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Worship of Ninigi

This question is obviously about Shinto.

So Britannica claims that Ninigi is no longer venerated. I’m not entirely sure if I misread or misinterpreting it but, it kinda implies he’s no longer widely worshipped. Any thoughts on this?

Source here https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ninigi

CycoMa (talk) 04:51, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CycoMa: He's definitely still a Shinto deity, being the principal object of veneration at, for instance, Kunimi Shrine in Gose. If I were to make an excuse for the Britannica article, it would be that it is contrasting the level of popularity of one deity (Ninigi no Mikoto) to that of another (Ōkuninushi no Mikoto), and Ninigi's popularity obviously suffered more from the abolition of forced veneration of him by the entire population of Japan; Ōkuninushi, on the other hand, was always an important folk deity. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:58, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Low work, high reward project

There are many articles that incorporate public-domain content (often a LARGE amount of content) from Library of Congress country studies. Instead of having proper citations to this material, they have only a generic {{Loc}} template at the bottom. I am trying to work through these citations to replace them with proper book citations, like the following for Japan.^[1]

^ Dolan, Ronald E.; Worden, Robert L., eds. (1992). Japan: a country study (5th ed.). Washington, D.C.: Federal Research Division, Library of Congress. ISBN 0-8444-0731-3. OCLC 24247433. This article incorporates text from this source, which is in the public domain.{{cite encyclopedia}}: CS1 maint: postscript (link)

Here are the articles I identified on a very quick runthrough as related to Japan, along with an Earwig report comparing each to the text of the Library of Congress country study. With this information, you can add footnotes to the article. Here is an example of one I did.[1] I think it's helpful to at least add the page numbers to the footnote I supplied above, which can be determined by looking at the earwig report itself. (The number follows the text of the page.) Occasionally it is necessary to revise the article so that it matches what the LOC source says, in case there have been intervening unsourced revisions. Once you have added the footnotes, you may remove the {{Loc}} template. If the earwig report does not find any copying, please let me know and don't just remove the {{Loc}} template. For some of these, there may be a different country study the content is coming from (e.g. Vietnam for Japan-Vietnam relations), or some other uncommon situation. Anyways, hoping that one of you might be interested in helping out with this effort. Thanks! Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:40, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Worklist

Discussion at Talk:Fujiya Co. § Rename?

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Fujiya Co. § Rename?. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:44, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help identifying public art

Anyone know anything about this statue in Marunouchi Central Plaza, Chiyoda, Tokyo? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:51, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's the "Statue of Love" (or Agape) referred to here: 愛の像 (if you google search for 丸の内口駅前広場 & 愛の像 ...), Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 17:23, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maculosae tegmine lyncis, Thanks for taking a look! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:34, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorting photo/image requests

There are over 850 articles listed in Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Japan. They need to be sorted into appropriate subcategories using the instructions found on the project template page. Any help is appreciated. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:58, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hasekura Tsunenaga FAR

I have nominated Hasekura Tsunenaga for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. RetiredDuke (talk) 17:58, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Recent moves of Japan-related pages

Hello all,

I have no opinion or expertise on this, but as an FYI, User:AichiWikiFixer has made a lot of moves of Japan related topics over the past two months, generally moving articles titled SomeCityName, Prefecture to just SomeCityName (example: Toyone, Aichi to Toyone). They don't explain why in their move summary - not linking to a consensus or policy page or anything - and doesn't seem to respond on their talk page either. See Special:Log/AichiWikiFixer and Special:Contributions/AichiWikiFixer . Are these moves fine / endorsed? If so, I'll be quiet, although even then, this user should really explain themselves when making these moves... SnowFire (talk) 05:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this is a topic that has been discussed quite a few times before and the discussions have often been a bit contentious. In some cases, a WP:BOLD page move might be OK if it's one that's fairly obvious and is unlikely to be challenged, but undiscussed page moves can be reverted per WP:RMUM and a discussion started on the relevant article talk pages about the move to see whether there's a consensus to do so. Perhaps an administrator like Nihonjoe, who's familiar with the topic and also relevant procedure, could take a look and see if these moves are OK. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:26, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If they are moved because they don't need the prefectural disambiguation in the title (because there aren't any other towns or possible primary topics other than the municipality), I see no problems. However, the user does need to be explaining themselves in the edit summary. I'll leave a warning on their talk page (and I see others have expressed the same concerns there). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:53, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Nihonjoe. Perhaps your "warning" will slow them down a bit and cause them to adjust their approach; however, the previous warnings they received didn't seem to have much affect and didn't slow them down one iota. Anyway, if they don't adjust their approach and continue motoring on as before, I think they're going to eventually end up at ANI for WP:IDHT reasons.

On a side note, their user talk page is really hard to read. I asked about this at WT:UP#Background color, and I'm wondering if their choice of color is really OK. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Marchjuly: I left a note about the color choices, too. Hopefully, that will help. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:24, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion of the Colonize University Redirect at WP:RFD

Hello WP Japan, can you take a look at the redirect Colonize University at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 22#Colonize University? I'm not sure if it is an accurate description of the University or a confusing, inaccurate term. --Lenticel ^(talk) 04:09, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Dolan, Ronald E.; Worden, Robert L., eds. (1992). Japan: a country study (5th ed.). Washington, D.C.: Federal Research Division, Library of Congress. ISBN 0-8444-0731-3. OCLC 24247433. This article incorporates text from this source, which is in the public domain.{{cite encyclopedia}}: CS1 maint: postscript (link)

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