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69-Rene-69

Dear Citobun, thanks for your reminding. Sorry but I did clarifiy my reason with evidence each time. Thus I'm confident with the info I protected. I noticed that you've had an "edit war" on this part with other editors before but never show any concrete reason for your deleting since long ago. I'm happy to discuss if you could provide your evidence for deleting, otherwise please don't delete based on some subjective idea. Many thanks. FYI the evidence example CCTV's acknowlegde and broadcast in the link.

Reminder

Please help with the request put in on 26 July 2017 COI. thank you. Whywhy99 (talk) 03:04, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Josephshlee

Dear Citobun, Thank you for your continuous support to edit in Wikipedia. Regarding edits to Pacific Place, I truly know that you value conciseness a lot and don't want to overload the page. However, I think that storing more details of the nature of the offices for reference purposes of users would cause no harm. If you wish to delete these information, would it be a good idea for us to make a page with a list of all these tenants and data that you consider not concise to the page for users to click and be redirected to? I look forward to your reply. Thanks.Josephshlee (talk) 02:05, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Award Section

The Awards section can't be added to corporate pages because they are part of the corporate promotions, so we can't mention any type of awards?

I have spend time and effort to update the page and I really think the awards section would tell something about the company achievement and not all awards are lack of its credibility.

Wish to get your detail explanation on my update asap !!

Thanks !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ANBEE2011 (talk • contribs) 07:43, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of TrakInvest

Hi Citobun, I fully understand and respect the decision but wish to rewrite the page. Can I rewrite the page with the same title again, ensuring adherence to the rules and verifiable links? I understand now that the links might not have been completely third party statements, and that the text content I used to describe seemed promotional to you. Thanks, Anilp78 (talk) 08:29, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

COI

Hi Citobun, Thank you for your comment on one of the pages I edited recently - Aedas. This is the first time I tried my hand in making major change to a page for fun, while previously I mostly made small edits on other pages. I must say that I am only a person who interested in architecture and arts. I do not have CIO. I have read thru Help:Maintenance template removal and WP:NPOV carefully and after revisiting the page, I think the use of words is neutral and fair and there are references to support the facts. Can you please advice what can be done better? Or would you agree to take out the COI? Thank you. Whywhy99 (talk) 01:47, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

neutral point of view

Hi Citobun,

It is Pfhj. I was noticed that the page of Sun Hung Kai Properties as not neutral after I edited the content. As I am a starter on editing wikipedia page, may I ask you giving some advices on improving it or change it? Look forward to hearing from you.

Many thanks in advance Pfhj (talk) 09:50, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Qianhai

Hi Citobun! It's Cli2014 Thank you for your continuous efforts to improve the reliability of the page, even down to details of the pictures. I am new to Wikipedia, so there are many rules that I am unfamiliar with. Again, I greatly appreciate your efforts in helping to edit out the inaccuracies. However, I'd like to say that I have not "vanished" from Wikipedia. I have been busy for the past few weeks, and will continue to contribute to China related articles in the future. I am sorry if my brief spell of inactivity has caused concern.

Cli2014 (talk) 18:30, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Central Nova Scotia Correctional Facility

Hey Citobun. I don't have an account, but you removed an edit I made on a Central Nova Scotia Correctional Facility page with instructions to contact you here if I believe you made a mistake. I do believe you made a mistake by removing my edits as they are a direct source as I worked there for many years. Not sure how to cite firsthand knowledge since it's not linkable on the internet so there wasn't a way I could see to let anyone KNOW it was just direct knowledge. I tried to update it so that people would have correct information. If you could assist in the correction or how I should reference experience it would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.149.111 (talk) 12:39, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

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Wright Avenue (Halifax)

There is an allegation that this street is notable, because it is served by mass transit. Bearian (talk) 15:54, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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	Let it be said that your contributions in taking photos of Hong Kong, especially during the more violent days of the 2014 Hong Kong protests, have not gone unnoticed. You deserve this, stay safe. =) _dk (talk) 11:20, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

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I don't speak French so I didn't know Saturn star (talk) 04:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Halifax Merger

Nice job on the merger. Thanks for doing this. Regards,  Aloha27  talk  16:17, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Cheers Aloha27! Will give the merged content some more copyediting soon. Citobun (talk) 13:29, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Hong Kong

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I am not harassing you. I have not interacted with you in months. By frivolously accusing me of harassing you, you are (as usual) attempting to draw attention away from the real, content-related issue: using Wikipedia to advance your political views. Citobun (talk) 08:45, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

The end of the ridiculous General Service Area article and links

Hey hey! I've asked a "help me" question on my talk page about whether the GSA links [[1]] have to be manually reverted to village, town or city designation or whether an automated entity can do that. Now that the GSAs have been sent to the elite ranks of the non-participants, perhaps we can move on with normalcy in this Province. I edited "Abercrombie" already. Hopefully each and every one of the nearly 1,600 articles linked to that page can be autocorrected. I'll let you know how that turns out. Regards,  Aloha27  talk  09:53, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

@Aloha27: Nice job! I see many of the articles have been delinked. I was away so I didn't see your AfD nor the sockpuppet investigation, and both were a nice surprise. We should keep an eye out in case Matthvm comes back. The Halifax articles have been coming together nicely lately, with the long-overdue simplification of the names, article mergers, etc. Now we can focus on content rather than the inane nuances of municipal terminology. Citobun (talk) 10:21, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

@Primefac: got it done quickly, I don't know how but it saved a bunch of manual edits for sure. I'll keep an eye out for our favourite sock as well. Regards,  Aloha27  talk  10:54, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

We could have a winner here. B3khrm appears to be a brand new account and has an interest in the Halifax page. Has already been reverted once by Cmr08. We shall see. Regards,  Aloha27  talk  18:03, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Hong Kong reform plan

Now that the story wasn't posted to ITN and that the nomination is archived, who or what do you think prompted administrators into not posting it ever? --George Ho (talk) 00:45, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:32, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

You don't need to say it twice.

Removed your reply since you duplicated the same off-topic message. Jeandeve (talk) 07:29, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Don't remove other people's messages on talk pages please. Citobun (talk) 07:33, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I will, since 1: your message was duplicated, which could be seen like spam, and 2: your message is off-topic. Jeandeve (talk) 07:39, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

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Gate Tower Building

Hello Citobun. You removed information stating that the Gate Tower Building is nicknamed the beehive -- and said that it is a dubious claim. When I Googled Gate Tower Building beehive I found numerous websites with the same information, and a number of those posts pre-date the inclusion of the information in Wikipedia. I'd be interested in your thoughts on this. Etamni | ✉ | ✓  07:22, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Etamni – I didn't understand rationale behind the "bustling place" thing and the cited source looked like a spam website with very poor quality writing. In other words, not a reliable source. I don't mind if the nickname is added again but I don't think that source should be used. Kind regards, Citobun (talk) 08:22, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

After reviewing the source, I believe it is a blog site. I'll look over the search results and find something more credible. Etamni | ✉ | ✓  08:59, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hi

Can you help by creating more seasons and improving Hong Kong Football ? [2] Also to create some teams. Thank you !--Alexiulian25 (talk) 07:15, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

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University of Hong Kong pro-vice-chancellor selection controversy

I tried finding "controversy" in The Guardian and Reuters. I found "controversial" in former but not the latter. Neither WSJ nor New York Times nor Time mentions "controversy", but Asia One, SCMP, and BBC do. Is this really a "controversy"? --George Ho (talk) 04:48, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi George Ho. I am not against changing the title if there is a more appropriate word but I don't see what's wrong with "controversy". The affair meets the definition of "controversy" as "a prolonged public dispute, debate, or contention". I don't think the word "incident" is very appropriate because this is a prolonged happening, not a singular event. Citobun (talk) 14:56, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

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Japan Times

Hello Citobun, i don't know whether i should write here or not. Anyway, you recently deleted a contribution i have made, stating there were no references. I have put the references right there on the contribution i have made. Can you please explain me why you deleted it? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torriattetorriatte (talk • contribs) 06:55, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

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Gary Ng

I saw you placed Notability and Deletion tag on the article. It appears you have not gone through the references! If a detailed coverage in Daily Telegraph and BBC doesn't establishes Notability I don't know what else does. Anyway if you still have "issues" with the content discuss it on talk-page, Reinstating those tags will force me to consult an admin and ask him whether or not the article is Notable or not. Good luck. Jonathanbrune (talk) 09:51, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I have sent it to AfD; please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gary Ng. Citobun (talk) 10:12, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for University of Hong Kong pro-vice-chancellor selection controversy

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Eric Edmeades

You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:15, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

List of metro systems

Citobun, that was a super cute edit summary you left on your reversion over there – say, why don't you read through the Talk archives of that article, and then get back to me about who's upholding "consensus" at the article, hmmm?... Cheers. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:26, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

IJBall, I recall your coming up with a “compromise” to include both flags. What happened to that? There was never any consensus to the way you have it now because people have continually challenged it. But you hawk over those articles like you own them and other people simply get exhausted. Citobun (talk) 18:12, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

IIRC, that was a compromise crafted with someone who turned out to be a sock. After that was revealed, other editors reverted that and returned to the previous consensus on the grounds of WP:DENY. Believe me, if there was any consensus to leave the HK flag in, I wouldn't keep reverting – but the consensus for years has been to leave things the way they are now. It's not just me... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:18, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

(Pinging IJBall) I think you were speaking to me when you suggested that compromise, although there were other users present who may have been socks. I think it was a good compromise that balances the fact that HK is a part of China, with the reality of one country, two systems and the fact that a direct comparison between HK and mainland metro cities may not be so simple or relevant given the different contexts. And as I said in that discussion, originally whichever article we were speaking about referred to Hong Kong simply as "Hong Kong", in line with practice for 99% of the ~12,000 articles assessed under WikiProject Hong Kong. It was changed at some point and that's when the back-and-forth began. I am not going to revert it again, but the fact that other people continually are means you simply don't have consensus. To treat Hong Kong in this context as an average Mainland Chinese city is out of line with international practice and the vast majority of other pages on Wikipedia, and I also believe excessively pedantic. Citobun (talk) 10:01, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

My advice? Try opening another discussion at Talk:List of metro systems, in regards to this compromise for Hong Kong (and Puerto Rico). I doubt I'll comment myself (I'm pretty tired of this discussion), but you really need to get the other editors at List of metro systems to sign off on this compromise anyway... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Editing a Page

Hi Citobun, I do not have a financial stake in promoting the page. It's a topic of interest to me, but as I'm sure you can tell, this is my first time creating a Wikipedia article, I updated the content, but wasn't sure how to best tailor it according to some of the comments. I'll try to make some of the changes you've suggested and you can please let me know if its ok. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linc22shan (talk • contribs) 21:21, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you for defending me and your compliments. I really appreciate that.Lmmnhn (talk) 17:44, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

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Conflict of interest corrections

Hi Citobun,

It is cassimomusic2. Thank you for your email, I made few corrections to make the page as neutral possible, giving people informations they need, without conflict of interest. Let me know if it looks better for you and how I could improve it or change it if needed.

Many thanks in advance Cassimomusic2 (talk) 16:32, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Citobun, just so you know, you've been granted Autopatrolled status (see: here) after SSTflyer nominated you for that at WP:PERM. Just so you know. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:42, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

IJBall, thank you for the notice, and SSTflyer thank you for taking the time to do that. Citobun (talk) 02:18, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Trisha Louis

Sorry, but I've declined your A11. A11 shouldn't be used on people. It's for things like new words (''widely used' - by half a class at one school), games (similar), and other stuff (including drinking games like Vodka Pong, a more lethal version of Beer Pong) that could be real (probably aren't - but AGF) but totally non-notable. People can be real (A7), fictional (prod or AfD), or not real (in which case they are hoax (G3)). A11 assumes good faith - it could be real. With a person, if they're not real or fictional (which includes mythological and legendary beings and many saints and gods), they are an attempt to misinform. Which is hoax/vandalism G3). A11 usually carries the hallmarks of bored or drunk student, or kid trying to be clever in front of mates. I'm not saying the subject of this article is ready for an article yet, by the way. Just that A11 isn't right. Peridon (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Southern Playground

Hi,

Thanks for your message on 'Southern Playground'. The name in the official wiki page is spelled incorrectly as "Southorn". I corrected the error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.246.168.234 (talk) 12:50, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Irina Mirochnik

Hi Citobun. Thank you for your notice, but I haven't an external relationship with mrs. Mirochnik. I realize why you think so, some phrases have been deleted already, and furthermore you have the right to delete article entirely. But I ask do not delete my first article - I'm just trying to get started somewhere. --Dr.PepperOrange (talk) 17:54, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Vasand Thari

I just wanted to let you know that even though I agree with you that Vasand Thari is speediable as written, I've actually declined your speedy listing and taken it to AFD instead — what you caught is actually the third time the article's been recreated, after having already been speedied twice in just ten days for the same reason you identified. So I felt that it should go to AFD instead, because that way we'll have extra tools at our disposal to make it much harder for them to recreate it again a fourth time. Thanks for being conscientious about it, though — you weren't wrong at all, we just have to escalate it to a higher level because the creator keeps trying to recreate it again. Bearcat (talk) 22:29, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Citobun (talk) 18:08, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Please stop attacking other editors with "censorship by long-term agenda editor"

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make personal attacks on other people, as you did at 2016 Mong Kok civil unrest. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. STSC (talk) 06:25, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Ten Years (film)

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Article

Dear Citobun, thank you for your help. I sent you an e-mail explaining why i decided to create this article. If you think it should not be here after my explanation i will delete it.

Thank you. Sincerely Giorgi

--Giorgi55555 (talk) 20:39, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Article For Deletion

I believe this article Dominic Khoo should be deleted. His page reads like an autobiography and he is not notable. 180.255.248.100 (talk) 10:35, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Your recent edit to CY Leung

I think you're a spoilsport for this. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 11:22, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Halifax is a City

Halifax is not a FORMER CITY please move this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Halifax_%28former_city%29 to History_of_Halifax — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.90.91.144 (talk) 00:29, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

That article is about the former city of Halifax, not the present-day regional municipality known as "Halifax". It has been like this on Wikipedia for some time and I don't believe removing all instances of "former" on Wikipedia will rectify the Facebook issue, which is quite recent. Citobun (talk) 02:33, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

1. The municipality is called "Halifax Regional Municipality" see halifax.ca 2. One again Halifax is still a city. The "Former City" addition is confusing. Locally, Halifax is not referred to Halifax the former city. Areas like Bedford are known as Bedford. There is hundreds of towns that are in the region but they all did not just up and all 3. If this wiki article was source of the former city issue on facebook the delay would be due to it takes time for databases to be populated. It will also likely dirty other databases that rely on wikipedia. The article is incorrectly named. 4. Repeating again, the article is incorrectly named. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.90.91.144 (talk) 20:58, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

The article is about the history of the former city of Halifax, which was merged with surrounding municipalities in 1996. We have discussed this a long time on Wikipedia. The article called "History of Halifax (former city)" was once called "Halifax (former city)" while the article called "Halifax, Nova Scotia" was once called "Halifax Regional Municipality". The former was merged with the article titled "History of Halifax" because they essentially referred to the same thing and created maintenance and duplication problems. The latter article was changed to reflect WP:COMMONNAME. The full discussion and explanation of the merger of the history pages can be seen here. The current setup is much less confusing than the way it was previously, is much easier to maintain, and eliminates duplicated efforts/redundancies. Citobun (talk) 06:47, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

As a resident and other residents of the City of Halifax, having a page calling Halifax a former city is an absolute ridiculous concept. Based on the history it looks like you as a Toronto resident have overridden the input from Halifax residents who live there and use the city name for what it is. As non residents deciding what to name the city it is well just unbelievable. The discussion needs to happen with people who are familiar with the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.90.91.144 (talk) 18:53, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Well we had the discussion – you were free to chime in then and likewise you are free to post on the relevant article talk page now. You still don't understand the issue though. We once had articles called "Halifax (former city)" (about the City of Halifax that was amalgamated in 1996) and another called "History of Halifax". They basically overlapped in scope, creating a maintenance headache, so they were merged into the current article called "History of Halifax (former city)". The trouble with renaming it "History of Halifax" would be that the scope of present-day "Halifax" overlaps with the history of Dartmouth, history of Bedford, history of Halifax County, etc. So you'd have redundancy among different articles. The name of "History of Halifax (former city)" isn't wrong - it refers to the history of the City of Halifax up to 1996. If you have a better solution that doesn't lead to duplicated efforts among different articles, please suggest it on the article talk page. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort and I fail to see where I have "overrode" anyone. Citobun (talk) 02:30, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Citobun is absolutely correct here. Since amalgamation took place in 1996, there are NO cities in Nova Scotia now at all. With a stroke of a pen Halifax and Industrial Cape Breton became "Regional Municipalities". Hope this clears things up for you sufficiently. Regards,   Aloha27  talk  07:24, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps I am reading the history wrong but the user WayeMason thought that the "former city" should be merged into the History of Halifax. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:History_of_Halifax_%28former_city%29#Merger_proposal Perhaps you should give a call to a few hundred local businesses and local residents and ask if Halifax is a city. I'd am very doubtful many would consider Halifax a former city, legally considered part of a municipality or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.90.91.144 (talk) 18:57, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

See your talk page. Regards,   Aloha27  talk  19:49, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Tiananmen Square

Hello, I noticed that you reverted the edits over at "Tiananmen" with the note that they were too "euphemistic" - could you please describe what you mean by this, and specifically which passages you are referring to? Recognizing that this is a fairly contentious topic I worded things in the most neutral manner possible. I understand that my revision is not perfect, perhaps not even great, but it is, in my view, a great deal better than the existing revision in terms of explaining the event to the average reader. If you are open to it, I would like to hear your feedback and then make another revision to see if we can reach consensus on this matter. Looking forward to hearing from you. Colipon+(Talk) 02:35, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Amoycan Industrial Centre fire for deletion

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Three Garden Road, Central

Dear Citobun

Thanks for your review. Could you please rename the article "Three Garden Road" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Garden_Road) to "Three Garden Road, Central", which is its official name. If possible, could you also redirect "Three Garden Road, Central" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Garden_Road,_Central) to the previous page once you correct its name.

We really appreciate your help and please help us as soon as possible as the building is renamed today and we need to get its name right on Wikipedia.

Best regards, Kyla — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylayao (talk • contribs) 02:07, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Three Garden Road, Central

Dear Citobun, Thanks a lot for your message.

My client's building in HK, "Citibank Plaza" will be change its name on June 28, 2016 officially to "THREE GARDEN ROAD, CENTRAL". At the same time, the building"Citibank Tower" will chang its name to "Champion Tower".

Therefore we are trying to updated its "Citibank Plaza" page to "THREE GARDEN ROAD, CENTRAL"

For the current page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Garden_Road , the name in the heading displayed is "THREE GARDEN ROAD", but we would like to have it edited as "THREE GARDEN ROAD, CENTRAL" - which is the correct full name of the building. As me and my teammate, Kyla, who is also trying to correct the heading of the page, found that we both have no access right to update it. Grateful for your soonest response!!

For your information, here is the "THREE GARDEN ROAD, CENTRAL"'s website: http://threegardenroad.com/en/

In addition, thanks for helping to remove the "THREE GARDEN ROAD, CENTRAL" page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Three_Garden_Road,_Central&redirect=no — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelok.li (talk • contribs) 02:35, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Dear Citobun,

Noted what you have just posted on my talk page. As "Three Garden Road, Central" page was deleted by the admin. Can you help to change the name of current page Three Garden Road (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Garden_Road) to its official name "THREE GARDEN ROAD, CENTRAL"?

Noted you have said our post is quite PR, could we add more factual things, such as history of the property. We would try our best to ally with Wiki's rules! Thanks for your review. Looking forward to your reply soon as you already know that the property is renamed today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylayao (talk • contribs) 03:59, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Dear Citobun,

Would you please advise me when the name could be changed, within couple of hours? Thx! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylayao (talk • contribs) 04:15, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Dear Citobun,

Just to clarify, it is NOT you who help us redirect Citibank plaza page to Three Garden Road (current page), and also it is NOT you delete our other page (Three Garden Road, Central)? If this is the case, could you share this admin person's contact? We could directly contact him/her to fast proceed the rename case...Looking forward to your reply.

Separately, we also want to add more photos, is it difficult to upload photos to the page?

Dear Citobun,

In the page on Permanent Court of Arbitration, the Reference 4 states that the "UN microblog says that PCA has nothing to do with ICJ", but this Sina microblog account is not an official account held by the UN, and has been clarified throughout the media. It is Chinese Communist Party who controlled the media to quote this misleading status on the "UN" microblog. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.152.208.152 (talk) 08:40, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

BR, Kyla — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylayao (talk • contribs) 04:34, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

A reminder

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Sinophobia

Three editors have disapproved the inclusion of "Hong Kong"[3]. STSC (talk) 04:38, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
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Nomination for merging of Template:HKPublicHousing

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2015 Tianjin Explosions

Hi Citobun, As I have seen that you continuously reverted my edit to wikipedia, I would like to bring your serious attention to this issue here. You seem to live in HK SAR, which is thousands of miles away from Tianjin, where the explosions took place. I, as a native of PRC, wish to inform you that indeed I have come to know more particulars about the explosions. Please refrain from reverting my edit; otherwise, this is a clear violation of presenting accurate information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 43.250.9.49 (talk) 14:19, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

@43.250.9.49: So please provide a reliable source as required by Wikipedia policy. Citobun (talk) 14:20, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Sunny Bay Station

Could you elaborate more on your opinion that my edit was not really an improvement?

In particular, according to the station map provided by MTR, there is no "L1" level; the station and the concourse is simply on the same level. I compared with Tsuen Wan Station's wiki page before I removed the "L1" level and merged it with "G". What was your reason of reverting that section back?

The original document was not entirely accurate in assuming that Sunny Bay was chosen over Yam O due to its ominous connotations. I do not disagree with the position, but there should be references showing that was indeed the reason of the change in the naming of the station.

And regarding the original (and current) paragraph: The station was the first MTR station to have automatic platform gates (APG) installed on the edge of its platforms. These gates range from 1⁄2 to 3⁄4 the height of the platform screen doors found in other MTR stations. In line with ground level and above-ground MTR stations, Sunny Bay and Disneyland Resort Station are not air conditioned, and rely on their open architecture to keep the temperature low.

I objected to the phrase "platform screen doors found in other MTR stations" since the gates are also low in height in the overground stations, such as Kwai Fong and Kowloon Bay. Those found at Sunny Bay are definitely NOT 1/2 to 3/4 of the height of the gates at Kwai Fong and Kowloon Bay, but rather 1/2 to 3/4 of the height of those at underground stations. Why did you not consider this aspect to be an improvement to the original document?

As this article is about Sunny Bay, I see no particular reason of including Disneyland station in the discussion about air-conditioning. The open architecture does not "keep the temperature low" but any means; the only aspect that helps with temperature control is the overhead shades/structure, which prevents sunlight from getting directly onto the platform. Thus, I changed the article to use a more neutral statement indicating that the station relies on natural ventilation. Again, could you explain how this was not a fair improvement over the original article?

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DYK for Lau Siu-lai

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Robiaid and qposter

I have to admit, I don't get it. Is it not a reliable source? It's apparently never been brought up on RSN before. I'd be careful about accusing other users of vandalism and NOTHERE just because heir editing interests are really boring and the citations they are adding don't look like reliable sources (even though the sources appear to be accurate for the material being attributed to them; if not, the Wikipedia information needs to be changed). Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 22:55, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Hijiri 88. No, it is not a reliable source. What kind of IELTS learning website has pages of country telephone codes? These pages are purpose-built so the user can add links to Wikipedia and hopefully drive traffic to the rest of his website. The user also created the deleted page Qposter, which highly suggests an undeclared conflict of interest considering the website is an obscure blog with no coverage in reliable secondary sources, as required by Wikipedia policy. Furthermore the area code sub-pages were, according to the Internet Archive, only created a short time ago, further suggesting their purpose is for SEO through Wikipedia. Lastly this blog has a TON of posts on how to do SEO for your blog - including one post that suggests "try to create a Wikipedia page for you or for your blog"!

Sorry, but Wikipedia is seriously drowning in spam and I don't have the time nor the will to pussyfoot around an obvious spammer. Kind regards, Citobun (talk) 11:29, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Shit. That's some good detective work. My bad. Cheers! Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:34, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

@Hijiri88: No worries – I should have explained on his talk page for the benefit of others! Citobun (talk) 11:43, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Xia Lin

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You are getting it wrong.

Hello Citobun, You are really getting it wrong by saying, am a conflict of interest. You brought a topic on my talk page regarding conflict of interest. I appreciate that, I write articles based on my knowledge and history research. I am not only interested in music but also in Africa culture as an Africa citizen. You can fix an article if it turns to be a promotional tone, Not calling a Wikipedian a COI when wrong.--Jamzy4 (talk) 14:58, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi User:Jamzy4. What is the explanation for all the self-authored photos of these artists? Citobun (talk) 15:03, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Nice question. The subject article of the photos are founded on the internet. I did not claim i owned the photo because i found them on the internet but am the one who uploaded them because their are related to the subject article. I hope you understand me, I love research and history as i said. I make my research on Google towards the subject article on wikipedia. I was surprised seeing the message on my talk page about COI. I hope you understand me clearly. You can fix an article if it turns to a promotional tunes with a leave summary. Thanks, I appreciate your concern. Waiting for your response.--Jamzy4 (talk) 17:02, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

@Jamzy4:, I can see you've nominated some of Citobun's articles for deletion while citing shallow reasons. This is a case of WP:BADFAITH. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 21:24, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks a lot for all administrator — Preceding unsigned comment added by Altafprog (talk • contribs) 13:32, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

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I don't know how to message you on Wikipedia, but thanks for your note on the Braemar Hill murders. You're welcome! PumpkinKitten (talk) 03:54, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

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New Page Review - newsletter #2

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Declined speedy deletion nomination of Samuel Chan Sze Ming

Hello Citobun. Speedy deletion work is important and I do appreciate the effort. I would just ask that you please review the criteria carefully because accuracy is also important. On that issue, I have declined your speedy deletion nomination of Samuel Chan Sze Ming as an article that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the topic under CSD A7. That criterion did not apply because writing for multiple newspapers/journals is a credible indication of "importance or significance". Remember that CSD A7 is a lower standard than what is required to demonstrate notability – it does not, for example, require that the article's text already contain citations to reliable sources that would be necessary to prove notability, but only that it contain a claim that, were it true, might reasonably make the subject a valid encyclopaedia topic (if proper sourcing could later be found). Adam9007 (talk) 22:17, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

HRM stuff

Hello! I did an edit and organization of Halifax related pages and templates. A fresh set of eyes would be useful but no rush. Halifax Transit got an especially deep clean. The HT logo shouldn't be on the commons and I am not sure how to tag it for deletion, it should just be on wikipedia I think (fair use, not free). The pages linked off of the top 2 sections of and the HRSB article got some editing (the template got a lot too!) Template:Halifax,_Nova_Scotia Thanks! WayeMason (talk) 13:31, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your hard work over the holiday WayeMason. I'll check it out and also fix the HT logo situation. I am hoping to do more improvement on HRM-related pages in 2017 myself. Regards, Citobun (talk) 07:20, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Response to unfair accusations

Hi Citobun, thanks for your kindly reminder and I appreciate your effort on checking the pages. However, it's really rude and unfair when you accuse that somebody paid me to edit wikipedia again and again with no evidence. I don't have any relationship with both the company and the person of the pages I edited. Please stop the unfair accusations, thank you!––Jefferynghk (talk) 04:30, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page. Citobun (talk) 04:39, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Raymond Chan Chi-chuen#Name in infobox

I started an RFC at Talk:Raymond Chan Chi-chuen#Name in infobox. I invite you to improve consensus. --George Ho (talk) 10:36, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Chinese names in articles

Part of the reason why I had "citation overkill" is based on the model at the Kweilin incident: foreigners don't know how to pronounce these names in either Putonghua nor Cantonese. It's unobtrusive to show the pronounciation as a footnote in the article.

While some readers don't care about these kinds of things, the Sinologists and people interested in Hong Kong and Greater China do care, and so these footnotes are a service to them.

I strongly feel that at minimum the Traditional Chinese characters of her name need to be kept, or else an English speaker who is learning Chinese/trying to find Chinese sources will not know how to search for Chinese-language documents with her name in it. WhisperToMe (talk) 12:13, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi @WhisperToMe:, that's understandable. I just find having all the transliterations for subjects peripheral to the article's main subject unnecessarily cluttering, and constitutes undue focus on one noun among many. I agree that having the Chinese characters is sensible though, my apologies for removing them. Citobun (talk) 14:15, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

No worries! It is true that one may need to balance whether the subject is related enough to focus on their name. What I had in mind was that all terminology/personal names without their own Wikipedia articles would be footnoted like that w/ Chinese characters with Cantonese and Putonghua noted. It's also why I noted Chinese names in MH17 (for the Malaysian Chinese pilot) and in the Boston bombing (for the Mainland Chinese victim). A discussion of who/what needs to be noted like that could be a good discussion on the article talk page; AFAIK it's an article-by-article decision. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:16, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Articles for deletion: Amber Atherton

hi Citobun, thanks for taking the time to review this article! I see your proposed reason for deletion is "Self-promotional article". I did the bulk of the editing and re-writing of the original to try and ensure it was an informative article and not merely some type of publicity. The subject does have a degree of notability and "wiki" is often the top search after her name on google, hence the article creation.

I have come across several articles that have made me question why they were approved and this one is being question. Some examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doina_Ciobanu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Matthews

And some that are clearly just stubs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Thompson_(TV_personality)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberley_Garner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark-Francis_Vandelli

If you have any advice on how to improve the article I would be most grateful. Many thanks!

Sierpinski6 (talk) 16:08, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.2

Hello Citobun,

A HUGE backlog

We now have 804 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

Hitting 17,000 soon

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.

Abuse

This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
2. this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election

Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.

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Removing the TAGS from the top of article (Regarding Page: Elliott Moglica)

Dear Wikipedia Friend (Citobun), I'm from the UK, studying in Canada. I have noticed that someone just keeps adding tags at the top of the page. I think we need to remove the TAGS from the top of this page -- since the article has so many reliable sources. I think the article has improved. Feel free to improve it further -- so we can remove the TAGS from this. Many thanks. Kindest regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hot British (talk • contribs) 17:05, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello Wiki, I think we should remove the tags too. Very disturbing at the top of the article. Let me know what you think. 65.93.215.120 (talk) 19:23, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

SHKP - neutral point of view

Hi Citobun,   Regarding your recent edit on Sun Hung Kai Properties page, please could you explain the rationale in recalling the previous edit which removed the non-neutral, outdated news? The content I have removed a year ago was written in a way which was skewered towards portraying SHKP in a negative light and did not neutrally and fairly represent SHKP, and most of all, it did not mention the Group’s response to the allegations (WP:IMPARTIAL) which properly clarified the allegations as incorrect. In addition, in restoring that biased content, you have the responsibility of verifying the claims (WP:PROVEIT). The current source leads to nowhere.  If you fail to respond, I will consider your having failed to provide citation for the content you restored and we would remove the content once again.

Legsun999 (talk) 09:51, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Legsun999:. Please be advised that undisclosed conflict of interest editing is prohibited by Wikimedia Foundation terms of service. Please review WP:COI. Please also be advised that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia – not a means of promotion or a vehicle for corporate public relations. You have blanked content referenced to reliable sources for no other reason than it reflects badly upon your employer or client – that is not the meaning of editorial "neutrality". Citobun (talk) 13:31, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Stephen McNeil reverts

Hi Citobun, looks like the vandalism you reverted on the Stephen McNeil article has made the news in Nova Scotia.[4] Cmr08 (talk) 00:28, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks User:Cmr08. That's funny, but I don't think Wiki vandalism is very newsworthy. Worth noting that the Herald is currently staffed by strikebreakers (note the lack of a byline) so it's possible they were the vandals. Citobun (talk) 14:38, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Regarding "The" in front of CUHK

Hi Citobun,

Thanks for your response.

I looked into South China Morning Post. SCMP does not display consistency among its articles, just to illustrate some examples:

• Chaos and violence during Chinese University of Hong Kong’s council meeting
• Wan Qingli, Hong Kong artist and art historian, mourned by city’s art community following his death aged 72 in Florida

Then the argument of what a journalism preferred usage to re-define the canonical name of a proper entity is not a stringent one. A press may rename or use a shortened name but not an officially endorsed name for purposes such as space concerns.

To borrow your argument, the term "Chinese University", which is even shorter, appears in some of SCMP's articles as well. Presumably for purposes not to be caught in clumsy repetitions. Arguably if SCMP or similarly more representative press use that naming convention "Chinese University" often enough (more than, arbitrarily saying, a dozen times in an article), then "The Chinese University of Hong Kong" could also be conventionally shortened to "Chinese University", leading to your argument that "Chinese University" is more preferred than "The Chinese University of Hong Kong" or "Chinese University of Hong Kong".

Examples can be seen here of "Chinese University":

• Chaos and violence during Chinese University of Hong Kong’s council meeting, please take a look at the first paragraph.
• Hong Kong independence activists elected to head Chinese University’s student union, please take a look at the headline and search in the first and subsequent paragraphs.

The usage of a non-canonical name ("Chinese University of Hong Kong", "the Chinese University of Hong Kong", "Chinese University") in the articles including Wikpedia is a self-fulfilling prophecy that the non-canonical names become canonical name, instead of officially endorsed canonical name of "The Chinese University of Hong Kong".

Current behavior has another unintended side effect. Using "Chinese University of Hong Kong" instead of "The Chinese University of Hong Kong" as the Wikipedia canonical page name has resulted in also Google showing the knowledge panel of CUHK as "Chinese University of Hong Kong" instead of "The Chinese University of Hong Kong", because Google trusts Wikipedia to be correct in using a canonical name. Here is an image where I added red bounding rectangles to illustrate: image.

To add to the confusion, the wikipedia page of the Shenzhen campus of CUHK is titled with the canonical name of The Chinese University of Hong Kong, Shenzhen and canonical in terms of URL address (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chinese_University_of_Hong_Kong,_Shenzhen).

Allow me to share an opinion on the technical side shall we hypothetically decide to make an amendment to the canonical name of the page here.

The links to "The Chinese University of Hong Kong" should not break if we perform the following actions (or equivalently) for the page ("Chinese University of Hong Kong" in question:

• Move "Chinese University of Hong Kong" to "The Chinese University of Hong Kong", to preserve change history.
• Explicitly check and enable redirection from "Chinese University of Hong Kong" to "The Chinese University of Hong Kong", ensuring 301 move for proper pagerank propagation.

For "list" pages, for instance the "List of Chinese University of Hong Kong alumni", similar methodology can be applied:

• Move "List of Chinese University of Hong Kong alumni" to "List of The Chinese University of Hong Kong alumni"
• Explicitly check and enable redirection from "Chinese University of Hong Kong" to "The Chinese University of Hong Kong", ensuring 301 move for proper pagerank propagation.

For "citations" on individual Wikipedia pages, I agree that it can be left to the particular articles to preserve congruence of the cited article title and the actual cited article.

In short, the above actions would ensure that no existing links will break.

Per above points, since inconsistencies is not uncommon from press and even within Wikipedia itself, the effect on how future press may refer to Wikpedia, and how Google is mislead to misrepresent "The Chinese University of Hong Kong" as "Chinese University of Hong Kong", the disambiguation on Wikipedia to rely on the officially endorsed canonical name "The Chinese University of Hong Kong" will have a profound effect in helping to endorse the official name of the said University.

Shall we agree to do so, as explained above the actions will not result in broken links for the internet.

Thanks for your time and attention Citobun. I kindly hope that you will consider my suggestion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elliechio (talk • contribs) 10:21, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review-Patrolling: Coordinator elections

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New Page Review - newsletter No.3

Hello Citobun,

Voting for coordinators has now begun HERE and will continue through/to 23:59 UTC Monday 06 March. Please be sure to vote. Any registered, confirmed editor can vote. Nominations are now closed.

Still a MASSIVE backlog

We now have 804 New Page Reviewers but despite numerous appeals for help, the backlog has NOT been significantly reduced.
If you asked for the New Page Reviewer right, please consider investing a bit of time - every little helps preventing spam and trash entering the mainspace and Google when the 'NO_INDEX' tags expire.

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Visa policy of Canada

All right, first off, let me say that the fight over BNO is unnecessary. As you can read, the description of the paragraph says that "Holders of passports issued by the following countries and territories are able to visit Canada with an eTA for a period of up to six months", and BNO passports are issued by the HM passport office in the UK, which is a different country than HK, and not by the HKSAR government. There are only two travel documents issued by Hong Kong: the SAR passport and the Hong Kong Document of Identity for Visa Purposes, and holders of the latter require a visa to visit Canada. I am fully aware that all BNO passport holders are Hongkongers, but the nationality itself is not sufficient to offer the right of abode anywhere in the world, and the Canadian government categorizes BNO and HKSAR passport holders separately. See British National (Overseas) and British Nationality Law which I contributed (to a certain extent).

Secondly, what I meant is that the BNO passport is listed under the "United Kingdom" section, you can do a simple search via the browser's built-in search function. Also it's really hard to type with a 5-inch screen so I may have left the caps lock on.C-GAUN (talk) 17:25, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Beating of Ken Tsang copyright concern

Some of the material you included in the above article was copied from https://www.hongkongfp.com/2017/02/21/heavy-sentences-for-cops-who-beat-occupy-activist-an-assault-on-hong-kong-rule-of-law-state-media-says/, a copyright web page. Copying text directly from a source is a copyright violation. I have paraphrased the material to remove the violation. Please leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions or if you think I made a mistake. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 03:00, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Diannaa. However, I didn't "copy" the content. I did accidentally reuse the phrases "Chinese state mouthpiece" and "sentencing of seven police officers", which is a bit sloppy of me but hardly a flagrant copyright violation, especially considering I have written the entire 24,000 byte page from scratch over the past couple days and the rest of it wasn't "copied" either. The phrase "seven officers" is widely used to describe the case – journalistic writing and encyclopedic writing is similar in nature, and in whittling something down to the simplest possible terms you might accidentally end up with similar phrasing sometimes. The phrase "targeted the judge's nationality", which you also removed, doesn't appear in the source. Citobun (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

(ec) I realize it's not a major violation but I paraphrased it all the same. I removed the phrase "targeted the judge's nationality" because it appears to be opinion. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 03:11, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

@Diannaa: In what way is it opinion? A definition of "target" is a "person or thing against whom criticism or abuse is directed"...the newspaper targeted the judge's nationality in its criticism of the sentencing. Citobun (talk) 03:23, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

It struck me as being your interpretation. It's better in my opinion to let the reader draw their own conclusion from the quotation you provided. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 03:25, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

I've done my QPQ duty at Template:DYK

Citobun -- greetings and thanks for reviewing my DYK submission, Template:Did you know nominations/1891 State Normal School at Cheney fire -- you noted that I was missing my QPQ review, and I wanted you to know I've added it (although the conversation surrounding my review is still under way, I think the dialogue between the submitter and I is reaching a successful conclusion). You may well have made a note to yourself to check back in later, but I thought it might be helpful for me to let you know I've fixed what seems to be your only concern -- thanks so much again! Jwrosenzweig (talk) 23:53, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

• @Jwrosenzweig: done, thanks! Citobun (talk) 03:33, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Beating of Ken Tsang

On 28 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Beating of Ken Tsang, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a television crew captured the beating of a handcuffed protester by police during the 2014 Hong Kong protests? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Beating of Ken Tsang. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Beating of Ken Tsang), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Samantha Bee

We get that you are a Samantha Bee fanboy but it's been all over the news that she made fun of someone with cancer. Stop censoring information that you don't like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.132.83.130 (talk) 21:03, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

• Hi 65.132.83.130. I didn't revert your edit. But I will draw your attention to the policy at Wikipedia:Citing sources which may help ensure your contributions are not reverted in the future. Citobun (talk) 02:29, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Apology

I apologise for putting external links in the body of the Tom Scott article. I did not know about the external links policy. Thank you for pointing that out to me. Won't happen again.SI09 (talk) 14:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

March 2017

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at The Chinese University of Hong Kong, Shenzhen. I have observed that your edits on this page are fulfilled with bias, hate, and racism, all of which are completely unacceptable on Wikipedia. William Qichao Wang 14:37, 16 March 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wangqc (talk • contribs)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did at The Chinese University of Hong Kong, Shenzhen. Please do not delete contents based on your own interests as Wikipedia is not your blog. William Qichao Wang 14:42, 16 March 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wangqc (talk • contribs)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Citobun reported by User:Wangqc (Result: ). Thank you. William Qichao Wang 04:14, 17 March 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wangqc (talk • contribs)

reliable source

Thank you for your information and advice yesterday.

The following reliable sources are provided as reference in "Y. Robert Fang" :

1. Book Review: One City, Two Clothes, Hong Kong: Hong Kong Economic Journal, 6 August 2005 （書評：《一城兩衣》，香港：信報，2005年8月6日）

2. Editor's Note, Hong Kong: Twenty-First Century, CUHK, June, 2001 （《編者的話》，香港：香港中文大學《二十一世紀》，2001年6月）

Hong kong is my home (talk) 04:40, 17 March 2017 (UTC)hong kong is my home

Talk:Moody’s Analytics Knowledge Service listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Talk:Moody’s Analytics Knowledge Service. Since you had some involvement with the Talk:Moody’s Analytics Knowledge Service redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:03, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

SaltWire

Thanks for the thanks. I do have a question that I don't know if you know the answer to, but I thought I'd ask anyway just in case: from the media coverage, I was able to glean that in addition to the 27 papers it acquired from Transcontinental and the Chronicle Herald itself, there are several other papers that the Chronicle Herald already owned which bring the total number of SaltWire papers to 35 — but so far, I've only been able to locate one (The Casket) of the other seven mystery titles. Do you perchance know, or at least have an idea of where we can find out, what the other six titles are that need to be added? Bearcat (talk) 15:50, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

@Bearcat: Good question. I don't know but I'll do some googling. I'm also confused as to how Brace Capital fits into the puzzle. Citobun (talk) 16:02, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Keeping HKFP neutral

Hi there! Hong Kong Free Press seems to be getting a lot of questionable edits. See contributions of:

• 182.253.163.7
• 182.253.163.12
• User:MicheleP608, an account with 2 contributions, both to the HKFP page, both reverted
• 58.153.203.24
• 128.86.180.21
• 112.78.188.93

Nothing major. Most of these edits aren't obviously malicious vandalism, but given the political nature of the page, is there something that can be done about this? Would pending changes protection be excessive?

Thank you for swiftly reverting these and all the other editing you've done on the page. Providing info on media orgs is such important work!

—A L T E R C A R I  ✍ 03:12, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Altercari:! Yes, these sorts of pages tend to attract political agenda editing...pending changes protection seems worth considering, though the page hasn't been vandalised in over a month now. We can keep an eye on it and request protection if it continues? Regards, Citobun (talk) 18:27, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan!

—A L T E R C A R I  ✍ 13:25, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

K Wah International

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like you to assume good faith while interacting with other editors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Whaterss (talk) 08:53, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Dear Citobun,

I understand your concern, yet, as for the English wiki pages of the K Wah International, the information i updated is just synchronize with the Chinese wike page 嘉華國際集團 I consider the projects what I input truthful and factual. This company indeed developed the projects. I believe that keeping the information update is every editor's responsibility. I'm willing to enhance and make amendment according to your opinion. Could you show me which project or wordings are “promotional”? As I found, some wiki are also included the product information which is factual. Sample as below.

Hysan – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysan_Development_Company Henderson - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henderson_Land_Development Sun Hung Kai - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Hung_Kai_Properties

May you please provide me with further guidelines.

Thank you very much for your time.

Speedy deletion declined: Lunametrics

Hello Citobun. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Lunametrics, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article claims importance/significance of the subject. Thank you. SoWhy 20:35, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Collateral damage?

Dear Citobun, Isn't it a bit strange, to change the article about Sada Mire to a version of about 1 year ago, and therewith delete infobox, photograph and bibliography? Vysotsky (talk) 22:21, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

@Vysotsky: I see your point. But when a WP:SPA account with probable WP:COI swoops in, ignores basic policies on WP:What Wikipedia is not, and adds so much promotional content that the page no longer serves as an encyclopedia article but a piece of spam, I don't feel obligated as a volunteer editor to pick through 7,000 bytes to salvage the constructive edits from the crap. I think that Wikipedia is really suffering from the vast number of people who don't know the difference between an encyclopedia and LinkedIn, so that's why I feel comfortable being a bit blunt about reverting highly promotional edits. Thank you for adding the infobox back, though. Citobun (talk) 13:27, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - Newsletter No.4

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move page of "Miramar Shopping Centre"

The building of Miramar Shopping Centre is renamed to Mira Place recently, with news coverage below for your reference:

http://www.quamnet.com/newscontent.action?articleId=5220079

http://paper.hket.com/article/1818787/%E7%BE%8E%E9%BA%97%E8%8F%AF4%E7%89%A9%E6%A5%AD%20%E6%95%B4%E5%90%88Mira%20Place

It seems that my account don't have access right to do a page move (i.e. rename an article). Can you help to do a quick find and replace on it (i.e. change all "Miramar Shopping Centre" text to "Mira Place". If not, can you tell me how I can do it using my account? Thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiwinwin (talk • contribs) 02:16, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

K. Wah International Holdings Ltd

Hi Citobun, I still fail to see (as you have never explained) how a list of project names can be promotional, the content I updated does not contain even a single adjective, it’s simply description of facts and helps people to get a better understanding of this particular property developer. It’s just like for wiki pages of singers/bands, there will be a section detailing their entire discography so that readers know the history of their career, is that promotional too? I did not list out other wiki pages to say that they are promotional, as I reader, I find the information useful and feel that it should remain there. I don’t want to drag on this argument and I do not feel that I have received fair treatment in the course of this whole editing process, is it possible to get another admin to review this and provide a 2nd opinion? It’s really disappointing to see useful and factual information being rejected on Wikipedia just because of the subjective feelings of one admin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zhuyeding (talk • contribs) 02:27, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Meli Melo Artists Alliance

Hello Citobun. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Meli Melo Artists Alliance, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: claims significance; also, after 8 years another week at AFD won't hurt (cf. WP:SILENCE). Thank you. SoWhy 07:58, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of D100 Radio (New York City)

Hello, Citobun. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, D100 Radio (New York City), for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:

1. edit the page
2. remove the text that looks like this: {{proposed deletion/dated...}}
3. save the page

Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

Domdeparis (talk) 12:18, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about D100 Radio (New York City)

Hello, Citobun,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether D100 Radio (New York City) should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/D100 Radio (New York City) .

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks,

Domdeparis (talk) 08:22, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Naomi Wu

I have added more secondary sources to her article. Please address your concerns there on its talk page. Thanks! kencf0618 (talk) 00:06, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Junius Ho

Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Junius Ho. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. You are warned that do not modify the wording in the source. STSC (talk) 11:23, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Woohoo, STSC is back to pepper my talk page with more baseless warning templates, wonderful. My edit was not unreferenced nor poorly referenced, and doesn't constitute libel by the very definition you linked to at WP:BLPREMOVE. Thanks though. Citobun (talk) 14:07, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

I thank you for your cooperation that you don't keep your libelous wording about living person in the article. STSC (talk) 04:32, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

A libelous statement is by definition a falsehood. Ho's remarks were homophobic, so I am not seeing anything libelous in my edit. Citobun (talk) 14:25, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

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I would welcome You to discuss about Hong Kong official languages

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2017 imprisonment of Hong Kong democracy activists‎

Hi, great article you've created but it has omitted some details. Sorry about my edits which I had not cited. I have now included the sources, hope you can approve. STSC (talk) 17:24, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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Edit warring at 2017 imprisonment of Hong Kong democracy activists

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

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EdJohnston, regarding your suggestion that I stop accusing STSC of being a political agenda editor in edit summaries – this follows years of total admin inaction on this issue. What does it take for admins to actually enforce Wikipedia policy and take action against blatant political agenda editors? This user doesn't contribute content or work toward building a balanced encyclopedia, only moves from one China-related article to the next performing minor censorship on things that might reflect badly on Beijing. I have zero interest in wasting my time at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution, because STSC just moves on to censor something else. At 2017 imprisonment of Hong Kong democracy activists it was a photo of the Taiwanese president, then it was a mention of the "Taiwanese government". Next it's something else. Apparently political censorship of reliably-sourced content is totally OK on Wikipedia as long as you are subtle about it. Citobun (talk) 06:44, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

The last time this was considered at ANI there was no consensus for a ban. Unless there is significant new data about STSC (more persuasive than last time around) you should let this go. The recent AN3 shows both of you behaving less than optimally. There were obvious steps of dispute resolution that could have been taken. If you don't have the patience for dispute resolution, you should work on something else. EdJohnston (talk) 13:28, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

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Hello. I noticed you have reverted my edited entry to its original version. I am afraid I do not understand on what basis you removed my entry. Every single sentence in the entry is a summary and extract from the sources instead of direct copy. Proper citation style is used. In order to further improve the quality of the entry and for the benefit of the general public, may you please list out every single sentence you alleged to be plagiarised in my edited entry? I will very much appreciate your effort.

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I'm not sure why you feel that saying that someone is Jewish (when this is a fact) counts as a political agenda. Please explain yourself. 192.171.39.199 (talk) 04:22, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Baselesss accusations

If you're going to veiledly accuse someone of 'sock puppetry', come with some evidence boy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.3.163.172 (talk) 11:38, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Typical pussy behavior. Next you want to try running up on me with your dumbass accusations, bow your head and lick my shoes like the good little dog you are. Know your place beneath me.

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Rodney_Habib can you have a look at this and help make it work, I know I am missing something. I know it isn't your thing, really, but need a second set of eyes. It is really interesting if this dude had 45 million views as a youtuber it would be easy to write/justify, but Facebookers are not the same thing somehow. WayeMason (talk) 23:26, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Yidan Prize

Hi Citobun, I see reposted the advertorial tag on the Yidan Prize. I thought I took most of advertising out of it. Do you still still think it reads like a advert? scope_creep (talk) 14:36, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

@Scope creep: You did well removing some obviously promotional language, but on the whole the article still reads as promotion. All the "official" PR-type images don't help. Citobun (talk) 13:46, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

It a major prize, and I did check, to see if it notable, and I took a some promotional stuff out, I think the Tencent stuff. Could have been my intention and not done, to do more of it. I often worry about drifting when I see messages from editors, who says an article is promotional, and I look at it, and don't the promotional language, unless it is very obvious. If I do see, I will pull it all out as quick as I can and post a WP:PAID disclosure message on the editors page, but often intention is better than fact, for me. I looked at these images, with a plan to pull them, but the Barış Arduç article multiple fan updates got in the way. What is the plan for the article?

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Proper names

Citobun, there may be times when the proper name Light Rail Transit is appropriate, but when it's just "light rail" it's not a proper name; sources can provide good examples, e.g. this one. Dicklyon (talk) 04:39, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Dicklyon – my point was that "Light" wasn't decapitalised too, which makes no sense. Citobun (talk) 04:45, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Dicklyon I think this was very clear from the edit summary so the link is not necessary. Citobun (talk) 04:46, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

But reverting due to an incomplete edit is a bit harsh. It's hard to fix everything at once. I may not have downcased everything that should have been, either, but I did what I found. Dicklyon (talk) 06:28, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

And what do you make of this? This all seems to be being implemented in a very sloppy and nonsensical way. Citobun (talk) 04:48, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

That one would deserve a quick revert, I think. Dicklyon (talk) 06:28, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

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He moved the censorship section to the bottom again. Managed to get in a last one before the block. It's semi-protected now so I can't solve it. Could you fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.156.233.252 (talk) 09:52, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you for your interest in our user group. To obtain the status as a Wikimedia User Group, we have to make a decision on our mission. A member of the user group put forward a motion to amend the provisional missions proposed in March 2017 since i) it is unable to reflect the user group’s actual operation and social situation and ii) it has never been endorsed by a majority of members of the user group. You are welcome to endorse or discuss on this motion on Meta (link.) We look forward to your reply.

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The consultation on the proposed amendments to the user group's mission will end on Sunday, 20th May. You are encouraged to comment on our meta page. As a reminder - two-third majority is require to have the motion passed. Regards, --Spring Roll Conan ( Talk · Contributions ) 14:20, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

The consultation on the proposed amendments to the user group's mission has ended. However, the results can't be confirmed instantly due to errors in my statement. You are welcome to comment on ways to deal with it on our meta page. Regards, --Spring Roll Conan ( Talk · Contributions ) 14:29, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

I collect information and judge it by yourself.

They may not be relevant, but after reading the data I feel that they are the same person.

If you combine ZHWIKI's data, you can also find other weird phenomena. --O1lI0 (talk) 02:28, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

CPC TP discussion

Further to your investigation here, you may be interested in an ongoing debate which one of the ISP account holder (123.161.171.194) commented on. Wingwraith (talk) 00:07, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Further to the above, your comments concerning this ongoing debate would be welcomed. Wingwraith (talk) 01:52, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/2001:E68:540E:6C84:B039:7333:ECD0:B8FC/Archive

I threw a few rangeblocks at them. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 02:42, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@Drmies: Thanks ... since the SPI went nowhere I haven't been sure what to do aside from revert the vandalism daily. Citobun (talk) 02:43, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Well I did see the opportunity for two rangeblocks. The good thing is that I'm an amateur, so if I blocked all of South Asia they can blame it on me. I don't know how much good this will do, but I also wanted you to know that your efforts are appreciated. Now, I rolled back a bunch of edits, but there may be some that escaped the "rollback all". Thanks again, Drmies (talk) 02:44, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Drmies:, the date vandal appears to have reemerged again: 113.210.67.161 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Same 113.210.XXXXX range as previous offenders... would it be possible to impose a rangeblock here? Thank you, Citobun (talk) 06:33, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi again @Drmies:, sorry to bother, but he/she is actively going strong again on 2001:E68:540E:5BD1:19D:723E:F877:4C10 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) :( Citobun (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

I see they're blocked already; thanks Widr. Drmies (talk) 17:00, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018

Hello Citobun, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

ACTRIAL:

• WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Deletion tags

• Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders. They require your further verification.

Backlog drive:

• A backlog drive will take place from 10 through 20 June. Check out our talk page at WT:NPR for more details. NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.

Editathons

• There will be a large increase in the number of editathons in June. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.

Paid editing - new policy

• Now that ACTRIAL is ACREQ, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. There is a new global WMF policy that requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines

• The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
• Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies.

Not English

• A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, tag as required, then move to draft if they do have potential.

News

• Development is underway by the WMF on upgrades to the New Pages Feed, in particular ORES features that will help to identify COPYVIOs, and more granular options for selecting articles to review.
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Edit War against "PE fans"

I've noticed that you are engaged in an edit war with me. I quite understand that you have a strong point of view and your dream is to make Wikipedia consistence with your opinions, undo any opinions against you and block all the users including me with different opinion of you. However, even though you may want to fight against me for your personal opinions, what I want to do is to ally with you against ignorance, bias and hostility between peoples. I really want to be a friend with you under the "Neutral point of view", "Verifiability" and "No original research" principles.

The "Neutral point of view" means that Wikipedia aims to describe disputes, but not engage in them. Therefore, for example, an article should not state that "genocide is an evil action", but it may state that "genocide has been described by John X as the epitome of human evil."

The "Verifiability" principle means that information comes from a reliable source. The content of Wikipedia is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of its editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it.

Finally, Wikipedia articles must not contain original research! To demonstrate that you are not adding OR, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented.

Please calm down, stop bias, and work with other editors together under the "Neutral point of view", "Verifiability" and "No original research" principles of Wikipedia. Blocking other editors from editing in order to support your own point view does not help.

I'd like to shake hands with youPE fans (talk) 00:05, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia is WP:NOT the place for political agenda editing. You are changing "Taiwan" to "Taiwan (Province of China)"... this is an encyclopedia, not a vehicle for Chinese government propaganda. Citobun (talk) 02:09, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place for political agenda editing. It is not allowed to change “Taiwan” into “Taiwan (province of China)”. The only thing allowed is “The ISO short name for Taiwan is Taiwan (province of China)”, “The common name for Taiwan is Taiwan” and “The International Tennis Federation name for Taiwan is Chinese Taipei”. Please do not confuse opinions like “genocide is an evil action", with facts like “genocide has been described by John X as the epitome of human evil." You can express your opinions, however even if you disagree with John X, you can not change “genocide has been described by John X as the epitome of human evil” into “genocide has been described by John X as the epitome of human goodness."PE fans (talk) 02:38, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Mature Times

Hello Citobun. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Mature Times, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 cannot be applied to journals or newspapers. Thank you. SoWhy 07:33, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Page Move Discussion

There is a Page move discussion going on for Rajneesh. Would you be interested in participating? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rajneesh#Requested_move_11_June_2018 Accesscrawl (talk) 15:08, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

NPP Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello Citobun, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

We can see the light at the end of the tunnel: there are currently 2900 unreviewed articles, and 4000 unreviewed redirects.

Announcing the Backlog Elimination Drive!

• As a final push, we have decided to run a backlog elimination drive from the 20th to the 30th of June.
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Shanghai Media Group COI

@Citobun: Hi, just wondering what editor you think has a conflict of interest in the Shanghai Media Group article. Also, if possible, please start a discussion about it on the talk page. Thanks. HapHaxion _{(talk / contribs)} 21:49, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Letter from Wikimedia User Group Hong Kong

Dear Citobun,

Thank you for your interest in our user group.

• It is proposed to adopt amendments to the mission of the user group proposed in March this year by combining the consensus expressed in the user group's talk page and our last meetup. The motion will settle in this way unless there are objections raised before 11th July.
• To obtain the status as a Wikimedia User Group, we have to elect liaisons to contact with the Affiliations Committee. You are welcome to nominate yourself or editors who are capable by tomorrow on Meta. No elections will be held if there are less than four nominees; otherwise single transferable voting is applied to elect liaisons.

Yours sincerely,

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Lim Kit Siang

Well, you removed my edit, and I have reverted back. Others are fine. Cheers.--1233^Talk 04:59, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. ()

Hello Citobun, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

June backlog drive

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers.
Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.

New technology, new rules

• New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
• Probationary permissions: Now that PERM has been configured to allow expiry dates to all minor user rights, new NPR flag holders may sometimes be limited in the first instance to 6 months during which their work will be assessed for both quality and quantity of their reviews. This will allow admins to accord the right in borderline cases rather than make a flat out rejection.
• Current reviewers who have had the flag for longer than 6 months but have not used the permissions since they were granted will have the flag removed, but may still request to have it granted again in the future, subject to the same probationary period, if they wish to become an active reviewer.

Editathons

• Editathons will continue through August. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.

The Signpost

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Letter from Wikimedia User Group Hong Kong

Dear Citobun,

Thank you for your interest in our user group. We have started the process to request for recognition of the WMF. However, the Affiliations Committee consider that our name is not following their guidelines and ask for renaming. A member of the user group put forward a motion to choose a new name for the group with three options provided. You are welcome to endorse or discuss this motion on Meta (link.) We look forward to your reply.

Yours sincerely,

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Renaming of Wikimedia User Group Hong Kong

Dear Citobun/archive1 :

You are receiving this email as you have signed up as an interested member of the Wikimedia User Group Hong Kong, and is active at the English Wikipedia.

This message is sent on behalf of group Liasons of the User Group.

As the mission of the group has been successfully amended, and Liasons elected, the Liasons to affcom have now sent an email to Affcom seeking recognition. However, during the process (which is delayed by the hosting of Wikimania), we have been requested by them Affcom to amend the name of the usergroup (which subsequently mean a change of text of logo as well) as our name did not meet their guidelines.

To resolve this problem, one of the liasons, 1233, has started a discussion on the group's meta talk page(meta) to amend the name of the User Group according to the email received about the recognition of the group. We would hope for more input so as to obtain consensus on this matter and resolve this situation. The discussion will end at 00:00, 1 September (HKT, UTC+8).

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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018

Hello Citobun, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.

Project news

• The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.

As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.

• There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination#Coordinator tasks for more info to see if you can help out.

Other

• A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.

Moving to Draft and Page Mover

• Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
• If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
• Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
• The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js^(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
• The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.

List of other useful scripts for New Page Reviewing

Twinkle provides a lot of the same functionality as the page curation tools, and some reviewers prefer to use the Twinkle tools for some/all tasks. It can be activated simply in the gadgets section of 'preferences'. There are also a lot of options available at the Twinkle preferences panel after you install the gadget. In terms of other gadgets for NPR, HotCat is worth turning on. It allows you to easily add, remove, and change categories on a page, with name suggestions. MoreMenu also adds a bunch of very useful links for diagnosing and fixing page issues. User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js(info): Installing scripts doesn't have to be complicated. Go to your common.js and copy importScript( 'User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js' ); into an empty line, now you can install all other scripts with the click of a button from the script page! (Note you need to be at the ".js" page for the script for the install button to appear, not the information page) User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js(info): Creates a scrolling new pages list at the left side of the page. You can change the number of pages shown by adding the following to the next line on your common.js page (immediately after the line importing this script): npp_num_pages=20; (Recommended 20, but you can use any number from 1 to 50). User:Primefac/revdel.js(info): Is requesting revdel complicated and time consuming? This script helps simplify the process. Just have the Copyvio source URL and go to the history page and collect your diff IDs and you can drop them into the script Popups and it will create a revdel request for you. User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js(info): Creates a "Page Curation" link to Special:NewPagesFeed up near your sandbox link. User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/deletionFinder.js: Creates links next to the title of each page which show up if it has been previously deleted or nominated for deletion. User:Evad37/rater.js(info): A fantastic tool for adding WikiProject templates to article talk pages. If you add: rater_autostartNamespaces = 0; to the next line on your common.js, the prompt will pop up automatically if a page has no Wikiproject templates on the talk page (note: this can be a bit annoying if you review redirects or dab pages commonly).

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Keesmaat

STOP portraying Keesmaat as a fringe candidate by maintaining that her only political position is for Toronto to seceed from Ontario. She has many many progressive policies that people have the right to know about. If you don't like how something is worded, change only that part. Don't delete all of her policies! That's not a good faith atitude towards editing.22:22, 7 October 2018 (UTC)22:22, 7 October 2018 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:555F:F71D:85D0:4DE1:820A:E000 (talk)

MTR Disruptions due to (Israeli?) computer bug

Dear Citobun, perhaps you have prematurely and mistakenly deleted my contribution to the MTR Article concerning the DISRUPTIONS to transport. the Morning Post has called it a "bug", and if you use another newspaper, that`s fine too, but to delete rather than improve is not in the spirit of good wikipedianess. Re-upping. Cheers 126.3.46.41 (talk) 09:17, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

@126.3.46.41: as requested on your talk page, please provide a citation. In the absence of any citation your contribution appears to be WP:OR. Citobun (talk) 09:24, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your request; may I ask what newspaper news you would prefer as the MTR computer-bug inHK is very well covered in the press? If you do not like South China Morning Post (it is favoured by English-speaking wikipedians), perhaps xinhua would do? Thanks again 126.3.46.41 (talk) 09:28, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I see you have improved the content; thank you, and lets hope no more premature disruptions in future. SCADA is mentioned, so lets wikilink it. 126.3.46.41 (talk) 09:32, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Citobun, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Backlog

As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

Community Wishlist Proposal

• There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
• Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!

Project updates

• ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
• There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.

New scripts

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About MTR Metro Cammell EMU (DC)

Hi, Citobun. I think we can request for protection to this page because the anonymous user is still vandalizing this page. I am a railfan and focusing on MTR now though I live in Shenzhen, so I think this page's information should be correct. Thank you! I am sorry if my grammer or something else is wrong because of my bad English, or you can use Traditional Chinese to communicate with me in Chinese Wikipedia. QBYQ7 (talk) 12:34, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @QBYQ7: I've requested that with Twinkle. Jc86035 (talk) 15:08, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks both! Citobun (talk) 22:25, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@QBYQ7: @Jc86035: I actually think some of these pages have been subject to subtle vandalism for some time. The M-Train page still has inaccuracies. For instance, it says the phase 1 trains were "delivered from 1973–1976" when in fact the contract was only awarded to Metro Cammell in 1976. An old (2016) revision instead says "delivered from 1979–1982". I'm not sure much on this page can be trusted at the moment. I seem to remember IPs messing around with the car-number train lists quite a bit too. I will try to help clean up where I can. Citobun (talk) 22:34, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I traced this to 112.119.183.94 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) from July and October. Warned the IP and will attempt to revert now. Citobun (talk) 22:37, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Citobun,

Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW

• Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.

If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.

We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.

With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.

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NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

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Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.

Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.

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Template

Hi, could you explain why you reverted my edits to Adrian Cheng? I'm not affiliated - the topic was mentioned on the Allen Institute for Brain Science, and I found it there. Either way, I only added a few newspaper articles and Bloomberg, hardly befitting a COI tag in my opinion. Thanks. 66.198.222.67 (talk) 14:21, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Revision to Ocean Network

Hello Citobun, could you please advise why you are under the impression that my revision was disruptive? I have created the page Ocean Network Express in May 2017, and along with other users (including Administrators) improved it, with over 84 revisions that brought to the version you edited. Suddenly another user (not administrator) deleted the majority of it and all references, making the page nearly useless, as missing the main descriptive aspects. I have been improving and creating pages for all main Shipping Lines in the industry with a neutral view, using the information available on the web and literature to ensure all statements are supported by corresponding references. Which part of the page were you referring as spam, considering that other administrators did not flag it as such? I am available to revise it as necessary, but keeping the article informative by providing the information collected from several sources. Thank you Goodwillgames —Preceding undated comment added 15:16, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Goodwillgames: your editing is disruptive because you are continually re-adding promotional content that multiple editors have objected to, and have explained why (the tone of the writing is spammy and unencyclopedic). Take this sentence for instance, which is promotional and imparts very little information: "ONE colour and appearance are only part of the equation to stand out in the container shipping trade, and to represent the new that is emerging. Cherry blossom magenta is therefore just a symbol to convey a larger concept and idea for the shipping world, that needs to change dynamics by becoming a more visible and a less obscure industry for its final customers." This doesn't make any sense, and is promotional in tone. Please stop reverting. Thanks, Citobun (talk) 03:08, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining me your view. I assume one of reference (as the one the Chamber of shipping) linked to that sentence was no more part of the article. http://www.cosbc.ca/index.php/regulatory-updates/item/4191-april-13-mol-triumph. This company has decided to paint all their ships in pink. This is a rather unusual decision. About 200 ships longer than 365 meters and larger than 50 meters (like 3 football pitches each). It is like omitting the section about the "red colour" from Ferrari motor racing cars Wikipedia page. I will consider how to re-add some sections in the page, but I feel my edits will be immediately reverted by Madrenergic. Goodwillgames —Preceding undated comment added 11:44, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

2015 Tianjin explosions

Dear, I have cited the news resources refuting the false statements. Thus, this is NEVER EVER vandalism. Please be considerate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guofenghao22 (talk • contribs) 10:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17

Hello Citobun,

News

• The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the {{rough translation}} tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.

Discussions of interest

• Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
• {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
• A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
• There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.

Reminders

• NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.

NPP Tools Report

• Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
• copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
• The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

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Lai Chi Kok Bridge

It's so obvious that the wikitable is an IINFO. Having the latest data is already enough unless you have other things to talk about. Σανμοσα^{The Trve Lawe of free Monarchies} 08:52, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

@Sanmosa: No, it's not obvious. I added that table in the same spirit in which people add tables to airport articles showing historic passenger counts. I don't particularly see what the difference is in this case. Citobun (talk) 12:42, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Take a look at some roadway FAs and GAs, none of them has such things. Roadways are totally different from airports. Σανμοσα^{The Trve Lawe of free Monarchies} 02:28, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@Sanmosa: Ontario Highway 401 is the first featured FA that I looked at for a roadway. It indeed does have a table with historic traffic counts. Citobun (talk) 04:22, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

There's a main difference. Ontario highway 401's AADT data is for comparison of difference in AADT with a separation longer than a decade (exc. 2006-2016, yet it's still a long separation) ; Lai Chi Kok Bridge's data is continuous by year, it is not for comparison, but for knowing the tendency. However, I don't think that readers need such tendency data. Σανμοσα^{The Trve Lawe of free Monarchies} 04:30, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@Sanmosa: I don't see the distinction. They both serve to show the trend over time. This so-called "main difference" seems to be your own arbitrary interpretation. Anyway, do what you want. Citobun (talk) 04:37, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I mean that even if there is a trend shown in the table in Ontario Highway 401, it consists of a much longer period of time, so it is meaningful. A trend in a short period of time seems meaningless. Σανμοσα^{The Trve Lawe of free Monarchies} 04:39, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Please don't

This was a wanker's move, when you have made the same number of reverts that I have. Please don't. --MarchOrDie (talk) 06:11, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Asia Times

You just deleted my changes to Asia Times page and marked it as 'spam'. It was not spam. I work for Asia Times and have spent two days making these edits. They fit within my understanding of wiki guidelines. What is the problem please? Thank you Kookstar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kookstar (talk • contribs) 13:31, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Citobun, I have reverted your edit - much of the content in your revert is out of date - but have also deleted an external reference that you may have deemed promotional. This is intended to be factual and indeed is. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kookstar (talk • contribs) 13:56, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• @Kookstar: The content you are adding is promotional in tone and completely incompatible with an impartial encyclopedia. Please review WP:COI, WP:NPOV, and WP:NOTPROMO. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a means for you to promote your business. Please stop. It reflects poorly on your company and wastes the time of volunteer editors who must clean up after you. Citobun (talk) 06:36, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed Safe Space Policy for the Hong Kong User Group

To ensure a safe, friendly, inclusive and harassment-free environment for all future events, it is proposed that a Safe Space Policy shall be established by the User Group.

The full proposed policy is posted at meta:Wikimedia Community User Group Hong Kong/Safe Space Policy.

A consultation on the proposed policy is currently conducted. During the consultation period, please voice your opinion on the discussion thread in Meta. The proposed policy would come in effect on 22 May 2019 if no objections are raised by the user group members.

Regards, --無聊龍 (talk) 05:29, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18

Hello Citobun,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

• Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
• Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

Backlog drive coming soon

Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.

News

• Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.

Discussions of interest

• A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
• There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
• What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like

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2019 Hong Kong protests

Hi, in this edit you reverted quite a few purely stylistic edits and other content along with the section you were presumably taking issue with. Could you clarify which part you meant to revert? —Nizolan ^(talk) 11:52, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

• @Nizolan: Oops, I don't know how I did that. I'll fix it. Thanks! Citobun (talk) 11:53, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

stop making abusive reverts on gui meihai

Your comments are too vague to be useful; and you're deleting entire well-cited sections; so please stop before your edit privileges are revoked. Your edits are also pointless, and the weight of evidence is against you. You seriously can't be disagreeing with the New York Times, Reuters, and BBC, all at once. Alexkyoung (talk) 05:12, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Alexkyoung you are being deliberately obtuse by accusing me of "disagreeing" with reliable sources and ignoring everyone's rationale for reverting your purposely misleading edits. What is your motivation here? The drink-driving incident was an allegation, not fact, and it has widely been reported that the confession is not credible. You are purposely misinterpreting sources. Again, what is your motivation here? Are you a paid editor? Review the policies at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and stop abusing the encyclopedia. Citobun (talk) 01:15, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

I never said it was fact; I just said it was reported by reliable sources. It is up to the reader to decide whether it is fact or not. But to remove all that is just censorship and makes one no different from the PRC itself. You know you and wikipedia can do better than that. We already called compromise and ceasefire with User:Ohconfucius's edits. The final edits acknowledge that the case is alleged as you point out, but still reports on the case (without saying it is fact). Let's move on. Good day.Alexkyoung (talk) 03:28, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Stop edit warring

Please stop retaliating. I would stick to editing other articles rather than trying to interfere with others. Alexkyoung (talk) 19:46, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Xinjiang Pages and User:Alexkyoung. Darthkayak (talk) 21:29, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

Hello Citobun,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

QUALITY of REVIEWING

Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.

Backlog

The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.

Move to draft

NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.

Notifying users

Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.

PERM

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Other news

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Jimmy O. Yang's name

Hello. Please see the article's talk page. Reliable sources, including Yang's own web page, refer to him as Yang, not O. Yang. I hope that you're not trying to argue that he doesn't know his own name, or that he doesn't get to decide what it is. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 02:13, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

@BlackcurrantTea: The way the name is rendered in English, it would be easy for native English speakers to misunderstand what the surname is, so though you have provided reliable sources, I would not be surprised if they rendered the name this way erroneously. I can't find where his surname is rendered as "Yang" on his personal website, while his personal Facebook page shows "Jimmy OuYang" in parentheses, suggesting his English name actually does align with his Chinese name. Anyway, I don't really care about this issue and I am not going to revert you. Maybe drop the petulant attitude. Citobun (talk) 02:30, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

I notice that you tagged the page Danqi Chen for speedy deletion with the reason "article about a real person that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject". While that's a valid reason for speedy deletion in general, this page does not qualify for speedy deletion under that criterion because the article says she won a gold medal at the International Informatics Olympiad, which is a reasonable assertion of notability. If you still want the page to be deleted, please consider tagging it with a speedy deletion template which does apply, redirecting it to another page, proposing the page for deletion if it appears to be an uncontroversial matter, or taking the page to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion for discussion on the merits. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 11:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Revertation

I see you reverted my edit on the Hong Kong riots. Is there a reason you did that? Porygon-Z (talk) 07:03, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Porygon-Z: Yes, I've left a message on your talk page already. Citobun (talk) 07:11, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

And while I understand where you're coming from, it doesn't make sense which form of English to use. If , let's say as an example, I'm using American English and someone who reads the article uses Australian English. They might be confused at how the English is used, but to a British person, it might make perfect sense. How do I know which form to use, although if the author is bilingual it might make it even harder, and when to use it? Porygon-Z (talk) 07:15, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Porygon-Z: The article is generally written in the style of English that aligns with the subject of the article. In this case, the article uses Hong Kong English, an official language of Hong Kong. We generally write days in the day/month/year format. Citobun (talk) 07:18, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

How do I know if it's the correct form of english and how do I know what form of english to use? What if it's a neutral subject like science? Porygon-Z (talk) 21:58, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Porygon-Z: Please read the notice I left on your talk page. The policy is clearly explained there. Citobun (talk) 01:34, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

I get it now thank you. Porygon-Z (talk) 05:47, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello! My mate!

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --STSC (talk) 03:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Hey! This looks pretty much like a personal attack. Please address this matter at ANI  Dlohcierekim (talk) 03:29, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for making personal attacks towards other editors. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

You've been blocked for your continued personal attacks against STSC, including this edit that alleges "a 5-year campaign of censorship and misinformation". NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:52, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

• @NinjaRobotPirate: I have tried to resolve editing disputes with this user through normal channels for many years. Despite myself and others raising concerns about recurrent problematic long-term editing patterns, the issue persists to today. If this is a personal attack I am seriously unsure how one would raise concerns about any long-term political agenda editing/censorship, which I feel is an increasing threat to the impartiality of the encyclopedia, especially with regard to Hong Kong topics and the like (Tibet, Taiwan, Xinjiang, etc.). Citobun (talk) 10:23, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
  • You can't just accuse someone of engaging in a years-long campaign of POV-pushing. You have to provide evidence. For example, when you say someone has a pattern of editing, you have to provide enough diffs that people can see the pattern themselves. If you agree to stop making unsubstantiated accusations, I'm sure you'll be unblocked – just follow the instructions above. Then, you can go back to ANI and post evidence that backs up what you've said. Think of it this way: what if some editor told the admins that you have been engaged in a campaign of misinformation and censorship. You wouldn't want us to block you just because someone else said so, right? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:27, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: I have provided substantial evidence in the past (i.e. 2015 and 2016), and did link to those pages in my comment at Talk:2019 Yuen Long violence, which is partly what led STSC to post the ANI complaint about me. And on the ANI page itself I did link (twice) to this diff, which I characterised as evidence of blatantly spreading disinformation. Is that really a personal attack?

Also, I feel I could equally accuse STSC of "harassment" for plastering my talk page with so many overly aggressive block warning templates (Ctrl+F "STSC"), accusing others of being "Falun Gong editors" with no evidence, etc. Citobun (talk) 02:11, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Citobun (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I will not make any unsubstantiated accusations in the future. Citobun (talk) 02:21, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Procedural decline as the block has expired. Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 19:26, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

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• @NinjaRobotPirate: I still can't edit anything because "my IP address was used by a blocked user". Considering I have been a constructive editor for over seven years, and provided evidence supporting my allegations against STSC's editing behaviors, I find this extremely frustrating, demotivating and basically not justified. Meanwhile STSC actively continues to harass me by continuing to place frivolous warning templates on my talk page despite my having repeatedly asked him to stop. Citobun (talk) 01:22, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
  • You should be able to edit now. I checked a few logs, and your IP address is not currently flagged as blocked. If you still can't edit, ping me. I should be able to fix any problems, but it'd help a lot if you copy-pasted the entirety of any messages you see. And, STSC, you should stop posting here if Citobun doesn't want you to. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:50, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Whether he/she wishes or not, I hardly want to post anything on this page here, to be honest, unless it's a procedural requirement by Wikipedia. STSC (talk) 15:12, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions alert

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

STSC (talk) 18:32, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

@STSC: What is this about? Please stop plastering my talk page with so many of these warning templates. Citobun (talk) 02:25, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Not a warning, just a friendly reminder. Thank you. STSC (talk) 19:49, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

@STSC: Reminder about what? What are you referring to? Please stop posting so many frivolous warning templates on my talk page. Citobun (talk) 01:11, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Just feel free to ignore this DS alert. STSC (talk) 15:26, 31 July 2019 (UTC)