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Crippled America

I took notes on the book while I was reading it. The article should mention that he wants to waive the federal income tax for anyone earning 25k or less per annum for example. Do we need to find third-party references for this, or would we have to give the page number in the book?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:26, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

I think a third-party reference would be preferred, though I wouldn't have a problem with using the book as a source if you include a brief quote in the citation template so readers can verify. Or, perhaps include both the book as a source and add a third-party source if one can be found? ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:51, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
The problem is the press has mostly lambasted the book, without reading it. I did a close reading. It's a serious book.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:54, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
My impression is that in book articles, the book itself (with page number) is a valid source for the "content" part of the article when the content is pretty straight forward (I asked about this issue when I reviewed a book article for DYK). Although, one should not cherrypick of course, but include the main themes/points in the book, and often it would be naturally to be relatively in line with what third party sources have focused on. Articles on books should also include background/context (if applicable), analysis (if applicable) and reception, and it's in those parts independent sources are necessary. Iselilja (talk) 21:08, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't want to sign up on this project, or create the template, but a footer template just about Donald Trump is coming close to being a necessity. That overlarge and possibly confusing 'Trump family' template is already mostly about Donald Trump, and much of it could be converted to a single-person template. Rumor is that Trump is going to build a wall around Wikipedia and make Britannica pay for it. Randy Kryn 22:36, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

p.s. Just had a look at the template again and it could fairly easily be organized to be a 'Donald Trump' traditional template with a large 'Family' section. Donald is obviously the most notable and the template likely wouldn't have been created without him. Randy Kryn 1:14, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
See Template talk:Trump for other proposed changes to the navbox. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:40, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Assessment

Just a warning to project participants: Since this project is brand new, a couple days may be needed for the WikiProject banner and assessment categories to work properly. Currently, the Donald Trump (Last Week Tonight) article is marked as GA-class, but the article does not appear in Category:GA-Class Donald Trump articles yet. Hoping there isn't another reason for this error... ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:55, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Update: I think assessment templates and categories should be working properly now. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:05, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
The Donald Trump articles by quality and importance shows only NA and ??? as importance. Please fix.--DThomsen8 (talk) 18:48, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

John Barron (pseudonym)

All are invited to improve/expand the John Barron (pseudonym). ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:11, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Donald Trump pseudonyms ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:41, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Hillary Clinton Supreme Court candidates and Donald Trump Supreme Court candidates‎

In keeping with previous articles in this series, I have created Hillary Clinton Supreme Court candidates and Donald Trump Supreme Court candidates‎. It is a bit earlier than usual, but there is the unusual circumstance of a sitting vacancy on the Supreme Court, and sourced information out there about the leanings of the candidates. Cheers! bd2412 T 23:26, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I added WikiProject Donald Trump, Politics, and United States banners to the talk pages. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:34, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Trump Village

Is anyone interested in helping me expand Trump Village please?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:36, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Another stub: Billboard of Donald Trump and Ted Cruz

Billboard of Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:25, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Update: Redirected to Planting Peace. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:11, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

RfC: Donald Trump's false campaign statements

You are invited to participate in Talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Donald Trump's false campaign statements. This invitation is also being posted at WT:WikiProject Hillary Clinton. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 17:44, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Notification of run-off vote

There is currently a poll taking place regarding the infobox image at the Donald Trump article talk page that project members might be interested in here. The polling is set to conclude on September 20, 2016. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 19:10, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Portal

I have just started on Portal:Donald Trump, I just wanted to let you guys know. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 03:31, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Looks great! ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:12, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Reassessing main-article quality

Should we reassess the Donald Trump article for quality?

Some of the facts in the article aren't supported by the cited sources or are actually contradicted by relevant mainstream sources. (One minor example appears in graf 3 in the lead, where the value given – which was prudently removed by the contributor but then reinstated by a second editor – for 'October 2016' is beginning could reasonably begin to diverge from the dynamic source, which is updated daily.) The article may now be getting too many questionable edits to verify in a timely way.

The lead seems to have become increasingly slanted toward recent events. I have to think that the article as a whole may now be in conflict with WP:BALAPS policy. --Dervorguilla (talk) 22:38, 17 October 2016 (UTC) 04:45, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Attention collaborators (ShadowDragon343—BabbaQ—Zigzig20s—FeralOink—Epicgenius—MB298—LM2000—Champion) Dervorguilla (talk) 23:42, 17 October 2016 (UTC) Attention collaborators (Another Believer—Dervorguilla) Dervorguilla (talk) 01:04, 18 October 2016 (UTC) Attention collaborators (Iselilja—Randy Kryn—Dthomsen8—EricEnfermero—BD2412—DrFleischman—1Wiki8Q5G7FviTHBac3dx8HhdNYwDVstR) Dervorguilla (talk) 03:44, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

I agree that the article is becoming increasingly focused on recent events. On that note, I think that we should wait until at least after November 8, Election Day to try to change this. On that day, the article is going to change significantly, as it depends on whether Trump wins or loses the election. epicgenius - (talk) 23:56, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: To clarify, do you think we should wait to try to change the article's assessment or wait to try to change its "becoming increasingly focused on recent events"? --Dervorguilla (talk) 04:02, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
I agree with Dervirguilla that we should wait to reassess and change the article drastically until after 8 November. After the results are in Trump could be president. And by that time article will be changed drastically no matter what. To do something assessment to major change wise right now would be pointless so close to the election.--BabbaQ (talk) 09:05, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
@Dervorguilla: Exactly, just like BabbaQ said. I wouldn't bet on Trump being elected though. He has a less than 20% chance of being elected as of now. epicgenius - (talk) 13:05, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
None of that sort of talk, please, epicgenius! We aren't talking about percentage likelihood chances of election here. Things changed since 18 October, and might change again between now and 8 November.--FeralOink (talk) 18:12, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
@Dervorguilla: I think I was unclear here. I meant that the recentism should be trimmed ASAP. As for the article quality, it should wait until after Election Day. epicgenius - (talk) 17:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
I think that recentism is something that always happens to articles when the article subject is in intense media spotlight for an extended period of time. Overall article standard etc will only be properly taken care of after 8 November. Any attempt to establish some 100% neutrality in the article will not be possible until after 8 November in my opinion. No matter what the result will be the article will most likely have a high number of edits for several days after the result day.BabbaQ (talk) 21:21, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
I also believe we should wait until the dust settles before seriously reassessing. Regarding recentism in ledes, the Talk:Donald Trump#Potential paragraph at end of lede on sex abuse allegations RfC may be of interest.LM2000 (talk) 00:01, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
@BabbaQ and LM2000: So I guess we should wait to reassess the article then? epicgenius - (talk) 01:34, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

It does sound like the current article is in significant conflict with WP:BALAPS policy. So in our assessment, at least, it's closer to C than B on the quality scale. --Dervorguilla (talk) 09:26, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, it does need some clean up. As the Donald would say, "Make Donald Trump B again!" epicgenius - (talk) 13:10, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
From my perspective, it seems like the article places undue weight on the sexual misconduct allegations, but I am not uncomfortable with the amount of WP:LEAD real-estate given to the presidential campaign. It's a key aspect of his WP:Notability. It has been a record-breaking presidential campaign with worldwide press coverage; in that respect, I don't think that the article as a whole conflicts with WP:BALASP. Parts of the lead paragraph, however, do. AlexEng (talk) 06:14, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject United States - The 50,000 Challenge

You are invited to participate in the 50,000 Challenge, aiming for 50,000 article improvements and creations for articles relating to the United States. This effort began on November 1, 2016 and to reach our goal, we will need editors like you to participate, expand, and create. See more here!

---Another Believer (Talk) 22:13, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Bibliography of Donald Trump

Should we try to create an article about each book, with book reviews each time?Zigzig20s (talk) 23:39, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm involved in far too many article creations and other Wikipedia projects right now, but I'm sure some of the books are notable enough for standalone articles. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:42, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Donald Trump's hair

Resolved

It was only a matter of time before Donald Trump's hair became an article. It's currently up for deletion, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump's hair.LM2000 (talk) 10:58, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Here's another AfD I just found, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of things named after Donald Trump.LM2000 (talk) 11:22, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Update: The result was redirect to Donald Trump#Hair. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:48, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Trump books: redirects for discussion

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See Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_September_14#Why_We_Want_You_to_be_Rich:_Two_Men_.E2.80.93_One_Message re: redirects for Donald Trump books. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:25, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Update: The result of the discussion was retarget to Bibliography of Donald Trump. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:49, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Myron Ebell

Myron Ebell is on Trump's transition team for the EPA. Major POV issue; I tried to help/trim a little, but should we add it to this WP?Zigzig20s (talk) 00:45, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

I added, though someone who disagrees is welcome to revert. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:47, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
OK, there is a very aggressive POV-pushing editor there by the way...Zigzig20s (talk) 00:50, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Donald Trump barnstar?

Do we need a WikiProject barnstar? I made a quick attempt at a draft. Comments? LavaBaron (talk) 02:55, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

The Donald Trumpstar

For good work on Trump-related articles. LavaBaron (talk) 02:55, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

@LavaBaron: I had a crudely-made composite image one; I'll display it below. Thanks for creating! MB298 (talk) 03:34, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
The Donald Trump Barnstar

Trump travel article

As has been done with other presidents, I have created an article to document Donald Trump's official presidential travel. The article is here: List of presidential trips made by Donald Trump during 2017. Anyway, I wanted the members of WP:Donald Trump to be aware of this. Happy editing! Juneau Mike (talk) 23:48, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. My vote is to redirect until appropriate to go live. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:48, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
There is also another article called First 100 days of Donald Trump's presidency. I have added the fact that he had announced his plan in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania weeks before the end of the election. Yoshiman6464 (talk) 05:49, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Falsified quality ratings at Donald Trump?

The Donald Trump Talk page banner has been changed to read: "Wikipedia:WikiProject Donald Trump (Rated B-class, Top-importance)". But we're actually rating it C-class.

(The banner was also changed to say that thirteen other WikiProjects rate it B-class; I think most of them may actually be rating it C-class too.) --Dervorguilla (talk) 23:30, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

New article

As part of my participation in the WikiProject, I have just created the article: 2016 Portland riot. I have tried to be fair, and maintain a neutral point of view. I also created the "Category:Reactions to the election of Donald Trump". I believe the Portland riot is clearly notable, and would appreciate the thoughts, and participation, of other editors. Thanks! Juneau Mike (talk) 17:10, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:38, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Rape claim

There's an RfC at Talk:Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations#RfC: Jane Doe content that has gone stale but isn't closed yet, you may want to chime in there. There is also Legal affairs of Donald Trump#Rape claim, which should be looked into after that. I previously blanked it as it's mainly sourced to blogs like Daily Kos, Huffington Post and The Daily Mail.LM2000 (talk) 08:31, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Research Project

I'm investigating potential systemic bias in political topics on Wikipedia. My sample set is a catalog of Clinton and Trump-related disciplinary sanctions. My sources so far include the Arbitration Enforcement pages (and archives) and the Discretionary Sanctions log (link). If members are interested I'd welcome a collaborative effort including verification and correction, and addition of political topic bans and blocks recorded/applied elsewhere and AE remedies applied prior to 7/26/2016. James J. Lambden (talk) 21:16, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

New article: "/r/The_Donald"

I have created /r/The_Donald article to address a major component of Trump support through this controversial subreddit. Yoshiman6464 (talk) 02:35, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Added article Office of the President-Elect

I just tagged existing article, Office of the President-Elect to WikiProject Donald Trump. First, it belongs as part of our WikiProject as Trump is using the Office of President-Elect during his transition, see article for details. Secondly, the article is tagged as WikiProject Barack Obama, so it should be part of our WikiProject as well.--FeralOink (talk) 22:18, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Barron Trump

There is a discussion concerning notability of Barron Trump. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:20, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

What does the First Couple-Elect want for their son Barron. The Clintons had wanted privacy for Chelsea. Oh, privacy! Yes. MaynardClark (talk) 22:34, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

RfC notice

Resolved

There is an RfC at Talk:Bibliography_of_Donald_Trump. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 21:04, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Articles of questionable relevance to our WikiProject

I don't want to get into an edit war with fellow centipedes Wikipedians but I have some hesitation about articles that are minimally relevant to our WikiProject. I wanted to remove Towers Pune from WikiProject DT but ran into objections. Would any other editors be willing to convince me why this building project with no real association with Trump should be included? I am trying to be open minded, so I would appreciate helpful insights.--FeralOink (talk) 03:49, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Political appointments of Donald Trump

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Why isn't Political appointments of Donald Trump part of WikiProject Donald Trump? Classicwiki (talk) 17:41, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

... because no one added the project banner yet. I just added. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:39, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Comments on RfC Donald Trump requested

There is currently an RfC about the outcome of the presidential election here. Participation would be appreciated. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Trump: Surviving at the Top

Editors are welcome to help expand the newly-created Trump: Surviving at the Top. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:53, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Template:Trump businesses

Is it just me, or should the "Satires of Donald Trump" section be removed from Template:Trump businesses? I don't see what any of these entries have to do with Trump's businesses... ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:27, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Agreed. The various templates appear to be in a mess. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 06:41, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Another Believer, also, I believe the section on Public image may also require a split. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 06:49, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Agreed. The various Trump templates are a huge mess right now. Hopefully they will sort themselves out with so many people editing Trump-related articles right now (and for the next few years at least). ---Another Believer (Talk) 07:01, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 Done – I was in the midst of splitting the templates on that day. See {{Trump businesses}}, {{Trump family}}, {{Trump media}} and {{Trump presidency}} (which still needs editing and perhaps merging back with {{Donald Trump}}). — JFG talk 03:45, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Sippenhaft

There is a discussion on the Sippenhaft talk page on whether or not to include then candidates statement to kill terrorist's families as a usage of sippenhaft. Currently, the article only lists actual cases, not proposed. Please comment on the talk page. Sir Joseph (talk) 16:13, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

"Tiny Hands"

Project members are welcome to help expand "Tiny Hands", which is about Fiona Apple's protest chant/song leading up to the Women's March on Washington. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:40, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Userbox

I've made a userbox for members of this project, which you can see at {{User WikiProject Donald Trump}}. I thought I'd run it past here before posting it on the project page to see if you have any thoughts on it.LM2000 (talk) 13:43, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

@LM2000: Thanks for creating and sharing. I changed the wording slightly, but feel free to revert. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:33, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

January 21 marches

Related to the Women's March on Washington, I'm working on a draft article about the satellite event in Portland, Oregon, which I plan to move into the main space this weekend. Folks are welcome to contribute to the draft for the time being, if interested, or create separate drafts about marches in other cities. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:44, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Efforts to impeach Donald Trump

I have taken a stab at beginning an article on efforts to impeach Donald Trump, modeled after Efforts to impeach Barack Obama and Efforts to impeach George W. Bush. I am on the fence about whether it is too early to move to mainspace, but this has been a very unusual election cycle all around (for example, I created Donald Trump Supreme Court candidates far earlier than the usual time frame for creation of those articles because of the early Supreme Court vacancy). Thoughts? bd2412 T 17:29, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Ridiculous--and, for the sake of policy, too early.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Also, is there not a problem with recentism here? Do we have similar articles for Carter, Andrew Johnson, etc.?Zigzig20s (talk) 17:39, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
If there are sources discussing efforts to impeach Carter, there should be an article. We do have an article on the Andrew Johnson impeachment. If there was an effort leading up to this, it would have been moved to the "Impeachment of" title once it had culminated in impeachment. bd2412 T 17:50, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
If you're on the fence about moving the draft into the main space, then wait a while, but thanks for getting the ball rolling. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:42, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
At this point all you have is various comments. To create an article you need to show that reliable secondary sources have pulled it all together and made it into a topic. Otherwise it is just biased synthesis. If and when the mainstream begins reporting the topic, we will have opinions expressed by opponents of impeachment and informed commentary from experts. So we can determine whether an informed opinion is that people calling for impeachment are a serious force or not. Note that history treats the moves to impeach Nixon and Clinton differently. In the meantime, the anti-Trump protests have enough coverage for an article, if that has not been done already. TFD (talk) 19:00, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
I will try to find sources indicating that members of Congress or legal experts have articulated specific grounds for impeachment, then. bd2412 T 19:51, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Move request

There iis a requested move discussion currently taking place at Talk:Trump. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:56, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

USA Freedom Kids

I created a stub for USA Freedom Kids. All are invited to help expand! ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:51, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Update: This article is nominated for deletion. Feel free to participate in the ongoing discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/USA Freedom Kids. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:13, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

The article was kept. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:27, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

AfD

Resolved

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump email controversy is currently being discussed.LM2000 (talk) 02:50, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

The result was "Redirect to Legal affairs of Donald Trump". ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:28, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Draft:@POTUS

Feel free to help expanding the Draft. See also related discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2017_January_22#.40POTUS - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:19, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I added a few WikiProject banners to the talk page, so hopefully more editors will find there way to this draft and help expand. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:31, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merge of "2017 United States Presidential Inauguration riots" into "Protests against Donald Trump"

I have initiated a merge proposal of the above mentioned articles. Discussion here. 2601:644:2:B64B:8183:231:EF80:A576 (talk) 22:43, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Related: Inauguration of Donald Trump protests. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:45, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Taco trucks on every corner

Resolved

I gathered some references and stuck them on Draft:Taco trucks on every corner. Do project members think this phrase may be notable enough for a stand-alone article? Please feel free to discuss on Draft talk:Taco trucks on every corner. -- 1Wiki8........................... (talk) 21:46, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

 Marking this section as resolved since the draft has been moved to main space ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:15, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

New article: "Trumpism"

I just created a new article, Trumpism, to address the Trumpist ideology as distinct from the political positions of Donald Trump. LavaBaron (talk) 08:23, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

This article has now been AfD'ed if anyone here is interested in opining in favor of Keep or Delete. "Bulletproof" LavaBaron (Survivor of 4 DYK TBAN Attempts) (talk) 17:57, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
The article has been redirected to Political positions of Donald Trump. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:17, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

RM notice

Resolved

There is a relevant discussion taking place at Talk:Melania, regards. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 01:57, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

The result of the move request was: not moved. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Opinion polling master tracker article

I've created Donald Trump's presidential approval rating. DarjeelingTea (talk) 14:23, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. The page has been moved to Opinion polling on the Donald Trump administration. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:20, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Automatic archiving?

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Request: Is someone able to set up automatic archiving for this talk page? ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:22, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

I added archiving, hopefully it works. I set it to 90 days. Sir Joseph (talk) 16:41, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:49, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Bowling Green massacre

I encourage project members to take a look at Bowling Green massacre and its talk page to help determine the fate of this article. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:49, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Stub: Americans Against Insecure Billionaires with Tiny Hands

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I created the stub Americans Against Insecure Billionaires with Tiny Hands. All are welcome to expand/improve. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:26, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

This article has been nominated for deletion... again... ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:25, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

This AfD discussion has been relisted and needs more participants: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Americans Against Insecure Billionaires with Tiny Hands (2nd nomination). ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:50, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Sculpture

Do any project members know if there has been a discussion about the appropriateness of an article about this series of Trump sculptures?

...etc. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:55, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

I went ahead and created The Emperor Has No Balls, forking over some content from the Indecline article. I think the sculpture series has definitely received enough coverage to justify a standalone article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:29, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
If anyone has a picture they can upload under fair use, this article needs an illustration. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:49, 20 January 2017 (UTC) The article is now illustrated. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:18, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Never mind, the image was deleted, so now the article is unillustrated again. Does anyone have an image to upload under fair use? ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:44, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

List of terrorist attacks on Wikipedia?

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone had incorporated or started a list of the 78 terror attacks that the White House released to illustrate the point Trump made at MacDill Air Force base: "Since ISIS declared its caliphate, there has been a major attack targeting the West executed or inspired by the group more than once every two weeks. Most have not received the media attention they deserved." Terrorism list, as found on Politifact. -- Fuzheado | Talk 14:41, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Refusal to consult with his own counsel

I do not believe it will be a BLP issue to insert critical verbiage of Mr. Trump's inability/unwillingness to ask his own legal counsel for advice. His unilateralism should be admonished in the article as well. --Worldwide edit account (talk) 16:12, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Day Without Immigrants 2017

Project members are invited to expand and improve the newly-created Day Without Immigrants 2017 article. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:03, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

some help taking over the polling page

Opinion polling on the Donald Trump administration has been accused of numerous NPOV violations a few minutes ago. Despite my best efforts to encourage other editors, I've been the only person working on this page since it started. I thought it was an area that, because it just dealt with numbers, couldn't become controversial; I try to avoid controversy pages so I think I'm going to stop working on it but I wanted to drop a quick note here strongly encouraging all persons interested in this topic to give it some attention so it doesn't stagnate. Thank you. DarjeelingTea (talk) 03:33, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Jamal Khashoggi

Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi journalist, was reportedly banned from getting his work published after criticizing Trump. Obviously, this appears to be a case of freedom of the press (or lack thereof) in Saudi Arabia, not Trump's fault. However, could someone please fix the subsection, currently sourced with RT in Spanish? As far as I can tell, RT is not a reliable third-party source by Wikipedia standards. Here's another RT article in English:

  • "Saudi journalist banned from writing after criticizing Trump". RT. December 6, 2016. Retrieved February 14, 2017.

I have also found an article on the Middle East Eye website, which may be a reliable third-party source:

Is anyone able to find any coverage in The New York Times or The Washington Post please? In any case, I would appreciate it if someone else could update this subsection in the article appropriately. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 14:29, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Zigzig20s - it was covered in The Independent [1] which is RS. DarjeelingTea (talk) 03:34, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
User:DarjeelingTea: Would you like to update the article for us please?Zigzig20s (talk) 03:38, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 Done [2], Zigzig20s DarjeelingTea (talk) 03:46, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:49, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Executive Order redirects

I've redirected Executive Order 13773, Executive Order 13774, Executive Order 13775, and Executive Order 13776 to List of executive actions by Donald Trump. Feel free to expand if there's enough coverage to justify standalone articles. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:27, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Motion to form comittee

It is truly impossible to run an impartial anything when it comes to politics. Therefore the easiest way to obtain a fair consensus and direction is to have an equal number of declared supporters and opponents involved in the discussion. Having people hide their political views will either swing this project to be too pro-Donald Trump or to anti-Donald Trump and in a position in which is is certain to fail WP:NPOV. At the very least a committee should be formed of an equal amount of declaed pro-Trump and anti-Trump users to ensure the artiles covered by this projet are fair, balanced and NPOV. Bomberswarm2 (talk) 12:19, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

See: Talk:Demagogue#RfC_on_Donald_Trump_inclusion. – S. Rich (talk) 01:45, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

John F. Kennedy International Airport protest

I just created John F. Kennedy International Airport protest and invite project members to help expand this article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:35, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Update: The page has been moved to 2017 United States Donald Trump airport protests, and there is an ongoing discussion to move the page again. Feel free to add your $0.02. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:20, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 Moved to Protests against Executive Order 13769 ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:27, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Entry on "Falsehoods of the Trump Administration"?

Dear Wikipedia users,

I am a new user and in order to counteract the current trend of "post-truth" I would like to create an list entry on "Falsehoods of the Trump Administration". I believe it could be a useful resource for journalists and the public and have started drafting it here List of falsehoods of the Trump Administration. However I am not sure it is neutral/objective enough in its current form. I am thus wondering if you could provide some guidance as to how to draft this for it to be published.

Kind wishes and thanks in advance,

FelixundStein (talk) 13:35, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi FelixundStein! You might want to look at Bushism. It could help you with the article. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:18, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Donald Trump speech to joint session of Congress, February 2017

Project members are invited to improve Donald Trump speech to joint session of Congress, February 2017. ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:04, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Hate crimes

There seems to have been an increase in various types of hate crimes due to the affect of Trump on the political landscape. I'd like to write about those, but I'm not sure where to best put them, or if they would warrant their own article discussing the issue. Thanks in advance! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:21, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

The article would most likely be a violation of SYNTH and OR. Consider that the FBI reports that when a religion is the target, it is more often than not, Jews as the target. They also report growing anti-semitic incidents for quite a few years, not just since Trump. So to say that Trump is the cause is incorrect. Sir Joseph (talk) 16:17, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
@Sir Joseph: Raw data on hate crimes are compiled locally, not nationally, and monthly, not daily. So your comment that "there seems to have been an increase in various types of hate crimes" is important information. How did you find this out? --Dervorguilla (talk) 03:51, 7 March 2017 (UTC).
I didn't say that. Sir Joseph (talk) 04:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Day Without a Woman

I created a draft at Draft:Day Without a Woman and invite project members to help expand. I figured starting in the draft space might be preferable since some protest articles have been nominated for AfD lately. Also, I'm still on the fence about whether the article should live at 'Day Without a Women' or 'A Day Without a Woman'. All are invited to contribute! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:41, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

I've request a move to the main space so editors can collaborate further. --Another Believer (Talk) 20:17, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 Moved to Day Without a Woman ---Another Believer (Talk) 05:40, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Not My Presidents Day

Project members are welcome to assist with the expansion of Not My Presidents Day. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:38, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Not My Presidents Day. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:26, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
*sigh*, the result was merge. I think we got it wrong this time (I strongly oppose the merge), but I created a discussion at Talk:Protests_against_Donald_Trump#.22Not_My_Presidents_Day.22_article_merge for editors to discuss the merge in more detail. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:14, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

If any project members are interested in helping out, we're currently recruiting editors to research demonstrations held in specific cities in order to ensure the article's completeness. See the article's talk page for more information. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:18, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

There is now a Request for comment if project members wish to contribute to an ongoing discussion about whether or not this article should be kept. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:40, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

This discussion was closed and a new one was started at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2017 March 24. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:46, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
Update: The deletion review discussion was closed as "No Consensus". Another editor and I have nominated this article for Good status. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:56, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Help required

Hi all. Quick question. Colleague here at the University of Edinburgh, FelixundStein, created a draft article Draft:List of falsehoods of the Trump Administration and it initially got turned down in the AfC review. He's since tidied it up and I think there's some good content there but he's been waiting for 2 weeks + for the article to be reviewed once more because of the backlog. We may need to change the title of the page to something less inflammatory and the Corrections column could be slightly rephrased to remove phrases like Both numbers are false (believe the facts are more damning without any editor's notes attached) but otherwise I'd like to crowdsource opinion as to whether the article could stand, either as part of another related article, or on its own two feet? Out of interest I see there is another draft awaiting review Draft:Timeline of the Trump-Russia Scandal and the Donald Trump wiretapping claim article so we're in the same ballpark, right? @Megalibrarygirl and Another Believer:. What do you think? Best, Stinglehammer (talk) 16:35, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

2018 United States federal budget

I have started a short article on the 2018 United States federal budget, which project members are welcome to help expand. There is a lot to cover (mostly the department-level cuts and program cuts), and this will likely be a hot-button issue for a few weeks. SounderBruce 18:53, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:08, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Draft:You're the puppet

I'm working on a few other Trump-related articles at the moment, but I created Draft:You're the puppet as a reminder to expand later. I invite project members to help, if interested. Could be an interesting article to work on. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:53, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Interesting for sure, but I don't think it is notable enough for a standalone article. MB298 (talk) 01:09, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Possibly, but worth investigating. There is an existing article for "Nasty woman", which was (I believe) said by Trump about Clinton during the same debate. Perhaps these two topics should be merged into an article about the third presidential debate. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:16, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

RfC Donald Trump talk page

Please comment on the RfC on the Donald Trump talk page regarding whether or not to open a section on LGBT rights in the Domestic Policy section of the Donald Trump article here. Thank you. SW3 5DL (talk) 01:42, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

"Nasty woman"

Resolved

The article for "Nasty woman" has been nominated for deletion. Project members are invited to participate in the AfD discussion here, if interested: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nasty woman. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:56, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

The result was no consensus. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:12, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Portland Women March Against Hate

Resolved

Project members are invited to participate in the AfD discussion re: Portland Women March Against Hate. I've expressed an interest in moving the article to March Against Hate, and expanding its scope to cover more than just Portland. I welcome editors to either contribute to the ongoing discussion or help expand this article's section for other cities. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:14, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

☒N Deleted ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:29, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

March 4 Trump

I started Draft:March 4 Trump, if project members want to contribute as things progress. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:41, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

 Page moved to March 4 Trump. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:16, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Donald Trump wiretapping claim

Project members are welcome to assist with the expansion of the Donald Trump wiretapping claim article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:29, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

 Page moved to Trump Tower wiretapping allegations. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:16, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

2017 dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy

Project members are welcome to assist with the expansion of 2017 dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:34, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

 Page moved to 2017 dismissal of U.S. attorneys. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:16, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Gays for Trump

I created a stub for Gays for Trump because of a request made at WikiProject LGBT studies. However, the article has been marked for deletion. I invite project members to please help expand the article and/or express your thoughts re: deletion on the article's talk page. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:58, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

LGBT protests against Donald Trump

I created the article LGBT protests against Donald Trump, if any project members want to help expand. There are more sources and events to research on the article's talk page. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:51, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

On a related note, I posted a similar message at WikiProject LGBT studies, and someone asked if I would be willing to create a stub for Gays for Trump. I threw together a quick stub before bed, so feel free to help expand if interested. ---Another Believer (Talk) 06:08, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Template:Trump presidency

I also invite project members to participate in this discussion about whether or not the LGBT protests against Donald Trump article belongs in the navigation box Template:Trump presidency. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:48, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Lead sentence in main article

You're invited to join a talk page discussion about the lead sentence in Donald Trump. --Dervorguilla (talk) 01:45, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

RfC on Donald Trump regarding 'current president' in the lede sentence

Your participation is requested in the RfC regarding use of the word 'current' in the lede sentence of Donald Trump's BLP here. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 17:05, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Another RfC but with specific language to be used to describe Donald Trump as the president

Please comment on this RfC which is asking for specific language to describe Donald Trump as the president here. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 03:53, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Donald Trump regarding the proposed new lede

Please comment regarding the lede sentence. Thank you. SW3 5DL (talk) 19:52, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

People's Climate Mobilization

Resolved

I created an article for the upcoming People's Climate Mobilization, which has also been called the People's Climate March but should not be confused with the 2014 event in New York City. I went ahead and added the "WikiProject Donald Trump" banner to the article's talk page, but I'd like project members to help decide whether or not this article should be considered part of the "Trump protests" series. Organizers are directing demands at Trump, but they've also acknowledge that planning for the demonstration began prior to the election, and they would have organized a similar event had Hillary Clinton won the election. In other words, this protest is related to Trump, but (at least not from what I've seen so far) not necessarily a reaction to Trump's election and a protest again him and his presidency. I've only read a few sources so far, and this sentiment might change between now and the day of the event, but I could use help expanding the article from others, if you have any interest. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:41, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Update: Project members and page watchers can participating in the AfD discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/People's Climate Mobilization. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:15, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

The article was deleted, which is absurd, so I went ahead and created a draft here: Draft:People's Climate March (2017). Project members are invited to contribute! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:37, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Shall we merge the American Desk with the White House National Trade Council?

We need to update the American Desk, which I created during the campaign. It looks like the White House National Trade Council serves a similar purpose. Is there any RS to confirm that it is the same entity, in which case we could merge them?Zigzig20s (talk) 00:36, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

I would actually consider deleting American Desk in accordance with WP:CRYSTAL. It's just a proposal by Trump, and nothing concrete has actually been done yet. Werónika (talk) 06:28, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

May Day protests = Protests against Donald Trump?

Project members are invited to contribute to the discussion at Talk:2017 May Day protests re: whether or not the May Day protests article should include the "Protests against Trump" sidebar and category. Thanks. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:06, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Assessment

I'd like a third-party to assess the article Donald Trump presidential campaign, 2020. I feel it might warrant a higher assessment than C-class, but I am far to involved in editing the article to have a non-biased opinion of it. Because of that, I am wary to upgrade it past C-class myself.

Much appreciated! SecretName101 (talk) 04:31, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

@SecretName101:  Working Woebegone (talk) 08:27, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Should Nasty Woman Movement and/or Nasty woman be added to the Trump protests sidebar?

Should Nasty Woman Movement and/or Nasty woman be added to Template:Protests against Trump sidebar? ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:15, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

@Another Believer: In my opinion, yes, definitely. The "Nasty woman" slogan originated out of the presidential election. Woebegone (talk) 08:27, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
OK, I added the links to the template for now. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:29, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Breitbart tutorial on BLP

Tom Ciccotta, "UC Berkeley Professor Banned from Wikipedia over Anti-Trump Edit Project", Breitbart, May 9, 2017.

A course description for [Professor] Gelobter’s course on environmental justice activism at UC Berkeley posted on Wikipedia argued that the first few months of the Trump administration have been uniquely “anti-environmental, sexist, and racist.”
The post was ultimately removed, as Wikipedia prevents unsourced negative claims about living people. A Wikipedia editor said that the line about the Trump administration was a “blatant BLP [Biography of Living Person] violation,” which means that commentary on a living person does not come from a “neutral point of view.”

--Dervorguilla (talk) 22:09, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

New article proposal: Lexicology of Donald Trump

Comments, hate, discouragements and encouragements are encouraged. —አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 01:22, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Userbox

I see there are 2 pro-Trump user boxes. For the sake of neutrality, I'm wondering if we should display 1 or 2 user boxes expressing the opposite? ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:22, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Update: Another editor removed the user boxes. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:35, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

March for Truth

Project members are invited to help expand Draft:March for Truth. Thanks. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:08, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

I move the draft into the main space: March for Truth. ---Another Believer (Talk) 05:07, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Trump Image

Please see Talk:Donald Trump#Infobox image (sorry, sorry, sorry) for information about the image. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 18:33, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

National Pride March

I created Draft:National Pride March and invite page watchers to help with its expansion. I am sharing here because this source mentions opposition to Donald Trump. I am also wondering if the planned protest should be mentioned briefly under the "Planned protests" section of the Protests against Donald Trump article? There are sources on the draft's talk page. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:35, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

I went ahead and moved the article into the main space. Project members are invited to help expand National Pride March. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:07, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Impeachment March

Resolved

Project members are invited to participate in this discussion over whether or not the Impeachment March article should be merged into Efforts to impeach Donald Trump. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:00, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity

You are invited to participate in Talk:Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity#RfC: Russian interference in Background section. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 17:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm archiving this section since the discussion has closed. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:18, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Elijah Daniel for deletion

Resolved

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Elijah Daniel is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elijah Daniel (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Sagecandor (talk) 04:18, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Not too often you see articles nominated for deletion and good article status simultaneously. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:28, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
This is a neutral deletion debate notification so I will not comment on that here. Suffice it to say it is a valid and legitimate good article nomination. Sagecandor (talk) 14:32, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

 Kept ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:55, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

AfD re Trump's Handshakes

Resolved

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump's handshakes.

Onceinawhile (talk) 19:59, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

@Onceinawhile:Thank you for posting a neutrally worded and matter-of-fact notification here to this WikiProject talk page. Sagecandor (talk) 20:02, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Closed as no consensus. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:53, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

RfC about the author credits of first edition in first sentence in book article

RfC about the author credits of first edition in first sentence in a book article.

Please see Request for Comment, at Talk:Trump_Tower:_A_Novel#RfC_about_the_author_credits_of_first_edition_in_first_sentence. Sagecandor (talk) 19:01, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

RfC about inclusion of films in Bibliography of Donald Trump

RfC about inclusion of films in Bibliography of Donald Trump:

Discussion at Talk:Bibliography_of_Donald_Trump#RfC_about_inclusion_of_films_in_Bibliography_of_Donald_Trump. Sagecandor (talk) 04:12, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

RfC at /r/The_Donald

Resolved

You're invited to participate in an RfC at /r/The_Donald about whether the lead sentence should or should not define and identify this forum community as alt-right. --Dervorguilla (talk) 01:44, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

This discussion has closed, so I am marking this section as resolved and archiving. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:20, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Portrait of Trump during election cycle

You are invited to comment at Talk:United States presidential election, 2016#Anachronistic Trump portrait. — JFG talk 00:21, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

2017 National Scout Jamboree

I added Category:Presidency of Donald Trump to the 2017 National Scout Jamboree article, and added the WikiProject Donald Trump banner to its talk page. Perhaps a bit tangential, but does seem within the scope of this project. ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:11, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Trump Unity Bridge

Resolved

Trump Unity Bridge was been nominated for deletion right after being created. You can participate in the ongoing deletion discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trump Unity Bridge. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:19, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

The article was kept. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:20, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

"Tiny Hands"

Resolved

Project members are invited to participate in the ongoing deletion discussion about Fiona Apple's protest song "Tiny Hands" for the 2017 Women's March at the following link: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tiny Hands. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:02, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

The article was kept. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:21, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

RfC about Donald Trump the presumptive Republican nominee as of June 18, 2016

RfC about whether it is correct to say that Donald Trump was the presumptive Republican nominee as of June 18, 2016.

Please see Talk:Attempted assassination of Donald Trump#RfC: Presumptive nominee. —Anomalocaris (talk) 05:28, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Redirects

There are 100+ entries at Category:Redirect-Class Donald Trump articles. Feel free to convert a redirect into a stub, if appropriate! ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:31, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Good article nominations

Wow, there are currently 11 Trump-related articles nominated for Good status. Check them out here, and of course, feel free to make any improvements: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Donald_Trump/Article_alerts#GAN. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:04, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

@Another Believer:Thank you for recognizing my efforts to improve Wikipedia with high quality article creations ! Some of these were inspired by redirect pages you and others created, as you noted, above, at [3]. Sagecandor (talk) 21:11, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

NBC controversy

There is a discussion on the talkpage of NBC about whether or not referenced content about a history of remarks and incidents about President Trump should be included in the article or not. You are welcome to let us know if that should be the case, or not, on that talkpage. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:30, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s:Thank you for adding a notice here. Was there a Request for Comment or prior history of a Third Opinion ? Sagecandor (talk) 21:12, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Just a topic to see if we can restore the referenced content without going through the time-consuming process of an RfC. Right now only one editor has removed it twice, and I don't want to edit-war with them. However, if we feel that we need an RfC, we could start it...Zigzig20s (talk) 21:17, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Okay, what about Third Opinion maybe? Sagecandor (talk) 21:18, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Feel free to let us know if this referenced content should have been removed or not. The discussion should take place on the NBC talkpage. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:24, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Commented. You may also wish to notify a few other WikiProject talk pages with neutrally worded matter of fact notices. Sagecandor (talk) 21:32, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Not sure where.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:02, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Template:Donald Trump series

Unresolved

PerfectlyIrrational updated Template:Donald Trump series to include protests, then updated a bunch of Trump-related articles by adding this template. This template now includes some of the same links as Template:Protests against Trump sidebar and Template:Trump presidency. I think this conversation has already started in a couple different locations, but can we discuss how to reduce redundancy between these 3 templates and fix the articles accordingly? ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:14, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

@PerfectlyIrrational: In case you wish to contribute to this discussion. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:00, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
This has been resolved for now (the protests have been removed from the template, and the template has been removed from a series of protest-related articles). ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:29, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

So the "Protests again Trump sidebar" was converted to Template:Protests against Trump footer. I don't have a problem with this conversion, but we still have the problem of redundancy with Template:Presidency of Donald Trump, which has a section with the same protest links. Should these template be combined? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:23, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Yeah, I'm not really sure when sidebars are preferred, and I'm not opposed to converting the Trump series sidebar to a navigation footer template, but we definitely need to address the problem with articles displaying sometimes as many as three templates with the same links. The redundancy here must be addressed. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:31, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Agree the redundancy here must be addressed. And if they're all converted to footer templates, with appropriate sections in them by topic to make it easier for our WP:Readers first to find stuff, then there's more room for more links, and I wouldn't mind redundancy in that case, then. Sagecandor (talk) 15:33, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Donald Trump Jr. meeting Russian lawyer merge proposal

Please see Talk:Trump_campaign–Russian_meeting#Merger_proposal. Sagecandor (talk) 23:38, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

March 4 Trump

So, the head of Gays for Trump has been asking editors to improve the March 4 Trump and Gays for Trump articles (see talk pages). I might get around to working on the M4T article, but I am currently focused on expanding and promoting Impeachment March to Good article status (see? I can be neutral! :p) In the meantime, are there any editors who are interested in working on the March 4 Trump article? I'd love to see this promoted to Good status as well, and I don't think the article would take too long to expand. Just trying to get more eyes on this article, and see if there are editors willing to help. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:19, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

First goal would be to improve the articles, so they both amply demonstrate notability, so they don't get deleted from Wikipedia. Sagecandor (talk) 17:02, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

You are invited to comment at Template talk:Donald Trump series#Too many articles about Russia. — JFG talk 05:22, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

RfC about Russian affairs in Trump sidebar

You are invited to participate in Template talk:Donald Trump series#RfC: Selection and display of articles about Russia. — JFG talk 16:55, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Lara Trump

I think she should have her own article instead of being redirected to Eric Trump. She is on Fox News all the time and clearly notable. Would anyone like to create it please?Zigzig20s (talk) 07:20, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Photoshopped/fake picture?

Does this not look like a photoshopped/fake picture to you? See my comment there. The picture is used in the Mar-a-Lago article...Zigzig20s (talk) 00:03, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

2017 Unite the Right rally

I added the WikiProject Trump banner to 2017 Unite the Right rally's talk page, but my edit was reverted. I added the tag because the word "Trump" appeared in the prose 24 times. I'll let other project members decide if we want to tag the article as part of this project or not. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:29, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

As American Health Care Act of 2017 isn't in this project, it seems likely that this article doesn't need to be either. However, there's probably a 50% chance Trump says something in the next 48 hours that changes my view here. Power~enwiki (talk) 04:36, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
David Duke: "This represents a turning point for the people of this country. We are determined to take our country back, we're going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump, and that's what we believed in, that's why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he's going to take our country back and that's what we gotta do." This (and AHCA) are relevant to Trump. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:11, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
+1 ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:13, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
Knowing the President, he just did something to further fan the flames: let's tag the article. Javert2113 (talk) 20:35, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
I'll also note, searching for the word "Trump" on the page yields 77 returns. I'll add the WikiProject banner back and we can continue to discuss here. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:30, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
I've clicked the CNN livestream on YouTube ten or eleven times over the past three days, and every single time, they were talking about Trump's reaction to this thing instead of the thing. Morning, afternoon and night, it's "breaking news". Well, except when it was an insurance commercial. This suggests he's a huge part of it. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:37, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Donald Trump's Real Estate Tycoon

Hello- please see Talk:Donald Trump's Real Estate Tycoon#Mentioning the fact that Trump is a future US president. I would like to generate consensus on how to proceed. CatcherStorm talk 05:59, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Lara Trump stub

An stub of an article is at Lara Trump. Looks like this article has not been noticed much. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:04, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Mother of All Rallies

Project members are welcome to assist with the expansion of Mother of All Rallies, which is happening today. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:05, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

William Browder's Testimony, The Magintsky Act. Trump Jr.. Natasha V., etc.

Browder's Testimony to the Senate Committee in July included a lot of info that could add context to some wiki pages, but I am having trouble finding good sources (other than the direct source, c-span) who describe the findings that need addressing, Worried parts will get removed on the technicality so will leave a summary here for the more wiki-savvy to deal with if that is acceptable. sorry if not.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?431852-1/william-browder-overturning-magnitsky-act-putins-top-priority


Around 2009, WIlliam Browder became the target of a viscious smear campaign in and outside the US, orchestrated by the Russian Oligarchy in retaliation for his tenacious lobbying of Congress to pass "The Magnitsky Act." The smear campaign in the states was headed by a female Russian lawyer, using a company called Fusion GPS as a medium to do this through. iirc, an nyt journalist got burned pretty hard for some of the stories he posted about browder.

Browder's testimony clarifies the #1 priority of Russian Oligarchs is the repeal the Magnitsky act.

Natasha V, the russian lawyer with direct ties to the Russian Oligarchy who met with Trump jr, worked previously with the Organization (Fusion GPS) that hired the spy who put together the Trump dossier to run a viscous smear campaign against Browder when he began lobbying congress for and after he suceeded in passage of the Magnitsky Act. She also set up an NGO in violation of the foreign agent registration act called the Human Rights Accountability Global Initiative Foundation, which claims to advocate bringing Russian adoptions back the United states as a front for the Magnitsky repeal effort. If you don't remember, Trump Jr. was originally quoted saying that one o the reasons he thought he was meeting with natasha was to discuss adoptions. (Putin halted all american adoptions of russian children in retaliation to the US passing the magnitsky act)

Browder lays out the cunningness of Russian adversaries, describing how they pursue political intetests and make political contributions in part via circumvention of FARA working through shell corporations and other US owned organisations like Fusion GPS, as well as using witting and unwitting citizens to set up orgs like the Human Rights Accountability Global Initiative Foundation. Also noting a predilection for playing both sides. It corroborates Trump Jr.'s explanation of his meeting with Natasha being as absurd as it was innocuous (for a person conducting Political Opposition research). And ties the same Russian oligarchy Trump is supposed to be colluding with to the creation and dissemination of one of the most catastrophic relics of his presidential tenure, the dossier.

Glen Simpson is one of the owners of Fusion GPS amd was supposed to testify the same day as Browder but stood up the senate committee. Havent heard about him since july though

Browder's Testimony was actually scheduled for the day before but Dems invoked something called the 2 hour rule which pushed it a day over. The repubs seemed pretty pissed about this, I don't understand what happened with that enough to explain it though.

Another interesting take away was Browder's assertion at the beginning of the testimony that Putin is the richest man alive with a very large chunk of his wealth existing in assets frozen by the Magnitsky Act.

I wish there was an easier way to verify this than a 2 hour video but it is all there

Blob Blobbed (talk) 04:16, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Gays for Trump

Gays for Trump has been tagged for lacking notability, if anyone is interested in expanding the article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:05, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

The tag has been removed. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:17, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Pro-Trump demonstrations

Project members are invited to help expand Pro-Trump demonstrations. Surely there have been many other rallies in support of Trump, so this article needs to be expanded similar to the Protests against Donald Trump article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:49, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

2017 Trump's Speech at the United Nations General Assembly

Seen on NPP: 2017 Trump's Speech at the United Nations General Assembly.

Is there a good merge/redirect target? power~enwiki (π, ν) 22:52, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

@Power~enwiki: Perhaps this should be moved to 2017 United Nations General Assembly. I'm not sure whether or not Trump's speech is independently notable, but surely the event itself is notable. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:19, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
Or, General Debate of the seventy-second session of the United Nations General Assembly? Not sure. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:20, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
General Debate of the seventy-second session of the United Nations General Assembly looks like the right target. However, that page has its own issues, so I'm not in a rush to do the merge/redirect myself. power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:22, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
Sounds good. Glad we identified a possible target, though. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:26, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

American Horror Story episode

Unresolved

Should Election Night (American Horror Story) be added to WikiProject Trump and/or WikiProject Hillary Clinton? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:47, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

I went ahead and added the project banner, having now seen the episode. I also started a discussion on the article's talk page. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:22, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Commons category

Would someone assist in moving files in Commons:Category:Donald Trump to appropriate subcategories? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! MB298 (talk) 00:07, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

I moved a bunch of images into "Donald Trump in 2017". Not sure if that's a huge help, but at least it lightens the parent category. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:25, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Cropping Infobox Image Ivanka Trump

I've proposed cropping the infobox image in he Ivanka Trump articlet. Participation in the discussion would be appreciated. Galobtter (talk) 15:05, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Trump NFL edit request

I can't edit the relevant page over at this article if someone can remove that sentence or remove the "create PR crisis" fabrication, please. 67.233.36.166 (talk) 05:52, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Trump on Trump by George Beahm

Should an article about this book be created? I can't quite decide. The author has an article on the German Wikipedia by the way.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:34, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Fire and Fury

Requesting additional eyes on the Fire and Fury article for the next few weeks. The article is guaranteed to receive traffic given current press coverage, thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:43, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Cole Memorandum

Project members are invited to help expand and improve the newly-created Cole Memorandum article. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:32, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Donald Trump racial views deletion discussion

Resolved

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump racial views. FallingGravity 02:04, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Marking this section as resolved... ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:05, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Stormy Daniels

Should the WikiProject Donald Trump talk page banner be added to the Stormy Daniels article? ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:34, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Another Believer: Seems a good idea to start an RfC on the matter at that article's talk page, I have no opinion on whether it should be included or not, but that is the step forward to establish consensus on the issue. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:19, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Sounds good! ---Another Believer (Talk) 05:13, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Steve Calk needs expansion

If notable, please consider expanding Steve Calk. Thanks. --Animalparty! (talk) 02:19, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

The Faith of Donald J. Trump

New article: The Faith of Donald J. Trump. Will expand later. You may or may not want to help. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 14:50, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Input needed from knowledgeable editor for a GA review

The GA review for Trump's book Why We Want You to Be Rich has asked for clarity on a section. I haven't read the book, and the original nominator has not edited for several months. If anyone here is familiar with the book, any assistance would be appreciated. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:41, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Gays for Trump

Resolved

Gays for Trump has been nominated for speedy deletion. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:44, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Marking this section as resolved... ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:05, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Kristian Saucier

Hello. I've added this WP to Kristian Saucier's talkpage, as it may be the first presidential pardon issued by President Trump.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:25, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Oops, Joe Arpaio was also pardoned. Anyone else?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:00, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Consensus-seeking discussion notice

Notifying project members of a consensus discussion taking place at Talk:Trump–Russia dossier. Discussion is currently found in sub-section titled Seeking consensus to restore content challenged by _____. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 00:02, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Content discussion notification

There is an informal RfC/discussion at the Diamond and Silk article talk page found here that members of this project might interested in taking part in. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 02:11, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

RfC notification

There is an RfC at the Trump-Russia dossier talk page found here that members of this project might interested in taking part in. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 01:19, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

addition to "List of honors and awards received by Donald Trump"

would someone please assist me (newbie) and check my addition to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_honors_and_awards_received_by_Donald_Trump and see if the addition of the Medal for Bravery meets your standards. I thought to create the heading of 'International Localites (sub-State)', because the Province is not the State of Afghanistan; Logar Province awarded the Medal for Bravery on behalf of 'the Afghan' people so I noted that in the award date parentheses.

I am contacting Stars and Stripes, and the interpreter tomorrow to see about permission to upload my cropped image of the Medal, showing the ribbon it is hung on.

Thank you in advance for your time (be gentle, but firm with your corrections), Cato1713 Cato1713 (talk) 02:49, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

I looked at the award you added and made all necessary corrections. FigfiresSend me a message! 17:16, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Resolved

Please come and help...

The requested move at Talk:2018 missile strikes against Syria has been relisted, because there is no consensus yet either to move or not to move the article to a different title. Your !vote and rationale in this debate would be appreciated!  Paine Ellsworth  put'r there  23:46, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

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Discussion at talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Should the immigration section include material about Trump's family separation policy?

 You are invited to join the discussion at talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Should the immigration section include material about Trump's family separation policy?. - MrX 🖋 18:48, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Mental health of Donald Trump

I have created Mental health of Donald Trump to consolidate various topics referencing this subject, but I am thinking of expanding it to "Health of Donald Trump" to be more consistent with comparable articles on topics like Health of Abraham Lincoln and Health of Frédéric Chopin, each of which has a mental health subsection. bd2412 T 15:27, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and moved this to Health of Donald Trump. I will leave it to others to detail the subject's physical health. Cheers! bd2412 T 22:48, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:04, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Good move. I have added a physical health section. — JFG talk 00:11, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, nicely done. Cheers! bd2412 T 00:21, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

National Council for the American Worker

New article: National Council for the American Worker. You may or may not want to expand it. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 14:32, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Foreign policy articles

Foreign policy of Donald Trump was moved to Foreign policy of Donald Trump (2015-2016). I'm not sure if this was discussed somewhere, but I've started a discussion at Talk:Foreign_policy_of_Donald_Trump_(2015-2016)#Title regarding the page's title, and I also invite project members to help make sure Trump-related articles, templates, etc., are updated appropriately. Thank you. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:03, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

January 2019 Oval Office address

Please help improve the January 2019 Oval Office address article. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!

A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.

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Nomination of Portal:Donald Trump for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Donald Trump is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Donald Trump until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 11:13, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

RfC of interest

The RfC located here may be of interest to the members of this project. Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:53, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Recent possible meatpuppetry by /r/the_donald

  • Title of thread: [4] The best timeline is the one where we take back Wikipedia Quoted comments:
  • Fuck Wikipedia. The site where it's only true if a journalist said it. They are straight up Nazis who protect child porn rings.
  • Wikipedia is a kafakesque labyrinth of leftist faggotry
  • Title of thread: [5] Have you guys seen the Wikipedia page for Jack Posobiec of OANN? It's absolute liberal cancer!
  • Title of thread: [6] Wikipedia article about DJT Jr. These cucks are still salty...
  • Title of thread: [7] Wikipedia: Stalin isn’t as bad as Hitler. He only killed 6 million people. SOCIALIST LEFT
  • Title of thread: [8] Wikipedia is FAKE NEWS. The citation on this falsehood is, you guess it, #NPCNews. Stop the bias.
  • Title of thread: [9] WELL, THEY TRIED=> The Wikipedia article about MuH RuSsiA CoLLuSiOn is a massive 18,000 words long and is based on nearly 500 Fake News articles - Hey, Media Matters propagandists & TDS mental patients! Feel free to waste thousands MORE hours on this! Mueller is the failed messiah you deserve! WOMP WOMP
  • Title of thread: [10] In case anyone doubts Don Jr’s tweet about Wikipedia, get a load of the official article on the Spygate scandal. Uncorrected, unrepentant. Quoted comment:
  • Can Wikipedia be blitzed with people making changes?
  • Article is very one sided and doesnt even touch into the intricate connections between Halper...
  • Title of thread: [11] The reason Wikipedia cannot be cited as a credible source. #StopTheBias Quoted comments:
  • I can change it, and I will. Unless it’s blocked. I have an account It’s right saying it has multiple issues
  • It’s no longer a conspiracy theory. It’s conspiracy fact. Fuck Cuckipedia.
  • False conspiracy theory as in proven correct
  • Wikipedia must die.
  • Title of thread: [12] 1984: Wikipedia Edition VERY FAKE NEWS Quoted comments:
  • Time to archive all the edits coming in the next few months. something tells me there will be a lot.
  • Untrustworthy citations were always the biggest issue but now we see that bad actors/editors are a significant issue also.
  • Title of thread: [13] Donald Trump Jr. on Twitter: "Wow this is a big deal, Wikipedia is everywhere and a primary search tool for many. Who wants to bet which side was protected???" Quoted comment:
  • General thread: [14] Wikipedia Editors Paid to Protect Political, Tech, and Media Figures DRAIN THE SWAMP
  • Possible target: Spygate (Donald Trump conspiracy theory). The only evidence you need to know that Wikipedia is complete 1984 Orwellian wetdream: Spygate (Donald Trump conspiracy theory) Someone please archive it so we have complete proof that Wikipedia is fake news bullshit.
  • Possible target: One America News Network. On the top overview on the One America News Network on Wikipedia- “The channel has also been noted for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[9][10]” Here are the links to their footnotes. 9 10
  • Possible target: /r/The_Donald I haven't read it. I can only imagine what it says about us lol Exactly what I expected / Islamophobic and antisemitic at the same time? Hmmmmm. / Doesn't say slandered anymore?
  • Possible target: List of projects supported by George Soros This one's a battlezone:
  • Possible target: Pizzagate conspiracy theory yep they called Pizzagate a "debunked conspiracy theory" cited Snopes as a source and locked the page / That always made me laugh. You can't debunk something like that without proving that all the evidence is incorrect. Yet within 24 hours everybody was like "nope not true DeBuNkEd!!1!"
  • Possible target: Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory Wanna see some bullshit, look at the wikipedia article about cultural marxism. Every single fucking setence begins with 'the conspiracy theory' and it constantly states that its has nazi origins. So you read the multiple references cited and every reference simply says it is comparing marxism of class, to marxism of identity. No mention of conspiracy, no mention of nazis, no mention of frankfurt school. You would think they are 2 entirely separate articles. The references completely counter what is written. And of course, the article is locked. / The page clearly leaves out Yuri Bezmenov, who explained how the Soviets sought to undermine American culture.
  • Possible target: 1924 Democratic National Convention One of the most glaring examples of their bullshit - The 1924 Democratic National Convention called the Klanbake and the extensive involvement of the KKK with the Democratic party back then That is just the list of the individual edits and changes people have made to the page. They've spent years trying to bury the story. / but its fun clicking UNDO and Publish!
  • Possible target: Foreign electoral intervention My personal favorite recent change is the page on foreign election interference used to have a large section on Chinese interference in the 1996 presidential election to help Bill Clinton. The entire section was removed and turned into a footnote in the “Campaign Finance Reform of 1996” article after Russiagate took off.
  • General comments
  • We have departed the "Age of Information" and are entering the "Age of Disinformation." We must fight this battle now or forever suffer the inevitable outcome of global fascism.
  • No surprise. Any Wikipedia article on anything important is completely false at this point. They don’t even hide it. Pure propaganda.
  • It is also a really stupid idea to start out on articles like Donald Trump or Barack Obama as your first edit. Start out with some fairly obscure topic that might interest you like a cartoon character or a video game you might like to play before you get into the controversial articles. Even experienced Wikipedia editors would have a hard time getting more than a couple words added to some of those more controversial articles.
  • Yestersay I was making some edits but the obscene volume of "Russian Collusion" wrapped into so many pages is mind numbing. It's going to be a monumental scavenger hunt.
  • I would say it's full of the DISEASE of intellectualism and academia ... I guarantee you if these lgbt folks could have been left alone in a natural environment without media, academia, medical fields poking around in their brains, 90% of them would be normal people, 8% would have suffered some kind of mental illness, and 2% would be gay ... These people don't need academic explanation, they need to shut their mouths and go work in a coal mine or dig trenches. They'll find all the douchey enlightenment they could ever imagine but that doesn't appeal to them ... They'll never understand just how inferior they truly are.
  • I believe our fields of science, psychology, medicine, financial, have all been corrupted and have to be sifted through and re-examined ... These people have to burn and they must burn publicly.
  • They want you and I dead. Period. And we just smile along as we use there services.

The above are quotes. - starship.paint ~ KO 02:22, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Donald Trump - what to put here ?

Looking for some WP:TRUMP guidance towards what belongs where....

I have started a discussion at Donald Trump Had any impact on Trumps life over what could guide "what fits" into the named article and determine what belongs to the Donald Trump article. Most items should go to other articles -- what properties could be looked at to determine if it goes here ?

If you’ve got other good ways to identify proper content for an article about a person, please add to the mix — all measures needed, the question recurs frequently.

Cheers Markbassett (talk) 05:40, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Personal life of Donald Trump

Should Draft:Personal life of Donald Trump be moved into the main space? ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:06, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Progress bar

@Mgasparin: I wonder if this bar might be more appropriate for the content section. With no context, this just looks like a rainbow-colored bar at the top of the page. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:26, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Feel free to move it as you see fit. Mgasparin (talk) 00:27, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done Mgasparin (talk) 00:28, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Mgasparin, Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:40, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
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