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Abdulrahman Nafisi

Hello Josh,

I noticed that you've added the "Orphan" template to the article on [[Abdulrahman Nafisi]]. The article currently includes 11 references and a substantial number of links. I've also added more links, so I believe it no longer qualifies as an orphaned article. Additionally, this article is very similar (over 95%) to the corresponding one [1] on the Farsi Wikipedia, which was created over 8 years ago.

I kindly request that you remove the orphan template. If you believe the article still needs more links, could you please clarify how many would be sufficient? Thank you. Erfan2017 Erfan2017 (talk) 04:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

@Erfan2017: (talk page stalker) The template indicates that the article is not internally linked from any other Wikipedia article. There is no connection between external links cited or added to the article and that template, such as references. The template can be removed if the article becomes internally linked from any other Wikipedia article. GrabUp - Talk 08:14, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Hello @Erfan2017, GrabUp is correct. Per Orphan template you're referencing: This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. Please introduce links to this page from related articles; try the Find link tool for suggestions. (July 2024) (note that I didn't add the last two links back to the quote, it's early, and I'm being lazy)
This has nothing to do with your work directly on the page, this is about links TO Abdulrahman Nafisi. See Special:WhatLinksHere/Abdulrahman_Nafisi. In order to not be considered "orphaned", the article must have at least one main space article linking to it. It just means we want something somewhere pointing to the article, but there's nothing currently doing so. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:46, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Thank you very much to Josh and GrabUp for your helpful guidance. As a Wikipedia contributor who doesn't edit frequently, I wasn't fully aware of the importance and types of links. Your explanations have been invaluable. I've now incorporated links to the Abdulrahman Nafisi article in three relevant Wikipedia pages Dezful, Bank Keshavarzi Iran and Hamadan. I hope these changes will remove the "Orphan" status from the article. Erfan2017 (talk) 01:09, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
@Erfan2017: If that's the case, then by all means, go ahead and remove the tag. Hey man im josh (talk) 01:10, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Protagonism

I'm pretty sure you made this edit to be like "hey folks I'm here too, get me a cookie (cough cough) I mean barnstar", but we don't care about that, we genuinely care about articles' content 5.92.73.224 (talk) 09:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@5.92.73.224: I definitely don't want a barnstar from you based on your behaviour and failure to recognize and adopt standard practices lol. If you want to remove it again I suggest making a talk page post, since we'd need to do so for literally every medal table. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:03, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey man im josh, Hello and can you review my request on rollback permission page at this time if you feel comfortable. Thanks रोहितTalk_with_me 14:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @रोहित साव27: Nice to meet you, I see you're anti-vandal fighting work is too good and I also see you're request on Rollback request page but I think please keep patient any sysop are going ahead and review you're request and if you write message on other userpage then no need to use ping template for them. Happy editing --- ᗩvírαm7(@píng mє-tαlk mє) 16:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
@रोहित साव27: Admins who monitor the boards are aware of pending requests. Please be patient and do not reach out to ask for expedited processing unless it's an urgent matter (such as needing mass message sender for an upcoming event). Hey man im josh (talk) 15:06, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Congratulations, Hey man im josh! The list you nominated, 2018 Winter Olympics medal table, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, PresN (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Congrats! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:23, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Thanks @Another Believer! Another couple on the way which can be found on my user page if you're ever interested in providing a review (I see your 46 entries at WP:WBFLN). Sad to see you haven't made a nomination since 2013 though, any particular reason why, or any interest in working at promoting lists again? Hey man im josh (talk) 15:07, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you reviewed

Hi Hey man im josh. Thank you for your work on 2024 Bangladeshi military coup. Another editor, Xoak, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Factual Inaccuracy

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Xoak}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

X (talk) 21:19, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

...what? @Xoak: You should provide more context for this message, consideration I've never once edited the page. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:42, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Oh, I see, I'm silly and didn't read the section title properly (the fact under it doesn't quite correlate, so perhaps the NPP team can revisit that at some point.
@Xoak: I have marked the article as reviewed again. Standard practice is to mark articles at AfD as reviewed. Hey man im josh (talk) 05:29, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

The Olympics?

Hi Josh. Congratulations! Not used to seeing other topics. I see, this isn't going to end soon, lol. Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:12, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey John, yeah, I'm participating in the WP:Wikicup and I'm taking an unconventional route. Most everyone has good articles and featured articles (worth the absolute most points) in this competition and I'm seeing what I can do with only lists. Surprisingly, I've made it to the final 16 and have a pretty good chance at making the finals (of 8). But, to do so with only lists, I decided that, for this round, I had to take advantage of a scoring multiplier that exists in order to try to make the final round. Based on the number of interwiki links, aka, how many different language wikis a version of that article exists on, you get extra points. Olympic medal lists happen to exist on a LOT of Wikis, and I've always wanted to work on them. Given the Olympics are going on, and the threshold of points to advance to the next round being much higher than the previous round (I track it all at User:Hey man im josh/Wikicup stats), there was no better time for it. I actually have two other Olympic lists I've nominated (check out my user page) that are worth a good deal of points. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
All I could say is .. WOW! You just do what you have to do, and if I see something good posted, I'll congratulate you, lol. Good luck and have fun with it. Oh yeah, just wanted to say that you were way more diplomatic than I would have been with that message down there. ;) Best regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 05:33, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Favor to ask

A new editor just joined Editor Retention. I want to institute a practice whereby the editor that proceeded them would visit their talk page and welcome them. Kinda like establishing a tradition. Bring a box of candy...some flowers...or just your wonderful self. Good Idea? Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 13:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@Buster7: It sounds like what you're suggesting is essentially WP:The admin baton? I mean, sending good vibes and encouragement is basically never a negative in my opinion. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:24, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
YES! exactly. Thats why my next job may be a greeter at WalMart! I'm a computer nerd (opposite of GEEK) so it's beyond my capacity but it would be great to create a page like that for New Members. I'm gonna @Isaacl: to get his input. Fingers crossed. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 14:46, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
I started to write a response assuming that the editors had signed up as members of the editor retention WikiProject, but I see now that the link is for the Editor of the Week initiative. I'm not against a welcoming chain, but since this is an active initiative, I'd suggest having periodic threads on the Editor of the Week talk page welcoming new members and inviting them to do required tasks. As always, the most important need is to find new nominations. isaacl (talk) 16:29, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

An edit you should not have reverted on 2024 Summer Olympics medal table

Someone tried to edit the infobox so that the U.S. would be listed before China in regards to the number of gold medals won, as the tie between them is officially broken by the U.S. winning more silver medals, but you reverted that edit, despite previously editing other articles that discussed how the tie-breaking is done. It only goes alphabetically when there isn’t a tie-breaker. No one else seems to be fixing it, so please undo your revert that shouldn’t have happened. 2600:100A:B1C6:5C9A:3C33:1C62:992:B55C (talk) 23:14, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

I stand by the revert. The only aspect being considered for the "most golds" statistic is the number of golds. There's no tie breaker to be considered because there's only one part of the table that's relevant in that content. When there's a tie, as there is for most golds, countries are listed alphabetically by IOC code. Additionally, the info box already includes the NOC (USA) with the highest number of overall medals already. To push for the USA to be listed first would be a bias towards America in this context. I will not be reverting that edit. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
No, the only bias being shown here is your bias *against* the USA. Previous articles with this same situation show the country that won the tie-breaker being listed first when it has the same number of gold as another country. You edited this article — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Winter_Olympics_medal_table — and didn’t mind Norway being listed before Germany there despite Germany being before Norway alphabetically. 2600:100A:B1C6:5C9A:3C33:1C62:992:B55C (talk) 01:44, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Agreed. The IOC website itself https://olympics.com/en/paris-2024/medals lists the USA first using a tiebreaker (silvers), your anti-USA bias is showing. 217.66.157.127 (talk) 07:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
(hey man im josh) isn't wrong. When there's a tie in gold medals - the code is to list alphabetically. You guys are not seeming to understand that and also nobody is even saying that USA didn't come first. But in terms of gold medals won, USA is tied with China and so constantly removing mentions everywhere in all articles that they are tied in gold medals, is just invalid and needs to stop. I made talk threads in those articles addressing those edits and you should discuss and not edit war. Evibeforpoli (talk) 07:43, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing that out to me, that was an inadvertent oversight on my part. It's thankfully now been fixed. For what it's worth, in text I had already listed Germany first, because that's what you do when you're making a list and they're tied in the only relevant qualifier. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Mike Wharton Page

Hi, was just wondering why you have flagged the page Mike Wharton for may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for biographies there are secondary sources on the page. if you think it needed anything else can you please say what. thanks Knowledgework69 (talk) 16:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@Knowledgework69: I believe they are likely to be a local politician that lacks enough significant coverage to meet WP:NPOL. The sources included are secondary, but they're entirely routine coverage that don't signal that the individual is independently notable. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi so, Wharton is the Deputy Mayor of a Region that has a population of ~ 1,571,000 He is also the Leader of one of the 6 borough councils within that region with a population of 128,432. also it is important to understand the UKs emerging quasi-federal structure, in the UK there is not a set standardisation of devolved administrations, in Scotland Wales and NI for example they are lead by a First Minister and local parliament for devolved matters. due to the size of England it is not possible to have a singular devolved English government and local parliament. instead England has what is known as Combined Authorities which are large areas of England, containing a number of towns settlements and local authorities which are lead by a Mayor (legally metro mayor) these mayors and the combined authorities they lead wield powers devolved by the government on a wide number of portfolios such as Crime, Health, Housing, Transport, Tourism, Investment and Localised Trade to name but a few.
WP:NPOL says that "(for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office" the Liverpool City Region would fall into this i believe as although it says "City" this naming was just a compromise due to the lack of wanting to call it the Greater Merseyside Region Combined Authority. it is essentially similar to that of a state in the US all be it a lot smaller with less powers it is never the less a form of central government devolution in the UK therefore its officers (Such as Deputy Mayor and Cabinet Members) I believe are entitled to a page Knowledgework69 (talk) 16:43, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
@Knowledgework69: The population isn't particularly relevant, but I've seen mayors of towns of over a quarter million people get deleted based on a lack of anything other than routine coverage. In this article, it's all typical press release coverage, almost entirely about him getting the role and leaving another. These are kind of as run of the mill as they get. We'd want to look for coverage on the individual, or broader coverage to include that's not just about them taking or leaving a job.
As for WP:NPOL, the Liverpool City Region is not the equivalent of a state/province, that would be the Regions of England. Never the less, WP:NPOL is guidance, and not absolute. I'm not planning to nominate the article for deletion, but, in its current state, it's not displaying enough to show clear notability. I'd just encourage you to add more sources that show WP:SIGCOV of the person. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:56, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
I do get what your saying however I do feel the need to correct you on your comment about the regions of England, basically they have no level of governance in the UK structure and are pretty much solely used for census data and things like the BBC will break up their broadcasting to regional channels etc. in the UK the tiers of government basically go
Local Councils (Wirral Council, Westminster City Council Salford City Council Etc)
In England the next highest tier is Combined Authorities Chaired by Metro Mayors (Greater Manchester CA, Greater London Authority, North East CA, Liverpool City Region CA, West Yorkshire CA etc. In Scotland Wales and NI it is the Devolved Administrations
Then Above this it is the central government
The Combined Authority Mayors will sit on the Council of the Nations and Regions along with the First Ministers of Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland, and is chaired by the Prime Minister. while the UK System is messy and imperfect Combined Authority Metro Mayors despite the sounding of their name are not "Local City Mayors for example, as they do exist in the UK see Mayor of Salford" rather they are more similar Governors in the United States, not saying its like for like but they aren't like for like to Local Mayors either. Knowledgework69 (talk) 17:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
@Knowledgework69: I'll be honest, the subdivisions don't really matter to me in this case. The article needs improved references because it's simply not obvious why this person is notable, given that all the references are just about him starting or leaving a position. I have no intention of nominating the page for deletion, so I recommend you just work on improving the references. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:48, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Yeah no worries, some more have been added today, I did just want to emphasise that the way the UK is split up I think it would count under WP:NPOL for being the equivalent of a state or provincial office. I do agree that the page needs improving. Thanks anyway for highlighting the need for more sources. Knowledgework69 (talk) 17:59, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks

Project Editor Retention

This editor was willing to lend a helping hand!
Thanks for all you do to acknowledge others at the Editor of the Week Awards

Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 11:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Awww this means so much coming from you @Buster7! Thank you so much!! I need to write out the statements for the noms I have so we can get that backlog bigger! I'll continue to make noms for as long as I can and encourage others to make nominations as well, as I often do on the community Discord. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Go for it! The more the merrier! If you use stats like how many "this" or how many "that", if you could just visit the Accepted page right before awarding happens so I don't forget to update the figures. Thanks. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 03:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Query

Hello @Hey man im josh, I've seen that WP:ECR is applied to someone contentious topics. I was wondering how exactly does it work? Do you have to ask an admin to add a template to the talk page or something else like that? How do I request an admin for that on a talk page on a contentious topic? PadFoot (talk) 01:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey @PadFoot2008. I don't actively deal with contentious topics, but, my understanding is that WP:RPP/I would be the best place to make such requests. I believe in Twinkle's menu for requesting page protection you'd select the "Arbitration enforcement (ECP)" option in the drop down menu. Then throw a quick explanation explaining which topic applies in that situation and an admin will process the request if they agree. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:33, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Flemmish explained about it to me on the main article. He said that ECR doesn't to IPA. I was actually talking about a talk page above. An IP sockfarm was disrupting an RM. I've filed an SPI now. PadFoot (talk) 16:46, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Vice-Chancellors categories

Hi Hey man im josh. I've noticed that you have been nominating multiple category trees per MOS:JOBTITLES. A large set that I have had on my todo list for quite a while are those with Vice-Chancellors in the name, see this list. As I don't use tools like Twinkle I've put off nominating them manually. But perhaps they would be something you could get to? To complicate things some also have incorrect reference to the university, e.g. Category:Vice-Chancellors of University of Johannesburg should have a 'the'. Anyway, if you do nominate them thank you in advance! Tassedethe (talk) 16:01, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Tassedethe. Downcasing is super easy and low risk for me when doing these batches, but you're right, it does complicate things to have "the" in it. Just to be 100% clear, is every category meant to have be prefixed with "Vice-chancellors of the ..."? Also, not that it probably matters if you don't have Twinke, but I use User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massCFDS for these batch nominations. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:24, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
I think I see where it should differentiate (based on Category:Canadian university and college chancellors:
  • Vice-chancellors of the University of Johannesburg
  • Vice-chancellors of Brock University
So, if I understand correctly, we have a "the" before "University" in these types (for the names of universities anyways). Hey man im josh (talk) 16:28, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Yep I think that's right. Unfortunately it's a little more complicated than that. I think if it's "University of Foo" then it is "the University of Foo" as you say. "Foo University" doesn't have a 'the'. But also "Bar University of Foo" is also "the Bar University of Foo". So for instance "Category:Vice-Chancellors of Federal University of Agriculture, Abeokuta" should have a 'the'. And as I'm staring at the list there are some errors the other way, e.g. Category:Vice-Chancellors of the King Edward Medical University should not include the 'the'! Tassedethe (talk) 16:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Hey @Tassedethe, I got most of them done, the obvious slam dunks, but I have some tentative lists I'd like you to look at before I move forward with the rest.
List 1: Add "the" to make it "Vice-chancellors of the..."
List 2: Remove "the"
List 3: Just downcase to "Vice-chancellors"
If it helps, you're more than welcome to edit my comment to place the categories where they belong in this list. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:28, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi Hey man im josh, thanks for all your work so far. I couldn't believe how quickly you got that done, I need to check out that script you mentioned. Thanks for these new lists, after seeing them all listed I think my "advice" was at least in part incorrect. Of list 1 I think only these ones need 'the' adding:
List 2 looks correct. From list 3 I think these one need 'the' removing:
But honestly my head is stating to hurt. :) I'm sure other people will weigh in if there are mistakes. Best, Tassedethe (talk) 17:54, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
@Tassedethe: I think your suggestions make sense, but I feel you! It definitely does my head in after too much time on this stuff lol. You should have just received the last ping for the remainder of the nominations. Fair warning, I do a lot of Excel screwery, so while the script is incredibly useful, it might be less so than it looks like from the outside when looking at just my speed :P Hey man im josh (talk) 18:00, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

AA question

Hi Josh. Just wondering. T. J. Watt and Nick Leckey were both 'SI' and 'ESPN' first-team All-Americans. Watt was also AP second-team. Does that mean he loses 'first-team' distinction for the infobox? Not sure why these distinctions are going all AP at times. Not just in this situation. This is when I'm bored, lol. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:21, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

@Bringingthewood: I actually don't know the standard selectors for college ball, I'm sorry. With the NFL wikiproject, we do take the highest of the selections for the infobox. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
That kind of sounds like what I wanted to do months ago .. amend to first-team. The AP seems to be the standard, that and a token gets you on the subway. It's like All-Pro, seems like when someone says AP only .. it gets reverted. I can change it and argue with someone later on, I don't mind. It does show those selectors as first-team in the infobox link and in his article. Just wanted to see if you had a firm stand regarding this mess. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:41, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
@Bringingthewood: Rule of thumb, if the College Football Hall of Fame recognizes the selector, that's probably the threshold. From what I understand that's what we go with.
I do support AP as the most credible selector, as does the NFL for ~14 or so years now? I say that because ever since the NFL Honors started they've had AP selections as the person who wins whatever award. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:00, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Okay then, maybe it's not the higher selector. When AP gives a second .. you lose the first in the infobox. That means if PFWA gave first-team All-Pro and AP the second team, it's wrong for the box to show both? AP should be the consensus. I'm not touching these in the future, safer that way, lol. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
@Bringingthewood: I tried to go that route at one point, I'll have to find the discussion... Anyways, at WT:NFL there was a discussion about it (there had apparently been several before that as well) and the consensus was basically Hall of Fame accolades mattered most. I was also told that AP may not have been the most prestigious selector for the entire life of the NFL, after all, they selected the teams themselves at one point. So do we then leave or the selections of the NFL themselves in favour of the AP? No, that'd be silly, in the end there's several recognized selectors. I believe it was UPI I was told that was more prestigious at one point.. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:16, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
I hear you and I get it. I probably just still despise the AP for the DPOY award last year and Pro Football Focus can also scratch my ***! Screw the stats, it's who gets to the quarterback the quickest and doesn't sack him!!! @@ Well, I'll leave you alone now, just looking to cut corners I guess. Enjoy the rest of your week. I appreciate your feedback. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 14 August 2024

1996 Summer Olympics medal table potential FLC

Hi there,

I was wondering if you could help me get the medal table for the 1996 Summer Olympics to featured list status? I did start a little bit on improving the list by partially rewriting the lead paragraphs and adding a few more pictures of gold medal winners, but can you help also add more to the lead paragraphs and help me research which countries won their first gold and first overall Olympic medals? You can co-nominate the list with me when the list is ready. Birdienest81talk 23:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure @Birdienest81. Have the five recent medal tables got you interested in them again :P? I was actually going to reach out to you at some point because that list is the next one in the streak of articles (User:Hey man im josh/Progress#Olympics). I can take it the rest of the way if you'd like and put it in my queue to nominate :) Hey man im josh (talk) 00:07, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
That would be of great help, @Hey man im josh! Well, yes, I am a fan of the Olympics with the 1984 and 2012 Summer ones being my favorite (hence why I saved the 1984 Summer one from demotion and promoted the 2012 Summer one to featured list). You can tell that I'm a Rams/Dodgers/Lakers, Pokemon (particularly Squirtle) and Oscars fan based on my edits.
Also can we add the 1988 and 1992 Summer tables to the queque? Although be warned, I’m job searching so my time might be hampered.Birdienest81talk 00:28, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
@Birdienest81: Sure, I don't see why 1992 then 1988 couldn't be the next ones. I'm assuming you're talking about the Summer tables, especially since they're next sequentially, and because the Winter versions of those tables are already promoted. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Irrelevant entry

Olympique Lyonnais (Superleague Formula team) this entry for deletion has nothing to do with Greek topics. Can you remove it? It is a French team. D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:14, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey @D.S. Lioness. Good catch, definitely a mistake on my part. I've reverted it and should have included it for France and not Greece. In the future, you're more than welcome to revert obvious mistakes like this or like to address them in a more timely fashion. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:43, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:2025 Pro Bowl Games

Hello, Hey man im josh. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "2025 Pro Bowl Games".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 03:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Josh,
This was a redirect you created that an now-blocked IP editor created an article on top of. But, as you know, Twinkle alerts the editor who made the first edit which was you. Liz Read! Talk! 04:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Never a problem @Liz! I know that's how it goes sometimes considering just how many redirects I've made :) Hey man im josh (talk) 14:15, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

From / of

I think that this is the oldest discussion moving from "of" to "from". The occupations mentioned in the discussion were e.g. painters and historians for whom "of" means something completely different. After this discussion many others have followed. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Marcocapelle, thanks for the link. It's not a particularly strong consensus, and I do have some reservations, but not enough to push back on it or anything. You mentioned that it was the oldest, have there been a couple more since then by any chance? I have a spreadsheet I keep some outcomes in to use as reference, and to provide to others in regards to conventions for naming, and I'd feel better if I could point to one or two more as well when spreading that information to others. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:12, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
  • There have been many more, but it is difficult to find them without a spreadsheet already in place. I like it a lot that you are setting that up. The way I found this discussion is because Ottoman Empire and Russian Empire are the two most obvious suspects for me. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:19, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
    @Marcocapelle: Isn't there a categories WikiProject? It may be a decent idea to set up a page with common outcomes / outcomes that set the basis for why a category naming scheme goes the way it does. On the other hand, if it stays in user space, it can be better curated to not included poorly attended discussions. Hm hm hmmm... Or I just keep my ken spreadsheet and do what I can lol.
    Either way, I spend enough time at CFDS that I need to start making better notes about these discussions, like I have with some at RfD. I'll do some digging on Monday if I get time to better flush out my list of discussions for that one. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Congratulations, Hey man im josh! The list you nominated, 1964 Summer Olympics medal table, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Congrats!

Congrats, my gold medal friend, on yet another great job! See you soon! John. Bringingthewood (talk) 03:59, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks John! Hey man im josh (talk) 12:27, 20 August 2024 (UTC)