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WikiCup 2024 May newsletter

The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.

The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:

The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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Notification of administrators without tools

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TolBot (talk) 21:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Imagine that .. another one.

Hey, hey, hey, Hey man im josh ..... CONGRATS AGAIN!! Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you thank you! Hey man im josh (talk) 12:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:):):):) -- Until the next time! - Bringingthewood (talk) 01:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Mid week awarding at EotW

You may have noticed that I have begun to give out mid-week awards. This is to lessen the time that the nomination "sits in the Queue waiting". Not too long ago there were 17 nominations in the queue. When this happens the supportive numbers/figures become outdated. The next three nominations are yours from February. If I give one out on next Wednesday, by Sunday May 10, we will have moved into March nominations. Hope this works for you. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 12:40, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey I've got no problem with it @Buster7. I trust how you want to manage the process and if we can shoehorn in recognition of more users throughout the year, then I'm alllll for it. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:42, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Possible sockpuppetry

Hello Hey man im josh, I'm just wondering if it would be possible for you to look into a current deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 Alaska Air Fuel Douglas C-54 crash, as it appears to me that a user, User:GeekyAviation, is using two accounts to vote for a keep consensus, 2605:8D80:402:704F:E038:5250:7DD4:7434

Both him and the IP have similar writing style:

1. Talk page: anyone with an autoconfirmed account can nominate an article for deletion but for a flight like this that is a huge aircraft; Douglas C-54D, including 2 deaths, i personally think is notable. There is plenty of coverage around the internet. GeekyAviation (talk) 02:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

2. Deletion discussion: * Keep - I mean its a cargo jet, of course it only has a few on board but this is a huge airplane, it is very uncommon and has made a lot of coverage around the internet WP:Notability. This is just my opinion that this should stay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:8D80:402:704F:E038:5250:7DD4:7434 (talk) 18:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

3. Deletion discussion Keep - Like the IP said above, it is uncommon for a plane like a Douglas C-54 to crash. i understand there is only two fatalities but its also a cargo jet carrying lots of stuff. Its one of those crashes that many people may think isn't notable, but is. WP:GNG WP:Notability — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeekyAviation (talk • contribs) 01:07, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

This also was the IP address that was constantly removing the notability template on 2024 Alaska Air Fuel Douglas C-54 crash, and it appears to me that both of these accounts are tied. Both of them use the term cargo jet, both of them didn't sign their replies and their writing styles, overall, look similar.

Thank you and have a nice rest of your day. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 01:45, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

you are really an ignorant person, it shows. Firstly you are going around the whole aviation world of wikipedia and making unnecessary changes. I've been on wikipedia for a good amount of time and i have a good understanding what should stay and what should not. You are also an arrogant type of person on what edits i make like organizing the AFD you made. Speaking of AFD, you are abusing your power of autoconfirmed and making deletion articles all over. I agree on some, not all. Its also ironic how you make such a professional note to an admin knowing you are a sockpuppetry suspect aswell. GeekyAviation (talk) 02:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
You've been on wikipedia since the 29th of April... Aviationwikiflight (talk) 02:10, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
I don't need an account to use wikipedia GeekyAviation (talk) 02:14, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
but decided to create one on the 29th GeekyAviation (talk) 02:14, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Hey @Aviationwikiflight. Reports like this are best made to WP:SPI. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Drafts, PRODs and stuff

Hello, Josh,

You might have noticed that we have a higher than average number of drafts expiring today. I did a little investigating and it's due to a big AFC backlog drive last November. So, we are likely to have more than our current average of ~150 expiring drafts/day but I can't imagine there will be any higher numbers than today's 400+ drafts until we get to the end of the month. But especially when our regular editors are off-line, the extra help is always appreciated and it looks like you were busy from early this morning (at least according to Pacific time!). I'm not sure if you are also at work or school but your help is very welcome when we get these days with a higher level of activity. Many thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 17:47, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Liz, I actually was involved in the backlog drive and, once I saw the deluge of drafts and the spacing of their timing, I quickly realized it had to do with that backlog drive. I'll definitely be around to help out with it and help to take a little bit of pressure off of you. More than happy to help and always appreciate you reaching out! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:49, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Scottish government

I don't know if there's any connection here, but just after you blocked the editor on the 2024 Scottish government crisis article a new account registered which has so far only edited the same thing. One of the edits here changed the article's lead section to a comment which has a very similar writing style to the previous editor's replies on talk. Might be nothing, but thought I'd make you aware. Thanks for your time today as well. Cheers—Tim O'Doherty (talk) 23:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

@Tim O'Doherty: I've protected the page for now. Definitely suspicious but I'm not an expert with sock puppets. May be worth a report at WP:SPI. Hey man im josh (talk) 23:18, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Cheers. Not an expert either: might have a look though. Thanks again for your time today—Tim O'Doherty (talk) 23:20, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you Josh for reviewing the page 1967-68 Inter Milan season. HugoAcosta9 (talk) 00:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).

Administrator changes

readded Nyttend
removed

Bureaucrat changes

removed Nihonjoe

CheckUser changes

readded Joe Roe

Oversight changes

removed GeneralNotability

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Shakespopi - 2024

Hello Josh! How are you doing? Pls I want to know why you placed Unreliable source tag on Shakespopi. Any article you feel is unreliable, you help edit; That's it.. Thank You. And this article have already been reviews before. ] 2RDD (talk) 17:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

@2RDD: Any article you feel is unreliable, you help edit; That's it.. – This may be your point of view, but this is not true, this is the reason that the tags exist, to call attention to the issue. Just because someone calls attention to an issue does not mean they are responsible for fixing said issue. As for being marked as reviewed, I'm the one who did so, and just because an marked has been marked as reviewed does not mean that sources used are as reliable as they should be. The unreliable sources used are to do with BellaNaija and Instagram, while Pulse is known to be mostly gossip or paid publications. It does not mean the article needs to be deleted, but it means the article could be supported with better references. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:06, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
@Hey man im josh: I feel You. Thank You 2RDD (talk) 18:17, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

About the redirect page

Hi my friend, how are you? I noticed that you canceled my request to delete a redirect page known as «Wirt (Over the Garden Wall)», I want to delete it to create an article about the subject because it is popular and need an article about it, not a redirect page, so why you canceled my request? And thank you my friend🙂. علي العالم (talk) 13:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Your request does not meet any of the possible speedy deletion rationales listed at WP:CSD. You are welcome to start a draft at WP:AFC and submit it for review or to start an article from the redirect. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
No my friend, it meets a reason, which is the 10th reason in «Wikipedia
Redirects for discussion». علي العالم (talk) 13:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Rationale listed at WP:RFD#DELETE, which are common reasons for deletion but are not codified policy, is not the same thing as WP:CSD, which refers to criteria for speedy deletions. The rationale you're referencing does not apply to speedy deletions. You would need to nominate the redirect for deletion at WP:RFD in order to try to use #10 of WP:RFD#DELETE. The best way is to start an article from the redirect or to start a draft at WP:AFC that can overwrite the redirect when the draft is completed. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Can I create an article about this subject without do any edit in the redirect page? علي العالم (talk) 14:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
That's typically why you would start an article at WP:AFC, or, to be more specific, Draft:Wirt (Over the Garden Wall). That way, when completed, the draft can be moved over the redirect. When a draft is completed, redirects qualify for G6 speedy deletion. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Ahhh I understand you, so I need to create this draft, and after that delete the redirect page? And sorry for annoyed you🙂. علي العالم (talk) 14:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
No worries. Yes, if you create a draft first, that's when it makes the most sense for us to delete the redirect. Redirects are for useful search terms to topics that are relevant to that search term. In this case, it wouldn't be helpful for us to delete the redirect if we didn't have anything to replace it with, which is why it doesn't currently qualify for speedy deletion. If we have a draft ready to move there, then it does. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:08, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi friend! I wrote a draft about the subject, you can see it, is that good? And thank you friend. علي العالم (talk) 16:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

X3 deletions

FYI I've undone several of your X3 deletions because X3 requires that the redirect [not] contain substantive page history (e.g. from a merge), which you don't appear to have checked for. I also undeleted 365(number)36(movie), as it survived RfD and hence can't be speedy deleted. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up @Pppery, I appreciate you taking care of this. I had hundreds of tabs open yesterday in the process and while I did try to check them I clearly made some mistakes. I'll have to move a bit slower or find a better way to go about it, possibly with a quarry query... hmm... anyways, that part is a me problem. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
I have undeleted Humud Dakhil Humud Sa'id Al-((Jad'an (previously survived RfD) and Josh Taylor(Neighbours) (has prior article history) from your most recent batch deletion. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Damn it! I don't understand how I missed the RfD in the page history of the first redirect, since I'm checking the page history of every redirect with more than 1 revision... I see the mistake I made in the second one. I'm just going to take a break from X3s because I'm clearly going too fast and making avoidable mistakes. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Requesting project space undeletion of 2024 NACAC Championships

Hi @Hey man im josh, thanks for your help cleaning up the encyclopedia. I noticed you deleted 2024 NACAC Championships because it was created by User:GoOKC who was banned for copyright violations and socking.

I was wondering if you could undelete it and move it to WP:WikiProject Athletics/Drafts/2024 NACAC Championships. This way, once the event happens in June we can easily move it back to mainspace, and we don't have to duplicate the work. Last I checked, the article did not have any copyright violations.

Thank you, --Habst (talk) 16:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

@Habst: Done. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:08, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks

Greetings Josh, thank you for reviewing the 1993-94 AC Fiorentina season. Best regards.HugoAcosta9 (talk) 17:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

For that detailed analysis regarding the circumstances leading upto my block. It was indeed very helpful :) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 17:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Delicious! I might actually barbeque some burgers up tonight now that I'm thinking about it... Thanks @The Herald. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beckham trade to Miami

You said on the page for Odell Beckham Jr. that I cannot edit the page until either the team or Beckham himself confirms the trade, and that I cannot edit it because the trade is just gossip. What if the League itself confirms the trade? FoxX 07 (talk) 20:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

@FoxX 07: That'd be fine. The whole idea is to avoid any news source that says "reported", or, "agreed to terms", because these are unofficial and VERY often end up not panning out. We just want to make sure it comes from an official source, which is usually the player, the team, the player's agent, etc.. Keep in mind that there are often articles on NFL.com that include the word "reported", which, in essence, just makes it gossip. WP:SPORTSTRANS has a good deal of information on this. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:04, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Good point. Thanks for the response. FoxX 07 (talk) 20:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

May Backlog Drive

Hello - I had attempted to participate in the May backlog drive and inadvertently created more work for admins with mis-application of WP:A7 tags. What do you recommend as best action to return to NPP to contribute to the effort? TRL (talk) 19:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

@Trlovejoy: I usually encourage people to start out at WP:NPPSORT and focus on the areas they're most comfortable with. Once familiar and comfortable with the process again, then branch out to other areas you want to take a shot at. As for proving yourself if you want to join NPP, the best course of action would be to participate at WP:AFC, WT:AFC, and by successfully and correctly adding CSD tags. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Green Bay Packers draft picks (1970–present)

I am working on Green Bay Packers draft picks (1970–present) and wanted to get your thoughts on what should be called out from a color perspective in the key. I am thinking of dropping Pro Bowls/All-Pros and going with my standard Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame and Pro Football Hall of Fame. I am also contemplating add Rookie of the Year, similar to what I did for List of Green Bay Packers first-round draft picks. Thoughts? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: I'm tempted to keep it to major awards, avoiding the annoyance of dealing with all-pro selectors altogether. It's been a busy week and I usually do very little editing on the weekends, but I absolutely intend on taking a look and giving feedback when I can! Hey man im josh (talk) 00:40, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins

Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Move cleanups

Hey man, thanks for the nearly 200 Championship case-fixing moves you did on April 30. But you didn't do any of the cleanup (as far as I've noticed anyway). I just did this edit as an example of what's needed (or you could do differently). If you have JWB or some such tool to help, it should go fast. For me to work on them by hand would be too slow. Dicklyon (talk) 04:00, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Just a note

Hey, Josh,

I hope you had a good weekend. With the AFC backlog drive, a screw-up where SDZeroBot wasn't showing all of the pages that needed to be deleted (go look at User:SDZeroBot/G13 eligible for the past few days!) and Explicit being gone from the project for awhile now, the expiring drafts really piled up into the hundreds since I've also been busy taking care of my mom who is on hospice care right now. But we have a new editor helper who tagged hundreds of them with CSD tags this afternoon and I believe we are all caught up.

So, I'm leaving this note to catch you up on what's been happening but also to alert you that, at least for the U.S. (and Canada?), the time changed for daylight savings time/standard time on November 5th so we can no longer go by the time of the last edit in the page history, we need to use SDZeroBot's UTC time listing. Sometimes when I'm working fast, I just been looking at page histories to make sure I'm deleting drafts at the right time but now you have to add an hour to the time of the last edit. Perhaps you are smarter than I and knew this already but I thought I'd mention it since it did change today.

That's it. Take care, Liz Read! Talk! 03:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Liz, thanks for heads up. I'm really sorry to hear about your mother, I know how caring for someone can be. I'll be paying attention to my UTC clock that I have at all times and I'll be doing my best to keep helping out with it. Hopefully we'll stay on top of it without Explicit, but if you ever need a bit of a break from it, I'll be around to take care of anything you've missed/left in the mornings when I get on :) Hey man im josh (talk) 13:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

The page: Carl Vermeulen artist

Hello, the page: Carl Vermeulen artist has been removed. Why? Carl Vermeulen artist (talk) 15:22, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

@Carl Vermeulen artist: As was mentioned on your talk page, your user page was deleted under U5 rationale. To be more specific, your user page was a violation of WP:NOTWEBHOST / WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:25, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

WP:PMCRITERIA

This doesn't seem a great shortcut, given the existing shortcuts WP:PMRC/WP:PMVRC that also stand for "page mover criteria" (by way of WP:PMR/WP:PMVR being "page mover") but which go to a different section, Wikipedia:Page mover#Redirect suppression criteria. I'd suggest instead WP:PMGRANT like WP:TPEGRANT. SilverLocust 💬 21:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@SilverLocust: While I do believe PM is an acceptable acronym for page movers, you do raise a valid point about the default shortcuts for page mover not being WP:PM.
I agree that the shortcut at the target of WP:PMCRITERIA should be replaced, but I'm not quite sure with what. I'm somewhat opposed to using "grant" in the shortcuts because of Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Granting and revoking user rights. That page contains various administrator guides about the process and I'd argue WP:TPEGRANT should probably be retargeted to Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Template editor/Administrator instructions.
I think PMCRITERIA to Wikipedia:Page_mover#Guidelines_for_granting makes sense, given the usage of similar shortcuts like WP:NPRCRITERIA, and I think the inclusion of the "R" for redirect in the shortcut to the redirect suppression criteria (WP:PMRC and WP:PMVRC) is enough to remember and differentiate between the two. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
The R doesn't stand for redirect. The section was called "Page mover criteria" in 2016 when the original section shortcut, WP:PM/C, was created. A couple weeks after that, when WP:PMRC and WP:PMVRC were created to have shortcuts without a slash suggesting a subpage (and because WP:PMC was taken for something else, much like WP:PM), the section heading had been changed to "Redirect suppression criteria" but the section began, "The page mover criteria describes [sic] when redirects can be suppressed." (permalink).
WP:NPRCRITERIA and WP:NPPCRITERIA were created about six months ago. Other WP:[perm]CRITERIA shortcuts seem to be ones that you created this month. It's certainly not too late to use GRANT for those as well. It's not particularly unambiguous to use CRITERIA as a shortcut for "guidelines for granting" when there are other sections covering "criteria for revoking" and criteria for use (such as WP:ROLLBACKUSE).
The admin instructions are seldom linked, unlike each perm's general info page, and the admin instructions are in a floating link at the top of each PERM subpage. In what circumstance would you want to link to the admin instruction page via a shortcut, and why would that be a more common use for GRANT? (See how few links there are at Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Template editor/Administrator instructions or even Special:WhatLinksHere/WP:PERM/AI.) SilverLocust 💬 17:36, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Hey @SilverLocust: I just wanted to let you know that I'm not ignoring you, I just don't typically edit on the weekend and I've been quite busy today. I definitely will get back to you though so that this can get sorted out. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:08, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
@SilverLocust: I feel awful, I've really put this off way too long, but it's been on my mind. I just feel as though I've been so busy. However, I just had a thought. Perhaps this is a discussion best suited for WT:PERM? Better option than you and I trying to decide and someone may come up with a better solution altogether :) Hey man im josh (talk) 12:17, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Started a discussion there and pinged you :) Hey man im josh (talk) 13:20, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Backlog drive

I am wondering if you know why my name is not on the list even though I signed up a special:diff/1222345386 on May 5. Bruxton (talk) 04:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Bruxton, I see the problem, and I fixed it here. We actually need people to sign up to the drive by adding their user talk page but you signed up by adding user page instead. Easy mistake to make. You should appear on the leaderboard when the next update occurs. Your past reviews during the month of May should also be included in the table and counted. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:34, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Thank you. Bruxton (talk) 13:53, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Reliability of sources

Among the four Grace Kennedy album articles I recently created, you tagged three with the 'unreliable sources' template. Is it because of Discogs sources (the common denominator that I notice)? I was under impression they were all right, they are practically everywhere on Wikipedia. And if they are not, what sources do you like to use? Dimancheron (talk) 17:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Dimancheron. It's to do with the Discogs and IMDB sources that are in use. These are both user generated content which is largely unmoderated, which is why they're not considered reliable, and they do not contribute towards whether a song, album, or artist are considered notable. I do encourage you to add more sources to the articles that I added those tags to, as they're currently lacking a bit at the moment. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

IPL Teams by season articles

Hi! I noticed your page moves of IPL Teams by season articles; The have been kept in that kind of naming for 17 years now, so there are about 160 articles with this kind of naming. I seriously think that before making this sort of page move, we should discuss this and get consensus at the Wikiproject's talkpage. Thank you! 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 17:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@Vestrian24Bio: "We have done this forever" is not a valid reason to keep using strange naming schemes. You're welcome to revert the moves and start a discussion, but "X team in x year" is not a format used for the team seasons of any league that I've come across during NPP work, except apparently this one. Realistically 2024 <team> season is the obvious and more practical naming scheme to follow, but I'll leave that up to you to investigate. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Could you please tell me which page of the Naming convention says about this; There are many pages in it. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 17:10, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
@Vestrian24Bio: I do not have a specific link for you in this instance, though there may possibly be one that exists. In this case, I'm speaking from several years of experience patrolling and reviewing new pages. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Okay, I've looked through some of these sort of articles.
  1. T20 World Cup teams
    Afghanistan at the 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup
    Australia at the 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup
    England at the 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup
    India at the 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup
    Pakistan at the 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup
    South Africa at the 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup
  2. Cricket World Cup teams (non-season based)
    Afghanistan at the Cricket World Cup
    Bangladesh at the Cricket World Cup
    India at the Cricket World Cup
    Sri Lanka at the Cricket World Cup
    Australia at the Cricket World Cup
    England at the Cricket World Cup
    Ireland at the Cricket World Cup
    Netherlands at the Cricket World Cup
    Scotland at the Cricket World Cup
    7 more
  3. NOCs at the Olympics
    United States at the 2020 Summer Olympics
    India at the 2020 Summer Olympics
    Sri Lanka at the 2020 Summer Olympics
    Australia at the 2020 Summer Olympics
    New Zealand at the 2020 Summer Olympics
    and many more.
𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 02:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
In order to match these the IPL articles needs to be like Chennai Super Kings at the 2024 Indian Premier League. Now, I'm going to open a RM about this here and if made consensus then all approx. 160 pages can be moved. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 02:56, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
I've reverted your page moves for now. You're welcome to participate in the RM discussion. Thank you! 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 04:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
I think the article's name then would be too long and it would be difficult to find for the readers, the earlier version ie. the normal version is alright, there is no need to change. Wowlastic10 (talk) 04:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
@Vestrian24Bio: That's definitely not the style I'm proposing and those follow a different pattern for a reason. Those examples you've listed are all events, whereas what we're looking at is league seasons. The naming conventions are different for those. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Question

Hello @Hey man im josh! How can this article: 1991 Ingush referendum be restored? Although made by a now banned user, it was quite useful and notable article backed by multiple RS and I want to the request its restoration. Best regards, WikiEditor123… 21:27, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@WikiEditor1234567123: I've gone ahead and undeleted the page. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! WikiEditor123… 12:20, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

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Wikiproject invitation

Hello, Hey man im josh! We are looking for editors to join WikiProject Women's Premier League (cricket), an collaborative group which aims to support development of Women's Premier League related articles in Wikipedia. We thought you might be interested, and hope that you will join us. We trust you, Hey man im josh/Archive 17, and we know that you have a lot of interest in this area. So why wait? Join fast by signing your name here! Thanks, and happy editing!
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Thank you for the invitation @Vestrian24Bio! Unfortunately, cricket isn't my cup of tea, but I do believe in proper categorization is probably why I'm receiving this! Hey man im josh (talk) 12:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
That's fine, I just sent out invitations to the editors who have contributed to the WPL/IPL articles. That's all. Vestrian24Bio (U, T, A, C, S) 12:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Protection log

Thanks for the help. Are you also going to add that for the current MLB, MLS, NFL, and NHL arena/stadium lists? Roberto221 (talk) 19:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

@Roberto221: I do not intend to at the moment unless issues persist, at which point we can address it. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

"X visa policy" -> "Visa policy of X" creation

Just writing to keep creation of these redirects in mind (a la Turkmenistan visa policy). MSG17 (talk) 13:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for Undeletion of Baltic Chemistry Olympiad Page

Please restore the wikipage from the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Baltic_Chemistry_Olympiad You deleted it almost immediately after creation, but it does take some time to write texts and references. Now the page is ready. Please let me know if it disagrees with some rules so that I can fix them. Olunet (talk) 09:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

@Olunet: When pages are moved, a redirect is left behind pointing to the new location of the page. It's standard policy for us to delete redirects from main space to draft space, that's what I deleted. The article was moved by a user named Bestagon and at no point was any of the content deleted. I see that you've submitted the draft for review, that's good. Someone will review the draft at their earliest convenience, but, I do think you need to add more references to it at a minimum. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Knightfall character

Regarding the retarget of Knightfall (character) per close of WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Knightfall (comics), there was one vote for Delete, yet you went with retarget. There is no character by name Knightfall at the new target, which is one reason I highlighted it in my relist. One option could be to revert the close and relist, or revert the close and have another editor do the relist. If the outcome is No Conensus for Knightfall (character), retargeting to Batman: Knightfall would still be wrong. Just to clarify, my note/comment on the Rcat was not a validation/support for the redirect. Jay 💬 21:22, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Jay, thanks for the feedback, and I think you're right. I've reopened and relisted the discussion. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

User: carlvermeulen artist

Hello josh, can you replace my page which has been removed for some reason. Thank you. Carl.

Carl Vermeulen artist (talk) 06:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Please see my reply to you above at User_talk:Hey_man_im_josh#The page: Carl Vermeulen artist. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

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Test pages

I'm currently working on an update to the rmCloser script; to test my updates I have been using pages in project space, due to restrictions that prevent RM's being opened in user space.

I was hoping you could restore Wikipedia:Move test page 1 until I am done? BilledMammal (talk) 11:41, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Understood, undeleted @BilledMammal. Best of luck, hope the testing goes well. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, it is going well. BilledMammal (talk) 11:47, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

List of works

Hi, Hey man im josh,

Thanks for your work on my page. I've added citations to reliable sources for the 'Works from 1960s - present.' Do you agree all looks OK now, and we can remove the maintenance template (and move the page back to the article space)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_works_by_Joanne_Leonard Dsalerno (talk) 15:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@Dsalerno: I haven't actually touched that page. With that said, the draft is so small I see absolutely no reason to WP:SPLIT from Joanne Leonard. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:29, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
@Hey man im josh: I plan to add many more 'Works' to be added and don't want to clutter the existing article. The 'Draft' is just a start to make sure the formatting is correct. The photographer'w work is prolific. Would you move the page back to the article space? Thanks for your note! Dsalerno (talk) 15:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
@Dsalerno: It's not clutter if it's relevant. If anything, you may be hurting the chances of someone seeing the information by splitting it off into its own list. I strongly recommend waiting until the amount of works on Joanne Leonard becomes cumbersome. In it's current state, the article is fairly short, so I say start there. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
@Hey man im josh: I hear you. Let's see how fast the list grows, and as you suggest, when the the original article gets too long, we can add the separate link to the 'List of works,' as needed. Thank you for your expertise! May your projects go well. Dsalerno (talk) 15:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Thirty Fifth Indian Expedition to Antarctica

Hey, I think this article should be speedily deleted under A1. What do you think? Just need your input before tagging. GrabUp - Talk 15:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@Grabup: Pages that have survived deletion discussions are not typically eligible for speedy deletion, barring a few exceptions. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
True, but the previous AfD had no consensus as no one participated in it. GrabUp - Talk 15:53, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
@Grabup: I understand where you're coming from, but I'm not personally comfortable speedy deleting the page even though there was no participation, I still view it as having survived an AfD. Had it been tagged back in the day instead of sent to AfD then it may have been deleted, but as of now, I think we're cursed to just wait out the AfD. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the input. I voted to speedily delete. Let's see what happens next. GrabUp - Talk 16:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

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"2023–24 Major Clubs Limited Over Tournament" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Promotion of List of Las Vegas Raiders first-round draft picks

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Lahore Tournament

Hello. You recently deleted the above page under G5 because it was created by a banned user. This was rather short-sighted as it was actually a factually accurate article. It might have been prudent to ask the cricket project's opinion on the article before deleting it. Please can you reinstate it. Cheers, AA (talk) 22:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@AssociateAffiliate: WP:G5 deletions are meant to deter blocked individuals from returning and contributing in violation of their block. In situations such as those it's not beneficial, nor standard practice, to notify a WikiProject. It also matters not whether the article is factually accurate, just whether or not there were substantial edits by other users. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
But we're not deterring anything... BJ probably doesn't care, and instead deleting a perfectly viable article is cutting off the project's nose to spite our face. BJ isn't the cricket project, and the article would link nicely to colonial cricket in India and overtime would be edited by other users, as the subject played an important part in pre-independence Pakistani cricket. AA (talk) 17:20, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
@AssociateAffiliate: By your logic we should never G5 anything. Fact of the matter is though that deleting the work a block evader does actually does help to dissuade them.
It looks like you've recreated the article using a cached version (obviously discouraged and encouraging socking), but you've failed to provide attribution. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:43, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Dick Pilling, an England Test cricketer was deleted... I'm not sure who deleted that, as it too was a BJ creation from long ago, but c'mon, a Test cricketer... I think G5 is being applied far too liberally. And the Lahore Tournament has been recreated, because it is a valuable article - it can't forever be in a black hole because a sock of BJ created it. AA (talk) 07:18, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
@AssociateAffiliate: Attribution is still important, as mentioned. It's not an original work by you and it's important that it's called out as such. I cannot stop you from recreating an article, not that I want to, but you NEED to provide attribution. As for G5, frankly it sounds like you want BlackJack to continue to contribute because they do so in the area of cricket, but that's not really a discussion I care to have right now. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:08, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Concern about Autopatrolled denial and further

Hello @Hey man im josh. Hope you are good. You denied my request on 8 March. I admired that decision, but I see that the NPPs are really having too much backlog. I saw that my created pages Patna Shuklla, Lootere (TV series), Ranneeti: Balakot & Beyond, Kill (film) and more are not reviewed by NPP for months. Please review. Twinkle1990 (talk) 15:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

@Twinkle1990: We're working our way through the backlog as best we can, but we encourage reviewers to start from the back of the queue when they can. Someone will review these pages at their earliest convenience. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm denied the autopatrolled right by you, Star Mississippi and Rosguill. Said that I have WP:CIR issue. But my contributions always matching WP:CIR but being ignored by WP:NPP for months. Kindly have a look at my contribution. Just in said ANI issue, I was questioned by tons and I was lost as whom to answer and how to. Hope you could understand such, where stones are being thrown and how to defend self. Still, I'm here, contributing what I am capable of. Twinkle1990 (talk) 15:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry about that...

...it was a misclick. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 20:43, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

It happens. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:12, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Draft:Afshan Hassan

Please do not introduce inappropriate pages, such as Draft:Afshan Hassan, to Wikipedia. Doing so is considered to be vandalism and is prohibited. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Under section G3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, the page has been deleted. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges.

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@Ivanvector: I assume this was a mistaken notification while cleaning up after Zoramid? Hey man im josh (talk) 12:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Ugh, yeah, it's an automatic Twinkle notification. I keep forgetting to turn them off. You are very obviously not vandalizing the 'pedia. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Hahaha cool, thanks @Ivanvector, just wanted to check Hey man im josh (talk) 12:57, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Revision Delete Request

Hi there,

Since it seems like you're pretty active right now, I would like to request content here to be deleted, however I'm not sure if it meets the criteria. Could you check for me? Thx! Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 21:06, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Also this: Paige Spiranac - Wikipedia Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 21:23, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
All good now, User:Ad Orientem took over. Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 21:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Congrats!

I remember this place. Congrats, my friend! John. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks John! Hey man im josh (talk) 12:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome, Josh. Bet I'll see you soon! John Bringingthewood (talk) 21:50, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Promotion of List of Kansas City Chiefs first-round draft picks

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Congrats!

Hey Josh! I just saw you got admin and a bunch of featured articles, congrats! it's a bit late, but I tend to edit in big bursts and then dissapear for a while so I hadn't seen yet. I remember when back when I first started editing, I'd always see you around recent changes patrol and it's really great to see how far you've come!! -- NotCharizard 🗨 14:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Good to hear from you @Notcharizard, I hope you've been well. Believe me, I remember you and about a dozen other editors I used to always be reverting vandalism along side! Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it and those who are willing to share kind words with others unprompted :) Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

HA!

Now that didn't take long at all! CONGRATS, JOSH! All the best, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 20:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Very exciting! Thank you! Hey man im josh (talk) 20:11, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Excitement is good! You got it. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:08, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

List of Green Bay Packers players

I think I am have pretty much wrapped up what I think the List of TEAM players could look like. Thoughts? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: I was looking for any other possibilities but I think you're right, I think you've exhausted them all aside from All-Pros, which run into the issue of selectors. Could perhaps be AP All-Pro list? Not super sure how viable that one is, but PFR has the sourcing for it at least. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, All-Pros and converting the MVP list to a more comprehensive awards list (like List of Chicago Bears award winners) are next on my list. I was speaking more to the overall layout of the Lists of Green Bay Packers players as an index. I thought having a brief lead and then a simple explanation after each list would suffice, and I am actually pretty happy with it. I think applying this to all the players lists would be a great benefit to navigability and readability. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:35, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Ok, before I get to far into this monster, wanted to get a 2nd opinion on layout: Draft:List of Green Bay Packers Associated Press All-Pro selections. What do you think? Anything you see needing improvement? Thoughts on clarifying 1st and 2nd team with a column? For the running total of selections, I planned on just aggregating all selections (1st + 2nd = total). « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
@Gonzo fan2007:
  • Perhaps use "First" and "second" instead of 1st and 2nd, since that's what's normally listed.
  • Just make sure to call out that this specifically refers to Associated Press selections since you'd be leaving out a few other types
  • I support running total including both first and second team selections
  • Has there been any players, like TJ Watt or Tyreek Hill, who were selected to multiple positions in the same year? If so, how are you going to count that? I'd personally say count it once, and say they were selected to x number of all-pro teams or something
That's what I've got off the top of my head. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! All great recommendations. Yeah, I plan on explaining in the lead about the different types and why AP is just being reported. That's a great question, I guess I will cross that bridge if I come to it! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:00, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Draft:List of Green Bay Packers Associated Press All-Pro selections: I'm starting to lean towards splitting the table into two: one for first-team selections and one for second-team selections. PFR reports the number of All-Pros based on first-team selections. As an example, Aaron Rodgers is a 4x All-Pro on PFR, even though he has five total (4 first plus 1 second). We also tend to split them up in infoboxes (again, see Aaron Rodgers). I could have a section for "Selections" with two tables for first and second team selections and then have a table showing most firsts, seconds, and totals. Thoughts? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
@Gonzo fan2007: Hmmm. I'm thinking about how the PFHOF and others would refer to a player as a 5x All-Pro sometimes without specifying whether it's first- or second-team. I think seeing all the players together, in one list, is a better presentation of what someone may be looking for, as in, oh the Packers had 5x All-Pros that year! Vs seeing one table, scrolling down, comparing, and so on. Then you'd also be able to sort by player to see all the times a specific player was selected. I'm not sure we should be dissuaded by PFR listing AP2 in the stats table but only showing an icon at the top for first-team.
With that said, I understand why you're considering the split. You could also have two tables at the end, one for most firs-team All-Pros and one for most overall All-Pros.
But that's just just my opinion. I'll probably follow whatever format you do when I try to catch up with Lions lists lol. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
You convinced. Take a look now: Draft:List of Green Bay Packers Associated Press All-Pro selections. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm very pleased with how its turned out @Gonzo fan2007! I can't wait to rip it off for the eventual Lions list I do to match you! Hey man im josh (talk) 16:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Pretty much done now. Need a few more sources and maybe expand the lead a little bit but generally done. Let me know if anything looks off. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:41, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
@Gonzo fan2007: Even if I forget about it I'll remember when I see and review the FLC nom ;) Hey man im josh (talk) 23:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Template:2019 NHL Entry Draft

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Unblock Maxtrontrimax now

pls Betterthanjsm (talk) 08:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

DYK for List of Detroit Lions Pro Bowl selections

On 28 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article List of Detroit Lions Pro Bowl selections, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Barry Sanders was the first player to play at least ten seasons in the National Football League and be selected to the Pro Bowl in each year? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/List of Detroit Lions Pro Bowl selections. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, List of Detroit Lions Pro Bowl selections), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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About WP:AB/CP:J

Hey man im in josh! Nice to meet you again and I hope you happy but I'm here to request for please remove my name from this list, I really no more use because I mainly editing on Wikipedia from Android phone or tablet, so, I'm unable to use in phone, so, please remove my name from this list and please see this permalink. Happy editing ᗩvírαm7 • [@píng mє] 05:00, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@Aviram7: Done. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:35, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Hey man im josh, Many thanks for removing my name from this list. Happy editing ᗩvírαm7 • [@píng mє] 12:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thanks for all the redirect patrols! Mach61 16:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
@Mach61: Thank you for the work that you do and taking the time to send me this barnstar! I very much appreciate it :) Hey man im josh (talk) 16:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Right expiry

Hi Josh, do you mean to make my page mover right expire on 30th May? I think you meant to make it permeant? Lightoil (talk) 17:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Lightoil, I know exactly why you're asking this question. Don't worry that xtools lists the perm as set to expire on the 30th, this is a known issue when we grant permissions permanently to users who had the permission to set to expire at some point. You'll notice May 30th come and go without a change to your permissions and that expiry entry will then be removed from the right changes log on xtools. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:35, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Okay thanks for letting me know. Lightoil (talk) 17:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
@Lightoil: Not that I expect anything to, based on this being a known issue and I myself wondering the same thing when my new page reviewer permission was granted permanently, but if something does happen c'mon back and I'll make sure it gets fixed. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Okay thanks Lightoil (talk) 17:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Re: Spvg Wesseling-Urfeld moved to draftspace

Hello, how are you? While I understand that this article is lacking more references, isn’t it still acceptable for the article to be considered a stub and still be allowed in mainspace? Kind Regards, MintyFresh201 (talk) 15:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@MintyFresh201: The article, in its current state, only has a single reference to the team's website. This does not show significant coverage of the subject and does not, in its current state, show that the article meets WP:GNG. Articles are typically fine to remain as stubs, provided they meet an existing notability guideline. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the clarification.
Best,
MintyFresh201 (talk) 15:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Indigenous Peoples' Day (United States)

Hi, I saw that Indigenous Peoples' Day (United States) had some pretty substantial changes made to it, including a fair amount of info removed. For example, the "Indigenous Peoples Day observers" section was cut from the article and I know it likely needed some updates, but I think showing where in the US the holiday is actually recognized was useful. Just wondering what happened as the summary seems to mention a merge, but nothing else? – OdinintheNorth (talk) 16:37, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey @OdinintheNorth. I looked at the version from archive.org and I see what you mean. This is odd, I've never seen this happen after a history merge, but I've been able to restore the version that I believe you were used to seeing. I really appreciate you calling this out for me. This particularly instance was rather messy due to a mistake I made, so I'm happy it was caught sooner rather than later. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks again! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:38, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
I believe I understand what happened and how to avoid it in the future. Ah merge tool. Used seldom enough that I still need a bit more practice with it. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Not a big deal, hopefully it wasn't too much work to sort all that out. Thank you for the explanation! – OdinintheNorth (talk) 02:16, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Promotion of List of Cincinnati Bengals first-round draft picks

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Team Templates

I have always disliked the team templates. They just get cluttered and difficult to access. What do you think of this: {{Green Bay Packers/sandbox}}. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: Sorry for not responding sooner. I think your proposed revision is probably better than what's currently used, but I'm not entirely sold on it being the best possible set up. May I suggest moving visual media from the team history to the media section? I'm just not sure what I think the best possibly set up could be, but something can be improved I think. Sorry for the vagueness lol, but I figured a response is better than no response. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:07, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
No worries, good recommendation! I think what I was going for was twofold: (1) better/clearer organization and (2) no more hidden links in the row headers. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Thanks for all the work you do, from telling blocked users how to appeal, to the usual, to the nitty-gritty. Your work is appreciated. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 18:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Ooops?

Did you mean to delete this archive?-- Ponyobons mots 22:09, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

@Ponyo: I did not, so I'm very grateful you caught that! I see what happened. I deleted Donald Trump/Archive 168 and it hadn't occured to me that the talk page was the archive. That's definitely something I'm going to be watching out for in the future when I process similar CSD requests. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Interesting. That's something for me to look out for too! Anyway, no harm no foul.-- Ponyobons mots 22:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Bowl MVP

I saw your last edit on J. J. McCarthy’s page. I didnt want to go off subject on the other WT post about awards, but I agree with you. I think we could do without the bowl mvp‘s. Last I was on the fence regarding New Year’s Six, but the Rose Bowl, while historic has two MVP’s, even the National Championship Game has to be formatted oddly. Adding the fact, its hard to justify including some and not the rest, and we can all probably agree the current bowl season isn’t worth accolades for the most part.

  • National Championship (2014)
  • National Championship Game MVP (2015)

Centurion Seraph (talk) 21:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

@Centurion Seraph: When we discussed including championships in infoboxes, the consensus was to only include the national championships and to leave out conference championships. We're meant to use the format of "BCS national champion" or "CFP national champion" as examples, per WP:NFLINFOBOX. Based on that logic, and applying the same logic we do to NFL highlights, we shouldn't be listing any bowl games from my point of view. After all, we don't list NFC or AFC champions. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
I think its funny that you corrected and directed me in a private conversation. I believe you know I don't format it like “National Championship”, that was a loose example in wanting to talk with you. But I’m also extremely impressed you covered all your bases by stating BCS or CFP (both existing in 2014). You can remove the last four letters from my last post if you want. Centurion Seraph (talk) 17:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
@Centurion Seraph: Nothing about this conversation is private, I actually get a lot of traffic to my talk page. I do not know you enough to know your preference or stance on capitalization issues, but regardless, that's the capitalization that we utilize. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:58, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
If you want to get technical, champion pertains to a person. As I’m not referencing somebody and only defining the championship event and award, champion would not be correct in this instance Centurion Seraph (talk) 18:19, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Oh look!

Another one! Congrats, Josh! Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 20:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks John! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:58, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Never a problem. Just hoping I'm not causing you one with that user box. Not sure what the edit meant. No harm intended. :) John. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:25, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

You missed one

1932 NFL championship game. Dicklyon (talk) 00:20, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

I see those were necessitated by my error here. I fixed it just now. Dicklyon (talk) 00:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

There was actually no 1932 NFL championship game @Dicklyon. I'm going to copy a note from List of Detroit Lions seasons, a list I promoted to featured status; Prior to 1933, the NFL determined their league champions based on win–loss percentage. After a tie for first place in 1932, the NFL arranged an extra regular season game to determine the season's champion. Based on the success of this matchup, George Preston Marshall and George Halas put forth a proposal to determine the league's champion in a championship match at the end of each season. In 1933, the NFL divided teams into two divisions, with the division champions set to meet in the NFL Championship Game. There's references at the article if you're interested in learning more. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:16, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
There's a prev link to 1932 NFL Championship Game, which my template change had turned red, like the others. Now moot. Dicklyon (talk) 15:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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