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01:51, 20 October 2024 review of submission by 2600:1700:6180:6290:ED8E:28D7:94A9:E4AD

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My submission was denied. Why? 2600:1700:6180:6290:ED8E:28D7:94A9:E4AD (talk) 01:51, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reason is clearly provided for you: Zero sources cited. Where did the information come from? How are we supposed to know it even exists? C F A 💬 03:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

05:26, 20 October 2024 review of submission by Logojech

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Hello Sir. Kindly assist Us to get the Page on Wikipedia. The Page is genuine and is regarding to an Indian Administrative Service(IAS) Officer who is currently Chairman of Visakhapatnam Port Authority(VPA) , one of the 13 major ports in the country. Thank you. Logojech (talk) 05:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Logojech: the sources in your draft do not establish notability, in fact they don't even contribute towards it. We need to see significant coverage in multiple secondary sources that are both reliable and entirely independent. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:02, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello DoubleGrazing. There is a Tamil Wikipedia article on the same person.Can i use this as an additional citation? https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%85%E0%AE%99%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81 Bhargavambati (talk) 11:57, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bhargavambati: no, you cannot cite Wikipedia (any language version) as a source on Wikipedia. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Logojech Who is "us"? Do you work for the Port Authority? 331dot (talk) 08:27, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hii . I dont work for Port Authority. My friend is helping me on how to post in Wikipedia. In fact, I dont know difference between Sandbox and Draft. So i thought of writing it that way. Bhargavambati (talk) 11:54, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bhargavambati: I've posted a paid-editing query on your talk page, which I would ask you to respond to at your earliest opportunity. Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:47, 20 October 2024 review of submission by 2A02:2F0F:E20C:8600:5C79:4741:C8A5:4FE9

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Hi, i'm creating to create a Wikipedia page for a friend who's a Romanian painter but i'm being denied due to the missing references. what do i need to add in order for the page to be accepted? Thank you? 2A02:2F0F:E20C:8600:5C79:4741:C8A5:4FE9 (talk) 12:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References. 331dot (talk) 12:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Specifically, you need references that meet all three of the criteria in WP:42: they must be reliable (not blogs or social media), independent (not written, published, or commissioned by the artist or his associates - including galleries that have exhibited him) and contain significant coverage of him, not just of his works). If you cannot find several such sources, you should give up, as it will not be possible to create an article about him.
And you must write in English. (The sources can be in Romanian, if there aren't English sources). ColinFine (talk) 17:36, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:10, 20 October 2024 review of submission by Pinezz

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What other sources are needed for this page? Thanks Pinezz (talk) 13:10, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pinezz: you need to tell us where the information is coming from. Of the four paragraphs in this draft, two (accounting for c. ⅔ of the text) are unreferenced. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:09, 20 October 2024 review of submission by Bolaji abegi

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The subject is quite notable what should I do differently? 

Bolaji abegi (talk) 14:09, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Accepted. Next time, take a look at WP:NPOV. C F A 💬 14:53, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:12, 20 October 2024 review of submission by Nidheshd82

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I am new to wiki and i am finding it really difficult, is it possible for someone to help us get presence on wiki for our non profit organization - Mahadev Maitri Foundation. Nidheshd82 (talk) 14:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nidheshd82: we don't get involved in co-editing here at the help desk. You can find pretty much everything you need for article creation at WP:YFA, and advice for referencing at WP:REFB.
Please note that we have no interest in what your organisation wants to tell the world about itself. We almost exclusively want to see what entirely independent and reliable third parties (mainly secondary sources) have said about your organisation and what makes it worthy of note.
You also must disclose your conflict of interest immediately. I have posted a message on your talk page with instructions. If you are employed by this organisation, you need to make the more specific paid-editing disclosure. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @Nidheshd82. The phrase "presence on wiki" indicates that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. If there is ever a Wikipedia article about your Foundation, the article will not belong to the Foundation, will not be controlled by the Foundation, will not necessarily say would the Foundation would like it to say, and will not be for the benefit of the Foundation except incidentally. Please read an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing ColinFine (talk) 17:41, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15:05, 20 October 2024 review of submission by Bolaji abegi

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I fixed all adjustments required in the first rejection. I am surprised to get another rejection..the references provided are credible.

I will like to add the I do not have a relationship with the subject rather he his very notable in my state. Bolaji abegi (talk) 15:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bolaji abegi: evidently, you did not "fix all adjustments" (sic); the draft still provides insufficient evidence that the person is notable. Please bear in mind that only elected politicans (at national or state level) are considered inherently notable, unsuccessful also-rans have to demonstrate notability per WP:GNG.
Also, the draft was flagged for promotionality. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:10, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:54, 20 October 2024 review of submission by TheBestWikiPublisher

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Denying for no reason? TheBestWikiPublisher (talk) 16:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reason look pretty clear..."Tedious resubmitting and adding non sources just website roots not sources for the claims - Also this is just continuation from the rejected Draft:3G Capital Management. Clearly only here to promote the subject. WP:NOTHERE" Theroadislong (talk) 17:00, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheBestWikiPublisher: See also the response you received here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2024_September_17#23:11,_17_September_2024_review_of_submission_by_TheBestWikiPublisher. Please stop creating new drafts, and stop moving the existing drafts to other titles. --bonadea contributions talk 17:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17:44, 20 October 2024 review of submission by KyleSettlemyer2000

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I need assistance undeleting this draft. Can someone help, please? Thank you! KyleSettlemyer2000 (talk) 17:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not deleted. Do you mean you want to resubmit it? 331dot (talk) 17:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @KyleSettlemyer2000. The draft was rejected, after being declined five times by five different reviewers.
Your only chance of reviving this rejected draft is by approaching the rejecting reviewer, @S0091 and persuading them that you understand why it was rejected, and you have suitable sources (different than those already in the draft) that meet Wikipedia's requirements to establish notability. Please don't take up their time unless you have all that. ColinFine (talk) 10:05, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:38, 20 October 2024 review of submission by Dijkstra'sDemon

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I created this page with several external references and submitted it for review. The article was rejected almost instantaneously. The reviewer could not have possible read the referenced material in such a short amount of time, so I can only conclude that the dismissal is unfounded. Dijkstra'sDemon (talk) 22:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Drmies is not reading the article he reviews and declines. There are six references in the article, five of which are not written by the subject of the page. Still, he complains that "a biography needs outside references." Dijkstra'sDemon (talk) 23:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please edit this existing section, instead of creating a new thread with each comment.
Your first source is an interview, which is not independent. The second is something he wrote, also not independent. The third doesn't seem to mention him, though I might have missed it. The fourth briefly mentions him. The fifth is a product description. The last briefly mentions him. These do not establish notability.
Drmies is an experienced reviewer; I understand your frustration, but complaining about the reviewer is not the pathway forward. 331dot (talk) 23:27, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is helpful feedback. Thanks. I have seen a lot of Wikipedia pages published about people with just a couple obscure blog posts as "references" which certainly don't rise to the level of notability that seems to be required here, but I'm happy to add a few more references that mention Lohstroh. Note that the third reference indeed doesn't mention him because it serves as a reference to a technical concept that's mentioned in the text. Dijkstra'sDemon (talk) 00:09, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dijkstra'sDemon Please see other stuff exists. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to get by us. Not every article that exists went through this process, and this process has not existed the entire time Wikipedia has. Articles can be created without being approved by anyone and can exist for decades. We can only address what we know about. If you'd like to help us, you can identify these other articles you have seen for possible action. We need the help.
We aren't looking for just mentions, there needs to be significant coverage that goes into detail as to what the source sees as important/significant/influential about him. 331dot (talk) 00:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The various sources cited in the draft article clearly explain that the famous amplifier design was due to Lohstroh and Otala. The design is discussed on Wikipedia on the Harman Kardon page. Matti Otala also has a biographical page on Wikipedia. Considering that Otala is sufficiently notable to have an article devoted to him, please explain why Lohstroh isn't. Dijkstra'sDemon (talk) 05:27, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note that the link to Otala is broken because the page is in Finnish. See https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matti_Otala Dijkstra'sDemon (talk) 05:28, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dijkstra'sDemon, in this edit you added some company's website (not independent, not acceptable) which mentions your subject once but says nothing about him, and the review you added from Hi-Fi News & Record Review might be helpful, but not really for an article about him since it contains hardly any biographical material (it's also cited incorrectly and I'm going to remove the link as a possible copyvio). Drmies (talk) 13:34, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article itself doesn't contain anything beyond the key contribution of the amplifier design, which is what Lohstroh is known for, precisely because there aren't any sources to cite. Why do you insist on biographical material from secondary sources to back up information that is not present in the article? Dijkstra'sDemon (talk) 05:32, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:51, 20 October 2024 review of submission by Jjubitana

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Why isn't my article showing up on the screen? Jjubitana (talk) 22:51, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You haven't written anything into the draft. If you have composed text somewhere, it seems you didn't paste it into the right place.
Also, you should be aware that writing about yourself is strongly, strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. AntiDionysius (talk) 22:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked indefinitely by Ad Orientem via AIV as a promotion-only account. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 04:35, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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