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Dear Mr. 78.26,

updating on Sinfonia Latina Music Festival/Roberto McCausland Dieppa, both seminal.

Regards,

Cherkes

https://www.elheraldo.co/sociedad/el-pianista-roberto-mccausland-revive-su-sinfonia-latina-964305

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Sources for Vineet Singh

Hey 78.26 Hope you are doing good!! You had deleted the page Vineet Singh (Now after his name's spelling change Vinit Singh) as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vinit Singh (2nd nomination) in 2018. He now got featured in Indian Idol 13 as one of the most prominent contestant because he has a playback career as he has playbacked in movies like Khiladi 786, Prem Ratan Dhan Payo, Policegiri, Action Jackson (2014 film), Moods with Melodies,etc after he debuted with Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Challenge 2005, there are now sources about him which are notable sources, So i am willing to recreate the page, Please share your opinion regarding this, Thanks

A couple of new sources which are notable and independent too are :[1], [2], [3].

Thanks Surya^beej ^⋠talk⋡ 07:20, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Suryabeej: I'd be willing to restore it to draft space so you can work on it, unless you want to start from scratch. I'm not entirely convinced by all of the sources you sent (the first one seems like breathless idolizing, not neutral reporting), but if you think it can pass AfC then go ahead and try that process. Let me know. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 00:58, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

78.26: Hey apologies for responding late! Sure, If you can Restore the draft I am willing to work on it. Thanks!! Surya^beej ^⋠talk⋡ 08:11, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm running into some Wikipedia server errors when attempting to restore. I'm going to be mostly offline for the next few days, so I beg patience. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 11:37, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Third time was the charm. @Suryabeej: I have restored to draft: Draft:Vinit Singh. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 11:41, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism - revision-deletion request

You were kind enough to quickly remove several defamatory edits of Rory Phillips (DJ) made by User_talk:95.147.222.131 but the defamatory elements are still visible in the two edits made to remove them by User_talk:162.195.122.96 is it possible to remove these too? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Letsnotstart (talk • contribs) 21:25, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Letsnotstart: - you are correct, and good catch. Done. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 00:39, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Persistant vandalism

@78.26: The Seventh-day Adventist Church article is still being persistantly vandalized. Can you please protect it again. Catfurball (talk) 16:23, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Catfurball: I dunno. These are pretty watched pages and they've been reverted (and blocked) very quickly. It's a borderline case. A better place to make this request is Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. I'm online/editing more sporadically than I used to be, so might not be able to respond before the report goes "stale". All the best, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 23:52, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:12, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:78.26#c-2806:2F0:62C0:C653:137F:9572:3CA0:414-20240629171200(UTC) 2806:2F0:62C0:C653:137F:9572:3CA0:414 (talk) 17:12, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Oghema Niagara

Hello, 78.26. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Oghema Niagara".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:40, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It always feels strange to leave these notices on the talk pages of long-time editors and admins. Of course, if you want to work on this draft, you can restore it whenever you like. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:42, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: Yeah, sorry about that. I should finish that up, it's a very interesting story and highly notable, but there's so much conflicting information. I'll restore it when I'm ready to take it up again. In the meantime, thank you so much for all the hard work you do here. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:16, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It's nice to see you around, I've noticed at AFD that we are a little light on admin help on Saturdays. I think folks take a well-deserved day off. Then they show up mid-day Sunday and things are back to normal. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:15, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, well count me among those who don't help out on Saturdays, sorry. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 04:26, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Grey Gull Records artists

A tag has been placed on Category:Grey Gull Records artists indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:12, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you mean

Here... did you mean to say do not? ;) Regardless, thanks for watching the page. Silikonz💬 01:43, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Silikonz: Oof, thanks for catching that! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 01:45, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No prob :) Silikonz💬 01:45, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request for edit summary deletion

I was wondering if you could hide the edit summaries of this recently blocked IP's edits as they promote racial hatred and uses a racial slur. Thank you in advance. Yue🌙 01:21, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Yue: Thank you.

Done 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 01:40, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting text of a deleted article

Hello, Unless I am mistaken you are an admin on this project and have expressed willingness to provide the text of deleted pages to users who may need them. If this is correct, may I please ask you to send me the text of I due evasi di Sing Sing. I had opened a deletion review to have the page restored but was advised to recreate it instead. Which I might do more easily with whatever material had already been written. If you agree, could you please input the text on this page for instance? Thank you very much for your help. Yours, — MY, OH, MY! 21:41, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mushy Yank: I have restored the page to your user space. You'll find it at: User:Mushy Yank/I due evasi di Sing Sing. Please don't restore it to main space until it is properly sourced to reliable sources. Happy editing! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 00:22, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and thank you again. The page is now in the Main, as you can see. Only the editing history is missing (it is on my user's space page, though). I sort of remember there was a template or possible transfer to credit users who started the page before it was deleted. I will look up and try to do it. Apologies if it was needed before restoring it to the Main, Yours, — MY, OH, MY! 22:25, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mushy Yank: This could be resolved by deleting what's currently on the main page, and moving what's currently in your user space. Would you like me to do that? 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 23:12, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. If it is not too much work, I'd be very grateful if you can, yes. It seems the page has already been modified in the Main by another user, but if it's still possible for you to do it, thank you. I had also let a merge request (I guess) on the TP but if that does not interfere with your effort, again, thank you for help! — MY, OH, MY! 23:20, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mushy Yank: Yeah that gumms it up. I don't have time to do it right now, so I requested a history merge. I'm not sure I agree with the intervening edit, but I don't know much about WP:FILMMOS. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 00:25, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thank you! I am not sure either about that edit (I've left a note on the project page). Anyway, thanks again. — MY, OH, MY! 00:30, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request for edit summary deletion

Hello, again. I was wondering if you could hide the edit summaries of this recently blocked IP's edits as they contain hateful and racist messages. Have a great weekend and thank you once again. Yue🌙 23:39, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

maybe a tps admin could do this? I’m basically offline and will be until Monday evening. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 23:51, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Got it, have a great weekend then! Yue🌙 00:53, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting text of deleted edits

Greetings from Delhi! Could you please put the drafts of my deleted edits in my userspace and point me to them? I will combine them into a single redraft. I have been communicating with Grayfell. Awaiting your message. SuchetaR (talk) 08:58, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing to restore to your userspace, as none of your edits have been deleted. The self-promotion edits can be viewed in the article history. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 01:55, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Edit Day!

Hey, 78.26. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Have a great day! interstate five 00:04, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Edit Day!

Request for deleted article text

Hello 78.26, May I bother you again and ask you to send me the text of I Crab Goalkeeper or its draft Draft:Crab Goalkeeper. As I found some sources, I would like to recreate the page and, again, I might do it more easily with whatever material had already been written. If you agree, could you please create the subpage on my behalf User:Mushy Yank/Crab Goalkeeper? (or what's the most easy for you) Thank you very much for your help. If you'd rather have me ask another admin next time, just let me know. Thanks again. Yours, — MY, OH, MY! 10:13, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mushy Yank:

Done 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 16:38, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. Yours, — MY, OH, MY! 16:41, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Bob Harrington (preacher)

On 28 May 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bob Harrington (preacher), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that evangelist Bob Harrington would drive miles out of his way to avoid the sight of a steeple? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bob Harrington (preacher). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Bob Harrington (preacher)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Aoidh (talk) 00:03, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gary Greenhill

Hi 78.26, I'm a little confused how you get NC for this? The first three keeps were rebutted by three different people and no additional sources had been added/found after that. The fourth keep had no P&G basis at all, and the sixth keep spuriously claimed GNG from tabloid coverage was allowed. Most editors acknowledged the generally poor, tabloid quality of the sources, so given that everything alleged to be SIGCOV was exclusively on minor criminal events that received only fleeting attention in local news, wouldn't BLP and NOTNEWS policy override a claim of meeting GNG? JoelleJay (talk) 01:36, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JoelleJay: I think my closing statement explains it well enough. I'm sure you think that your side has utterly destroyed the other side's argument, but there were significant source analysis on both sides, and I found no way to reconcile the positions. I'm sure the other side feels just as strongly they obliterated your side's arguments. Both are policy based. There is fundamental disagreement as to whether or not there is SIGCOV in independent, reliable sources, and there is fundamental disagreement as to whether or not this is BLP1E. Any close other than NOCONSENSUS would be a supervote, in my opinion. If you feel the close is that erroneous that it needs to be overturned without re-litigating the article, then take it to DRV. Happy editing!78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:27, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your explanation...I was under no impression that the delete side was clearly stronger, rather my confusion was that the close doesn't address at all the BLP arguments, in particular the tabloid sourcing issues for negative content. Almost everyone agreed that the sources "weren't good", and the ones called SIGCOV were uniformly negative news announcements, so I would have appreciated more assessment of how an article written from those sources could comply with Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources. [...] Biographies of living persons ("BLPs") must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives and NOTNEWS. JoelleJay (talk) 03:41, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tabloid sourcing for negative content isn't a notability discussion, that is a content discussion. AfD is the wrong venue. I also disagree with the characterization that "almost everyone" agree the sources weren't good. I'd call it much closer to 50/50. Some of the keeps arguments stated that "some" of the sources weren't good, but that overall there were enough "good" sources to pass notability. If "almost everyone" agreed the sources "weren't good", I would have readily closed as delete. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 03:54, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk:The Storm Before the Calm#Euro label

@78.26: Share your thoughts regarding the album if you wish to. 2001:D08:2901:372C:176E:668A:26DB:24BF (talk) 18:23, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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By longtime precedent, record labels were judged by a inverse interpretation of NMUSIC #5.. carrying on from your comment on AfD. I don't want to go further in discussion and stray too far off from the actual discussion AfD. Can you maybe link me to some notable decisions spread over time? Graywalls (talk) 23:28, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Steve Turley

I was wondering if you could draftify/userfy this article for me. You deleted it five years ago per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Turley, but I think the subject might be notable now, having received coverage with The Return of the American Patriot, a film he directed in 2022.[4][5] St Anselm (talk) 19:49, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@StAnselm:

Done You'll find it at User:StAnselm/Steve Turley. Let me know if I messed it up somehow. Happy editing! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 22:53, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. St Anselm (talk) 02:34, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Darren Trumeter

Hey, 78.26,

You recently restored this draft but because you didn't make a minor edit to the page after restoration, it was tagged for CSD G13 speedy deletion. Luckily, an editor checked the page log and saw that it was recently restored and untagged it before it was deleted. I recommend checking out User:SD0001/RFUD-helper to help with REFUND as it will take care of these steps so you don't have to remember them.

Hope all is well with you...have a great weekend! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:59, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz Thanks so much! What would I do without those who can write these scripts? Works like a charm. Likewise, hope you're doing very well. All the best, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 01:08, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiCup 2023 November newsletter

The WikiCup is a marathon rather than a sprint and all those reaching the final round have been involved in the competition for the last ten months, improving Wikipedia vastly during the process. After all this hard work, BeanieFan11 has emerged as the 2023 winner and the WikiCup Champion. The finalists this year were:-

BeanieFan11 with 2582 points
Thebiguglyalien with 1615 points
Epicgenius with 1518 points
MyCatIsAChonk with 1012 points
BennyOnTheLoose with 974 points
AirshipJungleman29 with 673 points
Sammi Brie with 520 points
Unlimitedlead with 5 points

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether they made it to the final round or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the competition, some of whom did very well. Wikipedia has benefitted greatly from the quality creations, expansions and improvements made, and the numerous reviews performed. All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.

Unlimitedlead wins the featured article prize, for 7 FAs in total including 3 in round 2.
MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured list prize, for 5 FLs in total.
Lee Vilenski wins the featured topic prize, for a 6-article featured topic in round 4.
MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured picture prize, for 6 FPs in total.
BeanieFan11 wins the good article prize, for 75 GAs in total, including 61 in the final round.
Epicgenius wins the good topic prize, for a 41-article good topic in the final round.
LunaEatsTuna wins the GA reviewer prize, for 70 GA reviews in round 1.
MyCatIsAChonk wins the FA reviewer prize, for 66 FA reviews in the final round.
Epicgenius wins the DYK prize, for 49 did you know articles in total.
Muboshgu wins the ITN prize, for 46 in the news articles in total.

The WikiCup has run every year since 2007. With the 2023 contest now concluded, I will be standing down as a judge due to real life commitments, so I hope that another editor will take over running the competition. Please get in touch if you are interested. Next year's competition will hopefully begin on 1 January 2024. You are invited to sign up to participate in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors. It only remains to congratulate our worthy winners once again and thank all participants for their involvement! (If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.) Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:51, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

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Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
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Thanks for the ...

... nice closure. Paul August ☎ 18:52, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.

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Fix a random page lacking sources

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An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

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Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

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WikiCup 2024 February newsletter

The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima (submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), with one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs;
Vami_IV (submissions), with one FA on Doom (2016 video game), one GA on Boundary Fire (2017), and 11 reviews;
MaranoFan (submissions), with one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and two DYKs;
Skyshifter (submissions), with one FA on OneShot and one DYK;
Sammi Brie (submissions), with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations;
voorts (submissions) and Elli (submissions), both with one FA and one DYK each.

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:57, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Page Deletion

Greetings, I hope this finds you well, i will like to get more information while my page was deleted and how to get it approved under the wikipedia guidelines Brightheseer (talk) 09:52, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Brightheseer:. Your page was deleted because user pages are to describe who you are in relation to your activities on Wikipedia. The Conflict of Interest disclosure was appropriate, even necessary. The advertisement for a seer is entirely inappropriate for Wikipedia. Articles about topics belong in mainspace when developed, and in your personal sandbox or in draftspace while in development. However, your text would be unacceptable in any location on Wikipedia because it was blatantly promotional (see WP:NPOV). It also does not meet the notability requirements for an article, so this must also be addressed before the topic can be considered for inclusion. Because you have a conflict of interest, you must use the Articles for Creation process. I hope that helps. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 17:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:78rpm

Hello, 78.26,

Hey, I hope you are doing well this winter. I'm just leaving you a reminder that any time you restore a draft article or user sandbox that has been deleted due to CSD G13 criteria, you need to make an edit to the page or it shows up as eligible for deletion again. This is, as you might guess, because there have been no edits to this article in a few years so it is considered stale and abandoned. I've made an edit to the draft so you are good for another 6 months. Take care, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:51, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copy article

Hey, hope all’s well?

Can you please copy my article to the user page please? Claudy Beats (talk) 22:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Claudy Beats: I'm afraid I don't understand your request. Your article is already at your user page. (User:Claudy Beats/sandbox). Please clarify. Thanks! PS, this draft very strongly violates our WP:NPOV policy. I hope that is helpful. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 03:07, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh okay, if it is in the userpage ok. I was trying to write a biography, O don’t know how to do that correctly. Thank you! Claudy Beats (talk) 12:37, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First of all you need to read and adhere to WP:COI, WP:NPOV and WP:PROMO. I do not want to be unkind, but frankly if someone asked me to delete your draft for advertising, I would do so. I understand it is not your intent to do anything "wrong", but this is an encyclopedia, not a place to post your resume or press releases. Phrases like "remarkable journey and accomplishments serve as an inspiration to many" have no place in an encyclopedia. How can that possibly present an objective, dispassionate view of the topic? That's why you really shouldn't create an Wikipedia:Autobiography. How can someone be expected to be objective about themselves? You make such claims as "has published several books that have received critical acclaim." What critical acclaim? From whom? Without citations to reliable, independent sources, these claims are empty and completely promotional. I hope that is helpful. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 04:29, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 March newsletter

The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:

Generalissima (submissions), who has 916 points mostly from one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher), 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews
Vami_IV (submissions), who has 790 points from two FAs on Felix M. Warburg House and Doom (2016 video game), two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews
AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who has 580 points from one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews
Sammi Brie (submissions), who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations
MaranoFan (submissions), who has 351 points from one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and three DYKs
Skyshifter (submissions), who has 345 points from one FA on OneShot, one DYK and two reviews

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV (submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – March 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Administrator changes

Bureaucrat changes

SilkTork

Guideline and policy news

Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.

Technical news

The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

Miscellaneous

The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.

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user recovery

Hamisi Gift Musitwa popularly known as Volvexzshawa kindly research his Wikipedia was deleted and his a notable musician in Kenya Teresia Akinyi Achilo (talk) 06:26, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Teresia Akinyi Achilo: I cannot restore this. It was deleted by community discussion. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Volvexzshawa If you think the deleting administrator misjudged the discussion you can file a report at WP:DRV. As I have read the discussion I would strong urge against this. If you have multiple reliable WP:INDEPENDENT sources from which to write an article, then I would start an article in draftspace via WP:AFC. I hope this helps. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 12:15, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award

		Citation Barnstar
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Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles

Hi there,

I am new to wikipedia and have had my recent article submission deleted. Can you please copy the content to my user page, so I can save the content and make the requested changes for resubmission?

Thanks Preet Kalkat (talk) 00:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Preet Kalkat: I'm sorry, but your page was deleted for copyright reasons, and I can't restore copyright violations. Please write your proposal in your own words, with different phrasing and structure than your sources. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 12:25, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

unable to add pictures to my first wikipedia page

I am creating a new page for me but unable to add pictures Ambarish2anand (talk) 09:13, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ambarish2anand: Your page was deleted, because frankly it's one of the worst examples of self-promotion I've ever seen. I don't want to be unkind, but this is an encyclopedia, not a place to advertise yourself. Definitely read WP:COI and WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY before you attempt to make any further edits about yourself. I hope that is helpful. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 00:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiCup 2024 April newsletter

We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.

Our current top scorers are as follows:

Sammi Brie (submissions) with 642 points, mostly from 11 GAs about radio and television;
voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three GAs;
Generalissima (submissions) with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history;
SounderBruce (submissions) with 497 points, mostly from a FA about the 2020 season of the soccer club Seattle Sounders FC and two GAs;
Tamzin (submissions) with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink Capri-Sun and three GAs;
Kusma (submissions) with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist Anna Blackburne and a GA.

Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Wikipedia policies or processes to receive more points.

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Happy First Edit Day!

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I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Fifteen Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for fifteen years or more.

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Erik Desiderio

You know I am confused by this AfD deletion, how does a person with SIGCOV like [6], [7], [8], who has won the Los Angeles Live Score Film Festival, and also a recipient of a Global Music Award of Excellence for The Four Players, the Clive Davis Award for Excellence in Music? [9]. Govvy (talk) 10:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of that was brought up in the discussion. If I were to close any other way than what I did, it would be a super vote, because I would be inserting my own opinion into the close. Because discussion consensus was clear-cut I closed without resisting. I am willing to re-open the discussion if you wish to present new information for consideration. All the best, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 13:36, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you reopen the discussion I would post a similar comment. He is not that well known in his field, but has a certain amount of recognition to get those awards, I would have thought it would easily pass WP:BASIC, well that's my two-cents, Regards. Govvy (talk) 16:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.

The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:

Sammi Brie (submissions) with 707 points, mostly from 45 good article nomination reviews and 12 good articless about radio and television;
Generalissima (submissions) with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 did you know nominations about coinage and history;
SounderBruce (submissions) with 552 points, mostly from a featured article about the 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season, three featured lists, and two good articles;
BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player John Pulman, two featured lists, and one good article;
voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three good articles.

The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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Undeleting Draft:Michael_Masch

Original message: I'd like the Michael Masch draft page to be restored to draft status even though it's been through the AfD process. I've been told to contact the admin of the Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Michael_Masch discussion and it looks like that was you. New references are available for this person since page was deleted due to NPOL concerns. He passed away in 2021 and there are obituaries in The Philadelphia Inquirer and The Jewish Exponent. There are also articles about him preceding his death but I don't know if they were cited in the original draft so I'd like to see it. Is there a way I can do that?

Update: I'd mistaken the admin of the AfD process who told me 78.26 was the actual admin. 78.26 asked me to provide the three best references, which I list below. There are more as well.

First set includes obituaries in The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Jewish Exponent, and Howard University
The Philadelphia City Council passed a resolution honoring Masch after he passed which lists notable achievements - to me this is a reliable secondary source but would be curious for an opinion.
There are also two articles in The Philadelphia Inquirer about him from his time as chief budget director for Philadelphia (1994) and as Budget Secretary for Pennsylvania (2003). Note Ed Rendell was Mayor of Philadelphia for the first one and Governor of Pennsylvania for the second one.

Nnev66 (talk) 15:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)

The deleted article had none of those citations. Most of the citations were to .edu site pages, a couple of blogs, a press release, and primary sources. There is one citation to Howard University but not that obituary (and I would say that university newspapers don't count toward notability). It isn't surprising it got deleted with such poor sourcing. I think it's worth restoring to draft space based on what you found, but I'll leave that up to 78.26, who closed the AFD and deleted it. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note the AfD discussion happened in 2019 and this person passed away two years later in 2021 so sources in my first two bullets weren’t available at the time of the AfD discussion. I don’t know why the original page creator(s) didn’t use more reliable secondary sources from earlier times though… Nnev66 (talk) 17:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nnev66: So the short story is that this person is semi-notable, and if it went to AfD with the sources you give here I'd give it a 60% chance of deletion and 40% chance of being kept through "no consensus" or "keep". To be more specific about your sources, everything is quite local. The Inquirer obituary is ok, as is the Jewish Exponent. These do not appear to be obituaries sent in, but written by journalists. That's good. The others seem like routine coverage. The City Council resolution is likewise merely local coverage. All of these sources are good to use in an article, but I'm not sure they'd add up to notability. Can you find coverage outside the Philadelphia area? In any case, I'm going to restore it to draft space, and if you feel like working on it given, and want me to look at it when you're done, I'll be happy to. Keep in mind that my views on notability are my own, and although I'm fairly well versed on the Notability policy, in marginal cases like this you'll get different answers from different editors, which is why we have the consensus process here. (I should note that my opinion as an admin carries no more weight than any other editor.) I hope you find that helpful. All the best, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 03:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can find it at Draft:Michael Masch. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 04:03, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for restoring the Draft which I see is written like a resume with no reliable secondary sources. In the next couple of weeks I'll revise it to read more like an encyclopedia entry, extracting what is notable about the subject and adding reliable secondary sources. Not sure I'll find references outside Philly/PA since the subject is mainly notable there. There are a lot of articles about Philadelphia topics and notable people that need attention. Nnev66 (talk) 02:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to ping me also if you want another set of eyes to look it over when you're done. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:10, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Anachronist! I've revised the draft and have a question I'd love to get your input on. Should I do that on your Talk page (sorry, I'm still learning protocol here)? Nnev66 (talk) 14:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can do it on any page but may be best to ping me on the draft talk page. I do respond to pings. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, draft talk page is best. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 19:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I put a question and a comment about notability on the Draft talk page. I'll stop posting here. Thanks both. Nnev66 (talk) 19:58, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Request for a previously deleted article

Hello,

Myself along with a group of other people are trying to dig up some info about the band Cojum Dip, its early history being somewhat fuzzy. As such, would you be able to send me a copy of the page Cojum Dip, and the dates of edits that were made to the page before its deletion? Although it redirects to Tally Hall since 2023, it used to have some content in 2005 before being deleted shortly after in 2006. That page also used to contain Image:wow.jpg, and I would also appreciate if you can recover this image.

Thank you very much. 57EML (talk) 19:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@57EML: sorry for the slow reply, and I messed up anyway. Perhaps it'll be kept, but I meant to create a sandbox for you where you could see the history. Anyway, you can now see the deleted history at the redirect page. There's absolutely nothing encyclopedic about the deleted versions, but you can see what the band thought about itself at the time. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 01:23, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! 57EML (talk) 15:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).

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Phase II of the 2024 RfA review has commenced to improve and refine the proposals passed in Phase I.

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Text of a deleted page

Hello 78.26, how are you? @DareshMohan told me he was willing to recreate an article deleted in 2009 (Indonesian horror film, 2007, titled Kuntilanak 2). Do you think you could create a page with the deleted content (Draft or User space), if you prefer), so that we can make sure the pages are different (and also save time and restore potential credits, maybe). Thanks a lot! Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC) Note: DareshMohan had left a similar request on User:JzG's TP ([10]) but is JzG still an administrator? (I see a Rouge admin box on their page; but otherwise cannot confirm it); If they are, sincere apologies for this fauxpas and confusion. If they aren't, 78.26 do you mind doing it? Thanks a lot. Best,-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:18, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. @Mushy Yank: You can find it at User:Mushy Yank/Kuntilanak 2. JzG is no longer an administrator, but continues to greatly benefit the encyclopedia. Looks like he hasn’t been online for a few days. Anyway, hope that’s helpful. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 16:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, as always. Yours, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Restore deleted userspace text to my draft page

Hi there, I received a notice that my sandbox page was deleted. It said to message one of you about getting my deleted content restored to just my 'draft' page. Any help is appreciated. Sethzindler (talk) 15:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sethzindler: I'm a little confused as to what you are referring. The only talk page message you've received is the welcome message. You have a sandbox, which remains intact. You also have a draft article, which is also intact. Neither have been tagged for deletion. Do you have an alternate account where this happened? 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 17:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Terribly sorry. I must have been referencing something that doesn't exist now. I apologize. Feel free to delete this chain.

No worries, happy editing. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 18:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Keemokazi

I think it would appropriate to AfD this article but not CSD as there are sources but not very great ones (by looking at RS/P).

There is Dexerto but it is not really good.

There are many sources not listed in RS/P. Don't know what to do with them. Seems like Arab News and Legit are the only good secondary sources so far. (altough I have doubts about Legit) Rrjmrrr (talk) 18:54, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Lenny Maidana

That's not "Unambiguous advertising or promotion". It is my artist autobiography. Please restore it on my sandbox. Heylenny (talk) 23:04, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Heylenny: I'm going to decline this request. First of all, take a look at what you linked to, advertising, where point #4 directly addresses self-promotion. Your draft contained phrases such as "This passion evolved..."; "His academic fervor..."; " "diversified his experience..." "dedicated himself to assisting the community..." each of these blatantly violates WP:NPOV, they are strictly designed to promote the topic, namely yourself. How can your draft possibly be construed as encylopedic? Please refer to Wikipedia:Autobiography as well as the other policies linked to here, included the one you yourself linked to. If you feel I am in error, you may bring my actions up at WP:AN to get another administrator's opinion, but I must forewarn you I don't think that will work out well for you, because if you fundamentally can't tell the difference between self-promotion and encyclopedic writing, you will be blocked because competence is required (this is an essay, not policy, but it does a good job of explaining things). I do wish you luck, and if you need editing assistance other than promoting yourself or other topics in which you have a conflict of interest, I truly am ready to help. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@78.26 I understand you, but my intention was not really an autobiography or promote myself, but rather to write information about my artistic career. I didn't know I couldn't use the draft for this, so I ask you to restore it to my sandbox. And actually, I have only one song on Spotify, iTunes, etc. I have no relevance to having an article on Wiki, that's why it was in the draft. I'm not going to bring this up to other admins because it's an irrelevant topic. I'm currently at a standstill musically, as you read in the draft. I'm focused on my college. But yeah, thank you anyway :) Heylenny (talk) 03:03, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Neely Plumb

Hello, 78.26. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Neely Plumb, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 03:06, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Soulboy (Khalil Fong album)

Can you help my article for creation submit for review?Draft:Soulboy (Khalil Fong album) has been four months and no one has reviewed it for me. I see that you are a person related to this topic. Can you please help me? Thank you very much 78.26!! musiccat (talk) 08:28, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@王炯浜: it's hard for me to review this since I don't know the language or the sources. The topic seems notable based on the sales rewards. However, the article also seems promotional to me. Everything written praises the artist, his background, and his art. I would recommend re-writing much of it from a dispassionate standpoint, not from a fan's standpoint. I hope that helps. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 00:31, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 July newsletter

The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.

The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:

Generalissima (submissions) with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 featured article on DeLancey W. Gill, 11 good articles, 18 did you know nominations, and dozens of reviews;
Skyshifter (submissions) with 673 points, mostly from 2 featured articles on Worlds (Porter Robinson album) and I'm God, 5 good articles, and 2 did you know nominations;
Sammi Brie (submissions) with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on KNXV-TV, 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and
AryKun (submissions) with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Great cuckoo-dove, with a high number of bonus points from that article.

The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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Hey, 78! I've been meaning to ask about this, Closing as keep, as no one has challenged (5 days) the sources used to improve the article, which I really like but am wondering if I've seen before. In an AfD, I always wonder about early !votes by folks who don't circle back. Is this a close rationale that's used often? I definitely approve, but I'm trying to think if I've seen it before. Valereee (talk) 00:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Valereee:! Always good to hear from you. I don't know if you've seen it before, but I don't know that it's a "novel" close rationale. I could have closed it as "Consensus is keep, GNG met", but given the !vote count was 3 to 3 (counting nom statement), I thought it required a bit more explanation regarding my judgement of consensus. I suppose another close could have been "Consensus is keep by strength of arguments" as nobody refuted the sources you added to the article. So if you'd added the sources a within a couple days of the 17th, I would have relisted it. However, in my judgement 5 days is plenty of time for editors to analyze sources and poke holes in them. Good luck finding a rule or hard precedent for that, but I don't think there would be too many who would argue against it. Since an article meeting GNG is presumed to be notable in most cases (WP:CORP being one exception) and the claim to GNG was not refuted by further arguments, and the coverage you provided refuted the argument that there was no evidence of sufficient reliable secondary sourcing, I could only judge that consensus was "keep". Does that help at all, or have I made it worse? All the best, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 01:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, that totally helps! I don't close AfDs often, and I just thought it was quite the elegant rationale: new additions, no rebuttals. Thanks! Valereee (talk) 11:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AFD discussion for Lists of Wonderful Pretty Cure! episodes

I know you closed the discussion for List of Soaring Sky! Pretty Cure episodes afd discussion but we need someone to close List of Wonderful Pretty Cure! episodes afd discussion here is the link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Wonderful_Pretty_Cure!_episodes#List_of_Wonderful_Pretty_Cure!_episodes Anime9000 (talk) 00:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion needs to run a full week. Don’t worry, almost all AfD discussions are closed in a timely manner. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 00:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Do you think most users don't follow Wikipedia guidelines and policies because they never knew them in first place? Anime9000 (talk) 02:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When I first I joined wikipedia I didn't know there was guidelines and policies because it was never mention when you create an account Anime9000 (talk) 02:35, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if you're asking a question or making an observation. Of course most new Wikipedia users make mistakes because they don't know rules/guidelines/style manuals. I certainly made my share of mistakes as a new new user. A not-so-secret: I still mess up sometimes. The question really is: Is the user willing to listen to guidance, and are they willing (and in rare instances the question is are they able) to learn from their mistakes and improve. (You also have editors who edit contrary to the purposes of Wikipedia, promoting things, vandals, etc, but they don't count.) Anyway, that's why we try to point new editors to the WP:TEAHOUSE, where there are numerous editors who make it their point to help new editors (and occasionally even the experienced ones.) So if you see a new editor who is floundering, invite them!. All the best, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:03, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiCup 2024 August newsletter

The fourth round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 29 August. Each of the 8 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 472 points, and the following contestants scored more than 700 points:

Generalissima (submissions) with 1,150 points, mostly from 3 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 7 good articles, and 13 did you know nominations;
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Da'wah Center in Houston

78.26,

I am still here! How are you doing?

I am interested in writing an article about the Old National Bank Building in Houston, which has already for many years been re-adapted for use as the Islamic Da'wah Center of Houston. I am confident that I can build a solid Start-class or C-level article with a local architecture survey, the historic preservation report, and two local online news reports. This is an important site in Houston, and it would be a shame not to have a solid article on it.

My other interest relates to my original research. This is not relevant to the article, but it is relevant to my motivation for creating it. I have traced the history of this site to its original owners and original use until a fire destroyed the property in 1859. After that it was rebuilt as a theater before that was torn down and the bank was built in the early 20th-c.

Given the concerns about the article, I understand the need to compose this article in draft space, so I am requesting your help as an administrator to enable to write this in draft space, but with the understanding that an administrator would need to vet the draft before publishing to main space. I would also need to devise a care plan, in order to ensure that the article is not corrupted.

Best regards, Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 10:29, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Oldsanfelipe2: So good to hear from you! I'm not sure how I can help. It appears your asking for editorial assistance, and not administrator assistance. Everything in Wikipedia is owned by the editing community, Wikipedia:Ownership of content so I can't promise to keep your work "pure". However, if you're looking to develop this article in peace I'd recommend creating it in your user space and not in draft space. It's highly unlikely anyone would interrupt your work there. Once it's move to mainspace it's subject to the same abuse and improvement as all other articles. I'm terribly sorry if I'm missing your point, and I'll do what I can to help, I've always thoroughly enjoyed working with you. All the best, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry that I did not make my request clear. Currently, I cannot save the title as a draft in my sandbox. What just occurred to me is that I could retitle it in my sandbox, and the reviewer can correct the title when they approve the content for main space. So I think I just answered the first question.

Second, before I publish this in main space, it would be good if for me to find a few other editors to help me with vandalism patrol. So I will also reach out to some other Texas-based editors for this.

I have been writing history essays, so there is a small, non-zero chance that I will create RS for Texas history. Best regards, Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 16:45, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 November newsletter

The 2024 WikiCup has come to an end, with the final round being a very tight race. Our new champion is AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who scored 2,283 points mainly through 3 high-multiplier FAs and 3 GAs on military history topics. By a 1% margin, Airship beat out last year's champion, BeanieFan11 (submissions), who scored second with 2,264 points, mainly from an impressive 58 GAs about athletes. In third place, Generalissima (submissions) scored 1,528 points, primarily from two FAs on U.S. Librarians of Congress and 20 GAs about various historical topics. Our other finalists are: Sammi Brie (submissions) with 879 points, Hey man im josh (submissions) with 533 points, BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 432 points, Arconning (submissions) with 244 points, and AryKun (submissions) with 15 points. Congratulations to our finalists and all who participated!

The final round was very productive, and contestants had 7 FAs, 9 FLs, 94 GAs, 73 FAC reviews, and 79 GAN reviews and peer reviews. Altogether, Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors all through the contest. Well done everyone!

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Generalissima (submissions) wins the featured article prize for 3 FAs in round 4, and 7 FAs overall.
Hey man im josh (submissions) wins the featured list prize for 23 FLs overall.
MaranoFan (submissions) wins the featured topic prize for 9 articles in featured topics in round 1.
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BeanieFan11 (submissions) wins the good article prize for 58 GAs in round 5, and 70 GAs overall.
Fritzmann (submissions) wins the good topic prize for 6 articles in good topics in round 2.
Sammi Brie (submissions) wins the good article reviewer prize for 45 GA reviews in round 2, and 78 GA reviews overall.
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