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Catalan Republic

Hi. I noticed you adding the "copied" template to article talk pages. I've just changed Catalan Republic to a disambiguation page, and copied the content to four new articles, with a small residue copied to the talk page. I put links in all my edit summaries, so that bit is covered, but I can't get the hang of the "copied" template so I haven't added it to any talk page. Any chance you might do it for me? Scolaire (talk) 18:01, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Scolaire. :) There are "nice to have" parameters in that template, but the basic is really pretty easy:
{{copied|from=title of the article where it started|to=title of the article to which you copied it}}
That's all that's really necessary. The other stuff identifies the specific edit where it was added and the specific version it was taken from, but the important part is the page history. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:08, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
Okay. I'll do that. It was the diffs that did my head in; once I know it's okay to leave them out I'm fine. Thanks. Scolaire (talk) 07:27, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
Glad to hear it. I have sometimes struggled with the "from_oldid=" parameter myself. :) I'm forget what it's called. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:48, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Actually, once I'd done the basic version, I found I was able to come back and add the oldids and the diffs. I later even managed to change "copied" to "split article" on the original article. Taking it in stages makes all the difference, so thanks again for setting me on my way. Scolaire (talk) 08:08, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Category:Articles tagged for copyright problems, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Adam9007 (talk) 17:09, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:SCV

Template:SCV has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:46, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

FreshCorp619 is back

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I'm bringing this to your attention because you have blocked User:History of Persia and dealt with that situation. There is an issue now associated with User:Mehrdad 12. A friend of mine stumbled upon this historically innaccurate map (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:131Etendue_de_l%27Empire_Fran%C3%A7ais1.png) added to a the French colonial empire page. It was created by the afforementioned user. User:Mehrdad 12 has accounts on the Persian Wikipedia as well as Wiki Commons. He freqently falsifies image edits and contributions without sources and adds his self created images to articles. Most of his edits have been reverted by me, or others such as User: LouisAragon. I feel his image edits in particular are damaging to the integrity and mission of Wikipedia and Media Wiki.

I have a good reason to suspect that this is User: Artin Mehraban who formerly had a sockpuppet account as User:History of Persia. The MO is very similar. Bad English, no reason for edits, false information, and focus on revising Persian History and image editing without sources. I also should point out that the name is very similar (Mehrdad v Mehraban.) I am bringing this to your attention because i believe action needs to be taken to block the account based on the history of edits. -- User:R9tgokunks (gespraec) 04:54, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello, User:R9tgokunks. If he's falsifying images that are posted on Commons, this may need review by Commons administrators. I cannot help with that, I'm afraid. In terms of the images he's adding here, I don't know enough about the history to be able to easily puzzle out whether this is a hoax or not and would kind of need a "smoking gun" to act on him here. So far all edits seem to be to add that image, which isn't enough for me to feel confident connecting him to the prior user, although if the image is a recreation of one History of Persia made, that obviously would make all the difference. I really appreciate your keeping an eye on the situation, but with the information at hand and with this level of activity I don't think there's much I, myself, can do to help. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:30, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Conditions

I don't want to cause any mess but I used this account (my older account was locked out here) on all other wikis such as Wikimedia Commons and Wikisource. To be fair, I wanted to upload images on the Commons page rather than this Wiki. Wrestlingring (talk) 03:41, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 November 2017

Since you deleted this page per WP:G5, could you tell me which blocked editor created the page? Thanks. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:49, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Sir Sputnik. Yes, this was User:History of Persia. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:55, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For your NPOV approach to discussions at BLP/N - defending and protecting the integrity of our encyclopedia with a common sense approach to promote neutrality! It is as it should be!! Atsme📞📧 22:02, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! That's very kind of you. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 23:47, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Welcome back!

I didn't realize you had returned until your username popped up on my watchlist just now. Welcome back, you were missed! Softlavender (talk) 04:09, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. :) I really missed it, too. I'm trying to get back in as much as I can. Once we get a chief hired and onboarded, I'm hoping to have more time and energy again! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:02, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Love Jihad

I haven't kept up with it but I'm not convinced the current version is good. I did some work a while ago but have given up. Doug Weller talk 13:57, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Boy, that article is a mess. It rambles all over the place! You're right. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:28, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Palestinian Hikaye

Hi. On 28 August 2016 you removed the text on Palestinian Hikaye from the "Palestinians" article because of copyright issues, and noted that the explanation is to be found on the talk page. I don't know where the discussion has been archived away, and right now there's a paragraph with no content there. Maybe you know a way out? I had no idea what the Hikaye, let alone the Palestinian Hikaye is, and while me, as an editor, had access to the data in the history versions, most users don't. Thanks! PS: I don't know anything about your work on WP, and I've strongly diminished my edits out of time concerns, so I understand those, but when I do have time, I try never to remove a bit of good info for whatever reason. Again, IF I find the time, I look for better sources and put it back in in a more acceptable manner and shape. Do you think you could do that? Thanks again. Arminden (talk) 18:50, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Arminden, it is WP:C policy that "Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted" - you see that note every time you press edit. While I, like other editors, will sometimes attempt to replace material that violates copyright, it is not always possible due to time or other constraints, and meeting that policy takes priority. The way to find content that has fallen off of a talk page is to check its archives. This particular article has quite a few of those due to its active editing history, but it also has a search bar. If you use it to search for my username, it may help you find the content you seek. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:43, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

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Wishes

It's that time of the year again, Maggie. No fancy template, but just wishing you all the best for the holidays and the new year, and thanking you for all you do. It's probably a lot warmer where I am than where you are 😎 Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:04, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง! I suspect you are right about the weather. :D May you have a lovely holiday as well. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:26, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Auguri


Merry Christmas from London, Maggie ...

and a New Year filled with peace and happiness!

Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 07:28, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Voceditenore. :) Peace and happiness sound pretty fabulous. I wish the same for you and yours. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:27, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays
From Stave one of Dickens A Christmas Carol

Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail. Mind! I don’t mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country’s done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.

So you see even Charles was looking for a reliable source :-) Thank you for your contributions to the 'pedia. ~ MarnetteD|Talk 23:28, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


Happy New Year!

Happy New Year!
A happy, healthy and peaceful 2018 to you! We hope (talk) 00:31, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

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Geraldine

Ping,Wikipedia:Help_desk#Geraldine,_New_Zealand. Copyright troubles... so I thought of you. 86.20.193.222 (talk) 18:08, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

I am attempting to reason with a strong-willed editor, User:OJOM, who seems to believe that all French military pages he's involved with should be exact copies of the French wikipedia's pages, many of which he's seemingly created. I have quoted WP:PILLARS, including 5P2, to him, repeatedly, and he simply repeats that French wikipedia is authoritative. He's ignored my injunctions about reliable sources, avoidance of total reliance on French official sources, etc, and seems to continue simply arguing from his authority (old example from 2015 where concerns were raised are at [1] and [2], but his behaviour in the last few days seems almost the same). There is substantial evidence of disruptive editing, including deleted notices on talk pages, a deleted advisory from FlightTime in the last 24 hours, and, where I would seek your advice, stubborn unwillingness to consider that he's infringing copyright in one identified case.

The issue is that the original source is in French. The sections "History" and "Operational beginnings" of 03.003 Fighter Squadron "Ardennes" are almost certainly copyright violations - very close paraphrasing, including a mistake about the identity of "No. 338 Wing USAAF" - from the http://groupeaeronefs.free.fr/even26.htm and thus the wing's semi-official history, translated into English. OJOM inserted that material partially by [3]. I've read your copyright clarifications, and I believe by your interpretation of U.S. copyright law, "substantial similarity" exists. But the situation is not totally clear-cut, because he's copied from a French source and translated it into English.

I believe that a copyright infringement exists, and if the language issue was not present, I would have deleted the article on sight. Do you have any advice or guidance you'd like to contribute before I take administrator action? (To be clear, I can handle the disruptive editing; his defiance of WP:PILLARS is stark. I would simply like guidance on the copyright issue.) Buckshot06 (talk) 19:37, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Buckshot06. That sounds like some difficult conversations. :/ Speaking to the point of copyright, the right to translate copyrighted material belongs exclusively to the copyright holder. (I know you know this; I'm just being explicit.) Translation might seem to be fully transformative - "這是最好的時候,也是最壞的時候" looks nothing like "It was the best of times; it was the worst of times" because every word has been changed, but under US law the act of translating the English into Chinese would be forbidden if not authorized by the copyright holder or otherwise governed by Fair Use. (In this case, of course, the original is out of copyright.) In a nutshell, the act of translation is *not* transformative under US Copyright law.
Accordingly, summarizing a translation is, under US Copyright law, no more protected than summarizing the original.
However, generally these kinds of copyright problems are caused by lack of familiarity or lack of ability more than a deliberate attempt to plagiarize or appropriate protected content. So what I usually do in such cases is use the page-blanking {{subst:copyvio}} and explain explicitly some of the issues on the talk page to help the editors see where the issues lie. I like the language that exists (or at least used to! haven't read it in a long time :)) in Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing because it was engineered to very explicitly explain the problem. In this case, I'd probably include the information about language protection.
I emphasize generally because at least two cases come to mind of folks I've worked with in the past who were not unfamiliar with the concepts or incapable of doing the work (as they demonstrated when caught, repeatedly), but apparently deliberately chose to push the line. Instruction is wasted on those folks. They know, but they don't care. However, I have always tried to start with the assumption of good faith that if you tell them how to do it right, they will want to do it right.
I'll note that this approach is only helpful sometimes. Some contributors pay attention, try to take the information onboard in good faith and work to revise material. Sometimes they don't seem to be able to develop the skills of doing that. Some contributors are hostile and not interested in different approaches. Those usually end badly, with blocks and WP:CCIs. :/
When people push back on blanking the article, I note that policy requires that we be conservative in this regard. WP:C doesn't waffle in saying we should never use copyright-infringing content and that when doubt exists we default to replacement.
Hope that helps! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:14, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
We'll see what happens with this editor. I will delete the page, and following your guidance, put a substantial note on the talk page. I may ask your advice again. Many thanks and Happy New Year!! Buckshot06 (talk) 00:37, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 20 February 2018

Precious six years!

Precious
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:57, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Natives Éditions

Hi Moonriddengirl! I would like to ask you for some advice. Recently, I have contributed for the page Natives (Éditions), but it was deleted a few days ago. Maybe, Natives Éditions is not a huge company, but it is a very serious publisher and a really original music label. Do you think it is possible to do something in order to restore this page? I don't have now any access to its content on Wikipedia, the only link I could find is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Natives_(Éditions)

Thank you in advance for your advice! 1996Paris (talk) 15:08, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Wp:AN

Greetings, there is currently an issue on WP:AN about copyright issues involving edits by a very prolific editor that might need your input, as it is too large for a plain WP:CCI. JoJo Eumerus mobile (talk) 22:22, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Margit Sebők for deletion

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Help!!!

Hi there! My name is Louis. I noticed you edited a lot of information on Daniel Kanu. It so happens, I've worked for him in the recent past and my Employer; Jay Menes, is fast friends with him. I am new to Wikipedia but i really need help with what i am working on. This client of mine wants me to create a wikipedia article about him. I have written the article twice and uploaded but it has been speedily deleted. I am guessing i am contravening Wikipedia's laws. I honestly have no idea what to do next. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LouisEhimikhuai (talkcontribs) 13:19, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello, LouisEhimikhuai, and welcome to Wikipedia.
It looks like Moonriddengirl hasn't been on wiki recently, so let me play "talk page stalker" here, and suggest that you ask for help at the Wikipedia:Teahouse instead. That's a good page for new editors who need help with anything, including help creating articles.
But... but perhaps you'd like to go back to your client, and ask him to think about whether this is such a good idea. Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing, and a lot of people end up regretting the existence of an article on Wikipedia. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:44, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Signpost issue 4 – 29 March 2018

@Moonriddengirl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Max_Holloway_UFC.png#Contested_deletion Copyright Assistance Require 🥇BUSriderSFUser (talkcontribs) 06:19, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

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WikiProject Western Governors University

WikiProject Georgia Tech

As a current or past contributor to a related article, I thought I'd let you know that I've started WikiProject Western Governors University, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of WGU. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks and related articles. Thanks! Paul Smith111977 (talk) 11:45, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

This message has been sent to you to inform you that a case involving FreshCorp619 has been filed at SPI, and it has come to my knowledge that you may have prior history with this user. As such, your input may assist with the case. That case can be found at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/FreshCorp619. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 16:29, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

UNESCO definitions of endangered languages

Could you please take a look at Talk:UNESCO definitions of endangered languages#What is going on—and the discussion leading up to my question there—and reply there about whatever happened with the OTRS ticket mentioned in that discussion? (Or let me know that you cannot do that, and I'll ask elsewhere.) - dcljr (talk) 01:44, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, dcljr. I've responded, but there's no news. They never replied. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:53, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
So… what now? Does the ticket stay open indefinitely? Does anyone do anything with old, unresolved tickets? I assume there's just as much of a problem (as discussed at the linked talk page) today as there was 3 years ago. Are you going to try again? - dcljr (talk) 18:05, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) (hi, MRG, good to see you!)Dcljr, I may be completely wrong here, but I've an idea there's an editor who is an ambassador or Wikipedian-in-residence or something to the UN or some part of the UN. If you were able to track that person down (and I don't know how you'd do that) it might conceivably be possible to persuade him or her to try to pursue this question. Sorry to be so vague ... Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:32, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Justlettersandnumbers. :) dcljr, where is the content being used? The page itself has turned into a redirect, and I don't see the content on the page it's being redirected to? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:27, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
As discussed on that talk page (see in particular ArchReader's comments of 05:18, 30 April 2015 and 00:59, 20 May 2015), UNESCO seemed to be trying to give us permission to use not only their definitions (now paraphrased at Endangered language#UNESCO definitions) but also their entire "Limited" dataset reproduced in our various "List of" articles linked to from Lists of endangered languages. BTW, beyond what I've said here, I don't really know anything more about this than can be gleaned from a careful reading of that talk page discussion. I was never acutally involved in getting permission from UNESCO. I have just pinged ArchReader, who was involved. (I can try to answer any other questions people have for me, but my answers will surely become less and less useful.) - dcljr (talk) 23:30, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Oh, I just realized ArchReader is now Lingzhi. - dcljr (talk) 23:32, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry if the intent of my question was unclear. :) You refer above, dcljr, to "just as much of a problem", and I'm trying to understand what that problem is. If the problem is that copyrighted content remains, that does need to be addressed. If the content is not being reproduced and the problem is that we have not received usable permission, that's unfortunate, but not uncommon. We quite frequently must remove material where the permission offered is for some reason unusable. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:54, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Yep, that is indeed the crux, MRG; it seems to have been removed, but not revdeleted, at UNESCO definitions of endangered languages. It is present at Languages of the Philippines, and quoted at List of endangered languages in Russia, List of endangered languages in Europe and List of endangered languages in Asia (that I've seen).
Anyway, in case it helps, I have remembered who the UNESCO Wikipedian-in-residence is: John Cummings. I hope he won't mind being pinged and asked if this is something he could perhaps help to resolve? Regards to all, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:36, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping @Justlettersandnumbers:, could someone summarise the issue? I see that you're attempting to get an OTRS ticket for some content within the Atlas but I don't understand which content. For reference the AWLD is available under CC BY-SA 3.0 here with instructions on how to add open license text available at Wikipedia:Adding open license text to Wikipedia. The credit for reusing text from AWLD would look like this (just add the page numbers, the template works in VE

 This article incorporates text from a free content work. Licensed under CC BY-SA IGO 3.0 (license statement/permission). Text taken from Atlas of the world's languages in danger​, UNESCO.

John Cummings (talk) 18:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

@John Cummings: and Moonriddengirl: Our use of the exact text of UNESCO's definitions for endangered languages was indeed the original concern, but in the ensuing discussion (starting with ArchReader's comment of "05:18, 30 April 2015"), it looks to me like we were asking for permission for pretty much the entire contents (the tables) of all the "List of" pages linked to from Lists of endangered languages (i.e., List of endangered languages in Africa, List of endangered languages in Asia, List of endangered languages in Bangladesh, etc.). UNESCO seemed to be giving that permission, but there were concerns (raised by you, Moonriddengirl, in your comment of "11:12, 20 May 2015") that the licencing terms they cited on their website were not sufficient for our purposes. An OTRS ticket was created about the matter (which I cannot look at), and then nothing happened. Again, please just read through the discussion at Talk:UNESCO definitions of endangered languages (especially from ArchReader's 05:18, 30 April 2015 comment onwards) for all the details. I know it's long, but it's literally all I know about the matter (besides what I have already said here). - dcljr (talk) 21:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

@Dcljr:, I've left the message on the talk page of the article confirming the CC license of the atlas. Best, John Cummings (talk) 21:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Copyvio?

You know, after all these years, I still don't know else where to report this :) [4] seems to be a copy paste of [5]? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:31, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

I guess you are a bit busy? And I was going to ask for help with a copyvio discussion at Talk:Anti-Jewish_violence_in_Poland,_1944–1946#COPYRIGHT_VIOLATION_BEING_IGNORED_BY_RESTORATION_OF_TEXT_WITH_EGREGIOUS_COPYRIGHT_VIOLATION... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:23, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 May 2018

The Signpost: 24 May 2018

The Duchess of Sussex

Hi MRG,

I was browsing the pages and found that the page for The Duchess of Sussex is locked to prevent vandalism (sad that it's even necessary) but I wanted to bring to your attention that the page is titled incorrectly. She is not Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. She is The Duchess of Sussex. The former is for women who no longer hold the position (e.g. Sarah, Duchess of York or Diana, Princess of Wales).

The same format should be used for The Duchess of Cornwall, The Duchess of Cambridge and The Countess of Wessex. CharlotteFaith7 (talk) 20:39, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 June 2018

Just saying Hi.

Hi MRG,

I been away so long and, you were too so this year I Completely forgot your wikibirthday, it would be silly from me to leave a cake so late, but at least let it be know that remembering you always put a smile in my face.

Oh what the hell have these.

Cookies!

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I don't even remember my password so I can log in and leave a proper signature, but you know who I am my dear mentor who dress in rags and opals.

Oh, wait, here it is. Zidane tribal (talk) 17:16, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

You remain always kind and gracious, Zidane tribal. :) I have wonderful memories of collaborating with you. It is always nice to hear from you and know you are well. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:46, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

A blast from the past

Hello M. Three years ago we had copyvio problems at The Great Movies (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) that you took care of. Today an IP restored the problematic content. I wanted to let you know about it ASAP. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 17:24, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Oops I only just noticed that you haven't edited since May. I'll alert someone else about this. I hope that you are well. MarnetteD|Talk 17:35, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi, MarnetteD. Thanks for noticing and taking care of that! I'm still struggling to make time. I think I'm back in and then I get busy and I have to travel and boom. I've fallen out of the habit. :) We're getting closer to finding somebody to fill the interim role I've been doing at work, and I'm convinced that will open whole new vistas of time in my life! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:45, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the update M. What is this thing with real life interfering with wikidrama :-) HeeHee. Best wishes to ya. MarnetteD|Talk 16:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

FreshCorp619

Thanks for a thorough job with socks of the editor I know as Wrestlingring and Supreme Dragon. I managed to find one more of the IPv6 variety: 2607:FEA8:A75F:F823:489B:E70A:3793:B463. Same location; adding unnecessary details in birth places, one of their trade marks. --T*U (talk) 19:15, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, T*U . :) I saw that you had found that and blocked that one for a couple of weeks. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:44, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Happy day

I hope that today's a happy day for you! WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:16, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Moonriddengirl, when you get a good chance to do so, will you comment at Talk:Trypophobia regarding the copyright violation and plagiarism debate? Editors are concerned about plagiarism issues there, but another editor there insists that copying from the source is fine because the source is free. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:25, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

And I apologize in advance if the lotus image in the article bothers you. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:26, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Flyer22 Reborn. While my time is pretty tight right now, I've commented there. The chief issue is that the license is not compatible. If the license were compatible and the text were properly attributed, there wouldn't be a copyright issue. Plagiarism concerns of free text can usually be easily repaired with a proper acknowledgement of direct taking, unless WP:Plagiarism has massively changed since I last looked. :) But the key issue here is that the license is CC-By-SA 4.0. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:38, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Okay, Flyer22 Reborn, I shouldn't have tried to do this in the few minutes I had. I am now both late and had to take time to correct my misunderstanding. This is compatibly licensed material - CC-By 4.0 not CC-By-SA 4.0. If license and source are acknowledged, there is no copyright violation. The plagiarism guideline is pretty clear on how to handle plagiarism. If local editors want to handle things differently, that's fine, but doing it in accordance with guideline means that there's no plagiarism here as Wikipedia by consensus defines such things. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:13, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks again. As you can see, I replied on the talk page. Because there is no legal issue, the editor is further emboldened to keep writing like this. Seems like extensively copying text like this when there is no legal issue is something Wikipedia should discuss somewhere. As you can see on the article's talk page, editors feel that it's bad writing and unethical. Tackling something like this at WP:Manual of Style or WP:Village pump (policy) is more so SMcCandlish's ball court than mine, though. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:36, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Flyer22 Reborn. Wikipedia did discuss it, when Wikipedia:Plagiarism was adopted as a guideline (can't remember when that was - 2009? 2010?). There are a ton of articles that include text copy-pasted in this way. However, WP:CCC, so if people decide that developing articles like this is not best process for the encyclopedia now, revision of practice is certainly doable. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:08, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
I see this as a much bigger deal than the copyright question; it's a matter of encyclopedic responsibility. It's improper for us to snarf up off-site text and regurgitate it in Wikipedia's own voice. That's a severe WP:NPOV and often WP:NOR problem. This may need an RfC at WP:VPPOL.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  06:52, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Email

Just to say I've sent an email to your personal account. AnOpenMedium (talk) 10:46, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks for your reply! I hope to get to email later. AnOpenMedium (talk) 12:08, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Just to let you know that I've just sent another email to your account AnOpenMedium (talk) 15:16, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Ian Markham

Hi, Moonriddengirl. A few months ago, I reported the article Ian Markham for substantial copyright infringement (see here). I didn't expect the article to deleted as a result as that hasn't happened on other occasions when I have made similar reports. Is there any way that it could be restored and stubified? Thanks, 142.160.89.97 (talk) 03:12, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi, 142.160.89.97. I appreciate your keeping an eye out for issues and sorry if the process surprised you. The article was blanked via your report for 4.5 months to encourage somebody to address the copyright violation by obtaining permission or writing new content, and nobody did either. I do try to rewrite some of them myself, especially where systemic bias seems likely to deprive of us of content, but the copyright list is backlogged, and it is not the role of administrators addressing copyright problems to do this - the system is designed so that those with knowledge of and interest in the subject can. When nobody does that, deletion is sometimes the outcome. If you have interest in writing a stub, let me know, and I'd be happy to give you the content that we can retain, including the list of books and the infobox. I don't suppose you have a registered account? It's not impossible without, but would make it a little easier since I could supply that for you in a "sandbox" in your own space until you're ready to publish. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:15, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, that would be great if you could arrange that. Thanks, 142.160.89.97 (talk) 19:28, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi, 142.160.89.97. I have restored it with enough text to at least explain how he is. I've also flagged the sourcing difficulties with the article, as all sources are primary. I hope you can build it into something a little more encyclopedic. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:29, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much! 142.160.89.97 (talk) 19:02, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

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Bit embarrassed to say, you have another email from me (to your personal address)! AnOpenMedium (talk) 13:53, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. Sent you personal email as well! AnOpenMedium (talk) 13:04, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

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Hi. I recently saw this edit from the past. Nice to see that you are still active. usernamekiran(talk) 09:47, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Usernamekiran. :) Good to see you are as well! I don't have as much time right now as I used to, but I am managing to get more in these days than I did for a while. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:56, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

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Need your help

Since you are familiar with the copyvio issues involving this editor, I thought it best to discuss the following with you first:

I am not quite convinced the book meets WP:GNG or if I should tag the article and/or nominate it for AfD. The article's Bibliography is confusing, and appears more like a list of books, journals and articles that mention Bell's study, or possibly cite his book. When I checked Google scholar citations for the book, the numbers were not impressive. Bell's Kinsey study is mentioned in his obituaries as "ground breaking" and some mention book titles but that doesn't qualify as multiple articles in RS per GNG or N. There is a NYTimes article about the Kinsey study with mention that books will be written about it but quite frankly, the WP article gives the book more coverage than what I've found elsewhere, not to mention the copyvio issues or the 64 kB (9785 words) of "readable prose size". The only actual actual review of the book itself in the article that I could find is this .pdf in the External links section. Atsme📞📧 17:03, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Atsme, it would be nice if in future you could bring any concerns you have about an article I have started to me directly instead of relaying them to a third party. According to WP:GNG, "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." That criterion is easily met here. Sexual Preference is one of the most influential books on human sexuality published in the twentieth century. There are numerous discussions of it that are entirely independent on its authors and that discuss it in considerable detail. If you are in any doubt about that then by all means look up the sources cited in the article and actually read them. You apparently found the review of the book by Clarence Tripp. You might want to look at others. I suggest, in particular, that you read the reviews by Paul Robinson, John Gagnon, Michael Ignatieff, George Smith, Ira Reiss, John DeLamater, James D. Weinrich, J. Kenneth Davidson, Sr., Cheryl L. Gillespie, and Jeanne Marecek. There are also significant discussions of the book in the scholarly literature by Gerard J. M. van den Aardweg, Paul H. Van Wyk and Chrisann S. Geist, and Frederick Suppe (of course there are other discussions as well, but those are among the most significant ones). The book is clearly notable on the basis of those reviews alone, but if you like, you can also read the many subsequent discussions of the book by authors such as Seymour Fisher, and Kenneth Zucker and Susan Bradley (again, there are others, but those are particularly detailed and lengthy ones).
Above you wrote, "The article's Bibliography is confusing, and appears more like a list of books, journals and articles that mention Bell's study, or possibly cite his book." I am not sure what you believe it accomplishes by calling the bibliography "confusing" without giving any reason. Thank you for saying "possibly", however, as it indicates that you have not read those books, journals and articles and therefore don't really know. If you had read them and were actually familiar with them, then you would know that while some of those sources do indeed mention the book only comparatively briefly, there are also many lengthy and detailed discussions of the book. Your suggestion that the article should be nominated for deletion is bizarre and ill-informed. Given how many reviews Sexual Preference received, in both academic publications and the popular press, and the many subsequent discussions of it in books, it is overwhelmingly obvious that the book is notable, in fact that should have been clear just on the basis of reading the article itself. If, of all the many reviews the book received, the only review you managed to find was the one by Tripp, then that seems...strange. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 03:36, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Atsme and FreeKnowledgeCreator. I'm not very active at the moment, so I'm afraid I'm not the best person to assist with any disagreements about this article. :/ Questions about notability are probably best raised at the article's talk page or in deletion debate. Concerns about copyright may be addressed through WP:CPN. That said, I always suggest a review of these reports to see if duplicated text is in quotations of reasonable length, phrases that are natural and likely to be duplicated in any piece of writing, and non-copyrightable elements like book or article titles. I have not had time to do that with this report, but when confidence levels are middle-ground like you say this one is, that is sometimes a factor.
FreeKnowledgeCreator, please remain civil, especially on my talk page. It's fine to disagree without calling the opinions of others "bizarre and ill-informed." If you think somebody is ill-informed, you can inform them and persuade them better without shaming language. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:48, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, MRG - I believe the issues are being handled. I did not engage the editor because I was hoping to satisfy my own doubts first. I don't think it is helpful to concern an editor about an issue before I'm certain an issue exists, and that's why I came here first. Don't work too hard. Atsme✍🏻📧 14:59, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
MRG, Atsme, I had hoped to look at this fairly fully today, but other things got in the way; of the pages listed by Atsme as potentially problematic, I've so far identified two where copyvio was added by IP editors in about 2013 (only one of those two listed at WP:CP so far – the other may be more directly fixable). But I've exhausted my Wikipedia time for today, so the others will have to wait at least until tomorrow. Sorry! (I'm going to copy this to User talk:Amorymeltzer too). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:42, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

More email from me

Written to you personally AnOpenMedium (talk) 15:07, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks, advice really appreciated! AnOpenMedium (talk) 14:26, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

RfA requests

Hi, just wondering if you would consider doing any more RfA nominations? I have two candidates in mind (Justlettersandnumbers was a third) who I think could do good work with copyvio patrol (you might even be able to guess who I'm thinking of); I just need a good nominator to make a convincing case. I've had a good run of nominations in the past, but having had two "near misses" recently, I really want the next one to be a roaring success. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:42, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Ritchie333. :) While I'd love to help, I'm afraid that RFA noms are rare as hen's teeth for me for a reason.:/ Preparing myself for them is massively time consuming, since I too have had issues in the past and won't do them unless I've spent tons of time reassuring myself that I am very, very sure of my own decision on the issue. If not for my close personal work with JLAN in the past and my offer from some time ago to nominate, I probably wouldn't be involved in this one...but I couldn't resist the opportunity. I might reconsider in a couple of months, and I'm looking forward to hiring and easing my own schedule, but I think right now I just don't have the time to do it justice. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:57, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Well, that may not necessarily be an issue, because the potential admins in question, Wiae and Crow, tend to edit in small bursts with gaps in activity, which is one reason I've held of nominating until now, as people like to a candidate who's made lots of edits recently (although I'm not sure why). I think the other reason is Amory has been talking to Crow in particular about giving RfA a go for absolutely ages, but we've not really managed to be particularly convincing. I was just wondering if you could somehow use your powers of persuasion, given several people on the RfA have said, "well if MRG says he's okay then he must be, because she's alway right" (although I realise there was a bit of tongue in cheek in that). Anyway, food for thought, and if I happen to be lining one of these up for the mop and bucket in 3-6 months' time, and you're around and are particularly interested in putting one (or both) of them forward, then we can revisit things then. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:30, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you for your work cleaning up the copyright violation problems at African-American architects. Tedious but much needed, and far superior to deleting the article. Your work is very much appreciated! Wugapodes [thɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 21:18, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Wugapodes. :) I try to salvage what I can. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:24, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

A relatively new user has posted a thread at Wikipedia:Teahouse regarding images he says he owns copyright to, but that have been uploaded against his permission. Since this is often your bailiwick, I thought I would see if you could respond to their issue. Thanks! --Jayron32 13:56, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi. :) Images on Commons are not my thing as much as text on Wikipedia, but I'd have been happy to had not so many stellar people already swarmed all over that. :) It seems it's been successfully resolved. Thanks for reaching out! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:22, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Oh, wait. Maybe not. I'll drop a note. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:23, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
And no after all - I was concerned that the individual might not understand he has to go through OTRS, but that's been handled, too: Commons:Commons talk:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Dandlyin. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:27, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into it and helping out. --Jayron32 15:09, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

References in Baltic Shield#Denudation chronology

I saw you cleansed the article Baltic Shield from copyirghted material. Thank you for that. However, in the process a lot of references from the section Baltic Shield#Denudation chronology, which was not violating any copyright, got lost or disconfigured. All internal and external links in the references are not lost, and I cannot retrieve them from page history. I would like to see how we can restore them. Lappspira (talk) 19:09, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello,Lappspira. I'm sorry about that; I'm afraid that is what happens when we restore the last presumed clean version. I've put the list of references on the talk page of the article from the version right before the roll back. I didn't include the links, because doing so is not a simple matter, but if you can't easily access any of the articles, just let me know which ones, and I'll pull those for you, too. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:50, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
I can fix things, of course, but its dissapointing and unmotivating to spend time (hours..) to do the same work again. You know whom to contact to gain access to the deleted history to rescue the references there? Lappspira (talk) 16:18, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
I always hate to see collateral damage when these issues are rectified. In this case, it's particularly difficult because this content was properly removed according to copyright policy years ago, and a user restored it just a few minutes before you started working on it. If the problematic content had not been restored, you could instead have put your work into a clean copy that we could keep. :/ In terms of rescuing references, Lappspira, can you tell me what you mean? I pulled all the references that were in the last version of the article and put them on the talk page. That is every reference that was listed in the article. Is it the links to the sources that you expect to take hours? As I mentioned, if there is a resource the link for which is not easily accessible, I can pull up the link for you, if you tell me which. I can do both of those things because I have access to the deleted history. It took me less time, however, to find the link to Stratigraphic landscape analysis, thermochronology and the episodic development of elevated, passive continental margins via Google search than it would have to pull every link out of the deleted content history. From what you say, though, I'm not sure if it's the links that concern you. If you can give me more explanation of the challenge, I may be able to help more in reducing the time you estimate this will take. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:56, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

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Use of text copied from sources licensed as CC-by-sa 3.0

Hi Moonriddengirl, What is the best way to handle articles based on text copied from another website published under CC-by-sa 3.0 · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:19, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Peter (Southwood). :) Guidance on that is laid out at WP:FREECOPYING. Basically, it involves the use of a template to acknowledge copying. There's a whole mess of these at Category:Attribution templates. If it's not specific to one of those sources, you would probably use Template:CCBYSASource. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:57, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, That helps a lot. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 17:10, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Margaret Purce

Much of the "college career" section of the Margaret Purce page appears to be copied and pasted from her Harvard bio Joeykai (talk) 06:18, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

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Hi! I said I missed you in T&S and then Fox told me you're still here. :D Would love to catch up with you. How are you? Trijnsteltalk 00:09, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Correction: you're even still on the WMF... Apologies. But I still like to hear something from you. Trijnsteltalk 00:10, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Trijnstel! So good to hear from you. :D I'm still around - not volunteering quite as much as I want, but hoping that I'll be able to soon! I'm well. How are you? :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Nice to hear you're okay. :) I'm fine as well; busy as always with work (&Wikipedia ofc). But I love it, so I won't easily quit with it. Let's stay in touch! Trijnsteltalk 13:36, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

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Asian Highway AH48

Hi
I wanted to create Asian Highway related article titled AH48 where I learned that an article by same title has been deleted. What I want to create is something on lines of AH42 and AH44. I do not know what were the contents of deleted article AH48. If there are no issues with similar articles mentioned above, I will go ahead and create the article. Please advise. Thanks

Jazze7 (talk) 11:54, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Jazze7. The problem with that article was not with the topic, but with the content, which was copy-pasted from other sources. If you create an article that does not misuse other people's content and is otherwise within policy, it should be fine. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:15, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you Moonriddengirl. Clarification is well appreciated. Best wishes. - Jazze7 (talk) 13:27, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Arab diaspora - copyrighted material restored again after redaction

Hi Moonriddengirl, thanks for your work on fixing the copyright problem in the Arab diaspora article on October 20th. Unfortunately, someone has obtained the now-redacted material, and restored it again with this edit: Special:Diff/870692029/871005673. I've just restored the article to the last version before that. Could you maybe take a look, and redact the intervening edits? Thanks... --IamNotU (talk) 21:24, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, IamNotU, for your continued diligence there. :) I have rev-deleted and also tagged the IP, which is certainly being used for block evasion by the same user. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:51, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Great, thanks for doing that! --IamNotU (talk) 21:57, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

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Hello Moonriddengirl,
Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that

Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?"

My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk 03:58, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, MarnetteD; that's a funny and heartwarming story and a very kind sentiment. :D I hope the new year brings you splendid things. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:26, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

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Revdel requests for articles I have just cleaned up

Hey there Moonriddengirl. I have just been spending the past week scrutinizing several articles for potential copyright violations. Sadly, I found these articles to be full of them. I have spent hours preparing their pruning. Most of the violations I uncovered were excessive (in-ref) quotations from copyrighted books and journals. For example starting with this edit[6] right up to this[7] the entire article was just copy paste of whole pages of books. I have done what I can to eliminate the plagiarisms and close paraphrasings on that article[8] as well as a few other articles.[9][10][11] It would be much appreciated if you could revdel all the revisions of these 4 articles prior to my clean ups. Regards, Dilpa. Dilpa kaur (talk) 07:05, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

I wonder if this editor has understood the copy-vio policy. I've already pinged Diannaa, but repeat that ping here too. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 11:45, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
This material does not qualify for revision deletion, because it's properly attributed quotations. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:17, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Sammy Jo Prudhomme

Much of the "college career" section of the Sammy Jo Prudhomme page appears to be copied and pasted from her OSU bio and her USC bio Joeykai (talk) 04:19, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I've tagged it, Joeykai, and explained to the individual with a little more detail than they've received in the past why we can't use it. Let's hope it takes! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:20, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Can I ask a quick copyright question; if text in an article is a very close paraphrase of the source cited, would that be considered a potential copyvio? I've always taken the view I should write original prose with the source as supporting information. WCMemail 16:12, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello, User:Wee Curry Monster. Yes, if content is very closely paraphrased to a copryight protected source, it would be considered a potential copyvio. This is because close paraphrases are likely to be derivative works, and only the copyright holder has the right to authorize these. See Wikipedia:Copying_text_from_other_sources#Can_I_copy_if_I_change_the_text_a_little_bit? and Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing for more information. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:55, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you I appreciate the answer. This is the source mentioned [12] page 15, the text in the Gibraltar article was The occupation of the town by Alliance forces caused the exodus of the population to the surrounding area of the Campo de Gibraltar. I have an editor restoring this, claiming that the text is not a close paraphrase of the source. Could I ask for your second opinion. WCMemail 12:18, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Moonriddengirl. If you have a moment, it would be great if you could give us some guidance in this specific case.
The sentence in Stephen Constantine's book is
and the sentence in the article (summarizing information from Stephen Constantine's book and many other sources) is:
According to your opinion and WP's guidlines, would you say this could be a case of copyvio? Thank you very much for you time! - Imalbornoz (talk) 21:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello, User:Wee Curry Monster and User:Imalbornoz. :) This is my opinion. I think as a stand-alone sentence this text is not too closely paraphrased. Many of the duplicative words are pretty standard, not striking, and the structure has been changed in many respects. That said, if I were doing this, there's one would that I would change. "Exodus" - it's not the most commonly encountered of words, and "departure" or perhaps "evacuation" (I don't know the context) would likely serve as well. I would also further distinguish by not following the core order of the sentence, which can be broken down "occupation prompted/caused the exodus", to something more like "The residents left the area after the Alliance forces took occupation of the town." That said, if this is the only sentence, it seems distinguished enough to me and as it is de minimis on top of that I would consider that the revision suffices. My only big concern would be if this were one sentence out of an entire passage that was paraphrased sentence for sentence, in which case you might duplicate the structure of a larger source.
Unless there's more content to cumulatively cause concern or there's some reason to avoid modification, might I suggest that perhaps changing "exodus" and perhaps tweaking order a bit further could settle the matter without further ado? :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 03:01, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Moonriddengirl, much appreciated. Fondest regards and Merry Christmas. WCMemail 09:16, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Moonriddengirl! - Imalbornoz (talk) 12:39, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi! There is an alternative sentence and we would very much appreciate it if you told us whether you think that it might have a problem with copyright:


Even though the word "exodus" is not very common in the general language, many sources use it to describe this specific episode, so I thought keeping the word might not violate copyright (and would avoid us a long long discussion on what would be the most precise alternative word to use). For example:
  • "The exodus from the city was an affecting and melancholy spectacle." (Frederick Sayer, The History of Gibraltar and of Its Political Relation to Events in Europe)
  • "This event produced an exodus of Spanish Gibraltarians who abandoned Gibraltar's urban core, having pledged their loyalty to the ruling Bourbons (since 1700), and therefore did not wish to pass under the control of the Hapsburgs" (Andrew Canessa, Bordering on Britishness: National Identity in Gibraltar from the Spanish Civil War to Brexit)
  • "Its ruins furnished materials from which Algeciras and Gibraltar were built and also San Roque when the inhabitants of Gibraltar settled there after their exodus in 1704." (Edward Ranulph Kenyon, ‎Gibraltar Under Moor, Spaniard, and Briton)
  • "No doubt there was as much lingering hope of again possessing the strong place they had wrested from the Moors in the minds of the Kings of Spain, when they contributed to keep up this contradiction, as it may be called; as a wish to soften the bitterness of their loss and to reward their loyalty to the Crown, when they conferred all their former privileges to their subjects, as if the city had never ceased to be under their dominion, and that the exodus of the inhabitants to other parts had only been made for reasons of convenience." (George James Gilbard, A popular history of Gibraltar)
Do you think that, only taking copyrights into account, it would be all right to keep "exodus" or would it still be necessary to find an alternative option?. Thanks! - Imalbornoz (talk) 15:37, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing of Alexander T. Brown

Your tag on this article was deleted by another editor because the source page vanished (404). I have kindly restored it, and linked to the source on the wayback machine. There's still a concern, because no one has fixed the text that I can see. Sbalfour (talk) 18:45, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

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I've just blanked Salt industry in Syracuse, New York due to text copyied from two sources by the cited user. I'm about to blank Industry in Syracuse, New York for contributions from that user copied from no fewer than 11 sites. I think I'm ill. Even when the limited text match of Duplication Detector is only a few words, manual inspection of the text often reveals as many as a few dozen words in sequence (though not necessarily contiguous) match the source. The alterations are only a few words changed, inserted or deleted. It's very clever, very deliberative, and the pattern is repeating over and over in each article I review. They're all or mostly related to Syracuse, NY. This person edits a lot, and often contributes big chunks of text at once. The damage is spreading. I'm aware of the copyvio investigation in progress (that's where I get the articles to assess in detail). I'm not a sysop; I can't do everything that might/ought need to be done here. Sbalfour (talk) 21:30, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

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Not a copyyvio

I am not sure which template to use to indicate that our text from 2007 in the lead of American Council for Polish Culture has been reprinted in this 2010 book: [13]. TIA to you or a friendly lurker who will stick the right template on that article's talk page :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:55, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@Piotrus: Put Template:Backwards copy, with the necessary information, on the talk page. Deor (talk) 15:20, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
I've done this myself. Deor (talk) 16:33, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you, Gerda Arendt. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:26, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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Moonriddengirl, what do you make of this? Surely an entire book can't be copied onto a personal website and then archived, with our article pointing to the archived version... I've already emailed the publisher and the Internet Archive. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:00, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

That sounds like a WP:LINKVIO to me, Drmies. This may be too late to be useful to you. Sorry about that! I'm hoping once more to get more active probably after annual planning season dies down at work. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:28, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! I pinged Diannaa from the user's talk page; I cannot look at it right now or peruse any other similar edits by the user. Take care, Drmies (talk) 14:18, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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While at a meetup in Hong Kong I found @だ*ぜ: (local Hong Konger) is translating Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing into Mandarin Chinese. He looked at the original English version of the page but he is not exactly sure how to judge whether content is too closely paraphrasing or not and some specific points such as (from zh:User:だ*ぜ/Sandbox/Wikipedia:類似之改述): He is not sure how to explain "substantial similarity: to readers since the concept does not exist in Chinese, nor does it exist in the jurisprudence of any of the territories in Greater China (Mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau, and the ROC/Taiwan area).

If you have some time to help him out, it will be greatly appreciated! WhisperToMe (talk) 09:40, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

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Hi Moonriddengirl. I work for "Piano Software." Currently, an article on a now defunct predecessor organization "Piano Media" uses our logo, headquarters address, and name in the infobox. I saw that you previously showed an interest in some copyright issues on the page and thought you may also have an interest in this issue. I posted on the Talk page about it here. Lisa at Piano (talk) 19:30, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

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In case you want to check, I'm working this page in my sandbox: User:Joaquín Cánovas/sandbox —Preceding undated comment added 17:20, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

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i could edit a page and ad info amtion to it but I got reverterd and tslk page o. I like wukipeda and i want to eddit. PLEASE HELP ME.Heyy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kvoien (talkcontribs) 13:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome back

Just noticed that you are back and contributing. We were really missing you. I hope everything is fine. Great that you are back with us.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:28, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you,Ymblanter. :) I'm hoping to keep up a steady commitment to copyright cleanup and maybe even start writing articles. I'm just on the verge of graduation from physical therapy, and feeling like if I don't try to hunch over my computer too much, I can keep it up! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:22, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Health is way more important than Wikipedia, be careful. However, it is a pleasure to see your name on the watchlist.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:53, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, welcome back! (P.S. The backlogs aren't as bad as they seem - Twinkle batch delete is a godsend against BH copyvios.) MER-C 17:31, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

That is very good to hear, MER-C! :D I admit to not feeling quite as tireless on those as I used to. Wow, they're tiring! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:24, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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Your beatiful edits is a bubble tea! Pirócai (talk) 17:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, Pirócai! Back into the mix again. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:45, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

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There's a page at meta about how to appeal global locks. --Pi zero (talk) 17:09, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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What does the appellant do now? 2A00:23C5:E117:6100:4CDB:9C90:9664:4A9B (talk) 18:26, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Send an email to stewards at wikimedia dot org and explain why the lock should be lifted. --Green Giant (talk) 15:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
The editor doesn't have email. Any request would be directed to you as you performed the lock. The relevant page states:

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Can you please explain the reasoning that led you to perform the lock? 2A00:23C5:E117:6100:9180:E6F5:51C7:3E2F (talk) 17:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Please carry on this discussion on the wiki where this happened. Neither this project, nor the page is appropriate for this discussion.
•–• 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

As I said before, send an email to the stewards. There will be no correspondence entered into here. --Green Giant (talk) 18:35, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that. It would be difficult to compose a suitable appeal for this editor explaining "why the lock should be lifted" without knowledge of why the lock was imposed in the first place. Given that the editor has no email and the reasoning should be public for the edification of the Community can you nominate a venue where the reasons can be posted? 2A00:23C5:E117:6100:9180:E6F5:51C7:3E2F (talk) 18:47, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
"Given the user does not have an email" -- not our problem. If they want to appeal, create an email address. That is not asking much.
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Perhaps I didn’t make it clear. This is not a negotiation. The only venue is email correspondence between the stewards and the locked user. No representatives, advocates or lawyers. --Green Giant (talk) 19:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Given that the Foundation operates through General Counsel, I doubt that they would have made such a rule. The above IP is Agastya Chandrakant, who appears to be tech-savvy (he communicates via email, telephone and skype) and is a Bachelor of Engineering. He has already attempted to derail the discussion on Wikinews - I would ask him "What business is it of yours?" To give an analogy, vulnerable people often don't have email or internet. People who are affected by COVID-19 are instructed not to leave the house but access the government's website. If they don't have internet the government doesn't just let them die - it provides a telephone number they can ring. 2A00:23C5:E117:6100:9180:E6F5:51C7:3E2F (talk) 19:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Discussion redirected to m:User talk:AKeton (WMF). 2A00:23C5:E117:6100:9180:E6F5:51C7:3E2F (talk) 19:48, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

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I noticed that you last edited in June and I hope that all is well, especially considering the pandemic. —PaleoNeonate11:39, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Maggie last edited any Wikiproject on 13 August [14] which is still over a month ago but is not so dramatic as three months. I hope she is fine but just does not have much time for Wikipedia.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:07, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know, —PaleoNeonate14:10, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Maggie is well. We heard from her shortly before your comment. She last edited three weeks ago. 194.35.118.65 (talk) 14:12, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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For your information, I referred to a previous comment of yours about extensive quoting in citations in this discussion on Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous). You might want to have a look (and confirm that I have interpreted your comment correctly).Nigel Ish (talk) 17:23, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Nigel Ish . Rather late input! :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:45, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi - can you help (I also just sent you a PM)? Here’s the enquiry, as your expertise might be helpful:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AnOpenMedium#Help_me!_re_Andrea_Dworkin_image

Hope you can explain and help sort things out. AnOpenMedium (talk) 17:39, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Replied. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:46, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your help and useful clarity. However one remark you make seems to suggest some higher-level thinking/action might be needed:
>>I do not think that Commons has a protocol for revision deleting the unlicensed version
Do you mean by this that Commons has no mechanism for dealing with copyright infringements? Is it crammed with stolen images? Surely just because one calls a website Commons does not provide any comfort in law? This would seem to be a general issue needing attention. Or have I misunderstood again? -- AnOpenMedium (talk) 08:47, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
I'll answer here but copy to your page as well. I'm sorry for not explaining better; you always seem so knowledgeable that I forget sometimes that there are layers of policy and practice that are unfamiliar to you!
There are several levels of "deletion" that are technically possible on our sites. What I was referring to was the level of deletion available on Commons, which is a different project from Wikipedia. I'm less familiar with which levels of deletion are used for what situation.
What I did removed the version of the image from publication (although there is sometimes an odd server lag before the change is visible to me- a Commons administrator would probably know why that happens, and it might have been on my computer only.) The copyright violating content is no longer published and visible to users of Commons or users of the Wikipedia projects where that image has been used. There are two additional layers of deletion which can be invoked in certain circumstances. On English Wikipedia, we have traditionally used (not being very active, I would need to review current practices) "revision deletion" for circumstances where a copyvio might be either intentionally or accidentally restored. That helps protect against that. I am not sure if Commons has such a protocol. Their risks and needs are different than this text-based project. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:17, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Very many thanks! This makes sense but seems an area that needs specialised knowledge. Let's see what happens when you pass the message on. :) --AnOpenMedium (talk) 09:17, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Just to say, a comment has since been added to my Talk page. As the issue is not one I am in a position to pursue, I copy it again here:
>>Commons has a mechanism for revision deletion. Some people just request it at commons:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard or you could use the {{Speedydelete}} template with a clear explanation. Personally I think the first is the safer option.Agathoclea (talk) 11:14, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Hope this is helpful. -- AnOpenMedium (talk) 08:36, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, happy new year!

User:Diannaa - who seems to have higher Wikiauthority - has left me a message on Commons regarding an image I uploaded on Friday. Here is what I just wrote by way of reply, given as a URL as I don't know how best to link to Commons:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AnOpenMedium

I don't think I did anything I should not have done (and indeed have done many times in the past). Nonetheless I appear now to have trespassed against some new Wikistuff. As this is mighty confusing, and you know about my permissions etc, might you step in to clear this up and also help me not repeat whatever mistake I made the next time I want to give Wikipedia an image? Many thanks. AnOpenMedium (talk) 10:16, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

@AnOpenMedium: Is there a link one can insert into a file description? Or, if not, something a bit more descriptive than "Open Media Ltd"? It seems to be a technical question, easy to resolve.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:28, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Sorry User:Ymblanter, I don't understand your question. What kind of "link"? This image is not to be found online. That was the purpose of obtaining permission from the copyright holder (see my User page) and uploading it.AnOpenMedium (talk) 10:31, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Ok, I will take care of this situation.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:33, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Much appreciated, thank you. I would also be grateful for the instructions on my User page to be updated with the now correct protocol (assuming this is necessary) so as to save everybody's time in future. AnOpenMedium (talk) 10:38, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
@AnOpenMedium: I have fixed the file. For future uploads, you may want to follow the same pattern which is not in the template. You may want to add the information which you have on your page here (partially or fully) also to your Commons user page.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:40, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Thank you User:Ymblanter, I just looked at what you did. Sadly we're not quite there yet. Next to Source you have put Uploaded by the copyright holder using the verified account - yet that is not exactly right. I am *not* the copyright holder: as my User page makes clear I am however authorised by the copyright holder to upload if I want to, which is not the same thing. Might you try again?
If you want to know more you can (as suggested on my User page) contact OTRS which I see is now called the Volunteer_Response_Team.
Or would it be best to wait for User:Moonriddengirl to comment, as she is familiar with the history? AnOpenMedium (talk) 12:28, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Sure, I have replaced this with "uploaded by the authorized account". This should do the job.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:37, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for bearing with this. I'll now update and copy across my User page as you suggest. AnOpenMedium (talk) 13:19, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
As a PS User:Ymblanter, do you happen to know how to Wikilink back to English Wikipedia pages when one is within Commons? I am getting a lot of red ink instead of my links. Apologies but I know even less about Commons than I do about Wikipedia.
AnOpenMedium (talk) 13:26, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
@AnOpenMedium:, yes, sure, where you would cite [[Foo]] in the English Wikipedia you write [[:w:en:Foo|Foo]] on Commons, if I understand your question correctly.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:28, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
That's great, seems to have worked! Hope this is all done now.
AnOpenMedium (talk) 13:51, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Sadly it seems this matter is not in fact concluded. User:Diannaa has just posted this on the original Talk page in Commons:

No I did not look at your user page on en.wiki. There's no reason why I would. In the future, please add a copy of the OTRS info to the image description, like I did here. Thanks.

I can't help but think that Wikipedia and Commons should get together and have a cup of tea to chat things through. To remind everyone of the history:

i/ I uploaded images to Wikipedia for years and was even thanked for my contributions
ii/ Then someone else migrated something or other that I had uploaded over to Commons
iii/ And all craziness burst out for which I seemed to be blamed
iv/ Then User:Moonriddengirl and others stepped in, resolved whatever the incomprehensible problem was and gave me a new template to follow
v/ Last week I uploaded an image I had the right to upload and exactly followed the protocol I had been given
vi/ But User:Diannaa suggested that this was out of order, tagged the image and triggered a time-consuming exercise in putting right what I had done exactly as I had previously been told to do
vii/ Since then User:Ymblanter has had a go at resolving things and I have exactly followed User:Ymblanter's advice as to how to make things better for the future
viii/ But now User:Diannaa says - in a rather snippy tone, if I may say so as someone born and bred in England - that this still isn't good enough and I need to do yet more when uploading an image.

Based on this history, I am no longer sure I can trust the advice of any of you experts. Please discuss and resolve among yourselves and I will see if I feel like ever uploading anything to anywhere ever again. Sorry to sound disappointed but this is surely a bit silly. It certainly seems now to take a silly amount of time to do what used to be relatively simple. Thanks all. (For the avoidance of doubt - as we lawyers say - I will now stop posting on this issue until and if there is a consensus among you others.) AnOpenMedium (talk)

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Interestingly, the page was actually created in 2005 by User:Zachorious.Moonriddengirl re-created it after some sort of round robin move-deletion to rid it of copyright problems. This was just a little while before revision deletion became a thing. Twinkle couldn't have known any of that though, and the creating user hasn't edited in nearly nine years. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
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It's been a while since I've been active and I saw you on my Watchlist, and just thought I should swing by and say 'Hi!' VernoWhitney (talk) 14:22, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, VernoWhitney! I'm delighted also to see you. :D I don't volunteer much these days but am on vacation and thought I'd put a few hours in. I dream of post-retirement jazz articles. :) Thanks for keeping at the copyright grind. <3 --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:24, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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Argh! :D I'll pick it up! Rewriting one of those billions of close paraphrases, MER-C. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Done, MER-C. :) I see people are as good as they've ever been at that mandatory notice to the infringer. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:42, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

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