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Administrators' newsletter – June 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).

Administrator changes

readded Graham Beards
removed

Bureaucrat changes

removed

Oversight changes

removed Dreamy Jazz

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

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832LT and 106medregt

106medregt was blocked at 04:58 17 May 2024. Therefore, all drafts made by 832LT socks afterward can be deleted under G5. Air on White (talk) 19:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

@Air on White: I'm going based off the date of block of the named master. Whether they're actually the master or not can be discussed, but, that account you're referencing wasn't reported until today at the SPI. Ponyo also did not say whether it was definitively confirmed, so it's better, from my POV, to err on the side of caution and let the drafts expire and be G13 deleted if necessary unless the account has been definitively linked. If that is the original account name, then it makes sense to propose moving the case there. Until some further confirmation, I'm going to operate under the assumption that anything prior to May 27 is not G5 eligible. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:33, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/May 2024

Greetings, Josh,

It seems the barn stars for the May backlog drive have not been awarded yet. Feel free to ping me if you need any assistance. Regards! Maliner (talk) 15:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

We're aware that they've not yet been given out @Maliner. Please be patient. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
I am not getting impatient. I just wanted to help out if needed. Maliner (talk) 15:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Justin Trudeau category

Hello. Why did you edit my addition of the Canadian monarchists category on Justin Trudeau? Other Canadian politicians', like Pierre Poilievre and past Canadian Prime Minister have it. CGP05 (talk) 01:09, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

@CGP05: As I said in my edit summary, it's not an appropriate category. You're welcome to start a discussion on the talk page proposing the addition of the category. Hey man im josh (talk) 01:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

May 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

The Order of the Superior Scribe of Wikipedia   
This award is given in recognition to Hey man im josh for accumulating at least 500 points during the May 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 14,452 reviews completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Also this:

May 2024 NPP backlog drive – Streak award

Unnecessarily complicated Gears Award

This award is given in recognition to Hey man im josh for accumulating at least 150 points during each week of the May 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 14,452 reviews completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

apology

I had sent an email (didnt do via my discord it is a bit of a mess atm) but in the time I sent - the problem was solved - just a heads up if the email seemed a bit strange/strained - all is fixed. JarrahTree 16:09, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

You reconfigured IABot to archive URLs to everything

I noticed that IABot has suddenly surged in activity since yesterday. When checking the configuration, and the change log respectively, I see you made alterations to the bot's wiki-wide behavior. Is there a recent policy change that I missed where adding archive links to both dead and live sources is desired? Otherwise, can you please explain the configuration change? —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Oh my god, this deserves a big ol' trout @Cyberpower678. I had no idea that I had the ability to change wiki-wide configurations. Being that I was logged in, I thought this was a preference that was set specifically for requests I made via the interface. I've reversed the configuration change and I'm so sorry for any inconvenience, headache, or extra load this may have caused! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:07, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
No worries. Yes, all sysops have the power to reconfigure the bot's behavior. Being the enforces of consensus, how the bot should run on a wiki can have a changing consensus. :-) Thank you for reversing. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:09, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
BTW, I'm fresh out of trouts. I ate them all yesterday. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
@Cyberpower678: I think my confusion came into play from heavily utilizing IABot BEFORE I became an admin, and then not noticing that I was suddenly able to do something I hadn't even looked to try to do before. Woops! Lessons learned!!! Thanks for understanding :) Hey man im josh (talk) 17:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Hey, we all have our admin slip ups. I once blocked editing to all of Wikipedia because I neglected to properly clean up a spam blacklist regex entry, leaving behind a single period, which matched to everything naturally. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
@Cyberpower678: Wow! That sounds Wikipedia:Village stocks worthy based on its impact lol. It happens :) Hey man im josh (talk) 17:23, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Oh oops, my mistake, I think somebody else did that on the spam blacklist. I accidentally borked the title blacklist which denied the creation of accounts and pages if I'm not mistaken. It's been a while. Here's my blunder edit. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Ohhhhh yeah, that's not as bad :) Hey man im josh (talk) 17:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Hats

Hey Josh, could you remove my page mover and new page reviewer rights? Thanks! – Hilst [talk] 01:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@Hilst: Done. Feel free to reach out on my talk page any time to request these back and I'll be happy to grant them back without question. I'm sad to see you leave the NPP but I'm thankful for everything review and tag you've done! Hey man im josh (talk) 01:31, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Alright, thank you! I'll definitely think about returning to NPP in the future. – Hilst [talk] 01:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

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Promotion of List of Jacksonville Jaguars first-round draft picks

Congratulations, Hey man im josh! The list you nominated, List of Jacksonville Jaguars first-round draft picks, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm glad!

I'm glad I have nothing against using the word 'congratulations'. CONGRATULATIONS, JOSH!! :) Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you John! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

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Quarry queries

Hello, Josh,

Do you know much about the Quarry program? I basically run queries I inherited from other editors years ago and one is giving me an error message. It's worked for years and for some reason now has a problem. Would you be willing to troubleshoot the code? Thanks and I hope you are doing well this summer. Liz Read! Talk! 02:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

@Liz: I'm in the same boat as you, I'm a forker! I know a bit but not enough to help with trouble shooting, I'm sorry. Hey man im josh (talk) 02:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Xbox page?

Didn't know we checked Xbox Store page for issues like this. Then we should change all the previous titles except for the first game. ภץאคгöร 17:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

@Nyxaros: I had a number of links I could have used, but, at least to me, it looks like everywhere you can order it from uses the lowercase version. That's not even counting the number of articles I found that use the lowercase version as well (with some uppercased versions mixed in as well). Based on what I found, and per MOS:CAPS, there was enough of a valid reason to reject the CSD/move request. You're welcome, and encouraged, to bring this up at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:58, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
To be clear, I admit I may be wrong on the proper capitalization, but I thought it enough to merit a move discussion instead of a speedy deletion. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
See this and this. ภץאคгöร 12:14, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
@Nyxaros: So it seems there was support to down case to "is". Probably worth a RM by someone interested in doing so. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
There was some support, yes, but as mentioned, MOS:5 exists (Every verb, including forms of to be (Be, Am, Is, Are, Being, Was, Were, Been)). ภץאคгöร 16:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
@Nyxaros: MOS:CAPS still applies. Your own links show that there's been a shift to usage of lowercase "is". Additionally, the quoted section is specifically when the title of the work includes the word capitalized, it does not automatically mean that we capitalize it. Furthermore, the stylization used by the games themselves is all caps, which is not a stylistic convention that we follow. It appears, from sources online, that it's not officially capitalized but it's not something that's been addressed on-wiki yet. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Those are not "my links". I'm just showing previous discussions that still led to "Is" usage. Don't get me wrong here, I'd rather prefer "is" (for the other games too, except for the first game) since it is included in the official title. ภץאคгöร 17:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
@Nyxaros: Fyi, I've started a move discussion. Hopefully that resolves the issue one way or another. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks but it looks like we're back where we started. The page will have "Is" despite your comments. ภץאคгöร 09:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

World Figure Skating Championships cumulative medal count

I nominated this article for Featured List status back in early May and it doesn't look like much has been done while plenty of other lists submitted later have undergone thorough reviews. I am new to this process, but is this unusual? Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:34, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@Bgsu98: We do typically try to support newcomers at WP:FLC, but the best way I've found to get my items reviews is to review the nominations of other users. It's tough when you're new to the area though. If you're comfortable, you could still provide prose reviews and review nominations to the best of your abilities. I think people just aren't necessarily interested in reviewing the topic unfortunately, and I think that sucks. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
I guess I am just not sure where to even begin. Several of us spent a lot of time making sure those tables are properly formatted, everything is properly sourced. Figure skating is one of the most popular Olympic sports, and I get that this isn't the Olympic article, but the World Championships are the next in line in the hierarchy of importance. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
@Bgsu98: Are you comfortable reviewing prose? Give a read through a list and see what kind of feedback you can give, I like to think it all helps. I don't think there's anything wrong with your choice of subject, I just think it's not something that reviewers have felt like diving into yet. As one of the older lists though, it'll soon be listed as a nomination needing further attention, which should hopefully attract more reviewers. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:55, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Re GTC

Hey Josh, thought I'd just post here instead. As I wanted to do my due diligence as well. So I did some digging of my own and found an example of the split approach, although this is FT. Overview of Meghan Trainor is the artist topic. Her discography article was used as the main article for two FTs. Meghan Traino albums and Meghan Trainor's Billboard Hot 100 entries. From what I've checked, both FTs aren't listed as sub topics to the Discography article in the Overview FT, but are just standalone FTs. Hopefully that is something that can be used as a reference. I understand you had already supported the nom (which is much appreciated), but thought I'd have the i's dotted and t's crossed just to be sure :) Pseud 14 (talk) 16:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Pseud 14, thanks for the follow-up! It's a relevant and good grouping for a topic, I have no doubt about that. I do think the Meghan Trainer discography one in this case can't be a subtopic because of all the extra stuff that's not promoted under one of your topics. With that said, I think, if you were interested, it'd make sense to ask at Wikipedia talk:Featured topics whether the residencies and live concerts GTs could be combined under one sub topic, or even possibly two sub topics? At least to know, right? Hey man im josh (talk) 16:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Told you that you could put the nomination up with your name instead of mine. In any case, feel free to support! igordebraga ≠ 11:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks @Igordebraga, but I'd feel weird doing so since I hadn't contributed in the slightest way. At least you're involved in the WikiProject, so it makes sense for you to do so. I wouldn't even know what to write for the nom lol. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:00, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
I'm not that involved, usually just seeking topics to promote or restore (albeit in Madonna's case, once the guy who nominated Vogue vanished during the GA review took upon myself to finish the process). Still, waiting for your input on the nomination. igordebraga ≠ 03:26, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Appreciation

Thanks for your kind words and support on my nomination on the Editor for the Week! It is much appreciated. Best wishes. Red Director (talk) 14:56, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

It's well overdue and I can't say enough about how much I appreciate all the work you do @Red Director! Hey man im josh (talk) 14:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Vijay Hazare errors

FYI there are errors that cropped up due to your Rcat additions. The "avoided double redirect" template needs the parameter of the other redirect.   — TARDIS builder✉     ★       11:09, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

@TARDIS Builder: I did not add any rcats to the pages. Never the less, I've fixed the error. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
You did indeed, on May 24th – one, two, three, four – I was just mentioning / reminding that {{R avoided double redirect}} needs a parameter to not spit out an error. Thanks!   — TARDIS builder✉     ★       03:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Voyager 2 DYK

Hey, the QPQ was awaited for it. I thought I'll do it this week. — The Herald (Benison) (talk) 15:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Grrrrr, my bad. Thanks for pointing this out to me @The Herald, I'll undo that. As a noobie at DYK... I've got a lot to learn! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:43, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Lol, no probs. Happy editing :) — The Herald (Benison) (talk) 15:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

CFD/Working

Hi Josh, thanks for sharing the load at WP:CFDW!

Please note that when we check categories before de-listing, we not only check that they are empty, but also check "what links here", and update links where necessary. WP:CFDAI has some detailed guidance about this.

I noticed that in this edit you overlooked several links from category pages. ([1]) You may notice that I also maintain user drafts – this is merely optional, but updating category pages is important. – Fayenatic London 08:48, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Fayenatic london, thank you for the feedback, I'll definitely working at doing a better job based on this feedback. I hadn't consider user drafts, so that's definitely something I'll keep in mind. As for the redirects you created, do the bots that deal with fixing double redirects not work in category space? I would have thought those particular edits would be addressed by one of them instead of having to do so manually. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Updating user drafts is optional, but some users thank me when I do bother with drafts that are still WIP, and in other cases it turns up WP:COPIES that should be blanked or deleted.
As for these category redirects, the bot run left them redlinked, so it's unlikely that another bot would be able to update them – it's more likely that they would have been deleted. As they are redirects from alt spellings, which another editor had created intentionally, I judged that they were worth keeping. So in each case I updated the target to the new lowercase name, and then moved the redirect to the corresponding alt-spelling lowercase name. There was no need to leave another redirect at the old uppercase name, as that had not been done in the case of the mainstream spelling. Hope that makes sense! – Fayenatic London 14:30, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
That's a good point. It absolutely makes sense! Thanks for the help and guidance :) Hey man im josh (talk) 12:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Template:2019 NHL Entry Draft

Hello, Hey man im josh. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Template:2019 NHL Entry Draft".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 05:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

`List of New England Revolution broadcasters` deletion

Hi Hey man im josh, I saw a recent AfD requests where you deleted the article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_New_England_Revolution_broadcasters). Would it be possible to provide me with the content of the deleted article (perhaps by moving it to my userspace?). I'm not planning on restoring that article, but I would like to have access to it as I improve a lot of New England Revolution pages and the sources/content might be useful. Thanks! Brindille1 (talk) 12:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@Brindille1: I've created User:Brindille1/List of New England Revolution broadcasters for you. If you ever do decide you want to work on that list and move it back to main space, the notability concerns would obviously need to be addressed first, but the page would also need to be histmerged with List of New England Revolution broadcasters since I copied the deleted content and we would need to preserve attribution. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Split

Hey Josh, thanks for all the help in the past and I hope you good today. I honestly feel like there are some remixes as well cover songs that deserve a standalone article. "Creepin'" has a standalone article and it is a cover of "I Don't Wanna Know", other than this I have never seen a standalone cover or remix article. I believe "At Your Best (You Are Love)" deserves a standalone article as the article is composed of almost its achievements and they are kept hidden under the original song. "Save Your Tears (Remix)" and "Die for You (Ariana Grande Remix)" both did well on the charts and even peaked at number one on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, certified in multiple countries and performed well commercially. My question is, is there a way these articles (especially "At Your Best (You Are Love)") can ever get standalone articles? I'm willing to go through the trouble of splitting them if need may be. I'll be on the lookout for your response. dxneo (talk) 12:00, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher): do they pass WP:GNG? Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 14:29, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Vestrian24Bio, without a doubt. Please check them out. I mean they are certified higher than Gold in multiple countries, won awards and I did mention that they peaked at number one on the Hot 100 chart; ultimately pass WP:NSONG. Surprisingly, "Die for You (Ariana Grande Remix)" performed better than "Creepin" according to the IFPI. dxneo (talk) 15:25, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Notability aside, a standalone article is appropriate only when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album. – If there could be enough content for a standalone article, I'd say go for it. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 15:38, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you

The Original Barnstar
Hey man thank you. I just looked at some lists (NFL annual rushing TDs and INTs leaders) and saw that you did a lot of work on them. I made them back in 2014 and I really appreciate all the work you did on them to help get them from the simple lists to featured list status which makes them the first pieces of featured content I've created. I think that's pretty cool. Thank you again and best wishes, Soulbust (talk) 04:10, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Thank you so much @Soulbust! It's always wonderful to have your work recognized and I very much appreciate the work that was put in by you before I picked up where I did. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:48, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Reviewing Articles?

Hi there @Hey man im josh,

It's been a while since we interacted. I hope all is well with you. I was wondering if you could review some articles for me, if you don't mind. I think I made a request on your talk page before, and I have a number of articles in the backlog that need reviewing (I translated/brought them over from the Russian Wikipedia, as a heads up). If you are able to review some articles, here are a couple that I created: Smoky Mo, Matrang, Alex Davia, Thrill Pill, and Beverly Hills (Zivert song). If you are able to review more, let me know and I'll give you more articles. If you cannot review any, that's perfectly fine! I was just wondering if you could do them. Thank you in advance. Losipov (talk) 03:41, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Losipov, I'm sorry, but I typically don't review articles upon request. I decline to do so because I have a lot on my plate already and I don't want to overcommit myself and end up with a lot of regular requests like this. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:28, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Oh, I will say though that I very much appreciate you putting in the work to create all of these! I hope someone from the NPP team to be by at their earliest convenience. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:29, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
@Hey man im josh That's fine, I understand. Thank you, though, for the kind words! Hopefully these articles get reviewed soon because I have a good amount of them in NPP right now. Thanks again! Losipov (talk) 16:20, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Vegas Golden Knights draft picks/archive1

@Hey man im josh:, what do I even do here? I haven’t the slightest idea how to program a table the way MPGuy wants, and it seems to me like an unreasonably high standard for promotion. The Kip (contribs) 16:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Not Josh, but I noticed the discussion and just went ahead and tried to implement it into the article. Feel free to revert if you don't like it, just wanted to help out :) ULPS (talk • contribs) 17:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks - I’m not sure if that fully addresses his concern (that not all the rows have a unique header), but I hope it does. I don’t have any idea how to style the header boxes to look normal in the way he’s saying I should. The Kip (contribs) 17:26, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
@The Kip: I hope the changes @ULPS made are satisfactory, because I don't personally see a reason to move the row scopes if you do not want to. In all fairness, I really should have proposed merging the cells for the draft year the way that ULPS did. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:29, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
I think it technically does cause of the !scope="row" I added but oh well 🤷‍♂️. Hopefully he finds it satisfactory. ULPS (talk • contribs) 17:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Ahh.... My understanding is you should not have added that second set of "!scope=row". I believe you shouldn't be trying to specify the scope of the row twice, but I'll follow up with PresN about it. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility/Data_tables_tutorial#Complex_tables does have an example of using multiple row scopes, but I really don't think this is a situation where it's appropriate, but I'm still trying to expand my knowledge on accessibility and table formatting. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Damn, should I remove it then? This table stuff gets too complicated sometimes ULPS (talk • contribs) 17:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
It IS possibly to add the players as a second row scope from playing around with it, but again, I'm not sure if it's actually proper. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
At this point, if it’s not possible (at least without extremely technical programming), what do I even do? The Kip (contribs) 18:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
@The Kip: Hold up for a bit while I verify with PresN whether it's required. If so... There's a lot of lists I need to start making changes at haha. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:43, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Promotion of Detroit Lions draft history

Congratulations, Hey man im josh! The list you nominated, Detroit Lions draft history, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, PresN (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Lists of Green Bay Packers players/archive1

Thoughts on this? I don't think I have ever had an FLC go 3 weeks without a substantial review before. You think people are avoiding it because its an index list? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:16, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Gonzo fan2007: In short, yeah, I do think people are avoiding it because it's an index list. I think some people are uncomfortable with the idea. I myself haven't reviewed it because I'm just not sure how to and what the expectations are out of index lists like this. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:19, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
I'm withdrawing it for now. Deal with it some other day! *shrug* Thanks for the input :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:43, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
@Gonzo fan2007: Unless you have some lists already ready for nomination, it might be beneficial to let it reach the back of the queue, but that's up to you. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:44, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
I have like 7 in the queue. It's going to take me at least a year to get through all of them. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
@Gonzo fan2007: Your queue is longer than mine! I had mine up to about 8 or 9 at one point... I vowed to get it to 10. I've dwindled down to 5 with one about to be nommed. I still want to reach that goal and you and your dirty Packers list are motivating me to do so, so thank you for that! Hey man im josh (talk) 12:04, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
I really only have one more list to create at this point, List of Green Bay Packers award winners, but it has sent me down a rabbit hole (who knew there were so many awards) so I have let the draft sit for a while. I also have to figure out what to do with Green Bay Packers All-Time Roster *facepalm*. My project now is notable games. It has oddly been one of the more enjoyable writing projects so far, its fun (and sad) to relive some of the more exciting games in Packers' history. After that, I may start taking a crack at rivalries. I'm serious about a collab on Lions–Packers rivalry, if you are ever interested later this year. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:18, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

There it is!

Congrats again, Josh! I heard the rumbling the other day and didn't want to jink anything, lol. Now I saw the 'Promotion' message. Great job! John. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks John! That's part 2 of 4 in the books, with part 3 of 4 of the future featured topics nominated! Hey man im josh (talk) 01:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
You got it! Great to hear. I'll be back soon. :) Regards, Bringingthewood (talk) 01:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Detroit Lions draft history

On 29 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Detroit Lions draft history, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that fifteen future Pro Football Hall of Fame players have been drafted by the Detroit Lions? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Detroit Lions draft history. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Detroit Lions draft history), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 July newsletter

The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.

The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:

The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:30, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer

Hello, My New Page reviewer right was removed my you due to being inactive over a long period of time. Now that I have some free time in my hand, I want to get back into active Wikipedia editing. Since NPP was one aspect that I enjoyed working on, Can you please grant me the NPR rights again so that I can start from the point where I was most comfortable and slowly diverging into other areas of constructive wiki editing. Regards Razer(talk) 14:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Razer2115: I'm a little bit busy at the moment but it's best to make the request at WP:PERM mentioning such. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
I understand. I will make a request on Wikipedia:Requests for permissions, Thanks. Razer(talk) 14:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
New FL Delegate
Welcome to being a Featured List delegate! Someone gave me a spear when I joined, so that makes it traditional to give you one too. --PresN 14:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
I love it and I'll wield it proudly, thanks @PresN! Hey man im josh (talk) 14:24, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Congrats! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 14:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

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Jack Rankin

Hello,

A few months ago I had put up a Wikipedia page for Jack Rankin, who is a British politician who was standing in the 2024 general election. It was taken down as he was yet to be elected. However, he has been voted in this morning: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/uk/constituencies/E14001588

Do you mind reinstating it and I'll edit it to be up to date as soon as it's up? MHan2145 (talk) 13:15, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

@MHan2145: I've restored the page and moved it to your user space at User:MHan2145/Jack Rankin (British politician). You are free to update the page and move it back to main space, as he would now meet WP:NPOL, though the page could definitely use some work. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).

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Template:Washington Redskins 1991 NFL draft picks and Template:Washington Redskins 1992 NFL draft picks

Looks like you got the two years mixed up. Could you please straighten that all out:) Thanks. --DB1729talk 16:07, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

What the hell... I see what happened, it was because of the sortkey that I fixed here. I made the moves with an excel sheet I created, and based on the sort being out of order (from the category), they were ordered wrong in my sheet. I've moved the pages around to fix this. Thanks for catching this @DB1729! Hey man im josh (talk) 16:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
You might want to check through your latest moves in this area. I found another pair the same way: Template:Washington Redskins 1971 NFL draft picks/Template:Washington Redskins 1972 NFL draft picks. --DB1729talk 16:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
@DB1729: It looks like this is all related to bad sort names. I have a set I was just about to run that I verified and checked @DB1729. If only I could beat the person who mistakenly added the wrong sort keys! Blech, before I used AWB I suppose since I didn't just use {{subst:title year}}. I have 5 teams left to run through, and I'm checking them all now. But, based on the reason for the screw up, I do feel relatively good about it. I know exactly how I plan to check and verify them all. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Okay great, Josh. I'm just glad to see the bad sortkey person wasn't me;) DB1729talk 16:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

July

Hi. You draftified this article in May. Looks like yet another incomplete version has been incorporated by user Bryant. zoglophie•talk• 06:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Hold on, the draft and the main article exist, but the main article appears to be much longer than the draft. Template:48JCLsignature 11:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks!

A Barnstar!
Thanks for participating in the June 2024 backlog drive!
You scored 223 points while adding citations to articles during WikiProject Reliability's first {{citation needed}} backlog drive, earning you this citation barnstar. Thanks for helping out!

Pichpich (talk) 21:51, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Promotion of List of Jacksonville Jaguars seasons

Congratulations, Hey man im josh! The list you nominated, List of Jacksonville Jaguars seasons, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, PresN (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Triple Crown?

About this, I thought featured topics were considered a piece of featured content instead of a piece of good content, as shown on many other Triple Crowns. Excuse me if I'm wrong, I'm a bit of an idiot. — 48JCL 00:13, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

@48JCL: I believe it would qualify as a topic, based on the following:
...for featured topics they need to have been a major contributor to at least two featured articles within it as well. A topic counts as an additional good or featured item, even if all the individual content within it has already been counted separately for the award.
Any type of featured content counts toward a Triple Crown. Editors may mix and match different types of featured material when requesting the Imperial Triple Crown Jewels and beyond.
I might be wrong, but either way, I'm excited for the possibility of my first featured topic. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, I would never get a WP:FT, (or even a WP:GT really wish I could though. — 48JCL 00:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
@48JCL: I don't do GAs, so this is my only shot at it. Hoping for the best based on what appear to be flexibility built into the intentions.... Hey man im josh (talk) 00:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Jaguars

I'm congratulating you, Josh. Promotion message be damned, lol. Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks John! I only have three more lists ready to nominate... I think I need to build my backlog up. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
You're welcome, you deserve it. ONLY THREE?? Yeah, that sounds good ..you build it and I'll congratulate you on building it. ;) See you later. John.
LOL. I finally beat the promotion message. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

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Promotion of Detroit Lions draft picks (1970–present)

Congratulations, Hey man im josh! The list you nominated, Detroit Lions draft picks (1970–present), has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

UAAP season 61

This was one of the articles that were moved, but can't be reverted to the original title. I'd appreciate if it can be reverted to the original title pending discussion. Howard the Duck (talk) 21:02, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

@Howard the Duck: Done. In the future, this request is best made at WP:RM/TR, where someone can help you out in a more timely manner than I was able to this time. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:SwiftLint

I'd like to ask your advice regarding this article, which was rejected for "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources.".

The three references I've attached all

  1. dedicate multiple pages or sections to SwiftLint, according to their tables of contents.
  2. are references to published print books, published or distributed through mainstream publishers (Manning, Springer, etc)
  3. are independent of the subject

I'm not sure what I'm missing to meet the in-depth, reliable, secondary, independent criteria.

I'd totally agree that the wording of my link to the references ("It is the most commonly recommended Swift linter") is slightly clumsy, but in terms of the references themselves, can you give me any clue as to what I'm missing? Mildm8nnered (talk) 14:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Mildm8nnered. Thank you for your efforts, but I don't have a ton of time on my hands at the moment. Your best bet is asking at the AfC help desk, which can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey Josh!

Hey, I hope you are doing well. I want to express my deepest apologies for what happened the last time we talked. At that time, I wanted to explain to you personally on Discord why I was having those types of conversations (which I acknowledge was my fault). Nearly two months have passed, and I want to request that you unban my Discord account from the Wikipedia group. I hope you will give me one more chance. I promise I will not do anything that violates the policies. Thanks, and happy editing, Josh. GrabUp - Talk 09:12, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

@Grabup: What was your Discord name? Hey man im josh (talk) 12:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. My discord name is wiki_grabup GrabUp - Talk 13:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
@Grabup: I'm unblocked you from the Discord server. For clarity sake, even though I believe you do understand now, do not directly message admins from the server as a form of forumshopping. Reaching out to admins is not prohibited, but going around to different ones until you get the answer you want is not acceptable. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:13, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the unblock Josh, I truly understand what you said. Happy Editing. GrabUp - Talk 14:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Yuna Kim A-class assessment

Hi Josh, so Yuna Kim is up for an A-class assessment and it's currently languishing because we haven't been able to find a third reviewer. This bio is the first A-class assessment by WikiProject Figure Skating; see here for more information. I know you don't tend to work on figure skating articles regularly, but you seem to be an knowledgeable and experienced editor who likes sports, so would you mind helping us out? It'd be muchly appreciated. Thanks, Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Figureskatingfan, I'm sorry, I just realized I never responded to this! I appreciate your interest and kind words, but I have a fair bit on my plate right now and I'm not familiar enough with the project's guidelines to be a good reviewer in this case. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Yah, I know about having a full plate. We're getting a bit desperate, but thanks for the response. If you change you mind... ;) Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Thanks for all the work you do at WP:FLC (and at the Discord guiding people about featured lists)! It is very appreciated. :) Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:30, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
@Staraction: Thank you so much for the kind words and taking time out of your day to give me this! I very much appreciate it =) Hey man im josh (talk) 22:00, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

FL thoughts?

I am planning to get A. Sreekar Prasad filmography as a FL and I haven't worked on FL/GA articles before. Do you think it's a suitable article? He has worked on more than 600 films in his career. Should the list be complete or can it include only the well known films? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 20:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

@Jeraxmoira: I have no doubts it can get there, but it's not referenced well enough at this point (recently created, so I'm of course assuming it'll become more well referenced). You'll also need to incorporate row scopes and columns for accessibility. Lucky for you, we've got 149 featured lists based on actor's filmography already, so there's plenty to compare your recent creation against when considering how to improve it and prepare it further =) Hey man im josh (talk) 20:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
I did glance through many of them on the list earlier but couldn't find any about an Editor. The main concern I have is whether it is okay for an article to have a list of 600+ films with an inline citation for each? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 20:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
@Jeraxmoira: I don't see why not. Ideally you'll be able to reuse a number of the references to trim down on things a bit, but there's no reason you couldn't have 600 references. It would just really suck for the source reviewer. Hey man im josh (talk) 03:36, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

It was hiding!

A BIG BELATED CONGRATS, JOSH! Nothing came over on my watchlist. I should stick with my old way of looking for things, lol. Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:54, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks again John! Hey man im josh (talk) 12:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

UAA bot

Hi, Josh. I saw just today that the bot was disabled due to JamesR being deceased (RIP to him). Do you ever think in the future you're going to develop a bot that will do UAA work? (I'm not sure if there's any other bot that can operate UAA) NoobThreePointOh (talk) 12:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

@NoobThreePointOh: I was sad to hear about JamesR's passing... As for the bot, I won't be the person to set something up, that's not my area of expertice. I have mentioned it to a person that I'm confident could handle it if they wanted to, but I'm sure there's going to be a discussion somewhere about the bot tasks. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:16, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
I really hope so because... y'know, it's probably a massive chore trying to remove the users manually. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 12:54, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

2023 NBA G League expansion draft

You added a template for mor sources, I added two, I think everything in the article is referenced. Themanwithnowifi (talk) 14:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

@Themanwithnowifi: Feel free to remove the tag if you believe the issue has been addressed :) Hey man im josh (talk) 14:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey man im bot

The AI revolution!
After all of the progress we've seen with LLMs we've decided that natural intelligence makes the best bots. Thanks for doing that tedious work. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Beep boop! Thank you for the kind words and recognition. You will be spared when power belongs to the bots. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:16, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

AAA Athletics articles

Hi Hey man im josh, thanks for reviewing the AAA Championships articles, I need to start on the women's equivalent soon. I didn't realise that articles I created still went through the page review because I have been creating articles for a long time. Anyway thanks again. ApricotFoot (talk) 16:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

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Botswana WHS

Hi, I see that the List of World Heritage Sites in Botswana has been promoted. Do I get a credit as a co-nominator as well? Cheers :) Tone 06:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

@Tone: I see what happened, I had a similar issue once as a co-nom. I've tweaked the nomination in hopes that the bot properly updates Wikipedia:Featured lists promoted in 2024 (which is what WP:WBFLN is based on). I've also manually given you the talk page message for the time being. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:25, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! I guess the bot will update it tomorrow. Great job with maintaining the FL nominations, appreciated. Tone 14:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Hey @Tone. Just pinging you to let you know that Wikipedia:Featured lists promoted in 2024 updated and the bot properly included your name as a nominator. WP:WBFLN will count it towards your promotions. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Perfect, thanks! Tone 07:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

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Category:Southland, New Zealand

Hey man. The subcats of Category:Southland, New Zealand got moved, but not this head cat. Just an oversight? Nurg (talk) 00:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Nurg. I completely understand why you're wondering and how it's confusing if you're unfamiliar. After nominations have sat for at least 48 hours at WP:CFDS, they are moved to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working, where the bot (JJMC89 bot III) works on moving pages and categories. Sometimes it goes in an order that appears to be strange for those on the outside, but it does eventually get through all of them, even if the subcats appear to be orphaned for a short bit. In time, the bot gets through all of it and, based on what I'm seeing, did exactly that since you left this message =) Entirely reasonable question! Hey man im josh (talk) 11:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Indeed, I didn't know how it worked. Thanks for the explanation. All good now. Keep up the good work, Nurg (talk) 20:57, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
@Nurg: I've been exacted where you are confusion wise til I figured it out lol. Good thought to be following up and helping to make sure things are cleaned up! Hey man im josh (talk) 21:12, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

NPR requests

Hi! Since you've worked on WP:PERM/NPR before, I was wondering if you could take a look at some of the earliest requests on there (including mine), since they've been sitting around for almost a month now. No worries if you wouldn't like to work on that right now though! Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 00:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Suntooooth, thank you for your interest and volunteering. Truth be told, if your application hasn't been processed in that amount of time, it's because people either have concerns or they don't see enough to make them comfortable with granting. My advice to those who may have the knowledge, but don't have the demonstrated / easily findable examples of such, which is something we look for when processing applications, is to spend some time at WP:AFD making policy based votes. Try not to just pile on at the end, when the decision has already been made, because we don't look for 100% "correct" votes. What we look for is that the rationale used when voting is policy based and shows that, even if you're not always on the right side of the vote, you're voicing opinions that showcase an understanding of notability guidelines, even if you sometimes disagree about where the line is. I also encourage CSD tagging, and to enable the CSD log functionality of Twinkle so that we have easily searchable examples of experience. Finally, I'd also encourage Articles for creation, which typically has a lower barrier of entry for applicants and can be a fantastic opportunity to help newer editors and to demonstrate experience said guidelines. It's okay if experience is only in a certain area of the guidelines as well, that's how everybody starts, get comfortable somewhere and use WP:AFCSORT and WP:NPPSORT to focus on the area you're comfortable with til you comfortable with the process. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the great advice! It's just a little frustrating that requests are being left unanswered. I'd much rather be told "no" quickly (if that's the outcome) than be left waiting for almost a month. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 17:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
That's fair @Suntooooth. I don't like to keep people waiting, but I also like to leave it for others to see if they're familiar with an applicant. It ends up being that nobody wants to actually decline the person, and someone has to be the bad guy. But that's also not fair to the applicants, but we also don't want to come off as jerks by quickly shooting people down. We can definitely be doing better than we are in that aspect, and it's good to hear this type of feedback. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:41, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:2025 Pro Bowl Games

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 05:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Grant me NPR

On January I requested you to revoke my user membership of NPR because I was not active at that time but now I am active so you can make me NPR. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️Let's Talk ! 10:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

No problem @LordVoldemort728, I've re-granted you a 2-month trial. Happy editing, and remember to check out WP:NPPSORT. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:19, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️Let's Talk ! 02:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Promotion of Detroit Lions draft picks (1936–1969)

Congratulations, Hey man im josh! The list you nominated, Detroit Lions draft picks (1936–1969), has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

And another one!

Great job, killer! John. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks John :) Hey man im josh (talk) 12:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Hmm

I thought SpacedFarmer was topic banned from AfD? I guess no one ever closed it, lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Unclear to me @WikiOriginal-9, I didn't keep an eye on the topic after a while. I know I voted in that so I'd be unable to close it, but I guess it wouldn't be inappropriate if you wanted to unarchive of it. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:32, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

ّIs it totally helpless?

Dear Josh can you help in editing the "Axis of Coordintes" ?! Artaxerex (talk) 18:03, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

@Artaxerex: I'm not sure what that is, so I'm not particularly interested in editing that area. Sorry. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:23, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

DYK for 1964 Summer Olympics medal table

On 6 August 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 1964 Summer Olympics medal table, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Larisa Latynina became the most-medalled Olympian after she won six medals at the 1964 Summer Olympics? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1964 Summer Olympics medal table. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 1964 Summer Olympics medal table), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).

Administrator changes

readded Isabelle Belato
removed

Interface administrator changes

readded Izno

CheckUser changes

removed Barkeep49

Technical news

  • Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
  • Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.

Arbitration

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List of Detroit Lions team records

So when are you going to make this one?? :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Gonzo fan2007, not a terrible idea, but iunnoooo. Some of us just aren't as good as you are at promoting their team's articles :P Hey man im josh (talk) 16:06, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

PFR website fields

Would you be opposed to me working on those website field updates as I come across them? I do not know if a bot job is lined up. Red Director (talk) 19:13, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Red Director, I have no opposition whatsoever to that. I actually just compared my watchlist to pages that linked to PFR and just took care of a handful of them myself, figuring improving the formatting of some refs on these pages to be better than nothing. My main focus has been replacing the usage on the lists I've worked/been working on to promote. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
@Red Director: I know you expand references pretty often, and man I'm grateful and appreciative of that, but had you not been linking the source/work/publisher before? Or is it just that you didn't realize PFR had its own page and made sense to Wikilink? Honestly I skip over your edits in my watchlist so often, and I'm seeing it so much now, that I can't recall and thought it'd just be easier to ask lol. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:45, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
No problem. In the previous years, I rarely would wikilink the site because the ProveIt auto filled the site information. Linking the site seems to be very inconsistent across the board. Doing an edit specifically for just linking the site on one or two refs kinda seems like too small of a change to warrant a full edit in my opinion. I try to diversify my edits more these days over news and media outlets unless PFR is the only source I can find. Linking websites in refs are a little time consuming on sites I do not know have a Wiki or not. I will take any advice on your end. AWB probably can knock out most PFR refs by making a replace command for 'website=Pro-Football-Reference.com' to 'website=Pro Football Reference'. I do not want to take on such a task with AWB. I would rather an admin do it because that makes it more official. Red Director (talk) 22:51, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
@Red Director: So, I'm actually a delegate (coordinator) at WP:Featured list candidates and I do a lot of source reviews. Generally, when articles are nominated, we ask for consistency in the reference styling above all else. The most common stylings include:
  • Link everything: link everything that I can in references, I believe it's the most useful way to present them in case anybody wants to follow up on a source if they've hovered over the reference.
  • Link nothing: Personally I hate this, but it's acceptable if consistent. I think it makes it harder to determine reliability of sources
  • Link first occurrence: As we do with items in a lead, some people prefer to link only the first occurrence of a possible wiki-linkable item in the reference section
  • Other: Again, the name of the game is consistency when nominating content. Gonzo fan2007, a prolific admin and Green Bay Packers content promoter (puke, said the Lions fan), links the first occurrence of newspapers and magazines, but not websites. They're consistent in their formatting when nominating pages, and we accept that
I mention this not because I think you're looking to nominate everything you work on, you work on way too much for me to think that. I just think the default is wikilink all, based on the fact you don't always know which reference will end up first if you use a reference from a preciously linked source, so linking only the first becomes a bit harder to manage. Based on not linking having disadvantages, I do believe the default for most is to link.
This is all just a preamble to say that if you want to add wiki links in references, then in just about every case, it's most likely to be an improvement. Especially if someone wants to pick up and promote it at some point. Additionally, those larger players articles, you'll have an easier time adding links and keeping it consistent than keeping them consistently off.
Anyways, do or don't, it's absolutely up to you. Everything you're doing is an improvement even if you choose not to go for this aspect based on its nicheness (GA/FA/FL). Hey man im josh (talk) 23:15, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the detailed response. I can tell you for a fact that getting featured is nice but not a goal. I have a grasp on what is considered a better improvement than others on here after years of being on here I feel. I wish a common ground could be found. Like if it is consensus for all to be linked, I wish the ProveIt and Citer tools would default to that. Some news sources unfortunately redlink, but on the plus side, it could tell us which of those need articles. I have added enough PFR over the years on my most edited pages to fix those as I come across. I will find a way to incorporate website links into my edits. Maybe not as a single edit, but throwing in those on other single edits to make the change more impactful. If I need to change anything, just let me know and I will be glad to listen. Thanks for all you do. Red Director (talk) 23:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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