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A kitten for you!

Hi, Thank you for the help. I'm friends with Jimmy Lyon and I'll also see if he would list on his Wikipedia page that he went to Marina High. I'll also do some more research on other Notable Alumni. I did have another question. How do I add a text box to the right of the article to add our School Emblem and information about the high school? Thanks and have a great weekend! Ellen H.

Eholmgren (talk) 04:57, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Eholmgren -- For his Wikipedia page to list that he went to Marina High, there would be the same problem. All Wikipedia pages need to be based on reliable sources, and one Wikipedia page can't be the source for another Wikipedia page. Does he have an official website? I don't see an obvious one. He could list his high school there if so. Another way would be to ask him if he happens to know any press articles about himself that mention his high school. I'll add a partially filled-out "infobox" to the article for you in the next five minutes or so. Happy editing! Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:01, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Eholmgren I put up the infobox for you. You can add extra information to it if you know the answers to (and ideally have reliable sources for) any of the blanks. To get a logo in the infobox, you'll first have to upload a file. It's a pretty complicated process but there is a file upload wizard that hopefully can help you jump through all the hoops. Just click "Upload file" in the bar at the left of any page to start. Then, once it's uploaded, specify the filename in the infobox (e.g. | image = Schoollogo.jpg). Let me know if you have any questions. Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:11, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Thank you, again, so much. I'm so new at doing this. I just told my friends about this, so there should be more activity on the page. I'll read up on how to add the logo. Thanks for adding the text box. It probably would have taken me a couple of hours to do! Best of luck to you in all you do! Ellen H. Eholmgren (talk) 05:24, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

21:15:42, 17 May 2015 review of submission by STwardosz


I added numerous links that go to why this page is notable. The links are from various publishers who have cited this show or episodes of the show. Links include USC Cinema, Filmmaker IQ, Cultural Weekly, No Film School, ScriptMag, and Good in a Room.

STwardosz (talk) 21:15, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

I looked at those links and did not find them to be sufficient. Most are just mentions or are links to show episodes. That is not enough. Also, the USC source is not independent. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:05, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Notability of educational institutions?

Daer Calliope,

Thank you for the cookies. I got your message, and also the invitation to the Tea House, but could not quite figure out how to use the latter, so please allow me to contact you directly in this way.

You noted in your review that more evidence was required to underpin the notability of a given entity, and read through the exchanges between you and other users on your talk page. I have come to understand (I think) that membership/ affiliation with a notable body does not automatically confer notability on an institution, right? (e.g. in the Case of a Library, with multiple memberships in organizations that have a Wikipedia entry).

On the other hand, I saw that there were a few entries on High Schools in the US, which would most probably be referenced in newspapers -- can I infer, then, that press coverage is something that would be an index of notability?

Any other leads and comments would be much appreciated. This is the first draft that I have every written, and I am eager to learn. Also, if I edit and resubmit, will you be looking at it again -- in other words, are you 'my' editor that I can work with?

Best, Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark.muehlhaeusler (talk • contribs) 09:56, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Mark.muehlhaeusler WP:GNG is the page that lays out the general notability guidelines that apply to pretty much everything on Wikipedia. The basic yardstick is whether there is significant coverage in multiple reliable independent sources. That could be "press" coverage, or could be coverage in any other such sources (in the case of an academic library, I'm not sure if the library's collections would be discussed in library-related scholarly journals, for example). I'm not your assigned editor -- if you resubmit, it goes back in the general pool. If you think you have made progress with adding more independent sources, feel free to contact me on my talk page again. If I think it's good enough, I'll approve it. And if I still don't think it's good enough, I'll let someone else review it in case they disagree with me. (win-win!) Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:26, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Calliopejen1

Dear Calliope, Thanks for the hints, and the kind offer to take another look. After your response, I re-read your original note, and get the sense that the issue at stake is: whether the Library is commonly seen as sufficiently independent from its parent institution to merit separate treatment. I guess that with larger institutions, one can argue both ways ... but for the sake of the draft, I obviously assume that it *is* a topic in its own right. So, I went and gathered some references, which I tried to insert in the right spots throughout the draft. I don't expect to sway your judgement all at once --there are a few more references that I could add--, but wonder if you can tell me if I'm on the right track here. Best, Mark Mark.muehlhaeusler (talk) 11:34, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Mark.muehlhaeusler, that's somewhat better -- though note that the interview with David Arnold isn't independent given that Arnold is describing his own university's library. Another idea is to look for sources in Arabic (sources need not be in English to be used in Wikipedia). Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:50, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

17:59:23, 20 May 2015 review of submission by Ravin9976


How would you recommend i account for the early history of the company from 1925-1990? The one main reference is a book written about the company. I used an amazon reference which I guess is not good. But I think referencing the book is good. Please advise.Ravin9976 (talk) 17:59, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Ravin9976 (talk) 17:59, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Ravin9976 -- For now, I would recommend leaving that section out entirely. See what can be written about the company using only secondary sources. Eventually, some content sourced to primary sources could be acceptable (see WP:PSTS). Given that the main problem with the article is that notability has not been established, and primary sources cannot be used to establish notability, I'd just concentrate on getting as much good content from secondary sources as possible. Once you have fleshed it out that way, some content can be added sparingly from primary sources. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Okay, thank you.Ravin9976 (talk) 18:55, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

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May 2015

Thanks for telling me info on why you rejected my page. I appreciate the information and I will now do that correctly from now on. :) Emeraldminecart (Talk) 10:18 AM May 20

You're welcome! Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:04, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Cathleen Miller

I'm not sure how to fix the "notability" issue on the page I'm trying to create (Cathleen Miller: Author). I've included articles from numerous sources, including a New York Times article. I'd really appreciate a few pointers on how to establish this and make the content sound less like an "advertisement." Thanks. 2602:304:CDC1:CF20:CD15:8141:ED13:A3F1 (talk) 03:38, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

2602:304:CDC1:CF20:CD15:8141:ED13:A3F1, I think if you cull out the promotional content and sources affiliated with the author (i.e. remove references to her website, her books on amazon, etc., and content sourced thereto), and write the article strictly based on what has been published in high-quality secondary sources, you will make the best case for the notability of this author. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:04, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

19:13:54, 21 May 2015 review of submission by Stephanieelle


Hi

I recently wrote an article on Alix Malka/Photographer that was declined. I was wondering if you could inform me as to how to create an article that establishes his Notability.

In my article I listed his cover work with the dates/issue and volume of the magazines, is there a better way to cite these? I have also used sources like the Photo Magazine and Essays written about him for Art Basel, how do I properly cite these?

Any other pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks E.

Stephanieelle (talk) 19:13, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Stephanieelle -- Generally, you should be citing references about him and his work, not citing his work itself. Right now there are plenty of references to his work, but those primary sources don't help to establish notability. Sources like essays written about him for Art Basel could be helpful to establish notability. You can check out Help:Referencing for beginners to learn how to make footnotes (the videos are the most helpful part of the page IMO). In general, though, formatting of references is not terribly important so long as you include the key facts about the reference -- author, title, date, publication name/volume/number if in a periodical, publisher, ISBN if a book, etc. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:18, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Japan Trench Fast Drilling Project (May 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by JMHamo was:
This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
JMHamo (talk) 06:45, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

17:22:26, 15 May 2015 review of submission by MMacClark


Submission: Effective Intelligence

Hello. Thank you for your feedback. This is my first wiki submission; I'm still finding my feet.

I had a moment of clarity when I realized that the references should be to third parties. I was stuck in my uni paradigm of footnotes. In this case, my references were to the popular works based on Jerry Rhodes' original research. I have found 3rd party references and will edit accordingly (once I figure out how to edit references).

Re your comment about "not catching on", it's an interesting point. Over 150,000 people around the world have been exposed to the Effective Intelligence model (typically through the Thinking-Intentions Profile), but the online proofs of that are admittedly scarce. Perhaps because the model was originally built for the Philips corporation and not in academe.

Hmmm. May I clarify that you have declined the entry for both reasons? References and "catching on"? I know I can improve the references, but I don't know how to convince you about the models "widespreadness". CAn you suggest something?

Thank you again.

Michael


MMacClark (talk) 17:22, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

MMacClark -- "Catching on" and references are essentially the same thing. "Catching on" is basically my shorthand for a lot of third-party references discussing the idea. I'm skeptical that enough third-party sources exist in the first place given the citation counts at Google Scholar, but maybe you could prove me wrong. I'd recommend putting together a new list of reliable independent sources (without rewriting the article yet -- if the concept isn't notable I don't want you spending a ton of time writing that is ultimately wasted!) that explicitly discuss Rhodes' concept of "effective intelligence". Then I'd recommend asking me or someone else at Wikipedia:Teahouse for guidance about whether the references show notability. Once you've gotten enough references, then you can work on rewriting the article (probably from scratch) based mainly on what third-party references say, with limited references to Rhodes' work itself. The point of an encyclopedia article is not just to summarize Rhodes' findings but to put them in context -- what have other people said about them? etc. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Calliope.

Many of the articles I list in References are available in PDF format, but behind a purchasing front for the journal in question. Firstly, may I cite something behind a paywall? Secondly, may I cite articles by Jerry Rhodes, himself. Can we assume that, say, the journal "Industrial & Commercial Training" would not publish something they hadn't vetted, effectively proclaiming the article's veracity?

Another question, Is it possible for a concept to be notable while not having many web references? If yes, I'm trying to think of some way to prove that the model and its tools have been used by over 150k people around the world. Hmmm.

In other news, I have updated my citations to independent sources, limited though they are. Should I resubmit the posting, or shall I provide the citations to you in this mode?

Looking at other "profile" instruments on wikipedia... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DISC_assessment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Thinking_Hats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herrmann_Brain_Dominance_Instrument ...I notice there are citations to the originator's own website and even practitioner's websites. May I use material on the Effective Intelligence http://effectiveintelligence.com/home.aspx as a citation? Or practitioner's?

Thank you for continuing the conversation. I want to get this right, and I appreciate your time. M — Preceding unsigned comment added by MMacClark (talk • contribs) 18:35, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

MMacClark -- Re paywalled or offline sources, those are fine. Re sources to Rhodes' site/books/etc, those do not help to establish notability so I would omit them almost entirely for now. Works by Rhodes published in journals also do not help to establish notability. (Sometimes if an author has a high h-index it can be an indication of notability, but that standing alone is normally insufficient -- and Rhodes is nowhere near the ballpark we're talking about, i.e. minimum double digits.) If all that exists about effective intelligence is in those very few references you have cited, it is probably not notable and probably does not qualify for a Wikipedia article. I'm not sure investing more time in drafting this article will be worth your while. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:12, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Calliope. I guess I'm sure of the subject's notability, notwithstanding the lack of linkable citations. I'm looking at the wiki entry for DISC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DISC_assessment which is likely better known than Effective Intelligence, and yet it contains fewer citations and references, and of lesser independence than the citations and references I'm providing for Effective Intelligence. I don't understand how it warrants a pass, and EI doesn't. I'm not being obstreperous, just looking for clarity. Thanks for continuing the conversation, M. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MMacClark (talk • contribs) 17:50, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Please see WP:OTHERSTUFF. Maybe DISC should be deleted too, but no one has gotten around to it yet... Notability is synonymous with editors' ability to provide suitable citations. If what you have cited so far is the best there is, the article is unlikely to be approved, and if approved is likely to be nominated for deletion. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:23, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Bird name capitalization

Hello, I saw one of your recent edits, looked at your recent contributions, and see that we are doing similar things. I'm going through groups of birds, right now Charadriiformes, looking for links that redirect through the old capitalization and fixing them using AWB. If you are interested, I'd be willing to share the AWB file that helps me make the corrections. Also I'm wondering if you know anyone else who's working on this, and if there would be any benefit in coordinating; at least not duplicating. Either way, it's good to know someone else is working on the same thing and thank you.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  00:59, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

SchreiberBike, I'm working intermittently doing the same thing, using the list User:Calliopejen1/Bird caps. I don't know of anyone else working on this, though it's definitely possibe! Would you like to check off what you have done so far so that I don't end up covering the same territory? How exactly are you using AWB to help your review? Just to find targets to fix, and then fixing them mostly manually? Or do you somehow have a script that fixes wrong capitalization throughout an article? I don't know of anyone else doing these sorts of edits.... Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:34, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
I'll look at your page and see how I can record what I've done there; my notes are less systematic at User:SchreiberBike/Workspace/Bird names. Using AWB, I've set up a list of over 2000 search and replace rules which looks for capitalized species name words and replaces them with lower case. For instance right now I'm working on Great Auk; it finds each instance of "Great" and changes it to "great" and "Auk" to "auk". It would also pick up "Great Britain" and many others, but I've written rules to work around them. It does still pick up "Great Gold Robbery" and turns it into "great gold Robbery" (since "Gold" also has a rule), but it is very easy to undo the automatic changes in AWB before they are saved. I'd guess that it gives more false positives than real corrections, but undoing them is quick, and it catches nearly all of the real problems. I do find new problems to add to the list though, e.g., your correction of "Nothura" that I saw recently. I think it makes me much faster, and I've expanded to try to cover all species' common names. Like any automation, it's got to be used carefully and I've made a few messy errors. If you are interested in trying AWB, I'd be happy to share.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  19:40, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
SchreiberBike -- sure, I could give it a try. I'm not sure how AWB files are formatted -- is this something you'd share by email? My email is linked at "Email this user". Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:43, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
SchreiberBike Another thing I've noticed is that articles that incorrectly capitalize birds also incorrectly capitalize animals and plants. Is this something your script captures, or are you fixing these manually? Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:45, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I'm trying to cover all species' common names, but I still do many rarer plants manually. I'll send you an e-mail through the system, then if you reply to my address I'll be able to send you the file. User:Julia W initially send me a file to use in AWB to work on the "List of birds of ..." series where it only needed to pick up the second word in a name and I've expanded it from there.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  20:02, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
File sent. Since I'm already using an automated tool, I've added some of my other pet peeves to the search and replace list. Most of them are at the top of the list, so they can easily be removed. To exclude false positives, I go through a process where I first rename, for example, "Great Britain" to "G!!reat Britain", then change all the other "Great"s to lower case and then change "G!!reat Britain" back. For that reason, the order of the list has to stay pretty much the same. I suspect there are quirks to the list that I'm not aware of, but I'm happy to answer questions.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  20:17, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't know how to write things like this, so maybe I'll make a running list of suggested revisions and send it to you periodically for you to incorporate if you'd like. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:15, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
That makes sense, but it's not too hard. If you go to "Options"/"Normal settings" you can see all the rules. It's lots of simple rules that all together make something complex. As I've done some more edits this afternoon, I'm seeing that sometimes there are a lot more false positives than real fixes. I hope that doesn't make it too confusing.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  21:28, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
I've made a bunch of marks at User:Calliopejen1/Bird caps indicating what I've done. If I've messed up any of your formatting feel free to fix or let me know. As I start on something I'll mark it as "working" and later "done" so we don't overlap. Thanks,  SchreiberBike | ⌨  19:25, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
I can't help it. When you said mammal caps, something like this comes to mind. Keep up the good work.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  23:38, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

13:03:32, 26 May 2015 review of submission by ENVS6178



Hello,

Thank you for taking the time to review my article Bill C-634: Canadian Environmental Bill of Rights. I wanted to let you know that I will be updating and reviewing my article using your comments but I do not feel that news coverage necessarily dictates notability. Bill C-634 has actually passed the second reading within the Canadian House of Commons which notes that members debated the bills principles and decided that the bill meet the Canadian public needs and that the ideas were sound. This is turn makes the Bill more significant than a "run-of-the-mill legislative proposal going nowhere" as you commented on.

I would argue that where pieces of legislation are considered the process and intent behind them is just as significant as the media coverage they receive. Especially for students of the law, policy and environment within Canada. This is why I will be reviewing my work and resubmitting it soon.

Thank you again for your help and have a wonderful day. ENVS6178 (talk) 13:03, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

ENVS6178 Please read WP:GNG. Coverage by reliable sources (which in the case of proposed legislation would be newspapers) is the be-all-end-all of notability here on Wikipedia. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:03, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

18:23:00, 20 May 2015 review of submission by JenniferTyler1


JenniferTyler1 (talk) 18:23, 20 May 2015 (UTC) Hello Calliopejen1,

Thank you for your review and critique. I have trimmed the fat of the article to the bare bones that are backed up by the sources. I had composed the article based in part on the subject's LinkedIn bio trimming out the parts that are not supported by the sources.

In the edit I have tried to avoid sounding like an advertisement and have highlighted what is important about the subject. As a music executive, he was the man behind some of the biggest record holding albums and global celebrities (Beyonce') that we know today. As we can see he has also created a successful deal and product with Cohiba Cigars and Jay-Z.

Many of these types of subjects are very silent and do not seek attention, which is why I like and decided to pick such a person. My research has shown me that one would have to be at a very high level within the music business or cannabis industry to come into contact or do business with one of these subjects. For instance, Clive Calder may be the most successful record label owner in the history of music (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Calder) but his Wiki entry is scant when compared to contemporaries David Geffen or Jimmy Iovine. Partly because until he sold to BMG, he did not seek the spotlight and therefore very little written about this powerful man, yet the world knew about the artist he spawned (Will Smith, Britney Spears, N'Sync, The Backstreet Boys, R. Kelly).

I decided to try to encapsulate another important figure before he dies or has reached the lexicon. I believe it is an injustice that only the stories of those who seek the media are being told in Wikipedia. I ask that you please review the changes made and reconsider.

Cheers,

JT

The sources don't support the claims you're making here about Wright's importance. Wikipedia judges notability by coverage in reliable, independent sources and doesn't make special allowances for people who "do not seek attention". I really don't see a valid claim to notability here but leave the final judgment to another reviewer. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:52, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your re-edit... I now understand how it should be written. Also, thank you for your impartiality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JenniferTyler1 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

In my research post resubmission, I have come across multiple pages on Wikipedia of artist such as flykingi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flykingi)that have extensive Wiki articles, sketchy sources and have not done .1% that my subject matter has in their given industry. I am asking for clarity as to the standard of significance/criteria for a Wikipedia article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JenniferTyler1 (talk • contribs) 20:53, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

@JenniferTyler1: I recommend reading WP:OTHERCRAP (why it's not helpful to point to other crappy articles) and WP:GNG (the rules about notability, i.e. who qualifies for an article). Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:16, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

04:38:05, 28 May 2015 review of submission by Kunal.v.v


Dear Calliopejen1, this is regarding my article about an Indian Fashion Designer. The subject is notable because she has been there in the industry for a decade now as a quite worker, working away from limelight. All the references made gives impression of notability and being notable. There is very limited references as she been not at all in limelight. some people makes effect and work for society being an unknown that doesn't mean they aren't notable. Kunal.v.v (talk) 04:38, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Kunal.v.v, Wikipedia judges notability by coverage in reliable sources. A person who is a "quiet worker" and does not receive press coverage simply does not qualify for a Wikipedia article. I see you have resubmitted the article for review without improving the referencing. I can all but guarantee that the next reviewer will decline your article as well. Nayyar needs to first employ a PR person to get some news coverage, and I recommend reworking the article a year or two from now. Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Columbian mammoth


The Signpost: 03 June 2015

Ray Whitley

Hi Jen I have raked through the internet with the finest of tooth combs and found several new sources for information about Ray Whitley. A question for you, I have an email from a friend of Whitleys who knows Rays sister. Am I able to use this information or is it strictly only usable if its from a website? One other question I have is hopefully when the article is accepted I need to somehow make a difference between the two people with the same name. I believe it's a Disambiguation but not sure of how to go about it, or if it is myself that does it, or someone in higher control at Wiki. Also I would like to use a picture[1] I have found on the internet but not sure who has the copyright or how to go about aquiring permission. Maybe I'll just hold on a while... Thanks for your help. Tim Artofwork (talk) 17:23, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

@Artofwork: It looks like there should be enough there to write an article, though the article may have to be somewhat more bare-bones than what is there already. I'm working on some cleanup now. You can't use a non-published email because of Wikipedia's policies about original research and verifiability. Note that not all sources need to be "from a website" -- e.g. a published book that isn't online could also be a source, or a newspaper article from the 1960s or 1970s that hasn't been digitized. Regarding disambiguation, I can help you with that once the page is live. Finally, re: the picture issue, it's fairly complicated. Given that you have that email, could you contact a member of Whitley's family for a photo? That would be the best method. They would have to release a photo of Whitley under a free license, meaning that anyone (not just Wikipedia) could use it. See this page for more information about media donations. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:56, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
@Artofwork: Do you have a better source for him being inducted into the Georgia Music Hall of Fame? The problem is I'm not sure how we can tell that it's not the other (more famous) Ray Whitley that was inducted. That 45cat website doesn't look reliable, and the death notice placed by his family isn't a great source either. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:06, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
@Artofwork: Nevermind, I found something! Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:19, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Jen I appreciate your hard work in untangling the two Rays. I'm sure he can rest in peace now. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artofwork (talk • contribs) 18:48, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Draft Article of James A Bushnell

I do not know why the draft is still there because the article has been published for some time now. You can delete the draft then. 50.202.219.2 (talk) 21:52, 8 June 2015 (UTC)Tim Bergquist

The Signpost: 10 June 2015

Your submission at Articles for creation: Equisetum californicum has been accepted

Equisetum californicum, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!

Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:05, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Sterling/Winters Page

Hey Jen, can you help me understand why this new page is marked for deletion? I'd appreciate your mentorship. Thanks.

Borntodeal (talk) 21:32, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I'd like to delete the Sterling/Winters page so that I can research and prepare content that won't have the deletion notice. What's the process for deleting?

Borntodeal (talk) 03:23, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

I've moved it back to draft space for you at Draft:The Sterling Winters Company. It's not up for deletion anymore. It cannot stay in draft space indefinitely (by default, pages are deleted after six months), so please try to improve it in the near future. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:27, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Kataxu

It's too difficult for me to create an article about Kataxu. I'm french and my english is bad. I prefer drop the article. So much for that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Telchar2 (talk • contribs) 15:03, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Telchar2 -- if you would prefer to write in French, you can contribute at http://fr.wikipedia.org. You may have the same problems if there are not more reliable sources on this topic, however. Note that (as far as I know) it is fine to use English-language sources for the French Wikipedia. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:28, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

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CAFAM edit-a-thon canceled

Just wanted to be sure everyone saw the message on this. The Craft and Folk Art Museum canceled due to some issues with their WIFi that we weren't able to get around. I'll try to work something up for July. Sorry about that! At least it's a lovely, sunny day—hope you enjoy it! StaceyEOB (talk) 16:35, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

5th Annual Wiknic

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Edit summaries, etc

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Panama

You're good with excel. Any chance you could use this to generate stubs for all of the Corregimientos of Panama? I asked Acorterion to import this from Spanish wiki.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:51, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld, I'll work on this. It may take a little while -- check back with me in a week or so if I haven't replied. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:06, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
tThe best way I think would be to put on excel and then get a set format like xxx is a village and corregimiento of xxx Province, Panama. As of 2010 it had a population of ddd, and covered an area of xxxx km2. Then simply start them all feeding off the common data. That could be done fairly quickly I think!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:22, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Blofeld, The problem is that there isn't a one fact per column format so it will take some manual reformatting to get to a good starting point. And then there are inconsistencies in the data e.g. some have historical population data and some do not, some have provinces and some have comarcas, etc etc. I can get there but it will take a bit of doing. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:49, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Blofeld, I've made a good start. What categories should each of the corregimientos be filed under? Corregimientos of X (either Panama, District, or Province), and that's enough? Should Category:Corregimientos of Panama be broken down by province or district? FYI, there are 631 corregimientos, ~69 districts, and 12 provinces/comarcas. Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:37, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Blofeld -- for your review, a few samples! User:Calliopejen1/Panama QC. Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:27, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Perfect! I think Category:Corregimientos of xxx Province would work better and then a Category:Populated places by district. I think ones like Miramar, Bocas del Toro should be restarted. We seem to have provincial templates for the corregs anyway.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:55, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Blofeld -- The first 100 articles are one after the other at User:Calliopejen1/Panama QC. Let me know when you're finished with them so I can put up the next batch for you (it's too big a page size to save all at once). Or let me know if you'd prefer me to send you the Excel file, or whatever. You'll have to start categories (and maybe some navboxes) as you go. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:49, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Oh and about the ones that exist currently, some of them are better than what I've got, and some are worse. Most at least have coordinates for the places, which my articles don't have. And be careful with the two comarcas that are at the corregimiento level -- Kuna de Wargandí and Kuna de Madungandí. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:51, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
That's great, thanks, will start when I have more energy!♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:58, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld -- Cool. I see you've done a few. Based on your work, I just redid the articles to include the panama-geo-stub template. I was also thinking of eliminating latm/lats/latNS/longm/longs/longEW (currently blank rows) from the infobox because I normally just use decimal cords pulled from Google maps. Thoughts? I think you'll be doing most of these, and not sure what your standard operating procedure is. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:23, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Well you could add {coord missing|Panama} and Anome will take care of that later I suppose. Keep the parameters as they are, I never use decimal in infoboxes. Next month I won't have so many entries for the Intertrans project so I should be able to focus more on that.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:48, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Blofeld -- Done. BTW before we start on Panama province, we'll need to sort out those entries between Panama and Panama Oeste (a new province that was created after the last census -- see es:Provincia de Panamá Oeste). I'm also looking into whether there's an easy way for me to include interwiki links in my generic articles... will keep you posted. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:17, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for creating a few of them!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:34, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

First batch done. Can you check Kuna de Wargandí, doesn't seem right. It's an independent comarca/province. Is there another one of the same name in Darien Province? Should be separate I'd guess, can you sort it out?♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:34, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld -- I added a new batch for you. Kuna de Wargandí is actually right -- there are three comarcas that are province-level, and two that are corregimiento-level inside other provinces (including Kuna de Wargandí). Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:37, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Sorry I've been rather sidetracked, will try to get the Panama ones finished this week. Finished the last lot, but there still seems to be a missing one in Template:Panama Province . Where are we now, about half way?♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:44, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
I don't think that's actually a corregimiento. See the Spanish article -- the city (the capital) is a district, and its subdivisions are corregimientos. I think that it's included in the template because it's the capital, not because it's a corregimiento. That happened to me once in Panama Oeste Province. We may want to redirect the link in the template to a combined city/district article like es.wiki has done. We're about 60% done I think -- I'll put some more up a bit later. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Blofeld -- New batch ready for creation! Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:27, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Will continue tomorrow, just making a start on sorting out the French building stubs. Considering how many departments rather a large task!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:39, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Thine Antique Pen created the last batch, next lot :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:31, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld, Thine Antique Pen -- just posted a new batch. For these, it looks like we are currently missing the comarca (=province) templates, the articles on many or all districts, and the categories. So that should probably be sorted before or at the same time as posting these articles! Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:07, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

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I see you're doing a lot of Template:AfC postpone G13 but remember that the template should be included as {{AfC postpone G13|1}} so that it shows up at Category:AfC postponed G13 with the number of post-postponements and not just {. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:32, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

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Theopolisme -- I think you're who would look into this? Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:41, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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I may be able to return to this later, but I started reading and got bored because evangelism is probably one of my least favorite topics to read about. One comment I have is that the "ideology" section (and perhaps other bits of the article) seems a little "in-universe" -- e.g. "JC's Girls connects female sex workers with churches the organization believes to be non-judgmental,[5] hoping that the women will experience the love of Christ through these churches". This is written as though "the love of Christ" is a thing that uncontroversially exists in the world. Overall, it doesn't seem too bad, and I might be able to lend my support but I'd have to set aside some time later to come back to it and think about it more thoroughly. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:41, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

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@LLRungegordon: -- Sure, I'd be happy to help. Do you have a page somewhere with the event information for me to start from? Time, date, place, theme of editathon, suggested worklist, etc.? Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I just created it. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Aphra_Behn_Society_Editathon LLRungegordon (talk) 21:42, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
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Finally at Good article review. Any assistance in responding to the review would be appreciated. Where are we on the Panama stubs? I thought I left it to Thine to complete.♦ Dr. Blofeld 05:21, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld -- Hmm. Maybe I'll be able to help. If I recall from when I was working on it, much of my work (which I thought was much better than what existed -- good sourcing etc.) was quickly removed by others, so I'm not sure I care to invest much time in that article. Re Panama, I posted more stubs here and it has kind of stalled. Now we are just needing to finish up the comarcas. They don't have templates yet, though, so those likely need to be created before the stubs can be. Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:10, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about the stalling, I though Thine Antique Pen was finishing them off. I guess I'll do the remainder myself.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:59, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

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Why did you revert my edit? Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:39, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

There was no option when I did the revert, or I would have stated that, although I appreciate the effort you put into finding that image, it is no where near as good as the one you replaced. It pretty much makes Cooley look like a goofball, is cluttered with parts of whatever the whole was being used to portray, and is basically a head shot pasted on a cartoonish image. Perhaps that page from Billboard could be used to demonstrate Cooley's popularity somewhere else in the article. Cooley was an important figure in his prime, and the up front image of him should reflect that.Steve Pastor (talk) 22:10, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

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Hi there Calliopejen1, I'm just wondering why this article was declined when the one relating to David Quinn (artist) from Mayo wasn't. There are no references on that page. Kind regards, Cinemaclosed Cinemaclosed (talk) 08:11, 20 October 2015 (UTC

please see WP:OTHERSTUFF. Perhaps that article should be deleted but no one has gotten to it yet. better to compare your article to the criteria than to other articles. Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:02, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hello Calliopejen1, as you can see, I am pretty new to Wikipedia, so perhaps I need some help :-). You rejected the article because of missing reliable references, if I understood correctly. Well, Andy is referenced on the Wikipedia article of sweet, so should I reference this article into his page? Would that be enough? Would it be also ok, if I add some more references to the record, he published with his band? Regards Thomas Thillerbrand (talk) 05:47, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

No, citing another Wikipedia page is not useful (WP is not a reliable source). Re citations discussing his work with the band, those probably won't be helpful either-- see the note after #12 of Criteria for musicians and ensembles at WP:MUSIC. Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:05, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Calliopejen1, I have concerns regarding the Admiral Markets article which was declined for lack of reliable sources. I have looked at other articles in the same industry and mentioned the sources accordingly. So it seems a bit unclear as to which sources are not reliable. It would be very helpful if you could please point out which sources needs to be changed so that I can fix those. I will be eagerly waiting for your reply. Thanks.

I declined the article for lack of notability. If the only attention the company has garnered in third party sources is four articles at financemagnates.com and one article at leaprate.com, I don't think the company is significant enough for a Wikipedia article. I would recommend reading WP:OTHERSTUFF because sometimes other Wikipedia articles are poor models. If you disagree with my assessment, I would recommend posting at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Finance or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Business to get a second opinion. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

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@Fraenir: See Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive230#Draft:Manuel_Antonio_Vidal_Pego -- no one responded, unfortunately... Might make sense to repost? Calliopejen1 (talk) 04:29, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

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I am unsure what needs to be done for the article to be accepted. Please could you be more specific about what needs to be changed?

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@Epg2015: To be frank, I'm not sure this organization qualifies for an article (no matter how it is written) -- see WP:ORG and WP:GNG. But if you would like to keep trying, I would recommend finding only the highest-quality five sources about the organization and removing all other sources/references from the article. The best sources = sources that are independent of the organization and discuss it in some depth (typically this would be newspaper articles). Then rewrite the article using ONLY what those sources can support. Delete all content referenced to the organization's own website and to sources affiliated with the organization. Please also read WP:PSCOI if you are affiliated with the organization (disclosure of your affiliation would be required if applicable). Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:23, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you for approving the article. It said it would be several weeks to be approved, so I made one too by accident, but with a slightly different name (TV series). Can you erase it? Also, do you know why my first edits were "not constructive"? I fixed some typos and they got changed back. I asked that person but they did not answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YL4604 (talk • contribs) 15:34, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

@YL4604: I fixed the duplicate articles. Re the not constructive notice, maybe that editor was referring to this edit? I think it was probably a mistake that this got saved. I'll check and make sure the typos you spotted get fixed again if your fixes were undone. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:37, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
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I did read through. I'm not using any special tool for deletions (I just pressed delete). I'll write a close rationale now. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:20, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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Done. Sorry, didn't understand that was an additional nomination. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:20, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

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@Calliopejen: Well then in that case I dont know how to proceed?? I dont think this information on where Wikipedia's servers are situated and the implications you are suggesting has ever been clear to users from the rest of the planet. I would urge someone, anyone to place some clearer signage up in this regard. ??????????????????
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Bowman, D. M. J. S.; Balch, J. K.; Artaxo, P.; Bond, W. J.; Carlson, J. M.; Cochrane, M. A.; d'Antonio, C. M.; Defries, R. S.; Doyle, J. C.; Harrison, S. P.; Johnston, F. H.; Keeley, J. E.; Krawchuk, M. A.; Kull, C. A.; Marston, J. B.; Moritz, M. A.; Prentice, I. C.; Roos, C. I.; Scott, A. C.; Swetnam, T. W.; Van Der Werf, G. R.; Pyne, S. J. (2009). "Fire in the Earth system". Science 324 (5926): 481–4. Bibcode:2009Sci...324..481B. doi:10.1126/science.1163886. PMID 19390038. Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "Bowman2009" defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). Neptune's Trident (talk) 06:32, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

@Neptune's Trident: I fixed it for you. The page was transcluding Template:Origin of fire which is apparently reused in multiple articles. That bit of text had Bowman2009 defined differently. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:45, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

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@Doc James: Yeah, I realized just after clicking save (which is why there is this edit one minute later). Calliopejen1 (talk) 04:35, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Calliopejen1,

You were the online ambassador for my Environmental Law course a couple of years ago. I am teaching it again this semester and was wondering if you would be willing to take a look at some of my student's articles? They have just gone live and we'll be meeting to talk about them this Saturday. It is really useful for them to know that there are Wikipedia editors out there paying attention to what they are doing.

The articles can be found here. In any case, many thanks for all your help in the past. Aaron Aarf613 (talk) 21:45, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

I'll leave a few notes on the talk pages as I'm able! Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:51, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

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You're welcome! And thank you for organizing!! Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:56, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

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@Chris troutman: Thanks! It's actually more like the anniversary of when I lost my password as User:Calliopejen and had to start over! :) But glad to have been around so long regardless. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:14, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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i found out that you have made great changes in artice Internet in Azerbaijan.So i started to translate it i decided to thank you for writing the article Aykhan463 (talk) 09:14, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

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I have the license of my content I created on Teachers' Resource Centre as prior notice. Kindly bring the page back ASAP — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftab222000 (talk • contribs) 22:34, 17 May 2017 (UTC) Hey Don't warn me about what em doing, also my article is on review not in publishing process and you delete it without any comment on it. This is not fair and you wasted my efforts.Aftab222000 (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment added 22:49, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for save me wasting my time and deleted my efforts. I will go through the process and publish my article ASAP. “The purpose of life is not to be happy. It is to be useful, to be honorable, to be compassionate, to have it make some difference that you have lived and lived well.” Good luck and Bye. Aftab222000 (talk • contribs)Syed Muhammad Aftab 23:08, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Joe B. Jackson

The entry for Joe B. Jackson, which you cite as copyright infringement based on http://www.claybourn.org/mary-e-clayborn.html, uses some text from website which I own, created, and run. The text is used with my full and complete permission. To help make it even clearer for you, I will remove the copyright footer from the Claybourn.org page later this evening. Any claims to copyright for that material is fully permitted and released, so there is no copyright violation. As for past allegations of violations from User:Diannaa, you'll find that her concerns were the exact same -- erroneous claims that my previously authorized material was used in violation, when in fact it had my full permission. To help make things clearer for Diannaa, the footer was removed there as well and the matter was resolved.--YHoshua (talk) 18:17, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

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Reverted recent deletion from article on Consumer behaviour

You recently reverted two long passages from an article on Consumer behaviour. Your reversion was accompanied by the edit summary "remove content added by User:Grochim that was probably copied from a printed source. do not restore without rewriting from scratch." The use of the term "probably" suggests that you are uncertain about the content's origin. I do not think that it is appropriate to delete content based on a hunch or a speculation. I have performed a basic search for this content using Google, and it does not come up in sources, other than those who are copying the Wikipedia' content (such as Coursehero.com and Wikivisually. This suggests that the relevant content was actually developed by a Wikipedia user. I have worked extensively on this article, and when I see content that I suspect to be cut and paste, I either report it (for lengthy sections) or paraphrase it. In all the time I was working on this article, I never had a problem with the passages you reverted as they are very general in charater and refer to the black box concept which is well-known and canvassed in virtually every introductory marketing/consumer behaviour text-book. Accordingly, I have reverted your reversion. BronHiggs (talk) 21:29, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

@BronHiggs: Some of the content added by Grochim was in fact copied from the printed source cited, which I should have mentioned. And there is a good chance that the remainder of the content was copied. In virtually every instance where we have been able to compare his contributions against the source text, they were copied verbatim or essentially verbatim. (And he usually worked from printed sources, not from websites -- so searching for the content in Google will not necessarily reveal the copyright violation.) It looks like you didn't actually restore the content, but I feel strongly that the content should not be restored. Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:17, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
One other comment: even though the concept may be very general, it would still be inappropriate to use another author's previously published explanation of the concept here, as I'm sure you understand. Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:19, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
@Calliopejen1: You are still alluding to a published source, but not naming it. I think users should be given the benefit of the doubt. To make an allegation of plagiarism is a very serious matter. If you have evidence that it has been plagiarised, then this should be noted - either in the edit summary or on the talk page. But is is not appropriate to make these types of allegations without producing evidence nor to qualify these types of assertions with "probably". If my previous attempt to revert the content was unsuccessful, I will try again. BronHiggs (talk) 23:02, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
@BronHiggs: It is the source cited in the text itself that is copied! See here. And you can see the user's extensive history of copying at this link and in the discussions on his talk page. Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:05, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
@BronHiggs: On second thought, I have changed my mind. Though some of the original edit was in fact copied verbatim from that source, the content that remains has either been transformed or was so littered with typos to begin with that I think it was Grochim's original contribution. Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:11, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
@Calliopejen1: Noted, with thanks. BronHiggs (talk) 03:04, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

I think I understand how you helped me on the side effects of penicillin, but I am still not sure what I did wrong and how not to do it again. I have been having difficulties in referencing govt. sources. Sometimes I tend to leave a whole trail of wreckage behind me when I am deep into developing content. If it weren't for editors like you to help correct my blunders I surely would have been blocked by now. I am especially grateful for your total rewording of the content.

The Very Best of Regards,
Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 19:31, 19 May 2017 (UTC), Barbara Page

@Barbara (WVS): This issue is a little tricky because the content came from a government website (which says that it is public domain) but here the government is actually hosting content created by a third-party. Though the government approves (and has input into) drug labels, the copyright for those labels belongs to the drug companies. I know something about the label-writing process from outside Wikipedia. Anyways, it's just a matter of thinking whether content hosted at a government webpage was actually created by the government. Generally it is, so there is no problem--but this was an exception. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:37, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Is it okay for me to contact you if I have a future question on this?
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Contribution to a CopyVio Investigation that was closed five months ago

It is unclear why you felt the need to comment on a copvio investigation that was concluded five months ago. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2016_November_20#20_November_2016) Just to clarify, the discussion in the copyvio complaint proceeded as follows:

1. I placed a copyvio notice on the article, History of marketing, on 18 November, 2016.
2. An unknown editor appears to have removed that notice on or around 19 November, 2016.
3. On 20 November, 2016 I reinstated the copyvio notice.
4. The allegation was investigated by an administrator and on the 13 February, 2017 the outcome was posted. The admin found that the content in question was "backwards copy" (i.e. the source in question had copied the relevant content from wikipedia and not the other way around) and that there was "no cause for concern.
5. After the initial investigation concluded, the copyvio notice should have been removed at this juncture.
6. On 26 March, 2017, a different administrator, who incidentially is a WP editor in residence specialising in identifying plagiarism, cleaned up the content in question by paraphrasing it and noted that there was "no remaining infringement"
7. That should have been the end of the investigation and the application of any solutions as required.
8. Two months after the content was cleaned, and five months after the investigation was concluded, you decide to add to the discussion by noting that something, probably the copyvio notice, was "apparently removed by Bronhiggs [me]." [From the context, it is not entirely clear whether you are alleging that I removed the content or the copyvio notice]

Are you trying to intimate that I removed the copyvio notice before the investigation reached a decision? Do you have the diffs to show when and who removed the notice? If so, why not include them in your commentary? I do not understand why it matters who removed the copyvio notice in relation to an investigation that had been concluded some five months earlier and which explicitly found 'no cause for concern'? It seems like too much of a coincidence that you would want to look into old copvio investigations just a day after we had a debate about some content on the Consumer behaviour article in which you alleged plagiarism, without providing any supporting evidence. Now, why would you want to add this type of commentary to a closed investigation, unless you are trying to make some kind of mischief? BronHiggs (talk) 00:15, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

@BronHiggs: I was noting that you removed the copyright violation. Without a notation for each article under discussion, the day can't be cleared from the backlog. (The investigation wasn't "closed" at the WP:CP page, which was preventing that day from getting archived.) I was giving you credit, nothing more. Then I archived that day's log. I have been working on various copyright cleanup issues. One was the User:Grochim cleanup at WP:CCI. Another was the backlog at WP:CP. Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:25, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
@Calliopejen1: The revision history for the page Marketing is somewhat confused as the copyvio tag was added and deleted several times over. In addition, a separate copyvio investigation was mounted for the same article around the same time that I placed my original notice about copyvios. However, I am quite certain that I did not take the notice down. The page editing history shows that the notice was on the page on 18 February, 2017 at 9.16 when Justlettersandnumbers made an edit. (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marketing&diff=prev&oldid=766127733) The notice had disappeared by 11.21 on the same day when Trappist the monk made an edit. (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marketing&diff=next&oldid=766127733). Neither edit summary mentions removing the notice, so I cannot say which of them deleted the notice. I have made very few edits to the Marketing page since I started editing on Wikipedia. In my very first few days editing marketing/advertising articles, I made a valiant effort to correct some misinformation on that page but was informed by another editor, who reverted everything I had added, that "some content just doesn't belong on Wikipedia." I also noticed that this same editor reverts most new contributions to this article and continues to do so. At that point, I decided that editing this article was simply a waste of my time and have since occupied my time eiting "low importance" and/or "stub" articles that are not so heavily patrolled and do not have editors exhibiting ownership type behaviours. Having said that, I was aware of the copyright issues on the Marketing article from the beginning of my WP career, it just took me a month or so to figure out the process for bringing these matters to Admin's attention. After that, I was content to let Admin handle the matter. It was not up to me to decide when the issue was closed, but it was clear from comments, made by the investigators on the article's talk page, that the investigation had concluded.I apologise if this seems to be carping, but there are so many bullies on Wikipedia, and many would love to seize on this sort of thing to point the finger. So, I am concerned that I will subsequently be accused of taking down a copyvio notice without the proper authorisation or some other perceived crime. BronHiggs (talk) 08:32, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
@BronHiggs: I agree that the revision history was somewhat confused but from my brief review it looked to me that you resolved the issue. All I was doing was noting that the issue had been resolved so that the day's worth of copyright violation to-dos could be archived. There is not really a formal process for an "investigation"--just a page where issues are listed and interested editors can help out. So even if you were the one who removed the tag there is no problem with this -- to the best of my understanding, the tag can be removed when the offending text is removed. There is no "perceived crime" here. Calliopejen1 (talk) 04:24, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
@Calliopejen1: OK, thanks. I am being paranoid, but there is a little group of editors following me around, deleting many contributions and making snide comments on various talk pages - so please forgive me if I am being overly cautious to avoid any trouble. BronHiggs (talk) 04:40, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

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SPI over Khashayar Farzam

Hi, just wanted to let you know that I've opened an investigation at SPI over the unusual editing going on at Khashayar Farzam and its AFD discussion. Feel free to comment if there's anything you wanted to add! RA0808 talkcontribs 19:06, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

A breath of fresh air

… has blown through WP:CCI and WP:CP – thank you so much for all the cleaning and tidying and resolving you've done there, it's made a real dent in the appalling backlog(s). I've re-added the copyvio template to [:Vanessa Beecroft]], as there seems to be yet more to be dealt with there – I'll try to resolve that today if i can. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:45, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

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CCI notification

I am working on Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Corkythehornetfan

I don't see evidence that the subject has been contacted. I would have guessed this was required. I started to contact the subject about a question, and the subject was away at the time, but has now returned to editing. I would like to discuss this CCI with the editor, but I'd like to know whether they know about it.--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:13, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) I think so, Sphilbrick, though perhaps there hasn't been a recent reminder (I think the user dislikes talk-page notices and quickly removes them). My notification here was quite a while ago. From what I recall, he/she was helpful and willing to assist with clean-up.
In general, I think a notification that a CCI has actually been opened is a pretty good idea, especially if there's ever going to be another backlog like the one Calliopejen1 has just taken an axe to. As far as I can see in Category:CCI templates and Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Instructions, we don't have such a thing. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:36, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
When it may not be a big deal, I'm trying to sort out some timing issues. The CCI was created in 23 May of this year. I'm aware that the editor removes talk page notices but I naïvely thought I could start working after 23 May. I now see your edit in November 2015. I'm well aware that our volunteers in copyright areas are limited relative to the need, so I'm not casting any aspersions if it really took a year and a half to create the CCI after the request but I just want to make sure that I'm not missing anything.
While it may not be a big deal, I'm trying to sort out some timing issues. The CCI was created in 23 May of this year. I'm aware that the editor removes talk page notices but I naïvely thought I could start working after 23 May. I now see your edit in November 2015. I'm well aware that our volunteers in copyright areas are limited relative to the need, so I'm not casting any aspersions if it really took a year and a half to create the CCI after the request but I just want to make sure that I'm not missing anything. My goal is to have a discussion about how the editor may help in this review — you've suggested that they have indicated willingness, but I didn't want to find out that I had missed an extensive discussion.
My current understanding — you (Justlettersandnumbers) identified a need for a CCI in November 2015. You notified the editor at that time. A number of such requests languished until Calliopejen1 cleaned out a backlog recently.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:00, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
That sounds right. I opened a ton of CCIs in succession recently and don't think I re-notified anyone. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:23, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that you needed to, I just want to open a conversation with the editor and I wanted to make sure I understood what type of communication has already occurred.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:27, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

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ANI post-mortem

Hi, Calliopejen1, I'd like to get some feedback and advice from you about ANI procedures generally and also your thoughts about what happened in the ANI case you raised about a user's massive template moves.

Although the thread at ANI which went absolutely nowhere isn't completely dead yet, it's moribund and likely will be dead by the time you read this. I was quite disappointed with the way it ended up, which is to say stillborn, and not because of "win/lose" because I really do believe in consensus even if it goes against my PoV, but rather because I thought that ANI was a place to raise such questions, and that we would get a lively discussion going among admins who would weigh in, possibly with numerous different angles to consider. But after a brief initial flurry of support, there was vociferous opposition from one corner (plus the understandable and civil opposition from the person whose behavior was being questioned), and the hoped-for discussion among multiple admins never really happened, because they never showed up. Instead, we had a duopoly dialog involving myself and one other involved editor which got stuck in a tar-field of strife based largely on factually erroneous claims not germane to your original post, but which managed to effectively derail the discussion.

The ANI thread (which I likely would have started a day or two later, had you not done so) asked for two remedies: a "knock it off" warning, which presumably you would have issued yourself had you not been involved, and a question on how to undo the changes. This almost seemed pro forma to me, and I awaited the scramble of uninvolved admins to jump in and do what was needed. Instead, after the brief flurry of support, crickets on the original topic, and lots of derailing.

In the run-up prior to Rfc and ANI, I feel like I hewed to all the guideline-approved behaviors: I only reverted the user's anti-consensus doc change once, allowing his willingness to edit war about it to install his favored version in the doc which was then referenced in the ANI as "consensus"; I made numerous pleas on his talk page to stop his behavior, rather than trying to massively undo it, which was alluded to at the ANI as WP:SILENCE and thus the new consensus; and finally, engaging in good faith in the ANI thread about the behavior itself, which when not being derailed was attacked as revenge-based and bloodthirsty (not by the unfailingly polite and civil editor whose behavior was the subject of the thread). This seems to lead inexorably to the lesson, "If you have a passion for a PoV in some relatively unwatched corner of the encyclopedia, alter the doc to suit, edit war to keep it, stay calm in discussions, and then just go for your desired change, and go for it massively."

What happened here? Was it just apathy on the part of other admins, or are they just busy with other things, or suffering burnout of their own, preferring to stick to the simple NPAs and uncivil/bullying complaints? Any advice on being a succesful ANI participant, if I decide to put my toe in those waters again? I noticed that you and 3 or 4 other editors or admins supporting your view weighed in once near the top, then not again. Is there some sort of unspoken rule about this? I didn't really wish to keep popping into the thread repeatedly, but I felt unable to just let patently false claims of easily diffable history stand unchallenged, and so I kept returning. Was that a mistake? Any other sage thoughts for encouraging successful ANI outcomes in the future? Thanks for raising the ANI, and in advance for any thoughts you add here. (And if you're feeling burnt out yourself, don't feel constrained to reply here if you don't wish to.) Happy trails, Mathglot (talk) 23:31, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mathglot: To be honest, I don't participate much at ANI--I generally just do my own thing in obscure areas and don't run into much conflict. So I don't really have any advice to offer. A couple random thoughts:
  • If Ettrig had kept doing moves, I think he probably would have gotten blocked. The ANI post had the intended effect of making him stop, even if he did not formally agree to do so. This is probably what drove the lack of participation.
  • I was really amazed by TimothyJosephWood's lack of judgment. It was enough to make me take note of his name in case he does an RFA in the future. The failure to distinguish between problematic behavior and content/policy disputes was pretty bizarre.
  • Rollback doesn't require administrative tools -- it's a separate right that many people have. You probably could get rollback yourself; I don't think it's that high a bar. (But I'm not an expert in this by any means!) That may be why we didn't get any interest at ANI once it became clear that Ettrig was no longer moving templates. (Perhaps I shouldn't have raised undoing the changes at all at ANI, and just done it once a broader discussion had proceeded re the changes.)
Anyways, I agree that the administrator response wasn't what I expected. If I had come across this, I would have left Ettrig a message saying that I would block him if he moved any more pages before gaining consensus. And I would have encouraged other editors to revert the changes because they were done without consensus. But I wasn't the one who came across it because I don't hang out at ANI looking for conflict! And the problem of polite but tendentious editors is a well-known one; Ettrig is but one example... Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:55, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Your response is much appreciated, thank you very much. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 02:29, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

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Rollback issues

Hi Calliopejen1, and thanks for the rollback privilege. In looking at the current task, and why so many of the ones on the date I happened to pick (April 21: latest rev, all edits) are not rollbackable due to being one edit too late, I started examining some of them. I found there was a pattern of similar minor follow-up edits with the same edit history by a single user, EP111. Checking EP111's last 2500 edits and spot-checking some of the articles there, this doesn't appear to be abusive, and most of this user's edits, although overlapping a large number of French communes from the template move reversion list, actually go way beyond that list, and are hitting 2-5 articles per minute (none since 7/11). So I think this is likely a completely separate and unrelated activity, but it does effectively block a high percentage of the moves we're trying to undo. I suppose that means we have no recourse but manual revert for those cases? Mathglot (talk) 07:10, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

@Mathglot: Yes, agree that those edits are totally separate and legitimate, and results in the edits having to be manually undone... :( Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:01, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi again: please see this surprising and eyebrow-raising edit. I'm going to leave it as is, and assume for now that if this is the only one of its kind, it's just a hiccup. But something to keep a watchful eye on. Mathglot (talk) 02:12, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Holy shit. Now what? Mathglot (talk) 02:16, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm away, only sporadic internet. But I'm pretty sure this is a task for a bot. I looked at one of the reverts, I'd inadvertently undone the addition of an image, so it's kind of understandable. Ettrig could just have re-added that, of course. Mathglot, sorry if I messed up your workflow, I undid a couple of hundred (?) of the ones were latest edits before I saw the co-ordination page; then I did one day by hand. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 06:56, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Aha, yes the one of mine he reverted also was one where I inadvertently removed an image. I'll go fix that one. No worries on the workflow. Enjoy your awayness. Mathglot (talk) 08:10, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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Draft:Qais Ulfat

I noticed that you templated Draft:Qais Ulfat as promising. I am not going to argue about that. But did you notice that User:Faridahmadi.itp is permanently blocked as sockpuppet? Something that is quite hampering the work on this article. The Banner talk 21:18, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

I did not notice that, but that doesn't mean that another user couldn't build on what he started. (I don't know where we start getting into auto-deletion of banned user contributions, but I'm assuming that doesn't apply, or otherwise you would have mentioned it....) Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:28, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
That is okay to me. Just that you know. The Banner talk 21:41, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:41, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

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No need to tag these drafts

There's no need to tag drafts within the Missing State Supreme Court Justices project as "promising"; the subjects are inherently notable, and the drafts are being worked on constantly, if slowly, so the issue of deletion will never come up. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:07, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Draft:History of Thailand since 2001

Question: Since you were the one who applied promising draft to the above page, I'd like to hear your thoughts about redirecting the page to History of Thailand since 1973 as a reasonable approximation to encourage development of mainspace. Hasteur (talk) 19:55, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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I have closed a discussion that you initiated here. The result was a consensus to begin using the template. Cheers, Tazerdadog (talk) 22:25, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

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