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Just to continue the conversation about the lab leak at ITN, since it was closed

I think you're right, and I would've changed my vote to Oppose. It wasn't the US Government's position that there was a lab leak, and even so it didn't mean that it was deliberately engineered. I do think we should keep an eye on the story as it unfolds, though. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 16:12, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

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Welcome back

Welcome back, Courcelles. It is nice to seeing your name around the project -- In actu (Guerillero) Parlez Moi 15:48, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

User talk:Study of Hadith with Muhammad Ismail

Hi, thanks for dealing with this. Maybe you would consider extending the block to TPA? Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:33, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Done. Courcelles (talk) 18:34, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Arbitration Enforcement Sanction:karagory

1) Administrator Courcelles, I respectfully request that my arbitration enforcement sanction be removed. In return, I promise not to make any edits about Peter Navarro anywhere in Wikipedia, ever. I don't know what else I can do to show good faith.

2) Can you answer for me what a typical/normal time period would be to archive something? I really don't know. I wasn't trying to be funny when I asked for reference. The editors I have dealt with on this article have not been all that helpful to me; other article editors have been very helpful and friendly. I really wanted, and still want to know the Wikipedia way of archiving. Thanks. Karagory (talk) 20:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

I’d be willing to let the restriction go in a few months if you go do useful edits elsewhere, but for now, I think the mandatory break from Navarro. And for most articles, 3 months is a perfectly reasonable archive time given a desire to only keep discussions up that still have active interest to be continued, archiving bots run by the most recent time stamp, not the oldest, so even a quick note that you want to keep talking about an issue would reset the clock. Courcelles (talk) 00:28, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
I would certainly agree to that restriction. I will not edit the Navarro article even after the restriction as a show of good faith. Thank you for your explanation. All I was looking for was little assistance instead of: NO, that it was way it is because I said so; that is not the Wikipedia way. I know you put up with a lot of grief as an Administrator, but I appreciate you making Wikipedia better. Thanks Karagory (talk) 13:13, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Why delete and redirect? Why not simply redirect? I saw no assertion the comment was defamatory, COPYVIO, attack/harassment, tainted by socks, or any other reason that we would want to deny regular editors the history from which to source and improve a potential future article on the topic. Jclemens (talk) 15:53, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Fair enough. Undetected the history. Courcelles (talk) 16:11, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. There's a 99% chance that no one ever will... but I think it sends the right message to allow for the possibility. Jclemens (talk) 19:57, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

I see something imploded at ANI

I reported a user at ANI before going to bed and woke up to find the entire thread had been memory holed. Out of morbid curiosity… what happened, without going into detail (obviously)? Dronebogus (talk) 22:04, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

It was removed in this edit. The user was blocked. Courcelles (talk) 22:14, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

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The bot does not require anything in particular for a section to be archived except that it's over 48h old.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:28, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry, I think I might have had the RFPP bot on the brain... Courcelles (talk) 13:36, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Help

No I agree and your right It is biased, can you help me wipe the matter of all personal details and Im happy to voluntarily delete, i'm not the right person to be making submissions as I am unbiased. Jadamondo (talk) 14:16, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

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Roxy the Dog

Given that WP:GENSEX is a Contentious Topic, and in light of this AE thread and their lenthy block log, don't you think a one-week regular admin action block may be insufficient? ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 15:35, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

I do, but I am a teacher, and my 2nd block went into chaos mode as I was working on ensuring all the alerts had been done! I'm about to do more now. Courcelles (talk) 15:52, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
@Maddy from Celeste:, now finished what I was trying to do before class went to noisy mode! Courcelles (talk) 16:18, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! Not to be too demanding but there seems to be a minor formatting mishap: You have been sanctioned Edit warring. The usage notes at wikt:transgendered may also be of interest for the future. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 16:48, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Fair enough, modified. Courcelles (talk) 17:03, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello. In the last two days, I've declined protecting this page twice at WP:RFPP/I as preemptive ( {{rfpp|np}} ) since I didn't see much if any disruption to warrant doing so. Now I've noticed you having done so (logged by Ymblanter for some reason), so I'm wandering how that came about; if there was admin shopping, etc. Thanks for taking the time. El_C 08:30, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Um, why would you decline it? Wikipedia:General sanctions/Russo-Ukrainian War is a blanket authorization for such protections, and we’ve never waited for disruption to spread from page to page when the 500/30 is authorized for the topic area and the page is so firmly within the topic that there are no edits a non extended confirmed editor could make without violating the sanctions. (Note the complete shield from edit warring granted by the community to editors who revert non-EC editors within the topic area). As a new article under such a sanctions regime, it should have been protected immediately to enforce the sanctions, and I’m really surprised you’d decline it twice. And, no, there was no admin shopping, I left a note directly on RFPP saying I was protecting the page. Courcelles (talk) 08:52, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
That is in fact not so. There has been a longstanding practice among admins, which I believe started with WP:ARBPIA3, to not preemptively protect pages even under such blanket restrictions. Only when disruption actually occurs do these normally come into effect. El_C 10:02, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
I was on arbcom during ARBPIA3, and was part of the discussions that led to that novel remedy being introduced, refined, and voted on, so suffice it to say we remember history and the intent of the regulation differently. In fact, the committee voted down the interpretation that it was a discretionary action to be used in response to disruption. Courcelles (talk) 12:24, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Maybe it was WP:ARBPIA4, then...? Anyway, there was a time period during 2017 (or 2018? or 2019?) when someone was requesting for a lot of ARBPIA pages to be protected preemptively by the tens (10 here, 20 there, etc.), which I did. I think I got to like 100 of em until there were objections to that blanket protection of pages that had zero disruptive edits. As I recall, we asked ArbCom and they said something to the effect of 'do whatever.'
A conversation then ensued at RfPP by several of its most active admins (I think Ymblanter participated, I definitely remember Lectonar did), which then resulted in a unanimous agreement to stop preemptively protecting those (well, unanimous except for me, I was neutral, I still am). And that has been the prevailing practice ever since. We both have protected a lot of pages, you +1K, me +10K, and are likely to continue doing so, so it'd be good if we could arrive at a consistent approach for these requests. El_C 13:16, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
I'd be ready to consider flooding RFPP with requests with no current disruption to be de facto disruption of the process, as basically [[pointy. But extending a sanction to a newly created article, I don't see a problem with getting in front of all the of the utter garbage edits that comes from this conflict, especially with that one being linked on the main page currently. (I guess my opinion on this is "if someone bothers to ask without flooding the process, I'll push the buttons to enforce the sanctions. No one else has to, and no one should flood RFPP without active disruption, but I read the 300/50 General Sanction as saying the default setting of these pages should be ECP.) Courcelles (talk) 13:55, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
I will quote from our protection policy:"Administrators are authorized to enforce this restriction through extended confirmed protection or any other means". So I still read the meaning as a may, not a must, even in ARBPIA cases. And I for one, having been around for a long time and being old-fashioned anyway, still like to see at least some kind of disruption before protecting a page. Protection still should be the exception, not the rule. Protection is such a crude tool, when blocks or partial blocks would suffice. As an addendum, I definitely know of at least 2 admins working at rfp who simply don't process ecp-protection requests anymore. If we really want all articles in contentious areas protected preemptively, then let's codify this unambiguously in some way. Lectonar (talk) 14:08, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
To be clear, to the best of my recollection, many of these were not necessarily benign ARBPIA pages, but rather, ones with a moderate to high potential for disruption—and now that Israel's far-right government seems intent to rescind the Gaza disengagement law, for example, I expect to see many of them needing to be 'legit' protected. The matter also arose of the two different types of preemptive protection requests: ones which had zero edits by unconfirmed accounts whatsoever -versus- those ones that did have edits by unconfirmed accounts but which were nevertheless uncontroversial (i.e. edits that otherwise would fall under WP:SILENCE)—not an easy feat for ARBPIA, but still, believe or not, there are in fact many such edits that neither side contest.
In any case, I personally have greatly decreased preemptive protections of any kind, save for the most potentially egregious cases. So for example, I believe I preemptively protected zero pages in 2022 and only one in 2021 (Jill Biden from none to indef semi as WP:AP2 upon Joe Biden assuming the presidency). Anyway, perhaps it's time to attempt to incorporate how to approach 500/30 mandates in the protection policy, especially since these are no longer limited to ARBPIA, but now also extend to other sanction regimes, such as the aforementioned WP:GS/RUSUKR, WP:APL50030, and possibly even more that I'm not immediately able to recall. El_C 19:29, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

So for example, you indef ECP'd the protection request for the List of equipment of the Russian Ground Forces under RUSUKR (diff), which I haven't looked at and may well be due due to accompanying moderate levels of RUSUKR-related disruption. But if not, contrast that with my declining the request by the same submitter for T-54/T-55 (diff), which I did not immediately see as having accompanying moderate levels of RUSUKR-related disruption—note that the #Russo-Ukrainian War section accounts for a tiny portion of the total text in the T-45/T-55 article. The point is that there's a growing risk that the submitter is getting mixed signals from the two of us. El_C 20:51, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, and the article about the tanks is really a Cold War article that extends into today by a small margin. That’s not something I’d protect under general sanctions, since there’s plenty of edits that can be made without coming anywhere near the current war. The list is different, though, the lede says it’s for current equipment used by a belligerent party in the current war, not for a complete historical list, or even, say, one since the establishment of the Russian Federation.
The core problem? We likely have two different interpretations of the sanctions regime, and no easy way to reconcile them. I read the sanctions as saying new editors may not touch the topic, and anyone can revert for any reason without worrying about edit warring. If that’s going to happen? Why let them waste time making the edit? If an admin wanted to go through whole categories and apply ECP, I think the sanctions authorized would support that action, (though it’s absolutely not something I want to spend my time doing evaluating hundreds of articles for how fully they are connected to topics new editors can’t touch.)
aAs to it being a may, not a must? Yeah, because we want humans to determine how much of the article would be unaffected by the sanctioned topic, and we can’t lay down commands on how human volunteers spend a limited resource we have — time of humans with a sysop flag. Courcelles (talk) 22:16, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
  • In a way I think we are on the same side, but with different conclusions; I am well aware that I would not need to fear repercussions either as an editor if I just reverted an edit in articles which fall under the sanctions, and also not as an admin if I ecp-protected articles which are in the same category. But I think assuming good faith with editors even here is not a waste of resources: once they have made a disruptive edit, then sanctions can be applied. It would be perhaps be a good move to bring this discussion and its underlying points of contention up somewhere. Lectonar (talk) 08:03, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
    I would never sanction the editor for making an edit unless it was, of course, a de facto disruptive edit or an edit warring issue. Folks don't know, after all. That's kind of why I like protecting, it saves newer editors the stress of making an edit and seeing it reverted for no reason they can easily understand other than it being made by the wrong person. Courcelles (talk) 18:31, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
Okay, that's good, I'm glad to learn that this latest example, at least, isn't a pressing issue. But the concern remains about ones that may still arise, and not just with you and me—I won't get into the nuances of #related content -versus- #primary articles for the time being.
But I'd stress that I am not necessarily in disagreement with your position. I still don't know if it's overall better or worse. When I said that "I was neutral, I still am," I truly meant it. After +10K protections and as one of the most active contributing admins, possibly the mostest, in both WP:RfPP and WP:AEL protections, I find that often the more I learn, the less I know.
My stance therefore only follows that aforementioned discussion, that is now likely over half a decade old, which as mentioned had unanimous agreement, and which from then on became the prevailing practice. Which is why I suggested something be codified once and for all, one way or the other, at protection policy. Which I realize is easier said than done, but I really can't think of anything else. But I'm definitely open to creative ideas! El_C 23:56, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

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Hello Courcelles, Back in 2011, you full protected the user talk page of User talk:KnowIG due to the user's actions. I see that their two archives were not protected, and did not experience any vandalism or issues in the years since. Do you have any objections to lowering the protection of User talk:KnowIG to extended confirmed (or lower) so that I could address the Tidy Font errors (a high priority WP:lint issue) in the signatures appearing on that page? Zinnober9 (talk) 20:18, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello. As I can see, you deleted this article due to a number of reasons. But somebody recreated it as Somkhishvili Tamaz with simple recombinated name and same text and sources. As I understand, this recreation violates wikipedia policy? Should this article be removed as well? Caramoble (talk) 08:10, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Might be right, might be wrong, but rather than pull another deletion rabbit out of my hat, I'm going to list it AFD. Courcelles (talk) 12:41, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

AE alteration needed

On the AE for me, HJ Mitchell made a comment "...Please refrain from making substantive edits to your comments once posted, and especially once replied to...." I contacted them and they had not actually seen me do that. They were just irritated that I had not made a comment all at once, but had added and revised it in several edits, but there were no intervening comments by anyone. Right now that stands as an accusation that readers will forever assume is a true accusation. I'd like that comment removed. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 03:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi

Hello I wanted to ask for your help, there is an admin he is misusing his privileges in a page for the city i was born. He is reverting my edits and blocking me for a period of time. The name of the page is "Podujevo" it is not the correct name and as well he is using his phone and created a 2nd account to make it look like i am (edit) warring and then comes with his main account and blocks me. What can i do ? Fa7bardh (talk) 19:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Likely you’d need to go to WP:ANI, I don’t look at WP much on the weekends. Courcelles (talk) 15:00, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

You protected this page in June 2012 following an oversight action. Do you believe that continued protection of the talk page is warranted? 67.180.143.89 (talk) 23:52, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

That was a pretty serious long term abuse. Can’t see any reason to unprotect this, even after a decade. Courcelles (talk) 15:02, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

User you blocked

Hi, Courcelles. POLNET55 isn't exactly an asset to Wikipedia, but my warning to them was quite recent, and they haven't edited since. Bishonen | tålk 20:19, 2 April 2023 (UTC).

Came there off an AIV report and I belatedly noticed that. My brain saw your block, and your warning, and just didn’t connect they had completely different timestamps… oops. Still, two harassment blocks in 70 edits tells me this is an editor we’re better off without. Courcelles (talk) 20:25, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Agreed. Bishonen | tålk 20:46, 2 April 2023 (UTC).

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See Wikipedia:Administrative action review#Review of concerning block. – Batreeq (Talk) (Contribs) 04:00, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Your block of 2620:9:6000:5800:cd16:ff13:a610:c63c

Just letting you know about the insult on their User Talk page.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 20:42, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Special:Contributions/2620:9:6000:5800:0:0:0:0/64 /64 reblocked] without talk page privileges. Courcelles (talk) 21:02, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

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Barnett effect ECP?

Hi Courcelles, hope all is well. Idly curious what I missed here with Barnett effect - I lifted a ten-year semi-protection which was a response to basic vandalism, but I think you have flagged as needing ECP? All the best, -- Euryalus (talk) 02:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

I was dealing with the linty old socks request above it and the script screwed up…. My protection log will show I didn’t actually touch that page.  ;) Courcelles (talk) 02:02, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
yeah I noticed that too. :) Curiosity was really if the old vandalism was linked to some sort of current LTA of which I was unaware. Glad it's not, and good luck with Linty's socks!-- Euryalus (talk) 02:05, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
I confess I don’t understand the lint thing, but Zinnober9 does, and we generate database reports for it, so it can’t hurt to fix. Not like sock puppet pages from 18 years ago actually need indef full protection… While I have your attention, what do you think about the deceased user pages? I know full is standard procedure, but ECP really seems like enough for those userpages of folks who didn’t attract much negative attention. Courcelles (talk) 02:11, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Seems reasonable, per application of the least possible protection to prevent disruption. Can't imagine why people would need to edit them but whatever. There's a couple I can think of that would be vandal targets and need to stay as they are, but this could easily be case by case. -- Euryalus (talk) 04:59, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Per your comment [[User:|Euryalus]] about negative attention - SlimVirgin (who I miss every day) received both negative and positive attention and I can well imagine someone gaming the system to get ECP and then messing with her page. If you are okay with leaving it at ECP I just hope that you will both have her page on your watchlist to rvt if anything should happen. Thanks for your time and I hope you both have a nice weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 19:38, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Oops messed up my ping Euryalus. Apologies. MarnetteD|Talk 19:39, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
SV is the one I absolutely will not be leaving at ECP… Courcelles (talk) 19:41, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Yep agree with that. Also Kevin Gorman. And @MarnetteD: you have a great weekend too. -- Euryalus (talk) 20:06, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

RPPD information

Hello, I have a question about two types of pages I'm considering asking for a protection reduction on, and since you've handled some of my recent requests, felt you were a good person to ask. This is not a formal request, only information gathering, I'd make the formal request at RPPD if these are acceptable and noncontroversial sorts of requests.

For user pages/subpages of deceased Wikipedians that have been full protected, are these valid for temporary page protection reductions to address lint errors?

My other question is for user pages of long blocked, long dormant, socks (ten+ years with no known activity). In general, should these remain at full protection indefinitely, or is a reduction acceptable for addressing the lint acceptable, either reduced temporarily or indefinite?

In each case I'm eying about 11 pages, so not a large quantity in either case. I'd make two separate requests if these are valid due to their nature.

Thank you for your insight, Zinnober9 (talk) 20:30, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

  • For both of those categories, assuming they aren't recent protections, I'd likely be willing to drop them to extended confirmed (subject to changing my mind when I see the actual pages, of course.) Full protection in this kind of situation is a bit of a hack from before EC was available, and while it stopped nonsense, it cut off uncontroversial maintenance of the sort you are doing. Courcelles (talk) 20:51, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
    Of course. I was just seeking the general impression of these sorts of requests. For the sock pages, most recent protection was 2006, so those probably will be fine. I'll formally post that request at RPPD in a minute.
    For the deceased, I was looking at these eleven pages:
    2022 (1): Levent
    2021 (5): Aditya Kabir/Page content, Patrick Rogel, JGHowes, SlimVirgin
    2020 (3): Aditya Kabir, Ron/admin, Ron/Toolbox
    earlier (3): Bhadani (2018), Sanko (2012), Ron/Editnotice (2011)
    If any are too recent to make a request for, that's perfectly fine.
    Zinnober9 (talk) 00:42, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
    I’ll drop all these to EC momentarily, but let me know when you are done, so I can revert myself? Courcelles (talk) 01:56, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
    Don’t feel like you have to rush, given I don’t speak HTML I’m not sure how involved fixing this is on each page. But, yeah, at least some of these I will be going back to full when you’re done. Courcelles (talk) 02:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
    I should have these all done in next 24hrs, but yes, I will message you when I've completed them all. Thank you for your assistance! Zinnober9 (talk) 05:14, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
    @Courcelles All complete with these pages, you may protect them back up. Thank you for your help! I'm a little embarrassed that I didn't spot that the issues on Aditya Kabir and Ron/admin were transcribed from other pages, so ended up not needing to change anything on these two after all, but all others went as expected. Zinnober9 (talk) 01:30, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
    No worries. I’ve moved SlimVirgin’s user page back to full, but the others I am somewhat inclined to see full as overkill. Courcelles (talk) 01:58, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

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