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04:43:17, 30 September 2024 review of submission by Cyanochic

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Hey y'all, I'm still new-ish - I just wrote my 2nd article and submitted it to AfC. Then I realized I had permissions to just move an article on my own now. I don't want to add to your backlog, but I don't want to mess up anything either. Can I just go in and move it on my own and it will remove itself from the list? Thanks! Cyanochic (talk) 04:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cyanochic That it is now technically possible does not necessarily mean it is wise. In real terms only you can judge whether you are ready to move your own drafts to main space.
As long as you are diligent in referencing, and as long as your topics pass WP:GNG and/or the individual criteria, then move your own drafts with pleasure. I just Accepted the draft you mention.
Please tidy up after moving your own drafts to main space, removing any AFC artefacts.
I hope you have a happy time with this engaging hobby 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 07:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Cyanochic (talk) 17:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
hello there having trouble with mine can you help out ? Donblogerw (talk) 12:30, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

05:19, 30 September 2024 review of submission by 117.20.68.15

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Thanks for your feedback. Trilby Misso is a person a family and a historic business in Queensland, so would love to know how to redo the submission to make it work with the Wiki guidelines. Thank you for your help. 117.20.68.15 (talk) 05:19, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please read HELP:YFA. You appear to have a conflict of interest. Please read WP:COI and WP:PAID. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:06, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

05:32, 30 September 2024 review of submission by 2405:201:400C:B8:1BA0:DB11:715D:C534

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What was lacking in the particular article, and what steps are needed to make it go live, the concerned person is notable in the CS and it would be beneficial to add his name in accords. 2405:201:400C:B8:1BA0:DB11:715D:C534 (talk) 05:32, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may wish to ask Jeraxmoira about this since they rejected the draft. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:09, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Cillian Paul / User:2405:201:400C:B8:1BA0:DB11:715D:C534, the subject is not notable. The sources you have used are primary, i.e. sources are original materials that are close to an event, and are often accounts written by people who are directly involved. Here, the first seven sources are the subject's website, profile and event listings, including their LinkedIn profile. Sources 8-12 are papers published by the subject, which do not pass WP:NACADEMIC. I did a google search on the subject and found only directory/profile listings. I suggest working on a different subject or improving existing articles. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:30, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

05:58, 30 September 2024 review of submission by Sussyshibainu

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What is wrong with this wiki page? Sussyshibainu (talk) 05:58, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sussyshibainu There is nothing right with it. It has been rejected. Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:00, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't even vandalise anything this is my own page u meanie >:( Sussyshibainu (talk) 05:59, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sussyshibainu You appear not to be here to create an encyclopaedia. Please either make sensible, useful edits, or just stop editing at all. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:04, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:27, 30 September 2024 review of submission by Nayyn

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Hello Disclosure-- this is not my draft

But I am wondering why this article fails "WP:N"

When there are: Multiple suitable sources cited about this individual, and the sources indicate WP:SUSTAINED

For WP:SPORTSPERSON this individual has made " a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field" in the case of his Alma Mater and the ACC record for minutes played in the tournament. There are a number of other Sportspeople with pages on this site that have less notable records ie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giannis_Christofilopoulos so I'm not sure why this individual is not considered notable for their contributions as a coach?

Is this because they are not a professional player? Nayyn (talk) 10:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nayyn: When the draft was declined back in June, there were very few sources, and nothing to indicate that the person was notable. The draft looks very different now. I don't know the topic area and can't evaluate whether the draft shows notability now or not, but it did not show it back then at any rate. --bonadea contributions talk 10:49, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Bonadea many thanks for the reply. As it is some months now since June and there has been a number of edits to it to show its relevance.. is it still waiting for review or could I move it to the mainspace?
This individual is notable for both his playing and coaching career.
Playing: Gainey played at NC State, a NCAA Division I school. Only 1% of the 537,438 High School Basketball players in the US will go on to play for a Division 1 school in Basketball, and fewer will go on to play four years and stand out in top tournaments, as Gainey did. Fewer will set records for his program, as Gainey did, especially considering his non-standout size for his position. https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/3/2/estimated-probability-of-competing-in-college-athletics.aspx
Coaching: Becoming an assistant basketball coach of one of the top programs in the United States is an incredibly rare feat especially considering his race and the amount of structural inequalities he faced to get to that position.
I am not a college basketball expert by any means, nor even a fan or follower of this sport, but it is clear even from a person with passing knowledge that this person is notable. Nayyn (talk) 12:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
NM @Bonadea someone moved it already. Thank you @Theroadislong Nayyn (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:19, 30 September 2024 review of submission by TheSquareTiger

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Please help me with it, I am new to creating articles. TheSquareTiger (talk) 12:19, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I got the information from Japanese Wikipedia but changed it to English, also the links on that Japanese Wikipedia were those from YouTube as well as one's like TV Tokyo article on here TheSquareTiger (talk) 12:24, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheSquareTiger: you cannot cite Japanese Wikipedia as a source. If the Japanese article cites sources which could be used to support the information here, you need to cite those sources directly.
Also, please do not create inline external links (including to the Japanese Wikipedia), as these are not allowed.
Please see WP:REFB for advice on correct referencing.
This draft was additionally declined for lack of notability. You need to show that the subject satisfies either the general WP:GNG or the special WP:NACTOR notability guideline. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:28, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok but the info I can get are just IMDB TheSquareTiger (talk) 12:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheSquareTiger: IMDb is not considered reliable, as it is user-generated. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the citations linking to Japanese Wikipedia TheSquareTiger (talk) 13:06, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also added one's like the TV Asahi English website TheSquareTiger (talk) 12:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheSquareTiger, first of all, stop submitting the draft for the moment. If you continue submitting it without fixing the problems, a reviewer will conclude the draft can't be improved and will reject it. Rejection means you pretty much have to give up, so you want to avoid that at all costs!
Next, read through WP:42, the 'golden rule' and also WP:BLP (biographies of living people), followed by WP:REFB (referencing for beginners). Your goal is to show that this person is notable. You do this by finding suitable sources (see WP:42 and WP:BLP) and then referencing those sources in the draft (see WP:REFB). Every single sentence in a BLP needs to be referenced by a good source. Start with your first sentence, make sure it's properly referenced, and then keep going. If a sentence has no references, delete it.
If you cannot find suitable references, then it might be too soon for this person to have an article. You can keep working on the draft and waiting until references can be found. References don't have to be in English (although we prefer English when possible) but they do have to meet all the criteria in WP:42. Good luck and happy editing! StartGrammarTime (talk) 02:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:13, 30 September 2024 review of submission by Əhməd Qurbanov

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Hi. I added a lot of independent and reliable sources to the draft article. I really appreciate if you give some feedbacks about the article. I've already submitted this article for review. Əhməd Qurbanov (talk) 14:13, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reviewer will leave you feedback if it is not accepted. 331dot (talk) 14:18, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
331dot, Before the review, I want to get helpful feedback. It is effective and time-saving way, I think. Əhməd Qurbanov (talk) 14:35, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're free to ask, but it duplicates effort. The whole point of submitting it is to request feedback if not accepted. 331dot (talk) 17:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Əhməd Qurbanov The other side of this coin is that before the draft is submitted for review I (and others) have no interest in it. The submission triggers the review. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:55, 30 September 2024 review of submission by TheSquareTiger

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Please help me with this. TheSquareTiger (talk) 14:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheSquareTiger: please don't open a new thread, just add to the existing one, if you have questions you'd like to answer. (This isn't really one.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:44, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:57, 30 September 2024 review of submission by 164.77.161.26

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What else can we add in this article?? 164.77.161.26 (talk) 14:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing. Rejection means it will not be considered further 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:11, 30 September 2024 review of submission by 2A02:C7C:B08D:D600:62AB:14FF:FE8C:126

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matias 2A02:C7C:B08D:D600:62AB:14FF:FE8C:126 (talk) 16:11, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:21, 30 September 2024 review of submission by 2A02:C7C:B08D:D600:62AB:14FF:FE8C:126

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matias 2A02:C7C:B08D:D600:62AB:14FF:FE8C:126 (talk) 16:21, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you're saying, but the draft has been deleted as a test page. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:16, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think these are test edits. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 02:05, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:23, 30 September 2024 review of submission by Yolocalasshiphopfanboy

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For some reason this was rejected, because apparently "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.", even though there are at least two fans and the artist himself who need this page to exist. Please help me get this accepted. His music changed my life and I want this to exist. Also the president wants it too. Yolocalasshiphopfanboy (talk) 16:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Yolocalasshiphopfanboy: not going to happen. This draft has been rejected, and is awaiting speedy deletion. You shouldn't be writing about yourself in the first place, and any sort of promotion (including self-) is strictly not allowed on Wikipedia. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm flattered, but this isn't about myself, buddy. I could never do what yolocalasshiphop does. Maybe I'll try writing about him when he has 1000+ listeners. Yolocalasshiphopfanboy (talk) 10:21, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't write about yourself, ever. When you become notable, which likely isn't anytime soon considering your single-digit fan count, someone else will naturally write an article about you. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 10:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

18:27, 30 September 2024 review of submission by Adipratamaa25

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for information on women's basketball tournaments between clubs in Asia Adipratamaa25 (talk) 18:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adipratamaa25, your draft is unreferenced and therefore fails the core content policy of Verifiability. Please read Referencing for beginners. Also, it is too brief to be an informative encyclopedia article. Cullen328 (talk) 19:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:08, 30 September 2024 review of submission by Ethanjbrown03

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Hi my draft got declined on the 30th of Sept due to not having the following: in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements) reliable secondary strictly independent of the subject

This is my first time writing a Wikipedia page and I was just trying to get some understanding on how to navigate these resources, all of my references are independent and secondary sources, and I'm having a hard time finding any that 100% match the criteria just because of the industry. If you have any ideas or suggestions, I would really appreciate it.

Thank you. Ethanjbrown03 (talk) 22:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ethanjbrown03: Your issue is you're running flat into WP:CORPDEPTH. Refer to my /Decode subpage (linked in my signature as "critiques"):
You have one source that's usable. That isn't enough. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 01:13, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Ethanjbrown03. My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. ColinFine (talk) 09:26, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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