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Please comment
[edit]Please comment on my proposal here. Debresser (talk) 18:32, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 2 May 2016
[edit]- In the media: Wikipedia Zero piracy in Bangladesh; bureaucracy; chilling effects; too few cooks; translation gaps
- Traffic report: Purple
- Featured content: The best ... from the past two weeks
Wikidata weekly summary #207
[edit]- Discussions
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Commons now has arbitrary access
- Work on ORES to make vandalism fighting easier is progressing well. "Damaging" and "goodfaith" models for Wikidata are now online.
- Wikimind
- New coverage maps have been created (see thumbnails)
- We have new images you can use to indicate your website/app/service is using data from Wikidata. (2 of the files have a problem still. We're working on a fix and will reupload.)
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: Loop ID, sound power, 3DMet ID, locality or place, Index Hepaticarum ID, clearance, ASF KID Cave Tag Number, power consumed, net tonnage, connects with, Czech neighbourhood ID code, longest span, aerodrome reference point, Mercalli intensity scale
- Category reports on without claims by site now link to PetScan's fast "has no statements"-option. A report for your preferred Wikipedia can be added.
- Query examples: software with most versions (source), oldest software (source), map of U1 stations in Berlin (source)
- Development
- Created the first MediaInfo entity through the API (screenshot, a bit more background)
- Substantially reduced server load for item and property displaying (phab:T132662)
- There are currently some issues with the order of latitude/longitude inn coordinates in the query service map visualization. It will be fixed tonight.
- Removed unsupported
sort
anddir
parameters from thewikibase.api.RepoApi
JavaScript module. This may break user JavaScript callinggetEntitiesByPage
(phab:T119856). - Worked on new flyers for institutions that want to cooperate with Wikidata and developers wanting to use our data (will be published on Commons once they're done)
- Moved forward with internationalization of the query service interface (not on translatewiki.net yet but being worked on)
- Worked on making it possible to extend SPARQL queries in simplified natural language version. It will also no longer add query prefixes when editing the query. Those are not live yet.
- Fixed a bug where admins got a blank page when trying to view deleted revisions (phabricator:T132645)
- Investigating issues with bad suggestions for properties when adding new statements (phabricator:T132839)
- Monthly Tasks
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
- Contribute to a Showcase item
- Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
Wikidata weekly summary #208
[edit]- Events/Blogs/Press
- Past: OpenTechSummit
- Past: CSVConf
- Past: Subscribe7 (slides)
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Our Main Page now has a section for popular items to show you what is trending on Wikidata based on several people editing an item over the last few days
- More constraint templates now generate SPARQL links
- Europeana Art History Challenge is still going on until the end of the month
- Freebase has been shut down
- Wikiversity now has access to the data on Wikidata as well
- The 24,000,000th item was created: Q24000000
- The ArticlePlaceholder will go live on the first Wikipedias on Wednesday (Esperanto, Haitian Creole, Neapolitan Wikipedia)
- Quora: Why isn't Wikimedia Commons using structured data via Wikidata?
- Newest trend on Twitter: annotating books with Wikidata statements ;-)
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: flower color, Megogo ID, via, Gazetteer of Planetary Nomenclature ID, Belgian Football ID, by-product of, by-product, cardinality of this set, Yandex.Music album ID, Sherdog ID, appears in the heritage monument list, HowLongToBeat identifier, ESR station code, P-number, mouthpiece, MathWorld identifier, PGA Tour ID, LPGA Tour ID, Australasian Pollen and Spore Atlas Code, wavelength, molar volume, vibration, goratings ID, International Sailing Federation ID, Wikidata time precision, fleet or registration number, FIVB beach volleyball player ID, Beach Volleyball Database ID, BVMC person ID
- Query examples: most frequent occupations without a label in a given language, map of places of birth of economists (source), map of all the paintings for which we know a location with the count per location (source), scientists who have worked together but whose Erdős numbers don’t reflect that (source), members of the French National Assembly born out of France (source), mathematical proofs (source), items that depict most things (source)
- Development
- Finished remaining blockers for deploying the ArticlePlaceholder on the first Wikipedias
- More work on initial Commons prototype
- Further work on textual representation of SPARQL queries to allow you to read/edit more of an existing query without having to touch SPARQL
- Show label instead of URI for globes in coordinate diffs - thanks Ricordisamoa! (phabricator:T110193)
- Improve recent changes entries formatting on Wikipedia and co (phabricator:T52893)
- No longer showing a restore link for inaccessible revdel'ed entity revisions - thanks Matěj! (phabricator:T55496)
- Investigated and worked around issues with the suggestions for new statements - needs more work (phabricator:T132839)
- Monthly Tasks
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
- Contribute to a Showcase item
- Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
Participate in the Ibero-American Culture Challenge!
[edit]Hi Rich Farmbrough!
Iberocoop has launched a translating contest to improve the content in other Wikipedia related to Ibero-American Culture.
We would love to have you on board :)
Please find the contest here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translating_Ibero_-_America/Participants_2016
Hugs!--Anna Torres (WMAR) (talk) 15:06, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
==Xo-Ho listed at Redirects for discussion==
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Xo-Ho. Since you had some involvement with the Xo-Ho redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. The Traditionalist (talk) 01:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
April metrics
[edit]Hi Rich, do you have time to clean up these two: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Metrics#April 2016 and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women writers/Articles created#April 2016? Thank you, --Rosiestep (talk) 01:58, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Done --Rosiestep (talk) 01:35, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:And list
[edit]Template:And list has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 14:48, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
==I should just like to say thank you==I know you and I have had plenty of run-ins over the years trying to make the encylopaedia better. I know you are in good faith and so am I, sometimes I am right sometimes you are right. I do appreciate your thousands of contributions to make the encylopaedia better. I am just not very good at saying so. No need to reply. Si Trew (talk) 02:57, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
Greetings, Happy Spring 2016
[edit]Warm Greetings! Long time, et. al...
I'm going to be rude and impose on you though for Province of Maryland in combo with inadequate template behaviors, IMHO. So need a back check with your two cents on the appearance, and a fix if you agree. (Also edit protected, but I don't get involved with Ambox templates, so haven't analyzed to see what (WIDTH!) is going goofy or why.)
- backstory
- ... Was up to my old tricks fixing up historical matters, and hung a Template:Expand section(edit talk links history) by way of {{sect-stub}} which appears to be going bad on formats. The exact add was:
- {{sect-stub|This section needs filled out with SPECIFIC colonial data, the five W's, not weasel wording!|date=May 2016|posted=2016-05-11}} (Yeah, I was being a bit tough. SECTION is a summation that would be great if written by a 14 y.o. in a class paper... Not adequate as History synopsis for an encyclopedia. I fix so many of these sorts of niggles.)
Answer here, I'll check back. Happy Hello again! // FrankB 18:54, 11 May 2016 (UTC) Manifests here in This Section <g> FrankB 18:57, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
- Perhaps you want {{sect-stub|small=no|This section needs filled out with SPECIFIC colonial data, the five W's, not weasel wording!|date=May 2016|posted=2016-05-11}}
This section needs expansion with: This section needs filled out with SPECIFIC colonial data, the five W's, not weasel wording!. You can help by adding to it. (May 2016) |
- All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:58, 11 May 2016 (UTC).
Question
[edit]You referred someone to the FT article in the Brumby AfD. I'm drawing a complete blank today and acronyms have never been my friend anyway - what is the FT article? Atsme📞📧 00:18, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- FT is the Financial Times. Since the article is deleted I can say no more about it at the moment with any certainty. It may well be www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b100be10-d0d2-11da-b160-0000779e2340.html (which is behind a paywall). All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:40, 12 May 2016 (UTC).
Re: Brumby
[edit]Moved to draft space at Draft:Janet Brumby. The only talk page content worth salvaging was this ref you added so I didn't bother resurrecting it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 17:01, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:20, 13 May 2016 (UTC).
Harford
[edit]The community of Harford is an article-worthy topic, and people going to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harford,_Pennsylvania are expecting a community, not a township. If you don't want Harford to be a redlink, go ahead and write an article about it, but don't create it as an inappropriate redirect. Nyttend (talk) 22:13, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- OK, so it's not an implausible redirect then. Why not use accurate edit summaries when deleting? All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:16, 15 May 2016 (UTC).
Edit filter 721
[edit]Last August you set up this edit filter to help deal with disruptive socking from KunoxTxa (talk · contribs), but the filter seems to still disabled. With KunoxTxa having returned to active editing recently, I'm wondering why and what would it take to get it enabled? Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:32, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- Re-enabled. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:57, 16 May 2016 (UTC).
Postal maps of London
[edit]Thank you for the gift of eight sheets of "Kelly's Post Office Directory Map of London". Redrose64 gave them to me at the Oxford meetup yesterday.
At the meetup we discussed the legality of scanning and uploading them. The consensus was that while they are based on Crown copyright maps more than 50 years old, the red lines showing the postal districts are still the copyright of Kelly's Directories Ltd. I could scan them and electronically remove the red, but that was thought to be of doubtful legality. Maproom (talk) 08:34, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- If you remove the copyright component I don't see that there is a difficulty. Of course for US copyright the sweat of the brow doctrine does not apply If you are concerned it would be worth asking on Commons. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 10:54, 16 May 2016 (UTC).
Wikidata weekly summary #209
[edit]- Discussions
- A few proposals for missing properties for Wikivoyage listings have been made
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Panama Papers and Wikidata made quite a splash online
- EveryPolitician: I use Wikidata for multilingual names
- Random item: Q14829494
- Lots of papers relevant to Wikidata or about Wikidata haven been published at ICWSM
- Wikidata through the Eyes of DBpedia
- Wikidata Map May 2016 (Belarus & Uganda)
- Geospatial search for Wikidata Query Service
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- We made a huge step for small Wikipedias and small languages online by rolling out the ArticlePlaceholder on the first 4 Wikipedias
- Geospatial search is now up and running on the query service. You can now search for items within a geographic area.
- The Wikidata Graph Builder has a refreshed interface with even more controls
- Sitelinks for the new Jumiekan Patwa Wikipidia (in Jamaican Patois) are being added
- Mapbox's Geocoder now uses Wikidata
- PetScan now has query examples
- d:Wikidata:Wikidata for authority control collects examples of usage of Wikidata for authority control
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: professional name (Japan), month number, highest income threshold, lowest income threshold, individual tax rate, ARKive ID, Joint Electronics Type Designation Automated System designation, totem, Online World of Wrestling ID, Internet Wrestling Database ID, corporate officer
- Query examples: longest rivers (source), map of places mentioned in travel stories with text in French accessible online (source), things located where the equator meets the prime meridian (source), people who acted with Brad Pitt (source), Italian mountains higher than 4000mt (source), who died by burning (source), age at date of death for musicians (source), universities of main programming language authors (source), hashtags (source), Pokemon! (source)
- Showcase items: Iron Man 2 (Q205028)
- Development
- Deployed the ArticlePlaceholder on the first 4 Wikipedias and worked on issues that were found
- Incident report of issues with the query service
- Worked on language fallback in the main header (screenshot, phabricator:T98014)
- More work on Commons prototype
- Worked on timeline as another visualization for the query service (phabricator:T135222)
- Fixed missing message for translation for Wikibase repo - thanks Matěj! (phabricator:T124766)
- We are now generating translatable automatic comments for undo and restore operations - thanks Matěj! (phabricator:T41134)
- Fixed issue with autocompletion on the query service (phabricator:T133317)
- Monthly Tasks
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
- Contribute to a Showcase item
- Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
Nomination of Frolic (cheese) for deletion
[edit]A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Frolic (cheese) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frolic (cheese) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 19:56, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- NB happy to close this myself if there are more sources I didn't spot. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 19:58, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 17 May 2016
[edit]- Op-ed: Swiss chapter in turmoil
- In the media: Wikimedia's Dario Taraborelli quoted on Google's Knowledge Graph in The Washington Post
- Featured content: Two weeks for the prize of one
- Traffic report: Oh behave, Beyhive / Underdogs
- Arbitration report: "Wikicology" ends in site ban; evidence and workshop phases concluded for "Gamaliel and others"
- Wikicup: That's it for WikiCup Round 2!
Amanda
[edit]Hi Rich. I don't understand this edit. What does "which see" mean in that context? 28bytes (talk) 03:02, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
- @28bytes: It's a literal English translation of the Latin "quod vide", normally abbreviated to q.v. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:02, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
API change will break your bot
[edit]Hello,
I noticed that Femto Bot has been using http:// to access the API, rather than https:// This is going to break soon, because of changes to the API. You can find more information in this e-mail message. I'm suggesting that people who need help updating their code check in at w:en:Wikipedia:Bot owners' noticeboard or on the mailing list. Good luck, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:17, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- I hate this compulsory movement to https: it seems a political agenda pushed by the WMF. However I thank you for the notice. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:40, 19 May 2016 (UTC).
- I think this is fixed. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:51, 19 May 2016 (UTC).
- I think this is fixed. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:51, 19 May 2016 (UTC).
Your advice on updating/editing...
[edit]Dear Sir
I decided to contact you having noticed your contribution to this article.
We wish to update this page with more details and information, specifically: project related activities. Our new 'membership' details (the current is inaccurate).
My concern is that whatever I write might appear as advertising rather than qualified information.
Would it be possible for me to draft a version and then ask the community to review in order to ensure suitability?
Kindest — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cardiff11 (talk • contribs) 22:46, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
- User:Cardiff11 that is a very good way to go. You can paste a proposed draft, or simply the proposed changes, on the talk page of the article.
- Feel free to ping me when you have done so.
- All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:34, 22 May 2016 (UTC).
Speedy deletion nomination of Septem
[edit]Hello Rich Farmbrough,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Septem for deletion, because it's not written in English. To request a translation, please visit the translation page. If you'd like to contribute to another Wikipedia, take a look at our full list of language projects.
If you feel that I made a mistake, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. ~~ ∫uℂρЭℝ0υĜe (ㅜαλ2𐤊) 22:50, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
- A2 is for articles not written in English. This article most certainly was written in English. It's an invalid speedy deletion request on those grounds. Regardless, I've turned the article into a redirect to Roman numerals. --Hammersoft (talk) 23:11, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
- Sept[e|u]m (or in Arabic Sebta) is the ancient name for Ceuta. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:16, 22 May 2016 (UTC).
- And... restored to the disambiguation page I created. And sources added to the destination article for both spellings.
Wikidata weekly summary #210
[edit]- Discussions
- Discussions about missing properties for Wikivoyage listings are progressing as enhancements are suggested
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: produced by, Wi-Fi, Google+, wheelchair accessibility, RAN ID, incidence, Benezit ID, place of marriage, age of onset, NSC number, gait
- Query examples: given names with most variations (source with links to graphs), papers about Wikidata (source), memes (source), cathedrals in Paris (source), highest mountains in the universe (source), Law & Order episodes (source), things/people with most children (source)
- Development
- Performance improvements in query service map display.
- Fixed a focus issue in the suggester (phabricator:T135008)
- Further groundwork on Commons support
- Fixed first issues that popped up after ArticlePlaceholder deployment based on feedback
- Investigated and prepared fix for issue where files on Commons couldn't be deleted (phabricator:T135485)
- Finished work on language fallback in main part of header (phabricator:T98014)
- Monthly Tasks
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
- Contribute to a Showcase item
- Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
Dark traffic
[edit]Hi there,
You recently started a thread or two about Wikipedia's referrer policy/dark traffic. I lost the thread somewhere and then cleared my watchlist. Wondering if you could point me to where things wound up? Thanks. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:30, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
- Good question!
- VP thread (archived)
- Meta thread arising therefrom
- All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:03, 23 May 2016 (UTC).
Reference errors on 23 May
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Spotlight on women entertainers!
[edit]You are invited... | |
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Need some urgent help with tracking category
[edit]I added a tracking category to {{Top icon}} to track use of two deprecated parameters. I used both parameters on my userpage. However, the tracking category doesn't show up. Why? How to fix this? Debresser (talk) 09:41, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
{{Rollback topicon}}
doesn't pass{{{number}}}
to{{Top icon}}
. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 10:36, 24 May 2016 (UTC).
- I guessed so. Is there any easy , centralized way to track parameters used in templates that use {{Top icon}}? Debresser (talk) 10:38, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
- Not really. You would need to change them all (the templates) in some way. And of course you are not guaranteed that these templates do not use those parameter names for something else. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:08, 24 May 2016 (UTC).
- Not really. You would need to change them all (the templates) in some way. And of course you are not guaranteed that these templates do not use those parameter names for something else. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:08, 24 May 2016 (UTC).
- I guessed so. Is there any easy , centralized way to track parameters used in templates that use {{Top icon}}? Debresser (talk) 10:38, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Draft article framework, for review.
[edit]Hi Rich
Thanks for your willingness to help. Really appreciated.
Before I embark on the details, I wanted to pass what I consider to be basic (and non-formatted, sorry) framework.
There are questions directed specifically towards contributors, some notes on minor improvements.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cardiff11#Draft_framework_27.05.2016
Would you advise that we use this framework and the basic rationale underpinning it, to begin re-writing?
Kindest — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cardiff11 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 28 May 2016
[edit]- News and notes: Upcoming Wikimedia conferences in the US and India; May Metrics and Activities Meeting
- Special report: Compensation paid to Sue Gardner increased by almost 50 percent after she stepped down as executive director
- Featured content: Eight articles, three lists and five pictures
- Op-ed: Journey of a Wikipedian
- Arbitration report: Gamaliel resigns from the arbitration committee
- Recent research: English as Wikipedia's Lingua Franca; deletion rationales; schizophrenia controversies
- Traffic report: Splitting (musical) airs / Slow Ride
Wikidata weekly summary #211
[edit]- Discussions
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Past: WikiCite (including links to documentation etherpads)
- Past: Gulaschprogrammiernacht (video)
- Ben Whishaw, Broadway, La Rada et WWikidata
- Meet TED’s Wikipedians-in-Residence
- Orte, die mit 'ow' oder 'itz' enden
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: Library of the National Congress of Argentina ID, Minitel, SureChEMBL ID, type of unit for this property, property usage tracking category, PubChem BioAssay ID (AID), time in space, tourist office, miRBase mature miRNA ID, miRBase pre-miRNA ID, record or record progression, has role, Molenecho's ID, Hollandsche Molen ID, Band number, OpenCritic ID, Nederlandse Molendatabase ID, Catalogus Professorum Academiae Rheno-Traiectinae ID, Leidse Hoogleraren ID, cites, X-SAMPA Code, KLOV ID, WWE.com superstar ID, EU Surface Water Body Code, VAT-rate, disease burden, electrical plug type, emergency phone number, payment types accepted, iTunes artist ID
- Query examples: Fictional universes with most fictional planets (source), main subject of West Wing episodes (source), places with free wifi (source), citation network of paper about Zika (source), taxons and what they are named after (source), billionaires (source), animals that were executed (source), chemical elements and their isotopes by number of neutrons (min/max) (source), popes with children (source), birthplaces of astronauts (source)
- Development
- Worked on fix for issue with language fallback in main part of header (phabricator:T135714)
- More work on support for Commons - main focus right now is on making it possible to actually store a new entity without jumping through hoops
- Fixing a bug in Internet Explorer with prevents editing (phabricator:T136543)
- Worked on more blockers for next deployment of the ArticlePlaceholder (phabricator:T135624)
- Monthly Tasks
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
- Contribute to a Showcase item
- Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
Wiki Loves Pride 2016
[edit]As a past contributor, you are invited to participate in the third annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign, which runs through the month of June. The purpose of the campaign is to create and improve content related to LGBT culture and history. How can you help?
- Create or improve LGBT-related Wikipedia pages and showcase the results of your work here
- Document local LGBT culture and history by taking pictures at pride events and uploading your images to Wikimedia Commons
- Contribute to an LGBT-related task force at another Wikimedia project (Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons, Wikivoyage, etc.)
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Thanks, and happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:53, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello!
[edit]--Rich_Farmbrough On the backlog page and elsewhere, there is "Accuracy disputes" and "Neutrality disputed". Why isn't it "Accuracy disputed"? Is this an error that needs to be changed?
Thanks! Icememen (talk) 08:33, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
- Neutrality and accuracy are different. For example "Fred Bloggs was arrested for the murder." might be accurate, but it is not neutral if he was later released, and John Doe was convicted of the murder.
- Neutrality requires us to consider wording, order, and undue weight, as well as accuracy.
- The following examples are intended to be in increasing order of goodness:
- "Eva is the greatest[peacock prose] contralto of all time."
- "Eva is considered to be[by whom?] the greatest contralto of all time."
- "Eva is considered by Rich Farmbrough[undue weight? – discuss] to be the greatest contralto of all time."
- "Eva has a strong fanbasereliable source 1 and Mr. Well Known Critic described her as 'one of the top contraltos of her day'.reliable source 2 "
But even the last may not be neutral: if there are Well Known Critics that consider Eva a caterwauling banshee, that should be included too.
- All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 10:14, 31 May 2016 (UTC).