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Love Shot

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@SafariScribe As you're the one who closed and moved Love Shot please also swap Love Shot (Exo song) and Love Shot (disambiguation). 98๐šƒ๐™ธ๐™ถ๐™ด๐š๐™ธ๐š„๐š‚ [๐šƒ๐™ฐ๐™ป๐™บ] 13:46, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SafariScribe Why did you redirected the former article? 98๐šƒ๐™ธ๐™ถ๐™ด๐š๐™ธ๐š„๐š‚ [๐šƒ๐™ฐ๐™ป๐™บ] 13:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The consensus was to never to have any disambiguation page. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What did you want to do?

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I think you introduced redlinks here. What were you trying to do? Reading Beans 07:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was just realizing this now, and I couldn't figure out what tool must have capitalised some words. However, I disagree with Dl2000's assessment, and have given up working there. I see many background sources to help the article per the discussion on the talk page of WikiProject Nigeria, but no! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:54, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review of updated Draft:Orangutan Jungle School

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Hi SafariScribe,

You rejected my draft Draft:Orangutan Jungle School on the basis of the lack of secondary coverage and reliable sources so I've included a new section with newspaper reviews, conservation research that discusses the BOS Foundation and the Jungle School, and fundraising and wildlife nonprofit support the show has received.

Unfortunately, finding more coverage beyond news articles has proven a bit difficult because while images and videos of Orangutan Jungle School is very popular online, especially among orangutan fans, a lot of people don't know the source of the material and just share the memes without knowing much about the series.

Let me know what you think about the draft now and if you have any other suggestions. This is my first article I'm creating so I'm a bit new to the process - thanks so much for all your help!ย :) Corgipup13 (talk) 00:45, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Corgipup13, thank you for whatsoever thing you're doing to improve the draft, however it still doesn't meet the criteria for a film. You've jumped and resubmitted, right? It's fine and I will allow another reviewer to look at it. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:57, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also know that Wikipedia works with the amount of sources (WP:42), and how the draft is significantly covered in those sources (WP:SIGCOV). Additionally beware of WP: LOTSOFSOURCES. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 20:58:40, 1 October 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Kavanihelper

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Hello Safari, I am a young researcher who loves to read books and know more about Indian football. As we all know Wikipedia is a hub for knowledge so I was attracted here. So as a young and inexperienced editor, I am requesting you help me guide and publish the page online.

As informed earlier, Mohun Bagan is an Indian club with a rich history. They have played a significant role in Asian competitions for Indian football but there is no such page for Mohun Bagan's performance in Asia. Another Indian club, their rival has one with the same topic but Mohun Bagan has none. It would be good for new fans if they get to know about Mohun Bagan and East Bengal's performance in Asia. East Bengal's performance in Asia has already been added to wikipedia. They did a wonderful job by doing it. I have spent months on this topic. The details mentioned here is throughly collected through extensive research. I am also planning to do for other clubs as a neutral Indian football fan. This is my first project and I would be happy if my research data is available in Internet. As per wikipedia rules, every details has references to prove its authenticity. If you have any question,feel free to ask? I an ready to answer all questions as I am confident with my research and I believe the data should be available for Indian football fans


I will be highly oblized if you kindly go through the page in my sandbox. It took months of hardwork and extensive research. Regards - Kavani Helper Kavanihelper (talk) 20:58, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will check it again, but only when I am free. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:31, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pls do! You rejected the review citing the reason of what is the need of the page. Do inform me, it took months of hardwork. Kavanihelper (talk) 10:06, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your Assistance

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Hello @SafariScribe,

I hope you're doing well. I apologize for bothering you, but I wanted to bring to your attention an issue with one of my drafts. It was placed under review for approximately 12 hours, after which the reviewer seemed to have forgotten to either accept or decline it. As a result, another editor had to remove the "awaiting review" template. Draft:Royalty Hightower

At your convenience, could you please take a look at my draft for review? Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you. Afro ๐Ÿ“ขTalk! 10:48, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciation ๐Ÿ™‚

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@SafariScribe

Thank you for your recent review of my previous post. I truly appreciate your efforts and the great work you are doing on Wikipedia.

I have some familiarity with reliable sources on Wikipedia, and recently, I have been writing about actors and movies. I am currently working on a Yhemolee and would appreciate your help in verifying whether this [1] is reliable and suitable for Wikipedia. I discovered the subject through a movie I watched on Amazon Prime and later came across the same name on MTV Base. I kind of did my research and found out that he is a notable figure in your country.

I would also like to confirm whether it is against Wikipediaโ€™s guidelines to request assistance on a draft or source.

Thank you again for your time and support! Afro ๐Ÿ“ขTalk! 17:44, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please review my draft, SafariScribe!ย :)

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In my previous draft in a new show by GMA Network, you declined it. This time, I made a draft with sources from different reliable websites. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mga_Batang_Riles_(Philippine_TV_series).

Thank you. Zanbarg (talk) 12:49, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Civility Barnstar
Very good user with rejecting and accepting articles submitted via the Article Wizard. WikiPhil012 (talk) 21:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Song charts

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So, I wanted to talk about charts. The first song article I made, Tshwala Bam, I added a charts section to it. Am I supposed to update that every day? What do I do if the track leaves the charts? Also, I just published a new draft of Young Jonn's debut album Jiggy Forever; please update it as soon as you can. Thank you! OsigbemheEJB (talk) 02:19, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can update it, however, I'd think that charts are published once (I mean the link). Another link is provided for a new update. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Hi there, thanks for your review on my article. Please review my response [2]

AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 11:58, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have responded on your talk page. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Safari Scribe, I've resubmitted the article. Please, provide your feedback. AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 07:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Have you read the article?AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 05:30, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AbdulRahim2002, maybe I haven't, but another reviewer would sooner. I'm sorry for keeping you waiting, however, you can keep improving the draft until it gets reviewed. Take care! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @SafariScribe, I see that you removed bulk of the article in a recent edit [3]. Can you please remove in multiple small edits, with description so i can see what is being removed and why. It would be easier for me to correct errors. AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 21:12, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wrote a good summary in each edit. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:23, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've readded some information important for technical readers. I refered Greg_Kroah-Hartman.
AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 18:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of administrators without tools

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Please review my draft, SafariScribe!

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@SafariScribe, you had previously reviewed and approved a draft article on The Struggle Against Fascism in Germany which was ultimately approved. I would welcome and appreciate a similar review on this draft: Draft:Trotsky's military writings - Wikipedia

Thanks. WikiUser4020 (talk) 13:28, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SafariScribe Don't worry, another editor has had the time to review the draft at this stage. WikiUser4020 (talk) 15:45, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Dr Nighat Arif

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Hello, SafariScribe. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Dr Nighat Arif".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. โœ—plicit 23:33, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This week's article for improvement (week 41, 2024)

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Navy

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September 2024 NPP backlog drive โ€“ Points award

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Special Edition New Page Patroller's Barnstar

This award is given in recognition to SafariScribe for accumulating at least 200 points during the September 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 19,000+ articles and 35,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 26,884.6 points) completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 2024 NPP backlog drive โ€“ Streak award

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Geneva mechanism Award

This award is given in recognition to SafariScribe for accumulating at least 25 points during each week of the September 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 19,000+ articles and 35,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 26,884.6 points) during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Joseon King (17:28, 7 October 2024)

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Hi, nice to meet you. I joined a couple of days ago and translated part of the article "River source" from English to Urdu. However, yesterday after spending hours translating the next section "definition", when I reached the last paragraph, the text box to translate doesn't appear anymore and there is nothing I can do. I tried opening in another browser, but it still gave me the same error of blank text box where I can't input anything. After trying different methods, I realised the issue is just with the individual paragraph. The rest of the paragraphs are allowing me to translate as normal. It might be something wrong with the code. Would you know where I could raise this? Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚ --Joseon King (talk) 17:28, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to meet you too. Welcome to Wikipedia. To address your question, you may ask or copy above to the WP:TEAHOUSE. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Genre sourcing

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Hello. So recently I received a message from Ss112 telling me to source my genres. So I've been doing that on my recent articles, but on my most recent one at the moment, King of Love, the source on the genres were removed. What should I do for future articles: source the genres, or leave them? Thank you. OsigbemheEJB (talk) 03:48, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It would take me time to explain but I would in the afternoon; I am going to morning mass. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 03:50, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand. Cheers! OsigbemheEJB (talk) 04:56, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BecomingX

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Hi - thanks so much for your effort in reviewing my draft! I've made a number of changes and increased the external references - hopefully that works now. Appreciate the effort (great job that you do!). Cheers. Projectoverland (talk) 08:42, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. May I ask if you could re-review this draft โ€“ Draft:Maka (TV series). I've made several changes, deleted all the first party references and added several third party references. Hotwiki (talk) 05:21, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kate Scott RM cleanup

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As part of your close at Talk:Kate Abdo#Requested move 29 September 2024, it seems that Kate Scott (sportscaster) is also ambiguous, and should:

Will you be able to perform these? Thanks.โ€”Bagumba (talk) 08:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ย Done. Thanks! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:33, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Chesky request

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Hi SafariScribe, a couple of weeks ago you responded to a request I made of the Brian Chesky article. I had some additional suggestions for refining the change you made and was wondering if you had any additional thoughts on what I'd suggested. Cheers 136.30.0.43 (talk) 23:26, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 23:16:02, 11 October 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Dxbender

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Hello SafariScribe,

Iโ€™m rather confused by this article being rejected for not having reliable sources.

So, Forbes, INC, Investorโ€™s Business Daily, and probably 50 podcasts (not all listed), a patent, a recent book published by Wiley (a publisher worth over $3B, not referenced, but easily verified on Amazon), etc., isnโ€™t considered significant and reliable?

Please help me understand this further and how this can be remedied.

Is there a particular statement that does not have a reference requiring further verification?

Your help is appreciated.

Dxbender (talk) 23:16, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Listen Notes, Apple Podcast, YouTube, e.t.c are all unreliable. I tagged some of the draft's content with {{citation needed}} , indicating that sources are needed there. Looking at your draft, I don't see any significant coverage. Also, I gave you a guide to readโ€”WP:42โ€”after declining the draft. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 03:59, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Tauseef raza noon (11:26, 13 October 2024)

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How i can write article --Tauseef raza noon (talk) 11:26, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Tauseef raza noon, and welcome to Wikipedia. You may start with HELP:YFA. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:53, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article about Kiarash Mosayebi

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Dear SafariScribe,

You just declined the article about the photographer Kiarash Mosayebi. The reasons given are: "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sourcesโ€, and: โ€œThis submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia articleโ€.

Please explain why this should be so, specifically: How many external references would normally appear in a Wiki article about similar artists? Why do the sources quoted here not qualify as โ€œsignificant coverageโ€?

Looking forward to a quick resolution of this issue.

Thank you and kind regards

Uli Eberhardt Ulrich Eberhardt (talk) 13:25, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Chilai Howard

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Hi there SafariScribe,

Hope you are all well, It has been a while since I could re-edit some items that you mentioned in the "decline" message, having spoken to multiple users at the WIKI community, I have amended a few points and added a few art critic articles for this draft, which could be found here at the Draft history https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Chilai_Howard&action=history . I am hoping these could erase some (if not all) of the concerns, having spoken with multiple HK wiki editors, I shared my views on how hard to find past refs in Hong kong, as the largest news and cultural outlets in Hong Kong have been closed down due to the newly established national security laws in Hong Kong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%932020_Hong_Kong_protests) in which most of the artists in Hong Kong have the most cover from but they gave me some suggestions and I tried my best, added additional REFs (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (15) (29) for reliable sources on art critic reviews (also deleted all showcase of his works from youtube and instagram). I have deleted words like award-winning, his websites, to fit into the tone and manner of WIKI. I hope this is good enough from your perspective and thank you so much for reviewing when you have time. Any suggestions/advices will be great, I will try to re-edit as soon as possible. Thank you. Hongkongart (talk) 13:36, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would give suggestions when I have them. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 03:27, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thank you sir!! thanks so much! Hongkongart (talk) 09:16, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear SafariScribe,

Kindly help me with this page. Her Highness is a notable person in the royal family of UAE and the wife of the deputy ruler of UAE. Her contributions to the art and culture field deserve a space for her in the wikipedia.

Please help me to publish the page for her.

Thanks & regards

Tanura

Khawlafoundation (talk) 08:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: User is blocked. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:57, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You declined this draft due to lack of biographical notability. However, there was also an identical page in article space, by the same author. I reverted your decline, not because I disagree with it, but in order to note that there was already an article. I have redirected the draft to the article, and will look at the article later today to assess whether the subject is notable, and, if not, to nominate it for deletion. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated the article for deletion. You were right in declining it. If there is also an article that is identical to a draft, it is helpful to check whether the article should be nominated for deletion. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of David Michael Moses for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article David Michael Moses is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Michael Moses until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

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SafariScribe I just added the sources about Not Quite Narwhal 141.155.162.213 (talk) 03:29, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Draft

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Hi @SafariScribe You some time ago rejected my draft of Draft:Kingdom of Mewar - Delhi Sultanate Conflict (1326 to 1518) by reasoning that I was involved in Sockpuppetry. Now, when that spi

has been closed and I am not founded guilty. Hence, I think you should visit my draft again Rawn3012 (talk) 13:03, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi dear, please resubmit the draft. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:29, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @SafariScribe I had re-submitted the Draft. Rawn3012 (talk) 01:14, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The decline notice says to ping you, so here I am. Please check the sources very carefully on this one, and check for any other articles that this might be a POV fork or coatrack of, since we have a lot of sockfarms active in this area that have been blocked for various problems with misrepresenting sources, copyvio, and pov-pushing. I have to say I'm very suspicious of anything that includes a list of battles that were all won by the same side. -- asilvering (talk) 01:22, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I missed the message two steps up and should have posted this there. My point stands, however - especially given the timeframe. Nearly 200 years, but only a handful of battles, and none that were won by the Deli Sultanate? I'm skeptical. -- asilvering (talk) 01:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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October thanks

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story ยท music ยท places

Thank you for improving articles on October! - My story today is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speed Darlington

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Hello Safari, I will insist you recheck on this draft Draft:Speed Darlington. The dude may not be meeting for music criteria, but he is meeting the WP:GNG as per [4] and others. Your thoughts are welcomed anyways. 7G๐Ÿ (๐Ÿช“) 15:07, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will recheck. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 13:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please use your page mover rights to move the draft to mainspace without removing the prior history? Tavantius (talk) 12:44, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ย Done. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 13:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Hi there, thanks for your review on my article. Please review my response [5]

AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 11:58, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have responded on your talk page. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Safari Scribe, I've resubmitted the article. Please, provide your feedback. AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 07:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Have you read the article?AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 05:30, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AbdulRahim2002, maybe I haven't, but another reviewer would sooner. I'm sorry for keeping you waiting, however, you can keep improving the draft until it gets reviewed. Take care! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @SafariScribe, I see that you removed bulk of the article in a recent edit [6]. Can you please remove in multiple small edits, with description so i can see what is being removed and why. It would be easier for me to correct errors. AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 21:12, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wrote a good summary in each edit. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:23, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is clear that you never understood the article, and rejected it. When you don't have the necessary background to judge her works, why did you reject the article. Looking at your contributions, it appears your only job is to reject articles. It's unlikely that you even read my article in the first place. Looks like you're running some sort of rejection mafia.
And also, you reject before even letting the submitter defend their position, like some sort of instant justice lol. Looks like your only job is to parrot notability cries that you yourself don't understand.
First reject articles, and when people stop asking then your bot cleans up this page removing the discussions. Very nice! AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 21:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SafariScribe looks like your first contribution is from 15 Jan, and in 9 months you've became God of Wikipedia. You can reject any article you like, that's cool. AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 21:38, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from WPF2024 (17:13, 23 October 2024)

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Hello Safari Scribe! Thank you for your willingness to help!

I've just spent some time reviewing the resources on conflict of interest and terms of use, but I'd love to double check I have everything straight since I already started editing before understanding the rules!

I'm a grad student working as the comms assistant for a research program affiliated with my school. I'd like to update the wiki pages for the program and our director, because the information is a bit out of date.

I believe I can do this if I disclose on my editing page that I work for the program and I can ask an independent editor to review the piece for bias before I publish. Is there anything else I should know or do? Thank you! --WPF2024 (talk) 17:14, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great. You can read Wikipedia:COIEDIT also. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 20:28:01, 14 October 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by FranceRivet

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Hello SafariScribe,

On August 1st, you declined the article proposed for Draft:Samuel Metcalfe, an Inuk from Nunatsiavut, Canada, on the basis that you considered the sources to be unreliable and that we did not prove that Sam was worth having his own page on Wikipedia. I must admit that your refusal was not only disappointing, it was received as an insult. Weโ€™ve let the dust settle for a couple of months and have decided that time has now come to engage into discussions on how the article can be improved. Based on your Wikipedia profile, we understand that you are located in Nigeria and, most likely, have very little or no knowledge of the realities of Canadaโ€™s First Peoples, including the Labrador Inuit, Samโ€™s group of origin. When the time comes, Iโ€™ll give you more background information but, for now, letโ€™s clarify your issue with the reliability of the sources.

Of the 34 sources listed in the article,

  • 13 are articles published in respected magazines such as Inuktitut Magazine (the official publication of Canadaโ€™s National Inuit organization which has been published for over 60 years), Etudes/Inuit/Studies (one of the most important scholar publications on everything Inuit published by Universitรฉ Laval in Quรฉbec City), Atuaqnik (a newspaper published by the Inuit community of Northern Quebec, now called Nunavik), Circuit (the magazine published by the Order of translators, terminologists and interpreters of the province of Quebec), Kinatuinamut Ilingajuk (a Labrador periodical published in Nain by the Labrador Inuit Association), and Polar Record (A Journal of Arctic and Antarctic Research published in Copenhagen).
  • 6 are articles published in newspapers such as The Ottawa Citizen (Canadaโ€™s Capital daily newspaper) and The Telegram (the daily newspaper of the city of St. Johnโ€™s, the capital of the province of Newfoundland-and-Labrador).
  • 1 is from a book published by the Universitรฉ du Quรฉbec ร  Montrรฉal.
  • 1 is from a thesis from Memorial University in St. Johnโ€™s, Newfoundland-and-Labrador.
  • 1 is from a publication by the Nunatsiavut Government.
  • 1 is from a census record
  • 5 are from the Labrador Institute Archive Finding Aid.
  • 6 are from letters, certificates and id cards issued by third parties and are held in Samโ€™s personal archives.

Correct me if Iโ€™m wrong but I donโ€™t understand how the sources referencing magazines, newspapers, books, theses, census records or governmental publications can be seen as unreliable. Am I right that your issue is with the materials we have included that come from Samโ€™s personal archives? These letters, certificates and id cards were issued by external/independent organizations, but if I understand correctly, the fact that they do not correspond to material published in a publicly available source makes them unsuitable for Wikipedia. By any chance, if we were to upload photos of some of these certificates/id cards would the references now be accepted since the visual proof is provided?

For the references from the Labrador Institute Archive Finding Aid, 4 of the 5 references refer to TV or radio programs produced by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (Canadaโ€™s national radio and TV broadcaster) or the OkalaKatiget Society (a non-profit society dedicated to preserving and promoting the language and culture of the Inuit within Nunatsiavut through radio and television programming). These are therefore productions that were once publicly broadcast and copies of the programs are now held at the archives. Why wouldnโ€™t they be suitable?

The remaining reference taken from the Labrador Institute Archive Finding Aid is a statement that Sam translated a book from Inuttitut to English. The reference is not a published document, but the book that Sam translated is. If this reference is not suitable, I presume that we have to get a copy of the published book and see if Samโ€™s name is mentioned as being the translator. That would become the new reference. Is this correct?

I think you have enough questions for now. We look forward to hearing back from you. Once we receive your answers, weโ€™ll proceed with making the first set of changes to the article. We can tackle the notability issue afterwards. Thank you for your time and help. FranceRivet (talk) 20:28, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FranceRivet, I'm so sorry that you and your group received the decline as an insult. However, it does but not necessarily important that someone must be knowledgeable about a subject before dealing with its notability. Wikipedia has already provided policies and guidelines, and those we use to judge a draft. While I wouldn't go into giving you my source analysis, I also received this your message as disappointed as, and since you have a group, maybe I should tell you what to do next: disclose your relationship with what you've written e.g are you related to the person, are you the person even? The rule is at WP:COI. Also, don't insult others irrespective of their background as it would inflict WP:CIVILITY. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 03:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SafariScribe,
Thank you for taking the time to reply. My intentions were never to blame or insult anyone. I wanted to express how the refusal was received at this end. What Iโ€™m seeing is that Wikipediaโ€™s process to decline an article lacks sensitivity. Correct me if Iโ€™m wrong, but the reviewer simply selects the reason(s) for declining and an automated message gets sent. At the other end, itโ€™s a real person who receives it. Someone whoโ€™s worked hard and with good intentions, for weeks, if not months. If reviewers could at least write a sentence or two to establish a real contact with the submitter, to provide some personal insight on their analysis, the refusal would most likely not be received as a slap in the face.
Now, to answer your question, I am not related to Sam Metcalfe. For over 13 years, I have been doing historical research about Labrador Inuit. I am the one who found the remains of Abraham Ulrikab, a Labrador Inuk who was exhibited in Europeโ€™s human zoos in the 19th century, and I initiated the research which led to a commemorative plaque being installed for Lance Corporal John Shiwak, a WWI Inuk sniper killed in France. I have been making sure that the Wikipedia pages of these two men are accurate. I have also written articles related to the Labrador Inuit for the Canadian Encyclopedia. Some of these articles are being used as references for Wikipedia pages. I recently updated one of the Wikipedia pages to provide the actual sources rather than seeing my text in the Canadian Encyclopedia being quoted as the source. I am an independent and volunteer researcher who takes it at heart to help the Labrador Inuit especially when historical research needs to be done in French language sources. So, when Samโ€™s widow told me the story of her late husband, I suggested that an article about him would be appropriate for Wikipedia. We worked for a few months to gather documentation. The Inuit culture being based on oral history, they donโ€™t have centuries of published material. FYI, there are a little over 2000 people living in what is known today as Nunatsiavut. The 5 communities are isolated with no road connection between them, no hospitals, no daily newspaper, no colleges or universities and decades of trauma caused by the way they were treated by non-Inuit. Since the 18th century, the Labrador Inuit have been dominated by Moravian missionaries and then, by the Newfoundland and Canadian governments who created the Indian Residential School system ย โ€œto isolate Indigenous children from the influence of their own culture and religion in order to assimilate them into the dominant Euro-Canadian culture.โ€ Sam was a survivor of this system. He was one of a handful of Labrador Inuit who were the very first generation to fight for the right to regain their culture and work towards self-determination. Their work led to the Nunatsiavut Government being created in 2005 only 20 years ago! Sam may not have made the front page of major Southern newspapers, but he worked hard to better the life of his people and of future generations of Labrador Inuit. He was heavily involved in developing the very first dictionary for the Labrador dialect of Inuktitut. The language had almost disappeared in Nunatsiavut. Samโ€™s efforts contributed to the enthusiasm we see today in the younger generations to start learning their native language. Sam was also involved in the political side of things. He created the first city council in Nain and became the first mayor. He was a role model in his community.
One of the challenges the Labrador Inuit community face when it comes to historical research, on top of their culture being based on oral history, is that the building which housed their archives, radio and TV station burned down in 2005. You can imagine how devastating that was to lose so many important historical documents. The documents attesting to Samโ€™s role in setting up the very first city council and him being the first mayor most likely vanished in that fire. When we worked on the article, in many cases, the only tangible proofs we found were the documents that Sam had kept in his own archives. We did not include anything from his personal diary. We understand that this is not allowed.
I saw in Samโ€™s Wikipedia page a wonderful opportunity to help ensure that a wider variety of Labrador Inuitโ€™s role models is covered in the โ€œCategory:Inuit from Newfoundland and Labradorโ€ Wikipedia page. At present, if you look at that page, 14 of the 25 or so people on the list are politicians and 7 are people from the 17th to 19th centuries who have been the subject of research by non-Inuit. Arenโ€™t Labrador Inuit who have contributed to their community in roles other than political ones also deserve to be included? They may have been working behind the scenes and may not have received as much press coverage, but their contributions are important. Many of the people featured in that category have a very short biography with few references. Some are just stubs that have yet to be improved. It is difficult to understand why these entries were allowed and Sam isn't. The fact that we were able to find over 30 references in a variety of sources was quite a feat.
I hope that these explanations answer your concerns and provide you with a better understanding of the Labrador Inuitโ€™s realities. I may not have succeeded in explaining the importance of Samโ€™s various roles, but I am willing to see how the text can be improved. To do that, I need to better understand where you see the issues. In case you are wondering, I fully wrote the article. Samโ€™s widow was a great help in gathering the documentation and I asked her and her family to review it to ensure that I had not made any mistakes. Other than typos, no one requested changes. Because I am non-Inuit, I make sure to ask the advice of someone from the Inuit community when I write about a subject related to them. It is a question of respect, and it has worked very well for the last 13 years!
Thanks again for your time and help. FranceRivet (talk) 23:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These people are running a rejection mafia. I am sorry about how you feel AbdulRahim2002 (talk) 18:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @SafariScribe I was trying to create an article for Draft:All American (TV series) season 2, Draft:All American (TV series) season 3, Draft:All American (TV series) season 4, Draft:All American (TV series) season 5, and Draft:All American (TV series) season 6 and it keeps been declined can you please look into it and try to make adjustments to creating an article for All American (TV series) season 2, All American (TV series) season 3, All American (TV series) season 4, All American (TV series) season 5, and All American (TV series) season 6, please thank you. 82.46.25.83 (talk) 11:39, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Alex.Dybala (23:35, 21 October 2024)

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Hi, I was trying to add another song to an artist discography for their upcoming playlist, but I can't format the title like the rest of the songs. It's at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deco*27#Singles and at the bottom. I found how to merge cells but I can't move the title ["Neverland"] underneath the 2nd most recent with the same font, same lining etc. Much appreciatedย :) --Alex.Dybala (talk) 23:35, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alex, has the problem be taken care of? If not revert yourself, show me what you want to add, and you will see how it is done. I couldn't find what you're asking on the page. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:21, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So I was trying to fix it via visual editing but it wouldnt let me addย ! scope="row" through it. So I moved to source to add "! scope="row" | "Neverland" as well as move the |} down one row for the table. That didnt work, so I changed the | rowspan="4"| 2024 to "5" and | rowspan="8"| ''Transform'' to "9". Thanks for your help! :D Alex.Dybala (talk) 23:11, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Is there any chance that your name used to be "Saqib"? Indianx123 (talk) 09:53, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Matlock pipe changes

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Bummed you beat me to finish them but still nice job. Thank you for helping with those Disambiguation links. RCSCott91 (talk) 16:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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