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Detective Pikachu will now be distributed by Warner Bros. instead of Universal Pictures

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Hey, everyone. I just wanted to inform everyone that Warner Bros. will now distribute the Detective Pikachu movie.[1]

MatthewRC (talk) 22:21, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/07/25/detective-pikachu-movie-moves-to-warner-bros

Production company(s)

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NinjaRobotPirate, why did you add Universal and Toho? See the official trailer: Warner Bros. Pictures, Legendary Entertainment, The Pokémon Company. Federal Chancellor (NightShadow) (talk) 12:17, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As I explained to you on your talk page, a trailer is not a reliable source. A reliable source has editorial control. A trailer does not have editorial control. Variety Insight has editorial control. Variety Insight is thus a reliable source. Interpreting what you see in a trailer is original research. Copying what a reliable source says is not. This is why {{infobox film}} says " When possible, this should be cited to reliable secondary sources that explicitly identify the production companies." This is to prevent what you're doing – using original research to interpret primary sources. Universal and Toho are listed by Variety Insight. See, for example, this cached version of Variety's database. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:22, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This is outdated information. The movie moved from Universal to Warner Bros. in July (Variety). Also see Pokémon: Detective Pikachu#Production. Federal Chancellor (NightShadow) (talk) 12:24, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Just because the film moved from one studio to another does not mean the first studio is not a production company. What makes something a production company is being listed as such by a reliable source – not your own belief. Variety says they're a production company, so they are. It's really that simple. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:39, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Universal was removed from the "production company" at the end of July. The fact that you're just now adding it to the article looks weird. Federal Chancellor (NightShadow) (talk) 12:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
NinjaRobotPirate, Variety's database does not say that Legendary is a distributor. This calls into question the reliability of the source. Federal Chancellor (NightShadow) (talk) 14:09, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You've got to be kidding me. I'm an administrator on Wikipedia, and I don't have time to get engaged in debates on who produced or distributed films for little kids. I'm just removing this article from my watchlist. Stop pinging me – I'm busy doing other things, and I don't have time to explain to you what a reliable source is. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:30, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pokemon Appearances

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There should be a list of all the different Pokemon that appear in the movie.

Something this detailed probably belongs better on Bulbapedia or specific sites; Wikipedia isn't for every information available. Juxlos (talk) 13:51, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Besides, the list is likely to be enormous and very difficult to get 100% accurate, if the amount seen in the background in the trailer alone is anything to go by. Plus, pages for other Pokémon movies don’t have this, aside from some that are a major feature of the movie. GloverMist (talk) 15:21, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Marketing

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I've removed the "Marketing" section as seen here per WP:FILMMARKETING. Per the guidelines, such a section needs to be more than customary marketing methods. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 15:20, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What was wrong with it? What do you mean by "customary marketing methods"? The section looked similar to what I've seen on other movie articles (e.g. MCU movies). Maestro2016 (talk) 16:59, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The methods that everyone uses, releasing posters and trailers and TV spots. It's indiscriminate detailing. These can be mentioned if there is more to say that just that these were released. See The Martian (film)#Marketing for an example. I haven't read the MCU movies' marketing coverage, but hopefully they are more than just the indiscriminate detailing that is disallowed. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 18:58, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Another example is Valkyrie (film)#Marketing. Basically, if a film does not have anything besides the usual stuff, there does not need to be a "Marketing" section in its article. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 19:00, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I just saw that the "Marketing" section was restored with view-related details about the trailer. That works great! Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 19:04, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Heck instead of fuck

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Why does it say that Danny DeVito said "What the [heck] is Pokémon" instead of "What the fuck is Pokémon"?

Probably some self-censorship. Anyways, I just added "fuck" into a Wikipedia article. Juxlos (talk) 15:18, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The reason is because it is also a kids film they had to cut the bad language out of the film Chrisdcoool (talk) 20:38, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The reason is because it is also a kids film they had to cut the bad language out of the film Chrisdcoool (talk) 20:38, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Executive producer list, & "Japanese co-production"

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Okay, so ... who is executive producing this film? The IPs' cryptic edit summaries make it difficult to tell what they are referring to. Could someone put together a list of sources currently in this article and other sources supposedly available on "the official website" and list the different exec prods given in each? Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:34, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.detectivepikachumovie.net/ does indeed appear to have a poster-style production billing visible when one clicks the "legal" in the bottom right, listing Carraciolo, Mendes, Ishihara, Okubo, Miyahara, Matsuoka, and Ota, but with just the names, and no indication that these are executives of TPC. Also (obviously) we can't be including information from this source and falsely attributing it to the Business Insider source, which only gives Caracciolo, Jr. and "The Pokémon Company's Tsunekazu Ishihara". Additionally, this other source currently cited in the article lists Joseph M. Caracciolo Jr., Kenji Okubo, Satoshi Tajiri, Toshio Miyahara, and Tsunekazu Ishihara.
On top of this, the fact that these men appear from their names to be Japanese doesn't really make this an American-Japanese co-production. None of the secondary sources imply that TPC is one of the production companies, and even if we were allowed assume they were I don't see why we would: all our articles on the Japanese animated films suggest that TPC have never acted as the production company for a film, as OLM, Inc. appears to have produced all of them. Owning the copyright on the original IP does not make them one of the production companies by default, and it doesn't make this a Japanese film.
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Look, we don't need a citation on the fact that Toho helped produce this film. It says in the production billing that they did. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.255.153.190 (talk) 12:47, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

we don't need a citation on the fact that Toho helped produce this film Yes, we do. I would be incredibly surprised if Toho were involved in the production of this film, given that it's an American film being produced halfway around the world from them, and they weren't even (apparently) directly involved in the production of any of the Japanese animated films. It says in the production billing that they did. Is that what "in association with" means? That seems a bit ambiguous; you will need a reliable secondary source to support your interpretation of that primary source -- otherwise its original research. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 14:30, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 April 2019

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Budget $60 million

 Not done for now: Can't find any other sources to back this up, but new information is bound to come out. Breawycker (talk to me!) 00:37, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. DannyS712 (talk) 20:16, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Khary Payton

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Can you remove Khary Payton from the billing block please? He is not on the billing block of this movie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.255.153.190 (talk) 12:54, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 April 2019

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Infos are not according to the official's website credits: https://i.imgur.com/rDXFH1f.png

Legendary Pictures and Toho are the only production companies, as it appears "A Legendary Pictures production in association with Toho Co., Ltd".

The "based on" should be for Great Detective Pikachu and credited by The Pokémon Company and Creatures Inc., as it appears "Based on the Great Detective Pikachu video game developed by The Pokémon Company and Creatures Inc. Youngmiserable (talk) 18:45, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Think about it like DC movies. The company itself isn't credited, even though it's their property. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.255.153.190 (talk) 19:53, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. DannyS712 (talk) 20:16, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Carry On

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Hey, can someone put the wiki page of Carry On in place of “Carry On”?

I will let the admin know to add it to the page Chrisdcoool (talk) 21:55, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I let them know there going to put it on. Chrisdcoool (talk) 20:14, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I let them know there going to put it on. Chrisdcoool (talk) 20:14, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No colon in the title

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Not sure why you locked it but there is no colon in the title in and official material, billing or site for the movie. The movie does not have a colon in it. Please remove the colon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fdslkjfdslkj (talk • contribs) 03:28, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Fdslkjfdslkj: Colons are how we conventionally separate titles from subtitles. Wikipedia titles for articles on pop culture topics are not meant to reflect the logo of the film but the actual title. When there is a line break clearly meant to represent a subtitle, we reflect that on a single line with a colon. It's a Pokemon film distinguished from other such films by the title Detective Pikachu; it's not about a Pokemon Detective named Pikachu, which wouldn't make sense in Japanese where the title of the original game is clearly an allusion to 名探偵ホームズ. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 01:38, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Hijiri88: I'm sorry but you are incorrect here. the official text billing on movie posters (the billing, not the logo) does not have a colon. they purposely made a choice to not have a colon, it is not up to you to add one...in addition this is a production by Legendary, the Japanese aspect is not a deciding factor. -Fdslkjfdslkj
@Hijiri88: Look at the bottom of the theatrical poster. There is no colon. Remove it. It's not up to you. That's stupid. We should go by the OFFICIAL title. Detective Pikachu is not a subtitle.

Request editing

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Detective Pikachu is based on The Pokémon Company, not only Creatures, Inc. This is a misleading. All official information shows that The Pokémon Company is in the first position. Please change it. Lucas two (talk) 15:43, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Lucas two: Source? This article's footnote appears to reflect the content of our main Detective Pikachu article. There is nothing stopping you from adding the information to that article if you have a source. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 03:51, 27 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/meitantei_pikachu/ https://detectivepikachu.pokemon.com/en-us/ They all show that The Pokémon Company is in the first position. Creatures, Inc in here is just the same status as Game Freak in the main series. When we mention Pokemon main series, we will say that it is from The Pokémon Company (or Nintendo). So Detective Pikachu should be like this. (Or at least plus The Pokémon Company.) Lucas two (talk) 06:04, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I just checked on CinemaBlend and found out Detective Pikachu is now the higgest gross video game movie ever with a total of $436 million dollars it needs to be updated if members want a check they can. Chrisdcoool (talk) 19:23, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

REMOVE THE COLON

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Whoever added the colon is a dimwit who doesn't know what he's talking about and only trying to push a colon agenda. The title, as shown in the bottom of the theatrical poster AND all marketing material is Pokémon Detective Pikachu WITHOUT the colon. That is the full title. Don't pull that Wikipidea/subtitle excuse out because (1) "Detective Pikachu" is not a subtitle. It is part of the MAIN title. (2) Wikipidea shouldn't be allowed to alter the title of a movie. Remove the colon. https://i.imgur.com/rDXFH1f.png Scott Sullivan (talk) 08:18, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In a less angry tone, I agree - IMDB, Warner Bros, etc all do not use colon. Manual of Style should not get in the way of basically all sources. Juxlos (talk) 08:56, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: page move requests should be made at Wikipedia:Requested moves. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 13:48, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If anybody's a dimwit here it's whoever titled the movie. Obviously they had no idea how colons or titles worked. The only title is Detective Pikachu anyway so it won't be an issue much longer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C56:7108:589:D87:B28C:45ED:12B6 (talk) 20:41, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1 May 2019

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 11:05, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Pokémon: Detective Pikachu → Pokémon Detective Pikachu – Colon is entirely a Wikipedia addition. Official media, IMDB, Warner Bros, etc all do not use colon, even when referring to the movie in a sentence. Manual of Style should not get in the way of basically all sources. Juxlos (talk) 20:10, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note The sources cited above actually don't call the film by the proposed title, but rather write "Pokemon" in all caps. This appears to be a stylistic "colon substitute". Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:26, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until release. We're barely a week away from the film's American release, and sources may not solidify for quite a while. This isn't really the right time to make such a move request. ONR (talk) 23:07, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Addition: I've taken a look at a larger version of the poster (currently used on the infobox) on IGN. The credits block at the bottom uses "POKÉMON DETECTIVE PIKACHU" without a colon. It looks to me that the colon-free title is the official one. (Side note regarding one of the below votes: writing "OPPOSE" in all caps does not make one's vote any more prominent or of a higher status than anyone else's.) –WPA (talk) 18:25, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • With the movie having had official media for months now, it's beyond reasonable doubt that he official media does not have colons. And "movie releasing soon" is a pretty moot point - accuracy doesn't care for timing. Juxlos (talk) 17:07, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • The text billing in the poster is always the same as film credits and the billing does not have a colon. It's time to move it. The title does not make any less sense without the colon and even if it did it's not up to Wikipedia.
Collapsed duplicate vote
  • Support movie to Pokémon Detective Pikachu with NO colon. Why are people having such a hard time grasping this? All you have to do is look at the credits at the bottom of the poster. It's not that hard. Move the article and the text within the article! I can't do it because I haven't edited 500+ things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott Sullivan 1997 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos: I responded to what you wrote without looking into your edit history, assuming you were a new editor making a rookie mistake and adhering to WP:BITE, but then I noticed you had more than 10K edits going back to 2017. I'm frankly shocked to see such an experienced user making simple editing mistakes like this: how can you possibly defend interpreting this source as supporting your proposed title? The only place on that cite where I can find it using the title in running text as opposed to the logo is here, where it consistently writes the title as "POKÉMON Detective Pikachu", clearly distinguishing between the "supertitle" and main title in a house style comparative to our colon. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:49, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please examine IMDb source, etc. Other editors seem to agree to my viewpoint in this case. Juxlos (talk) 13:13, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Careless drive-by !votes that (incorrectly) took "AGF" as implying they had to trust that your sources say what you said they do are inherently less at fault than you for misleading them. And you are digging yourself even deeper by citing WP:IMDB without apparently a hint of irony. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You are welcome to try and convince said "drive-by !votes" that the sources use a colon despite the references of the article itself having more Pokémon Detective Pikachu than Pokémon: Detective Pikachu. If we go by source count, the article would be called Detective Pikachu (film). And please refrain from personal attacks. Juxlos (talk) 13:42, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the majority of our present sources appear to prefer "Detective Pikachu", without the "Pokemon". Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:26, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
the only other instance I can think of This is an old joke among Trekkies, that "Star Trek Insurrection" is rebelling against the franchise and "Star Trek Nemesis" is the enemy of the franchise; the fact that the IP ignored those two closely related examples is telling -- this is either a troll just having a laugh at the expense of our encyclopedia, or a virulent POV-pusher willfully ignoring the evidence that is right in front of them, that reliable secondary sources using a colon to separate the title from the subtitle are more important for our purposes than the logo used on the poster. Also, Star Trek: The Next Generation is probably the single most prominent example of a similar case, although if we take the logic employed by the above IP and most of the other editors supporting the move as proposed we really should be moving Star Wars: The Last Jedi to Star The Last Jedi Wars -- not only does that film's poster lack a colon, but the order of the words is wrong! (Yeah, I know it's in the billing block). Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 10:21, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Mixed reviews

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I wouldn't consider the film getting mixed reviews if it has a 74% on Rotten Tomatoes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.255.153.190 (talk) 18:57, May 3, 2019 (UTC)

Metacritic indicates that the film received "mixed or average reviews". Sebastian James (talk) 07:45, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
plus the accompanying source from THR says mixed response. RT isn't the end all-be all. TropicAces (talk) 21:27, 4 May 2019 (UTC)tropicAces[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2019

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I think it should be added that this is the highest rated film based on a video game on Rotten Tomatoes and the first to get a "Fresh" rating. Hfmbears (talk) 00:50, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Breawycker (talk to me!) 04:26, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 May 2019

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2400:2411:87A2:9200:6029:D842:AF30:F71B (talk) 07:09, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

　Summary of a plot 

Mewtwo is captured and held in a science facility where they use his DNA to make a drug called R that makes Pokémon go berserk.

Harry, Tim's dad, was trying to rescue Mewtwo from this facility but Mewtwo escapes from the lab, flying over a highway and shooting a psychic blast at Harry but he merged with Pikachu.

Tim and his friend who we never see again are in a forest trying to catch a Cubone. The Cubone escapes, and then Tim gets a call from the Ryme City Police Department saying his dad has died.

He goes to Ryme City, a city where there are no Pokéballs or Pokémon battles and people and Pokémon live in harmony. He goes to the police station to get the details on his dad's death and then he goes to his dad's apartment to try to clean up some things. On his way up to the apartment he meets a reporter girl, Lucy.

There he finds a strange vial full of purple gas, and it sprays everywhere making some Aipoms outside go crazy. He runs into Pikachu in the scene you saw in the trailer, and he learns that he can understand Pikachu and no one else can. He assumes it's because of exposure to the purple gas.

Then the Aipoms break through the window and cause a lot of chaos. They escape and then go to a coffee bar to discuss what's going to happen next. Pikachu decides that Tim's dad probably isn't actually dead, so they start to look for him.

They decide to trace down the source of R, the purple drug that made the Aipoms go crazy. They go to Lucy's office where she had been investigating the source of R on her own, and they go to an underground Pokémon fighting league.

There Pikachu fights a Charizard that's hopped up on R, and just barely escape. They learn about the facility where R was produced and decide to investigate.

There they learn that the founder of the city was using Mewtwo's DNA to produce R with the goal of using Mewtwo's body as his own. The founder sprays R all over a giant parade and puts humans in Pokémon's bodies to give them a new life or something.

Tim manages to take the brain transfer helmet off of the founder and then Mewtwo fixes everything.

Mewtwo is revealed to have saved Tim's dad by putting him in Pikachu's body and in the very end Ryan Reynolds is there and gives him a train ticket to go back to the town he's from, and Tim decides to stay with his dad and become a detective.


Hi person, I'm gonna rewrite this and then post it ok? Faromics (talk) 14:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think the part about Mewtwo in the very first sentence is wrong. Wasn't he created in that lab, rather than captured? Or am I misremembering things?
MEwtwo was made and captured by Giovanni and Team Rocket.

Where’s my money, Faromics?

 Note: Closing request. NiciVampireHeart 12:10, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

70% on RT

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NOT 69% please fix

Sorry, but making edit requests like this one regarding information that is changing rapidly is unlikely to do any good, as before anyone sees it the information will be out of date. It's at 66% at the moment. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 03:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rotton tomatoes has a rating of 67 percent now I recently checked and I know what you mean. Chrisdcoool (talk) 21:59, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rotton tomatoes has a rating of 67 percent now I recently checked and I know what you mean. Chrisdcoool (talk) 21:59, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

“and represents a separate continuity from the mainline video games and anime series.”

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Um...Wrong https://comicbook.com/anime/2019/05/10/detective-pikachu-takes-place-in-anime-universe-says-writers-/ Someone add this in, please.

disinformation in latest edit

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The latest edit removed the mentions that the movie is the best rated videogame-based movie~under the excuse that ratings have dropped, but even ignoring that they're still high, that original statement is STILL truth as its still above all other videogame based movie ratings by a FAIR marging. I don't know what motivated that misinformation spreading, but could someone undo it and restore the original version as long as the statement still holds truth? JackJusticeTruth (talk) 00:45, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also seems like the rating went up a bit for quite a while now, can someone update it, the user scores and remove the seemingly but hopefully not misinformation/vandalism done by User:JDDJS? JackJusticeTruth (talk) 00:49, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Box office data reporting

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The current $20M overseas box office data excludes Mainland China, which the article does not mention. Rethliopuks (talk) 10:28, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should wait till Box Office Mojo update everything on their website.Timur9008 (talk) 17:02, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 May 2019

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https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=detectivepikachu.htm

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 21:39, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

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Box office

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As of May 12, 2019, Pokémon Detective Pikachu has grossed $58 million in the United States and Canada, and $112.4 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $170.4 million, against a production budget of $150 million.[1]

Actual domestic numbers are in. It actually grossed lower than its projection

As of May 12, 2019, Pokémon Detective Pikachu has grossed $54.37 million in the United States and Canada, and $112.4 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $166.8 million, against a production budget of $150 million.[2] 2601:447:4101:5780:80C9:442E:B03F:42E0 (talk) 21:31, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 May 2019

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In the United States and Canada, the film was released alongside Tolkien, Poms and The Hustle, and was projected to gross $50–70 million from 4,202 theaters,[3][4] although the studio was estimating a lower $40 million debut.[5] The film made $20.7 million on its first day, including $5.7 million from Thursday night previews, both the most ever for a film based on a video game.[6] It went on to debut to $58 million, the best opening ever for a video game film, and finished second behind holdover Avengers: Endgame,[7][8] though Detective Pikachu had a higher per-theater average ($13,803 to $13,425).[9]

Please update the article by including the actual box office figures. 54.4 million is good enough of an estimate for me. I have also added more details concerning projections. Please include them too. Please also include the decline in the average per screening numbers as well.


In the United States and Canada, the film was released alongside Tolkien, Poms and The Hustle, and was projected to gross $50–70 million from 4,202 theaters,[10][4] although the studio was estimating a lower $40 million debut.[11] Following the opening day, it was projected to make at $55-60 million.[12][13] The film made $20.6 million on its first day,[14] including $5.7 million from Thursday night previews, both the most ever for a film based on a video game.[15] It went on to debut to $54.4 million,[1] the best opening ever for a video game film, and finished second behind holdover Avengers: Endgame,[7][16] Actual numbers showed that Detective Pikachu had a lower per-theater average ($12,938 to $13,578).[17] 2601:447:4101:5780:80C9:442E:B03F:42E0 (talk) 21:40, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done WikiVirusC(talk) 17:28, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request - new plot summary

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684 word count according to Microsoft Word:

In the Pokémon universe, Tim Goodman is a 21-year-old insurance salesman who gave up his dream of being a Pokémon trainer following the death of his mother and becoming estranged from his father. Harry is contacted by the police and told his father has died in a car crash in Ryme City.

Harry travels to Ryme City, a city where humans and Pokémon live together and catching and battling Pokémon is outlawed in favor of peaceful co-existence. While looking through his father's apartment, Harry encounters a deerstalker-clad Pikachu that is able to talk to Harry and be understood by him. They are attacked by a party of Aipom[a] under the influence of a purple gas that Tim accidentally released, but escape. At a café, Pikachu explains he has amnesia and his only clue to his identity are Harry's name and address on his hat, leading him to believe he was Harry's partner. Because Pikachu survived the car crash, he surmises Harry also survived.

Tim shows the vial the gas came in to an aspiring journalist, Lucy Stevens, and she directs him to Ryme Wharf. They meet an informant of Harry's, a Mr. Mime, who directs them to an illegal Pokémon battle arena. The arena's owner Sebastian recognizes Pikachu, who had injured his Charizard in a previous battle, and demands a rematch. Sebastian doses Charizard with the purple gas, stirring it into a violent rage, and Pikachu is unable to summon its electrical powers to fight back. While attempting to save Pikachu, Tim knocks Sebastian over, breaking several vials of gas in his clothing that send the Pokémon in the arena into a frenzy. The arena is raided by the police and lieutenant Hideo Yoshida shows Tim security camera footage of Harry's crash to convince him Harry could not have survived.

Tim and Pikachu are taken to see Howard Clifford, the founder of Ryme City who believes living with Pokémon is beneficial to his ailing condition. Howard shows Tim a holographic recreation of the car crash, revealing Harry survived and was captured by Mewtwo, who erased Pikachu's memory. Howard warns Tim that his son Roger is behind the gas, "R", and tells him he can find his father is he finds Mewtwo. Tim and Pikachu recruit Lucy and travel to the lab facility Harry was investigating, which had been experimenting on Mewtwo and synthesized R from its genes. They are attacked by genetically enhanced Pokémon created at the lab, and Pikachu is gravely injured in the escape. Tim manages to communicate to a Bulbasaur they need help, and the Bulbasaur takes Tim to a clearing where they meet Mewtwo. Mewtwo heals Pikachu, but before it can reveal its intensions it is captured by Roger. Regaining his memory of helping Mewtwo escape, Pikachu believes he had betrayed Harry and leaves while Tim returns to Ryme City.

Pikachu comes across the area where Harry crashed and finds evidence that it was the Greninja, not Mewtwo, who attacked Harry. In Ryme City, Howard reveals Mewtwo to Tim and takes control of its body. Howard explains that Mewtwo can fuse humans and Pokémon, allowing humans to evolve as Pokémon can, but this can only be done if the Pokémon's mind is in a confused state, thus the need for the R gas. Howard releases R across the city and uses Mewtwo's powers to begin fusing humans with their Pokémon. Pikachu arrives and summons his electricity powers to battle Mewtwo. Tim meanwhile fights Howard's bodyguard, a Ditto who had been impersonating Roger; with help from the real Roger, Tim subdues Ditto and frees Mewtwo from Howard's control.

Mewtwo restores the city inhabitants to normal, Howard is arrested, and Roger hires Lucy as a full-time reporter. Mewtwo reveals that Harry is actually Pikachu - the two helped Mewtwo escape and Mewtwo fused them to save Harry's life after the Greninja attacked, the experience erasing their memories. Mewtwo separates the two and Harry reunites with Tim in his human body, and Tim decides to stay in Ryme City to learn how to become a detective and spend time with Harry and Pikachu.

References

  1. ^ As written in the "Name" section of the main Pokémon article, "'Pokémon' is identical in the singular and plural, as is each individual species name; it is grammatically correct to say 'one Pokémon' and 'many Pokémon', as well as 'one Pikachu' and 'many Pikachu'."[18]

DrakeyC (talk) 04:50, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The film made only made $20.6 million on its opening day in the US and Canada

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Please include the actual numbers, as noted on Box Office Mojo[19]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 May 2019

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Add the when movie was/gonna be released in other countries. 31.0.124.125 (talk) 15:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. WikiVirusC(talk) 17:29, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request: Pikachu dancing is a reference to a comedy sketch

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Right before the section in "Marketing" where it talks about Ryan aiding in the prank, there should probably be a sentence or two talking about how the dance Pikachu is doing is a reference to a Key and Peele sketch called "Aerobics Meltdown." [20]

  1. ^ a b Cite error: The named reference BOM was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  2. ^ https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=detectivepikachu.htm
  3. ^ Jeremy Fuster (May 7, 2019). "Will 'Detective Pikachu' Be Super Effective Against Disney's Box-Office Domination?". TheWrap. Retrieved May 8, 2019.
  4. ^ a b Ryan Faughnder (May 7, 2019). "Can 'Avengers: Endgame' top 'Avatar's' box office record? Analysts say it has a shot". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved May 8, 2019.
  5. ^ Trent, John F. (May 3, 2019). "Warner Bros. Box Office Expectations for Pokemon Detective Pikachu Revealed!". Bounding Into Comics. Retrieved May 12, 2019.
  6. ^ Mendelson, Scott (May 11, 2019). "Box Office: 'Detective Pikachu' Tops 'Avengers: Endgame' With $21 Million Friday". Forbes. Retrieved May 11, 2019.
  7. ^ a b D'Alessandro, Anthony (May 12, 2019). "'Pokemon Detective Pikachu' Grabs $58M In 'Endgame' Dominated Universe; Marvel Pic 3rd Highest Domestic With $724M+ – Sunday Update". Deadline Hollywood. Retrieved May 12, 2019.
  8. ^ Brevet, Brett (May 12, 2019). "'Detective Pikachu' Delivers Record Opening for a Video Game Adaptation as 'Endgame' Tops $700M". Box Office Mojo. Retrieved May 12, 2019.
  9. ^ Cohn, Gabe (May 12, 2019). "Solid Opening for 'Detective Pikachu' as 'Avengers: Endgame' Rolls On". The New York Times. Retrieved May 12, 2019.
  10. ^ Jeremy Fuster (May 7, 2019). "Will 'Detective Pikachu' Be Super Effective Against Disney's Box-Office Domination?". TheWrap. Retrieved May 8, 2019.
  11. ^ Trent, John F. (May 3, 2019). "Warner Bros. Box Office Expectations for Pokemon Detective Pikachu Revealed!". Bounding Into Comics. Retrieved May 12, 2019.
  12. ^ https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-box-office-pokemon-detective-pikachu-avengers-endgame-20190512-story.html
  13. ^ http://collider.com/detective-pikachu-friday-box-office/
  14. ^ https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=detectivepikachu.htm
  15. ^ Mendelson, Scott (May 11, 2019). "Box Office: 'Detective Pikachu' Tops 'Avengers: Endgame' With $21 Million Friday". Forbes. Retrieved May 11, 2019.
  16. ^ Brevet, Brett (May 12, 2019). "'Detective Pikachu' Delivers Record Opening for a Video Game Adaptation as 'Endgame' Tops $700M". Box Office Mojo. Retrieved May 12, 2019.
  17. ^ https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2019&wknd=19&p=.htm
  18. ^ John Kaufeld; Jeremy Smith (June 13, 2006). Trading Card Games For Dummies. John Wiley & Sons. p. 81. ISBN 978-0-470-04407-0. Archived from the original on October 11, 2013. Retrieved April 25, 2013. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
  19. ^ https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=detectivepikachu.htm
  20. ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k-Dd71CqnM

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 May 2019

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Two of the writers, Dan Hernandez and Benji Samit, now have their own wikipedia entries, so brackets should be added to link to them from this article. Benji2000 (talk) 07:54, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Added for now, we will see if those articles stay up or end up at afd. WikiVirusC(talk) 10:21, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

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"in-turn Ms. Norman, was really a shape-shifting Ditto who was modified to transform into humans" changed to "in-turn Ms. Norman, was really a shape-shifting Ditto whose strength was genetically enhanced" Ditto is naturally capable of shapeshifting into objects, Pokémon, and people, with this ability being acknowledged in both the anime and game series. Transforming into a human is not an ability given to it via genetic tampering. Earlier in the film Clifford's genetic labs were shown to be modifying Pokémon in regards to growth (e.g. enhancing Greninja's strength artificially, enlarging Torterras beyond their natural size) and it is likely this sort of modification that Roger is referring to. Also the same Ditto is publicly seen transforming into Howard's personal aid to push his wheelchair early in the film, which would surely have drawn attention had this not been a normal thing for Dittos to be capable of doing. 1.36.60.227 (talk) 17:01, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Box Office Mojo vs The Numbers

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Box Office Mojo says film grossed $206 million while The Numbers say $287 million. Which is the better source? I know Box Office Mojo is the most used in film articles. 2605:E000:2E52:FA00:2D8B:96D:B88F:7197 (talk) 02:43, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The numbers for DP are outdated on Box Office Mojo. Not sure about using the Numbers as a source but the numbers on there are up to date.We sould wait till BOM updates on there website.Timur9008 (talk) 10:29, 20, May 2019 (UTC)

Audience reception in lede?

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Audience reception is not generally noted in ledes; take a look at most film GAs or FAs. Audience response in ledes generally more relates to long-term cultural impacts, not audience polling, which while notable tend to give high scores for most films. Toa Nidhiki05 13:04, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FILMLEDE states the lede should include "reception of the film by critics and audiences". Just because other articles don't do it, that doesn't mean this article shouldn't. Maybe other articles don't do it because audience reception doesn't differ from critical reception. But for films where there's a discrepency between critical reception and audience reception, such as this film, it would make sense to mention audience reception. Maestro2016 (talk) 20:44, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 June 2019

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Pokemon Detective pikachu is the 6th highest grossing film of 2019


To whom this may concern I wish to edit the page titled Pokemon detective pikachu to reflect its position in the list of highest grossing film of 2019 . If permission to edit is not granted then can someone else who has permission add this bit of information. Hpdh4 20:28, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you. Additionally, if you want a fellow editor to add the information, please provide a reliable source. MrClog (talk) 22:35, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article reassessment

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Shouldn't this now be considered a B or C class article?Timur9008 (talk) 10:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 July 2019

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The result of the move request was: moved. Detective Pikachu has also been moved to Detective Pikachu (video game), and Detective Pikachu now disambiguates between the film and the video game. (non-admin closure)​ — Newslinger talk 01:00, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon Detective Pikachu → Detective Pikachu (film) – Per WP:COMMONNAME. SkyWarrior 23:16, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Box Office(436 vs 430.7)

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Are we sure this article is even accurate? All the articles seem to cite this Yahoo article.Timur9008 (talk) 17:57, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

https://news.yahoo.com/pok-mon-detective-pikachu-becomes-highest-grossing-video-103240549.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJxjhOQWeNFS54GvZSyY4XqRPsoC1kIWKHS0ubQ86JlyXEqo0usPkXfIP3t_CbAmpVL9Km7MBZ0Qr3g_nx30umKS_oAwApf8IFYb3XTqmtTzBAACB2FQjNw4e-sodWMItzyuUphm1ChMtDtP_zl46HezTh9uGhIGK4q7gurSwL9o

Budget(Marketing and production)

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Iseesky From the first citation.[1] The $150-million picture, featuring the voice of Ryan Reynolds, is expected to premiere with $55 million Friday through Sunday

From the second [2]

'Warner Bros are bringing an estimated total value of more than $100 million in promotional support to Legendary Entertainment’s Pokemon Detective Pikachu'

This implies the total budget is $250 million not $150 million. The first source only mentions the production budget as also mentioned here https://web.archive.org/web/20190614060302/https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=detectivepikachu.htm Timur9008 (talk) 6:18, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

CHANGE THE TITLE

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I saw why the title was changed to simply Detective Pikachu (WP:COMMONNAME), but it is honestly one of the worst reasons to change the title of a Wikipedia page. That idea should only apply to PEOPLE (look at all the examples in WP:COMMONNAME), as THEY can choose to be recognized in a different name (stage name, pseudonym, etc.), and we are to put how they are commonly called, or want to be called. It's like they have their own title. If we did every film with that rule, Zombieland: Double Tap would just be Zombieland 2, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales would be Pirates of the Caribbean 5, and Mad Max: Fury Road would be Mad Max (2015 film), but those are not the official titles, and shouldn't be reffered to as that. Also, we should only put those kind of titles in a note on the page (like with this one), or put the "(or simply *blank*)." Iamnoahflores (talk) 16:07, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Spoilers in the cast list

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Speaking about this snippet

"Ryan Reynolds as Harry Goodman, Tim's missing father and a veteran Ryme City police detective."

Shouldn't it list him in the role of Pikachu, since if you read the cast list via wiki before watching the film, you would be majorly spoiled on a big plot point if you happened to recognize the voice of Pikachu (or just having seen promotional material that mentions that Ryan Reynolds is voicing Pikachu)?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.197.32.6 (talk) 22:20, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The preceding plot section already has spoilers.Pikavoom (talk) 09:16, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I support listing Reynolds as voicing Pikachu at the start of the "Cast" section. We list primary roles first, and it is imbalanced to list Reynolds as Harry Goodman at the very beginning and his much bigger voice role in a subsection at the end of the main list. I think we should get rid of the "Voices" subsection (convert it to prose and add it to the existing paragraph at the end) and update the listing for Reynolds to something like, "Ryan Reynolds as the voice of Detective Pikachu, and at the film's end, as Tim's missing father Harry Goodman who had been fused with his Pokemon." While "Plot" covers this, it is mixed in with a lot of story detail, and it is appropriate for the "Cast" section to have a brief description of the role (or roles). Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 12:50, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Years ago Wikipedia posted spoiler warnings and often used hidden text markup to hide spoilers. But that's ancient history; now we follow the Wikipedia:Spoiler guideline and don't hold back in presenting valid plot points even if they might spoil the experience for a new viewer. Binksternet (talk) 16:32, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I agree the current wording is pretty bad. We could start by reverting back to the WP:STATUSQUO. As recently as January 2020, the section was much more reasonable, [3] but I haven't tracked down exactly when the change was made.
I hope we agree on some general principles such as: Plot should be in the Plot section not the cast section; Cast lists should be as credited in the film. (We dont need to explain who Kaiser Soze is in the intro or in the Cast list.)
It makes a lot more sense to list Ryan Reynolds as the voice of Pikachu, that is his primary role in the film. The end credits show a picture of Pikachu and Reynolds name [4](Youtube) and again in the long cast list it lists "Detective Pikachu Ryan Reynlods" [5](Youtube), he is not credited as Harry Goodman so it is inaccurate for the Cast section to list him as such.
The wording Erik proposed is very reasonable too because readers can see at "and at the end of the film" and stop reading, but my preference ("Kaiser Soze") would definitely be to leave plot to the plot section. If the plot section needs to improve that is another matter. -- 109.77.197.77 (talk) 16:14, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think I have tracked down the specific edit that removed Ryan Reynolds as Detective Pikachu. The change seems to have been made without any edit summary to explain the change by User:Rtkat3. I strongly support reverting this change and restoring the WP:STATUSQUO as soon as possible. It is the responsibility of editors to at least and explain their changes and more importantly to convince others why a character should be listed differently from how they are actually credited in the film. -- 109.77.197.77 (talk) 16:21, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The movie revealed that Harry was placed inside his Pikachu by Mewtwo in flashbacks, so this dual role by Ryan Reynolds should be listed in the cast list. Right? --Rtkat3 (talk) 17:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Look at the article before your change. It clearly showed that Ryan Reynolds played Pikachu, and also played Harry Goodman. It makes no sense to delete [correction: move to a subsection] the fact that Ryan Reynolds played Pikachu, and no reason has been given to explain that choice. I disagree with but I understand why someone might think it necessary to list both, I do not understand why you removed the main role he is officially credited with, and instead listed only Harry Goodman a role which is not even listed in the film credits. What the plot revealed belongs in the plot section, and I do not I agree with listing Harry Goodman in the Cast section at all. This isn't Kaiser Soze, this isn't Darth Vader, this is simple, we need to at least follow what the credit say, if we include anything else that should be a matter for further discussion.
I have restored the WP:STATUSQUO for now, even though I don't agree with listing Harry Goodman. [6] (I am not in any way related to the first anon IP who started this discussion or to any of the named users, my edits are the ones starting with 109.) -- 109.77.197.77 (talk) 17:57, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see now it was not simply a delete but a subsection split, that confusingly relegated the first listed main title role to a subsection near the bottom of the Cast list. There was no need for a subsection and it is strange to put the top billed actor below so many other Cast members without any explanation. I have reverted again[7] to more fully restore the WP:STATUSQUO before Rtkat3 changed it. (I still disagree with including the uncredited role of Harry Goodman at all, but I have not deleted it from the Cast list.) -- 109.77.197.77 (talk) 18:17, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 17 May 2020

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus against move. (non-admin closure) – Ammarpad (talk) 16:36, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Detective Pikachu (film) → Pokémon Detective Pikachu (film) – All other Pokémon movies on Wikipedia retain the Pokémon name in the title, and all marketing for the movie does as well. immewnity 04:48, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 15:03, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Genre

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As of September 2020 the intro of the article claimed this is a "urban fantasy mystery film". It appears to have been was changed from science fantasy to urban fantasy May 6, 2019 as part of a larger edit [8] with no particular explanation for the genre change (although it is possible it may have been explained elsewhere in another edit, I didn't do an exhaustive search). In April 2019 before the film was released it was labelled as a "fantasy mystery film", and before that it was labelled as a "science fiction action comedy mystery film".


What do the sources say?

  • Metacritic, Genre(s): Action, Adventure, Sci-Fi, Mystery, Fantasy, Comedy, Animation, Family [9]
  • Rotten Tomatoes, Genre: Action & Adventure, Animation, Kids & Family [10]
  • Entertainment Weekly, GENRE Adventure [11]
  • BFI Genres Children's Fantasy [12]
  • Warner Bros Action/Adventure, Animation, Family, Mystery, Sci-Fi/Fantasy [13]

Oh well, the sources aren't particularly helpful they list so many genres. I don't think urban fantasy is applicable, and I was going to suggest that it would be best to stick to primary genre only and describe it simply as mystery film? After looking at a semi-random sample of sources and since the most consistently listed genre is adventure maybe we should follow what the sources say and call it an adventure film? Is there a reliable source for film genres we should be references? -- 109.77.197.79 (talk) 23:30, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I shortened the genre to "mystery film" for now,[14] on the basis that it was already there and we can reasonably say it is based on sources, namely the official website. If there is a consensus to do something else I'm open to that too, so long as we can get something supported by sources. -- 109.78.216.45 (talk) 22:44, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Avoiding too many genres is prudent. Some sources, such as Metacritic, list any genre that could plausibly apply so that it shows up search results and listings, even if the listed genre is the primary type of the film. Pikavoom (talk) 08:10, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 6 July 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) WPscatter t/c 13:41, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Detective Pikachu (film) → Pokémon Detective Pikachu – Sources conflict whether the title is Pokemon Detective Pikachu or Detective Pikachu. Rotten Tomatoes, IMDb, Common Sense Media, and Metacritic have the title labelled as Pokemon Detective Pikachu, as does the site on WarnerBros.com. RMXY (talk) 12:59, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per first opposing vote. Killuminator (talk) 14:02, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose since I believe Detective Pikachu is the common name based on usage in the reference list (59 to 29, semi-manual count). This is in line with the consensus from the two previous move requests. ― Synpath 23:05, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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