User talk:Nedrutland

Roughton, Norfolk

Hi, I just have seen your addition to Roughton, Norfolk; any source for Einsteins visit there? Pommes104 15:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Several sources. (I first heard the story on BBC radio)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/features/insideout_einstein.shtml

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/features/story.aspx?datetime=28+Sep+2005+11%3A21&tbrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Features&category=Features&brand=EDPOnline&itemid=NOED28+Sep+2005+11%3A23%3A14%3A200

http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/dept/education/learningresources/factsheets/portraits/fs_j_epstein_albert_einstein.pdf

Ned

Aleksis Dreimanis

Hi Nedrutland,

I noticed you addition to the Dreimanis article. I'm going to remove it for now. Please feel free to add it back if you have a reference to confirm.

We have to be diligent about sourcing all our references, especially for living people. Clerks. 17:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't see your concern here; the Baltic University in Exile was established for Displaced Persons in Germany and was at the DP camps in Hamburg and then Pinneberg [1]Ned de Rotelande

de Bernales

re [2]. Thanks for clarifying that. I recall when I wrote it that the material I had was a bit confusing about which school it actually was. —Moondyne 07:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

CdB was only at Uppingham for less than a year.

Ned de Rotelande 21:45, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Seaton Viaduct

I think you're getting confused between Seaton viaduct and Welland/Harringworth viaduct. Seaton viaduct is the separate structure to the north of Seaton that carries the existing line over the dismantled line to Uppingham (see this map). This is confirmed by the Quail Railway Track Diagrams, Volume 4: Midlands & North West (ISBN 0-9549866-0-1). It may be that local residents refer to the Welland viaduct as Seaton - if you can provide citeably evidence of this it may be worth adding. I have some other statistics about the Welland viaduct, which I'll add tonight. – Tivedshambo (talk) 06:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Turks in Bulgaria

Thank you for your edits. I've tried to edit the article myself before but got reverted w/o explanation, no matter the stated source - the US Congress Library. --Petar Petrov 18:36, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Thorney links

While you seem to be editing this page and removing my links I was wondering why you are choosing to overlook other commercial links under the same heading which to my knowledge are also profit making ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moreteyne (talk • contribs) 14:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Grell

Cheers for the message, yeah read it in Private Eye in the lastest copy which said she no longer work for Nick. I'll put the ref in when I get home and i can see the details more clearly. Philbentley 09:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Isle of Wight

I think we (Wikipedia) had the claim about Rutland prior to the QI episode was broadcast, but I don't deny that it might have been added by a QI elf during their research. Still it strikes me as not being an unreasonable claim - what with a coastline of c. 92 km, it would only take approximately 50m on average between high and low tide to make the Island larger than Rutland.

Anyway - just though the fact that we got there first might be of interest to you. :: smile :: --Neo (talk) 12:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I find the factoid extremely dubious. Calculation of area would normally be based only upon dry land i.e. the high tide figure.

As for your comment about got there first well you only had a sheriff and lord lieutenant in 1974 you Johnny-come-latelies!  :: smile ::

Ned de Rotelande 12:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

William Brampton Gurdon

Hi Nedrutland, just a general query really about where you got the name details from? The name I added originally was from Rayments peerage: [3], which is normally quite reliable. cheers - Galloglass 20:39, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Slovenia#Biodiversity

I'm sorry, but the first part (genus) of scientific names of species is always capitalized. Like Daphne blagayana instead of daphne blagayana. There is also a consensus to write common names of birds capitalized (see Wikipedia:NC#Animals, plants, and other organisms). --Eleassar ^{my talk} 09:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Ill Met By Moonlight

Before we both get into 3RR problems, can I suggest that you take you objections to the bolding of names in the "Cast notes" sub-section to the talk page. I'm always happy to discuss formatting questions. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ^{(talk / cont)} 08:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I see you have had a run-in with Ed. I have initiated a WP:RfC regarding his continual disregard for the style guidelines here if you wish to comment. Clarityfiend (talk) 17:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Medeshamstede

Thanks for your copy editing, do keep it up! Nortonius (talk) 14:31, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

And thanks for adding categories: just a thought, and you might well know this, but Medeshamstede/Peterborough spent about a thousand years in Northants. before it became part of Cambs. I've no idea what that means for the 'Monasteries in...' categories though, maybe they only need the current position? Nortonius (talk) 07:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Gyrwe

I've created a talk page for Gyrwe, which you've modified recently, with a question you might want to answer. Cheers. Nortonius (talk) 13:26, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Billy Barker was Cornish

Just noticed your edit at Barkerville, British Columbia from a while back; he may have been from Cambridgeshire but all BC histories describe him as Cornish; ethnically Cornish only, but enough of a Cornishman that all his contemporaries described him that way. Are you sure there's no Cornish ghetto in Cambridge? :-) ??Skookum1 (talk) 03:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Walter Padley

Hello, Nedrutland

I notice that you have categorised Walter Padley as a British conscientious objector, but you have added no detail of such objection to the body of the article. Have you any detail, source etc?

Mountdrayton (talk) 01:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Not the firmest evidence; at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jt.williams/lh/events.htm I had found this about the Ealing Acton by-election "Walter Padley was an industrial organizer with a large amount of support from the shop stewards at Napiers, an engineering firm located in Acton Vale. During the war he had been a conscientious objector believing the war to be imperialist in its aims. However he had also been rejected by a medical board for military service on the grounds that he suffered from asthma." Ned de Rotelande 06:00, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hanley Grange

Hello Nedrutland Thanks for your contribution to the Hanley Grange entry - we have a wiki at stophanleygrange.org.uk - I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have to help get this off the mark - regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.84.0 (talk) 20:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Rutland Scouting

Hi,

You seem to know something about this. I have seen one site that suggests the Rutland is now a District in Lincolnshire. Is that right or is it still a separate County? Whatever the answer is, is there a source we can use on wikipedia? --Bduke (talk) 12:44, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

• separate county (again) - the main entry for Rutland is correctMajor-General Clanger (talk) 14:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but what main article? Scouting in East Midlands#Lincolnshire Scout County has Rutland as a District in Lincolnshire. That is the article where it should be discussed. The real point is that whatever Rutland is, we need a source. Original research is not allowed. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:08, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Sir Robert Pattinson

Thanks for the correction re: Kesteven County Council. I thought I had the correct reference in an earlier version which I cut and pasted into the article when I was editing it but obviously not. Mind you with editing pieces about Robert and Samuel Pattinson and Winfrey etc. I am not surprised I got a bit mixed up. Grateful for your oversight. Graham Lippiatt (talk) 19:10, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Re Biggles

Dear Nedrutland,

regarding your undo of my amendment to Biggles page regarding flight training. Seething is not a fictional place. It is in fact a Norfolk village and aerodrome South East of Norwich. The aerodrome was base for Liberator Bombers of the USAF 448th Bomber Group of US 2nd Air Division, a museum still exists in their memory, see www.seething-airfield.com/history.php.

My alteration to Seething linked to the village page on Wikipedia, the previous link to 'Settling' linked to a chemical reaction(??)

Regards,

Nick Sims —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.137.152.21 (talk) 10:32, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Nick,

When I undid your revision my note was "Fictional place I believe (- unless you can cite))" by which I meant Settling (like Frensham, Lincs) was a fictional base. I accept Seething is not fictional but I understand the Biggles books (which I do not have) refer to a training school at Settling. If you can cite a source that he trained at Seething, please supply a reference. As far as I can see, Seething airbase only opened in WW2.

I agree that Settling should not be wikilinked.

Ned de Rotelande 11:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

I have now found the reference: "It was an aerodrome, or, to be more precise, the aerodrome of No. 17 Flying Training School, which was situated near the village of Settling, in Norfolk."

Ned de Rotelande 11:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

References

List of Grade I listed buildings in Rutland

Many thanks for adding. Have tweaked links, mainly to improve categories. You've probably seen the flickr group England's Best Buildings. Perhaps I'll see you there.Major-General Clanger (talk) 14:16, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Gothick or Gothic

I have learnt something today, Gothick is a word! - Thanks for correcting. MortimerCat (talk) 23:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again for correcting, its nice to know there is someone proof reading. MortimerCat (talk) 07:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Nevill Holt

Ross never went to Nevill Holt - I know, I was there. He was brought there by a friend at Uppingham on a Sunday afternoon. Also, nothing in the referenced article backs up the assertion he was a pupil. Question therefore is - why the undo of the change? 85.210.109.127 (talk) 18:51, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

The change was not undone. Ned de Rotelande 07:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Leonberger

I rather liked the (admittedly peripheral) reference to "The film starred Rutger Hauer as John Thornton and was narrated by Richard Dreyfuss." They did a wonderful performance (I know this isn't an Oscar nomination, and I think it deserves mention. But I'm not ready to edit war or change this to the point of insistence. Think about it. Otherwise, your edits were very helpful. Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 18:33, 3 June 2009 (UTC) Stan

Ian Cundy

Hi, thanks for correcting me. Probably I was influenced by the German equivalent to funeral service - "Messe". Best wishes and thanks again. ~~ Phoe _talk ~~ 13:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Frieda Harris

Hi. I did quite a bit of editing on the Lady Frieda Harris page, seemed to be full of editorializing and need for clarity. Checked many of your edits, and they seemed very good and helped the page when it was in even worse shape. If you could spare a few minutes would you look at my edits and see if I went too far or not far enough in the areas I worked on. Harris is such a major figure, and to give her the best and most accurate page possible seems appropriate. Thanks, Aleister Wilson (talk) 00:31, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Mayor of Uppingham

Stop vandalising the Uppingham Page

Stop vandalising the Uppingham page with unreferenced edits and deletions without specifying a reason. Please refer to WP guidelines before editing pages in future. 88.111.250.88 (talk) 17:23, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Of course you are right; the mayor of a small English town is a Ghanaian heptathlete. See here - UppTC members

If you want to be taken seriously, stop hiding behind an IP. Ned de Rotelande 17:56, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Stop posting outdated links and vandalising this page. Thank you. 88.110.165.14 (talk) 23:08, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Nedrutland is a well known vandal of wikipedia

Get ready for your undo ban! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.133.133 (talk) 23:56, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Still nothing better to do than vandalize,eh?

I suspect Nedrutland has never even been to Uppingham... 90.241.177.72 (talk) 11:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Mayor of Uppingham

I have posted the following on the Uppingham discussion page:

"There has been a revert conflict between several numerical IP addresses and me about the name of the mayor. The IPs maintain that Margaret Simpson is mayor and initially linked to a Ghanaian heptathlete of that name. Lately the IPs (one of which has been blocked) have offered a supposed supporting reference but the cited source http://www.uppinghamonline.co.uk/ does not support their claim.

There is a Margaret Simpson in Uppingham, a retired primary head whose husband is a town councillor[4] and former mayor, but she is not the mayor nor a town councillor.

The current members of Uppingham Town Council are shown on the town council’s website; http://www.uppinghamtowncouncil.co.uk/page3.html and http://www.rutnet.co.uk/pp/parish/detail.asp?id=12&page=5 which show that the mayor is Karen Senogles and this is confirmed by news reports, for example http://www.rutland-times.co.uk/news/Housing-development-officially-opened.5258382.jp from this year."

Ned de Rotelande 12:33, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

About Lawrence's payments for being beaten

Since it seems you are the only editor insisting in keeping the paragraph in the article can you produce an ordinary citation on that in the text in order to prove the existence of such a speculation. Thanks, --Factuarius (talk) 20:38, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Anna Span

You removed a couple of references here without explanation. Please use the edit summary to explain this sort of action. Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 17:06, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Alfred Cattell

You replaced Cattell on his article as a councillor rather than a Lord Major. The cite given sates Lord Mayor, he is also listed under the Lord Mayor of Sheffield article as Lord Mayor of Sheffield in 1917. Do you have any evidence to challenge these entries? FruitMonkey (talk) 16:53, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

I did not alter Cattell to councillor rather than Lord Major - I added the category Councillors in Sheffield to the existing category of Lord Mayors of Sheffield. You do not become a mayor of a borough out of nowhere. Ned de Rotelande 07:55, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Apologies FruitMonkey (talk) 16:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

River Welland

Thanks for the various corrections you have made to this article. Do you have a source for the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle date of 921, please? Bob1960evens (talk) 14:46, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I took it firstly from Barrie Cox (The Place-names of Rutland; p3) but then checked it on the 'net. Thanks for your major expansion of the Welland article (and for mentioning a distant relative, the Chief Engineer of the Welland Drainage Board). Ned de Rotelande 09:22, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Ned, just noticed your addition of first names to Rutland and Melton (UK Parliament constituency). I would love to be doing this as a matter of course but my reliable source (Politics Resources) has only initials. Do you have a source I could be using? As it is I'm keeping first names for people with links, but losing I'm first names if I regenerate the election entry for someone WP hasn't heard of, as I've no source. Quite happy to redo these if there is a reliable way of doing so. Thanks. Crooked cottage (talk) 23:37, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ferenc Békássy

Hello! Your submission of Ferenc Békássy at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --BomBom (talk) 10:31, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Philip Hamond

Thanks for this superb new stub. But please explain: what had the Rector of Stiffkey done to make Hamond so angry? The Straits Times article cited seems to be too politely restrained to go into detail on this. Thanks, Gurt Posh (talk) 10:21, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

One suggestion is "Davidson's fall from grace began when he tactlessly demanded that an influential parishioner, Major Philip Hamond, must buy the land around the grave of his first wife if he wanted to tend it." "Defrocked rector was 'unfairly vilified'" Guardian, 18 September 2004 (His first wife had died 1926)

In 1930, Davidson missed the Remembrance Day service. Hamond, who had disliked Davidson since he refused to allow him to be churchwarden in 1919 and had had several further altercations with him since, was 'incandescent with rage' and accused Davidson of insulting the war dead.

One could imagine that a ex-army officer would not take to a theatrical, flamboyant leftie! Ned de Rotelande 11:06, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Fascinating stuff, thanks. Gurt Posh (talk) 11:10, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Air-tractor sledge

Is there a reason you reverted my anti-vandal revision on Air-tractor sledge? SPARKZY 07:32, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes - error. Was attempting to remove vandalism in the form of 'rude' words Ned de Rotelande

Thanks. SPARKZY 07:37, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Church of St Michael and All Angels, Christchurch

Newspaper reports only seem to support "only Anglican church" (that qualifier "Anglican" may be implicit in the church's website). I've suggested an alternative DYK hook, which may also clarify the importance of timber. -- 202.124.73.243 (talk) 10:06, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks; I had suspected that might be the case but couldn't identify where to look to check. Ned de Rotelande 12:39, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

It may well be the only Church, but you can't say that without a solid reference. -- 202.124.75.75 (talk) 13:14, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Church of St Michael and All Angels, Christchurch

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rupert Matthews (politician)

The article Rupert Matthews (politician) has been proposed for deletion because, under Wikipedia policy, all newly created biographies of living persons must have at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:35, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Robert Browne (Brownist)

Re article Robert Browne, I have been researching this subject for over six months. Could you please explain why you have deleted my amendment? Charles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.213.196 (talk) 09:10, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Because it was from a numerical IP, was a wholesale replacement, it appeared a cut & paste job, lacked references, did not comply with Wikipedia manual of style and was tagged "references removed".

I then saw the article was in need of improvement and started work on it. Why don't you sign in, Charles, and join the work? Ned de Rotelande 09:19, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Will do! Thanks Charles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.213.196 (talk) 09:21, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

May Hill

Great improvements! I think we should pat each other on the back. Now just the birds and the rocks to reference. Another day, perhaps. Best, Brian. Bmcln1 (talk) 15:11, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Ha ha

HAHAHAHA!!! Thanks! I assumed it was vandalism. Daniel the Monk (talk) 14:15, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

György Konrád

I'd really appretiate if you'd stop whitewash György Konrád.

The references are there. They are refering to hungarian press, but you can follow the links.

If you don't understand hungarian, than you're welcome to use google translate. If you don't know how to use google translate, please call google helpdesk.

If you whish, I can provide you with adresses for Hungarian for beginners courses, so you can understand the language, but do not stop the free flow of information. Anonymus is watching. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hurvinek (talk • contribs) 08:22, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Hodson

Dear Ned Rutland, hello. Reg the change of dates for WSR Hodson, are you sure of the dates pl? Is here any way we could perhaps counter check them somewhere? Thanks Khani100 (talk) 09:49, 20 April 2012 (UTC)Khani100

Pictures of Stamford

Hi, If I were to send you a few pictures of churches in Stamford would you be able to upload them where appropriate as that is sadly beyond me? Lonstan (talk) 14:29, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Stanley Holloway

Hi, thanks for the reference on Holloway, however, I cannot see him listed. Can you explain the need for it? -- Cassianto^Talk 11:26, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Now clarified by adding the page numbers. It reads; "The undermentioned to be Second Lieutenants (on probation). Dated the 9th December, 1915:— .... Stanley Augustus Holloway, Connaught Rangers."

As to the need:

• Primary source preferred to secondary,
• more precise, and
• I suspect contradicts the previous text; "immediately" when apparently 12+ months later

(The biography was probably written with more interest in show business than military history) Nedrutland (talk)

I'm very sorry, but I still cannot see SH listed on the attached PDF. -- Cassianto^Talk 16:02, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

The relevant info is on consecutive pages: 12296 AND 12297 His name is on the second. Nedrutland (talk)

OK thanks. I would remove the one that is currently on there in that case as he is not listed. I would put the second page on there instead. Failing that, add the second one as well if you can. All the best! -- Cassianto^Talk 21:23, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for John Angel (sculptor)

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Wadi Rum

Thanks for catching my mistake there. Dougweller (talk) 13:32, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Little Gidding and T.S. Eliot

At the Little Gidding article, you reference Eliot's Anglicanism and Society of Charles the Martyr adherence...I'm familiar with this, but for the purpose of footnote #9...which St Stephens? ;-) --ColonelHenry (talk) 20:16, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Ah, cut-and-paste job from the Eliot page; ref now expanded to Saint Stephen's, Gloucester Road, London (where he was a churchwarden). Nedrutland (talk) 20:20, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Catmose College

Ned,

Thank you for your edits, however we are not a specialist arts College. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkydiveMacca (talk • contribs) 08:38, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Catmose was a specialist arts college; when did that status end? Nedrutland (talk) 08:41, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Broodseinde photo

I thought those squaddies were looking a bit casual.;O)Keith-264 (talk) 12:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Burghley House

Hi Ned, I'm interested in why you revert edits that place it in Lincolnshire when the website of the house itself states that it's in Lincolshire. Do you have a WP:RS that places it in Cambs? Regards, Ericoides (talk) 10:46, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

You misinterpret the House's website. The website pages gives a postal address as Stamford, Lincolnshire i.e. the post town is in Lincolnshire but the house itself is not.

The house is in the area traditionally known as the Soke of Peterborough which has been shunted around different admin arrangements over the years (but never with Lincs). Currently it is the unitary authority of Peterborough which remains for ceremonial purposes in Cambridgeshire. Nedrutland (talk)

Thanks, very interesting. Was it ever in Northants? Ericoides (talk) 11:34, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes; see Soke of Peterborough. Historically the Lincs boundary with Northants/the Soke was the River Welland. Nedrutland (talk)

March 2013

Hello, I'm Faizan. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions to History of the Jews in Pakistan because it didn't appear constructive, instead of refering to British India, a better statement reffering to the present day Pakistan can be used. Do discuss it first, then revert any of the edits, again! Do not revert! We can discuss it, the Article is about Pakistan, not about British India. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Faizan (talk) 13:33, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes I think you have made a mistake. :-)

The article is about Pakistan, but the preceding sentence refers to numbers at "the beginning of the twentieth century" so I correctly refered to "those parts of British India that became Pakistan" as the country of Pakistan did not exist then (nor, I believe, was even contemplated?). Nedrutland (talk) 13:45, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Discuss at the talk, at article!. Faizan (talk) 15:27, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

I had! Nedrutland (talk) 15:32, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

I have replied there dude! Faizan (talk) 13:25, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

List of minor characters - Hitchhikers

Employing WP:STATUSQUO, can we discuss this at [[5]]. Student7 (talk) 20:23, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Normanton Hall

Hi - Please can you add references to your edits on Normanton Hall. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 21:45, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

My two recent edits only added wikilinks but I will look again at the page. Nedrutland (talk) 06:16, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 21:55, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

April 2013

Hello, I'm LatinWolf (talk). I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions to Norval Marley because it didn't appear constructive. Multiple articles, along with surname etymologies, state that Marley comes from Sussex, England. If you feel like this is wrong, please provide a source stating otherwise and discuss it on the talk page. Until then, do not revert any further edits as you have been doing. LatinWolf (talk) 10:29, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

I did undo one of your edits because it did not seem constructive; you removed a request for citation without providing any citation. You now claim there are "multiple sources" for Sussex; if so you will have no difficulty supplying one reliable citation. Please do not remove requests for citation in future. Nedrutland (talk) 10:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Albert Thomas Marley was English but where was he from?

Registrations of births, marriages and deaths in England and Wales are indexed on line at http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ For the 50 year period from 1837, when the indexing begins, to 1887 (after the approx birth date of Norval), in the County of Sussex there is not one birth of anyone with both the surname Marley and the first name Albert. Now possibly this is because his forenames have been transposed; in 1861, a Thomas Albert Marley was born in the district of Rye.

However in 1851 an Albert Thomas Marley was born in the district of Billericay, Essex and significantly, a Norval Richard Marley was born in Essex in 1847. Albert Thomas appears in Essex in the Censuses of 1861 and 1871 but not 1881.

A website gives further details, including Albert Thomas Marley, b. South Weald, Brentwood, Essex, England, 29 Oct. 1851, d. Colon, Panama, 1 Feb. 1885.

So, it seems that Norval's father was from Essex while his paternal grandparents were born in Rye, Sussex.

Nedrutland (talk) 13:52, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Newby pic

Hello again. I think you'll have to write an NFUR for why Newby's pic is needed in A Short Walk, or the Men-guards Who Know will be after yer... --- all the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:23, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Clive

Hello. Without admitting anything, I may happen to know that DBaK has stormed off in a huff after getting thoroughly fed up with this place and is unwilling to participate in anything much at the moment. However I am sure that he or she would be distressed that you'd taken the trouble to leave them a note which might go unanswered for a while. I conjecture that if he or she had seen your note and did reply, they might well have said something like:

1. Thank you very much for the note.
2. Well done with the N&A thing - obviously daft in its previous form; much better taken out as it has no useful refs; if someone wants it back in then I'm sure they can find a ref. :) (ahem, to A not N!)
3. It's interesting to note the story of how that came about, thank you.
4. Yes, Attlee was often known as The Major so it is significant. DBaK may have been right with his/her view that a direct mention of Clem was useful ... or maybe not. it is, after all, only one click away. "Major Clement Attlee" might read slightly oddly - so on reflection you could just leave it! Storm in teacup. :)
5. DYK: I understand that DBaK doesn't know anything about this process - sorry. But he or she might well wish you luck with it anyway, out of a general fuzzy goodwill sort of thing. :)

With best wishes from SomeAnonymousPasserAhemYesIndeed SomeAnonymousPasserAhemYesIndeed (talk) 09:25, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Chuckle! General fuzzy regards to you. Nedrutland (talk) 09:35, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Nice addition to William Willoughby Cole Verner ... I've written to Ted Brink who owns one of the sites to see if we can get a picture of the device. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 19:23, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk:River Welland/GA1

River Welland is undergoing a GAN. It is a decent article, and will meet GA criteria - though there are a few queries, and a little bit of work to be done on the lead, on the layout, and on incorporating a couple of lists into the article. The review has been put on hold for an initial seven days to allow the work to be done. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 23:08, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

This user helped promote River Welland to good article status.

Well done. Keep up the good work! SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:10, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Heritage Grades

Hi. I notice that you are applying the change from "grade" to "Grade" in some articles. Just in case you get pulled-up over this, I did present a query on which is best at WikiProject Architecture and was advised that "Grade" is the way to go. The article Listed buildings does capitalise it within, not just at the start, of sentences, and this link shows Nat. Her. using "Grade" within descriptions - here. Happy editing. Acabashi (talk) 11:02, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Burnham Abbey

I've queried one of the additions you recently made to Burnham Abbey. Please see the talk page there for details. Thanks. Grblundell (talk) 16:57, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013

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Let me guess - a sock puppet for ... Nedrutland (talk) 20:04, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Homo sapiens latinus. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Wikipedia needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. P.S. You received a warning for disrupting articles. Now you are accusing me of sock puppetry. Do not falsely accuse editors of sock puppetry. I see that you have a history of disruptive behavior, so I recommend that you read and learn the guidelines and policies. Homo sapiens (talk) 01:19, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

After his initial post here and my response I posted the following on his wall (now removed by him);

==A gentle reminder==

Wikipedia:Sock puppetry “The general rule is one editor, one account. Do not use multiple accounts to mislead, deceive, or disrupt; to create the illusion of greater support for a position; to stir up controversy; or to circumvent a block, ban, or sanction.”

Now, should I ask for an investigation of possible sock-puppetry or shall I let it rest?

Nedrutland (talk) 07:53, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Hi, Thank you so much for updating the article "Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam"!

Kamal Osama Elgazzar (talk) 16:16, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thanks for adding the missing ref to Leslie Cole - I'd lost the url and couldnt find it! Cheers Victuallers (talk) 22:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; I appreciate beer more than kittens. :-) Nedrutland (talk) 06:18, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

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Harold Davidson (1875–1937), rector of the Norfolk parish of Stiffkey (church pictured), was a Church of England priest who was convicted in 1932 on charges of immorality and defrocked by the Church. Ordained in 1903, he worked among London's poor and homeless. Styling himself the "Prostitute's Padre", his declared mission was to rescue young girls he considered in danger of falling into prostitution. In this role he approached and befriended hundreds of women, and although there was little evidence of improper behaviour, he was often found in compromising situations and his neglect of his parish and family caused difficulties. A formal complaint led to church disciplinary proceedings, in which his defence was damaged beyond repair by a photograph of him with a near-naked teenage girl. Davidson then pursued a career as a showman to raise funds for his reinstatement campaign, performing novelty acts such as exhibiting himself in a barrel on the Blackpool seafront. He died after being attacked by a lion in whose cage he was appearing. Later commentators have accepted that however inappropriate his behaviour, his motives were genuine and he did not deserve the humiliations he endured. (Full article...)

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Glen Maney

Can I ask why you've indicated that The National Liberal Party are a far right party?

If you check with the electoral commission I have requested a name change and a change of personnel. I have NEVER been a member of The Third Way and was not instrumental in any way in it's formation, it's function or it's ethos. I want a fairer society of people of all colours, religions and sexualities who are proud to be British and live by British laws and whilst actively campaigning against racists groups including the EDL and the BNP, I encouraging people from all walks of national origins to join the party and stand for us. Our membership and support reflects this. The policy document is available on the site and I'd love to hear how it is 'far right'. I'm actually considering whether your amendment was slander and I'll leave that to my solicitor to get back to me on. Kind regards, Glen Maney — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glenfunnyman (talk • contribs) 18:14, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

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Third Way

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If you do not agree with the changes, then follow procedure by contacting the leadership of the National Liberty Party and the Third Way board; until such time as this is done, and the Party agrees to you changes, I will continue to revert any and all changes to the article that you make.

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Your constant editing of this page is becoming incredibly tedious, and I do assure you that I will continue to undo such until you give up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.1.42.31 (talk) 02:08, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

I note your declared Conflict of Interest. Wikipedia is not here for publishing self-written promotional copy.

The cited material remains relevant - even if it were only of historic interest. Others may add further (referenced) material if the page does not reflect the current position. Nedrutland (talk) 08:41, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Christchurch Cathedral

Hi. Maybe we were seeing different things on different browsers. My removal of half a pair of brackets was certainly wrong, but your restoration of it to what appeared to be the wrong place didn't seem right either ... or at least not as I am seeing it! For reference, what I saw after your undo was an isolated right parenthesis on its own line between the "Earthquakes" header and its first line of text, "The Canterbury region has experienced many earthquakes etc etc". What I am now seeing is that the photo caption ends "(note the round rose window)" with the right parenthesis moved to the correct place. Is that what you are seeing also? Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 14:06, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes; it was that parenthesis in the photo caption that I restored. How strange. Nedrutland (talk) 14:09, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Your latest edit has worked. Nedrutland (talk) 14:59, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 15:57, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Apologies

Sorry for ruining your edit. The double IP abusing you and the article is User:Richard Daft, subject to WP:BAN. --HCCC14 (talk) 10:26, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Case at WP:ANI

Hello Ned. You probably should be aware of this issue at ANI as it mentions problems you had recently. Best wishes. HCCC14 (talk) 09:04, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

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It is - but harder to pin down the facts with reliable sources. Nedrutland (talk) 16:57, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

True. I read the biography a while back & that of course was written before the wartime files became available: there wasn't much of substance. Rather a tragic story, I think: when he started working for the Japanese Britain was giving them loads of assistance. I'll have a dig about & see if I have anything on his First World War career. I'm surprised that nobody had written this article already.

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A user since February 2007... does that make you a regular? If so, didn't mean to offend. Meteor sandwich yum (talk) 09:14, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Greetings... and my mistake

Greetings Nedrutland. Thanks for your note (from last January). I've only just seen it (because you left it on my userpage, not on my talk page) and have acted accordingly. I don't recall the exact reason for having changed the spelling..., but there must have been one (I can't access the references right now due to an IT hitch to check, so I'll take your word for it) because I wouldn't normally modify a diaeresis without good cause. Regards, --Technopat (talk) 10:13, 21 April 2014 (UTC)--Technopat (talk) 10:13, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Greetings again. Thanks for your note. I'll go through the article again in a while (got to dash right now) to correct the camelCase you mention. Again, I'm sure that the original reason for me modifying 'em all must have been a good one, but faced with the evidence, I have no choice but to revert to the default. Re. your apology, no problem - I only mentioned it so that you'd understand why I hadn't replied sooner. Regards, --Technopat (talk) 11:36, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Lawrence and Brass Rubbings

In fact the story is true, Lawrence did do brass rubbings as a teenager (?!?!?); maybe that only seems weird from a 21st-century perspective. Marking it as uncited would be perfectly OK though. Tim Bray (talk) 07:38, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Sorry if I am missing the point but I thought NR had removed it because it was a duplicate? It's near the start of the archaeology section, and I would not have thought it needed two mentions. As for it being weird, I dunno - if you google "brass rubbing" you find plenty of current refs to it. It's just that often now churches don't permit original brasses to be rubbed, hence the appearance of centres with reproductions. And it's the 21st century and I am (more or less) alive ... :) cheers DBaK (talk) 09:47, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

DBaK's interpretation of my motives is correct - I removed the sentence because it was covered more fully in the following section - and with a reference - and not from any prejudice against the interest. (As a small boy, I visited many a church with an older sibling who did do brass-rubbing). Nedrutland (talk) 13:25, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Robert Cawdrey

Whoops. Sorry for that, I've added the article to my bot's exception list. CmdrObot (talk) 22:19, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Bringing out the "ire" in Ireland

D'óh!. Is it the 21st century already? Clarityfiend (talk) 09:01, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

T. E. Lawrence's Brough Superior

I have placed your reference here with a note that it was on loan for a period. Leaving it out will mean that editors will assume it has been omitted in error and keep putting it back. What do you think? Britmax (talk) 12:36, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Lochnagar mine

Dear Ned, apologies for deleting your edits to the page earlier and putting you to the trouble of restoring them, I thought for a while that the article was going to be deleted now that La Boisselle is nearly finished. I have a bit more to add about 1 July from Middlebrook but nothing on commemoration I'm afraid.Keith-264 (talk) 17:14, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Time Team

You have reverted my change to the Time Team episode guide. There are multiple entries all saying Sutton Courtenay, and i assure you that one is wrong. I watched the episode on tv today and it IS NOT Sutton Courtenay. The location is Dropshort. If you still need further proof look at the geolocation link already asigned to that entry and also this IMDB page for the episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Zoidbergh (talk • contribs) 20:19, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

William H. Mounsey

Dear Sir, I understand your correction, but the problem is that in the text a little bit higher is written: Rockcliffe (as on: www.streetmap.co.uk). Why is it than here: Rocliffe? Perhaps because that is how it is done in the Morning Post? See :reference (original) Romeinsekeizer (talk) 14:39, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

While the spelling has now standardised as Rockliffe, the 1877 quotation from the Morning Post has "Rocliffe Hall"; as the quotation marks in the reference should have made clear. Nedrutland (talk) 14:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you again. I thought it was possibly a wrong spelling typing that word. Nevertheless on the Streetmap is written: Rockcliffe and not Rockliffe. I know that the last name exists for a hotel somewhere else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Romeinsekeizer (talk • contribs) 15:21, 23 January 2015 (UTC) Romeinsekeizer (talk) 15:31, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

I lost your last text. So I will try here: with: www.google.com and type: The Mounsey Family-The Hissem-Montague Family, and click on that, you will find the details. Scroll, passing ships and stop with: William Henry Mounsey (1808). You can find all the details.Romeinsekeizer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.169.52.55 (talk) 13:22, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Romeinsekeizer (talk) 13:24, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Dear Sir, What did you change the last time? I cannot find it. Thanks for your work.Romeinsekeizer (talk) 08:45, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

My most recent change to William H. Mounsey was merely "</ref>There" => "</ref> There" in your recent edit. Nedrutland (talk) 09:27, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your swift answerRomeinsekeizer (talk) 13:42, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Kind request. Can or will you change a reference? I can't do it. Too complicated for me I am afraid. It concerns the article William H. Mounse. The number is 17. Rocliffe must be Rockcliffe.Romeinsekeizer (talk) 13:15, 5 November 2019 (UTC)Romeinsekeizer

'Rocliffe Hall' is the form used in the cited source (and other newspapers). See here. A search for 'Rockliffe Hall' in that year produces no returns. Nedrutland (talk) 13:34, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your swift reaction. About the reference: I already supposed that number 17 could be all right. Recently I could not find it, meaning the paper. Normally is used: Rockcliffe (see: various sources). You changed the text for numer 20. The source does it partly without capitals, but using capitals is better within a title. I visited most of the mentioned sites in the article. It all started on Hoy where I saw the inscription and could find out who william H. Mounsey was. The sign with information came after I had informed the locals who he was. Unfortunately they made a little mistake in his surname. Romeinsekeizer (talk) 15:37, 5 November 2019 (UTC)RomeinsekeizerRomeinsekeizer (talk) 15:37, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Mounsey (the end).

Thank you for all your helpRomeinsekeizer (talk) 14:45, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

William H. Mounsey; Kind request. Can or will you change a reference? I can't do it. Too complicated for me I am afraid. It concerns the article William H. Mounse. The number is 17. Rocliffe must be Rockcliffe.Romeinsekeizer (talk) 13:15, 5 November 2019 (UTC)Romeinsekeizer

'Rocliffe Hall' is the form used in the cited source (and other newspapers). See here. A search for 'Rockliffe Hall' in that year produces no returns. Nedrutland (talk) 13:34, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your swift reaction. About the reference: I already supposed that number 17 could be all right. Recently I could not find it, meaning the paper. Normally is used: Rockcliffe (see: various sources). You changed the text for numer 20. The source does it partly without capitals, but using capitals is better within a title. I visited most of the mentioned sites in the article. It all started on Hoy where I saw the inscription and could find out who william H. Mounsey was. The sign with information came after I had informed the locals who he was. Unfortunately they made a little mistake in his surname. Romeinsekeizer (talk) 15:37, 5 November 2019 (UTC)RomeinsekeizerRomeinsekeizer (talk) 15:37, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Lionel

I really hope you can continue to help with the Lionel article. See my comments at Talk:Lionel de Jersey Harvard#Son's name. EEng (talk) 17:54, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Just to mention I've been pursuing the matter you directed me to, and hope it will bear fruit. I'll keep you informed. Thanks. EEng (talk) 16:15, 25 February 2015 (UTC) P.S. I wonder, given your discussion with another below on this page, if John Wilkins is one of your favorite people; he's certainly one of mine.

I haven't forgotten your help -- still working on this project in the background. Thanks again. EEng (talk) 13:14, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm still pursuing you-know-what. Need to go through official Harvard channels. Thanks again for pointing me to it. EEng (talk) 02:45, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Alan Craig

Hi, I just have seen your addition to Alan Craig, former leader of the Christian Peoples' Alliance

I am researching the CPA and its new party leader, Sid Cordle.

When I am satisfied that the information is correct and unbias, I'd like to upload a profile for Sidney Cordle and cross reference it. However, I do not know how to upload a new record on Wikipedia. Can you help me?

Thanks, Arnie — Preceding unsigned comment added by AFabius7 (talk • contribs) 17:48, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Atwell

Dear Ned, you are doubtless correct to challenge this epithet. My only defence for using it is that that is how V Wing himself described Atwell in the title page of the Defence of Astrologie, supposedly written in 1658 and edited in 1660 (a date I have only just corrected from the inherited mistake saying 1668). Here's the 1660 wording: "Written by the Learned and Ingenious Mathematician, Mr. GEORGE ATWEL, late Professor of the Mathematicks in the University of Cambridg; and now published by a Friend, for the publike benefit of his native Countrymen of England. VVhose Preface is hereunto annexed." This is linked to in my footnote giving the title of the Defence. It does appear to be saying that Atwell is a Prof in the University, though 'Professor' might only mean teacher in this case perhaps. You are ahead of me and I must keep up! I suppose Venn's Alumni is the next stop? Thanks for your continuing vigilance, as I am prone to such casual infelicities. Yrs Eebahgum (talk) 11:49, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. If he had been a professor I thought he should have a mention at least elsewhere on Wikipedia but couldn't find one. I did then look at Venn which only offers "Atwell, George. 'Cantab. de studio et praxi mathematicis non ignobilis': died Sept. 14, 1658, aged 82. M.I. at N. Runcton, Norfolk. Should have matriculated c. 1593-5. (Le Neve, Mon. v. 48.)". Nedrutland (talk) 11:58, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Caroline Dinenage

Hmmm, I've noticed there's a bit of a problem. I've been going over the sources for the statement that ip has tried to remove twice. Dinenage's site has been revamped, so the supporting information vanished. Normally, I'd just switch out to the archive url, but that's mangled. Annoyingly , I saw the information was there myself. and suspiciously Dinenage's site removed that page almost immediately after a HoC IP address tried to remove it from the article.

It looks to my eyes like someone is very keen to rewrite history, but as it stands we don't have a source for the claim the ip is trying to remove right now. Any ideas on how to proceed? Dolescum (talk) 01:05, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

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Wodehouse

Thank you for your patience and for sorting what needed sorting despite my confused attempts to drag a kipper across the trail. Tim riley talk 19:38, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Red Barn Murder

Nedrutland, I see that you have been asked this before, could you please provide an edit summary and not decide that I and other editors have to check what improvements you have made to the article. it is after all a simple thing to do. Thanks Edmund Patrick – confer 09:09, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Cowley (surname)

Hi, you added the name Richard Colley to the above article, is it correct? Regards Denisarona (talk) 16:57, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Whether it is correct is for others to judge but my intention was to link to Richard Wesley, 1st Baron Mornington, (who was born Richard Colley); my reasoning being that the spelling of the family's name varied between Cowley and Colley and placing Richard Colley there might be helpful for someone looking for Richard Cowley. Nedrutland (talk) 19:42, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I was only trying to be helpful. Denisarona (talk) 04:52, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

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Oldham West

Just a quick one - I have started a discussion about the now 2 disputed edits on the article talk page. Frinton100 (talk) 23:22, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Noted - and responded. Nedrutland (talk) 23:56, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Very good - noted too & look forward to your reply to my question re. watchlists. M Mabelina (talk) 01:30, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

User:Mabelina

Hi Nedrutland - I don't want to be objectionable but there is a long-running battle with two folk who seem to be Labour sympathisers and keep threatening to cite me to the Admins. It has got to the stage that I am fed up with this, and since I know my stuff, I shall present the arguments and evidence to the Admins. It is a waste of time engaging in discussion with them because it never stops. I don't know how you got involved but it has got to the stage where order needs to be restored. My apologies if you unwittingly strayed into this one. Thanks M Mabelina (talk) 23:23, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Why did you just revert without explanation (other than relying on others)? Please... M Mabelina (talk) 23:37, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry User:Nedrutland but in reply to Mablelina: WP:NPA. WP:AGF. Are you a UKIP sympathiser Mabelina? AusLondonder (talk) 23:50, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

It is good that you just did this (for reasons that should be more than apparent) - Mabelina is my name & I am not a UKIP sympathiser. I won't venture any more here. M Mabelina (talk) 23:56, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Mabelina, my reversions each referred to the official document, the SOPN. Nedrutland (talk) 23:58, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes Nedrutland but this is not a legal doc. M Mabelina (talk) 00:12, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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Papal bull

you are not going to get copies of papal bull since chanceries are now strict at releasing copies of papal bull due to possibly plagiarism, especially in social media. we have way too many devotees claiming honors and prestige when there is no proof from Rome that such are designated by the Pope or their prefects. SICDAMNOME (talk) 10:42, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

I did not ask for a bull; however, I would expect the announcement to be picked up in a national newspaper or other Reliable Source. Nedrutland (talk) 10:48, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Papa Westray

Hi Nedrutland. I have removed part of your addition to this article, as it appears to have been copied from http://www.papawestray.co.uk/papay/pw_official10.html. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:03, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

No problem; I had copied it from Triduana, not the source you have identified. Nedrutland (talk) 18:19, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

I thought it might be a Wikipedia mirror, but wasn't sure. If you could please provide attribution when copying within Wikipedia, that would be helpful; in fact it is required by the terms of the CC-by-SA license. At a minimum, you must say in the edit summary that content was copied, together with a link to the source article. For more information on this topic, please see WP:Copying within Wikipedia. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:34, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Edith Cavell Bridge

Hi Ned. I've removed your listing of the bridge from the main Edith Cavell page because it was already listed on the List of dedications to Edith Cavell page. The citation was interesting though and I have transferred that over. There are so many places, schools, roads etc named after Edith that they have been split away from the main page. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:05, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

East Anglia

I see that you reverted my edit to East Anglia. When intentionally linking to a disambiguation page, the link should go through the (disambiguation) redirect (per WP:INTDABLINK). This helps those of us at WP:DPL (along with everyone else including the bots that help us) that the link is intentional. -Niceguyedc ^{Go Huskies!} 19:03, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

St. Andrew's Priory article

Just been reading this - it looks OK, but what are the sources for all this? Blythwood (talk) 12:10, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Lawrence

Hey, big thanks for chipping in with the T.E. Lawrence cleanup. If you haven’t already, you might want to check the conversation & advice I’ve been getting near the bottom of the talk page. I’m now grinding through top-to-bottom with a stack of biographies on the table. Any input or advice would be welcome. Tim Bray (talk) 08:30, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Thankful Villages

Ned,

Hi, I have a question, and I am a relative newbie by the way. On Thankful Villages you changed the citation that I put in, from the i newspaper (by which I had meant the printed paper - not sure if that was clear ... should have given page no), to be a hyperlink to a web page of the same material (and with same date) at that newspaper's website. Now suppose that link went dead at some point, this would then be a no-good citation whereas my original citation from the printed paper would have still been good. So I ask whether the link citation is really better than the printed paper citation? Or maybe you assumed it was a just poorly written reference to the website? I realise links are handy for people... maybe there's some way it can show both ? Thanks Malevan (talk) 21:53, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello Malevan, I expanded the citation on Thankful Villages so that for the few that had access to a hard copy of that edition of the newspaper they could still find it but for the rather larger number who had access online they could find it instantly. And while some links do go dead, web archiving generally means the info is recoverable.

There is a lengthy article here - Wikipedia:Citing sources with links to further pages (such as Wikipedia:Inline citation)- which will answer more questions than you can conceive. Nedrutland (talk) 07:34, 21 July 2016 (UTC) OK, thanks Malevan (talk) 19:35, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

12th Royal Lancers

Hi - Do you have sources for the material you have added to the article on the 12th Royal Lancers. Quite a bit of the material you added seems to be unsourced. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 20:58, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

The material was carried over; citation from History of the XII Royal Lancers Stewart, Patrick (1950) now added.Nedrutland (talk) 21:51, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Great. Many thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 23:00, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Pictures

You seem to do a good job finding pictures on commons and adding them to lists of listed buildings. I have not checked if you are active as an editor on commons as well, but if you are (or maybe this would be a reason to get started) I have a request: Please also add the template for a listed building with its number to the picture in question. You find an example of that template at commons:St Michael and All Angels Church - geograph.org.uk - 376117.jpg. That would make the time you spend searching for these pictures extra worthwhile. Happy editing. Agathoclea (talk) 14:34, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

bad link @ citation # 3: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector

bad link @ citation # 3: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector P16olo (talk) 02:59, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Gerard Noel (editor)

Thanks for your editing. I am missing some of his books. Are you able to find them all please?Zigzig20s (talk) 09:43, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Nesta G. Ashworth

First, thank you for your helpful edits!

Second, I am amazed at your patience with your detractors above. I give them a cussing, then delete them.

Third, if we use British English, should we spell out her middle name, drop the period, or drop the initial altogether?

Fourth, I had no idea this morning how interesting she was, I was just filling in some Scouting redlinks. Turns out she's notable in at least 3 ways, and pivotal to the movement. You up for trying for the mainpage "Did you know...?" section?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:27, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments.

Name; what form is she most known by? I would favour "Nesta Maude Ashworth" which is the name on her autobiography.

I would hope to improve it further but, at the moment, I am unsure if we could find sufficient reliable sources for a DYK? The same would go for her friend Rotha who led an even "more colourful" life.

Any idea for when she died? Nedrutland (talk) 12:50, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

I googled for an obit, came up with this teaser: http://guidezone.e-guiding.com/liz_hist_cdnhist.htm and a pdf which I will zamzar then read.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:34, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

I found her death in Victoria, BC on Findmypast Nedrutland (talk) 13:40, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Text from the pdf: "The Crystal Palace Rally ScoutingLife.ca November/December 2008"--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:44, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Boiled down into the article, and created a new one.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:57, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

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Recent Edits in the Scott article

Maybe it's not so insignificant. There's an author who is reproaching righteous persons to have caused their deaths intentionally....--37.230.30.63 (talk) 19:20, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

The book we talked about has been removed from the article, but it is still in the general list of books under the tag "Sourcers". Since it was me who removed it could you do the other job of removing it from that list? This would be great as this will look more like the consensus it is between several users... Plus it will save some people from wasting their time and money.--37.230.13.250 (talk) 02:20, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

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Article called "Controversies surrounding Robert Falcon Scott"

Dear Nedrutland,

I would like to inform you that I have made some (much needed changes) on the awful article "Controversies surrounding Robert Falcon Scott". (The article is still full of overbearing POV claims and personal attacks) As I will probably not be available the next couple of days to look after these edits, could you take over this (small) duty? The article is still a real mess, but let's defend these small changes, at least for the moment!

With kind regards and have a good time --37.230.13.250 (talk) 02:09, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Bass Excursions

Hi Ned, thanks for contributing, but I'm literally working on Bass Excursions at this moment, so getting am getting edit conflicts. It might be best if you waited until early afternoon and looked over it when I have finished editing. Comments always welcome! Picknick99 (talk) 11:45, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

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Hey, just wanted to remind you (after seeing your edit at Gainsborough, Lincolnshire to leave an edit summary when reverting and to not mark an edit as minor unless it's reverting really obvious vandalism. Thanks. Pishcal (talk) 19:01, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

It was reverting obvious vandalism.Nedrutland (talk) 19:41, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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Inns of Court Regiment

Hi - Thanks for your edits to Inns of Court Regiment. It would be much appreciated if you could add some citations. Thanks, Dormskirk (talk) 14:43, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Shneur Odze

Have you found a source about his career in Hackney? And NB Articles for deletion/Shneur Odze. Rathfelder (talk) 17:47, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Citation for election supplied. Nedrutland (talk) 20:53, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

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Aston Ingham

In that case, you may want to also revise this article too, I guess? Thanks, n'all. (And any talk page stalkers, naturally). Martinevans123 (talk) 19:57, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Kensington and Chelsea TMO

Hello Nedrutland,

The blue link which you have inserted into the above named article about Right to Manage for tenants of Kensington and Chelsea council leads to an article about Right to Manage for owners of Commonholds and Leaseholds. A better link would be to Tenant management organisation.

Right to Manage for Tenants comes under "The Housing (Right to Manage) Regulations 1994" which does not have a Wikipedia article associated with it.

Right to Manage for Homeowners comes under the "Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Act 2002".

I have changed the link to Tenant management organisation.

I hope you approve.

Best regards.

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I approve of your change. Thank you for the explanation. Nedrutland (talk) 06:51, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

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Red Shift (novel)

Sorry if I interrupted your flow. As an unregistered editor my timestamps are at UTC (not local time) and I hadn't realised.--217.155.32.221 (talk) 08:26, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

No problem. Despite my attempts at topiary, it remains something of a school essay without sufficient sources. Nedrutland (talk) 07:28, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

In some quarters, "school essay" would be very welcome; I believe the work is a common component in the UK year 12 National Curriculum.--217.155.32.221 (talk) 09:44, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Who is Philip? Author? Academic? Drunk fellow you met in a train station? If this were your personal scholarly blog on obscure magical realism then prior knowledge of names dropped could be considered reasonable. Not a Wikipedia entry on a Young Adult novel. For now the quote will be attributed to "some graffiti on a toilet cubicle wall". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.240.37 (talk) 08:28, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

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Budapest Marathon vs Csepel Marathon

Hi, I left a comment on the Budapest Marathon talk page. I know that previously there was a claim that the Csepel marathon was the predecessor of the Budapest marathon, but I couldn't find any evidence of that. I live in Budapest and know many runners, and I also never heard anyone mention that it existed. The Budapest marathon from 1984 was the first "mass" marathon in the city, even if something existed before it, it must've been an elite competition for 20-50 people.

If you're also not sure, then I suggest we remove that paragraph from the page. Also, remove the results prior to 1984, since those seem to be from national championships (again, of elite athletes) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gcsaba2 (talk • contribs) 17:39, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Green Bicycle

Hi, Nedrutland. Regarding the second citation you requested on the above article. If you look at the difference between these revisions, you added the death date of Light's father yourself, so you must have the citation yourself? Best regards, --Kieronoldham (talk) 01:18, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

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Milo Yinnopolous

Wanted to talk to you about editing his page. it claims his party involvement includes the Alt-Right. which is false. he has repeatedly denied this and does not make any sense it still says he is. curious as to why its still up. your guidelines specifically say opinions are not published but labeling Milo as alt-right is an out right lie and an opinion of someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.201.98.2 (talk) 22:42, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Because reliable sources have said Yiannopoulos is associated with the Alt-Right; see Talk:Milo Yiannopoulos. The lede does note that he rejects this label. Nedrutland (talk) 23:01, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

ok sooo, he (milo) denies it yet its on the website.. but u said "reliable sources" say he is associated. What makes them more reliable than the actual person the article pertains to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.201.98.2 (talk) 00:54, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Green Bicycle Case

Hi, Nedrutland. Good job with the above article. I just have one question. At the moment, the article reads that Wright was employed in a role "at Bates' St Mary's Mill". Is this correct, or are two separate sources of information overlapping? Thanks.--Kieronoldham (talk) 01:31, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

St Mary's Mills was the place of employment; the employer was W. & A. Bates Ltd. Nedrutland (talk) 07:28, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks.--Kieronoldham (talk) 01:24, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

PS I thought (and actually still think) the word "successfully" should be in the lede as all the odds were against Light, with all the odds being stacked against him, although Marshall Hall's tactics/skills won over the jury.--Kieronoldham (talk) 01:43, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Arnold Leese

If not an "intellectual mentor", what kind of mentor do you think he was? Did he teach Leese to play football? Tutor him in table manners? Guide him to inner peace? No, "intellectual mentor" is completely appropriate. Please stop edit warring. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:06, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

You did not leave an edit summary. If that was your point, then reinstate one word, not revert wholesale including MoS improvements. Nedrutland (talk) 17:22, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Hothorpe Hall and Charles de Trafford

FYI, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hothorpe_Hall#Which_county JDAWiseman (talk) 11:14, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Millicent Fawcett

W-a-y back on 13 November 2016, you made an edit to this article in which you added some cites to an item 'Manton' without further detail.

Are you able to confirm, this long after the event, that you were referring to Jo Manton's biography of Millicent Fawcett's sister, Elizabeth Garrett Anderson, entitled 'Elizabeth Garrett Anderson: England's First Woman Physician'?

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Millicent_Fawcett#Missing_reference_details

Thanks in advance.

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Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven

Hello Nedrutland

I have removed claims I found on the Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven page that postulate that she is the true author of Marcel Duchamp's famous ready-made, Fountain (Duchamp) (1917) due to their WP:NOR original research. These claims, according to the foremost Duchampian expert in New York, Francis Naumann, are untrue and unproven. Should not the unverified claims be removed rather than added to by contesting them on the page? I think so, so I reversed your reversal, but please give me your input. Thank you. Valueyou (talk) 09:19, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

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Soke of Peterborough

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I have posted on Talk:Soke of Peterborough with (further) citations in support of a version of the long-settled content. I note that you have not gone to Talk to argue why it should be removed. Nedrutland (talk) 18:36, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Over-capitalization

Please see MOS:JOBTITLES and MOS:HONORIFICS. A title like duke is not capitalized on Wikipedia except when:

1. Directly attached to a name in conventional form ("Queen Elizabeth II", "President Trump", "John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster");
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They're not capitalized in constructions like "a duke of Northumberland", "the baron died in the battle", "some Ottoman emirs"; "three popes in a row died under suspicious circumstances", "how many emperors the Roman Empire had depends on your definitions of both emperor and Roman Empire"; those are all common-noun usage.

Thus, "Trump is the most controversial American president"; "a 14th-century duke of Lancaster, John of Gaunt". Many articles have this wrong and are rampantly capitalizing every title, style, even commercial job title, at every occurrence. They're slowly being cleaned up; the confusion resulted from conflicting language in multiple guidelines which was resolved with the MOS:BIO revision and merger earlier this year.

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MOS:BOLDSYN

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That "Tutbury bull-running" in the search box would direct there was not obvious and is probably not appropriate. This page, as the title suggests, is specifically about the Stamford bull run. Better to give adequate coverage of Tutbury bull-running on Tutbury (where is no mention of the bull run) or on the generic Bull running. (Possibly MOS:BOLD#OTHER was more fitting than MOS:BOLDSYN) Nedrutland (talk) 06:59, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes, but in the interim MOS:BOLDSYN still applies. I'm not sure whether Tutbury or Bull running is the better merge target. It's covered a bit at the latter; I've not looked in detail at Tutbury yet.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  04:25, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Gilad Atzmon

I saw from the edit history that you have worked on the article about Gilad Atzmon. I'm not going to edit anything because it is a protected article, so I will ask you to repair the dead links in the article and find reliable sources to replace them. Thanks.
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mismatched images of historic sites

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I noted your revert. Please be aware that these buildings have been matched on the image page through their identifier. I'm very glad that you caught the mistake, but a revert alone won't cut it, I'm afraid. If you find another of those mismatches in the future of semi-automated edits, please take a look at the image file, and remove the wrong identifiers from the image description. I did it in this case like here. Especially the category and the identifier are important to remove, to avoid future adding of the same file. Unfortunately the tool is unable to detect reverts like yours.

I hope next time you'll be able to help address the root of the problem, and that way we'll manage to avoid some frustrations :) Thanks for your checking! effeietsanders 19:49, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

St Hugh's School

Hi there, do you think it is possible to find some citation for the relationship between St Hugh's School, Woodhall Spa and Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln? There are other St Hugh's, and this is a very controversial association to make. I can see that the 'wall and ball' logo might well relate to this, but nevertheless it is very peculiar and personally I would like to know of some firm documentation, early documents from the school's founders or founding for instance. Jim Killock (talk) 13:50, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

I did look on-line some years back and did not find a Reliable Source but it seemed plausible when the design of the badge is considered. I doubt that any contemporary school would choose the link. Nedrutland (talk) 13:54, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

George W. Jones

Hey, I see you reverted the Alice Emma addition. Where on earth did that come from? I visited his grave as part of my research for the article (need to dig out and upload the photo...) so I can confirm that Eliza Sophia Ann is the name of his wife who is buried with him. I keep meaning to add more content to the article when I have time–my understanding is that his printing business interests played a role in Watford becoming a centre of printing in the long run. Blythwood (talk) 20:58, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

@Blythwood: In the Probate notice (https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=jones&yearOfDeath=1942&page=26#calendar ) Alice Emma Jones was mentioned, so I presumed that was the name of the spouse; I then noticed she was described as 'spinster" so realised the executor was his daughter, not his wife. Nedrutland (talk) 21:35, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Great, thanks. I didn't have a copy of his biography to hand so I wondered! Blythwood (talk) 11:52, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

S.S. Arcadian

I see that you reverted my change to the article on the above vessel. It was a very minor change but I believe that it was grammatically necessary. I do understand the convention that ships are called "she" and not it, but "She … that... " does not read very well. You could say something like "She was on the first leg of this voyage when her passengers..." , but my change seemed simpler - and correct. TriodeFollower (talk) 18:45, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

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Countess of Huntingdon

Such an expressive picture, thanks! Bmcln1 (talk) 12:33, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Nobody's Friends

Hello Nedrutland Nedrutland Thanks for great improvements on Nobody’s Friends page. You have shown me how to do better links in future. Great to see someone else taking an interest in developing this article. Despite being a prestigious and powerful club with long history – it had no wiki page until late last year. Perhaps not surprising that its own membership hasn't sought to create a wiki article - it is an organisation which prefers to remain rather secretive.

One question: can you let me know why you removed links to Queen Anne’s Bounty, Church of England, Hackney Phalanx, The Athenaeum in See Also? I’m trying to improve as an editor and it would be helpful to see your rationale. Is it because these things were already mentioned in the article? I’ve never been quite sure how to use the See Also section.

I know more about the Club than is present in the article. For example, how many members it now has and that women are definitely included in membership (don’t know the date when this decision was made). I managed to get some titbits of information from their current Treasurer/Secretary who is one of the senior legal officers in the Church of England. He is not publicly listed anywhere as the treasurer, but I found out from asking Communications at Lambeth Palace. And there are no citations for any information I’ve been given. I’m also aware of a Private Eye article which focussed on the Club – I know as I helped the journalist. But I can’t use that as a citation as PE is subscription only and does not post articles online. One odd piece of information … for most of the Club’s history, members apparently called all the servants by the same name (I think it was James), but presumably this has changed in recent times. Whether this reflected the culture and practice of other Victorian dining clubs and social organisations at the time – I don’t know. Hopefully more news and article references may become available in time. Nobody's has managed to stay under the radar as a forum of some influence. Once again, thanks for your improvements.Joelionheart (talk) 13:17, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello Joe,

Thanks for your comments.

'See also': Yes, it was because those links were already mentioned in the article; "As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body ... " See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Layout#"See_also"_section

I have met elsewhere a succession of holders of a post (maids etc.) all being addressed by the same name by an employer. Nedrutland (talk) 17:21, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

hi Nedrutland Nedrutland, Thanks for your reply. Helpful confirmation on the "See Also" query. I've probably made same mistake on several other pages.

Unfortunately I can't find a link-able reference to Nobody's servants being called 'James'. Thanks btw, for getting rid of all those "then"s on the Allchurches Trust page - they were stylistically awkward and unnecessary. Good to see that page develop also - with eye of an observant editor. Joelionheart (talk) 00:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

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St. James Church

According to [6] St. James Church, Hampstead Road "served a separate ecclesiastical parish [...] from 1793". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:39, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

I based my edits initially on this quotation "Flinders died at 14 London Street, Fitzroy Square, and was buried in the graveyard of St. James's, Hampstead Road, which was a burial ground for St. James's, Piccadilly." from The Life of Captain Matthew Flinders, R.N. by Ernest Scott (Chapter 27).

When St. James's, Hampstead Road became a parish church is contradicted by other sources, among them:

• "St. James, Hampstead Road [1791, cemetery chapel for St.James Piccadilly's "new" cemetery, parish church 1864]"
• "After the closure of the burial ground it was sold in 1871 to the Saint Pancras Church Trustees to become the parish church of the new ecclesiastical district of Saint James." Nedrutland (talk) 12:56, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

References

Edgar Wood Centre

Hi, I can't make your HE cites work. Have you tried {{NHLE}} for Historic England list entries? All the best. KJP1 (talk) 18:46, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Ah, sorry. Cut-and-pasted without checking the citations. Nedrutland (talk) 20:35, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Discussion on Layla Moran talk page

There is a rather spirited discussion currently ongoing at Talk:Layla Moran#Domestic Violence. Seeing as you are an experienced editor that recently edited the page, I would appreciate if you could chime in with your view, in the interests of finding a consensus one way or the other. Domeditrix (talk) 09:44, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Now contributed in favour of brevity. Nedrutland (talk) 11:16, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

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	Please can you leave the amendments up until tomorrow? I am trying to convince my teacher, it's a tradition to try and convince the teacher when you visit the castle! Thanks Thewikiman0201 (talk) 22:14, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks for your improvements to Oriana Wilson! However, I noticed that the information about where her wedding took place is uncited. Could you add where you found that? Thanks! Enwebb (talk) 12:23, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Two citations supplied. Nedrutland (talk) 12:13, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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I moved/renamed an existing (unreferenced) page to allow for a more prominent Yatton in Herefords. Nedrutland (talk) 12:13, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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Ian Lavery

I see you've noticed the sneaky vandalism of the editor just preceding you, and have repaired some of the damage, but not all yet. Look for the word consume. I have to go so I'll let you finish. Thanks! Shenme (talk) 07:45, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

External links

I reverted your edit to St Giles' Church, Cambridge where you had added a misplaced external link. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:26, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

You did more than that. St Aug's re-added with citation. Nedrutland (talk) 09:12, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

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You realize incontinence has many meanings, and that the one that comes to the reader's mind first is also probably NOT the one intended here, yes? It's unfortunate that history chose its words thus! *I* know what you mean, of course! A loose necktie (talk) 21:44, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

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So, discuss it on the Talk:Boroughby page. Nedrutland (talk) 20:03, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Clarendon Park Road

Thanks for your work @ Belvoir Street Chapel and Central Baptist Church (Leicester). Wonder if you might have any insight into question at Talk:List of Baptist churches in Leicester#Clarendon Park Baptist Church about Clarendon Park Road religious buildings, of which there are many. Specifically: Could it be that Clarendon Hall/Clarendon Park Baptist Church (1892/1894-1992) and the Guru Amar Das Gurdwara (1992) @ 219-227 Clarendon Park Road are one & same building? The dates jibe and sources seem to suggest it. (Not to be confused with Christchurch Clarendon Park @ 105A Clarendon Park Road or Clarendon Park Congregational Church). Thanks for your help.

• "Sikh Gurdwaras of the City of Leicester". Leicestershire History. September 2016. Retrieved 12 March 2020.
• "Leicester Faith Trail" (PDF). University of Leicester. Retrieved 10 March 2020. Djflem (talk) 09:32, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Responded on Talk:List of Baptist churches in Leicester. Nedrutland (talk) 08:07, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks for your work on JH, and I'll always remember your help with Lionel. EEng 18:36, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Repeating the above now, even more forcefully. Let me say, however, that we need to take great care in the selection of sources. What was "known" about JH until the late 19th c was extremely patchy and often completely wrong. In the late 1800s serious work began, starting with good genealogical work back in England to reconstruct the family history, and anything that can be relied on about JH will be in found in works from about 1880 or 1890 forward; anything before that is suspect e.g. Savage 1860. I'm afraid I don't have time right now to list the solidly reliable scholarly sources but if you ping me once in a while I'll get to it. This isn't to say you shouldn't keep doing exactly what you're doing, but be sure to cite everything carefully to the source you found it in so we can double-check later. EEng 01:59, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Eyebrook Reservoir

Why? Quetzal1964 (talk) 17:50, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

@Quetzal1964: Because the edit disrupted the reference formatting and was not an improvement. Nedrutland (talk) 17:54, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

I was fixing it, the link was dead and I was trying to replace it with the live one but I typed it too fast. I hope what I have added now is an improvement. Quetzal1964 (talk) 18:02, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Matthew Flinders

Hi Nedrutland, I've reverted your edit to Matthew Flinders - perhaps you should have read the article on Bungaree first, for his role in the expedition (Despite the lack of a common language, the indigenous people persistently sought Bungaree out to speak to instead of Flinders. And his mediation skills were greatly appreciated by the Europeans with whom he shared the ship.), as well as taking a look at this very recent article on James Cook - The forgotten story of Tupaia, the star navigator who helped James Cook reach Australia - which emphasises the similar dependence by Cook on the Polynesian navigator and negotiator who accompanied him. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 12:54, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bahudhara: I had seen the page on Bungaree and I still considered the mention of him in the lede to be undue. The lede is a summary of the content of the page and Bungaree is mentioned just once on Flinders page; the sentence reads "Here he was rejoined by Bungaree, the Aboriginal man who had accompanied him on his earlier coastal survey in 1799." Only three others are mentioned by name in the lede and there is more on those men and their significance. (Oh, and Tupaia is not mentioned in the lede of James Cook and his name appears twice on the rest of the page.) Nedrutland (talk) 14:47, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Atzmon libel costs

Hi,

Please can you explain why you reversed my deletion of the partial libel cost fundraising appeal. I did not understand the use of 'cited' as a justification. Thanks. Jontel (talk) 16:04, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

It is more appropriate to discuss at Talk:Gilad Atzmon; I have started a new section there. Nedrutland (talk) 16:47, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Lilford Hall

Hi Nedrutland I once lived at Burley-on-the-Hill,so very fond of Rutland! Anyway, note you have done a number of edits to Lilford Hall Wikipedia article over the years. Happy to talk to you about latest edits. Regards Charles Micklewright Owner of Lilford Hall — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:6399:4E00:850F:7C9D:783F:FE32 (talk) 14:42, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Just realized you are Ned de Rotelande who helped me on the Robert Browne site! Charles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:6399:4E00:850F:7C9D:783F:FE32 (talk) 14:44, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

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Sandringham House

Hi - for some reason, your edits appear to have knocked out the first image in the Architecture section. I can’t work out why and can’t seem to restore the image. Any ideas? Many thanks. KJP1 (talk) 17:28, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

I see that I had added a piped link but failed to close the brackets (]]) - now sorted. Thanks, User:KJP1, for the heads up. Nedrutland (talk) 18:56, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

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I only got told to remove "inappropriate link" and I did it. Why do you keep reverting my edits on Egleton then? 2001:14BB:410:804D:44A5:9F12:6C63:65E9 (talk) 11:12, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Because they are non-constructive and in no way encyclopaedic. Also, lack citation, employ mdy dates and are poorly written ("it's"). Nedrutland (talk) 12:35, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

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Moved comment

Stop undoing my revisions you arse — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.73.96.236 (talk) 01:33, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

I will - when they are constructive. Nedrutland (talk) 09:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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You'll see the part I added was enclosed with <!-- --> as a HTML note, in case someone found sources for it. It wasn't part of the rendered text of the article. jp×g 08:37, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, I have created the page for St Peter's Church, Empingham if you are interested. JamCor (talk) 17:54, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@JamCor: Thanks for your page creations. I think all settlements in Rutland are on my watchlist so I should notice the new church pages as you link them. Cheers. Nedrutland (talk) 11:20, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

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I quake. Nedrutland (talk) 13:58, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Jamie Wallis

My revert was not aimed at your edit but the previous two by blocked editors. However, looking again, it's clear that I misread the dates that all three were made at the same time. So my apologies - speed read leads to hasty error! But please allow me to explain my thinking at the time, mistaken as I was. The way they were done made it very difficult to see what was happening, and the editing and moving of the sentences on academic study was especially worrying, i.e.:

OLD: Wallis has a doctorate in astrobiology from the University of Cardiff, supervised by Chandra Wickramasinghe and focusing on evidence for cometary panspermia. The degree was awarded in 2014, though Wickramasinghe had left the university in 2011.

NEW: In 2014, Wallis was awarded a doctorate in astrobiology from the University of Cardiff, focusing on evidence for cometary panspermia.

Why was the Private Eye reference to Wickramasinghe removed? PE throught this important (otherwise, why even mention it?) But the moving of this paragraph (in itself, not a problem) made seeing what happened in other paragraphs especially difficult to follow. That's why I reverted, in the hope that a clearer and plainer process would make it easy to see. I gave as a rationale "there appears to have been a good deal of whitewashing going on womewhere[sic]" and while that was a possibilty it seemed simpler just to revert the lot. I notice that there have been other edits since which make things clearer. Apologies again. Emeraude (talk) 13:59, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your response, @Emeraude:. I had looked at the page in the expectation of there being some lively editing on a day when the Daily Fail was reporting his interface with a post (later confirmed by a Reliable Source) and found the page a mess so started a process of tidying.

The name Wickramasinghe meant nothing to me but I would not expect a post-grad's supervisor to be considered generally worthy of mention, particularly when he was only there at the start of the course. And I did not suppose the Private Eye would be considered a Reliable Source for a BLP. Nedrutland (talk) 15:06, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm pleased to say I didn't see that in the Mail, but it was in the BBC News website last night. I think Private Eye was questioning how someone who left three years previously could have supervised a thesis! And not just a postgrad thesis, but a doctoral dissertation, would normally be someone of more notability. The Eye is a RS. Unfortunately, it is impossible to easily access the archive. Emeraude (talk) 17:13, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Is Private Eye considered a RS - I do not see it discussed on the perennial sources pages? Nedrutland (talk) 18:15, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Foula

I have Houghton's book on the island if you want me to look anything up. I was there on a field trip in 1969 - fond memories! Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:27, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @Ghmyrtle:. I have not had the pleasure of visting Foula; my interest is only that a friend was talking about her family (the Christies) who had lived there. Nedrutland (talk) 08:03, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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The HMS Endeavor. Hi, I was looking to confirm the number of masts that this ship had. I was wondering if someone may find some importance to adding that category to the ship's description at the start of the article. Or, what can you tell us about them. I see the yardage of the sails. I shan't be placing any info. Thank you. 2600:1012:B165:843B:0:4B:7B41:201 (talk) 08:51, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

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Are you a part of any propaganda? Amansinghmurao (talk) 02:29, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

No. Nedrutland (talk) 06:26, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

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A.J. Mundella

Thanks for the edits. I have learnt something about compound adjectives today. Vortexionio (talk) 19:39, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Truth.

I refer you to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, (plus a couple of typos), in the parting comments on my Talk Page to 'Girth Summit': relief. Heath St John (talk) 11:58, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

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Wikipedia reflects the cited sources; the description of the Reclaim Party as right wing has three citations. Nedrutland (talk) 06:59, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

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I note that you are a regular editor of Mahomet's page and one of your recent edits lists as dubious his war record. This is corroborated by theForces War Records online as well as information held by the family.https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/namesearch/?FirstName=Mahomet%20Thomas&Surname=Phillips&RecordType=NotSelected&RecordDateStartYear=1700&RecordDateEndYear=2022&EnableUnit=False&SurvivedActiveService=False&DiedInActiveService=False&EnableNationality=False&ReceivedGallantryAward=False&MentionedInDespatches=False&Page=1&SortColumn=noColumn&SortOrder=noOrder

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Replied at Talk:Mahomet Thomas Phillips. Nedrutland (talk) 11:09, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Title of living person: Stephen Sizer

Hello. Just a quick note: I noticed you recently changed the article on John Walvoord‎ to change the title of a referenced, living person: Stephen Sizer. This was a minor change of his title from "Vicar" to "Priest." However, I'm noticing in the linked references for Sizer he is a retired "Vicar." Is there another reason for keeping his title listed as "Priest" or should it be changed back (and on his WP page)? Thanks FCGreg (talk) 08:32, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Vicar, along with canon, rector, curate, chaplain et al. is just one of the many roles an Anglican priest may fill. Sizer is an ex-vicar, ex-rector and ex-curate but is still a priest. Nedrutland (talk) 08:34, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

OK thanks for the clarification then. FCGreg (talk) 08:51, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Richard Coles

Before I go on a long and tedious journey into the MoS, could you kindly explain the rule prohibiting my suggested spelling of band's name? 78.104.179.179 (talk) 18:04, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Music#Names_(definite_article);

"Mid-sentence, per the MoS main page, the word the should in general not be capitalized in continuous prose, e.g.:

Wings featured Paul McCartney from the Beatles and Denny Laine from the Moody Blues."

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@Diannaa: Mmm ... hard for me to copy from a page I had not visited. I presume the material in question was a duplicate of https://www.gov.uk/government/news/britain-honours-its-holocaust-heroes which quotes Sajid Javid (then a UK Gov.t minister). Nedrutland (talk) 13:36, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

It's not unusual for the same contnet to be present in multiple locations online. Not all of the copied content is in quotation marks, so I have added a note that the copied content is available under a compatible Open Government license. You should do this yourself in the future when copying compatibly licensed material. Sorry for the mistake. — Diannaa (talk) 13:45, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt resloution. Nedrutland (talk) 13:54, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, I have noticed you have reverted my fixing of 22 accounts of the misspelling of the word "percent" on the Battle of France page. I would like to know why. DasLiedVomTod (talk) 18:04, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Because, @DasLiedVomTod:, as my edit summary indicated, the article is written in the form of English used in Britain; thus, it is wrong to claim that 'percent' was 'mispelled'. In UK English (and in Latin) 'percent' is not one word but two. Nedrutland (talk) 21:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

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Rotha Lintorn-Orman

Hello,

Following your modification, could I have the content of this publication, please?

Cordially. ―Eihel (talk) 03:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

The unedited OCR transcript of the Bedfordshire Times and Independent - Friday 27 December 1912 is poor but will give you the sense;

CHARI.ES ORMAN, here toft < d and known the name U^' vfl (Xrman late Hawley House in Parish Blackwater in County now Hawley Grange in Bournemouth late a*Major m NOTICE that the tnts'prescr.t month of Dt'cember, did, for and behalf myself and heirs lawfully begotten, formally wholly and absolutely assume adopt and determine to take and use from that day the surname of Lintom in addition to surname of Orman in all records deeds documents and other writings and in all actions suits and proceedings (both civil and criminal) well as in all dealings and transactions matter# and things whatsoever, upon all occasions use and subscribe the said surname of Lintorn in addition surname of Orman and so that I and heirs lawfully begotten may not hereafter lx* tailed known or distinguished the eaid surname of Orman but by the said surname* Lintorn-Orman only. C.l 11 - AND I furtlier give notice that a Poll bearing date on the said fourth day December instant duly executed attested and acknowledged and enrolled in the Central ►ffic© the Supreme Court of Judicature the bixleenth day of the aaui month of December, formally assumed adopted determined and intended thenceforth up«m all occasions whatsoever use and «ul>- fleribe piysclf the name of Lintorn- ... —v Orman instead Orman, ami to be. r.ll times hereafter called, known, described and lb© name Lintorn-Orman cxclusiv ely. Dated 24th day December 1912. Signed) .. EDWARD LINTOBN-DRXIAN late Edward Orman."

Nedrutland (talk) 08:58, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the response Nedrutland ;)

I'm still disappointed: on Discord, we are working on the fr article, we were trying to find out if the middle name was really Beryl, because, on the tombstone, it is Berly.

Cordially. ―Eihel (talk) 23:17, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

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Why is Peter O'toole mentioned last?

I edited the infobox to have Peter O'Toole featured first on the list, but someone put it back at the queue, "per poster billing block".

Since when is the poster the only point of reference for the infobox? I mean, there is no mention of the cinematographer not the editor, or the running time on the poster, so should we remove them from the infobox?

Peter O'Toole is playing the title character, it looks silly to have him mentioned last. Hayden41 (talk) 19:41, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

'Someone' reverted your edits, @Hayden41:, because they ignored the note "Per poster billing block". This has been the long-settled format for this page Lawrence of Arabia (film) and other attempts to rewrite the order have been reverted. If you think the page would be improved by putting O'Toole first, I suggest you raise it on the Talk page first. Happy editing. Nedrutland (talk) 08:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Trinity Bridge, Crowland revert

What source do you have that this was a divergence? - Denimadept (talk) 23:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

@Nedrutland: If I don't hear from you, I'll revert your change. - Denimadept (talk) 06:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

As you presumably have seen, I added two sources to Trinity Bridge, Crowland, copied from the River Welland page, after the initial edit of @Hairy Dude:. The Historic England citation includes these quotations:

"Triangular bridge, built in 1360-1390 by Benedictine brethren, over the tributaries of the River Nene and the River Welland"

"until the early 17th century the river Welland flowed through the village and divided into two channels under the bridge."

Also, on the Welland page you might read "During the reign of Henry III (1207–1272), complaints were made that of the two channels below Crowland, the one to Spalding was more favourable to the passage of barges, but the Abbot of Crowland had obstructed and narrowed its course by planting willow trees." I consider those to be fair evidence of divergence rather than convergence.

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@Nedrutland: Thank you. - Denimadept (talk) 02:19, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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