads that I've reached my article limit, even though I haven't accessed their website for a few months. Would you be able to copy this article for me? The link is [3]. Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 23:26, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yoninah, I'd be happy to copy and e-mail it to you. In the meantime, try deleting the cookie for the Denver Post first. I have this problem from time to time with the Washington Post and New York Times. Deleting the cookie so far has worked every time. SusunW (talk) 00:29, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for the email! I tried deleting cookies and indeed, the Denver Post site showed me the article. But does that work with sites that only give you 10 free articles a month, like the New York Times? Yoninah (talk) 14:17, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yoninah yes it works. Lucky you, from Mexico I only get 3 NY Times articles. But I just delete the cookies and get another 3. (I have never found a site that it doesn't work on. Obviously subscription sites are another thing, but if the site limits your articles per month, deleting the cookies seems to work.) SusunW (talk) 16:14, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Great, thanks! Yoninah (talk) 17:06, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yoninah yes it works. Lucky you, from Mexico I only get 3 NY Times articles. But I just delete the cookies and get another 3. (I have never found a site that it doesn't work on. Obviously subscription sites are another thing, but if the site limits your articles per month, deleting the cookies seems to work.) SusunW (talk) 16:14, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for the email! I tried deleting cookies and indeed, the Denver Post site showed me the article. But does that work with sites that only give you 10 free articles a month, like the New York Times? Yoninah (talk) 14:17, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Edris Allan
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DYK for Harold Egbert Allan
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Films on women's suffrage
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Precious anniversary
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Feels like yesterday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:03, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt I cannot believe it has been four years either. Thank you for remembering and your consistent encouragement. Whenever I find the process overwhelming, I literally go back and read your comments of support. It keeps me focused on the work and the import of diversifying our content to be more representative of society. I appreciate your kindness and thoughtfulness more than I can ever say. SusunW (talk) 13:45, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you sooo much. - Passing "precious" is a very selfish thing, because looking at the many reasons to thank first thing in the morning and finding more is good for me ;) - I brought a woman to the main page today, unfortunately because she died, Leonie Ossowski, quite a life, seven children and many more novels for young adults. I watch Deaths in 2019, and sadly find many neglected ones there. Always more challenges! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:59, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, it is true, it is selfish. I learn as much from writing the articles that I write as I impart. I am always amazed and wonder, why was this never taught in school? SusunW (talk) 16:09, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Same. Today: Spas Wenkoff, - didn't know as much about him ever before, although it's a name I grew up with. Nominated for DYK now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:20, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, it is true, it is selfish. I learn as much from writing the articles that I write as I impart. I am always amazed and wonder, why was this never taught in school? SusunW (talk) 16:09, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you sooo much. - Passing "precious" is a very selfish thing, because looking at the many reasons to thank first thing in the morning and finding more is good for me ;) - I brought a woman to the main page today, unfortunately because she died, Leonie Ossowski, quite a life, seven children and many more novels for young adults. I watch Deaths in 2019, and sadly find many neglected ones there. Always more challenges! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:59, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Thank you for article improvements in February! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Gerda Arendt I have struggled a lot this month and am glad for your encouragement. SusunW (talk) 14:05, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Best wishes! Looking forward to women in March, hopefully with you! Let me know if I can help with struggles, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:08, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- ps: if you click on "February" you get to music we sang for my last birthday celebration, my motto for 2019 (we give thanks), and hopefully to be sung again. Our life is a free gift. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:10, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Just trying to make it through the last 4 days of treatment. The end is in sight ;) And yes, life really is a gift for which I am thoroughly thankful. SusunW (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thinking of you with thanks - click on "March" for travel pics - and all the best for successful treatment! - We lost a distant cousin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Gerda Arendt! We postponed the last of the treatments to April. I just could not do anymore. This month was a struggle, but have made it through the other side. SusunW (talk) 22:35, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thinking of you even more! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:37, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Gerda Arendt! We postponed the last of the treatments to April. I just could not do anymore. This month was a struggle, but have made it through the other side. SusunW (talk) 22:35, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thinking of you with thanks - click on "March" for travel pics - and all the best for successful treatment! - We lost a distant cousin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)