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Orphaned non-free media (File:Logo darden.gif)

Thanks for uploading File:Logo darden.gif. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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Stavros Damianides

Hi again. Graeme Bartlett I have recently come under some personal attacks by admins of Wikipedia sparked by my edits on the Kastellorizo article. As a consequence you will notice partners or the same person with alternative names, or a gang, have launched personal attacks on every article i have edited. I would like you to initiate a prtoection for the page of Stavros Damianides. He was a well known Bouzouki player in Australia and in his younger days played with the best artists in Greece. He comes from a pre-internet age and few digital sources are around. He shares a similar story to Robert Johnson in the USA where he was never professionally recorded. The other matter is that despite evidence being given of well respected sources, these particular admins have repeatedly attacked and vandalized his entry. This photo will most likely also be deleted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stavros_Damianides_Hyde_Park_Festival,_Channel_9_Stage.png as was this one: http://image2.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2011/130/69704596_130517932940.jpg as was this one: http://simg.rcdn.in/images/pages/348987/stavros-damianides.jpg the Admins who deleted this page have been monitoring my editing and have in the process destroyed one of the most significant pages of history for Perth Australia. The man not only played on his chin as shown in the picture, he was one of the best bouzouki player around. The article was sourced and confirmed because it was essentially part of Wikipedia for 10-15 years. I wish this page to be restored but also protected against similar juvenile admins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ephestion (talk • contribs) 20:19, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Article Feedback Tool update

Hey Graeme Bartlett. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the Article Feedback Tool in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.

We've now re-released the software, with the addition of a logging feature and restrictions on the ability to disable. Obviously, we're not going to automatically re-enable it on each article—we don't want to create a situation where it was enabled by users who have now moved on, and feedback would sit there unattended—but if you're interested in enabling it for your articles, it's pretty simple to do. Just go to the article you want to enable it on, click the "request feedback" link in the toolbox in the sidebar, and AFT5 will be enabled for that article.

Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just drop them at the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) 21:43, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

File:IMGP3165-1.JPG‎

Hey Graeme-- I noticed you declined my speedy deletion on this particular file due to this file being used off-wiki. How did you check for this exactly, because I wasn't aware that you could look for usage of a file outside of Wikipedia / commons / etc.? I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 13:55, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

AfC

Looks to me like Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Eden primary may be salvageable. What is the next step?--SPhilbrick(Talk) 21:09, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

OK, I see you userfied it.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 21:13, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Military badges

Thank you for following up my speedy deletion tags on Wally Wiglet's files. He seems to have created a one man epidemic of copyvio. Can I ask you to look at File:Cambridgeshire Regiment Badge.jpg, that one seems to be slipping through the net. I've re-tagged it this morning. SonofSetanta (talk) 11:52, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I did not delete it yesterday as it was unclear that it was any kind of infringement, but deleted now that you pointed out where it came from. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:55, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I see another admin released some of the badges from possible deletion last night because he/she was still only considering the NFU versus Free Use criticism. I've still got another small handful of free use badges from my main donor awaiting uploading but when I'm finished I'll be combing Mr Wiglet's editing history to tag any remaining files which haven't been deleted. I had no idea people could be so blatant in the abuse of copyright. do you think it's because he just didn't know the right way to go about it, or did he know and was trying to bluff his way round the guidelines by inserting these elaborate summaries? I've raised the possibility of an ANI case with someone else privately but he thinks it would be wrong to do that. What's your opinion? I would feel like a real heel doing it but if it has to be done then let's do it. Of course I have little experience in this sort of thing. He may well be quite a small fry in terms of copyright violators in the overall scheme of things vis-a-vis Wikipedia. SonofSetanta (talk) 12:05, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Chances are he does not know. Most people do not realise they are not allowed to copy images off the web. They may even assume that an image of a public domain object is public domain. WP:AGF applies. Until you talk to the uploader you cannot be sure. Only after lots of warnings and continued infractions will you know if it was blatant knowing infringement with bad faith and no hope of reform. ANI is not the first step, but perhaps step 3 or 4. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:17, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. That clarifies things for me. It would help if the user would step forward and interact with myself and Stefan2 but thus far he seems to have gone to ground. Not surprising really. SonofSetanta (talk) 12:35, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Probably disappointed or angry at losing hours and hours of uploading and labelling work. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:38, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I made that very clear to him on his talk page when informing him of what was going wrong. I can see how much work he's done and it's a shame to have to wreck a considerable part of it. I've salvaged a large part of it by finding new badges from a friendly donor but a lot of infoboxes will have no badges on them for a while which is a shame. SonofSetanta (talk) 12:43, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I'm just embarrassed at having caused all this trouble. All I can say is that I did ask. Wally Wiglet (talk) 05:09, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Incidentally, I did get an email from you this morning, but I have no idea how to respond to it without telling you and the NSA who I am. Wally Wiglet (talk) 05:13, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Well if you received the email perhaps you have revealed your identity! One technique I use if I don't quite trust the receiver is to register another email account on yahoo and send from there to the email of the person I got the Wikipedia email from. Of course if you are happy to have it discussed in the open then, Wikipedia talk pages are fine. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:52, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

The summary for UK badges: If they are old enough crown copyright has expired, before 1946 the design will be public domain in the UK and the USA. After that there is a legal hole where copyright is expired in UK but not legal to copy in the USA. Since the object is 3d a new copyright exists for those that photograph it or draw it. You can photograph it yourself to get your own copyright, but you cannot just take others work. Lastly fair use may apply for the more modern objects. But it will require that the image is not replaceable. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:52, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Wally, the e-mail you received was from me. You can reply using a hotmail or google account if you wish and we can keep out discussion between us or you can respond on your talk page. I can see now you were given the wrong information and understand (as I think I did all along) that you didn't set out to do anything wrong. What's been annoying me all along is the amount of your work I've been obliged to destroy. We all know how long it takes to acquire these images, upload them and then insert them into articles. Graeme has got me thinking I can save all the graphics files if I can find a reason to label them {PD Old} and reupload them on Commons as free use files: as I did with many of your badges which I had donated by a non-member. It's a helluva big learning curve mate and I understand the difficulties in trying to recognise the various copyright standards. I need to point out to you that I'm not an admin or copyright enforcer. I'm just an ordinary editor like you so don't think you have to defer to me in anyway. SonofSetanta (talk) 13:02, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Your comment at WP:UND (Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Xsyon))

I'm getting into the space of challenging those editors who had 30 days notice that their article was Speedy-able, did nothing, and as soon as the article is deleted they post malformed requests asking for the undeletion. From the ones I've been able to wiki-stalk, the petitioning editor has been idle for a very long time and the indignation they show when they could not take even the minute-est effort to actually do something about the page prior to deletion makes me give them the hard eye. Hasteur (talk) 21:26, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

I hope you can motivate them to do better! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:27, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Jaded (Band)

Hey, regarding the declined speedy deletion of this article, I originally tagged it as a hoax, but then changed it because it was not the obvious vandalism I'm supposed to use G3 for. However, looking for sources before I tagged the article, it seems pretty clear to me that all information presented in the article is false, that the band doesn't exist (if they do, nothing covers them), and that they never sold the amount of albums that article says they did. What should I do regarding this? I'm hesitant to immediately send it to AfD because it is obviously a hoax and would probably be an obvious delete. TCN7JM 07:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

If you think it is obvious use {{db-hoax}}. This raises my suspiscions of a hoax, but not confident enough for a speedy delete. you could just add {{hoax}} at the top. An AFD would certainly sus it out. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:47, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I still think it's speedy worthy, but I've sent it to AfD nonetheless. Thanks. TCN7JM 08:00, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Canadian Union of Taxpaying Individuals

• After doing some more research, it appears that this article is actually a hoax; see my edit summary. Erpert ^{WHAT DO YOU WANT???} 08:52, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

• deleted. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:11, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Flag nominations

Hi Graeme. Thank you for your message on my talk page regarding flags I've nominated for deletion. Can we discuss this in more detail because I'd like to save the editor's work if possible. The reason I nominated those particular flags for speedy deletion is because they all appear to be downloads from other websites and are missing permission from the author of the images. From what I have read before nominating them is that this makes them copyvio and eligible for speedy deletion. Is there a way round this? SonofSetanta (talk) 09:41, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Well I think they can be fair use as the flags are recent creations that I can see. This means there are no free old versions available to use. SO either they are fair use or not used at all. If not used we delete. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:56, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

We need to see a permission ticket to keep them though - don't we? SonofSetanta (talk) 10:04, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

No permission needed, but they must satisfy every point of the WP:NFCC. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:12, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Can you explain to me why we don't need a permission ticket in these instances? I've e-mailed Wally privately to see if I can't encourage him to interact with us. In the meantime do I tag his graphics {Puf} as I've been doing? SonofSetanta (talk) 10:15, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Take a read of Wikipedia:Non-free content. Some content can be used without permission. Things that are used to identify the organisation. This can be logos, flags, seals or badges. However if they are replaceable by a free image that is better. There is no need to lodge a PUF entry fo something used under fair use, becase we expect it to be unfree. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:27, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Ok. I've read that and now understand what is required. I'll check through the graphic files from yesterday and ensure all the {Puf} tags are removed and leave a message for Wally to that effect. All of this is still a learning curve for me but it'll help me in the future when doing similar things myself. I can assure you I won't be applying for a post as a copyright enforcer. I'm only involved in this instance because of my knowledge of the military. SonofSetanta (talk) 10:51, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Just a thought - what about Wally's claims of "Own Work" when the image has been copied from elsewhere? SonofSetanta (talk) 10:53, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Well if it is identical showing it was copied then remove the claim. This can count as a copyright infringement, but of we want the picture just fix it up. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:18, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Ok. All understood. I'll have a go at that then. Once I've done the first one I'll check with you to ensure I've got the licencing correct. SonofSetanta (talk) 14:47, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I've fixed up File:RTR Distinction.png as Crown Copyright but I want to double check in case it is {PD Old}. I've run out of time for today though. My mammy will spank me if I'm late for dinner ;) SonofSetanta (talk) 16:54, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

It is good to have a source. Since one requirement is that the item has been published, and it is important that we know it is genuine. Also your image is low resolution. The portion used is probably the front (if this is a badge). If it was issued in 1945 then it would be public domain. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:56, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Regarding the flags and badges, I drew them myself using Inkscape and the Gimp but, obviously, I based them on other images. For example:

• The Devon and Dorset Regiment Colour is based on this.
• The Assaye Colour is based on images here and here.
• The Royal Tank Regiment Distinction was based on a slightly larger version of this, which I cannot now find.
• The Naval Crown was based on an image here.
• The Royal Artillery Distinction was based on an image here.

I can dig out the rest if you need, but these should give you an idea of what I was doing. I thought they were original enough to qualify as my own work (obviously, if they did not resemble the originals there would have been no point in drawing them) but please let me know what copyright tag and source I should have used. Thanks. Wally Wiglet (talk) 08:00, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

• Devon and Dorset Regiment Colour from 1958. PD UK, derivative CC-BY-SA-3.0 in UK.
• Royal Tank Regiment Distinction as I mentioned the original may be public domain.
• Naval Crown
• Royal Artillery Distinction

I would say that your work is not a derivative of the photographs but of the flags in the photos. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:22, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Graeme. The priority now is to save as many of these images as possible and, if possible, get them uploaded to Commons as "Free" files. Wally I'm going to send you another e-mail. We have work to do me old mucker. SonofSetanta (talk) 13:05, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hi There Graeme,

This article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/David_Marks_(politician) received your attention, and you had stated that Councilmen do not normally receive Wikipedia pages. However, Baltimore CityItalic text', not county, councilmembers all of Wiki pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skahl7180 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

AWB

Hi Graeme. Can you review my AWB request again on Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage? Thanks. Jianhui67 Talk 14:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Prof.Dr Nasir Ansar

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DYK Nomination

Hi Graeme, I found your name on a list of active DYK reviewers. I've submitted the Charles R. Chickering (artist) article for DYK nomination, which I created shortly before its nomination. It was approved by one reviewer but with a reservation about wording in the hook, so we need another opinion. Could you check it out if and when you have the time?

Also, I am reviewing some other DYK nom's but being sort of new at it, I'm having a difficult time checking for QPQ. Is there an easy (or easier) way to do this besides combing through someone's contrib's? -- Gwillhickers 18:31, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Usually they will indicate on the nomination if they have done one. But on the one you considered it was not a self nomination, so no QPQ was required. Also a move into article space counts as the date created. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:59, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. As I said, I'm knew at DYK reviews. Also, my Charles R. Chickering (artist) nomination is no longer listed under Sept. 6, and it has not hit the main page yet. What happened? What is really strange is that when I went to View history, for Sept. 6, it's not listed there, while there are edits made on Sept. 11. How do edits made on Sept. 11th show up in Sept. 6 View History?? -- Gwillhickers 22:53, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay, after a little digging I found out the article was promoted by Allen3, so I guess it will take some time before it appears on the main page. However, I am still puzzled that it doesn't show up in View History, and that edits made on the 11th show up under View History for the 6th. (Look at the Capture of the Dutch fleet at Den Helder nomination: The last edit there was made on the 11th.) -- Any ideas? -- Gwillhickers 23:16, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Your dates are being confused because there is a template transcluded on the Template:Did you know nominations page and the real page you should look at the history of is Template:Did you know nominations/Capture of the Dutch fleet at Den Helder: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Capture_of_the_Dutch_fleet_at_Den_Helder&action=history I agree that the referencing is not good enough, and if no one will fix it it will miss out. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! Some wording (near paraphrasing) issues came up, after the nomination was promoted, which I have resolved and I was hoping you could take another peek at the nomination if you have the time, as things seem to be moving kinda slow over there.
Also, are QPQ reviews cumulative? IOW, if I reviewed ten nominations, am I good to go for ten of my own nominations? Once again, thanks for the info and your time and effort. -- Gwillhickers 23:52, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes you can certainly build up a reserve. To keep yourself organised you can have a page called User:Gwillhickers/DYK reviews with a list and then strike them off when you use it for QPQ. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:36, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Datification

Hello from Afghanistan, thank you for the note on datification. I made quite a few changes, hope it meets the intent. Awaiting your direction...This concept is going through many changes that I have tried to capture 180.94.73.12 (talk) 17:01, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Category:Jewish American actors

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Accepting a G13-eligible submission

Hi Graeme, I'm one of the developers for the Article for creation helper script. I saw your comment at User_talk:Hasteur#Bot_limits:

I still find about 1 in 20 articles queued for G13 delete that were worth accepting as they were. My complaint about the AFC tools is that you cannot accept a declined article. So then I have to do it by hand, more work, and not all the bits get done then (like notification).

...And thought I could help! I've updated the source code to display the "Accept" link for all G13-eligible nominations, even if they've already been declined. It won't be available in the main gadget for a few weeks, but you can install this mirror script for access to the functionality now (you may have to WP:BYPASS your cach). Hope this helps, Theopolisme (talk) 22:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

excellent, I will be trying this out. (If I see something worthwhile) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:56, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined

Hello, you declined The Makerz speedy deletion saying, "person in this had article" I do not know what the means, but neither of the members of the production group ever had articles they were both redirects to this article (seemingly created to make it seem as if they did have articles). Also according to the article their only production credits were to two not notable songs, definitely not enough notability to pass A7. STATic message me! 04:09, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Just put a prod tag on it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:28, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I do not understand how that explains your dismission, but okay if you say so. STATic message me! 20:33, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

DATIFICATION

Good day from Afghanistan, there appeared a ... new .... "different" deletion notification...something to the effect of marketing campaign??? The two individuals I reference in the article are in the datification field BUT I do not know them? Should I take their quotes out? Seems that would hurt the credibility...I'm at a loss?? Thanks for your patience, please advise? 180.94.73.12 (talk) 19:50, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Lovetone

Please clarify whys you have removed tags from this article lacking in references and with uncertain notability. Thanks.Tomintoul (talk) 14:21, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I am acting on behalf of User talk:158.28.225.226 who asked on the WP:REFUND page. They gave this statement: "Guitar effects pedal manufacturer, now defunct, with previously sold pedals becoming very expensive and high prices demanded in the boutique and second-hand market." It was previously deleted with a PROD process, so I undeleted it and removed the prod tag. Anyone can challenge a prod. There were some references despite what your prod statement said. If you really wish to delete this, you must use the WP:AFD process. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:43, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

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Minto pyramid principle

Hi Graeme. I see you restored this. However, after reviewing the sources, I thinks it's extremely spammy. It's also a creation by a very multiple sock. Perhaps it should be deleted after all. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:27, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

I will see if G5 should apply wHen I check the investigation. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:47, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

deleted. You may wish to block or check user Editlets who asked for restore. These checkuser pages are too complex for me to use. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:10, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll look into Editlets. I admit that SPI is complex, especially this case, and aren't everyone's cup of tea. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:21, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

SPI filed. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:57, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Confirmed and blocked. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:37, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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Not a troll

I am not a troll. Please restore my comment, and retract your attack against me. My comment was an attempt to draw attention to an ongoing problem. Jehochman ^Talk 13:11, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

I've reposted my comment in a way that does not use irony, since that obviously went over the head of at least one editor. Jehochman ^Talk 13:13, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

I was considering whether to just close off the discussion or just remove the comment.. The reason I called the comment a troll comment was that it was obviously designed to stimulate an argument. Especially since a recent RFC on the subject was closed, I did not appreciate starting an argument on the topic again. I think that the discussion on that talk page way exceeds the importance of the problem, which is now over. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:47, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

I think that there's a general problem of home page content having certain topics over-represented, possibly including Gibraltar, mushrooms, professional sports, and video games. I'd like to start a broader discussion about how we can encourage home page diversity, to make our site more pleasing to a wider audience and encourage more editing. Jehochman ^Talk 21:28, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

M60-UCD1

FWIW, Yobot added the underlinked template. -- 76.65.129.3 (talk) 04:38, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

thanks, sometimes I get riffed by useless tags. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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External Links notice on MDG_Achievement_Fund

Dear Graeme,

First thank you for helping with the page MDG_Achievement_Fund. There is a notice at the bottom saying "This article's use of external links may not follow Wikipedia's policies or guidelines.". Does the link to the official homepage not follow the guidelines? Could the notification be removed?

Thank you very much in advance.

Chriz the wiz (talk) 15:48, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

I removed it as official site is a fair use of the section. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:05, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Online Ambassador Education Program

Hello, Graeme! Would you be willing to be the online ambassador for Education Program:Louisiana State University/GEOL 4066: Plate Tectonics (Fall_2013)? The students have appreciated your expertise in previous courses and I am sure this semester would enjoy your insight as well. Thank you for the consideration, BJC 15:15, 10 October 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by B.J.Carmichael (talk • contribs)

Thank you for helping out with the course! We look forward to your insight. 20:04, 10 October 2013 (UTC)BJC — Preceding unsigned comment added by B.J.Carmichael (talk • contribs)

Feedback on Page

Hi and thank you for the rapid response! I will definitely look into adding a section with the Kubler index as well as other prior methods. Also you mentioned leaving the sandbox. I am not yet a wikipedia pro, so i may or may not have messed up when trying to get the page to be titled "Illite crystallinity". I hope i didnt make the page live or anything like that. Also to change the "C" in the page title to a "c" do i need to move the page or can this be edited?

Again, thanks for the reply and any other feedback is welcome!

Sosbor6 (talk) 16:23, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

REFUND

Would you like to make the formal reply at WP:REFUND#M.I.R.T.- Major Incident Reconstruction Technologies, as I actually deleted this article? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:25, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Dark Vengeance

There were many films with that title, but this one was only theatrical movie (1992). Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 10:25, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Well User:Leszek Jańczuk you are welcome to make this into a disambiguation page with all the entries. That would be more useful than nothing. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:32, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Why not, but please delete redirection before. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:42, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Borinic acid

Just found this article. Nice work and nice to see a new well structured article with references for a change! Two very small queries- references to binderx xx what are these? Secondly the old 1950's reference about hydrolysis that you quote actually refers to the hydrolysis of diborane, and said a plausible explanation of the kinetic data was that BH3 was the reactive intermediate. Axiosaurus (talk) 12:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

I had better expand out the binder references, they are references to the thesis. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 19:27, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

there is some debate at iron(II) hydride you may not be aware of. It is just BH3 and GaH3 all over again, the articles misleadingly read as if the amphotericity refers to the molecular form but any references (as expected) go back to either the dimer (in the case of BH3 and GaH3) or complexes. As an afterthought I know of one iron(IV)trihydride complex, I can try to dig out a reference if you are interested.Axiosaurus (talk) 07:25, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I found one at doi:10.1073/pnas.0604402103. But I don't expect that I want to write about it at this time. However if you find substances like CF3ClF4 or SF5ClF4 or other trifluoromethylhalofluorides, that would be exciting. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:24, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Guess what, I found that perfluoroalkyliodine(V)fluorides and perfluoroalkyliodine(III)fluoride sexist, like CF₃IF₄ Trifluoromethyliodine tetrafluoride (de=Trifluormethyliodtetrafluorid). This is in the category of organic polyvalent iodine. There is also the [(C₆F₅)₂IF₂]+ ion with BF4-, 10.1039/DT9740000119 10.1021/ja01039a039 10.1002/zaac.200700499 (iodonium salt) 10.1039/dt9740000509 10.1002/zaac.19976231206 Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:51, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

CF₃IF₂ Trifluoromethyl Iodine Difluoride: PMID: 11195384 10.1021/ic980503u 10.1016/S0022-1139(00)82874-2 10.1002/zaac.200800269 10.1002/(SICI)1096-987X(199909)20:1 (F=2,4 and 6) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:59, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Will keep those in mind. currently working on nitridoborates- nice examples of pi bonding or are they! Thanks for the iron hydride intervention. Axiosaurus (talk) 11:05, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Noticed on your page "jj coupling" as a possible new article - however this famous science fiction author (aka John R. Pierce) already has an article! Axiosaurus (talk) 11:39, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment

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Possible recommendation for a GA article to FA status.

Hi Graeme Bartlett. Your user page seems to indicate a faith-oriented background which may provide good editing experience for related articles. I am thinking of recommending a page upgrade for a GA article to FA article status which may involve the reading of one book review if this might be possible for you. The book is the popularly received "Evil and the God of Love". Any possible interest? AutoJellinek (talk) 17:46, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Well I can read a review, and topic sounds interesting enough. But where is the article? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:57, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Graeme Bartlett. With appreciation for your quick response. After my note, I noticed that Amazon books currently has a free ten page preview available of the book itself. Also, if you have JSTOR available at your desktop then there are two book reviews available on-line:

http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdfplus/40021034.pdf?&acceptTC=true&jpdConfirm=true

This is for Prof. Puccetti's essay titled "The Loving God" in the journal titled "Religious Studies", Vol 2, No. 2, Apr, 1967, p255. A second book review is also on JSTOR and is by Stanley Kane titled "The Failure of Soul-Making" in the Int'l Journal of Philos, Spr. 1975, p1. Either one of these should be sufficient, and possibly you could let me know what you think? AutoJellinek (talk) 18:07, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

I can see the page 1 only at Jstor, however I can give you a clue that I have never had anything pass at FA before, the only thing I have done is prevent an article from being demoted! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:41, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Graeme Bartlett. This all sounds good and better that you state it at the start. The essay is at GA in good shape and a strong review should be able to get it within an FA nomination. This is the ten page Introduction to the book by John Hick, Evil and the God of Love, on Amazon Books by this url (just single click on the page cover image):

http://www.amazon.com/Evil-God-Love-John-Hick/dp/0230252796

Also, the complete book review is available on the following url by a single click:

http://www.sewanee.edu/philosophy/interlocutor/archives/2009/Climenhaga.pdf

Between the two of these links it should be sufficient for the review upgrade purposes if the material looks like it is of interest to you. Possibly you could let me know what you think of them? AutoJellinek (talk) 14:57, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Graeme Bartlett: Only a short update from last week. If you have had a chance to look at the review above, then maybe the FA review can start. Of the two choices now, if you think its ready to nominate it (the Ireneaen theodicy page) for FA status, then i will put {{subst:FAC}} on the top of the article's talk page, fill out the "initiate this review" form, then i'll put {{Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/name of nominated article/archiveNumber}} (with the appropriate name and number filled in) at the top of the list on WP:FAC. You can then put your reviewer/edit comments there. Otherwise, if you'd prefer to see a "formal" peer review first, WP:PR is the place i will go first. Any preference for option one or option two? AutoJellinek (talk) 17:43, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

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Books and Bytes

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Thanks

Thanks for approving me for AWB. Have a great day. - WPGA2345 - ☛ 19:35, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Louie Simmons

Thank you for undeleting the article on Louie Simmons. I have added some references to the article to demonstrate the notability of the subject, and will work on adding references to substantiate the descriptions of the Westside Barbell method. 75.180.29.69 (talk) 02:17, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Please check the pending registeration request on WP:AWBCP

There are 6 pending requests on WP:AWBCP. --Kc kennylau (talk) 13:12, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

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Articles for Creation: David Marks (politician)

According to a comment that was left on this page back in 2012, Councilmen do not typically receive Wikipedia pages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/David_Marks_(politician) However, Baltimore CITY (not County, in David Marks') Councilmembers all of pages. Where is the discrepency? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skahl7180 (talk • contribs) 18:08, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

You can read an essay on this WP:OTHERSTUFF. Since you are registered you can also create the page David Marks (politician) and take your chances. WP:POLITICIAN explains the criterion I used. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Blocked user Johnnybee99

Hello. I noticed that you blocked Johnnybee99, so I thought I'd point you to his tag-team buddy when vandalising, Jlaramore1999. Because he has earned a block too. Thomas.W ^{talk to me} 20:29, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

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Please de-authorise AWB of User:ChrisGualtieri

Please remove the AWB authorisation of User:ChrisGualtieri. He's recently been warned by multiple editors about disruptive editing without effect, and acknowledged it by deleting the warnings from his talk page, then proceeded to make several hundred more edits without visible effect, in blatant and wilful disregard for the AWB rules of use and the requests and then demands of the community. Josh Parris 07:45, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

I think there has been a misunderstanding here. And that is partly my fault. The edits which are shown to "convict" me are actually WP:CHECKWIKI Fixes. Specifically Checkwiki error #61, reference before punctuation. It has consensus, it impacts the page, it is specifically mentioned in WP:MOS as MOS:REFPUNC. Many of the edits include additional fixes. Such as LATISM – Orphan tag, multiple issue tag, #61 [1] Lateralization of brain function, #61, spacing per mos, spacing after punct for ref. [2], K-epsilon turbulence model – link text same as link, #61, false br, pipe in external link, uncategorized tag added [3], Joe Lamont, fixed broken link, added persondata, #61 – [4], Jessica Mauboy - #61, reforder, combine duplicate ref – [5]. While far from being the greatest edit in the world, it has consensus and even Yobot routinely fixes these. I'd also like to note that the issue Josh Parris brought up was not repeated and I did actually bring the discussion up at User_talk:Magioladitis#Questions after Parris's warnings while I was offline. I am not angry over AWBs removal, given the appearances, but I would like it restored as the edits which resulted in its removal do have consensus. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 00:14, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

ChrisGualtieri asked me to comment here: I would suggest the following: ChrisGualtieri please do not remove any comments from your talk page and assume good faith in people critising some of your edits. Please user more informative edit summaries to at least display your main goal each time. I also suggest that you start doing some typo fixing with AWB to slow your edit rate. I also think that there was a misunderstanding on this last series of edits and I personally encourage editors to fix pages according to the Manual of Style but you need to be more careful in the future. It's up to Graeme Bartlett to restore the AWB access. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:45, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

To be fair, I had a rough day and I backed them out it out when I saw Lucia Black's post at the end. I didn't realize the template substitutions were not covered by any consensus yet and I did not repeat the edits that caused concern - but I suppose it my method of relaxing, which I find such fixing to be, caused some issues. I compiled with the warning; but I was not in the mood to argue or fight - in hindsight it was better to leave it and make a post of acknowledgement because I doubt Parris read the other post on your page as to my inquiry. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 00:53, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

It sounds to me as if everyone is being constructive. So I will certainly consider restoring AWB for ChrisGualtieri. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:45, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I await your decision. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:36, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

I had already re-enabled it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

• Ah, thank you. I won't be doing CHECKWIKI stuff for a bit; got a few GANs that need tending and several more 16 hour days ahead of me. I go to work early and come home late and leaves very little time for Wiki. Three weeks down, three weeks left. A library sale tomorrow looks promising however and I tend to get sucked into content pretty big when I'm happy and go deep into AWB fixes when I am stressed or sad. How I wish I had university access still. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 03:33, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Stayfree Page

Hello ,

We would like to add the content in the stayfree page for women cause in India . Johnson and Johnon India would like to add more information about the women period cycle and how to maintain hygiene in these days . We have tried to add the content but rejected by the wiki administrator , so i thought to contact you to get help for approval of the content . Please can you help and guide us for approval of the content .Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Getdpg (talk • contribs) 13:58, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for El Tigre Fault, Argentina

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DYK for East Antarctic Shield

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DYK for Earth's internal heat budget

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Link fix

Hey Graeme. I almost never touch another user's post, so I just wanted to let you know about this red link fix. By the way, I just noticed that there's a post addressed directly to you here. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:25, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that it was probably worth fixing. It would have been a copy and paste error on my part, as I did have the AFD open on my screen. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:33, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Earth's internal heat budget

Hi Graeme, thank you for your helpful feedback that made Earth's internal heat budget a stronger page. Cheers, Bryan Bkilli1 (talk) 02:57, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Erosion and tectonics

Gatoclass (talk) 18:09, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Illite crystallinity

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File:Icarly-logo-2.png

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DYK for Karakoram Fault System

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DYK for Growth fault

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DYK for Geologic History of the Chiricahua Mountains

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WP:AWBCP

Sorry to hassle you here, but would you mind reviewing my request at WP:AWBCP? I want to do some trials to learn whether AWB would help what I believe I will need to do soon (Template:Convert is likely to be switched to use Module:Convert that I wrote, and there will probably be hundreds of issues pop up in error tracking categories because the module does much more error checking than the templates). Thanks. Johnuniq (talk) 23:45, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Semail Ophiolite

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File mover

Hello Graeme Bartlett! Could you clarify on what you said at Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/File_mover#User:EuroCarGT. I do have familiarity with file moving policy. Any comments would be helpful! ///EuroCarGT 00:45, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

The problem that I saw was asking to rename files that have almost the right name. The policy says do not rename. Renaming files is usually disruptive for reusers of our content, so there has to be a good reason to rename, such as a useless, misleading or offensive name. Having quotes, diacrigics or a spare .jpg are not enough reason for a rename. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:50, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Graeme! I try to find misleading, offensive, cruel, degrading and etc. (file names that might fall under WP:CRD or WP:BLP violations) files, but it is very hard, especially at the upload log, when I see a file that needs to be renamed, that is misleading I place the {{Rename media}} template ASAP and later on it gets deleted under the file speedy deletion policy (most likely due to improper source, permissons or copyvios and etc.), so you probably didn't see it there in my file contributions. Also it is quite hard in finding misleading titles in files since I might not have knowledge in the subject. I requested the file mover user group so I could help in renaming files, although my file contributions may show I don't have familiarity with the policy. I do understand it well as like other policies and guidelines. ///EuroCarGT 01:12, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks taken care of. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:16, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Request page protection for FIFA World Player of the Year

Hi Graeme, repeated vandalism (almost always by ip user) on FIFA World Player of the Year article. It's a page that should go pretty much unchanged (the award is no longer called that) but unfortunately it does. Requesting Page protection as it should take care of it. Cheers.Chie one (talk) 15:51, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

WP:RFPP is the page to ask this if you want speedy response, but I have protected this for 1 year. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:03, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Oil cleansing method

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Unreviewed feedback

All these articles you've enabled AFT on have month(s) old unreviewed feedback. I see that you're reviewing something now, are you going to regularly review feedback from now on, or how is this behaviour of yours consistent with the RfC? --Nemo 12:39, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of River bank failure

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WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

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DYK nomination of Hydroamination

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Possibly Unfree File Noted November 7

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DYK nomination of High pressure terranes along the Bangong-Nujiang Suture Zone

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The Wikipedia Library Survey

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DYK nomination of Captodative effect

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DYK nomination of Tilted block faulting

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Thanks for the alts. Please see question on DYK nomination page. Yoninah (talk) 17:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

page deletion

Hello I am writing to find out why my page was deleted. The page name is Taipei Adventist American School. It says it was deleted for copyright infringement. I guess i don't understand what was wrong with the page as it was information about our school. If there was a problem perhaps i could fix it and then improve the page before it gets deleted.

Thank you Jkhogg (talk) 02:19, 12 December 2013 (UTC)Joshua Hogg

The problem was that it copied writing from http://taas-taiwan.com/?page_id=2 We require that the text is free to copy. The school website did not grant us a free license to copy it. If the school web site is yours you can put a CC-BY-SA-3.0 license on it of you want Wikipedia to be able to have a copy of text from it. Else you are welcome to rewrite in your own words. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:23, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Holiday Cheer

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thanks for clearing the mystery message and the trout! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:54, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

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DYK nomination of High pressure terranes along the Bangong-Nujiang Suture Zone

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• Also, an update on the status of Template:Did you know nominations/River bank failure would be appreciated, given that the semester (and class?) is probably over. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:59, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Chinese calendar, Lunar Nodes and history

This article is up for AFD. In advising its author did you not see the completely nonsensical nature if the article?  — TimL • talk 11:47, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Water-gas shift reaction

Hello! Your submission of Water-gas shift reaction at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 18:34, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK nominations in danger of being closed: action needed

Graeme Bartlett, four of your DYK nominations are in imminent danger of being closed, since you have not responded to the most recent comments there (some two weeks old) or to the notifications here. Some of these may be for classes that have ended, so we'd also appreciate knowing whether the issues are unlikely to be addressed soon. These include:

• Template:Did you know nominations/Tilted block faulting
• Template:Did you know nominations/High pressure terranes along the Bangong-Nujiang Suture Zone
• Template:Did you know nominations/River bank failure
• Template:Did you know nominations/Water-gas shift reaction

Thank you for your prompt response. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:40, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Sweet Sound

FYI, I see that you declined the G5 CSD on Sweet Sound. The other major contributor is likely a sockpuppet of Jb423.- MrX 23:17, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

I am going to have to hear more of a justification than that, does the blocked user create copyright violations or hoaxes? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't know. I was following the guidance in WP:EVADE. Blocked or banned editors are not allowed to edit or create content. In this case, the article probably also fails WP:NALBUM. Of course, this is all moot now because Kww has deleted the article.- MrX 00:13, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

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notability

Graeme. I seem to be getting the message that a 19th century person being the subject of a book and of an encyclopedia article does not show they are notable and that encyclopedias are not reliable sources of information. I've been editing a long time. All these years I've had it wrong? Set me straight, please. Dlohcierekim 03:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Kalani Hilliker which you declined was then deleted by Malik Shabazz. I am willing to restore if you think this has a chance. (and I have moved a certain AFC page to main space). Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:46, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

No. I restored the CSD on 2nd thought. But thanks. OOO, it was ready? Thanks. Can I move 'em myself when ready? I know I've been pretty of-and-on for last 8 years, but I think I can do it. Cheers, ` Dlohcierekim 11:46, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

If you have the tools to work at WP:AFC then why not? The main requirement is "move". There is a good gadget to help with review that you can pick at preferences. But if it is declined already or not submitted, then it does not work and everything has to be done manually. It might be counted as edit warring if you counteract someone who declined an article, but I think our reviewers are too ready to reject contributions. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

That over readiness has me in a tizzy right now. I see rejected submissions about subjects that are clearly notable in well supported proto articles. Dlohcierekim 16:56, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

BUT,if I improve the article before moving, and it's my assessment that the article has become ready, then it is not edit warring. Dlohcierekim 16:59, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes if you improve, but are not confident, you can click submit to get someone else to review it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:31, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

G5 deletions

I've noticed a number of G5 declines from you recently with edit summaries indicating that you do not feel that being created by a blocked or banned editor is sufficient reason to delete an article. Creation by a blocked or banned editor that is violating a block or ban is sufficient reason to delete an article. If you personally do not feel comfortable processing G5 deletions, please do not interfere with the deletion process by removing the tag: just let it sit until another administrator processes it. If you think that G5 is a bad reason to delete articles, then get a community consensus to rewrite WP:BLOCK, WP:BAN, and WP:CSD. I don't think you will get far with that.—Kww(talk) 21:35, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

G5 deletions do not have to take place if the article is a benefit to Wikipedia. Nominators for G5 are often not supplying sufficient evidence that the article was created problematically. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:57, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Insufficient evidence for you to delete, perhaps, but those are personal criteria. To delete under G5, all that is necessary is to demonstrate that the article was created by an editor that was violating a block or ban. There are no other criteria for a G5 deletion. As I said, if you feel that G5 should have additional criteria, it's certainly reasonable for you to attempt to gain consensus to modify the criteria. If you have qualms about processing G5s, it's perfectly reasonable for you to skip them when processing speedy deletions. What isn't appropriate is for you to interfere with the deletion process or tell editors that G5 has additional criteria. It doesn't. The criterion is simple and direct:"Pages created by banned or blocked users in violation of their ban or block, and which have no substantial edits by others". There's no mention of copyright violations, hoaxes, or that the existence of the article needs to damage Wikipedia in any way.—Kww(talk) 22:15, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Spambot block reasons

Can you explain the meaning of "spambot (insert nonsensical word here)"? Parallel ocean (talk) 22:18, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the different nonsensical words are distinguishing different spambots. Recently I have used "hello" for the spambot that says "hello and by". |The ron spam bot says "My name is Ronald". DO you want me to have a user page that explains all my codes? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:31, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, a userpage with explanations would be good if you can be bothered to make one. If the only reason you don't make one is because you think people don't care, I do. Parallel ocean (talk) 22:55, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

OK see User:Graeme Bartlett/spambots Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:57, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Is the Chatah photo strange?

I never saw it.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

It is OK, but we nothing about where it came from. It was uploaded by user Ronchatah, 480x716 pixels, He is looking to his right. wearing a blue jacked, green jumper and tartan tie and whitish shirt. Actually it is on commons: Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:42, 30 December 2013 (UTC) .

Thanks, wonder why it didn't show up for me, was redlinked.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:43, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Captial .JPG instead of .jpg. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:28, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:37, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Tilted block faulting

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sinclair Hood

Graeme, how do I get a grip on Google Scholar to source articles/show notability? Dlohcierekim 20:01, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

google scholar is likely to have more reliable sources. The draft still does not have independent sources though. So you may need to find writings that reference Hood and see if they cover the person and not just his work. Though mostly you do not get to see content, so you have to still look in a big library to read the actual content. News sources may serve you better. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:18, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

thanks. Dlohcierekim 22:06, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/High pressure terranes along the Bangong-Nujiang Suture Zone

Graeme, Orlady has posted further comments since your most recent post to the nomination. Can you please stop by and address the issues she raised? Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:25, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I just made my own post there, trying to determine where the nomination stands. Please comment soon. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:31, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I replied to your question at WP:AWBCP

Just letting you know I responded to your question at the AWB checkpage. --MrScorch6200 (t c) 23:24, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Captodative effect

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Would you like to OA for a Molecular Biology course project?

Hi,

I and User:Keilana are OAs for a course project in Molecular Biology, taught at John Hopkins University for the upcoming Spring, 2014 semester. We ran the same course last semester, and you can check out the course page. I will be putting together the new course pages (two, one each for two sections) for the upcoming semester in the next couple of days.

We are wondering if you would be willing to help with this. Mostly, it involves hand-holding and answering questions for students who are new to Wikipedia. However, we also hope that you would be able to help review articles as they become mature, during the review cycles in units 9, 11, and 13. Here is an example review by Keilana.

Depending on how many other OAs we get, we'd be asking for commitment of between two - four reviews for each of those three cycles, and each might take about an hour.

Would you be able to help with this? If so, could you please let us know as soon as possible? Thanks! Klortho (talk) 03:52, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Great! Thanks so much for volunteering! I will set up the course pages very soon -- I need to get the final section numbers from the professor. In the meantime, do you mind letting me know your email? We try to do a lot of communication on-wiki, but sometimes, group emails between the professors and all the OAs are a lot more convenient. If this is okay with you, shoot me an email at voldrani(at)gmail.com. Looking forward to working with you! Klortho (talk) 06:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

OA for Development of the Terrestrial Planets

Hello @Graeme Bartlett: Would you be interested in serving as the OA for Development of the Terrestrial Planets during the Spring 2014 semester? This is a course taught by User:Aagwebb and has similar elements as the Plate Tectonics (Fall 2013) course. If so, could you add yourself to the course page? Thank you very much for your support! B.J.Carmichael (talk) 20:33, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for taking care of that so quickly. I hadn't used AWB in months and with my decreasing edits and interest in Wikipedia I won't be needing it anytime soon. Kumioko (talk) 22:23, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

WP:REFUND

You do know that 88.104.27.18 announced his intent to disruptively request REFUND of a crapload of G13 deletions on Jimbo's talkpage, right? ES&L 12:18, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

I do now. It is not so disruptive, just a bit of time wasting! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 19:44, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Footy in Oz

Thanks. Would you do the same for other sections, where personal interactions are the main - if not the only - focus? --Pete (talk) 20:26, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Self-requested blocks

Hello, Graeme. For some time I have been considering possibly adding myself to Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to consider placing self-requested blocks. Before doing so, I thought it might help to see what a few of those already in the category think about a few matters. I should be grateful if you would give me an idea, via either talk page or email, of your ideas on the following questions.

1. Why do you think it is that such requests are commonly refused? (Obviously, in a way this is more suitable as a question for admins who are not willing to consider placing self-requested blocks, but you may have some thoughts on the matter.)
2. Some admins in the category have a list of requirements for such blocks, but as far as I can see you don't. Do you actually have such a list? If not, do you just take the line "I will block you if you ask me to", or would you refuse a request unless you thought it was suitable?
3. In your experience, how often, if at all, do you get such requests?
4. Do such blocks ever cause problems of any sort, and if so, how? JamesBWatson (talk) 15:28, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

1. I do refuse some requests. The reason may be that there is no reason given. Another possible thing is that the person is already under a cloud and discussions are already taking place about a ban, then I let that run its course.
2. I will decide on each request as it comes. They are not so common for me to have any criteria, and you are the first to suggest that I could have a written list available.
3. There might be one request per year.
4. I don't know of problems. The person might change their mind and email to be unblocked. But you just consider why they asked in the first place then! It is no big deal, and I think you would hardly notice the difference in your life by adding that category! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 19:41, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Continuous Spam Links

I can that there is a spammer who is continuously spamming wikipedia by adding spam link for soapboxing and advertising. Please check all contributions of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vishal1811 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.202.64.220 (talk) 16:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps he is a paid editor. However not everything is a spam. Also he is warned, so see if there is improvement. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:55, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

NIAMA-REISSER Technology Article Help

Hello there. I would kindly like to ask you to read the article in its entirety and give three examples of advertisement in the article. I have edited the article more than four times now. One admin undeleted the article once before, but Trivialista and Tokyogirl, etc. other users believe it still to be advertisement. The Columbus Dispatch wrote an article about it. The C. Dispatch is the biggest Newspaper in Ohio and the article was on the cover. The company was in TV broadcasts, where reporters reported about the tech, etc. The company showcased their products at a booth at the geneva auto convention in Switzerland. The Article was written in a way to show how the technology works. To my knowledge there is no sentence or phrase contained within the body of the article that coould allure advertisement. Regardless, maybe you can help me and point out the sentences that would deem it so, if there are any. I am new to wiki and haven't contributed anything other than the article. There are many articles like HuettlinKugelmotor, EcoMotors, FelixWankel that are written in the same fashion and style. I believe to get singled out here. Maybe you can help. Thanks, for your time

I wonder!

Hi, Graeme. Thanks for your edit of the xenon monochloride article. But, I wonder why you changed the confidence interval of 5% on line 433 edit of 30 January, to 95%. While reading the length of the article, you'd have noticed that it was written with that figure, 5% confidence interval, as target for every experimental result. I wonder why? Can you please give a scientific explanation? NB: could you send me a Talk because I might not be notified when you post the reply here, or notify me when you do. Thanks Emekadavid (talk) 20:40, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, Graeme. I am also a student of statistics, or maybe was, some years ago. I feel though I should leave the figures as-is. It could be an idiosyncrasy of french scientific practice or of this research in particular. On a casual read, you'd notice that the original french source uses 5% throughout. I'd propose I change your edit back to 5% and leave it as-is. If you disagree with me, then I'd go to google forums and ask some chemist or physicist about it. Thanks. Emekadavid (talk) 20:57, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

I've talked to materialscientist. 21:22, 31 January 2014 (UTC) Emekadavid (talk) 21:25, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

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Blocked user

How do I contact you to get unblocked ie where is your email? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.145.177.192 (talk) 17:47, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

If you log on, you can see "email this user", eg on User talk:Graeme Bartlett or at Special:EmailUser/Graeme_Bartlett. If emailing this has not been blocked and you set your own email address in preferences, you will be able to send. Also read Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks and if your email is blocked see Wikipedia:Unblock Ticket Request System. I will not see your request on that last system. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 19:41, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

[Fe/H]

Yes, check out Metallicity :) An "[Fe/H]" redirect to Metallicity would be useful for search engine visibility, but might be a little tedious to make, given the special characters...

Thanks, I can link it with a pipe, but redirection so far give me a bad title. I will try unicode next. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:37, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

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Intro from molecular biology class

Hello Graeme,

How are you? I just wanted to introduce myself, I am a mother of two,an 3 yr old boy and 6 month old girl. After being out of the biotech industry for over four years now I would like to go back being more educated and hopefully this biotech program will help me do just that.- Mishasubz (talk) 07:57, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Introduction

Good Day Graeme! My name is Adam and I'm a part of the Molecular Biology class at JHU. I wanted to stop by and say hi. Hope everything is going well and have a great day! BigA726 (talk) 15:20, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Introduction

Hi Graeme,

It is nice to meet you! Thank you for being an online ambassador for our course. I'm in the Molecular Biology course, Section 82 (SP14)at John Hopkins.

Best regards, Catwell99 (talk) 01:26, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser request

Hello, I'm Kkj11210. I was the user who recently made a request on the AutoWikiBrowser page which you've declined. First of all, I was wondering if the types of edits were necessary for approval of the page. The Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage states that only 500 mainspace edits are necessary. But in the case that the types are distinguished, I would like to explain my reasons for the contributions and the request for AWB

I would like to use AWB to perform main cleanups of Korean articles. For instance, the first goal that I've set was using AWB to change the outdated address systems to newer systems, which I've discussed here. I believe that AWB can help a lot with that. Moreover, there are other general cleanups like the cases above which AWB will really be helpful with. Following the idea, I've been mostly doing vandalism reverts because I was waiting for the AWB access. If you look at the 500th to 1000th contributions, you can see that I had been contributing to Korean articles; I've stopped since I wished to start general cleanups first, then move onto individual articles. Please reconsider your decision and leave a message. Thanks! KJ ^{click here} 03:19, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Soccer in Australia

Can you explain your removal of my comment on the above talk page, while leaving the previous one which discussed my "sheer ignorance" (three times) and my " narrow mindedness", among other things? I have tried incredibly hard to keep discussion polite in that thread in recent times, and that other editor, Orestes1984, has been doing precisely the opposite. He will take delight in you removing my comment and leaving his (along with several others where he abused me). He will count it as a win, and refer to it in future battles as proof that this place disapproves of my position in that discussion. I believe that your action will just encourage his already bad behaviour.

Note that I'm not too concerned about my comment being removed. It didn't add to the conversation as a whole. It was a hope that we could all get closer to the point. Removing my comment in isolation is the problem. HiLo48 (talk) 21:27, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Since this involves me let me discuss this:

Firstly, while knowing full well I am talking with an administrator and pushing a rock up hill... Oh well, such is life, as they say.... You have pushed me to the point where I simply do not care what consequences my actions take when it comes to dealing with you as you are impossible to deal with as an editor, it really does remind me of some of the editors over at Macedonia naming dispute and other similar pages on Wikipedia where editors hold such a conservative religious (see your dictionary in the sense of feverent support for one side), based view on their opinions that any discussion leads to a "flame war" and so I simply avoid these parts of Wikipedia to prevail my own sanity... Congratulations, that really does take a lot of effort.

Secondly, I don't count this as a "win" it is most definitely not a "win" and as noted by other administrators, you really shouldn't see this as a childish "win," "lose" situation.... the fact that you see this as a "loss" is indicative of how you deal with these situations which is little better than school yard children's bickering. You simply either do not know how to resolve conflicts in an adult manner, or simply do not care to. I don't deal in life in terms of "win" or "loss" but it seems Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian rules football takes great pride in their "win" by enforcing the name soccer on a sport they broadly have little interest in to the point where they attempt to enforce their meat puppetry in article name disputes in New Zealand here a country that is not even relevant to this ongoing dispute. You may wish to see the userbox here here to see what I'm talking about.

I look at the end game and if that involves calling it for what it is, in spite of the consequences then so be it.... Unfortunately it's the narrow minded Australian mentality to see riling someone to the point where they don't care about what they say anymore as a "win" and if you want to look at it from a childish perspective, then you are the winner HiLo48, so congratulations!. As it says on my talk page I simply do not care for people who game the system like this --Orestes1984 (talk) 02:44, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

In this case I am just trying to control users attacking other users. I may have missed some messages, and if the only purpose of the article talk page messge is to attack someone else then it can be removed. Just complaining is not a reason to remove, but may be a reason to close the discussion. Please stick to the topic of the article page. I won't be closing any discussions I have participated in. You can tell my point of view, but currently I am just acting in a neutral way and not trying to promote one point of view above another. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:00, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

It really is impossible here to deal with this in a civil manner, I do think this is a matter that needs to go to ArbCom, but I can't honestly be bothered taking it there myself --Orestes1984 (talk) 03:04, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Before ARBCOM take this on there must be attempts to sort this out, but I don't think there has been much effort on this yet. The simple thing for those that have had enough is to take a short break from Wikipedia, or move to a completely unrelated topic in order to destress. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:11, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry Graeme. I didn't think he was stalking me so closely as to follow me here. I won't bother you any more, because it seems it will only cause someone else to bother you as well. HiLo48 (talk) 04:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

LOL.... I actually came here for similar reasons as you did after noting the involvement of an administrator, please drop the childishness it is completely inappropriate.... As I said elsewhere I am not playing any games --Orestes1984 (talk) 14:43, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

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help on citation

how are you doing Graeme,

would you be able to give me some pointers on my citation? i am really new to using wikipedia.

I made two article citations in the sandbox. Thanks Misha SubzwariMishasubz (talk) 13:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

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RevDel request

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Well that revision has not copyrightable additions, I assume the one following is the relevant one. So I have revdelled those with the content. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:25, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Graeme, thanks for introducing yourself to me. I'm new to Wikipedia editing. I would love to visit Austalia someday. There are so many cool and intersting things there that I would love to see, such as the stromatolites in Sharks Bay or some of the great fossil beds. I would also love to see the southern constellations and view alpha centauri b for myself. Molecular biology is pretty awesome and I'd love to tell you about it. I may need help with a few Wiki things. For one thing, when I was practicing in my sand box I tried to use the Cite button but I couldn't pull up any articles or books from it like I saw in one of the tutorials. Alpha centauri b (talk) 14:57, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Uploading chemical compounds/organic compounds/synthetic compounds

Hey Graeme,

I was trying to upload an image of a molecule "Aminoallyl-UTP" from Chemcyte however, I don't think I did it right as it will be deleted. I wasn't sure how it works with chemical structures because it isn't art based and thought if I was going about it in a conservative manor it would be ok, I'm not sure how this fits into wiki as anyone can draw the same compound easily (even better if I knew how to write in SVG). Regards, Crandel5425 (talk) 02:03, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Help with class project

Hi Graeme, I was wondering how you view another users sandbox page? I'm supposed to be working on an article with my class partner in our sandbox area. I can see her user page and talk page but not sandbox. Also, if we are working on an article in our sandbox, is there a way to bring the whole article into the sandbox or do people just copy and paste the parts they are working on? Thanks for your help. Alpha centauri b (talk) 00:18, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Graeme, I am Alpha Centauri b's partner and I'm also having a trouble viewing his sandbox. My partner has worked on the article in his sandbox but for some reason, I cannot find it. Is the following address right hyperlink to his sandbox? Thanks in advance. Androidhu (talk) 20:14, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alpha_centauri_b/sandbox

Another RfC on naming

Please see the further RfC here. --John (talk) 17:34, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5pm

Ref deletion discussion on : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#https:.2F.2Fen.wikipedia.org.2Fwiki.2F5pm Hi, I want to thank you for supporting my point of view at the deleted page discussion. Jermey, the one who actually deleted the page, has also accepted that “I don't have admin tools and thus can't see deleted revisions.” Will it be possible for you to rescue that page, so that some editors may correct the problems... It will also help keeping this important list complete: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_project_management_software - it is a great resource for people researching PM tools.

Thank you in advance. 76.182.87.119 (talk) 14:11, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Suhib Almasmoom: help with class project

Hi Mr. Graeme first of all i want to thank you for your responses regarding my topic i really appreciate that second i have a problem in my sandbox, i made made some changes to the page but it did not show up when i press show preview or when i saved the changes. the section 'background information' is written in the edit page but it did not show up in the read page can you help me with that? URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suhib_almasmoom/Devana_Chasma_Rift_Zone thanks again for you time and best regards thank you !! suhib almasmoom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suhib almasmoom (talk • contribs) 03:53, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Need your assistance please

Hi Graeme! With the time change I figure I am catching you at a wakeful hour and was hoping I could ask for your assistance in helping me make my wiki page go live. Are there many steps? I am in the Terrestrial Planetary class at Louisiana State University and my page is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eblamble/sandbox Cheers! Eblamble (talk) 05:41, 4 April 2014 (UTC)Erica

references disappeared

Hey Graeme! Sorry to bother you again so soon--I found the move button and I'm gonna take a minute to do that--seems simple enough. My issue is that my references are not all there when viewing the page as saved--on my edit page there shows 11 under provost which is correct yet on my save page only 7 are seen, although the numbers are listed throughout---can this be fixed somehow? it quite crazy how half are gone :( Sincerely, Erica Eblamble (talk) 06:09, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

1937 Series DYK

Hi. I've replied to your comment regarding the missing ALT2 ref for Template:Did you know nominations/1937 Series (banknotes). Mindmatrix 14:04, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Your nomination succeeded! So no need to stress over alt2. I really need a response from the DYKers that have no hook that passes the check! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:01, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Ground Continuity Monitor

Hi there. I am a fairly new contributor of Wikipedia. I thank you for you acceptance of the page that I submitted. I put a lot of effort into learning about something that I (previously) knew very little about; and it seemed right to compose a Wiki page about it. I am interested in ways to make it better. I am reluctant to cite references to commercially available GCM products, although these do present a large cross section of the information available, due to the nature of the product. Any recommendations? Thanks! Vinnyroddy (talk) 15:41, 8 April 2014 (UTC) Vinnyroddy

Unsure about adding Reaction Image

Hey Graeme,

I'm concerned about this reaction that I'll be uploading to the aminoallyl nucleotide page. Its difficult, like I said before to not use pay sites, however I'm unsure if this reaction scheme would violate copyright laws. science direct link with abstract image

Let me know if I've inserted this image correctly into wiki.

Regards, Crandel5425 (talk) 01:33, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Guinevere Planitia

The DYK project (nominate) 10:06, 11 April 2014 (UTC)