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If you have some time kindly assist me in neutralizing and removing blatant POV content from Salafi , Wahabi Articles.There I found several non neutral ,unverefiable, highly biased partisan sources praising the movements.Some were forums and some were dead links.The Articles are there since many years supporting un discussed POV.I have found you great objective editor who has really spend his much time in solving problems on wikipedia.Your inputs on talk pages may help in keeping these articles neutral. Shabiha (talk) 21:09, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm flattered by your comments but already have numerous articles I've been meaning to get back to to edit. If you have a RfC or something like that about non neutral, unverifiable, highly biased partisan sources in these articles, leave a message on my page. I know it's very difficult and time consuming to try and make edits that clash with partisans of a point of view. BoogaLouie (talk) 21:44, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

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Please help edit the Salafi rulings of Salat and Islamic_views_on_sin . Thanks. - Verycuriousboy (talk) 06:45, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

RfC input needed

Hi my friend.Input would be appreciated at an RfC and also at an RfC .Please comment. Shabiha (talk) 22:44, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Deobandis and Barelvis

Returning to your questions, I hope I can provide some clarity - this time without interruption.

Yes, Deobandis have been involved in shrine attacks. Some Deobandis also participate in the worship rituals at these shrines. Like other large movements, Deobandism is not monolithic and there are splits - just like with Barelvis.

Not all Sufis accept shrines for saints; this is a misconception based on Sufis who DO accept shrines promoting their view as the only valid view in Sufism.

Tawassul is a controversial issue. Deobandis allow it in general but they do it in a different way than Barelvis. Even the Salafis are split, and some of them allow tawassul too.

Deobandis are 100% Sufi but again, in a way which is different than Barelvis. Deobandis are traditionally adherents of the Naqshbandi Sufi order. Barelvis deny this due to animosity between the groups, and as you will notice even with Barelvi editors here, most of them brand all non-Barelvis are being the same and being Wahhabis.

Lashkar Jaingvi and Sipa Sahaba are splinter groups, just like Gama'ha Islamiyya was a splinter group of the Muslim Brotherhood. They came from the same ideology but when they branched off, they essentially because a sub-faction outside of the group's mainstream.

Deobandis are currently experiencing huge doctrinal splits according to my Pakistani friends. The movement and its leaders do their best to hide this as they feel it's a private matter for the movement to discuss with its members only, but there's definitely a split.

Part of the problem consists of statements by Barelvis and others that Sufism means saint worship, visiting graves and shouting "O Prophet of Allah!" A perusal of the Sufism article will show that the meaning of Sufism has changed through different times and places, and nobody can lay exclusive ownership to the term. That's a lot of writing but I hope that it gave you the answers you need.

Anyway...about Sufi-Salafi relations. It didn't garner enough support because Shabiha essentially flooded the discussion page, otherwise it wouldn't have lasted. What do you suggest doing now? You already merged some material out; would it be better to just work on the article, merge out unrelated material, delete unsourced or non-NPOV material, and try to salvage it? If so, would you be willing to help some more? MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:11, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh Lordy, this is making my head hurt. I promised myself I'd work on causes of the subprime bubble and 1953 Iranian coup, but yes, your proposals some sensible and I will try to make time for this article too.

But anyways, thank you for the info. My main field is/was Islamism -- Shia and Sunni -- my knowledge of Sufism was and is limited. --BoogaLouie (talk) 16:53, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

All of us have our specialties and limitations. I'm actually not a specialist on any topic relating to Islam - I am a hobbyist, and I only infrequently edit articles about my own academic/professional specialty (technical communication). It's all about what you can provide.

Look man, work on what makes you happy. I only made a suggestion because I've seen your edits for, what, six years now? And I know that you don't push any agendas.

Anyway, there are holy sites to Sufis other than tombs. In Tunisia, the Sufis will commonly say that aside from Mecca and Medina, there are five other mosques in the Muslim world which they also consider holy mosques. But at least 80% of the holy sites in Sufi Islam are tombs, yes. Sufism has had a big emphasis on pious predecessors and saints, quite different from the emphasis of Sufism at its beginning when it was only for the learned; now, it's mostly for laymen and has changed considerably as a movement. Not surprising giving its age. Would you like help on the Sufi holy sites article? MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:29, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Sounded a little mopy I'm afraid. I should probably stick to Sufi-Salafi relations. Seems like Holiest sites in Sufi Islam needs a lot of work but I've already started on Sufi-Salafi, so I'll try to make progress there. --BoogaLouie (talk) 23:37, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

That's cool; Sufi-Salafi relations seems to be the more problematic piece. When that's wrapped up, I could take a look at Sufi holy sites as well. Also do you know a new user called "johnleeds"? He's been looking for people who would help with gradual changes to various Islam-related articles. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:27, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

BTW, do you remember which parts of the article you merged out? It would be reasonable to remove those portions from the main article since they exist elsewhere on WP. There are other things to be done, but I think this aspect might shorten the overall article and make copyediting and neutralizing the remaining portions easier. MezzoMezzo (talk) 17:14, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

For the "Persecution" section I pretty much rewrote and re-researched everything except the Pakistan section which I reckoned (following what you said and other things on the internet I read said) was not a clear cut case of persecution of Sufis. Ideally this shouldn't eliminate the need for sections in the Sufi-Salafi relations article focusing on relations between the two groups rather than what bad things that have been done to Sufis. At the rate I'm going though, the ideal won't be done any time soon. --BoogaLouie (talk) 17:45, 20 March 2013 (UTC) --BoogaLouie (talk) 17:45, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

That's cool, slow and heavy swings the club as I once read on a Magic: The Gathering playing card. The work you've done so far is great. I will see what else I could help with as well. MezzoMezzo (talk) 11:18, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Modudi and theodemocracy

In Pakistani sense and in other Sunni Muslim countries, theocracy means "government of clerics". Within Islamist discourse, theocracy is a separate idea from an 'civil Islamic state'. Modudi never talked about "theo-democracy". In his book "Khilafet o mlookiat" he has condemned the whole idea of distinct institution of clergy in Islam. he was simply a "Islamist democrat", not a "theodemocrat". --Ahmed 313-326 (talk) 01:49, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid we have reliable sources stating otherwise. We cannot take your sayso on this. --BoogaLouie (talk) 19:35, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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Opinion pieces

Your recent edit to the article on the Salafi movement used an opinion piece (US-English think piece) as a source. Please read Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Opinion pieces are only considered reliable sources for statements of the writer's opinion. I suggest that you look in Robin Wright's other publications to see if he/she made similar observations in something that Wikipedia considers a reliable source.--Toddy1 (talk) 20:35, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't think wright's position that until the last decade or so salafi were generally apolitical is controversial but will try to find a less problematic source saying so. --BoogaLouie (talk) 21:09, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Sufi Salafi relations

Really awesome work, but I'm about to go handle something out of the office. Once I get back, I will go through the article thoroughly so I can give you a more cogent response. Hopefully, we can remove more of those templates at the top of the article. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:30, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

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Credit rating agency

Hello there BoogaLouie, I am excited to see that you are putting some attention on the Credit rating agency article. It really, really needs it.

Over time I have worked with other editors to make improvements to some articles about Moody's Investors Service. My focus is not random: I have actually done so as an outside consultant to Moody's. This does not mean they dictate the content of my contributions: they have expressed their views of issues to me, however the research and writing and the drafts I have offered are my own work, following Wikipedia's policies and guidelines with regard to NPOV, reliable sources and so on. In addition, because I care very much about following WP:COI guidelines I have not directly edited one of these articles in a very long time.

Meanwhile, there has been concern that the CRA article is not very helpful to readers to understand the industry, and I've been researching new sections and considering working on existing ones. On the article's discussion page, you will see I have proposed some changes in recent months. Just a few minutes ago I posted a suggestion to the article about how to handle the "Big Three" topic and while I realize it is a different direction than you have taken this topic recently, I am interested to hear your feedback on my suggestions. And if you are interested, I've just about finished a "History of credit rating agencies" section, and I'd like to help improve the "Uses" and "Criticism" sections too. Please let me know if you are interested, and I will also watch that article for a reply. Many thanks, Mysidae (talk) 22:39, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf

Hi. On this edit, you also restored copyvio content which I recently removed. Could you do your edit on the last version?Farhikht (talk) 17:59, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

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Credit rating agency - Role in capital markets update

Hi there, BoogaLouie. Just touching base here to see if you've had a chance to review the "Role in capital markets" draft I posted several weeks ago on the CRA talk page. I just posted an update there noting the previous request for review and linking to a revamped version of my proposed structure for the entire article. Do let me know if there's anything else I can do facilitate the review process. I do appreciate you taking the time to look over all of this. Many thanks again, Mysidae (talk) 19:16, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey Mysidea, sorry to take so long. Lots of sources and such. Will some rewrites I've been working on. Not done yet. --BoogaLouie (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

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Please read the text before adding edits. Most of your edit in "Human rights abuses" today was already there, as were your citations. --P123ct1 (talk) 14:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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reply to this. I had read text before adding edits. I know most of my edit in "Human rights abuses" today "was already there, as were [my] citations". (How could I not? the citations I added -- <ref name=reuters-scores/> <ref name=UN-1000/> <ref name=un-2000/> <ref name=un-executes/> -- were based on the originals! )

I wanted to add a quick summary of what ISIS is accused of. I put it to you that the lay person reading the article is interested firstly in what ISIS is accused of doing and not who the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights is, or what he has appealed to world leaders to do.

ISIS/ISIL/Islamic State is an extremely topical issue and frankly this article does not reflect well on wikipedia. --BoogaLouie (talk) 22:27, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

If it was already there, I can't understand why you needed to repeat it. There are two sections where the current criticisms of ISIL can go: "Human rights and abuses" and "Criticism of the "Islamic State". Have you noticed that last one?I was the one responsible for opening that section recently for editors to record exactly the sort of thing you are talking about: world outrage at what ISIL are doing. I am glad to see that edits are being made to this section daily now. --P123ct1 (talk) 22:39, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

"Criticism of the "Islamic State" is made up of comments by people and groups criticizing ISIS. "Human rights and abuses" is what the group has done to prisoners of war, civilians, and girls and women from shia and minority groups. What I am "talking about" is what ISIS has done and is doing, not how much people and groups don't like it. --BoogaLouie (talk) 22:54, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

I see what you mean now. As the article is currently constructed, the best place for your general statement would be in "As Islamic State" (2.2.4 of the "History" section), where you will see the last entry is a brief summary comment on ISIL's treatment of the Yazidis (expanded on in "Human rights abuses"). Main events that have been happening since the group became the Islamic State are being chronicled there. (The timeline article is much more detailed.) You may want to put your edit in there. My apologies for dismissing it in the way I did, but until now I didn't understand what you meant by it. --P123ct1 (talk) 13:48, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

OK, I see your point. I'll try there. --BoogaLouie (talk) 21:21, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Good.  :) --P123ct1 (talk) 22:21, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

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Please note this conversation here. Am attempting to create a more useful article on a party will replace the disambugation page. --BoogaLouie (talk) 21:01, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

ISIS - Kurds

Hello, there. Just a courtesy note to say I stupidly reverted moved your Kurd edit to another section, thinking the Kurds were not a minority group. I checked afterwards and found that they are, so reverted my revert change. Many apologies. ~ P123ct1 (talk) 04:07, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

They're an ethnic minority but not a religious minority, and it's the religious minorities that are particularly targeted by IS, so I could see how someone would think the sentence doesn't belong there. --BoogaLouie (talk) 18:40, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

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I don't know if the disambiguation should be changed. You can if you want but you will have to fix the redirects that pointed to previous page. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 18:19, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Good idea. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 18:41, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

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Ahmadiyyah

Thank you for looking up the source and for helping in the article, but I apologize to say that the information you provided makes no sense. The Ahmadiyyah have always believed that the Prophethood of their founder is "reflective". The author you quoted is mistaken for not a Single other source exists which says that any reconciliation was arranged. And as he says that this did not go through he has very "conveniently" side stepped the need to provide proof. To be honest without any written proof this is just a "conspiracy theory" which is not notable enough to be mentioned in an encyclopedia.

Ahmadiyyah have always believed in the presence of three types of Prophethood. They have always believed that the founder is the Mahdi. This has never changed. I hope I can convince you to self revertFreeatlastChitchat (talk) 03:39, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

What I wrote says "According to Charles Kennedy". Kennedy is a reputable academic, who's spent many years in Pakistan. Do you disagree that there was a change in doctrine that a "reflective" prophet is a third kind of prophet? not on the same par as Isa?

What Kennedy is saying or at least suggesting AFAICT is not that "any reconciliation was arranged" but that Mahmud Ahmad hoped that this adjustment in doctrine would calm the rage of the anti-Ahmadi.

Ahmadiyyah have always believed in the presence of three types of Prophethood. Then why does the article say However, there are two kinds of prophethood as understood by the Community -- after your edit?

I will get back to this inshallah after I'm done with other edits. --BoogaLouie (talk) 15:26, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Islamic modernism

What does it mean " (The connection between the "Salafi Movement" of Jamal al-Din al-Afghani and Muhammad Abduh and modernism is noted by some, [4] [5] [6] while others say Islamic Modernism only influenced Salafism. "?

Do you mean to say " The connection between the "Salafi Movement" of Jamal al-Din al-Afghani and Muhammad Abduh and "Salafism" is noted by some, [4] [5] [6] while others say Islamic Modernism only influenced Salafism.?

Did you write Modernism in place of Salafism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ejaz92 (talk • contribs) 13:45, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

In English people assume "Salafi Movement" and Salafism are the same. I have never seen an English language source that distinguished between "Salafi Movement" and Salafism. Have you found one? Or how about an arabic or urdu source that says this?

I changed [Islamic Modernism] "has also been called Salafi Movement [4] [5] [6] while others say Islamic Modernism only influenced Salafism", to

"The connection between the `Salafi Movement` of Jamal al-Din al-Afghani and Muhammad Abduh and modernism is noted by some, [4] [5] [6] while others say Islamic Modernism only influenced Salafism"

because the sources ([4] [5] [6]) don't really say Islamic Modernism "has also been called Salafi Movement".

They suggest it. They talk about how modernist the original salafi movement of Jamal al-Din al-Afghani was. But they don't call the Islamic Modernist movement the Salafi Movement. --BoogaLouie (talk) 15:29, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

You are right " In English people assume Salafi Movement and Salafism are the same".

When I wrote " Islamic Modernism "has also been called Salafi Movement" it does not meant I am equating Islamic modernism with cotemporary Salafism or Salafi Movement rather I am just talking about the naming of this particular movement (islamic modernism) led by jamal ud din, md. abduh and rashid rida.You also said the same we you quoted " The early Islamic Modernists (al-Afghani and Muhammad Abdu) used the term "salafiyya" to refer to their attempt at renovation of Islamic thought, [3] and this "salafiyya movement" is often known in the West as `Islamic modernism,`".

Now come to my objection:

you wrote " The connection between the `Salafi Movement` of Jamal al-Din al-Afghani and Muhammad Abduh and modernism is noted by some, [4] [5] [6] ".

You tried to show that salafi movement was led by afghani and abduh while islamic modernism was a different thing.The two had only some connections.

Where is it mentioned in the ref: 4,5, and 6 that the `Salafi Movement` of Jamal al-Din al-Afghani and Muhammad Abduh and modernism was not the same thing?Infact the islamic modernism was founded by afghani and abduh and they themselves gave their it the name salafi movement.

Do you think a person(Md abduh) can lead two difderent movements at the same time? No it was a single movement but with the two name.

You can take the reference from your own edit :

The early Islamic Modernists (al-Afghani and Muhammad Abdu) used the term "salafiyya" to refer to their attempt at renovation of Islamic thought, [3] and this "salafiyya movement" is often known in the West as `Islamic modernism,`" although it is very different from what is currently called Salafism , which generally signifies "ideologies such as wahhabism". [3] So if you dont think that ref. 4,5,6 support my argument then use your own reference ref..no.3.

A good solution is to delete this sentence.Start the article with : " Islamic Modernismalso called as salafi movement " ...............

use the reference no.3. plus if you are agree use ref. no.4,5& 6. these references also talk about the the same same movement (Islamic movement) of afgani, Abduh and rashid rida but used the name of salafi movement.As it says :" In terms of their respective formation, Wahhabism and Salafism were quite distinct.Wahhabism was a pared-down Islam that rejected modern influences, while Salafism sought to reconcile Islam with modernism." (ref:5) Ejaz92 (talk) 11:06, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

You tried to show that salafi movement was led by afghani and abduh while islamic modernism was a different thing.

You are right. I misspoke (misedited) This has got to change.

A good solution is to delete this sentence.Start the article with : " Islamic Modernismalso called as salafi movement "

No can do. In contemporary English usage saying Islamic Modernism is a synonym for salafi movement, just confuses people. I will make a change and then we can argue about that and maybe do a Request for Comment --BoogaLouie (talk) 18:38, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

I did not say that salafi movement (led by afghani and abduh) and islamic modernism was a different thing.You tried to say that.I said these two were the same movement. But the sect thar is called salafism in present time is not the salafi movement of afghani and abduh.You can see it in " influence on salafism" sectio. Ejaz92 (talk) 18:54, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

See if you like this: (The origins of contemporary Salafism in the the modernist "Salafi Movement" of Jamal al-Din al-Afghani and Muhammad Abduh and is noted by some, while others say Islamic Modernism only influenced contemporary Salafism.)

ok. Good solution. Ejaz92 (talk) 06:50, 17 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ejaz92 (talk • contribs) 06:43, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

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The author you spoke of never actually visited in Saudi Arabia and I've consulted with people who lives there and tells me that homosexuality doesn't exist, the amount of homosexuals there are so low that it's basically non-exisitant. I'm giving you one more warning if you undo my edit one ore time I'll report you for starting an edit war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.50.138.253 (talk) 19:54, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

I quoted four journalists/writers: Whitaker, Bradley, Lobi, and Lacey. They have all have spent a lot of time in Saudi. --BoogaLouie (talk) 21:20, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

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		Great work with the revamp of Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq's Islamization and Islamic economics in Pakistan (and other articles, if I've missed any!). I can see the massive and painstaking effort it must have taken to completely rewrite and expand those articles. The end product is two brilliantly written and very informative articles :) Mar4d (talk) 13:43, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, regarding your changes to the lead of Gamal Abdel Nasser, I reverted them because they repeat what's already stated in the lead (not just the body of the article). The lead is already quite long, and if anything it might need to be shortened a bit (without sacrificing important info or structure). I understand your intention here, but the summary-within-summary is unnecessary and makes the lead even longer than it should be. Also, there's too many generalities and contestable descriptions in the summary you added, but that's another matter. --Al Ameer (talk) 01:41, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

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All I add is deleted, I get block if I restore, what best course of action? you info was deleted as well The last Watch (talk) 14:24, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Not sure what what best course of action is. Will have to investigate --BoogaLouie (talk) 22:53, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

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Balochistan

Hi Booga, I've tried to make the dispute at Balochistan known to a few WikiProjects Notice board for Pakistan-related topics‎, WikiProject Geography, and WikiProject Human Rights. If you have any other thoughts for WikiProjects I should contact, I'm all ears. History? I'd like to get a wide range of opinions. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:34, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Cyphoid. Ya, I think history would be good. But I'm not sure how to proceed. I think I should ask the two admins. --BoogaLouie (talk) 16:38, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Thomas W is not an admin, if that's who you meant. Drmies is. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:26, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

My mistake. Maybe I should try Drmies then. --BoogaLouie (talk) 18:31, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Drmies is cool. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:44, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

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Hey BL: FYI [1] Your trim removed Edward's comment and now your sig is missing. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:14, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Oh wait, that was just a quote, right? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:15, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Oops. added my signature. Yes, I was quoting from the Talk:Balochistan page. The post was more about personalities than I would have preferred but ... --BoogaLouie (talk) 20:18, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

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