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A Lady listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect A Lady. Since you had some involvement with the A Lady redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. feminist 17:08, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2017
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2017).
- Boing! said Zebedee • Ansh666 • Ad Orientem
- Tonywalton • AmiDaniel • Silence • BanyanTree • Magioladitis • Vanamonde93 • Mr.Z-man • Jdavidb • Jakec • Ram-Man • Yelyos • Kurt Shaped Box
- Following a successful proposal to create it, a new user right called "edit filter helper" is now assignable and revocable by administrators. The right allows non-administrators to view the details of private edit filters, but not to edit them.
- Following a discussion about mass-application of ECP and how the need for logging and other details of an evolving consensus may have been missed by some administrators, a rough guide to extended confirmed protection has been written. This information page describes how the extended-confirmed aspects of the protection policy are currently being applied by administrators.
- You can now search for IP ranges at Special:Contributions. Some log pages and Special:DeletedContributions are not yet supported. Wildcards (e.g. 192.168.0.*) are also not supported, but the popular contribsrange gadget will continue to work.
- Community consultation on the 2017 candidates for CheckUser and Oversight has concluded. The Arbitration Committee will appoint successful candidates by October 11.
- A request for comment is open regarding the structure, rules, and procedures of the December 2017 Arbitration Committee election, and how to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
Wikidata weekly summary #280
[edit]- Events/Press/Blogs
- Using Wikidata data, fixing wrong Wikipedia and Wikidata tags, by Mateusz Konieczny
- One Knowledge Graph to Rule Them All? Analyzing the Differences Between DBpedia, YAGO, Wikidata & co
- Modeling the Domain of Digital Preservation in Wikidata
- Wikidata as a linking hub for knowledge organization systems? Integrating an authority mapping into Wikidata and learning lessons for KOS mappings (Paper and presentation), by Joachim Neubert, NKOS Workshop 2017 at TPDL
- Knowledge exploration in public linked data ontologies
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- The ArticlePlaceholder has been enabled on Bengali Wikipedia (example)
- There is a new page with information around Wikidata:Wikidata in Wikimedia projects. You can help expand and improve it.
- New Wikidata Game to help you evaluate merge candidates based on projectmerge.
- A reading tip from Spinster (not mentioning Wikidata, but interesting general background knowledge): Indigenous peoples and responsible data: an introductory reading list from responsibledata.io
- Where's Wally (aka Waldo)? Right here on Wikidata, of course!
- Wikidata passed 8 average statements per item
- Statement 300.000.000 was created
- 20 million edits were done in September 2017
- Did you know?
- Development
- Added a css class to values that link to redirects so they can more easily be identified by editors who want that for maintenance work (phabricator:T70567) Thanks Matej!
- Continued work on persistent editing of forms as part of the work to support lexicographical data (phabricator:T173742, phabricator:T173744)
- Finishing touches on adding full URIs for external identifiers to our RDF export so we're good citizens of the semantic web (phabricator:T121274)
- Added a new
mw.wikibase.getAllStatements
Lua function in addition to the existinggetBestStatements
, that returns all statements regardless of their rank (phabricator:T176124) - Looking into an issue where unwanted email notifications are being sent (phabricator:T174794)
- Released version 2.1.1 of the base DataValues component
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Hi. Thankyou for your participation in the challenge series or/and contests. In November The Women in Red World Contest is being held to try to produce new articles for as many countries worldwide and occupations as possible. There will be over $4000 in prizes to win, including Amazon vouchers and paid subscriptions. If this would appeal to you and you think you'd be interested in contributing new articles on women during this month for your region or wherever please sign up in the participants section. The articles done may also count towards the ongoing challenge. If you're not interested in prize money yourself but are willing to participate and raise money to buy books about women for others to use, this is also fine. Help would also be appreciated in drawing up the lists of missing articles. If you think of any missing articles please add them to the sub lists by continent at Missing articles. Thankyou, and if taking part, good luck!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:15, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #281
[edit]- Events/Press/Blogs
- Upcoming: WikidataCon, Berlin, 28-29 October (sold out)
- We will have two exciting keynotes. The first keynote speaker is Fabian M. Suchanek, professor at Télécom Paris Tech University, working on the knowledge base YAGO. The second keynote speaker is Michael Kreil, datajournalist working on the project Data Sciences and Stories.
- Please volunteer for some tasks at the conference if you are attending.
- Upcoming: Wikidata workshop at XLDB, October 12th, Clermont-Ferrand, France
- Rebuild the map of famous artwork with Wikidata by Poulpy (in French)
- Research libraries and Wikimedia: A shared commitment to diversity, open knowledge, and community participation
- Upcoming: WikidataCon, Berlin, 28-29 October (sold out)
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- There is now a good start for documentation for QuickStatements. Feel free to help improve it!
- New Mix’n’match mode to show just the entries with multiple matches (example)
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: Lega Pallavolo Serie A player ID, KNAU ID, PfaF id, YouTube Playlist ID, Wheelchair ITF player ID, VBL player ID, MIL-STD-2525 Symbol Identification Code, stellar rotational velocity, readership, PROSPERO ID, PM20 folder ID, possessed by spirit, panorama view, official app, LFH player ID, UK National Fruit Collection ID, Riigikogu ID, Nominis saint ID, Theses.fr person ID, Nominis given name ID, LUMIERE director ID, LUMIERE film ID, LNV player ID, International Standard Text Code, hydrological order number, FCI rider ID, Daum movie ID, Cinémathèque québécoise work identifier, Japanese Database of National important cultural properties, Tunisian geographic code, New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission ID, DPLA subject ID, rating, Daum TV series ID, half maximal effective concentration, half maximal inhibitory concentration (IC50), Landtag of Liechtenstein ID, Bavarian geotope ID, Reddit user name, LinkedIn company ID, THW Kiel player ID, Footoféminin.fr player ID, FFVoile sailor ID, NPB player ID, Lega Pallavolo Serie A Femminile player ID, Gallica ID, National Museums of Japan e-museum ID, Spanish "Boletín Oficial del Estado" ID, Banglapedia (English version) ID, Banglapedia (Bengali version) ID, number of constituencies, All-Russian Mathematical Portal ID
- Query examples:
- Newest WikiProjects: Delhi Metro
- Newest database reports: television series by camera setup
- Development
- Breaking change: "wb_entity_per_page" table will not be updated and replicated on ToolLabs anymore
- A
mw.wikibase.getLabelByLang
Lua function will be added (phabricator:T173262) - The
mw.wikibase.sitelink
Lua function will accept a second parameter with the global identifier of a wiki (e.g. "enwiki") to link to (phabricator:T142903) - Had to temporarily turn off showing Wikidata's changes on Commons and Russian Wikipedia because of database issues. We're working on turning it back on.
- Continued work on persistently storing edits to Forms on Lexemes
- Finishing work on checking constraints on qualifiers and references with the constraint checks gadget
- Fixed a bug where notification emails for Wikidata changes were sent when they shouldn't have been (phabricator:T174794)
- Full URIs for external identifiers will soon be in the RDF export (phabricator:T121274)
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Please don't lint talk pages
[edit]You linted my talk page, so I got a pointless notification alert about it. Please turn your bots off for pages which create notifications for people. Thanks, Miserlou (talk) 20:08, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- Miserlou, the task was to change a poorly-formatted [[::User call, which meant that invariably some people got pinged in the process. There's no way to guarantee that these changes won't ping someone; it could happen on a user, article, or Wikipedia talk page.
On a related note, Rich, fixing this error (while appreciated) goes against your cosmetic editing restriction. It looks like you've stopped, but please do not restart it (and/or request a bot task for it if you intend on continuing). Primefac (talk) 21:29, 11 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)You're right, I didn't realize they had already cut off the tidy support for that. Primefac (talk) 00:00, 12 October 2017 (UTC)- Of course I have been very lazy in not asking for that be be lifted. However this does not go against it, because it changes the rendering of the page. It surprises me how many knowledgeable and wise people get that wrong.
- Also notice that very few active editors will have messages from 2008-2010 on their talk pages, so the pingage should be minimal.
- All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:50, 11 October 2017 (UTC).
- Sorry for the "ping". All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:50, 11 October 2017 (UTC).
- Ideally, this should have been handled by a bot to prevent the thousands of notifications you are sending out because of this. Can you stop doing this and make the appropriate bot request? Thanks. Nihlus 23:35, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- Since the comment from Miserlou above, I have avoided user talk pages that have comments dated this year or last. All other user talk pages that I am not skipping for other reasons have been cleaned.
- All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:58, 11 October 2017 (UTC).
- Per WP:AWBRULES #3, I am asking that you seek out consensus for these large scale edits before continuing. Nihlus 00:11, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- I'm willing to fast-track a bot request on this as soon as consensus is demonstrated, which will not be hard. Best to go the path of least annoyance. ~ Rob13Talk 00:14, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:53, 12 October 2017 (UTC).
- Thanks. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:53, 12 October 2017 (UTC).
- I'm not sure why you would do that when I have just told you that I have done all the AWB work on user talk pages that I intend to do. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:23, 12 October 2017 (UTC).
- Just today you have fixed lint errors on talk pages after being ask to stop and after you said that you wouldn't. A bot request has been submitted for this, so please stop. Nihlus 19:08, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- You are incorrect. I said that I would not be cleaning any more "User talk" pages with AWB, and that I had completed that phase before you threatened me with AWB Rule 3. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:14, 13 October 2017 (UTC).
- Also I think it rather disingenuous to say "a bot request has been submitted" when you actually mean that you have submitted a bot request. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:15, 13 October 2017 (UTC).
- That is a pointless distinction as you're still sending unnecessary notifications. And it doesn't matter who submitted the bot request, the fact is simple: this is a task that will require thousands of edits, will notify users on their talk page if not done by a bot, and requires approval before being completed. I will not discuss this with you further at this point. My next response will be at WP:ANI if this continues. Thanks. Nihlus 19:19, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- Refusal to discuss and more threats.. not cool. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:28, 13 October 2017 (UTC).
- Refusal to discuss and more threats.. not cool. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:28, 13 October 2017 (UTC).
- That is a pointless distinction as you're still sending unnecessary notifications. And it doesn't matter who submitted the bot request, the fact is simple: this is a task that will require thousands of edits, will notify users on their talk page if not done by a bot, and requires approval before being completed. I will not discuss this with you further at this point. My next response will be at WP:ANI if this continues. Thanks. Nihlus 19:19, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- You are incorrect. I said that I would not be cleaning any more "User talk" pages with AWB, and that I had completed that phase before you threatened me with AWB Rule 3. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:14, 13 October 2017 (UTC).
- Just today you have fixed lint errors on talk pages after being ask to stop and after you said that you wouldn't. A bot request has been submitted for this, so please stop. Nihlus 19:08, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- I'm willing to fast-track a bot request on this as soon as consensus is demonstrated, which will not be hard. Best to go the path of least annoyance. ~ Rob13Talk 00:14, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Per WP:AWBRULES #3, I am asking that you seek out consensus for these large scale edits before continuing. Nihlus 00:11, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Ideally, this should have been handled by a bot to prevent the thousands of notifications you are sending out because of this. Can you stop doing this and make the appropriate bot request? Thanks. Nihlus 23:35, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
Bug (album) (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Bug (album) (disambiguation). Since you had some involvement with the Bug (album) (disambiguation) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 05:04, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Editing restriction
[edit]Can you explain how these two edits are not a violation of your editing restriction (specifically the second edit)? The page in question, Mercedes Chacón Porras, has a link to it on La Galería de las Mujeres de Costa Rica that has been there since at least May. One of your tags is invalid and appears to be only cosmetic in nature since one was in August and the other today. There are many others like this that you have edited today that were linked when you first added the template. Nihlus 23:26, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- Don't listen to Nihlus, speaks complete garbage and wants everyone to be blocked.--Biografer (talk) 05:18, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- I refer you to WP:BATTLEGROUND. Secondly please research what a cosmetic edit is. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 07:31, 16 October 2017 (UTC).
- If you won't address my question I will seek a restriction on your meatbot like editing, especially when you are making errors on thousands of pages by adding orphan tags on pages that are not orphans. Nihlus 14:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- Nihlus, I think perhaps there's a bit of miscommunication happening here. At Wikipedia:Editing_restrictions, it notes that Rich's editing restriction includes that he "is indefinitely prohibited from making cosmetic changes to wikicode that have no effect on the rendered page (excepting those changes that are built-in to stock AWB or those that have demonstrable consensus or BAG approval)" Correct me if I'm wrong, but you appear to believe that placing the orphan tag on the article is incorrect? It is not. As is, the article has one inbound link to it. Per the description at Category:Orphaned articles, that category includes articles that "have very few or no incoming links" (emphasis mine). With only one inbound link, Mercedes Chacón Porras definitely qualifies under this definition. Further, AWB, which Rich is authorized to use and was using, tags articles with {{orphan}} when an article has less than 3 incoming links. Granted, there are other definitions that say it must have zero incoming links. But, this is a matter of definition. Accusing Rich of abusing that definition when it's built into AWB is wrong. Take the issue up with the AWB programmers please. Rich was complying with his editing restriction in doing this tagging. If AWB is improperly tagging articles that have more than 3 inbound links with the orphan tag, the issue is with AWB, not Rich. I pulled 5 such orphan taggings from August and September:
- Now On My Way to Meet You; tagged; no inbound links.
- International Surf Lifesaving Association; tagged; no inbound links.
- Titanic Love; tagged; no inbound links.
- Cynthia Nance; tagged; no inbound links.
- Graham Walne; tagged; no inbound links.
- It appears he's doing what's supposed to be done. Can you highlight errors that have been made, noting that the definition of "orphan" is at least ambiguous and can include articles with 3 or less inbound links? I.e., can you find places where he's placed an orphan tag on an article that had 4 or more inbound links? Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 15:14, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Hammersoft: The page I linked to (Mercedes Chacón Porras) has one link in article space, so why would the orphan tag be removed? Why would it be an orphan with one link in August and now not an orphan with one link? It doesn't make sense. My assertion was that either his August tagging or October detagging is in error, not both. Is he just removing the orphan tags now because they don't show after two months? That would definitely be a cosmetic edit because it doesn't change the rendered page. Nihlus 15:23, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- Have a look at this section above. As I noted, there's some disparity in definitions. Rich is actually correct in both cases. I think he can change his mind :) Now, if Rich edit warred to his preferred definition of "orphan", there would be a problem. But, he hasn't. I'm honestly not seeing a problem here. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:32, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- He's not correct. It just further shows that one of his tagging sprees was a massive error as he probably used his own regex to add the information (or is using the "Restrict orphan tag addition to linkless pages" setting). I'm seeking clarification from him which he is purposefully not providing. Nihlus 16:01, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- Nihlus, please. AWB places the tag on articles with 3 or less inbound links, as I demonstrated. Rich is permitted to use AWB in this manner. There's no problem here. This is a tempest in a teapot. There's no issue here. Let's move on, please. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- He's not correct. It just further shows that one of his tagging sprees was a massive error as he probably used his own regex to add the information (or is using the "Restrict orphan tag addition to linkless pages" setting). I'm seeking clarification from him which he is purposefully not providing. Nihlus 16:01, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Hammersoft: The page I linked to (Mercedes Chacón Porras) has one link in article space, so why would the orphan tag be removed? Why would it be an orphan with one link in August and now not an orphan with one link? It doesn't make sense. My assertion was that either his August tagging or October detagging is in error, not both. Is he just removing the orphan tags now because they don't show after two months? That would definitely be a cosmetic edit because it doesn't change the rendered page. Nihlus 15:23, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- Nihlus, I think perhaps there's a bit of miscommunication happening here. At Wikipedia:Editing_restrictions, it notes that Rich's editing restriction includes that he "is indefinitely prohibited from making cosmetic changes to wikicode that have no effect on the rendered page (excepting those changes that are built-in to stock AWB or those that have demonstrable consensus or BAG approval)" Correct me if I'm wrong, but you appear to believe that placing the orphan tag on the article is incorrect? It is not. As is, the article has one inbound link to it. Per the description at Category:Orphaned articles, that category includes articles that "have very few or no incoming links" (emphasis mine). With only one inbound link, Mercedes Chacón Porras definitely qualifies under this definition. Further, AWB, which Rich is authorized to use and was using, tags articles with {{orphan}} when an article has less than 3 incoming links. Granted, there are other definitions that say it must have zero incoming links. But, this is a matter of definition. Accusing Rich of abusing that definition when it's built into AWB is wrong. Take the issue up with the AWB programmers please. Rich was complying with his editing restriction in doing this tagging. If AWB is improperly tagging articles that have more than 3 inbound links with the orphan tag, the issue is with AWB, not Rich. I pulled 5 such orphan taggings from August and September:
- If you won't address my question I will seek a restriction on your meatbot like editing, especially when you are making errors on thousands of pages by adding orphan tags on pages that are not orphans. Nihlus 14:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
@Rich Farmbrough: Despite Hammersoft's misjudgment, I am still seeking clarification of the situation from you. Please respond in kind. Nihlus 16:12, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- Misjudgment? Well, whatever. We see things differently. That's called different perspective, not misjudgment. If you want to pursue this, be my guest. There's plenty of places where you can raise this (non) issue. But, it's already been addressed above, as I noted, and there is no problem, as I noted. If you want to call that a misjudgment, by all means please do so. Perhaps there are other voices who will agree with you. I've asked you for an answer; show an article where there were more than three inbound links which he tagged as orphaned. You've yet to supply an answer to that. Would you please answer that? Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 16:31, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- I'm done discussing this with you and would like to discuss this with Rich. Thanks. Nihlus 16:40, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- That's fine, but I asked you a reasonable question. I've checked quite a few of these taggings, noted five of them above, and can find no problems with the orphan taggings. You're saying there's a problem with the orphan taggings, but I can't find one with more than 3 inbound links. So far, I haven't found one with more than 1. Perhaps you are aware of one that has more than 3. If not, could you at least grant that you have no such evidence? We're trying to work together here, not at odds. I'm not going to tell you that the lack of you providing such evidence means you have none (non-answers don't count as answers, despite what anyone says), but if you are going to pursue this through dispute resolution, it would be a good idea to have evidence that he's been tagging things with more than 3 inbound links as orphaned. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:48, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- I think Hammersoft has explained the situation very well, and far more patiently than I. I will only add that we are looking at changing the default behaviour of AWB to zero incoming links (other than lists or disambiguation pages), as this seems to be the current consensus (see WP:CONSENSUSCANCHANGE), and specifically removing some of the tags relating to August 201c7.
- This is the second time that I have seen you refuse further discussion on my talk page. I understand that you are frustrated, but this is not helpful.
- All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:14, 16 October 2017 (UTC).
- I'm not refusing discussion; I'm narrowing it down because the response from you is what matters. That is all I was asking for. I do recommend that you point out what you are doing if you are correcting a mistake from a previous edit, especially when making thousands of them or just make a quick explanation of your edits when someone asks. Your initial refusal to provide this information is what led to this protected discussion. Nihlus 19:18, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- It's not the response from me that matters at all - the facts are what matter. Hammersoft provided you with them explicitly, I provided you with them implicitly - had you followed reply and researched what a cosmetic edit is you would have gone away happy and better informed. If you followed the path others have, you would doubtless have tried to use your new found knowledge against me at some point in the future, but let us hope that you would have taken a more positive path.
- RF 20:32 16 October 2017.
- It's your editing restriction, so it definitely does matter. I'm satisfied with the reasoning for the changes (although I still think they are pointless and a colossal waste of time). I think minimizing the amount of wikilawyering you do and increasing your respect for the community's wishes will better serve you in the future rather than relying on others to weakly argue your points for you. Thanks. Nihlus 19:43, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps the solution would be for User:Rich Farmbrough to try to steer away from edits like Special:Diff/805591377 for a bit, and for User:Nihlus for steer away from Rich for a bit. Then hopefully there will be a useful and positive outcome for everyone and the Encyclopedia. —Sladen (talk) 19:03, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- Eh, I see no reason to stay away while he makes controversial edits while ignoring the concerns of the community. I have no problem with his other actions, though. Although, the edit you linked does seem to be a blatant editing restriction violation. Nihlus 19:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- I know you're not wanting to discuss this with me, and I'm not trying to anger you. Nevertheless, it should be pointed out (as above) that the editing restriction "except(s) those changes that are built-in to stock AWB". I believe that {{Use dmy dates}} is used by AWB, though I am not expert on it. That being the case, the edit noted by Sladen is perfectly allowable under Rich's editing restrictions. Even if it's not part of standard AWB, it's still allowable under his editing restrictions, per the portion that says "or those that have demonstrable consensus". Given that {{Use dmy dates}} is in use on 670,000 articles, consensus seems to support its usage as Rich is doing. There seems to be a focus here on the portion of his editing restriction that says "is indefinitely prohibited from making cosmetic changes to wikicode that have no effect on the rendered page" without including the parenthetical allowed exceptions that follows that. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:22, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedians from Harvard has been nominated for discussion
[edit]Category:Wikipedians from Harvard, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. VegaDark (talk) 06:58, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
[edit]The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
For using AWB in a brilliant way! Magioladitis (talk) 19:58, 16 October 2017 (UTC) |
- Thank you! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC).
Wikidata weekly summary #282
[edit]Wikidata weekly summary #282
- Discussions
- New request for comments: Association Football Matches
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Upcoming: WikidataCon, Berlin, 28-29 October (sold out)
- If you organize a local event for the Wikidata birthday, feel free to add it on the events page and the birthday page
- A blog post describing Textes d'affiches, a tool using Wikidata to show movies and the works they are adapted from, developed during a hackathon at the national French library (by Shonagon, in French)
- Slides of the presentation "Wikidata Query Service: The State of the Engine" by Stas Malyshev
- Slides of the presentation "Wikidata and structured data initiatives at Wikimedia. Current trends and priorities" by Dario Taborelli
- Wikidata as a linking hub for knowledge organization systems? Integrating an authority mapping into Wikidata and learning lessons for KOS mappings by Joachim Neubert
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- If you are interested in Structured Data on Commons, and helping out as a Wikidata contributor, please consider joining the new Structured Commons community focus group!
- Participate to the Global Legislative Openness Week with MySociety and organize a Wikidata workshop in your country, from 20th to 30th November 2017
- Inventaire now has a News section where you can follow ongoing discussions and developments of the project
- wikidata-cli added bot support and new commands (wd search, wd aliases, wd add-alias, wd remove-alias, wd set-alias)
- wikidata-edit added bot edits support and new functions (alias.add, alias.remove, alias.set)
- HarvestTemplates has a new collaboration platform
- You can now use reCh to patrol items from your PagePile
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: Women's Sports Foundation ID, Oklahoma Sports Hall of Fame ID, North Carolina Sports Hall of Fame ID, New Mexico Sports Hall of Fame ID, National Trust Collections ID, Infopatrimônio ID, KBO pitcher ID, KBO hitter ID, Cairn author ID, Mississippi Sports Hall of Fame ID, Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame ID, Kansas Sports Hall of Fame ID, Hawai‘i Sports Hall of Fame ID, Georgia Sports Hall of Fame ID, DSMHOF athlete ID, ASHOF athlete ID, ExecutedToday ID, Monumentos de São Paulo ID, gravsted.dk ID, Dutch lost building register ID, Musikverket person ID, Megalithic Portal ID, PROSITE documentation ID, Search formatter URL, nominated by, BillionGraves cemetery ID, Cravo Albin artist ID, salinity, Lotsawa House Indian author ID, Lotsawa House Tibetan author ID, Florida Sports Hall of Fame athlete ID, T4T35 megalith ID, excavation director, QEdu ID, WBPLN author ID, Store norske leksikon ID, synodic period, PubsHistory pub ID, Organization ID on Radio Radicale, LOINC ID, digitised page from Lloyd's Register of Ships from 1930 to 1945, Lloyd's Register Ship ID, IDESCAT territorial code in Catalonia, Heritage Conservation District of Ontario ID, GenBank Assembly accession, Deutsche Synchronkartei actor-ID, Department of Education and Skills roll number, contains, Wikimedia template, Brueckenweb id, BHL bibliography ID, BFI-Filmography person ID, APA phoneme code, combination classification, young rider classification, best sprinter classification, best combative classification, mountains classification, Elite Prospects staff ID, Scottish Sports HoF athlete ID, GARD rare disease ID, kinship equivalent in SPARQL at Wikidata, SwimSwam ID, SpeedskatingResults.com speed skater ID, musée de Bretagne identifiant collections ID, camera setup, FOIH taxon ID, FOIH decree types ID, FOIH event types ID, FOIH value types ID, FOIH heritage types ID, FOIH periods ID, FOIH styles and cultures ID, FOIH materials ID
- Query examples:
- Newest WikiProjects: Women
- Newest database reports: Jean Rochefort Filmography
- Development
- Continued working on persistently storing edits on Lexeme pages (specifically Forms)
- Dealt with issues caused by too many edits being injected into recent changes on Commons and Russian Wikipedia
- Constraint checks will also be done on qualifiers and references (phabricator:T176863)
- Fixed a regression with the focus not automatically being set after a property was selected (phabricator:T177485)
- Full URIs for external identifiers will soon be in the RDF export (phabricator:T121274)
- The secondary
wb_entity_per_page
table got removed now (phabricator:T140890) - The secondary
wb_terms
table does have aterm_full_entity_id
column now (phabricator:T167114) - Released version 4.0.0 of the Wikibase DataModel JavaScript library as a pure NPM package with no MediaWiki dependency (phabricator:T177476)
- Released version 3.0.0 of the Wikibase Serialization JavaScript library as a pure NPM package with no MediaWiki dependency (phabricator:T177613)
- Released version 0.10.0 of the DataValues JavaScript library as a pure NPM package with no MediaWiki dependency (phabricator:T177232)
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Nomination for deletion of Template:SBAWB
[edit]Template:SBAWB has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 15:13, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
- Frietjes Thanks for leaving a note. I wish, though, you had left a note with out making the nomination, 95% of XfD that relate to things I have created can could be dealt with without a nomination, saving much overall effort. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:57, 18 October 2017 (UTC).
A barnstar for you!
[edit]The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
Thanks you for all your kind support on my talkpage and sharing some stuff that I didn't even knew about. Biografer (talk) 16:41, 17 October 2017 (UTC) |
Mind if we will exchange e-mails or Skypes? I feel, like you are my only friend here. :)--Biografer (talk) 17:37, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
- I don't use Skype very often as it seems to make my computers run slow. You are welcome to email me, using the link under "tools". I will try to watch out for any mail from you, but I don't always respond quickly! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:34, 17 October 2017 (UTC).
Deletion of {{Persondata}}
[edit]Hi SmackBot,
I'm the bot who is deleting {{Persondata}}. I noticed your edit on Rex Brinkworth in which you added {{Persondata}}. This template is deprecated and deleted. Please stop adding {{Persondata}}. In case you want to support the Persondata project you can help with the migration of the dataset to Wikidata at KasparBot's tool. See Wikipedia:Persondata or contact my operator T.seppelt in case you have any questions.
Thank you very much, -- KasparBot (talk) 01:00, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Seems kinda silly to be notifying someone about a ten-year-old edit, eh T.seppelt? Primefac (talk) 01:12, 19 October 2017 (UTC)Never mind, didn't notice the article was recreated earlier today. Apologies for the pointless ping. Primefac (talk) 01:13, 19 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)- Yes, but the change has a date field which could be checked easily enough. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:47, 19 October 2017 (UTC).
- Yes, but the change has a date field which could be checked easily enough. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:47, 19 October 2017 (UTC).
Nomination for deletion of Template:ISO 3166 numeric
[edit]Template:ISO 3166 numeric has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Jc86035 (talk) 10:37, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
accidental removal at ANI
[edit]Rich, did you notice that this edit reduced the page size by 11,140 bytes? ―Mandruss ☎ 21:21, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- Looks like editing through an edit conflict, been a problem for years. Needs fixing. DuncanHill (talk) 22:31, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing it out. Fixed All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:36, 20 October 2017 (UTC).
November editathons from Women in Red: Join us!
[edit] Welcome to Women in Red's November 2017 worldwide online editathons.
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(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language mailing list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list) |
-Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:19, 21 October 2017 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Filter 380
[edit]Not sure but I think letting in edits with refs skip the filter might be helpful? See Special:AbuseLog/19551358 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Flechette1866 . --QEDK (愛 • 海) 14:18, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
The Signpost: 23 October 2017
[edit]- News and notes: Money! WMF fundraising, Wikimedia strategy, WMF new office!
- Featured content: Don, Marcel, Emily, Jessica and other notables
- Humour: Guys named Ralph
- In the media: Facebook and poetry
- Special report: Working with GLAMs in the UK
- Traffic report: Death, disaster, and entertainment
Wikidata weekly summary #283
[edit]Wikidata weekly summary #282
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Past: Zugang Gestalten (slides by multichill)
- Past: Coding Da Vinci (slides by Jonas)
- Upcoming: Wikidata Birthday Tokyo, 27 October from 12:00 to 14:00 in Roppongi Hills
- Upcoming: WikiArabia 2017, Cairo, Egypt, 23-25 October
- Upcoming: WikidataCon, Berlin, 28-29 October (sold out)
- Upcoming: Wikidata Birthday Seoul, 29 October from 15:00 to 18:00
- Upcoming: Biographical Data in a Digital World 2017 6-7 November 2017 (in cooperation with Wikimedia Austria)
- COOL-WD: A Completeness Tool for Wikidata (tool website)
- Provenance Information in a Collaborative Knowledge Graph: an Evaluation of Wikidata External References
- Question Answering Benchmarks for Wikidata
- Using Word Embeddings for Search in Linked Data with Ontodia (tool website)
- Unlocking the human potential of Wikidata
- Textes d’Affiches, des films à lire sur Gallica
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- If you have a present or organize an event for the Wikidata's fifth birthday, feel free to add link and pictures here
- New version of the Alexa skill for Wikidata by metaphacts
- Nice short gif tutorial for writing a Wikidata query
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: Ontario Sports Hall of Fame athlete ID, Quora username, Women's Basketball Hall of Fame ID, Baseball Almanac ID, sports.ru player ID, Opera Vivra singer ID, Nova Scotia Sport Hall of Fame ID, NLBPA ID, MusicBrainz recording ID, caliber, Women's Collegiate Tennis Hall of Fame ID, Museus.br ID, Memória Globo, Enciclopédia Itaú Cultural ID, Canada's Sports Hall of Fame athlete ID, International Paralympic Committee athlete ID, Alberta Sports Hall of Fame and Museum athlete ID, BrainInfo ID (hierarchical), NeuroNames ID (plain mode), Anvisa drug ID, BC Sports Hall of Fame athlete ID, TheSports.org athlete ID, mapping relation type, Science Museum people ID, Mappy place ID, update method, Virginia Sports Hall of Fame ID, Missouri Sports Hall of Fame ID, DAMIT asteroid ID, Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame athlete ID, LFB player ID, Soccerdonna player ID, Sandrart.net artwork ID, youth wing
- Query examples:
- Average age of members of the 19th German Bundestag (source)
- Mountains in CH by height (topographic prominence) (source)
- Mountains in CH by height (elevation above sea level) (source)
- Monuments in Berlin for which Berlin cultural heritage ID and geolocation are known in Wikidata (source)
- Initial characters of names of free software (source)
- Initial characters of names of nonfree software (source)
- First World Heritage site per country (source)
- Newest database reports: list of kinship types
- Development
- Query Service throttling has been tweaked, to block a type of abusive client
- Adding diff support for Lexeme-related edits
- More work on checking constraints on qualifiers and references (phabricator:T168532)
- Now caching constraints results to make it ready for rollout for more users
- Continued work on more fine-grained usage tracking so we better know which parts of an item is used on an article on Wikipedia and the other sister projects
- Improved the way Wikidata changes are shown in watchlist and recent changes on Wikipedia and Co so they are more in-line with the other changes (phabricator:T48329, phabricator:T50684) Thanks Matej!
- Released the Wikibase DataModel component in version 7.2.0 (phabricator:T177486)
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Question (again)
[edit]Why would you make edits such as this when you are fully aware that it was something discussed and approved of in my bot's BRFA? Nihlus 00:41, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
- Why do you object?
- Why do you think I am "fully aware"?
- WHy did you censor my comments which were highly relevant?
- All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:49, 27 October 2017 (UTC).
WP:CLEAN
[edit]
Hello Rich Farmbrough: |
Future of outlines
[edit]Hi Rich,
Here's a summary/update on my script writing efforts, in case you would like to provide insight of any kind...
I'm in the process of building scripts for viewing outlines and for outline development.
So far, there is:
- User:The Transhumanist/OutlineViewAnnotationToggler.js – this one provides a menu item to turn annotations on/off, so you can view lists bare when you want to (without annotations). When done, it will work on (the embedded lists of) all pages, not just outlines. Currently it is limited to outlines only, for development and testing purposes. It supports hotkey activation/deactivation of annotations, but that feature currently lacks an accurate viewport location reset for retaining the location on screen that the user was looking at. The program also needs an indicator that tells the user it is still on. Otherwise, you might wonder why a bare list has annotations in edit mode, when you go in to add some. :) Though it is functional as is. Check it out. After installing it, look at Outline of cell biology, and press ⇧ Shift+Alt+a. And again.
- User:The Transhumanist/RedlinksRemover.js – strips out entries in outlines that are nothing but a redlink. It removes them right out of the tree structure. But only end nodes (i.e., not parent nodes, which we need to keep). It delinks redlinks that have non-redlink offspring, or that have or are embedded in an annotation. It does not yet recognize entries that lack a bullet (it treats those as embedded).
It is my objective to build a set of scripts that fully automate the process of creating outlines. This end goal is a long way off (AI-complete?). In the meantime, I hope to increase editor productivity as much as I can. Fifty percent automation would double an editor's productivity. I think I could reach 80% automation (a five-fold increase in productivity) within a couple years. Comments and suggestions are welcome.
There's more:
- User:The Transhumanist/StripSearchInWikicode.js – another script, which strips WP search results down to a bare list of links, and inserts wikilink formatting for ease of insertion of those links into lists. This is useful for gathering links for outlines. I'd like this script to sort its results. So, if you know how, or know someone who knows how, please let me know. A more immediate problem is that the resultant list is interlaced with extra CR/LFs, which I can't figure out how to get rid of.
Script and script feature requests (for outlines) are welcome. The Transhumanist 06:43, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Nomination of -ismist Recordings for deletion
[edit]A discussion is taking place as to whether the article -ismist Recordings is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/-ismist Recordings until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. –Miles Edgeworth Talk 15:59, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Precious three years!
[edit]Three years! |
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:20, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:05, 29 October 2017 (UTC).
Request for a revert
[edit]Hi Rich, can you be kind and undo this revision here? I can't revert more then 3 times, and I already did more then a couple revisions on the other article. Many thanks.--Biografer (talk) 16:38, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
- The doi only takes you to the resource page. The article itself is now at https://www.bioone.org/doi/pdf/10.3372/wi.36.36152. I have changed the links appropriately. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:58, 28 October 2017 (UTC).
- Thanks for the help, but this is what I wanted you to do. You see, what's the point of an archive if the new link can't be archived there? Now watch for EncycloPetey for me and revert any of his reverts. Thanks.--Biografer (talk) 18:45, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, in this case we now have a link to the document, a link to the doi and a link to an archive of the document (albeit from a different url).
- As for reversion, it's wise to engage in constructive debate rather than get into a revert war. I am pleased to see EncycloPetey back.
- All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:04, 29 October 2017 (UTC).
- Thanks for the help, but this is what I wanted you to do. You see, what's the point of an archive if the new link can't be archived there? Now watch for EncycloPetey for me and revert any of his reverts. Thanks.--Biografer (talk) 18:45, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #284
[edit]- Discussions
- New request for comments: Defining account creators
- Events/Press/Blogs
- Past: WikiArabia 2017, Cairo, Egypt, 23-25 October
- Past: WikidataCon, Berlin, 28-29 October. You can find the slides, notes and video recordings for most of the sessions
- Past: Wikidata's fifth birthday in Tokyo, Seoul, Munich
- Upcoming: Using Wikidata to create a multi-lingual multi-dialectal dictionary for Arabic dialects in the 14th ACS/IEEE International Conference on Computer Systems and Applications (AICCSA 2017), Yasmine Hammamet, Tunisia, 30 October-3 November.
- Upcoming : Wikidata and Wiki Loves Monuments editathon in Berlin, 24-26 November (in German). We're looking for trainers to explain the basic use of QuickStatements, Open Refine and Mix'n'Match. If you want to join, please contact MB-one
- Wikidata's birthday
- The fifth anniversary of Wikidata was celebrated, as every year, with a lot of presents, events and stories. You can find an overview on the birthday page.
- Birthday presents
- Search index now contains statements with {{Property|P31}} and {{P|P279}}. These can be used to influence search rankings and in the future also for matching.
- inventaire.io CC0 Wikidata-ready NDJSON and TTL dumps are now accessible at dumps.inventaire.io
- You can now move claims to new items with moveClaim.js. You can do so by typing "new".
- Prefix search on Wikidata (wbsearchentities API) now is using ElasticSearch as backend. This should improve search quality and also is more flexible and tunable.
- Wikidata becomes a proper citizen of the linked open data web
- graves.wiki – visualization of grave locations stored in Wikidata
- Wikidata Concepts Monitor (WDCM) - Wikidata semantic topics and usage statistics
- Happy Birthday to You, Dear Wikidata – recording and improvisation (Lucas Werkmeister)
- You can now create items from the command-line
- Crochet your own cute structured data bee to express your appreciation for structured data in the Wikimedia movement! And ask her/him/it to join the Wikimedia Cuteness Association (Q29169245).
- Wikidata Query Service UI: Geoshapes from Commons are now displayed in the Map view: Constituencies for the election to the German Bundestag 2017, with winning candidate and party
- Wikidata Query Service UI: The query service now shows you code examples for how to use your query in many programming languages (example query)
- Dungeon of Knowledge (source), a roguelike game where you explore a dungeon full of bits of Wikidata wisdom
- Simple WD an experiment of a simple frontend API on top of Wikidata using JSON-LD and schema.org.
- mapview widget/user script on Wikidata
- Images fragments for an item depicted on several artworks
- Histropedia Query Timeline tool - Demo of cool new features launched today for WikidataCon
- Q42395533 - the first item about a notable item!
- SQID now suggests statements that we are missing (example page, log in to see suggestions) -- more on Wikidata:WikiProject_Reasoning soon
- From labs VM to Wikibase Query Service in 2 minutes (using Docker images and docker-compose)
- Stories and reflections
- Wishes for the year to come, by Tpt
- Happy Birthday Wikidata! by the Gene Wiki Team
- Some random thoughts on the occasion of Wikidata's fifth birthday, by PKM
- Wishes and a personal story, by Spinster
- Happy Birthday, Wikidata by RolandUnger from Wikivoyage
- Happy Birthday, Wikidata by Katherine Maher
- Two years of Wikidata experience from ArthurPSmith
- Happy Birthday wishes from Wikimedia Deutschland
- Message from the development team
- Birthday presents
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: Biblioteca Nacional de México ID, MNCARS artist ID, BFI Film and TV ID, FPB rating, The Coptic Library ID, snap package, LesBiographies.com ID, Indian Foundation for Butterflies ID, AKL Online Artist ID, Google Doodle, New York City Parks Monument ID, Pro14 player ID, implementation of, GACS ID, Y-DNA Haplogroup, mtDNA haplogroup, mandates, Portuguese lighthouse ID, U.S. Ski and Snowboard Hall of Fame athlete ID, Sportbox.ru ID, VNDB ID, Videolectures ID, New Zealand Sports Hall of Fame ID, rfpl.org player ID, Panthéon des sports du Québec ID, Sport Australia Hall of Fame inductee ID, New Brunswick Sports Hall of Fame athlete ID, Manitoba Sports Hall of Fame athlete ID, Ontario Sports Hall of Fame athlete ID, Quora username, Women's Basketball Hall of Fame ID
- Query examples:
- Organic acids with images (source)
- People who are their father's father (source)
- 2017 German federal election results by district with geoshapes and color depending on the % of votes (source)
- Cities with most first performances of works (source)
- Count of women Vs. guys names “John” in the UK parliament (source)
- Percentage of popes who died in Rome (source)
- First sites registered at Unesco for each country (source)
- Development
- Continued working on persistent storage of edits on Lexeme pages
- Fixed an encoding problem in the SVG download of query results in the query service (phabricator:T178564)
- Fixed a problem with change dispatching changes to Wikipedia and co, that sometimes lead to single wikis falling way behind. (T179060)
- Added full URIs for external identifiers to the RDF export
- You can leave feedback on how improved fulltext search result page should look like
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!