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00:59, 1 October 2024 review of submission by Hakimia1

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What can do to resubmit Hakimia1 (talk) 00:59, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hakimia1 you can't, as the draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:13, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

05:18, 1 October 2024 review of submission by Sudheesh Sudhakaran

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Gopal Menon is a renowned documentary film maker from India. Many of his works which are politically relevant in the National level where reported and discussed in various media. Most of the statements in the article are from the most reputed news papers like The Hindu, Indian Express etc. I donot know why the article has been rejected Sudheesh Sudhakaran (talk) 05:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sudheesh Sudhakaran: the draft (not yet article) has been declined (not rejected) for the reasons given on the decline notice, namely that there is insufficient evidence of notability. You need to provide evidence that the subject satisfies either the general WP:GNG or the special WP:FILMMAKER guideline for notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:24, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You mentioned that Gopal Menon lacks sufficient evidence of notability. Here are some links that demonstrate his notability based on WP:FILMMAKER guideline:
This article, published in The Hindu, a highly reputable national newspaper in India, discusses Gopal Menon's work as a documentary filmmaker.
https://www.thehindu.com/features/metroplus/life-in-a-documentary/article5668047.ece
This article, published in The Hindu, discusses Gopal Menon's work as a documentary filmmaker and his contributions to the field.
https://www.thehindu.com/features/metroplus/an-edge-over-television/article5770004.ece
This article, published in The News Minute, another well-respected national news outlet in India, highlights Gopal Menon's documentary about a pellet injury survivor in Kashmir.
https://www.thenewsminute.com/kerala/documentary-tells-touching-tale-pellet-injury-survivor-kashmir-136068
This article, published in The Hindu, discusses Gopal Menon's work as a documentary filmmaker.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140712001601/http://hindu.com/thehindu/lf/2002/05/05/stories/2002050500260200.htm
Below given are articles about his latest short film which discusses sexual violence and social auditing faced by people with disabilities. The News Minute is the most reputed independent English online media from the South India. The New Indian Express is one of the most reputed newspapers in the country.
https://www.thenewsminute.com/kerala/how-a-malayalam-short-throws-light-on-issues-of-persons-with-intellectual-disability
https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/2023/Dec/02/short-film-madithatu-to-be-released-on-international-day-for-persons-with-disabilities-2638137.html
This is another article which mentions Gopal Menon and the political importance of his documentary
https://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/sadanand-menon-the-mounting-filmic-attack-on-modi-109100200036_1.html
Moreover, there is a book titled 'Independent Documentary Filmmakers in India,' written by Rajesh James and published by Bloomsbury Publishing. The book has a chapter about Gopal Menon.
https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/India_Retold/jnQxEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0
Each sentence in the draft has a citation to articles like this. Sudheesh Sudhakaran (talk) 06:18, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Follow up Sudheesh Sudhakaran (talk) 06:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

05:43, 1 October 2024 review of submission by Abhisheknandan2003

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What is issue here? Abhisheknandan2003 (talk) 05:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Abhisheknandan2003: the 'issue' is that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, where we publish articles on encyclopaedic subjects that are deemed notable. It is not a platform for you to tell the world about yourself; for that, you will need to find a social media or blogging platform, or some such. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:54, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

06:10, 1 October 2024 review of submission by Garyshack

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Could you help in reviewing my submitted article? TIA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Garyshack/Propelrr Garyshack (talk) 06:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Garyshack: we don't do on-demand reviews here at the help desk. You have submitted the draft, and it will be reviewed in due course when a reviewer comes along to assess it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:20, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

06:52, 1 October 2024 review of submission by POT7

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I need help I’m trying to draft a page but it gets declined because there isn’t enough coverage but there isn’t because there isn’t all at to talk about so i need someone to help me POT7 (talk) 06:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

POT7 I've fixed your post to provide a link to your draft as intended. We can't create sources for you. If they don't exist, she would not merit an article at this time. You need to show she is a notable creative professional or more broadly a a notable person.
The image of her was uploaded by an account named POT9. Do you have anything to do with that? 331dot (talk) 09:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @POT7. Please read No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. ColinFine (talk) 09:28, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:58, 1 October 2024 review of submission by 210.19.145.98

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I need to know what is there to fix in terms of the information that is needed to launch the page. Besides all the other tips given what else can I do? 210.19.145.98 (talk) 08:58, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You need to summarize significant coverage in independent reliable sources, not just documentation of the financial performance of the company or its routine activities. You need to show that the company is notable as Wikipedia defines it. 331dot (talk) 09:13, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, IP user. Your words "launch the page" sound as if you have the (very common) misunderstanding that Wikipedia is like social media - a place to tell the world about yourself. It is not: it is an encyclopaedia, which contains neutrally written articles about notable subjects.
If Wikipedia ever has an article about your company, whoever creates it, the article will not belong to your company , will not be controlled by your company, will not necessarily say what your company would like it to say, may be edited by almost anybody in the world except representatives of your company, and should be based almost 100% on what people wholly unconnected with your company have published about it, not on what your company says or wants to say. Please see WP:PROUD. ColinFine (talk) 09:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:20, 1 October 2024 review of submission by DavidJimPaulSean

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the article is getting rejected .. cite and sources have been added. The article is of interest for a band with 2 EPs and an album out , with another EP to be released this year DavidJimPaulSean (talk) 10:20, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't the place to promote your band. Our only concern is if it meets WP:BAND,.amd it doesn't seem to, which is why it was rejected and won't be considered further at this time.
Your username is problematic as it suggests all the band members have access to it. Please change it via Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. 331dot (talk) 11:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:01, 1 October 2024 review of submission by 83.233.139.157

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hell how can wikipedia be on the cutting edge of history if it is not part of history written?

Brodour is a new thing, an objective thing. It was generated from the mind expressed on the internet, brotha! I suspect soyboys on the internet think it is against wikipedia statutes as they cannot bench press 200 kg or nail a perfect squat. After a heavy session you have a brodour.

Go get lost in your own navels 83.233.139.157 (talk) 12:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The answer to your question is this: Wikipedia is not supposed to be on the cutting edge of history! --bonadea contributions talk 12:05, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This draft is written as a pseudo-intellectual treatise trying to push a neologism and a product at the same time. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 21:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:06, 1 October 2024 review of submission by Santak1ng

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I'm new as a contributor at Wikipedia so I don't know all the ins and outs but I'm a bit confused about why my page about Hemnet wasn't accepted. Reading through the reasons given (see below), I don't really understand, maybe someone can clarify?

in-depth – Hemnet is one of the biggest web pages in Sweden, the company is listed at Nasdaq and a Wikipedia page about Hemnet already exists in Swedish. So I wanted to create a stub so I can translate the Swedish page to English. Should I have done anything else for my article to be considered a stub?

relilable – all the information in the article is clearly linked to reliable pages

secondary and independent – I've stated that I have a COI, as I am an employee of the company. But that shouldn't matter since all the things in the article are documented facts. Why have a COI label if COI content is automatically dismissed? Santak1ng (talk) 13:06, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hej @Santak1ng:, welcome to the Teahouse and thank you for disclosing your connection to Hemnet. The problem with the sourcing is that only Hemnet itself is used as a source. If you follow the links to read about secondary and independent sources, you'll see that it's got nothing to do with your own COI but with the fact that Wikipedia is almost entirely uninterested in what a company publishes about itself. I would be very surprised if there were not sufficiently many secondary and independent sources talking about Hemnet in some detail (I mean, here's a scholarly article about it!) but at the moment, the draft does not include any of them. (The tone of the draft is also not quite what is required from an encyclopedia article, but that's a different issue). Start by finding secondary and independent sourcing, and then build a draft from what those sources say, rather than on your own knowledge. --bonadea contributions talk 13:21, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:36, 1 October 2024 review of submission by 103.166.59.60

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It is a Documentary Films. This should be published on Wikipedia. I have shared external links. If you need more proof tell me and I will provide proof.

Please tell me what information is required. 103.166.59.60 (talk) 13:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a place to promote (i.e. tell the world about) anything: please use social media or promotion sites for that.
Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia: it summarises what has already been published about a subject.
If the film has been written about in some depth by people wholly unconnected with the film, published in reliable places, then it is possible an article could be written about it; but that article would be based upon what those independent people had chosen to publish, not about what the makers or promoters of the film want to say.
Please see your first article and WP:NFILM. ColinFine (talk) 14:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

18:41, 1 October 2024 review of submission by AlyannadV

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Need help in redrafting to be more neutral AlyannadV (talk) 18:41, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AlyannadV Let me take an example of the current phraseology: "New Lab, situated in the historic Brooklyn Navy Yard, is a co-working space for tech entrepreneurs and fabricators, with a focus in fields ranging from artificial intelligence to interactive architecture." is straight from a brochure selling that space. What value does it add to an encyclopaedia article to have 'selling words' within it?
There are other examples, not hard to find.
My advice to you is to cut, cut and cut again until you have crafted 'dull-but-worthy' prose in all the sentences which remain after your cutting has had its first pass. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:59, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thanks. AlyannadV (talk) 19:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
AlyannadV, multidisciplinary in the first sentence strikes me as vapid corporate jargon. Does the company also operate dental care clinics? Do they have astrophysicists on their payroll to investigate the origins of the universe? Are they employing Broadway playwrights? What the heck does this word mean, and which reliable independent sources use it when discussing this business venture? Cullen328 (talk) 08:00, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Cullen328, In architecture, the terms multidisciplinary and/or interdisciplinary refer to firms that employ designers who practice different disciplines. In architecture for example, it's common for firms to employ mostly architects, while in landscape architecture it's common for firms to primarily employ landscape designers.
Marvel has different teams of different disciplines in one firm, which is why it can be referred to as a multidisciplinary practice:
https://www.curbed.com/2021/03/covid-memorial-project-marvel-designs-social-block.html
https://archinect.com/news/article/150330033/meet-tribeca-all-rounders-marvel-your-next-employer
https://culturenow.org/people/marvel-architects-pllc
https://csengineermag.com/naming-seven-partners-and-new-leaders-marvel-reconfirms-its-commitment-to-designing-for-and-in-partnership-with-communities/
If it's less offensive to exclude the word, I could try that in the next draft. AlyannadV (talk) 20:14, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Then why not explain that in ordinary words instead of using insider jargon? Cullen328 (talk) 22:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, didn’t realize it could be considered insider jargon. AlyannadV (talk) 23:31, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
no Declined Insufficient editing to remove the marketing verbiage. I have asked you a formal question on your user talk page about paid editing. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 08:19, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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