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Archive 74:January 2021

Unknown page

I did not create the page Pär Sundberg, which you proposed for deletion. You did send me a message about it, though. This page has never been known by me. Did something go wrong? Joostgriffioen (talk) 00:48, 21 February 2021 (UTC) Joostgriffioen

Happy New Year, Onel5969!

Happy New Year!

Onel5969,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
–Davey2010Talk 00:32, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Right back at you, Davey2010, keep up the good work. And may your 2021 be happy, healthy, and prosperous. Onel5969 TT me 00:48, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Hey Onel5969, Many thanks and you keep up the fantastic work up too!, Many thanks, Lets hope 2021 will be a much better year for us all!, Take care and stay safe mate, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 00:59, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

about GEO

We can expand this article by referring to the German wiki.--Htmlzycq (talk) 16:20, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Htmlzycq, hi and Happy New Year. Not sure what you're talking about... please provide a link. Onel5969 TT me 16:22, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Happy New Year! Gene Expression Omnibus, in the wikidata d:Q17321881.--Htmlzycq (talk) 16:27, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Htmlzycq, thanks. I agree it can be expanded, although there isn't much more in the German article. But until it is, I think the redirect is appropriate. Onel5969 TT me 16:42, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Deprodding of Kimberly Ritchie

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Kimberly Ritchie, which you proposed for deletion. Hi there! I'm a marine biologist and even though the page wasn't descriptive enough, Kimberly Ritchie's name is associated with coral microbiomes and I think an article on her would be beneficial to readers. If the author can expand on what makes her research significant, having this wiki page will be a useful link to the pages on coral holobionts and microbiomes. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Mochamedusae (talk) 18:06, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Tweiulfse

Regarding you revert in this edit.

That page was created by a new user who moved the page UP10TION discography to Tweiulfse because they were trying to move UP10TIon discography to UP10TION discography. I know that the page history shows that it was created by an experienced editor but it is clearly a test page created by a new user. Apologies if my explanation didn't make any sense. EN-Jungwon 15:27, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

EN-Jungwon, hi. When you put a CSD tag on a redirect, it has to have a clear reason why. And it needs to fall under one of the three categories at WP:RCSD, which this clearly didn't. And as a redirect, doesn't qualify for a prod. At best, it should go through the RfD process. The redirect was created by Ss112, who I can not point to a single bad redirect they've created. That being said, there does not appear to be a mention of Tweiulfse on the target page. I've pinged SS112 to see if there should be a mention at the discography. If not, then it should probably go through RfD.Onel5969 TT me 15:50, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Diriliş: Ertuğrul (season 5)

Hi, I noticed you added a copyvio-revdel tag to my article, does that mean that my article can get deleted? Limorina (talk) 14:28, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Limorina, hi. WP takes copyright violations very seriously. So be careful in the future, as if you continue to do this, you could get blocked from editing. But in this instance, no, your article will not be deleted. I've removed the part which was a copyright violation, and asked an admin to do what is known as a "revdel", where they remove the offending edits from history so no one can see them. So please be careful. Onel5969 TT me 14:33, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Omar Al-Saadoun

PE With Joe Article

Hi. I saw you just converted the PE With Joe article to a redirect due to lack of notability. I disagree with this. While I agree the article didn't have sufficent coverage currently, the topic certainly has reliable, third party sources. Reputable sources such as the Independent, The Evening Standard, the BBC, the Telegraph, the Financial Times and Sky Sports have covered the topic. Therefore, I think the article should be reverted back to an article and tweaked to include these reliable sources. Have a nice day :)! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Squid45 (talk • contribs) 13:59, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Norwegian Institute for Nature Research

Have you looked at how many references there are to Norwegian Institute for Nature Research ? Why misled the public with link to article that has nothing to do with this subject ? There are many similar articles: Norwegian Forest and Landscape Institute Norwegian Geotechnical Institute Norwegian Institute for Air Research Norwegian Institute for Alcohol and Drug Research Norwegian Institute for Crop Research Norwegian Institute for Cultural Heritage Research Norwegian Institute for Defence Studies Norwegian Institute for Social Research Norwegian Institute for Strategic Studies Norwegian Institute for Urban and Regional Research Norwegian Institute for Water Research to name just a few ... Please provide more arguments for your action. Thanks ! User:Abune (talk) 14:16, 6 January 2021 (UTC) P.S. Close to 4000 (3783) publications !!! many has been cited in Wikipedia if you look at links !!! according to https://www.researchgate.net/institution/Norwegian_Institute_for_Nature_Research "The Norwegian Institute for Nature Research (NINA) is Norway’s leading institution for applied ecological research, with expertise on the genetic, population, species, ecosystem and landscape level, in terrestrial, freshwater and coastal marine environments. NINA addresses a wide variety of interdisciplinary issues involving both ecologists and social scientists, and plays an important role in European and other international research cooperation." according to https://www.fondationsegre.org/norwegian-institute-for-nature-research/ User:Abune (talk) 14:26, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Abune, the issue was sourcing and no indication of notability. There were zero reliable references from independent sources.Onel5969 TT me 14:39, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
I see... What about these two : https://www.fondationsegre.org/norwegian-institute-for-nature-research/

https://www.researchgate.net/institution/Norwegian_Institute_for_Nature_Research ? will you consider that sufficient ? User:Abune (talk) 16:18, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Abune, the guidelines are at WP:GNG, and WP:ORGDEPTH. In a nutshell, you need several in-depth references from independent sources to show notability. In addition, they should be from outside the local geographic area. The two sources you have above, are not in-depth, one is a simple listing, and the other one is little more than a blurb. They show the organization exists, but they do not show it is notable. Those other organizations are of dubious notability as well, and that is considered an "other stuff exists" argument, see WP:OSE. Hope this helps.Onel5969 TT me 16:33, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
I see ... Simple Google search produced more than 140 references in various independent sources and majority NOT from Norway. It will take some time for me to work through this list to find most appropriate. I personally have no doubt that this is one of the major organizations in it field (e.g. Pallas's cat‎, Asiatic cheetah ).

Once I update list of references to satisfy WP:GNG, WP:ORGDEPTH I'm going to restore this article. Will take a day, two or entire week depending on how busy I'm in "real life". Take care ! User:Abune (talk) 16:58, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Abune, if you want, I can move it into draftspace, so you can take your time to work on it.Onel5969 TT me 17:55, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for offering. Either way works for me ! I’m here since 2006 or so ... User:Abune (talk) 18:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Deprodding of Ibero-American Cultural Centre

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Ibero-American Cultural Centre, which you proposed for deletion. There are now more reliable references. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Miguel913 (talk) 18:59, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Star Gold

I wished to discuss with you about the edits you made to Star Gold. I have reverted them and wish to discuss this minute conflict with you. I have made this article based on the article of its sister-channel: Star Bharat. I have used similar content, and would like to state that it is one of the most prominent channels in India at present.

I have also made sufficient edits to make sure that it isn't promotional. So please view the article and kindly reply.--Atlantis77177 (talk) 04:31, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the review!

Once again, Thanks a lot Sir for your utmost generosity. These flowers are a small return to give you for my gratitude. Thanks a million for giving your review on the article Kaatelal & Sons.--Aleyamma38 (talk) 04:09, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Sofia Barclay

Heyup

I'm trying to work out what Sofia Barclay would have to do to become notable. From my view, she's had several major roles (including as Selina in the BBC drama Defending the Guilty, who is a pivotal role) and has a major role in the upcoming Text for You. That would pass NACTOR, surely? The role of Adela Zal in NYPD Blue would add to that.

Stui (talk) 15:42, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Stui, being in 3 episodes of a television series is not a truly significant role. And a minor role in a TV film isn't really that significant either. If she has one of the leads in the upcoming film, which it doesn't look like she does, a case MIGHT be made for passing WP:NACTOR, but it would be borderline at best. And only after that upcoming film is released. I do agree with you that the redirect made no sense, since she's not mentioned in the target article. Is she the granddaughter of those two? Onel5969 TT me 15:49, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

She is the granddaughter of David Barclay, although I'm really not sure who her parents are. I'm not sure why the redirect was there, either, but it looks like the person who created the page did so as a sort of "these people are linked so I'm making the page in case they're notable at some point" hedge.

The TV show is 6 eps long (admittedly half as long as Fawlty Towers) and I believe it has been recommissioned (although Covid is making it hard to do).

Ultimately, I think she's getting somewhere in the acting world, and the presence of the original page for three years clearly hasn't done any harm. It seemed prudent to fill it out with actual information rather than having an irrelevant redirect.

Stui (talk) 16:09, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Hay Chutima

Hi, just a head's up. You PROD'd this one but the creator removed it without comment or adding a source. Spiderone 08:44, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Reverting your redirects

Onel, I don't know if you're cursed or something, but I keep seeing your name in the page histories of redirects changed into articles. This time I've seen:

Have a look at them, Oiyarbepsy (talk) 06:07, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Oiyarbepsy, hi. No, not cursed, just someone who works a lot at the back of the NPP queue. If I redirect an article, and it gets reverted, I usually let another reviewer have a crack at it, rather than get into a debate with the editor. In my opinion all 5 should be returned to redirect status, none of the radio stations pass WP:BCAST, Hanks doesn't pass WP:NACTOR, and without his father, he is completely unnotable (you can tell by the fact that most of the articles contain something along the lines, "Tom Hanks son..."; and the comic, with 3 PR pieces and 1 unreliable source, doesn't have enough in-depth coverage to pass GNG. Onel5969 TT me 12:02, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Organized labour project

Thank you for joining the Organized Labour project. I've been a participant in the project since 2006 and am helping with a revival of it. As part this we are introducing a new membership system, which will help with communications among participants. This involves creating a membership file for each participant within your user space (you can see an example of my membership card here: User:Goldsztajn/WikiProjectCards/WikiProject Organized Labour). This system is already in operation within a number of wikiprojects (such as Women in Red and Medicine). You will not have to do anything, myself or someone else from the project will create the relevant file within your userspace. However, I am conscious that it is not polite to change an editor's user space without notice. If I don't hear from you in the negative, I will go ahead with making the change after the 18th of January. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Many thanks for supporting the project, in solidarity, --Goldsztajn (talk) 11:09, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Goldsztajn, thank you for the kind message. I belong to very few projects, and organized labour is not one of them. Good luck, however. Onel5969 TT me 11:55, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi Onel5969, you joined WikiProject Organized Labour in June 2015, sorry to see you no longer interested. Kind regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 13:20, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Goldsztajn, no worries. As I said, good luck. Onel5969 TT me 13:27, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Reason

Hello, please explain why you reverted my edits for Zee Bangla programmes. As the programming shows was huge in number, i created a separate page. Also the was redirect by giving an improper reason. As per Star Jalsha, i created programming list. Please sir let the details be in separate one. Kboomika33 (talk) 11:53, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Kboomika33, I have no idea what you're talking about. If you leave a message on someone's talk page, please provide a link to what you are asking about. Onel5969 TT me 16:00, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Sorry for not providing the link. As you revert my edits of List of programs broadcast by Zee Bangla - this page. I already mentioned the suggestion abouve. So please sir let the details be in separate one. Kboomika33 (talk) 10:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Kboomika33, as I said in my edit summary, removing that list leaves a stub article, readers are better served by keeping the information together at this point as per WP:SPLIT. Onel5969 TT me 22:27, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Apple ID for Advertisers

Hi,

I'm writing to you because you recently removed a bunch of content from Apple ID for Advertisers citing two Copyvios reports. I humbly disagree with your interpretation of these reports. To spare your page from walls of text, I stated my position on Talk:Apple_ID_for_Advertisers. For now, I returned the content back. Feel free to delete it again, but preferably with more sound explanation this time.Anton.bersh (talk) 18:42, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Gerard Way discography

Hello Onel5969. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Gerard Way discography, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: User was not banned/blocked when this page was created. Thank you. Barkeep49 (talk) 18:51, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Barkeep49, this was a weird one. While the master wasn't blocked on 1/4, one of his socks was blocked on 12/20. Initially I filed an SPI on the puppet as the master, without realizing the master account had been created first. Shouldn't the prohibition go back to the earliest block? Onel5969 TT me 19:00, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Ok that is weird. Do you have the SPI handy? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:05, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Here's the SPI: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bcbryar643/Archive. I began it on 1/6, thinking that Ronnieradkerockgod was the Master, since they were already blocked (you can see that in the history). I was roundly chastised somewhere for getting it incorrect...not sure where, can't find it now. And then Dreamy Jazz moved the SPI to Bcbryar643 as the master (also seen in the history). And you can also see that Ronnieradkerockgod was blocked back on 12/16. And yes, very weird. Onel5969 TT me 19:38, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Hey there Barkeep49 - have you had a chance to look into this yet? Onel5969 TT me 20:46, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Sorry I checked back once, didn't see a reply and forgot to come again. Thanks for the ping. So the block on the sock account was for DE editing. I think by the strictest reading of G5 they'd be eligible. But I'm not terribly enthused about using it in an edge case on a topic that appears to be notable (haven't checked referencing but it makes a clear claim to passing NMUSIC). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Barkeep49, thanks for the response. Strict is good. But I understand your viewpoint. Onel5969 TT me 22:39, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

MLL-PLL merger article redirect

Hello. I see you just converted the MLL-PLL merger article to a redirect (to Premier Lacrosse League). I disagree with this. The article had multiple reliable, third party sources. Additionally, the topic meets all other notability guidelines and represents a pivotal event in the history of professional lacrosse, parallel to other major sports mergers. Therefore, I think the article should be reverted back to its independent form. ThatWikiAl (talk) 21:18, 11 January 2021 (UTC)ThatWikiAl

ThatWikiAl, it's fine to disagree with, but it's the merger of two minor sporting leagues, it is best served by handling it in a section of the surviving league, and linking to that section from the now defunct league. Onel5969 TT me 22:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Onel5969, this is the merger of two leagues both playing at the highest level of professional lacrosse, the official summer sport of Canada and referred to as the fastest growing sport in the United States. This event is best served through a new page that will be further developed as more long-term effects of the merger unfold. This is not dissimilar from the ABA–NBA merger, AFL–NFL merger, NHL–WHA merger, or PSL–PVL merger, all of which are unique pages. Redirecting does a disservice to the sport and the vast implications this merger has on the landscape of professional lacrosse and emerging team sports in North America. ThatWikiAl (talk) 04:23, 12 January 2021 (UTC)ThatWikiAl
Actually, it's quite dissimilar to at least 3 of those mergers, if I looked into it more, I bet that the 4th, PSL–PVL merger would also not warrant its own article, but merely mentions at the two current articles. At the time of the first 3 mergers, both leagues were receiving significant national press, something woefully missing regarding professional lacrosse.Onel5969 TT me 22:25, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Onel5969, at the time of the AFL-NFL merger, the AFL was in just the 2nd year of their first big television contract with NBC. The PLL just so happens to also be in their second year of a major television contract with NBC. Yes those other mergers received press at the time, but no one then truly imagined just how much those leagues would take off and how large they would become. We look back at those mergers now as a turning point for those sports. Just the same as what this MLL-PLL merger represents. Professional football salaries were lower then, and many players were just finally becoming full-time athletes. Professional lacrosse players are at that junction today. As for specific PLL press, this merger was clearly covered by NBC, AP News, Sportico, Sports Illustrated, and the Washington Post among other news outlets. Again, it seems that this article meets all Wikipedia requirements. If I need to add more sources to the page in your opinion, I would be happy to. ThatWikiAl (talk) 23:02, 18 January 2021 (UTC)ThatWikiAl

Categories

No, stub templates don't make an article "categorized" for the purposes of evicting the {{uncategorized}} template. (Notice that the stub template even explicitly says that stub categories aren't enough.) Stub templates are grouping articles by a maintenance state, and are for internal editing purposes rather than end-user reader browsing purposes, and are meant to be temporary because they're supposed to be removed when the article expands past stub length — so even if a page has 100 stub templates on it, it still isn't categorized until it also has at least one true, permanent end-user content category directly declared on the page in [[Category:This thing]] format. (And no, just copying over the stub categories so that they're being declared on the page in addition to the invocation of the stub template isn't the magic ticket, either — the page still isn't properly categorized if all of its categories have the word "stubs" in them.) Bearcat (talk) 22:56, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Bearcat, thanks. Good to know. In the past, other editors have removed my uncategorized tags with only stub cats, so again, thank you. Onel5969 TT me 22:58, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

GNG

Hello. In case you did not see it, I left a note for you here. I think that your assertion that the article does not meet GNG is very much incorrect. It has multiple articles, devoted to the subject, by RSs such as the FT, the NYT, the NY Post, and the NY Daily News. Its a premier example of an article satisfying GNG. I would urge you, if you still maintain that in your view it does not (which I admit surprises me greatly), that you take it to AfD. But I expect you will if you do so see that editors in general do not sure your view as to what satisfies GNG. Stay safe. --2603:7000:2143:8500:9D0F:6A81:4224:6C2A (talk) 23:37, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Sorry that I just made you do a lot of clicking with those redirect reviews lol. Have this kitten as a solace :)

Curbon7 (talk) 00:00, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Curbon7, no worries. Glad to see you had the issues with your compromised account fixed. Onel5969 TT me 14:54, 12 January 2021 (UTC)


Why?

Hey, I just wanted to ask. Why did you move Draft:Pande Eftimov to draftspace? Even when you moved it, there were a number of reliable Bulgarian and Macedonian news references in the article. SilverserenC 03:49, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Silver seren, when it was moved to draft, virtually the entire article, absent the lead sentence, was uncited. I felt it was better to move it to draft where it could be worked on, rather than leave it and delete 98% as uncited. Onel5969 TT me 14:52, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Do you think it's better now? I see that Jingiby has submitted the Draft to AfC, but I really don't think that's necessary. SilverserenC 18:17, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi Onel5969! May you really take a look to the article now. Thanks in advance. Jingiby (talk) 19:44, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Jingiby, did. Nice job. In mainspace now. Onel5969 TT me 22:26, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Unjustified erasures

Recently, I noticed that you have completely deleted the geography section of some articles on the rivers of Quebec (eg: Rivière du Monument, Petite rivière du Monument ...). Let's put in perspective that a lot of research and writing work has been done to inform the public well about the description of the rivers. The writing of these sections is based on generally accepted methods. These sections of articles are well sourced by the Atlas of Canada (Toporama) which is published by the federal government; this involves using the geographic instrumentation available on the site. The information published is accurate and properly informs the public. Anyone can access the Atlas of Canada (Toporama) through the Internet and check by using the geographic tools. For the public, it is not necessary to have a doctorate in geography. With regret these erasures impoverish the encyclopedia.--Veillg1 (Veillg1) 10:05, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Veillg1, will respond to your disruptive behavior on your talk page, where there is an ongoing discussion, which you continue to ignore. Onel5969 TT me 12:52, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Please leave alone the article The Absurdity of Human Existence

The album The Absurdity of Human Existence is from an established artist (Danz CM) and soon to be released. Please leave it alone and respect my work. Thanks.Deepblue1 (talk) 14:10, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Deepblue1, please understand WP's notability criteria. Onel5969 TT me 20:39, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

You should have told me earlier

You should've told me before moving my article to a draft page. Now there's no use telling me when you've already done it. It seems you didn't check the external links as a source for references. You could have left a template box indicating that article needs more references instead of outright moving it to a draft. Never mind though, I'm too tired for editing it all over again. I feel like I've wasted my valuable time. Since you've moved it to a draft, now the onus is on you to expand it. Good luck and have a nice day/night! — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 23:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Hemant Dabral, you were notified, back on 12/19 by John B123, who did exactly what you suggested and left the ref improve template. Which you chose to ignore. There's no onus on me, I could care less about the subject, if you want to work on it, then that's you're prerogative. If you want to contest the draftification, I'll move it back to mainspace, and remove all the uncited material, which will virtually empty the article. Let me know. Onel5969 TT me 01:58, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Laos

I'm working on citing the stubs and expanding the articles regarding the politburo and the Central Committee. Please stop until you see my work is finished! :) --Ruling party (talk) 17:01, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm going skiing :) BUT I will reference those lists, expand the Politburo and the Central Committee. I will also try—somehow—how to reference properly.... Could you teach me that last one? :) I've added references to the 2nd, 3rd and 4th politburos --Ruling party (talk) 17:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Semaphore signal (disambiguation)

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re. Yu Wensheng prod

Hey, hope you're having a good day! I'm on PROD patrol and noticed your prodding of Yu Wensheng, an article that looks borderline for notability at a glance. I'm very careful about AfDs and PRODs about non-Anglophone subjects where the nominator/proposer doesn't speak the relevant language, because of the consequences for WP:BEFORE, but I don't want to remove the PROD without assuming and possibly cast unintentional aspersions. Can you read Chinese or understand spoken Mando/Canto (both seem potentially relevant to a mainland subject involved with HK)? If I missed any language userboxes on your page, all apologies! Vaticidalprophet (talk) 16:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Vaticidalprophet, hi and hoping you're having a good day as well. However, you're question is irrelevant. Clear case of WP:BIO1E. Onel5969 TT me 16:19, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
My concern here is that the article's introduction mentions apparent high-profile law cases that may serve to further establish notability, but on which little seems to be written in English. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 16:22, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Vaticidalprophet, even if correct, participating in a high profile case does not denote notability. Onel5969 TT me 16:25, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Restore Kingman Hall issue

Hi Onel5969, can you tell me the specific issue with citation? I'm working on the cite that you restored the redirection back to, and it most likely has the same citation issues in other sections. There's so much to do there that the format of citations was not my #1 problem. The primary issue is that its subsections should have pages of their own, as there are too many of these subsections for it to be navigable. Rybkovich (talk) 18:05, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Rybkovich, hi, there are several issues, which I mentioned in my edit summary. First, there is a dearth of footnotes, as in zero. You need to insert footnotes. Second, there is not enough information in the references to satisfy WP:VERIFY, so please take a look at WP:CIT and WP:CITE on how to use footnotes, how to format them, and what information needs to be included. Onel5969 TT me 18:46, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Good points! Will fix this no problem. I see that you have a lot of edits! Rybkovich (talk) 20:51, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

WP 20

Thank you for good wishes! - Happy Wikipedia 20, - proud of a little bit on the Main page today, and 5 years ago, and 10 years ago, look: create a new style - revive - complete! I sang in the revival mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:19, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

... and today Jerome Kohl, remembered in friendship --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of The Success Principles for deletion

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Arnold Schoenberg Institute

I was trying to help my uncle set up a page for the Arnold Schoenberg Institute which used to be at USC, before my grandfather's archives were moved to the Arnold Schönberg Center in Vienna. You deleted it right away. Can you please let me work on it? There are plenty of sources. It is a different entity than the Center in Vienna. --Randols (talk) 02:18, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Randols, if you would like to work on it, I can move it into draftspace. There, you can work on it without worrying about it being deleted or redirected, until you feel it has enough references to pass WP:GNG. If you would like that, let me know and I'll take care of it. Onel5969 TT me 03:11, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Yes please Randols (talk) 06:28, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Randols,  Done. Good luck with it. Onel5969 TT me 14:21, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Pusa Road

Hi, and best wishes for 2021. This is to request you to remove the PROD tag. I am working on the article. I have more material, which I will add over the coming days. I am also hoping that other editors will help me with the History. Before starting the page, I looked up some existing articles on roads, and I believe this road is as notable as many of them. I just need a little time. Thanks a lot! Amuk (talk) 05:33, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Onel5969. Please take a look now. Thanks! Amuk (talk) 05:39, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Amuk, hi. The issue is to meet WP:GNG you need in-depth coverage about the road itself. Your sourcing is all about places which are on the road. You can also take a look at WP:GEOROAD. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 12:27, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Onel5969, hi and thanks for directing me to WP:GEOROAD. My sources earlier were the websites of places on the road. Now I have added five references, which are all secondary and in-depth, and I have located more which I will add. This has, incidentally, not only brought it close to establishing WP:GNG, but helped to improve the article as a whole. I will now remove the PROD since the one-week deadline gets over in a few hours. Thanks a lot! Amuk (talk) 01:29, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Takkoku!!!

Hi, and thank you for your time. I see you've recently erased the entire Takkoku article which I worked on. I felt that was a little drastic, but what did you find wrong with it and is there anyway I can fix this and learn to prevent future mistakes? Thank you. Malcolm L. Mitchell (talk) 18:52, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Malcolm L. Mitchell, hi. It's not erased, simply redirected. The issue was that there wasn't a single in-depth reference from an independent, reliable source. I looked at two of your other articles, and they have the same issue (Kaiō Dante and Giji Harem ). Sources need to be independent, in other words they can't have anything to do with the subject of the article. They also have to be reliable. Commercial sources selling the product do not qualify (e.g. Amazon). And sources which are simply blogs, or pseudo-news sources which accept user content are not reliable either, like Anime News Network. All 3 of these might meet notability requirements, but the sourcing needs to be from reliable sources. Hope this helps. And if you would like to work on them, I could move them to draft for you. Onel5969 TT me 19:39, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Onel5969 I can most likely fix them in due time. If you would, could you please move them to draft? Thank you.
 Done. Good luck. Also, feel free to ping me here if you want me to take a look at them when you feel they're ready. Onel5969 TT me 19:47, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Onel5969, pinging you. Hope it looks a little better now with some references.

Speedy deletion declined: Valerii Makovetskyi

Hello Onel5969. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Valerii Makovetskyi, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. SmartSE (talk) 22:14, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Smartse, thanks for letting me know. Onel5969 TT me 23:52, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Please Protect The Following Pages From Heavy IP Vandalism

I Don't Knew How To Protect Pages So I Am Asking You

Please Protect This Pages From Heavy IP Vandalism

Please Protect This Pages Heavy Vandalism Is Been Made In This Pages By Some IP Users Dev Adhi (talk) 06:19, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Dev Adhi, do you have Twinkle? If so, it has the RPP function. Simply go to the page and click RPP and then fill in the reason for your request. If not, go to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection and follow the instructions there. I am not an admin, and cannot do page protections. Sorry. Onel5969 TT me 12:18, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

New article

@Onel5969, hi, last day i made a Labiodental ejective affricate page ([1]) and i did add 2 sources to it, what else do you want? AleksiB 1945 (talk) 21:25, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of 10 Lives for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 10 Lives is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/10 Lives until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

FalconK (talk) 05:47, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Splitting discussion for 1983 Upper Voltan coup d'état attempt

An article that been involved with (1983 Upper Voltan coup d'état attempt) has content that is proposed to be removed and moved to another article (1983 Upper Voltan coup d'état). If you are interested, please visit the discussion. Thank you. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 17:41, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol School

Hey Onel. Sorry to bug you, your talk page looks pretty busy. I'm interested in doing New Page Patrol School and I was wondering if you'd be interested in taking me on as a student. I've got about 2800 edits. I'm a pending changes reviewer (done about 300 approves, maybe a similar number of reverts) and I feel I have a pretty decent grasp of many of the core policies, including RS and NPOV. Now I'd like to shore up one of my weak areas, which is notability/deletion. NPP looks like a great way to learn about deletion, help out in a backlogged area, and master something complex. I'm currently furloughed due to COVID, so I'm available pretty much all the time on weekdays. I am wiki addicted, I am editing a lot ;) Time zone is USA Pacific. Happy to communicate off wiki, Skype screen share, whatever your training method is. Look forward to speaking further. Thank you. –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:47, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Novem Linguae, if you could give me two days to review all the NPPS material and set up my curriculum, I'd be more than happy to help you take the course. While I'm doing that, you might want to start reviewing the information on the Wikipedia:New pages patrol Tutorial page. Onel5969 TT me 12:50, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Excellent. I'll work on that, and I'll check back in on Thursday. Looking forward to it. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:06, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Novem Linguae, had some time this morning, so I created the page we'll be using, you can find it here: User:Onel5969/NPPSchool/Novem Linguae. Onel5969 TT me 13:38, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Awesome. Thank you for taking the time. I spent an hour or two today reading through CSD and some of NPP. I downloaded the flowchart and started modifying it/taking notes. Screenshot. I also installed the recommended userscripts, configured my Twinkle, started a CSD log, and practiced the NPP flowchart on a page. If it's OK, I'll check back in when I'm done thorougly reading the NPP page. For communications like this and for assignment answers, do you want me to reply on your talk page, the custom NPP page you made, or the custom NPP's talk page? Thanks for your help. –Novem Linguae (talk) 13:49, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Novem Linguae, From this point forward, regarding NPP School, we should use the NPP School page I set up, that way we won't have to wade through other comments. Welcome aboard. Onel5969 TT me 13:56, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Daniel Vladař

Just as a heads up, I'm moving this back to mainspace. 18abruce was able to add the team that qualified the athlete. He played six games with Czech Extraliga team. I told the user in the future to make it clear as day for us on this player's and how they pass WP:NHOCKEY to avoid this in the future. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 14:32, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Sulfurboy, hi. Thanks for having him do that. However, whether or not he actually played for the Czech team is not supported in the referencing. Onel5969 TT me 14:39, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Onel5969, It is now, he put a cite with the statement about him playing for that team. It's also confirmed in the elite prospects source that was in place from the start, he just forgot to correlate that to him playing for that qualifying team. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:44, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

2018 Northeast Conference Tournament

I noticed that you undid my revision, just to put a redirect on the article 2018 Northeast Conference Men's Soccer Tournament. That was unnecessary and there is no good reason for it, as there are articles with information for tournaments from other years. Having actual information and scores from the tournament are a lot better than just a redirect link, so please don't put a redirect on it. -Ajax.amsterdam.fan (talk) 16:50, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Ajax.amsterdam.fan, it was deleted as part of a recent AfD discussion. As such it is eligible for speedy deletion, but rather than that, restoration of the redirect was done as an ATD. Onel5969 TT me 16:58, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Tatsuki Fujimoto

Hi, I improved the Tatsuki Fujimoto page. Could you let me know if it is ready to be moved back to mainspace? Cheers. - Xexerss (talk) 18:20, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Xexerss, Nice job! Moved to mainspace. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 00:52, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Asagiro

Hi, me again. Can you also please move Asagiro to a draft page to allow me to work on a better article? Thanks. Malcolm L. Mitchell (talk) 20:00, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Malcolm L. Mitchell, no problem. Done. Onel5969 TT me 00:50, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Good news

Hello O. I've just learned that reflinks has been resurrected. It has a couple enhancements like being able to ask it to fix more than 20 refs at a time. You do have to click on the interactive feature to make it work properly. You might already know this but, since this was the second best thing to happen today, I wanted to let you know about it just in case. Cheers!! MarnetteD|Talk 19:15, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

MarnetteD, no I didn't know. And yes, excellent news. Onel5969 TT me 20:39, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
It runs mostly the same as before and I feel sure you will adapt to the few things that are new. It even marks some dead links like the old days :-) MarnetteD|Talk 20:43, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Re speedy deletion of Bejay Mulenga

Hi Onel5969. Just letting you know that I have contested the speedy deletion tag you recently put on the Bejay Mulenga page as it is Not unambiguously promotional. If you have any advice on improving the article, please do share. Much appreciated. Cornelius Henson (talk) 22:52, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Cornelius Henson, that's fine. Seems to be a moot point now. Onel5969 TT me 01:45, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

More "not ready for mainspace"

Could you take a look at some more of his recent creations and send back a few to incubate in draftspace that aren't ready, such as ones that don't say their native range? Abductive (reasoning) 02:12, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Abductive, I'm not sure what you're referring to, but if it's what I think you're referring to, I'm not seeing outstanding species stubs by that editor. Onel5969 TT me 02:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
He reversed my last attempt to talk to him on his talk page. Abductive (reasoning) 02:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Abductive, hi. Sorry about that. I have reviewed quite a few of their stubs, and the ones which aren't suitable I move to draft. In most cases it looks to be a case of them moving too quickly, and not reviewing their work. Onel5969 TT me 15:28, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorrels Field

Why is the article Sorrels Field being nominated for deletion? -Ajax.amsterdam.fan (talk) 15:23, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Ajax.amsterdam.fan, because it's not notable. Just because something exists, doesn't make it notable. Please see WP:GNG for what constitutes notability. Onel5969 TT me 15:25, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
onel5969, how is it not notable though? I have seen other articles about college soccer stadiums that are less-known that Sorrels Field, but they aren't deleted. I think this one should stay because it has been used by pro teams and is a current stadium that is in use by a Division 1 team

Draft:2020–21 Amateur National Championship

I have updated the draft with references from the Moroccan official website for amateur football leagues. All league tables and results table have their own source reference below each table. Please review as soon as you can. Best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vegeta228 (talk • contribs) 19:07, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Vegeta228, hi. I see that you've added what are known as "raw links", which while are valid references, they are sometimes hard to recognize as sources, and are also prone to what is known as link rot. Please see WP:CIT and WP:CITE to learn more about how to place and format references/footnotes, and what information needs to be included to pass WP:VERIFY. Onel5969 TT me 13:04, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Please explain your Speedy Deletion request.

Please see Talk:America's Frontline Doctors. RobP (talk) 01:49, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Rp2006, it was a WP:MIRROR. See below - I missed your edit summary with the correct attribution, my apologies. Onel5969 TT me 12:46, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Onel, you've also mistakenly tagged List of number-one hits of 2021 (Germany) with a speedy deletion tag for copyright violation. Whatever website this is—https://cuttysarkpub.si/rfpt7v3/nummer-1-hits-2020-1ba180 —is clearly some kind of garbled nonsense WP:MIRROR collection scraped from other websites, including this choice cut: "School Zone - Big Preschool Workbook - Ages 3-5 and Up, Colors, Shapes, Numbers 1-10, Alphabet, Pre-Writing, Pre-Reading, Phonics, and More School Zone 4.8 out of 5 stars 34,953". I can assure you no editor on Wikipedia found this no-name website and copied a portion of its garbage for use on a list of number-ones for Germany. Users on Wikipedia wrote that introduction and this website crawled the internet for it. Besides, the copyvio template clearly says any editor who did not create the page can contest the speedy deletion tag by removing it. Ss112 21:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Ss112, I agree with your assessment of that "garbled nonsense", however when a site is marked with copyright, and the verbiage appears to predate the Wiki article, I prefer to let others with more experience in CV issues take a look. Onel5969 TT me 21:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

America's Frontline Doctors CSD declined

The page cited as the infringement appears to be a weird cache/mirror of Wikipedia's Tea Party Patriots page, from which the article was properly split. ViperSnake151  Talk  01:57, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Lothlorien

Let's not argue, re whether or not lothlorien has enough notability. It DOES its one of the premier historical houses that is well known throughout the university and the biggest co-operative system in the USA. BUT I see you have a trigger finger for deleting content. Both times you deleted/redirected content, that others have put in A LOT of time into. I'm sure this is not the first time this point has been made to you. A civil way to do this would have been been for you to make your objection to the editor prior to the deletion. You failed to do this twice. So yes, your redirection has been undone. If you still want to the article to be re-directed you can formally bring up your objection to be considered by others. Rybkovich (talk) 03:12, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Rybkovich, please familiarize yourself with GNG guidelines, which you clearly don't understand. Being well known is not the same as being notable. The cooperative is notable, this particular structure is not. Onel5969 TT me 12:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Michael Weirsky

I started a draft about Michael Weirsky. Can you please make it a full article that is a good article or featured article, please? I would prefer it to be featured article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michael_Weirsky — Preceding unsigned comment added by LotteryGeek (talk • contribs) 00:40, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

LotteryGeek, sorry, it's unlikely that this person will ever get a Wikipedia article, let alone a good or featured article. Please see WP:GNG as to what constitutes notability. Onel5969 TT me 00:44, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
He is in the top 250 list of worldwide lottery winner. There is plenty of news coverage about him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LotteryGeek (talk • contribs) 00:48, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
LotteryGeek, please see WP:BIO1E Onel5969 TT me 00:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)


Mikhail Lebedev

We urgently need a Wikipedia article on the famous neuorscientist, Mikhail Lebedev. Can you please finish the article on Mikhail Lebedev this weekend? It needs to be nominated as a good or featured article within 30 days. I Already started. Please see Draft:Mikhail Lebedev (neuorscientist). — Preceding unsigned comment added by LotteryGeek (talk • contribs) 01:15, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Claude Mélançon

Today, you proposed to delete the article "Claude Mélançon", a Canadian naturalist who worked in the popularization of natural sciences. The references indicated initially were sufficient; however, other references have been added. I have worked hard to write this article well. Given the notoriety of this character, the proposal to erase this article is clearly exaggerated. Especially that anyone can refer on the Internet to his work of life. Please delete this unnecessary notice. -- Veillg1 (talk) 02:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Jake Puckerman

Hello, you reverted my edits today on Jake Puckerman and I was wondering if you could give an explanation why? You said that the article had "Zero real world notability," but all of the other main characters on Glee have their own character pages, as well as some recurring characters. If it was a problem with the way it was written, I would have rather you reached out to me rather than deleting the work. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Thanks. - Fiscus Brady!! (talk) 06:29, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Fiscus Brady!!, WP:OSE is not a very good argument. Just because other crappy articles exist, doesn't mean that this one should. Take a look at WP:NFICTION. For notability purposes, interviews count zero, being primary sources. In the development section, that leaves a single sentence about the character in a promotional announcement. In the reception section, again two small blurbs doesn't do well to denote notability. Onel5969 TT me 12:56, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
onel5969, thank you for the feedback on the article. However, I do feel that the character deserves an article so I wish you would have left those criticisms in a notice on the page or moved the work to a draft space. I do understand your arguments, though. - Fiscus Brady!! (talk) 17:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Fiscus Brady!!, I can definitely move it to draftspace, if you would like. Onel5969 TT me 18:38, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
onel5969, I think that would be a good idea. That way other editors can contribute and help the article. - Fiscus Brady!! (talk) 19:21, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Fiscus Brady!!,  Done. Onel5969 TT me 19:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
onel5969, Thank you! - Fiscus Brady!! (talk) 03:35, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Memories (Kim Woo-seok and Lee Eun-sang song)

Hi, can I ask you something? Why did you turn this page into a redirect link? I'm new to Wikipedia, so can you point what criteria this article didn't fulfill from WP:NSONG? Thank you. Byy2 (talk) 09:33, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Byy2, a. hasn't charted; b. hasn't won a significant honor; c. has not been covered by other significant groups. Most of the citations are publicity announcements. Hope that helps. Onel5969 TT me 13:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for answering my question! Byy2 (talk) 01:31, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikimedia Incubator

Hello, I noticed that you recently turned the Wikimedia Incubator page to a redirect. I think that it might be better to turn it back to the article again and let others have the ability to keep contributing to it. I don't entirely agree with the redirect, so can you please let me know what you think and what we should do about that page? Thanks. 54nd60x (talk) 23:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

54nd60x, sorry, but that was a decision as the result of a consensus from a discussion. Look at BDD's edit summary on 1/4/21. Onel5969 TT me 23:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Ok, now I understand why the page was turned to a redirect. Thanks for letting me know. 54nd60x (talk) 00:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Reverse Copyvio

Comparing the "source" to a March 2020 (9 months before the source was written) revision of 2010's charts also shows a match - looks like reverse copyvio to me. Cabayi (talk) 18:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Cabayi, hi there. I'm not sure what you're referring to here. The link above is to a copyvio report for List of number-one hits of 2010 (Germany), which I don't think I've ever touched. Am I missing something? Onel5969 TT me 18:09, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
You reported List of number-one hits of 2021 (Germany) as a copyvio. If the March 2020 revision of Wikipedia's article on the 2010 charts also matched cuttysarkpub.si (written Dec 13, 2020) then cuttysarkpub.si can't have been the original source. The cuttysarkpub.si page looks like faked up, mixed language "content" drawing on some Wiki text & goodness-knows-what-else intended to trick search engines into rating the website higher. Cabayi (talk) 18:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Cabayi, thanks for clarifying that. I review a few pages a day, and the title didn't ring a bell, so when I clicked on your above link, it confused me. Onel5969 TT me 20:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

To keep you in the loop

Just to let you know, you were listed at a arbitration request which has been since removed as premature by me. It can be viewed at this permalink. Thanks, Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 19:51, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Dreamy Jazz, thanks. A bit bizarre regarding a notability difference of opinion. Onel5969 TT me 20:26, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Otzar Ha'aretz

Thank you for your comments, I would like to know how to express that the page is a translation from the Hebrew article on this topic, see here. The topic here is related to the sabbatical year in Israeli which will begin this September 2021 and is relevant to the contemporary life in Israel. I have been asked to explain some of the complexities of the Jewish laws pertaining to letting the agriculture grow wild - untouched - for the sabbatical year, and to review how the farmers can make living during that year. Thank you for your help in making this article better and sharing this topic to the English speaking public. Would it help to add more articles in English? I only found this one which spoke against this movement. Drkup(IMJ) (talk) 19:46, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Drkup(IMJ). The article is already linked to the Hebrew WP through the languages script on the left side of the page. In the future, if you create a page and it's a translation from a foreign language WP, the correct attribution is to mention that in the edit summary, the process is explained at WP:TFOLWP. Regarding this particular article, if you would like, I'll go make a null edit (where I change nothing), and simply make the attribution for you. Is this article about the company? Or about the concept on which the company is founded? You can make it about the company, and include the concept in the history of why it was founded. Or you can make it about the concept, and include the company as an example of how Israel is meeting current societal needs as in relation to the concept. When I did a search, I did find a decent article about the company, in The Times of Israel, but that's the only one I could find, which is why I prodded it. Articles do not have to be in English. So yes, adding other sources which goes in-depth about the company (if that's the route you choose), or the concept, would be a way to show notability. Different WP projects have different standards for notability and verifiability, and English WP is one of the more stringent. Hope the helps, and don't hesitate to ask me to look at the article again, if you make improvements. Onel5969 TT me 20:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
I think I have updated the article as per your advise - to confirm, it is a non profit company created to solve a biblical problem during modern times. The company is fledgling as it has not existed straight through but only "pops-up" every seven years during the sabbatical year - which is about to begin again in six months. I hope I have clarified this point in the article. I would appreciate if you help me correctly attribute the Hebrew article as I did not understand what I was meant to do.Drkup(IMJ) (talk) 18:49, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

George Floyd protests in Italy

Hi, i saw you deleted the page i created and you made a redirect, why? Borteddd (talk) 22:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Borteddd, this was a procedural move. As I said in the edit summary, WP:SPLIT would apply in this case. What you should do, is revert my edit, and put the correct attribution in the edit summary. Then I would (but it isn't required), make sure that everything in the main article is included in the new list, and delete the information in the main article, leaving just the main article: George Floyd protests in Italy, in that section. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 16:19, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Ok, i undid your redirect, i will add the cities that protested with 100 or more people. Borteddd (talk) 16:21, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Borteddd, very cool. Onel5969 TT me 16:33, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Cuisine of Odessa page

Hi, may I ask what do you mean with "This article does not cite any sources"? First version of the article had a lot of quotes with sources, but they were deleted by another editor. Look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Cuisine_of_Odessa&oldid=997197198

Should I restore them again? Please, will you be kind to explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wizard85 (talk • contribs) 16:06, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Update March 3, 2021 Hi, I added 38 references to all significant dishes. Will you be so kind to check it and approve the article, if possible. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wizard85 (talk • contribs) 16:20, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Onel5969, thank you! I'm following this topic so will add sources as soon as I see it. Thank you for your help and advices.
Wizard85, not necessarily. The quotes were overdone, but what you need is to cite the information that is currently in the article. For example, there is a section "Odessa specialties", you should find a source which describes those items as a specialty of Odessa, and insert that footnote. Then, you should provide a footnote for each item which either does not have a link to its own Wikipage, or the wikipage does not highlight as an Odessa specialty (e.g. in looking at Bryndza, Odessa is not even mentioned in the article. Similarly, every assertion made in the "Overview" section should have a footnote, as per WP:VERIFY. And the "Typical dishes" section also needs a reference to show that all of those dishes are Odessian. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 16:32, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Wizard85, I think it's good enough to get moved to mainspace, but it still needs more sourcing, so keep working on it. Nice job so far. Onel5969 TT me 16:36, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

A goat for you!

Thanks for deleting my Antim: The Final Truth Redirecting. I think that article is notable. What do i have to do to restore that article? Do i have to cite more sources?

Hyderabadi Wikipedian (talk) 13:43, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Buiu (disambiguation)

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A tag has been placed on Buiu (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a disambiguation page which either

  • disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic);
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Redirect of "One Thousand Pictures"

Hello, I was quite surprised by the redirect of my article. The article meets the notability requirements in more than one way and I worked on this article with another experienced Wikipedia editor. I have other published album articles that follow the same format as this one. This redirect is confusing readers.Cheryl Fullerton (talk) 00:05, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Cheryl Fullerton, sorry, the album, as presented in the article, meets none of the criteria. There are two blurbs from promotional sites, not in-depth reviews of the album. Let's review, #1 - Nope, both of the current sites are just basic listings. #2 - Nope. #3 - Nope. #4 - Nope. #5 - Nope. #6 - Nope. #7 - Nope. So not sure what you are referring to when you say that this album meets more than ONE of the criteria. In it's current form, it meets none. Please point out which of the multiple criteria it meets as per the current sourcing of the article? Onel5969 TT me 00:33, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

This is what Wikipedia says meets the notability criteria. This album meets more than ONE of the criteria.


"Specific to recordings, a recording may be notable if it meets at least one of these criteria:

Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following: Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about the recording, and all advertising that mentions the recording, including manufacturers' advertising. Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases. The single or album has appeared on any country's national music chart. The recording has been certified gold or higher in at least one country. The recording has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award. The recording was performed in a medium that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read the policy and notability guideline on subjects notable only for one event, for further clarifications). The recording was in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network. The recording has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network. Notability aside, a standalone article is only appropriate when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged into the artist's article or discography."


Hello, I'm expanding the article with new sources, such as the LA Times, Salt Lake City Desseret, and others. I hope those sources are considered reliable. Also, AllMusic is considered a source for most music articles I see on Wikipedia. Is there a reason that you didn't consider it to be a good source? Also, Guitar Nine, is it considered reliable? Now, if you could help me indirect the redirect, I would be most appreciative. Regards,Cheryl Fullerton (talk) 20:13, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Fila (hat) reversion to “Aso Oke Hat”

Hello, I noticed that you reverted my relocation of the article “Fila (hat)” which was previously entitles “Aso Oke Hat”. I have reversed your reversion and ask that you leave the article in it’s, now correct, place.

I relocated this article because Fila is the correct term for this garment and it is never referred to as an “Aso Oke Hat” except on Wikipedia or in a few blog posts referencing this incorrectly titled article.

Fila are made with various fabrics, including aso oke, and to refer to all fila as “aso oke hats” is and incorrect, anacronistic and actually offensive. It is clearly a non-Nigerian, non-Yoruba, outsider looking in type of term which has no relevance in Yoruba, or Nigerian society or culture.

I am a subject matter expert on this subject, being Yoruba and Nigerian.

Ajisekanla (talk) 11:28, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Ajisekanla, what you did is called a cut and paste move, which was explained in my edit summary. These are not allowed on WP, due to attribution reasons. You must "move" the page. Most likely the current redirect is preventing you from doing that, so you must request it to be moved at WP:REQUESTED MOVES, if you do so, you should include references to back up your above claims. Onel5969 TT me 11:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Got it. Will follow that process. There are no references supporting “aso oke hat” other than this article. Ajisekanla (talk) 11:52, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Goms cross-country skiing trail

Could you please take another look? I added references to the official Switzerland Tourism website as well as outdooractive.com (Europe's largest outdoor web platform), I guess those should be reliable sources. --MRB (talk) 16:18, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

MRB, hi. There's still quite a bit of uncited material in the article. Any assertion you make should have a citation/footnote. Also, I'm not sure of the notability, it would be nice to see some in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources, but that's a different issue. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 22:27, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Again, in a more civil tone

User @Rosguill: removed my last post because it was uncivil. He was right to do so. You, however, have no right to delete those articles and move them to draft.

Reasons

  1. I'm working my ass off—on my spare—improving WP's coverage of Laos. You are deleting that coverage.
  2. I'm posting online the list of governments of Laos and North Korea. You are deleting them. You would never delete articles about (lets say) Donald Trump's Cabinet. But you are doing it for North Korea and Laos.
  3. I'm working my ass of to expand articles I create. You can see it here, here and here. That inspires me.
  4. You kill my inspiration, you kill my joy and you want to quite WP. Because of instead letting me to my work, you are deleting for no good reason.
  5. User Geo Swan [here] (very well I might add) why these articles shouldn't be deleted, why they should be kept. And you delete them.

Rosguill said I shouldn't say you deserved to be blocked BUT that's what I feel you deserve. This might just be temporary anger—very probably is—but I'm feeling it for a very good reason. You should think how you're edits affect other users who contribute in their spare time to improve WP's coverage. Edits like you're—like you did my deleting my articles from main space—kill my joy. That should really get you to think. --Ruling party (talk) 21:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Ruling party, I'm just going to note that while your efforts to expand our coverage of Laos and North Korea are admirable, Onel5969 is not the only editor that has taken issue with the manner in which you have been publishing such material. While it's ok for articles to be stubs when you first publish them, they need to have citations to multiple independent sources. You should consider either developing these articles more in draftspace before moving to publish, or collecting similar topics together (e.g. at Politburo of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party) before splitting things out into multiple articles. The way that you are currently editing leads to an undue amount of work for our new page reviewers, and directly leads to the conflicts that you are having. signed, Rosguill talk 21:30, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Rosguill But the articles on the LPRP had references. EVerything was referenced... --Ruling party (talk) 21:51, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Ruling party, could you be more specific about which article you are referring to? signed, Rosguill talk 21:58, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi Ruling party. First, I moved 4 of your articles to draft, solely because they were unsourced, and had not been worked on for improvement in over two weeks. One of the policies of WP is WP:VERIFY, and no information which is unverifiable should remain on WP, if you look at WP as an encyclopedia/gazette. I reviewed quite a few of your articles today, most of which I marked "reviewed" (such as 8th Central Committee of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party, 10th Politburo of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party, Kim Yong-bom, Inspection Commission of the Workers' Party of Korea, 8th Central Committee of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party). As far as my logs show, I can't find any of your articles which I nominated for deletion, either through Prod, CSD, or AfD. I could have nominated all 4 of those I moved to draft, since all were uncited, but I felt moving them to draft in order to give you a chance to expand the references was the more polite thing to do. Remember that it is WP policy that any unreferenced material may be deleted at any time, and should not be re-added until appropriate citations are added (as per WP:BURDEN). As per Rosguill, not sure what you're referring to when you bring up "LPRP". I'll let your uncivil comments slide for the moment. Onel5969 TT me 22:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
@Rosguill and Onel5969: If what you're telling me is true.. then well maybe I'm just a whiny bastard! (it might very well be the case). However these are referenced

And there are more!

I would rather that you wrote me a message saying "Please add sources or I have to delete them" rather than moving those articles to draft. But maybe you're right. Maybe I would complain in that too. If so, I won't do it in the future. --Ruling party (talk) 23:56, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Ruling party, looking through those examples, none of them are articles that Onel5969 moved to draftspace. While they did restore them to their preexisting redirect revisions, at the time they did so each of those articles was totally unreferenced, making Onel5969's edit the correct move in that juncture. signed, Rosguill talk 00:11, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
The Draft:2nd Politburo of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party has been rejected three times (two times with references) @Rosguill:
But yes—you are right—I mixed up users.
Therefore I have to admit the following; I was rash. My apologies to you Onel5969. I was both rash, stupid and ignorant. My fault completely. I was angry at the system and I got angry at you instead. Pathetic of me, really.--Ruling party (talk) 00:14, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Ruling party, thank you for that. One of my biggest issues, as Rosguill knows, is civility. Yet I also understand how frustrated it can be when you see your hard work either deleted or challenged. As Rosguill said earlier, your work in an area that the project needs help in is admirable. Experienced editors simply wish you to spend a bit more time fleshing out the sourcing for those articles. There are a few more articles which you have created which have not yet been reviewed. I would suggest you go back over them and work on the references (in some instances there are zero). It gives me, or any other NPP reviewer, joy to move an article to draftspace. It is always more gratifying to pass it as reviewed (which I have said I have done to several of your articles). But even those I marked reviewed could well stand more sources. Keep in mind that a single source is rarely acceptable in the long run. But on those that I reviewed, that single reference was enough to pass notability. I hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 00:53, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Starveling

Hello User: Onel5969, I do not agree with your reset. I'm new to the enWP. Where can we clarify whether this article will be kept? BR, Asurnipal (talk) 13:53, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Asurnipal, hi, and welcome to English WP. Every WP has different standards and guidelines, and ENWP has some of the most stringent. You can always ask questions on editor's talkpages (as you did here) or at WP:TEAHOUSE. Two key issues are notability (see WP:GNG) and verifiability (see WP:VERIFY). The issue with the article you tried to create is that it is virtually unsourced. You added two references, one is a bad link, and the other is for a specific instance you describe in the article. The issue with the second one is that it doesn't seem to mention the incident with the unpaid phone bill at all. First, you need to establish notability. To do that, you need several articles which go in-depth about the article's subject. Then, you also need sources for every assertion which you make in the article. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 14:03, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello Onel5969, in my opinion the defects you have described are not a reason for deletion, maybe a reason for improvement (quality assurance). I will be able and happy to make improvements at any time. In this way I can learn how to do it at the enWP myself. So please restore the item. If you are unable to do so, where can I request this verification? Thanks for your help, BR, Asurnipal (talk) 15:55, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Asurnipal, first, they are definitely grounds for removal. One of the policies of WP is that unsourced material can be removed at any time, and then, as per WP:BURDEN, may not be re-added without appropriate citations from independent, reliable sources. Therefore, I can't restore the article. What could happen is that I could move it into Draftspace where you could work on it. If you would like me to do that for you, let me know. Onel5969 TT me 15:57, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello Onel5969, I would like to hear a third opinion, is that okay for you? BR, Asurnipal (talk) 16:01, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Asurnipal I will be happy to offer a third opinion, as the article isn't actually deleted and is saved in the history. I have looked it over and am confused if the article is speaking about an English term starveling or the German term Hungerleider. Most of this seems to be an opinion or original research on the use of the term. This may very well be suitable as a topic with the proper citations and probably should be worked on in the draft space as opposed to the main space where is subject to removal if it does not meet the criteria for inclusion or verifiability. I would recommend that we transfer the page to Draft:Starveling where you can work on it and get feedback with less chance of deletion. Then we can recreate the redirect until such time the article is ready for the main space. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 16:17, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello McMatter, thank you very much for your opinion. The article describes something, namely a term that has roughly the same meaning in several languages. This is also related to the history of the language, how did these languages ​​come about and how did they influence each other. In addition, e.g. the references to places in the Czech Republic that were German-speaking in earlier times or were influenced by German-speaking people. Apparently I haven't worked this out well enough in English that it is understandable at first glance. Even if, in your opinion and that of Onel5969, the article does not fully correspond to what is expected in enWP, it can still be used in many areas, as it is about explanations that do not contain any further Proof required. In my opinion, the first paragraph can easily remain. And so we could work our way through here, as is usual with quality assurance in other WP projects. For me, however, a complete deletion is incomprehensible, and that I am now supposed to work on it as a draft, without knowing what is actually wrong with it. Of course, there is also the language barrier, where I certainly have other language-social backgrounds that can lead to irritations. But I believe that this can also be resolved together. Isn't such an approach better? SG
Asurnipal I will try and put this simply. Of the 2 references included in the article one is unreachable and is basically a dictionary site the other is a stretch on a possible use of the word. Everything else is unsupported by any sourcing, this is always subject to removal. What needs to be done for this to be included in the English Wikipedia is provide more sources that discuss the history of this term and its use. Please take a look at WP:NEO for more information on how Wikipedia look at these topics in particular. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 17:21, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Asurnipal - Also, please read the links already provided for you, WP:GNG and WP:VERIFY. Any article on WP must comply with those two policies. That's not an opinion, that's policy. Onel5969 TT me 17:24, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
OK, understood. BR, Asurnipal (talk) 19:01, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

About Laudi Khela article

Hii am user Behera Sahab, I noticed that you are redirected the page of Laudi Khela as per AFD, but there is more and reliable sources. Ao Please I request to you please visit this sources , before new redirecting. Thanks Behera Sahab (talk) 16:25, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Behera Sahab, it has nothing to do with your sourcing. It was redirected as the result of an AfD, and a pretty recent one. I'm not commenting on the quality of your research, this is simply a procedural matter. Since the AfD is so recent, you should take it through DRV. Your rationale for recreating the article seems to meet one of the requirements for that as per WP:DRVPURPOSE. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 16:32, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

AMSCOL notability tag

Since you put a notability tag at AMSCOL, you might want to see my comments at Talk:AMSCOL. (I thought it was best to have any discussion there). Adpete (talk) 05:32, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

moved landmine article to draft space due to lack of sources

Hi Onel5969 I have noticed you have moved my A.P. Mine E.P. Mark VI article to draft space due to a lack of sources. I see why you did this and agree with you the article should have had more sources.All my other mine articles have been checked for at least two sources and those that did not have this had them added in. In future two sources will be the minimum for my articles. So I have implemented your feedback and will do so in future thanks for taking the time to assess my article! Anonymous contributor 1707 (talk) 13:17, 31 January 2021 (UTC).

Nomination of SDSU Sports Deck for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article SDSU Sports Deck is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SDSU Sports Deck until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 16:41, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

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