User talk:Joshua Jonathan

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spread of agricultral languages

I don't support it, nor do most historical linguists, but according to the Anatolian hypothesis, the spread of agricultural languages has quite a bit to do with the PIE homeland... AnonMoos (talk) 18:20, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AnonMoos: hm, yes, you're right. Nevertheless, the usual pov-pushing for an Iranian homeland. Bart Ehrman put it nice: "Most people don't want to know what happened, they want to know what to believe." Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 19:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging

Hey, JJ, thanks for weighing in at DRN. About this edit of yours on article talk: you know a ping doesn't work without a new post, on a new line, with a new sig, right? Mind you, it probably doesn't matter in this case. I've already seen it, and I should think the other two are watching the page. Bishonen | tålk 18:42, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Minor thing

I'm old-school on WP:INDENT, when I remember to be, any way. Here [1] you change my reply to Dimadick, indented as such, to be indented as a reply to you. I don't like that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: okay; I thought it was a typo. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 09:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Buddha….Indian subcontinent

Hey, would be happy to know what exactly the word India or Indian subcontinent has that makes this word political or unacceptable as for the place of birth of lord Buddha? As a Buddhist, I appreciate that you want to be constructive, but every source one looks into, one almost certainly finds the birth place of Buddha in india or Indian subcontinent (very ambiguous but it’s ok too), even ancient ones! Please help me to comprehend how South Asia is best to capture what Buddha is! South Asia is a political term, almost never used in the past. Besides, many Indians see this word as too political, a way to steer clear of the name of India somehow. furthermore, India was not in Asia but part of Gondwana and Australia. It clashed with Asia and Indian subcontinent has its own Indian plate. so why would you like to insist to erase India in this? Should we start calling Indian Ocean, the “south Asian ocean”? Since apparently India is a taboo word for you!!!??? Divinemomentever (talk) 08:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Divinemomentever: it's very simple: there is WP:CONSENSUS at The Buddha to use "South Asia"; if you want to chnage it, you'll have to gain consensus to do so. Personally I don't mind to use "ancient India" there, but others have objected to it. And I disagree that "South Asia" is a political term: it is "(ancient) India" which has become political. But please, discuss this further at Talk:The Buddha#South Asia, not here - with arguments, not rhetorics. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 08:45, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man, the whole thing called argument is political! Don’t tell me replacing “ancient India” with South Asia is not political!!! What kind of science (if any, it’s the science of rhetoric) are you talking about?

Who decides about the consensus? Please don’t shift the subject of discussion. Should we change “Indian Ocean” to paradise ocean for political consensus? It is corrupting the history, man!

give me a reason why everyone says Buddha was from india or Indian subcontinent and the so-called consensus is suddenly different? The very fact that you want to change history in order to placate someone’s sensitivity is wrong. So Leonardo Da Vinci is not Italian. There was no Italy at that time. So he is south European! Well, Southern Europe apparently is a more neutral term. Please bring about some historical facts instead of calling for political consensus! Divinemomentever (talk) 08:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To repeat: But please, discuss this further at Talk:The Buddha#South Asia, not here - with arguments, not rhetorics. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 08:56, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Did you block me? I saw I was blocked! Did I do anything problematic? not fair. Divinemomentever (talk) 09:41, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Balarama

See Dashavatar talk page.Lets sort it out. Uriiix (talk) 04:18, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]