User talk:Boleyn/Archive 23

Guam Adventist Academy

Thanks for the notice! That school is a K-12 school, and usually high schools or schools containing high schools are found to be notable. But I'll try to find secondary sources just to cement the article's presence. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:56, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Democratic Party (Turkey)

The "see also" section does forward it back to the general disambiguation page for all "democratic Party" entries. But normally when somebody is looking for a Turkish Democratic Party, he will not need all the parties called democratic parties all over the world, but rather the various formations named so in Turkey specifically. Thus this new arrangement is far more useful to those who are doing a search. werldwayd (talk) 16:54, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

I'd just copied another disambig page over and didn't notice the template. D'oh! Thanks for the backup! --Tenebrae (talk) 22:53, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ikuro Takahashi (disambiguation)

You recently notified me in my talk page with this sign (← shown left) and a paragraph explaining your deletion of the disambiguation page I created not long ago. However your paragraph, which I assume is some cookie-cutter thing you paste on every occasion you do this, was falsely stated in a couple of respects.

• First, you wrote it was orphaned, but obviously you did not actually check to see that I used it in a hatnote on the existing Ikuro Takahashi page. This rendered the hatnote unintelligible, since I did not give in the hatnote the specifics of who the other Ikuro Takahashi was, (and I had my own reasons for doing this)
• Secondly, although you claimed that two or fewer extant Wikipedia pages was the delete criterion, the actual criterion given in the WP:CSD#G6 was those listing only one or zero links.

I think you could have waited till I created the red-link page (which I did, here), and let the two link disambiguation page stand, which the actual WP:CSD#G6 seems to allow. I have also looked into past archived discussions in the CSD talk, and noticed that at least a couple of users have remarked on allowing such red-links to stand so it can serve as a gateway of not yet existing articles, or at least to merely replace the disambiguation with a redirect so that it isn't completely expunged off the face of wiki. --Kiyoweap (talk) 00:22, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

The template was Template:db-disambig, which gives a couple of possible reasons for deletion. It is fine is dabs are orphaned. You might also want to see WP:TWODABS. As for waiting for the second link to be created, you didn't indicate (to my recollection) in your edit summaries that you were imminently creating an article for it. The vast majority of people who add a redlink do not intend to create the article - it's great that you have done so. Redlinks are indeed useful as a gateway, and I regularly add them to disambiguation pages. However, they need to be a gateway to somewhere, by having their own article, or clearly meeting MOS:DABRL or MOS:DABMENTION. Redirecting Ikuro Takahashi (disambiguation) to Ikuro Takahashi could only mislead and confuse readers, and is not particularly helpful to editors, especially as dabs are so quick to write that it would save little time. Also creating the botanist's article still means that, as per WP:TWODABS, a hatnote is reecommended rather than a disambiguation page: If there are only two topics to which a given title might refer, and one is the primary topic, then a disambiguation page is not needed—it is sufficient to use a hatnote on the primary topic article, pointing to the other article. (This means that readers looking for the second topic are spared the extra navigational step of going through the disambiguation page.) Of course, you or someone else may feel that the botanist is at least as notable as the drummer. If someone can demonstrate that backed with evidence, then they should suggest that Ikuro Takahashi is moved to Ikuro Takahashi (musician) or Ikuro Takahashi (drummer), and then a disambiguation page would be best at the primary page - Ikuro Takahashi. I'm glad you've created the botanist's article, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 08:20, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Wermland

Thanks for the heads up about the album page. I have been searching a bit for good sources for the album. I have found a couple of reviews of the album from 3-4 newspapers. However, since the band is Swedish then the reviews are in Swedish as well of course. In addition I might provide a better personnel section based on the album's liner notes. Would adding this information to the page strengthen it's notability or would I just be wasting time by adding it? Better to know before hand... :) Sebras (talk) 20:00, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello, and thanks for looking into this. Links to Swedish reviews are fine, I think, especially as you're often given the option to translate it into English. That all sounds like enough to meet WP:NALBUMS. Any improvements to the personnel section probably wouldn't improve its claim to notability, but would improve the article, so it's definitely worth adding. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 20:45, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I'll look into this tomorrow. Maybe there are a few other articles that I have added that needs the same...

Sebras (talk) 21:55, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Done. I removed the notability template too. Let me know if you think I should improve it further somehow. Sebras (talk) 17:50, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

That looks great, well done! Boleyn (talk) 06:15, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Feats

The article Feats has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable person/character referenced in a single Old English literary work.

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Re: Flores (song)

Will do. Thanks for the heads up! Victão Lopes ^{I hear you...} 18:58, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, that's great. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 07:31, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Re: The Sound of Music (The dB's album)

Thank you for messaging me! I'm not very experienced with Wikipedia (read: had to watch a video to understand talk pages), so I'm sorry if I'm not following proper protocol. I thought that the album was notable because it was on the Billboard 200 when it was released in 1987 [1]. There aren't that many other websites that review it, but is that enough? Thanks for your understanding. --DKEdwards005 (talk) 04:41, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, no need to apologise at all. You may want to post the question of its notability at the Notability Noticeboard (WP:N/N), as I'm not nearly as experienced as those editors about what meets WP:NOTABILITY. It would also give other experienced editors the chance to look to see if they could add sources. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 08:00, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Derrick Morris

You know, I hadn't seen or thought about that article in years. That was in the good old days when we didn't have to bother about references :-) ! Funny thing, I used to work with his son, which was one of the main reasons I knew about it in the first place, but I really didn't know too much. I hope you'll agree I've now addressed the issues adequately. Deb (talk) 22:00, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Deb, that's great. Boleyn (talk) 08:33, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Agrzhan

Well, I did find one additional source on the Agrzhan. There might be more to find from an indepth study of Astrakhan history. I would think the best move now might be to either create an article on Astrakhan Tatar or figure out if we have a current article that covers that. Frank's book might give us a better hint at how to situate this article. There might also be more sources in Russian, but I don't read it so I can't help there.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:24, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I did figure out we have an article on the subject, I just had not linked to it yet.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:31, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into it so thoroughly, Boleyn (talk) 08:33, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Honda CR85R Expert

Hi, and wow is that a long time ago. I have no idea, really. I try not to get too involved in notability stuff outside my areas of knowledge nowadays, because I think you have to have some idea of what the hell it's talking about to really be able to assess notability a lot of the time. I see a lot of stuff that I think "really?", but I bet people think that about some of the stuff I write too. So basically, I don't really know the guidelines for this kind of thing. Looking at the article as it was when I speedied it, it's certainly ... changed a little. Maybe the relevant wikiproject could help? Frickeg (talk) 09:53, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

David Healy

Hi there, I removed the PROD tag from David Healy (Irish politician) because I already prodded back in 2009, and under prod guidelines it can't be re-prodded. If you nominate the article for deletion, I would support it because he fails WP:Politician. Rgds, Snappy (talk) 16:22, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Re: Joseph R. Inge

Thanks for the notification. I presently have zero interest in taking part in any Wikipedia processes other than editing articles, so I will not be the one to move forward with any kinds of notices at this time. All the best. --~TPW 00:39, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Boleyn. You have new messages at Whpq's talk page.
Message added 11:47, 25 February 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Whpq (talk) 11:47, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

old taggings

Maybe I am the only one, but I don't find it particularly helpful to get a message that seems to be asking me to follow up on a a tagging I made five years ago. I pretty much ignored the one you left me, it just happens that you have left similar messages on a few other user talk pages on my watchlist. I'm not sure what it is you are hoping to accomplish with these messages, but it feels like you are telling users that you feel they are somehow obligated to do something about these very old edits. As I am sure you know, generally nobody is obligated to do anything around here and if you see something that needs attention you are more then welcome to deal with it yourself. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:47, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't feel there was any need for that. I have not told anyone they I 'feel they are somehow obligated to do something about these very old edits.' I have dealt with issues myself where I am sure of them, but not where I am not. I am sorry that my attempts to start a discussion about concerns others have raised about notability, and thus resolve them, has offended you. Boleyn (talk) 22:09, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Enemies (song)

Hi. To be honest, the song does lack in notability, so I guess it's not really worth of a page, hence no charting or any other special activity around it. -- Luigi-ish (talk) 03:14, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

FRAME:S

I do not care for the article, do as you wish with it. Most of the content is written by the inventor of the framework anyhow. Lord Metroid (talk) 21:35, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

"Rattler"

Thank you for letting me know what is happening with this song. I have just discovered that the song was also recorded by "Herman's Hermits". I have always liked the song, so I hope that this new information might be enough to show that the song is a notable one. Thank you once again. All the best. Figaro (talk) 08:52, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

1908 Tehran bombardment

Thanks for notifying me; I'd almost forgotten the article entirely and will gladly remedy the situation when time permits. dci | TALK 17:04, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Bronte

Dear Boleyn: Could you please check the Brontë article again to see if the tags can be removed? Thanks. —Anne Delong (talk) 18:29, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

And can you check this one as well. Speechless (play) —Anne Delong (talk) 19:02, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Well done for your work on this; I've looked them over. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 09:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Article notability notification

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Redirecting albums

Categories Please do not remove categories from redirected album articles and please do add {{r from album}}. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:37, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Reverting It looks like you have done this to several dozen pages. Do you think that you can go through them to put back in the categories? If you respond here, please use {{tb}}. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:54, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

{{tb}} Having categories on redirect pages? That's not something I've come across before. Do you know where the guidelines say that? I don't have time at the moment to go through and re-add categories, but I will bear this in mind in the future. Thanks for letting me know. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 09:11, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Precedent There is plenty of precedent for this. E.g. Category:The Balham Alligators albums has been nominated for deletion twice. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:27, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Larry Greene

A tag has been placed on Larry Greene requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G6 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an orphaned disambiguation page which either

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Speedy deletion nomination of Larry Greene

A tag has been placed on Larry Greene requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G6 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an orphaned disambiguation page which either

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Mary Trevelyan OBE

I don't understand the rationale for the PROD tag - dozens of references in Google Books. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:17, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Apologies that the above comment comes at the same time as Anne Plichota etc. I completely do understand there, the way the original COI articles were "planted" - Have a barnstar/cheese/something Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:09, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you :) Boleyn (talk) 11:33, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion of Gardner-White Furniture

Why do you think it is not a relevant company? GWF is a multimillion a year company, who does charitable works in association with all local news outlets, both Detroit Tigers and Lions, and is very widely appreciated and respected in the furniture business, and sales models are often copied by competitors. All of that documentation supporting what I just said is already on the page as well. S.clouthier (talk) 19:08, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Gardner-White is a highly notable company in Detroit, it is super ridiculous the way that all of these mods are working on here, if they care so much to try to discredit, they should do research and they would find the high amount of notability.S.clouthier (talk) 19:26, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Rejection of Proposed deletion of Charles Amadon Moody

Your nomination of the article Charles Amadon Moody for proposed deletion has been rejected because of the following concern:

remove prod, deletion would not be uncontroversial as i do see press coverage of this individual suggesting possible notability

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised, but other deletion processes exist. Articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus regarding any suggested deletion.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 13:27, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Reviewing prods

Hi Boleyn... I noticed that you marked as reviewed several articles which had been prodded. Just a heads up that per a discussion at NPP, it was decided not to "review" articles marked with prod or CSD'd. You can find the discussion here: Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers/Archive 30#Should we stop marking articles tagged with CSD and PROD as 'reviewed' now that we can filter them in the NewPagesFeed?. Thanks for helping out at NPP.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:53, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Boleyn. I just got a notification that an article I started was reviewed by you. Could you let me know what that means? Regards --Awellmann (talk) 19:04, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi, user:Awellmann, it means that I have approved it as part of WP:New Page Patrol and it can now be indexed by search engines. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 21:09, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your reply, much appreciated. Regards --Awellmann (talk) 06:33, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for tagging Missouri Route 4

Tysm for tagging the page ;) TrentoninSpringfieldMissouri (talk) 11:05, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

"prepend"

Hallo Boleyn

On some user's talk page I noticed a helpful message from you which amongst other things suggested they reply to you but "prepend" it with {{ping|Boleyn}}. I wonder if that isn't perhaps a rather obscure word: would "start with" be clearer for editors, many of whom aren't first-language English speakers. Especially as it includes "end", which suggests the opposite. (I'm pretty sure I wouldn't know the equivalent term in a couple of languages of which I've got a basic knowledge). Happy Editing! PamD 07:39, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi user:PamD, it's not a word I can recall ever reading before, but I guess I've learnt something new :) I'm not sure what template that is, but I guess it's something automated/sem-automated via Twinkle? Definitely not my wording. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 09:16, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Ah, if I see it again I'll look a bit more closely. I thought it was a bit of "boilerplate" of your own (I've got a couple of ready-made talk page posts in User:PamD/sandbox for stuff I often want to say). PamD 13:06, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

See your 14 June message at User talk:Szabiao. Seems to be part of NPP. PamD 05:57, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

See Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers#"Prepend"_and_"And,_". I don't do NPP except sometimes a blitz on redirects, so I'm not sure where in the system this wording comes from but interestingly it's in two quite different messages as cited here. I hope we can get it improved. PamD 07:42, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

The page Dolphin Nature Conservation Society has been reviewed

Thank you very much for reviewing the page Dolphin Nature Conservation Society. with regards, Dr. M. Rama Murty --Bmantha (talk) 03:42, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Artyom Ponikarov

You draftified this and it's now been moved back to mainspace unchanged. PamD 07:47, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, Boleyn (talk) 19:14, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Jerry Bennett

Looks like you reverted a change for Jerry Bennett. Take a look at the note I left at Talk:Jerry Bennett. If you keep your revert, it's acceptable but the birth year is wrong anyways. SWP13 (talk) 18:23, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I've responded at the talk page. Boleyn (talk) 17:30, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

I can't find my trout. If you go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Nations in popular culture you might find it.

Bearian (talk) 01:53, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

As you'll probably have seen, I withdrew the nomination after reading through the comments, they were very convincing. Boleyn (talk) 17:32, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

AfD nomination

Hi Boleyn. It looks like you started an AfD nomination for Andreas, Prince of Leiningen, but didn't create the actual discussion page. I've reverted everything for the moment, so there's a clean slate if you want to start again. I hope that's okay - all the best, ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 18:44, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I re-formatted the nomination. Boleyn (talk) 17:32, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Price

Look at the Lawrence Price disambiguation page. The first link is to Laurence Price which is a different spelling. The second Lawrence Price (rugby) isn't linked but has a link to London Irish where he isn't mentioned. The third, a redlink, is to Lawrence Price (politician) and a link to United States Senate elections, 1916 where he is mentioned as a losing candidate and so not eligible for a Wikipedia article. There is no need for a disambiguation page at that particular name. Far better to merge them into one disambigation page at Larry Price. Or redirect it to Laurence Price and hatnote that article to the United States Senate elections, 1916 but not the rugby page. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 21:43, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, user:CambridgeBayWeather. Dabs are there to list, in this case, all Lawrence/Laurence Prices mentioned on WP. They don't need an article to be a valid entry, they need to meet MOS:DABMENTION / MOS:DABRL. Laurence and Lawrence are the same name, pronounced the same, with a slightly different spelling that would be an easy mistake for anyone to make - they go together. None of the Larrys state in their articles that they are a Laurence/Lawrence, but the Larrys have a link in the see also section. 3 entries plus 2 see alsos is plenty for a dab. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 07:32, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) (Followed this out of curiosity, and got into a right spat over Laurence!) Actually the Irish rugby player is no longer mentioned in the target article: he was in the infobox in 2012 when the link was made, but they've changed captains, updated the infobox, and don't have a list of former captains in the article. Interesting, there may be thousands of similar now-unmentioned redirects or dab page entries, as time moves on! Quite agree that Lawrence/Laurence shouldn't redirect to Larry. PamD 07:41, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Actually only captain of their Amateur team (now at London Irish Amateur - but still with no list of past captains!). PamD 07:49, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

So then based on MOS:DABMENTION the rugby player shouldn't be in the disambiguation page. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 16:46, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

No, not any more as the original reference isn't there any more. Boleyn (talk) 17:34, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Stephen Lacey

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Hi, user:Poydoo, thanks for letting me know, and I hope you understand the reasons behind the tag being removed. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 17:35, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

International Congress on Tuberculosis

Hi; earlier in the year you placed a notice of proposed deletion on my talk page. I don't know if you're the editor who proposed the deletion, because it seems to have been successfully deleted (though fortunately re-created) and I can't find any trace of the deletion discussion. But just in case you're the one who began the deletion process I wanted to make sure you know that notability is not temporary—a series of scientific conferences which happened for more than a decade concerning a disease which is still the number one worldwide cause of death as an individual infectious disease (see List of causes of death by rate § Detailed table) and which appeared in bazillions of medical journal citations and notes during the twentieth century does not become non-notable because time has passed. Cheers, ▸₷truthious Ⓑandersnatch◂ 13:56, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Hell, user:Struthious Bandersnatch, I'm afraid it's not one I recall or can see clearly now, but yes, notability is absoluteley not temporary. Thanks for your hard work,

Boleyn (talk) 17:37, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

"Wayne Lineker" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Thanks, after changes to the target page, it is definitely not a valid redirect. Boleyn (talk) 17:38, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Approval

Hi, I saw you already approved one of my coaching pages I was wondering if you could look at my DeMarcus Covington page that was denied and see if my improvements would make it wiki ready now thank you. Bigmike2346 (talk) 16:10, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Well done, it's looking good! Boleyn (talk) 18:04, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Calvin Simms

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Hello, user:Poydoo. You've nominated a couple of these; if you want to discuss dabs and MOS:DABMENTION, do feel free to message me here or on the Wikiproject. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 18:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

"John Derek (disambiguation)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Thanks, there have been changes since I created it, I don't have any strong opinions. Thanks for letting me know, Boleyn (talk) 18:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of 4Mag Nitrous for deletion

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1989-90 Norwich City FC season

For goodness sake, what more do you want? All of the information in the article was obtained from the references listed. Why have you taken it upon yourself to declare it "not good enough"? It's written to the same standard as several other similar articles. It's attitudes like this that stop people contributing to Wikipedia. Skteosk (talk) 16:02, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

So...you're just going to ignore me then? Just get rid of someone else's work with no explanation beyond a vague "Under-referenced"? What references do you think the page needs and doesn't have? All the information on the page came from the sources listed. From books mostly, since that's how information was recorded in 1990. Seriously, what references does a page like that have to have that weren't there? There's an infobox which doesn't have any references in it, but most infoboxes of that type, both for recent seasons and for vintage ones, don't have references in them. There's a squad list, which doesn't really quote a reference, but again, I'm seeing plenty of other squad lists which don't quote a reference. There's a table of transfers: Fair enough, similar lists on other pages have references, but there are other pages of a similar vintage, from what are basically pre-internet years, which don't quote any references and you're not going around deleting them from main space. So, I'll say again, in the hope of getting an answer this time: What do you want? Page references from the source material? What was so wrong about that page that it justifies you striking it through with a red line and saying "Do it again"? Skteosk (talk) 16:42, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

What's wrong with the page? Skteosk (talk) 16:43, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, user:Skteosk. Please don't send me messages like this - if you're wanting advice and to work with someone, then be civil. I also have a sign at the top of my page so people know I'm not editing regularly right now - I won't always get to everything on the few occasions I can get on for a few minutes, especially if it is something that needs careful looking into. I don't think the article needs to be 'done again'. It now has references - not inline, so not great, but they are there. Just click on the button to submit via AFC. When you've created a few pages with references, you will probably be auto-confirmed and not have to worry about it being checked by New Page Patrol. Thanks for your hard work on this, 18:03, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your response, I apologise if I was abrupt. I am still a little confused, since the page was deleted/moved to draft after I added the references: I haven't done any editing on it since then. (I have been doing some work in my sandbox but that's another matter.) So, was it deleted/moved by mistake and it actually might be okay? Skteosk (talk) 18:14, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi user:Sktesok, I can't see the full history of it but I'm sorry if I made a mistake. Definitely put it though AFC and they will keep you right. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 15:32, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

I've submitted it so hopefully I'll get a response at some point. Full page history is here. Skteosk (talk) 08:37, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Well, now I've got a message back from them saying it's not good enough, so can you tell them that? Skteosk (talk) 08:59, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, user:Skteosk, it's frustrating when something isn't accepted, and by 'they will keep you right' I meant they will let you know if it isn't up to standard, and if not, what may need to be done. Hopefully you've got that info, but if not, please contact the reviewer. Good luck, Boleyn (talk) 13:19, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

They're being frustratingly vague. Given that you were the one who rejected in the first place, then said it might be all right after all, only for it to be rejected again, any insight would be appreciated. Skteosk (talk) 09:15, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Caesar Colclough

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Hi user:Z1720, thanks for informing me. I only created this as a redirect, but from looking at it, it's a valid dab. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 20:48, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

No problem. I think this is my first CSD, and Twinkle automatically sends a notification to the article creator. Thanks for responding. :) Z1720 (talk) 21:22, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Michael Larsen (author)

Is this writer really notable? Ping or template me. Bearian (talk) 19:49, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

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Firas Zahabi

Hey there, I wanted to create a page for Firas Zahabi but I found out that it was deleted previously by you, may I know why? Should I not create again? AbYaSSer6 (talk) 18:13, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hello, AbYaSSer6. Boleyn hasn't edited in the past few days, see her note at the top of the page. She is not an administrator, so she can't delete articles. What she did was "move" the article (=rename it) to Draft:Firas Zahabi. From there it was deleted by an admin because it was an unambiguous copyright infringement. Please see [2] for the admin who deleted it, and for who owns the copyright. If you have reliable independent sources that show Zahabi is notable, you could create a new article from scratch. I don't know if there are such sources, though; martial arts is not a field I've studied. Bishonen | tålk 18:30, 28 November 2020 (UTC).

Wagstaff, California

I noticed after prodding this that you suggested you thought it was notable via edit summary back in February, do you want me to take this to AFD? Hog Farm _Bacon 06:28, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

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New Page Patrol December Newsletter

Hello Boleyn,

Year in review

It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.

Rank	Username	Num reviews	Log
1	DannyS712 bot III (talk)	67,552	Patrol Page Curation
2	Rosguill (talk)	63,821	Patrol Page Curation
3	John B123 (talk)	21,697	Patrol Page Curation
4	Onel5969 (talk)	19,879	Patrol Page Curation
5	JTtheOG (talk)	12,901	Patrol Page Curation
6	Mcampany (talk)	9,103	Patrol Page Curation
7	DragonflySixtyseven (talk)	6,401	Patrol Page Curation
8	Mccapra (talk)	4,918	Patrol Page Curation
9	Hughesdarren (talk)	4,520	Patrol Page Curation
10	Utopes (talk)	3,958	Patrol Page Curation

Reviewer of the Year

John B123 has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.

NPP Technical Achievement Award

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Proposed deletion of William Bennet (musician)

The article William Bennet (musician) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable; does not confrom to ctireria of WP:NOTABLE

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Hi, user:Smerus, this definitely meets notability, I'm not sure what your specific concerns are, but happy to discuss. Boleyn (talk) 19:41, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

a copy paste article

Hello, I would like to report this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinda_Alloush someone removed the original content and copied an IMDB article on it thanks 45.243.74.197 (talk) 11:54, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, it seems to have been sorted :) Boleyn (talk) 19:42, 3 January 2021 (UTC)