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DYK for Althea McNish

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

@Yoninah and Jolly Janner: I'm pinging you as I have no idea how to fix this. This should not be accredited to me. The only things I did with the file were remove the speedy deletion tag, fix some reference issues and add categories. The actual authors should get the credit. SusunW (talk) 16:16, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

The other authors got this message on their talk page too. Not sure why you were added to the credits. Jolly Ω Janner 20:52, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

It looks like one of those cases where the nominator added the names of everyone who helped in any way with the article. Your credit line was added here. There is nothing to fix; if you don't want to include it on your list of DYK credits, just ignore it. (The same thing has happened to me before, and I've just ignored it, too.) Yoninah (talk) 20:15, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks @Yoninah:. I don't like to take credit for other people's work. Won't make a difference to my DYK count to I omit it because I am way over 5 so a QPQ is required and no point in boosting my totals without actual contribution, IMO. Thank you. ;) SusunW (talk) 20:39, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Annie Furuhjelm

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Ida Sedgwick Proper

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar to thank you for your enthusiatic support

A Barnstar to thank you for your contributions Over 800 new articles were created in connection with Art and Feminism
	Women's History Month worldwide online edit-a-thon Host: Women in Red Sponsor: Art+Feminism March 2016 (check out our next event Women writers worldwide online edit-a-thon)

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Thank you for your help and support Ipigott. You are a champion of the project and I truly appreciate all the behind the scenes work you do, as well as the work you put in helping improve my articles. SusunW (talk) 17:25, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

"Women are everywhere"

Hi SusunW. I'm an editor of the Italian Wikipedia. I'm trying to participate to an IEG with the project "Women are everywhere". You will find the draft at this link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_are_everywhere It would be great if you could have a look at it. I need any kind of suggestion or advice to improve it. Support or endorsement would be fantastic. Many thanks,--Kenzia (talk) 08:50, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi SusunW, a special thanks for the article "It's a man's Wikipedia? Assessing Gender Inequality in an Online Encyclopedia" that you posted on the talk page of the IEG. Grazie--Kenzia (talk) 23:09, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Kenzia You are very welcome. I found it very interesting, though I don't agree with all of its findings. What the authors see as a bias in reporting divorces and marriages in the language used to describe men and women, I see as more a reflection of cultural realities of history. Since women's names change in most cultures upon marriage and divorce, sourcing makes no sense if one doesn't have those events in the article. Someone would surely question why you had listed a source for Ulviye Mevlan on an article for Nuriye Yediç if both names weren't mentioned in the article. Compound that with life events, like the doctor who took 10 years to complete her residency, which seems like it must be a mistake, until I found a reference showing she had three children during that time period. While I don't argue that the language in women's articles is often centered on home and family, I don't see that as a systemic bias minimizing women's experience to those areas so much as I see it as a reflection of cultural history. What I see as bias is leaving the women out of men's articles. Why would you list sons and not daughters or fathers and not mothers? That doesn't have a logical explanation to me. SusunW (talk) 23:36, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes SusunW, I found it really interesting at a first reading. I have to read it better, in a critical way. I take your point that reporting divorces and marriages in writing an article should be necessary, both for women and men, to understand the events of one's life. Though the issue of names is very relevant from a gender point of vue. The fact that women's names change in most culture upon marriage and divorce is a reflection of a patriarchal mentality. The name is very important in the construction of one's identity. Even the fact that, for exemple in Italy, we take our name after our father is the reflection of a mentality. Now, there is a law that allow the right to take your mother's name if you wish it, before it wasn't permitted. I think that we don't have to take the issue of names for granted, even if it has been the reflection of the cultural history of a country. Maybe we should make a deeper reflection on this issue. I totally agree with you that it is a bias leaving women out of men's articles. My point is exactly that we should do a real effort to look for the relevant women in the men's lives, make research on them, and write about them, starting from daughters and mothers. In a man's life, especially in a successful man's life, women are determinant, they make the difference. We have to point that out. Until now those relevant women have been inexistant, anonymous for historians. This must change, and I thik that Wikipedia can contribute to that change. Pardon me for my english, I hope that i can make myself understood. --Kenzia (talk) 05:15, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Kenzia Exactly. I don't think we will ever get to a ratio of 50/50 on actual articles, because that is unrealistic and illogical. As long as patriarchy has existed, women have been pushed to the background. There are few that can meet notability standards because there weren't historical opportunities for women to "make a unique mark". If you are making babies and every other woman is making babies too, that isn't very remarkable. Because history is important to measure if progress is made, we will always carry that lopsidedness with us. So eliminating the gender gap in actual stand-alone articles is impossible. But, even if they don't merit an individual entry, women merit mention in the biographies of their significant others. As you said, women made it possible for men to do what they did to be notable. Historically power belonged to families and families don't continue without women. Omitting women only reinforces the attempt to wipe them out of the record. Adding them back in to the lives of the people they interacted with will lessen the gender gap and make the historical record far more balanced. And your English is perfectly fine. Far better than my non-existent Italian. :) SusunW (talk) 06:42, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you SusunW! It's wonderful to share the same point of vue :) --Kenzia (talk) 08:09, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Lin Zongsu

On 9 April 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lin Zongsu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Lin Zongsu's article reporting her discussion of women's suffrage with Sun Yat-sen brought the right to vote into the public arena in China? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lin Zongsu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:11, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Catharine van Tussenbroek

On 10 April 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Catharine van Tussenbroek, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Catharine van Tussenbroek settled the question of the existence of ovarian pregnancy clinically and histologically in 1899? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Catharine van Tussenbroek. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:57, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Shhh! Invitation to Women in Espionage

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Editor of the week

I just noticed your award. Congratulations. Best Charles01 (talk) 11:48, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Charles01 I got it right after women's month concluded and ran off to take some time away. March is stressful and intense, but so rewarding. SusunW (talk) 13:56, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Congratualions from me too. You certainly deserve it. Now you can afford to slow down a bit.--Ipigott (talk) 16:06, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Ipigott I have been taking a much needed break. But... that espionage thing ... well, we all like a good spy story. I did Juliana Mickwitz and am really curious about her background. The surname is neither Finnish nor Russian but NSA says she was "of the Russian aristocracy". I found a birth notice on her dad, he was born in Estonia. I'm wondering if the "estate of her grandfather" was on her mother's side. Curiosity killed the cat, but I do find it fascinating. SusunW (talk) 18:20, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

According to this, Mickwitz seems to be fairly common in Finland while the von Mickwitz's seem to be from Germany. There has always been quite a lot of intermarriage between Estonians and Finns both of whom have mixed with Russians. So Russian aristocracy seems to be reasonable. See all these Mickwitz's with Russian ancestry.--Ipigott (talk) 20:43, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

I found a Russian source that says her family was from Germany, but looking at the genealogy given, they came in the 1700s to Estonia [1]. All were seemingly involved in the clergy, which makes it interesting that she helped found a church. I also found a von Dittmann in Finland who established the first sanatorium there near Vyborg, which was called Halil. Don't know if there is any connection, but it seemed promising. SusunW (talk) 21:12, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

thanks

tweet may make a good dyk? Victuallers (talk) 08:52, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Victuallers after May, I swore off of DYK for a while. It has become brutal. Doesn't really seem interested in promoting new articles, but seems more focused on dotting "i"s, crossing "t"s and what is interesting to reviewers. Since I don't typically write on popular cultural subjects, it just isn't worth the stress involved for me right now. SusunW (talk) 18:04, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Editor of the Week : nominations needed!

The Editor of the Week initiative has been recognizing editors since 2013 for their hard work and dedication. Editing Wikipedia can be disheartening and tedious at times; the weekly Editor of the Week award lets its recipients know that their positive behaviour and collaborative spirit is appreciated. The response from the honorees has been enthusiastic and thankful.

The list of nominees is running short, and so new nominations are needed for consideration. Have you come across someone in your editing circle who deserves a pat on the back for improving article prose regularly, making it easier to understand? Or perhaps someone has stepped in to mediate a contentious dispute, and did an excellent job. Do you know someone who hasn't received many accolades and is deserving of greater renown? Is there an editor who does lots of little tasks well, such as cleaning up citations?

Please help us thank editors who display sustained patterns of excellence, working tirelessly in the background out of the spotlight, by submitting your nomination for Editor of the Week today!

Sent on behalf of Buster Seven Talk for the Editor of the Week initiative by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:18, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the second. AT some point I will incorporate your comments into the nomination prose. Best, Buster Seven Talk 15:19, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Photography

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Rosiestep I am excited about this one. I think it will be like architecture, a double discovery. Identifying amazing women and identifying interesting images :) SusunW (talk) 16:26, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

:) --Rosiestep (talk) 16:31, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

AFC

Your personal instructions for AFC submissions are:

If you see an article in the Draft: space that you think is ready for the mainspace (especially, but not solely, that it is unlikely to get deleted), then WP:MOVE it to the mainspace, delete all the AFC templates from the page, and tell the main editor(s) where to find it.

There's a long list of instructions for editors who have less experience than you, and scripts for people who do this a lot, but I don't think you need to worry about any of that. WP:Be bold and do what's right for the encyclopedia. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:22, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

WhatamIdoing Bless you. I'm referencing it now. Will move it to mainspace when I finish and THANK YOU! SusunW (talk) 21:28, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Articles I would like to write

I see that you have written tons of articles about women. I wonder if you could assist me in a project I have "on the back burner". If you take a look at User:Buster7/The List - Women Artists you'll find a sandbox full of potential articles. I also have User:Buster7/The List - Men Artists. Editor Carptrash and I created the article List of United States post office murals about a year ago. While compiling the mural info I collected the muralists and planned on working on creating articles. I even created some 1/2 dozen or so and that's where I ran into trouble. Without going into too much detail most of the articles were torn apart because of plagiarism claims. I didn't have a good system of referencing etc. and plagiarism did happen...but none was intentional... and, with heavy heart, I just walked away from the project. With your help and guidance, maybe I could re-energize and get back to work. Maybe we could pick a couple of likely candidates and you could show me how to create quality trouble (and plagiarism) free articles. No rush. Whenever you can find the time. Buster Seven Talk 23:59, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Buster7 I would be glad to help. Give me a day or so to finish a project I'm working on and I'll give it a go. SusunW (talk) 01:28, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

I am so happy that the list I created then is now a useful tool and source for article creation. Please dont ever feel rushed or obligated to anything I might say. It takes me awhile to understand stuff, even after all these years of editing. I'm sure we can work together. I just wanted to make sure I wasnt pushing my "I Need to learn how to do it right" onto you. Thank You for teaching me. Buster Seven Talk 18:45, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Buster7 not remotely did I feel pushed. I took a cursory look at them last night, knowing that I would be dealing with some issues in the real world today, but I was captivated with Appel from the git-go. How do these women get so lost, when they were clearly integral parts of their times and places? Ask away, anything at all, if I cannot answer it (and I warn you that technology is not my thing) I will find someone to help. Research, writing, documenting, I can do. WP is not remotely academic, it is the complete opposite of that, but I can use my academic skills. Research is to me like a big puzzle. Finding that elusive piece, which often in the case of women is simply a name, is a real adrenaline rush. I am enthused about your project :) SusunW (talk) 19:04, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

I created...

User:Buster7/Marianne Greer Appel and User:Buster7/Ethel V. Ashton and messed up both. Not sure what you meant by Remove the top two lines and instead paste in this template data [1]. I think I missed a step. Buster Seven Talk 13:38, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Buster7 Not to worry. Look at the Appel template.SusunW (talk) 13:52, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Buster7 Probably my fault on the link to the infobox you have to actually paste the criteria. Scroll to where the page says "Blank template with basic parameters" and copy and paste that into the page. I find it is easier to use the basic one and add criteria like |spouse = or |alma mater = than to use the one with "all" parameters. Look at Ashton. That one I left for you to fill out. Note that I completed the defaultsort info and the birth/death criteria. On both Appel and Ashton, if/until we have the full death date, the template for death won't work, so I just type the date in front of the "hidden" template for death date. SusunW (talk) 13:59, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Women artists of Middle East / North Africa... a WiR & Guggenheim collaboration

File:Monir Portrait-exh ph021.jpg You are invited...
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Thanks

..for all the leg work. I watch what you do (not a stalker) at the varied articles we are working on, to learn the HOW of article creation. Why was this diff neccesary? Just curious so I can understand. What was wrong and how did the diff fix it? Thanks, Buster Seven Talk 14:23, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

As Kermit the Frog says, "It's not easy being Green". Buster Seven Talk 14:34, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Buster7 Not wrong, I don't think there is much in this world that is wrong, right, black or white. It's all grey and flexible. But, if we are trying to make the articles consistent, same style throughout is easier to read. Would that harv styling would load in the templates, but it doesn't. Ultimately, if the article remains a short stub, referencing within the text is fine, but the longer an article becomes, the harder it is to edit with the referencing citations in the text. SusunW (talk) 14:42, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

I'll compare the two versions to see what you mean. Buster Seven Talk 14:46, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Differences in Google searches

Hi Susun. I noticed somewhere you had commented on the differences in Google searches and ascribed it to your IP number. In my experience, the differences are indeed real and may be triggered by your location, the language settings on your PC and/or keyboard, and the search language you use. When researching Danes, for example, I find the Google results can vary quite considerably if I use google.dk rather than google.com. The Danish version turns up many Danish-language sources which are not displayed on an English-language search. That is one of the reasons I am annoyed when an article is sent for AfD when in fact a lot of info can be found in the relevant language. Once or twice, people have been amazed that I have quickly been able to find sources (e.g. about a Finn) when others have found nothing. Another trick is to include the name of a national newspaper or encyclopedia in the search. You may also be interested in this.--Ipigott (talk) 09:31, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Ipigott. Before this, it was just my own info. Now, there is real proof. When we lived in Belize, multiple sites were blocked and almost everyone used a VPN. That's when I noticed if I played around with the country I used to reroute my location, I got different search results. Here in Mexico, I almost always get Spanish language sources before English language sources. SusunW (talk) 13:22, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

I just experienced this during the Berlin conference. What was really bothersome was that while I had full access to some 19th century Welsh books when I was in Nevada, I had no access (not even snippet) to them in Germany. I tried switching language settings, and still no access. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:27, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

@Rosiestep: It's a problem I encounter wherever I go. Here's the sequence I use for the English Google wherever I am : US Google search. Perhaps SusunW can try it out and let me know how it works from Mexico. There are other combinations I use for searches in other languages when I travel. Maybe we should put together a list so that those who are researching "foreign" women can access a full set of results (even if it means using Google Translate or whatever to see what they say)! BTW, if you re-insert the url of the foreign language resource into to US Google search quoted above, you'll see it contains a clickable "Translate" which will provide you with a version in English. I thought everyone knew all about this but apparently not.--Ipigott (talk) 14:56, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

@Ipigott and Rosiestep: You see my dilemma. When I say I can rarely access books, it is because I truly can't from Mexico. When I press on your link, Ian, it takes me to a google page that says https://www.google.com.mx/?gws_rd=cr&ei=iCUiV-m0GIiw-QHp5rPABg If I use a VPN, I can search other places, but I cannot edit WP from the VPN. It is VERY complicated. SusunW (talk) 15:03, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

SusunW That's rather surprising. When I feed your sequence in, I get the Google Mexico in English. Are you getting the Spanish version? Do you not at least get an option for English on the Mexican page? As far as I can see, you get the same results as you would from the United States. What happens if you write http://www.google.com/ncr ? Do you get the same result? Sorry to be pressing you on this but as so many articles are deleted as people cannot find sources on Google, it seems to me to be something of a priority.--Ipigott (talk) 15:48, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Does https://www.google.com.mx/ give results that are substantially different from the google.com?--Ipigott (talk) 15:56, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

I see that it does! I typed in "Noticias" and only received Mexican links. It must be very annoying to have to switch between a VPN and Wikipedia all the time. Can our techies not provide a more viable alternative?--Ipigott (talk) 15:58, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Ipigott when I search I get all sorts of different results. For example:

• This https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl gives me https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=elizbeth+tracy About 46,300,000 results (0.68 seconds)
• this https://www.google.com/?gfe_rd=ssl&ei=LDQiV4G3FIqa-gWOtoG4Bw gives me https://www.google.com/?gfe_rd=ssl&ei=LDQiV4G3FIqa-gWOtoG4Bw#q=elizabeth+tracy About 47,200,000 results (0.85 seconds)
• this https://www.google.com.mx/ gives me https://www.google.com.mx/#q=elizabeth+tracy About 46,200,000 results (0.42 seconds)

Clearly shows that I get less hits from Mexico. And yes, it's very annoying, but I don't have any other choice. SusunW (talk) 16:07, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Curiouser and curiouser. I get exactly the same results and the same time from all three. But that's probably because I'm in Luxembourg. I suppose you noticed the spelling mistake in the first one. If I enter Elizabeth Tracy in the Luxembourg Google I get 42,400,000 results in 0.55 seconds. Otherwise I get around 42,500,000 results in 0.45 seconds. But I imagine the results are displayed differently. If I enter "Xavier Better" (Luxembourg's prime minister) in google.lu, I get an entirely different set of results displayed as compared with google.com, although both sets are in English. If I set the parameters for google.lu to German or French, the results are again quite different. But now I want to move to something more constructive.--Ipigott (talk) 16:30, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) - So glad someone else noticed this, we used to have a AFD nominator who would just throw a link to Google results into their nom claiming that no evidence of notability was proved - more often than not, the links would throw up lots of sourcing, making them look really stupid. I forget who it was now but remember it being really irritating that they refused to listen to my pointing out that we probably weren't seeing the same results as they were. Personally, I think they were just being really lazy and assuming that if they threw a link to Google results in, then people would assume they had done due diligence and just blindly agree... Mabalu (talk) 16:52, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Mabalu I have seen that claim a lot. Some of it is clearly a lack of initiative, but obviously, as the above shows, we all get different results. It has been a pain in my side forever that my book results are significantly less than if I use the VPN and select a US IP address. By the by, Ipigott I corrected the spelling, but got exactly the same results just in less time. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=elizabeth+tracy About 46,300,000 results (0.54 seconds) SusunW (talk) 17:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

At my age

...3 things start to fade; hearing, sight and, um, I can't remember the third. Yesterday I was following the trail of one of the artists on The List and I called the library in Rochelle IL to confirm they had the mural and it was still hanging above their fireplace. It was not a WPA mural. But now, a day later, Ive forgotten the muralist's name. Any hint as to who it might be? Buster Seven Talk 12:41, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Nevermind. Found her. The Flagg Township Public Library of Rochelle, Illinois has a wonderful collection of New Deal art. It includes “Merry Go Round”, an oil on canvas mural by Ethel Spears done in 1939.' Buster Seven Talk 13:02, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

• Progrssive and New Deal Art For your weekend reading pleasure. Lots of great shots of murals. I Wonder how to acquire them. My limited understanding is because they were created by federal employees, images of them are available for general public use. Yyou probably know more than I on the issue...or maybe one of your friendly stalkers knows? Buster Seven Talk 15:41, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

“Merry Go Round” A freely licensed WPA mural by Ethel Spears she did in 1939

That's entirely correct @Buster7:. I enjoyed the pdf. So I have made sure you can find the painting again A Friendly Stalker?

Happy birthday on this special Su-Sunday

Here are a few traditional sprigs of Lily of the Valley to celebrate your birthday à la française. This year it's not only on May Day but also on a Sunday. Many Happy Returns!--Ipigott (talk) 09:06, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Ian I love that my birthday is a holiday in so many places. There are street parties and dancing this evening, here. SusunW (talk) 13:07, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Yva is a great example of the work that you do for mitigating the gender gap. Thanks Susun for this one, noting that there are other that also deserve our gratitude. That sounds too formal ... so .... "Yay Susun Wooo!" Victuallers (talk) 09:22, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Victuallers Her images totally captivated me. Then the story was so compelling and tragic. These are the "discoveries" that keep me doing editathons. Loved doing her. Thank you SusunW (talk) 13:09, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

Some flowers to celebrate your birthday. I ordered a dozen roses for the occasion but I think these are tulips. So glad to be learning from you. Have a great day! Buster Seven Talk 12:09, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Buster7 thank you! It has been a joy to work on the mural ladies with you. Thanks for helping me celebrate.SusunW (talk) 13:13, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Have a happy, happy, happy! Montanabw^(talk) 03:18, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Montanabw Had a great day! SusunW (talk) 15:55, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Birthday cake

Yum!

Happy Birthday, Susun! Wishing you much happiness, plus cake! --Rosiestep (talk) 21:46, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Rosiestep thank you so much! Am having a lovely day. Not editing much, but enjoying myself. SusunW (talk) 22:05, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Happy birthday Susun. Long time we edited on some article.Nvvchar. 02:34, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the birthday wishes Nvvchar I have cut back on how much time I am on here and probably won't be increasing my participation until Fall. My real life is kind of hectic right now. But, if you want my help, leave a message, I will try to respond. SusunW (talk) 15:58, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Can you have a go at this please Template:Did you know nominations/Gold Wreaths from Thrace?Nvvchar. 01:51, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Nvvchar I'll try to start on it later today. Been dealing with bureaucratic nonsense for 2 days, but I may have managed to have them correct my address back to the correct address I originally gave them, which they assumed, incorrectly, must be wrong *sigh* SusunW (talk) 13:40, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Nvvchar A day later than I thought I would be due to real world complications. I have tried to rework the article, but this is really outside my area of expertise. I know virtually nothing of Bulgarian ancient history. What I gather from the article is that inner Thrace was where present-day Bulgaria lay. Thrace itself covered a much wider swath of territory. Thus, I have tried to use inner Thrace when speaking about the Bulgarian finds. Clearly the wreaths in question are only those found in what is now Bulgaria. You might need someone who knows a bit more about the history of the area and the archaeology to have a look at the article. I think it would benefit from a discussion of when the artifacts were actually found. I haven't been able to uncover anything from here, as most sources end up talking about finds in Macedonia. SusunW (talk) 00:03, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks for the edits. I have not been able to find any additional references. I even asked a user from Bulgaria for help. He seems to be busy otherwise. Nvvchar. 10:13, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
• Can you please suggest an alt hook. Thanks.Nvvchar. 01:47, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Nvvchar I'd probably go with something like Did you know that ... a gold wreath from Thrace was recovered from an auction in 2015 and returned to Bulgaria’s National Museum of History? SusunW (talk) 02:01, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

An award for your contributions

The Mary Wollstonecraft award for all your contributions on Women Writers Almost 400 new articles were created
	Women Writers worldwide online edit-a-thon Hosts: Women in Red, Women writers April 2016 (check out our next event Women in Photography worldwide online edit-a-thon)

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Ipigott Thank you. I didn't create as many as I would have liked to have done, but the real world has been complicated recently. SusunW (talk) 17:17, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Ditto here in Luxembourg where we are hosting a family reunion later this week. A number of the guests will be staying with us for a few more days. So I don't think I'll have much time for Wikipedia this month either.--Ipigott (talk) 10:21, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Ipigott Sounds like fun. Enjoy! SusunW (talk) 14:52, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Busy Lady

From the above I can see you are quite busy. No prob... The List has been on the back burner for a year. No rush! With your lead and guidance I will start to create some drafts, etc. and wait till you are less busy. Just knowing you are watching me "drive the new car" is solace that you wont let me have any accidents, As always, take care. Buster Seven Talk 14:21, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

I have the book, Artists in California 1780-1940, from my library. How can I help you? Buster Seven Talk 21:34, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Buster7 Check any of our artists in the book and see if there are facts that we can snag. Since they are all on the page, (well 2 pages with the guys' page) it should be fairly easy to scroll through and see if any of them are mentioned. Just make a notation of the info and page number. Sorry, I'm so bogged down with real world stuff right now, but such is the way of it. I thought I could shake loose today, but it is going to be tomorrow or Friday. SusunW (talk) 03:41, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Not much found for Women, will scan Men later today. Buster Seven Talk 10:35, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

I just applied for newspaper.com Buster Seven Talk 17:16, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Buster7 Sorry, have been away most of the day working on a case. At any rate, I hope the book proves more useful for the guys. Frustrating when you think you have found a gold mine and instead you found a pile of Pyrite. I think you will be very happy to have newspapers.com it is a very useful tool, IMO. SusunW (talk) 00:06, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Never a problem. It always bothers me when I visit other editors talk pages and I see demands being made for that editors time and effort. We are all volunteers and we have lives in real time. I have 13 grandchildren which means I attend a lot of sporting events, piano recitals, dance performances, school plays, graduations, grandparents days, trips to the zoo or a movie, etc. etc. I'm retired but still work about 20 hours a week. Life fills our day and if we are lucky we might get and hour or two of Wiki Time. So....never a need to apologize. I will always understand. TRA! Buster Seven Talk 05:34, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Teamwork barnstar

		Teamwork barnstar
		I am honored to present you with this Teamwork barnstar for your assisting another editor in improving the article User:Buster7's List of Women Mural artists. Collaborative editing is a hallmark of Wikipedia, and is one of the surest ways to retain editors and to make Wikipedia a better place... and you have done both. Thank you, Buster Seven Talk 09:31, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Buster7 I really agree that teamwork is what makes WP more tolerable. If it weren't for the connections we make and the pure joy of creating articles, the atmosphere on here would be hard to bear. SusunW (talk) 01:51, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

I have been "playing" at being a Wikipedia editor for many years. I am proud of my previous involvements and the work I have accomplished, But this morning I feel like a proud PaPa. Marianne Appel will always be special to me as my first real act as an "Encyclopedia-ist" Buster Seven Talk 16:16, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Buster7 Okay, now nominate her for DYK. I took her live, did all the gnoming stuff. Except that I have no idea how to make her IMDb entry show Harms and not Appel?? If it's your first DYK, you don't even have to do a QPQ. You cannot use the photo, as it is fair use. SusunW (talk) 16:24, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

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Martianne Appel has been nominated for Did You Know

Hello, SusunW. Martianne Appel, an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 12:00, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Thats Funny!!! Mar-T-ianne. Will they notice their mistake? Anyway. I wonder if you can help me with something ive been researching for about 10 years...off and on. I now have access to newspaper.com and have taken the 5 minute tutorial. Its gonna take me a while to find my way around the place but it looks great and very useful. The first name I tried to find was "Hal Foster". I have an old painting in an Art Deco style frame of a jaguar in a tree in a jungle. It is signed "Foster" in the lower left corner. No date or other indentifiers. The person I bought it from tells me that his dying Aunt was a student at The Art Institute of Chicago...no date...but she is old so I put her student days somewhere in the 30's or 40's...could even be the 20's. Don't know for sure. Ive done some research over the years and the only Foster that might "fit" is Hal Foster (1892-1982) who studied in Chgo, at the AIC and The Nat/l Acad of Design and the CHGO Acad of Fine Arts all about the same time as Mrs Johnson. (Not sure of her name but her nephew was Larry Johnson). At the time of her passing she lived in Evanston, IL and seemed to have been a long term resident (having visited her home and met her and many family members that lived near each other). From looking at her furnishings and art and trinkets, she was definitely a connoisseur of fine but eclectic things. Anyway....my research led me to "Harold Rudolf Foster" aka Hal Foster who wrote and illustrated the Prince Valiant cartoon strip and illustrated stuff book covers and the comic strip) for Edgar Rice Burroughs Tarzan series. So...the format fits (jungle) and the name fits (Foster) and the time fits (Mrs Johnson may have been a student around the same time at the same schools). Ive always wanted to be able to more accurately pinpoint "Foster" on my own before I get the painting appraised. I don't know if this is appropriate here at WP but I am willing to reimburse you for your time. There is absolutely no rush or obligation. The last thing I would want is to ruin our working relationship. I am learning and doing so much. Ive had the painting 15 years and it has found a happy home on the wall in the den (aka "my man cave"). See you at The List Of Women Muralists. TRA!! Buster Seven Talk 15:48, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

It got fixed, not to worry. Yay, looks like it got approved too. I'll look into it. No pay required. But, it may take a while. Trying to get things lined up for our walkabout of Eastern Europe in June and the artists and photographers for this month done ;) SusunW (talk) 15:57, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Later tonite Ill take a photo, put it in Commons, and then you can see it. Take all the time you want. A year if necessary. TRA! Buster Seven Talk 21:13, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

• File:Image of black panther in a tree , signed "Foster".jpg I'm headed for a walk-about in Central Il for a few days. I'll do DYK-#2 when I get back. Buster Seven Talk 11:37, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

thx

tweet of your new article #wikiwomeninred Victuallers (talk) 15:00, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Victuallers Thanks! I love that photo. SusunW (talk) 16:15, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

... and this one?

Victuallers Thank you mi amigo. Goudstikker isn't ready yet. Slow going translating German for the early life part. Now to figure out what to put in historically vs. what people want to see in the part of her life that is readily available in English. ;) SusunW (talk) 01:15, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Ethel V. Ashton has been nominated for Did You Know

Hello, SusunW. Ethel V. Ashton, an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 14:24, 18 May 2016 (UTC)