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Archive 76:March 2021

Amiya

Hi, You reverted my edit on Amiya but I do not understand why. Amiya was redirecting to Amaya even though the two words are different and there's no mention of Amiya on Amaya. What's more, Amiya does have a meaning in Arabic which is "colloquial version of the language" (see for instance: http://etheses.uin-malang.ac.id/16250/ ). Could you please explain why you reverted my edit? Best, A455bcd9 (talk) 14:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, could you please answer my question? Or should I consider that I can revert your edit? Best, A455bcd9 (talk) 09:26, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
A455bcd9, the main reason is that Amiya is not mentioned in the article on arabic dialects. Therefore, that only leaves a single viable direction, and that's to the amaya dab, as a variant spelling. Onel5969 TT me 12:19, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi onel5969, "amiya" is mentioned but with a different spelling because it's a transliteration of Arabic: "a local colloquial variety (called العامية, al-ʿāmmiyya in many Arab countries, meaning "slang" or "colloquial"; or called الدارجة, ad-dārija, meaning "common or everyday language" in the Maghreb), in different aspects of their lives.". "al-ʿāmmiyya" is also spelled in the references cited "'ÂMIYYA", "amiya", or "a’amiya". That's why I edited this page. Amiya is not a variant spelling of amaya in Arabic and amiya is not mentioned as a variant spelling of Amaya on the dab page so I think the current redirection does not make sense. What do you think? Best A455bcd9 (talk) 14:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi Onel5969, What do you think? A455bcd9 (talk) 09:02, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
A455bcd9, sorry, missed the original what do you think. Based on your rationale above, I agree that the dab is warranted. Onel5969 TT me 12:02, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Reverts on United Nations Articles

I am working to improve the consistency of the United Nations goodwill ambassadors articles to reflect a consistent style that is being emulated by the United Nations using abbreviations. While I do not know everything there is to know about Wikipedia, I am very meticulous and consistent to follow up with details and improvements including updating the Wikidata. If there is something I am doing is wrong or prohibited please let me know. Problemsmith (talk) 13:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Problemsmith, hi, and thanks for your efforts. However, as I pointed out in my edit summary, what you are doing is called "cut and paste" (see WP:CUTANDPASTE). It has to do with attribution. When you do that, you hide the editing history of the page. What you need to do is "move" the page to the correct title. If you can't do that because there is currently a redirect page, you must request that redirect be deleted in order to move the page (request a speedy deletion using G6, and just state that you intend to move the page to the correct title). Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 13:18, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
onel5969, thank you for the guidance. I have never done it this way before but understand the importance of preserving the past edits and talk page. I am sure it is not that complicated to learn to do it the right way. Thank you very much for your help. Problemsmith (talk) 13:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Re: Klarisse de Guzman

The article Klarisse de Guzman was an article for deletion in 2017 when she had no significant accomplishments yet. But after the said year, the Filipino singer/celebrity had more accomplishments including albums, awards, and being a contestant in two celebrity competitions. She wouldn't be in We Love OPM and Your Face Sounds Familiar if she were not a celebrity. Klarisse de Guzman is not an AFD as of 2021; and this current version of Klarisse de Guzman article is not the 2017 version but rather an updated version.

The article also satisfied more than one of the notability criteria for music. 1. subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works (none of the references are self-published) 2. has released two or more albums on a major record label (Klarisse and Klarisse de Guzman are two separate albums from mainstream record labels) 3. has won or been nominated for a major music award 4. has won first, second or third place in a major music competition (Klarisse is the first runner-up of The Voice PH; 2nd place of We Love OPM) 5. has performed music for a work of media that is notable (Klarisse sang theme songs of TV shows of ABS-CBN network) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbhpiamonte (talk • contribs) 03:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Deletion review for Klarisse de Guzman

I have asked for a deletion review of Klarisse de Guzman. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Sbhpiamonte (talk) 15:34, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

당신을 위한 반스타!

오리지널 반스타
I appreciate you for your devotion. 칼빈500 (talk) 10:10, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you 칼빈500. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 17:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for reviewing my articles! The Sokks💕 (talk) 11:01, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you TheSokks, keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 17:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Splitting discussion for H-II Transfer Vehicle

An article that been involved with (H-II Transfer Vehicle) has content that is proposed to be removed and moved to another article (HTV-X). If you are interested, please visit the discussion. Thank you. Fukumoto (talk) 12:51, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Relapse 2 page removal

Hi there, I recently saw that you removed the Relapse 2 page, which I agree with. However, the deletion was reverted right after, and I think it’s necessary that you delete it again, as there is no need for the page. The album, by Eminem, was never even released, and the page creator is even putting the album in Eminem’s chronology, which does not follow the guidelines at all and is misinformation.

Please let me know if you can sort this, as I believe that the page creator and other will keep unnecessarily reverting its deletion.

Joeee777 Joeee777 (talk) 01:36, 5 March 2021 (UTC)


RareConnect Page

Hello Onel5969! I have a quick question. I saw that you reviewed a page of mine recently (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RareConnect) and it shows that it could possible be marked as spam. I am newer to Wiki and I am trying my best to add to the community. I've read through a ton of the guidelines to page creation here and I even used a similar wiki page for my creation efforts strcuturally. Is there something I can do differently? thank you so much for your feedback! SeanRMull (talk) 13:17, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

SeanRMull, lol, it's actually not a quick question, but I'll try to answer it as best I can. First, I would point you to WP:NPOV, and if you have an interest regarding RareConnect, than I would also point you to WP:COI. Editors who are attempting to write articles face a strange tension, they have to show that what they are writing is notable, yet they have to do it in a way which is not promotional. The key is to let the facts speak for themselves. Don't use WP:PEACOCK words or phrases. Your article probably came up as possible spam since it talks about what the organization offers. Many times that can be seen as promotional, but you presented it in a straightforward fashion, so I didn't have an issue with it. Be aware that other editors might have issue with it, that's why consensus is so important on WP. BTW, looking at other articles is a good way to learn, but also understand that WP:OSE. When choosing subjects to write about, simply look for things which either meet one of the Subject-specific notability guidelines (WP:SNG), or one which has several in-depth stories about it from reliable sources, so that it passes WP:GNG. When dealing with organizations and companies, you must also take into account WP:CORPDEPTH. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 15:20, 5 March 2021 (UTC)


Onel5969 ok great! thank you so much for taking the time to explain that to me. I am going to read through those pages as I do not want to make anyone mad around here! I have been a fan of wiki for a long while now and just recently thought about adding to the site where I can. Again thank you for the great insight. SeanRMull (talk) 15:40, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Laura Elizabeth Hill Mclaughlin

Hi @Onel5969: How goes it? I had to withdraw that prod on Laura Elizabeth Hill Mclaughlin. She is absolutely notable. There was a couple of obits out there, one of the American Association of Scientists. You can't get a better reference than that. It is a wee seed article, and I plan to add an image and infobox. Thanks for finding it, in the sea of articles. scope_creepTalk 14:57, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Scope creep, didn't know that about AAS. When I read it, even the obit seemed unimpressive, more of she was the wife of... Regardless, thanks for the explanation, and thanks for yll you do here on WP. Onel5969 TT me 15:23, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
@Onel5969: That is an excellent list of articles you have created. Great work. scope_creepTalk 15:37, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

"refimprove" tag

Hi Onel5969,

I sent you an email as well..

I am a co-owner of the Point La Vista page that you put the "refimprove" tag on. We have received approval to have the tag removed but wanted to see if you wouldn't mind rechecking the page for us. If you don't have time please just let me know.. thx!!

Debbie — Preceding unsigned comment added by PointLaVista (talk • contribs) 18:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

PointLaVista, hi. First of all, no one "owns" a page (see WP:OWN), and second, who gave you approval? Just curious. You don't need approval to remove a tag, you simply remove it. If another editor objects to the removal, they'll put it back, and then a discussion would ensue on the article's talk page. Another question, do you have a WP:COI with the page? Onel5969 TT me 19:54, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Just took a look at. You've done a good job at adding citations, but there are still quite a few bits that need footnotes. Onel5969 TT me 19:56, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi Onel5969, Thank you for responding so promptly!! I went back and read the email and I just read it wrong, no one gave approval. Also, there is no COI as I don't know any of these people and have no external relationship to them either. We will look at putting in more footnotes. Thanks Again!! DebbiePointLaVista (talk) 21:57, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
PointLaVista, cool. Keep up the good work.Onel5969 TT me 23:15, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Government of Somaliland

Hi. Hope all is well with you. You might want to have a look at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Government of Somaliland Regards. --John B123 (talk) 23:13, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

John B123, thanks. Just reverted again, citing SPLIT and BRD. We'll see. Onel5969 TT me 23:15, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Sara Tea

Can you please explain your reasoning for adding Template:Advert to the Sara Tea page? What part sounds like an advertisement? There isn't promotional content and it is 100% neutral. Alexmarie (talk) 03:10, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Since you haven't yet responded to my message from yesterday, I'm going to go in and remove that template from the page. I disagree that it sounds like an advertisement, but if you want to discuss your reasonings, I'm all ears. Alexmarie (talk) 07:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Supercopa do Brasil Revert

Why are you reverting the article about 2021 Supercopa do Brasil? It's an annual event, where the participants are already defined, and there is no news about cancelation of this competition. Tiagomagalhaes (talk) 15:15, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Tiagomagalhaes, because it's uncited. Onel5969 TT me 15:19, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Something that is deductable. Ok. Tiagomagalhaes (talk) 15:23, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


Deprodding of Museum of the Battle of Legnica

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Deprodding of Open-air museum of the Forest Railway in Janów Lubelski

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Redirect of Reagan Charleston

The redirect of Reagan Charleston is unnecessary. There is notability independent of the television show. She is an American jewelry designer and her products are sold in several countries. Wuk9494 (talk) 05:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Great Learning (Company)

I noticed you deleted my article on Great Learning citing reasons for G11 Unambiguous advertising or promotion. While creating this article I tried my best to keep the content neutral as well as ensure I have quality citations. Do let me know if corporate notability was an issue, since you did not mention this. If the tone was incorrect, kindly forgive me if I got this wrong in my attempt to create an article, I sincerely request you to roll back your decision and allow me the chance to improve the article. I am still learning to make quality contributions by reading up on the guidelines extensively but a little guidance to the right direction will help tremendously. Kingzod (talk) 15:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Kingzod, hi, not sure about notability, since once I flag it for advertising, I stopped checking for notability. But to show notability, you'd need several in-depth articles about the company to show it passes WP:GNG, in addition, they need to be from several areas of the country/world, in order to pass WP:CORPDEPTH. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 16:03, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to respond and sharing your insight.

The Edtech space in India in booming and the country has grown to be the Edtech capital of the world as mentioned in the article below. Great Learning is among the leading players in the edtech space in India. This article - [1] also mentions the company

Here are a few sources: [2], [3], [4], [5].

I believe the sources mentioned above show that the article meets the general notability criteria. I request you to once again reconsider your actions, if you roll back the article it will allow me to revise the tone and improve my contribution. Kingzod (talk) 10:08, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Kingzod, yup, with those sources it would pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 13:27, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to go through the press coverage and confirm that the company meets the GNG. I request you again to kindly roll back my article so I can make the necessary improvements. You can then review the revised draft and confirm the article to the mainspace.

Once again, I appreciate your prompt responses and assistance. Kingzod (talk) 13:12, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Onel5969, getting a feel of COI or PAID here? Ravensfire (talk) 13:43, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Ravensfire, their other edits, although sparse, are mostly on racing articles, so could be, but not sure. Onel5969 TT me 23:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello again, kindly allow me to clear the doubts here. I am a student with interests in cars and motorsports. Over the last year I’ve been taking online courses from multiple Indian and International E-learning platforms. This is also the time I started to make contributions to Wikipedia and attempted to create an article. I have no association with these people, racing teams or organisations. This conversation has been a good learning for me to understand how I can improve my contributions, looking forward to senior editors like yourself to help me complete my submission. Kingzod (talk) 09:07, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Bachelor of Homeopathic Medicine and Surgery

Garad Abun

I see you tagged Garad Abun Adashe for deletion and I just removed it, is there a policy that it must be deleted if a sock creates it or can it be kept? The article is useful and I want to improve it in the future. Magherbin (talk) 20:40, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Spinalcord.com

I see my page has been marked for deletion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SeanRMull:/Spinalcord.com . This is another page that I built around a medical resource group. I have done one other in the past. I am confused because it does not seem to be much different than that of some of the other medical resource platform pages. I can drop the website design breakdown if that makes it feel as if it is being promoted...? I will do a complete rewrite and send it off to be approved before publishing it as a live page. I do not want to anger anyone in the wiki community. I am still new at it and learning the ropes. I have started another sandbox page in order to re work it. Thank you again for any type of feedback SeanRMull (talk) 19:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

NECHE is indisputably notable

I'm not trying to start an edit war but I am willing to invoke WP:IAR in this instance because the subject is indisputably notable. If you do not know what an institutional accreditor is or what that specific organization does, I strongly recommend you take the time to look into it; this article may be helpful. If you do that and still believe that the organization isn't notable, you'll need to get to work nominating all of the other institutional accreditors for deletion, too, because this was the only one without its own article:

This is definitely a stub article and needs a lot of improvement. But that's never been a valid reason to delete or redirect an article on an otherwise notable topic. ElKevbo (talk) 14:20, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

ElKevbo, other than the fact that it currently is not sourced well enough to pass WP:GNG, you mean? WP:OSE is a pointless argument, simply provide in-depth sourcing. Onel5969 TT me 14:23, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm really trying to be collegial and friendly but you are out of your depth if you don't understand that this organization is notable. I completely agree that the current article is a stub and I'll try to find time to continue working on the article but I assure you that an AfD for any of these organizations, including this one, would be a snow keep.
I also don't understand why you believe you have the ability to subvert AfD in this instance. Of course, you are welcome to submit this article to AfD but I don't understand why you are unilaterally empowered to delete the article or redirect it without any discussion. ElKevbo (talk) 14:35, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
ElKevbo, well, calling someone "out of your depth" is pretty funny way of being friendly. You don't seem to be aware of WP:GNG, so it's difficult to have a conversation with you. No one is saying this organization is not notable. All that has been said is that is a crappy article, with incredibly poor sourcing, which needs to be improved to remain on mainspace. So improve the article. No one is stopping you, except yourself by wasting time like this. Onel5969 TT me 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
I've created the article and you're welcome to nominate it for deletion if you believe that it's completely deficient. ElKevbo (talk) 15:08, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

BBC Sessions (The Searchers album)

Dear Onel5969, thanks for review of the Searchers BBC Sessions page, but it doesn't work now, it is redirect to The Searchers (band) :-) Huttershofen (talk) 16:35, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Huttershofen, hi. That's because it wasn't sourced well enough to pass WP:GNG or WP:NALBUM. To pass ALBUM it either has to have charted on a major chart, or there have to be several in-depth reviews of the album. If you can provide those, then it will pass. The article is still there, just redirected to the band for now. Onel5969 TT me 16:44, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
onel5969, Oh I see, OK, thanks, I will try to make it better....Huttershofen (talk) 21:03, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Huttershofen, cool. Good luck. Feel free to message me back if you want me to take another look after you improve it. Onel5969 TT me 21:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
onel5969, Hi, I've tried but I think I've failed. And it's hard for me to write these articles in English (I'm from Prague, Czech Republic). Each of those took hours for me, so I'm very sorry, I've lost enthusiasm. If The Swedish Radio Sessions was the same problem, it will be the same for all of the Searchers' collectors CDs I've made... Maybe somebody from the UK will make it better. Never mind, best wishes... ;-) Huttershofen (talk) 21:52, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Huttershofen, welcome, brother. My family hails from Moravia (one part of it, anyway). I'm not a big Searchers' fan, but on BBC Sessions I did find this review, see this. Incorporate it into the article and I think that puts it over the edge of GNG, as well as NALBUM. And if you ever get up the gumption, there's a nice little review for another of their albums, When You Walk in the Room at this source. Onel5969 TT me 22:26, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
onel5969 Wow, the world is so small! :-D OK, I will try it... Lukas Huttershofen (talk) 10:11, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
onel5969 Eh, I want to be fair, it is a review of a different album by the Searchers, not the BBC Sessions :-( Huttershofen (talk) 10:34, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

The Circle (British series 3)

Hello – I saw you nominated The Circle (British series 3) for speedy deletion due to it being the creation of a sock. The reason I draftified that one in particular is because I've always edited articles relating to the series and it would be a shame for it to be deleted, since the series airs soon and it would be a loss of progress. I wanted to clear that up in case you think I'm affiliated with the sock – I'm not, and have actually had various arguments with them lol (I did also accuse them of being ZestyLemonz over three months ago too, but my accusations were shut down). – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 16:53, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

DarkGlow, no worries. Thanks for the heads up. The speedy deletion criteria only applies if there are no significant contributions by other editors, so draftification is perfectly reasonable. There were about a half-dozen or so other articles by this sock, which had been significantly contributed to others, so I left them untagged. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 18:48, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Information icon Hello, I'm RabbitFanon2021. I saw your success on The Masked Dancer (TV series), but you provided a reliable source. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. RabbitFanon2021 (talk) 17:41, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

RabbitFanon2021, I have no idea what you're talking about. I've never edited that page. Onel5969 TT me 18:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

"refimprove" tag (2)

Hello Onel5969,

Could you please explain me how to improve the article House of Talovac again. It's already been improved. Citations to reliable sources are already added; most of them in Croatian language though, but in some other languages as well. I'm sorry that there are no more sources in English, but it's not my fault. Thank you for your answer. --Silverije 19:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Silverije, as per WP:VERIFY, everything in WP should be sourced. So, in the article, in the "Rise of the family" section, only 1 of 4 paragraphs are sourced. In the following section, only 2 of 4 are sourced. Remember, any unsourced material can be removed at any time, so it's to your benefit to provide sourcing. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 21:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Estefanía Soto

Looks like Estefanía Soto should probably be re-redirected and protected? Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:47, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Plastikspork, hmmm.... let me think about this for a second... a page sourced by FB, Instagram, Spotify, and YouTube. Yeah, probably, thrown in the tone of phrases like, "As a diva she was already involved in the world of beauty pageants when she was young", and looks like you have a fan who is going to be pretty persistent about recreation. Taking it to AfD is definitely an option to get community consensus. If you want, I'll nominate it, but I think it's simply a waste of editors' time. Onel5969 TT me 16:55, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
If you check the edit history, I tried to fix the infobox, massive Puerto Rico flag, and missing bio categories, but the new owner immediately reverts any changes. I can't really touch it any more and need someone else to have a look. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:58, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Plastikspork, yeah, definite fan page. Just AfD'd it. Onel5969 TT me 17:08, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Regarding deletion of page SOCIO STORY

Can u provide me the url before deleting. Allow me to make changes by providing the previous content --Svpnikhil (talk) 04:37, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Svpnikhil, not sure what you're asking about. Socio Story has been deleted. Onel5969 TT me 15:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
If want to rephrase the article, where can I find the previously written article. Please retrieve the article before deletion for improvement Svpnikhil (talk) 14:14, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Svpnikhil, you'll need to contact the admin who actually deleted the article, Seraphimblade, and ask them if they are will to recreate it in draft for you. Onel5969 TT me 14:48, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Geoffrey Hudson (composer)

Just an FYI, I have rewritten and recreated Geoffrey_Hudson_(composer), which you nominated for speedy deletion due to copyright violation. The new text has been substantially revised and should no longer borrow from any external sources. Please let me know if there are any remaining copyright issues that need to be addressed. Jmads-nu (talk) 14:09, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Jmads-nu, no, it looks okay now. Not sure if you created the original article, but please be aware that WP takes copyvio very seriously. You've written a nice article, keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 14:49, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the constructive feedback :) Jmads-nu (talk) 20:12, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Regarding deletion of page Socio Story

Hi! I appreciate your active contributions for Wikipedia and making it credible, but you have deleted Socio Story without evaluating it and flagged it as advertisement, I am putting the facts & rational as an why this page should exist here. 1. Socio Story is a not for profit popular platform of India which does advocacy on various social pressing issues like climate change, 2. Platform has been highly appreciated by people like Dr. Andrew Fleming, British Deputy High Commissioner (Please find screenshot) 3. It has hosted several globally recognized people like Ricky Kej, Grammy Winner, Lonnie Park, Grammy Nominee, Dr. Rajendra Singh- Ramon Magsaysay awardee, Dr. Anil Prakash Joshi, Padma Bhushan Awardee and more than hundreds are there. 4. Socio Story was awarded by Colgate Palmolive with scholarship for its social impact. 5. It has social media verified accounts which reflects its popularity

Socio Story is a popular platform in India which supports Not for profits to raise their voices, if you still feel your decision is only right and you can delete it as you have all the rights, but deliberately deleting some notable page is not appreciated. You can decide the rest. Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkp1990 (talk • contribs) 14:21, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Mkp1990, are you related to user Svpkikhil? Onel5969 TT me 14:50, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
onel5969 He (Mkp1990) is the founder of that NGO. I created that article by taking references from him Svpnikhil (talk) 14:57, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Svpnikhil, thanks for that. Are you getting paid to write that article? If so, please see WP:UPE, and you'll have to go through AfC. At least, it appears you have a definite WP:COI issue, and you'll need to address that on your talk page. Onel5969 TT me 14:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
No no , Im not paid. Im voluntarily contributing in wikipedia since 7 years. He came to know about me through a mutual friend (my classmate) that Im a wikipedian so he approached me and I wrote article. I never charge for writing in wikiepdia. I respect wiki policies. Svpnikhil (talk) 15:12, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Shapira

Hi. I've taken a shortcut moving both the article AND the talk-page by cut-and-paste. Is there still a problem then? I can only think of the very unlikely possibility of dialogues on user talk-pages where certain edits are discussed and linked by their URL, but if one hits the redirect, that is solved as well, or am I overlooking smth? This article hardly has any talk-page content, so that seems very far-fetched. Now I looked up the correct procedure and have applied for removal of the redirect, so that a proper move can be made. Btw, you left the talk-page where I've moved it by cut-and-paste, so the tandem article - talk-page is twisted in a funny way now :) Arminden (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Arminden, hi. I'm not sure which articles you're speaking about, Shapira is a dab page which doesn't look like I've touched. Onel5969 TT me 14:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi. It's Moses Shapira, which needs to move to Moses Wilhelm Shapira. But now it's all done, I was more interested in the procedure & its logic. Trying to learn. Thank you! Arminden (talk) 16:24, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Arminden, cool. Cut and pasting (WP:CUTANDPASTE) is not allowed on WP for attribution reasons. What needs to be done is to MOVE the page, which you can't do since a redirect is blocking the move. You're request to delete that to allow the move is the exact right procedure. Sorry about the confusion. Onel5969 TT me 16:27, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Just a minute. I did read the instructions you pointed me to, so this I knew now already. The question was: since Wikipedia tells us to ignore rules which make the content poorer, and as I did copy & paste both the article AND its talk-page to the new name, what was the downside of not going the long way? Since it wasn't me who created the redirect, removing it will probably take longer, if accepted at all, so the article is now blocked with the wrong name. The man is known and quoted by his complete name. I guess there must be lots of Moses Shapiras, but just one who's also Wilhelm. So you see. Arminden (talk) 16:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Arminden, while IAR does say that, hiding attribution screws around with copyright stuff, which is one of the few things which is inviolable on WP. There is another way to do what you did, which is to do the cut and paste move, and then request a history merge (WP:HISTMERGE). However, I find that this tends to confuse more folks in the short run. Hope that makes more sense now. Onel5969 TT me 16:46, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Now I understand! So the history doesn't move along with the rest? Then no, of course, discussion is over. I didn't grasp that point, although now that you mention I think there was smth. on the instructions page. Now it sunk in. Thanks, and sorry to have bothered you with what might seem trivial once you get it. Arminden (talk) 18:45, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Arminden, not trivial. And you didn't bother me. Happy to help. Sometimes when writing comments, it makes so much sense, but then the other person reads it differently. No worries, keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 19:22, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Automated edit reversion at Mehora

Hi Onel5969,

I just noticed that my recent edit at Mehora got reverted not long after I did it, which apparently happened via Twinle, saying that the sources I cited did not indicate that the place exists. I'm not sure how that happened and I assume it's a bug of some sort, but I wanted to check with you before reverting the reversion and make sure there were no objections. Would you be OK with me restoring my previous edit?

Thanks, 3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 00:18, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

3 kids in a trenchcoat, hi. No, it wasn't a mistake, and even though I use Twinkle, it's not automated. The issue is the first source doesn't mention Mehora, but Mahaura, which you do reference as an alternate spelling. There are actually two issues with this ref. First, it's not reliable, second, while you say it's an alternate spelling, the source does not. The second reference doesn't reference either Mehora or Mahaura. I think that second link should be this, rather than the link you provided. Also, you need to give the exact page the info is cited on. I did a search of both Mehora and Mahaura and found nothing in the document. Page 150 in that document gives an alphabetical list of villages in Lucknow, and neither of those names are mentioned. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 01:07, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Onel5969, the census doc lists Mehora on pages 139 and 141-47. Page 138 also has a corresponding map which shows Mehora in the same location as Geonames does. I guess the question here is whether connecting the two counts as original research. Would Google Maps count as a more reliable source? Because it also shows Mehora in the same spot: [6]
Regards, 3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 01:41, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Fouad Brini's Article

Hello onel5969,

Thank you for your feedback. I would like to point out that the article is linked to the Tanger Med page, also named Tanger Med Special Agency. You can see that Fouad Brini is listed as president on the French wikipedia page of Tanger Med. Here is a list of articles, about the nomination of Fouad Brini, as a public figure and president of Tanger Med: https://oxfordbusinessgroup.com/interview/obg-talks-fouad-brini-president-supervisory-council-tangiers-mediterranean-special-agency-tmsa https://www.sumitomocorp.com/en/easia/news/release/2019/group/12610 https://www.jeuneafrique.com/76308/archives-thematique/un-ing-nieur-aux-commandes/ Sincerely. --Nadinasol (talk) 10:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Vote stacking at your Notre Dame AfDs

Hi Onel, unfortunately there was an attempt at vote stacking at your Notre Dame AfDs. I warned the user and noted it on the AfDs for the closer. I didn't take it to ANI in hopes that it stops, but I'm not sure it will. Best wishes from Los Angeles.  // Timothy :: talk  11:00, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

TimothyBlue, thanks for that. I mean, it will be obvious to the closer (or should be) that the keep !votes are all WP:ILIKEIT, with no basis in policy. Usually when I send something to AfD, I don't comment again. I've already done it more than I like in these AfD's. But thanks for the head's up. Onel5969 TT me 12:46, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Moving articles

Hello, Onel5969,

I see you move quite a few articles into draft space. Unless they are new articles, it would be very helpful if you could check to see if they have any redirects that can be tagged for deletion. Most articles that have been around for years have several and I've come across articles that were moved to draft space that had as many as 10 associated redirects that then had to be deleted.

If you are moving an article just to new title in main space, please leave a redirect and then one of our helpful bots can change all the redirects to the new title. But since we don't have cross-space redirects, that is not possible with a move to draft space and those can be checked by an editor by looking at "What links here". Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 05:42, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Liz, will do on the redirects, Liz. I rarely move an article to draftspace which is older than 2 months. As part of NPP, I do the back of the queue mostly. That way, as per WP:DRAFTIFY, editors have been notified of the need to improve the article (for one of several reasons), and if no improvement has been made, and yet it looks to possibly be notable, I'll draftify it. The only thing I can think of if I move an older article, is in the cases of discovered UPE. And if I move an article to a new title in mainspace, I always leave a redirect, except for when I'm doing a round-robin swap. Thanks for the heads up. Onel5969 TT me 12:46, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Last Escort edits

Hello! Thank you for trying to help with this page. Much of the information you removed as 'uncited' actually was cited, including the existence of an entire game in the series (Club Katze), as well as the famous voice actors. I will go back through later and make sure that the references are clearly noted. The content about the first two games was translated from Japanese Wikipedia which is more lax on references, so I will make sure to check for sources on that content as well. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 06:05, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

I have reinstated the section on Club Katze as it seems you may have missed the list of reliable sources (all are major gaming magazines) citing it at the bottom of that section. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 06:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Londonbeat41692, I indeed miss those citations at the end of the section. Apologies. Onel5969 TT me 12:47, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Regarding edit revertion of Back to Mine: Röyksopp

Hello.
You've reverted my edit of Back to Mine: Röyksopp per WP:NALBUM. But I've found some sources that shows that this album meets at least two of the criteria of which only one is needed.

I've found 4 reviews of the album, one Norwegian and 3 english:
https://nattogdag.no/skiveanmeldelse/roeyksopp-back-to-mine/
https://ra.co/reviews/4580
https://www.allmusic.com/album/back-to-mine-mw0000485632
http://www.dmcworld.net/reviews/compilations/various-back-to-mine-royksopp-6044/

Also the album has appeared on Norway's national music chart:
https://norwegiancharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=R%F6yksopp&titel=Back+To+Mine&cat=a
(Original VG-lista listing: https://www.vglista.no/topplister/topp-40-album-2007-15/)
 havarhen  | Talk 14:48, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Havarhen, that's cool. Add them to the article so that it passes the notability requirements. Nice job. Onel5969 TT me 16:50, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Great! I'll do that :-)  havarhen  | Talk 17:18, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Happy St. Patrick's Day

Happy St. Patrick's Day!
I hope your St. Patrick's Day is enjoyable and safe. Hopefully next year there will be more festive celebrations.
Best wishes from Los Angeles.   // Timothy :: talk 
Hi Timothy - missed this. Thank you so much. Onel5969 TT me 12:42, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

RETN

Dear Friend, I'm a very inexperienced Wikipedia user, therefore I think that reverting your changes wouldn't be appropriate, but I'd like to ask you to rethink deleting the RETN page. It's the 12th biggest ISP creating a backbone of the whole internet, and responsible for nearly half of the internet traffic between EU and Eastern Europe/Asia, therefore I think it deserves its Wikipedia page. If you do not agree with me, then please also delete redirections from Tier 1 and Tier 2 articles and other languages, because it became a bit messy now. Otherwise please help to improve the article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piotrek2234 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Piotrek2234, no worries. To see what qualifies as notable take a look at WP:GNG, and since this is a company, also look at WP:CORPDEPTH. In a nutshell, you need in-depth coverage from several sources about the company. Not brief mentions, not directory listings, and the sources have to be independent, so nothing from the company itself, or a trade organization, which is what you currently used to cite the article.
In general, I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:
You may also want to take the Wikipedia Adventure, an interactive tour that will help you learn the basics of editing Wikipedia. You can visit The Teahouse to ask questions or seek help. Onel5969 TT me 20:23, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Genozip

Dear Friend, I see you deleted my responses related to the commentator advocating the removal of Genozip due to "outing". What this person did is highly, highly unethical and in blatent violation of Wikipedia's COI policies. He is the senior engineer at the largest competitor of Genozip. I am not sure if he acted in his personal capacity or at instruction of his company, but in any event, the fact that he would go to such an extreme measure of risking his reputation with an ethical violation is itself a testiment to the notability of Genozip in the field. Please kindly advise, given the outing policy, how does one defend oneself from such predatory behavior. Thanks! Jokerman71 (talk) 23:40, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Jokerman71, what you did will get you banned from WP. As I said in my edit summaries, what you did violated WP:OUTING. To defend yourself from such behavior, a first step is to not write a blatantly COI article. And you did it twice. What they did violated NO policy. They did not !vote at the AfD, and even if they did, as long as their !vote was based on policy, would have been perfectly fine. I understand you feel affronted, and in their shoes, I would have remained silent. However what you did, by WP standards, is simply not allowed. That being said, you might ask your question, in a more neutral tone, at WP:TEAHOUSE. I would not accuse anyone of unethical behavior. But ask the question in as generic a manner as possible. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 23:58, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the explanation. I am new to this and trying to do the right thing. Jokerman71 (talk) 07:17, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Good evening, in effort to address the comments on the Talk and voting pages, I have edited the article text to qualify some of the statements. I have also added secondary sources - bringing it to a total of 6 secondary sources in a addition to 2 primary sources. The secondary sources include three review articles specifically about this software (in English, Japanese and Korean) and three academic papers about other compression tools, that benchmark against this software. Would you be able to take another look? Thanks & appreciate your time on this. Jokerman71 (talk) 10:27, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Jokerman71, hi. First, you should stop editing the article. As a COI editor, you should be requesting changes to the article on the talk page, and then uninterested editors will make the decision of whether or not to make the edits. My advice to you is to go to the AfD discussion and simply politely ping the 4 editors who have voted to delete and ask them to take another look at the article since you've added the sources. Onel5969 TT me 12:41, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. 49.178.61.199 (talk) 15:32, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion of Noshery

I see you have proposed the deletion of the Noshery page. I can understand why; it's still only half an article. I'm trying to get some more properly sourced material, so I'd appreciate if you would let the article sit just a bit longer. If I can't find any good sources, I'll take it down. LewisEisen (talk) 00:00, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

LewisEisen, if you want to work on it, I can move it into draft for you, so that you can spend some time on it. Onel5969 TT me 00:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

That's a kind offer, thank you. I'd like to do that, but I wonder if we can hold off for a couple of days. A number of people had promised sources to me, so I've just directed them to the page so they can see what I have already. If you could move the page into draft on, say, Sunday Mar 21, that would be appreciated. Does that work for you? LewisEisen (talk) 00:10, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

LewisEisen, prods last for 7 days, so no worry. Onel5969 TT me 00:13, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
LewisEisen, unfortunately, another editor has removed the prod. So I can either send it to AfD, or draftify it for you. Onel5969 TT me 00:18, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Well, that was quick.  :-( Sure, if you could put it in draft that would be great. LewisEisen (talk) 00:20, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

LewisEisen, done. Onel5969 TT me 00:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Seth Fedelin

Hello Onel5969! I want to edit this article but it says that it is redirected to a TV show wherein he first appeared. I just want to put the awards that he won and nominated in 2019 and in 2020, with corresponding available and valid sources. But before that, I just want to ask permission from you first before editing it. Thank you. Jayjay2020 (talk) 03:44, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Jayjay2020, unless those awards are something like the Luna Award, it won't help his notability cause. The PMPC Star Awards for Television aren't a notable enough award to pass WP:NACTOR. Onel5969 TT me 14:24, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Onel5969, Okay, thank you! I will make a sandbox for now, to include the informations about the actor. During our conversation, I renamed my username from Jayjay2020 to NewManila2000. Another question, is Box Office Entertainment Awards, or Guillermo Mendoza Memorial Scholarship Foundation Box Office Entertainment Awards notable or not, because I searched that he won a certain category in the said award giving body. NewManila2000 (talk) 03:52, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
NewManila2000, they are notable, but they are not notable enough to confer automatic notability. In other words, if an actor meets WP:NACTOR on their own, they would be notable enough to include in their article, but winning them does not make the actor pass WP:NACTOR. Onel5969 TT me 12:36, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

About Challenger (EP)

Hi, I want to ask why you turned the article into redirect again because it fits point no.1 on WP:NALBUM and also WP:FUTUREALBUM. Plus the promotion of the single is going to start on 26th this month. [1]Yolo4A4Lo (talk) 14:47, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "JO1、初冠番組『トレスギJO1』で「Born To Be Wild」テレビ初披露 與那城奨「今までにない僕たちの姿を」". Oricon (in Japanese). 16 March 2021. Retrieved 18 March 2021.
Yolo4A4Lo, hi. No it doesn't. All it has is the usual promotional cruft which comes out prior to an album. As FUTUREALBUM points out, "In a few special cases, an unreleased album may qualify for an article"... this is not one of the few. Onel5969 TT me 14:27, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Devendrakula Velalar

The Indian Lok Sabha has passed a bill to group 7 castes under Devendrakula Velalar community. I hope the page will be reverted back. Pls refer to the reference below https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/lok-sabha-okays-putting-seven-castes-under-devendrakula-vellalars/article34109785.ece/amp/# Nandivarman (talk) 16:01, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Nandivarman, then that information should be included in the existing article. Onel5969 TT me 12:44, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Massive sock

Greetings Primefac, Nick, Praxidicae, and TonyBallioni, all of whom I am pinging because of the recent SPI discussion. Am starting this discussion on my talkpage rather than clogging up one of yours. Starzoner has created a massive amount of stubs over the past few months. The vast majority of them have had no significant contributions by other editors. I've probably reviewed about a thousand of them myself. Should they all be deleted?Onel5969 TT me 21:27, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

I'd need to really think about what the damage is from deleting versus retaining, but I'd probably lean towards deletion. Nick (talk) 21:46, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Am also pinging JJMC89 - who has already deleted a few of these stubs today. I'll be happy to work on it, and I don't know if there's an auto program which can differentiate those articles created by Starzoner, which have had significant contributions by others. While not many, there are some film articles, some articles on Covid and at least one Trump list which have seen major contributions from other editors. And that's just what I found in their last 3000 or so creations. Onel5969 TT me 21:55, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Why you delete my page?

I am User:Yeeetttttboiiiii. I wonder why you deleted the page I made Survival Kit by Goodie Mob and redirected to Goodie Mob page. I hope my page can stay.

Hi. First, please remember to always sign any messages with the 4 tildes like this: ~~~~. Second, as I said in my edit summary, it does not meet WP:NALBUM. Onel5969 TT me 12:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of the State of Garbage in America

Hi, I tried to add all the info about the report I could find on the internet. I don't know if it's enough to save the article from deletion, but you can take a look. KeeperOfExplosions (talk) 21:34, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft space articles recreated

Hello, Onel5969,

You moved some of POS78's articles to Draft space and now they are recreating them in main space. This is a new one for me so I was wondering how this is usually handled. I've deleted some of them that popped up and left a talk page message but I wanted to get your input before proceeding further since you seem to have some expertise on this subject. Liz Read! Talk! 02:49, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Liz, hi! I'm going to ping Diannaa on this, since they were aware of this issue. If you look at the discussion on their talk page, found here under List of palaces in South Korea moved to draftspace, you might understand. This editor created hundreds of list articles. While the list articles are valid, and well-structured, they failed to provide the correct attribution to the other WP articles they copied information from. The list articles remained unimproved for several weeks, even after the editor had been informed of the issues. I moved them to draft space, and let them know on their talk page as to the reason, as well as to how to go about correcting the issue. I see your post on their talk page, and I understand why you put it there. However, this editor is simply recreating pages they've already created, but this time, it appears they have learned to provide attribution, as at List of caves in Zimbabwe. I had hoped they would move the drafts to mainspace, but maybe they don't have that capability. Since they are the only editor who has any significant contributions to these articles, the most expedient thing to do would probably delete the drafts, and evaluate the new mainspace articles. Is there some issue with that approach? Onel5969 TT me 03:06, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
If they are the sole contributor that should be an okay way to manage it.— Diannaa (talk) 11:11, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Diannaa, thanks. Onel5969 TT me 12:45, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Another thought: Make sure you keep the version that has all the proper attributions in the edit summaries— Diannaa (talk) 12:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Diannaa, again thanks. I think that was the point of draftification, I'll be slogging through them over the next few days. Onel5969 TT me 13:04, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

"multiple issues" flag on NGSI-LD article

Hello

I have a hard time understanding why you raised this flag about this article This article is about a technical standard, so the references it needs are the (public) official documents for the standard, which are actually given as references, These are documents from a de jure international standards organization, which are much more authoritative than regular scientific publications As you may have noticed, this article is carefully written for wikipedia, with many internal links, and is not just a copy of material published elsewhere As for notability, the standard is an official solution promoted and mandated by the European Union, intended for international use, and it is implemented in open source software . There is nothing like self-promotion or commercial advertising in there. A sample list of its uses and implementations is also provided There are not may incoming links so far, but they should come shortly, you are well aware that this visibility takes time to accrue Please explain me what I should do, we put a lot of work into this, and it is very worrying for me and the other users who contributed to get his kind of negative feedback out of the blue --Steyncham (talk) 10:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Steyncham, never said there was a promotional aspect to the article, and never said it wasn't well written. However, most of the article is unreferenced, and just because a standard exists, doesn't mean it's notable (although it probably is). That's why it got both tags but feel free to take the notability tag off if you disagree. Onel5969 TT me 13:01, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello As you will be able to see, multiple references have been added and the notability has been asserted (standard issued on request from the European Commission and promoted by it) . So I removed the issues tag which was not relevant any more--Steyncham (talk) 17:27, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Info about DEPROD

Hi, since the original "DEPRODer" did not inform you, just want to inform you that your PROD had been removed via [7] . CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

CommanderWaterford, thanks. Just sent to AfD, since andrewbot insists. Onel5969 TT me 12:47, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Michael Gruenbaum draft page

You were very helpful to me in the past, so I thought I'd ask your advice.

An entry I submitted on Michael Gruenbaum, which was a draft page that you helped me finish (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michael_Gruenbaum), was just rejected. Can you advise me on how to improve it so it gets approved?

If you recall, Mr. Gruenbaum's book on his experience growing up during the Holocaust has been reviewed by the NY Times Book Review; there’s a video interview on a fox affiliate on him; and there was a recent feature article about him in this country's premier transportation engineering magazine (ITE). I don't quite understand how the editor feels these are passing mentions. How can I get across to the editor that these are important and relevant mentions?

Thanks Placscrib (talk) 15:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Just checking on this once more - not sure if you saw. Thanks --Placscrib (talk) 16:37, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Placscrib, hi. First, I'd start a dialogue with -noah-, who is a very good AfC reviewer, and has already looked at your page in-depth. The NYT piece is very good. Interviews, however, are primary sources, and as such do not count towards notability. Personally, I disagree with that policy, but it is policy. Different reviewers see things differently. I moved your article into draftspace not because I didn't think they were notable, but because I did think they were notable, just that the article needed better referencing. I could have left it in mainspace, and removed the uncited material, but that would have gutted the article. But now it's at AfC, so I'd start a discussion with -noah- Onel5969 TT me 16:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok thanks very much! --Placscrib (talk) 16:56, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Targeting certain editors by Wikipedian Admins!

Sir, this is a really serious issue. There are some Wikipedian admins who keep targeting certain editors! I had already quoted so many references for the my WP:BLP article on the subject Priyanka Choudhary to meet it all the requirements for WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG, but I really don't understand why is Ravensfire again and again adding the [notability] template. It kind of feels silly, because there seems to be similar articles like Priyal Mahajan and Debattama Saha which have half the amount of SOURCES that I quote for my WP:BLP articles, plus these subjects Priyal Mahajan and Debattama Saha don't even fulfill WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG as much as the subject Priyanka Choudhary does! However, they do not contain any TEMPLATES. Is it that the WIKIPEDIAN ADMINS target only some EDITORS?

Because two days back in the same way Drmies (again a Wikipedia administrator) and Schazjmd had together sided up into a edit war on a SINGLE SENTENCE of an article Udaariyaan started by Fizconiz.
I had already informed Cyphoidbomb regarding the edit wars and disruptive editing cause by Fizconiz but it's shameful that the Wikipedia Admin did not take any actions. Now, I can see that these ADMINISTARTORS are very craftily using their POWER by TARGETING MY EDITS AND MY ARTICLES. It's really very shameful to see such DIRTY POLICTICS played by Wikipedia Adminstrators using their power.
I humbly request you please do something about it!--Aleyamma38 (talk) 17:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
One lead role does not tip the scale for WP:NACTOR, and looking at the first six references cited, most look like press release fare and seem to include the subject's opinions/comments, meaning that these are potentially unsuitable for satisfying the "independent" aspect of the General Notability Guideline. So Ravensfire likely has good reason to tag that article for notability concerns. Your assertion that administrators are targeting you in particular, is unfounded, but even if it was founded, it is likely that your editing style, and questionable choices you have made, are going to attract more attention. So when you choose to pick fights with people about certain phrasing, for instance arguing erroneously that "inspired from" is more correct than "inspired by", you should expect for people to look into what other edits you might have made that could have been problematic. Note also that the articles you've created are not yours. They belong to Wikipedia. See: WP:OWN. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:25, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
The admins that you are accusing of "teaming up" and "targetting" lack validity. But if you are choosing your talk page as evidence to support your claims of targetting, siding with one another, which I'm assuming you are, that's poorly chosen. This isn't some sort of competition of what edits are meant to stay that you're trying to make it seem. Once an edit is reverted, chances are there are considerable reasons for it. Once that happens, you're supposed to think why. Basic edits like where you refuse to accept the addition of one word that is grammatically correct, you're going to find yourself reaching consensus by yourself. So, that doesn't mean other contributors are trying to prove themselves right by establishing their own rules. I'm also confused as to where your of labelling me as starting an edit war arises from. Maybe this revision history? I mean, the contribution history speaks for itself of who is practising ownership of content. These aren't wicked admins that need to be penalised, just because your extremely unintelligible edit summaries aren't being followed. So the absurd phrases you are choosing like "crafting their own power" by their advantages are largely irrelevant because no one here has magic wands that embed their own rules by declaring certain spells. I hope you comprehend and don't push this small situation further to an actual serious situation. Regards, Fizconiz (talk) 20:11, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Take an afternoon off for some real world business, and see what you can get yourself into? First, I'm honored (tongue thoroughly in cheek) that you think I could do something about this situation. Second, while some WP editors (not just admins) do engage in WP:WIKIHOUNDING (I've occasionally been the target myself), that does not appear to be the instance here. Especially the two admins you mention, Drmies and Cyphoidbomb, who are outstanding admins. As Cyphoidbomb pointed out, if any editor comes across what they feel is a pattern of suspicious editing, they have every right to start looking into other edits by that editor. For example, there is another editor who has an issue with attribution when copying from other WP articles. I'm trying to help them understand why the WP policy on attribution is important, and what they need to do to adhere to it. Doesn't mean I'm hounding them. Ravensfire is a very experienced editor, whose comments on their talk page regarding this I think were handled quite civilly and well. Certainly better than I would have handled them if they were directed at me (civility is a big issue with me). They bring up reasonable concerns regarding notability about this actor. Please take a breath and understand that it does not appear that folks are targeting you. I would personally leave the notability tag alone until either an uninvolved editor removes it, or Ravensfire is satisfied enough to remove it themselves. Another very experienced reviewer, Celestina007 has already reviewed your article and passed it, so I think this is much ado about very little. I will echo what has been said to you several times, please stop with the yelling, that only weakens any argument you make.Onel5969 TT me 22:45, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Muso Kunda Museum of Women

Hello,

I noticed you have removed content from the page Muso Kunda Museum of Women, Mali, citing no references for those sections/paras. I have since restored the article's content and also added many references. I missed adding these, though these were researched in detail, as I got caught up with "work pressure" in the real world!

If you find my improvements meet your peer review of reference adequacy, please consider removing the template "Need additional citations". Malian news sources are also limited given the instability. Thanks for dropping by the article! Best Arunram (talk) 14:06, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Arunram, hi. No, it looks fine. My only issue was the sourcing, which you've now provided. Onel5969 TT me 14:47, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

ANI courtesy notification

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Aleyamma38. Thank you. Ravensfire (talk) 14:40, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Andrew Rynne

Hello. Regarding your revert on Andrew Rynne: He is the founder of Clane General Hospital, Chairman of Irish Family Planning Association, has that shooting publicity, etc. How come the topic is not notable? I just do not understand your actions. No hard feelings, but I want to understand it. Thank you and cheers. Hodxa (talk) 16:39, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Sparky0723, and their recent article creations

I noticed that you recently notified Sparky0723 of a copyright violation on Pachinko (TV series), which is why I'm writing you this message (if this is the wrong place, please let me know). He recently created Invasion (upcoming TV series), which contains copied text from this Deadline source (specifically the cast and premise). I don't think his "-Deadline" addition at the end of the premise is sufficient, but I figured you would know. Secondarily, he also seems to be stepping on others toes, by creating new articles in the main article space, when a draft of the same article already exists. I'm referring to WeCrashed, which I have heavily edited to cleanup and incorporate the changes that were in Draft:WeCrashed, which has been around for months. Like I said, if this is the wrong place to start this conversation, let me know, but I'm hoping that some action can be taken to address these two issues. Thanks for your help :) Rmaloney3 (talk) 17:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Rmaloney3, hi. Thanks for the head's up. I've removed the portion which violates copyright from the Invasion article and requested a revdel. I've also left a note on that editor's talk page regarding copyright violation. WP takes copyvios very seriously. If they continue to do it, they will get blocked, but I'm not sure when this should be ratcheted up, so am pinging Diannaa to get their input. Onel5969 TT me 17:32, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Too soon for a block I think. I've added my simplified warning at their talk page. Please let me know if the problem persists.— Diannaa (talk) 19:12, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Will do. Thanks for both of your help. Rmaloney3 (talk) 19:34, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Regarding your page review

You reviewed an article on Living prime ministers of India, kindly let me know how can I improve the article, and what are the changes required. Also, how does an article receive ratings on Quality and Importance scale, as that article has no ratings. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 14:04, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
ping to Onel5969

The Devil Is a Part-Timer! (season 1)

You didn't even check the talk page for that one. That page was copied from List of The Devil Is a Part-Timer! episodes and split into a new page. SpectresWrath (talk) 22:16, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Malolos Congress (disambiguation)

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Draft of KG0516

Hi Onel. Not sure why you drafted KG0516 for unpaid editing, as there was nothing to suggest User:SelenaGomezRevelacion, blocked for a violation of the username policy, was ever doing paid editing. That's just how some fan accounts name themselves—after their current favourite album or artist—because they're unaware of our username policy. I assume that's who you're referring to, as the other editors who've edited the topic have either been around or are new, unblocked editors. I've restored the article as it's notable and guaranteed to get at least a couple reviews and chart positions soon. Ss112 15:18, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Ss112, hi. You do realize that they've been blocked for paid editing? Onel5969 TT me 15:23, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Per the report at the very bottom here here, which the blocking admin Alexf acted upon, Eostrix reported SelenaGomezRevelacion for "Violation of the username policy as a misleading username. Revelación is a recent Spanish EP by Selena Gomez. User is editing pages of a different Spanish language singer." That's not an accusation of paid editing, that's a concern about the user naming themselves after a singer's album as if they represent said music release when they don't. Gomez's EP has nothing to do with Karol G's album and I don't know what anyone would really think they have in common other than....both being in Spanish, and...perhaps having a tenuous connection about both being released on Universal Music-owned labels? (Which constitutes half the music industry anyway.) If that user was trying to imply some connection because the username and the article they created are both Spanish-language releases, that's a bit of a reach. As I said, it's common for editors here to name themselves after something recent by one of their favourite singers because they think it's fine. Regardless of the template Alexf used when they blocked said editor, that doesn't equal paid editing. It wouldn't be the first time concerns raised at UAA were conflated with other reasons. Therefore I don't see why it needed to be drafted because there's really no large connection between Gomez and Karol G. Ss112 03:33, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Ss112, and as I said, you do understand that they were blocked for paid editing. Onel5969 TT me 03:39, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
No, I don't understand that, because there's no proof of paid editing, and Alexf can't prove there was, even if they used said template to tell the user they were blocked. "[T]he account has been used for advertising or promotion" does not equal "you were paid to create a page", let alone "paid to create a page on an album that isn't even what you named your account after, which is the actual reason you were reported and thus blocked". You might understand this had you clicked on the link I just provided you with, which shows how the admin came upon the user—they didn't learn anything new before blocking them. Bottom line is you should not have drafted the page, because I know full well there are plenty of articles on Wikipedia that were created by actual users paid to edit that were never drafted. Ss112 08:47, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Ss112, I did click on the link. You are simply making assumptions, I'm relying on what was actually said. Regardless, have a good day. Onel5969 TT me 12:27, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

D3 Publisher otome games

Hello! I understand there were concerns about notability for many of these games, but is there no way we can preserve the data (perhaps in a 'D3 Publisher Otome Games' article - D3 actually does have a separate division for them) for the ones that weren't kept as articles? Mermaid Prism in particular had a decent amount of content available (including not only famous voice actors and a magazine cover, but also a collaboration with a notable band) compared to some of the ones that were kept (all sourced to reliable gaming magazines), so I'm not sure I understand the pattern. I know some other editors who could not read Japanese were accusing me of citing to fan blogs, but this is not the case. Dengeki Online, Famitsu, 4gamer, and B's Log are all professional magazines. I think the information on these lesser known games may be useful, even if only as a table in the D3 main article. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 03:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Londonbeat41692, I think the best way to go is to create a List of D3 Publisher Games, and then have a section of it on the Otome Games, similar to the formatting on the D3 page. Then you could have brief blurbs about each game, and they wouldn't individually have to meet the notability criteria. Onel5969 TT me 15:38, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, I will add that project to my backlog. What would you say the Mermaid Prism article in particular was lacking, though? Another editor had removed the famous voice actors' credits from the page previously even though they were cited. I could understand removing, say, Signal. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 02:22, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Londonbeat41692, hi again. Looking over your stubs, I think there is a potentially very good list article there. Regarding "Mermaid Prism" in particular, there are 7 sources, of which I can access 6. The first 2 are simple listings, with the second also being a primary source. The third is a blog, and therefore not reliable. The fourth is another primary source. The fifth is the one I can't access, but B's-LOG appears to be little better than a blog, without editorial oversight, therefore it wouldn't be considered reliable. The sixth is a simple listing, and the seventh is a press release. While primary sources can be used, they do nothing to establish notability. So, when you build the list article, the primary sources will be fine, as the list will almost certainly pass WP:NLIST. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 14:04, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Londonbeat41692, hi again. In doing my NPP reviews this morning, I came across several more, which I redirected to the DS article section on Otome, but there was one, Signal (video game), which did pass notability criteria. In that one, there are two in-depth reviews from two different reliable sources, which is the bare minimum to pass WP:GNG (I'd like to see at least 2 more reviews, but that's me). I wanted to point this out to you, so you can see the difference. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 14:17, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello! Thank you for answering me. B's-Log is actually a professional magazine, run by Kadokawa (a major publishing house) - the same parent company as Famitsu. It is not a fan blog. https://kadokawagamelinkage.jp// Hence, I am very surprised that being its cover story for the print edition (in addition to all of the well-known actors involved along with the band collaboration) is not considered proof of notability. I never intended for primary sources to be considered proof of notability. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 05:11, 29 March 2021 (UTC) Update: I just found this section, titled "notices from the editorial department", so there in fact is one for B's Log. https://www.bs-log.com/category/info/ Londonbeat41692 (talk) 05:14, 29 March 2021 (UTC) Also, I just checked and Kurayami no Hate de Kimi wo Matsu had two reviews from professional sources along with a news link re: sales record. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 05:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello again, sorry to leave so many messages, but I am still curious what was deemed wrong with the article for the last game I mentioned when it seems to fit your criteria. Also, why is it that the articles I created are under scrutiny to the point that false assumptions are being made and acted on about the sources I am using, yet Houkago no Love Beat from the same publisher and which has had numerous contributors does not have a single source and reads like a user review of the game, but still stands? Granted, I am not suggesting it should be removed - I'm sure I could find sources to improve it with given the time, but it's not a good article right now. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 01:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Londonbeat41692, hi. First, if you want other editors to look at something, please provide links. Second, not sure what you're referring to when you say " I am still curious what was deemed wrong with the article for the last game I mentioned". Third, B's Log does not appear to be a reliable source. It's run by the person who mainly writes the reviews, or at least wrote the review in the article you created. Regarding Houkago, please see WP:OSE. Your articles are under scrutiny because they are coming up in the queue at New Page Patrolers (NPP). There's a slight backlog, and I'm just getting to articles which were created about 3 weeks ago. You just happened to create a lot of these articles within several days of one another. Onel5969 TT me 02:03, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. I was referring to Kurayami no Hate de Kimi wo Matsu. Your claims about B's Log are simply untrue. It is a subsidiary of Kadokawa and has an editorial department, as I showed you via links. The magazine feature didn't actually cite a review as I do not have the issue itself to cite its content beyond that I can verify it exists and that Mermaid Prism is the cover story/bonus items were included. Could you be confusing it with the PSMK2 review I had included, which is indeed questionable (not a blog but a review database that doesn't appear to be run by a company)? If B's Log is unreliable, then so is Famitsu. I will work the content into a list at any rate, but I do not understand your problem with this magazine. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 02:11, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Ron Polte

I saw your template on the article I recently created. I'm immensely busy, but took the time to start the article which has far more material and references than the typical long-standing stub article which I run across almost daily. So to accommodate your concerns, I started looking for material on Polte that might satisfy them. I went to JSTOR as you advised and found half a dozen references to Polte, in particular to one episode which is extremely interesting. Polte did a huge amount of work in a brief period in 1969 to put on a free Rock festival in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park, along with half a dozen other luminaries of the Rock, music and broadcast scene in the Bay Area at that time. Although an extraordinary number of commitments were gathered from top musicians, the festival was well organized, and money was raised to pay for the logistics, neighborhood complaints about speculative transitory inconveniences caused the plans to be abandoned. Instead, the proposed concert was moved to the Altamont Raceway between Santa Rita and Altamont Pass. The last-minute, haphazard arrangements, a product of Bill Graham's frustration, led to a spectacular disaster which has been memorialized in film, in particular, Gimme Shelter and one which could have been easily avoided but for the City government's insular, tone-deaf responsiveness to the "Get Off My Lawn!" types in the Sunset District. Important musicians, writers, and critics regarding the culture of the era, such as Jon Hammond (who has no article) and Ben Fong-Torres, noted Polte's role. Now the problem is that your judgment and mine are subjective, of course, and I don't know what would satisfy yours. I've wondered about a lot of absolute crap on Wikipedia, in particular, some years ago articles for every individual who contributed the inept reading of one or two lines/voice parts in extremely obscure Japanese anime films. I suspect that the producer might have drafted his next-door neighbor to contribute the reading of those lines by offering him or her a bowl of sushi in return for making a two-minute recording.

Now Polte was an important person in an important historic and cultural time.

By way of reference, I happened to see the Ken Burns 9th episode of his Jazz series in the wee hours today. The commentary mentioned Joe Glaser on occasions, as he was Louis Armstrong's and Billie Holiday's manager. So I went to the article about Joe, for some comparison. He was a major influence on music, both live and recorded, for decades, but the article doesn't remotely give him due credit for what he did. I also looked up another famous manager, Al Grossman, and didn't find an article. I tried Albert Grossman and found an extensive article, but there's no redirection to it in Wikipedia, so the reader might assume there's no article, though Al was mostly known by the hypocorism by those in the music business. My curiosity piqued, I looked up "Izzy" on Wikipedia, as journalist I.F. Stone, was known. No luck there. The prestigious "Izzy Awards" are named for him, bestowed annually by the Park Center for Independent Media at Ithaca College. Searching for "Izzy" on Wikipedia didn't include the given name "Isidor." I'll fix that.

As a result of the unexpected time I took to respond to your tagging before I'd written this note, I've managed to miss an appointment this afternoon, though it will probably work out okay. (Here's hoping.)

Here's a potential solution to what I feel is a problem. If you think a newish article is not of a "notable" subject, how about just writing to the article's creator instead of tagging it? That way the creator can be more responsive, and not realize his or her article has been deleted until some time after the fact. Even a watchlist might not be helpful, because I can't be the only Wikipedia editor who doesn't look at their watch list every day and I have hundreds of articles watchlisted so such notification is easily missed.

"IMHO" it says here.

Would that work for you? Activist (talk) 00:26, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Activist, hi. I get the feeling this person is notable, but I'm not seeing it currently in the sourcing. I'll let another NPP reviewer take a swing at it though. Onel5969 TT me 03:02, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
I just added considerably the article when I should have been taking care of a health problem and getting to some work I needed to do. It wasn't a smart thing for me to do, and I'll pay the price. However, I can't imagine that you'll have a problem with it now. Activist (talk) 14:55, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Activist, sorry to hear about your health issues. This has been a rough year for many of us. Hope you are doing better. Onel5969 TT me 15:00, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughts. I actually knew, without being terribly familiar with the particulars, what happened in 1969. It was very educational for me to track down those ancient references and articles, despite paywalls abounding. Take a look at the article now, if you have the time. One thing I need to touch up about Polte is that he was always concerned about the music, the musicians, the community, and only last about the money. He resigned from the Music Council after the Fest was shut down. It had been my intent to get to that, without being rushed, but I'm glad I did do it, despite the inconvenience and drawbacks. The guy needs some affirmation for his decency, even five years after his death. Feel free to erase all this. Activist (talk) 04:05, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Anti-feminist bias

Hi @Onel5969 I am having huge doubts over your move of Ewa Majewska EN page. There is enough of visibility in European cultural field and academia. It feels like it is anti-feminist bias on your isde as she is both prominent as an author (publishing with Verso!), cultural and political activist...

I just saw you recently decided to leave the Thai architectureal page that has a single touristic page link as a reference, so obviously your criteria depends much more on the content than actual care for references.

I would prefer that you do not move the page unless you have very specific arguments about what is exactly the problem and please use discussion pages for that, so it does not look like conservative supression on feminists in Wikipedia - this is the Gender Gap period after all ;-)

Best wishes and have a lovely Sunday ! -- Zblace (talk) 15:45, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Zblace, sorry, but you need to back off your pulpit. And you also need to learn more about notability requirements, as well as not making unfounded accusations. The site article is clearly notable, but simply needs more sources. The article you mention was declined at AfC, and then moved into the mainspace without any further necessary corrections made. Instead of wasting other editors' time, make the corrections. And if you wish to make stupid and idiotic accusations, stay off my talk page. Onel5969 TT me 15:51, 28 March 2021 (UTC)


Church of the Pilgrim Virgin moved to draftspace

Hello, thank you for your message. I made a translation of the article that's why I didn't include references as they were not in the original articles (French, Spanish). I have already added to the article multiple references from Spanish newspapers, as well as bibliography of 4 books and the pages where the information can be found. Best regards! --MJSB73MP (talk) 18:41, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

MJSB73MP, nice job! Thanks for fixing the issues. Back in mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 19:07, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Christine Nelson

Hi, I understand that Christine Nelson was blanked for a couple of reasons. I feel it would make more sense if you just added a "sources needed" template to the "Reception" section instead of just blanking the whole thing...I was actually going to add more and change up the Reception section before it was removed. I mean, Joey Jeremiah and Caitlin Ryan somehow get away with very little sources, despite basically being the same "biography of character, actor won/was nominated for awards" format. I made an effort to back up the notability of Christine Nelson. ToQ100gou (talk) 23:55, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Melvin Prohl

Melvin Prohl's notability is based on his recognized accomplishments and contributions over 43 years of professional activity. First recognized as one of the original MIT students to work in the cooperative program with General Electric Company, he had a sustained publication record from 1945 to 1977 which is more usually a trait of a career in academia than industry.

His notability was also recognized in 1999 when he was awarded the N. O. Myklestad Award by ASME, The American Society of Mechanical Engineers. Founded in the United States in 1880, ASME is now an international organization with more than 110,000 members in 150 countries world wide. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Society_of_Mechanical_Engineers. Established in 1991, N. O. Myklestad Award is given approximately every two years in recognition of a major innovative contribution to vibration engineering. (https://www.asme.org/about-asme/honors-awards/unit-awards/no-myklestad-award). Only thirteen other professionals have received this award. Kllwiki (talk) 18:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Scientists for Labour

Hello I would like to ask why you thought that the sources for the Scientists for Labour page were untrustworthy. The sources for the foundation are reputable newspapers, and the links to the work the society has done are to those specific works. In addition, this is a socialist society of the Labour whose size is greater than that of many other socialist societies that have independent wikipedia pages (eg Socialist Environment and Resources Association), so I am unsure why those societies should have their own pages but SfL should just be a re-direct to the page on socialist societies. - Daniel.villar7 15:33 BST

Hi Daniel.villar7 - There is not a single in-depth source about the organization in the article. There is three independent sources, but two are from YouTube, which is unreliable. The third is not about the organization, but it's founder. All the rest are primary sources. The obit is the only source from a newspaper, so not sure what you're talking about. Onel5969 TT me 14:47, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
The two sources from youtube are of the individuals (Keir Starmer and Gardon Brown) thanking Scientists for Labour, and the videos show them thanking the organisation for its work. The main source of information about the organisation is admittedly the organisation's own webiste, but that is the same for many other socialist societies that have wikipedia pages. For instance, the only sources for the Labour Party Irish Society come from the organisation's own website or LabourList, all save one source for the Socialist Educational Association comes from its own website, and the only link to anything on National Union of Labour and Socialist Clubs is the organisation's webiste. This is not an argument for deleting those pages, but to say that it seems that SfL is being held to a higher standard than other socialist societies. If you would like I can link to times when the organisation's work has been referenced in newspapers and other Labour Party organs, but I do not see why that would make it more reliable than stating what it has done and linking to the organisation's own webiste. Additionally for some of the information, such as the name of the chair and of the patrons, I think it would be apropriate to link to the organisation's own page. - Daniel.villar7 16:00 BST

Quantum Psychology

Hi! I do not know if I left this on your page previously and I am missing it or what happened exactly, but I was wondering why exactly the Quantum Psychology page edit that I did was reversed by you? Is there something wrong with the content itself or what was the reason other than it had previously been deleted? BlacklilyofKoN (talk) 02:18, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

BlacklilyofKoN, hi. It had been deleted as the result of a deletion discussion, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quantum psychology. Your draft, while listing sources, had no footnotes, and the sourcing provided did not have enough information included to pass WP:VERIFY. Onel5969 TT me 02:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

"Glizzy" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Glizzy. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 31#Glizzy until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

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