User talk:KCVelaga/Archive 8
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The Bugle: Issue CLIX, July 2019
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Structured Data on Commons - IRC office hours this week, 18 July
The Structured Data team is hosting an IRC office hour this week on Thursday, 18 July, from 17:00-18:00 UTC. Joining information as well as date and time conversion is available on Meta. Potential topics for discussion are the testing of "other statements", properties that may need to be created for Commons on Wikidata soon, plans for the rest of SDC development, or whatever you might want to discuss. The development team looks forward to seeing you there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:51, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
[SVG Translation Campaign 2019 India] Feedback survey
Greetings,
Many thanks for participating in the SVG Translation Campaign 2019 in India. It had been quite a successful campaign—194 users from 19 Indic languages took part in the campaign for 38 days, and have created more than 2,500 SVG files, all of them having labels in native Indian languages. You may read the complete report of the campaign at https://w.wiki/3yn.
We would like to thank you again for translating SVG files as a part of this campaign, your contributions have given thousands of people the knowledge that they need the most. Now we would like to have your feedback about the overall campaign, how effective were the training sessions, the resources provided, the support etc.
Please fill the feedback survey at https://forms.gle/4TCicfYzjAGVvKTy6
Your responses are extremely valuable to us, and will be of immense help to understand further training needs or plan future activities in this area. Let us know if you have any questions.
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Structured Data - testing other statements
You can now test using other statements for structured data on the file page on Test-Commons. Some datatypes are not yet available, such a coordinates, but further support will be extended soon. You can find more information about testing on the SDC talk page. The team looks forward to your feedback. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
This Month in Education: July 2019
This Month in GLAM: July 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019
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Invitation to project revival
Dear user, I, with Willbb234, are a attempting to revive the Wikiproject Requested Articles, of which you are a member. If you wish to be a part of our effort, feel free to add your signature in it's talk page. Best regards, Eni vak (speak) 16:26, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Backlog Banzai
In the month of September, Wikiproject Military history is running a project-wide edit-a-thon, Backlog Banzai. There are heaps of different areas you can work on, for which you claim points, and at the end of the month all sorts of whiz-bang awards will be handed out. Every player wins a prize! There is even a bit of friendly competition built in for those that like that sort of thing. Sign up now at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/September 2019 Backlog Banzai to take part. For the coordinators, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:38, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
This Month in Education: August 2019
This Month in GLAM: August 2019
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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello KCVelaga,
- Backlog
Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
- Coordinator
A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
- This month's refresher course
Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
- Deletion tags
Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
- Paid editing
Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
- Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
- Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
- Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.
- Not English
- A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
- Tools
Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.
Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.
Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.
DannyS712 bot III is now patrolling certain categories of uncontroversial redirects. Curious? Check out its patrol log.
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Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
G'day everyone, voting for the 2019 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CLXI, September 2019
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Structured Data - computer-aided tagging
Wikiproject Military history coordinator election half-way mark
G'day everyone, the voting for the XIX Coordinator Tranche is at the halfway mark. The candidates have answered various questions, and you can check them out to see why they are running and decide whether you support them. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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Books & Bytes – Issue 35, July – August 2019
Books & Bytes
Issue 35, July – August 2019
- Wikimania
- We're building something great, but..
- Wikimedia and Libraries User Group update
- A Wikibrarian's story
- Bytes in brief
On behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:58, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
This Month in Education: September 2019
Structured Data - modeling data
As you may have seen, there are community discussions underway on how to best model structured data on Commons.
Direct links to pages created so far:
- Date (talk)
- Source (talk)
- Author (talk)
- Copyright (talk)
- Licensing (talk)
- Location (talk)
- Quality (talk)
This Month in GLAM: September 2019
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PROD vs BLPPROD
Hey, regarding your removal of a PROD tag on Heidi Joubert on the basis that it doesn't meet BLPPROD, PROD and BLPPROD are two separate deletion protocols, BLPPROD's restrictions do not apply to all PRODs on BLP articles (see WP:BLPPROD#Scope) Yes this is very confusing, no I don't know how we ended up with these names. My guess would be because BLPPROD tags can be removed by non-admins more similarly to PROD than to AfD or CSD.. I've decided to proceed to AfD anyway per the rule that PROD cannot be re-added even if it is removed for bad reasons, but figure I should let you know for future cases. signed, Rosguill talk 14:36, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Rosguill: I am still confused about this. The scope says that it applies to "to articles that are biographies of living people" The article is question is biography of a living person, then how doesn't that come under BLPPROD. Kindly explain how the article doesn't come under the scope of BLPPROD. KCVelaga (talk) 17:49, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- I think the easiest way to think about it is that PROD and BLPPROD are separate protocols. BLPPROD is valid if and only if an article 1) is a BLP and 2) has NO citations whatsoever. That latter criterion was not met in this case, but it still clearly didn't meet notability guidelines so PROD was appropriate.
- The reason for why these are both called PROD is because of the method of deletion. Unlike speedy deletion, where an admin can delete at their discretion at any time once the tag is placed, a BLPPROD must stay on the article for a full week before it's time for deletion, similar to how a PROD works. signed, Rosguill talk 17:54, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Rosguill: Thanks for clarifying. I need to read more in this area. Also, while removing I felt that there needs to be a larger discussion around, as I was not 100% convinced that the subject wasn't notable. KCVelaga (talk) 17:59, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- That's a totally valid reason to remove a PROD tag. Ciao! signed, Rosguill talk 18:23, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Rosguill: Thanks for clarifying. I need to read more in this area. Also, while removing I felt that there needs to be a larger discussion around, as I was not 100% convinced that the subject wasn't notable. KCVelaga (talk) 17:59, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Structured Data - computer-aided tagging designs
I've published a design consultation for the computer-aided tagging tool. Please look over the page and participate on the talk page. If you haven't read over the project page, it might be helpful to do so first. The tool will hopefully be ready by the end of this month (October 2019), so timely feedback is important. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:09, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Please have a look
Hi. I have recently nominated Indian Military Academy as a Good Article. Please do have a look when you have time, and see how it can be improved or if it is good enough to pass the nomination. Can you see any changes that need to be made? You have a lot of experience with GANs and Indian military history that is why I am asking. Regards and thanks. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 02:47, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CLXII, October 2019
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WikiProject India
Namaste, KCVelaga. We would like to inform you about the recent changes to the WikiProject. As you may know, the old newsletter for WikiProject India ceased circulation in 2010. Now we have re-launched the newsletter in a new way. As a member, you are cordially invited to subscribe to the newsletter. Thank you.
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This Month in Education: October 2019
New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello KCVelaga,
This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.
- Getting the queue to 0
There are now 803 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox.
Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.
- Coordinator
Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.
- This month's refresher course
Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.
- Tools
- It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
- It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
- Reviewer Feedback
Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13.
- Second set of eyes
- Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
- Do be sure to have our talk page on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
- Arbitration Committee
The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights.
- Community Wish list
There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion.
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Another small reminder...
Hi. Once you are back from your wiki hiatus, and if you want and have time, please do go through Indian Military Academy. It is a GAN and this is one of your core strength areas on Wikipedia where you have a lot of experience. (Archive bot ate up my last request so hope you don't mind another one.) Thanks and regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 12:29, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- @DiplomatTesterMan: I am pretty much active with Wikimedia - just busy with a few non en-WP projects. Thanks for giving me a heads up on this. I generally don't review articles related to Indian military because I work a lot around this topic area. However, since I haven't contributed almost anything to this article, I can take this up. But please give me ping again if no one takes up by 10 November -- I will take up then, and start reviewing. Also please note, due to my extremely hectic schedule, the review might go a bit slow. Regards, KCVelaga (talk) 13:01, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- Will do. (Although I was asking for a more general sort of look over than a review) But yes will ping, glad you would be willing to take it up. Thanks a lot. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 13:12, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CLXIII, November 2019
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This Month in GLAM: October 2019
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Books & Bytes – Issue 36
Books & Bytes
Issue 36, September – October 2019
- #1Lib1Ref January 2020
- #1Lib1Ref 2019 stories and learnings
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IMA still a GAN reminder
As per this and this short chat....this is a followup. I don't mind waiting a bit longer for someone to start the GAN. I only nominated it on 6 October so it hasnt been that long. Though you had said to remind you if no one takes it up by the 10th... I was just waiting for the COE to finish. You had mentioned the busy schedule last time, same here as of now. But yeh I am so looking forward to it since this will be my first. DTM (talk) 11:22, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
This Month in Education: November 2019
This Month in GLAM: November 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIV, December 2019
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New Page Review newsletter December 2019
- Reviewer of the Year
This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.
Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.
Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.
Rank | Username | Num reviews | Log |
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1 | Rosguill (talk) | 47,395 | Patrol Page Curation |
2 | Onel5969 (talk) | 41,883 | Patrol Page Curation |
3 | JTtheOG (talk) | 11,493 | Patrol Page Curation |
4 | Arthistorian1977 (talk) | 5,562 | Patrol Page Curation |
5 | DannyS712 (talk) | 4,866 | Patrol Page Curation |
6 | CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) | 3,995 | Patrol Page Curation |
7 | DragonflySixtyseven (talk) | 3,812 | Patrol Page Curation |
8 | Boleyn (talk) | 3,655 | Patrol Page Curation |
9 | Ymblanter (talk) | 3,553 | Patrol Page Curation |
10 | Cwmhiraeth (talk) | 3,522 | Patrol Page Curation |
(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)
- Redirect autopatrol
A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.
- Source Guide Discussion
Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
- This month's refresher course
While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag.
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Happy First Edit Day!
- @CAPTAIN RAJU: Many thanks for this message. It felt so good and nostalgic to see this. Thanks again, KCVelaga (talk) 14:30, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Verifiability of medals on uniforms of Indian military officers
Hey KCV, how are you? Remember that discussion we had about verifiability of medals on uniforms of Indian military personnel? That same issue is now a cause of edit-war on Gen. Naravane's article. Can you please help me out in explaining the IP user, that even though his edits are in good faith, he's adding unsourced information on a WP:BLP, and his edit is WP:OR. Regards. —Sarvatra (talk, contribs) 14:16, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Sarvatra: Ah, that's a pain. I have requested semi-protection for a couple of weeks as a first measure, please ping the IP(s) on the article's talk page and ask them to provide with their line of reasoning for adding the medals, we can have a discussion there. KCVelaga (talk) 14:45, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: December 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXV, January 2020
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Books & Bytes – Issue 37
On behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:10, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
This Month in Education: January 2020
This Month in GLAM: January 2020
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New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020
Hello KCVelaga,
- Source Guide Discussion
The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.
- Redirects
New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL.
- Discussions and Resources
- There is an ongoing discussion around changing notifications for new editors who attempt to write articles.
- A recent discussion of whether Michelin starred restraunts are notable was archived without closure.
- A resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month.
- A proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn.
- Refresher
Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.
Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7095 Low – 4991 High – 7095
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The Bugle: IssueICLXVI, February 2020
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Invitation to participate in a discussion about publicly disclosing subscribers of TWL resources
Hi KCVelaga, I have started a discussion over our Village pump with the aim of maintaining a public list of all editors who are granted access to any TWL resource. Your thoughts and opinions on the proposal are welcome:-) Regards, ∯WBGconverse
16:24, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
March Madness 2020
G'day all, March Madness 2020 is about to get underway, and there is bling aplenty for those who want to get stuck into the backlog by way of tagging, assessing, updating, adding or improving resources and creating articles. If you haven't already signed up to participate, why not? The more the merrier! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC) for the coord team
This Month in Education: February 2020
This Month in Education
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This Month in GLAM: February 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXVII, March 2020
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This Month in Education: March 2020
This Month in GLAM: March 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXVIII, April 2020
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Issue 38, January – April 2020
Books & Bytes
Issue 38, January – April 2020
- New partnership
- Global roundup
On behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --15:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Your thread has been archived
Hi KCVelaga! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse,
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This Month in Education: April 2020
A plate of Shami kebab for you
A plate of Shami kebab for you | ||
Here is a plate of Shami kebab for you. is a popular Iranian and Indian variety of kebab, also found in Pakistani and Bangladeshii cuisine. It is composed of a small patty of minced meat, (usually chevon in India, but occasionally lamb or mutton), with ground chickpeas, egg to hold it together, and spices. Thank you. Titodutta (talk) 18:37, 7 May 2020 (UTC) |
- @Titodutta: Thanks Tito, especially after I trying to be active again here, after being dormant for a few months now. KCVelaga (talk) 13:53, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: April 2020
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WikiProject India 10,000 Challenge
The Bugle: Issue CLXIX, May 2020
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DRN Volunteer Roll Call - Action Required
There has been no roll call since November 2017 so with that said, it is time to clean up the volunteer list. Please go to the Roll Call list and follow the instructions. If no response is received by May 30, 2020, it will be assumed that you no longer wish to participate and you will be removed as a DRN volunteer. Thank you for your attention to this and for helping Wikipedians in their dispute processes.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of Galendalia CVU Member \ Chat Me Up at 12:08, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Happy Diwali
"Hello, In this festive season of lights, rangoli, fireworks and sweets. I like to wish you & your family a very Happy and Prosperous Diwali". Regards,--Rajeeb (talk!) |
05:50, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Copyright problem on Draft:Happiness Curriculum
Content you added to the above article appears to have been copied from http://www.edudel.nic.in/welcome_folder/happiness/HappinessCurriculumFramework_2019.pdf, which is not released under a compatible license. I also found some copied from https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-what-is-happiness-curriculum-6281103/. Copying text directly from a source is a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Unfortunately, for copyright reasons, some content had to be removed. Content you add to Wikipedia should be written in your own words. Please leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions. — Diannaa (talk) 13:39, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi @Diannaa: thanks for the message. The document will soon be released by the copyright holder to Wikimedia Commons, along with a few other images which are to be used on the article. Is it possible to hold the content for 7 days (awaiting OTRS permission) or would you be happy to add it back once OTRS is confirmed? KCVelaga (talk) 13:57, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Let's wait for the OTRS ticket. The copyright holder is SCERT, so this could potentially take a while to happen. Please ping me if the OTRS agent is not an admin on this wiki and I will get the content re-added.— Diannaa (talk) 14:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Diannaa: Sure. The permission will be from an education-department official from the Government of Delhi, whom I have already been talking to. I will get back to you once the OTRS email is received on our end. KCVelaga (talk) 14:03, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi @Nat: thanks for processing the OTRS email regarding media files related Happiness Curriculum. Now that the above document (c:File:Happiness Curriculum Framework.pdf) is under an open license, please re-add content as per the above discussion. @Diannaa: FYI, KCVelaga (talk) 17:57, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello KCVelaga, @Nat: sorry but Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license is not a compatible license for text on en.wiki. So I won't be able to re-add the material at this time. Please see Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright#Can I add something to Wikipedia that I got from somewhere else? for a list of compatible licenses for en.wiki. — Diannaa (talk) 18:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Diannaa: Will it be okay if the file is re-licensed under 3.0? Nat, sorry for the confusion, is relicensing possible (or addition of 3.0 to the existing) if there is another email from the copyright holder? If not, what would be the way around this? KCVelaga (talk) 18:23, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- "Share-alike" means the license can't be changed.— Diannaa (talk) 18:52, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- KCVelaga: Diannaa is correct that the document cannot be inserted due to licensing issues. Per Commons:Multi-licensing, even if the document was relicensed under 3.0, 4.0 would take precedence. --Ìch heiss Nat ùn ìch redd e wenig Elsässisch!Talk to me in EN, FR, PL, GSW-FR(ALS). 21:02, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Diannaa and Nat: Thanks you both for your inputs. I am thinking of a few of things at this point, please let me know if any of them works. Sorry for holding to this, I am just concerned that a lot of effort of has been put into getting the media released, and you would know that convincing government organisations is a great deal. Fortunately, the department is willing release/re-release it according whatever are our requirements to make it work. I just don't want it to be a wasted opportunity. Here are my thoughts;
- If the copyright holder releases it under 3.0 again to Commons, and if we multi-license the file, wouldn't that mean 3.0 is still applicable? I mean, even if 4.0 takes precedence, that doesn't make 3.0 invalid - please correct me if I am wrong. @Nat, the Multi-licensing link you have shared talks about collages, where two images having different licenses are combined. But that is not the case here, the content is being used almost as it is, with a few modifications according to MoS. How will this work in such cases?
- Is it possible to release the content under 3.0 again to
permissions-en
, as it is generally done for content release? If so, what is the procedure and email template for the same? - Is there any other way to make this work? If not, I am thinking of converting tables into paraphrased+summarised text. However, I only want this to be the last resort.
- Thanks for the your time regarding this, I greatly appreciate it. KCVelaga (talk) 21:26, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- Per how the licences work, 4.0 would supersede 3.0, and per policy, only the 4.0 would be displayed. I did a little gander on the CC website if a licence could be downgraded, and unfortunately not. It can only be "upgraded". Your best bet would be to paraphrase and summarise, and have a thumb of the pdf file next to the text. (the collage was just an example)
- Please read Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing before adding/re-adding text (even if it's a summary or paraphrasing). --Ìch heiss Nat ùn ìch redd e wenig Elsässisch!Talk to me in EN, FR, PL, GSW-FR(ALS). 21:55, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Nat: This just came to my mind, how about re-release under CC0 Public Domain - will that supersede 4.0, and can it be used it on en-WP then, as it would not have any restricting terms? KCVelaga (talk) 05:49, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- As I have never seen that arrangement before, I wouldn't know. I would suggest reading the Creative Commons FAQ. --Ìch heiss Nat ùn ìch redd e wenig Elsässisch!Talk to me in EN, FR, PL, GSW-FR(ALS). 18:39, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- I don't know the answer to that either. It might be worthwhile to get legal advice.— Diannaa (talk) 20:39, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Nat: This just came to my mind, how about re-release under CC0 Public Domain - will that supersede 4.0, and can it be used it on en-WP then, as it would not have any restricting terms? KCVelaga (talk) 05:49, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Diannaa and Nat: Thanks you both for your inputs. I am thinking of a few of things at this point, please let me know if any of them works. Sorry for holding to this, I am just concerned that a lot of effort of has been put into getting the media released, and you would know that convincing government organisations is a great deal. Fortunately, the department is willing release/re-release it according whatever are our requirements to make it work. I just don't want it to be a wasted opportunity. Here are my thoughts;
- KCVelaga: Diannaa is correct that the document cannot be inserted due to licensing issues. Per Commons:Multi-licensing, even if the document was relicensed under 3.0, 4.0 would take precedence. --Ìch heiss Nat ùn ìch redd e wenig Elsässisch!Talk to me in EN, FR, PL, GSW-FR(ALS). 21:02, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- "Share-alike" means the license can't be changed.— Diannaa (talk) 18:52, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Diannaa: Will it be okay if the file is re-licensed under 3.0? Nat, sorry for the confusion, is relicensing possible (or addition of 3.0 to the existing) if there is another email from the copyright holder? If not, what would be the way around this? KCVelaga (talk) 18:23, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello KCVelaga, @Nat: sorry but Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license is not a compatible license for text on en.wiki. So I won't be able to re-add the material at this time. Please see Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright#Can I add something to Wikipedia that I got from somewhere else? for a list of compatible licenses for en.wiki. — Diannaa (talk) 18:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi @Nat: thanks for processing the OTRS email regarding media files related Happiness Curriculum. Now that the above document (c:File:Happiness Curriculum Framework.pdf) is under an open license, please re-add content as per the above discussion. @Diannaa: FYI, KCVelaga (talk) 17:57, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Diannaa: Sure. The permission will be from an education-department official from the Government of Delhi, whom I have already been talking to. I will get back to you once the OTRS email is received on our end. KCVelaga (talk) 14:03, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Let's wait for the OTRS ticket. The copyright holder is SCERT, so this could potentially take a while to happen. Please ping me if the OTRS agent is not an admin on this wiki and I will get the content re-added.— Diannaa (talk) 14:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
@Nat: I have gone through the FAQs regarding "Separate agreements" and "Supplemental agreements" - from my understanding there shouldn't be a problem for adding a CC0 license tag. The argument primarily talks about different licencors such as CC and GPL. Anyway, it mentions there will be a problem or it shouldn't be done only when the other license doesn't "neutralize terms of the CC license" - in this case it is CC0. As CC0 is almost non-restrictive expect for "publicity or privacy rights" which is also a clause for 4.0 - apart from that there are no conflicting terms. I think there shouldn't any problem, the question now is about how can we do it on Commons - do you think a discussion on the copyrights village pump, admins noticeboard or any other similar would be appropriate? KCVelaga (talk) 22:49, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
@Diannaa: Would it okay to add the content back if the document is re-licensed under "CC0", anything else to be taken care of, such as a discussion on English Wikipedia's noticeboard? KCVelaga (talk) 22:49, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- I already said I don't want to give an opinion on that, because I don't know the answer, and don't want to give you incorrect information on a matter that has legal consequences.— Diannaa (talk) 23:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Diannaa: Ah! Sorry missed the previous message, my bad. Thank you, KCVelaga (talk) 17:03, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- As Diannaa said, legal advice should be sought. That being said, it wouldn't hurt to start on discussion on c:Commons:Village Pump/Copyright. --Ìch heiss Nat ùn ìch redd e wenig Elsässisch!Talk to me in EN, FR, PL, GSW-FR(ALS). 20:29, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Diannaa: Ah! Sorry missed the previous message, my bad. Thank you, KCVelaga (talk) 17:03, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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