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Regarding Hiba Qadir Article

To remove this unreliable sources tag what is the solution for this Nayab Shareyar (talk) 16:09, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Nayab Shareyar, I recommend taking a bit of time to understand the WP:RS and WP:BLP better. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:17, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Saqib bhai. Nayab Shareyar (talk) 16:19, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Nayab Shareyar, But it’s clear that despite multiple warnings and requests, you continue to add WP:OR using unreliable sources. This behavior must stop immediately. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 07:12, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. 188.31.32.162 (talk) 20:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Globally locked?

Hello, Saqib,

I don't know if you have access to your User talk page as you have been globally locked as a compromised account. There is no email link so I'm not sure how one might get in touch with you. I see no signs of disruption on your account so I'm baffled why this is happening and hope that more information comes to light. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Liz, Thanks for checking in on me. I've emailed you anyway. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 14:30, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

I see you are no longer blocked. That was a weird situation. When I thought your account might be compromised, I undid an edit you made to your User page. You might want to revert me. I contacted the WMF person who blocked you on Meta but I haven't seen if they responded to my message. Glad you got things straightened out. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Mubarak Sani case

Good day, Saqib! Wondering if you could review this draft as you have better understanding and importance of this case in Pakistan. 5.30.196.122 (talk) 07:36, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Good start, but there are two issues. First, the article reads like a news story. Please divide it into sections. Second, you’ve relied heavily on one source despite the availability of various coverage. I'd suggest add more sources and then submit it for review, and I’ll handle the rest. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 07:50, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I will find some time to expand it today or tomorrow. 94.204.55.208 (talk) 07:58, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

By the way, how come you’ve got so many IP addresses? — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:01, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

I sent an email

i sent you an email about a subject. It's kind of important. So please consider my request Donteatgarlic (talk) 11:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Request to review decision to delete article on Uzma Beg

Hi Saqib,

Hope you are well. I'm not very well versed in editing and contributing to Wikipedia... hence I may make some mistakes or misunderstand things - please forgive me if I do - it is just my lack of understanding.

I noticed that you had deleted an article about Uzma beg the Pakistani actress. I wanted to ask you how I can go about providing the right information so that the decision to delete can be reversed. I can see that you are sincere about accuracy and wanting to ensure that articles are of good quality. Uzma Beg has acted in many TV serials and also one movie. She became a household name in Pakistan for her role as Bakhto in Chupke Chupke and also had a prominent role in the hit TV serial Hum Tum. She has acted in more than a dozen other TV shows and also acted in a movie called Dum Mastam. I would like to take steps to restore the page that was deleted. The page that was deleted had links to many references including magazine articles and interviews of her.

Can you help me understand the additional information needed to be provided to fulfill the rules for allowing restoration of the article? Also is there a way to find a draft of the article I had worked so hard on - so that I can start over?

Thanks in advance for your patience. I apologize for troubling you and look forward to your reply.

Best Regards,

Sahgalji Sahgalji (talk) 18:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Sahgalji, Why are you so hell-bent on writing BLP about the same actress? Do you have any personal connections or payment involved in writing about this actress? It’s good to be upfront about any COI. Also, since the article was deleted through AfD, I can’t help with it anymore. You might want to reach out to Liz, who closed the AfD. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Saqib, Thanks for your quick reply sir - it is much appreciated.

She is a famous actress of Pakistan and now has a large body of work that has built up especially since 2015. She is a person of public interest and has a significant fan following. Hence, I would like to follow the process to improve the article such that it meets the publication standards of Wikipedia and provides an accurate summary of her professional work. There is no monetary compensation for me at all and I have no interest in pushing inaccurate information. I'm a senior professional working for a multi-national in Dubai. I'm not in the media industry in any way shape or form.

I deduce from your profile that you are likely from Pakistan? Perhaps you would have heard of her? Most of her shows air on HumTV, but she has also done work for PTV and other channels. She has been interviewed multiple times by prominent magazines such as Something Haute (Video: Uzma Beg reveals why she was reluctant to play Bakhto in Chupke Chupke – Something Haute)

I have reached out to Liz and requested her to allow me to access the previous article as a draft so that I may work on it and improve it.

If you have time, I'd value your guidance as I'm not at all familiar with contributing to Wikipedia. I see from your profile that you say, "I get a great deal of satisfaction at improving our articles as much as I can, particularly those related to Pakistan".

I'm trying to do the same for this article! Sahgalji (talk) 11:28, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Sahgalji, Honestly, she doesn't meet the GNG or NACTOR criteria right now, so I can't really help you with that. It’s better to hold off on making a BLP about her until someone else creates one when she truly deserves it. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

My draft page Draft:Western Punjabi

My draft page Draft:Western Punjabi is based on the existing Dutch Wikipedia article at nl:West-Punjabi and is about the Western Punjabi language that's used on the Western Punjabi Wikipedia, which uses the Shahmukhi script, and is separate from the Punjabi Wikipedia (which uses the Gurmukhi script) for some reason, possibly for technical reasons. PK2 (talk; contributions) 10:54, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

PK2, Thank you for your patience! I haven’t been as active lately. I have a couple of questions. 1) does Lahnda only use the Gurmukhi script? 2) the Lahnda article mentions that Lahnda is spoken in Pakistan, but it wasn’t. Anyway, feel free to resubmit the article for review; someone else can handle it since I’m not really an expert in this area. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 14:40, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

my draft page Draft:Pind Goleki

you had rejected my page once and I have tried my best to improve it with better references. I want to see what else can I improve pls can you help me thanks :) Aman Sandhu 12 (talk) 16:46, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Aman Sandhu 12, The article seems quite promotional. Please shorten it and avoid using unreliable sources. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 07:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't understand what part of it sounds like an advert, this is what's like bugging me the most cause genuinely believe me when I say this its taking me way to long to figure that out and I did shorten it just like you asked and all the sources I have used are reliable you can double check them, they are literally done by government officials you can't get more reliable then them Aman Sandhu 12 (talk) 08:25, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Umm can I ask why have you taken the initiative of completely rejecting my draft, and what's this about adding additional information later on. Was this necessary? because Im frankly offended im adding these information as this area is very poorly researched and whilst your here trying to get rid of draft. I mean what do I have to do to tell you that I won't add any additions if approved you have my word. Aman Sandhu 12 (talk) 08:41, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

and also what's with you having an issue with you using my own images that I have taken from my own phone from my trip to Pakistan. I feel like there's an agenda against me even with the references and sources I was using statistic from Pak Gov, and also using BRITISH GAZZETTER and idk why you lot said its not a reliable source Aman Sandhu 12 (talk) 08:48, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Aman Sandhu 12, I feel like there's an agenda against me That’s enough for me to stop engaging with you. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:22, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

yh cause your argument your whole argument about rejecting my draft is based on a feeling, you know how stupid that sounds rather than using your position in a position of authority usefully, and give ACTUAL help, your basing your rejection on a feeling, and also YOU LITERALLY PUT A COPYRIGHT CLAIM ON MY OWN BLOODY PICTURES. so do u understand why I said that or did your "feelings" said that not to engage with me Aman Sandhu 12 (talk) 09:59, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

And you put copyright claim on older picture which were reviewed several times but WHEN YOU CHECKED THEM you put a claim on them, u tell me actually wait I will tell you since you love using your feelings instead of the brain god I presume gave you, to anyone it would look like you have something against them Aman Sandhu 12 (talk) 10:03, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

No need to take offense. Please take your concerns to WP:AFC for additional opinions! — Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:16, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

My Draft page Draft:Tariq Sheikh

Hi Saqib, Thanks for your time and efforts to review my work, always glad to learn from expert editors. Agreed with the remarks as I'm still working on this draft page to make it comply with the WP guidelines before the final publish.

Also would like to clarify that there's nothing like paid task at all. If I do not write, anyone else can do it even if you want, none of my own interest here. It's just for the sake of sharing information with the readers as whenever I read about something notable and don't find it here, try to write on it with whatever the information available from open sources. It takes long due to my personal engagements and sometimes months to complete a draft until it's ready to publish. Hope it clarifies. Feel free to let me know if I did something wrong. Jugni (talk) 18:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Proof Read the draft and publish it.

Hi saqib.. kindly Edit the draft and publish it.. all the details and information is 100% accurate and authentic... https://www.wikiwand.com/en/articles/Draft%3ADarbar_Khanyara_Sharif 59.103.26.106 (talk) 14:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Author notability

Hi there, I'm not very familiar with author BLP's and wanted to ask if this author qualifies as notable. I just came across one of his books and I must admit, I'm surprised it covers way more for whole sports including football then what I did during these years. So far I only found this, this and this. Not sure if two sources covering him in detail from Dawn and The News are enough but will try to find more sources. I do believe it qualifies as per WP:AUTHOR but thought I would get a 2nd opinion and ask for your input. JayFT047 (talk) 13:34, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

JayFT047, I'm also unsure if this author easily meets the WP:NAUTHOR because while he has authored some books, they don't seem significant enough to me. If there's doubt about meeting WP:N, I usually recommend creating a draft and allow a reviewer to assess it once the bio is ready. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 13:53, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Please study WP:DRAFTIFY

Unfortunately you moved Mayi Ri to draft in this edit. This was an error. Please focus on the section "Reasons not to move an article to draftspace". While I can see the wording "Editors should generally avoid moving an article to draftspace in the following circumstances:" you need to consider the word "generally" You should also look at the move log among the logs. If you feel this article should not be in mainspace as presented your course of acton is either:

• Send it to WP:AFD
• tag it for improvement

I doubt it was your intention to make this error. I am sure your intentions were in good faith. My request is simply that you increase your knowledge to avoid errors. We all make them as we learn. I've made a great many. I am sure I will make new ones. I just try hard not to repeat old mistakes. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:22, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Timtrent, My bad, I didn’t realize the page was created over 90 days ago. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:02, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

I knew it was something like that. No harm done. Hope my message did not upset you. It was guidance rather than criticism. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Timtrent, I’m totally fine with that. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

"Muhajir Sooba" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Muhajir Sooba has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 2 § Muhajir Sooba until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 20:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Request on 23:43:31, 4 October 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Faizullah Anwar

• Faizullah Anwar (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Irfan Aslam (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

hi saqib hope you are doing well. First of all according to Wikipedia:Notability this article is eligible. what are the reasons behind the rejection please elaborate at here.Second thing All the sources are Verified according to the Wikipedia:Reliable sources majority of the refferences are from the pakistan no 1 channels website. And if i understand the policy of the wikipedia. this platform is used to provide information and we are providing wikipedia information free of cost. SO why are all these objections please tell me which links are unverified . if you are saying that Geo Entertainment's and other pakistan no. 1 channels websites are fake it means you are questioning to their authenticity and their wikipedia information are also fake. before i started i did a lot of research like these biography and checked For example Yasir Nawaz .FYI Irfan Alsam is a Drama Director he served the industry with his lots art and drama. also last thing there is the Referencing for beginners and Citing sources is accurately done. kindly please tell me which kind of refferences this biography is required and why did you declined it. waiting for your reply. — Saqib

Faizullah Anwar (talk) 23:43, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Faizullah Anwar, I’m not the only one who rejected your draft—two other editors did too. While you think the references you used are reliable, I don’t agree. Many of the sources aren’t WP:RS . Plus, the BLP feels really PROMO, which is a big issue. I just don’t think the subject meets WP:N either. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:04, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

how to get improve this article need your asistance to publish it on wikipedia asap. if you are interested to figuring it out. Faizullah Anwar (talk) 16:16, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

also i am not getting the option of resubmitting. @Saqib Faizullah Anwar (talk) 17:24, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: His attentions are trying to ask me money.because he published his email address on his page and ask us to contact on that. Also i researched on it he is paid digital marketer he not a contributor so please beware of him i am also going to email against him on wikipedia support. Faizullah Anwar (talk) 11:02, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Also he is not a qualified source for wikipedia pages. Faizullah Anwar (talk) 11:03, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Every time I read your messages, I can't help but laugh—keep it coming! — Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Parvez Elahi/GA1

Saqib, you haven't completed your review of this nomination: if you wish to fail it, please follow the steps at Wikipedia:Good article nominations/Instructions#Failing to complete your review. Or, if you'd like, I can do those steps for you. (You may have noticed that a few weeks after you completed your review, someone else came by on the article talk page and changed the article's status from Start-class to C-class, well below GA level.) Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder! I almost forgot to close this. I didn’t do it earlier because I wanted to give others a chance to share their opinions, allowing the nominator to consider their suggestions. Unfortunately, it seems no one took the time to review it. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Reconsider your admin nom

I see you are running for adminship. You honestly think you'd make a good admin with your toxic editing behavior? Like seriously? Frankly, you should just withdraw your nomination. It’s almost funny. Why not save yourself the embarrassment and just withdraw now? Everyone knows about your involvement in your conflict of interest and paid editing remember this & you really think the community’s gonna overlook that? If you don’t wanna withdraw now, be ready for some tough questions from all those people you've let down. But best wishes anyhow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bundu9090 (talk • contribs) 05:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Bundu9090, No comments, I guess! — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:46, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

@Bundu9090 seems like you woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Had to create an account just to say this. Wikibear47 (talk) 14:19, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Frankly I'm tempted to block you as obviously WP:NOTHERE and someone more than likely to be a sock who's too scared to put their name behind such a statement. Shameful and pathetic. Hey man im josh (talk) 02:56, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

@Hey man im josh: I absolutely agree. Literally creating an account in order to make the one edit full of ABF and aspersions? I think NOTHERE sums it up! Not here to build an encyclopedia, very much here to troll Saqib... SerialNumber54129 10:49, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello everyone, just want to clear up that I'm not bothered by such messages. I know they probably came from a WP:BE sock who's annoyed with my work. And I’d like to make it clear that my decision to withdraw from running in the admin election was my own and not because of any such intimidation. I’ll stick to contributing just the way I have been. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 13:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Just for the record in my opinion you would have made a very good admin because of your contributions to WikiProject Pakistan and Wikipedia as a whole over the years. Wikibear47 (talk) 16:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

You've got mail!

Hello, Saqib. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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Thank you

Just a brief note to thank you for your excellent work yesterday, it was very much appreciated.

Kind regards, Axad12 (talk) 05:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Thankful for your appreciation! I'm barely getting started and will definitely need input from you and others as I go. I noticed there's quite a backlog in this area, so I thought I’d lend a hand. For example, one of my reports regarding RaviEditor still hasn't gotten a response from anyone. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:56, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

One thing I've learnt about COIN is that some threads get a lot of interest and some don't. There doesn't seem to be a clear reason for this. It used to be the case that the great majority of threads didn't result in any sanctions being applied because admins rarely visited COIN. I've recently been able to get an admin to dispense blocks on particularly serious and obvious COIN cases. However, there is also a feeling that the more serious cases probably ought to go to WP:ANI rather than WP:COIN to get more admin exposure.

I remember the days when most threads ended up without blocks and at present I'm just happy that COIN gets a degree of admin support. The fact that some threads don't go anywhere I just take as a fact of life. One thing, however, is that if the subject of an unresolved thread needs to be taken back to COIN at a later date then the chances of the new thread being resolved increase significantly.

Also, most of the people taken to COIN are very small time operators with barely concealed COIs, or people editing on behalf of their company, their family, etc. Most of these people just disappear when it is pointed out that there are rules about editing and it isn't just an extension of social media.

Also worth noting, I think, that many of the non-notable rubbish articles that COI users seem to often curate are attracting perhaps 3 views a day (and some of those views are probably the COI user looking at their own article!). That being the case it probably isn't worth worrying too much because, you know, there are other things in life.

If you have difficulty attracting admin interest at WP:COIN, other good options are WP:RPPI (page protection to stop vandalism, edit warring, general disruptive editing), WP:UAA (for blocking users with username violations, e.g. those who edit under the name of the article), also WP:SPI (for blocking sockpuppets). I've sometimes been able to get COI users blocked through referral to any of those places when I've had no luck at COIN. Axad12 (talk) 09:02, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

A word of advice...

Careful with WP:OUTING. Better just to say "off wiki evidence suggests some degree of association" or something like that. Posting any personal info about a user which that user has not themselves previously posted on Wikipedia is technically outing under the terms of the policy. Axad12 (talk) 13:47, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Axad12, Thank you for your insights on COI/N. Regarding OUTING, you’re talking about Akif Tanzeel, right? I will be cautious about posting anything that is not publicly available on WP. Thanks for the reminder! — Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:53, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

National Assembly of Pakistan

Hi Why a seat is vacant? Panam2014 (talk) 14:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Panam2014, Which seat? — Saqib (talk I contribs) 14:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

There is a mop reserved in your name

You are a remarkable editor in many ways. You would be a good administrator, in my opinion, and appear to be well qualified. You personify an administrator without tools and have gained my support already!

Maliner (talk) 15:11, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

• I applaud Maliner's choice, although their sense of timing less so 🙄 SerialNumber54129 21:59, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Serial Number 54129 I completely agree with you, and I am extremely sorry for that. But I think Saqib can still run for adminship with our regular RFA process. Regards, Maliner (talk) 05:53, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

+1 ToadetteEdit (talk) 06:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Hey, Saqib!

I hope you are doing fine and well, you may or may not remember me but I absolutely do. I'm writing this to ask for a way to communicate with you privately, since you are no longer in the #wikipedia-en-help server. Regards, Indianx123. Indianx123 (talk) 10:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

You can always reach out to me via email if there's anything private to discuss. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Umar Farooq Zahoor for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Umar Farooq Zahoor is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Umar Farooq Zahoor (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Bosecovey (talk) 20:59, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Shifa International Hospitals

Hello Saqib, I've recently been dealing with a COI edit request for Shifa International Hospitals, a healthcare company based in Pakistan. The initial edit request was, to my mind, highly promotional and I declined it. I have been discussing this with the COI editor and I've pointed out to him that the current article probably has an undue amount of negative coverage and that what will be required will be overall fair coverage of good and bad based on independent reliable sources. I wondered if you might take a look at the discussion (and the article) and give us both the benefit of your thoughts? Kind regards, Axad12 (talk) 11:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Axad12, You addressed it quite effectively but thank you for bringing this to my attention, as well. I’ve made my comments and I also filed a SPI report. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 13:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks for your input. I hadn't noticed the sock element. Axad12 (talk) 14:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Out of interest...

...how did you spot the sock activity so quickly on the Mandi News case?

Were you looking at a list of newly created articles or something? And if so, where is it?

As you know, I'm most appreciative of your excellent work. Axad12 (talk) 17:43, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Axad12, I'm a NPP, focusing specifically on Pakistan related articles, which is how I came across their latest BLP. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 17:49, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.

In the future I very much hope that you will consider again standing for adminship. To my eyes you are the type of editor who ought to be an admin.

Admittedly, in some people's opinion I may not be the best person to judge that kind of thing, given my recent misadventures here [1] and here [2]. But no one can please everyone (and I hope I shall never do so)... Axad12 (talk) 18:05, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Axad12, Thanks for your encouragement! I’ll definitely think about seeking adminship when I feel ready, but I worry it might take away from the true editing experience. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 17:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

WP:Bully and WP:Canvass

Just because i was inactive for sometime you have initiated another baseless SPI against me [3] why such bullying behavior? You thought admin would block me as i am not available to clear my points, as usual there was no need of such agression which you have showed on my talkpage just a few hours ago and you want others to assume good faith if some one is continuously supporting you but showing aggresion and filing SPI against me again and again. Also you have a history of attempting WP:CANVASS and want AFD system like team work which everyone is noticing like this one's [4], [5], [6], here two senior editors also pointed out your behavior of canvassing [7], [8], [9]. As far as WP:ATD is concern, it clearly states Delete per nom is WP:ATD but you are supporting this behavior just because it is in your favor.

Also, i am no one to point out but you have archived your chat just after three (two of them are senior and established) pakistani editors pointed out your behavior and tried to correct you on your talkpage User talk:Saqib/Archive 3#Throwing random opinion & accusing others on their talkpage may be because you don't want others to read those messages about your behavior (i may be wrong though) but i want senior editors to read those messages therefore attaching link above. Libraa2019 (talk) 20:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Libraa2019, I don’t really get what you’re trying to prove by pulling up diffs to some old, selective comments. If your goal is to make me look like a problematic, flawed editor, then so be it. And that last comment about me trying to hide your old message? That seriously made me laugh. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:00, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• I just want you to stop hounding and harassing me and stop baseless allegations like you did here [10] you have tried enough attempts to block me but now please stop it. Libraa2019 (talk) 17:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

  Libraa2019, Honestly, I’m fed up with your constant accusations. I’m not hounding and harassing you; I’m just calling out your edits. Stop trying to make me look like a bad editor just because you can’t defend your position. There’s no need to respond to this message, as this back-and-forth is pointless. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:04, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

  Saqib, If you forgot, i would like to remind you, yesterday, you posted aggresive message on my talkpage and it started from yourside again. I hope it is the last time you used my talkpage for expressing your aggression. I am also fed up with your same allegations again and again. Libraa2019 (talk) 19:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

  Libraa2019, This comment was not an allegation; if it were, you wouldn't be striking your comments. And neither was the comment aggressive, as you're claiming. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:08, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

  Saqib There are countless attempts in which you passed derogatory comments on me by calling me UPE, sock etc. I've struck off my comment because admin said not because of you. He is an admin and he has a right. Those comments were not for you then why did you posted such aggresive message? Besides, i was shocked to see you filed SPI in my absense. Will you care to explain what was that? Were you trying to block me because i was not available to prove my point? Is this normal behavior? Libraa2019 (talk) 19:31, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Libraa2019, please read what I wrote below. I understand that discussions over content can be contentious and frustrating at times, but please file an appropriate complaint or WP:DTS. And to clarify, an admin has a right to say whatever they want, but I think you misunderstand the role and authority of an admin. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:35, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker), Saqib, please make sure to always assume good faith regardless of what could be perceived as an attack. Libraa2019, you need to stop making accusations of bullying and bludgeoning. You were warned in the linked deletion discussion about attempted intimidation. If you feel editor conduct is not appropriate, please report to WP:ANI. But, please make sure to read WP:CLEANHANDS. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:13, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

  Saqib

  CNMall41, I can totally see why they’d be frustrated (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laiba Khan and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Woh Aik Pal (2nd nomination)), — Saqib (talk I contribs) 14:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  I am too seeing from where Saqib's frustration is coming and it is totally understandable (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abu Aleeha (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Akhtar Usman). Libraa2019 (talk) 16:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

How the frustration happened is of no interest. The response after becoming frustrated is. Again, ANI is that way but failure to WP:DTS takes away from everyone's enjoyment of editing Wikipedia. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Baseless Allegation

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Reshmaaaa (talk) 05:08, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Ch Salik Hussain page editing rights.

Dear Saqib, I hope you're doing well. I just wanted to talk to you regarding Salik Hussain article. Can you please contact me? Tahir9511 (talk) 05:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Tahir9511, Hello, I'm not interested in discussing matters outside of Wikipedia. If there's anything to talk about, please do so here. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Inquiry Regarding Wikipedia Rights for Chaudhry Salik Hussain's Account

Dear Saqib, I am reaching out as the team leader for Chaudhry Salik Hussain regarding the rights and management of his Wikipedia account. I would appreciate your guidance on how best to address certain issues and ensure accurate representation. Please let me know the appropriate steps or contacts for further assistance. Thank you for your support. Best regards, Ghias Rehman GhiasRehman (talk) 06:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

GhiasRehman, Hello, You can raise your concerns on the BLP's tp. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I would like to update some details and add new information regarding Chaudhry Salik Hussain, as I represent him directly. To ensure the page aligns accurately with his instructions, I am requesting editing rights or permissions to make these updates.

Could you please guide me through the process to obtain these rights, or let me know if I should raise these points on the BLP's talk page? GhiasRehman (talk) 06:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

GhiasRehman, You can submit an edit request using this link. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:39, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Kabhi Main Kabhi Tum

Dear Saqib,

I should add draft for 2024 television series Kabhi Main Kabhi Tum or not? by --Sunuraju (talk) 09:55, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Sunuraju, You don't need my permission, but please keep in mind that this article has been created multiple times by the UPE sock farm of Nauman335. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:37, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

three months ago i planned add Kabhi Main Kabhi Tum in wiki because i heard drama was popular was across south asia but i busy for editing for articles and i unaware that draft was created by sockpuppert farm by Nauman335,and didnt know, i should ask for permission for Kabhi Main Kabhi Tum so can i add and my apogiles Sunuraju (talk) 12:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

132Lemons132 add Kabhi Main Kabhi Tum i was not aware by --Sunuraju (talk) 11:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Churna–Kaio Islands

I'm not sure what exactly your aim is but it seems you are in an hurry to get rid of these articles. Why did you want to merge Kaio Island to Churna, which is about something else altogether? And why are thirteen reliable sources not sufficient? What number would satisfy you to publish an article? Gedrose (talk) 18:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Gedrose, I've got nothing against these islands, but you need to keep GNG in mind. The coverage you cited doesn't really help meet GNG and it’s not just about how many sources there are - it’s really about the quality of those sources. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

So you regard a United Nations body, a national government ministry, national newspapers and international charities to be poor quality sources? I do not understand what kind of sources you're looking for. Your repeated failure to address my questions is why I question your aim. Your initial reasoning for Churna–Kaio Islands was that you thought it was redundant to Churna Island (which has far fewer references). You then pointedly refused to answer my question on why you thought the sources were insufficient to demonstrate notability. Again and again I've asked the same question, only to get effectively a point blank response that you just don't like the articles. Can you bring yourself to write a proper answer or are you going to keep using the generic response of GNG is not met? Gedrose (talk) 18:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Gedrose, It seems you want me to conduct a source assessment, but this isn’t the right forum for that and I don’t have the time at the moment. All I can say is that I find the sources as TRIVIALMENTION, not poor quality, that doesn’t addresses the topic directly and in detail. And my reasoning for suggesting that the Churna–Kaio Islands be merged into the Churna Island article is the same: when a topic fails to meet WP:N, it should be merged with the closest relevant topic, which in this case is Churna Island. Isn't it? Also, if you believe the Churna Island article has fewer sources, I encourage you to focus your efforts on improving that article rather than advocating for the creation of articles on what I see as a non-notable locations. I repeat I've nothing against these islands or your articles, so please assume AGF and avoid unfounded accusations. Lastly, I recommend you revisit WP:N for clarity on notability. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 20:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

I would have assumed that you did check the sources before making a unilateral move to draft. You've pointed to WP:TRIVIALMENTION which is an essay that does not go beyond the guidelines, so it is no help in defining your argument. I'd ask if you've read WP:GEONATURAL, which says that names natural features (including islands) are notable if there is "information beyond statistics and coordinates". All of the sources used in Churna–Kaio Islands and Kaio Island go beyond statistics and coordinates. Three of the references have multiple pages about the islands. Are you still going to say this is trivial? There are multiple tags you could have used in a helpful way such as the notability, more citations, expand tags. You could have left a message on my talk page explaining your concerns and suggesting moving to draft. Instead you've taken a high-handed approach and made some intensive assumptions. Are you willing to admit it was a mistake to propose a merger between Kaio Island and Churna (a mixture of powdered herbs) as you did here? Anyone can make mistakes but I think it shows you did not check what you were proposing. Gedrose (talk) 10:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Gedrose, Yes, I made a mistake proposing a merger with Churna instead of Churna Island. I totally didn’t think there could be an Ayurvedic medicine called Chiurna. Silly me! Also, I checked GEONATURAL and it says that Named natural features are often notable, but that doesn’t mean they always are. Also, just to clarify, I haven’t deleted any article or AFD’d them; but your comment makes it sound like they’ve vanished into thin air. I just draftified them and if you think my draftification doesn’t make sense, feel free to ask for an AFC review. I also noticed that another editor took a look at your draft Draft:Churna–Kaio Islands and declined it. Guess I’m not the only one who thinks it’s not notable yet. I guess this is a classic case of TOOSOON? Anyway, instead of arguing here, it might be more productive to work on improving the article and get them approved through AFC. What do you think? — Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

You've got mail

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About what? Share it with the class, please. TheMediaHistorian (talk) 07:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

TheMediaHistorian, They sent some private information about you, but I suggested that they email it to paid queue, instead. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 07:50, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

How do they know it's private information about me? TheMediaHistorian (talk) 10:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

(Still waiting...) TheMediaHistorian (talk) 03:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

You are involved in an ANI discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Titan2456 (talk) 23:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)